This week we have a Labor Day themed podcast for all the hard working Dirt People out there in podcast land. Most people have no idea what it means to work, but I’m pretty sure the listeners here are horny-handed men of toil. I have some stuff on Labor Day, cops, feminist science and the need to start thinking about our corporate overlords in the same way the working men looked at their industrial overlords.
This week, Spreaker has the full show. YouTube has the full show and segments from the show. I am now on iTunes, which means the Apple Nazis can listen to me on their Hitler phones.
This Week’s Show
- 00:00: Opening Yodel
- 01:45: Labor Day (Link) (Link) (Link)
- 10:30: Battle Cops (Link) (Link)
- 20:00: Forms (Link) (Link)
- 25:30: Traditional Workers (Link) (Link)
- 30:30: The Scammers (Link) (Link)
- 35:30: Feminist Loonies (Link) (Link) (Link) (Link) (Link)
- 41:00: The Unpredictable Past (Link)
- 46:00: Corporatism (Link) (Link)
- 59:00: The Long Goodbye
I am from Leslie county Kentucky . all my ancestors are from that area and they were coal miners. (yeah, I’m old) . The UMW and john lL lewis were institutions . that has changed now. Like other unions they became democrats first and unionist last. the UMW, UAW and steelworkers unions have no business in the same party as the sierra club and Greenpeace. They figured out too late that the greens wanted Kentucky and west Virginia to be uninhabited national parks. Yellowstone of the east so to say. That is why west Virginia voted fro trump by a… Read more »
You have already triggered the republican horde I see. Muh cops! Muh soldiers! Muh constitutional! Muh rule of law! Worship of state functionaries is a result of being one of the most heavily propagandized populations on earth. The messages that an inattentive white person receives are very uniform I pretty much only go to breitbart to troll the semi-redpilled republican horde. I don’t know that this is the right technique to convert souls to a real rightism, but it’s pretty much what got my attention. I got to where I am today from following Derb to takimag, and then propmptly… Read more »
I really dislike this comment program, btw.
I’ve never had a spot of trouble with cops. I am courteous and respectful with them and they reciprocate. And when I see gangbangers and bikers walking around with MP5’s I am all for them gunning up. I have no problem with their armour either, when a ‘protest’ or a ‘demonstration’ turns into a riot in the blink of an eye. Anyone that says they have an easy job is a liar, or an idiot, or somebody with an agenda. My rights are not violated one iota by having cops that beat the shit out of somebody that deliberately goads… Read more »
Look up the YouTube videos of the nurse in Salt Lake City, who was just arrested for denying the cops an illegally requested blood sample from an accident victim. I’m basically pro-cop, but there are a lot of cops in SLC that need to lose their jobs or worse, from the scumball that went apeshit on her, to the supervisor that treated her like a ten year old, as he wrongly told her she was wrong when she was right, to the other cops who didn’t intervene when the scumball did his thing. The small talk between the cops, caught… Read more »
I follow your blog and have read it almost daily for the last year or so. I like your writing. I’ve been a policeman for 20 years. First, I should say I think you are correct that a lot of cops are overweight, that the job attracts authoritarian personalities and that a contributor to the problem stems from cops who treat citizens like they are inmates. I also think it is healthy for a society to distrust authoritarian institutions of any type, particularly the police. I also think the left has taken its long march directly to the Police and… Read more »
I think you make fair points. I’m not anti-cop. I do recoil at the cop-worship we see peddled in the mass media, but I also recoil at the anti-cop hysteria of libertarians. I just think we are sliding into a very dangerous place with policing. There’s simply no reason for cops to have military gear.
Yeh, the cops lost my respect with the hero nonsense. That’s laughable, bunch of glory hunters.
” Would I risk my livelihood, house, car, school tuition and families happiness to protect the rights of an individual? Perhaps, but its kind of a big ask..no?”
I’m sorry isn’t this the whole point of being a police officer? What other reason do you have to being one then? If you don’t want to risk those things to protect people that is fine, but then you need to quit and get a different job that doesn’t require you to put those things at risk.
It’s a fair question. You have a right to a lot of things. Right up top is the right to life, liberty and property. Your lawnmower, for instance is a property right. Your right to assemble peaceably and demonstrate for a point (of whatever flavor) is a liberty right. I don’t think there is much argument that I am not required to chase someone at 100 mph to get your lawnmower back. Yet that involves balancing a right versus a risk, does it not? So having established (I think ) that protecting rights is a balancing act with risk attendant,… Read more »
The cliche motto for police goes “To protect and serve”, not “To evaluate risk and proceed accordingly”. That said, I’m not saying that no thought should be given as how to handle each specific situation, but I think the risk calculation you’re speaking of (my income vs. your rights) is not in regards to a specific situation, but concerns the overall requirements of the job, and should be made before accepting employment as a police officer. Take your premise to another dangerous line of work: I’m a coal miner, but working in caves is dangerous so I’d rather not risk… Read more »
You actually make my point with better examples than I used. If the coal company shuts down the mine ….the miners don’t enter, especially not alone. It doesn’t matter if the coal company was right or wrong to shut down the mine when considering what action to take. The question is one of effectiveness. Similarly, if the brigade orders a withdrawal, the infantryman who contrives to attack or hold the line might be a great hero or a dead man……but no one condemns the private who follows the order. I thought I made it crystal clear that it appears to… Read more »
I disagree that my examples make your point. I’m speaking about accessing the cumulative risks of a given profession, prior to accepting employment. You’re taking those examples and spinning them into specific situations, only after employment has been accepted. You should know the risks of a job you accept before hand. If you don’t, or later feel the risks outweigh the rewards, then you should quit. But telling me your pension comes before the safety of the citizens you swore to protect because doing the right thing might get you hurt or fired, well then, I’m afraid I cannot provide… Read more »
Tyranny is probably established out of no other regime than democracy. Plato.
Today he would say: Tyranny is probably established out of no other regime than the mind-meld between Big Corporate and Big Government.
Z man; In honor of Labor Day: Probably many of your readers are not old enough to recall the days when unions actually were actually well worth belonging to. But then they outsourced their value added to the US Govt. under LBJ. Retrospectively, this was a huge mistake. I recall I and my brothers and our (local -there were no other kinds at the time) friends’ experiences in the early-mid ’60s. We were then just summer workers and so had limited skin in the long-term industrial relations game. But it was obvious to us all at the time that working… Read more »
I remember doing some work at a police station many years ago when they were preparing for one of their first swat raids that night. The glee and exuberance a few of the young ones displayed there was something to behold. All that was missing was a pep talk from Knute Rockne to complete the pregame event.
I had a swat team assemble (10 to 15 strong and 6-10 vehicles) in front of my house for an operation one block away. It happened at 2 am and was a thing to behold. They even brought in a command trailer. After an hour they left. No bad guy was apprehended and I was glad they were not after me.
The fanatics hate and are at war with the past because they hate competitors. They want to erase a civilisational memory that things could ever be different.
I remember my time in the matrix and how much it obliterated my imagination. It never occurred to me it was possible biological racial differences were real because my culture made it unimaginable.
The more you erase the past the more you are intellectually chained to the dominant ideology of the present.
Just like Orwell suggested.
The modern American police forces are designed to protect and serve…. their pensions, and by extension, the bureaucrats who fund them. They are essentially a private army, much like Caesar’s legions, who’s first priority is to the hand that feeds. This has been apparent to me for many years (I have several extended family members with the Chicago PD; and I have some pretty infuriating stories) but in the wake of Berkeley and Cville, it should be coming clear to anyone with half a clue. No police officer is going to risk their pension for something as trivial as upholding… Read more »
If the US ever adopts the metric system, would that move labor day to may 1st? 🙂
I’m not dismissing your concerns about police — Sure DoE does not need a tactical team; and some police can act like typical jerk government bureaucrats. But whenever we find ourselves on the same side of an issue as Sloppy Williamson, Eric Erikson, and Reason Magazine, we should pause and check our bearings. This issue seemed to have peaked with the Ferguson riots and images of police in military gear confronting the “peaceful” demonstrators who had been whipped-up into a frenzy of race hatred by the fake news networks. The progs and deranged libertarians thought the mass of the country… Read more »
“The Conservative Case for Race Riots”
Best line I’ve heard in a while sir.
For what it’s worth i believe policing, like speech is a who, whom question if ever there was one.
Charlottesville showed that.
Most American “norms” are sheep who were programed in the mass retardation factories called public schools. Most cops are like do-gooding shepherds who are eager to do what is ordered by their paymasters, i.e. by the owners of the sheep and the fields where sheep graze between periodic shearings. Further, your remark about most cops being “good guys” must be evaluated while remembering that Progs, militarists, and capitalist racketeers rule America, in part, through cops with the rulers’ totalitarian mentality on display for all to see. How reliable, then, could your teammates be? The cops “serve and protect”, alright, but… Read more »
But the mainstream media, academia, Hollywood, and all the Daily Show type propaganda pushes the “cops are tools of the racist white patriarchy” line. Doesn’t that make you wonder who is being “programed”?
Police aren’t even in the top 10 most dangerous professions. Provided they don’t shoot themselves, They get to retire at 55 with a nice six figure pension and bennies for life. The rest of us schlubs have to depend on our 401K’s until we hit 67.and then get some SSI. The reason people don’t respect the polices is because they treat everyone like criminals and are pretty much above the law when they abuse their authority. There are more than enough documented and videotaped cases of police just wrecking people for some minor offense like skateboarding or that lady walking… Read more »
Zman you mention lawfare in your corporatism segment. I’ve noticed before you’ve suggested that the courts will be able to be used against the left (sorry, can’t place the particular example)…why would you believe in the current judicial environment a judge would come down on the side of say, stormfront?
Do you think the ultra left legal system cares about rule of law more than eradicating stormfront?
Seems unlikely to me.
One word for this edition: Excellent
A one-time east-bloc communist official quipped the hardest thing about communism was trying to predict the past. Our communist seem to have a better grip on re-writing the past. This is the talent of democratic communism. The Leninists let you know who your master was, our masters have you believing you are part of the gang.
Not just you, Z, the ‘militant’ attitude from LE in flyover country is becoming more prevalent too. Last summer an old guy came to the shop I manage and got salty about a voucher. He became loud and started disturbing the other customers, so I told him he needed to calm down. He kept yelling so I finally told him to go home or I’d have to call the PD. He left, but came back 10 minutes later and started yelling again, so I put in a call – belligerent customer. Within 5 minutes a deputy pulls up, I explain… Read more »
I work across the street from a medical outpatient facility, which places 911 paramedic calls all the time. Each response gets a paramedic ambulance, one or two fire trucks, and one or two police cars, full lights and sirens. The firemen and the cops stand outside for half an hour or so chatting, while the paramedics do their work inside. Later in the day, same thing. My point is that I am sure the cops and firemen here are padding their number of emergency responses, for funding purposes and work scheduling. The SWAT team in your town might be getting… Read more »
Bureaucracy aside, what happened at my shop would not have happened here 30 years ago. Over time things have changed and it’s not just in one region or city. No one wants storm troopers rolling in hot ready to draw down on Mrs. Smith on aisle 5. This behavior doesn’t serve the police or us.
If you call the cops these days you’d better be okay with someone getting killed. It’s not sherrif Andy anymore.
Justine Damond didn’t expect the sharia law version of the death penalty when she called 911.
This case is as plain as day. The moslem man had his honor beshirched by the scantily clad women. So he reacted as any moslem beast would. Ditto Ann Bernhard’s moslem refrain.
Minneapolis – Mogadishu, what’s the difference.
…bums does not mean the same in Canada, UK and antipodes, the discussion on the bum problem and the bums who ‘bummed up’ was hilarious.
Just a technical note – There are almost no poisonous snakes. However there a hell of al ot of venomous snakes.
Plenty to chew on here. In my business the cops are reliable allies and I have a great relationship with the city PD. We have, societally, outsourced a lot of what should be our internal security to the police. Much of that is a consequence of legal protections–private security is very limited in what they can do in places of business open to the public. As for the militarization, it instinctively rubs me the wrong way, too. And then we see pictures of squad cars being smashed to pieces by the feral indigenous population in cities (like Baltimore) that have… Read more »
When you get some lawyer hate going I’ll write a long post about how “not all lawyers X”.
The RSS feed for your podcast is at:
http://www.spreaker.com/user/9935466/episodes/feed
The spreaker download link there actually works. The direct link gives an ‘access denied’ error message, presumably becauser Spreaker sucks.
A couple of nits to pick. The Pullman strike was in 1894, when Cleveland was president, not Coolidge, whom you mentioned as possibly president at the time. He came 30 years later. Also, according to what I found on Wikipedia about race questions on the census, there was not a census in which Irish or Italians would have been classified as non-white. You mentioned Judith Butler’s book, “Gender Trouble.” I actually tried to read that once. It is one of the worst heaps of intellectual rubbish that I have ever encountered, even compared with the bits and pieces of victim-studies… Read more »
“Dana Plato” daughter of Plato – ROFL. Sounds like you’ve been imitating Cochran regarding subtle cultural references. BTW she died at 33 from multidrug intoxication.
Canada does SO have power…although I am only 45 mins away from the Del Bonita border.
Oh, and thanks for all the smoke. “Smoke” is now a part of our weather forecast lexicon.
Another excellent podcast Z, but . . . . . . . have to take exception about the bad cop thing. The only interaction 90% of the people will have with police is getting a speeding ticket. It’s a lousy feeling. Police officers get tickets too. There are some state troopers out there that take pride in ticketing even their own mother 🙂 And the used military equipment is laughable. Most departments pass on this so-called “surplus ” . Nobody wants a Vietnam era M4 with a shot out barrel that looks like it’s been stored in the bottom of… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EwK0NsKdDY
https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/inwardempirepodcast/episodes/2016-06-30T15_03_05-07_00
Podcast on the pullman strike above.
Second episode below.
https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/inwardempirepodcast/episodes/2016-12-23T20_33_28-08_00
Middle earth role playing is commenting here?
I don’t know you, but I’ve gone through and read a few of your comments. I say a few because you’ve posted so many, 20 comments is just a scratch on the surface. The sheer amount of your contributions to one website alone tells me all I need to know about you. Next, you and everyone else on this website are a bunch of fluffy cowards. That’s why everything is so anonymous on this website. You all can feel at home with each other as pussies, going on about shit you perceive to be wrong with the world, but really… Read more »
Triggered.
No hate in you, Killmonger! If only it were true that YOU DON’T CARE. That would solve every objective about race around these parts. It’s possible to not care. Asians demonstrate this. They are great at not caring. But everything you do is about caring. Even when we move away you follow us. Let my people go.
The Tiny Duck (Trent D) manifesto!!!!
Dude, you are foaming at the mouth, that is foam isn’t it?
The sheer amount of your contributions to one website alone tells me all I need to know about you.
Quite the statement from someone who wrote by far the longest comment on the thread on a site he hates on a Saturday evening.
I got through the section of the podcast on “Battle Cops” before I had to pull over and puke. The laundry list of talking points has been done to death. The Department of Education SWAT story comes from Radley Balko from Cato/HuffPo/WaPo fame, and has been debunked. I have never seen a SWAT team in the flesh ever. The muh foot patrol thing is junk. Most of Americans don’t live or work in walk-able areas, and I have seen officers on foot every time I have been in Baltimore. The being a cop is safer than being a garbage man… Read more »
And you just proved every point I made in that segment. Good job.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/education-department-swat-team-raids-california-home/2011/06/08/AGUxlKMH_blog.html?utm_term=.9a2e6bf368c9 even the Washington POZ acknowledges the DOE swat team . here is an article on one of their raids.
Despite all the hysteria on libertarian blogs about robocop SWAT teams, every politicized police killing in recent years has come about from ordinary municipal cops doing ordinary municipal cop stuff like making traffic stops and looking into convenience store robberies. If SWAT is a problem, it’s a rather trivial one in the grand scheme of things.