Trust Nothing

The official story on the seditious plot to overturn the 2016 election is that nothing happened and citizens should return to the economic duties. A few over-enthusiastic agents engaged in nothing more than office gossip. All is well. Like everything that comes from the rulers, this is all nonsense, but this is just how things are with a highly corrupt ruling class. The rulers don’t lie because they are hiding something. They lie because they take pleasure in humiliating the people.

There are plenty of theories about what went on, supported by leaked documents and clever people fitting puzzle pieces together. The website The Last Refuge has done a lot of work aggregating publicly available data. They are a bit conspiratorial and often fill in blanks with speculation, but they have a lot of good stuff. Doug Ross has put together an amazing list of news items related to the plot. Seeing all of the planted news stories in chronological format makes for interesting reading.

The sober minded analysis says that elements in the FBI and the DOJ took it upon themselves to help the Clinton campaign win the 2016 election. Some of them were motivated by greed. Some are obvious fanatics. Others are just mediocrities, who rose well above their abilities and were easy patsies. They planted stories in the press to then use to get FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign. That information was then leaked to the media and to the Clinton campaign through cutouts.

The reckless nature of the operation has been explained as resulting from the belief by the participants that Clinton was a lock to win the election. Clinton would come in and reward these people with good jobs and the whole operation would be locked away in the vaults. When Trump won, the plotters were forced to go into damage control, which is why they cooked up the Russian collusion scheme. The special prosecutor would sequester the details of the plot from public view.

Additionally, the special prosecutor would build and trap to ensnare Trump and his people, which would then be used to impeach him or force him to resign. It’s clear that Senator Mark Warner and Senator Richard Burr were deeply involved in orchestrating this scheme. It’s why they went to war over Trump nominating a loyalist, John Ratcliffe, to the DNI position. Warner and Burr need one of their people in that job, so incriminating information is not declassified by Bill Barr.

That’s the unofficial version of the plot. It’s the sort of narrative that is fun to follow, but not a conspiracy theory that requires great leaps of faith. There’s not much in the way of assumed associations, which is the stock device of conspiracy theory. Person X is around Person Y, so it assumed they are connected. That connection is then used to connect a bunch of unrelated people and events. This narrative lacks that as there is plenty of documentation to tie all of these people together.

The trouble is, the supposed motivation to setting this whole thing off is based on a glaring contradiction. The conspirators supposedly did all of these things, because they just assumed Clinton would win in a landslide. Well, if they really thought that, why bother with the shenanigans? There’s also the fact that most of the people in this caper are incompetent office drones. On the FBI side, the participants are careerist nobodies, who rose up the ranks through rumpswabbery and time serving.

The Watergate break-in has been mythologized by the Left, but the caper itself is probably instructive when analyzing the FBI corruption. The people who actually broke into the Watergate thought they were pulling a campaign caper. The person who organized it, John Dean, appears to have been working a separate operation that he kept from the burglars. That’s the thesis of the book Silent Coup. Dean engineered the break in and cover up for reasons having nothing to do with politics.

Given the presence of oleaginous schemers like Rod Rosenstein in the middle of every aspect of this caper, the comparison to Dean is natural. When you factor in people like Clapper, Brennan and people in Congress, the natural question is what is their interest in this caper? It’s possible that these people are just natural schemers, the sorts that are always attracted to power. Royal courts have been hives of these people since the first human settlements. Maybe these people just like the action.

There being some unknown first mover in all of this would explain a few things. The clowns from the FBI should have been charged by now. The worst they could do is rat on some other flunkies in the political scene. Cutting a deal so they take the pinch like men would be easy. The same would be true of the FISA abuse stuff. There’s no obvious upside to concealing what everyone assumes to be true. This whole thing could have been wrapped up a long time ago, but it still lingers.

The same can be said for the impeachment stuff. The House Democrats are intent on holding impeachment hearings. Politically, they think it is a good idea, despite all the evidence to the contrary. That suggests they know something the rest of us don’t know or they think they do. One reason for the Mueller probe was to build an impeachment trap for Trump that Congress could spring on him. That seems to have failed, but what if there is something else going on here?

Supposedly, the IG will be releasing his reports over the next few months, so we should learn a bit more, even if it just a white wash. Often, what the official story excludes is what matters. Bill Barr has been promising to release documents to clear up the FBI sedition, so maybe that will fill in some blanks. Even so, this is a story that lacks a sensible origin point and believable narrative. There’s something missing. We’ll probably never know the full story, but the current version is surely false.


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Bill Barr comes out of the Bush 1 era, and if he knows and associates with all those people he should be a “NeverTrumper.” Had he been a pot stirrer he wouldn’t have been swiftly confirmed. Who would possibly pick someone from that era? He may as well have made Mitt Romney AG. In reality Trump is a weak President (watch him capitulate on gun control after these back to back incidents). He capitulates on everything. He’s just hot air with capped teeth and clown hair. The bold actions needed to bring this incident to light are the same bold… Read more »

De Beers Diamonds
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De Beers Diamonds

It may be legend, but FDR is alleged to have once told activists “You’ve convinced me, now go put pressure on me”

The Right hasn’t managed to do that. Valuable political capital was wasted on trivialities, rather than on the prime directive of removing as many illegals from this country. Imagine if every employer known to hire illegals was getting picketed at least once a month.

King Tut
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King Tut

Yes, but Trump got a black rapper released from jail in Sweden. Surely, every patriotic American heart must swell with pride!

De Beers Diamonds
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De Beers Diamonds

While people here are understandably angry at pandering to blacks, we’ve been agitating them for two years with no comparable gains that we enjoyed as backlash to BLM. White moderates are quite gullible about black concerns, indeed the stronger anti-immigration argument focus on displacing poor workers.

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

Discouraging fact about Barr, apparently he defended Lon Horiuchi pro-bono.

Rogeru
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Rogeru

“Maybe these people just like the action.”

I think this is probably correct for many, its the ultimate competition.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Z Man said: “There’s something missing. We’ll probably never know the full story, but the current version is surely false.” There’s a lot missing. The “Five Eyes” international security group were somehow involved. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes Along with a guy named Joseph Mifsud. Here’s a artical from a site called ” Patriot Crier” intitled: “Devin Nunes Slams Mueller Over Knowingly Lying About “Russian Asset” Joseph Mifsud.” http://patriotcrier.com/devin-nunes-slams-mueller-knowingly-lying-russian-asset-joseph-mifsud/ The list of people involved in this crap could run too a hundred or more. Who knows. But as I’ve said before. Nobody of any significance will ever have to face the music.

JZs
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JZs

The reason no one will face the music is because the music composers are the very people who are the actual perpetrators of the so called coup/coverup and they subsequently have all the power to judge in the end also. Leftist incest runs deep in the bowels of the bureaucracy. It’s intractable.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

JZs said: ” Leftist incest runs deep in the bowels of the bureaucracy.” OMG. I’ll never be able to get that image out of my head. 😨🤢

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Exactly why I keep saying: Remove the bureaucracy. There seems to be vein of “conservatism” that is of the same mindset as the dipshit wing of the lefties. They think the power of government can somehow be harnessed for “good”. Whatever the hell that is. I’ve even gotten into arguments with lefties who spoke the words : “things will be better if we just elect smarter and better people”. These people are morons. They’re the same type of person who keeps bringing their car back to the gypsy mechanic and can’t figure out why they always end up with a… Read more »

c matt
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c matt

Problem is, it’s not just an issue of “the government will do it” thinking. True, the government won’t fix it, but worse, it will come down on you like a ton of bricks if you try to fix it without their blessing (which you will never get).

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That was a great post. I feel like people are constantly answering questions whether they know the answers or not. No one can stand to sit and ruminate on a question anymore and so whenever they encounter one they just make stuff up and then, seemingly satisfied with whatever they’d made up, they create a ‘new truth’ that becomes one more building block in this ramshackle house of ideas they’ve created. It’s gotten so bad that whenever I hear someone say ‘I don’t know’ I really take notice of that person. And I really feel bad for the people that… Read more »

JZs
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JZs

My predictions:

Barr and the IG report will give us nothing meaningful. Q will once and for all be discredited. Impeachment won’t happen. Trump will lose in 2020. Ravens win Super Bowl in 2021

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Agree mostly, but instead I think Trump wins, enjoys another four years of accomplishing nothing, then Queen Kamala and AOC usher in the era of Brown Jacobinism come January 2025.

george
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george

That is unfortunately the best case scenario MemeWarVet.

JZs
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JZs

Trump to address nation on Monday. Trump says we may need some form of gun control. If he goes there my 2020 presidential prediction will be solid as granite.

george
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george

Ivanka is crying while we speak.

PapayaSF
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PapayaSF

Regarding what seems to be missing, here’s the theory I currently like. Obama’s illegal spying didn’t start with Trump. It goes back to at least 2012. (Remember Maxine Waters bragging about Obama’s database in 2013?) If they could find something on Trump, they could use it to justify the pre-existing surveillance. “We did have secret surveillance programs to catch terrorists, and just it happened to catch a Republican! All is well, nothing to see here!” There’s another plot twist that would be hilarious if true: that Trump is a long-time FBI informant. That’s why he has had numerous associations with… Read more »

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

It probably goes back to the Patriot Act. And FWIW, anyone taking note of the situation on our borders must by now admit that the ruling classes don’t give a shit about security, sovereignty or Americans’ quality of life.

Normie
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Could have sworn you wrote this months ago and nothing happened… you were a big Q fan correct? Do you agree with Z that he’s a gag to fool stupid people? I sure do.

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

I don’t blame people for wanting to believe. In fact I think that desire has a certain nobility to it. But once Micro came clean after the rival “Q’s” and the other guy took over and monetized the grift, it should be destroyed. The Q crowd should be encouraged to hold Trump to his promises right now.

PapayaSF
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PapayaSF

I have been saying this for a while. I’m not a Q fan, which looks like a LARP to me. I’m a Scott Adams/Brian Cates/REX fan. I agree with them that Trump is a Sun Tzu fan playing a long game. I think it will become clear by 11/2020.

Normie
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Hahahahah!

And when it doesnt? Onto the next conspiracy.

PapayaSF
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PapayaSF

If I am wrong about this I’ll admit it. I am actually not a conspiracy theory type, though I find them interesting and amusing. I know this looks absurd to most people, but based on my understanding of Trump, it all makes sense.

c matt
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c matt

Conspiracy: Two or more persons agreeing to perform an illegal or wrongful act, or a legal act by illegal or wrongful means.

I don’t know where this simple legal definition got associated with craziness. Any number of things our government does satisfies that definition a thousand times a day.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Playing the long game on whose behalf?

PapayaSF
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PapayaSF

Trump’s in this for his ego. Personal glory. He wants to win, be seen as a great patriot and a winner, and humiliate his enemies. It’s idiotic to think he’s in this for more money, or that he’d conspire with Putin (and open himself to blackmail). He’s been thinking about being President for decades. The guy is practiced at huge real estate deals that require long-term planning, misdirection, and secrecy. It should be obvious that he’s doing that now. But these things take time. Federal prosecutions take years to prepare.

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Why not go back to 1996 iirc (and I do) to the 700 or so FBI files that mysteriously appeared in the Clinton White-house: A clear message from Clinton that he had the dirt on the people who mattered, just on the run up to an election, too……

PapayaSF
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PapayaSF

And remember that Obama won his Senate seat by digging up the sealed divorce records of his opponent.

Saml Adams
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Saml Adams

The Clintonistas and the Obama-ites are mortal enemies. Saw much of this as a virtue signaling enterprise to show the incoming Hillary administration that all these bureaucratic mediocrities were loyal to her—particularly after her attempt to run the clock on the email problem blew up in her face. Less grand conspiracy and more the “amoeba swim-toward-the-light” reflex of career senior executive service types and their coattail grippers. Biggest mistake? In warfare—you pick an axis of advance with an eye towards whether or not it also provides good ground to fight a tactical retreat—if necessary. Comey & company didn’t do that.… Read more »

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“The conspirators supposedly did all of these things, because they just assumed Clinton would win in a landslide. Well, if they really thought that, why bother with the shenanigans?” That’s an important point that is so often ignored. Joe DiGenova, who appears to have pieces of real information, but mixed in with his own speculation claims that the real scandal is that the FISA abuses go back to 2012. I believe this, and Z during one of his podcasts called the FBI the “KGB for the DNC”. I think that’s spot-on, and it started in 2012 while Eric Holder was… Read more »

maxsnafu
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maxsnafu

Why do you question Roberts’ flip on Obamacare? The Republican track record on picking conservative Supreme Court justices is, at BEST, mixed.
See: Earl Warren; William Brennan; Warren Burger; Harry Blackmun; John Paul Stevens; Sandra Day O’Connor; Anthony Kennedy; David Souter; and, the faux conservative for the new millennium, John Roberts.

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The Robert’s fli.p was unusual in that it occurred at the last minute and after he had initially joined the opinion holding Obamacare unconstitutional. The authors of that opinion left in portions showing that Roberts originally had joined it. The rationale of upholding Obamacare as a tax was especially weak in light of repeated statements in the legislative history that it was not intended as a tax. My theory is less that Roberts was blackmailed (although I think it’s possible) and more that the Obama Administration threatened a campaign against the Court as an institution that Roberts just didn’t want… Read more »

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“. Well, if they really thought that, why bother with the shenanigans?””

To show Hillary that they were really on her side?

Worthy of senior positions.

A no-risk way to earn brownie points.

thekrustykurmudgeon
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Andrew Napolitano (who is sort of a blowhard so take it with a grain of salt) said that Fat Tony told him shortly before he died that he thought the chambers were being bugged.

Carrie
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Who is Fat Tony??

Mr3
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Mr3

What’s missing is that the FISA abuse dates back to 2012 either during Obama’s re-election campaign or after he won his second term (which CTH has surmised in numerous posts). The corruption is centered in the DOJ NSD division, which was carved out from oversight under Sally Yates. Outside contractors like Fusion GPS and Crowdstrike were given access to the NSA database search query functions which allowed them to view every aspect of a person’s identity – credit cards, travel, internet searches, email, phone calls, etc. This was used against political opponents for blackmail purposes – I wouldn’t be surprised… Read more »

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Mr3 said: “With communism imploded and white nationalism defeated militarily, we are probably stuck with managerial democracy until it commits suicide via demographic change.” Managerial democracy has also been called Soft Despotism. Alexis de Tocqueville talked about it. Here’s a link. https://www.city-journal.org/html/end-democracy-america-14332.html This is why the U.S.security apparatus has become so gigantic. Control is paramount. What I believe will happen is that eventually the powers that be will simply duplicate the British system and transition the U.S.into an Anarcho Tyrannical state. Here’s a link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-tyranny. I honestly don’t see any way around it.

Daphnis
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Daphnis

Well thought out. And the thing with comey announcing a possible indictment of Clinton during the election, there’s no way they are playing on Clinton’s team. It’s something deeper. I actually like the notion that these sorts of people are inherent schemers and as their IQ and human capital decreases we see them in ever more absurd capers. As their sense of untouchability and power drunkenness waxes, their propriety and rationality wanes. (Meaning the intelligence services.)

DLS
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DLS

I believe it all started in 2013 with the appointment of Brennan, who is an angry, true believing, socialist thug. He wanted to show off his spying prowess to Obama, Clinton and the deep state mediocrities, who all went along for the ride. The targets were any Republicans who opposed Obama, and probably included the Supreme Court. John Roberts appears to be seriously compromised. When Trump came along, they were trying to find illegal business dealings to sink him. Given the sleazy nature of NY real estate, this was a good bet. This is when Comey and Rosenstein stumbled into… Read more »

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

“Trust nothing” is right. I used to read that conservative treehouse site, but ultimately their analysis proved unreliable as well, they will spin and rationalize anything Trump does, they turned on Assad overnight in response to the Syria strike,deleting articles, etc. They laid a lot of the conceptual groundwork for the Q-Anon disaster. At least the mainstream media makes it obvious to the dissident right reader that it hates you and wants to mislead you. I am skeptical if we will ever get to the bottom of this specific incident and even if somebody does, it may be too complex… Read more »

Prussian
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Prussian

“… assume widespread corruption and judge these individuals and factions more broadly, based on known and verifiable actions.” I vote we categorically reject the whole of liberalism, as a historical force that seriously threatens to cast the whole of the Right into oblivion, to send it the way of the hunter gatherer. It has overthrown Throne and Altar Europe, fascism, communism, Francoism, Pinochet, the list goes on. Western/white civilization is next in the cross-hairs, as this force seeks globalization, as the elite of this force seeks global rule. I’m not optimistic that white bourgeois populist movements are up to the… Read more »

Prussian
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Prussian

To the populists out there, I’d like to say the following, if for no other reason than because I’m finding it cathartic. Take this from a man who has spent the last 15 years in the world of the “far” Right (the non-classical liberal right, running, to my mind, from Catholic anti-moderns like Donoso Cortes and de Maistre on one side, to Ernst Niekisch and the National Bolshevists of the German Conservative Revolution (essentially, advocates of a modern Lycurgan Sparta) on the other side). The far Right has been defeated and marginalized to a status similar to the Japanese hold-outs… Read more »

Arild
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Arild

The conspirators supposedly did all of these things, because they just assumed Clinton would win in a landslide. Well, if they really thought that, why bother with the shenanigans? That existed entirely in the media (paid propagandists). I started paying a little closer attention when the DNC kneecapped Bernie. Anyone with internet access could see Sanders and Trump filling stadiums and Clinton not filling bowling alleys and paying homeless people to fill the seats. The conspirators could easily see that Clinton was struggling and needed cloak and dagger help. What they “really thought” was that they could pull it off… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

The Deep State/Bureacracy response to Trump’s win, both with Russiagate and rampant subversion of administration policies in general, black-pilled me on making lasting changes within the present system. Watching the neo-cons barnacle onto Trump’s newly-christened ship of state within weeks of its launch was icing on that bitter cake. I should have seen this coming. It was too easy to blame Gay Mulatto for the failures to prosecute Lois Lerner, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch and Hillary Rodham Capone, of course. Years of kabuki from the odious, fork-tongued ex-car-thief Darrell Issa and Gay Gowdy’s Potemkin sequel should have red-flagged me. Instead,… Read more »

Vegetius
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Vegetius

>That suggests they know something the rest of us don’t know or they think they do.

Or maybe they hope to keep shaking the tree until something – anything – falls out.

It’s hard to say. But I would have thought that some hint of the “something” would have leaked by now.

Dutch
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Dutch

I think part of the “digging the hole deeper” going on now is that the bad guys figure that Trump must be guilty of something, so they throw a lot of stuff against the wall to see if anything sticks. There is also the idea of creating so much chaos that it stymies Trump, and also helps obscure what is hidden really deep. My personal guess is that the Pizzagate and spirit dinners are real, and that our elites are deep into taking in the blood of infants for life-extension purposes. That’s part of the abortion agenda as well, to… Read more »

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

Interesting tidbit along those lines. When the Kavanaugh drama was happening, a replica of the Arch of Baal was erected in DC. Baal was the God of the Canaanites and Carthage, who demanded the sacrifice of infants.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Yes there are many dogs not barking here – because their masters blessed the plot.

Trump’s biggest handicap is he wants to win a bloodless civil war, and that may not be possible. On the other hand there’s much to be said for the other side firing the first shot.

james wilson
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The conspirators believe, and much of the right agrees, that the new world disorder is present and almost complete. The pre and post election scheming was a brownie point display of virtue to our present and future masters for seating at the table.

Yves Vannes
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This all may be the decay of the governing parties due to too much diversity and thus too many competing factions. Once the mean IQ of an organization hits the mid 90s it’s over. Increase the number of factions making things more complex while simultaneously lowering the general intelligence of the people in those factions and guess what… When the lowest common denominator is continually defined downward… structural screwups in a complex system become more and more common. Add to this mix moralizing half-wits, malicious parasites, sleazy freaks and gibs merchants…all of whom believe that reality is constructed in committee… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

“Supposedly, the IG will be releasing his reports over the next few months, so we should learn a bit more…”

We Germans learned not to believe anything that came out of government printing presses around 1943. Americans may want to follow suit. The most recent publication, “9/11 Commission Report” was one of my favorite American fictions.

It’s a shame really. The whole episode of Trump’s Russia Gate would have been a wonderful Frederick Forsyth novel. I can hardly wait for the sequel that comes out next year.

Eric
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Eric

Thanks for getting back into this “Guilty Pleasure” Happy thoughts of the AG bringing forth some actual Meat for all of us to chew on, but I think we all know it will go down the “National Security” rabbit hole at some point. Still, it’s a Black Mark on the media that keeps on giving 😉

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

The biggest scandal in all of this, that people overlook, is that a warrant was signed by a FISA judge (to this day we don’t know the identity of this judge) based on perjured statements by officials. The evidence collected under this warrant was used to indict several people. Under previous cases this would trigger long standing “fruit of the poison tree” case law, ending in the overturning of all indicted under phony warrant. Will this happen? It’s hard to say. The bigger question is, what would Thomas Jefferson or James Madison think of “secret judges” delivering “secret opinions” using… Read more »

Nathan
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Nathan

This Russiagate Hoax and all the shenanigans of the intelligence services have been instructive in how the gubmint really works. As much as I have grown to loath Blormph he has exposed how rotten the whole system is. If he weren’t a shabbos goy NYC liberal playing a conservative Republican he would have called on his supporters to march on DC to demand real change. Instead he tweets. It’s funny that both White populist Republican Presidents in the last forty years have been “former” liberals with a gift for acting. They’re job is to keep the White masses placated long… Read more »

Nathan
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Nathan

*their

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>As much as I have grown to loath Blormph he has exposed how rotten the whole system is

Then stop being like a lefty and waiting for someone to ride in on his white worse and save you. If he exposed to you what the system is, WHY ISN’T THAT ENOUGH?

A people who see a rotten system then do nothing deserve the rotten system. Have you stopped paying taxes or picked up arms yet?

Andy Texan
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It is no surprise that the people in charge prefer no changes to the status quo. They’re all involved in the evolving plot. The power and prestige emanating from a 3+ trillion dollar budget is amazing and it does not take much skimming to make everyone rich. Case in point: a cousin is a long term democrap staffer on the house judiciary committee. His residence keeps getting grander. It turns out that access to members of the house and ability to write legislation has excess intrinsic value.

Dr. Mabuse
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Dr. Mabuse

These people being corrupt, I expect they’re also cynics. I think they embarked on this ride through Willy Wonka’s tunnel fully expecting that it wouldn’t take very much scratching the surface before they found something on Trump. I mean, there’s got to be *something*, right? How could there not be? In fact, I think they figured their baskets would be OVERFLOWING with dirt on Trump, a never-ending stream of damaging, crooked deals and payoffs, because that fits their stereotypical view of what a high-powered businessman is like. I think they were slapdash in laying the foundation of their inquisition because… Read more »

Lord of Lightning
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Lord of Lightning

RE: The contradiction of why the need for a spying campaign vs “We knew she would win!” I think spying on everyone was standard procedure for the Obama admin regardless of the laws or even the absolute necessity. They did it because they could. The O admin had no qualms about spying on barely nascent right wing groups throughout the US and also using the IRS and FBI to target them for harassment. Why would they bat an eye at using spies and foreign governments to ensure victory as a matter of course? It fits the pattern of the motivations… Read more »

c matt
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c matt

The Left seems to understand one thing that the Right does not – the opposition needs to be ripped from the ground by the root at the earliest sign of existence. As Barney Fife often said, “Nip it in the bud.”

Unknownsailor
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Unknownsailor

We know many things related to all of this for a fact. FBI contractors were accessing NSA databases to perform searches, and this was stopped by Admiral Rogers. The FISA court issued a ruling on this, it is not conjecture or inference. We also know that the Steele dossier was the basis of the FISA warrant, and the 3 extensions thereof. This also is not conjecture, or inference. What we don’t know is what Dan Bongino calls Paragraph 1, the original justification for the counter-intelligence investigation opened 31 July 2016. I personally think Brennan is the originator of all of… Read more »

RickZ
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RickZ

Okay, I’ll put on my tin-foil hat and give a theory I read which makes sense to me as to why this was done even though Her Royal Thighness was a lock to win the election. Trump is an outsider, never having held a political office before. He was not a part of the corrupt political body. So he has the temerity to run for president and get the nomination. The Powers That Be cannot abide outsiders thinking they can have a say. So the set-up of Trump was designed to get him into an indictable trap, lose the election,… Read more »

TomA
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TomA

Ever since 911, the feds have been monitoring almost all electronic communications (EC) in the US and a big chunk of elsewhere (Operation StellarWind). It was only a matter of time until corrupt DC politicians began exploiting this information resource to blackmail their opposition. Obama took this to a “whole nuttha level” under the tutelage of the Clintons, and both turned the Federal Government into a full blown criminal enterprise (Clinton as SoS sold influence in a Pay-to-Play scam, Obama copped a big fee on the Iran nuclear deal, and each made hundreds of millions at the public trough). You… Read more »

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

News flash: From Sundance over at the Conservative Treehouse. He has some braking news about a CIA asset named Stefan Halpe. Who, oddly enough, I was trying to find a couple of hours age so I could include his info in an earlier post. So anyway, here’s the link. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/

El Eff
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El Eff

On August 15, 2016 FBI agent Peter Strzok texted this to his “friend” Lisa Page: “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office—that there’s no way he gets elected—but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.” That’s why, even though many (but obviously not all) within the DOJ/FBI cabal that supported the globalist Clinton, felt the need to “spy” on Trump and members of his campaign. Yes, there was a general and wide spread belief, in the aforementioned cabal, that… Read more »

george
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george

And the insurance policy has worked pretty well so far. Trump has been hamstrung to this day. None of the criminals have been punished and probably will not be. Mueller and Rosenstein while in charge of the FBI and DOJ were probably able to destroy or modify a lot of evidence against the coup perps. The House is now in control of the dems.

The only goal they did not complete up to now is the outright removal of Trump.

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I tend to think the “insurance plan” has always been the core of this mess. That was the text that got Strzok fired, so it’s probably pivotal. Remember, Brennan and Clapper’s fingers are all over the ousting of Yanukovics in Ukraine. He, too, win a democratically fair election. He also promised to withdraw from EU natural gas agreements. It was much easier to sow seeds of “Russian interference” in that case. So, the insurance plan was to try and leave enough bread crumbs with Trump to arouse suspicion. Anyway, don’t bet on the Government Party turning on their own loyalists.… Read more »

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Yeah yeah yeah. I submit that everyone is awesome, but that we are different. Different people are different. Blacks as a whole are maybe not the sharpest knives in the drawer from an average IQ standpoint, but they are amazing people nonetheless, and certain of their boys are really good at sportsball. Asians are really amazing also, and they are amazing at math and other things too, but maybe not so good at driving. Whites are fun, we (I’m white) are maybe the people who fight among ourselves more than anyone else but we sort of invented the modern world… Read more »

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Chestertonrocks said: ” Why don’t we grab these bastards and hang them from the nearest lamppost? I call on everyone who hates those who think like me, why don’t we unite and destroy those who are trying to manipulate us and pull all our strings?” Because Mr.Rocks, we aren’t a bunch of homicidal f**king maniacs.That’s why. You should be posting on a leftist website if you want to find people who want to commit mass murder.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Most non-whites will never join you and the GOP because they are generally tribal and the GOP is not a vehicle for those motivations. Regarding blacks and hispanics, in a fair economic system, they will generally be less successful and they cannot accept that.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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O/T on El Paso shooter, et al: Most of the White mass shooters reacting against globalism and mass migration are progressive in every category but one – their white skins. El Paso shooter believes in UBI, etc. This lines up with the most zealous are converts, none so pure as the purified. Conservatism esp conservatism INC are railing against the dawning of the new terrible light with their usual ineffective failing. They shan’t conserve conservatism either. What else this means: The energy and passion of the Left is being transferred to the Right bringing all their visions of the anointed… Read more »

Anon
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Anon

“the most zealous are converts, none so pure as the purified.” I quite agree that compared to we who have have been working through the stages of grief for years if not decade, and have had ample time to evolve coping mechanisms that agree with our temperaments, from prepping glee to religious fervor to fatalism, the woke hipster who today parrots fashionable platitudes and tomorrow will have the scales fall from his eyes in one fell swoop is likelier to go off the deep end. In any revolution, the later vintage is always the most uncompromising, not least from having… Read more »

Steve
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Steve

Z Man, Sundance at The Last Refuge thinks the Russia thing was all about retroactively legitimizing illegal use of NSA databases, but I think the key was the Podesta email hack in March 2016. The DNC emails contained some naughty stuff about what they did to Sanders, but the Podesta emails were way more devastating. Im convinced Clinton team dreamed up the Russia hack narrative as a way to distract attention from the contents of the Podesta emails when they were released and discredit them as dirty politics. Recall that from the day that hack took place they knew all… Read more »

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for my money , the missing originator and organizer had to be someone truly animated by their hatred of trump. they also had to be a powerful and connected insider who could work both parties. the dems for foot soldiers and the GOP establishment to over their six. that points to John McCain in my mind.

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James LePore

I agree. McCain viscerally hated Trump for what Trump said about him. Up to that time no one had ever dared criticize Saint John or challenge his exalted prisoner-of-war/American hero status. It drove McCain crazy with the need for revenge. It was his top guy who shopped the fake dossier around DC, which led to the illegal warrants. Comey et al were confident that with Saint John at their backs they were guaranteed success, which was the destruction of Trump. Then McCain died and Trump won and the rats began to scramble, which led to the Mueller probe. There was… Read more »

UpYours
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UpYours

And the alt-white scores yet another wonderful self goal. Till yesterday Trump had the Rat party on the backfoot, trying to explain their insane leftard policies. Now, the Rats have seized the initiative thanks to yet another basement dwelling alt-right incel moron. Now it is #Trumpsterrorists and gun-control.

Mr Z, “your side” is a bunch of misfits and losers. The only thing “your side” is going to accomplish in 2020 is a massive Rat landslide with full on open borders and gun confiscation.

Isaiah
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Isaiah

Regimes are populated largely by people whose primary motive is always protection of the regime. Their desire to crush rivals, if it threatens to damage the shield of legitimacy, will be trumped finally by the primary motive. Whatever wrestling with conscience is performed, the safe prediction is, conscience will lose.

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I just wandered over to Drudge because I had heard about a few “Mass shootings” in Dayton and El Paso. As I read the info regarding the numbers, it occurs to me that those two events are a slow weekend in Chicago almost every weekend in the summer. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say the reason the events are newsworthy is because the perpetrators are white guys. The ghetto does that shit constantly. Maybe it’s expected behavior. If you want to see the real numbers out of Chicago, check out heyjackass.com. I think they may have… Read more »

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Watch Dogs that don’t bark means a silent consensus was reached by their masters. It also means money as that is the only way to build consensus in DC. >THE ONLY WAY. The last time this happened was 1990 with Desert Storm. The actual consensus and glorious alliance was built not so much by Elder Bush but Saudi Ambassador Bandar al-Sultan and to a lesser extent Kuwaiti princes. Yes the consensus within our blessed government. That there is consensus against Trump by no means points to the Saudis. It certainly means money spread around DC. It may be the very… Read more »

CAPT S
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CAPT S

“Trust Nothing” is correct. The reason we sane people cannot fathom these political shenanigans is because DC is flush with sociopaths and diabolical narcissists.

Carrie
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CAPT S
Do you read Ann Barnhardt?!

To the best of my knowledge, she coined the term “Diabolical Narcissist.”

If folks here are interested, you can google that term and her name, and i’m sure her two-part video series on Diabolical Narcissism will pop right up.

It’s great —and logical— observations.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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Speaking of no trust ; Armed citizens only trust their like.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/04/mass-shooting-gun-culture-227502

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sirlancelot

As others have expressed the deep state has literally gotten away with murder for so long they’ve become sloppy and arrogant . I think the president is just being cautious about backing these rats into a corner.

I do agree they enjoy rubbing the public’s nose in it. Leaving dead bodies laying around with the attitude, yeah we killed this guy, what ya gonna do about it ?

As always our reply is – nothing

” ” ” Because Mr.Rocks, we aren’t a bunch of homicidal f**king maniacs.That’s why.” ” “