Biological Feudalism

The nature of all human society is that there is an elite that sits atop the society, providing both order and structure to the whole. Because the apple does not fall far from the tree, elites tend to be inherited. The sons and daughters of the ruling class make up the next generation’s ruling class. In Guatemala, for example, a small number of families have controlled the country since the 16th century. Despite what the science deniers will tell you, biology is a real thing and it matters.

In the West, this biological reality has been tempered by an understanding that men of merit can be found in the lower ranks. Cultural pathways evolved for these men to earn their way into the elite. Originally this meant warfare. A great warrior and leader of men could earn his way into the elite. Some of the great aristocratic names of England, for example, were founded by the sword in The Hundred Years War. Later, intellectual and economic prowess became pathways to high status.

Now, in the Middle Ages, as Europe settled into a patchwork of ethnic groups, those pathways were shutoff for people outside the dominant ethnicity. Most obviously, Jews were blocked from holding high offices or ruling over Christians. In the late Roman Empire and into the early Middle Ages, these prohibitions did not exist, so there were very powerful Jews in what is now Italy, Spain and France. They often played a major role in the succession of kings and the naming of bishops.

What came to be the norm in Eurasia is that the ruling elite was biologically of the people over whom it ruled. In the case of conquered people, their elites operated like vassals, reporting to the elite that ruled over them. This is the naturally occurring nationalism that Yoram Hazony promotes for his people. Jews rule over Jewish lands and Jewish people for the good of the Jewish people. Those minority populations that happen to be in the way must sublimate themselves to the interests of Israel.

This is not the model everywhere. In most of the Middle East, a small minority will rule over the rest. The Alawites rule over the much larger tribes in Syria. In Iraq under Saddam Hussein, his tribe, al-Begat, ruled over the rest. His tribe was also of the much smaller Sunni sect. In fact, the history of the Middle East, going back to the classic period, is the story of small groups gaining control over large areas of diverse people, who outnumber their new rulers by significant margins.

South America is another model where the naturally occurring nationalism of Eurasia does not prevail. Throughout South America, the ruling class is very European in appearance and custom. They sit atop a large mixed race population that is often tribal, regional and multilingual. Look at the political elite of these countries and they are very white. In contrast, look at their populations and they resemble what the American Left imagines for Ohio one day. It’s biological feudalism.

This organizational system is why America is being overrun with migrants. In order for biological feudalism to work, the people at the top have to be able to feed and control the population. It’s why revolution has been a feature of South American politics since they broke free from Europe. One faction within the elite takes advantage of the other, by rallying some portion of the swarthy masses that are unhappy. Revolution is really just a family spat over control of the country.

It’s why everyone agrees Venezuela is a problem. There, the coalition of the swarthy actually took over country. You’ll note that in a group photo of South American leaders, Maduro is easy to spot. Granted, there’s a lot of oil and gas to be sucked out of the country by North America firms, but the reason the rest of South America has never embraced the Venezuelan leaders is they represent a threat to the biological feudalism that is the norm in South America.

In order to make biological feudalism work, the people at the top have to be homogeneous and they have to be ruthless. Settling political disputes within a narrow elite works when that narrow elite is what amounts to an extended family. This was what European feudalism relied upon to maintain order. If parts of the elite have loyalties that transcend that of the ruling elite, then fracture is inevitable. People will ruthlessly defend their own from outsiders. It is human nature.

That’s why this model is unlikely to work in America. The ruling elite is too diverse to operate like an extended family. Even in the Imperial Capital, where everyone knows everyone, outside loyalties loom large. At Yoram Hazony’s conference, many of the attendees see America as a resource center for their tribe’s war in the Levant. These are not people who will sacrifice for the good of America or the American elite. Their relationships in Washington are purely transactional.

That’s what you see happening with the Democrat Party. They want to be a coalition that is white presenting at the top, with maybe some token color, and the new coalition of the ascendant at the bottom. The trouble is, they seem to lack the willpower and ruthlessness to do it. They just purged leadership staff because they are too white. The tribes of the coalition don’t know their place and the only way they can know their place is if the ruling elite puts them in their place.

Most likely, the sort of system we will see in the post-national, majority-minority America is one ruled by narrow power centers. Silicon Valley will control the public space, but work with Wall Street, which controls the economy. The intelligence services, with their monopoly of force, will be another power center. These power centers will be controlled by a small number of clans. The farce of modern democracy will simply become a ritual that is managed by these power centers to their own advantage.

Whether or not this is possible is debatable. The dirty secret of South America is their organizational model was just an evolution of the colonial model, supported by North America and Europe. Pull away the support of the home culture and the natives most likely would have eaten their elites a long time ago. The South American system transplanted to North America, without external support, may just quickly devolve into chaos, warlordism and then old fashioned authoritarianism.


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Bion the Lesser
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Bion the Lesser

Who does Z consider to be the ruling elite factions in US society and how do they define their interests? Jews, obviously, but that’s been discussed as nauseum. What others? Are there any comparable forces?

Carl B.
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Carl B.

The graduating classes of Harvard and Yale.

Bion the Lesser
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Bion the Lesser

Yeah but that’s 80% redundant with the one mentioned

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Harvard and Yale may have overplayed their hand. I don’t get the sense that being a “Harvard graduate” gets anywhere near the respect that it once did. This may have something to do with makeup of the graduating classes (as Zman pointed out) , but I think it also likely has a component that comes from the “working class” coming into much closer contact with said Harvard graduates on a personal level – in places like the high tech industry. And then coming away less than impressed with those Harvard grads. Harvard in particular doesn’t get anywhere near the respect… Read more »

Marko
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Marko

I daresay “Good Will Hunting” started it all

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Harvard has been a thing long before Good Will Hunting ever got made.

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

I’ve worked with Harvard grads. They’re very good at taking your name off of documents and putting their name on documents and then presenting them as original ideas and analysis. If you ever work with them, always use the “restrict editing” function on your documents.

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

Good cautionary story. At EBMUD, the big Bay Area water company, as a treatment operator, my senior operator cautioned me to not talk to the engineers. For any new treatment process project, the engineers would swoop in like vultures from the mothership Oakland admin building and pick the fertile brains of the treatment operators about how to pull the project together. Then the downtown engineers would claim all credit for said project. The smart boy treatment ops got sick of that and said, “Your on Your own, Buddy…think your way out of this one.”

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Z always references the legacy WASP elite when the topic comes up. But with that being said, they at least shared a sense of obligation towards the lower classes. The (((tribe))) has zero.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

MemeWarVet said: “Z always references the legacy WASP elite when the topic comes up. But with that being said, they at least shared a sense of obligation towards the lower classes. The (((tribe))) has zero.” “Noblesse oblige.” Here’s the Wiki link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noblesse_oblige

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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No – the Tribe has Noblesse Malice. Its an actual mandate.

But that’s any tribe.
That’s why peaceful Tribal Nations are usually ruled by Kings or Empires. Even today Jordan, Morocco are tribal nations ruled successfully by Kings.

Ancient Israel was ruled by Kings. Modern Israel is Sparta complete with Helots. Maniacally Globalist Jews think that includes the world.

Mind you that Noblesse Malice is now the ethos of our ruling class – but that’s because they’re empty. As are it appears so many.
No God, No Family, No Country.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉: “No – the Tribe has Noblesse Malice. Its an actual mandate.” Pay attention ” vxxc.” “MemeWarVet” and I were talking about the WASPs having “a sense of obligation towards the lower classes.”

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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I was talking to Meme War Vet – not you – wastrel.

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“Ancient Israel was ruled by Kings”

Objection, supposes facts not in evidence,

“Ancient Israel”?

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“The (((tribe))) has zero.”

Worse than that. The tribe sees white flyover people as a threat

Exile
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Exile

As a first-pass filter look at the student rosters of the top schools in the College Guide over two to three generations, then look at who occupies the prime Catherdral seats in government, finance, media and academia. You’ll see family and personal connections between a coalition of Jews and well-placed goys along with their loyal apparatchiks who’ve proven their loyalties. The government bloc seems largely monolithic, pace Q-Anon chess-strategies about military vs. Deep State factionalism. Same with finance, media and academia. Z’s recent post about the future rise of Caesarist/Peronist personality cults points to where the present shaky monolith will… Read more »

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

A Neo-Feudal system of the type Z describes can only be birthed into existence if useful idiots help make the case for it. This is why the likes of Charlie Kirk are so important to the Globalists.

Carl B.
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Carl B.

Quote: “The South American system transplanted to North America, without external support, may just quickly devolve into chaos, warlordism and then old fashioned authoritarianism.”

Or maybe that New Age/Manson Family refugee (((Marianne Wiliamson))) will take the reins of power and hand out free Magic Crystals and Unicorns to the millions of low-IQ vibrants and the ever-dwindling number of brain-dead Whites. And all will live happily ever after wrapped in a warm blanket of love.

Something has gotta happen because this insane asylum called America can’t continue too much longer.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Carl B. said: “Something has gotta happen because this insane asylum called America can’t continue too much longer.” Ha! Ya ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Communism: The Leading Ideological Cause of Death in the 20th Century. https://www.theepochtimes.com/communism-the-leading-ideological-cause-of-death-in-the-20th-century_2212529.html

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Please don’t blame the atheists.
Who are they driven to conquer the world for, the Easter Bunny?
They don’t care.

Pastors imprisoned and ‘physically interrogated’ in Communist Romania give us a clue as to the true nature of this different set of ((atheists)). They report Satanic-styled rituals by their interrogators.

The Warsaw Bloc was *ahem* ethnically overrepresented in its elites.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

(As were the “fellow white people” slaveowner class in the Confederacy, who sought to expand into New Spain during the Revolutions of 1848, and a short generation later, as Kapitalism, income tax, alcohol tax, all were tried when Abe Lincoln was tricked like Woodrow Wilson was.

Inefficient chattel liens and slave labor costs were chucked under the bus in favor of industrial finance Kapitalism, pittance wages, and the Company store.)

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Its not yet an insane asylum.
We should not let it be.

You all don’t appear to know the difference between a corrupt state and elite vs a failed state.
You may be spared.
Or not.
Perhaps we should not remain passive about our fate.

Dutch
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Dutch

Looks like a great argument for living in Nowheresville in a community of like minded people and having a good skill set.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Worked great for Cliven Bundy, Randy Weaver, and David Koresh!

Dutch
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Dutch

Life’s a risk, you takes your chances.

I think I am a cultural separatist. I want nothing to do with a culture that lifts up Marianne Williamson and her crystals. I want as much psychic and physical distance as possible. Engagement with those people is simply not worth my time.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

So you’re embracing the “Benedict Option,” I take it?

Dutch
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Dutch

Looks like I am.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

More power to you if you can make it work.

That being said, most of us born from ‘64-forward don’t have the financial resources to acquire acreage and an Arsenal. There’s significant cost barriers to entering the “middle of nowhere” club.

Dutch
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Dutch

The cost is tricky, but also the making it work. It’s family, work, commutes, travel, all the disruptions it causes. Property taxes, security when I am not there, me as the new neighbor, distrust of outsiders, so many things. Each situation is different and YMMV. Think about it now and start shaping aspects of your life accordingly, over time. Watch for opportunities. The 2008 crash both showed me the need and gave me the shot at land I could not otherwise afford, through a short sale/imminent foreclosure on a weird property, as far as the banks holding the notes were… Read more »

Penitent Man
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Penitent Man

MemeWarVet,

Take a listen to Jack Spirko’s survival podcast for ways to live well and cheaply… and as sufficiently as possible.

You’ll have to sus out all the naive libertarian drivel (bless his heart) but there’s some good information to be had there for free.

It may take less to get to where and how you want, than you think. Once you’re setup then you can decide what level of political/social involvement you want.

Carrie
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Agree with Penitent.
Love Spirko (except for this “I’m a Deist” stuff.)
Been listening to him since at least 2016. He knows his stuff.

Lineman
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Lineman

@Meme
If there is a will there is a way…I had a Brother move out here from Baltimore with a wife and three kids and they both work in the service industry…I asked them how they did it and they said if it’s your priority it will happen for you…

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

I like having the more harmless people similar to Marianne Williamson around and I’m not interested in returning the US to Christendom under any but the most dire circumstances There are a lot of secularists like me by the way who simply don’t give a crap for organized religion and suspect than in any form likely to exist now may well be far more harmful than the crystal wavers whose worse flaw is that most of them vote Democrat This will lead to a fight and it’s one of the prime tensions preventing any kind of organized dissident right from… Read more »

BadThinker
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BadThinker

If the options are a resurgent muscular Christianity or a survival of the fittest Ragnar Redbeard / Ayn Rand, I’m going to take Christianity every time.

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

I’d say survival of the fittest is pretty dire but I get your point Christendom if it reoccurs is about a century and change out though. It will happen once the catabolic collapse is finished and the differential reproduction rates (secular people typical, max 2, Amish typical max 6) gets to be enough That said I see no purpose in sustaining “civilization” as we know it since its an existential hazard to human existence and the few things that it could do that are amazing , radical life extension , disease cures and an asteroid shield seem a lot less… Read more »

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

The Bundys made a successful stand. Partially because they had serious firepower and partially because the government did not want to turn it into another Waco.

Lineman
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Lineman

Well that and some things were coming to light about the Chinese and Mr Reid’s son…

Exile
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Exile

If there were thousands of normal, decent people invoved with any of those incidents, they could not have been taken down by overt force. We need numbers and patience (and we need to avoid vanguardism and fringey behavior) to make Dutch’s plan work. He’s on the right track.

Lineman
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Lineman

@Exile
Amen on that and you start having the power to start making your voices heard which will in turn inspire more people to either start their own or come into yours…I wish I had more wealth because then I would be a lot further along than what I am…I’m really glad this kind of thinking is gaining traction…When I first started talking about it back in 2010 it wasn’t really even on anyone’s radar now you have even survivalist talking about the need for tribe/Community instead of isolation and hiding away…Which is a wonderful thing…

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

Had Cliven Bundy not been so bloody minded as to refuse to pay his small vig to the Feds would have been left alone. Is this fair or right? perhaps not but it wasn’t crippling or onerous Being that someone as much of a crank as he is was politically and religiously able to assemble an army of militia ready to go speaks pretty well of him Now the one guy who was shot in that mess Lavoy Finicum was shot by State police not the Feds and caught on camera saying basically “You’ll never take me alive.” like stuff… Read more »

Lineman
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Lineman

@AB
The Bundy thing was more complicated than just him not paying a fee…It had to do with land use and the ability of ranchers to use it…

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

True

I’m a bit ambivalent on the land use issues myself

To respond to range from fault frankly don’t give a fig about the ranchers or their subculture and its concerns since they are too few in number to matter to me.

Maybe the Feds own too much land, maybe they don’t but I’d rather they own it than a bunch of private concerns

Member

I hate to break it to you:
The “Feds” are a bunch of private concerns.

Next you’ll be telling us that you believe in “National Security”

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

Sure. National security is border and trade control. It exists but we don’t have it. And the the Federal government basically holding land unused or used for Government purposes is quite different than development for say a casino or more immigrant housing This doesn’t mean that the Feds own too much land, they probably do but how that is resolved requires a bit of thought and if i had my way would be tied to population reduction and homogenization This way we can take the existing unoccupied lands that are already developed and use them instead of spreading out like… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

Bundy had a righteous cause and a long-running family-wide grievance with personal undertones with the local Fed-Stasi, but as Charlottesville has hopefully taught us, until we have large numbers, local clout and sufficient institutional support, going Bundy Ranch will just get you Tank-Manned. We need to bite our tongues and lay down on some bullshit while we build our strength – a (((proven))) strategy for dissidents.

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

Dear AB….I respectfully but strongly disagree. You do not understand the politics and relationship of Western States to our managerial overlords and you have a cursory knowledge of the Bundy fracas. You write thought-out arguments, and in this case I hope to augment your thin knowledge of the West vs. The Feds. A thumb-nail sketch of the Bundy matter: https://www.hcn.org/articles/opinion-as-a-rancher-i-see-failure-on-both-sides-of-the-bundy-trial https://www.tsln.com/news/finicum/ AB…..you’re talking horseshit on the LaVoy Finicum “Never take me alive” meme and you’ve bought in to a full on lie. So read up on reality: http://www.rangemagazine.com/features/summer-16/range-su16-sr-patterns_of_harassment.pdf “What do we make of the latest twist in the saga of… Read more »

Lineman
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Lineman

@RFF
Thanks hon I just didn’t have it in me to write all that out and am glad you made the effort…Wish people would do a little more due diligence on things like that to find out what the truth really was not what they heard on the news…

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

You betcha Red Rider.

Dutch
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Dutch

As has been said in more than one place, people are appalled at how the things they know about are reported, and then blindly accept the reporting on things they don’t know about.

RFF, thanks for the detail. I have heard bits and pieces, and you pull it all together.

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

I grew up in the Rocky Mountain West and partially in rural Wyoming as well . Population 300 or so among oil workers, truckers , miners and the like As for Finicum , I heard the recordings and while its possible they were out of context , the same stubborn nature can easily get a man shot It’s a natural consequence of being around armed people and acting squirrely. Was it fair, legal or moral? Fuck if I know, It was what it was. White people get shot all the time and we don’t have enough group conscience to care… Read more »

Rod1963
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Rod1963

They were fine until the Feds barged in.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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You don’t need nowhereville. They’re already all over. If you want to have a safe and decent place to live there are many communities in America that are – but it requires work. The Men sit on local school boards, attend town meetings, are active in the local community, and attend the local gun club. They are often landlords or in touch with the local landlords. They are friendly and supportive of the police- their neighbors who watch over the town full time. They hire the local judge as their lawyer for legal work. The school board makes sure their… Read more »

CAPT S
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CAPT S

I live in Nowheresville, and let me tell you, Nowheresville is in deep trouble. Good skill set? Today that means simply showing up to work, maybe even on-time. I ran for county office once – our demographic is 90% Scots-Irish stock – and the biggest complaint from employers was finding a reliable, functional working-class; i.e. people under-40 with a semblance of loyalty. They weren’t asking for high-skills or workaholics, just people who will show up (somewhat sober) at 8am and deliver reasonable labor till 5pm. My little empirical study demonstrated that my particular Nowheresville is riddled with meth, highly dysfunctional… Read more »

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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CAPT B,

Take it back.

SamlAdams
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SamlAdams

Both sides of my family are from those “Nowhere-ville” areas in the Midwest, settled there after the Revolution on land grants given to them for military service. Most have left, but meth and opiates have ravaged many of these towns. One cousin helps manage about 20k acres of cropland straddling two states–the problems with meth cookers and other drug vagrants holing up on abandoned farm buildings on their acreage got so bad he got a CCW after walking up on some of these people. In many of these places a 10 generation work ethic has been destroyed in one.

Marko
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Marko

That is the best option for white ethnats in the US. They would have to build a new community and not allow the MSM to come in and poke around; let the community speak for itself. Though the community would have to play the optics game, unfortunately. Otherwise the MSM or other journos would say they’re some kind of cult, or compound, or worse. Yes, they’d probably say that no matter what, but I think Patrick Casey’s optics practices for AIM could be successfully applied to a white separatist community.

Lineman
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Lineman

@Dutch
Sure does Brother 😉
Let me know anyone when you want a tour of my AO to see if it’s the right fit for you…I’ve done all the research so you can make a informed decision on rather or not you want to move here…

Mike_C
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Mike_C

“argument for living in Nowheresville in a community of like minded people” I see your point and can sympathize, but the problem with retreating to Nowheresville and hoping that they leave you alone is: It Doesn’t Work. To paraphrase this fella called Jericho Green, “I keep wanting to be done with the Left, but it won’t be done with me.” I want these lunatics and enemies of the West (and note well that our so-called Elite is full of enemies of the West [1]) driven from the public space in shame, humiliation and ruin. Am I personally doing anything heroic… Read more »

Lineman
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Lineman

@Mike C I see your point and can sympathize, but the problem with retreating to Nowheresville and hoping that they leave you alone is… Regrouping so you can fight is a whole different ball game that retreating hoping to be left alone…I’ve never advocated for hiding out always I have been for building up and out…Let me pose it like this does a military ever not have a base to work from…Do they get their supplies from the area they are trying to conquer/or subdue besides a little scrounging from the battlefield after victory…If we aren’t looking at this fight… Read more »

Screwtape
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Screwtape

Yes, when anti-white animus is the only unifying force among the the ascendant POC rulers, there will be few iterations before babies are tossed into volcanoes to please the climate change gods (again).

I guess thats one thing the left has in common with the right: a lack of willpower and ruthlessness necessary to ensure the survival of their people.

Silver lining in there somewhere.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

Whites Lefties are insane and evil. They also don’t see they are cutting a deal with people who will eat their fat asses the moment they get power. Look at AOC and her “squad”. Totally full of hate and power hungry. When that old hag f**ks up they will take her slot and that will be the end of the ruling whites in Congress.

This is why Zman’s model is wrong. The orcs won’t play with a bunch of stupid geriatric whites when they can simply take it from them.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

That screed approaches poetry in its stark beauty.

Member

My reading of it is that he said it won’t work here, either. No argument here at all.

Member

One other factor that will cause North America to differ from South America is the large number of sub-continent Indians who live in the U.S. and Canada. I just moved to the Detroit suburbs (temporarily) and the number of Indians is jaw-dropping. They have their own tribes and clans and will create their own elites.

UFO
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UFO

Yes, people really must wake up to the “Indian threat”… these people are like locusts. Once one gets in HR, the entire department becomes Indians. They spend their whole lives in a desperate fight against other ethnic groups (in India), and when they apply that to whites it’s not even a close match. Their business systems are so complex and different that we wouldn’t even be able to understand, involving relatives, living quarters, religion, and corruption. For instance, a trucking company has one brother as a mechanic, who stays at home and fixes the trucks for the company. The company… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Future Canada as the Raj, but with Anglandistani King Akhbar’s troops instead of the Queen’s.

Yes, they’re getting some serious attitude here too.

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When whites start treating family the way Asians do we will be perfectly competitive.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

A lot of the European monarchies were inbred clowns. There’s a series I’ve been watching occasionally on Netflix called The Last Czar – I know they don’t have the history completely correct , but as far as it goes it makes a pretty good case that Czar Nicholas was not fit to rule – Romanov Dynasty be damned. And his son was a hemophiliac who was unlikely to live very long. I’ve never had any belief that the “elites” were biologically superior enough to be allowed to “rule” simply based on their societal position. Sorry – but the history of… Read more »

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Felix_Krull

A lot of the European monarchies were inbred clowns.

Perhaps, but they still rule us to this day. Not only in the throne-and-scepter sense, but their dynasties are deeply ingrained in the ruling elites discussed above. Ursula von der Leyen, the new dictator of Europe, is of royal stock – a cadet branch of a cadet branch, but still a Strato-Cloud Person whose family have not worked in twenty generations, except for fun or ambition.

S18-1000
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S18-1000

Please be patient, I’m slow sometimes. This is the part I always get hung up on. How do the elites see this ending, and why are they doing this at all? That’s what I can’t figure. I get the replacement migration, discouraging whites from having kids while incentivizing non-whites to have kids, displacing whites from leadership roles and their voice and influence in government, seeing countries like the U.S. as only a resource to exploit; that I and all of us know. I know *what* they’re doing, but can’t really wrap my head around *why*, or what they see when… Read more »

Carl B.
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Carl B.

If you watched Robert Mueller’s performance in front of Congress last week or the Democrat “debates” last night you can only come to one conclusion:

Our “elites” are intellectually dull, separated from Real Life, corrupt, and if not outright stupid, they are insane.

Flash
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Flash

Agreed. Except that they all are batshit crazy. Insane is too mild a description.

CAPT S
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CAPT S

You’re thinking like a rational human being … and THAT’S the problem. These people run the gamut from Machiavellian narcissist to sociopath, and that’s why we can’t make sense of their end-game, because the end-game is simply to destroy all that is good, true, and beautiful. Here’s my test: go to an “elite” and show a picture of a wholesome-looking white family … that’s man & woman who seem to love each other, with cheerful towhead children by their side. Ten-to-one that photo will drive the “elite” batshit crazy. They’re sociopaths, and their end-game is tear that picture into 10,000… Read more »

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Yes.

c matt
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c matt

It somewhat puzzles me as well, but the “elites” you see in public (Pelosi, et al) are really second, maybe even third tier elites. I think you have the goal half right – the 1st Tier Elites (“1TE”, the ones funding everything with OPM) want to be and likely will be the ruling 1%. Whether 1TE have a white or POC 2TE or 3TE probably doesn’t matter as much to them. 1TE certainly care not a whit for the 99% mystery meat utopia – that is not a goal, but a bait for the switch. Also, once the 99% are… Read more »

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

The Lion King perfectly illustrates the two mindsets involved.

1. You have the hyenas, stupid, violent, and low trust. They are the true believers. Who think lion privilege is keeping them down.

2. You have Scar. He knows better but he wants power. He expresses the same attitude that Satan has. They prefer to reign in Hell instead of being average in Heaven.

Exile
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Exile

With a small percentage of (((exceptions))), these folks aren’t multi-generational planners. They’re Decadents, hedonist atheists with short horizons which don’t go beyond their immediate offspring at best (post-Boomers would argue that Hillary’s generation didn’t really give a damn about them, either).

Go Along, Get Along, Get Laid, Get Paid is the whole of their creed, and virtue-signalling is their catechism.

Ultra-Pasteurized
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Ultra-Pasteurized

I used to think about this all the time.

Then I finally adopted two points and moved on to new business.

First, ((overriding neurotic paranoia combined with a racially suppremisist genetic heritage/ideology/religion.))

Second, all elites just aren’t that smart and they’re totally cushioned from reality.

This explains enough to me so I can do my work.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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The Elite live at parties and in the immediate. They fear loss of control over us then the mystery meat eating them- which they will.

Its basically the Melian dialogue with us as the Melians. They fear loss of Empire over us now more than a distant possible downfall.

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Anybody looking at the crowd who hung around with Epstein – even after his conviction- would have to conclude that they are batshit crazy, totally divorced from reality and morally corrupt to the point of evil.

No Either/Or.

Lineman
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Lineman

Because deep down they are suicidal but they want everyone else to go first…

Rogeru
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Rogeru

I think most just enjoy the game, they’re highly competitive people and there’s no bigger competition than the “game of thrones “. The excitement of playing takes precedence over thoughts of the future.

c matt
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c matt

Reading the foregoing comments, part of the difficulty of getting why they do what they do is that the “whys” are many and varied, and even the same elite will have different motivations at different times. Just about each comment above pointed to a motivation/explanation that is held by at least some, probably most of them at one point or another.

In other words, lots of different whys, some even arguable incompatible. But cog dis never slowed them down.

Prussian
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Prussian

I think this is the closest Hollywood ever came to accurately describing modern reality (it’s also fun to imagine Mr. Trump playing the role of Mr. Beale, immediately after his election, but I think his behavior is largely of product of his being a reality-TV star buffoon): https://americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/moviespeechnetwork4.html I think profit and power incentives are driving the elite to globalism, to global open market and global plutocracy. The elite across the economy and big government (I think the latter is basically subservient to the former, especially since elites bounce back and forth from leadership in the economy and big business… Read more »

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Felix_Krull

How do the elites see this ending?

Brazil.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Krull: Brazil, the movie.

Badthinker
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Badthinker

My wife will never forgive me for making her watch the directors cut. She’s a sensitive soul.

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

Just watched the movie, The Elite Squad not too long ago. Coupled with The City of God, which seemed like a liberal attempt to stir up sympathy for “those poor people”, that is a future we want to avert.

I would definitely recommend the former movie though. If you like stories about men who act like men in the face of evil and its enablers, you will enjoy The Elite Squad.

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Felix_Krull

I would definitely recommend the former movie though.

Thanks.

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ReturnofBestGuest

It’s a good question. Either the elites are stupid (some are); uninformed (also true of many); or downright evil in the sense that any orthodox Christian would recognize. It’s probably all three in various parts and combinations. Once “noticing” became the unpardonable sin, all sorts of mischief got a pass and much actual crime was excused. Now few dare call it out. Certainly no politician.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Re: ” They just purged leadership staff because they are too white ”

This line from the linked article cracked me up:

Nobody wants to see whites take up identity politics or demand a certain quota of jobs anywhere.

Says who? I guess I must know an awful lot of people who are nobodies.

Dutch
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Dutch

Everything they do encourages whites to take up identity politics. They are doing our work for us, up to a point.

Lineman
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@Dutch
Exactly right Brother now we need to be giving those that are now awake a positive direction and encouragement of what a white ethnostate would do for them…Now that’s hilarious or hideous that the word ethnostate is underlined because my phone doesn’t like it…

Unknownsailor
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Unknownsailor

What will a white ethnostate do for them?

Start with indoor plumbing, and go up from there.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

I can’t help but wonder if the author of that piece has been reading Z, and even scarier, Z’s comments section.

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I am an American White Anglo Saxon and prefer to associate with White Anglo Saxons. My inclination is to refuse participation in anything other than my own self interest. Whatever our society or culture is at this point in time it is being constantly bombarded by communist progressives in concert with the many tribes that I am not a member of. It is not enough to simply insulate my existence from those outside influences. They must be destroyed one way or another. F¥€£ the elites and the horse they rode in on. Everything points to an ethno state. The ticks… Read more »

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I’m not seeing it. Feudalism is inefficient and unprofitable. That is why it gave way to imperialism. We may pass through a brief period of violent ethnic cleansing and biological feudalism, but a new elite will rise out of that to build the next empire. I am guessing that race realities will re-assert themselves too: blacks will go back to being slaves, servants, and criminals. Useful ethnics will be put in charge of their fellows and put to work in service of the new empire. People often forget that whites were slaves and peons for the great empires too. This… Read more »

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Citizen of a Silly Country

The Dem elite have two problems that will make a South American model impossible. First, the elite is too diverse to hold. Jews and their white goy lap dog made a huge error allowing in Indians and to a lessor degree NE Asians and Muslims. If they’d kept immigration to just Hispanics, they could have created a California-style system for the whole country, i.e. Jews and whites running the show on the back of lethargic Hispanic voters with a nod to the Asians. But you’re already seeing Indians becoming a force in national politics. NE Asians and Muslims will follow… Read more »

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Only Indians? What about the other diversities – East Asians, Moslems, etc. In southeast Asian, there are a large number of ethnic Chinese businesspeople in Malaysia, Indonesia and the Phillippines. Many ethnic Indian professionals also live in Malaysia, and businesspeople in East Africa. So, the idea of a group of people living in a country for generations with zero allegiance to the host and only loyal to themselves and their homelands is hardly unique. On top of that, there are Hispanics who dream of a reconquista of the American southwest and Moslems who want to turn this country into Moslem… Read more »

Rod1963
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Rod1963

Spot on.

One thing about the Muslims and Hindus in our political class is that they really, really hate whites and can’t keep it to themselves.

These two groups are already overplaying their hands even though they are a tiny minority in this country and kept in power by stupid whites.

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miforest

spent a little time in the furthest backwoods of Appalachian KY last week. its easy to see this happening . the population is plummeting and the percentage of abandon houses is comparable to Detroit, where I now live . All the independent stores are gone, run out by family dollar and dollar general stores small enough to git in a 2 car garage. They can’t be profitable, but the are corporate. almost all the coal mines are closed. Since the area has more poverty in Detroit that should be the last blow to kill their economy. That will get the… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

White pill – imagine the American Sardaukar cheerfully nationalizing that Han largesse when the right day arrives. Pixel-currency is one thing, but physical facilities are subject to molon labe rules.

Monty James
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“The South American system transplanted to North America, without external support, may just quickly devolve into chaos, warlordism and then old fashioned authoritarianism.”

I like to think that in the years to come we will remember who did this to us, but I’m blackpilled after reading this, so I doubt we will.

Exile
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Exile

Whites with a much lower tech legacy built Notre Dame on a foundation of chaos, warlordism and authoritariansim. Cheer up, White Man. We’re the best-suited for those kind of times, we just need to use our K-selection skills to recognize, prepare and adapt for the threat.

Vegetius
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Vegetius

The conquest of this hemisphere was achieved by small numbers of whites skillfully maneuvering between other groups who did not see themselves as members of a larger racial family: playing them off against each other, allying now with this one against that one, and so on.

The reconquest of North America will be achieved in much the same way, or it will not be achieved at all.

King Tut
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King Tut

A relatively small number of whites who believed that they had a manifest destiny. At the time of the Napoleonic wars, Britain had a population of around 16 million.

Exile
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Exile

The sheer size of the American proletariat and the factionalism of our elites will present tons of opportunities for American dissidents if and when we learn how to effectively organize by means other than major internet bottlenecks like Twitter & Faceberg. The post-Stalinist Soviet Union seemed monolithic from this side of the Cold War but it was deeply divided by sheer size, population, serious ethnic chauvanisms and the ambitions and machinations of a huge coterie of apparatchiks. Many of us will remember the talking heads’ armchair Sovietology which accompanied every Premier change – Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko and Gorbachev all came… Read more »

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You can have biological feudalism in your own town. If you want to have a safe and decent place to live there are many communities in America that are – but it requires work. The Men sit on local school boards, attend town meetings, are active in the local community, and attend the local gun club. They are often landlords or in touch with the local landlords. They are friendly and supportive of the police- their neighbors who watch over the town full time. They hire the local judge as their lawyer for legal work. The school board makes sure… Read more »

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Dutch

I am calling it cultural separation combined with localism. The strange thing is that it is exactly what the upper middle class white-with-some-Asian communities practice in their own way. But so many of the people in those local communities, especially the women and younger people, vote for and support the people and ideas that would take it all away from them and destroy it all. I have come to believe that people create a fictional universe in their minds, and only a dose of brutal reality, and the cognitive dissonance that said reality will generate, has a chance of shifting… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

Exactly what I’ve been calling for as well. Not some kind of LARPy distopia-civil war scenario but simply forming normal neighborhoods, then towns in a state or states where the Empire is either disinterested or weak. Then we live our lives, grow our numbers and bide our time while those of us who can do what we can when we can to throw a wrench into Emperor Kamela’s works without bringing down the thunder.

Dutch
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Dutch

“Nowheresville” can be out in the sticks or in the middle of town. Personally, out in the sticks works better for me. Making sure the Empire is not aware or is disinterested is vital. Lay low.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Yes. It will work anywhere the men do man up and plant roots- or have them.

Remember our great advantage; their cowards.
We’re intrinsically not cowards.

Lineman
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Lineman

@Exile
Yep spot on Brother…

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South American politics has also shown us that throwing Leftists from helicopters works.

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TomA

Yes to all of this, but there are overriding circumstances that will determine the outcome of our future societal evolution. The first, and most significant, is that we are now declining as a species, losing our ancestral robustness, and becoming fragile and bloated. Second, modern communications technology is enabling memetic infection and indoctrination on a scale as never before experienced. The weakest among us are destined to become hive-minded worker drones and the renegades that do not conform will be purged as a disease. In this model, the elites can only survive via totalitarianism, which is why that is inevitable.

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The real motivation of the leftist ruling class is a preference to be kings over a shithole than be an average Joe in paradise.

Dutch
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Dutch

Status, relative to your peers and your neighbors, is entirely underrated as a motivation for people.

Yves Vannes
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From the Pleistocene to the First World War the elite where first in public displays of piety and manners, their young men were first in war leading their men into battle(officers died at a higher rate). They provided and oversaw a social milieu that allowed other castes to function and for talented members to blossom. During the past 2 or 3 centuries this arrangement has been in steady decay. This decay accelerated after WWI. We now have an unnatural elite. They are parasitical, myopic, mercenary and insular. The pursuit of mammon and power are their only ideals. They engage in… Read more »

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I think it first become popular for the elite to hate their own culture during the French Revolution, and that view is reinforced in our elite universities which one must attend to join the ruling class. We need an elite that believe in a non-destructive religion. Our current elite’s religion is essentially cultural Marxism. Without some cultural Renaissance where we rediscover some lost wisdom, the future doesn’t seem very promising.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Yves Vannes said: “We now have an unnatural elite. They are parasitical, myopic, mercenary and insular. The pursuit of mammon and power are their only ideals.” Hmmm. Where have I heard that before? “The Fate of Empires – Sir John Glubb.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBLPDfu8XGQ

Yves Vannes
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Thanks for the link. Interesting.

I picked up that sentiment from reading Ammianus Marcellinus.

History does seem to rhyme a lot.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Yves Vannes said: ” History does seem to rhyme a lot. ” Indeed. Human Nature and the laws of the Universe. There’s no escape.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Side note: I could never quite grasp “shit test”. ‘Conformity test’ makes the concept and the underlying primate mechanics perfectly clear. Thanks!

Anotheranon
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Anotheranon

Barbara especially was the keeper of the Bush flame, carefully guarding the Bush “legacy”. Or as Trump would say, the Bush “brand”. She would cringe at someone as crass as Trump passing public judgement on the sacred Bush family and its “generations of service to the nation”. That was what was so utterly devastating about Trump smacking down Jeb and Junior during the debates. Epic. To use Zman’s analogy, it was the moment the entire Roman stadium saw Maximus threw spears landing square on the Emperor’s reviewing stand – and the crowd roared with exhilaration. (1:10). https://youtu.be/W9tcswoomvM The Bushes can’t… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Ha ha! Now THAT was an unexpected delight!

It should be followed up with
“Maximus! Maximus, the Merciful!”
His dazed opponent, awaiting the fatal blow…

(Too bad it’s only a movie! But still…)

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Z Man said: “In Guatemala, for example, a small number of families have controlled the country since the 16th century. Despite what the science deniers will tell you, biology is a real thing and it matters.” Sweet! So if the descendants of the White Christian Conquistadors are still in charge of latin America, why the hell don’t we just go down there and pour a couple of tanker truck loads of blue eye DNA into the upper echelons, and before you can say “bend over baby”, the honky’s have the whip hand. Hey, it’s worth a try. Anybody got a… Read more »

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OBT wrote:
“So if the descendants of the White Christian Conquistadors are still in charge of latin America…”

Look more closely. Some of those countries’ elites are not Christian.

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Official Bologna Tester

roo_ster said: “Look more closely. Some of those countries’ elites are not Christian.” Before the spanish showed up there weren’t any Christians at all. Proselytize man proselytize!

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Official Bologna Tester

I said: “Proselytize man proselytize!” Hahaha! That’s wounderful. 2 down votes for doing nothing about the problem. Well, if your going to moan about there not being enough Christians in South American leadership. Well then, I guess somebody needs to go down and talk to them about it. Yes?

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Marranos and conversos had to go somewhere. I’ve noticed that too, suspected it, but didn’t look closely.
I bet I won’t be surprised at the extent..

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Brazilian chicks… O.M.G.

Sir! May I volunteer first to serve our glorious nation!!
Conquistadudes– with me!

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

You know, we really have no right to object to our women fantasizing about black men if we drool over Latinas.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

The Last Stand said: “You know, we really have no right to object to our women fantasizing about black men if we drool over Latinas.” Who said anything about latinas? I’m talking Hispanics. The direct descendants of the Spaniards. ( No indian blood ) Anyway, I’m not talking about love. Simply a transfer of fluids.

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

Brazilians are Latino, not Hispanic, since they are result of coupling between the Portuguese and the native tribes.

At least learn the history of the group you fetishize. You will be more successful in your attempt to remove your descendants from the white gene pool.

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Official Bologna Tester

The Last Stand said: “Brazilians are Latino, not Hispanic… At least learn the history of the group you fetishize.” Hahaha! Whoa! Slow down there little buckaroo. First of all, I didn’t say crap about the brazilians. Now did I ? If you go back and read my original post, it was a response to something the Z Man had said. Which was this. Z Man said: “In Guatemala, for example, a small number of families have controlled the country since the 16th century. Despite what the science deniers will tell you, biology is a real thing and it matters.” And… Read more »

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

I noticed you deliberately left out your link. Of course since that link has the phrase, “Brazilian women” in it, that is understandable.

That leaves us with 2 possibilities. In addition to being a traitor with a fetish for foreigners, you are either a liar or a moron who does not pay attention to his own posts.

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Official Bologna Tester

The Last Stand said: “In addition to being a traitor with a fetish for foreigners, you are either a liar or a moron who does not pay attention to his own posts.” Hahaha! Temper temper sweet pea, you’ll blow your tampon. You know, fanatics come in all shapes and sizes. And their numbers in America are growing exponentially. And one of the prime attributes of a fanatic, is that they are impervious to humor. Another tall tail sign of the fanatic is they all suffer from Monomania. A pathological preoccupation with a single thing or idea. You see these kinds… Read more »

King Tut
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King Tut

No progress will be made until the word “racist” is neutralised and that can only be done by taking the word and adopting it as a badge of pride.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

King Tut said: ” No progress will be made until the word “racist” is neutralised and that can only be done by taking the word and adopting it as a badge of pride. ” Wow! Hahaha! Good luck with that. Just how in the hell would you go about transforming the worlds number one scare word into a fluffy, Benign compliment? I swear to god man. If you could pull that s**t off, millions of White people all over America would stand up, put their hands over their hearts and say, ” I pledge allegiance to King Tut, immortal leader… Read more »

King Tut
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King Tut

OBT, but is not true? Are we not racists? Ok, just try this: next time someone on the interwebs calls you racist just say, “yes. So?” See what happens.

Dave
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Dave

Racism is essential to long-term survival. If you don’t think your DNA is any better than that of some naked African living in a mud hut, why have children? You’ll adopt his children instead, and your anti-racism will die with you.

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

American culture is different in that it imparts magical qualities on “persons of color.” Nearly every Hollywood movie reinforces this concept. Some are completely about this. A magic, wrongfully accused negro in The Green Mile, who could be a redeemer. The very establishment that’s supposed to “put these people in their places” considers them to be earthy and transcendent. We had eight years of Obama, out of nowhere, because of this. The whiter and more upper class neighborhood the more magical minorities become. Compare this elite to the Mexican elite, which is actually in some way more materialist and worldly.… Read more »

SidVic
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SidVic

The trauma of the world wars and the appearance of nukes on the scene has led to a unnatural peace, a status quo for these last 80 yrs. While Z refers to our current elites as ruthless, i don’t they could hold a candle to the likes of Stalin, who consciously implemented policies that he knew would starve millions. Even sherman and grant conceded that it was necessary that the bloom of southern manhood be slaughtered for peace to emerge in the US. They then went grimly about the task. The ethos of “how many divisions does the pope have?”… Read more »

Maus
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Maus

Power flows from the barrel of a gun. Chairman Mouse Dung, for the win. Thank God for the 2nd Amendment RTKB arms. We are at the “molon labe” stage of affairs; and, as Gilroy demonstrated once again, not quite at the “screw the optics” stage. The frog pot continues its slow boil.

Al from da Nort
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Al from da Nort

Z Man; I wonder if mid-wit, cargo-cult-type thinking among our globo-elite, Cloud dwellers isn’t a sufficient explanation for their head-scratchingly stupid (or malicious – take your pick) immigration policies. Envisioning Latin America without understanding how it came about and how it’s actually maintained would look highly attractive to such people.* After all, anybody who’d been there prior to the recent narco-collapse saw a pretty idyllic situation (if one is an elite member) where the WYTe 10% live like kings, the mocha 10% have a (precarious) middle class life and the Mestizo & Indio 80% live like dogs. So, how to… Read more »

sirlancelot
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sirlancelot

Interesting break down of power centers.

Just guessing here, Silicon Valley – outside foreign interests ? (chinese/indian )

Wall Street – old money

Alphabet agencies – military contractors

Washington DC – more losers like the “Broad squad” giving the brown horde the illusion of participation in the process ?

All in cohorts with each other to keep the game going ?

neal wigal
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Anthills being disturbed with tech. Genetic tweakings, high speed trading, newsfeeds. Like the kid with a magnifying glass. Not sadistic, science! You know, red foxes get to migrating from the golf courses and head smack into the arctic varient and being hungry kill whitey.
Given time, the newbies will pale out and the stories about preparing for the next migratory war will seem like a myth. Until it happens.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

“The South American system transplanted to North America” I see the bond vultures, then sanctions, then scout groups from Central America as carving a channel for Venezuelan refugees, an engineered Latin Spring. And voila, here comes the Congressional action laying out the welcome mat. We’re going to make lots of money with new living accomodations and immigrant placement, the Orinoco heavy oil- which only we can refine- will make it all worthwhile as US fracking defaults. Next: Cuban offshore oil, Bolivian lithium, and South American “blue gold”, fresh water deposits! PetroBrasil, Argentine ranches, the shakier your emerging market currencies look,… Read more »

Dave
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Dave

The best part about the USA being absorbed into Latin America is saying goodbye to feminism and civil rights. If you’re white, learn Spanish and you’re in like Flynn, especially if you have blond hair and blue eyes. If you’re black, smash yourself in the face with a boot, because that’s your future under Latino rule.

george
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george

Latinos could not possibly care less about blacks being slaves in the past. And the dirty little secret is they hate blacks worse than the KKK ever did.