Nature Finds A Way

One of the more frustrating things about biological realism is that most people really wish there was no such thing as biological realism. The reason ad makers keep trying to sell stuff using little girl football players or race mixing campers is they know most white people wish all that stuff was true. Those ads and their assumptions are flattering to SWPL-ville types. The studied dismissal of human biology by our ruling elite goes largely unchallenged, because the great white middle class hopes they are right about all of it.

I’m always reminded of this when the topic of African population numbers and the world’s most important graph are mentioned. Putting the racial issue aside, the population explosion in Africa is going to be the defining issue of the 21st century. Inevitably, someone always says something like “that assumes those trends go on forever.” The implication is that population math will magically correct itself. Any effort to explain the math is met with more denial and hand waving. Most people don’t want to know about it.

The fact is, the West is struggling with a sub-Saharan population of about three quarters of a billion people. Those flotillas of Africans crossing the Mediterranean every day are causing all sorts of political and economic trouble for Europe. The number of migrants landing on the beaches of Europe are in the thousands right now. That’s thousands per day. Imagine what happens when it is ten thousand a day. In fifteen years the population of Africa will double. The migrant troubles of today will feel like the good old days.

Nature finds a way of solving these sorts of problems. Thomas Malthus gets a bad rap from history, but he gave us a great concept. It is the Malthusian catastrophe. Once population numbers reach the carrying capacity of the land, society collapses and humans fall back to subsistence level existence. It’s never happened, as agricultural technology has far outstripped population growth, but that does not mean catastrophic risk does not increase with population numbers. Risks like pandemics, for example.

Right now, Africa has a Marburg outbreak and a Madagascar Plague outbreak. The Marburg virus is the most interesting. It kills 88% of the people that contract it. There is no known treatment for it either. The outbreak thus far is limited, but Africa is not exactly a well oiled machine when it comes to managing large scale social projects, like containing disease outbreak. Talk to people who study this stuff and you come away with the sense that Africa has been very lucky and their luck is about to run out.

The Madagascar Plague is a different sort of problem. It is a combination of bubonic, pneumonic and septecaemic plagues. Modern medicine has treatments for all three and they are cheap enough to get to Africa. The trouble is, these diseases spread quickly. African medical service are like everything in Africa. They are a circus of inefficiency, corruption and ineptitude. It would not take a very large outbreak to tip over the medical system, as well as the supply chain from the West, to that medical system.

Getting back to the most important graph in the world, one possible change to it could come from a wide scale pandemic. It’s not inconceivable. There have been plenty of pandemics in human history. The Black Plague not only altered the structure of European society, it altered European DNA. There are some good arguments that the Black Death helped accelerate Europe’s cultural progress out of the medieval period. The relationship of land, labor and status were thrown over by a great die off.

There’s another angle to it. The Black Plague did not originate in Europe. It arrived by sea in October 1347 when 12 Genoese trading ships docked at the Sicilian port of Messina. Most of the sailors aboard the ships were dead, and those who were still alive were close to it. They had The Plague. Even if those ships had never made it to Europe, the strange disease that was killing people along the great trade routes of Asia was on its way. The Black Death came to Europe the same way the first people came to Europe.

Human-like animals burst out of Africa at least twice and probable three or four times in history. We know that modern humans displaced the Neanderthals, who left Africa and settled Eurasia. The Denisovans were probably displaced by Neanderthals, but that’s open to debate. There is the possibility that the out of Africa narrative is wrong in some important ways, but the available data still suggests that there have been waves of humans out of Africa for as long as there have been bipeds on earth.

Maybe that’s how Mother Nature erases the board and starts over. When one wave of humans runs its course, a new batch of humans burst forth from Africa to replace the old, outmoded ones. The new batch being raw and unformed, they adapt to the new lands they inhabit and give the old evolutionary process another shot. Because they bring new diseases or new forms of diseases, they don’t have to be more fit than the indigenous populations initially. Those invisible bugs they bring with them become the great equalizer.

That could be what we are seeing today. The people of Europe and Asia had a nice run, but they have reached a dead end in the eyes of nature. The fertility rates have plummeted, even in China. In Europe, the willingness of the natives to defend themselves and their territories has collapsed. From the perspective of nature, Eurasians are looking a lot like the giant Panda. Humans may think it worthwhile to maintain a species that no longer will reproduce, but nature is unemotional about these things.

Alternatively, a great plague that originates with the swelling populations of Africa and then spreads around the world is another option. Most people who study the current crop of diseases in Africa don’t think they will mutate into something wildly contagious that overwhelms our social structures. They could be wrong about this. It could be that some new bug alters some common bug, like the flu, which then ravages the human populations of the world. Like the Black Death, it would be carried by outsiders to Europe.

Those are all pleasant outcomes to consider, but there is another option. The population of sub-Saharan Africa could reach a point where it exceeds the capacity of the West to subsidize it. Right now, without foreign aid, Africa would fall into famine and civil war. What if as their numbers increase, the per capita aid required to sustain them increases? The ability to manage the problem could have a much shorter time horizon than Western planners assume. Economic crisis could come to the West like the plague.

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Drake
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Once the Africans wear out their welcome in Europe, finish destroying their ability to feed themselves. they’ll be dying by the millions due to starvation and related diseases.
https://countrysquire.co.uk/2017/10/30/willemien/

The West will send token aid but otherwise let it happen (Asia won’t even pretend to care). No knowing if it’s enough to reduce the continent’s population to it’s carrying capacity.

Dan Kurt
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@Drake

Good to see another fan of Kim du Toit.

Dan Kurt

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All these dystopian zombie, virus killing movies are popular for a reason. We know the correction is coming.

It seems Bill Gates was back tracking a little on his messianic mission for Africa. The shit gets real and the mind focuses. Or maybe not.

YIH
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So Gates finally started taking Bob Barker’s advice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZytpnElPI_E
Now if he’d only develop a way to BSOD Africans

Karl McHungus
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Just watched the movie “Contagion” who’s plot reflects just such a situation. Best part is when Gwyenth Paltrow’s character has the top of her head sawn off (in an autopsy) and the docs remark that it is full of mush.

Jack Boniface
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The real problem is low white fertility. If it was as high as in the 1950s in America, 4 per woman, whites still would be advancing at home and around the world. The fertility crash began with the Church of England’s 1930 Lambeth Conference, when the first major Protestant denomination allowed contraception; followed quickly by the other major Protestant denominations. For Catholics, the problem advanced after Humanae Vitae in 1968, which continued the ban on contraception, but which Paul VI was too timid to enforce, crashing the Catholic birth rate as well. John Paul II and Benedict XVI also hardly… Read more »
A.B. Prosper
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The US total fertility rate has been below replacement for more time than its been above replacement by far hitting “modern” levels during the depression and staying at those levels every year except for the baby boom (1946 to 1972) all the way to current This decline was way before birth control , easy divorce and cultural Marxism In fact its been 60 years of below or just at replacement fertility for 26 years of high fertility This suggest to me the Baby Boom was an aberration . I suspect it was caused by the optimism of a vast increase… Read more »
bad guest
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Or we could just come up with a way to slowly shut down the economies of the world, and force lower consumption. Say the planet was warming because of one of necessary byproducts of production like CO2 or something.

Sea Liner
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So, you are in favor of whites overpopulating their countries just like Africans. Let’s have a race to see who gets to the demographic apocalypse first.

sdfsd
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Better us than them, no?

El+Eff
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Complimentary article from Kevin Meyers posted to “westernrifleshooters” dot “wordpress” dot “com” on August 4, 2017. Entitled “On Africa”.

Worth your time to find and read.

Dan Kurt
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“The wide-eyed boy-child we saved, 20 years or so ago, is now a low IQ, AK 47-bearing moron, siring children whenever the whim takes him and blaming the world because he is uneducated, poor and left behind.”

bad guest
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I used to have the same thought when I saw some little black kid.

Yeah, he’s cute now. But how cute will he be when he grows up and starts robbing convenience stores at gunpoint to buy a preamp and some big bass speakers for his ride so he can tool through your neighborhood at 3 AM playing hip hop at full volume and rattling every window in the neighborhood?

It kind of made me feel like an asshole, but there it is.

Tim Newman
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One crucial difference is the Black Death was not dependent on Europeans maintaining the Black Death through choice. Africa’s population growth would cease overnight if the West stopped propping up Africa; from my time there I was amazed at how much in Africa was utterly dependent on Westerners or Asians either making the products they depend on or building the things they rely on. It amounts to a massive subsidy effort; whatever can be said about Medieval Europeans, they didn’t subsidise the Black Death. At some point that will stop, and the population growth will halt with it.

DemonicProfessorEl
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True, and often forgotten in these discussions.

Also, the susceptibility of death/degeneration of third world populations to what are essentially medieval diseases.

bad guest
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“Modern medicine has treatments for all three and they are cheap enough to get to Africa. The trouble is, these diseases spread quickly.” That’s part of the problem. Another part is people may keep digging up their dead family members to dance with them, in some quaint and adorable ritual that the press oozes on and on about, and which is responsible for spreading the plague right now. “Africa has been very lucky and their luck is about to run out.” I think OUR luck runs out before theirs does. The developed West will do what they did during the… Read more »
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This. +1

It will take a currency collapse to stop the West’s pathological altruism when it comes to saving Africa.

Dan
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The Chicoms clearly have that continent in their sights, as their colonization plans are well underway. Do you think they would go so far as to implement some kind of depopulation scheme, be it a plague, famine or some other kind of disruption?

Toddy+Cat
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Given that Mao killed anywhere from 40 – 70 million of his own people in great social “experiments”, and his successors still regard him as “70% good, 30% bad”, it’s hard to believe that the Chinese are going to get all teary-eyed about black Africans, whom they more or less regard as being subhuman anyway. The Chinese tend not to be a very sentimental people anyway, and Communism doesn’t help.

bad guest
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The Chinese tend not to be a very sentimental people

Absolutely untrue. The Chinese are a deeply religious people. They worship money.

DemonicProfessorEl
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There’s also the way they deal with their irksome Muslims at homes. “Oh, the Uyghurs are rioting. Should we use the people crushing tanks or just bulldoze their city?”

Say what you will about the Chinese, but they do know how to handle some problems.

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I think the Chinese are even greedier than the Europeans, and so they will be even more susceptible to the lure of cheap labor, and that will be their undoing as it was the Europeans. Look at South Africa, if they had simply never allowed an underclass of cheap black labor to exist in their nation they would not be where they are today. The Chinese won’t be smart enough to depopulate Africa.

james+wilson
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The Chinese are not exploiting Africans for labor. They import labor into Africa whenever possible, a bone of contention already for Africans. But the truth is nobody prefers African labor, including Africans.

Eclectic Esoteric
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They are the champions of genetic engineering and are unencumbered by ethics. Their genocidal past could emerge in the future based on their risk assessment of potential Mugabe-like rampages.

Amatuer Brain Surgeon
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Amatuer Brain Surgeon

Those who succor the blind faith of evolutionism are forever sneaking teleology into their explanations and, thus, nature sees and adjusts or some such thing…

There was never any such animal as a human animal but that is the hopeful monster of the atheist clique, from Stephen Jay Gould to the ZMan.

Man is made in the image of God and have a rational and immortal whereas animals have an animal/sensitive soul and plants have a vegetative soul.

Unless one begins with Being- as did St Thomas Aquinas – one will fall for decadent and delusional “explanations” for existence.

Ivar
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Heh

JohnTyler
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Am I the only person that had to look up what SWPL means? By the way, speaking of the “out-of-Africa” hypothesis, they recently discovered in Germany ( !!) 9.7 million year old teeth (two, to be exact) of some sort of pre-ape/gorilla. Open minded scientists will re-examine the “established” evolutionary tree because apes were never supposed to live in Germany. Perhaps the German apes were seeking some “lebensraum,” given that ancient Africa was teeming with all sorts of hominids and ape/chimp like critters. Politically correct “researchers” will call this find an aberration; merely the teeth of some long extinct ape… Read more »
Karl McHungus
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those teeth; re:Piltdown Man

Karl McHungus
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is there an embargo on comments regarding Vo**ay?

Severian
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I see this all the time teaching undergraduate history classes. I’ve never met Francis Fukuyama, but when I do, I’m going to congratulate him on the bang-up job he did. Every college kid I know (many thousands at this point) believes we’ve got History dicked — we’ve figured it all out, and the forces that shaped all of human life up to this point simply don’t apply to us anymore. When I ask them why there won’t be another Great Plague, they blithely say “science.” (of course, I apparently am one of those who don’t understand “scientosupercallufragilisticexpialadocious” or whatever it… Read more »
Philip Nolan
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The problem with experts is they tend to be experts in very narrow fields. The prediction that African population will double by year 20XX is based on current trends. It ignores, as Zman points out, a Malthusian reality. African land under the control of African people can not sustain that population. Yes, Malthus could not have predicted the agricultural revolution that dramatically increased the productive capacity of the land. But that happened when Europeans or their legacy governments were largely in control. South Africa and Rhodesia were very productive when run by the British. Once the British and Dutch Afrikaners… Read more »
Karl McHungus
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Nature is full of symmetrical phenomena. If deadwood is allowed to build up in a forest, it will lead to much larger fires when it finally burns. In human populations, if the deadwood is allowed to accumulate, it leads to pandemics and so forth. By suppressing the natural culling forces of nature — as we have been doing for the last 100 or so years — we have created the back pressure for a truly gigantic corrective event. The world population of humans will reach 1B before it reaches 10B.

Dutch
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This point is very important. The how and the timing is up for debate, but the “what” shouldn’t be.

Dennis L
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The Zman chart shows half the problem. Here is the other half:
https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

Exit Only
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“From the perspective of nature, Eurasians are looking a lot like the giant Panda. Humans may think it worthwhile to maintain a species that no longer will reproduce, but nature is unemotional about these things.” That’s the money quote. Facts are indeed stubborn things.

A.B. Prosper
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Lets talk population density Oregon has a population of 4 millions and locals and former locals like me thinks it getting crowded. Germany is about 30 percent larger than Oregon , with the same population density it would be I’ guessing around 6 million . Its now 80 million and change, nearly 14x the population density There comes a point in which it simply is too crowded for a race or a culture and its pretty clear that number has been reached in Europe. People don’t want to pop out huge families in poverty stricken conditions and tenements just so… Read more »
james+wilson
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Holland is far more densely populated than Germany. The entire population of earth will fit into the state of Texas given two bedroom homes on suburban lots with room left over for parks. The real population problem is in the quality of people.

DemonicProfessorEl
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I’m a little more bearish on the 3rd world population question in that genetically speaking, those populations are dead-ends. The rates of neurodegeneracy and inbreeding are very high in Arabic and African populations, as well as Central Americans. If they do subsume the East Asians and Europeans then we’re looking at a mass extinction event, not just a disappearance of blonde hair. The low IQs combined with neurological destruction means that if the above scenario is true, with a combination of radicalized Islam, then the world’s infrastructure, including nuclear power and weaponry is ripe for decay if not use in… Read more »
JohnTyler
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Tough to predict the affects of generational inbreeding or of breeding amongst a small population. Yes, bizarre results are produced when first cousins marry and have kids; check out pictures of the mountain folks of the Appalachians; you will see some rather strange looking humans. The monarchs of Europe, due to their propensity to marry relatives, produced a good amount of not to smart folks (e.g., Prince Charles of the UK). But then again, look at the jewish people of Europe; they were confined to ghettos for hundreds of years and given their limited ability to breed with non-jews of… Read more »
Glen Filthie
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This is not a new theory. Back in the 90’s, when we had the sense to NOT flood our countries with feral low IQ Africans – we speculated that Mother Nature would do everyone a favour through the use of a Darwinian culling mechanism known as HIV/AIDS. Quite honestly, I am astonished that it hasn’t already done so. But truly, Z, you are being quite premature in writing off the white race. That ‘cultural melting pot’ is at a rolling boil. All it takes is one angry shot, or one smirking wrong thinker – and that lid will come right… Read more »
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“Trust me, if they can put 6 million jooos in the ovens ”

But they couldn’t, could they?

Glen Filthie
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Sorry Jones – you see, I’ve seen that number bandied about for over 4 decades now and – having only recently been red pilled – I used it without thinking. If you disagree with that number I have no problem with it.

Karl McHungus
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So you think Anne Frank is hiding out with Amelia Earhart somewhere? Your idiocy is mesmerizing on so many levels…

Glenfilthie
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I’m saying that if somebody wants to debate that 6 million figure – I have no problem with it. I have no dog in the fight over the ‘jooish question’ one way or the other. Suffice it to say I don’t trust them or any other self proclaimed victim group either. As a group they have lied to us, and tried to manipulate us so – so I take their Holocaust accounts with a few grains of salt. I don’t trust their historians any more than I trust their mainstream media slobs.

A.T. Tapman
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The proper count is six gorillion.

james+wilson
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The parasite needs a living host and if the host extincts himself the parasite cannot replace him. Like money, food doesn’t grow on trees in Europe, especially not in winter.

Jim from Boston
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Big picture: Humans and Nature’s fauna are incompatible.

As the world’s human population explodes, the Earth’s non-domesticated critters are dying off at an alarming rate. Except no one is alarmed, since they can only see the ‘human rights’ issues of our solipsistic folly.

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I’m really beginning to believe there is no good or evil, since an event or practice can only be judged by the outcome it creates. The third world population problem has been created by the West. Our tech, our medicine, and our food aid has caused this. Things that were done with the best of intentions have and will cause great pain and suffering. I’m pretty sure how it’s going to go. We need to look at the conditions that have been created there to get an idea about what will happen. Dense population, poor waste disposal, and a dependence… Read more »
cerulean
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On Breitbart today:

Poland Tells Young People to ‘Breed Like Rabbits’ to Solve Declining Population, Rejecting Mass Migration

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/11/09/poland-declining-birth-rate-mass-migration-have-babies/

Nice video with bunny rabbits.

J+Clivas
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Even the government won’t shield the US from imported hideous diseases.
That would be too much like xenophobia to suit the Liberals. We need a Horatius at the bridge to be CDC director. Instead, we’ve got “We’re part of the world” Freed.

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It struck me as a kid seeing how little an African can live on. We lived in a small town but outside the farms the villages got progressively smaller to the point where it would be four or five huts all populated by relatives overseen by a headman. The women raised corn and leeks, storing the corn in a sort of silo hut, taking some out at times to beat with a mortar and pestle, followed by grinding between stones by hand which was then used to make a sort of corn meal mush called sadza. Protein was obtained from… Read more »
Philhellenic
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Here’s a thought Q: Is the average life worth living? “Youth, middle age, aged: blunder, struggle, regret.” Most people probably don’t even weigh the pros and cons, but all in all, even if you’re lucky, it’s a close match. How many dead people, if they could, would have chosen to never have been born?

Karl McHungus
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None. Life is precious. More precious than anything else.

A.B. Prosper
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Cattle die, Kinsmen die. Cattle die, kindred die, Every man is mortal: But the good name never dies. Of one who has done well.
Havamal 76

Fiery Furnace
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This is spot on, well done. Score one for the Norsemen.

Philhellenic
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true for the lucky. many not so lucky. famine, disease, war, floods, fire, mental illness, addiction…life is a gift, but that “gift” comes with a heavy price tag: much suffering.

Karl McHungus
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You know, people in those places have learned to enjoy life when and how they can. It’s the neurotic insecure moderners who suffer from chronic ennui.

Fiery Furnace
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Consequential lives are precious. All the rest are irrelevant. To paraphrase Bill Burr, ‘ I don’t recognize anyone in your family portrait. It’s 25 people (defecating) into the river, achieving nothing. It’s a gd ecological disaster, and you framed it.’

soapweed
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Mr Phil in hell: Sir, I for one cannot even fathom the frequency you are operating on. Life for some is surely a twisted ordeal, however with the tiller grasped firmly the general chosen direction in life for most is absolutely attainable. Think bigly. Most of my friends will attest to that concept.
Your thought above is dismal. soapweed

Philhellenic
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you are one of the lucky. you are not suicidal. downs syndrone. depressed. suffer from addiction. have a close friend die in a car accident. suffer from severe pain or go to bed sick and hungry. count your lucky stars. not everyone is as lucky as you. curious though, you seem so oblivious to the suffering of so many all around you. this will come as a surprise to you, but there are many ppl who do wish they had never been born.

Fiery Furnace
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Suffering is the crucible from which great men are fully realized, and that grinds lesser men to dust.

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Saying there will be a malthusian catastrophe now is sort of like hearing the Marxist say “oh we’re going to get socialism right the next time” Malthus and Marx were both wrong

A.B. Prosper
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Both were partially correct Getting a reprieve doesn’t mean we will always be ahead in the game. Global population will decline either by peoples efforts or by mass death. As for Marx, the most useful term in Marxism is called alienation from the means of production (ain’t got no job, ain’t got farm) and we have a lot of that. More every year and if you think that unemployment, wage arbitrage and underemployment If you think that lack of money and income isn’t contributing to delayed families and smaller family size especially in the US and Europe you need to… Read more »
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You have to look at the nature of man and how we deal with the problems that face us. When we are confronted with a crisis, we devise a technical solution. When that technical solution is universally adopted it will in turn create it’s own crisis, and that crisis will require an even more advanced and complicated solution. Eventually, we will meet the crisis we cannot innovate our way out of. It’s not a question of if but when.

Alzaebo
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Bruce Sterling’s delightful “Holy Fire” is set some 60 years after the Great Plague Years of the 2020’s.

Alzaebo
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The SJWs will claim that Sapien’s replacement by Homo Africansis is inevitable- they’re better adapted to global warming, you see.

And their swarm will be preceded by plague, clearing the way.

Antistotle
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Keep in mind two things when looking at population statistics from African nations.

1) A lot of foreign aid to those countries is based on their reported population.
2) Politicians will lie through their teeth for a free lunch, much less a billion dollars in aid that they can skim a mil or so off the top of.

Tom
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Another possibility is that antibiotics will lose their effectiveness for many problems. Chicken houses have to use large quantities of antibiotics to support their density. I assume the human population is much the same.

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