Let A Thousand Honkies Bloom

When I was at the American Renaissance conference, the striking thing to me was the number of smart and level headed people I met. Just about everyone I met had some college, read books and was familiar with the Western canon. Not everyone was a scholar, but everyone I met was refreshingly open minded. Even the young guys were genuinely curious about the world and our times. I mentioned to Audacious Epigone that it was like an academic conference, except everyone was smart and a heretic.

The fact is though, most everyone there was from the same cultural and philosophical place. If you are a fan of American Nations, the crowd was mostly Midlanders, but there were a good number of people from Yankeedom. If I had to guess, the Tidewater was the third most represented nation. My bet is the least represented region of the country was the Appalachia. I did not quiz all 400 people at the event, but I I have a good ear for American regional accents and I did not hear too many hill people or Southerners.

When I cruise around social media, the one thing that strikes me about the alt-right is its Yankee vibe. It is a very northern honky phenomenon. It’s also a very suburban phenomenon too. I’ve made the point for years that libertarianism was a suburban white boy ideology. Most of the guys calling themselves alt-right grew up in the suburbs and started out in life as libertarians. It’s why the alt-right has a greater focus on the JQ than the race issue or even immigration. Jews are simply more numerous in the North.

America is a big place though and there are lots of places where the bourgeois burgher is the weirdo. You see that with the divide between guys like Hunter Wallace and some of the alt-right people over optics. Posts by Wallace here and here, if you are interested in the topic. The gist of it is the alt-right guys think the Southern Nationalists are embarrassing, because they remind people of the old school Southern racists. The Southern Nationalist think many of the alt-right are LARP’ing poseurs or hypocrites.

The thing with whites in the South and Appalachia is that race and heritage are the towering issues, which is not something people from Yankeedom understand. They won the Civil War and got to impose their culture on everyone else to their satisfaction. People outside of Yankeedom care deeply about preserving their culture, which is a unique subset of America. They are also far less concerned about the JQ stuff, as the only Jews they see are on television. It’s just not an issue for them.

It’s not just a North-South thing. People in the Midwest, the hilariously named “cuck belt”, have their own issues. The effects of globalism probably score higher with them than race or ethnicity. Immigration, on the other hand, is the symbol of globalism and resonates more with honkies in Ohio, than with alt-right guys in New York. It’s in the Midwest where the sense of alienation is strongest. Popular culture, politics, and economics are controlled by people who no longer look familiar to the average white Midwesterner.

Of course, the West and Southwest are ground zero for immigration. It’s not an accident that the three most important voices on the issue are based in California. Steve Sailer, Victor David Hanson and Mickey Kaus are Californians. If you have spent your life in Los Angeles, race is not an issue that concerns you. Immigration, on the other hand, is all consuming. It is the most important issue in California politics for over three decades. The same is true to a lesser degree all over the West and Southwest.

The reality is that the emerging identity politics will inevitably have a regional character to it. It’s also going to have a class character. Richard Spencer gets some grief for being a snob, but he’s just a guy from the gentry class. Steve Sailer is white bread middle-class, because he is from the white bread middle class. The Southern Nationalists are going to be working class guys. America has never had a rigid class system, but class still exists and every American is a product of their social class to some degree.

The point of this is that we are on the cusp of a new era. We have had identity politics for a long time, but whites have not been a part of it. That’s changing as the nation’s demographics change. Even as we lurch into majority-minority status, America is a big country with lots of regional differences. It is a land of nations, with unique local cultures, that persist despite the efforts at homogenization. The white identity that emerges will reflect the local culture. That’s just going to be another feature of the new America.

That means the people talking about this stuff will have to respect this reality in order to understand it. More important, the guys into the advocacy side of things are going to have respect the fact that what works for them may not work everywhere. There’s also the fact that cultural movements are inevitably lots of trial and error. Like memes that go viral on-line, for every good protest idea there are thousands that fizzle. In the fullness of time, these regional white identity groups will figure out what works for them or they go away.

We live in an age of firsts. We are the first country to be ruled over by people desperately trying to commit cultural and demographic suicide. We are the first people, with a significant element that celebrates the extinction of our race. These are events so outside the norm of human history, there are no examples in the past to rely upon for guidance and solutions. No one knows what a majority-minority America will be like. No one knows if it is sustainable. What’s coming this century is entirely new.

Let a thousand honkies bloom.

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Ganderson
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I think the Swedes beat us to it

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Our side is still in the process of building itself. The flip side is currently more significant IMO, as there is little doubt the left hates white men.

walt reed
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Liberal whites hate themselves. They must hate all whites to remain reasonably consistent. Low self esteem is a calling card of the left. Unless one is in charge, of course. 1st class all the way for the leading true believers.

Karl McHungus
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Low self esteem?! They are full to the gunwales with self esteem.

cerulean
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It depends on whether they look down on other whites or look down on themselves.

walt reed
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Self hatred is not consistent with high self esteem. They do despise themselves publicly at every opportunity. They are merely proud to compete in the contest to prove who hate themselves the most.

Doug
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Get a load of this gem. Now we White people are supposed to open our hearts and make ourselves vulnerable for “White Wounding”, so we will have this empathy because our “White privilege” has hurt the world or something. Its double speak for justifying White Genocide.
Try not to gag if you read it.

Towards a Concept of White Wounding https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-benn/towards-a-concept-of-whit_b_7985986.html

DMac
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That was a toilet full of word salad. Who can make up shit like that?

Trey
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Every damn time…
Jesse Benn: “… Sporadic writer. Member of the Tribe. PhD student. No war but class war. Eat the rich.”

Doug
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Whats significant is the two “people desperately trying to commit cultural and demographic suicide” are people who have this fantasy they will rule and get there via genocide. I’m from northern NH Yankeedom and WV Appalachia. Both places have a lot in common. They just want to be left alone. Both smell a very dead stinking rat. And both are the type of American’s who you really do not want to piss off. Because when you try to force these dirt people, and that are realistic dirt people, they tend to be people who you can’t stop or switch off.… Read more »
wakxed
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“No one knows if it is sustainable.”
A small highly-paranoid part of me believes the upper-crust doesn’t care if it’s sustainable because they will just hole up in their bunkers if things go south. With the coming robot age, they will no longer need to rely on blue-collar folks for their goods & services which makes them much more dangerous.

pyrrhus
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It’s clearly not sustainable, history tells us that.

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Having lived for considerable lengths of time in five of the American Nations, I can vouch for Zman’s observations. These nations are as different as Dutch are from Germans are from Danes–despite all of the nations speaking English. The differences lie in a deeper cultural place than mere language. When I see alt-right-ish folks poking at others, many times it is this cultural difference that is at its root. Some of the alt-right luminaries are, at heart, provincial. One might have globetrotted and now resides in the Old World, but their head space is still in Yankee-land, with Yankee-land predilections.… Read more »
cerulean
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“The alt-right/white-identity “thing” will have to bridge these cultural gaps.”

‘It’s OK to be white” does this pretty well.

james+wilson
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We lose sight of the fact that the country was founded on provincialism elevated to a principle. That was the Founder’s solution to Montesquieu’s dictum that the one thing a republic could not be was large. Plus. provincialism is the seed of talent and genius, universalism never. Yet the narrative reserves provincialism for the rubes and universalism for the sophisticated.

Tim Newman
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We are the first country to be ruled over by people desperately trying to commit cultural and demographic suicide.

Others beat me to it, but I think the race is still on and Sweden, Germany, Britain, and Australia are looking like strong finishers.

We are the first people, with a significant element that celebrates the extinction of our race.

If you include self-hating whites, I think others beat you there too.

james+wilson
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“We are the first country to be ruled over by people desperately trying to commit cultural and demographic suicide.” There was a not insignificant amount of this contributing to the collapse of the Roman Empire. Empires do not inspire loyalty, and are not intended to. They rule by other means. Sweden, Germany, Britain, and Australia are satellites of an empire, a failing empire. Eighty years ago Orwell was writing of the type who bring this about, English intellectuals who hated everything British and had no affection for their country. Now that is universal in the EU.

Hypercacher
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Thank you for that map Zman. Many tend to forget that European nation states once composed of many, many different groups (we can name them as tribes or nations) speaking different languages with different customs. Example, France, Italy, Spain had many regions where inhabitants spoke regional dialects but not the “classical” French, Italian, Spanish. United States is similar. I do not think someone from Deep South has anything in common with someone from NYC or Jersey for example. English is the lingua franca but they are very different types of english. Sometimes I wonder how this United States will endure… Read more »
dave
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Yeah, that’s why Donald Trump isn’t president today.

cerulean
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Do I need to say it again?

Tim
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Nah, I’ll do it for you.

It’s okay to be white!

A.B. Prosper
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It won’t any more than its rival empire of lies the USSR did, In some ways its Good Riddance, I’m from the Rocky Mountain West and see no reason why people who have nothing in common with me from say Boston or Connecticut should be deciding policy for me and mine This is though as much an urban/rural gap as a state one, most “Deplorables” have enough common that if we left each other mostly alone could share a nations, upstate NY isn’t the same as say Colorado but it does have things in common. Chicago or NYC might as… Read more »
Rod1963
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The Southern white folk have much in common with their white peeps in Ohio. Both have been hammered by globalization and immigration. The same applies to the white folks such as Sailer, and other s here in California with those in Ohio, George and the Mid-West folks. The fact that we’re separated by thousands of miles, we do share lots of things in common if you’re talking about blue collars and middle-class folks. Globalization, immigration and even big box stores wiping out our local businesses are just a few things we have in common. You want more? Contempt and frustration… Read more »
Ganderson
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Many in Ohio are essentially southern white folk. ” They learned readin’, writin’, Route 23…”

Anti-Gnostic
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“I do not think someone from Deep South has anything in common with someone from NYC or Jersey for example.”

Football. Conservative ideals. Outdoor activities. These are but three of numerous examples of how Americans regardless of location share commonalities. You are selling white people here short.

Herrman
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You forgot about the Sagebrush Rebellion types. The intermountain west is where the normies stopped talking about it, and are taking up arms. It’s been pretty ham-fisted so far, but they will learn.

Reluctantreactionary
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I grew up in the Midwest. The only Jews I knew were Mr. Zimmerman, who ran a shoe store and supported our school Christmas charity drive, and Mr. Bohm, who owned the camera store. I referred to Bohm as my Uncle even though we were not related. He helped our family through a rough patch. I knew nothing of Bolshevism, or the Frankfurt school. The Jews I knew were successful because they worked hard. TRS has a heavy focus on the JQ because most of the founders of TRS are New Yorkers. To a Midwesterner, David Duke’s focus on Israel… Read more »
Alzaebo
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TRS? (Not on urbandictionary or knowyourmeme)
Thanx

Diavolobello
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“the only blacks one sees are on TV.”

Lucky them.

Issac
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The Irish Question…

William Foster
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Outstanding blogpost Zman. I don’t understand why the different factions of the Dissident Right feel the need to attack each other so much. We’re all pulling in the same direction. A Steve Bannon-style American Economic Nationalism may not achieve all of the goals of a Hunter Wallace or Richard Spencer, but it’s a heck of a lot better than the status quo. In the short term, we absolutely must stop the flow of third world immigration and deport the criminals, temporary refugees and illegals. If that doesn’t happen, civil war is assured. The Trump/Bannon coalition is the best and only… Read more »
Karl McHungus
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They are all chasing the same small pool of $$

Issac
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One could rationally argue that economic nationalism doesn’t address the imminent demographic paradigm shift and voting patterns would bear this criticism out. America, for all intents and purposes, will be destroyed when Texas goes blue. And that will happen in the 2020 or 2024 without presently unthinkable immigration policy change.

Anti-Gnostic
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Race realism, like Cultural Marxism, is pseudo-intellectual claptrap.

Ned Fells
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Your ideology is unappealing to everyone except for a few white men

Gillespie tried it on in Virginia and lost to a guy who ran an ad calling people like you racist murderers. That tells you something right there.

It’s why a democrat will win in Alabama. America is changing for the better and the youth do not want your racism

A.T. Tapman
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Hi Tiny, how goes the struggle? If America is browned down, who will keep the lights on?

Ivar
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The actual Virginians voted for Gillespie, however, it wasn’t enough given the immigrants, the blacks and the Federal employees. Same thing in Maryland. NYC voted true to form. We love posts like yours, Ned, because you confirm that our thinking is correct.

Member

They have to go back.

Karl McHungus
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Say, what’s the price for a colored woman in your part of the world? Is it one, or two, Snickers?

Glen Filthie
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I would rather have the candy bars…

Amatuer Brain Surgeon
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Amatuer Brain Surgeon

This piece is very helpful. Thank you

Anonymous White Male
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“We are the first country to be ruled over by people desperately trying to commit cultural and demographic suicide.” I think there are many examples from the Roman Empire that would argue against this. But, again, we are not ruled over by our own people anymore. “We are the first people, with a significant element that celebrates the extinction of our race. These are events so outside the norm of human history, there are no examples in the past to rely upon for guidance and solutions.” I also disagree with this. The French have been on this path since the… Read more »
cerulean
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We will probably get a number of descendants of the “conservative,” right-wing, and alt-right movements, rather than just one. And these will be in continual flux, each rising, falling, coalescing, and giving way to something new over time. What is important is to be sure that each of these descendants and their descendants firmly promotes, at a minimum, that it is OK to be white. Right now writing and distributing that message gets the police called and probably results in expulsion for college students. This needs to change. If it doesn’t, then soon writing — and perhaps even reading —… Read more »
Tamaqua
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Its all going to depend on a couple interrelated factors- first, the left continuing to flail about in incoherent screeching and recrimination while it eats itself in ever increasing radicalism. It has, along with its evil twin in the Republican political class, shown itself to be suddenly vulnerable. People who considered the last 50 years of political consensus and political parties inalterable and unchangeable have suddenly realized that, yes, the beast bleeds, and if it bleeds, it can be killed. That cannot be underestimated as a basis for a restoration of sanity. The second factor that will guarantee the shift… Read more »
Tank
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The alt right has this in common with libertarians. There aren’t that many of us, and we’re quite divided among ourselves.

Carl B.
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” No one knows what a majority-minority America will be like. No one knows if it is sustainable. What’s coming this century is entirely new.”

What is coming? Murder is what’s coming. God help minority Whites ’cause no one else will.

Karl McHungus
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The only group that has murderous intent against whites, are negroes. And that group is the one that is going to be wiped out.

Ripple
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I find it interesting that you say that the Southern Nationalists have little interest in the JQ. I stopped reading Occidental Dissent several years ago because of the virulent Jew-hatred expressed there, more from commenters than from Hunter Wallace. I followed your links there, hadn’t read that site for couple years, and it’s still the same. A particularly nasty Jew-hater named Denise is still commenting there.

Vince Gee
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This is the youth

This is the future

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vBvajtKK9wQ

Not you

Karl McHungus
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The future belongs to me.

Member

If that moron represents the future, the human race is in trouble.

Member

I think you’ve hit the key to the greater alt-Right.
It is a coalition – anti-Immigration, southern nationalism, traditional values, are all distinct and separate, but confederated against a common enemy.
Many of the 11 (sub)Nationsare on the same side v.s. the elite and globalists, but for unique and distinct reasons.

Ben
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I’m from the Left Coast, my wife is Honduran, and I’m learning Spanish. I’m actually positive about the future. I love pussy, and if we fill up our country with Latina pussy, I’m cool with demographic change.

But no Asians. I don’t want any Asians coming to the USA.

Pimpkin\'s Nephew
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Dudo que haya compartido con su esposa hondurẽna tales ‘sentimientos refinados’. Al menos espero que no.

A.T. Tapman
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I hope your home smells like Honduras, Forever.

Tim
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Speaking of cultural suicide, Sailer had a good piece today (Nov. 8) on the Times trying to explain the Air Force Academy race hate hoax. He asked what percentages of hate incidents are actually real, and not hoaxes. I would bet less than 5% are real. It occurred to me that there are a number of people on this blog with the research and stat skills to work this out. If you fall in that box, read Sailer’s piece and give it some thought.

OneEyedJack
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Someone has already begun that work. This site is worth a look.

http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/

Karl McHungus
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re:last week-end’s post

Voxday, the komic book kommando, is super butthurt over comments Zman made about his 16 point plan for world domination. It’s too funny, really. The guy spends all day talking about comic books and yet considers himself the second coming of Aristotle. I would bet money he has a special made outfit he wears while pontificating on one nonsense thing after another. He has the mentality of a 13 year old fat kid, lost in his own little fantasy world.

Ivar
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Vox makes some good points, but he is also one of those white guys who thinks he’s an American Indian, which always cracks me up.

Alzaebo
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60 million gawddam Irishmen, and every one of them had “a grandmother who was a full-blood Cherokee”

Hunter
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Yeah..there’s a fight brewing, but in the end I think our destination is down the same path of the former Yugoslavia. We’re headed for a multi-faceted national divorce….and it’s gonna be a brutal one, indeed.

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