Woke Justice

Usually, when people think of corruption, they imagine government officials taking bribes, selling access or self-dealing at the expense of the people. It is the politician doing favors for someone, who is secretly giving the politician money. It’s not that the act of taking cash for access, for example, is illegal. It is that this sort of self-dealing happens outside of public view. The constituents don’t know that their representative is taking bribes or cutting secret deals at their expense.

That’s why people take offense at this sort of corruption. It makes a mockery of the whole democratic process. The point of representative self-government is for the people to select representatives, who will speak for them. Those representatives then populate government with people, who have the duty to carry out government functions for the good of the people. If the representatives or bureaucrats are taking bribes and selling favors, it undermines the point of the democratic system.

This sort of corruption, regardless of scale, is petty corruption. The people doing it acknowledge the reason for the political order and they accept that their actions are in violation of that order. They know they are violating the trust placed in them by their fellow citizens. They are simply motivated by the same things that are always behind these sorts of personal failures. They either give in to temptation or they are of low character. Petty corruption is a part of the human condition.

There is another sort of corruption that is far worse. This is when the people in positions of authority no longer respect the spirit of the law. They see the law as nothing but an obstacle course, which they must navigate in order to get what they want. Whether it is the process or the limits, the law is just a puzzle they must defeat. This sort of corruption is a rejection of the spirit of the law and the process created to write and execute the laws. This is the corruption we see in the courts.

There can be no reading of court precedents that would lead this judge to rule that long guns are not protected by the Bill of Rights. The Supreme Court has made that clear and legal scholars agree about the intent of the Second Amendment. This women does not care about the law or the spirit of the law. She is a political fanatic, who sees the law and the political system as obstacles. She stands in opposition to the political order, yet she is allowed to serve as a judge, rotting the system from the inside.

Throughout the system, we see judges make rulings that fly in the face of black letter law and prior precedents. It’s become such a common occurrence, it is just assumed that every consequential case will end up in the Supreme Court, as no one respects the rulings of lower courts. The Ninth Circuit, for example, has been a punchline for decades, because that court is stocked with fanatics and imbeciles, unable to perform their basic duties. All of its rulings are assumed to be flawed.

This situation with the federal courts has become particularly acute after Trump won the 2016 election. No matter what the administration does, a federal judge somewhere rules it is unconstitutional. The reasoning is often so bizarre, it suggests they are intentionally mocking the spirit of the law. These judges are trying to discredit the basis of the system that allows them to be judges. The court no longer respects the spirit of the laws or the political system that creates them

Most Americans, using the old definition of the term, still see the courts as the backstop for democracy. While the courts often make mistakes or give in to the fads of the day, the courts are still seen as the safety valve. It’s why legacy Americans still talk about rights and the rule of law. Despite what they see on their televisions every day, they still think the people on the bench respect the spirit of the constitutional system. That is no longer the case, as the courts are thoroughly and irredeemably corrupt.

Of course, the problem with the courts did not happen overnight. The new elite that coalesced in the middle of the last century lacked an historical attachment to the Anglo-Saxon form of jurisprudence. Instead, they either explicitly rejected that as bourgeois, and therefore illegitimate. Or, they came from a different legal tradition in which judges made and interpreted the law. Either way, the new elite that formed after the war was at odds with the spirit of the American legal and political system.

This corruption became clear in cases like Griswold v. Connecticut and more famously in Roe v. Wade. In both cases, the courts manufactured new law, based in nothing but the whims of the court, but also corrupted the very basis of the legal system. Ever since, the courts have been the most important branch of government. The political class now fights for the power to stock the courts with people, who promise to pervert the law in favor of their side at the expense of the other.

We have reached the point now where the judges no longer feel that have any need to respect the spirit of the laws and the system that created them. Every case that goes to the Supreme Court has four votes for or against it, regardless of the issue. The four Progressive fanatics are so predictable, it is just assumed they will rule in favor of their tribe’s wishes. The only question is which “conservative” judge will be selected to fink on his team and side with the orientalists on the bench.

Now we see that the lower courts are in full revolt. U.S. District Judge Josephine Staton, the one who ruled that long guns are not protected by the Second Amendment, no longer cares about the law. She is fully woke, by which is meant fully politicized. She has no respect for the law or the process that form and uphold the law. She and her fellows on the bench are in full spiritual revolt against the system that makes it possible for her to be a federal judge. She is the face of spiritual corruption.

Petty corruption, like a judge taking a bribe, is no threat to the system. A crooked judge can be exposed and his punishment can serve as a reinforcement of the spirit behind the system. Every system needs a rule breaker once in a while to test the resolve and be an example to everyone. The corruption we see today is a sign that the system has broken down completely. Our elites no longer have any respect for the spirit of the law or the intellectual traditions that are supposedly its foundation.


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Whitney
Member
5 years ago

It explains why James Fields got a life sentence. Whatever you may think about the whole Charlottesville thing that guy is a political prisoner

Exile
Exile
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Reply to  Whitney
5 years ago

I would have acquitted Fields on the evidence, not merely out of solidarity. In pre-Woke America, a jury of normies would have at worst found him guilty of vehicular manslaughter* and he’d be out in a few years. The fully-politicized Homeland, FBI etc… are going to turn White Nationalists into Bobby Sands’ IRA in short order. We need to be ready for that crackdown, keep our heads and don’t make the mistakes the IRA made with vanguardist BS that set them back in public opinion. Greg Johnson’s pieces on mass shootings at Counter-Currents, including this week’s latest, should be required… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Exile
5 years ago

See 99 Blues posting above for a quick lesson in how to lose public opinion. 🙁

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Compsci
5 years ago

He’s not advocating violence or other wig-nattery, he’s noticing. We’re not going to reach the 25% level of true dissident leverage by pearl-clutching inside the Overtonberg Window where Con, Inc. has been trapped for decades. NAJALT, and all that, but the idea that mentioning the JQ is verboten b/c upset normies is what guys like Yarzony are there to reinforce.

Felix_Krull
Member
Reply to  Exile
5 years ago

Greg Johnson’s pieces on mass shootings at Counter-Currents, including this week’s latest, should be required reading for anyone flying our flag.

Yes. Here’s another excellent quote:

In 2015 and 2016, we won enormous victories by attacking the enemy’s weakest points from a position of strength. In 2017 we suffered enormous defeats because we thought we could attack our enemy’s strongest points from a position of weakness.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Felix_Krull
5 years ago

@Felix
Isn’t that the truth right there…

Wkathman
Wkathman
5 years ago

If elected officials and judges do not respect the law, why should any of the rest of us?

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
Reply to  Wkathman
5 years ago

We game it against them.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Wkathman
5 years ago

This is the kind of comment you see at Brietbart and Instapundit a LOT. “Ooh they won’t like it when we stop obeying…”

But this has been said for 40 years as everything gets more and more Pozzed. NOTHING HAPPENS. It will take a major shock to the system and a lot of people losing their comfort before we actually stop obeying, if we do at all. The Brave New World is *really* good at hitting the dopamine.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  thezman
5 years ago

There is an order problem. Another Freddy Gray or Rodney King riot that spreads nationally with police withdrawing and forays into the suburbs tends to concentrate minds.

Normies hate riots. Hate even more having their homes looted. Elites ride the tiger. The Purge movies are the template for the non White lumpen proletariat.

Into such a political void steps a Caesar.

Member
Reply to  Whiskey
5 years ago

That is precisely why they will not let this happen. BLM was getting out of control in this way and then suddenly, BLM just “went away” Someone interfered and pulled back funding and organizational support for BLM. BLM went from a major force in the country to nothing in a matter of a month of two. I’m sorry, but it did not just happen. Someone made it happen.

This is why I say ‘never attribute to incompetence what can be attributed to malice.’

Roger
Roger
Member
Reply to  Tars_Tarkusz
5 years ago

Inclined to agree. The story of Shaun King’s embezzlement of the BLM funds quietly went away, too.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Whiskey
5 years ago

Nothing much will happen till the Boomer die off and/or economic collapse . We’ll just get a slow slide into 3rd world irrelevance with possible collapse and ACW2 scenarios There is almost certainly not going to be a Caesar along the way . Anyone with such ambition and ability is either corrupted or otherwise dealt out of the picture. There are very men few like that and a big intelligence service to watch them. There might be a quiet one somewhere but its a slight possibility. In any case the rebel class is mostly Libertarian which is the slightly saner… Read more »

cloudswrest
cloudswrest
Reply to  Whiskey
5 years ago

Back during the Rodney King riots the rioters did not enter Beverly Hills. Later a media person asked the mayor why he thought the riots did not spread to his town. His response was, “We don’t allow that here.”

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  thezman
5 years ago

And the other 10% is still 20 million people. This is why I still have hope.

Max
Member
Reply to  thezman
5 years ago

Maybe not happily, but grudgingly. It’s amazing how prophetic some sci-fi is. The West might as well be the Eloi.

Edit: read where the upscale real estate market is booming in Warsaw. I wonder how much of that is driven by foreigners looking some type of insurance policy.

Felix_Krull
Member
Reply to  Max
5 years ago

The West might as well be the Eloi.

Except we work to feed the Morlocks, rather than the other way around.

cloudswrest
cloudswrest
Reply to  Felix_Krull
5 years ago

Well the Eloi *fed* the Morlocks too. LOL

Swrichmond
Swrichmond
Reply to  Max
5 years ago

Living between Germany and Russia can never be considered an insurance policy.

Exile
Exile
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Reply to  thezman
5 years ago

25% is the social tipping point for minority views. If we can flip or Finlandize 15%, we’ll have sufficient allies/adjacents to run effective inside-the-Empire interference for Our Thing as we separate.

Anotheranon
Anotheranon
Reply to  Exile
5 years ago

Nassim Taleb says it can be much lower, depending on the culture … https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15

Saml Adams
Saml Adams
Reply to  thezman
5 years ago

A while back, re-read “Eichmann in Jerusalem” for the first time since college. Forgot how striking the recounts of how the local Judenrat’s—really that community’s “elite”—worked with Nazis on their own eventual extermination. So, my bet is on the same happening here.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Saml Adams
5 years ago

Thanks…..just ordered it. The question of “how” has haunted me since childhood. I know now.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  thezman
5 years ago

Of the 90%, when you just mention the principle of white nationalism, either their heads rotate side to side like a dog’s, or their face tenses up like you have committed a hate crime in front of them. So yeah, most American whites are totally oblivious. For those white eth-nats out there, best to form your own wandering tribe and hope for the best, much like that other wandering tribe.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  thezman
5 years ago

thezman said: ” My estimate is 90% of whites will happily happily embrace their own extinction. If you are counting on the people to save themselves, you will be disappointed.” America has always been about ethnic tribalism and regionalism. throw in some Democratic rugged individualism and there’s the good old U. S. of A. Now we’re living in the ass end of that prodject. One of the main components of decadence that Friedrich Nietzsche talked about was the loss of the will for self-defense. obviously, demoralization isn’t anything new. What’s new is a massive, generational project to gut the moral,… Read more »

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Official Bologna Tester
5 years ago

Somewhere in my travels – I read that one of the reasons why the Germans overran France so easily in 1940 , was because so many of the French were so deeply dissatisfied with the 3rd Republic – that the welcomed the German invasion. No “nation” can sufficiently defend itself – when a critical portion of it’s populace wants to see it die. That’s why I think the critical effort here is to make sure that a critical portion of the white population comes to realize that the current order of things is solidly set against them. Get a critical… Read more »

Rube Goldberg
Rube Goldberg
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Reply to  Calsdad
5 years ago

If the new squad attacking the old white guard on the left doesn’t wake up the progs and neo/ Buckley cons, what will?

joe
joe
Reply to  Rube Goldberg
5 years ago

@Rube Goldberg – This. It’s a much different thing when your own ox is gored – the (D)irtbag/ (D)umbcluck coalition may seem like mental defectives, but it is seldom in a ‘fail to benefit their own interests ‘ way – it’s more like a ‘burn down the house while trying to loot it’ mental/ MORAL defect.

Johnny55
Johnny55
Reply to  thezman
5 years ago

Perhaps, but that is true of any people. It was the lament of the Gulag Archipelago. But I wouldn’t say happily or double happy. Fighting back is hard. Just the nature of man I suppose.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  thezman
5 years ago

My estimate is 90% of whites will happily happily embrace their own extinction. This is super-black pill to me but I’m thinking the same. Right now I’m having this vague sense that old or very long cycle patterns are slowly coming into focus and we are seeing why liberty and a ‘free society’ is bound to do one of two, be swept away. Or embrace authoritarianism. I think this is basically what happened to Rome. And I think it is b/c a ‘democracy’ is bound to be run by unconscientious grifters, liars and bullshitters. Democracy is a wonderful idea. There… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 years ago

Democracy is not a wonderful idea—at least not wrt how it now entails universal suffrage.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
5 years ago

I don’t know if 90% of whites would happily embrace their own extinction, but I do suspect that 90% of whites will never lift a finger or even publicly support us until we’ve already created a protected community of our own. If in the disintegrating society that is to come, 5% or 10% of whites create their own community and withstand the initial media outrage and legal fight, a large number of other whites will rapidly come to our side. Of course, by that point, we wouldn’t need them, and, in many ways, wouldn’t want them. Regardless, whites love living… Read more »

Rube Goldberg
Rube Goldberg
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Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
5 years ago

And thus it is, the world over with all it’s races.
Your point?

Roger
Roger
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Reply to  thezman
5 years ago

New-ish fan of your work here.
It occurs to me that those 10% of us remaining will have nowhere to live, what with the migrating foreigner hordes and the cucked whites who currently are lobbying for their own replacement.
The numbers don’t favor us, imo.

george
george
Reply to  BadThinker
5 years ago

I go back and forth on this. On one hand you are absolutely correct. Nothing has ever happened. One outrage after another and no reaction. On the other hand it could be that white people still believe they have something to lose. That the system can still mostly work. By about 2025 when the medicare math just is not going to work anymore and a lot of the economy goes down with it then people will pretty quickly have their standards of living adjusted downward. At that point when literally nothing is left to lose then maybe we get to… Read more »

Swrichmond
Swrichmond
Reply to  george
5 years ago

I believe your point is correct. We are far too comfortable.

Monty James
Reply to  Wkathman
5 years ago

The officials and judges can pretty much count on the right staying on the couch, and believing traditional order is still in effect, and the left owning the streets and imposing their own order when and how they please. The heritage population of the country is well conditioned at this point. I’d prefer to be wrong about this.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Monty James
5 years ago

I share your lack of faith in our people as things stand. But I have an enormous amount of faith in the ability of our enemies to so ‘screw the pooch’ that they awaken enough of us into pushing back hard. Trump ‘woke’ our enemies, Kamala Jemima will return the favor once elected.

Ursula
Ursula
Reply to  Yves Vannes
5 years ago

Unfortunately, I can’t imagine any pushback from conservatives/dissidents being organized, intelligent or effective. We have only a few intelligent voices, like Z Man, voices lost in the wilderness, for all intents and purposes, seeking reasonable minds to sway. If the pushback comes in the form of young white men shooting a bunch of innocent strangers, very soon the government will activate laws they have on the books about domestic terrorists that are just waiting to be activated, and life will get that much harder for all dissidents, on the left or the right. Then we’ll watch as the law is… Read more »

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Wkathman
5 years ago

That’s just it. We don’t.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Wkathman
5 years ago

Exactly. A “rule of law” society is dependent on legitimacy more than any other system of government, and when everyone in bust-out America is lawyering around the rules or simply ignoring them, he who respects the spirit of the laws is a “freier,” as Israelis say.

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  Wkathman
5 years ago

Because they have the power to incarcerate you and thus ruin your life; not the other way way around.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  King Tut
5 years ago

This depends on how much lawbreaking . California is awash in laws and is actually quite lawless, Anarcho Tyranny really sucks but it is the way of the future.

Upside the USG and the States who are often a bigger more immediate threat, will sooner or later run out of money and thus the ability to enforce laws

We see this erosion with sanctuary cities, gun sanctuaries, weed legalization and I expect to see more of this impromptu Federalism for good or ill.

Nathan
Nathan
Reply to  Wkathman
5 years ago

“Our government is the potent, omnipresent teacher. For good or ill it teaches the whole people by its example”- (((Louis Brandeis))) The goober mint is always telling us it’s wrong to use violence to get what you want yet the Anglo-Zionist Empire has a gigantic military that has slaughtered millions for dubious reasons. We have a TV and movie industry that churns out the most bloodsoaked entertainment since the Coliseum. Very often these movies portray torture and murder as righteous acts. I mean it’s okay if they’re “Nazis” right? Who was the last politician to call out Hollywood in any… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Wkathman
5 years ago

Does anybody who reads this blog actually respect the law? I haven’t since I was unjustly convicted of breaking an unconstitutional law at the age of 16 (I hadn’t done what I was accused of, but what I was accused of was protected by the first amendment even if I had done it.) on only the word of the guy *I* had called the cops on!

That day it was seared into my soul that government was arbitrary and untrustworthy and did not serve justice. I obey only out of fear of the consequences, not out of respect.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Vizzini
5 years ago

Yeah, ‘obey’ and ‘respect’ are two very different things….

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Vizzini
5 years ago

Vizzini…meet Apex Predator.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Range Front Fault
5 years ago

You’ll have to clarify. I seem to recall a commenter by that name, but don’t know enough about him to get the reference.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
5 years ago

The Coalition of the Fringes correctly view laws – particularly, the Constitution – written by old white men as not applicable to them. These laws were written by and for gentile NW Europeans.

The Coalition doesn’t respect those laws because they shouldn’t. It’s not their people who wrote them. I would – and, as the country’s rulers change, will – feel the same way. I will view laws written by Pres. Harris and House Speaker AOC and ruled constitutional by the Wise Latina as illegitimate obstacles deserving of no respect.

Thus is how empires fall.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
5 years ago

Why use a term invented by a small tribe to describe their enemies in a negative light when talking about northwestern European peoples? We don’t describe our people as Gweilo or Firangi – Gentile should be consigned to the dustbin too.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  BadThinker
5 years ago

Good point. But for the time being, it’s useful for newbies to understand who is really European and who is not.

But, yes, it is tiresome and angering. Bit like the term “Non-Hispanic White.”

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Reply to  BadThinker
5 years ago

I use the term “gentile” along with “White” in order to differentiate from Jews. Many Europeans are people of European descent are not Christian.

99 Year Blues
5 years ago

Z’s conceptual analysis here is largely correct, but his labeling and vocabulary are insufficient. “Corrupt” is the correct term to use for the first phase of his analysis, viz. an official taking bribes to do special favors, thereby “corrupting” the purpose of the office. But that is not the correct term for what we see in the courts. The courts and judges are not “corrupt,” they have been Judaized, in the exact same way that the universities, the press, the cinema, radio and television, the Internet tech hubs, the financial system, and the permanent bureaucracy have all been Judaized. Not… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Reply to  99 Year Blues
5 years ago

Jewish individuals and groups succeeded in reshaping their host societies to reflect their values, serve their interests and gratify their 2000-year-old spite against Christianity and even more ancient spite against the goyim in general. Gentiles now hold views that were originally self-serving Jewish ones. I find it pathetic how evangelical Christians in particular fawn on the Jews and Israel. Brings to mind what someone said about the Western-Soviet relationship: “They spit in our face and we call it dew.” It’s not an original observation that groups that are liberal in the US aren’t liberal in their homelands. It’s been pointed… Read more »

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaehdiel
5 years ago

“Many members of the Coalition of the Fringes are critical of Israel…”

Once the hammer comes down, these people will be among the first to be liquidated.

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Reply to  Epaminondas
5 years ago

Jews are caught between the proverbial rock and a hard place.

Jews may or may not regard themselves as White, and the lefties don’t seem to, but non-Whites do. Uber Whites, if anything. On the other hand, there is a growing recognization among White gentiles that the Jews are a hostile elite and have been in the forefront of political radicalism and cultural subversion dating back to the 19th Century. What happens next and which way they swing is anyone’s guess.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaehdiel
5 years ago

I was referring to the leftist hammer. They will police their own ruthlessly.

One of many Georges
One of many Georges
Reply to  99 Year Blues
5 years ago

For people who don’t do the Twitter, the reactions of “conservative” Matt Walsh were absolutely amazing. After the El Paso shooter was hastily identified as “white nationalist,” he was just itching to unleash his Judaized response, something literally like “hang all the white nationalists from lampposts, now!”

But when it emerged that the other killer was Antifa, he tweeted something like “woah, guys, let’s all calm down here, and not go to extremes.”

Guys like this are like Jewish-trained poodles, but with paychecks instead of doggie treats when they do the tricks right. They make me sick.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  99 Year Blues
5 years ago

I had the same thought, that ‘corruption’ was not quite the right word for ideological infiltration or fanaticism or what you wanna call it. But i didnt want to split hairs over semantics so ignored that until I saw your comment.

Chris_Lutz
Member
5 years ago

It’s like the Sandman v. WaPo case where the judge threw out the case with prejudice declaring the news article was simply opinion. The cherry on top has to be Roberts ruling the Obamacare fine a tax.

When I lived in a midsized Midwest city, I once wrote the city council members with a question. The only one who replied was the old, union guy on council. They later got him removed for the petty bribes you described. I always had a soft spot for him because, while corrupt, he at least did his job.

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Chris_Lutz
5 years ago

Sandman should refile: in the UK.

The libel laws are much stricter and the WAPO undoubtedly published their lies there.

The downside is that damages are a lot less generous.

AnotherAnonymous
AnotherAnonymous
Reply to  Chris_Lutz
5 years ago

I used to view the handful of landmark “creative” SC decisions as justice(s) trying to protect the SC from intense public backlash. Like bending a sapling to prevent its breaking … when the SC seemed to lag “too far” behind the leftward cultural drift. But maybe it is corruption more than a defensive posture. Imagine where we’d be without the last two of these decisions? Make that 3. or 4. Each one of them introduces major cultural watershed not easily reversed.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
5 years ago

Consider the 4th Amendment on one hand and Civil Forfeiture on the other. How was that even possible? And like any corrupt banana republic, local police and law enforcement seem more than happy to use it against law abiding citizens any time they can.

“To get back the seized property, owners must prove it was not involved in criminal activity.” Seems your legal system chose to ignore Coffin v. United States as well.

That’s a great system you have there.So much for your civil rights and protection under the law.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
5 years ago

(((Government lawyers))) evade the Bill of Rights re: forfeiture by suing the property, not the person. That’s why those cases are titled things like “U.S. v. $100,000” or “California v. 2019 BMW.” It’s utter BS and one legitimate example of how the “war on drugs” got hijacked for corrupt ends. A just President would end the practice.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Exile
5 years ago

“Conservatives” largely signed onto that practice.

Many police departments now openly declare that they depend upon that seized revenue to continue to operate.

You’re gonna have to do a whole hell of a lot more black-pilling to build enough societal momentum to get it to end. Just relying on some magical President to come is not going to EVER do it.

The civil liberatarians and the liberty movement have been covering the dynamic where the police departments are militarizing – for at least a decade now.

If you’re just becoming aware of this – you’re seriously behind the curve.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Calsdad
5 years ago

I’m openly 5PT preaching that voting won’t save us and I’ve been noticing this stuff since “suing the res” started. As soon as the “liberty movement” gets JQ-woke, get back to me about being behind the curve. As for “civil libertarians,” what Z said x2.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Exile
5 years ago


I get the feeling Calsdad has it out for you in this post for some reason… Maybe he would be so kind as to share why the animosity towards fellow travelers…Also noticed the trolls sure come out when there is any sort of unity being talked about… Anyone else notice that…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Lineman
5 years ago

@Lineman, Some sergeants try to lambast and kick you into doing your duty. Others lead you. I’d experienced both before I became a noncom myself. I was assigned to a Sergeant First Class that was a borderline sociopath, narcissist, who spewed nothing but bile upon us all day. It worked to get some of us moving but only as far as we were in his view. I eventually rebelled and had just enough dirt on him so that no official action could be taken so he “demoted me” from the HQ unit “down to a rifle squad.” I was ecstatic… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Exile
5 years ago

Forfeiture law is also a good example of a predictable corruption that the public was too stupid to understand or foresee, but was widely publicized as the logical end result at the time. Ditto, Patriot Act.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
5 years ago

Even worse, many so called “red states” where the people cry “Freedum!” have the worst laws on this. It’s actually pretty hard to do on the west coast. It’s how shit kicking cops get new police cruisers. I actually judge states on this particular metric, along with the legality of DUI checkpoints. Imagine Thomas Jefferson going through a DUI checkpoint with Benjamin Franklin in the passenger seat. My county loves DUI checkpoints, like putting a TSA checkpoint on a freeway exit. Collective inconvenience, collective punishment by wasting time. Cops making overtime standing like clowns. And if you’re going to do… Read more »

UpYours
UpYours
Reply to  JR Wirth
5 years ago

Shithole suburban dwelling “law-abiding” cuck.

But..but..cops are heroes, they keep us safe and are there to protect us.
Ya don’t know.

Exile
Exile
Member
5 years ago

Those of us who work in the kritarchy have known for years that many judges start with the result and use precedent, at best, to rationalize their desired result. Like the military, the higher you advance, the more likely you are corrupt in the ideological fashion Z’s speaking of. We go through the motions of doing hours of research and writing elaborate case law arguments, but we know that petitioning the court is more like begging and flattering King Louis than Plato debating Aristotle. On mundane matters, issues are decided on the judge’s whim, and on anything with cultural or… Read more »

David_Wright
Member
5 years ago

How much of this permeates the whole citizenry? It seems everybody is black pilled on justice in this country. Most may not be corrupt but totally don’t care or want to play boy scout anymore. That is all on our elites displayed fully by the court appointed deviants. My call to jury duty appearance last year gave me a good example of where we are. Most don’t even respond to the summons and those that do wail and connive to get out of it, and I am talking about a bunch of one day trials. Until Trump and even governors… Read more »

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  David_Wright
5 years ago

Some governors tried to defy the Feds in the 50s and 60s. That failed. I don’t see today’s pozzed state governments (even in the Deep South) doing *anything* like what George Wallace tried to do.

Dr. Mabuse
Dr. Mabuse
Reply to  David_Wright
5 years ago

Maybe jury duty is a good place to start. Any rightist who is summoned for jury duty should make it a point to respond, and do everything necessary to get on a jury. Including lying when the attorneys are trying to suss out your intentions. Say whatever necessary to get on, then band together to acquit an accused on “our team”, or convict the defendant if he is on theirs. This is how we have to play the game now, and it’s necessary to practice it, like learning a new skill.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Dr. Mabuse
5 years ago

Are you kidding! Pretty much the only people that show up for jury duty are white people. My city has to send out hundreds of extras summons because the black people just don’t show up. Apparently with no repercussions. Those are just for Whitey also. I get called every year. And I always get out of it because I’m self-employed and I have no employees. If I don’t work I don’t eat. But I have no intention of serving because I don’t feel good about doing my civic duty anymore. It’s right up there with recycling which I feel morally… Read more »

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  Whitney
5 years ago

It’s not civic duty. Its duty to the white race. Ignore the laws, punish our enemies and do what is right for white people. Yes, it will require sacrifice but it’s the sacrifice of one days labor.

Dr. Mabuse
Dr. Mabuse
Reply to  Tykebomb
5 years ago

That’s the way I see it. It’s not civic duty anymore; it’s an opportunity for guerilla warfare. And the enemy is inviting you in. Of course you don’t tell them what you’re there for; they’ll find out when it’s too late. And even if you can’t get an entire jury of like-minded people, you can at least gum their game. One person on a jury can spoil an acquittal or a conviction to benefit our side and injure theirs.

David_Wright
Member
Reply to  Whitney
5 years ago

Same here in my area. They even had a questionaire with 3 questions. White or Black was one. Can’t get negroes to show up.
I counted (this is a major black city) , out of 80 seven were black. Should have been the opposite.
The self employed provision used to work not anymore. An asian doctor who I befriended for the day closed down his clinic.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  David_Wright
5 years ago

Your going to be dinner one day you know that right?

David_Wright
Member
Reply to  Lineman
5 years ago

I live in the same county as these people not the same city. Millions of whites here. Thanks for the heads up wasn’t aware how bad things are.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  David_Wright
5 years ago

Well Brother if you’re still within walking distance I would be looking for somewhere else🤔

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Dr. Mabuse
5 years ago

Jury nullification (ignoring the instructions/law & voting your conscience) is an American tradition since the Colonies, but many states in Second Founding America consider it contempt of court if you openly declare it. So just do what the OJ jury did, with not a peep from starf*cker Judge Ito – as the Dr. orders above.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Dr. Mabuse
5 years ago

LOL.

Go to jury duty.

Utter the words “jury nullification”.

Set your stopwatch on how long it takes to be eliminated from said jury pool.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Calsdad
5 years ago

That’s why you do it the OJ way.

Dr. Mabuse
Dr. Mabuse
Reply to  Calsdad
5 years ago

So you keep your mouth shut about what you intend to do. We’re soldiers now, not Boy Scouts.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Dr. Mabuse
5 years ago

You need the rest of the jury to pull that stunt.

As soon as you mention it – it’s pretty good odds somebody else on the jury will rat you out.

More education needs to be done behind the scenes to do handle things the way that you are advocating for. Many more black pills need to be forced down people’s throats.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Calsdad
5 years ago

Even to the fellow jurors, you don’t have to use the term, you just make a convincing case to them that it would be wrong to convict. Most won’t even realize you’re telling them to engage in jury nullification.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Vizzini
5 years ago

Or you just hang the jury if you have to, because you have “reasonable doubt”. “Deepfake videos are common now!” etc.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Dr. Mabuse
5 years ago

Dr. Mabuse said, “So you keep your mouth shut about what you intend to do. We’re soldiers now, not Boy Scouts.”

Almost there. Soldiers wear uniforms and stand openly in battle. Partisans is closer. Outnumbered, outgunned and outlawed. Be the clever and concealed partisan.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Calsdad
5 years ago

if you can’t keep your mouth shut and stop posturing, you won’t last long as a guerilla. No one cares what Chief Justice John Jay thought and if they did, we wouldn’t be in the mess. Shut up and serve and if you don’t think whoever it is belongs in jail, vote not guilty and stick to your guns , The reason doesn’t matter and no one needs know. Honestly a lot of people who hate the system need to read up on guerilla warfare and tactics. We’ve got far too many people out there who seem to think it’s… Read more »

UFO
UFO
Reply to  A.B Prosper
5 years ago

any books/links you can suggest?

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  UFO
5 years ago

It’s a huge topic and I’m far from an expert but American Partisan wouldn’t be a bad place to start

https://www.americanpartisan.org/

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Dr. Mabuse
5 years ago

Been there, done that. Unless you get on a Federal jury, your ability to cast a “protest” verdict is pretty limited. Even on the grand jury (I was on one for 5 months), the bad guys are pretty obviously trouble for the community. The cases are not usually political in nature. Every one I was on was of the nature, “Hey, this guy is an asshole that I really don’t want living in my neighborhood-good riddance.”

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Compsci
5 years ago

There is still value in locking assholes up. Either way you’ve done your part and it’s perfectly possible to work within the semi functional parts of the system while working to create something else

Be a Grey Man.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Dr. Mabuse
5 years ago

Dr. Mabuse: That was fully my intent when summoned for jury duty about a year ago. But somehow, even though the room was perhaps 65% White men, the “completely random computer generated” first cut managed to include about 60% women – two of them hijabbed – a few Negroes and subcons and Mestizos to round out the perfect multicultural pool from which the jury would be chosen. The game is rigged at every level – it would be a true rarity for a d-rightist to get on a jury.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  David_Wright
5 years ago

This country is simply too big. Nobody believes they will get a fair hearing with all this land and all these different people.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Marko
5 years ago

Jury of your peers had a very specific meaning once. No commoner would get to serve on that jury…

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  David_Wright
5 years ago

Trump can’t pull a Jackson when most of Congress is looking for a pretext to impeach and remove him from office. Seems Trump knows this, but few others here do, emotions being what they are.

Dr. Mabuse
Dr. Mabuse
Reply to  Compsci
5 years ago

Trump should have wised up to that danger in the first few months and moved to neutralize it by taking hostages. Every member of Congress should have been informed of the very unpleasant legal consequences awaiting their parents, children, cousins, in-laws etc. if they tried any funny business. Instead he wrings his hands on Twitter and lets the years drip away with nothing to show for them.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Dr. Mabuse
5 years ago

To the extent Trump was ever legit, his generation was too steeped in Second Founding American Civ Nat loyalty to go full realpolitik – which I agree was absolutely necessary to give us any shot to rush the DC cockpit. I think the window for using the Presidency or other national offices for anything but strategic monkey-wrenching passed with Trump. We needed a much younger, harder man for the job, but (((they))) have done a good job making sure that anyone so inclined already had their own “hostage” problems to hamstring them. That’s what Epstein et al are there for.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Compsci
5 years ago

He’s a 72 year old hotelier and entertainer, not a warchief or a ceasar

He wasn’t there to set things right away, he’s there for personal aggrandizement and to leave a county in which the kind of enterprise his family does can function for another generation or maybe two if he’s lucky.

The fact that this benefits us some is incidental .

Dr. Mabuse
Dr. Mabuse
Reply to  A.B Prosper
5 years ago

Yeah, I know. I’m not suggesting things that, given the shoddy materials on hand, have any chance of happening. That’s why I just shrug when his devotees keep going on about everything he’s “accomplished” so far. It’s not much, but it makes them feel like they’re part of something with a future.

The Last Stand
The Last Stand
5 years ago

The problem is that too many white people elevate the sanctity of the process over the results. It probably has to do with our naturally high trust societies. In any case, that leaves us open to subversion.

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
5 years ago

The case that you cited is a very good example indeed, because if anything is protected under the Second Amendment as written, it’s military-style rifles. This is one of the reasons that the Left used to always target handguns – a (fallacious) argument could be made that they were not ordinary militia weapons, and thus not covered by the Second Amendment (the old name of the Brady Campaign was “Handgun Control, Inc.). But of course, the Left soon found that targeting handguns reeled in too many of their favorite minorities, so this was dropped. It’s been years, Hell, decades, since… Read more »

The Last Stand
The Last Stand
Reply to  Altitude Zero
5 years ago

The point is to disarm law-abiding white people and expose us to the full effects of anarcho-tyranny. They are not going to take guns from Juan and Deshawn.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Last Stand
5 years ago

Out at the range yesterday, as we were enjoying ourselves all on our own, up drove a car load or two of mixed Whites, Mestizos, and a Negro couple. The four of us had them severely outgunned, but it still soured my stomach to see any of them practice with firearms (even if it was clear none of them were particularly skilled).

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  3g4me
5 years ago

That’s why I just shoot at my place anymore and if you lived closer you could come over as well😉

Corn
Corn
Reply to  The Last Stand
5 years ago

Right. Have you noticed lately that some of the young, woke Left are making noises about “prison abolition”?

So turn ALL the bad guys loose and take our guns.

Thanks guys.

Norskeguy
Norskeguy
5 years ago

This brings to mind Mark Steyn’s court battle with Michael Mann. How can a case which would have been thrown out by any county court judge from a 5th-tier law school go on for 8 freaking years? Who’s at the top telling the judges to “just sit on it”?

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Norskeguy
5 years ago

The length of that case is clearly politicized and tactical. A normal case would have been resolved in half the time even given the procedural gamesmanship. National Review contributed to the mess, which is why Mark wisely went with his own legal team.

Member
5 years ago

It’s almost guaranteed that more than half of GOP-nominated judges turn out to be ravening progressive wolves in sheep’s clothing. Yet we never see that with Communist-nominated judges. Hence that’s why I’m a big believer in “Red Team jurists.” Just like the progressive judges, they’re guaranteed to come down on the side of the right every time, regardless of the facts. Just like the Blue Team judges, who are as predictable as the sun rising and setting every day. The rule of law is meaningless when one side decides they refuse to play by the rules and dictate the rules… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
5 years ago

They will never let you leave peacefully.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  DLS
5 years ago

DLS, agreed. But on the other hand, how many posters here have ever said that they were working for a peaceful separation. That seems to be a delusion “not in evidence” as they would say.

One always hopes for the “best”, but wisely prepares for the worse. As for the worse wrt preparation—Lineman, seems the best resource—but I’ll let him speak for himself in this matter.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Compsci
5 years ago

Ahh Compsci the problem is most times I feel like my most of what I say falls on deaf ears anyways…Your right on the separation thing though, most talk about it but their lack of real action shows that they aren’t really serious or they are still to comfortable where they are at…Most look at this war we are in as something you can do or prepare for as a hobby not the life and death event that it is…It’s the Normalcy Bias thing working in overdrive for most folks…

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  DLS
5 years ago

Speaking for most of us who endorse the 5PT approach, we’re not looking for declared secession. We’re simply going to start living in close proximity and building normal White communities in places the Empire doesn’t prioritize – backwaters, cold weather, low population, not their beloved coasts and metro areas. Then we’ll boil the separation frog slowly through lax enforcement and passive non-compliance rather than strident civil disobedience. Keep sending them taxes and keep our heads down, all the while growing our population and educating them our way. Meanwhile the Empire will have its hands full keeping their orcs in line.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Exile
5 years ago

That’s a recipe for failure.

“Taking over” non-strategic areas means that you will never win this war because when it finally comes down to a fight – and it will – the Orcs will have the numbers – and the militarily strategic position to enforce their will.

It’s stuff like this that makes me think the right and the white nationalists are irredeemably retarded.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Calsdad
5 years ago

Well Calsdad I think there is a lot unsaid in Exiles post that if you were talking f2f might be able to be sussed out amongst yourselves…There is a lot of things that can’t be said online in front of your enemies but if you have a solution that will solve our problems without us being in physical proximity of one another I’m all ears?

dad29
Reply to  Lineman
5 years ago

Yup

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Calsdad
5 years ago

Exile, Carlsdad, You both have reasonable arguments. Exile is right that, at least in the early stages of building a dissident counterculture, it’s easier to avoid the supposedly all-seeing eye of the State in locations that the Overlords don’t take seriously and where they might have fewer “spies.” But this isn’t a struggle that can only be won by a maquis operating in the hindquarters of the backwoods. Sooner or later, you have to subvert the Powers where they live and move and have their being. That’s where they are strongest, but most vulnerable: in later stages their might can… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Exile
5 years ago

Well there is that county in Colorado I think that has declared itself a “2nd Amendment Sanctuary Zone”. It’s a cheeky way to slap at the Left with all their “Sanctuary Cities” and states that openly defy the Federal marijuana laws. It was Obama who decided *not* to send in the National Guard when the first states declared weed legal. When certain Southern states tried to stay segregated in the Civil Rights era the Guard *was* called in. That was probably too long ago though to infer much. Tellingly, Trump has followed Obama’s lead and hasn’t done much to rout… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  pozymandias
5 years ago

@Poz
Millions of people live literally next door to those they would prefer not to be around politically, socially or occupationally. So that aspect of things favors the violent side of the violent/peaceful prediction.
Yea about that why do people do that to themselves when there are so many places out there that have those things that align with their values…

Rogeru
Rogeru
Reply to  Lineman
5 years ago

@lineman
“Yea about that why do people do that to themselves when there are so many places out there that have those things that align with their values”

I can’t speak for everywhere, but here it seems like occupation; to force us in line. Its like progressive evangelism.

Member
Reply to  Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
5 years ago

The cuck will always vote with us until the vote actually counts. They LOVE being the powerless opposition. They will cluck and crow about their precious principles right up until the day when they get the chance to break a tie. That is precisely the time they cuck. Think of John McCain’s downvote on the repeal of Obamacare/ACA.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
5 years ago

I’m seething w anger as I read this. I’m in Europe, and I’m telling all of you stateside right now that the 2nd amendment is important. Contrary to what some of you may believe, it is not superdifficult to get a firearm in Europe, in particular a hunting weapon which is of course a long gun. It takes some footwork, a hunting class, an exam you have to pass, a process that takes a few months in places like Sweden or Germany. A handgun takes significantly more paperwork and time but even that can be done. The real issue is… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 years ago

It’s too bad it has to be like that where it takes a loss of something to see that we didn’t protect it, love it, defend it enough when we had it…Kind of like a majority white country…

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Lineman
5 years ago

Kind of like a majority white country…

The stuff we’re throwing away…. The West is trying to shit-test Darwinism itself. This won’t end well.

Gun Grabber
Gun Grabber
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 years ago

Why are you in Europe maran? Shocking news to hear.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Gun Grabber
5 years ago

Job, I chose a rather unusual way to use my degree so you basically go where the job is. But I was also born here. I grew up in the US. Id rather not fill in every detail b/c in my line of work, you dont wanna be doxed. After all, to the ordinary (dumbass) European, this would qualify as a ‘narhzee’ site. And I think this blog, incl. its commentator threads, gets more attention than some realize.

Gun Grabber
Gun Grabber
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 years ago

I remember stuff about you is why I ask. I understand. Like, what sort of attention do you think?

Soverytired1
Soverytired1
5 years ago

Obergefell V. Hodges. W/O commenting on the merits, how on earth did five judges get to invent a right out of thin air and overturn dozens, of not hundreds, of locally nuanced laws across 50 states with the snap of their fingers. Because “love”?

Impeaching 10% of randomly selected Federal judges would go a long way to establishing some humility. Nothing quite focuses the mind like a …..

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Soverytired1
5 years ago

Impeach is probably not possible given the ignorance of the population. What also might be effective is to assert control of the people over the courts rulings, such as the legislature vetoing such rulings when they overrule their legislation, something like the executive’s veto upon the legislature. Of course, that seems improbable as well.

Nathan
Nathan
5 years ago

I was never excited about Kegstand Kavanaugh since there are always enough finks, in Zman’s terminology, on SCROTUS to make sure the rich and powerful get what they want and that the dirt people lose. I was cringing when /ourguys/ went all in with the “he’s going to be so rage pilled he’ll stick it to the babykillers and feminist wack jobs!”

Kavanaugh was always a system approved faux conservative. The overreaction to his nomination was telling, however. Why are the courts so powerful that a milquetoast guy like him generates total panic?

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Reply to  Nathan
5 years ago

Milquetoast is right. A writer at the NY Times suggested that Kavanaugh throwing ice cubes at someone in a bar while he was in university was grounds for not approving him. Freakin’ ice cubes! I would have more respect for him if he threw a punch. Geez, with an Irish name like “Kavanaugh” I would think that he would enjoy a brawl.

Zman observed that the Cloud People, an Kavanaugh is a Cloud person, are physical cowards.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaehdiel
5 years ago

“You just threw ice at me? Ice? You’re a pussy and I’m going to kill you.”

*Kavanaugh pisses his pants*

the Russians
the Russians
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
5 years ago

Panties…

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
5 years ago

>>>The new elite that coalesced in the middle of the last century lacked an historical attachment to the Anglo-Saxon form of jurisprudence. Instead, they either explicitly rejected that as bourgeois, and therefore illegitimate. Or, they came from a different legal tradition in which judges made and interpreted the law. <<<

Oh Gawd! Whomever could you be referring to?

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  MemeWarVet
5 years ago

(((Whomever)))

Nathan
Nathan
Reply to  MemeWarVet
5 years ago

There’s a whole book in the Old Testament called “Judges” for a reason. In our system, representatives are supposed to write the laws. In the Jewish system judges rule. It sure looks like we’re under Jewish occupation when one looks at the power of the courts.

StrangerInAStrangeLand
StrangerInAStrangeLand
Reply to  Nathan
5 years ago

Last verse of last chapter of said book: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  StrangerInAStrangeLand
5 years ago

For context, basically the story is the story of pretty much all tribal life in a stone/bronze age civilization. After a nice little genocide of the men, boys, and married women of Jabesh-gilead, the Israelites took all the girls and virgins and gave them to the Benjaminites. But this wasn’t enough, so they saw that a festival of the Lord was taking place, and told the Benjamites to go and ‘steal’ themselves wives. Unclear exactly what that entailed. And then it basically ends with them saying ‘everyone did whatever they wanted to do.’ Oh, and they gave these women to… Read more »

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Nathan
5 years ago

The term ‘Judge’ in the book is probably better translated as ‘Chieftain’, ‘Leader’, or even ‘Consul’, given the military leadership of the ‘Judges’ in that book. Later, the Hebrews used the term exclusively for the person administering justice, but that’s not what it used to mean. The Phoencians/Carthaginians had a similar word to indicate their rulers – ‘suffetes’.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  BadThinker
5 years ago

BT, I might also add that the “law” was the Torah, considered God’s word/law given to man. We of course discarded that a long time ago and instead have been trying to write our “own” law.

And here we are….

Diversity Heretic
Member
5 years ago

A few observations. Perhaps the defining moment of the Trump Administration occurred in the first few weeks when the Administration acceded to a federal court ruling barring implementation of Trump’s travel ban. There was no need for interpretation; the law was crystal clear that the President had authority to ban aliens, or groups of aliens, for any reason whatsoever. Trump could have defied the ruling, told the officials in the relevant agencies to ignore any court orders purporting to stop them from enforcing the travel ban, and to disarm and take into custody any federal marshalls attempting to enforce the… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
5 years ago

Trump swore an oath to defend the Constitution which required him to defy that ruling. If any part of the Con is going to survive, America needs more “Consitutional crises,” not less. Everyone knows I think the Magic Paper died in 1860, so I won’t belabor that point.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
5 years ago

Had Trump defied the Fed Judge ruling, we’d now be bitching about President Pence. It’s just that simple. We need to stop conflating Federal law requirements and impeachment requirements. Impeachment is purely a political act and based on what the opposition can get away with at the time. The Trump opposition has spent the entire length of Trump’s presidency looking for an excuse. Trump has deftly avoided giving them one.

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Compsci
5 years ago

O.K. Trump deftly avoided giving the opposition an excuse to impeach him. And what has that gotten him (or us)?

UpYours
UpYours
Reply to  Federalist
5 years ago

It got him and you 2 additional SC judges that upheld the travel ban.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Compsci
5 years ago

That’s a cope, but electoral politics aren’t a way out of this mess, just a means of monkey-wrenching. Demographics will make sure no one has to pretend to “deftly avoid” defending the White race within 10 years or so. GOP delenda est.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Compsci
5 years ago

In 2017 the Republican Party controlled the House of Representatives and Trump was a newly sworn-in president. The chance of a House impeachment then were practically nil. And the Senate was also controlled by the Republican Party, so getting a two-thirds vote to remove Trump from office were less than impeachment in the first place. And if a president is going to be impeached and removed from office, it would be better if it was on a matter of high principle (“Who run Bartertown?”). If Congress wants to make the courts superior to the president in matters of border control,… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
5 years ago

No one says Trump was not naive. He trusted his party and they betrayed him. Of that Rep majority you tout, were dozens of never Trumpers. That’s what happens when you elect a complete novice to the job, that or you get a puppet like Obama and Bush. People voted (took a chance) for a novice. They got one. As most people here seem at least to agree on, Trump is giving us time to prepared for what’s down the road. I welcome that reprieve. But welcoming a reprieve is not necessarily the same as arguing for a political solution.

Felix_Krull
Member
Reply to  Compsci
5 years ago

Of that Rep majority you tout, were dozens of never Trumpers. That’s what happens when you elect a complete novice to the job, that or you get a puppet like Obama and Bush.

It’s what happens when you elect a bunch of Israel-firsters to Congress.

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
5 years ago

Of course it’s a moot point now because Trump has never done anything on any issue. But, early on he could have let it be known to the Supreme Court through back channels that he would defy an order on some issue that he thought important enough. The threat may have failed and Trump would have then either had to defy the order or give in. However, there is a very good chance that the SC would have backed down to save face. If they rule in Trump’s favor, then the Supreme Court’s power and prestige remains intact because they… Read more »

Max
Member
5 years ago

“She has no respect for the law or the process that form and uphold the law. ” Why should she? She is utterly convinced of the moral superiority of her position. The overwhelming goodness of banning guns trumps petty things like the rule of law. Obviously the (cultural) Marxist infestation of the academy is massive problem for those of us who want a semblance of rational governance. It’s amazing that we just turned over the keys to the entire educational system to Marxists. What were conservatives doing the 1960s? Having said all that, The Federal Society is probably only second… Read more »

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Max
5 years ago

Geezus Kryste. Public funded and run education in this country run by Marxists goes a lot further back than the 1960s. One of the planks of Communism – is the takeover of education – and the infestation of education by Marxists. That task was made easy in the US by Horace Mann: ” About Mann’s intellectual progressivism, the historian Ellwood P. Cubberley said: No one did more than he to establish in the minds of the American people the conception that education should be universal, non-sectarian, free, and that its aims should be social efficiency, civic virtue, and character, rather… Read more »

Johnny55
Johnny55
5 years ago

Listening to the Ben Shapiro show, three things struck me: 1) he is an outright enemy, not just a cuck; 2) I know I shouldn’t be but I am amazed at how coordinated the “media” is with this white supremacist garbage, hot take: this is going to backfire big time; and 3) this is not going to hold for much longer. The mask has dropped, it used to be that the left would hint at things, etc., but they’ve really lost it. There are no pretenses anymore. If you support Trump you must be “eradicated” per a CNN guy on… Read more »

the Russians
the Russians
Member
Reply to  Johnny55
5 years ago

I’ve been curious about who is issuing the daily talking points for quite a while. Once in a while, I’ll notice that a few “journalists” can at least re-order the wording but many/most regurgitate the entire paragraph

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  the Russians
5 years ago
Shrugger
Shrugger
5 years ago

When corruption in the courts becomes widespread, other forms of justice will emerge.

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Reply to  Shrugger
5 years ago

I was thinking the same thing, unfortunately.

When the authorities can’t or won’t enforce the law, historically people took the law into their own hands. Vigilante justice out of necessity.

We’re in a low-level civil war right now and I can see death squads targeting individuals or specific political groups rather than innocent people going about their daily business. I’m thinking of James Hodginkson, the Bernie Bro who shot up the Republican baseball game and nearly killed Steven Scalise, and Anders Brevik, who killed 77, 69 of whom who were attendees at a Workers Youth League summer camp.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Reply to  Shrugger
5 years ago

Nobody likes a crooked judge..

until you need one.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Shrugger
5 years ago

The opening scene in The Godfather depicts an Italian asking Don Corleone for justice for his injured daughter, because the courts have turned her attackers loose. Look for more of this!

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Shrugger
5 years ago

As everyone from Coulter to Greg Johnson to Mike Enoch keep warning, if you shut down legitimate means of dissent, the more psychologically fragile dissidents will start cracking, wig-nat style. For the Fed-Stasi, that’s a feature, not a bug. We’re going to have to work double-time to police our own ranks ala Johnson’s admonisments at C-C re: this weekend’s nutters, but I’ll throw in a caveat that Greg left unsaid. Communites can provide the support that potential lone wolves need to get their heads right rather than leaving them atomized to snap alone under the deliberate psy-opping of globo-Schlomo. Before… Read more »

Johnny55
Johnny55
5 years ago

Your BLAZING HOT WHITEPILL of the day. There is a fascinating Daily Caller article about the Amish. In literally 220 years, if everything remains as is, the Amish population will EQUAL the entire current population of the United States. That’s right. It’s the grain of rice on the chess board. In 1900 there were roughly 6,000 Amish. Today, it’s close to 350,000. Their birth rates and retention rates have remained rock solid for over 100 years. If they remain so, the future truly does belong to the Amish!

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Reply to  Johnny55
5 years ago

They’re pacifists.

George Orwell remarked: “People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.” My dad hit Omaha Beach the morning of June 6 so that the Amish could live their lives the way they chose.

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaehdiel
5 years ago

Not George Orwell. Herman Wouk in “The Caine Mutiny”.

Johnny55
Johnny55
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaehdiel
5 years ago

Then it was a good investment apparently.

ReturnOfBestGuest
ReturnOfBestGuest
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaehdiel
5 years ago

I wonder what those WWII guys would have thought if they knew that in 2019 police snipers would be stationed on the roof of a public library in Spokane with their guns trained on suburban mothers protesting Drag Queen Story Hour?

The Last Stand
The Last Stand
Reply to  ReturnOfBestGuest
5 years ago

Probably something along these lines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)

(((They))) Live
(((They))) Live
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaehdiel
5 years ago

Na your dad hit the beach in France so followers of another minority religion could rule over him as they chose

The Amish had nothing to fear from AH or Germany

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Johnny55
5 years ago

For anyone who doesn’t want to party like it’s 1699, that is not a White Pill Still. even though stats don’t work that way , the US population will be far more religious than now simply by reproductive differences Amish TFR 5-7 Orthodox Jewish TFT 5-7 Other Religious TFR 3+ (Evangelical, LDS, Devout Catholic, Orthodox) Secular well under 2 This is a product of catabolic collapse so USA 2239 will probably look like USA 1909 technologically with some differences. This certainly rules out say space travel or any future tech, no one will be able to understand it and many… Read more »

Johnny55
Johnny55
Reply to  A.B Prosper
5 years ago

I don’t get this? I’d much rather have the Amish as a base population to work with frankly. And the rest of America won’t go away, it will still be there and the tech, etc, won’t go away either. And yes, the Orthodox will take over Israel in literally one more generation. There will be no further liberal governments in Israel possible in 20 years.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Johnny55
5 years ago

The thing is, the tech will go away . Some of it is already crumbling around us. Below replacement fertility means as natural or hell unnatural death takes people, new people don’t replace them . Ever We’ve had roughly 50 years of below replacement fertility and if it weren’t for mass immigration we’d be entering a decline rather shortly 3x this long means a serious population decline and those stats as noted means almost no one left isn’t of those categories if the largest group is Amish, who precisely is going to keep a complex tech base alive ? They… Read more »

Johnny55
Johnny55
Reply to  A.B Prosper
5 years ago

Oh I agree with that completely. Idiocracy was a prophecy. However, I’ll take my chances with the Amish average IQ well over the imported sub 70 IQ Somalis the democrats are so found of. In literally two more generations, the Amish will be a sizeable portion of 3 entire states. Ohio will remain deep blood red and PA will finally become more reliable than FL in the red column. It’s quite astonishing actually. They are going to need more land quite soon.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Johnny55
5 years ago

I don’t know what the average IQ of the typical Amish is, but I’ve read that they have some serious genetic inbreeding problems/diseases. If, and I don’t know this specifically, they suffer from closeness resembling (effectively) the Pakistani cousin marriages problem in ME and UK, then don’t expect technical savvy or even average IQ. Much of their survival success may be that they scrape the land for their livelihood, with the most primitive means known. That being said, they may not be the group to lead back into the light, but rather the group to show us how to survive… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  A.B Prosper
5 years ago

Other Religious TFR 3+ (Evangelical, LDS, Devout Catholic, Orthodox)

That demographic is larger than Amish and Orthodox Jews and isn’t stupid or anti-technology. The tech isn’t going away.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Vizzini
5 years ago

And they may not have the resources to do that much. No oil, no coal , no nukes and fusion a happy twenty years away Also in that time frame, the other groups would in theory been heavily outbred by the Amish who will be the dominant culture Catabolic collapse is a right royal beotch and when The Western Roman Empire succumbed to it they went from one million people to ten thousand or less and lost almost all their tech base This is 99% population decline BTW if anything we have it worse in some ways since we won’t… Read more »

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  A.B Prosper
5 years ago

“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.”

— Edward Abbey

A.B., your pro-natalist rants sometimes reach the heights of absurdity.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Gravity Denier
5 years ago

I have no clue how you think I’m pro natal.

I’m far from it and am completely fine with population decline so long as the demography is favorable. The US would be better with half the current population

Pointing out we’d have decline without immigration is a value neutral statement.

Broadly my POV is end cultural marxism end immigration, have large scale repatriation and let the chips fall where they may

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  A.B Prosper
5 years ago

A.B., if I’ve misunderstood you, my apologies. But I’ve never read anything from you like the reply above, only hand-wringing about sub-replacement birth rates. We can agree about what you have just said.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Gravity Denier
5 years ago

No apology needed. The Internet is terrible for nuance of any kind.

I’m not one to tell other people to have kids anyway being middle aged happily single and having no interest in children.

S18-1000
S18-1000
5 years ago

Judge Josephine Staton has made her decision; now let her enforce it

Carl B.
Carl B.
5 years ago

“Justice?” What’s that?

The s*** is hitting the fan. Based on the President’s address this morning and the anti-White/anti-2A screaming from the Media/Left today, freedom and “justice” in this country are as dead as a hammer. The 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments are history.

My guess is that this site and similar sites will soon be censored/banned. “Assault” rifles/semi-autos will be banned. It’s over, folks. Prepare accordingly.

Calsdad
Calsdad
5 years ago

As usual – you and a good many of the people who frequent the comment section are off – by DECADES – on when the rot set in. Delayed reaction – that’s the term of the day. Seems I have to keep posting this: https://mises.org/library/revolution-was There are those who still think they are holding the pass against a revolution that may be coming up the road. But they are gazing in the wrong direction. The revolution is behind them. It went by in the Night of Depression, singing songs to freedom. There are those who have never ceased to say… Read more »

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Calsdad
5 years ago

You’re still too far ahead. What we have today is a result of the conquest of the various American States by New England in the Civil War.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  BadThinker
5 years ago

This.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  BadThinker
5 years ago

Yes , but…………. much of the increase in Federal government was rolled back after the Civil War. The milita system in particular – still existed and didn’t become the “National Guard” until 1903 or something like that. You see – this is why I keep referring back to Garet Garret’s “Revolution Was” – and in particular his comment of “revolution within the form”. Once CONTROl of the militia transitioned over to the Federal government – we no longer had the same “militia” system – no matter how hard they continue to try and propagandize that we do. The militia was… Read more »

Rogeru
Rogeru
Reply to  Calsdad
5 years ago

Pinpointing the start is tricky. I’d say the groundwork for Empire was laid, intentionally or not, in 1789 with the implementation of the Constitution. Then the 1848 socialist revolution failed in Germany and many fled here settling above the Mason Dixon. After the war(“the second founding “), things settled down but the Bill of Rights was flipped to apply to states. Meanwhile (((Eastern European ))) immigrants began arriving in large numbers and taking over the Democratic Party and things began accelerating :WWII, desegregation, Hart Cellar, etc. Its a long, sad story. The Iron Curtain Over America is an interesting book… Read more »

Carrie
Reply to  Calsdad
5 years ago

Do you REALLY think the regular commenters on here are FDR lovers?

THere has been nothing to support that statement. What makes you say that?

When I read Diana West’s book called “American Betrayal”, I learned much more about FDR, Lend-Lease, Commie infiltration of the White House, etc.
I was never a huge fan of the guy (some then-unknown instinct told me he wasn’t the best…), but after learning more about him: Yikes.

From that time on (about 2015), I have only referred to him as a schmuck. And that’s being kind.

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Reply to  Calsdad
5 years ago

Arguably, the US became an empire as a result of the Spanish-American War. We gained temporary control of Cuba, along with the Phillippines, Guam and Puerto Rico.

roo_ster
Member
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaehdiel
5 years ago

This yankee thinks that the USA became an empire when it compelled by force of arms the confederate states to join the USA.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  roo_ster
5 years ago

Good point. Most of the blacks in the North, originate from the South.

So I suppose you could directly trace the root of the problem directly back to the forced inclusion of the Confederates back into the “Republic”.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaehdiel
5 years ago

Thanks, I always wondered how we got stuck with those welfare babies.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Calsdad
5 years ago

The Old Republic began to die with the advent of the Industrial Revolution. Our Constitution was written by and for a largely agrarian society with a small number of merchants and very little in the way of manufacturing. By the time of the Civil War, our country was simply a different nation composed of powerful, wealthy individuals whose interests were no longer aligned with those of individual states and landholders or vice versa. Once the merchant class had the bit between its teeth, all the issues of modernism flooded behind, probably of necessity. Democracy on a gigantic scale and the… Read more »

beau
beau
5 years ago

the female california judge was likely chosen PRECISELY because she thinks the way she does.

there are Americans and there are amerikans. she is an amerikan.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
5 years ago

The courts were a mess by the time Griswold vs. CT came out. If you really want to see a Supreme Court decision that was a five alarm fire, check out: Schlecter Poultry Corp. Vs the United States,1935.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.L.A._Schechter_Poultry_Corp._v._United_States Also, check out Wickard vs. Filburn, 1942, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn Those two cases were a one-two punch that brought down the historical relationship between the Federal Govt. and the governed. People forget that for most of our history the Federal Govt. only stepped into problems when two or more states were at loggerheads over something, as designed by the constitution. With these decisions the… Read more »

TomA
TomA
5 years ago

Here is an extreme analogy that may be helpful. Imagine that a small asteroid strikes the earth and throws a lot of dust into the atmosphere which causes a global winter for several years (this has actually happened long before our species evolved). Now, what is the likelihood that we will be able to maintain our current standard of living? Will being highly skilled at whining increase your chances of survival? We have bad judges because we have bad voters because we live in an environment that degrades the species rather than elevates it.

Johnny55
Johnny55
5 years ago

Guns could be the flashpoint issue, frankly. Revolts do not occur when the people are distracted and their bellies are full. They just don’t or very very rarely.

Thinking long and hard about things, the gun issue is one in which you might actually see some REAL pushback. Gun culture is like a cult. These guys do not screw around.

Now they got the AWB through the first time way back when in the ’90s, but much has become different now. Just spitballin but on this one I think there could be some real pushback.

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Reply to  Johnny55
5 years ago

The defense of the Second Amendment is one of the only two successful conservative causes. To a lesser degree, the prolifers succeeded in restricting abortion in a number of states. On all others, there was a fighting retreat, but still a retreat.

The Last Stand
The Last Stand
Reply to  Johnny55
5 years ago

It all depends on the tactics used. If I wanted to do it, I would avoid any sort of overt police action on a large scale. Make the other guys fire the first shot and paint them as dangerous nutjobs.

The Babe
The Babe
Member
5 years ago

This is such an important issue that, in order to spread awareness of it, we have to have a term that encapsulates the meaning of the problem for normies, and is catchy and easy to remember.

The technical term for rule by judges is “kritarchy,” but normie ain’t going to use or remember something so alien sounding.

Our phrasemakers need to channel the spirit of Sailer and Derbyshire for a good coinage or rehabilitation. Something along the lines of “judicial tyranny,” “rogue judges,” “gangster judges”…

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  The Babe
5 years ago

A populace raised and educated in the Second Founding Civ Nat reverence for Magic Paper & muh Rule of Law is meme-resistant on this. The only thing that snaps the Imperial Conditioning is pain – being on the receiving end of “justice” or being close with someone who is. The Divorce Industry has probably done more to swell dissident ranks than every wordsmith out there. The FBI seems to be gearing up for a Dissident Industry that’s going to start pushing for that lead. Stay tuned.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Babe
5 years ago

You’re over-thinking it. Kritarchy may not be an every day word, but it’s a single term, most would tend to remember it because it’s so different, and it starts with the same hard “c” as cuck. It’s a good word and, even as stupid and ignorant as most normiecons are, they can be made to stretch their tiny little minds occasionally.

ReturnOfBestGuest
ReturnOfBestGuest
Reply to  3g4me
5 years ago

I sometimes get “Kritarchy” and “Kakistocracy” mixed up. Of course they are not mutually exclusive terms. . .
😉

Member
5 years ago

The Constitution is just a rationalization device and it has been this way for many decades. Even the framing of this issue is bad. The judge ruled that citizens don’t need semi-automatic long guns for self defense. We will notice that self-defense is not mentioned in the Second Amendment. There is another case that is a bit more illustrative and that is Maryland V Craig (https://www.oyez.org/cases/1989/89-478) where the court decided that an enumerated right we clearly had does not exist. Then there is Wickard V Filburn, where the courts decided there was no limit to government regulation. The entire judicial… Read more »

StrangerInAStrangeLand
StrangerInAStrangeLand
5 years ago

“The political class now fights for the power to stock the courts with people, who promise to pervert the law in favor of their side at the expense of the other”.
The old saw: “first we kill all the lawyers” seemed to be the solution. Appears lawyers no longer matter, and now….

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  StrangerInAStrangeLand
5 years ago

Judges are mostly lawyers.

Rogeru
Rogeru
Reply to  BadThinker
5 years ago

So is Congress.

Epaminondas
Member
5 years ago

Law, say the gardeners, is the sun, Law is the one All gardeners obey To-morrow, yesterday, to-day. Law is the wisdom of the old, The impotent grandfathers feebly scold; The grandchildren put out a treble tongue, Law is the senses of the young. Law, says the priest with a priestly look, Expounding to an unpriestly people, Law is the words in my priestly book, Law is my pulpit and my steeple. Law, says the judge as he looks down his nose, Speaking clearly and most severely, Law is as I’ve told you before, Law is as you know I suppose,… Read more »

Walking Man
Walking Man
Reply to  Epaminondas
5 years ago

‘In the burrows of the Nightmare Where Justice naked is, Time watches from the shadow And coughs when you would kiss… ‘Where the beggars raffle the banknotes And the Giant is enchanting to Jack, And the Lily-white Boy is a Roarer, And Jill goes down on her back… ‘O look, look in the mirror, O look in your distress: Life remains a blessing Although you cannot bless. ‘O stand, stand at the window As the tears scald and start; You shall love your crooked neighbour With your crooked heart.’ It was late, late in the evening, The lovers they were… Read more »

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Walking Man
5 years ago

Nice. Who?

Maus
Maus
5 years ago

I am intrigued by the new talking point in media about mass shootings: how quickly the police respond and neutralize the problem. Apparently, we are to believe that a lone wolf has 1-2 minutes to peg the Breivik meter before he will be killed or captured.
Those laconic Spartans were founts of wisdom. Molon labe. Make them come to you to enforce the corrupt judge’s pronunciamento. You may still die; but Ruby Ridge and Waco seemed to drive more anger at Fed overreach. If the Saxons are slow to hate, let the muds and the feds accelerate…

Christopher Chantrill
Christopher Chantrill
5 years ago

I think it is a mistake to see lefty jurisprudence as “corruption.”

The lefty judges are merely “legislating their morality.” Because justice.

And politics is downstream from culture is downstream from religion is downstream from biology.

Dave
Dave
5 years ago

Note to posterity: If you decide to have another try at representative government with a formal Constitution, you need to establish certain rules as absolute. E.g. “marriage is between a man and a woman”, “free love is not a right”, “all men have the right to own and carry guns” (whether or not they are members of a “well-ordered militia”), “women can’t vote”, etc. Furthermore, key points need to be underlined with, “If any judge discovers an exception to this rule, his or her life is forfeit. Whosoever maims or kills said judge has committed no crime.” Truth is eternal,… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Dave
5 years ago

You left out the issues of race and tribalism that will sabotage any constitutional republic if not addressed explicitly. If you don’t address these issues, there won’t be enough people around to enforce your absolute rules.

Dave
Dave
Reply to  LineInTheSand
5 years ago

All republics suffer the temptation to expand the franchise, as it is hoped that the new voters will reward the party that made them voters. One remedy for this is the Prussian system of sorting voters into upper, middle, and lower classes such that each class provides 1/3 of total tax revenue, and giving each class equal representation in government, with no representation for people who don’t pay taxes. If Warren Buffet pays 1/3 of all tax revenue in Nebraska, he gets to hand-pick 1/3 of Nebraska’s allotted representatives. Government employees and contractors don’t pay taxes, they receive taxes, and… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Dave
5 years ago

You’re avoiding the obvious issue of race. What if non-whites are significantly more tribal and stupid? Do you want to allow them to immigrate and vote like non-whites?

Sure government employees are parasites. But they are not in the same cognitive category as blacks and Amerindians. C’mon.

Why are you working so hard to allow blacks and Amerindians to have a vote that counts as much as yours?

UpYours
UpYours
Reply to  LineInTheSand
5 years ago

Ah yes, race..race..race. I don’t mind a boot on my face forever as long as it is a white man’s boot, this thinking by the alt-white is why it will never be significant or relevant.

Majority of non-whites are leftard citizen of the world types but….majority of the leftard citizen of the world types are white. No amount of screeching by the race obsessed booger sniffers is going to change this.

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
5 years ago

America 1620: a gigantic place there for the taking.
America 2020: a gigantic place there for the taking.
America 2420: a gigantic place where white people on reservations own casinos and sell tax-free cigarettes.

The Iroquois pulled it off, why not us?

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Pimpkin\'s nephew
5 years ago

That’s the cowards out. It would be better to scorch the earth , render FUSA uninhabitable for a thousand years and die to a man than to die like that , drunk drugged and stuck in crap land lorded over by Africans

Don’t run, don’t cuck, get hard, get good and for god sake get organized and take back what is yours

It’s far from insurmountable if you know what you want

If you don’t have a specific list of grievances and solutions as to why your guys can do better start there

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  A.B Prosper
5 years ago

Comfortability factor is still to high Brother for people to get their act together and start working towards a goal…Bread and Circuses still rule the day…

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Lineman
5 years ago

I can’t really blame anyone for that. The modern level of prosperity is a gilded cage and a lot of people even on our side don’t have future descendants to fight for or really any idea what kind of alternative they want anyway. Its very hard to sell “make divorce harder, ban porn, dry up the drug supply, control imports.” to people unless they can see that these actions would make for meaningful improvements in their life Of the issues that can get people fired up there is abortion, guns and to a lesser degree immigration. IMO anyway the last… Read more »

Christopher S. Johns
Christopher S. Johns
5 years ago

Patrick Crusius Manifesto: The Inconvenient Truth (an excerpt): About Me In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and his manifesto. This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas. They are the instigators, not me. I am simply defending my country from cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion. Some people will think this statement is hypocritical because of the nearly complete ethnic and cultural destruction brought to the Native Americans by our European ancestors, but this just reinforces my point. The natives didn’t take the invasion of Europeans seriously, and now what’s left is just… Read more »

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Christopher S. Johns
5 years ago

‘Lucid young men’ with weapons and manifestos. Great news for everyday people minding their business.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Christopher S. Johns
5 years ago

A man on another forum remarked, given the facts in the Manifesto, you could argue that he’s the sane one and all the people sitting around doing nothing are the crazy ones.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Vizzini
5 years ago

The authorities and social media suppress these ‘manifestos’ b/c they are afraid the content will make sense to too many people. I am not ready to ‘endorse’ either this or the Christchurch guy’s but the situation is really ‘FUBAR’. (I still think mass murder is the worst way to ‘address’ it but what a damn mess, for all of us.)

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 years ago

Mass murder without purpose like killing a bunch of people at a Walmart is evil and stupid. The problem lies at the level of the leadership I can’t endorse illegal acts , Breivik unlike this moron at least understood the problem space and attacked the source, i.e the next generation of his enemies The reason for this is Breivik was culturally farther left and understood the basic idea of collective responsibility , goal setting and such The Right is too individualistic to have a group goal, to act to that goal and to even understand the group think of the… Read more »

Monsieur le Baron
5 years ago

You can’t get elites to respect bourgeois law because aristocrats derive immense from spiting the bourgeois at every turn. But you can put the fear of God into them.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
5 years ago

Z Man said: “We have reached the point now where the judges no longer feel that have any need to respect the spirit of the laws and the system that created them. Every case that goes to the Supreme Court has four votes for or against it, regardless of the issue. The four Progressive fanatics are so predictable, it is just assumed they will rule in favor of their tribe’s wishes. The only question is which “conservative” judge will be selected to fink on his team and side with the orientalists on the bench.” Nicolás Gómez Dávila said: “To reform… Read more »

Vegetius
Vegetius
5 years ago

[[[They]]] see the law as nothing but an obstacle course, which they must navigate in order to get what they want.

Wan Wei Lin
Wan Wei Lin
5 years ago

John Adams, George Washington and others noted that without virtue America could not succeed.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Wan Wei Lin
5 years ago

Wan Wei Lin said: “John Adams, George Washington and others noted that without virtue America could not succeed.” Indeed. A Constitutional Republic can provide a place where liberty is safeguarded. But the Constitution can’t guide you in what manner you should live out your liberty.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Official Bologna Tester
5 years ago

Non-whites, as a group, are incapable of race-blind constitutionalism.

If you prioritize liberty over whiteness, you lose your liberty.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  LineInTheSand
5 years ago

Exactly Right Line…

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Wan Wei Lin
5 years ago

Thought better of it.

Gun Grabber
Gun Grabber
5 years ago

I’m in favor of gun control. The answer to these attacks to stop potential mass murders from getting weapons of the power of an AK47. That deranged young man in Florida should never have been able to amass an arsenal of that power in so short a time. Why do people need firearms like that? It ought to be very difficult to own a firearm. This would solve so many problems. This one issue I’m with the leftists on.

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Gun Grabber
5 years ago

You’re “with the Leftists” because you are a Leftist.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Gun Grabber
5 years ago

Gun Grabber, good moniker. You are most likely a Leftist troll, who never owned a firearm. Probably you’d wet your pants if you touched one. But I’ll bite. Here’s your answer—which you will never understand—“We need AK-47’s because the Government has AK-47’s”

Gun Grabber
Gun Grabber
Reply to  Compsci
5 years ago

The government also has MX missiles, a sort of icbm. Do you need these too?

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Gun Grabber
5 years ago

No, but Eric Swalwell, you’re Beta-Male hero, apparently does.

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Gun Grabber
5 years ago

I know you’re just a troll but actually the government doesn’t have MX (Peacekeeper) missiles anymore.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Gun Grabber
5 years ago

Yes. The militia ought to keep them for use when called out to defend the land. Not a professional army.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Gun Grabber
5 years ago

Pulled from index card talking point #46

Good job.

Seriously – why do you even try? All you’re doing is regurgitating talking points from your handlers……………

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Gun Grabber
5 years ago

Under the proper as intended interpretation of the Constitution , the US does not have a standing army only a sizable standing Nazy, some of whom are trained Marines Actual national Defense is from well regulated, that is properly equipped and trained civilians who would be armed with military hardware. Back in the day armed warships were privately owned and prior to the NFA, a private attack aircraft would be perfectly legal though some states restricted explosive ordnance . Given the cost of modern military hardware, 10 million for an Abrams tank, likely State governments would end up with most… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Gun Grabber
5 years ago

Mass shootings aren’t new. Even in 1927 some guy in Michigan wiped out over 40 kids in a schoolhouse. They were rare, because anyone who did that knew he would be swiftly executed. Today the ones that survive languish in cells while they see psychiatrists on the taxpayer dime. Throw pharmaceuticals into the mix, and a deteriorating culture on top of that, that’s what you get.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Gun Grabber
5 years ago

Here is an answer that you may not like. If you take away firearms (which are in the vast majority of cases used for hunting and self defense), then people will find other ways to defend themselves (both against criminals and a rogue government). And you will not like those other ways as they will be much more surreptitious and deadly than an AK-47. Are you sure you want to start an arms race in personal protection devices in this era of cheap high tech materials and parts? What if the thing that kills isn’t a bullet or even visible?

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Ris_Eruwaehdiel
Reply to  TomA
5 years ago

If someone wants to commit mass murder, he could toss a molotov cocktail into a shopping mall food court at Christmas time. The place would be packed. Drive a car into a crowd of school kids at recess. Where there’s a will there’s a way.

Gun Grabber
Gun Grabber
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaehdiel
5 years ago

That’s true, but those attacks have a shorter time duration. There’s something less empowering about them than using an assault rifle. It would lead to civil war to try to implement, I realize

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Gun Grabber
5 years ago

And I highly bet it wouldn’t be you coming to take them…

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Gun Grabber
5 years ago

Dear Gun Grabber. It is my firm belief, that in order to stop not just gun violence, but all human violence what so ever. We should immediately petition the federal government in the strongest possible terms to begin a massive research project to discover a process, whereby all of humanity can be transformed into butterflys. So there ya go Mr. Grabber, problem solved.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
Reply to  TomA
5 years ago

The U.S. had the second highest number of gun-related deaths in 2016 after Brazil and is obviously trying to repeat or exceed this “claim to fame” in 2019.

Switzerland has a very high per-capita gun ownership for a European country, (27.6/100 persons). Over all, about 19th in the world. And guess what, no one over here is shooting up the local Coop stores.

Wonder why? That’s a rhetorical question. I think we’re all “woke” enough to know why.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
5 years ago

No, in Germany your Merkel’s ‘Farbenkinder’ are chopping up ppl w samurai swords, running ppl over w trucks, shoving them in front of trains or simply ignoring ‘Mutti Merkel’s’ gun ban and shooting ppl.

When will ppl learn that gun bans ONLY apply to those who are not also interested in breaking the ban on murder??

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
5 years ago

Karl Horst(Germany) said: ” Switzerland has a very high per-capita gun ownership for a European country, (27.6/100 persons). Over all, about 19th in the world. And guess what, no one over here is shooting up the local Coop stores.” Dear Mr.(Germany). The United States of America is around 13% Black and 16.7% Hispanic and Latino. The vast majority of the firearms in these minority neighborhoods have been obtained illegally. Most of the murders, rapes, robberies and assaults in the U.S. are perpetrated by these black/brown people. Would it be ok with you if we send these barbarians to your city?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Official Bologna Tester
5 years ago

Karl is usually a well thought out commentator on this site, so I must ask him,”How do you post what you posted, and use the examples cited wrt gun violence? “ Do you not understand the basic principles discussed here repeatedly wrt HBD science? If you ignore HBD principles, then you will never understand how Brazil can be similar to USA (overall) in gun violence. You must rethink and try to understand at least two things: 1) mass shootings as per this week are rare and account for less than 1% of death by firearms in the USA, and 2)… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Compsci
5 years ago

I think that was Karl’s point. I think his last three sentences give the clue.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Gun Grabber
5 years ago

This is particularly low-grade trolling. Zero stars.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Vizzini
5 years ago

Zero stars, one bullet lol

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Gun Grabber
5 years ago

LOL. You can’t even understand simple things like what the term “arsenal” means – you expect anybody who understands this issue to respect your opinion? Here’s a question you should answer: Why is it that every single time somebody starts blathering on about how guns are the problem – their words flow as if they just copied them from a textbook passage somewhere. Does whomever is pulling your strings just hand out index cards with pre-approved words and phrases to use when discussing this subject? It’s people like you that have brought the majority of the pro-gun crowd to the… Read more »

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Gun Grabber
5 years ago

There are two over-riding reasons to own guns: to shoot anyone who 1.) breaks into your house or 2.) comes to take your guns.