Our Interregnum

One of the most remarkable things to happen in the West since the end of the Cold War has been the rise of identity politics over the last half decade. It is remarkable for a couple of reasons. One is that it has emerged in what economists consider to be a time of unrivaled prosperity. People should be happy and content, rather than angry, with post-national liberal democracy. A central tenet of liberal democracy is that the end point of human activity is to create a world of material plenty.

The other remarkable aspect is these movements are flourishing in the face of strong moral prohibition, often backed by force. It’s literally dangerous to be an identitarian in most of the West now. America is now a land that bans books and subjects dissenters to internal banishment. The titans of industry are studying China for ways to suppress internal dissent. Despite these efforts to anathematize identity politics, white people throughout the West are embracing identity politics.

The aggressive assault on dissidents is a direct result of the unpreparedness of the ruling classes. They really were convinced they had ushered in the post-historical moment as imagined by Francis Fukuyama. The great battles of political economy in the 20th century were settled. All the “isms” had been vanquished by liberalism and there was nothing left to discuss. The sudden reappearance of old cultures and old ideas about how people should organize themselves was like seeing a ghost.

Now, this is a good time to note that the phrase “identity politics” has been kicking around American political circles for decades. In the mouths of conservatives, it was always part of the grift they have been running on white people. It looks like an attack on left-wing tactics, but in reality it is an endorsement of Progressive morality. For the Left, it was always a cover for anti-white agitation. They could not come out directly in favor of anti-white polices, but non-white camp followers were free to do it.

The success of this game of good cop – bad cop played by the American political class is another reason they remain baffled by what’s happening. This game has worked for so long, its sudden failure is like the sun rising in the west all of a sudden. Perhaps a better metaphor is it seems as if all swans are now black. Everywhere political elites turn, the world is no longer as they imagined it. All the axioms upon which they based their world view are suddenly being called into question.

It turns out that Fukuyama was sort of right after all. The West had reached an endpoint after the Cold War. It was not the end of a great ideological battle, but the end point of the great multicultural project launched by the Frankfurt School following World War II. The West, particularly America, had become fully actualized as multicultural societies. They no longer possessed a core identity, based in biology, which informed their politics or restrained their politicians. It was just one big open marketplace.

The trouble is, you cannot have a nation without a sovereign identity and there can be no sovereign identity without a nation. This is the core insight of multiculturalism, which was never intended to strengthen the West but to destroy it. To have a multicultural society is to have no culture at all. Once the people’s sense of who they are is destroyed, the nation must follow with it. That is exactly what we see in the West as political classes struggle to perform their basic duties.

The reason for this, is that the people’s sense of who they are is what animates the political institutions of the state. That shared reality of a people is the soul of every nation, just as the soul animates the body. To kill it and simply try to artificially animate the body, is to create a Frankenstein’s monster. The modern Western state is now a collection of cultural parts robbed from graves around the world. It is neither organic nor natural, so it is always at war with normal human sensibilities.

Multicultural liberal democracy, when lying on the table, is ugly in appearance, but when animated it is truly horrifying. Multiculturalism becomes a monster that attacks everything around it, because at some level, like the mythical monster, it knows it is an abomination, a sin against creation. We have quickly moved from eradicating the people’s sense of identity to systemically eradicating the people. Instead of creating a new society, superior to the old, multiculturalism has destroyed the very essence of western society.

In addition to the end of the post-war cycle, we may also be at the end of a much longer cycle that began with the Enlightenment. The thinkers and philosophers who gave us liberal democracy had a mechanistic view of nature. This led them to see society as nothing but a collection of parts, like a watch. In order to make a better watch, the watchmaker simply had to improve its parts. Make a better spring or a better crystal and snap it into place. Liberal democracy is the full expression of this belief.

It turns out that human society is nothing like a watch and the people in it are not simply automata that can be tinkered with as necessary. Human society is the expression of the shared reality of the people. That shared reality is the result of actions, experiences and mating decisions made by their ancestors. Who they are is what they are. The Frenchman is French, because his ancestors were French, not because the map maker said he was born in France. The nation is the manifestation of this reality.

The confluence of these two end cycles, plus others forces like demographics and technology has brought us to this interregnum. The reason the ruling elites helplessly lash out at the gnats whirling about them is they are built for an age that is fading into the past. Their weapons are crude and destructive, but ultimately ineffective at halting the march into the abyss. The weird nostalgia of American politics is just another aspect of that effort to halt the momentum. It’s an effort to stop the clock.

Similarly, the incoherence and confusion among dissidents is due to the inability to break free from the Enlightenment ideas of liberal democracy. Those looking for an alternative, rummage around in the past for prior rejections. First it was the neo-reaction trying to revive the age of kings. Then it was the alt-right trying to revive 20th century fascism. Like clothes from a prior era, they were a poor fit and made the wearer look odd. They are answers to questions no one remembers, not the questions of today.

That’s why the on-going efforts to put Buckley Conservatism back together will fail. It was an answer to an old question. Similarly, libertarianism is in crisis, because it was a set of tools made for a tradesman who is no longer needed. Whether it is an effort to impose the old forms on the new opposition or re-brand the old stuff as a new form of nationalism, the effort must fail as it is an artifact of the past. The emerging opposition to the prevailing orthodoxy will be rooted in a rejection of its core principles, not an embrace of them.

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Altitude Zero
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Altitude Zero

Very true. despite our justifiable nostalgia for the great past of our lost country, the only way out is forward. We can look to the past for elements and ideas that we wish to incorporate into our new country and society, but there is no going back. You can do anything with the past but live in it.

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Official Bologna Tester

Zman said. “Whether it is an effort to impose the old forms on the new opposition or re-brand the old stuff as a new form of nationalism, the effort must fail as it is an artifact of the past.” Nicolas Gomez Davila said something like a reactionary doesn’t necessarily want to save the old institutions but the spiritual essence that animated them. I understand what you mean when you say “The emerging opposition to the prevailing orthodoxy will be rooted in a rejection of its core principles, not an embrace of them.” The Enlightenment ideas of liberal democracy have been… Read more »

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Teach them Christianity.

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

Not the current cucked version though. We need type that motivated the Templars and the Winged Hussars,

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Ostei Kozelskii

He said Christianity, not Liberation Theology, i.e. cult-Marx disguised as Christianity.

Carrie
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The Traditional Catholicism of Pope Leo XIII at the end of the 19th Century.
That dude was a warrior, and told it as it was. He has some great writings and I encourage all here to google his name and the word “writings” and you’ll come up with some straight-up great content.
Based in the strength of virile, potent, Christ-centered masculinity.
That’s what the men of the Crusades subscribed to. They went because they WANTED to, not because someone brainwashed them, as liberal Christians (and liberal Caholics) would have you believe.

Carrie
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And here’s a cool link (below) with his writings in “audio book” format:

Pope Leo XIII ‘s encyclicals. (He was a “top performer” in terms of the number of writings he published while “in office” from 1878 – 1903.

He writes about:
–Freemasonry
–Modernism (and “the modern age” and it’s pitfalls)
–Christian Marriage
–Socialism, Communism, Nihilism
–Allegiance to the Republic
–The Right Ordering of Christian Life
–The Prohibition and Censorship of Books
–The Most Holy Eucharist
–Christian Democracy (I wonder what that’s about!)
–and more.

Prolific.

Here’s a link to a list of his published encyclicals, in the form of audio books (in English).

https://librivox.org/the-great-encyclical-letters-of-pope-leo-xiii-by-pope-leo-xiii/

I’ll now be listening in the car!

Mr Incredible
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Mr Incredible

Deus vult

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

You have to be careful how you present Christianity to young people. Oswald Spengler said ” Christian theology is the grandmother of bolshevism.” Just a thought.

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I would venture as others have that Judaism is.

Corvinus
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Corvinus

“You have to be careful how you present Christianity to young people.”

Exactly. Your version would really confuse them. It would help to crack open the Bible now and then and learn from it.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Rather than demanding people swallow whatever version of Belief wholesale, let us first ask what it is, what it’s trying to talk about, and how it works.

The time for childish things is over.
No more running. No more pleading. No more stumbling in the dark.
Our real war is with Evil itself.
With Death, and Pain, and Lies.

The sages tell us we cannot know, that we must be frightened children forever- they know nothing.
I will not submit to fools.

Corvinus
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Corvinus

OK, great. So what do your words actually mean? Are you prepared to get your Pinochet on?

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

I’m note downvoting this idea at all.It is wrong but it deserves an explanation as to why. Doing so means European people will permanently have one foot in the Middle East and will be subjected to being taught what started as essentially a Jewish heresy which ,worse, over time has become a universalistic religion. Are you sure this is a good idea ? More importantly unless the elite actually embrace and believe in, at least in public this Deus Vult Christianity , it won’t work. Do your reactionaries believe this stuff enough to fake public piety especially in a world… Read more »

Rod1963
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Rod1963

Secularism won’t work, it’s been been tried and gave us the current death cult we’re in. As for the your notion of government It’s as utopian as anything the Libertarians emote. It goes against human nature. People need religion. When the West’s intellectuals turned on Christianity after WWII and thought they could replace it with some secular bullshit concocted by brain dead intellectuals in academia the people ended up turning to Marxism and Post-Modernism as their article of faith. Which permeated all of society from the arts, architecture and world view. We now have late night cartoon shows promoting bestiality… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

Did people turn to Marxism and Post-Modernism, or was it foisted on them in the vacuum created by the banishment of traditional religion?

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

The elite got into it much as previous elite joined other cults and those who want to be part of the higher echelons are required to show piety.

This is a common outcome and basically how Christianity started. This makes sense as Cultural Marxism is a Christian Heresy

The difference is though Christianity works as civic glue and Cultural Marxism/Postmodernism does not.

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Bob

Good comment, Dutch. Traditional religion wasn’t banished from on high, not in the early days, at least. It was abandoned for fun goodies like recreational drugs, divorce, sexual liberation, and materialism. The only ones who had Marxism and Post-Modernism foisted upon them were unwitting college students whose parents and prior education neglected to inculcate them with any defense against it. https://babylonbee.com/news/congregation-prays-graduating-senior-be-protected-from-basic-secular-arguments-they-never-bothered-to-prepare-her-for From there, it grew to permeate the whole society, as Rod noted. We willingly traded the belief system that strengthened and united us. People prefer the easier way of hedonism. Almost everyone does, to some degree, human nature being… Read more »

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

The elite are into postmodernism and cultural marxism or at least are required to act like they are in public This gap between the elite who often get into creeds like this and the common folk who either have a structured religion or a folk religion is part of the tension right now Regardless , lotsots of historical societies got by without a state religion though all of them had folk beliefs of course However contrary to what secularists want people to think the West and the rest are doing fine on those grounds I mean we live ina world… Read more »

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The Last Stand

A. B. Prosper, you raise some good points deserving of an answer. Let us assume that the final battle has ended and we are hailing the new dawn. 1. Middle Eastern engagement by Christendom would be inevitable and necessary from a cultural and religious standpoint. The only solution that prevents us from being subverted by Judeo-Christian types or Muslims is a new crusade and political and military occupation of the holy places. Theoretically possible if the Deus Vult types are in power. Reverting to a non-cucked form of Christianity would also save us from the Judeo-Christian types. The early Church… Read more »

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

Who downvoted this? As far as your respect for other faiths, individually sure. I believe you . But the institutions? Nope.

That said it seems like no one really wants Christendom and maybe a backup plan for of it doesn’t come back would be wise.

I mean there might be a revival which would make things easier but it might be that just the same as previous faiths reached an end point, so did Christianity in the West

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The Last Stand

We will have to clean up our own house first. I suspect that once the pedophiles, gays, and feminists are expelled, it will be far easier to make an alliance with based atheists and pagans against the poz. All the nonsense about ecumenicism and diversity can be repurposed for something useful. I have to disagree with the idea that Christianity is finished in the West. Granted, this is disagreement is purely rooted in faith in Jesus Christ, so I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I will however pray for you and a better world for both of… Read more »

c matt
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c matt

DV Christianity would work, but it is not a self-perpetuating phenomenon. That is, it requires constant reinforcement and support from the PTB. It ruled once, and faded; it can rule again, and just as much fade again.

Once they stopped burning heretics, it all went downhill.

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You’re part of the problem.

If Christianity is true it is, by definition, impossible for it to have “had its day.” There are the damned and there are the saved, and the truth will be fearsome.

slumlord
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slumlord

Christianity has to sort itself out first.

Sextus Empiricus
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Sextus Empiricus

Nope, not Christianity. The man just spent a whole glorious post explaining why we can’t go back to the past, and you say “teach them Christianity”? 1. Christianity is the mother of progressivism (I highly recommend Christopher Lasch’s book “The True and Only Heaven” for a tour de force examination of the development of Progressivism in the US – spoiler: Progressivism is the logical result of Christianity + Science + Political Freedom). 2. If white people are going to go backwards, why stop at a Middle Eastern religious cult (Christianity) that the Romans foisted upon Europe – why not go… Read more »

Bob
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Bob

Should we toss out science and political freedom, too, then, since those + Christianity got us where we are? Or are we already in the process of doing that?

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Sextus Empiricus

I should not have expressed that idea mathematically. The morality of Christianity pretty much remained the assumed underpinning – the water we swim in – of the western concept of the good and virtuous even after science undermined Christian metaphysical and cosmological claims. The promises of Christianity and its moral teachings are not exclusively offered to a specific people but for anyone who accepts Christ as savior – accepts Christian morality. So for white people, Christianity is not their answer or special path forward – it’s a universal answer, and whites will be disarmed by appeals to facets of Christian… Read more »

Bob
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Bob

So you don’t think other races, presuming we all occupy the same space, should be equal before the law?

Ivan
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Ivan

Equality before the law is an impossible and dysfunctional concept.

Why would different things be treated equally?

Why are some 16 year olds tried as adults and some as children?

Some people say contradictions (hypocrisy) is part and parcel of the world we live in. Convenient that those exceptions benefit the allies of the powerful when they want though isn’t it?

It’s the cognitive dissonance that undermines society, not unfairness. Everyone who has matured to adulthood knows the world isn’t fair.

Michaeloh
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Michaeloh

Do you think Mexicans should be required to extend equality before the the law to all the gringoes living in Guadalajara? Should there be a gringo mayor, policemen, judges and senator? Shall they be required to allow gringoes to own property and buy politicians-or shall it instead remain their country?

c matt
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c matt

I am for tossing political freedom to a large degree. It is what got us here. When 85 IQs outnumber 135 IQs 100:1, one man, one vote is a disaster in the making.

Bob
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Bob

Numbers matter. But then you have to ask why they are so outnumbered in the first place when they never were before and if that isn’t really the problem. You also have to ask if there was ever any real political freedom, since no one ever actually agreed to being replaced demographically. Why didn’t anyone make a moral argument against replacement, because a good moral argument against it exists? “Saint Thomas teaches that immigration must have in mind the common good; it cannot destroy or overwhelm a nation.” Emphasis on overwhelm. We, the American people, had a right to exist… Read more »

Ivan
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Ivan

Enoch Powell did and no one listened because people only care about things they expect to affect them in their lifetime. Which is exactly why the old and the young vote in lock-step.

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The interregnum cannot last much more than another 20 years. It was always my fear that the proverbial shit would hit the fan just as I was too old to do much more than observe events from my bed. I suspect it will be that way. As we Boomers fade into that Disco in the Sky, change is in the air. Trump has shown dissidents the way forward, though he himself is merely an unwitting enabler. But there are people out there who really mean it. The anti-Lincoln is probably waiting and watching.

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As a young person, I agree with this sentiment. The leader is not gonna be someone out front like a Nick Fuentes-esque e-personality or blogger. He’s going to be a competent person who is wealthy and well-spoken, Machiavellian and lays low till the time is right. In my opinion, we have enough bloggers and Youtubers in the dissident space. we have all the ideas and concepts down as to whats wrong. We need to sow the seeds so that they’re people like us from top to bottom in society, from bankers and legal experts to engineers and doctors to plumbers… Read more »

Unwashed Mass
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Unwashed Mass

I’m glad you bring this up. I see an issue of not having enough people on our side having the trade skills to physically rebuild. Maybe the interim time between now and the great crash should be spent in emphasizing to the school age generations that these skills are important and methods of teaching the skills be focused upon. We sure as s##t don’t need any more managers.

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Ostei Kozelskii

The end times are approaching more rapidly than I anticipated. Not so long ago, I gave America 40 years before everything hit the fan. Now I literally believe it could happen any month. “Best”-case scenario, America continues shambling for another 15 years.

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

E…..I think you and I are similar in age, and we will see the great dissolution before we kickthebucket buythefarm. A hopeful moment….had my second Mormon woman walk through my door and launch immediately into asking about why she should be taxed for something her great grandfather didn’t do or wasn’t even here to do. She didn’t even know the word “reparations” but, man oh man, her knickers were in a twist. And she’s one of those who constantly quote the prophet love thy neighbor as thyself love the world invite the world make no judgment even for survival. The… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii

Reparations would be the Rubicon for me. At that point I morph from Keyboard Kublai Khan to something considerably more concrete and substantive…

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

Yep….I think brushing up against reparations will cause a large number of Normies here in Utah great agitation, and to begin the march to this side of the divide. I mentioned to the the LDS gal that other people advocate for their side and we should start thinking that way also. Notice I stayed away from “trigger” words.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

“asking about why she should be taxed for something her great grandfather didn’t do or wasn’t even here to do.”

In keeping with yesterday’s discussion on tactics, you’ve hit on the right approach to the “muh GDP” types!

Our ward leader (a Mormon head preacher) warned me against voting for Obama because of the 3% increase in mortgage taxes.
(I told him you won’t grab ’em by the nads by talking like an accountant- oops)

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

Alzaebo….am hunkered down in Cedar City. Where are you?

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

Cautionary Tale: My father was a Trot who once had a flashing sense of humor and infectious laugh, worked hard and seemed to enjoy his life. And his embrace of the endless fight and the failure of Red Thought-World led to him being a bitter, angry, nasty, alone old man. Did I say angry and curmudgeon. Even his dog was a cur. DON’T LET THIS FIGHT DESTROY YOU. You’ll be no good to anybody if you succumb. I’m not talking about the civil war shooting stuff. I’m talking about the long intense roll-out into we don’t know what. Do your… Read more »

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I appreciate your concern. I’m self-employed and will work until I die. I enjoy my work, am in excellent health, have a wonderful wife, am well off, travel often, and look forward to each and every day. I give young people the same advice you just gave me. But I’ll never stop hating leftie (and his sycophants) for what he’s done to us.

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Range Front Fault

E…am not the least concerned about your ability to cope with adversity. Mine is a tale for everyone who takes up the cause…pikes must be together by the rising of the moon, and all that. Our version of The Troubles. No concern for you….just admiration. And nor should you stop hating the left…what comes out of my mouth curls hair and sets Basic Husband’s hair ablaze.

Just look to me as Aesop spreading a teaching tale on avoiding being devoured by the wolves of war.

The time will come though, “You may fire when you are ready, Gridley.”

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Revenge can be delivered with a smile as easily as with a frown.

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

You go man. No doubt you’re better at this revenge stuff than me. I can’t play poker well, count the cards or keep a straight face. My Hamlet revenge play would end pretty quickly. Would muff the great opportune moment, frantically waving around a knife would fall off the stage, and all bloodied up, screaming like a harpy, would rise like the apparition of Carrie.
Nah…on second thought, that’s why we have guys like you around to fight the battle.

Carrie
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Range –
I just searched “Carrie” for your character reference.
Whoa!
It’s amusing to me that my chosen “nom de plume” also coincides with a jaded girl who is Stephen King’s first protagonist.
An unintended connection. Thanks for mentioning.
HEH.

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

You got it. Don’t think about this at night going to sleep.

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Firewire7

Yes. I keep a physical copy of Harry Browne’s How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World: A Handbook for Personal Liberty so I can read it every 2 years or so.

Red pilled in the 1970s he was.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

The late, great Harry Browne- what Libertarianism used to be, before the *special* editors at Reason gutted it.

Mark Auld
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Mark Auld

Utred uber allies?

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

Dude…..he fought like a son of a bitch! Shield wall up! Lousy husband, but can’t have the whole package. In the Cornwell series, he’s making it to old age by craft and guile. Cheers!

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Range Front Fault

Since I’m over 50 and the estrogen has settled in nice and steady, my brain is directing me to my next reading project…Patrick O’Brian/Master and Commander series. Screw the deep state and the asteroid heading toward us. Will have more fun throwing around nautical terms to be descriptive, pretentious and annoying since I don’t know what I’m talking about. At this age who cares! Fun!

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It was Lara’s husband, Strelnikov. She didn’t have a brother in the movie.

Drake
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Drake

That “unrivaled prosperity” mentioned at the beginning of the article is what is postponing the reckoning. When that ends, all hell breaks loose.

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The Ruling Class has a wolf by the ears.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

The cucks promised us overpopulation would never be a problem- we can fit all the consumption units in Texas!

They also told us automation would mean a shiny, happy future as robot wranglers.
Instead, we’re all going to be HR cat ladies at Starbucks, loyalty verified by our degree in Educational Equality Leadership.

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This is what the TPUSA and Trump don’t get. It doesn’t matter that the economy is supposedly doing great and unemployment is so low. Every other identity group in America bases their political support on tribal identity. What is good for my tribe is all that matters. Only whites seem to care about what is best for everyone and our reward for this altruism is being replaced and being scolded at the same time. Blacks don’t care that under Trump black unemployment is at record lows. Trump has been declared their racial enemy and nothing will change that but the… Read more »

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BTW, the public feud between Peter Brimelow and Yoram Hazony over Peter being declined admission to the National Conservatism Conference has been pretty amusing. I still can’t believe they are letting you attend.

https://vdare.com/articles/east-is-east-and-west-is-west-what-the-hazony-brog-heresy-hunt-says-about-july-s-national-conservative-conference

https://twitter.com/peterbrimelow/status/1143151875858079744

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

Arthur….you’re really rocketing up there for great insight and clear writing. Set my head ringing like a bell. Saved your comment. Keep it coming.
I caught my misspelling and wrote “incite.” An unintended truism: “encourage or stir up (violent or unlawful behavior).”

pyrrhus
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pyrrhus

I’m sure a good old American named Yoram Hazony has our best interests at heart in his gatekeeping efforts….

Hoagie
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Hoagie

Except I don’t think Trump is ignoring the people that elected him. The radical left is getting more and more radical daily. In their fear they have alienated the “working class whites” which used to be the base of the Democrat Party. Now they float insane ideas like 16 year olds and felons voting. They are scrambling in every blue state to institute motor voter and get as many aliens and illegals to vote as possible. And blacks and Hispanics who actually work and want a good life are moving to the Trump camp and all theses screaming scared leftists… Read more »

Normie
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2018 was the omen. Trump is done unless Hillary runs again.

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Unless you’re putting money down on “not Trump” at the betting pools, this is just posturing.

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3g4me

Hoagie – not only do I disagree that “blacks and Hispanics . . . are moving to the Trump camp,” but even if it was true, why would I care? I didn’t vote for Trump because I wanted to make common cause with that tiny fraction of non-Whites who don’t want to live totally off White gibs. Whether they work or not, they’re not my people and I am NOT a civic nationalist. If the occasional nonWhite backs Trump because he’s been good for his people, how does that help MY people? Jews have their embassy, the sexually degenerate got… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

“And blacks and Hispanics who actually work and want a good life are moving to the Trump camp and all theses screaming scared leftists know it.”

Citation needed. I think it’s likely that you are only seeing your own hopes. It is hard to let go of the hope that a substantial number of non-whites will affirm white culture. Very unlikely, due to their collective genetics and inherent tribalism.

Hoagie
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Hoagie

My citation is reading the news on any non-leftist media. Beside, I really don’t do homework. I’m not saying 50% of blacks and Hispanics are swinging to the Trump camp. I’m saying the Democrat Communist left sees it is losing support from those demos and are cultivating replacements i.e. felons. I also am not suggesting PPP are affirming white culture. I’m saying they are rejecting Democrat politics. They, like we will always be tribal but even they realize it’s better to be in their tribe with us running the show. The DemComs are in a panic and their answer is… Read more »

c matt
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c matt

An across the board student loan forgiveness would not be such a bad thing. Most of those loans are co-signed (if not outright taken) by the middle class parents of those students. Besides, I doubt the government will pay dollar for dollar, so any haircut Academia takes makes it just that much sweeter.

Momo
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Momo

Woodstock is over, hippie

Trump and GOP lose minority vote at every single election

Reality said Black and Hispanic have ethnic identity

Western elite call it racism or whatever but to me its survival instinct

Tykebomb
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Tykebomb

Is the economy really doing that great? I get the sense that whatever happened in 2008 broke society in some way and that we can’t fix it becuase the metrics to gauge the problem have been broken too. We have all the cheap crsp from China we could ever want, but my rent goes up every year along with my grocery bill.

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Isn’t it like nearly 100 million employable people that have been out of the workforce for years, now permanently on the dole? Not counted in any economic statistics.

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Sure, the measures are terribly inaccurate. Most of our adult lives my wife stayed home with my kids, but she wasn’t looking for work so she wasn’t “unemployed” and she was “out of the workforce” but what she was doing is very different from staying at home to play xbox. This is the government after all, but using the measures we have ready access to things are “better” than they were under Obama.

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I agree that the metrics they’re using are all stacked to produce the results they want. Just like the polls. The unemployment rate, for example doesn’t take I to account people who have simply stopped looking for work. It doesn’t properly reflect declining male employment rates — male employment is a sign of a healthy society. The more women want and need to work outside the home, the sicker the society is. It also doesn’t reflect the fact that most employment gains have gone to non-citizens. The inflation rate indices are carefully chosen to not reflect price increases in many… Read more »

Penitent Man
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You may be right, I feel like something broke as well. Of course, both my grandparents did “weird” things because they grew up in the Depression and it skewed their views for the next 50 years (they never quite trusted their prosperity completely).

c matt
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c matt

True – it depends on what you define as the economy. Indicators can be cherry picked, as well as the data to get the result you are looking for. There are so many “inflation” indicators that it is almost impossible to get an accurate read. If you measure inflation using only items that have dropped or stayed flat in price (most electronic gadgets and non-essential consumer goods) inflation looks low. You add in meat prices, fuel (although that can be volatile), durable goods (e.g., cars), insurance and you get a whole different picture. Sh*t we need (or are required to… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii

Whites are only altruistic to CP. We scorn our own, may God help us…

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Not true. It’s equal opportunity altruism, but that doesn’t make it any better. The deal is that the US is so prosperous in general that charity for needy rural White people isn’t as desirable or sexy as charity for exotic brown people living in conditions that are appalling for a US normie. There are so many hands stuck out these days that the average normie just doesn’t notice who’s getting neglected.

Also the refugee resettlement industry is big business. There’s no comparable industry helping resettle Appalachian Whites in Beverly Hills.

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Ostei Kozelskii

There’s some truth to what you say. But equally true, and more profound, is that self-loathing that infects over 1/3 of whites.

JZs
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JZs

Still scratching my head over the term, “white supremacist”. I know it’s used in a pejorative sense, but is there any more meaningless term to describe a non related, non-unified group of people? I mean for Christ’s sakes, there’d be few borders among the white folk in Europe if they were all joined at the hip biologically. And the various white tribes in America are not exactly a cohesive bunch either. White supremacy is literally no thing, especially in the USA.

Wolf Barney
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I only hear “white supremacist” from the left, or cucked right. The same people who talk a lot about the KKK. It’s always meant to be thought of as something sinister and to be feared.

james wilson
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Not to claim there are not some, but I have never met a single white person who believes white people are supreme. There is some fraction who realize some races are both inferior in intelligence and also challenged to control their impulses. A second fraction panics over the subject, and a third fraction are true believers in natural born equality. Some of the third fraction are religious and conservative.
Jews make no part of this equation. There are two separate factions of supremacists to be found there.

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SamlAdams

I’m with you. But I simply root for Team Honky whenever possible.

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

In all honesty, it describes reality and our enemies resentment of that reality.

Outdoorspro
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Outdoorspro

The entire point of the “white supremacist” label is to tag everyone who even hints at supporting, or even considering, white identity politics. It’s meant to indicate to the rest of the world that that person, that idea, is so completely beyond acceptable, they are not worth the slightest consideration. The idea is to invalidate the person/idea before it can be discussed in polite society. It’s also very effective as a de-platforming tool. If someone can be effectively branded as a WS, that gives cover to companies and organizations that wish to get rid of them. To be declared a… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii

It’s nothing more than a scare-word, and those who use it have no clear idea what they mean by it. Generally, however, the implication is that white identity is evil and must be snuffed.

Dutch
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Dutch

In some of the old mid-century stories, the idea was that the bad guys planted ideas in people that would be triggered into action by using the key word or gesture. That has been put to wide use, and “white supremacist” is one of those trigger things, as are “white privilege” and “MAGA”. They are all signals to put into motion all of the cues to set people off into the narratives they have been trained to believe in. Astonishing, if you approach all of this as a fly-on-the-wall and watch it all play out.

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

As Derb has written about…..2 groups of white people going at each other with hammer and tongs since the war for Southern succession, who hate each other with a white-hot fury. The multi-culti other are props used in this deep divide.

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Ostei Kozelskii

Sounds like something from the original Manchurian Candidate…

Dutch
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Dutch

I was thinking that, but wasn’t 100% sure and too lazy to look it up. Variations of the idea have been used in all sorts of stories.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

“Afghanistan bananistan.”

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3g4me

Ostei – it’s no mere “implication.” Numerous nonWhites have stated publicly that White women bearing White children, particularly White sons, is evil and must be stopped. They demand Whites leave their houses to nonWhites rather than any White descendants. The media will never show a married White family unless the father is a soiboi/cuck being schooled by a nonWhite. I fully expect this forced genocide-via-miscegenation to become a required federal program before 2030 – and as the healthy mother of two White sons, I do not plan to submit in any fashion.

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Dirtnapninja

All our enemies did was take the liberal-enlightenment values to their logical conclusion. Only in rejecting any attachment to the current institutions and authority can they be properly critiqued and attacked.

I believe we are in for 3 generations of hell before the emerging social justice tyranny is overthrown.

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

Trying to figure out what’s coming isn’t easy. As much as the neocons are attempting a comeback, the recent Iran war talk shows that there’s considerable pushback on neoconservatism. Normally I might think Trump (“campaign Trump”) populism is the future, but the rapidly changing demographics will stop that once Texas and Florida goes Dem. Since the Coalition of the Fringes left is increasingly getting favorable demographics, you might think the future is blue. Except the demographics also are a problem for them. There are still a lot of whites here, and there will still be quite a bit more than… Read more »

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There is no underlying basis for union. It has been put in place at the point of a gun. How much longer can they enforce multiculturalism?

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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Ris_Eruwaehdiel

The only thing that people have in common is the common desire to make a lot of money to buy a lot of stuff. That’s it. Even what passes for “conservative” today say that what binds us is adherence to the principles of the Constitution, free enterprise and individual liberty. In other words, the US is a Proposition Nation. Not traditional ties of blood, religion, culture and history. It’s been pointed out that if adherence to abstract ideals is what makes a person an American, an alien Gray could be an American. Someone living in the jungles of the Congo… Read more »

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

Of course not, rejecting the ideals is like disagreeing with a religion. It makes you a heretic. In short, even honest dissent from the ideals of the regime makes you an enemy. Now the supremely scary part is that standards are always changing. “That’s not who we are,” is code for, “This is what we will make you into.”

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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Ris_Eruwaehdiel

Good point. You know what often happened to “heretics” in the past.

Ursula
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The term “melting pot” is said to have come from a play written by a jewish immigrant, an activist (of course) who was involved in early zionist movements: “The Melting Pot is a play by Israel Zangwill, first staged in 1908. It depicts the life of a Russian Jewish immigrant family, the Quixanos. David Quixano has survived a pogrom, which killed his mother and sister, and he wishes to forget this horrible event. He composes an ‘American Symphony’ and wants to look forward to a society free of ethnic divisions and hatred, rather than backward at his traumatic past.” […]… Read more »

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

They know us well enough to know we’re altruistic, high-trust people, which they’ve exploited, but don’t know us enough to know they would have it great here in America, if they’d leave things be. Come to think of it, they sure don’t seem to know the third world horde they want here, since it’s going to backfire badly on them.

Penitent Man
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And…. kicked out of country 123…. and counting. Deus Vult.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Yesterday Zman asked us to disrupt the Disrupters.

I would do for Shumpeter and his “creative destruction” economics- just another way to say “kill it, gut it, wear the skin”.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

The original union was supposed to take that into account. That’s why state’s rights were pre-eminent, and the nation was called “United STATES”. So I’d alter your statement a little and say “there is NO LONGER much underlying basis for union”. But I’d also attribute that state of affairs to the more than 120 year effort to subsume the authority of the states in favor of an all-encompassing Federal government. They have done this thru measures large and small – but the abortion thing is one good example as to how they have forced compliance down the level of the… Read more »

Penitent Man
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But, but… muh Commerce Clause!

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

Separation should have been allowed under the Constitution as written in the 1860’s . It wasn’t and as such the document was TP at that point at least in terms of states rights . In terms of personal freedoms, I’d argue outside of guns and a few civil rights matters its working exactly as intended. It’s just that the people’s and especially our leaders mores have changed The current US is very Libertarians which is why much punishment comes from the private sector . heck it is fine in that kind of thinking for States to force someone to bake… Read more »

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“The current US is very Libertarians which is why much punishment comes from the private sector ”

What a hoot.
5% of the global population, 25% of those in cages.

5,000 federal laws that are punishable by being thrown in a cage.
Tens of thousands of regulation.

You do lead a rich fantasy life, China is freer. Russia much more so.

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

Let us compare 1930 shall we ? here are 13 more freedoms you have that you did not in the past Reading whatever you like without obscenity laws Watching whatever you like save child porn Practice whatever consensual sex you like Have Premarital Sex Commit adultery Be without a residence without being jailed It’s nearly impossible to lock up someone for mental illness which for some people is protection from political thought crimes Share birth control Information across state lines Use Birth Control Drink alcohol Use Marijuana in many states Marry any race you want Marry any gender you want… Read more »

Ursula
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Ursula

With all due respect, those 13 freedoms sound like life in any 3rd world sh!thole with corrupt or no governance. Free to be homeless! Good for white people? No. Free to have consensual or premarital sex. Good for white people? Not really. Committing adultery? Bad for white people. Look at the depraved world we live in. Good for white people? No, terrible. Though there are way too many laws and regulations on our books, wouldn’t it be great if we had a little more order via our laws being enforced? Especially when it comes to anything that aids illegals to… Read more »

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

You aren’t wrong Ursula but a state focused on the needs of any people much less White people is not going to happen. The US is corrupt and where it is not that, highly divided Most Libertarians and Republicans consider a welfare immoral. Good for people, hell any people isn’t in either vocabulary The current US isn’t a White nation anyway and while it could and should be, it will require massive amounts of repatriation to get there. This is quite a way off if it happens at all. As for the rest, how precisely is anyone going to enforce… Read more »

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Al in Georgia

I agree that the abortion issue is one of the issues to watch. The lefties went way overboard with wanting to kill the baby after its birth. Another issue the lefties go crazy on is gun control. The main action has been at the state level with a lot of non compliance in blue states and counties declaring that they would not enforce state laws, kind of a gun rights sanctuary area. The left does this with laws they don’t like and we will give it back to them.

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Prior to the Wilson disaster, and always excepting dishonest Abe, the average American interacted with the Feds only when they used a Post Office.

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

Prior to the 20th century though no one gave a crap about the environment and we were a nation of small businessmen and farmers mostly using horses with a population of a bit above modern germany mostly in small towns all across CONUS The Founding Fathers themselves lived in a world closer to the Middle Ages than modernity in terms of tech Modern technology and population growth changed that and you cannot have a small government with modern tech and/ or economies of scale. Every single piece of tech means more government, every job automated means more State and this… Read more »

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“The Founding Fathers never would have envisioned (insert technology here) !!! ” ……. has been the repeated cry from lefties and statists (but I repeat myself) – for almost every infringement of rights and increase in Federal government intrusion that they’ve ever dreamed up. It’s such a go-to argument for the leftist gun control crowd that it’s become an annoying joke among the pro-gun rights people. It’s been carried to such extremes by the Federal government that they prosecute people for intruding on “vernal pools” (means puddle in Fed-speak) – and they now consider streams that barely have a trickle… Read more »

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

Show me rationally how the things I pointed out to you are not freedoms? Do we have more regulations and taxes? Yes. I agree with you and have said this many times, Are there more people in prison? Yes caveat mostly for common laws crimes or drugs. Things that would have gotten longer sentences in 1950 BTW About the only freedom you lost was freedom to exclude as a private party aka freedom of association oh and in some states gun laws. As far as all the people spying on you, for the most part it is not the government… Read more »

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I blame the libertarians. There is nothing intrinsically small government about conservatism. There are government solutions to these problems and the tools to do so are laid out in article 1, section 8 of the constitution. But we can’t have that conversation becuase some “principled” RINO jackass will write an article demanding we do nothing. Which means the only party that can suggest action will suggest we expand the federal government beyond the constitution. Take the housing crises. We should stop immigration and raise tariffs so that products have to be made in America. We need just enough tariffs to… Read more »

Mencken Libertarian
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Mencken Libertarian

“Similarly, libertarianism is in crisis, because it was a set of tools made for a tradesman who is no longer needed.”

Not so sure about that. My own trade is doing just fine. And the plumbers, electricians, dental hygienists, car mechanics, etc. in my town are all pretty busy these days. Don’t know what I’d have done if the guys who re-shingled my roof last year weren’t otherwise needed.

sirlancelot
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sirlancelot

“To kill it and simply try to artificially animate the body, is to create a Frankenstein’s monster.”

You definitely have a talent for this sort of thing 🙂

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

Frankenstein’s monster is good. I’m going to use that one. What they’ve cobbled together with parts from all over the world is going to end in a nightmare.

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Ostei Kozelskii

This piece is a very fine companion to VDH’s article over on American Greatness.

https://amgreatness.com/2019/06/23/crack-ups-at-the-crossroads-of-intersectionality/

Piggybacking on a couple of Z’s points:

1. Instead of multiculti as Frankenstein’s monster, perhaps the more apposite analogy would be multiculti as a golem unleashed on the West by Benjamin, Marcuse, Horkheimer and Adorno, and then sustained by second-wave cult-Marxists such as Derrida, Foucault, Barthes, Lyotard, Althusser and Deleuze.

2. The nation is the expression of the culture, and the culture is the expression of the race and ethnicity. That seems the proper formulation for what Z expresses about the nation.

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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Ris_Eruwaehdiel

It all starts with biology, which leads to culture and finally politics.

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It all starts with environment>evolution>biology>culture> etc..

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Ostei Kozelskii. Those people you mentioned were the ringleaders, the useful idiots were leagon and still are. the long march through the institutions has been a resounding success. But more and more white people all over the west are waking up to what has happend. There is hope.

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Ostei Kozelskii

Agreed.

Dutch
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Dutch

The driver of all of this is the idea that people understand their environment as some sort of story or narrative. The traditional white-centered American narrative has been broken and discarded. In place of it has been the multi-culti -homo-globo thing, enforced with the idea that this new thing must be jammed down everyone’s throats. To believe the narrative is to be empowered to beat people over the head with it, so the story goes. Beyond that, people are swindled into defending these false narratives at all costs, not seeing the downside of that. Google and Facebook are the new… Read more »

Yves Vannes
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Look at where we were 10 years ago, 5 years ago, 3 years ago 2 years ago… Our politics are not in a state of inertia. Since Trump came down those steps we have been in a period of acceleration. The conflagration isn’t a decade or two away, it’s around the corner. We aren’t the only ones with agency. Our rulers have lost control of their bioweapons. It’s the anger and panic of the Blacks and Browns that now drives things. They will become even more animated and out-of-control in the next handful of years. Victory is some years away… Read more »

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Yves “Bioweapons” Vannes, you’re very precise about when the conflagration will not be. Not 2029. Not 2039. But vague as to when it will be. “Around the corner.” Since you’re so confident and have figured out what every possible scenario equates to, I’d like a more exact time frame than around the corner. You’ve got a crystal ball so you owe us precision. Our lives depend on it.

Yves Vannes
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The next two presidential elections will be the pivot point.

Once our enemies gain both houses and the presidency there will be nothing to hold them back. They can barely restrain themselves today. The organ grinders no longer control the monkeys.

2025 will be our 49BC.

BTW, our fetish for Trump getting to appoint more SCOTUS judges is the governing equivalent of the Maginot Line. If the anti-whites control the gov’t and the court says no to some action they’ve passed … they will be ignored, assuming out of fear they don’t simply ok everything anyway.

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The police state turned against praying mothers to protect drag queen / pedophiles and the children they are corrupting.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/22/mom-protest-drag-queen-story-hour-sniper/

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

The State using snipers to defend groomers from protesting moms.

That tells us something, ya think?

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

That they are afraid of reprisal for one and that the government no longer has legitimacy only force. It also means that the police are happy or least least willing to follow orders of people who support child groomers or lack the spine to strike or quit .This says nothing good about them whatever Ultimately White and decent people will end up jettisoning any respect for the law, not for the first time, c.f prohibition and end up becoming lawless, This can be a good thing, if it get dangerous to enforced the law after a few attempts it will… Read more »

Carrie
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OH DEAR.
That is:
1) Normalizing mental illness
2) Child abuse

pyrrhus
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pyrrhus

Not only did the Magic Dirt of America not turn Somalians and central Americans into anything resembling real Americans, whose core is English and Scottish settlers, but it couldn’t even turn Jews and southern Italians into anything resembling the real Americans who built the country…This was revealed quite starkly after Trump’s election, when 75% of my Jewish friends supported various ideas for removing him from office, including the 25th Amendment….The 1965 Immigration Act killed America, and what Rough Beast(s) will arise in its place will be determined only after much bloodshed…

Dave
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Dave

Take a look south … anywhere between the Rio Grande and Tierra Del Fuego. I believe that’s the America to come.

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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Ris_Eruwaehdiel

Worse. Traditionally, in Latin America, Whites dominated even in countries where they were a minority, such as Mexico. South Africa was a first-world country under White rule. Under the browns and blacks, everything will go fall apart.

Tykebomb
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Tykebomb

Latin America has a “bronze race” narrative to bind the brownest native together with the aryan conquistador descendant.

The Democrats use the word “white” like the Nazi’s use the word “judaic”. In this open air market, it’s all against us.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

I’ll take Italians. Any Europeans.

The Others have white skin but aren’t of the Caucasus. That’s the difference- even though 80% of the Diaspora are from the 1880s Russian Pale.

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

Thanks no. I want reverse immigration. In any case the know nothings were right. The only high trust peoples are western and northern Europeans and Japanese, the later only trust their own kind As such only immigration of highly Conservative people from those regions should be permitted We will still never end up the same again, that ship sailed with the Southern and Eastern European and most Catholic immigration but with enough time and ruthless will we can make something work Numbers though don’t support migration, they have no surplus population and low fertility and once things stabilize , so… Read more »

Penitent Man
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Perhaps someone can help me understand something. I fully understand the Oligarchs thinking they can tinker with Utopia, nothing new (Nazis, Communists, even the Pilgrims). There is a temptation to pursue that which is only God’s. What I dont understand is their seeming incomprehension that nations in particular and whites in general are beginning to awake to the identity game. The bile being heaped on whites by other groups; was that unforeseen or simply calculated to weaken whites while empowering their pets? If calculated, why did they assume that there wouldn’t be a growing resistance? Maybe they thought we’d react… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

They use probing, calibration of messaging, and measurement of feedback. Coupled with the “isolate and destroy” strategy. So far, it is working for them. We are a remnant, a rounding error, and we probably way overestimate our numbers, because we are steeped in what we believe in. A reverse Pauline Kael thing.

Or, there are big numbers on our side, and they are invisible. The midterm elections got me over that idea, in a blackpilled sort of way.

Penitent Man
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Dutch,

So we are the calculated discontents. Grognards to be expected and managed out to pasture. Foreseen? So you dont think the deplatforming,/banning/de-personing is a frantic reaction, rather, methodically calculated?

Dutch
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Dutch

Penitent Man, I see it as a combination of reaction and calculation. IMO, Facebook and Google did not set out to be the ringmasters in such work, as their roles were hard to imagine ahead of time, for no better reason than that people would not be expected to put up with it, but, sure enough, they do. The reaction/calculation calculus is a work in progress, always adjusting, always calibrating. Sort of a self-teaching AI, hiding in plain sight. Furthermore, FB and Google set out to do something new and amazing, then worked to make a lot of money with… Read more »

Penitent Man
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Dutch,

So, an overall plan but tech offered a tool of opportunity. A symbiotic relationship develops. That’s why you can juxtapose photos of young bright eyed tech teen Zuckerberg with the more savvy older Zuckerberg whispering back and forth at Angela Merkel’s knee without too much cognitive dissonance. Makes sense. I will pray that our foes are a trifle more incompetent and shortsighted than you suggest though. Itll make victory easier, or at least less bloody.

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Ostei Kozelskii

The bile heaped upon YT is a function of the Left’s near monopoly on power. They would have been doing this back in 1969 if they felt they could get away with it.

Penitent Man
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Ostei,

So you see it differently, the bile and attacks aren’t necessarily part of a plan and we aren’t being cooly calculated in this cold war… rather they are simply expressing their disgust for us, damn the consequences?

I have to admit your take is more heartening than Dutch’s. Yours implies foolishness on their part while his has the air of an implacable foe. Dont know which
rings more accurate. Maybe a fusion of both

Thanks gentlemen.

Hilltop
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Hilltop

A powerful article. I hope it’s true, in the sense of their thing not being able to hold together. It looks, however, that they are pushing harder for outright totalitarianism. The (((people))) now in charge always push for that, after getting in charge. I’m afraid we might have to go through something like what the Soviets did, before we come out the other side. I hope you’ll forgive a small gripe. The paragraph at the end begging for money is really starting to grate, especially with its emotional-blackmail-y opening (“if you care about your community…”) I always end the articles… Read more »

Penitent Man
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I guess Zman can try the shortened version with the existing version and see which one garners more support.

I noticed he took down the tongue-in-cheek bit about being a freeloader after some complaints. I thought it was amusing.

Ursula
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Ursula

The rotted brains of our ruined people didn’t get the tongue-in-cheek bit, so Z Man removed it. He should have just left it in and told the complainers to go have another bong hit, take another pill, have another drink.

Arachne
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Arachne

I liked the giant spiders one.

Carrie
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I too thought the tongue-in-cheek comment about “letting everyone else do the heavy lifting” was funny.
I guess those people who aren’t regular or long-enough readers of Mr. Z didn’t get the joke.

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People who throw around the term ‘tongue-in-cheek’ think they have some sort of special insight.

Penitent Man
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Frip, are you being cheeky?

Christopher Chantrill
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Christopher Chantrill

I would say that every nation is forged by war. That’s how you unify all the warring factions, The guy that proved that was Professor Bismarck in 1862-70. Not to mention Professor Roosevelt in 1941-45. After the war national unity slowly falls apart as political actors enact my maxim that “politics is division.”

So, if we want to put the US back together again it will probably take a war.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Dear Mr.Chantrill. No offence, but I’m not sure you’ve been paying close attintion. We are smack in the The Forever War and I for one can’t see a whole lot of national or cultural unity. Anyway, war is about money, the Great Machine only needs national or cultural unity to gather the raw materials to throw into the woodchipper.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

The Unity will come from the war on Us. Already happening, Mr. Chantrill.

That last big one gave them dominion over our lands, buying off us helots for a time while making them rich enough to proceed.

You are correct, however, they will try again. The third Brother War with Russia will finish off the White World as a power.
The BRICS One Belt is the planned replacement.

First the fathers, then the sons, then the grandsons, we must never be allowed to reunite.
Russia, remember, is European.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

One question- America’s war debt was 120% of GDP.
So… who got paid?

Who could make such loans?
Perhaps someone who had taxed ancient Egypt into bankruptcy and civil war- and then stored that loot in a great Temple.
And continued this process, of war, of debt, of slaves, of supplying the armies, for millenia.

Tykebomb
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Tykebomb

Yeah. I generally agree that the thing that brought the Irish, Italians, even the Germans into the Anglo-sphere was the experience of WW2. Too bad about all those nuclear weapons that would destroy the planet if WW3 broke out.

Exile
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Exile

On an even more granular level, absent identity, a person is a homonculus. The shabby potemkin patriotism & community we see in Numerica is the best one can expect of a nation of homonculi.

White pill: soulless consumerbot NPC’s led by Last Men have strength only in numbers. Stay alive, fam, & we’ll live to watch Mammon devour itself. Don’t be Tiananmen Tank Guy – Odysseus is a better role model for dissidents than Achilles.

Penitent Man
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In my time Lord, not my son’s. Absit!

TomA
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TomA

Western nations are being led by metastasizing governments, and government is a living thing that places it’s own survival above all else. Failure to convert it’s citizens into hive-minded insects will not be tolerated, and tyranny will be the end result when all else fails. If conformity conversion cannot be obtained by soft memetic infection, then harsher methods will be employed as necessary. That is the nature of the coming battle, not a competition to see who wins the popularity contest.

Drake
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Drake

Politics has gone the way of marketing. If you watch TV commercials from the 50s, marketing is very general – “This detergent gets your clothes clean!”, “This cereal tastes good”, or “Here’s a fun toy”. It looks quaint and refreshing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFbCGT_AWBI
Today marketing is very carefully calibrated to appeal to a specific sliver of the market. Not just sex, but age, race, geography, lifestyle, etc. The same obnoxious marketers have taken over political messaging. Logic and good of the country are both omitted from the messaging.

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Mr. Drake. Exactly. Here’s Adam Curtis and his documentary “The Century of the Self.” https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-century-of-the-self/ if I had a time machine Sigmund Freud would be one of the first freaks to catch a bullet.

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3g4me

I’d go for Franz Boas, myself. Or “Ashley Montague” (Israel Ehrenberg).

Ursula
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Ursula

George Soros.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

I see the bloody birth of the Protestant as a funded, political Tikkun Olam to attack the Roman Church. It worked, leading a century of war that was as deadly to the white world as the Black Death, and to some abandonment of hated Christianity in favor of Rationalism. Yet look at what the Whites did with it! They took the machinery of murder and turned it into the more benevolent Protestant Ethic, and Catholic scholarship, and into scientific inquiry. The nonwhites are frightened. They don’t want to to be all Crips and MS13 and Red Mao and Moghuls. If… Read more »

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Mr .Alzaebo. Herding those cats back into that bag is hard work. It’s in the very language we speak, our world view. It’s the water the fish swims in. It takes persistent effort to get modernism and post-modernism out of your skull. It’s not impossible but it takes time ,study and commitment. How many will take up the challenge?

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

I also admit I’m a fool for trying turn browns against the elites, blood will turn to blood in the end.

But I was in L.A., surrounded by the good-natured racial ribbing of decent working joes; I am too white to demand that they hate themselves, their people, or their children.

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We all get Impatient for results. But just remember, the foundation of the disaster we live with was being set in place over 300 hundred years ago.

Dutch
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Dutch

The decency of individuals, and the madness of the crowd. It was ever thus…

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Can’t say with any degree of confidence how long this interregnum will last but about that Generation Z thing…

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/24/lgbtq-acceptance-millennials-decline-glaad-survey/1503758001/

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King Tut. HAhaha! Interregnum indeed. It looks like things are progressing nicely. And I quote: “Driving the dilution of acceptance are young women whose overall comfort levels plunged from 64% in 2017 to 52% in 2018, says the survey conducted by The Harris Poll on behalf of LGBTQ advocacy group GLAAD.” Can you guess why women are leading this survey? Sports! They are sick of guys with teats butting there big wangs into girl territory. Sweet!

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I see this in my own kids. Probably the most “accepting” generation ever…yet now wondering why we have to “celebrate” and “embrace” every former DSM listed issue. My 14 year old recently asked why a parent would permit their 9 year old to dress up as a drag queen and dance for other men. She thought it was disgusting.

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Apropos of nothing, this is so insanely cringe-worthy that I couldn’t help but share with those who can appreciate its absurdity:

https://www.facebook.com/95475020353/posts/10163173374875354?s=100000662400225&v=e&sfns=xmwa

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It seems to me that a rejection of liberal democracy is identical with rule by a king. Not necessarily an absolute ruler, which seems to be what everyone imagines by the term. Instead, a selection of one man from among the local rulers to be the lord. Aragon was said to have made an oath such as, “We who are not less than you, swear to you, who are not more than we, that you shall be our king so long as you recognize our traditions and rights. And if not, then not.” Such an idea is a sort of… Read more »

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Completely agree with you. And St. Thomas Aquinas was Catholic. Hmmm… maybe The Church does know what it’s talking about…. The Catholic Church has the idea of subsidiarity, and in a Kingdom, it is possible to have a benevolent king who is supported (mostly) by all. God’s kingdom is a kingdom. Note here that I am NOT referring to the Marxist Antipope Bergoglio. I am referring to Popes BEFORE Vatican II, such as Pope Leo XIII and earlier. The Catholic Church is such a beautiful thing, but with faggy Jorge and his girlfriends, things have gotten so much worse. Benedict… Read more »

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Carrie. Show me a benevolent king and I’ll show you a hamburger. Seriously folks, this is 6/24/2019. This is a time to look to the future. “Our Interregnum” is all about blue sky thinking about what happens next. No offense meant but we are hurtling tword a future that looks a lot like the 20th Century and then some. Only this time if we don’t pull it together were going to be the jews. What I’d like to know is just how the hell are we going to get all hands on deck?

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And yet, I never hear an actual idea on what this out-of-the-box, sparkling-new, suitable for {current year}, next thing looks like.

Here’s an idea that’s positively medieval: the nation is like a body with different parts. And while some parts are feet or hands and other eyes or ears, the body cannot be healthy while a foot or a hand is in pain.

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Speaking of pain here’s a few more ideas that are positively medieval as well: The Malleus Maleficarum. And how about all those medieval torture methods. Restraint or confinement in painful or damaging positions the Barrel Pillory, or Spanish Mantle, or Drunkards’ Cloak Branks or Scold’s bridle or Gossip’s Bridle and Variants, Pillory, Stocks, Scavenger’s Daughter Animals Rats, Horses Extremes of heat and cold Boiling Water Branding Irons Brazen Bull Exposure Physical Damage – Piercing, Instep Borer, Chair of Torture or Iron Chair Impalement, Iron Maiden Physical Damage – Crushing Boot, Spanish Boot, Buskin & Foot Press Crushing Devices, Tablilla, Thumbscrews… Read more »

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We have to live life now.

So, we should outsource pain management to the North Koreans? Dilly Dilly! Also, seek help.

Samuel Adams
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I think you left out Vlad Tepe’s favorite…”The Stool of Repentage”

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Ugh, so many posters here remind me of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and that stupid “Logos” guy that’s currently sputtering retro-Catholic nonsense – the Middle Eastern radical cult called Christianity is not the way out of our mess, it was the way into it.

Carrie
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Sextus – That’s funny.
I have ban called many names in my life, but Jerry Falwell wasn’t one of them! 🙂

Are you an Athiest?

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No he’s one of these anti-Christian retards of the alt-reich. Their only ideology is Jew-hatred.

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The delusional progressive left cannot share a reality with us. Their reality is a false one.

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JMDGT I was born in Colorado and in the summer we used to go up into the rocky moutains fishing. We would have to ride horseback to some of the lakes, following deer tralis. That’s as close to reality as I ever got. And yah, the lefties are completely hopeless.

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I remember reading this in the Atlantic when it was published back in 1990 and wondering how the multi polar world was going to shake out. https://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/politics/foreign/mearsh.htm

Also not a bad idea to listen to the repost of the podcast with Herbert Meyer over at Powerline. Meyer was one of those guys that could see patterns that other couldn’t and famously told Reagan the Soviet Union was a tottering wreck when the rest of the analyst world was predicting it would economically annihilate the West.

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What is called identity politics has existed in America for hundreds of years. This is just what minority groups do. It started with Quakers who were the Jews of the 17th century. The founder of Singapore, who strongly believed in multiculturalism was eventually redpilled by reality said “In a multicultural society, all politics is identity politics” But what we are interested in is better described as anti-white politics. But even this has been around since at least the 1950s in America. America’s high trust European society was just not equipped to deal with Soviet financed and backed Jews organizing themselves… Read more »

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The liberal elites collectively realized sometime in the 1980’s that they had lost the confidence of ordinary voters in the United States. At that time, they recognized that the 1965 immigration act was causing demographic changes in our metropolitan areas causing suburbs to become more politically Left. They enacted the 1986 immigration law with the illusory promise that the U.S. government would start to enforce our immigration laws. Instead, the 1986 immigration law gave an immediate amnesty to large numbers of illegal aliens and the federal government under presidents Bush, Clinton and Obama refused to enforce our immigration laws. The… Read more »