Technological Despotism

In the 1990’s, it was popular for conservatives to excuse their impotence by throwing around the line, “In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve”, which they attributed to Tocqueville. So-called conservatives like Newt Gingrich were supposed to be idea men, brimming with technocratic solutions to every problem, while Clinton was a windy degenerate from a bygone era. The fact that the voters sided with Clinton over conservatives reflected poorly on the people.

The quote, of course, was not from Tocqueville. It was actually Joseph de Maistre, who coined that phrase. It was oddly symbolic of the state of conservatism. They had turned their back on everything that defined Western conservatism by that point, so forgetting seminal figures in the intellectual tradition of the Right was appropriate. In retrospect, the fact that the so-called conservatives did not understand the word “people” in the context of the quote was the most poignant error.

Putting that aside, the quote itself is a nice shorthand for the actual truth that lies behind those words. The people get the ruling elite they can produce and that ruling elite will then create a government that reflects its nature. The condition of the people is reflected in the morality of its ruling class. At the same time, the ruling class is responsible for the people. Its duty is to advance their interests. In this way, the pivot point of a people is its ruling class. It is what they make of it.

The founding generation of America were men of civic virtue. The saw the willingness to put the interests of the community ahead of private interests, as the threshold item for a leader. As a result, they rejected the monarchical system of government they inherited from England and created a republic. The constitutional system they created was based on the assumption that, in general, the sort of men who would rise to prominence were men who prized civic virtue. The Constitution reflected this.

That turned out to be the fatal flaw of the constitutional order created in Philadelphia two centuries ago. While the system of checks and balances worked to prevent the ambitious and unscrupulous from gaining politician power, it was not built for the ruling elite that would evolve in the 19th century. When the North conquered the country, America became a nascent empire. It still reflected the founding order, but its elite was now changing to reflect the changing nature of America.

The ruling elite the evolved after the Civil War and into the Industrial Revolution did not place civic virtue at the top of its moral order. Instead, it was the desire for and the love of honor that motivated the ruling classes. They quickly reorganized the government to reflect this reality. Rank and status were now the coin of the realm. Whether it was dominating some area of the economy or conquering foreign lands, the path to attaining rank and status was though government and politcs.

You can see this in the type of men who occupied high office. Before the Civil War, the leadership of the country were men who either got rich before entering government, or they were born rich. This was the result of a natural ruling class that reflected the human capital of the people. After the war, there emerged men who made their names in government. Their path to high status was not as natural leaders of their community, but as shrewd operators in the political system.

The obvious example is Abraham Lincoln, who is treated as the Moses of the second founding by the previous ruling class. This was not a man who prized civic virtue or was a natural community leader. Instead, he craved status and power. He attained those through the skillful maneuvering through politics and then through the brutal use of force to create a political order that reflected this new ruling class. For those who wonder when America will have its Sulla, look no further than Lincoln.

Every phase of an elite runs its course and this one is no different. The ruling class that evolved after the Civil War through the Cold War was built for a different age. It was industrial and it was geared to a world of industrial competition. What kept it going long after its peak was the Cold War. The stand-off with communism not only locked the New Deal political order in place, it locked in place the status system of the ruling elite. That system, thirty years after the Cold War, is now giving way to something new.

The technological age, like the industrial age, is the accelerant for a long overdue transformation of the American ruling elite. This new class is no longer created and housed within the political class. It exists outside of it, within its own power centers inside and outside of government. The intelligence services, for example, are now an independent power center, beyond the reach of Congress. Silicon Valley and Wall Street are now more powerful than Washington.

This new ruling class has a unique motivation. The elite of the republic was defined by civic virtue. The elite of the empire was defined by status and rank. This new ruling elite will be defined by the fear it instills in the public. In the technological age, fear of the oligarchs will be the supreme public virtue. Fear will be ruthlessly and creatively inculcated by a ruling elite that is wholly disconnected from the people over whom it rules. This stage of America will be the age of technological despotism.


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Saml Adams

And the technological “proscriptions” have already begun in earnest.

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I got tossed off Twitter some time ago for some very mild remarks. The purge is on.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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I got back on after a year 2 hours ago. I think I might last 48 hours this time 🤣. This isn’t despotism however. Its school marms trying desperately to channel Stalin. Petty tyrants. Its working marvelously: For Us. They get the hatred and animus directed towards tyrants, we get justly angry but super bonus points lose all regard and any fear. There is no real reason to fear these idiots – they are cowards to a man. Male. Women. Thing. These are not scary people. And no the cops and military and probably damn few if any actual dangerous… Read more »

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Never signed up for any of them.
I could never understand why any man would.

I never expected any woman to resist.

Saml Adams
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Saml Adams

The social media crap is kind of “meh”. But I work in the finance industry—and by proscription I mean—“hey nice little custom machining business ya got there—oh, you produce high precision screws for a small custom AR rifle maker, well no banking or insurance for you…no website hosting for you…oh, we don’t do payroll for companies like yours…”. Seen it up close dealing with internal “Corporate Responsibility” types. There and HR are where the leftists have infiltrated everything.

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People who are drawn to politics can be forgiven for thinking that fear and anger is the weapon the elites will use. They are used to being rustled, and seeing rustled people. Fear and anger certainly is the weapon the corporate media uses. But the corporate media is only interested in eyeballs and ears. The government does not want their citizenry constantly rustled. At best we’d get France and weekly demos, and at worst we’d get China, where rustling is ended by secret arrests and gunfire. I think the elites want to passify the citizenry…be it through censorship, creature comforts,… Read more »

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ReturnOfBestGuest

I’m not drawn to politics. I’d prefer they were a much smaller factor in my life. But here we are: the Kakistocracy writ large. As someone once said “you will be made to care.”

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Marko said: “Always remember, many more people follow sports and celebrities and TV shows than politics.” Yah. The corporate MSM sock puppets where always angry and disappointed when their polling showed that Americans by and large simply couldn’t have care less about all that Russagate BS. Traped in their D.C., New York, Hollywood group think, they pounded away at it 24/7 and zip, nada, no effect on a national level. It was hilarious.

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MemeWarVet

The post Civil War elite, for all its flaws, didn’t despise the population it ruled over. Can’t say the same for the post Cold War elite.

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

The Damned Yankees despised the people the conquered and hated them as badly as our elite does us. However they had to have someone to exploit and didn’t want to risk an insurgency where every person of significance get what Lincoln did. You can’t rule if you and yours are dead. Lincoln as bad a fate as he got, didn’t hate the South. His overarching goal was preservation of the Union . He didn’t really care how this was done or who or what benefitted In my mind he was a morally ambiguous figure , commiting what was to my… Read more »

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What bollocks.
In his first inaugural address he clearly threatens violence if the tariffs, that he had just quadrupled in some cases, were not collected.
The tariffs were to be spent by his owners, the Railroad Companies for which he was a paid lobbyist.
He was prepared to kill 700,000 people in return for his bribes,

Only a moral cripple can see any ambiguity there.

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

The USG has always used violence to collect taxes and tariffs, since the Whiskey Rebellion just as they used violence to evade taxes The US was founded on treason and has almost always been as corrupt as any 3rd world nation . It’s the norm here to use the military to break up strikes, beat people with private thugs and so on. It’s only been better since Roosevelt, roughly maybe Coolidge, not even a hundred years In a system founded by corrupt people with inherent corruption and that corruption being the social norm, politicians sucking up to the powerful is… Read more »

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

When Ross Perot ran for president in 1992, he constantly told us, “Remember…it’s YOUR country!” Today that seems like a much more alien concept than it did back then.

Hoagie
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Hoagie

It was meant as a threat.

Marko
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Marko

When I could first vote, in the 1996 election, I voted for Perot. I attended speeches by Clinton, Dole, and Perot that year, and Perot was by far the most entertaining. I used to be a bit embarrassed that he was my first vote. Now I feel that gives me some political street cred.

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Ris_Eruwaehdiel

I remember Sam Donaldson’s comment: “The minorities re-elected president Obama, but I’m going with Katty. It’s the Tea Party and thinking of the Tea Party and people like that that are driving the Republicans out of contention as a national party. You cannot win nationally if you don’t know something about the way the country’s changed, and the Tea Party seems to think the country can go back 25 or 30 years. The greatest slogan that I hated during this last campaign was “We want to take back our country.” Guys, it’s not your country anymore – it’s our country… Read more »

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I think that that was a major problem with too many tea partiers and Republicans in general at the time – they thought that the US still had the demographics of 1980.
I would disagree I think they thought demographics didn’t matter which has doomed all Civic Nationalist movements…You have to understand the brainwashing worked that said all people are the same and you can’t treat anyone different than anyone else…Events like these shootings will drive everyone deeper into that mentality as well…

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Even more then that, most Americans don’t connect dots. They see strands of the picture but never see the full picture so it is easy to distract them. This has its roots in the traditional lack of interest Americans have had for anything outside of their daily lives, celebrities and sports. Social media has just enabled people to take their traditional ignorance and get more vocal and emotional about it

Lineman
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Lineman

Sad isn’t it…

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Except for the Left’s Open Borders genocide platform and gun control.

If we had a Fabian instead of Fabulous Left (pozzed) we’d be in Deep, Deep sheeple dip.

We’re blessed with enemies such as these.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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The second week of Nov 2012 the entire Hive Mind was repeating the mantra “White Men need to realize it’s not their country anymore.”

This is the exact moment of white awakening. Go back and check anything – internet comments, columnists such as Coulter, Limbaugh, all of it.

Thank you Sam, et al. This couldn’t have happened without you.

Really the enemy is far more eloquent than we are, certainly more persuasive.

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I can see the outline of this. Since America has a three second memory, our elite are calling Trump the alpha and omega of white nationalism. Once he leaves office, white racial consciousness will be a phantasm that requires an overwhelming government to suppress. You better grovel whitey or we’ll take away your bank account, guns, speech, favorite website, kids, jobs, etc. If the corporations wont, the judges will read the law tea leaves to let the POC ascendancy do it.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Already happening. Virginia’s white AG introduced a bill that would have given the police the power to charge a person of a “hate crime” if they speak out against against protected groups. Under the law, anyone convicted of a hate crime would be prevented from owning a gun. If two people from a group are convicted of hate crimes, the group becomes a “domestic terrorism” group and thus can be disbanded or monitored by police. The bill specifically – and repeatedly – mentioned “white supremacist” and white nationalists but doesn’t BLM or Muslim groups. The bill would also allow local… Read more »

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

In other words, they tried to convince us with “diversity is a strength” propaganda. Now that there’s resistance and not everyone’s buying it, they’re going to make America multiracial even if they have to shove it down our throats by force.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

With a whole lot of white cops doing the enforcing.

Dutch
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Dutch

If you are wondering how the Jews in Nazi Germany got to where they were, just look around. The lobster pot is on the boil. The underlying structure of things may be a bit different, but the process (and likely the outcome) is pretty much the same.

But we are more likely to end up as the Huegenot rather than the Jews, at the end of it all. A historical footnote. No one will write our history, or be allowed to.

kleist
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kleist

Huguenots escaped to the US where they seamlessly blended with the WASP elite.

Dutch
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Dutch

The Huguenot escaped to all sorts of places. South Africa, the Netherlands, and so on. They blended into the prevailing cultures, and arguably lifted them up some. But the weren’t Huguenot any more, the line ceased to exist. That’s our fate, IMO.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Just adopt the label “Hispanic” and you’re golden. I’ve known plenty of white-looking Hispanics.

William Williams
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William Williams

You can (in most Anglo jurisdictions I’m aware of, as well as in Latin America) adopt any name you wish, as long as it’s not used to further criminal activity.

Just call me “Bill Gutierrez”. My grandkids will thank me….

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ReturnOfBestGuest

In some parts of the country, you can’t become a cop without “knowing” the right people. That’s one tactic the the 20th C. mobs used to take control of the cities in the northeast.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Doubtful.
They publicly refuse.

Penitent Man
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@ Citizen,

A few years back I would have said you were crazy. The Trump rallies proved differently. I expected to see reactions to the violent anti-Trump protest all end like they did with the San Diego Police Department (which met force with force and behaved like a stone wall against the hordes of villains, kudos to the SDPD). I never expected the shameful behavior of the San Jose Police Department nor the later criminal complicity of law enforcement in Charlottesville. I fear you are correct.

Saml Adams
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Saml Adams

San Diego alway struck me as an odd place within the California construct. They do some of the same butt-stupid shit as the rest of the leftists there, but also have these weird moments of complete clarity.

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So-called “hate speech” is already banned in Canada and parts of Europe. Make an accurate, but unflattering, observation about a certified victim group or question the official dogma about the Holocaust and you might end up fined or even jailed. During the Cold War, leftists defended the Soviet Union on the grounds that its citizenry was guaranteed economic security in the form of a right to a job, housing, medical care, etc. Security was more important than liberty. In the modern age, despotism is acceptable if done in the name of promoting and defending the unholy trinity of Equality-Diversity-Inclusion, the… Read more »

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It’s only a matter of time before those laws become reality here. The current Supreme Court struck down the idea of “hate speech” unanimously, but they’re going to die off and be replaced by some serious kooks.

Anyone remember zines? Those were fun. They’ll have to make a comeback if people want to say something interesting. It might be time to start buying up old printing presses.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Gun control is always good news for the Right. Always.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

When you criticize Lincoln it would be nice if you would say what he, or another person in the White House in 1860, should have done differently. Should he have let go of the South? Okay, I think and I think Lincoln thought that that would have been the end of the United States. The union was a revolving door apparently. As soon as there was any law from Washington someone didnt like, to heck w it, good bye union. That would have precluded an American superpower which, probably, means Germany, alternatively possibly Russia, would have owned Europe by now.… Read more »

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Yes but saying its all downhill since Lincoln gets you likes from Southern Fantasists. In a way It’s a pity in a fantasy alternate history they didn’t grow up under Confederate Rule. Most of them would be sharecroppers or some other menial or poor and oppressed by fear regime. The actual Confederacy with the Romance stripped away respected few rights beyond that of the Oligarchs. It was basically The Articles of Confederation but only Slave Owners were full citizens. Jefferson Davis was the worst sort of despot- the one who pulled all the strings of power to himself then Froze… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

Yes but saying its all downhill since Lincoln gets you likes from Southern Fantasists

Yup. This blog has a real record of home run analyses of current problems, trends and presenting hard facts. And then it sometimes goes off on ramblings about lost causes and ‘evil Abe’ and such. A Dixie victory would have made America arrive at its apparent destination, North Brazil, 100 years ahead of time in this universe. This combination of genuine and profound insights into what’s killing us and then thinly veiled lost causism, baffles me.

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Yes. BTW the actual Confederacy was after winning Independence planning to conquer Cuba and the rest of Mexico to get more slave lands, AND form an alliance with the Slave Power of Brazil. They actually wanted a slave Empire.

Low status whites to do the fighting. Sound familiar?

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

Dixie was never good, but becoming a multi-racial empire also destroyed the North’s potential for a society based on sound moral and racial principles And here we are, very clearly looking at a very, very bad ending for the United States, a bad ending that has inflicted a whole lot of collateral damage to the rest of the world. That isn’t a coincidence. Abolitionism and slavery were both terrible mistakes, free soil copperheads were right. A society based on free white labor is morally and economically superior to a slave society. But the South (and their pets) should have been… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

There are a few problems w that theory, not counting that it would require a parallel universe that split off in 1861 to test its accuracy. One is that the US did not become a multi-racial society for real before around 1965, 100 years after Appomatox. Before then it was basically bi-racial and whatever faults you can blame on blacks in America, high crime, low impulse control, low average IQ, political influence before 1965 is not one of them. Second problem is, if secession was legitimate, why would you assume it would stop with the South? The third is, it… Read more »

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

The presence of blacks in American society was weaponized by Jews during the civil rights movement in order to end racism and make us feel bad about it. Once we gave up racism and accepted a non-racial immigration policy, we were on the path to the current year. Merkel is a product of the American empire and the terms it imposed on Germany. She is not the kind of leader Germany would have if they were left to their own devices. I don’t think you’ve really thought through the historical effects of American leadership on White civilization. America did not… Read more »

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Moran ya Simba

America did not do a good job leading White civilization Agreed. The question is, would any realistic alternative, of which I think there are three, Germany (most probable), Russia or Imperial Britain, have done any better? I dont think so. Culturally there are quite a few similarities between Germany and the US, which one would also expect if HBD and genetics matter (Germany is the most common ancestral home for white Americans). So we can use that to speculate on the fate of a white majority country (US 1960 90% white, Germany would have been 99.99% white but still). The… Read more »

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“…North America and a united Europe, probably run from Berlin.”

I would go for that in a heartbeat over what we have today. Everything else you mention is weird speculation of the fever-swamp variety.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

You didnt understand a word of what I said.

Al from da Nort
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Al from da Nort

M y S; Excellent discussion and fun for a certain type of military history sperg. It does matter in one respect (see below). I think you are mistaken that Germany or Russia might have come to dominate N America had the South won Civil War I. IMHO, the obvious candidates are England and France. I’d postulate that they would have divided N America between themselves, England taking the N and France the S. To begin with, they were both on the move at the time, creating world empires. England had sea dominance and well established bases in Canada, handy to… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

In the late 19th century what you say might have happened. But I fail to see what would have prevented eventual German domination of Europe. A not really united Germany, led by Prussia, bodyslammed France into submission in 1870-71. The then united Germany mauled the combined French and British empires to the brink of defeat while beating the living daylights out of Russia 45 yrs later. Only eventual American intervention, after 3 years of supplying France and Britain w various things, and threatening Germany to hold off on total submarine warfare until 1917, saved Anglo-French bacon. So Europe would most… Read more »

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Al from da Nort

M y S; The point I meant to make (but obviously didn’t) is that history is *path dependent*, depending on the initial conditions *at that time*. For example, at the time of the US Civil War, German unification was 12 years in the future. And they had no navy. And, even if they had one, they could only intervene in the Americas at the sufferance of the UK, which had well-established interests and infrastructure already in place in N America. So my inference is that if any of the European imperial powers were going to intervene, England was the most… Read more »

Exile
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The best argument for enforced union was that a Balkanized North America would have been more subject to the machinations of Great Game power politics. Given that we ended up being manipulated by the British as a union rather than piecemeal for the next century, I think union was a historically-proven net-negative. Everyone who’s taking Lincoln’s side here is ignoring the simple fact that there was no need for slavery to tear the country apart in the first place. Only New England abolitionists wanted slavery abolished and/or Blacks integrated into society. Southerners, Westerners and the vast majority of New England… Read more »

A.B Prosper
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I don’t think that was practical in a world with the British Empire. A weak USA could simply be taken and the Empire at the time had that capability I suspect the Southrons would gladly have played along and put their guys in charge even under the British thumb in exchange for keeping slavery Slavery and the compromise that allowed it along with Enlightenment thinking and immigration meant the US experiment was doomed from the start. The only way it could have persevered was if we had remained as John Jay saw us With equal pleasure I have as often… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

Why DID the US become an immigrant country? I mean from the early days, just after the revolution. Who and why was it decided to let in, first (I guess) Irish and Germans, later all sorts of Europeans. And in 1965 the whole damn world.

I’ve never actually seen a history of why the US changed from a country of republican WASPs to a ‘country of immigrants’. It would probably be hard to find an honest, non-ideological, historiography of that transformation.

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My opinion and only that, a combination of the elite weakening rival power bases and the lust we have for cheap labor and fast expansion. Americans historically are as much grifters and chislers as heroic freedom fighters , hence Tom Sawyer and the fence More immigrants makes for cheaper factory labor , lower wages makes for more power for capital Early on there was also the manifest Destiny angle. Only so many English protestants and so many children with a whole lot of land and Indians This drive for growth was one of the triggers , Washington (IIRC) wanted to… Read more »

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“This drive for growth was one of the triggers , Washington (IIRC) wanted to expand his farm into Indian territory”

Read Freeman’s biography of Washington, Volume 3, and realize what bullshit you wrote.

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A.B Prosper

. My memory isn’t perfect and frankly I care little about that period however I don’t post stuff without thinking. From the Library of Congress https://www.loc.gov/collections/george-washington-papers/articles-and-essays/george-washington-survey-and-mapmaker/washington-as-land-speculator/ I can never look upon the Proclamation in any other light (but this I say between ourselves) than as a temporary expedient to quiet the minds of the Indians. It must fall, of course, in a few years, especially when those Indians consent to our occupying those lands. Any person who neglects hunting out good lands, and in some measure marking and distinguishing them for his own, in order to keep others from settling… Read more »

Lineman
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MYS
It became an immigrant country because of opportunities here that weren’t anywhere else…It was the freedom to grow and make something of yourself without the burdens of a higher earthly power taking your shit or trying to rule you…That’s what drew people here…Now to your question of the whole damn world look to who had the right to vote and who had control of the money system and that will be your answer…

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

Lineman, that explains why ppl came, not why they were allowed to come.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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That’s not geographically possible.
The geography of North America does not allow sharing. There will always be winner takes it all Atlantic to Pacific. Had we remained British we would have done the same thing. Had we become French same again. Had we become Spanish same again.

The conflict between Spanish and English for the Western Hemisphere well known. It could also be cast as age old conflict between Latin and Teuton if you want to step back far enough.

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Westerners like my own family would not have submitted to a Confederate despotism (witness the secession of WVa) and the Confederates weren’t expansionist. They wanted to keep their own lands their own way, they were not seeking to impose the plantation system on the entire U.S. Messianic Protestants are the Jews of Christianity in their zeal for treating “backward” Whites who want to live by different codes as darkies who need to be “civilized” at the point of a bayonet. Your view of the South is no different from Bush, Boot & Kristol’s view of Iraq. No wonder you wind… Read more »

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Spot. On.

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CAPT S

As a southerner reading these comments, I see our government education “history” lessons at work. “Dixie was never good” … And why might that be, because you watched Roots last night, or think Harriet Beecher Stowe was more historian than propagandist? And calling out Lincoln for his unconstitutional despotism yields “southern fantasists” … Hmmm, thanks for sharing your straightforward (i.e. ignorant) logic.

As we dissidents try to establish connections and coalitions, good reading may be found in the Anti-Federalist papers.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

I didn’t mean my comment to be a hatefest against the South. But I dont think you guys would have been a very happy or successful country on your own. During the height of the civil war, the governor of Georgia wouldnt share his supplies w the confederate government. It would have become a real circus I think and eventually something like ‘North Brazil.’ Slavery wouldnt have lasted and eventually everything would have gone to hell a lot faster than in this world. Jefferson Davis and Bobby Lee were not the men who ‘lost the Western world.’ But we ll… Read more »

Homer Hinkley
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By the 1860s the industrial revolution was just kicking in. Ultimately, slavery was on its way out. There was no need for a devastating war to settle the question. However, Lincoln was a war monger who wanted war, and so the country suffered the ravages of war and the horrors of reconstruction in the decades after. It would have been far better to let capitalism and industrialization systematically eliminate the need for slavery. That would have spared the country the last 150 years of endless racial hatreds that are now intractable and probably beyond solution.

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We’re pretty sure you’re not right. I would place my bets on the descendants of the Virginians.

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

I fully acknowledge the legitimacy of Southern secession but I regard black slavery and the importation of Africans as mistakes with very serious consequences.

And I see parallels between slave labor and today’s cheap labor. You always pay for it in the end.

(Abolition and integration were worse mistakes of course)

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The Kaiser’s Germany would have been a great improvement over what we have. Hands down.

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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Ris_Eruwaehdiel

I sometimes wonder if we would have been better off if Germany won WWII.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

An America that won WWII like no other country, was 90% white in 1945 and could hardly have been more triumphalist than it was, still managed to elect first a Bill Clinton and then a Barack Obama. Victory in a major war is no protection against ‘Glubb’s law of decadence and decay.’ The same would (probably) have happened to a victorious Germany, Wilhemine or Hitlerite. And we would be maybe in the same place as we are now, impossible to say.

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

America destroyed itself in WW2 because it affirmed and adopted self destructive moral premises and empowered a hostile elite with an ethnic animus against the historic majority population. It wasn’t obvious to me when I was a kid, but nowadays when you watch a show about WW2 a direct line is drawn between “the holocaust” and the need for diversity in America. Once people buy into this moral paradigm they lose the ability to defend themselves against immigration. Our triumphalism and our physical victory over Germany left us blind to an ongoing attack on our culture, which ultimately had worse… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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My father and uncles served in World War II and I grew up watching War movies and tv shows. I knew about Ann Frank, but the Holocaust was simply one part of the War. In 1978, there was a tv miniseries entitled “Holocaust” and, since then, WWII was simply one part of the Holocaust era. Supposedly, the Holocaust is what happens when an innocent certified victim group is “hated” by the host population.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

Crud Bonemeal & Ris_Eruwaehdiel I agree w most of what you say. The holocaust was nasty business but it is being exploited and it wasnt exactly the only nasty thing that happened. Now, about whether this is being done to us or not, well in a way I guess it is. But I found the Glubb essay so fascinating exactly b/c he documents how the same patterns happen over and over again. After prolonged triumph and affluence, decadence, loose morals, equality ideology between sexes and ethnicities and then influx of foreigners, happened again and again and again to empires, from… Read more »

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“…still managed to elect first a Bill Clinton and then a Barack Obama.”

Clutching at straws much?

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

No, clutching at straws would be betting on you guys, and your pet grieves, to save the world. That’s desperation lol

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We fought the wrong wrong mass-murdering despot in WWII.

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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Ris_Eruwaehdiel

Gen. Patton supposedly said that we defeated the wrong enemy. Patton was critical of the Jews.

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And he paid the price.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

The Kaiser’s Germany would eventually have become something else. The question is what. You too should read Glubb. http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

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Epa; So also said the US Progs of 120 years ago. Woodrow Wilson idolized the Prussian institutions. Make of that what you will. My take is that The Second Reich is fast becoming a White Wakanda. That is, a phantasy land where things are perfect for ‘our people’. My evidence that the Kaiserreich wasn’t quite the paradise we’d like to imagine is the large numbers of Germans who left for the Americas, North & South, at that same time. I speculate that it’s similar to South-Wins-the-Civil-War nostalgia. it’s pretty easy to see yourself as a member of both or either… Read more »

Exile
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Pure Second Founding fantasy fuel. “These united States” became “the United States” because the North forced the issue. Read J.Q. Adams’ abolitionist phillipics on pogromming the South from the 1820’s during the debates over Texas statehood. He wasn’t concerned with any “union,” he was concerned with imposing his messianic vision of moral good on the South and lining the pockets of his mercantile constituents. His voice is that of the Yankee from pre-Colonial times to the 1860’s. Westerners and Southerners who were either sympathetic or indifferent to slavery and the vast majority of the entire “union” who were totally racist… Read more »

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Take it from this Yankee, _YES, the South should have been let go rather than have the USA transform into an empire run by emotionally incontinent puritans_. Both halves had resources sufficient to be successes in the following century and beyond as large mercantile and agrarian states. For the United States to be a republic and not an empire, the threat of secession and the balance of power necessarily had to be in the hands of the discrete states. The Civil War destroyed that. If letting the South run off means that America would not play the role of superpower,… Read more »

Lineman
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@rooster
Amen Brother…🙌

Melon13
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The answer to your question about Lincoln is very simple. Lincoln eliminated exit doors for us and now we are trapped in the fire.
The south being let go in 1861 would give us a place to go in 2019.
Now we are stuck with Canada or Mexico neither choice is appealing.

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I take it you have ruled out Andorra.

titan28
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titan28

Solid well-thought out rejoinder.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

Thanks. It would seem not everyone agrees w that haha

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Bill Clinton may prove to be the last of the ruthless politicos scaling the corrupt slopes of political power for purely selfish purposes. He and Lyndon Johnson were two of the very best examples of sociopathic leadership. It might be helpful to see FDR as the first of our Julio-Claudian Dynasty and Obama as the last of the line. It does feel like something has changed now that the battle lines have been openly drawn between the public and the media masters.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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That’s true. Battle lines are being drawn. That’s actually good.
Time to have the struggle in the open and fight rather than continue to be betrayed and undermined and grumble about it.

Cheer up: AoCortes is like her namesake Hernan only in this; she has burnt their boats.*.

*which actually he didn’t do.

A.B Prosper
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LBJ didn’t serve as President after he finished Kennedy’s and would not accept the nomination since being president wasn’t something he chose , well unless he was in on the JFK thing which I doubt

That’s more principled than most I’d say.

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LBJ finished Kennedy’s term then ran on his own against Barry Goldwater in ’64. He was president for over five years.

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

Apologies. You were correct on that. Rookie mistake. Still he kept to the spirit of the law by refusing the nod. Maybe this was for selfish reasons but it ain’t nothing. Regardless the Silents and the generations before them Interbellum and Greatest generally thought the New Deal and Great Society were good things and for many they were The cause of our misery is three fold, Frankfurt School, 1965 Immigration Reform and Ronald Reagan , or easy divorce if you prefer Unbinding this won’t be easy and alas I’m all out of fuel for the Delorean but it can be… Read more »

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A B

LBJ didn’t run in ‘68 because he knew he wouldn’t have been elected. Johnson stole the ‘48 senate election. “The law” wasn’t terribly important to him.

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

I don’t know. The Dems thought otherwise since LBJ was pressured into taking the nomination and he had to refuse rather vocally

I think LBJ was far from Mr. Ethics even by our nations loose standards though.

Firewire7
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This essay explains a lot. Now we wait to see how accurate it is.

We can mull over plans for what to do while things develop.

Wolf Barney
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In the 90s there used to be a monthly (or biweekly?) newspaper I subscribed to called “Middle American News.” It featured columnists such as Sam Francis and Joe Sobran, and as the title suggests, considered the political, cultural and corporate elite the enemy of the American people. They would regularly go into detail how our politicians voted on various bills, gave out report cards, etc. They saw the role of the press as a watchdog, constantly nipping at the heels of Congress.

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Z, to make the Sulla/Lincoln parallel work, Lincoln would have had to be a member of the old Federalist aristocracy greatly attached to tradition and strict constitutionalism. Ol’ Abe was anything but that. Sulla was a conservative reactionary born of an old Roman aristocratic family. Had John C. Calhoun been elected president in the 1840s and seized power in order to destroy the New England merchant class, your parallel would be almost perfect. (Sadly, that did not happen.)

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Or not… There’s a lot of evidence and people that they won’t be the elite much longer. I hate to be the ray of sunshine in the cloud of Doom, DOOM.. but this elite is bankrupt and dying. For them to be despots requires 2 things that are lacking: 1. They’d have to be strong enough to be successful tyrants. They’re not. 2. They’d have to have an utterly supine population and they don’t. Look at yourselves for instance. You’re not supine. Just sullen that you have to struggle to get and keep anything in life rather than just go… Read more »

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

“muh bootstraps”

-Breitbart Commenter, born 1951, with a closet full of guns he’ll never fire in anger and 2-3 mixed race grandchildren

Vegetius
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Vegetius

“muh bootstraps”

Lemonade just shot out my nose.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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No dear. I am a real war vet and have quite fired the gun.

Mind you I wasn’t angry. Just aiming.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

Mind you I wasn’t angry. Just aiming.

Oh I like that like. vxxc, I first thought you were a girl lol I see how wrong I was haha. Thumps up to you haha

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Like I said: sulky teenager.
Now man up, there’s work to do.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

I’ve made real, life-altering sacrifices on behalf of the 14 Words. Hope you’re proud of yourself, killing brown people for Shlomo’s approval. Enjoy your 2 for 1 at Golden Corral.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Yes. And I won’t mock your sacrifices if you don’t mock mine.
Now since you’ve already sacrificed get ready for more work.

Thats always the reward for work.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

I think you re right. So how the heck do we upend the current order?

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Call the bluff.
That upends the order.
There are no men on their walls.

Lineman
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Lineman

Ahh beg to differ there is men on their wall it’s called the police state and until we have enough organized men to counter that threat I wouldn’t be calling their bluff because they are holding a pat hand…Also on your little rant above I guarantee that I’m doing more at the moment than you are so I could turn that around and aim it right back at you…

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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I’m not ranting, I was pointing out there’s work to do besides sulking and DOOM. I got more sulks.
Some snark.
But that means the point went home- so productivity.

But listen – NP. Don’t do anything.
Its a free country. Feel and feels some more there’s no hope and no point unless _\_____\\____ a long list of conditions are met first.

And remember the Meme.

Lineman
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Lineman

So when do you want to meet???

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Lol. When its time.

I’m overseas now in any case.

Great post here though.
3 workers stepped out.
You, me, MWV.

Thats astounding productivity for the RW.

Good job gents.

Monsieur le Baron
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Elite families rule forever, they just change hats. Some hats are more tyrannical than others.

It’s a living.

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

They rule because they control the institutions. So many institutions have have been deliberately coopted by the very people who wished to destroy them (the Long March.) And now that the institutions have been destroyed they’ll be going after the remnant.

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Instead of China becoming more like the West, it’s clear that the West is becoming more like China with regards to governance. Can the elite (both in China and the West) regain complete control of the narrative without virtually abolishing the internet? I don’t know — could go either way. In some sense, we still have a much bigger voice than we’ve had in the past, and the elite is mortified. It’s hilarious how newspaper comment sections have vanished because one of us destroys the narrative with one comment. If the narrative is wrong…will the ruling class be able to… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

They dont want to abolish the internet, it’s the ultimate circus. They just want to control and monitor it.

Rogeru
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Rogeru

I once said that if the internet had existed in 1776 we’d still be British.

Marko
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I’m not so sure about that. In China, it’s top-down, authoritarian, and fueled by bribery. It will probably always be. In the West, though we have elements of that, we are not authoritarian, and corruption is not part and parcel of governing. Legitimacy still comes from the people, even though (as we know) democracy can be bent to elites’ will or even disregarded on occasion. And I would never say that the US is as censorious as China (or the USSR was). Not true. The only thing that the Western elites come down hard on is when someone blatantly criticizes… Read more »

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The large scale migration of southern races into the European north adds to this transition of elites an enormous volatility. One they can probably not control. We have an endless abundance of bread and circuses and yet tensions are beginning to bubble to the surface. 60 million people ignored the 24/7 elite campaign against Trump and voted for him anyway. That means something, his failure since then aside. We are in uncharted territory: a hostile elite, the invasion of a brutal barbaric mob and access to instantaneous forms of information gathering and communication. Volatility will only increase.

Wolf Barney
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The emerging volatility on the left can be seen in the Squad, especially Omar and Tlaib. Calling Pelosi racist and pushing back against AIPAC, signals coming tension and stress. There will be more like them because of demographics. On the right, the 60 million voters who thought they were getting a more radical Trump than what he is, are still out there, even though rightwing organizations (CPAC, Turning Point etc.) and pundits are doing their best to keep them corralled into color blind conservatism. How long can that dam hold? It’s currently springing leaks.

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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One of the characteristics of revolutionary movements is that there are different factions that will join forces to seize power, but then turn on each other after they do. Think of the aftermath of the French Revolution, the Nazis, the Soviets and, most recently, the Iranian theocrats. Even early Christianity in the Roman Empire was a revolutionary movement which, after they gained power in the 4th Century, turned on each other. The triumphant Athanasians persecuted not only non-Christians but members of dissident sects. The Democratic Party are “warring tribes in the common pursuit of plunder” and motivated by anti-White animus.… Read more »

Mark Taylor
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Mark Taylor

Yes but it’s important to remember they turned on each other after winning power. When whites are defeated they will fight, but before that point they’ll remain allies.

Lineman
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Lineman

@Mark
Exactly which should be our motivation to not let them win but I’m beginning think that maybe we are just going for the consolation prize of knowing they won’t enjoy winning for very long…Makes my heart hurt to think that but everyone seems like they are still to comfortable…We could be doing so much right now if we had a Community going…

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Yeah, it’s unclear how much control they have. After all Trump did win, and Brexit did pass, despite unified opposition from the elite. Another thing I wonder about is how long will the elite remain unified — you’d think there’d be a few with grandkids, who look around Paris, and think, “my god, what have we done?’

Europe had some violence of its own last week — some guy was literally hacked to pieces in the streets of Stuttgart by an immigrant and it was caught on video. The situation is volatile indeed.

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Lincoln served a few terms in the state legislature, when it was a part-time job, then one term in the Congress (1847–49), as a member of a party that disappeared five years later. (He did campaign for the Senate in 1858. And lost.) Then he became a corporate lawyer. Hardly a master political operative.

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Fun post! Here’s the other quote from De Maistre on that link

“All grandeur, all power, all subordination to authority rests on the executioner: he is the horror and the bond of human association. Remove this incomprehensible agent from the world and at that very moment order gives way to chaos, thrones topple and society disappears.”

Jack Boniface
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Jack Boniface

“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” Mencken

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Hell you say!

Lineman
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Lineman

And the rest of us who just wanted to be left alone get drug along for the ride which is why I’ve said for a long time rugged individualism won’t win in a war against a collective evil…Join or Die as AB says…

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Hear Hear

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Z Man said: ” Fear will be ruthlessly and creatively inculcated by a ruling elite that is wholly disconnected from the people over whom it rules. This stage of America will be the age of technological despotism.” Nicolás Gómez Dávila said: ” Between the dictatorship of technology and the technology of dictatorship, man no longer finds a crack through which he can slip away.” He also said: ” To hope that the growing vulnerability of a world increasingly integrated by technology will not demand a total despotism is mere foolishness.” Here’s an artical on a website called “Return of the… Read more »

TomA
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TomA

Authoritarianism by oligarchs arises when the majority of the population is seduced into dependence, conformity, and hivemindedness by welfare addiction and memetic infection/indoctrination. This is a win-win for the elites. They prosper with unfettered control and the rabble no longer posses either the inclination or means to revolt. Alas, the best laid plans of mice and men . . . sometimes things go awry. The Yellow Vests in France and the citizens of Hong Kong beg to differ.

Ursula
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Ursula

(Yellow Vests are an organic movement. Hong Kong protests are US/UK backed. This is confirmed by mainstream media’s ignoring the Yellow Vests while reporting on the valiant protesters in Hong Kong.)

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Ursula said: “(Yellow Vests are an organic movement. Hong Kong protests are US/UK backed. This is confirmed by mainstream media’s ignoring the Yellow Vests while reporting on the valiant protesters in Hong Kong.)” Indeed. Once you start noticing all of those little procedures and devices that the machine uses to massage reality you can’t unsee it.

TomA
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TomA

The genesis of the Yellow Vest Movement was a planned exorbitant increase in the price of diesel fuel. The citizens of Hong Kong are resisting an overt attempt by China to end their independence via annexation. Fuel is freedom in France and freedom is freedom in Hong Kong. We are about to lose a Second Amendment freedom here in the US.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Yes and Open Borders and Open genocidal hate clear the way.
Hell the Left offers no chance of survival but WN.

JZs
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JZs

We literally live in a virtual panopticon. Even our thoughts can be seen or so we think..Behavior control that a utopian, technophile, control freak, prison warden gets an endless erection over.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

Check. And if the spear tip of the rebellion against that are a bunch of ppl who think Gettysburg, or maybe Stalingrad, went the wrong way, we re gonna lose, big time.

Mac
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Mac

“When the people fear the government, you have tyranny. When the government fears the people, you have liberty.” Or something to that effect.

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I just want to be free. Free to ride my machine and not be hassled by the man.

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Official Bologna Tester

JMDGT said: ” I just want to be free. Free to ride my machine and not be hassled by the man.” I hear Alaska’s big as the moon. And they only have like six hundred thousand full time residents up there. Give a shot. 😁

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

We’ll see who has the power when this asset bubble implodes. A lot of funny money ended up in Silicon Valley. Most of these companies aren’t worth a fraction of current valuations. The future will be a government that has to live within its means. That means, taxation roughly equalling outlays. If that happens, governments will have to contract, minimally by 50%. This will happen after the next 2008 style recession, after the deficit hits 3-4 trillion+ per year, after the bond market adjusts to this reality, and after a period of high inflation. Tax receipts roughly top out at… Read more »

TomA
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TomA

Global Warming/Climate Change was always a scam to enact a broad energy tax with which to continue to grow government. Ditto with the Universal Healthcare tax. Absent a revolution, the federal government will never allow itself to shrink in real terms. My guess is that they will confiscate all 401k retirement funds and replace them with SS-type IOUs. Eventually the Ponzi Scheme collapses, but when?

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

Even if they did that (they did it in Argentina six or seven years ago) those are one-offs. You can’t re-raid a 401k. The future looks very much like Argentina. A government that’s expansive on paper, but doesn’t have the firepower to really monitor the people. So in some ways you have more personal freedom in that outcome. Your currency is trash, services are bad, streets are potholed, but at least you can do a line of blow and get a call girl without much muss. It’s really TODAY that we have this Orwellian nonsense with neo-Victorian woke people finger… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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Ris_Eruwaehdiel

An economic collapse or military defeat in a major war might trigger a collapse of the government. The Pentagon projects that we would lose a war with Russia or China.

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

We haven’t “won” a war in over 70 years. And what kind of victory was letting the Soviets get half of Europe anyway? We’re really good at buying military equipment, and feeding troops, and all the things at the periphery of war, but we’re terrible at war itself, because we fall on our fainting couches when the first five year old dies, or the first hospital is inadvertently bombed. We love war as a concept, but once the real business gets started forget about it. That’s why I hated John McCain so much. The first to get us into any… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

Strictly speaking, we haven’t been to war since 1945. None of the subsequent military actions involved a formal declaration of war. People on all sides still died.

FDR was pro-Soviet and thought that “colonialism” was the big threat in post-war society.

CAPT S
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CAPT S

I tend to think we get the political candidates that reflect the elite, and from that shallow pool the citizenry gets to vote for Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum. In another sense we actually do get the government we deserve – not because of the election process – but because of our reluctance (and now 160 year tradition) to make wretched use of the 2nd Amendment in constraining government. The purpose of the 2nd Amendment wasn’t for hunt clubs or sport, but for armed leverage against tyranny. Thus Jefferson’s now archaic belief that occasional revolution was a necessary thing for… Read more »

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

Well, they buy them. What do you think most of our elected officials would be doing if not for government? Most of them are sub-mediocrities like Marco Rubio. Or Ed Markey. None of them have ever had a real, value producing, job. They feed their constituents slop while planning for their big bucks “K-Street” career shilling for the MIC and endless war.

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A B

“The purpose of the 2nd Amendment wasn’t for hunt clubs or sport, but for armed leverage against tyranny.”

I just laugh at the yo-yos who talk about how the founders “right to keep and bear arms” meant only muskets. They just finished up an armed revolution when they wrote it, you morons, what the f*** do you think they meant???

Monty James
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“In the technological age, fear of the oligarchs will be the supreme public virtue. Fear will be ruthlessly and creatively inculcated by a ruling elite that is wholly disconnected from the people over whom it rules.” Funny you should say that. I live in a state with two Democratic senators, and my member of Congress is also a Democrat. I’m pondering if it would do me any good to be civically engaged, and write or call any of them and urge them to vote against any ‘Red Flag’ law, which is barreling down the tracks at us. All I can… Read more »

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Monty James said: ” “In the technological age, fear of the oligarchs will be the supreme public virtue.” Actualy, the future is already here. Go on Youtube, and you’ll see that the highest honor and respect that a person can archive goes to the person who can shove the largest number of twinkies in their mouth all at once. At last, both the heights and depths of Universal Suffrage have been realized.

Member

Gee, Wally, that’s a really cheerful message! I feel better already.

– the Beaver

TomA
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TomA

LOL. Thanks, this reference brought back many fond memories, including the other definition of “beaver” from the Junior HS days.

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“Ward, I’m worried about the Beaver.” – June Cleaver, handing Ward his evening cocktail.

Exile
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Exile

The Elite of Fear are animated by both spite for and fear of the White lower classes they terrorize. The GoodWhites who are given dispensation to belong are climbers like Kevin Williamson and David French who are willing to despise and shame their own people and often humble roots in return for atta-boys from the (((upper echelon))). They also either share or come to adopt the worrier-warrior mindset of the (((thought leaders))) – when they’re not despising us, they fear the prospect of what we can accompish when we awaken in numbers. David French seems to be genuinely, womanishly fearful… Read more »

William Williams
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William Williams

>>> climbers like Kevin Williamson and David French who are willing to despise and shame their own people and often humble roots in return for atta-boys from the (((upper echelon))).

Still, it’s quite a thrill, for a bright young man to get a job based in New York City, kissing the ass of Bill Buckley’s ghost.

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

In short, Pol Pot had a point.

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The Constitution was written by and for a British, English people. Other peoples did not have the same traditions and dispositions as the English settlers. Allowing foreigners to take control of such vital institutions as schooling, news media and entertainment media made the current system all but inevitable. It is no surprise that “racism” has become the single most evil thing in an multi-ethnic empire like America. Foreigners almost immediately began campaigns to make racism the worst thing ever upon their arrival. The prevalence of foreigners in our prestigious (and common) educational institutions was bound to have this outcome. The… Read more »

StopReadingThat
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StopReadingThat

The ruling class today, much like the voting public, wants to be famous. Even billionaires, with the current president as an obvious example, leverage their money to achieve fame. We were raised by screens, and the screens told us that we didn’t exist unless people on the screen were talking about us.

It’s almost poetic that a Boomer like Pelosi is now being buried in Congress by a bunch of upstart media whores. Her narcissistic generation helped to create this insanity and now it’s overtaking them.

King Tut
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King Tut

While I maintain a deep degree of skepticism with regard to surveys and opinion polls, the one below caused me to sit up just a little. https://summit.news/2019/08/05/poll-89-per-cent-of-uk-gen-zers-say-their-lives-are-meaningless/ If it only even partially true, then the future looks a little clearer, at least to me. Yes, our overlords have won. They control every lever of power and every institution and they will brook neither opposition nor dissent. But theirs is not a strong rule, it is a fragile one. They will remain in control only for as long as they have the money to pay the militarised praetorians who protect them… Read more »

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

This subject deserves a Z-screed by itself. This is the fruit of the twin forces of multiculturalism and mass immigration. Go ahead: Look at home prices and rents where the jobs are. And please, don’t tell me to move away like any of the current or former NRO cucks.

PawPaw
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PawPaw

King Tut;
If anyone can endure, it will be the Englishman. Recall the Londoners during the Blitz. They would hold Shakespearean plays in the subway tunnels while the bombs fell overhead.

Anonymous Reactionary
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Anonymous Reactionary

Monarchs are ordinary people who happened to be born in their place. Politicians are power hungry reptiles. There is nothing democratic about republicanism. It is oligarchy and kleptocracy combined.

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

We haven’t been a Republic since 1900. Even then it was limping along.

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I disagree. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. People understood hereditary greatness long before we knew of the genes. Not only did they posses the best genes, but they were raised to be elite. If we had held onto that system, there would be no foreign elites.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Good old Taleb. Speaking of Tech Despots. 1 tweet and blocked.

“Mr. Taleb occupies the most intellectually and morally defensible ground since the Marines occupied Beirut airport in 1982.
America being Lebanon say 1975.
He’s missing the point.
@Quillette does not.
They have a side-even Socrates picked Athens.”.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Did I find this here? An alternate view of Lincoln and the Industrial Revolution.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/07/27/you-know-who-was-into-karl-marx-no-not-aoc-abraham-lincoln

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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For the love of God- cheer up.
Gun control is ALWAYS good news for the Right.

“But what could get the normies off the couch?!?”

Gun control.

There are 3 certain ways to commit the American people to War.
1. Attack the Homeland.
2. Interfere with Freedom of the Seas.
3. Attempt to forcibly disarm (Revolution, Texan Independence).

Number 2 requires government to tell the Navy to shoot through.

Numbers 1&3 can’t be stopped, only channeled.

Prussian
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Prussian

“In the technological age, fear of the oligarchs will be the supreme public virtue.” Here’s my thinking lately. The Last Man that liberalism (1776, 1789, and onward to today) has ultimately reared requires little in the way of threat and fear to be brought into line. Idealism, honor, love of heroism, etc., these concepts have no real meaning or draw for him. If the elite continue providing him with his basic necessities, Taco Bell, Labron James, alcohol, and so on, he will view the elite as basically legitimate. He will furthermore be anxious to accept some or all of the… Read more »

Prussian
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Prussian

I recently came across something that I think is relevant to all this. Here is the definition of the movement of German Nihilists (the German Conservative Revolution intellectual movement) by Leo Strauss: “That moral meaning of modem civilisation to which the German nihilists object, is expressed in formulations such as these: to relieve man’s estate; or: to safeguard the rights of man; or: the greatest possible happiness of the greatest possible number. What is the motive underlying the protest against modem civilisation, against the spirit of the West*, and in particular of the Anglo-Saxon* West? “The answer must be: it… Read more »

Anon
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Anon

Argument from the morality of strenuousness is moot anyway, because open society is a contradiction in terms. If anyone can join, then membership has no value, and society ceases to be a relevant subset of humanity for purposes of civic engagement and public policy. So-called “open society” advocates want mankind as a whole to become the legitimate locus of government; in this respect they should be more properly referred to as global society advocates, since the Earth is a closed system. Global society, in turn, is untenable because it disregards HBD and the fact that consanguinity is a requisite for… Read more »

Prussian
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His argument certainly rings true for me personally, and seems to me true also for most of the German Con. Rev., to whom I have felt drawn like a magnet for quite some time. In his early years, he was a serious Nietzschean and German Con. Rev. follower himself, and was even in Germany during the 1920’s, which would give him great insight into this area. He was also quite clearly brilliant. I wouldn’t brush him aside so easily. He may have been Jewish, but even Greg Johnson clearly thinks highly of him. There is little doubt this accused “Nazi… Read more »

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LOL. In making my post above, I did a quick web search to provide an example of Greg Johnson writing positively of Strauss, and it brought me to the linked essay. I had not yet read it (I wasn’t aware of it, and it is excellent). The second part of the essay directly discusses Strauss’ “German Nihilism” essay/speech I originally pointed to. It turns out the argument I found so appealing and true above is derived from Nietzsche’s ‘Untimely Meditations’. Yet again, I read something I like, and I find the author was heavily influenced by, or derived the argument… Read more »

JR Wirth
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I can’t wait for the new, highly subjective “red flag laws” that Republicans will propose in Congress. “You can have a gun, unless you hurt a woke person’s feelings.” They file a police report and it’ll cost you $60,000 in litigation to get them back. Useless, useless people. Of course this has to be a Federal issue, as usual. If only there was this urgency in dealing with illegal alien rapists and murderers. You know it’s bad when Lindsey Graham is helping to write this, as he sits with blinds shut in a teddy and silk stockings like J. Edgar… Read more »

george
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george

This weekend the doomsday clock certainly moved up a couple of minutes.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

I expect that my woke sister will cancel the gun rights of my brother and me because we are “mean.”

William Williams
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William Williams

>>>You can have a gun, unless you hurt a woke person’s feelings.

It’s the seriousness of the charges that counts, not the availability of “evidence”.

Member

This is where Spandrell’s concept of BioLeninism comes to play. Like Lenin did in the ussr the American elite is creating a new loyal class of voter out of the various groups who can’t compete in a meritocracy: single women, trannies, low IQ blacks, immigrants, general mental defectives. These people are very loyal because they know without the elite’s patronage they are nothing. The competent people are seen as a threat because they don’t need the elite and will be marginalized and silenced

george
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george

Sort of like Kulaks.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

I’m deleting my comment because I overreacted a bit.

Prussian
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Prussian

That was an interesting essay. But it seems to me that a bigger problem is that whites are either heavily loyal as well, or heavily apathetic, or somewhere in between. Understanding better why this is I believe to be vital to finding any possible way out of this. Whites weren’t always this way. The question is why they changed, what caused it. Another question would be, why are Russians and East Europeans seemingly the least affected by this? Why, as I understand it, is the main resistance to immigration in Germany emanating from former East Germany? “Chemnitz lies in the… Read more »

Lineman
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Lineman

Yes I would have to agree that spiritually we have gone to shit as a nation…

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

This is an excerpt from an artical intitled “On the Despotism of Democracy.” It’s on the “European New Right.” website “Arktos” “The destruction that this unbridled technological development could bring need not be physical. The Bomb is not the only threat that technology has birthed. Perhaps it is no longer even the greatest. But if this is so, and if what I have said so far is correct, then technology is the mightiest weapon that has ever been offered to the hands of humanity’s greatest enemy – an enemy which does not, alas, become the less terrible for being so… Read more »

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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The old Alt-Right is being obsolesced. New alt-right vs Paleo-Alt-Right; The new alt right are flat out white leftists who act and don’t talk. Predictably events are passing from talk to action. This is the S.A / Brownshirts* phase. Paleo-Alt-Right talked, tweeted, memed. This did advance the goal and may continue to however the banner is passing from talk to action. This leaves the Paleo-Alt-Right and Paleo-Reaction behind- and rapidly in the position of National Review denouncing and mocking those to the Right of them. They may mock, perhaps that’s all they can do. But those events however ugly and… Read more »

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What would my favorite Uncle counsel? He’s more trustworthy than anyone on this site.

Prussian
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Prussian

We are too utterly marginalized and unsupported by the masses. This is precisely the time to talk, in sophisticated terms, and to form support networks. “Action” just makes matters worse, just hurts our long-run prospects, just brings us bad publicity making the public less receptive to us, and more censorship stopping us from spreading ideas. This is the time to recruit a vanguard/proto-elite, who must be intelligent (drawn in by intelligent, sophisticated theoretical arguments) to be effective. Behind the French Revolutionaries lay Enlightenment philosophy, behind the second 1917 revolution lay Marxist philosophy, behind 1933 lay the German Conservative Revolution*, and… Read more »

Lineman
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Prussian I agree which is why I’m trying to build Community where I am at…The problem is people like to talk about doing that but when it comes down to it they just aren’t ready to do it… It’s disappointing to say the least and kind of bums me out…

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Great productivity gains here Z.

We have at least 3 self-identified workers. Worker defined as showed up for work.

Lineman
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My humble vxxc self. Yes, I am.

That’s an astounding ratio, well done.

“But we hate you.”

Irrelevant, we’re men. We don’t have to like each other just show up for work.

Good job gents.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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More good news: Frontpage wants to defect.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/274538/51-mass-shooters-2019-were-black-only-29-were-daniel-greenfield

My counsel: Let (((Them)).

Defection is how they survive.
Let them, don’t ever trust them, no sharing of power.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Gun control; we know why the GOP sells out.

Trump? Well Trump wants re-election. But overall Trump wants Brumaire. Let them surrender, no power, retired.

That’s what Napoleon, Reagan did.
I don’t know if this is possible, but I am sure that is Trump’s end state.

My desired end state: WE rule ourselves, the rest quietly step back. We don’t share power and slowly but surely reassume prominence. We don’t degrade or shit on them -that’s gross incompetence. The overseas Empire ends by retrenchment.

We’ll see.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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For those looking for white ethnic communities you don’t have to look far as it’s most of the country.

Perhaps the trick is to defend where they live quietly with cunning, not open challenges easily smashed.

https://demographics.virginia.edu/DotMap/index.html