Our great challenge in this age is getting white people to think that their preferences are valid. That is, white people can want a public policy or a social custom for no other reason than they want it. Instead, whites are endlessly searching around for some external standard against which they can measure their preference. Only then can they declare that desire valid, because it matches that standard. Whites no longer feel as if what they want is valid because they want it.
The best and most comical example is the sacralization of blacks by conservatives. At C-PAC every year, they bring in a black conservative to bless the gathering with their presence, like a visiting dignitary or aristocrat. You could get rich charging these people for a selfie with a black guy. The attendees would empty their bank accounts for the chance to show they are not racist. In fact, Candace Owens is getting very rich by going around and telling whites it is OK to want what they want.
This tendency has now reached the absurd with white politicians criticizing non-whites based on the Israeli standard. If Trump wants to mock a dingbat like Ocasio-Cortez, he has to frame it as a defense of Israel. Senator Josh Hawley says he would give his life to defend Israel and the Jewish people. He’s not Jewish. He just accepts that he cannot have opinions of his own. They must be signed off on by some group outside of white people in order for them to be valid.
Hawley is a hero of dissidents, so it is tempting to try to explain this in more favorable terms, but think of it this way. Imagine him tweeting out “You’ll have to carry me out on a slab before I compromise my defense of white people, their greatness, their history, their safety, and the state of Missouri.” Even if you strike the “white people” part it is inconceivable that any white politician would say such a thing. It would be assumed that he implied white people and he would be forced to grovel.
We now live in a world in which white people no longer have a say. If whites want to live like white people, they have to prove it is not racist. That means finding some blacks to bless their activity. This is not just something the Left imposes on the Right, in order to control their opposition. Confront liberal whites about gentrification of their cities or the extreme whiteness of their neighborhoods and they will go into convulsions trying to avoid discussing it. They don’t get to be white either.
Here’s an example from National Review on the immigration issue. You would think that the alleged flagship of conservatism would have a lot of cultural arguments to make regarding immigration. You would be wrong. The only thing they can muster is that the economy is not happy with open borders. These are people who have come to worship the pivot table, as it allows them to validate their desire to live as they want to live. If Excel, peace be upon him, blesses it, then it is OK.
The end point of the war on white culture, starting after World War II, is that whites no longer feel their desires have merit. If whites want something, they must first find a non-white to bless it. When a black is not available, then the next move is to prove it is good for Israel or Jews. When that fails, then it is an appeal to the Holy Spreadsheet. It’s as if the tastes, the preferences and the desires of white people are so anathematized, white people are ashamed to acknowledge them.
This is the mentality of a conquered people. This is the slave trying to convince the master to allow him a little room for himself. This is the outlook of people who no longer have a self that has aspirations, desires and a future. Instead it is the attitude of a people who see themselves at the mercy of others. That is exactly the situation of white people today. To say, “This is who we are and this is how we live, because it is the way we want it” is outside the shared reality of white people.
Fundamentally, this is the heart of the fight. All the stuff about demographics, race realism, ethnography and so forth are window dressing. The real battle is to break the conditioning of whites, who have been trained their whole lives to see themselves as fundamentally amoral, therefore in need of external moral standards to justify their desires and their preferences. The end point of this is that time when it is natural for white people to say, “Because we live here and this is how we do things.”
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This must be an urban white problem because out in the rural parts we whites do what we want with our evil guns and carbon-spewing V-8 pickups. What we bemoan is that we can no longer tell the uppity brown folk to stay on their side of the railroad tracks. And we stew in impotent rage when the liberal urbanites use tax policy to confiscate our wealth and redistribute it to the brown filth or regulate our lives based on an unwelcome globohomo agenda centered on Nanny-state concerns like climate change, transgender rights and the glories of multicultural diversity. Hell,… Read more »
Brother if we had enough whites in one area that understood what was going on then we wouldn’t even have to worry about paying them…Wish more white people understood that…
Physical proximity and face-to-face interaction is a necessary part of building a real core white community. The nay-sayers here think I’m talking about civil war, prepping or a Benedict Option when I say this, but it starts with simply having like-minded white neighbors, then neighborhoods. Worry about the rest later – if we start coming together, there will be a natural synergy of goodwill and strength through cohesion. We will be better positioned to either weather the storm or bring the thunder ourselves if we’re actually standing together, not scattered over an internet which can be bottlenecked or roadblocked by… Read more »
@Exile
Exactly Brother…Well Put…You should check out the Bitterroot Valley in MT…
Will do. Camping, hunting & fishing CA national parks this summer, was planning on dog-legging through Glacier National Park then down into CO by September. Not much of a detour.
Clarity. Your best post i have yet read.
Seconded. Of all Zman’s posts this year, this is my favorite. It cuts to the very heart of the current American kulturkampf.
Agree. This addresses the heart of the problem rather than the symptoms or coping strategies. Brilliant post, Zman.
“If whites want something, they must first find a non-white to bless it. When a black is not available, then the next move is to prove it is good for Israel or Jews. When that fails, then it is an appeal to the Holy Spreadsheet.”
Total genius, Z.
Shrug;
That’s why ‘It’s OK to be White’ is such powerful rhetoric. The key is to maintain ‘frame’ and innocently ask, “What’s wrong with saying, ‘It’s OK to be White.’. I’m fine with *anybody* saying ‘It’s OK to be ______, if that’s what they are.”
Yes, and the related phrase, “It’s not ok to be anti-White”. Trigger the woke left, wake up sleepy Whites.
And perhaps adopting the catch-phrases of our opponents.
“Its a white thing, you wouldn’t understand”
“You don’t share our burden so keep the word ‘white’ out of your mouth.”
“Thanks, man, that’s mighty white of ya.”
Civilization: it’s a white thang.
Like that one. How about: Orderly Civilization. It’s a White thing?
I’d spin it as a question: “Is it OK to be anti-white? How about Anti-Black? Anti-Jewish”?
Repeat as necessary (and it will be) force them to respond,
If it ain’t white, it ain’t right!
How about “it’s the white thing to do.”
Got White? Well Allright!!
“Orderly, Clean, Convivial, Safe and Prosperous. Or just “White” for short”
@KT
Amen on that Brother…
White oppression entered a new phase when, seemingly overnight, it became necessary to show Africans in advertisements, magazine covers and article illustrations, movies, and TV shows. At first I was puzzled. I understood virtue signaling, but what possible advantage could including these icons in mass media offer the sponsors? Logically it seems irrelevant, if not counterproductive, to the sales pitch or response among non-African consumers. Now I get it. The requisite images of Africans are an imprimatur, a racial Good Housekeeping seal of approval. Although non-Africans are understood by producers to be the real audience, it’s now taboo to speak… Read more »
Blacks watch more TV and use social media at a higher rate than other races.
That this appears overseas, however, indicates that something else is going on, as you suggest.
The only chance for the classical liberal project to hang on, with increasing authoritarianism, is to find ways of morally shaming non-whites.
Oh, something else is going on, alright. Ask yourself this: why is one member of mixed-race couples in advertising ALWAYS white? Why don’t we see Blaxspanic couples? Sino-Indian couples? Arab-Amerindian couples? I’ll tell you why. Because the object of these images has nothing to do with influencing POC or even selling product. The object is to convince hangdog whites that they are required to provide sexual reparations to POC. And if fewer pure white offspring result, well, that is a nice side dividend. It’s all part of the AWR narrative.
Sexual reparations, eh? That gives me an idea along the lines of setting up a bogus twitter campaign for a new law that would prohibit white people from marrying or breeding with other white people. I could call it the Campaign for Reproductive Justice.
See if the leftwaffe pick it up and run with it for real.
Acceleration, baby. Yeah.
Leftwaffe. Nice…
Your analysis is bang on, Z. One hopeful caveat, however. The phenomenon you describe, this whimpering whiteness, no longer applies to all whites. It certainly applies to white elites, and whites to the left of Ronald Reagan. However, I am convinced there is a budding core of militant whites who have somehow sloughed off the culturally imposed guilt, and are advocating for whites qua whites. Trump, I am convinced, is, deep down, one of us, and he occasionally displays his white chauvinism. And in the process, he has emboldened the rest of us. The Left is correct to fear white… Read more »
Some politician (I forget who) just came out and said, “I’m a person of color. I’m white.” The old desiccated husk is cracking and something new and alive is emerging. Trump (as useless as he is a lot of the time) always starts punching again just before his corner’s ready to throw in the towel; this spat with the “Squad” is going to clarify some battle lines.
In my more hopeful moments, I like to think we’ll get a moment of tragic clarity from Trump where he provides an anti-example for much better standard-bearers to come, some moment where even that normiest of Chads will see the bait-and-switch, whether it was of his own devising or forced upon him. Let’s please get something good out of this shitshow.
Yeah the whole person a color thing is a terrible misnomer. Most of the world is filled with people with black hair, brown or black eyes and brown skin except for one group of people with pink skin, gold and red hair and blue and green eyes. That’s color!
“this spat with the “Squad” is going to clarify some battle lines.” And do not overlook the fact that Orange Bad Man has shoved the Overton window so far and so fast that I am surprised the damn thing isn’t hanging on its hinges. And he did it with one tweet! Is anyone talking about the Wall today? No. Now the talk is about sending them back. It’s gone from a defensive mewl to an offensive snarl overnight. That matters. I know that many of you feel let down by Trump and maybe with good reason but I have to… Read more »
No, there is not. Trump has lost his fair share of battles, but he is winning the war of reawakening white people.
My head says you’re wrong but my heart hopes you’re right.
Think through the whole list of pussy footers in the 2016 Republican candidates. Like him or not, Trump had the most potential to right the ship.
Trump has his flaws, but he’s no cuck or squish.
“…white nationalism … is a real thing…” Israeli hasbara is full of lies and half-truths, but I think that the claim that there was no Palestinian people in 1948 is correct. The tribes there had common language, culture, religion, and customs, thus had all the preconditions for being a nation, but they were not one yet. Then the Israelis came along and made them all suffer together. Now, they are a nation. New nations arise from the wreckage of multicultural empires. It has been said that American whites were not a real nation before the 1965 non-white floodgate-opening, only a… Read more »
“This is the mentality of a conquered people.” The opioid crisis of white American men is like the suicidal alcoholism of the American Indians under the USA and the Russians under Communism.
And I agree with others that this post is especially insightful and concise.
The fact that the Chinese shrugged off the mass opium addiction of the 19th Century gives me hope.
Another thing that marked China’s turn towards shaking off its servile status and becoming a modern superpower: the mass expulsion of foreigners.
Meme, yes the Chinese did eliminate the threat of the opium addicts to society, but a bullet to the head is not a “shrugging off”. However, definitely more effective than our current measures. 😉
>>>Meme, yes the Chinese did eliminate the threat of the opium addicts to society, but a bullet to the head is not a “shrugging off”. <<<
Truth is, it’s probably too late for most of the already addicted. It’s about saving the kids now. We, as a people, must do the shrugging off.
“This is the mentality of a conquered people.” The opioid crisis of white American men is like the suicidal alcoholism of the American Indians under the USA and the Russians under Communism. The alcoholism under the Commies was old-fashioned Russian power-drinking, a cherished cultural tradition; up until the Second World War, being an alcoholic was almost a requirement for becoming an officer, and even Stalin had problems curbing binge drinking in the ranks. The real suicidal alcoholism emerged under Yeltsin, where the average expected lifespan dropped ten(!) years – i.e. after the Soviet Union had been destroyed and Russia taken… Read more »
The opioid crisis of white American men is like the suicidal alcoholism of the American Indians under the USA
and the Russians under Communism.
Is there any hope of rescuing those men Line or are they too far gone…
Concentrate on saving the next, concentrate on saving the rest.
Addicts have to want to live.
We can’t use or save them, this is beyond politics.
We weren’t conquered.
We were tricked.
We are waking up.
We man up so many of our problems fade.
We man up all our problems are quite solvable.
For the enemy has only tricks, bluff and scolding. The enemy has no intrinsic force.
Life is still too comfortable for too many. Too much bread and too many circuses. Justification for what? Most are at best only marginally aware of what’s going on.
We are long past the point of fixing anything through our cultural and political institutions. This makes having to face facts even more difficult.
The balloon needs to go up. That’s the only way. Which means things are going to need to get a lot worse.
Look at Paris. Why aren’t there 10,000 muslim heads on pikes lining the Champs this morning?
Comfortability will be our downfall…Look even here at zman most are still to comfortable because they aren’t doing much more than just commenting on the state of things and how mad they are about it…When I start to see people coming together and building Communities only then will I know that the frog knows it’s time to get out of the pot…
Whites are fractious, but pull together when things get tough. The trick is to start pulling together now, rather than waiting for the tough(er) times.
I would say it’s not just ‘too comfortable’ – it’s ‘have a “good enough” thing and a hell of a lot to lose, not just for oneself but for one’s children’.
I would say that things will change quickly when there is no longer a suburb and middle class job to flee to, because the (dot) Indians won’t let any white folk in.
There have been some tentative efforts to build up networks, but safety is a concern. The more who get involved with these semi-clandestine communities, the easier it will be for others to get involved. Let’s not just sit around waiting for some powder keg to ignite. Have you heard of natconnect?
Not only do white liberals tend to live in gentrified white neighborhoods, the few non-whites who live there have white mannerisms. It’s odd. For instance, a black guy won’t be “keeping it real,” he’ll be wearing a scarf with a corduroy sport coat or something, with the old fashioned wire spectacles. Even the Asians are sort of vanilla Asians with all kinds of white people eating disorders, gluten free etc.. White liberalism has a culture and ethnicity all its own. Like Sunday brunch and reading the paper in a coffee shop, carbon fiber bikes, etc. It’s very materialist, but specifically… Read more »
If it’s a carbon fiber mountain bike, it’s OK. 👍🏻
With Steel Cut Oats, Quinoa, and Applewood Bacon?
Gotta wash that down with a Pumpkin Spice Latte, of course.
Pumpkin Spice Latte with coconut milk.
Nothing awakens my inner AWR quite like a kale-and-soy milk smoothie…
Hey, leave the bacon out of this!
Like Sunday brunch and reading the paper in a coffee shop, carbon fiber bikes, etc.
How about crosswords? I’ve been told crosswords is a very white thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y–z7SEtypY
Absolutely. And Sudoku.
I was wondering about that. I have a vague impression that it’s a Japanese invention, but perhaps that’s just the name.
Let’s see – a game that requires smarts and patience, done quietly and alone, with a quiet, private reward of satisfaction upon ‘winning’, no mugging for the cameras and gloating… sounds pretty white to me.
And, sure enough, it was invented by a white guy from the Midwest (of the US), a retired insurance salesman who wanted to stimulate the minds of his grandchildren, back in the late seventies.
They’ve been around since the classical era in both the West and the Far East.
Here is a famous depiction of magic squares in a Durer painting. Look above the angel’s head.
I see, thanks.
But the grid above the angel doesn’t much look like a sudoku to me: it looks more like some alchemic symbols. Also, I don’t see why Dürer would place a sudoku in that picture.
“The order four magic square Albrecht Dürer immortalized in his 1514 engraving Melencolia I, referred to above, is believed to be the first seen in European art. The square associated with Jupiter appears as a talisman used to drive away melancholy. It is very similar to Yang Hui’s square, which was created in China about 250 years before Dürer’s time. The sum 34 can be found in the rows, columns, diagonals, each of the quadrants, the center four squares, and the corner squares (of the 4×4 as well as the four contained 3×3 grids). This sum can also be found… Read more »
They like traveling to third world countries, and on more than a few occasions, wind up getting kidnapped, raped and murdered by their pet vibrants. **smh**
Yes, and Japan would be the exception. You must go to Japan at some point. Usually between Peru and Nepal trips.
Most of those who have been killed on such pilgrimages appear to me to have believed their own shit and mistakenly put it to the test. Good riddance. Darwinian selection in action.
I have a bit more compassion, at least for some. The two Scandinavian girls killed in Morocco, they videotaped their murder. The second girl died crying out for her mother while some Islamic wooly-bully sawed her head off. I used to force myself to watch these things, to help me keep clarity on what we face. Couldn’t do it this time. The writer describing the video was enough, too much, for me. I dont blame the girls. They were reared to despise their culture, adore the diversity and suffered like sheep. Sheep. They were led to the slaughter by a… Read more »
I am one of those global travelers and issue no apologies. I was raised with National Geographic mags inter alia and afflicted with the vagabond bug. I was built to be an explorer and, until my wife’s cancer diagnosis this winter (she recently rang her treatment gong, we’re okay), I visited some place other than where I live up to twice each month, camera or hunting rifle in hand. I formally studied ancient Greek, Latin, Japanese and Russian languages in addition to STEM ug and grad. I have taught myself tens of other languages. I have never taken a cruise… Read more »
😂The irony it burns…
Glad your wife has is recovering. You are a man, and were prepared to deal with open eyes the challenges encountered. Most of these young people are woefully blind to the hazards of third world countries.
“I would not trade a single effing minute of it all, and still hope to travel more while I can, for a fancy car or car collection, private aircraft or yacht, big home, or even children. ”
“Or even children.” I doubt it. You are too invested in entertaining yourself to have to give it up for children.
May the surly hatian nurse’s assistants be gentle with you in your lonely last days on Earth, as your family line dies in a nursing or assisted living home.
I am a bastard, literally. Outwardly different demographic than my Armenian namesakes, a freakishly-talented family. I knew at age 14 that nobody would ever take care of me as an outcast. Fortunately, I earn more each year than your entire neighborhood in all likelihood. In any event, I can take care of myself and I choose to be a part of “our thing” in the Z context. Carry on, and mind the gap.
Take a look a the old Life magazines of the late ‘40s and the ‘50s. Also the movies of the era. By and large, they celebrate the white culture and aspirations of that day. All of those artifacts will be banished soon, branded as toxic as the Stars and Bars.
And you know what else? Even blacks wanted desperately to be a part of white culture. Jazz, for instance, and contrary to received wisdom, was heavily white in most ways prior to the 60s when it was rebranded as an act of Afrocentric rebellion.
“Jazz…was heavily white in most ways prior to the 60s when it was rebranded as an act of Afrocentric rebellion.”
Lol, no it wasn’t. Unless of course you consider jazz to have been birthed in the 1940s with bebop, a more pop-centric genre with a definable beat to which whites could nod their head.
The first recorded jazz was Dixieland stuff performed by a white group. But even that’s beside the point. Jazz appeared in a definitively white cultural milieu, used western musical notation and western instruments. Never in a million years would jazz have appeared in Africa. It could only be born in a white nation, and probably only in America.
Look at Trump; breaking the conditioning is easier than supposed. It should also be noted we weren’t conquered- we were tricked. We were betrayed. The emotions indeed instincts that arise from betrayal are powerful; that’s power. The Left of course does not react well to challenges and boldness is rewarded. Its difficult not to respect someone who stands their ground (normies will respect) but far more difficult to forgive groveling; or long endure it. It also cannot be overstressed that they have little to no intrinsic force. They have scolding, shaming, social pressure. The occasional judge. Standing up for yourself… Read more »
“It should also be noted we weren’t conquered- we were tricked. We were betrayed. The emotions indeed instincts that arise from betrayal are powerful; that’s power.”
Damn straight. Exactly the kind of power we can use in building an American White identity. Thesis – the present virtues and proud, if largely obfuscated history and traditions of the White American Sardaukar. Antithesis – our subjugation by Globoschlomo and the betrayal of GoodWhites. Sythesis – a new American White identity.
Well spoken. The next question is, who tricked us?
A girlfriend repeatedly expressed concern about Indians (dot not feather) moving into her northern NJ neighborhood. She said that she and her husband didn’t want to be the last White people in their neighborhood. I know a luxury housing development in the area that is mostly Indian with a few east Asians. No Whites, Blacks or Hispanics at all. One idea that I hear from civic nationalists is that non-Whites more or less vote for the Democrats because Republicans haven’t reached out to them. Non-Whites also supposedly share our values. A civic nationalist thinks that the Moslem woman wearing a… Read more »
The idea that the GOP “doesn’t reach out” is a victim-blaming tactic. Liberals don’t want to acknowledge that non-whites are acting in bad faith, or voting for tribal reasons. That said, there are some socially conservative invaders that would be inclined to vote GOP if not for the rube bait dished out; and even more would vote GOP if the party was economically more interventionist. But would it ever comprise a majority, no. The Canadian Conservative Party panders much more from an already more leftist position. And they still get blown out. We may need to look into exile; Argentina,… Read more »
Civnats forget that Trump-hating Black Republican Michael Steele was Lt. Governor of Maryland and chaired the Minority Business Enterprise taskforce, actively promoting the spread of Affirmative Action in the corporate world. Affirmative Action is a Republican value? He also served as Chair of the RNC from 2009-2011.
At one time, Asians voted predominately Republican, but no longer do. I don’t know why.
>>>At one time, Asians voted predominately Republican, but no longer do. I don’t know why.<<<
Who were they, how many of them, and where were they from? I’m guessing that there’s a divide between the Asians referenced above (few) and the Hart-Celler “Americans” (many).
Pre-65 Hispanics (many of whom are simply White Spaniards whose families passed through Mexico on the way to the US) also vote GOP at a much higher rate.
There is a certain tendency of “self-reliance” that results in many working class whites not taking advantage of government programs. Liberals have historically wrung their hands about this, spending money on trying to get more people to enroll.
Immigrants have none of this sense, they don’t view welfare usage as shameful, in turn they also don’t mind paying higher taxes as much if they advance economically. Simply being in a First World country is worth quite a lot compared to the relatives in the Old Country.
I have noticed two notable exceptions to the non-white adherence to the narrative. Tejanos and Filipinos. I’ve worked and served with numerous old time Texan Hispanics and they are an odd duck. Dating back many generations they tend to be extremely pro-America (nay, pro-Texas then pro-American). Most despise the illegal invasion. In the service, the combat units (actual fighters) seem to be comprised entirely of whites and Texicans. As for Filipinos, they are called the silent majority of asians. Outside of the post office (and I chalk that up to being Gov worker-slobs more than anything) Filipinos tend to the… Read more »
Cubanos may fit in with the Tejanos and Filipinos. Of course, they’re pretty white.
One idea that I hear from civic nationalists is that non-Whites more or less vote for the Democrats because Republicans haven’t reached out to them.
That’s crazy talk. Since Reagan, at least, the Republicans have tried to pivot to POC, albeit with next to no success. The Orange Savior himself has often “reached out” (i.e. kissed ass) to POC – “our wonderful black community”, “the beautiful Hispanic people”, blablabla, but never once has he said ANYTHING about “white Americans” or “European Americans”.
Any politician that so much as hints at “pro-white” is risking either impeachment in the executive, or expulsion in the legislature.
White (Jewish) postgraduate liberals have the power to veto anything we want. That’s why such cringeworthy pandering exists.
“The Orange Savior himself has often “reached out” (i.e. kissed ass) to POC …but never once has he said ANYTHING about “white Americans…”. That is because the target audience of these comments by President Trump is not the diversity to which he refers but the stupidly nice white people who voted for him and whose votes he needs again. The commies are trying to make them feel guilty for voting for him. PDJT is trying to inoculate them. These whites have not yet given themselves permission to pursue their own legitimate self interests. They are still slaves in their own… Read more »
These whites have not yet given themselves permission to pursue their own legitimate self interests. I dunno. People weren’t chanting “hug a POC now!” at his rallies. It’s “build the wall” and “send her back”. If it turns (the) “Orange Savior” merely trying to repair the empire, we have lost absolutely nothing If I were to play Devil’s Advocate, I’d say his job is to kick the can down the road and stop a real nationalist from occupying the nationalist ticket. Give the proles some half-assed nationalist tweets while you accelerate the replacement, and people will say “well, at least… Read more »
“…concern about Indians (dot not feather)…” I had a conversation many years ago, when I was a young Dem, with two educated, credentialed dots. They said that Indians GREATLY favor Republicans (as they did back then, but it was news to me). I realize now that it was because back then they came here to loot our country not colonize it. Presently, most dots are coming here as colonists, not raiders, so they vote Dem for max gibs. (90% i think) Those with looting/raiding objectives (who might go back) simply want to squeeze as much money as they can as… Read more »
Didn’t know that. I realize that the Indians vote for the Democrats because they want the free stuff and legal privileges. A business owned by an Indian is a minority business enterprise. They are very socially conservative, but don’t care about social issues because they only care about their tribe and homeland. They don’t care about what members of other groups do nor the US as a whole. In Malaysia, about 67 percent of the population is ethnic Malaysian, almost all Moslem and still dominates politically. About 25 percent is Chinese and 8 percent Indian. From what I can see,… Read more »
The Indians and Asians see weakness and act like men.
Learn from same .
They flat out tell you white libs are children. Of course they’re taking us.
I think at a subconscious level a lot of goodwhites want to hold on to the idea of their mission in life being to help “minorities” because it implies (as all noblesse oblige does) that you have the power and are deigning to help the less fortunate. But to recognize that whites have interests that need defending is to admit that fighting on behalf of people who aren’t you (for three generations now) is to score an own-goal against yourself and your posterity. “It’s embarassing,” as Elizabeth Wright used to say, “to admit you’ve been complicit in your destruction.” It’s… Read more »
With respectful apologies to Kevin MacDonald, your citation of noblesse oblige is a more accurate description of what drives GoodWhiteness than his concept of pathological altruism, which would manifest itself in self-destructive altruism toward Whites and non-Whites alike rather than being entirely Other-focused as we see in practice. NobOb is a trait that could be evolutionarily selected for leadership fitness through the elimination of purely selfish, Hobbesian brute-leaders by collaboration of the tyrannized tribe (something Jonathan Haidt touched on in “Righteous Mind” in a somewhat different context).
Unlike the concept of black identity being entirely negative, its hard to say the same about white liberalism. It doesn’t need to continuously conjure up monarchist scarecrows to prove itself. But a good part of keeping the 40% of whites that are leftist in line is the fear of “Confederates in the Attic”, which we could extend to fear of “the demons within”. Woke isn’t so much an ersatz religion, as it is a religion in full. One might ask why people follow something with few rewards, but those who build the pyramids thought only the pharaoh was getting an… Read more »
This is an interesting, but I really don’t think we need a biological theory to explain modern manifestations of NobOb. I think this is just a kind of silly status signalling, borne of decadence. Steve Sailer has called this “leapfrogging loyalties.” At any rate, we need a way to convey the malign nature of this way of thinking and posturing.
If the American idea/proposition/creed was real and vital, you wouldn’t need to teach a nation of ostensibly proud individualists a moral justification for their existence. Unfortunately, the American CivNat creed was synthetically imposed rather than organically evolved It means so many things to so many different groups that it has become a source of discord rather than cohesion, secular sectarianism run mad. We need to re-ground ourselves on a firmer foundation if we are to resist the tide of atomization and Blue Pill temptations we and our children have to face. As I continue to study how tribes form, I’m… Read more »
What you’ve mentioned sounds a lot like 5th Political Theory (5PT), which I happen to be a big proponent of.
I’ll be looking forward to adding your site to my daily reads and contributing to your comments section.
Exile the only thing better would be to do it in the physical realm so I look forward to reading it…
Best post in a long time. This cuts to the heart of the matter.
Laser like focus on what the real problem is, and it’s something that any reasonably intelligent white guy can focus on in his everyday interactions.
No need for snark or whining. The overwhelming majority of whites, including liberals and leftists, prefer western European standards and sensibilities, and we can only have those in a majority European society with Europeans in charge… forever.
This is the description of a culture that has been all but entirely neutered, completely crashed on its testosterone. Lost the masculine side of human nature. When I was in my early 20s a New York lady taught me a saying ‘from the big city’ (it was about a year before I moved there), “never apologize, never explain”. It is largely true.
This all also ties in very well w r/K biohistory stuff. White males have to become men again. Today most are not. If most became men again, we could handle a lot of our problems.
If most became men again, we could handle a lot of our problems.
Only working in concert though Brother otherwise it would be just a lot of flashbulbs going off and bloodlines lost that can never be brought back…So much more I could say but until we realize that, nothing else matters…
Folks here seem to be of a mind that our current lack of “men” is permanent and irreversible—at least in the immediate term. I can understand this. But I’m not so down beat. In most of our past great conflicts; WWI, WWII, Korean, etc., we sent a lot of boys to the fray who became men pretty quickly in the field and rose to the occasion. I seem to recall photo spreads in Life and Look mag’s showing GI’s in the Pacific literally eating C-rations in the field next to dead Jap’s. Yeah, we’re a bit out of shape, easy… Read more »
In your veins flows the blood of conquerors who wiped out other tribes and fucked their women. They did not sacrifice and prevail so that we would let go of our father’s gains with a whimper. Unleash the best you have inside of you.
It’s a truncated version of an English saying common in the Army for a century and change.
” Never volunteer, Never apologize, Never explain”.
I avoids a lot of shit,
My applause for this has lasted longer than it took me to read it.
White liberalism is, at its heart a disease of affluence. It’s a social disorder, like anorexia. You don’t see too many anorexics walking across the border from Mexico. Its people from comfortable suburbs who resent the structured suburban immaculate world in which they were raised. All human beings are built to struggle. We have an innate need to struggle. So the white liberal will buy a condo on a fifth floor walkup in trendy urban area. Something that used to house the poor in 1947. But then, they transform the space into granite counter tops and Viking appliances (Viking is… Read more »
JR, Wirh,
Good post. Almost spot on. Particularly about Viking being overrated. Where you were off…?
It should read “a ghost town of pale children named McKenzie (a proper name only as a Scots surname people!) and boys named Jayden.” Funny thing about Jayden, I’ve never met one of these poor boys that were named that and had anything but a single mom as a family or a completely-didn’t-get-a-say-in-namimg-their-son soyboy Dad.
Otherwise spot on observations.
There’s a reason why liberals tend to have jobs with no discernible responsibilities or measurements of performance,
JR: “They dine on Indian food, and call it Nepalese, which is just overpriced chicken and cauliflower.” Hehe, that was good. I’m with Penitent Man on your choice of names though. It’s a lot worse than Megan and Ian now. I was at a Target in Orange County the other day and this middle-class mom in t-shirt and jeans was calling out to her son, “Sterling”. It used to be a cool thing to name (or call) a girl Sam. It really is kinda cute-cool. But I heard a girl going by “Bill” the other day. Not a dyke either.… Read more »
Excellent post – and I am absolutely serious: I know the exact couple you describe and their names are, in fact, Megan and Ian! Totally cracked me up! (I know that was supposed to be the kids, but the coincidence of it being the parents’ names floored me).
Great column. I always find it incredible that when White people argue about History, for example, they always think the Killer argument is to say “It helped/hurt Black people” Were the 50s great for America? “Nope. what about black people”? Did Reconstruction split the country and help crooks ripoff the South? “So what, it helped Black people”. 600,000 people died in the civil war? “Well, that was a small price to pay for helping Black people.” And it applies to other minority groups. Who cares what Andrew Jackson did for the country, he hurt the Cherokees! And you’re celebrating FDR?… Read more »
White people have shown themselves to be very susceptible to shaming. Dissidents need to start calling whites “pussies” as frequently as possible. If you talk to some self-loathing white progressive — or even a cuckservative — make it personal. Emphasize how they don’t have the balls to stand up for themselves. Things in the West are getting desperate. We can’t afford to soft-peddle these matters much longer.
Wjkathman said: “White people have shown themselves to be very susceptible to shaming. Dissidents need to start calling whites “pussies” as frequently as possible.” Ya know. One of the main reasons the left keeps beating our balls off decade after decade is because they have a vision of the future that they keep red hot and never let go of. Without a vision that stimulates the imagination people are simply not motivated to act. Even if it’s only the hope of paying the rent. You have to give people a good reason to walk out the door in the morning.… Read more »
I admit that such a tactic might prove ineffective. It would be a gamble. That doesn’t make it any less true, though: people who won’t defend themselves are pussies. Sometimes it’s fun to state the truth with no regard for the consequences. And pussies deserve to hear it from someone.
Wjkathman said: “Sometimes it’s fun to state the truth with no regard for the consequences. And pussies deserve to hear it from someone.” Fair enough.
WJK, if you want to win friends and neighbors to your side, insulting them is probably not a good first step.
Imagine that you’ve walked into a car dealership. If the salesman calls you a pussy or some other insult because you don’t like his recommendation, you’re not going to stick around.
I’m sure the people you are concerned with are tired of being shamed. Maybe you can offer them something better.
Like it or not, the task ahead is sales, not invective. At least where friends and neighbors are concerned.
Inspiring enough to make me multi-post, Z. Your post resonates so well with a lot of what I’ve heard on various TRS shows of late (ASOB, Collett on FTN, and this week’s TDS’s among others) – what our people need is permission to simply be themselves. The passions we are condemned for are shared by the majority of Whites – not surprising considering they’re natural/instinctual. When they see someone who is a sympathetic, normal-presenting figure that is willing to say “It’s OK to be White” and has a credible, coherent message for why so much of Clown World seems to… Read more »
When they see someone who is a sympathetic, normal-presenting figure that is willing to say “It’s OK to be White” and has a credible, coherent
message for why so much of Clown World seems to disagree, their Big Other conditioning breaks down in a big way…
We have to be ready and willing to support them when someone stands up we can’t let them do it alone…
Our species didn’t ascend to the top of the organic pyramid by “asking” for validity. Our race didn’t become the most innovative and adaptable member of the species by “asking” for anything. Throughout evolutionary history, what persists is what works (and I mean that in the tangible sense). We now live in an exceptionally affluent environment in which reproductive fitness is enhanced by dependence, conformity, and skill at whining loudly (PC crying). Those chickens will eventually come home to roost and thereafter, once again, competitive fitness will arise and determine what “works.” Would you rather be robust at self defense… Read more »
Z: “Here’s an example from National Review on the immigration issue. You would think that the alleged flagship of conservatism would have a lot of cultural arguments to make regarding immigration. You would be wrong. The only thing they can muster is that the economy is not happy with open borders. These are people who have come to worship the pivot table, as it allows them to validate their desire to live as they want to live. If Excel, peace be upon him, blesses it, then it is OK.” I don’t know how National Review writers read stuff like this… Read more »
“Our great challenge in this age is getting white people to think that their preferences are valid. That is, white people can want a public policy or a social custom for no other reason than they want it. Instead, whites are endlessly searching around for some external standard against which they can measure their preference. Only then can they declare that desire valid, because it matches that standard. Whites no longer feel as if what they want is valid because they want it.” Indeed. I argued this is an essay on Max Stirner: “I would suggest some clear advantages in… Read more »
I’m unfamiliar with Stirmer. Thanks for posting this.
I was reading some Stirner the other day and thought, “Shit, he’s hitting the exact same points as Z.” “Revolution is aimed at new arrangements; insurrection leads us no longer to let ourselves be arranged, but to arrange ourselves, and set no glittering hope on ‘institutions'”
― Max Stirner
I’m an admirer of institutions, but the vast majority of institutions in the West have been conquered by race traitors.
@joey junger. According to wikipedia, Max Stirner “was a German philosopher who is often seen as one of the forerunners of nihilism, existentialism, psychoanalytic theory, postmodernism, and individualist anarchism.” Here’s the link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Stirner#Stirner's_Critics He definitely wouldn’t be a good role model for young White people looking for a firm spiritual foundation. And to be honest, I don’t care for his thinking either.
“Take what’s useful and dump the rest” is a good philosophy. You’ll see plenty of alt-right people finding utility in at least examining Marxist philosophy sometimes (“seizing the means of production” from the tech giants doesn’t sound like a bad idea to me right now). And Stirner wasn’t ever a role model. He was a philosopher. Role models should come from directly in the family (usually the father).
Enjoyed it the first time, very heavy read, re-reading today. Keep up the deep thinking, sir.
That’s exactly right. I would add though, that part of its power extends from a blended motive of elite whites still being wealthy, comfortable and perceived by most of society as still being the ones with the man pants on. Rank and file liberals view bush and Chaney as the motive force behind the Iraq war, not the Israel Lobby with bush and Chaney as their happenstance tools. White elites, including your bushes, Clinton’s, and trumps, are sort of a standing class of house negroes whose status is very contingent on their vassalhood to minority races. As a corollary point,… Read more »
“Get the women and Jews to safety!”
Another good argument, with dark humor, about how you should just take your own side. He’s like a Limey Zman.
This Morgoth is really good; he gets more attention now because of his YouTube videos; if you don’t know him, you should!
https://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2015/10/get-women-jews-to-safety.html
One of many Georges asid: “This Morgoth is really good; he gets more attention now because of his YouTube videos; if you don’t know him, you should!” Hahaha! Your right. This guy is great. I just Bookmarked him.
I didn’t know Morgoth had a blog. Just a video channel. That’s good to know.
The title of that post is funny as hell.
In that post he used the phrase, “a healthy sense of racism.” That’s good. I could see using that in real life arguments with Progs. “So you’re a RACIST then.” Me: “I try and maintain a healthy sense of racism, sure.” Too funny. Might try it sometime. Can you imagine using that line during a college class discussion? heh
Using that line in academia would result in expulsion proceedings. No foolin’.
People need to get an education on some of the tools that cults use on subjects to indoctrinate and keep minds where they want them. Think, for example, about words and phrases that are used as “thought stoppers”. The left, in concert with POC and others, have successfully used these tactics for years. The average white tries to logically combat the mental onslaught but continues to be held captive by the ruse.
Nailed it! The Left uses cult tactics. Just like the cults indoctrinate people to hate their families (to keep them under cult control), so the left indoctrinates whites to hate whiteness (to keep them under Leftie control). The “thought stoppers” are part of it, along with the constant drumbeat of indoctrination, and the demonizing of healthy and happy alternatives that are logical and obvious choices.
“The mentality of a conquered people.” Strange to say, the Allies both won and lost World War II.
Patton supposedly said that, “We defeated the wrong enemy,” but that quote is difficult to source.
It was impossible for anything “Conservative” to have come out after WW2 for long since it was essentially a war of 3 socialist powers , Social Democratic Allies, Socialist USSR vs National Socialist Germany with one semi Conservative. power , Imperial Japan in the mix
Thus we were prepped for socialism over tradition.
We might have had a chance but technology, immigration and urbanization breed leftism on a huge scale
It’s going ti implode sooner or later, certainly faster than the Western Roman Empire fell but who knows how long that will be.
We lost the Cold War, HUUUUGELY. The Russians got their internationalist problem under control. They still have a communist party, but my impression is that it is mostly nostalgia for lost social stability. They are making slow steady progress with economic and social stability. Birth rates are still a problem, but they are a problem for everyone that will only be solved when the natal natural selection process we are in finally finishes in another 10 generations or so. (all women want sex -> not all women want children ->pre-birth control they had NO choice, now they do ->anti-natal women… Read more »
I’ve said for years that the Cold War was a Pyrrhic victory for the West – we destroyed the USSR but only after it had injected us with slow acting cultural poison, as a result of which we’re falling dead on Lenin’s corpse.
T. B.
Likewise the USSR. It occupied E Europe and threatened W Europe for more than a generation. Yet it collapsed, mostly unaided by us, after it supposedly won WWII. The infamous Ms Somesay attributes this to the enormous casualties they suffered from that ‘victorious’ Great Patriotic War. As a Cold War military guy I had no idea this was coming. Nor did the vaunted CIA. Amazing_!
This is FANTASTIC! I have some thoughts on the subject but they would just water it down. Bravo!
No is a perfectly fine answer. Because I say so. What I control I do.
The usual suspects’ huffing and puffing about the use of the anti-Semitism card to attack the Democrats is, after the first obligatory signaling, a demoralizing waste of time and energy. There is no example of a rightwing movement approaching power anywhere in the West without the support of conservatives. We’d be better off if everyone shifted their attention to rubbing Minnesotans’ noses in Omar 24/7 until November 2020. For once, at least, a few Republicans have found themselves in the unfamiliar position of being on the offensive over an issue where race is front and center. We ought not to… Read more »
“There is no example of a rightwing movement approaching power anywhere in the West without the support of conservatives.”
There are a number of European right wing movements who assumed power before WW2 who regarded conservatives as relatively worthless because conservatives value personal wealth, comfort, and stability above all else. I am sympathetic to that appraisal.
Vegetius said: “For once, at least, a few Republicans have found themselves in the unfamiliar position of being on the offensive over an issue where race is front and center. We ought not to get between them and the other guys because their motives fail to meet some purity test. They may not be fighting for whites, but they are at least fighting against nonwhites.” If I thought we could derail the leftist crazy train by pitching the entire Republican party under the cow catcher, I wouldn’t hesitate for a second.
>>>We’d be better off if everyone shifted their attention to rubbing Minnesotans’ noses in Omar 24/7 until November 2020.<<<
This assumes a majority of Minnesotans don’t want and enjoy having Omar rubbed in their faces 24/7.
A few days ago, Instapundit linked to a tweet, that despite being an obvious, simple metaphor, stuck with me for some reason. It’s by a guy called Wretchard: “PC is like Jonestown on a civilizational scale. There’s enormous social pressure to drink tne Kool Aid. Future archaeologists will be unable to explain what they find.” I think that captures so much. For example, why are libertarians now a joke? Because they finally succumbed and drank the Kool Aid. Corporate America drank the Kool Aid. Most of the Republican Party drank the Kool Aid. And those of us who refuse to… Read more »
Max, “wretchard the cat” is Richard Fernandez who writes The Belmont Club. Part of PJMedia. He’s a brilliant man with an amazing background. He is one of the Good Guys. In my opinion. Z has a link to Belmont Club in his ‘sites I visit’ area above.
The mythical “Red Pill” we keep hearing about.
FYI
Sailer has a post regarding Amy Wax doing a discussion at a comedy club. My curiosity was raised, and I stumbled onto an interview on C-Span.org, that had Brian Lam interviewing her regarding her treatment for noticing that blacks don’t do as well as whites in law school.
The amount of badthink and hate speech was huge!
She even used the phrase “magic dirt”.
I thought the visitors here would enjoy it.
I would post a link but, alas, I am woefully inept regarding these newfangled electric gizmos.
June 5, 2018 Q & A with Amy Wax on c-span.org.
Lots of respect for Wax. Will watch that. Separately, Brian Lamb died recently. Poor guy was so damned simple. He had this incredible platform which he could interview anyone, and the time was mostly wasted. Few follow-up questions, because I don’t think he could actually follow what people were saying, or didn’t care. Typical exchange: Interesting Guy: “…and so the revolution had many unforeseen consequences. A few of which, to my mind, we’ve yet to experience.” Lamb: “How many kids you got?” If I recall, Lamb was just a businessman. Why c-span let him be the interviewer is baffling. Maybe… Read more »
Agree. I kept expecting some question along the lines if “Do you really believe that shit”? from Lamb but it never happened.
I recall him having the official Senate historian admit that the 16th Amm was never ratified, merely “went into effect” and he just let it slide.
What a fucking waste.
Yeah. Brian Lamb, nice guy. Average American neighbor. But like an accounts’ manager interviewing medieval scholars.
Her Jew honesty should shame other Jews into living up to their pretense of being the only hardcore honest humans. By the way, she’d beat the fuck out of Jonah Golberg in a fight.
Brian Lamb made a point of never letting his political leanings show. RIP.
Here’s the link:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?446568-1/qa-amy-wax
Z-Great thought provoking article. How does your brain fire up day in and day out, and put pen to such incite?! Coincidentally, just watched 1942 Keeper of the Flame (Tracy-Hepburn), directed by George Cukor. Look at this script. The playwright, Donald Ogden Stewart, was a member of CPUSA. Cukor was a Hollywood homosexual, actively plying his trade. The Tribe. Yet the scrip could be pasted into today. Look at the projection of the Hollywood and Leftist cabal in 1942. Their projection is Them. Is Now. “Each of these groups was simply to be used until its usefulness was exhausted. Hates… Read more »
The film had good insight into how radicals might subvert a country. It was an attack on “right-wingers” and certainly pleased the commie-loving Roosevelt administration. The pro-Soviet film “Mission to Moscow” was made at the request of Pres. Roosevelt.
Jews did well in pre-War Soviet Union and later dominated for a time post-War Soviet-occupied Poland and Hungary. The Hungarian revolt in 1956 at times resembled a pogrom. They were eventually pushed out of power and the natives regained control of their countries, at least as far as Poles, et al., controlled their countries under Soviet occupation.
Ris; Re USSR & The Tribe doing well: Yes and no. The old Bolsheviks were *disproportionally* but not majority Jewish in some form (ethnically, culturally but not religiously) or other. This was understandable given that local Tsarist officials directed pre-revolutionary popular discontent caused by their own corruption and incompetence into Pogroms against the ‘Yidds’ and away from themselves and the Tsar. Find a scapegoat that is both fiendishly clever and powerful but somehow can’t really fight back: Oldest trick in the world. But ‘Yidds’ or not, Stalin killed almost all the old Bolsheviks in The Great Terror in the 1930s*:… Read more »
“The end point of this is that time when it is natural for white people to say, “Because we live here and this is how we do things.”
You are SOOOO right! This is the goal in a nutshell, and thank you for summing up so succinctly. (This is why I do choose to support this blog — well worth a small monthly outlay. Thank you for your excellent work.)
Nice.This is really a timely post. The subversion and corruption of all of our spiritual, social, cultural and civic institutions along with the ever expanding soft despotic managerial state making you fell about as big as a bug, has striped millions of Americans of their courage and self-confidence. This process has been going on for decades and most people simply don’t understand that they have been enslaved. White people have been hit the hardest, because were the scapegoat. And we still want our masters lies to be true. Morpheus: “The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now,… Read more »
This approaches the level of self evident truth.
A lot of you sound like losers, like you’ve givin up. Fuck that . Fight like a motherfucker till you;re dead. That’s your job. Your ancestors didn’t fight their way thru blood and shit for you to be a pussy.
“You’ll have to carry me out on a slab before I compromise my defense of white people, their greatness, their history, their safety, and the state of Missouri.” Even if you strike the “white people” part it is inconceivable that any white politician would say such a thing. It would be assumed that he implied white people and he would be forced to grovel. —————————————————————————————————– It has gotten to the point that the terms “America” ‘United States of America” or even “the nation” or “the country” have become synonymous in the minds of the SJW Left with whites or white… Read more »
White? Apologize?! Nuh-Uh
We can see this with the farce that the Congressional Black Caucus is the “conscience of Congress”. A sop that is duly repeated, without a snicker or a skeptical word, even as every member is investigated for ethics violations.
To echo the other comments, this is one of your best.
need of external moral standards to justify their desires and their preferences. But to some extent, it IS white to compare tastes or preferences to an external moral standard. The use of reason, objectivity, etc. is a highly “white” thing. Being able to compare X to Y and judge Y is superior based upon objective criteria is very white. It’s why liberals can be accurately classified as crazy for believing (or pretending) rapping about ho’s and murder is equal to listening to Palestrina in the Sistine Chapel. What whites need to do rather than seek approval is simply recognize the… Read more »
Then it’s a fight against Social Media and the MSM that are the principal weapons against us. They function as a amplifier allowing a comparatively handfull of people to terrorize our side at will via doxing, killing off revenue streams, getting people fired, etc. 20 years ago this wasn’t possible. A hard line conservative could say what he wanted in public and he was either ignored or if he was a political figure, the local news would do a 30 second spot on him and waving their finger at him saying what a horrible retrograde person he was. That was… Read more »
i’m afraid i have failed to run this cultural algorithm. i’m still stuck in the mindset that if they want a War then let’s give them one. Keep it simple.
” If whites want to live like white people, they have to prove it is not racist.” The problem is in logic you cannot prove a negative. The Prosecutor/plaintiff has the onus of proof to go forward with the logical positive, which may be a grammatical negative, not the defendant. The same principle applies to any cases under logic. So for example someone claims that xyz is a racist thing or person. Get the nerve to calmly say you or anyone (most people do not know logic anymore) cannot prove a negative could you please be specific with how or… Read more »
Been reading your stuff for awhile Z and have to say this is one of the most spot on postings yet !
That’s true about what you said about white guys today, Z man Many white American feel like Frankenstein who do not belong to living or dead Such as doctor Moreau’s creatures who do not belong animal nor human white guy happen to live in the United States can’t recognize his root any more he doesn’t belong Anglo nor European therefore he has no culture and don’t know who actually he is Its made him a bastard son of America which no one want him its natural to bastard think why he should live or exist at all And all of… Read more »
These white people don’t have a problem validating THEIR choices. I’m betting they’re being in crews already puts them ahead of most here- right?
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/22/if-others-have-rifles-well-have-rifles-why-leftist-groups-are-taking-up-arms
This is of course the Guardian signaling the hive mind to arm their organizations.
They’re already organized.
They already adjusted to violence by street fighting.
Now they’re arming.
Then next they’ll probably start shooting, and the Right will not respond in kind.
? I wonder how many are going to post now that the right wing isn’t violent; The new Dems are the real racists blah blah. ?
Truth is the most important thing for us is permission, that is to say legitimate authority saying GO. We’d better make sure we keep the GOP in the white house. In war no other office matters.
Cuz you ain’t the outlaw, the rebel, the hardscrabble living types.
You aren’t.
Trump 2020, GOP forever as POTUS. Don’t kid yourselves.
If you were gonna do it you would have already,
Its not time yet is eternal.
Don’t kid yourselves.
You need it to be legal.
Vote GOP and hope for the best.
White is a composite of ALL colors. Black is the lack of any colors. Next question dumbheit.
Only when dealing with light. Paint, on the other hand, is a completely different animal – look up additive vs subtractive colors. And this is a ridiculously silly argument to begin with (yeah, yeah, the left uses it, and it’s just as silly).
“….comical example is the sacralization of blacks by conservatives…..” I don’t think it’s comical at all. The more conservative blacks that are in the limelight, the better off the conservative movement will be. After all, blacks can say things that any whites are prohibited or condemned from saying. And maybe these conservative blacks will change the minds of those blacks who 1000000% of the time vote for some communist POS. Blacks have been F’d over forever; even when LBJ said, ” they may be ni**ers, but they are our ni**ers.” Let’s be clear; hispanics and blacks do NOT get along;… Read more »
You believe that we can persuade a significant of non-whites to support conservative or pro-white policies. I have given up on that but I acknowledge that the point at which one gives up is personal.
I have heard outreaches to blacks and Hispanics since Reagan and it has produced nothing because non-whites generally want tribalism and the GOP is not a vehicle for that.
If you are fishing in a part of a pond where the fish rarely bite, at what point do you give up?
LineInTheSand said: “I have heard outreaches to blacks and Hispanics since Reagan and it has produced nothing because non-whites generally want tribalism and the GOP is not a vehicle for that.” Like I’ve said before, the Republican party is just a cluster of exclusive, politically active country clubs. How in the world could they think they would ever appeal to large voting blocks of color? It just boggles the mind. I’d love to see a mob of hebrew israelites show up at some big Republican event and ask around to see if there was anything they could do to help… Read more »
Quality over quantity. We’re not worried about capturing a majority to reform the Empire, we’re looking for a smart fraction to split from it and form the core of something better.