This Way Be Monsters

An analogy I’m fond of using to describe my efforts is of a ferryman, taking people from one side of the river to the other side of the river. On one side are the political, social and moral arguments based on the blank slate. On the other side are the arguments based in biological realism. When people finally grow dissatisfied with the failure of the blank slate arguments to properly explain observable reality, the ferryman takes them over the river to the other side. What they do from there is their business. I just take them over the river.

Now, this way of stating things wildly overstates my role and influence, but it is useful in describing the whole body of writers, bloggers, podcasters and so forth, making the sorts of arguments I make here. The analogy serves another purpose. It helps frame the intellectual conflict in our current age. The people on our side know all the arguments on the other side. We were there once. The people on the other side, however, are wholly ignorant of what is happening over here. They don’t know what they don’t know.

This came to mind when perusing National Review the other day. I was sure they would have some posts slobbering over the Black Panther movie. No group is as enthusiastic for anti-racism as the modern conservative. They turn into a puddle of emotional goo whenever they see an even a mildly successful black person. It’s why CPAC was just a long line of white people taking selfies with the four black people at the event. Instead, I found this review from Jim Geraghty with a very promising headline.

It was the subhead that got my attention, because the last thing I would expect to see at National Review is the mention of human nature. The place is stuffed to the brim with foaming at the mouth blank slaters. Normally, I’d skip past a Jim Geraghty post, because he is the sort of dullard who brings shame upon the dullard community. Of course, his movie review was his normal banal nothingness. Even by the standards of movie reviews it is bland. What was striking though is there is no mention of human nature.

I re-read the thing a few times thinking I may have skipped over a line about race realism or even the reality of Africa. Nope. The closest he gets is a throw away line at the end about governance being about trade-offs. Unless you were in a coma for the month leading up to the release of Black Panther, you had to know the movie was explicitly about race. Somehow, Geraghty missed that and never mentions race once in his review. He does not even bother to acknowledge the massive marketing of the film on racial lines.

Thinking about this, it occurred to me that the so-called conservatives have turned a strange corner. Back in the olden thymes, the paleocons were sure that their wussy compatriots knew the score, but were just too frightened of Lefty to be honest about human nature, especially with regards to race. Maybe it was wishful thinking, but listen to some of the senior men in our thing, many of whom worked for outfits like National Review, and they used to talk about these things with the wuss-right types.

Maybe it is isolation, maybe it is a platonic form of assortative mating, but the remaining husk of Buckley Conservatism is stocked with people lacking the cognitive toolkit to understand the human condition. It is no longer about avoiding taboo subjects with these guys. They are now true believers in the blank slate, so whole swaths of knowledge are no longer available to them. Like Progressives, they are forced to conjure solutions from a very limited inventory of information about the human condition.

I mentioned this in one of the podcasts, but it is worth repeating. Sometime ago, I was chatting with a young woman and the topic of Somalia came up for some reason. I mentioned that Somalis have some of the lowest IQ’s measured and they clock in at an average of 69. Her question was “Is it the schools or how they are taught?” In other words, “nature” was no longer in her set of possible answers. Like so many, she had fallen so far down the rabbit hole of nurture, it is all she knew. It’s all their is.

This also helps explain why so-called conservatives are baffled by what is happening to them. They moan and groan about Trump, using language that resonates with their fellows, but it sounds rather silly to the rest of us. They can’t see that. They don’t know what’s on the other side of the river, the side we’re on, because they don’t know there is another side to the river. For them, biology is the edge of a vast ocean that can never be crossed, because they believe there is nothing on the other side, not even monsters.

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Teapartydoc
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2 years ago

They know. Their denial mechanisms are so dialed up (possibly to eleven) that their conditioning makes it seem like they are completely unaware. They have become like Winston. They love Big Brother (the blank slate) now. So they see, but they don’t.

The memes from They Live are so accurate it is ridiculous.

Teapartydoc
Member
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

I don’t buy it. They are just a smart as we are. I live around university professors. They know the score. They are simply extremely well-practiced at reciting the mantras to the point that a kind of conditioned response takes place in reaction to any unorthodox thinking. This may look like stupidity, but what it really is is evidence of very successful imprinting and training.

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
Reply to  Teapartydoc
2 years ago

I believe part of their denial lies in the fact that if they have to admit that they have been “wrong”, not only does it mean they are not as intelligent as they want you to believe, but that they have assisted in letting the genie out of the bottle. The genie that is destroying the White race as we speak. The genie that is placing animals on pedestals and declaring them not only our equals but our future successors. There are many former liberals that admit to their stupidity. There are many more that just segue over the fact… Read more »

Random Dude on the Internet
Random Dude on the Internet
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Yep. Whether they genuinely don’t believe in biology or they just pretend really hard to ignore it, it’s ultimately a distinction without a difference.

Tim
Tim
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Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

That’s the reason I got sick of NR. They continually complained about the unfairness and hypocrisy of the leftish media. I found myself saying, “Of course they lie. It’s what they do. Man the f up.” Their expedition into never Trumpism was simply the last straw for me. VDH and Andrew McCarthy essays are the only reason to go there now.

Andy Texan
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Progressive-ism and blank slate are belief systems, whether Left or Right. People who hold such beliefs are not open to argument.

Glen Filthie
Glen Filthie
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Reply to  Teapartydoc
2 years ago

I think you’re both right. My geriatric parents and in laws watch daytime TV and read the mass media and they think they’re informed. They would think our host and us guys here are bonkers because they live in a comfy retirement bubble where they don’t have to see the consequences of black “culture” and the trappings of affirmative action. Any evidence of such is seen with the usual excuses and cries of racism. They mean well, but they’re just stupid, clueless seniors that don’t know any better. My brother in law is a public educator and he is as… Read more »

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  Glen Filthie
2 years ago

Great descriptions. I can picture these folks;-)

vlad
vlad
Reply to  Glen Filthie
2 years ago

What makes up for it some is that many is the same or close-to age group see even clearer than, say Gen X or younger, how bad it is BECAUSE they were there when things were well-run and by the right people and they can compare it to now. yeah, some are comfortable in their wrong beliefs. But others can see and feel that things are wrong and because of that, they are internet freaks, constantly searching out more, trying to find out the whats and whys and whos of all this. So I know the urge is to generalize,… Read more »

james+wilson
james+wilson
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

I have experienced your point about blank state thinking in people both of the left and right side of politics. The blank state left,unlike the right, has a certain class of people who are fully invested in blank slate but have no doubt it is false. They are committed to the Potemkin village because they believe the truth is so cruel it must not be spoken–at any cost. People on the right who finally accept HBD are open to crossing that river. Funny side note–my code to enter is dnaZm.

Peter
Peter
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

I am not so sure. Jon Cole at Taki wrote an article awhile back stating that MANY mainstream Republicans read and agree with the dissident right but know it would be suicide to publicly agree with them.

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Peter
2 years ago

Of course, it wouldn’t be suicide if they all came out simultaneously and spoke the truth, and backed up everyone else who did so as well.
Unfortunately, each individual is frightened of being the first one out of the gate, and so we all stand by and watch America circle the drain.

Din C. Nuffin
Din C. Nuffin
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

On the bright side, the longer this goes on, the more obvious it becomes that the policies of the left just don’t work.

Zeroth Tollrants
Zeroth Tollrants
Reply to  Teapartydoc
2 years ago

There are a few at NR that I KNOW have to know about HBD-Cooke, Goldberg, Sloppy, they are just not that stupid. I’m not saying they’re deeply versed on the subject or anything, but they’ve got a basic understanding, especially Mischling Jonah. As for Jim Geraghty, I’ve known affable doof Jim about 10 yrs or so now. Jim is clueless about pretty much everything regarding life, including basic elements of how biology functions and intelligence is measured. Jim typifies the average conservative pundit or think tanker today. Bland, non-offensive, non-curious, and follows party line w/o any pushback. If the party… Read more »

Tamaqua
Tamaqua
2 years ago

Because if you open up that particular can of worms, it negates everything they look to as their historical “achievements” null. It means that Jefferson Davis and Alexander Stephens, not Abraham Lincoln and William Garrison, were right. The Negro is not the equal of the white man, and the last 150 years have done nothing. The same messianic fervor that has pushed the “making the world safe for democracy” of the Wilson/FDR era to LBJ’s domestic disasters are not noble progress, but miserable failures. That realization is akin to taking away the entire pseudo religion of the last 200 years.… Read more »

james+wilson
james+wilson
Reply to  Tamaqua
2 years ago

Minor correction: Lincoln did not believe the Negro to be the equal of the white man.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  james+wilson
2 years ago

Lincoln wanted the negro back in Africa.

Andy Texan
Reply to  james+wilson
2 years ago

Equal on what terms? Brain power or atheleticism?

YIH
YIH
Reply to  Tamaqua
2 years ago

On another forum I was involved in such a debate. The OP featured photos of latter-day Detroit. And here come the ‘dittohead’ posters carping about ”the result of not having a Republican mayor since the 50’s”. I pointed out that Seattle, San Fransisco and Minneapolis are just as ”liberal democrat” as Detroit, Philly and Baltimore. Yet Seattle doesn’t look like Philly, San Fran even after the Loma Prieta (AKA World Series) quake was not as bad off as Detroit and Minneapolis is much safer and healthier than Baltimore. Having a radio diet of Rush (who gets much of his material… Read more »

Dr.+Mabuse
2 years ago

I used to be on the other side of the river, and it wasn’t quite the way the paleocons imagined. I had a constant subterranean current of Badthink as far as other races and cultures, but I was able, even willing, to suppress it. I first became aware of this after 9/11, when Bush was slowly heaving himself into the Iraq war. I listened to all the arguments in favor: “Fight them over there, so we won’t have to fight them over here”, “Flypaper strategy”, and finally planting Democracy in the Middle East, so it will spread and neutralize Islamic… Read more »

Larry+Darrell
Larry+Darrell
Reply to  Dr.+Mabuse
2 years ago

It is amazing how far people like Steyn, Coulter, Laura Ingraham, and Tucker Carlson have come. I think all of them supported Bush’s nation-building nonsense. Now they spend their time longing for the country as it was when they were children.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Larry+Darrell
2 years ago

I think back to 9/11, and the idea that we would march in to the Middle East and sort things out for them over there had a lot of appeal to me. I think part of it is that we saw that the 9/11 perpetrators were no dummies, exercised some creative thinking, but were obviously very misguided. We were going to sort out that misguidedness.

In hindsight, I was foolishly naive. Bush and Obama helped me find my way across the river. Both of them weaponized false thinking.

Pimpkin's Nephew
Pimpkin's Nephew
Reply to  Larry+Darrell
2 years ago

Victor Davis Hanson belongs on this list too. Call them “mid-streamers”; they are no longer neocons, and long for a “familiar-looking” America, yet remain in mid-stream, unwilling to plant their flags on the ‘race realist’ bank. They’d all confront massive pay-cuts by doing so; Vdare and AmRen don’t pay the kind of dough they’ve grown used to.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Dr.+Mabuse
2 years ago

The arguments against fighting endless wars in the Middle East (and elsewhere) are valid and rational in most respects, but there is one side effect that is somewhat redeeming. You can only be good at war if you practice it. Seasoned troops are an order of magnitude more valuable than green recruits. Military vets with combat experience are a valuable national asset and these hard men make us stronger as a nation.

calsdad
calsdad
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

Maybe. But seasoned troops are only useful if there is a war to be fought and you REALLY need them. The cost of having “seasoned troops” is a huge amount of waste and destruction. If you read the back history of the after effects of pretty much any war the US has fought since the Civil War (I’ve never really seen too much in print about the effects of the Revolution on the people who actually fought it) …… what you will find is a huge amount of broken men who are basically just forgotten about by society and quietly… Read more »

Thorsted
Thorsted
2 years ago

We see these differences within “counties” in Europe. I am half italian and on the surface Italy is a nation where all people are christians. But if one looks at family types in italy there is at least 3.types. The north and center of italy have a european family type that is exogamous with a civil society. The south has a middel eastern family type the historically has been endogamous and it gives a clannish mentality and a absent of a civil society reflected into the institutions -the culture of a “failed state”. In PISA tests south italy is also… Read more »

Epaminondas
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Reply to  Thorsted
2 years ago

Ironically, Christianity may end up both creating and destroying our civilization.

Thorsted
Thorsted
Reply to  Epaminondas
2 years ago

Agree. Paul Gottfried sees multiculturalism as a by product of from of a post modern christianity. I have not read his book but the english prof. Steven Hopgoods book “The Endtimes of Human Rights” that is identical in this analysis. He traces the roots of this thinking to modernity in the late 18-century were the “old God” died and a “new God” was needed. The calvinists in Europe came up with a “new God” in the victim and the “Red Cross” was the first child for post-modernity Christianity . Around the “Red Cross” american and european calvinists came up with… Read more »

Kodos
Kodos
2 years ago

When I was a lefty I was a pretty good blank slater, too. Maybe not 100%. I didn’t literally think of it in terms of the blank slate, but I know this: I used to mentally boo and hiss whenever EO Wilson or other “sociobiologists” or evolutionary psychologists were mentioned. Why did I do this? I “knew” that they were both wrong and evil. They were just looking for pseudo-scientific rationales for bigotry and greed. I “knew” this because most of my schooling had imparted this to me. Further as a smart, college-educated lefty I read all sorts of intellectual… Read more »

Teapartydoc
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Reply to  Kodos
2 years ago

I remember when E.O. Wilson got published. He was a hot thing in biology for less than a year when all the progressives had their “oh, shit” moment and ostracized him almost as badly as Murray.

Thorsted
Thorsted
Reply to  Teapartydoc
2 years ago

E.O Wilson was attacked but the evolutionary anthropologist; Robin Fox came out with a similar book slightly before Wilson and was attacked and still is for “racism”. Fox work was a reaction against the behaviourist BF.Skinner claim that all human behaviour was conditional and could be de-conditioned,- there was no “ghost in the box”-humans has no nature. But, “black slate” idea was attached prior to that. The german-jewish political realist, Hans Morgenthau came to the US and worked a the university of Chicago. There he found behaviourist that he regarded as utopian as the communist-as special american creed that claimed… Read more »

YIH
YIH
Reply to  Thorsted
2 years ago

Where did ”the blank slate” come from? http://www.vdare.com/articles/franz-boas-liberal-icon-scientific-fraud
And who was he? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Boas#Early_life_and_education
You guessed it, his name echoes.

William
William
2 years ago

I had a similar discussion with a Lefty friend some time ago. I mentioned that the rate of rape in Sweden had gone up 600% or something like that in recent years due to the refugee crisis and his response was to ask if the Swedes were raping the refugees. I’m not sure if he accepted the truth was otherwise, but for a long time I didn’t understand why anyone couldn’t see the causality in the situation. What’s even more interesting is that this same guy understands the correlation between race and IQ, at least in regards to Jews and… Read more »

Teapartydoc
Member
Reply to  William
2 years ago

Because that’s how he’s conditioned. It has nothing to do with him not being smart.

Some of the smartest people in history have been crazy or conditioned, and many of the smartest people around us now are, too.

We need to stop fetishising intelligence.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Teapartydoc
2 years ago

It’s worth recalling that smart is not a virtue. Courage is. Moderation, fairness, prudence; faith, hope, and charity (if you are Christian). But not smart.

The guys who first started thinking about our culture said the men who run it should be virtuous, not that they should be smart.

Issac
Issac
Reply to  BTP
2 years ago

One step too far I think. Or perhaps I’m a bit too jewy here. I believe smarts is necessary, but insufficient, for virtue. A true moron could have a heart of gold, but otherwise accomplish little for his people. He might even harm them before realizing his honest error. Granted, this is not nearly as bad as a brilliant and malevolent ruler, but I would never assign a null value to cultivating the intellect without expensing one’s moral character.

ifrank
ifrank
Reply to  BTP
2 years ago

if you don’t like smart, BTP, what about wise? wisdom, as aristotle said, is the greatest virtue. courage. when to stand and fight, when to flee? wisdom. moderation. when is enough enough? wisdom. what is virtue? wisdom. what is the good life? wisdom.

Pimpkin's Nephew
Pimpkin's Nephew
Reply to  BTP
2 years ago

When I was a kid we learned about Cincinnatus, the legendary farmer called upon to steer Rome through emergencies by assuming temporary dictatorial power. We also learned of Washington’s reputation as the Cincinnatus of the West. No one knows what IQ Cincinnatus had, but it’s fairly certain that GW wasn’t terrifically smart, hardly in the same league as Franklin, or Jefferson, or Hamilton, or Adams. Nor was he all that able a general, by Sandhurst or West Point standards of a later age. The Father of Our Country wasn’t reading Laplace’s ‘Celestial Mechanics’ for pleasure. Yet it was widely accepted… Read more »

ifrank
ifrank
Reply to  Pimpkin's Nephew
2 years ago

Whether you are smart or not, you can be right or wrong. Being smart just increases the odds. Being smart also means your execution plan is more likely to succeed.

ifrank
ifrank
Reply to  ifrank
2 years ago

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Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
Reply to  Teapartydoc
2 years ago

Unfortunately, the terms “intelligence” and “smart” can have completely different meanings, depending on who uses it. That’s why IQ is such a handy tool. Regardless of what it really measures, it is quantifiable and provides a baseline that supports the biological basis of human identity. This is also why Psychology is such a dismal science. With the exception of Behavioral Psychology, Neuropsychology, and Psychopharmacology, there is no science involved and no replicable results. And all three of these fields in Psychology lend themselves to misuse by the powers that be.

Din C. Nuffin
Din C. Nuffin
Reply to  Teapartydoc
2 years ago

TPD – Do you think ignorance is a better deal?

james+wilson
james+wilson
Reply to  Teapartydoc
2 years ago

Genius level intelligence begins at 145 more and less. It is essential for a limited, if impressive, number of things. Judgement is not one of them. Or courage, or general character. The sweet spot for chess grand masters is 135. Very high IQ is as likely to lead one into the weeds as it is the way out. Perhaps more? The acknowledged smartest people on earth are drawn to perfecting the most odious political arrangements in history.

Pimpkin's Nephew
Pimpkin's Nephew
Reply to  james+wilson
2 years ago

That late and quirky lefty, Alexander Cockburn, wrote an entertaining book on chess masters in 1974 called ‘Idle Passion: Chess and the Dance of Death’.

No sane Vulcan – much less human – would want any of these people anywhere near the reins of power, or even the reins of the local power plant.

We’re talking ‘issues’.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Teapartydoc
2 years ago

teapartydoc: “We need to stop fetishising intelligence.”
My extremely high IQ son tells folks he merely has an extremely capacious RAM and processing speed. That has nothing to do with wisdom, judgment, conscientiousness, diligence, etc.

Pimpkin's Nephew
Pimpkin's Nephew
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

Is it fair to say that IQ is a real measure of real capability, but that it isn’t a “value rating” as such for the individual?

Hubie Blake was blind and did not receive formal musical training, yet he emerged as one of the seminal jazz pianists of the 20th century. Could he solve differential equations in his head? I don’t know; I suspect he couldn’t. Did he know what a differential equation was? Possibly not.

But you have to admit there was something special in his wiring. But none dare call it genius.

tz1
Member
2 years ago

This is the new sorting. Churchill said if you were not a liberal when you were 20 you had not heart, but if you were not a conservative when you were 40 you had no head. The sorting is different. There are the civic nationalists, libertarians, and others who are Utopian in that they think they just need better or different kinds of arguments. You come to the river bank or shore when you realize the other person understood the argument, and accepted the air-tight logic, but rejected it anyway. That’s why Ron Paul brough people into the libertarian movement,… Read more »

Pimpkin's Nephew
Pimpkin's Nephew
Reply to  tz1
2 years ago

A long but rewarding comment. Thanks.

Terry+Baker
2 years ago

I agree with teapartydoc, they know. I’ve spent my life marinating in left-world. I’m convinced that the multicultural faith is precisely because they see the obvious truth but cannot bear the implications. What if it’s really true that the Somalians in Minnesota are not as smart or productive as the Norsemen? What if no amount of education will make a difference? Then what? I’m also convinced that length of growing season is the key to understanding and appreciating biological and cultural differences. And if so, how could we overcome such a vast and fundamental difference? If the American idea of… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Terry+Baker
2 years ago

Each subdivision of our species adapted optimally to the environment in which those ancestors lived. High intelligence was an environmental adaptation driven largely by extreme seasonality (what you called length of growing season). In contrast , black people’s primary adaption was via physical traits that worked well in sub Saharan Africa. There is no morality in this distinction, it’s just about what works best in any particular environment. Fish are adapted to live in water. Put them on land and they don’t do so well.

MarkStoval
MarkStoval
Reply to  Terry+Baker
2 years ago

“What if it’s really true that the Somalians in Minnesota are not as smart or productive as the Norsemen? What if no amount of education will make a difference?” I have taught math at all levels from 6th grade to senior Calculus. I have tutored senior engineering students at a major southern university in applied linear Algebra. Over the years, it became obvious that IQ was directly proportional to the student’s ability to do math successfully, and equally clear that educators must never mention this fact. You see, IQ is at least 75% genetic and some races will lag behind… Read more »

Yak-15
Yak-15
2 years ago

My favorite exercise to help others understand race realism is to use the example of Ashkenazi Jews. Despite being 1/600th of the world’s population and experiencing high levels of discrimination and even extermination, they make up 1/3 of the billionaires and have won about 1/4 of all Nobel Prizes. At the same time, the other sects of Judaism are not able to achieve similar levels of achievement. These Ash jews basically experienced every single thing, and more, that is used to excuse black/hispanic disfunction but still managed to succeed. It’s a great red pill and an excellent introduction to the… Read more »

PV+van+der+Byl
PV+van+der+Byl
Reply to  Yak-15
2 years ago

Agreed. Once someone accepts that some subset of the population is above the mean in terms of cognitive ability, it becomes impossible to deny that others are below the mean.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Yak-15
2 years ago

Yak 15 – The problem with this (using Ash Jews as an example of HBD) is the same as using Negro athleticism. These arguments are permitted even in respectable society because they are not necessarily seen as pejorative and, more importantly, the groups in question are already seen as distinct, different, victims, and not White Christians. Just read Sailer’s comment section (or Breitbart of old) and you’ll find many who accept these exceptions to equality but refuse to budge one step further. Jews in particular seem more than content to recognize Negro dysfunction but object vociferously to the belief that… Read more »

Matrix
Matrix
2 years ago

Wow the responses are fantastic! Two issues that are off limits in high schools, meritocracy and responsibility. This has caused the before mentioned problems by the previous posters. We may on the surface say we support the two, but in reality it’s just lip-service. When we do in some instances try to have some sort of standard, parents to the rescue! By the way, been coaching track for 30 years, did you know that sprinting, jumping was just a social construct?

Din C. Nuffin
Din C. Nuffin
Reply to  Matrix
2 years ago

Matrix – A high school football coach said his program was the only thing in the school teaching goal setting and working towards them. Sad.

Matrix
Matrix
Reply to  Din C. Nuffin
2 years ago

Yup, good point. Sports is the last place to make kids understand that not everyone is equal.

Wolf
Wolf
2 years ago

The four based black guys at CPAC and great guys like Sheriff David Clark are, in a way, an impediment to getting conservatives to the biological realist side of the river. To the NR crowd, they represent what all blacks can be if only they took responsibility and studied harder and worked harder.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Wolf
2 years ago

Yes. The proper response on seeing a woman who can deadlift 250# is to be amazed at the uncommon thing. It’s not to conclude every woman could do the same if only…

vlad
vlad
Reply to  Wolf
2 years ago

if they would read, instead of just disparaging ‘The Bell Curve,” they would completely understand Ben Carson, Alan West, and David Clark instead of being confused by them.

Zeroth Tollrants
Zeroth Tollrants
Reply to  vlad
2 years ago

Or, as Mike Enoch says, I’m sorry, but Thomas Sowell can’t be a neighbor to every single one of you leftists.

Glen Filthie
Glen Filthie
Member
2 years ago

I was one of those guys. And – I wasn’t ferried across the river by an intellectual gentleman. Nope – I was on the riverbank, with a pile of spent brass at my feet, the bolts of my machineguns locked back, with the monsters moving in – and I had just about had the bun. Think “Dunkirk” and that was my tactical situation. I didn’t want to leave. I wanted to stay. I wanted to change my world. As I made my way across the river, I felt like that guy on the chopper that was lifting off as his… Read more »

A.T. Tapman (Merica)
A.T. Tapman (Merica)
Member
Reply to  Glen Filthie
2 years ago

You can’t unsee the oliphant.

Brad
Brad
Reply to  Glen Filthie
2 years ago

GF – Aptly expressed. I mourn for many of my kin.

Tom
Tom
2 years ago

But even progs when making personal choices run away from diversity. They couch it in “good schools” or “crime ridden neighborhood”.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Tom
2 years ago

But then they’ll say they’d love to live next door to Oprah or Denzel Washington (“see, I’m not racist”) and Conservative Inc-types will do the same, preferring to live next door to Allan West or Thomas Sowell. (“It’s not about race, bigot!”) Yeah, it would be nice to be able to handpick your neighbors.

Pimpkin's Nephew
Pimpkin's Nephew
Reply to  Tom
2 years ago

Andy Warhol explained the phenomenon: Nothing is more bourgeois than trying to not seem bourgeois.

This to me explains the Left, at any rate the comfy white professional left, ensconced in safe places but planting all the right signs in their yards, wearing broad-brimmed hats or reversed French berets while walking their trendy pure-bred dogs around town.

I can smell libs the way Harry Reid could smell tourists. Middle class people who are determined to “not seem middle class”. Warhol was onto it…

If these people were Aztec bureaucrats, they’d believe in human sacrifice.

Member
2 years ago

A person living on a two-dimensional plane literally cannot conceive of “depth,” there’s not even a way to explain it to them (“it’s like length or width, except it’s up and down, and it helps things to not bump into each other …?”) Likewise, the dubious 4th-dimension of “time,” or those pesky string theories notwithstanding, we can’t conceive of anything beyond 3-D. We don’t even understand where it would “fit” in our spatial awareness. . There are so many vast worlds beyond our understanding, it’s no great leap to think the same biological coding that makes one soul a great… Read more »

Eclectic Esoteric
Eclectic Esoteric
Reply to  Jane_Dough
2 years ago

Imperfection is the engine of evolution.

Pimpkin's Nephew
Pimpkin's Nephew
Reply to  Eclectic Esoteric
2 years ago

Evolution is also the engine of imperfection; it starts with mutations, often disastrous.

David Wright
Member
2 years ago

As you said that fact a few times on Somali IQ being 69, do you think that might be in error? I have heard differently that it might be 70.

Dalrymple’s emasculated liars observation comes to mind. Someone of my wife’s acquaintance witnessed some theft at a local chain store. When the police came they kept questioning this manager about physical details. He was constantly hemming and hawing without being forthcoming when finally his black female employee yelled out in frustration “he was black for Gods sake”.
Sounds like the same training that most whites internalize.

YIH
YIH
Reply to  David Wright
2 years ago

https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country This list puts Somalia at an average of 68. http://aaidd.org/intellectual-disability/definition ”Intellectual functioning—also called intelligence—refers to general mental capacity, such as learning, reasoning, problem solving, and so on. One way to measure intellectual functioning is an IQ test. Generally, an IQ test score of around 70 or as high as 75 indicates a limitation in intellectual functioning.” 75? OK, that’ll work, on the list from the first link where does that dip below 75? Mali and Namibia tied for 32th at 74. Scroll down, what do nearly all those countries have in common? Note that the quote refers to ”mental… Read more »

David Wright
Member
Reply to  YIH
2 years ago

I was being sarcastic with the 70 iq statement. Obviously one point is nothing. Splitting hairs and all.

Pimpkin's Nephew
Pimpkin's Nephew
Reply to  David Wright
2 years ago

YIH is a strict numbers man. When I was a kid I had an argument with a math teacher; he said that Babe Ruth’s lifetime average was .340. I was ten and I corrected him; no, that was Lou Gehrig, said I; the Babe hit .342. This upset the teacher very much and he pulled rank on me and said I was wrong. I lugged my Macmillan Baseball Encyclopedia to school the following day and showed him the numbers. I was right. He still pulled rank: What difference does it make? Scorekeepers got things wrong occasionally, and “who knows?” if… Read more »

Zeroth Tollrants
Zeroth Tollrants
Reply to  YIH
2 years ago

Up until the late 80s-early 90s, an IQ of 85 was considered fundamentally retarded in regards to the justice system and how punishment was doled out. When it became apparent that most black criminals had IQs of 85 & under, this presented the libs with a quandary. This is when they lowered the threshold to 80, and added in even more muddled voodoo of learning disabilities and lack of parental interaction, no books in the home, blah, blah, blah. It is generally accepted that a country’s mean IQ must be at least 90 to successfully sustain a democracy. I am… Read more »

ifrank
ifrank
2 years ago

the average joe schmo knows. your grandmother knew the score. her mother knew too. but we have been so indoctrinated to think that it’s impolite, that we are afraid to say what everyone already knows to be true.

Scooby Dieu
Scooby Dieu
2 years ago

“They are now true believers in the blank slate, so whole swaths of knowledge are no longer available to them.”

It’s like watching someone sleepwalk through a room. Where they see a treasure chest, I see a table. Where they see a unicorn, I see a trashcan. Where they see Hitler, I see a coatrack.

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Scooby Dieu
2 years ago

What’s the old truism?
” A conservative believes what he sees, a liberal sees what he believes”

Member
2 years ago

It’s a distinction that doesn’t matter, but they know . Guess who ferried me across the River? Richard Dawkins and Stephen Pinker, two impeccably credentialed leftists who haven’t been chased out of the public sphere. At least not completely. I’m sure you’re aware of Pinker’s book “The Blank Slate.” It tears up modern leftism by the roots. Sure he throws in some gratuitous slurs against those Christian rubes and cover it with opening and closing ideological boilerplate, but it’s all there. They, know but they 1) don’t have the energy to fight the “studies” mob and 2) they fall back… Read more »

bilejones
Member
2 years ago

The whole thing has been summed up in 4 words by the great realist philosopher Ron White: “You can’t fix Stupid”.

To Liberals, of course, you can, because Stupid, like Race is merely a social construct.

Saml Adams
Saml Adams
Reply to  bilejones
2 years ago

“Let me tell you what I’m looking for in a tree….”

Rubber Faced Wakandan
Rubber Faced Wakandan
2 years ago

There’s a story called “Flatland” which is about mathematics, but it has a character who lives in 2D land, and when a sphere crosses through his plane, it starts as a dot becomes a growing circle then a shrinking circle then a dot then disappears.

He cannot comprehend a sphere.

Pimpkin's Nephew
Pimpkin's Nephew
Reply to  Rubber Faced Wakandan
2 years ago

Flatland also includes an examination of the 1-d world, where your position on the line dooms you to only have two neighbors. Flatlanders quite understandably despise this primitive world and its occupants.

Rosie_73
Member
2 years ago

My journey to the “dissident right” or “alt right” started when I watched John Derbyshire destroy Jay Nordlinger in The Corner on the subject of Mexican immigration. The Kevin Williamson article telling all working class whites to die, put that journey into warp drive.

WanWeiLin
WanWeiLin
2 years ago

Sounds like a significant portion of ‘conservatives’ found a boat back to the other side of the river. More likely they swam back.

Shrugger
Shrugger
2 years ago

I’ve had the nature vs nurture debate on black intelligence with lefty progressives. After teachers/schools, the next argument you hear is nutrition. The reason Mohammed Somali can’t read is he didn’t get enough good food as an infant. Or his pregnant mother had nothing good to eat.

Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  Shrugger
2 years ago

Back in the old days, it was leaded gasoline and paint chips.

Zeroth Tollrants
Zeroth Tollrants
Reply to  Lorenzo
2 years ago

A Millennial Brit used the paint chip argument just this week, in a YouTube debate. He tried to argue that blacks in Chicago, Detroit, Alabama, Somalia, Eritrea, and Chad all were currently, or had previously at some point, lived in homes w/lead painted walls and ALL black children are inexplicably drawn to eating these chips and cannot be stopped from doing so. Despite the fact that lead paint hasn’t been used for decades, and certainly not in homes built in the last couple of decades and certainly not in mud huts or houses made from sheets of tin, the type… Read more »

LFMayor
LFMayor
Reply to  Shrugger
2 years ago

So long as the individual is removed from responsibility the FemiProgs bucket will carry all the water needed.

TomA
TomA
2 years ago

One way to remain safely ensconced in an ignorance bubble is to shun all opportunities for discussion or debate with those of differing beliefs. The best indicator of a true believer is someone with fingers in their ears shouting . . . nah nah nah I can’t hear you! And these prima donna preachers who will not engage are really just selling a scam rather than pursuing a truth. That they still have a following is a surrogate measure of the extent to which our society is diseased.

Pimpkin's Nephew
Pimpkin's Nephew
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

“These prima donna preachers who will not engage are really just selling a scam rather than pursuing a truth. That they still have a following is a surrogate measure of the extent to which our society is diseased.” How true; nor am I thinking about the pure grifters such as Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan, Tim Wise, the SPLC, and all the rest of the “left-wing” scammers who have piled up millions. Just now I’m looking at the celebrities affiliated with “our team” – Rush Limbaugh and so on; you know the crowd. Bring up “race realism” with Limbaugh,… Read more »

Din C. Nuffin
Din C. Nuffin
Reply to  Pimpkin's Nephew
2 years ago

I was listening to NPR in 1980, after Reagan was elected, but before he took office. They were already calling his economic policies a failure. They usually interviewed the head of the USA socialists party on economic issues. I was also listening to their alligator tears when Newt was pulling their funding in 1994.

Eclectic Esoteric
Eclectic Esoteric
2 years ago

Progressive conservatives aren’t willing to hit back hard enough to make everything they complain about stop.

3g4me
3g4me
2 years ago

I like your analogy, Zman. I’ve used a similar one re religious faith, based on a minor “magical” ability as described in Patricia McKillip’s “The Riddlemaster of Hed” trilogy. It involves taking a small puddle of water and making it appear to be an enormous lake, or a twisted thread seem a maze-like path, or a small pile of twigs an impenetrable hedge of brambles. Once the individual is on the other side and finally looks back and sees the tiny reality, they are amazed and exhausted, but far wiser to future tricks. The same affect is apparent here –… Read more »

Tim
Tim
Member
2 years ago

Just read an article by Sam Francis, that I believe was recommended by a commenter here. I was stunned at how prescient it was. Written in 1993, it succinctly lays out the problem of left cultural hegemony, and proposes a solution. Well worth reading.
https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/winning-the-culture-war/

Patrice Stanton
2 years ago

“…the science-fiction concepts at the heart of the story eventually become sand in the gears of WHATEVER social message the filmmakers intended.”

Like you said, he is STILL asleep if he can claim to have missed the “social message.” (That’s where I stopped reading it.)

Member
2 years ago

I’d not think overmuch about that low-IQ for Somalis until they’ve had some stability of food and family for at least a generation. Amazingly, many ethnic groups SEEM to be dullards, until a consistent food supply and stable family structure allow their inherent genetics to come to the surface. Until then, we’re looking at the effects of war and famine, and family separation. They might still score low, but, I’m willing to withhold judgement.

A.B. Prosper
A.B. Prosper
Reply to  LindaF
2 years ago

Even if they get over the malnourished bubble , we don’t need African Muslims in the West for any purpose

Truth is if we sent home nearly every immigrant and their offspring since 1968, we still wouldn’t need anyone from anywhere including Europe

250 million is plenty enough

MyShari'aMoor
Reply to  A.B. Prosper
2 years ago

I remember as a pre-teen in ’67 when the USA hit 200 million!
That would be an AWE-inspiring number to regain, minus all of the post-’65 DIVERSIONS!

Zeroth Tollrants
Zeroth Tollrants
Reply to  LindaF
2 years ago

Those “testings” have already been done, my friend, and the “magic dirt” and “magic Big Macs,” only get you a few more IQ pts. At best, you’re looking at 5-7, which puts you around 75, if you’re lucky. What country in their right mind imports people whose IQs are below the level of what we legally deem fundamentally retarded, AFTER we’ve spent our valuable resources educating, housing, and feeding them, AND will have to more than likely continue paying for their existence, plus any family they have? Oh, and don’t forget, they belong to the most backward and violent religious… Read more »

Malicious Moniker
Malicious Moniker
2 years ago

“…he is the sort of dullard who brings shame upon the dullard community.”
I’ve recently seen a Shakespearean Insults poster, and this belongs on it. Glorious!

Member
2 years ago

Geraghty has a kind of throw away comment about how **of course** there is nothing inherently wrong with Africans but he never takes the next step and asks why it is that Africans are seemingly incapable of forming functional societies or maintaining the functional societies left to them by Whites (Rhodesia, South Africa, etc.). The refusal to engage in the dangerous conversations that might get them some bad press has driven a lot of once regular readers, like me, away for good. Many of us were forced by National Review some years ago to choose between NRO and their blacklisted… Read more »