The Revolt of the Media

Way back in the olden thymes, “the media” was the local newspaper, news radio and the evening news on the television. My father would read the paper every evening after dinner, while my mother would watch the evening news. Once in a while my mother would put on the radio and listen to the news channel, but that was rare. If the people in charge wanted to get the attention of the peasants, they had to do it in those small windows when people paid any attention to the news.

We live in a different age, but it is a very new age. We are saturated with media. Young people have no frame of reference so they just assume it has always been thus, but our modern mass media culture is one of those rare things that is truly new. It really was not so long ago when it was easy to be entirely uninformed about the world. It took great effort to be well informed. That’s not to say we are all worldly cosmopolitans, but the world is literally at our fingertips. More important, media is everywhere and it hard to escape it.

This newness means that the people in charge have struggled to put it to their uses. Buying off a few newspaper publishers was easy. Controlling the three TV networks required hardly any effort at all. A free wheeling mass media with millions of bloggers, podcasters and small outlets is a different task. Rounding up the farm’s bull is a hard job, but rounding up all the barn cats is actually much tougher. The former can get you killed, but the latter has a maddening number of variables.

When the masses started to get on-line, the “media experts” said it was ushering in an era of wonderfulness because the people would now have a say. The news would be interactive! It was not that long ago when every Progressive commentator went on and on about the wonderfulness of interactive media. I used to laugh at it as I was on-line long before the media airheads had heard of the internet. I knew those hothouse flowers would not last very long in the rough and tumble world of the internet, but like missionaries headed off to the the jungle, they were sure it was going to be great

I was thinking about that yesterday when National Review announced they had been taken over by Facebook. Like a lot of these sites, they learned the hard way that their audience was not going to just nod along and clap when instructed. Instead, they posted articles and the comments filled up with ridicule and criticism. That led to lots of comments from NR writers about the awfulness of the comment threads. Now that millennial pansies are in charge, they have turned it over to Facebook to police their comments.

It turns out that popular opinion is not all that popular with the people in the media. All over, news and opinion sites are clamping down on comments. They are heavily policed or they are shut down entirely. Twitter has allowed a band of angry lesbians to take over the moderation duties. Reddit hired Chinese grifter Ellen Pao to chase off the bad thinkers. Faceberg, of course, is run by howling lunatics, who ban people for any deviation from the orthodoxy. The media is slowly shutting down public comment in a rather deliberate effort to shut down dissent.

This started a couple of years ago, but the process has been accelerating. The claim from the media is the comment sections are revolting. Coincidentally, it is happening just when the public is revolting. It also coincides with a sudden solidarity among the media. They no longer seem to be divided along ideological lines. Now, they are quite unified. Read National Review, for example, and you could be forgiven for thinking it is New York Magazine or Salon. Glenn Beck, once the scourge of the Left, is now getting a sex change and supporting Clinton.

It’s one of those things you can read different ways. It could be real fear on the part of media over what’s coming their way through the comment sections. This is the sort of thing we associate with reactionaries facing a revolution. The people in charge try to suppress dissent so they can win the public relations campaign. If only one side can speak and they are holding a megaphone, enough people will be swayed to back the regime so that the revolt losses steam. That’s the theory, anyway.

On the other hand, the Cloud People speak a slightly different language than the rest of us. It’s why a crime story using the phrase “Minnesota man” means the man was not from Minnesota or even North America. In the language of the Cloud, interactive may have meant that they yell at you and you obey. These are people who truly believe they are called by the blank spot where God once existed to lead the Dirt People in the right direction. Ask any of them why they chose their career and they say, “I wanted to make a difference.”

There’s also the possibility that the people in media are just very stupid. Spend any time on an elite college campus and it is not hard to figure out that they select for things other than raw IQ. The kids that end up in the soft majors are not selected because they pegged the math portion of their SAT. Way back in the stone age, I was in college with a couple of rich kids who were as dumb as goldfish. But, family money is worth two SD’s on the entrance exams so they were accepted and put into sociology and psychology respectively.

My sense is that the Cloud People are beginning to master the new media tools. Oddly, the lesson they are learning is the lesson the Nazis learned. People naturally follow the herd. Put the herd into a big arena, pump in some emotional content and the herd goes where you tell it. Go to a Dallas Cowboy game and watch the buildup. It’s easy to see what happened in Germany.The 20 minutes before the game is a Nuremberg rally. Even if you’re not from Texas, you want to put on a cowboy hat, pull on your boots and defend the Alamo.

We are social animals that look to one another for guidance and acceptance. Unleashing click farms to promote the Cloud People narrative, while demoting the critics, gets the herd moving in the right direction. It also keeps the people holding the megaphones in high spirits. By having only cheering crowds in their line of sight, they truly feel they are making a difference and therefore redouble their efforts for the cause. That’s the weird thing about propaganda. It’s often more effective on the sender than the receiver.

All of this is fine if your ideal society is one where the bulk of the people are treated like cattle. That’s certainly the way our world has shaped up so far in the mass media age. The “big data” guys start from the assumption that we’re all in the hive. following orders from the queen via subtle signalling and nudging. Alter the composition of the signals and you alter society. The drones have no agency of their own. That’s the theory and maybe they are right. The great success of central planning suggest they may be onto something.

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UKer
UKer
7 years ago

You cited “Minnesota Man” and we had the same in the UK the other day. A muslim, born in Somali but levered into Norwegian society and thus given a passport, stabbed an American woman to death in London. Immediately the BBC, which is desperate to deny any terrorism anywhere (except by potential neo-Nazis, even if they don’t exist), described the perp not only as ‘Norwegian’ but informed us all he was ‘mentally ill.’ (In turn thus making the case for the defence in any trial) The reaction from the people of this country, at least those not bludgeoned already by… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  UKer
7 years ago

@ UKer – Germany has the same issue with identifying criminals by ethnicity or background. Anyone with a German passport is German. Period. Unlike Americans, we don’t have a hyphenated demographic. It’s why the American media identifies African-Americans or Mexican-Americans but Germany doesn’t have African-Germans or Russian-Germans.

JohnTyler
JohnTyler
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
7 years ago

Karl;
Do 47% of Germans still support Merkel (as recent polls suggest)?
If so, this is unbelievable and really scary, for it demonstrates that the people will basically accept anything.

I am not picking on Germans; Yanks, Brits, French, Swedes, Norwegs, etc., seem to accept what is foisted upon them by the left liberal progressive elites.
This is very troubling.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  JohnTyler
7 years ago

@ JT – Yes, that number is about right. If you round up, that means every other citizen is not happy with her. Basically two-thirds of German citizens are no-satisfied with Merkel’s asylum and refugee policy. So from those statistics, and others I have read, her favorable position continues to drop due to her refugee policy more than anything else. I think the turning point will be how she deals with Turkey. This will be critical for her political future and that of her party if she gives in to Turkey especially after they demanded 78 million Turkish citizens should… Read more »

UKer
UKer
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
7 years ago

Karl, as our German correspondent (I bet that was a title you didn’t think you’d be handed here, hehe) I would welcome your thoughts on — so I am led to believe — the story that the German authorities are about to prosecute a man who had the temerity to shout at a terrorist murderer. Of course, the media here may have got that arse-over-tit as we say in these islands, but I look forward to your view.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  UKer
7 years ago

@ UKer – Do you have a link? I am not familiar with this story.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
7 years ago

@ UKer – I just read about it. Interesting. Will look into it.

J Clivas
Reply to  UKer
7 years ago

One can be BOTH Moslem AND mentally disturbed, right?

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  J Clivas
7 years ago

@ J Clivas – I believe the correct English word for comparing Muslim and mentally disturbed is “synonymous”.

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
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Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
7 years ago

Do not forget to include “liberal” in that equation!

Drake
Drake
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

“Florida Man” is my favorite. Usually a redneck, always nuts.

Zeroh Tollrants
Zeroh Tollrants
Reply to  Drake
7 years ago

We white “rednecks” here in the South, appreciate your casual stereotyping!

Shelby
Shelby
Reply to  Zeroh Tollrants
7 years ago

We are the very last group that can be openly abused. Just bear in mind, when the bottom falls out, you’ll be wanting us on your side. Lol

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

In many ways, our Constitution was specifically re-written after WW2 to avoid any discrimination against any persons for the obvious reasons. There are very serious laws about defamation or even the possibility of insulting someone in text or verbally. We certainly don’t enjoy the freedom of speech you do…or did.

PJ123
PJ123
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
7 years ago

Huh, that’s a very basic misreading of constitutions, which are supposed to limit governments, not individuals. In theory anyway. But constitutions don’t seem to work in any case, so it’s picking at nits.

Dr. Mabuse
Dr. Mabuse
Reply to  UKer
7 years ago

Same thing happening here in Ottawa, Canada. Somali male caused a disturbance in a coffee shop, police were called, altercation results, guy dies. Immediate BLM-style outcry, with reports that the guy was “mentally ill”. (They even claimed that he was “autistic” for one day, to gain sympathy. Dropped that in a hurry, which told me that the whole story was shot through with lies.) The bigger story was that Abdi was assaulting women at the coffee shop, men there drove him out and tried to hold him until the police came; “mentally ill” means unemployed and already busted up with… Read more »

Drake
Drake
7 years ago

Twenty years ago or so I used to actually pay for a National Review subscription because conservative opinion was hard to come by. I swear they have made a concerted effort to move me from regular reader, to occasional reader who ridicules the writers in the comments, to where we just arrived at – never visiting their site again.

I’m not ever going to sign up for facebook. And I’m never going to bother reading an NRO article again if I can’t insult the douche who wrote it.

John
John
7 years ago

It’s a very interesting dynamic that’s been set up, where the ability to “red pill” yourself completely and thoroughly is no more than a few clicks away at all times. Yet the vast majority chose to keep themselves shrouded in the artificial reality of the establishment narrative. Meanwhile the cognitive dissonance experience by those folks continues to ramp up. Can’t help but feel for them…though it’s a self impose suffering (aren’t they all).

Member
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

Khan said his son sacrificed his life for his buddies. He said The Donald didn’t sacrifice anything. Trump responded saying he did make sacrifices: he worked hard and created thousands of jobs, setting off a firestorm of criticism that Trump was equating his sacrifice to that of Khan’s son.

Christopher S. Johns
Christopher S. Johns
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

The whole thing was orchestrated. Trump was set up by Clinton operative George Stephanopolus. Trump was baited into going after Khan, and he took the bait. Granted, Khan is a Sharia-endorsing sleazebag who makes his money off of Muslim immigration, but that’s beside the point. Khan is small fry. Trump should have seen the set up and immediately gone after Georgie and the media-orchestrated double-standard that allows Stephanopolous to go on and on about the Khans, while ignoring the Benghazi parents and parents of children killed by illegals featured at the GOP rally. In the wake of the Wikileaks revelations… Read more »

Andrea Shea King
Andrea Shea King
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

Jeff Roe was Ted Cruz’ campaign manager. He’s a dirty trickster. Just ask Ben Carson…

Reply to  Christopher S. Johns
7 years ago

One thing I never see pointed out about the Clintons and their toady Stephanopolous, is the accounting of what happens when Georgie tosses $200K as a charitable contribution to the CFF. GS surely deducts it on his IRS 1040 as a charitable contribution, which gives him (assuming 39.6% bracket) a $79.2K deduction.
GS sends $120.8K to the US Treasury, and the Clintons got theirs. Effective the CVlintons grabbed $80K from the US Treasury into their pockets. Nice racket.

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
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Reply to  Fester_N_Boyle
7 years ago

You are implying they actually pay “taxes” on those contributions? I find that very hard to believe. I would want to audit those figures myself. At this point, I don’t even trust the IRS. My working assumption with the CCS, Clinton Crime Syndicate, is they didn’t pay a dime because they are a “non-profit” organization.

Notsothoreau
Notsothoreau
Reply to  ciribiribin
7 years ago

That wasn’t mentioned in any of the MSM stories. It was all about the wife not speaking. We are supposed to think its out of line to wonder why she didn’t speak.

Sam
Sam
Reply to  ciribiribin
7 years ago

Khan’s son was a muslum, therefore should have never been allowed in the U.S. military…

Bill Jones
Bill Jones
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

Trump blew it. He should have said “I feel sorry for the Khans and all the other parents who lost children in the senseless waqs that Hillary Clinton supports”.

JohnTyler
JohnTyler
7 years ago

“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.” ― Joseph Goebbels We have today in the USA the greatest propaganda machine the world has ever witnessed. Silicon Valley (social media), the mainstream media and Wall Street are all in the tank for maintaining the liberal progressive elites in power and they have the wherewithal and the will to do this. They are doing this. Goebbels must be spinning in his grave with envy; he could only dream of such of convergence of money, talent and technology (OK, he could never have imagined the tech… Read more »

RobM
RobM
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Reply to  JohnTyler
7 years ago

The propagandists are in a pickle. They can fake everything, but I think, just like the Wizard of Oz, you can pull all the levers for just so long…. until the little dog unveils you. Or the often referred to Emperor parable. To your point, I don’t see them as doing their propaganda properly. We’re witnessing the most spastic attempts and ham-handed attempts at propaganda. The talking heads have to keep the plates spinning. It’s always worked ,…. but the stresses are showing. They still may pull it all off , as they tear Trump everyday, but too, a lot… Read more »

Uncola
Uncola
7 years ago

I tend to believe the “highest of the high” cloud people know exactly what they want and how to get there. The political establishment and mainstream media, however, represent the” middle cloud” folks stumbling around in the fog of their own survival instincts. Greed is how they obtain what they want. Fear is why they rally around what they do NOT want. Indeed, those of the “middle clouds” are guided by greed and fear and this is how the “highest of the high” shape those below them. The Hegelian Dialectic is how Orwell’s vision of a jackboot stomping upon the… Read more »

meema
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Reply to  Uncola
7 years ago

Unfortunately I do not think you are far off. 🙁

El Polacko
El Polacko
7 years ago

In a past career, I had extensive experience with tending to the entitled snots that make up today’s chattering classes. Almost to a man or woman, they are the offspring of well to do, upper middle class parents who could afford to shell out $40-$60K a year to send them to places like the Columbia or Northwestern “J” Schools. The parents would then continue the stipend once their precious snowflakes found nothing but unpaid internships waiting for them in the real world where a baccalaureate degree in Journalism generates the lowest ROI of any career that requires such a credential.… Read more »

meema
Member
7 years ago

There’s always the transitional stage as civilization morphs where the old timers still cling to the way it used to be. Eventually when those die off the history is relegated to dusty volumes never opened. We seem to be speeding up though. I have a 35 year old friend who didn’t know what an 8 track was. I’m an old timer who recalls that journalism was once a noble profession. When my generation is gone, there will be no recollection of anything but news as entertainment and a vehicle for selling products. Then the illusion of news as being unbiased… Read more »

Jarhead
Jarhead
7 years ago

ZMan, I am a lurker. I follow your blog daily. I am always impressed with your thoughts, and also with your commentators thoughts. As my moniker states, I am a former Marine, also a Police Officer from Maryland. I am currently a fisheries biologist from a state agency. Boy, if that’s not a change in venues, I don’t know what is. I have a feeling you are from the great state of Maryland ( if so we chewed the same ground). I honestly believe, that right now the dirt people/ middle class cloud people are pretty pissed off. The media,… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  Jarhead
7 years ago

@ Jarhead – Thank you for your comments. I must agree Germans and Americans approach problems very differently. Not good or bad – just different. Having worked with Americans for a number of years, it’s always interesting to observe over the course of my engineering career how Americans tend to jump in and sort things out, making things up as they go. Germans on the other hand tend to discuss, debate and arrive at a conclusion to a problem before taking action. Both styles have their pros and cons, but ultimately we arrive at a successful conclusion. Americans value the… Read more »

Some Guy in OR
Some Guy in OR
7 years ago

Nearly 25 years ago, when I was a senior in high school, my parents took me to a private “career counselor.” He talked to me about my interests and skill set, and administered a rather lengthy personality test. When we met to review the results and discuss his impressions, he focused on my enthusiasm for research and writing, as well as my motivator – which I had naively submitted as “truth.” He, in his equal naivety, suggested journalism. The amusing thing here is that I had attempted in high school to get involved in the school paper, as well as… Read more »

Kathleen
Kathleen
7 years ago

“It really was not so long ago when it was easy to be entirely uninformed about the world”. I had a good laugh over that one, Z. Because it is just as easy today to be entirely uninformed about the world. We are drowning in information, opinion, advertisement, and propaganda. And yet, people seem “stoopider” than ever. At some point, the brain starts filtering in a serious way. What to choose, what to choose….When it’s intellectual work to know what’s going on (for real) in the world, and all that constant entertainment and disinformation is literally in your face all… Read more »

Crispin
Crispin
7 years ago

So does this mean the Cloud people are still pushing the pendulum farther out? Or are they desperately trying to prevent it from swinging back?

Severian
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

Put me down for “desperate.” To overstretch an analogy once again, we’re in the “burn the witch!” phase of the Reformation / Counter-Reformation. The Elite can’t uninvent the printing press, so they’re going to barbecue a few social deviants in the hope of channeling the dangerous new ideas back into the old forms. The Media Elite are, as you say, dumb as goldfish, but even goldfish can see that if Trump wins, their whole world ends. Who needs the White House Press Corps when you’ve got @realDonaldTrump? Just as the Schoolmen were in no position to deal with Luther because… Read more »

Severian
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

He’s a threat to the Media, and there’s no meaningful difference between the Media and the major parties anymore. The Media already have great difficulty setting the narrative when it comes to Trump; a President Trump would have a much larger megaphone and could bypass them almost entirely if he chose. I think the light finally dawned for them when he skipped the Fox debate, and it cratered their ratings and forced them to give back a zillion advertiser dollars. They’re so used to being the gatekeepers that they have no idea how hated and distrusted they are; Trump is… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Severian
7 years ago

I agree, they perceive him as an existential threat. He probably isn’t but they’re so stupid, never having thought rationally in their lives, that they are freaking out. It’s fun to watch, and if he wins it will turn deadly serious as the Cloud People will stop at nothing to either co-opt or destroy him. I’m hoping that in the frenzy they devour each other.

Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

Is Trump really a threat? The man himself? No. It’s pretty funny when you think about it that some guy who owns a bunch of buildings and hosted a reality show should have become an existential threat to all that is good and holy. No, the point is not DJT himself but how he has become a conduit for all the discontent that is gurgling under the surface among the electorate, who (in the case of the GOPe, as it’s called by the disaffected) have been bamboozled into supporting candidates who are more beholden to the Chamber of Commerce than… Read more »

Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

for people who don’t actually do anything, symbolism looms larger than for people who do stuff Well, I don’t really know about that, since I come from a very SWPL background and don’t have much familiarity with people who “do stuff” if by that you mean engage in non-intellectual professions (I could be wrong about the actual purport of the distinction). All I know is that I pretty much count as a “class traitor” among the people I know and mostly keep my opinions to myself. For a long time I’ve been sort of surprised at how “personally” a lot… Read more »

Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

Oh, sorry, my bad for misunderstanding. You were referring to this idea of the media telling people what to think just the other day. I actually think that it jibes with what I was talking about, and also with your post here. The role of the media is not to cater to the interests (in both senses of the word) of their readership, but rather to convey to them what everyone’s Myrmex Overlords want them to think. Oddly enough, the reference here to NRO going over to FB commenting as a way of policing the threads and kicking off the… Read more »

Walt Reed
Walt Reed
Member
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

Medicine Men are alive and well.

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
Member
Reply to  Saurons_Lazy_Eye
7 years ago

Bullseye!

Phelan Kell
Phelan Kell
Reply to  Saurons_Lazy_Eye
7 years ago

I don’t think Trump is truly a threat to TPTB or the Deep State, but his supporters…. Early in the Obummer administration it seemed they were trying very hard to goad the Right into violence. When no one took the bait, we had a number of events that were false flags, or were very poorly executed (Thank God) by Leftists. And now, Obummer is importing muslims at a feverish rate hoping for the American Rape-o-pooloza that is happening in Europe. Their need to create fear in the sheople/public is becoming quite obvious because only thru stark, raving fear can they… Read more »

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

For all several true right wing types (not NR pussies and all their sisters) being right wing is a process, and a lifelong process. Learning something new is not picking up some shiny rock, it means you were wrong about something you thought you knew. Being left wing is a lifelong process of throwing kitty litter over the waste of decaying opinions. When someone exclaims that your shit does stink it creates a panic that is personal, and out comes another bag of litter. Loving the opinions of your friends as your own is probably a sign of mental health.… Read more »

Severian
Reply to  james wilson
7 years ago

Nicely put. Nobody *likes* being wrong, exactly, but most of us have vast experience with it, so it doesn’t shake our identities to the core. And acknowledging the possibility of being wrong also means being able to say “I don’t know.” That’s my most reliable test for if someone is a liberal: Can you admit you don’t know something “intellectual”? They’ll cop to not knowing where the nearest post office is, or being wrong about which way to turn on Main Street, but ask them anything they think they, as Smart People, *should* know, and all of a sudden the… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

One of my colleagues brought up the idea that Mr. Trump is just a ploy, and has no real intention of becoming president. He is so unpopular with his own party that is difficult to imagine anyone actually wanting to vote for him. We have seen many of his interviews and frankly, it boggles that mind that any American could even consider him as the next President. There’s a sense that so many the things he says are so completely off base, crude, offensive, or just simply wrong, that people are having a very difficult time accepting him even at… Read more »

An Observer
An Observer
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
7 years ago

You’ve got many stimulating lunch discussions ahead, Karl, but I’m betting that they’ll be much more interesting than about Trump taking a dive. This party, that party, all uni-party. It IS a declared multi-front war, Americanism vs. the global elite. If Trump is the kind of American that millions of US thinks he is, it’ll make for interesting times with a more hopeful meaning. If Americanism were to succumb, then we all might as well start fixing up our pens on the Animal Farm to be comfortable for at least while we’re allowed to stay…..

Dr. Mabuse
Dr. Mabuse
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
7 years ago

It’s simply not true that nobody wants to vote for Trump. He does rallies every day, sometimes several per day, and draws large crowds. Frequently people are turned away because the halls are completely filled. The press never interviews those people; the closest they come is picking out some “pox on both your houses” type who gives the impression that Trump was somehow accidentally picked by lottery to lead the Republicans, and doesn’t command any real loyalty. That’s far from the truth.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
7 years ago

Your lunch colleague is right. Trump put his hat in the ring because he wanted to have some fun running his mouth in a few primaries and this would get him the cred he felt he needed to pull in a few Chinese billionaires for a scheme he was working on. Then he said whaddaya mean we can’t build a wall, are you retarded? And, the million Muslim march to America will now take a hiatus. Suddenly he’s the front runner, and worse, the other 16 contenders are revealed as the tepid prog sucking wannabees that they are. I believe… Read more »

Zeroh Tollrants
Zeroh Tollrants
Reply to  james wilson
7 years ago

My mother introduced me to Fred & Donald Trump at the RNC in the late 80s. Donald Trump was thinking (seriously) about a political career, even then. Father Fred even mentioned that he, himself, gave weight to the idea of making a run for local office, with an eye for advancement. I was 18 yrs old then, and 50 now. I’ve been active in Rep politics all that time, the first 25-30 or so yrs, inside the machine, the last few, outside. In all that time period, I’ve been 100% certain that Trump would run for the office. Nothing offends… Read more »

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
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Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
7 years ago

So Karl, it seems the media (liberal) in your neck of the woods is also in the tank against Trump. Of course we hear it over here ALL the time. What I wonder is “what do you and your lunch friends have to say about Hillary?” Is she a better choice to your informed opinions? Is there anyone over there who has anything good to say about The Donald?

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  LetsPlay
7 years ago

@ LetsPlay – Europeans have had a generally positive experience with female leadership so it is nothing remarkable to us. Mrs. Thatcher in UK, Mrs. Dalia Grybauskaite in Lithuania, Mrs. Helle Thorning-Schmidt in Denmark, Mrs. Erna Solberg in Norway and of course Mrs. Merkel here in Germany. So Europeans tend to see Mrs. Clinton from that perspective. On the other hand, Mr. Trump comes across in a very bad light because he aggrandizes himself with no political experience, even at a grass roots level. I think if he had actually held some sort of political office in the past and… Read more »

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
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Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
7 years ago

Thanks for the reply Karl. However, I was very interested to know more specifically what your guys thought about Frau Clinton. Also, I find it humorous when people mention Trump not having any political experience when after almost eight years of Obozo, our Clown-in-Chief, he entered office with even less “Life” experience than Trump would bring. But let’s discuss Clinton. Please. Also, I think the fact that America has not had a woman President is more a reflection of the parties. Of course there are able and qualified women in our country who could perform in that role, however, TPTB… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  LetsPlay
7 years ago

@ LetsPlay – To your point on my personal take on Mrs. Clinton. Personally I don’t see her as the right person to be running your country. First, she lacks credibility to me based on all the mystery and questionable dealings in her past and present. I think she’s untrustworthy and will say and do whatever it takes to get herself into office. Second, she lacks any significant accomplishments to justify her abilities to hold the office. Third, without her ex-president husband, I doubt she would be able to stand on her own or would have gotten this far without… Read more »

ApoloDoc
ApoloDoc
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

In an online discussion a couple of weeks ago a very strong case was made that a Trump inauguration would likely mean serious prosecution for members of the left. At the RNC Chris Christie laid out the prosecution’s case against Hillary. Imagine if he actually had the authority to pursue such a case as Attorney General or some sort of special prosecutor! Trump talks of some altered goals and objectives for the US military which does not seem to be appreciated by much of the military industrial complex. There are a multitude of possibilities that make Trump a very scary… Read more »

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Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

They are desperate. Everywhere they are seeing the agenda they’ve been pushing for the last seventy years crumble into dust. It’s crumbling in Europe and it’s crumbling here. They thought they had us whipped down and in a coma of indifference. Instead the giant is awakening and is about to bare the iron hand. So they are desperately trying everything they know has worked over the past seventy years to beat the giant back down and none of it is working.

What happens next is up to them.

Andrea Shea King
Andrea Shea King
Reply to  thezman
7 years ago

Believe NOTHING of any media-connected poll. “Pat Caddell commented re: ‘Cooked’ Reuters Poll: “Never in My Life Have I Seen a News Organization Do Something So Dishonest’” Reuters tampered with its own daily tracking poll to manufacture a sudden surge for Hillary Clinton. http://www.breitbart.com/…/pat-caddell-on-cooked-reuters-poll-never-in-my-life- have-i-seen-a-news-organization-do-something-so-dishonest/ Since then, The Arizona Freedom Alliance conducted a massive poll in which they polled 50,000 people — asking basic questions on the economy, terrorism, immigration and presidential pick. The 13 pollsters are Graduate students from all walks of life and have served in the Military. It took them most of two weeks to be sure… Read more »

Gary
Gary
7 years ago

Symbolism was what I had in mind too so I think I’m understanding your meaning. Keep in mind that this election is happening as the economy is losing its legs. People will go to great lengths for the opportunity to dance around as jesters to appease the court and that means feigning lots of emotion over matters that are mostly trivial. Anyway, with all the nonsense of the mass media age, there is the benefit of being able to seek out the other bad thinkers just as easily. Albeit more quietly and with more tip-toeing around. I’ve been reading your… Read more »

UKer
UKer
Reply to  Gary
7 years ago

“the opportunity to dance around as jesters” Nice line, Gary. well done. By the way, purely as an aside (though it does touch on the media, as I suppose most things must these days) I do wonder, once Obumble has gone, how many of his present toadies, fans and backers in the media will even think about him and his great works. My impression, flawed as it must be by age and distance, is that the impression he will leave on life will be in exactly the same way that a hole remains when one takes one’s hand out of… Read more »

SgtBob
7 years ago

Things that are measurable can be controlled. Social sciences teach all things are measurable. Therefore, all things can be controlled by the ones who develop and understand tests, studies and polls.

Camacho 2016
Camacho 2016
7 years ago

“Glenn Beck is having a sex change”

…so he’s becoming a “man” now? Should we call him Caitlyn?

Jak Black
Jak Black
7 years ago

You hinted at this, but to me, the most insidious aspect is not the outright banning or removal of comments, but the willfull “guiding” of opinion – hiring employees to write opinion under the guise of the hoi polloi, students to upvote right-thiink, etc.

There was a time when I actually found the reviews on Amazon.com useful. Then companies obviously took note and began to flood the site with reviews, and that came mostly to an end.

John
7 years ago

The biggest mistake that InstaPundit made was dropping their homebrew commenting system and taking on Disqus. They lost the (sometimes miss-used) ‘Report’ button and gained legions of SJW trackers that could then target commenters that expressed ‘bad thoughts’.

Like Jack Nickleson said to the dog, “Don’t ever change, you’re perfect just the way you are!”.

elfi
7 years ago

Facts are more persuasive than opinions.
Who Controls Your Mind, http://i.stack.imgur.com/PPhcg.jpg

Garry F. Owen, Trooper
7 years ago

This is also reflected in the surprise by the folks holding the megaphones when the dirt people don’t follow the script .

sfxxxxxxxxc
7 years ago

Dude, just stumbled across your site. You’re really good.

teapartydoc
Member
7 years ago

Nice bit of sarcasm at the end. Have you ever looked at the intellectus /ratio dichotomy of mind in philosophy, or did you come up with the cloud/dirt thing totally on your own?

teapartydoc
Member
Reply to  teapartydoc
7 years ago

I wasn’t trying to be funny here. Central planning may be successful at accruing power and consolidating companies within certain parameters, but it is uniformly fatal for economies in the long run. And the dichotomy I mentioned is a real thing and fits in with your own thinking. I’ll admit it’s an obscure topic because it is nigh impossible to discuss non-analytical thinking in conventional terms (things that don’t lend themselves to analysis get ignored), but it goes right to the heart of the Plato-Aristotle division in philosophy.