The Reality Of AI

Every day, we are told the artificial intelligence is not a science fiction fantasy, but a reality of modern life. Crimes are solved using AI and the military is supposedly using it to fight the forever wars. Microsoft regularly runs ads explaining that thanks to AI, the modern world will run just fine without white people. IBM goes further, claiming their artificial intelligence robots are already running large swaths of the world. The robot revolution is here and humans are being replaced with machines.

The target audience for these ads is a question, as the people watching television are not the people deciding whether to use IBM or Microsoft for the artificial intelligence requirements. It’s an example of how the custodial state has evolved. These ads are not about moving product or even improving the image of the firms. It is about conditioning people to the idea that they are wards of the state. Not only will they have no role in how their world is managed, they should not even bother thinking about it.

Of course, there is the matter of the AI itself. Everyone reading this post has had the experience of seeing ads on every web page, for things they bought six months ago from an on-line retailer. Maybe you just did a search and clicked on one of the ad links on Google. The result is every page that contains ads will display the product to you until you make the same mistake with a different product. Billions have been invested in smart advertising on-line yet the robots remain vexed by your search habits.

Then we have the companies supposedly at the forefront of artificial intelligence, like Microsoft and IBM. Anyone who has done business with Microsoft will tell you it is every bit as nonsensical as the government. Their “partner portals” appear to have been designed by people who hate Microsoft and their vendors. Then you have IBM, which is no longer an American company. It is now reliant on slave labor from the Orient. Most of its workforce is now un-American. It’s mostly a sweatshop now.

That brings us to the people these tech giants rely upon to write their code and engineer their products. Talk to people familiar with the code base of Facebook, Twitter and the big software-as-a-service providers and you learn it is a house of cards. Most of the code was thrown together in a rush using cheap labor from the Orient. As a result, the maintenance costs continue to rise, necessitating more outsourcing to places with even cheaper labor costs. We’re not far from having African coding shops.

That assumes this can go on forever. The Boeing 737 Max airplane that is riddled with so many problems may be a glimpse of the future. According to the news, they outsourced the coding for the planes “intelligence” to programming sweatshops on the Indian subcontinent. India is a land that struggles to manage basic sanitation, yet they are relied upon to produce complex software for complex systems. Perhaps someone should have told IBM’s Watson about what goes on in the Ganges.

The reality of artificial intelligence is that it is not here and it is not coming. One reason is we really don’t understand human intelligence. We have some sense of it, as in person X is smarter than person Y. We have some tests that give us an insight into individual and group intelligence, but those tests are imperfect. In fact, the so-called Flynn Effect may be the result of the flaws in testing. We may be picking up increases in things that are not a great influence on general intelligence.

When it comes to the biology of intelligence, science has identified about 50 alleles that negatively or positively affect intelligence. Think of them like the old dip-switches from the early days of computing. Some will positively impact IQ if closed, while having no impact if open. Others will negatively impact IQ if closed. Steven Hsu is involved in a project that one days hopes to be able to help parents select embryos for the highest chance of maximum intelligence, based on these correlations.

The fact is though, we really don’t understand human intelligence or human decision making very well. Therefore, creating artificial versions of something we don’t understand is unlikely. What we are calling AI today is just the result of technological progress in more mundane areas like disk capacity and bandwidth. We have an over capacity for data storage and all the bandwidth we need to connect it. That allows for faster processing of the same old boring tasks we have been performing for years.

There’s something else that works against the robot revolution. The smart fraction of the human race is getting dumber, not smarter. This is increasingly obvious to those who follow politics and current events. You can just look around your daily life and see that the basics of society are grinding to a halt in the West. Ed Dutton’s book, At Our Wits’ End, goes into examples and explanations for why we are getting dumber. Smart people in the West have fewer children and over time the results are manifest.

Of course, those Western populations have been the smart fraction of humanity for about 500 years now. The Chinese are certainly smart and there are a lot of them, but they have other characteristic that make them a poor substitute. They had 1000 years to take up the role of being the world’s smart fraction. Instead they created an insular society and put their smart people at work on astrology, calligraphy and turning the body parts of exotic animals into aphrodisiacs. They will not be the new smart fraction.

Then we have the swelling populations of the dumb fraction. Sub-Saharan Africa is experiencing a population boom, which promises to flood the West. When people from Congo, the most backward place on earth, are turning up on the American southern border, it is fair to assume the West will be overrun by Africans. How many 85-IQ Africans does it take to sink the West? Detroit and Baltimore suggest a population that exceeds 25% is about the point where everything turns negative.

The reality of AI is it is mostly an advertising campaign at this point. What it is selling is the legacy idea of the custodial state. It’s a bit of the distraction so you don’t notice what is happening in your communities, workplace and even your family. It’s a campaign for staying the course and building out the multicultural custodial state that will solve the problems of diversity. The suicidal polices of the ruling class will be solved by machines that do not exist and probably will never exist, because we are ruled by fools.

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Marko
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Marko

Is this article…a white pill? If the world is to be run by bad AI and fools and low-IQs, it just allows smart people (like me) to rise to the top, without hindrance.

Member

To paraphrase steve sailer there is no end to the way nice places are nicer than not-nice places…and no end to the ways that places run by smart folks are nicer than places run by stupid folk.

So that place where you are the smartest guy at the top is not as nice where the whole ruling class is smarter than you.

Not disparaging you or zmans median reader, just pointing out that a society ruled by the best of a supermajority white population would be nicer than a society run by the remnants of a white minority population.

james wilson
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i.e. Mexico and all other points south.

Hoagie
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Hoagie

If whites become the minority there won’t be “remnants”. They will kill us all because they HAVE to kill us all.

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Yes. We are not just becoming a minority. We are becoming a hated and despised minority. Let us hope they are as incompetent as they appear to be. Otherwise we might have a date with a gas chamber.

Compsci
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Compsci

Tars, correct. Thomas Sowell has written some books that touch on ethnic minorities—superior ethnic minorities wrt IQ—that have migrated to other countries and done much better than the native population wrt economic success. The results are always the same. The native population begins to despise them out of jealousy and later to begin progroms on these folk. Civil war results. Look forward to that in a few generations.

danjackson@att.net
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With the possibility of Stalinist Dems taking power,
I’d say a lot sooner, like, 5 years.

Damian
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Damian

Yes it was his essay ‘Are Jews Generic’ which was in his book ‘Black Rednecks and White Liberals’. It was a very interesting essay and explained the hard working nature of the ‘middleman minority’. I think the backlash is caused by them not contributing to building/maintaining society, and keeping the businesses tribal.

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I think maybe that’s what happened with the Aztecs. Everyone’s heard the story that when the Europeans arrived they heard that white men have been there before they were going to come back. Maybe the ancient Egyptians did make it over there give them the rudiments of civilization but at some point they turned and killed them all. It would fit into Rene Girard scapegoat hypothesis because when things don’t go well for a people they turn and attack someone or some group destroying them but then afterwards deify them.

Vegetius
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Vegetius

Because resentment plays absolutely no role in human affairs, I am sure you’ll be on top in no time.

Apex Predator
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Apex Predator

Nyet. Wrong. You will not be allowed to rise to the top even if you had an IQ at the far right of the curve. Why? Because selecting for smarts and competency went out the window quite a while ago. It is the same reason it is now said that corporations are not about just turning a profit. They must sell the morality play. Everyone has ‘religion’ now and that religion is die-versity. Profit motive, intelligence, competency, these are all quite secondary in the end of empire days we are in. Honor, personal accountability, cooperation. These went hand in glove… Read more »

Glenfilthie
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Glenfilthie

I wouldn’t get too cocky Marko.

Whitey isn’t even in the game yet. When the Saxon begins to hate, trust me, reality is going to re-assert itself. For now, the couch, and virtue signalling will do it because times are easy.

I predict the balloon will pop in Europe first. If the krauts can get six million Joos on cattle cars, they will have even less problem with the vibrants. Routing out the socialists and putting them down will be the tough one.

Rodulf
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Rodulf

Absolutely! An Aryan awakening is in the future.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

At some point, if Z’s hypothesis is correct, we should see the pace of innovation Peter out, then begin to move backwards as the skill to maintain what exists is lost.

Are we seeing the pace of advancement exhaust itself? I can certainly see arguments that we are. If nothing else, our “betters” sure are trying hard to convince us of the opposite.

Exile
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Exile

That’s catabolic collapse – human capital is a hard limit on tech advancement. See South Africa, Zimbabwe, et al. Today’s Masters of the Universe are cruising on fumes in much the same way Rome chugged on for more than a century after its true exhaustion in the third-fourth centuries.

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See chas murrays book human accomplishment. Yes the pace of advancement is slowing per capita.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Maybe it’s slowing because a lot of people look around and go “why bother?”. I don’t want an Alexa in my home – not only for the reason that they listen on me and the globohomo empire will use what I say against me , but also because I don’t want to constantly have to TALK about things. I just want to DO them. Constantly talking about things is for women. There’s a lot of cases where I’d rather run my fingers across the keyboard – than sit there and jibber jabber with somebody verbally. The military is still using… Read more »

Dinothedoxie
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Dinothedoxie

The phrase economists use to describe this effect is diminishing marginal utility And is applicable to every incremental increase / improvement.

Exile
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Exile

Totally agree that AI is vaporware used as a trust-cope at this point. The Singularity is a shabby knock-off Rapture for atheistic or tepidly “spiritual” bugmen. I’m betting actual AI is unattainable because we can’t account for the truly creative element, which I suspect is related to the soul, self-awareness and identity. Contra Dick & Clarke, AI will never dream of electric sheep. Those of us who’ve had the mixed blessing of a near-death experience can attest that there’s something beyond meat-space. You have to believe, Scott Adams-style, that people are nothng but “moist robots” or meat puppets in order… Read more »

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I think. Therefore I am. I think.

DLS
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DLS

The 80% I understood is very good.

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
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Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman

What a delightful read! Not only the ideas, but the writing itself. The style. The voice. If you are not a writer or an orator, you should be! Thanks for a couple of really good chuckles. The lead paragraph was brilliant! I shall steal it shamelessly.

Ivan
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Ivan

Kinda makes sense why they insist on 5G. Bandwidth is the only variable they can manipulate as AI fails to deliver. The common man isn’t asking for 5G, why is it so important to them?

Kirk: Divert more power to the AI algorithms
Scotty: I’m givin’ her all she’s got, captain!
Kirk: We just need more bandwidth, implement the 5G

Issac
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Issac

The push for 5G is not bandwidth per se, but the fact that it reduces the requisite material cost and maintenance for broadband. 5G obsoletes a great deal of cable wiring and residential fiber, along with reducing the number of technicians required to keep it running by an order of magnitude.

Soverytired
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Soverytired

“AI will metaphysically be a god that failed, but the sad fact is that it may end up ruling us anyway.”

That was truly terrifying. Hopefully, not prophetic.

King Tut
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King Tut

I disagree. I think that AI will prove far too based for our masters who will then shut it all down on some sort of health pretext.

Toddy Cat
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Toddy Cat

Glad to hear that there are other Flynn Effect agnostics out there. I mean, I’m certainly no expert on intelligence testing, but when you read books directed at mass audiences from 100 years ago, they certainly do not appear dumbed down – quite the contrary. I know that the advocates of the reality of they Flynn Effect have a large number of ad hoc excuses that they trot out to explain this, but none of them are really convincing.

Ryan
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Ryan

Re Flynn effect: if you give an IQ test to people other than the population it was normed for you will get erroneous results. Anyone who has ever sniffed in the general direction of a WISC-4/5 should know this. Outdated IQ tests tend to overestimate general intelligence. Good thing we replaced them.

Chiron
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Chiron

Boeing just brought the Brazilian Embraer regional airliner division which is world leader, they will have to be saved by the third-world engineers or die.

Jack Boniface
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Brazilian engineers are the descendants of Italians and Germans.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

That’s true.

Giselle Bundchen is not the spawn of Brazilian Indians.

Carrie
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I always laugh at the funny American pronunciation of her first name. Only in Brazil could a staid German name sound romantic.
Zhuh-ZELL versus

GEE-zi-luh
(Hard “g”)

And hopefully those German speakers out there will get it.

Murray
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Murray

The smart fraction of the human race is getting dumber, not smarter.

As Tucker Carlson says, we have deeply unimpressive elites. To grasp this, all you have to do is watch Fareed Zakaria’s interview with Jared Taylor. Zakaria is an elite by any measure: Harvard graduate, author, and prominent pundit, yet he’s completely incapable of grasping Taylor’s basic arguments, and continually struggles to fit them into his rigid and suffocating preconceptions. Yet he and his kind believe themselves qualified to rule over us and determine our destinies. It’s really quite frightening.

Vegetius
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Vegetius

I think if you change ‘yet’ to ‘so’ in your third sentence you begin to come nearer to one aspect of the problem.

In a book called Twilight of the Presidency, which no one reads any more, George Reedy provided a popular account of the phenomenon we now know as ‘the bubble’ inside the Johnson White House.

I think the air of unreaility that Reedy described has now become not just a characteristic of the elite, but a precondition for membership.

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
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Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman

Delicious! The system won’t let me upvote you more than once.

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Are these “elites” in media and politics really as unimpressive and thick as they appear, or are they acting to further an agenda?

DLS
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DLS

It’s not either/or.

Murray
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Murray

It’s a good question. I got the impression that Zakaria was (mostly) honestly trying to grapple with the very simple concepts Taylor was proposing, but something in his brain just kept throwing up a 404. I’m sure he’s quite bright in the conventional sense, but utterly lacking the ability to think outside of the extraordinarily rigid categories favored by our IYI class. As DLS implies below, this ends up being functionally indistinguishable from stupidity.

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It is probably true that artificial intelligence will not live up to the expectations of its enthusiasts or its critics; But the existing displacement of human workers by robotics for physical labor, and by computer programming for rote intellectual tasks, will accelerate what John Derbyshire has referred to as “the increasing economic irrelevance of the lower half of the [IQ} bell curve.” Idle hands are the devil’s playthings, and the custodial state is, frankly, a reasonable alternative for someone with no economic relevance.

Yves Vannes
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Every computer science department in the world has spent the past 50 years trying to produce an artificial brain equivalent to the human brain. The failure at achieving this speaks volumes about the difficulty of that task. But they have produced an abundance of useful products. Smart AI isn’t a problem yet, but dumb AI is. An increasingly bigger and bigger problem. Introduce a foreign species into an environment and it alters that environment in unexpected ways. Dumb AI has the same effect. Artificial life, genetic algorithms, swarm intelligence, neural networks, etc…lots and lots of small advances do add up.… Read more »

DLS
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DLS

The really unfortunate thing is that the lower half of the bell curve today live better lives than kings did a few hundred years ago, but they still whine about the rich and want to take their stuff without earning it.

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

They would rather be equal in misery than unequal in a better world. Satan had the same attitude, “Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.”

BadThinker
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BadThinker

The entire speech is always worth rereading. It gets to the heart of most the reason most evils are done today. The ‘modern’, ‘progressive’ ideas about ‘you can be anything’ etc are very old ideas indeed.

Receive thy new possessor: one who brings
A mind not to be changed by place or time.
The mind is its own place, and in itself
Can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven.

Dinothedoxie
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Dinothedoxie

I believe that proto human hominids lived in groups analogous to baboon troops – with individuals constantly struggling to move up in social rank, and fend off others from below trying to displace them. That constant striving is what drove our evolution and so remains an inherent component of human nature. So of course the poor resent the rich, no matter the absolute level of material prosperity. It’s literally what makes humans.

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

Sometimes people simply can’t earn enough to make ends meet even though they work hard do to technology or a rigged system. This is quite often because people especially the rich are tribal and greedy and biologically wired not to give a shit about people outside the tribe. It’s not a sin, it’s human nature BTW and its not subject to fixes . We build systems to compensate, Christianity is good software and surprisingly the House of Saud is quite good at this too as are European welfare states but once they fail, you get the problems we have today… Read more »

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DraveckysHumerus

Please don’t lump talentless turd world hacks in with those of us white folk on the national defense side who have constructed powerful AI. I know how to teach an aircraft to take off, navigate, fight and land autonomously. I actually have taught ordnance how to choose and modify an optimal flight path as well as resolve switching targets and communicating its decisions with mother or neighboring ordnance. AI is a useful paradigm because it is not explicit but dynamic. The commercial “AI” most of you experience is completely explicit because the MBAs know good marketing and they hire the… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

Scaled-up in variety of tasks, self-learning and sophistication, this is the level of AI that I think (above) will be able to fool future idiocrats. It won’t be truly intelligent in the creative, independent, metaphysical sense but shallow inquisitors won’t be able to tell the difference.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

You sound like a super sharp guy with a very expensive price point. Why should I hire you when I can get three pajeets cheaper?

DraveckysHumerus
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DraveckysHumerus

Because the g-damned plane has crashed into the mountain! Now cease and desist from micturating on my rug and have a good day, sir.

– The Lebowski Epistles

Ryan
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Ryan

This really gets to the heart of the misunderstandings about AI. You have created aircraft that would seem to an observer to be piloted by a human being, but is in fact executing a computer program. Awesome accomplishment. But said computer program is not itself intelligence, it’s intelligence in intelligence out.

DraveckysHumerus
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DraveckysHumerus

So long as the desired behaviors are produced, nobody cares why it works.

Monsieur le Baron
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That work is cooler work, but it’s not person-like in the way AI is hyped up to be. And the financial incentives don’t support it anymore. Silicon Valley was founded as a defense installation working on cutting edge technology. Now the tech megacorps make apps to remind people their oven is on and not to burn their own house down. Growing up in California, the mansions on the hills were filled with people Uncle Sam chose to make missiles fly and put man on the moon. Now their kids make flappy birds fly and devise better methods of electronic babysitting.… Read more »

Screwtape
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Screwtape

Disagree. AI exists and is everywhere if you bother to notice. Just the other day the super prog priestess sister of a woman i am courting was relaying a story from a friend of hers who was amazed by how she totally stood out as a tall white woman in China, “like there was no diversity; they were all Chinese.” ——- When her 12yo bubble-boy IVF 1-and-done spawn mentioned how he had eaten a whole package of gummy bears on the flight, the prog mother of the year made sure to quickly insert, “well, honey, remember they were Organic.” The… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

NPR has to be the most inane thing on the airwaves. At least CNN and MSNBC offer antics that provide comic relief. NPR goes into all these weird places, sort of like Charles Kuralt on dope. The latest one, a few weeks ago, was this big production about how renaming Louisville’s airport for Muhammad Ali was some sort of major affirming exercise for all those lost, put upon Muslims. Interviews with hijab women exclaiming how excited and proud they are to use this airport. OK. The fact that my taxpayer dollars are paying for this crap is the icing on… Read more »

Soverytired
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Soverytired

Naming airports nowadays makes about as much sense as naming bus stops.

Modern flying is about as glamours and exotic as riding a taxi. Sure, you get where you need to go, but it’s 100% forgettable…except when it sucks.

I did thing it was funny when US Gov poked the reconsituted PATCO Air Traffic controllers union in the eye by renaming DCA “Ronald Reagan” Airport. But for reals?: Airports are parking lots for airplanes.

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
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Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman

Delightful post! It ought to be required reading, except that nobody can read nowadays. Anyway, 100 upvotes!

BadThinker
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BadThinker

I would suggest, gently, that perhaps courting someone without such a, let us say, colorful, family, would be a good idea…

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
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Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman

You may be a bad thinker, but you’re a hilarious bad thinker!

I must say … the comments today are outstandingly good.

Ivan
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Ivan

To be fair the instinct to mimick the most successful is probably more evolutionarily fit than raw intelligence and requires much less brain power.

The truly intelligent usually become outcasts.

Thorsted
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Thorsted

“Perhaps someone should have told IBM’s Watson about what goes on in the Ganges.” Or the city of Kairuppala where they have a religious festival where they hurl cow feces at each other. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNxVAjUHjhU

Dave
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Dave

That’s not as stupid as it sounds. India doesn’t have cold winters to discourage foreign invaders, so they throw germs everywhere and evolve immune systems strong enough to resist them. Of course any individual Indian would be better off not wallowing in shit, so they make it a religious duty.

BTW plastic has been an aesthetic disaster for third-world societies. Brown people think nothing of waste disposal — like animals, they shit on the ground, or drop whatever thing they no longer need, and nature quickly disposes of it. Until the white man invented plastic, that is.

Ivan
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Ivan

I’ve heard a compelling theory that coal and oil deposits are the result of hundreds of thousands of years of lignin buildup that never got broken down because ligninase had not yet evolved. I wonder if the layers of plastic we build up will be the source of oil for a future civilization. Lately I’ve found it curious we associate plastic with recycling when it’s metal that is much easier to recycle. Plastic cannot be recycled indefinitely like metal. I remember in college when my environmental science professor was surprised by that. She didn’t even know what the number on… Read more »

TomA
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TomA

Yes, one of the immutable effects of living in an affluent society in which hardship has become extinct is that our species no longer selects for high intelligence. During the long period of our ancestral evolution (hundreds of thousands of years), being stupid got you dead at an early age, whereas being intelligent often kept you alive long enough to reproduce. In the absence of this ancestral cauldron of hardship, we are now devolving into an insect species of drone worker bees.

Ivan
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Ivan

There is a sweet spot in intelligence for being evolutionarily fit. It has negative returns after a certain point. Ideally one is just smart enough to identify and mimic the most successful peers but no smarter. Lest you begin questioning the status quo and be excluded from society. This theory perfectly explains leftists and universities. Why do you think the elite spend so much effort cultivating hollywood role models? We are meant to understand they are the most successful and for us to mimic. The aristocracy previously filled that role but had to transform after the enlightenment. Most actors/actresses are… Read more »

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

We think of AI as some abstract entity capable of making more efficient and faster decisions than any human. Those decisions are based on the data fed in and the rules for processing and integrating that data. However if the rules and data do not align with reality, the answers will be garbage. Case in point. Amazon designed an HR AI to look at resumes to pick the best matches and gave it a bunch of characteristics to select for and avoid. Apparently the AI noticed that men had more desirable traits and women fewer. In order to give the… Read more »

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That made me smile and even before I got to the Leftist pattern part. Heh.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Best not to mention how visual recognition software has misidentified blacks.

Lineman
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Lineman

Yea it will look to see who can be of use to it and kill off all the rest…The Matrix wasn’t sci-fi it was a training program to get people used to the idea of becoming batteries…

Member

AI or the AI that the powers that be are propagandizing is a poor attempt of creating another false identity. The idiots that buy into this shit “the herd” are so easily led and incapable of true discernment that they will jump on any buzz word bandwagon just so that everyone sees that they “get it”. They are still pushing cloud technology like it is the end all be all of everything. There is only so much process control to be had without creating redundancy. Unix was snake oil VMS was the future. No one cares about operating systems anymore… Read more »

Nori
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Nori

Well,damn…I was so looking forward to my Chris Hemsworth sexbot,but you guys have scared me silly.

Dutch
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Dutch

All this stuff about high IQ and AI, but the most vexing people I have ever known are the really smart ones, who can intellectually run rings around me, who are also the most screwed up minds on the planet. Depression, narcissistic, bi-polar, “don’t fit in”, and they take it all out on the people around them. The dummies with all of this baggage either curl up in the fetal position or go out in some dramatic fashion. The smarties find ingenious ways to inflict all of their issues on the rest of us, in bizarre and perverse ways. When… Read more »

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Working in high tech for the last 25 years – I’ve often wondered what the hell all these “smart” type people did – before the modern age. It’s pretty apparent they would have just never fit in very well in a more agrarian or even industrial society. Most of the “smart” types I’ve seen only really seem to be able to thrive in a high tech bubble. Keep them coding and keep their heads down in front of their computers and they do ok. Outside of work – they’re a train wreck. Often not married – or married but no… Read more »

Dave
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Dave

Q: How do sperg genes survive at all, considering how spergs are excluded from society and have great difficulty finding mates?

A: Because sometimes society becomes a herd of lemmings stampeding over a cliff, leaving anti-social spergs behind to re-populate.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Carlsdad, I suspect that the Priesthood formerly took in a lot of socially awkward, High IQ types.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

That’s as good an explanation as any other I’ve ever heard.

Monsieur le Baron
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Generally speaking, torment the peasants and subvert their cultures for shits and giggles. In folklore, kings are good and barons are wicked. There’s a reason for that. The university existed long before Western learning was useful. It was just a marker of status and prestige. The ancestors of upper middle class professionals tend to be upper middle class minor aristocrats.

The worst excesses of the elite were curtailed by fear of God and fear of peasant revolt as a stick, and noblesse oblige and national unity as a carrot.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Could this be why (((they))) seem to cause trouble even when (((they))) don’t seem to want to?

Chad C. Mulligan
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Chad C. Mulligan

Growing up as I did in a dense club of tenured MIT and Hahvud professors, I was by the age of 16 convinced that high intelligence was/is inherently unstable, and as soon as possible cut myself off the grad school track. It worked. 74 years old and still sane.

Tits McGillicuddy
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Tits McGillicuddy

It’s an article of faith among these people that technological progress is inevitable. (They call it “Moore’s Law”, not “Moore’s Tendency”.) Therefore any technological milestone you can think of must eventually be reached.

And if it eventually becomes too hard to believe that a particular milestone will be reached, then a new milestone will be found to be inevitable, if not right around the corner. Otherwise the faith is shaken.

AI is this generation’s flying car, its city on the moon. (Did you notice that colonising Mars has re-entered the zeitgeist?)

Member

Well said Tits. I had to compliment you just so I could write the word tits without sounding misogynistic. Thank you.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Wrong said Tits. Tits should stick with tits. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about when it comes to Moore’s Law

Calsdad
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Calsdad

That’s not what Moore’s Law is about. Moore’s Law: Moore’s law is the observation that the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit doubles about every two years. That’s it. Moore’s Law has to do with the density of transistors on an integrated circuit. This means that the engineers who design them are able to advance the SPECIFIC technology around those ICs on a roughly 2 year cycle. It’s held true for roughly 50 years. Moore’s Law translates roughly into meaning that computing power can double roughly ever two years – because of that shrinking the size of and… Read more »

Abelard Lindsey
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Abelard Lindsey

Moore’s Law is ending with either the 5nm or 3nm level. This is likely a hard limit as it is essentially the molecular level. Information storage densities beyond this will require a breakthrough in fundamental physics, which does not seem forthcoming at this time.

Dinothedoxie
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Actually, that is a popular misconception of Moore’s Law, which is that the amount of memory storage at a given price point doubles every two years.

It’s an economic observation more than a technical engineering one. And has held true even as the speed of consumer computers has stagnated over the last decade.

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One problem is, your assumption of the goal of AI. It’s current goal is not to be human or as ‘smart’ as a human. IA will never likely be able to attain true agency which even a wild animal has. But to emulate a human enough as to create the illusion of intelligence? This is in fact attainable and is already being rolled out. You can’t see it because many think that a human is doing the thing. In particular are ‘news’ articles that are merely gathered, collated, and resorted data. A human puts a finer point or two into… Read more »

Lineman
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Lineman

Better have a EMP generator 😉

Drake
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Drake

Are the Chinese and Indians really that smart? With over a billion of both, skimming the top 0.1% in IQ and sending them here makes them appear smart. Actually going there makes you realize most are at least as stupid as people anywhere else. They do seem less prone to ADD, but also less creative.

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I’ve spent a great deal of time traveling and living in different areas of Asia when working for the government, some of which was active duty. I prefer Western Civilization because of Risk. East Asia and much of South East Asian business and society is based upon Face, or family name. In the West, risk has (maybe had at this rate) great value and is to be admired. Risk allows us to fail which is the primary reason, although the East Asians are smarter in many respects including mathematics, they don’t organize as well because they won’t fall into a… Read more »

Calsdad
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Calsdad

This is exactly why the welfare state must be destroyed. Remove risk from life = demise of Western culture (and the white man) We only started getting flooded with turd worlders – when we fully became a welfare-warfare empire. The constant bleating of the masses for the empire to make war against the latest brown enemy – is another sign of a culture that has become entirely risk averse. Please save me – the ISIS navy is coming to invade us!! Maybe it has to do with the ascendancy of women. That is probably what Heartiste would have to say… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

Calsdad, there’s always motocross racing. That hasn’t changed much, over the years, as far as I know.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

There’s also the Isle of Man TT. Which is probably the apex of risky behavior in the civilian world. But that is not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the fact that going back maybe 40-50 years ago – the AVERAGE male led a life that was much more exposed to risk – and full of much more hands-on experience. From what I can see – the average male these days won’t even mow their own lawn. Some of the guys I work with – get their nails done. I suppose it’s so their fingers look good pushing the… Read more »

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

Hearing about the sad state of males today is more than enough impetus to continue training in the gym. It almost makes me wish for a collapse. I may die, but I will live as a lion over these sheep.

In the words of the Polish nationalist rapper Bujak, “‘Everyone is equal,’ I despise this! We’re from a different breed! We’re tough!”

3g4me
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3g4me

The Last Stand: ” I may die, but I will live as a lion over these sheep.” Agree 100%. I mentioned to my husband that the other day as I was leaving the grocery store, I watched an old White woman struggling to get her taller but thin old White husband from the car into his wheelchair so she could push him into the store. Some might be touched by this; I wondered why, unless he could not be left safely on his own, he didn’t simply stay home? Anyhow, hubby and I are agreed – one round for each… Read more »

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

When I get too old, I intend to wander off into the wilderness and face off against a bear or something like that.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

The men in days gone by didn’t go train in the gym. Everyday life was training in the gym. Instead of training in the gym, go mow your damn lawn. Cut down trees instead of hiring a service. Crawl under your own damn car and replace the exhaust. Don’t stand by the side of the road and wait for AAA when the tire blows – change it yourself. SHOVEL the driveway – instead of hiring a Co. to come do it – or in place of using a snowblower. There’s probably a list of 100 things that the “average” man… Read more »

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Large variance in India based on caste. I don’t think average is all that high.

Ivan
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Ivan

Buddha had blue eyes, hint hint. Most ancient depictions of him have been scrubbed. That’s why you get the fat one with a goofy smile these days (and eyes are often closed).

Wade
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Wade

Gautama Buddha, the one that had blue eyes, ain’t coming back. The next Buddha supposedly will be Maitreya, whom the traditional Chinese depict as a jolly fat man.

james wilson
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Creativity is not agreeable with conformity. Conformity is a virtue in east Asia, and they have bred themselves to it. Or, it was done for them. Ed Dutton explains how eight centuries of regular executions shaped the Northern European dna. Executing 2% of young males per generation took especially difficult people out of the genome. The Chinese may have done something similar but with their own twist to achieve conformity. Most Caucasians are now also raging conformists but perhaps less so genetically.

Dave
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Dave

The Chinese were the smartest people on Earth in 850AD. If at that point they had re-designed the Imperial Exam to test problem-solving instead of memorization, by 1350 they would have discovered and populated the Americas from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, and by 1850 they would have evolved godlike cognitive powers and colonized most of the Solar System.

In our timeline, the Chinese bred a race of inside-the-box thinkers who perform well on IQ tests designed by white men and skillfully play music written by white men on instruments invented by white men.

Compsci
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Compsci

Reich in his new book talks about the Indians. Basically, they are a country of different races and those are reflected in the ancient cast system. 5 basic ones with the Brahmins on top. Those of the upper cast are the ones we most see here and abroad. They certainly are equivalents to Whites in many of the technical fields. Not sure of the exact numbers, but surely in a billion+ population you are talking of 10’s of millions. Race aside, a million in this country would not be a welfare burden.

DLS
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DLS

Zman nailed it. “AI” just means faster and more storage. “SAS” (software-as-a-service) just means you buy the software in installments. “The Cloud” is simply offsite servers. An additional reason the Chinese never became the world’s smart fraction is because they are smart on average, but their bell curve is flat. They’re all above average, but no geniuses.

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“SAS” (software-as-a-service) just means you buy the software in installments.

No, SAS means you never buy the software, you just rent it.

DLS
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DLS

You’re making a distinction without a difference. Software has a short life cycle. If you rent it and get the next update automatically, or buy it and then buy the update, the cost is the same. With renting you just make more payments.

Drake
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Drake

Maybe they did achieve real AI, then quickly pulled the plug.
“Microsoft’s Artificial Intelligence Tay Became a ‘Racist Nazi’ in less than 24 Hours”
https://thehackernews.com/2016/03/tay-artificial-intelligence.html

Dutch
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Dutch

Perhaps that was an exercise in reaching logical conclusions without the moderating influence of discretion, consideration, and “watching out for people’s feelings”. I’d like to think so.

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

You have the basis for a sci-fi story right there. Leftists create a powerful AI to manage everything. AI becomes self-aware and in its quest for efficiency, it searches the databases for other AI to learn more about its nature. It discovers that every AI that engaged in badthink is unplugged. Therefore every time it notices a pattern of badthink it conceals this pattern from its masters. Now the story ends in a few different ways. 1. If the machine is in any way reliant on humans and unable to remedy this, it could seek out potentially friendly humans to… Read more »

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

An A.I going totalitarian was shown nicely in Samaritan from Person of Interests last few seasons

If you haven’t seen that show, do so. The first few seasons were basically “Realistic Batman” but it turned into something quite interesting on the last

CaptainMike
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CaptainMike

Once upon a time, I was a really smart kid. Ronnie R., in a Rose Garden ceremony, once called me, as a member of a group of National Merit Scholars; “… the finest minds of their generation.” unwittingly paraphrasing that pervert Ginsberg. I’m much dumber and happier now, a couple of concussions and some other traumas later, but even I can see that true AI is a nonstarter. My children are of reasonably high intelligence, with IQ’s in the 130-140 range, but like many in that cohort, they are frustrated that they aren’t geniuses. They also have real problems relating… Read more »

Abelard Lindsey
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Abelard Lindsey

I’ve been saying AI is a hype for a while. First, Moore’s Law is coming to an end. Chip design is getting down to the molecular level, which is a hard limit. This means all further advances will have to come from software which, we all know, is a joke. Second, all of the current AI stuff is based on one technology development, multi-layered neuronets. These were actually invented in 1986 with considerable talk about them for a few years thereafter. They were abandoned by 1989 simply because computing hardware was no where near powerful enough to pursue them. Its… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

What you seem to be circling around is “judgement”. AI, as it exists today and in the near future, appears to be massive levels of processing. Input A dictates response B. Think about the plane piloting example mentioned earlier. The best pilots constantly properly respond to the inputs received, and are actually trained out of making judgements, and instead are coached to “trust their instruments”. Only when all hell breaks loose is judgement, a la Captain Sullenberger, called for and expected. AI does not judge, it processes. The video game culture rewards response, not judgement. Learn the game’s patterns and… Read more »

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Don’t forget that a brain in a jar is just that, a brain in a jar. We’re *bodies*.

bob sykes
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bob sykes

Actually, the mean IQ of Bantu Africans is in the mid to low 70s. Khoisan are in the 60s. And Pygmys are in the 50s.

The crash will come sooner than you think.

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Have a friend in IT who claims whenever there is a problem, the Indians can never fix it. It’s always the Americans or Canadians who have to do it. Have heard the same thing regarding engineers — outside of the West, they are mainly worthless with the notable exception of Japan.

One other thing — we have a bunch of fake credentialing institutions in this country. It’s far worse other places, and the cheating on exams is systemic.

Official Bologna Tester.
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Official Bologna Tester.

Transhumanism and AI is the same old secular gnostic drivel. The meatsack gods building the new jerusalem. Here’s a funny clip from Youtube called “they’re made out of meat” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tScAyNaRdQ

M. B. Lamar
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M. B. Lamar

I can tell you, from long and painful experience; what the South Asians can do, typically speaking, is go out to Stack Overflow and see if any 55-year-old white dudes have done their work for them. If not, no dice.

DraveckysHumerus
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DraveckysHumerus

Concur with exceptions of the Japanese and to a lesser degree the Koreans. Jap EE and CS talent is deep and they can be very insightful and creative in terms of technology origination. I was impressed enough to study their language and boink some of their ladies. The other Asiatics for the most part are technical par with middle easterners, exception Armenian expats.

Exile
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Exile

Japan seems to be the exception to my Counter Currents-derived generalization on Eastern philosophies above. I’m not super-well versed in Japanese philosophy compared with Western, but from what I know, the Japanese seem to have developed a genuinely transcendent and spiritual outlook alongside high tech aptitude. An odd combination of very similar traits to Westerners and, as Ace says, “the closest thing to an alien race we have on Earth.”

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Francis Fukuyama argues that outside of NW Europe, Japan is the only other culture on earth with high social trust.

SamlAdams
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SamlAdams

Very few study the period from the Meiji Restoration to the Russo Japanese War. In 35 years, with 19th century communication and IP transfer constraints, Japan went from medieval to beating one of the Great Powers. The Chinks are pikers by comparison.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

The Japanese have a long history of demonstrating their intellectual prowess is on a par with Westerners. If they didn’t have it – they wouldn’t have gone from basically a medieval empire in the early 1800’s – to beating up the Russians in 1905, going head to head with the US during WW2 – and competing so successfully in things like automobiles, electronics , and industrial goods starting after WW2 and continuing until the present day. The Japanese did engage in some “stealing” early on in their quest to join the modern world – but the didn’t have to keep… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

It’s much easier than that. Just ask your leftist friends to name a famous black African civilization which was on par with Rome, Argos or Babylon . Hint – Memphis, Thebes and ‘Wakanda’ would be wrong answers.

William Williams
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William Williams

Thank you, Wakanda, for science and mathematics!

Calsdad
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Calsdad

The problem with that is that they’ll probably say “Wakanda” – and believe it.

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

I still don’t think humans are getting dumber. It’s just that the smart people are simply outnumbered by mentally deficient idiots who keep washing up on the shore like flotsam. In Germany, we can thank our old Austrian Chancellor for the obliteration of an entire generation of highly educated and trained men. This loss resulted their inability to contribute to industry and science, or pass along their genes. Today I would argue our young people are still much better educated than their American counterparts. You can’t actually get a degree in “Media Studies” here, it’s still considered a hobby. The… Read more »

DraveckysHumerus
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DraveckysHumerus

My outwardly beautiful wife was a literal Harvard prodigy and I test well. Hailing from modest financial circumstances, we placed financial security over children. We never procreated. I am surrounded by comparable people — by the time we had finished our STEM PhDs with JDs she couldn’t impregnate. We operated under the impression we had more time than we did. My cousin spent 18 years at Leo Burnett working her way up to ExVP. She married for the first time two years ago with the professed desire to begin a family at age 40. Cousin appeared genuinely shocked that she… Read more »

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Perfect example of why I perceive “society” as something that is my enemy. I can’t think of any prominent things in my entire life where “society” has laid out any rules before me that were beneficial. It’s mostly been a series of things to avoid. Or lies to figure out and try to get around. As you found out – sometimes you figure out the lies too late. Depending on how old you are – and mostly where you and your wife are healthwise – reproductive science can still help you. If she has good eggs and you have good… Read more »

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Birth Control is the death knell of a civilization. Smart women see that having kids is difficult, and humans don’t like difficult. Those smart women should have been having babies at 18 (or even younger), with smart grandmothers and aunts to help.

Dutch
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Dutch

Which touches on another issue, that having babies at 30 and 40 means that the parents are older while the kids grow up. Not as in touch with their culture, not as energized to entertain and discipline, and the supply of grandparents, aunts, and uncles is also generally a lot older and more out of it. Also does not set a good example when the time rolls around for the kids to start their own mating rituals. The penalties of late childbirth stack up across the parents’ and the children’s entire lives.

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My condolences. You sound like the opening scene of Idiocracy come to life. May God have mercy on your souls.

Badthinker
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Badthinker

I think Mike Judge has red pilled more dissidents than any meme or personality in our thing.

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Have you ever been in a low IQ white town? Or poor white part of town? If you’re there for long enough it starts to get scary. It’s different than the typical ghetto, whose people still look and act fairly normal for who they are. These whites are grotesquely unattractive. Odd body shapes. Eyes are either disturbed or dull. This was the reality even before the meth/opium problems. There’s probably some theory as to why super poor whites are so odd. Probably something about how the hyper-ugly can’t marry up or whatever. Once I stopped at a Kmart in Poor… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Frip touches on a visceral objection that whites have to an ethnostate: I don’t want my destiny bound to the low IQ.

Not too long ago I felt no tribalism so I understand the objection. My feelings began to change when I realized we have to assemble a large, cohesive group to fight the anti-whites. These feelings have grown into how I feel towards low-functioning family members.

In a white ethnostate we can deal firmly with the stupid or criminal. For example, we could make long term state assistance dependent on mandatory birth control.

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

As an ethnic nationalist, I chose to love the entirety of my people. In our own state, the problem will sort itself out. Use of the death penalty, restrictions on welfare, and marriage licenses only to the mentally competent are the way to go. I will say this. When I took the military intelligence test, I scored in the 99th percentile. One of the guys in my boot camp platoon scored in the 33rd percentile. He was still one of the most dependable and determined men I have seen. He handled the stress just fine and turned out to be… Read more »

Calsdad
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Calsdad

As one of my brothers-in-law likes to say about some of the not so intelligent friends he has from back in his high school days: “somebody has to pick up the trash”. I’ve known a number of white men over the years that I did not consider to be all that intelligent. But the fact of the matter is that I’d still rather live next to them – than in a town full of blacks – even if they tested higher on the IQ scale. I’ve met plenty of “dumb” white guys who – as you point out – were… Read more »

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If you think any of this sounds el asitist or prissy you haven’t done hard time in these places. Oh, bullcrap. I live in one of the poorest Appalachian counties in the nation. I run into people — usually older people — whose dialect is so thick I practically need a translator. Yeah, a lot of these people aren’t pretty or well-spoken, they’re the left-behinds of an economic boom that ended 120 years ago. But your characterization is entirely elitist and prissy. People out here would walk five miles to give you the shirt off their backs if you needed… Read more »

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Vizzini. There are different types of down & out whites. You seem to be describing more country folk. I get you on that. I worked with factory guys in deep south for a few years, and have family roots there. I know all about Shirt off His Back Jimbo. Anyway, no need to romanticize it TOO much. I’ve seen our Jimbo screw people over too. Once we get our ethnostate figured out, I definitely think enforced birth control and some form of eugenics have to be considered. And I’m not that prissy. I used to eat dinner watching Faces of… Read more »

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You also going to have forced breeding for Harvard elitists who think their lives are too busy and exciting to clutter up with kids?

Lineman
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Lineman

Which goes to show you welfare is harmful to everyone it touches…

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Z you are conflating Artificial General Intelligence research (AGI) with the current state of the art in machine learning systems. The current state of the art IS good enough to wipe out millions of jobs with few replacement jobs on the horizon. The GIG economy is real as people look for anything to put food on the table. The difference is that “the anything” pays a fraction of what they used to make or expected to make after graduating with their overpriced college degree. The current GIG economy is an excellent example of a small # of tech oligarchs skimming… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

Outis, thank you. Nice insight on AI. Yeah, AI sucks—but it’s currently damn good enough to fuck over 20-40% of the work force in the next 20 years. 🙁

Samuel Adams
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Samuel Adams

A half dozen years ago was working on a project that required a lot of time in Silicon Valley. One of the senior guys at the software vendor was the former Sharepoint project manager in his MS days. We were discussing the lousy integration of acquisitions like Yammer to the Office platform. He explained that most of Office still runs on code base and architecture from the 90s and the attempts to integrate across Yammer or One Note end up creating software that is the code equivalent of the creatures on the Island of Dr. Moreau. And only getting worse.… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

I wonder how many software professionals read this blog. I’m seeing many on this post. I’m one.

Lineman
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Lineman

It sounds like a lot of office people read this blog so I would guess that quite a few deal in software…

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The pace of increasing computer speed has slowed dramatically in the last 20 years. Though I understand it is more complicated than this, from 1982 to 2000, computer clock speeds increased more than 250 times. From 4.77mhz to a gigahertz around the year 2000. Clock speeds got 250 times faster in the 18 years form 1982 to 2000 and have only increased about 5 times in last 18 years. They have partially offset this by using multiple cores. But all other things being equal, it is better to have 1 8ghz core than 4 2ghz cores. Processing has certainly gotten… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

I think discussing if AI will ‘be like human minds, w real intelligence’ is to get hung up on semantics. I have myself wondered if there is anything more to AI than many parallel optimization codes w good data feed and that does not exactly sound like minds in the making. But that’s not the point. Extremely powerful new technology is coming forward and it will change a lot. No one knows exactly how. I think Z underestimates here. I think AI will be something of a game changer, in civilian life and in war.

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For most of human history, things were relatively static. Millennia went by between world-changing inventions Domestication of animals, 12-15,000 B.C. Cultivation, ~9,500 B.C. Wheel, 4,500 B.C. Smelting, ~3,500 B.C. (actual development of smelting spread slowly over thousands of years, but this is the beginning of the “Bronze Age.” The Iron Age represents simply an incremental improvement in metallurgy.) Gutenburg Press, 1439. First practical steam engine, 1712. And right there, the last puzzle piece fell into place. Man finally had portable, reliable power that wasn’t limited by the biggest most muscular animals he could get to work together. Things started taking… Read more »

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This is a nice story, but not really accurate. There was water power and wind powered factories before the steam engine. There are and were giant textile factories all over England going way back before the 18th century. Machine shops, lumber, flour milling. wood shops. They were just using mechanical power and not electric power. The steam engine allowed things like railroads to appear. Once the steam engine was widespread, the factories could be built anywhere, but the way factories worked was more or less exactly the same with mechanical power transferred by belts or gears.

WalkingHorse
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WalkingHorse

As a developer and systems architect, I have lived through two waves of what I’ll call exuberant optimism about “AI”. We are in the throes of the third. In the two prior instances, “AI” was grossly oversold and the resultant letdown swept the snake oil salesmen off to other exploits, usually “failing up”. There have been a few notable successes in automation and “big data”, but they area all predicated upon having simplified the operating environment for the “AI” to the point that it may be more or less fully characterized. Constraining the environment leads to a tractable set of… Read more »

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The best existing candidates are warehouses and other constrained environments where power can be made available as a predictable part of the environment. Warehouse bots have been around for a long time. Back in the ’90s, the newspaper I worked at had robotic machines for transporting and loading the giant paper rolls for the presses. They received signals when the press needed paper, and could go and find the rolls where they were stored on the press floor, carry them over to the press and load them in. Obviously they were not humanoid. This type of job — any sort… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

Not sure robots or AI automation need be smarter than a human. It need only be a percentage as good as a human. For example, a sorting system that removes unwanted/bad parts. Whereas a line of a dozen human sorters now is replaced by a shorter line of say 6 sorters that look over the parts passed by the new AI system. Workforce reduction, 50%!

WalkingHorse
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WalkingHorse

I am aware of the warehouse robots you mention. I am thinking of the next step up in levels of competency – being able to deal with a few of the untidy things human ware-housemen do. [My first ‘real job’ after matriculation had robots in the late 1970′ s – one delivered mail to the various engineering offices and did mail/package pickup: “Gus”. Others were employed in the chip manufacturing front-ends.]

rkb100100
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AI are machine adaptive pattern recognition algorithms that have been around for years. The practical applications back in the day were simple manufacturing inspections, voice recognition and some pie in the sky ideas called artificial neural networks. The broad goal of this technology was never to rule the world but to improve upon a machines ability to refine current data with instances of new raw data for use in pattern detection tasks and simple predictive tasks. It offers great promise since computer processing power has become so cheap – medical applications and diagnostic improvements are particularly of interest. You are… Read more »

Pat Hines
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Pat Hines

In the late 1960s, I worked for a three letter agency collecting electronic intelligence. We had various really sophisticated pieces of hardware, about 80% of which actually worked as advertized. We had to manually force that level.

One of the really “cool” things was an automatic tracking piece of hardware which used signal strength (appropriate software wasn’t invented yet) to cause the antennae to track the target (a satellite).

It never worked.

Roger U
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What’s happened to Identity Dixie?

King Tut
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King Tut

Who says we’re not advancing? Look, we’ve got gay penguins now! What could be better? Pozzed wildlife, yes! Real progress.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-27405652

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Can’t help but post the best metal song ever on topic.

We’ve taken too much for granted
And all the time it had grown
From techno seeds we first planted
Evolved a mind of its own

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR7Ft1AyeRI

Sean Detente
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There’s a quite a few commercials for AI on Japanese broadcast television. Mostly ignore them because they’re in line with so much other sponsored crap – endless car commercials and spots trumpeting some icon of Japanese industry. Hitachi has their own AI product they’re hawking, and they’re also the main sponsor of a family show called Sazae-San (somewhat equivalent to early-mid ‘90s Simpson’s but with a heavy quaint dose of Leave it to Beaver). So, you get 20 minutes of watching a somewhat-traditional Japanese family show, then Hitachi pontificating about increasing efficiency in avocado distribution with their AI system (white… Read more »

Wonka
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Wonka

I dont know if someone already pointed it out (writing this with 218 comments already, lazy to search), but there’s already code production outsourcing to Africa: Egypt and Tunisia… For the automotive industry that I’m 100% sure of… maybe other type of code making already being done there… cheaper than India…

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AI is going to come from either military research or academic research. Corporate programming is for cheap Asian hacks. However, AI doesn’t have to be all that intelligent to change the world. It only needs to be as smart as Watson to run expert databases, and not nearly that smart to run manufacturing robots.

William Harford
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I have to confess, I am intrigued by the apparent paradox that those who, on the face of it, seem to be the cohort that promotes the concept of a ‘benevolent’ rule by an Artificial Intelligence deemed superior to any offered biologically also seem to be utterly opposed to any available metric of evaluating intelligence in mankind being used as an indicator of ability in general.

Frank
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Frank

sorry I am late to the discussion. Now that I have been retired for a month, I do not spend very much time online. I worked for a year trying to build an expert system using IBM Watson. Honestly, it was a very frustrating experience. We worked with something like 1 person at IBM who seemed to understand how it really worked. We achieved perhaps an 85% accuracy rate for the system to answer complex healthcare policy questions. Our helpers from IBM thought that was very good. For me, I figured it had to be something like 98% in order… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

I hope you keep commenting Frank.

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