Lessons of the Fields Trial

James Fields, the person who drove his car into a crowd of left-wing rioters in Charlottesville, during the Unite the Right rally two summers ago, was convicted of all counts last week. The top count was first degree murder, which means the jury agreed with the state that he drove into the crowd intending to harm people. Technically, he could get the death penalty, but the guidelines recommend life without parole. The jury will make a recommendation this week and the judge will formally sentence him in the next month.

Everyone with an interest in the case has made their position clear. The Left, of course, loves the sight of blood, so they are thrilled with the result. The alt-right people, who followed the case, are obviously disgusted at the show trial and result. They are correct that this whole thing was a mockery of justice. While reasonable people can disagree about his culpability, sending him away for life is a vulgar act of vengeance. Regardless, it is an event that should provide some very clear lessons for the dissident right.

For starters, right-wing movements in America have always made the mistake of assuming the Left is amenable to humanitarian appeals. This case makes clear that to be on the Left is to have abandoned any shred of mercy or compassion. The kid should not have been there and he certainly got mixed up with some bad people. Order requires he pay some penalty for what he did, but sending this young man to jail for life is vicious and cruel. There is no mercy on the Left. There never will be.

Another lesson, is that we no longer live in a land of laws. What has gone on in Virginia since that rally is an abomination. This is just the most recent act of lawlessness. Over the last year or so, other men have been sent away for hard time over trivial things, simply because they are white and hold the wrong opinions. Meanwhile, the blacks involved were handed checks and allowed to promote themselves off their crimes. For white people, there is no justice in the court system, so make sure you stay out of it.

Of course, this rally did not spring from nothing. The organizers who put it together and promoted it have some culpability here. The thing that leaders must always accept is they are responsible for their people. That’s part of leadership. When you lead your men into a fight, they expect that you are not leading them into a trap or into certain death. Leadership requires a sense of duty to those you are leading. The people who put this together failed in that regard and they should be judged accordingly.

That said, most involved were new to activism and can be forgiven for getting caught up in the spirit of the times. Mike Enoch, who has done everything he can to support the men being persecuted, has clearly learned a hard lesson from this. He is a guy who deserves credit for not only learning from the event, but accepting some responsibility for blundering into a trap. Not everyone involved has covered themselves in glory, though, and that’s a good lesson moving forward. Leadership is not just about being cheeky on YouTube.

That last point is salient, because that is another lesson of this affair. In fact, the best way to think about Charlottesville now is in the fuller context of the pogrom launched against dissidents this past year. The normal way of resolving disputes in a civil society are no longer available. The people in charge are slowly swinging the authoritarian door closed on us. They are corrupting every aspect of civil life in order to prevent any challenge to their authority. These show trials are just one aspect of their greater war on us.

There is no civil way forward and that means thinking different. The people who rule over us, whether you wish to use archaic terms like Marxist or socialist, or you like neologisms like cosmopolitan globalists, they do not see themselves as bound by the letter of the law, because  they see themselves as the spirit of the law. Tim Cook is not ready to declare himself a god, but he has declared himself the high priest of the new faith of the ruling class. There’s no mercy in the righteous and no reasoning with a fanatic.

Finally, the deafening silence from the people claiming to be in opposition to this growing tyranny, people like Ben Shapiro, is important. A lot of people on the dissident right think these anachronisms from a bygone age will wake up and begin to agitate on our behalf, but that will never happen. As has been explained many times, their real role is as defenders of the system. It’s why they hate Tucker Carlson so much. he actually talks about some of these things, thus exposing the perfidy of the Ben Shapiros of the world.

Whatever comes next next is not going to happen within the old system. It is too corrupt and too compromised. That’s the great lesson of the last year. In a lawless age, one has to let go of the law in order to avoid the law. A great Chinese curse is “May the authorities become aware of you.” For our age, the opposite is true. Never let the authorities become aware of you. If the current slide into darkness is to be arrested, it will happen because what comes out of the shadows is strong enough to stop it.

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Dirtnapninja
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There were many former military people who helped plan charlottesville. it amazes me that they did not perceive a trap. 1) They were planning an advance into an enemy stronghold. 2) They knew they would be outnumbered. 3) they were inexperienced. 4) They knew the local authorities were unfriendly 5) They did not properly recon the territory. These people were unaware that the local university has a berkeleyesque reputation. 6) The announced their event well in advance, allowing the enemy time to plan and prepare. If you advance with inferior strength into unknown territory full of fortified enemies you will… Read more »

Chaotic Neutral
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Yes, but they were not planning a military engagement. They were planning a peaceful protest of the removal of civil war monuments. What occurred was a completely unprecedented violence from counter protestors and that the government apparatus showed extreme bias in its enforcement of the law. I think no average person could have anticipated what was going to happen. That’s why I think Charlottesville was useful. You have to interact with a system in order to get data about it.

pyrrhus
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pyrrhus

The demonstrators had a court order, Antifa was let loose by the politicians and State Police, may they burn in hell, to disrupt things unlawfully. Prosecutors, same….know your enemy.

Donk
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Donk

CN, as they say on ESPN, come on man!!! They did a torchlit 1926 Nuremburg march the night before. Nothing wrong with that as the optics were outstanding – caused the whole of C Ville to go into coffee klatch vaklemptness. But to think that VSP and the lefitist PTB would let that go….again, anyone who had a mental retard’s undertanding of C Ville would have handled after march festivities much, much, much different. Look, I am from there, 250 years family tree from there. It is not Mississippi or Alabama or South Carolina or Georgia – its Virginia, there… Read more »

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UtR leadership made the assumption that the authorities would play by the rules, follow the law, not lie to them while they planned the event, protect the free speech liberties of all, all that jazz. For much of America’s history, those would have been reasonable assumptions. Charlottesville disabused us of any notion of respect for rule of law on the part of the left and the authorities. As with any lesson worth learning, it did not come cheap. Making jibes at leaders and organizers for assuming yesterday’s rules still apply today is cheap after the fact criticism. Fact is, they… Read more »

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An excellent post, roo_ster.

While you and I may not have arrived here on the same boat, the fact is, we are here, and we should applaud those who got into the ring and we should never offer any of them up to the enemy, even the likes of Christopher Cantwell.

Vegetius
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Vegetius

Please correct me if this is wrong, but the Unite people had a permit to protest in the daytime, around the Lee monument.

What they did not have was a permit to do that torchlight deal on the UVA campus at night. Despite to the cool optics, this struck me as precisely the sort of “bad faith” gesure our side constantly accuses the Enemy of. And I can think of few things that would make the local PD even less-willing to abide by any pre-event coordination than that.

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Are you contending that it is an act of bad faith to peaceably assemble without a permission slip?

Vegetius
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Vegetius

After spending a lot of time coordinating with local officials, then to turn around and do something like that, yes. That’s the definition of bad faith.

Does that mean they deserved what happened? Of course not.

RonJon
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RonJon

Ah, so by that logic the LEOs should allow a mob to set upon you, beat you to a pulp, cuz you let the parking meter run long?

Walter MItty
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Walter MItty

When you believe, rightly in my opinion, that members of Law Enforcement will uphold there oaths of office and they violate them in the most egregious manner, I cannot say the blame lay so much on the planners.
The question going forward is what can we as White Nationalist and
Southern White Nationalist do in the way of non violent activism that won’t get us put in jail? Besides waking up in the last two or three years I have done nothing but type on a key board.

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Judge_Smails

I actually had this thought as a kid growing up in the 70’s ” I am glad that I don’t live in the Soviet Union or East Germany where the government tracks your every move and you can be snatched off the street and disappear forever”. Now 40 years later, it looks like my golden years are going to be spent living under a similar repressive regime.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

The Stasi could only dream of the world that we live in. They were severely hampered by technology. Recording phone calls and having an agent listen to hours of tape hoping to find something. Relying on neighbors – though, admittedly, Germans are the noisiest people on the planet so that was likely fairly effective. It was incredibly cumbersome. Today, software can search for bad words and phrases. A slip-up in nowhere Wisconsin can quickly be relayed to the proper agents in SV who can sick their media hounds on this poor guy, destroying his life over the course of a… Read more »

Drake
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Drake

I forgot if it was the Stasi or the Romanian Secret Police I was reading about – but at one point they only had the capability to tap 7 phones at a time in the whole country. Now we have every phone and computer in a far bigger country tapped and monitored.

Hoagie
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Hoagie

I assume if they don’t like your politics you can kiss your Social Security and Medicare good-bye. And you will be at there mercy once they implement their much loved single payer health care.

Saml Adams
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Saml Adams

While back had a dinner table conversation with one of the IBM Watson guys that architected one of their cancer treatment tests with MD Anderson. Asked how easy it would be to add other factors like age and “social utility” into the AI. His reply, “pretty easy”. You won’t be “denied” anything…what you get won’t be was a “higher value” person gets.

A.B. Prosper
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And that goes on until you get John Q. every day all the time and surgeons and doctors don’t want to treat anyone other than a few elite if any remain. Civil wars get that nasty Of course the reason we are here is the Right is like a permissive parent. They want to be the nice guy when in reality at best we need to be locking up our foes for life, no appeal or maybe going full Vlad Tepes on them. This is a flaw with Conservatism in general though A Liberal will gladly have the State extinguish… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

The Shapiros will demand cost-cutting of targeted entitlements so the military can keep defending our freedoms.

Yes, I said *targeted* entitlements. We have all these new Praetorian-Americans to pay for.

Maxm
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Maxm

If our military was defending our freedoms they would be down on the Mexican border shooting illegals as they cross. Instead they are six thousand miles away protecting Israel from its enemies.

Dale Peterson
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Dale Peterson

Don’t blame the Mexicans.
Blame those on this side of the border that enable this crap.

Swrichmond
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Swrichmond

“it looks like my golden years are going to be spent living under a similar repressive regime.’

Get your golden ass in shape. Think about how you’re going to fight back. Did you think you were going to have a fun and comfortable retirement?

the Russians
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“fun and comfortable” is an entitlement according to ms Cortez et al…another day, another absurdity.

rented mule
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rented mule

Crystal clear about Charlottesville, San Francisco,
Portland, NY city etc… jurys in Idaho, Wyoming, or Montana would very likely have found Fields not guilty. This whole thing makes me sick. these young men are political prisoners, they will not be the last. This is not going to end without rivers of blood. brother against brother, so be it.

Dale Peterson
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Dale Peterson

There will be an appeal and hopefully Murder One will be thrown out.

Glenfilthie
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Glenfilthie

They have to clamp down now. The leftist dominated institutions are collapsing. The mass media can’t sell a newspaper, much less a narrative. The universities are pumping out brainless leftist morons like sausages and have become intellectual wastelands. The courts are infested with them and we can just flush the judiciary. The wheels are coming off, the house is on fire and we are all going to burn. The internet is the wild card in determining who wins in the days ahead. Sure, we know exactly what they are doing despite their best attempts to hide it… but they know… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

Purges? Perhaps, but how to implement. There are literally millions to purge and so few resources to do so. I suspect another plan initially to reduce the numbers to a manageable level.

Bartleby the Scrivener
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Bartleby the Scrivener

Well said. The Chicago Police Department can’t even handle a few dozen wilding “yewfs” on the Gold Coast. They herd them into the train stations. Unless there is a magical army of federal agents in orbit, no one is getting rounded up if they don’t want to.

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212-34-0000

Perhaps they might start putting more of their monsanto/FDA approved chemicals in the food supply/water/air, much more than they have now. In many areas across the country courts are already purging lots of people who have a lot of assets/$$$ or for their American political views… taking people off the streets and force medicating them…they basically have a monopoly on most of if not all of the main stream informaton….we are only told what we are allowed to know about from the corporate conglomerate “fake news” we NEVER hear about most of the things the courts from local to federal… Read more »

King Tut
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King Tut

The show trial is a message, as are all show trials. The message is loud and clear. Badwhites will no longer be afforded the protection of the law in any circumstances. Acquiesce quietly while we eliminate you. This is the norm now, not the exception.

A.B. Prosper
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This is not entirely a bad thing on its face. Trust in the system and “its not time” are among the biggest impediments to getting things fixed As Claire Wolf put it America is at that awkward stage; it’s too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. This kind of thing meas it rapidly is becoming THE TIME As an aside, divisions aside I think the biggest fear the Actual Right has is winning, They don’t want to take responsibility especially if it ends up with one of those burn everything , kill three… Read more »

King Tut
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A.B. Prosper, all good questions. My own take is clearing out the Augean mess of the schools/university system will solve a lot of the other problems automatically. By the by, I didn’t know who this James Fields guy was but, prompted by zman’s article, I did some reading about him and his case. Occurs to me that the Enemy Class have overplayed their hand here. If they had convicted the guy of, say, negligent manslaughter, there probably wouldn’t be a lot of room to argue. However, as it stands, he could end up on the death row and that could… Read more »

riverrider
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he got life plus 419 years. i’ve seen such sentences thrown out as excessive but they were of the non-white variety. the media colluded to poison the jury pool, showing the victim’s angelic teenage photo exclusively, hiding disgusting video of “her” on that day and repeating the “was killed” mantra even as the coroner ruled heart attack. they do have an excellent appeal though on the refusal of change of venue motion. no way after a year of propaganda would there be a fair jury.

WhistleHammer
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The coroner did not rule “heart attack”. The coroner ruled “complete transection of the thoracic aorta” secondary to blunt trauma.
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/richmond.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/52/452e3703-c19c-5f4c-9bea-2e2bd0db8883/5c0863779981a.pdf.pdf

A.B. Prosper
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A.B. Prosper

The Left has no consistency While some Liberals are decent moral people you can’t make that appeal with the Left. They don’t have a real ethical foundation or think rules apply to them . The ends always justify the means. As for universities/schools in general , my take would be to restore en loco parentis and treat anyone promulgating certain values to anyone under 21 as a child rapist under law, 5 years and a life ban on teaching and to prohibit requiring seditious values for graduation After 21 not my problem if you want to sit around studying Cultural… Read more »

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Like you, I tried to do some research. And while I find the verdicts to be excessive, I’m offended that the rest of us have been put in the position of defending a dull-witted chap who is responsible for a pretty ugly and dangerous crime. I can’t exactly share Zman’s and other’s sentiments about this as some kind of bellwether of societal injustice and a turning point for an honorable society. Irregardless of Field’s real motivations, he placed his fate in the hands of his dangerous opponents at an incredibly ill-advised protest and under the not-so-watchful eyes of duplicitous authorities…when… Read more »

rented mule
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rented mule

Why would you ask if reds and porn producers will be “taken care of”

A.B. Prosper
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A.B. Prosper

I actually asked if anyone thought about it. Its hypothetical since as far as I know there is no one on the Right yet interested much less able to get power and no one here is encouraged to act in an illegal manner. I asked that because a sizable section of the Dissident Right is Libertarian and doesn’t believe in having or using authority and while I’d expect Reds to not have a place in society or any political power at least I’m not as sure about the rest of the degeneration express As of right now, its about prepping… Read more »

TomA
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TomA

The current paradigm being employed to oppose incipient tyranny here in the US is simply the wrong strategy. It plays into the government’s strengths and sets up the patriots for failure. The totalitarians own the justice system and LEOs. They spy on everything and everyone. The infiltrate opposition organizations. Rallying into groups make that job even easier. It is literally stupid to paint a target on your back and walk into their traps. Don’t do it. There are very effective ways to beat them, but they do not include pitching a fit in public.

Issac
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Issac

Both “rally into groups,” and “don’t ever rally into groups,” are the sort of bad advice you get from people who are ambivalent at-best about a conflict. Atomized individual fetishism is an old habit that will die with current older middle aged whites.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Ambivalent is the word!
I think, “is it really so bad?”- but then I see a subway video from Britain. Or remember 5 apes at the airport barking at an ancient grandmother in a wheelchair. My rage and shame at my own cowardice sickens me.

Too chickenshit to start cracking skulls, but f*ckinay I want to.

Wish to sh*t I had something useful to contribute. Something…practical. With real results.

A.B. Prosper
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A.B. Prosper

We all feel his way. Its just rare for people to admit it. Its also how these things start. Too much humiliation often starts revolutions. Its still not time though and that guy in Charlottesville is not Crispius Attucks or Horst Wessel for that matter. We still have time to prepare to have skills and lay aside gear We can get the skills and more importantly attitude to matter. And if we are old when it kicks off there still many ways to help> Hell if we are dying there are ways to spend that life too. So get hard,… Read more »

Wilson McWilliams
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Wilson McWilliams

I suggest persistent (nay, never-ending), low-key, non-violent action against the IRS… or any other three-letter agency you love to hate.

FWIW “non-violent” certainly includes actions which are actually legal, though disruptive.

Complexity is not their friend.

P.S. Wear gloves. And don’t lick any stamps.

Drake
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Drake

I didn’t follow the trial at all and the media seems to have ignored it. Did they even give that poor sap a real lawyer – or just a patsy to argue in the sentencing phase?

Did his lawyer call witnesses? Like the guy who bragged about chasing him with a rifle just before the crash?
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/armed-antifa-professor-admits-chasing-charlottesville-driver-rifle-deadly-crash/

Old cracker
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Old cracker

The idea this kid could even begin to get a fair trial in C’ville is ludicrous. Why was a change of venue not granted, especially in light of the local publicity the event received? Seating an impartial jury seems laughable. This has been an undeniable miscarriage of Justice but, as Z man points out, this is the new norm.

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I read he had some hapless public defender. Sad that with all the brainpower available on the dissident right, not one decent lawyer stepped up to help him wage a real defense.

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Put aside childish notions. We are no longer in the nursery. To oppose naked tyranny will require blunt force. Anyone trying to sell you on “reasoned arguments made through our democratic system” is selling you snake oil.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

There is no doubt the system openly hostile to whites and corrupt as can be. Worse there is no peaceful fix for it. Well in theory there is but not in practice. However we cannot oppose it with force. It is a non-starter. Eventually the system will crash on it’s own accord and only then we can move not before. This is strategty 101. Don’t play to your opponents strength. In the meantime we need to get as healthy as possible; learn to be self-sufficient as possible; acquire food and medicine; move to non-urban areas; learn basics of self-defense and… Read more »

Drake
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Drake

I agree that the corruption is too deep to ever root out without a purge and start-over. They don’t even try to hide it. Mueller indicts anyone who supports Trump while granting immunity to Clintonistas like himself. He granted Tony fucking Podesta immunity! Imran Awan got a slap on the wrist for using his friendship with DWS to spy on Congress. A Clinton Whistleblower got his house raided by the FBI last week – all coincidences we are supposed to believe. It’s obvious and in your face now. Saying otherwise is the kind of forced lying / humiliation that Derbyshire… Read more »

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“For white people, there is no justice in the court system, so make sure you stay out of it. ”

Wiser words have never been spoken.

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No father in this guys life and not much future for him and many like him.
Cannon fodder for these evil progressives and their enablers. Guide your sons well people and take Z’s advice here.

They keep telling us how much they hate us and here is the message hammered home. What else do we need.

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And complete silence from “conservatives”.

A.B. Prosper
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A.B. Prosper

That’s because conservatives are on the same team and the few that aren’t are without any real ideology other than let the Left and global corporations ass rape America to death so long as they get a cut

I hugely prefer the Left to these people, as the Left might believe stupid things at least they have an ideology

Paraphrasing The Big Lebowski Say what you want about socialism, at least its an ethos

RonJon
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RonJon

Find me one. ONE “conservative” male talker that is not a total effing girly man. One. ONE that doesn’t get manicures. One. ONE that changes his own oil, gets his hands dirty. And does not hang out in the green room with the same leftist talkers milking the Fall of the United States.

Wilson McWilliams
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Wilson McWilliams

In his day, George Will was pretty macho.

midlandia
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midlandia

That’s the biggest problem. Cons/trads with power just sat and watched as several elections were stolen from us right in front of our eyes. The GOP gov should have fired Sykes first time she pulled this. I hear he said he was afraid of race riots. Well, he and his party almost got paid back bad by her. And now she’s fighting her suspension? Somebody in office needs to hammer these people.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

Conservatives are nothing but another name for Republicans. And Republicans hate the white blue collar and middle-class. Who you think came up with NAFTA, WTO, GATT, Republicans/conservatives.

They worked night and day since daddy Bush to a**rape the country and off-shore industry. Cheered on by talk radio shills like Praeger, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc.

Conservatives want whites to die off as much as the Left does. They hate us and they are the enemy as much as the Left is. Just think of them as two separate butt cheeks that surround the same u-know what.

Issac
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Issac

What you need are older men with enough ballsack to not accept this sort of judicial nihilism. Failing that, you need Maoism to put the cucks in labor camps where they can learn solidarity.

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Matt Bracken

The USA is going to continue to fly apart like an out-of-control engine. Which part breaks first won’t matter, the engine is shaking to pieces. There is a dynamic at work similar to the process in Former Yugoslavia during the rise of Milosevic, that is, leaders on the left and right will find more short-term success in appealing to their radicals than to the middle. This will accelerate the disintegration process. The precise shape of the coming civil war is unknown, but it’s coming. Some type of “dirty civil war” similar to Argentina in the 1970s is likely at a… Read more »

Matrix
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Matrix

I agree. Civilizations can never course correct, they have to crater. Out of that comes something different, not always for the better. The Roman empire is a oft cited example. It’s like a horrible dream that you know is a dream, but can do nothing about. The forces are now unleashed for the fall of western civilization, and in my opinion the locomotive can’t be stopped. California, the mass migration UN pact, the Somali invasion in my own state, all so depressing!

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But once this process begins, there will be nothing to stop determined communities of hard men from eliminating the degenerates within their midst. It has happened before.

Tykebomb
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Tykebomb

Charlottesville was a baptism by fire. It showed us that we really were a dissident movement and would be treated as such. The alt-right learned something important. If you cant be co-opted, like the TEA party, you will be crushed.

Nathan
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Nathan

Anyone who doesn’t bend the knee will be crushed. Whites are the only group with the (potential) will and the ability to challenge Shlomo’s iron grip. Blacks? Meh. They can riot all they want. In the end they can always be brought to heel. All the other ethnic groups are too small or uninterested in revolutionary change. Ergo, Whites who haven’t bought into GloboGayplex must be crushed. The system doesn’t care about who can’t figure out what bathroom to use on any given day, or who wants to drug himself into oblivion. It likes movements like those because they can… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

Nathan, it really is a perversion of human nature. We supposedly have agency over our genes (all the genders), and collectively over the climate by our living in caves, but not over things like self protection, association, speech, and thought. Those perversions have a way of righting themselves, but it ain’t going to be pretty.

Larry
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Larry

Yesterday marked 30 days since I moved from Charlottesville to a quiet farming community some 40 miles south. My only regret is that I didn’t move sooner. The entire city is overcome with a sense of guilt that is palpable the moment you step out the door. The burden of accepting diversity and tolerance has frayed the nerves of everyone to such a degree that it is impossible to drive 5 minutes in any direction within the city without witnessing an incident of road rage. From the balcony of my 4th floor apartment I could see the front lawn of… Read more »

ExPraliteMonk
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ExPraliteMonk

Charlottesville was the prettiest town I’ve visited east of the Rockies.

Mcleod
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Mcleod

The Ancien Régime of the United States is dead, has been dead. What will follow? History tells us that it’s gonna be a strong man. The populace is armed to the teeth, the federal government is bankrupt, and Robespierre is rabble rousing in the cities. I have a little farm in the middle of nowhere that I can run to. Hope I can ride it out.

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We haven’t had our middle class revolution yet. Just rumblings. The French Revolution devolved into terror because the right wanted to have a war that they thought would cement their gains in the early revolution. All we need to do is stay out of war if we get in charge. In other words, don’t be a Girondin.

ReluctantReactionary
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A simple point that gets lost in all of the 2nd amendment blather is that the concept of self defense is under attack. Fields panicked when he was attacked by a mob. His car effectively became a weapon. George Zimmerman killed when he was attacked by Travon Martin. The police officer in the Mike Brown/Ferguson fiasco was also under attack when he fired a fatal shot. There have been many other tragic deaths in the intervening time period between these incidents, but only the ones where self defense is a part of the scenario are blown up into media circuses.… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

The assault on the 2A is only partly about guns. The 2A acknowledges your right to protect yourself and your own by any means necessary. Stripping the 2A is about stripping you of your right and your means to protect yourself however you see fit. The other rights will quickly fall in due course. “Rights? You have no stinking rights”. Plan accordingly.

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All this happens while the Republicans hold the Executive, Senate and even the House at the time. Plus Trump has the Justice department. How bad do you think the future will be for our kind? By now, everyone has received the message, right?

Kevin Balch
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Republicans? Trump? Those are good ones!

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And Trump is cucking out as hard as he can, trying to twist McConnell’s arm to get him to pass the “let all the drug dealers and other minority criminals out of prison” bill being pushed by Rand Paul and the other libertardian wannabes before the end of the legislative session. Trump’s decided he can buy some black votes in 2020 by letting their baby daddys out of jail. He’ll compromise with the Dems next year on gun control next.

House of Pancakes
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House of Pancakes

Are there any lawyers hanging around here who can explain this absurd outcome? I’m not a lawyer and I didn’t follow the case closely, but even a layman like me, watching lazily and from a vast distance, could spot mountains of exculpatory evidence. From what I could gather, based only on viewing the thing as a fairly simple chess position, it should have been a mighty struggle even to get a guilty verdict on something as mild as reckless endangerment. Presumably, touchy cases like this usually come down to crafty jury selection. A single non-NPC juror could have easily hung… Read more »

c matt
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c matt

Each state has its own procedural rules, so it may be different. But generally, a “no evidence” or “insufficient evidence” point could be raised on appeal to reverse the conviction. Those are generally high mountains to climb. I did not follow the case, so do not know what was/was not entered into evidence. Ineffective assistance of counsel is another potential point, but short of showing up blind drunk every day, those usually do not fly. Doesn’t matter how credible evidence is – credibility is completely up to the jury. If there is anything, they can pretty much do what they… Read more »

House of Pancakes
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House of Pancakes

Thanks for those insights, c matt. Still, I’m looking at this using chess logic, not actual courtroom know-how. All the same… Granted, procedures vary from state to state. But in my state, a standard, binding jury instruction is this: if a fact can be reasonably interpreted in more than one way, then the interpretation which favors the defendant is the one which must be adopted. MUST. Even the most Ernie Bushmiller-level review of the evidence shows that Fields can make a claim, based on tie-goes-to-the-defender rules, that he feared for his safety. So, premeditation goes straight out the window and… Read more »

riverrider
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riverrider

even worse, virginia is not a “proximate cause” state. therefore the coroner’s ruling of death by heart attack should have legally ended any murder charge. the fact that it did not proves beyond doubt we are now firmly in multi-tiered justice ie no longer justice for all but levels of justice for different groups. this is a key feature of third world tin pot dictatorships. the republic is no longer.

FellowDissident
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FellowDissident

The conviction will be sustained on appeal unless there is evidence already on record of due process else procedural violation. Criminally culpable mind: intended actions to cause grievous physical harm to political opponents —-> Fields published statements promoting violence against his political opponents both contemporarily and in the days leading up to the event Criminal act: turned the car into a weapon by deliberately driving into a crowd —-> Field was behind the wheel and operated the vehicle which struck and killed a woman No reasonable exculpation —-> Field was relatively safe inside his sealed up car, no door or… Read more »

ReluctantReactionary
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Sometime I hate it when you are right. Field’s messed up big time; however, the difference between ending up like Fields vs. Reginald Denny is a few seconds. This is good to keep in mind if you are ever attacked by a mob. You must wait until the last possible instant before using force, and even then you need a lot of luck.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

It also depends highly upon who you run over – and whether or not you’re dumb enough to let it get caught on camera. If there’s one thing I learned as far back as middle school – it’s that if somebody wants to get into a fight with you, unfortunately the best way to get away with beating them to within an inch of their life – is to let them start the fight – and you HAVE TO let them get in some good whooping before you fight back and beat the living hell out of them. That way… Read more »

midlandia
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midlandia

Woah, was just thinking same…along lines of “how can you be safe in your car after the Reginald Denny beating?”

House of Pancakes
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House of Pancakes

@FellowDissident: well I imagine you’re right, and also I bet you know way more about this stuff than I do. All the same, I can’t resist a good chess problem, so here are some counter-arguments. Again, this is chess logic, not legal expertise… 1. Criminally culpable mind — “Fields published statements…” In the era of shit-posting, drunk-blogging, Ambien-induced Twitter tirades, in an age where half the Internet is a cross between road rage and a middle school food fight, a good lawyer should be able to make anything Fields said on social media look thoughtless and inconsequential. I remember when… Read more »

Chris_Lutz
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The only real weakness is what he posted before the event. Anything else seems like a decent attorney could plant a lot of doubt. But his mindset ahead of time, I would subpoenaed all of the online records of the people with the bats, etc. surrounding his vehicle. I bet they were discussing violence as well. Make his mindset seem less unique but part of what was happening.

How did the actual trial proceed? Does anyone have any good links? I am actually surprised he received more than manslaughter.

Chaotic Neutral
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Chaotic Neutral

Oh, do they have him as having said incriminating things b4 the event? That would be a kicker, unfortunately. Nowadays, I’ve heard of cases where even if a white accidentally injures a nonwhite, for example in a carcwreck, they will comb through the persons emails and online activities to find evidence of racial bias! You know to make it look like a “hate crime.” That would mean many of us commenters are screwed.

Chaotic Neutral
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Chaotic Neutral

If so, that may be what they’re using to argue malice aforethought.

Chaotic Neutral
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Chaotic Neutral

Yeah, in the months before, he posted joke images about running over protestors. Looks very very incriminating. He may be guilty of first degree. He got sentenced to over 400 years! No chance of parole in Virginia. Jeez.

midlandia
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midlandia

Even a few appeals judges have based their ruling on (they said) twitter posts by Trump, giving any ruling about migration an implied meaning. People are getting fired because of twitter posts. Wish they were not receiving the attention they are getting.

George True
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George True

Actually, a few of the ‘facts’ you cited are not so. The coroner’s report said that the land whale Heather Heyer died of a heart attack, not from any kind of blunt force trauma. The heart attack was most likely brought on by a combination of her being extremely morbidly obese, and the stress of high heat and high humidity, exertion, and excitement. In addition, the still shots and video footage showed her leaning prostrate against the sloping front end of a mini van, three vehicles ahead of where the defendant’s vehicle rear ended the stopped vehicles. Had he really… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

The Right Stuff guys are saying that Heyer was hit by a car.

https://twitter.com/AlexJMcNabb/status/1072581310659604486

Dutch
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Dutch

Show trials operate under their own logic and rules. We are going to see quite a few show trials in the near future.

Compsci
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Compsci

You don’t need a lawyer to explain the verdict. 1) you had a biased jury selection 2) you had an inexperienced defense counsel 3) you had a failure to prove a reasonable fear for your life, which was essential to a self defense justification. I was once in exactly Fields situation. My vehicle was surrounded and being rocked by a flash mob. I had made the mistake of pulling too close to the vehicle in front of me and had no possibility of driving away or reversing (as the guy in back blocked me in as well). I was armed… Read more »

Member

It will be either reversed on appeal or greatly reduced to something like release based on time already served. There are just so many things wrong here. I can’t believe the trial was not moved out of the area.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Who dares pay to pursue an appeal?
When do payment processors, etc start cutting off that avenue, as well?

Member

The real lesson is if you find yourself in a similar situation, and have no other means of defending youself, and If you’re gonna be put away for life anyways, take out as many of the motherfuckers as you can.

FellowDissident
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FellowDissident

I don’t think Fields’ car could build up sufficient kinetic energy under the circumstances to do a whole lot of damage. My understanding is the cat lady who died largely succumbed to her own physical liabilities.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

In essence that’s what the verdict is telling us. If you defend yourself, your life is over and you become a rape toy for Dwane and Jose until you die.

So you may as well go full tilt boogie and take as many with you as you can.

And drive a big SUV or pickup with stout steel bumper, That way you can keep on rolling through the Lefty masses with little difficulty

Guzalot
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Guzalot

JFK once said “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.” I think he was spot on with that.

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Bet he didn’t have today’s situation in mind.

Vegetius
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Vegetius

Study the insurgencies of the past with an eye towards how their strategies and tactics apply to political and meta-political conflict.

I am disturbed that there are still many out there who regard Richard Spencer as some sort of leader. He never was, and never will be. In another context he might have been a glib and effective pitchman. That context is no longer possible.

Yves Vannes
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To be strong enough to stop it means being strong enough to defend ourselves as well. This means we need to think and act logistically. The northern half of the US (north of the 40th Parallel) is very very very white (we can reform a few “troubled” areas). We should make it even more white. This will mean leaving areas where our families may have resided for decades if not centuries. Roots are important but survival has to come first. Have a region you dominate, have a region you can defend…and you have a region that can ignore whatever crap… Read more »

pyrrhus
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pyrrhus

Fields fled from people pointing rifles at him and banging on his car with bats. The extremely obese “victim” died of a heart attack….Judicial lynchings coming to a court near you, stay away from crowds and lay low.

WhistleHammer
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WhistleHammer

Her autopsy report indicates that she died of a “complete transection of the thoracic aorta”, secondary to blunt trauma, not a myocardial infarction.
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/richmond.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/52/452e3703-c19c-5f4c-9bea-2e2bd0db8883/5c0863779981a.pdf.pdf

Observer
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Observer

At least now we know now that we live under a hostile Jewish occupation that is wearing America’s skin as a suit.

ExileOnMainStreet
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ExileOnMainStreet

Consider that other Bernie, bro — Madoff. He was able to scam tens of billions USD almost exclusively from juice. Not even the wasps could invest that much money in such a brief period of time. Yet Madoff and majority of his investors are serfs in comparison with Rothschild-stratus (((money families))).

America’s skin was harvested, donned then discarded by juice and it was recycled into small shoes worn in winter by money family dogs and cats. (((They))) are currently wearing NWO skin suits but once opportunity appears they’ll ditch those suits and not bother wearing anything because they won’t have to.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

Really great post, in a melancholy sort of way. ‘This’ cannot be solved within the system. I dont know what that means except that it will mean an interesting chapter in future history books. And quite a few of us will die, or rot in prison. It’s easy to be brave on the internet. But it will take more.

Dutch
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Dutch

Look ahead to where things are going. I have no doubt Trump/Huber/Horowitz have the goods on Hillary, Obama, the real Russians, Uranium 1, and so on. Comey, Clapper, Brennan, McCabe, and all their underlings. But the chaff dropping by the paid off media (who they also have the goods on) is going to reinforce the bubble around the Progs and many of the normies, to the point where reality will be undetectable amongst the noise. Especially if you have been trained out of actually examining evidence or thinking for yourself. That is the new endgame of the Left. You can… Read more »

Paul Bonneau
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This was a PR disaster for our enemies, just like Waco and Ruby Ridge was, at a low cost to our side. How many people are awakened by such actions? It is crucial for the ruling class to keep people asleep, and believing in the institutions. They failed with Charlottesville. Yes, it was not low cost to the few people caught up in the mess, but that is always so in any action or war. The cost that matters has to do with the big picture, not at the individual level. The war that is coming will see many individuals… Read more »

Christopher S. Johns
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Christopher S. Johns

“The normal way of resolving disputes in a civil society are no longer available. The people in charge are slowly swinging the authoritarian door closed on us. They are corrupting every aspect of civil life in order to prevent any challenge to their authority.” DOJ WANTS TO KEEP JUSTIFICATION FOR RAIDING REPORTED CLINTON FOUNDATION WHISTLEBLOWER SECRET https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/10/doj-clinton-foundation-raid-secret/ As for James Field, accounts of the trial I read described his court-appointed defense counsel as more or less openly assisting in their client’s conviction. Their cross-examination of key witnesses never attempted to undermine the prosection’s case, even when it would have been… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Judas Fucking Priest.
AP: “Jury recommends life plus 419 years”

Is that true, or a *Web* hoax?

Issac
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Issac

True and you just know Trump will want to brag that he gave this kid lethal injection with the 30 hatecrime charges from DOJ. I can forsee lots of young whites being done with Trump by years end. Boomers will brag about the dead nazi too.

FellowDissident
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FellowDissident

Meanwhile in Suffolk County the new head prosecutor, SJW Rachel Rollins, announced her office won’t prosecute negroes who rough you up, pummel a cop, break into your home and help themselves to your stuff, kill your pets, or show up in your front yard to sell your children illicit drugs. She emphatically rejects “broken window” policing. Presumably if you should resist a home invasion, the perp will walk free and you will be arrested. Talk about paradigm shift. If I lived there I’d be tempted to shoot ’em anyway and emplace a screwdriver in the corpse’s hand because “I feared… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Anarcho-tyranny.
I’ve seen Black, Left, and Muslima tweeters openly drooling over a coming Purge.

Not to defend, mind, but to take.

Member

Another excellent post, Zman. I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them…And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High (i think this includes all who genuinely try to live good and decent lives rather than those who merely make a show of religion), and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. Written 2500 years ago. Whether one believes in prophecy, this is worth thinking… Read more »

Cloudswrest
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Cloudswrest

This essay by “Yggdrasil” is over 20 years old, but it’s more true today than ever. Note, the linked site is the only one I could find currently hosting this essay, it’s not the site of the original publisher, which appears to be either down or defunct.

Hate Crimes and Rules of Evidence.

http://www.euvolution.com/nationalism/hate-crimes-and-rules-of-evidence.htm

Larry
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Larry

Organize!

Scott Jones
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Scott Jones

Um, you do know he killed Heather Heyer don’t you?

TBoone
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TBoone

Death by Cardiac Event. How did he induce said cardiac event? Lay out the biochemical mechanism. Please….

newrouter
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newrouter

Where’s Haven Monahan when you need him/xer?

Dale Peterson
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Dale Peterson

We need to all get behind Jared Kushner on this one. HE will lead us through the Wilderness!

Juri
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Juri

In the army, lost battle is normally the thing that teaches most. All alarm bells go off and every fool understand that changes are necessary.
Have you heard that Soviets considered Stalingrad their strategic loss ? After Stalingrad, German Army was finally reformed for winter war, this prolonged the war at least 1 year and caused Soviets so many losses that Soviet Union never completely recovered.

ErisGuy
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ErisGuy

If only Fields were a musician… “Pub patrons had begun to attack his Bentley and Moon, drunk, began driving to escape them. During the fracas, he hit Boland. After an investigation, the coroner ruled Boland’s death an accident and Moon received an absolute discharge after being charged with a number of offences”

HIt, BTW, is an understatement: Boland’s body was dragged under Moon’s car.