Bourgeois Anarchy

It is generally assumed that liberal forms of government like parliamentary democracies and representative republics are middle-class in nature. That is, they require a strong and stable middle-class to come into existence, but they also foster the growth of a strong and stable middle-class. Because the bourgeois are conservative by nature, unwilling to risk their peace and prosperity, liberal democracies will tend to resist radical social experiments or take on great risks, like wars of conquest.

Of course, the history of popular government in the West strongly argues against those theoretical assertions. Not only has the West been racked by war, the peace that has existed for the last three generations is due to the imposition of empire. The Pax Americana is the result of the decades long stand-off with Bolshevik radicals and the final triumph of the American financial empire. In other words, the results of liberal democracy seem to be the opposite of what is predicted.

In fairness, one could argue that the last century of war and radicalism were part of the birthing pains of liberal democracy. Prior to the Great War, the West was still largely dominated by hereditary empires. Radicalism was the result of the prior age, born in the Industrial Revolution under the age of kings. The great competition for what would follow hereditary rule was the industrial wars and the subsequent ideological war, which was ultimately won by bourgeois liberal democracy.

This is the underlying assumption of Francis Fukuyama’s book, The End of History and the Last Man. The final triumph of the American empire of the Russian empire was not just the end of the Cold War. It was “the end point of mankind’s ideological evolution and the universalization of Western liberal democracy as the final form of human government” He has since revised his opinion on the matter, in light of current ructions, but it is an argument you still hear from time to time.

It does not matter how you frame it, as the West is now dominated by liberal democracy and the bourgeois sensibilities that supposedly support it. Look around the political classes of the West and you will not find exceptional men. In fact, much of Europe is now run by frumpy middle-class women. What is remarkable about the ruling classes of the West is not their mediocrity, but their uniformity. Every politician says the same things and behaves the same way in office. It’s rule by automata.

The horror that has gripped Washington for the last three years is not about policy disputes with Donald Trump. It is mostly about style. Trump is garish and flamboyant in his words and deeds. He is not a man with bourgeois sensibilities. Instead, his tastes range toward the crude and the base. The bourgeois hatred of Trump is all about the aesthetic. He’s not one of them and he is not respectful of their thing, so they see him as a threat, a foreign object that must be expelled from the body politic.

Of course, this smug, bourgeois elitism is not limited to Trump. It has become an article of faith in Washington and throughout the ruling capitals of the West, that the hoi polloi is the enemy of democracy. The great caper to rig the 2016 presidential election was as much about thwarting the will of his voters as the man himself. Today, the political class in Washington is proudly undermining the basics of democratic order in the name of democracy. Something similar is happening to Boris Johnson in Britain.

Washington politics is now an endless squabble between mediocrities over trivial matters that distinguish one from the other. Because these people all fall within a very narrow band of general talent, what makes one stand apart from the other is little things that would normally be overlooked. In order to avoid that, they amplify these trivial issues and endlessly pick at one another’s small distinguishing features. The result is endless hairsplitting and backstabbing over persona slights and insults.

It turns out that bourgeois government looks a lot like everything else in bourgeois society, in that it is debate about how many mediocrities can dance on a pin. The reason for this is the great middle is not all that great. If we use the standard of IQ studies and say the average IQ in America is 100, that is the pole around which bourgeois society is twisted. The closer one gets to that number, the more representative of the whole. By definition, the middle-class is mediocre.

Further, the people who fall about one standard deviation above the middle are going to be the people who dominate the cognitive fields like law, polices, the media and the academy. That’s an even narrower band of people. Relative to one another, they are even more mediocre. Walk around a college campus and you are surrounded by people who never met a risk they did not take. The same is true in the political class. What’s remarkable is the near total lack of accomplishment outside of politics.

Critics of democracy generally point to the stupid getting access to the ballot as the main flaw of democratic systems. If for example, America only allowed males to vote, the political center would be somewhere to the right of Ted Cruz. If whites were the only vote, something similar would result. The argument from those very bad people who make such arguments is that we have 30% of the population not built to operate a Western style democracy. As a result, the system must fail.

Whatever truth there is to that, the reason for those conditions, for stupid people getting the vote and foreign people imported to vote, is the bourgeois political class, supposedly operating from middle-class sensibilities, made that choice. The decision to expand ballot access was not done by the king or the oligarchy. That was the work of middle-class people supporting members of their class in political office. The same can be said of open borders, where bourgeois demands for cheap labor rule the day.

The fact is, a precondition for a middle-class is an elite that will impose order and discipline that allows for the growth of a middle-class. The bourgeois was never intended to rule, rather they were built to serve. Put them in charge and you get what one would expect by putting the inmates in charge of the asylum. The resulting bedlam always requires a strong hand to restore order. This is why authoritarianism always seems to follow every foolish experiment with democratic rule.


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Bartleby the Scrivner
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Bartleby the Scrivner

Well stated. In addition to my “square job”, I have a small construction company. It’s almost impossible to find people (men) that can/will; Show up, regularly Not be drunk Do a task without having someone constantly monitoring them. It’s gotten to the point where the guys who know what they’re doing, start their own thing. And don’t get me started on the lack of common sense most people lack regarding doing simple home repairs, or improvements. I swear, some don’t know what end of a hammer to hold. Or even own said hammer. This may be off topic Z, but… Read more »

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Yep. I live in a mid/upper-middle class subdivision (mostly folks in corporate middle management, upper-tier nursing, lower-tier academia, engineers/IT, and a few small business owners). I can count on one hand the number of men I see who: (1) mow their own grass / maintain their own landscaping (2) maintain their own vehicles (even for *simple* things) (3) fix their own house (again, even for *simple* things) These people are mostly pure consumers. They consume everything. I have *fights* with my wife about why *I* want to do something myself. “Just Hire Someone” is her constant refrain… I’m like, do… Read more »

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Okay I live in a neighborhood very similar to that one but I’m actually one of the worker bees and Ive got to say that these people support a vast economy. The people they hire to maintain every aspect of their lives is why I have shelter and food on the table. They’re not misers they’re Spenders. I appreciate them and God bless them I hope they keep making money

BadThinker
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BadThinker

I’m not completely against it. But I just don’t see how folks making (together) $120k/yr to $180k/yr living in $350k-$500k houses can afford it longer-tem. I certainly can’t (even with both cars paid off, no student debt, etc). One economic ‘correction’ or lost job, and these people are *done*.

I get it when at least one partner is a doctor, lawyer, high-caste academic, or executive, and the home is $800k+ with 3 luxury cars. But since when did the American middle class hire servants?

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It’s true. A great number of people can live like the 1% now. That actually shows you how good things are. For luxury cars they’ve had to add all sorts of extra bells and whistles because it’s the only way to separate them from what the hoi polloi drive because all cars are good now. Which ironically makes a mid-price car much more reliable than a high-end car. You rarely see cars broken down on the side of the road anymore but it’s always an Audi or something now

Compsci
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Compsci

Whitney, and a great number of people refuse to live as such. Wife is retiring soon, she thought she wanted a Lincoln Aviator until she found out the cost of such bobbles put on a basic Ford Explorer. Now she thinking to get a Cadillac, but it will be the same story, she has an inability to purchase and enjoy such luxuries as she has earned through a lifetime of work and investment. I’m beginning to think one has to be born with money to spend it. Just can’t take the peasant out of some people. 😉

Carrie
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Whitney: I was discussing this exact thing with a friend this weekend. She married well, and they have money in the bank, he has a good job (she stays home with the children) and they have a nice house. Cars are average: a 5+ year old Honda minivan, and he has a 12-year old Audi. She and I were discussing the personal value (belief) about not needing to have a fancy car, and instead having that money in the bank. In other words: no need to show off when you know you have money in the bank, rather than feeling… Read more »

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Staying home with the kids is no piece of cake these days. I know a lot of the stay-at-home moms and they frequently have kids in three different schools and all in activities and it is just seriously a Non-Stop job. And then there’s the anxiety, because they don’t talk about what the future looks like for their children but they feel it and they’re doing everything in their power to ensure that their children stay on top of the heap at the same time their kids are getting brainwashed by their schools, private or public, to find something they… Read more »

Rogeru
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Rogeru

@BadThinker
“. But since when did the American middle class hire servants??

The middle class has always had servants.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

The ‘historical’ middle class in Europe and the USA prior to the 20th century did. But the *American* middle class of the last generation or two, created by industrialization, usually did and has not.

Compsci
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Compsci

I’m all for trading money for time/leisure, and I sure did give it a try when I retired. Spread the wealth (as has been mentioned) is also a good reason as well. I don’t have a lawn, but there are grounds to keep, and a large house to maintain—and so I did. I had a roof leak, I called a roofing company. They fixed the leak. Next rain, new leak. This went on for three storms, regardless of what I told them to do—which was to patch everything they thought flaky. My general admonishment was to repair as you would… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

Two friends who worked part-time as real estate agents told me that they wouldn’t buy a house built after 1965 because it probably shabbily built. A third friend carefully watched the work done on her custom-made home. She demanded that a great deal be redone because they didn’t do it right the first time.

Duke
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Duke

You must be bad at math. My wife and I had a combined income that grew over the years to about 175K before tax, per year. Our home went from the purchase price of 200K in 1995 to 750K today. It’s paid off. That will pass on to any heirs when we are done with it. When we retired 8 years ago we had a combined pension income of about 52K per year plus we had about 550K in savings to invest. We don’t gamble in the market, and interest rates are very low, so that yields a minimum amount,… Read more »

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Good for You, Boomer. Pension, Medicare, Massive Home Price Inflation, I’m so *glad* that your life is fantastic and that you were born at the right time. I bet you paid your way through college on a part time job too! Obviously these uppity Xers, Millennials, and Zoomers just need to learn to do Math!

Compsci
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Compsci

BadThinker, I hear ya, however Duke’s ease of success and subsequent advice has little to do with your particular circumstances. Regardless of your particular “post Boomer” cohort, precepts such as “get married, stay married”, avoid out of wedlock children, avoid CC debt, live below your means, save the rest—are universal, timeless, *and* classless. That you perhaps did not do these things—or did do these things—with results perhaps not as good as for Duke does not mean that you are not better off than you would be by ignoring such advice. I am father to two millennials, who followed Duke’s advice… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Compsi, True, but Duke may not fully appreciate the difficulties that Xers and Millennials face. We sure as hell aren’t going to get a private pension. Also, his advice about the stock market being gambling is just wrong. The market isn’t rigged. It’s volatile. Owning stocks is simply a claim on future corporate profits. If you look at it like a business and forget the daily, monthly and annual gyrations, you’ll be fine. Just decide how much your gut is willing to lose and create a portfolio on that. If you can handle a 30% loss, put 60% of your… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

Citizen, on that we really do agree. I am most angry that TPTB—whoever, Greatest Gen, Boomers and X’ers —allowed such to happen. How does it profit Duke or me to be in the top wealth quintile while 80% of the rest of our society live hand to mouth? It’s disgusting and shameful.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Your kids, before they hit 30, are retired with grown children, have a paid off house that quadrupled in value, a 52k / year pension, government and/or company-pension-paid healthcare, buy new paid off cars, no student loans, etc?? I take your point about making good decisions, but unless your kids are *far* outside the norm, I’m sure they’re circumstances aren’t *that* good. I’m not discounting the value of proper planning, staying out of debt, and saving. Before I was 30 (and before I was married) I was out of all debt and had about a 50k net worth, with *no*… Read more »

Educated.Redneck
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Educated.Redneck

Duke said: “That is a big problem with many people, they live beyond their means, get divorced, have too many KIDS/pets/vacations, buy too expensive a house or car…” Kids are just another luxury, eh Boomer? Like Carnival cruises and Vegas vacations, huh? Should my people survive or should I spend a week at the Mirage?!? If anyone wonders why we’re in this giant demographic shitshow, you are Exhibit A. Sure we’re rapidly approaching CW2, but my 401k is doing great! If you wonder why everyone under 50 hates you, just contemplate the solipsistic atomistic “screw you I got mine” hedonism… Read more »

BFYTW
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BFYTW

If I could like this 1000 times I would.

ConservativeFred
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ConservativeFred

I had to up-vote your up-vote. I’ll tip my hat to living frugally, but to NOT notice the simple blessing of going to school and joining the work force during America’s golden age is simply amazing.

By the way, what is a pension?

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

A thing for government workers, (and contractors), that you subsidize by setting your alarm clock every morning.

Lineman
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Lineman

@Educated Redneck
Well said Brother…It’s all about loving self these days…Screw your kids and your society as long as your money holds out til you die…

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Yep. This is what the regular guy with a family hears: “Screw you, on your median salary of $32,000. Looks like you both have to work! Oh, shoot, we’re going to Vegas again so we can’t watch the Grandchildren, better find a daycare! Oh but not that one I heard stories about how daycares damage kids, you should just stay home to raise them! Oh, a house that fits you and your kids in a ‘good’ school district is at least $200k? A 1970’s split-level that needs a new roof, new siding, and a new septic tank? Oh well just… Read more »

BFYTW
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BFYTW

Confusing skill for luck. Boomers are the absolute worst.

Compsci
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Compsci

Confusing luck for effort, self control, and ability is a loser’s excuse for failure. We seem to see a lot of that here.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Compsci,

Boomer were paddling with the current. GenXers and later generations of whites are paddling against the current.

That’s the big difference that Boomers can’t seem to figure out. Plenty of Boomers who would have been successful without the help of the current, but at least acknowledge that later generations have a tougher path.

Ant Man Bee
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Among the many ingrained deficiencies of Boomers, one of the largest and generally unstated and misidentified Boomer deficiencies is that Boomers continue to believe that America is a giant cookie jar, and that every greasy Third World moocher on planet earth deserves a free cookie, because Time magazine cover photo of crying brown baby, or Magic Statue-Poem or something. Boomers (may their memory be erased) seem to think that all of the prosperity they have enjoyed their entire lives magically sprouted out of the ground, and since the cookies are magical, and arrive by magic, it would be immoral and… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

As I’ve said above Citizen, you will find no comment—ever—from me wrt follow on generational cohorts not having it harder. As you pointed out, even I’m not certain I could do economically as well in today’s society either. That being said, what I usually object to and comment upon are statements wrt Boomers having taken some unfair “share of the pie” and Boomers being some sort of impediment to all follow on generations’ goals and aspirations. This type of “guilting” I find little different from the nonsense the Left uses involving “White Privilege” and the like. These Leftist tactics have… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Boomers catch a lot of shi$, some deserved, some not. If I have to hear some GenXers bitching about Boomers and the 1965 immigration act, I’m going to lose it. Boomer were ~15-years-old when that happened. That said, the vast, vast majority of white Boomers are in a laughable cocoon and seem oblivious to what’s happening around them. From their birth to now, they really do seem an amazingly self-centered and selfish group. What irks later generations is the seeming lack of concern among Boomers about what happens after they pass. As Z says, they seem to have no desire… Read more »

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You have sent all my Boomer defense arguments back ten years. You really are the stereotype. Friends of my brother?

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

David,

Yep, he’s not helping your cause. He’s actually right about most of what he wrote, but his complete lack of understanding the situation facing most younger whites is stunning.

Boomers were paddling with the current. GenX and later generations are padding against it. Simple as that.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Duke, First, how many people working today are going to get a pension at all, much less one that pay $52k in today’s dollars. Your pension plus SS (assuming that the $52k doesn’t include SS) will easily be more than $80k. My generation won’t have private pensions, just SS, which likely will be reduced 10% to 20% due to lack of funds. A GenX couple making $150k will need well over a million dollars in addition to having paid off their house if they hope to retire in their mid-60s. They’ll also need to save ~$100k per kid to put… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

As a tail-end Boomer, I remember when Americans bragged that only the rich could afford household help because even the help made good money.

JescoWhite
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JescoWhite

Has anyone else ever considered the etymology of the word “Miserable”? As in miser-able. As in you are able because you are frugal being a negative state of existence.

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The same thing is happening in my neighborhood. Everyone has a shiny F-150, Silverado or Ram truck that is spotless without the dings of a well-used truck. The wives all drive various foreign luxury “crossover” SUVs. Very few of them (mostly top-level doctors, business executives and attorneys) mow their own grass or repair anything. I get weird stares when I’m out working on one of my cars or mowing my grass with an inexpensive push mower. I only call someone if I’m afraid that screwing up might cost me a bucket of money to fix or might kill me. My… Read more »

BadThinker
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BadThinker

And brave new world…

“No strain on the mind or the muscles. Seven and a half hours of mild, unexhausting labour, and then the soma ration and games and unrestricted copulation and the feelies.”

david
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david

I counted 5 of my buddies who became husbands, who were perfectly happy in 1 bedroom apartments, then suddenly bought SUVs and new homes within a year.

Firewire7
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Firewire7

Yes, them broads are EXPENSIVE!

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

I like the society presented in Starship Troopers. It’s both egalitarian (the wealthy factory-owner’s son Johnny Rico only acquires political rights because of his service in the military) and hierarchical (military ranks, obeying orders, group-orientation and strict rules with a strong sense of right and wrong). Democracy, with it’s emphasis on equality, inevitably leads to moral collapse. Democracy is not just a form of government, but a way of life. Everybody’s equal, everything’s equal, every person, every behavior and every idea. Except when you reject equality in some manner. No one has the right to tell you what to do… Read more »

CAPT S
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CAPT S

Over-specialization is killing us. A century ago the average doctor or lawyer in rural America could frame a house, repair a flat tire, and milk a cow. Ditto the engineer, the field which I know. Today’s engineer is usually an expert in a very narrow field, and can only solve the broad challenges with a team of other experts. I encourage young men to change their oil, repair electrical appliances, and fix their plumbing. If man created it I can fix it … not always of course but that’s the attitude to have. God didn’t create me to be a… Read more »

Teutonic
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Teutonic

Sorry. Gotta agree with your wife on this one.

One can always make more money, but time is finite. Has anybody at the end of their life ever said, “I wish I spent more time doing home repairs!”?

After working a full-time job I want to enjoy my time off, not work more.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

I guess it’s how you view what a home and family is supposed to be about. I’m of Chesterton’s view: “the productive home with its creative kitchen, its busy workshop, its fruitful garden, and its central role in entertainment, education, and livelihood. Unlike the industrial home, life in a productive household is not amenable to scheduling and anything but predictable.”

Many folks aren’t, and I get it. Industrial/Digital-Age consumption is a powerful force. The challenge for me at least is that I once *wasn’t* of the Chestertonian view, and married a woman who still isn’t…

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

The massive influx of women into the paid workforce has been a blessing to the restaurant business. Also, led to an increase of obesity. McDonald’s vs. mom’s home-cooked meals.

david
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david

I know plenty who say “i wish i could afford my bills.” So some of the DIY attitude snowballs into other areas and encourages savings across the board.

Sub
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Sub

Where is the additional money going to come from, except additional work? Either way work has to be done for the fix to happen, so is it better to work for your own self satisfaction or to work for what is likely the additional benefit of Globohomo Inc.? The weirdest thing about a lot of moderns isn’t that they don’t know which end of the hammer goes where, its the bizarre pride they take in that ignorance. I was once paid about 700$ to replace a circuit board that was 4 screws and a wire harness and took less than… Read more »

Member

Agreed. I quit cutting my grass years ago. Used to take me two hours to cut my yard with a push mower. My “lawn care professional” gets it done in 15 minutes with his zero turn monster. Totally worth it.

Drake
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Drake

Heh – So I’m not the only one who has those arguments wife.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Nope. My wife gives me crap as well about my “DIY” attitude. I’ve come around to the belief that with women – it’s a strange jumble of beliefs that: A) working with your hands is a lower class skill set – combined with B) being able to brag to other women when their husband can do something their husbands cannot. If you were a doctor or highly paid executive – their ability to brag about your position in the social pecking order (and ability to earn $$) would more than compensate for your incompetence with physical skills. I know plenty… Read more »

Drake
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Drake

Bernie was basically a bum who spent the first 20 years after college doing next to nothing.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

Bernie’s tribe is particularly adverse to doing anything around the house. There’s an old joke that you know that a house is owned by jews because there’s no kitchen.

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I really don’t have a problem with this. I realized one thing a while back that there’s only one real currency you have in your life: time. If your time earns you enough money to pay people to do things you don’t like to do, that’s all to the good. The time put to alternate uses means more to you than the money, and there’s somebody out there who really needs that money. Now, I’m not the “I don’t know how to do stuff on my own” type. I built a lot of my own house. I can do simple… Read more »

DLS
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DLS

I shamefully admit that, other than mowing, I “call a guy” for most home repairs. My father was a school teacher, but in his spare time he installed outlets, put in a new bathroom, finished two basements, replaced drywall, and many more things than I can remember. This was before the internet and YouTube. While he was doing all this, I played sportsball and learned nothing. I see Teutonic’s point about the value of free time, but something is being lost. Maybe when I have more time…

3g4me
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My father was utterly incapable of home or auto repairs. My husband does basic auto (his first job way back when was at an old-style gas station) but isn’t particularly skillful around the house (but he has a brother who does it all). His argument is that he’s just not that interested and doesn’t want to spend the time. On the other hand, he complains incessantly about the costs of repairs. He used to cut our grass, but between mowing and edging in the Texas summer heat, it would utterly wear him out and he was then done for the… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

A friend said that back in the 1960s her dad could take apart and put back together a car. That was in the pre-computer age. What can a car owner do to repair or maintain his car nowadays, other than change a tire? Here in NJ, used oil must be discarded at certain locations. Might as well let a mechanic do the work.

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56 years old, seven figure net worth, and I still perform all the maintenance on my vehicles including brakes. In my experience, if you want something done properly, you have to do it yourself.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

I enjoyed meeting you BerndV

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Likewise. I was hoping to chat a bit more and exchange contact information. Meeting Jared was a genuine honor. He is a true gentleman.

Jack B.
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Jack B.

Very True. Modern computer systems in cars prevent you from doing most major repairs yourself. Brakes and Tire maintenance is basically it.

Educated.Redneck
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Educated.Redneck

“Modern computer systems in cars prevent you from doing most major repairs yourself.”
That’s bizzare and inaccurate. Commercial diesels, maybe. Granted I don’t own anything made after 2002, but I’ve engine swapped obd1’s and gotten elbow deep on obd2’s. It is conceptually no more difficult to work on ecu-controlled powerplants than carbureted stuff. Personally I prefer rearranging wires to dealing with vacuum systems.

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It’s not just economic value, particularly for repairs that require less skills. Keep in mind that they have as a hard a time finding people as Bartleby does and it’s not going to be the creme of the crop sent out to do the work on these jobs.
And nobody cares about your stuff the way you do.

Soviet of Washington
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Soviet of Washington

Ha, ha…have a millennial neighbor across the street. Marketing guy…was the local phone co, now somewhere else. Haven’t ever seen him do anything house/yard/car related. Can’t even be bothered to pick up the poop in his backyard from his three dogs. Hires it out to a weekly pickup service.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Doing things yourself has become low status. At least among the types of people you are detailing that live in your subdivision. Like you – I’ve noticed the same thing. I see a decent number of people around me who mow their own grass – but I also see the landscaping company trucks going up and down my road all week long as well. I don’t think I really recall seeing all the landscaping companies exploding all over the place until the late 80’s or early 90’s. Before that – most people (men) mowed their own lawn. Like Bartleby –… Read more »

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

BadThinker, It’s puzzling to me why your wife wants you to hire someone else to do fix-it jobs. Men who can do things themselves are appealing to women. It’s been said by those who study laws of attraction that a husband clomping around the house wearing a toolbelt fixing things is a turn-on to wives. Appeals to the limbic part of their brains.

Member

What did Red Green say, if they don’t find you handsome they better find you handy.

ReturnOfBestGuest
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ReturnOfBestGuest

One of the last great shows from our neighbors to the north.

ulithi
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ulithi

if it can’t be fixed with duct tape, it ain’t worth fix’n

Ant Man Bee
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Not so many people smoke any more, but back when I was a young chap chasing the girls around, I got some sage advice from a grizzled uncle: always use a good well-made metal lighter (like a Zippo, not a plastic one) to light your cigarettes (and especially a girl’s cigarette) instead of matches. The lighter is a tool, and it makes a metallic clicking sound, and that is a major subconscious turn-on for women.

Very good advice, and it worked like a charm.

Carrie
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I was reading someone’s comment on here once, recently, about why the idea of “DIY” in the middle class (a la BadThinker) is a point of pride. I can’t remember what the commenter said about its genesis, but I can recognize that the “DIY” quality of the middle class is dwindling, whereas it may never have existed in the old money upper classes.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

That was normal male behavior for men of my parents’ generation. Self-reliance, living within your means and a stay-at-home wife who took care of many chores during the weekdays. With both husband and wife working outside of the home, some prefer to outsource household duties, leaving them with more spare time in the evenings and weekends. Also, dad taught his son how to do household repairs the way mom taught her daughter how to do household chores. Given the high rate of divorce among Baby Boomers, many boys didn’t have a dad to teach them how to work around the… Read more »

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FWIW: Pre-marriage, I fixed everything, did everything. Post-marriage, it’s just easier to listen to my wife complain about how the “contractor screwed it up” than to do it myself. “Good enough” might once have been good enough, but christ…entitled lasses demand perfection.

Worth it, though. Right? RIGHT?!?!

(just need a few more billable hours though…)

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I suspect that part of the cause of these young men being clueless is not having a full-time father in the home, thanks to the all the divorces of the past thirty years, women filing 70% of them and emasculating Dad forever in the minds of his children with that one act. Youngsters need a father modeling a work ethic, and, well, man things, like holding a hammer. Feminists can screech all they want, but it’s objectively biological and psychological–as children mature they need mom’s nurturance less and less, and dad’s problem-solving skills and guidance on how to deal with… Read more »

Dutch
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When the big fire came to our neighborhood in 2003, I was the only one who knew how to grab a big wrench and turn off the gas main with it 😮 A benefit of doing your own work is that you get skilled at it. There may come a day that having those skills, the tools, and knowing how to use them, could make a big difference. I have become a bit of a tool hoarder. The sturdy vintage stuff, bought at garage and estate sales, is the best. A full tool set in each car and truck, and… Read more »

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Fetal Position Syndrome – brilliant!! Perhaps the one syndrome which cannot be treated by some synthetic medication, but rather requires the non-drug of: stark reality – in heapin’ helpins.

Compsci
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“I suspect that part of the cause of these young men being clueless is not having a full-time father in the home,…” Yep, that got me to thinking. Why do I do what I do around the house and environs. In every case, I can see an adult male figure in my life when I was young with me watching and helping (such as it was). Doesn’t have to be a biological father, but it does have to be an adult male role model—and there can be more than one. It can be a neighbor, an uncle, but someone willing… Read more »

Carrie
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Just to add another perspective: Don’t think that millenial (and later) FPS is only reserved for those boys who didn’t have a father in the home. I have some immediate family where the Dad (family member) goes to a corporate job, the mom stays home and takes care of the son. But because Dad has his quasi-leftist learnings (not totally, but things that go bang bang are BAD) and while he has taught the 16-y.o. son some good things about money, saving, and investing, there have been almost NO practical skills instilled in the kid. In addition, they let him… Read more »

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Being able to do things outside of your day job is a type of freedom. Not the freedom from want or being uncomfortable, but the freedom of autonomy. Its not just about optimizing financial transactions. The observation, people who grow their own food, know how defend themselves and their family and have competencies outside of their day job are less likely to be of a liberal persuasion.

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I am not sure whether one model is better than the other? When I was part of Globohomo Inc., I paid for everything: yard work, snow removal, home repairs, etc… There was simply no time when you are an airline’s frequent flyer dream customer. Then I left Globohomo and have more time, so I do my own yard work, shovel snow, and some minor house repairs (wood trim, grout, door seals, etc..). I’ve done some electrical work, and I should probably do more. One thing I’ve notice with car repairs and other home repairs is the specialization of tools. I’m… Read more »

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These female managerial class types — the older ones, even if they are big Hillary or Liz supporters, can be very competent and fair-minded if you are pleasant to them. The ones in their early 30s and younger are a disaster — fat, entitled, bitter, scolding, incompetent know-nothings. Our institutions won’t be able to survive them.

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” Our institutions won’t be able to survive them.”

thank God!
most of our “institutions” don’t deserve to survive..
School system?
Dept motor Vehicles?
Welfare offices?
Hollywood?
Academia?

Bring it on.

ProUSA
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“our institutions won’t be able to survive them.”

That is why public education has become a jobs program. There, you will find the most useless but wholly empowered females.

BadThinker
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“It turns out that bourgeois government looks a lot like everything else in bourgeois society, in that it is debate about how many mediocrities can dance on a pin. ” I’d love to see more expansion on how the bourgeios takeover of everything has led to the collapse of all the places smart(er) folk once were able to find a place within the social order while still gaining the benefits of traditional bourgeios values (family, faith, community, social connection, etc). Entire American corporate departments are *filled* with mediocrities now. The marketer, accountant, benefits coordinator, supply chain analyst, project manager, etc,… Read more »

MossHammer
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BT. Seems dissident smart folk are risk-taking by retreating in areas where the blast zone of the coming reset might get them too. I used to believe I should put on the mask, dive into the cesspool of mediocrity and grab all I can as fast as I can. Now I believe that’s a fools errand because of the opportunity cost of not preparing for what’s Next. I’m somewhere between Bison Prepper and Zman, I think. Navigating best I can hour by hour, with an eye (and laboring) on weeks, months and years to come. Homeschooling our kids is motivating… Read more »

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Moss homeschooling is the greatest thing you can do for your kids and they will thank you the rest of their lives…I know that because mine are already thanking me and they are just starting out…

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Corporate departments by their nature have always been filled with mediocrities. I have worked in corporate finance for 31 years. I am generally risk averse and not terribly creative, so I make a decent living doing the white collar scut work to support the risk takers. I am surrounded by many with the same characteristics.

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Yes, this is a concern to me. I am going to graduate in 2 years and enter the field of STEM. The only problem is that, I have no interest in working for companies where the entire department is sub-continentals and various alien mystery meats. Am I afraid of being mistreated? Not really. What I dislike is the alienation and complete lack of cohesion that happens when you have “diversity”. Just interchangeable aliens working together to make some stupid piece of software run. Robots. So I’m not sure what to do. Should I make a go of it in those… Read more »

Compsci
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When you succeed in a rigorous field of study, e.g. STEM, the world is open to you. If one corporate environment is too poz’d, you are able to find another because you have a valuable commodity to sell—ability! Yes, you will enter some corporations and bump into “diversity” hires, but the reality is that too many such hires will place the corporation at a productive disadvantage.

Don’t put the cart before the horse. Forget about others. Concentrate on yourself. You will not fail.

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My advice would be to start in a smaller shop where you get to do more and learn more with the goal of ultimately working remotely. If I had started out in a Fortune 500 company (like the now-defunct one I contracted with a few years back) I would have made more money, learned nothing but office politics, and been bored rigid. (My last project with them involved changing one character in a SQL query running in a black-box reporting Db. I spent an entire week filling out the paperwork to move it to QA.)

Dutch
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If you are going into STEM, consider lab work. My favoritist (and only) daughter learned all the lab techniques for her microbiology degree, and got actively recruited for her first job in the field. She also likes the lab work because she “doesn’t have to deal with humans all day”. She’s kind of picky there, that’s OK with dad. Here in California, she can get certification as a “Certified Lab Technician” and then a “Certified Lab Scientist”, and basically write her own ticket wherever she wants. All her work is under NDAs so she can’t talk about it, but she… Read more »

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In a 10-20% third world firm somebody has to the actual work. That will be you. Break your balls for a few years gaining hands-on electromechanical problem solving skills and learning how to interface and iron out software conflicts. While in school master your dimensioning and tolerances, know your CAD, learn to run a milling machine, and learn to use hand tools. Or obtain a full time internship at Northrop Grumann this winter or summer. Da boomers be retiring very, very soon. Wink, wink. Do not turn down a technician-level internship if one is offered should they deem you not… Read more »

Lineman
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Are you an inside guy or an outside guy…I was an outside guy which is why I chose my field instead of being the Architect that my teachers said I should do…If you are an outside guy look into the trades that require a journeyman ticket you will find hardly any diversity hires…

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Unless you’re set on something else, I urge you to consider electrical, mechanical, or electromechanical engineering. Or engineering technology from a place like Cal Poly, if you live in California. From what I’ve observed opportunities for young engineers with hands-on skills are greater. Automation is here. As are UAVs and UGVs. And missiles, too, because FUSA is (quietly) concerned about Russia’s hyper-sonic vehicles. Competent engineers and electrical/electronic/mechanical/electro-mechanical technicians are needed. Inside and field-types, as Lineman mentioned. Nowadays young engineers are oriented toward math and design. My sons, all engineers, have confirmed my impression that companies are “rediscovering” the value of… Read more »

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UFO, I don’t know how rooted you are in your current location, but there are tech jobs in red state cities where the demographics and poz aren’t nearly as bad. I’ve worked as a software engineer in three big cities on the west coast and at those places your concerns are realized. However, I relocated to a red state and have a great job with comparatively little multiracial or degenerate headaches. Good luck.

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My wife retired from a well-known Midwestern liberal arts college a year ago. What struck me was the rigid conformity of thought among the faculty, many trained at prestigious graduate schools.

Most striking, every faculty office bulletin board was decorated with exactly the same political posters. Apparently, individual faculty could arrange as they saw fit, but the whole set was mandatory. This was regarded as a desirable situation.

Compsci
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Interesting. I had somewhat of a different experience, I was the oddball out wrt my office at the University. Way back when in the Reagan/Bush era, I got a Christmas card from the Whitehouse. Don’t ask me why, I don’t know, but I put it on the door with others from students. Every morning, I’d come in and check out the umbrage it created during the night. No faculty ever mentioned it, but many anonymous students (I assume) had no problem vandalizing it in many imaginative ways. After a week or so, it vanished, thereby ending my impromptu experience in… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

I have always been amazed how little respect the snowflakes show for other people’s property. Somehow they feel entitled to simply deface or destroy other people’s things that they don’t like. Yet, look at them cross eyed and they melt down.

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There’s the old joke about going into a Communist bookstore, loading up with stuff and walking out. When they stop you, explain that it’s “according to your need.”

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“What is remarkable about the ruling classes of the West is not their mediocrity, but their uniformity.” The current system is set up to keep brilliant, independent-minded people out of political power. The media and intelligence agencies are actually a giant filter designed to locate and neutralize anyone they deem “suspicious”. Trump represents the kind of person they definitely did not want: hyper-wealthy, self-made, smarter than most politicians, confidant, and contemptuous of the media. They absolutely must take him out at all costs in order to put the next ladder-climbing mediocrity in place. I’m actually surprise that they have not… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

I would fear that assassination comes after a 2020 re-election.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

I’d suspect that it was discussed somewhere, but so far, Trump hasn’t rocked the boat too much, either in terms of draining the swamp or trying to halt our march toward multi-culti heaven.

In the end, he’s a crass CivNat Boomer who still believes in much of Cult of Equality. He’s annoying to the elite, but, again so far, hasn’t proved to be much of a threat. Now, if he starts prosecuting rogue FBI and CIA agents, starts building a wall, enforcing immigration law against businesses, etc., then we might see some fireworks.

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Stand by. Bill Barr did not go to Italy just to enjoy the food.

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Yup. The Mifsud thing may bear fruit, that seemed to be the trigger to turn Pelosi into an impeachment true believer asap.

Vegetius
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Young people who have only known the costs of empire and are living the blowback have a hard time understanding how something as silly as globalist TINA-ism could be taken seriously.

While the smarter among them should study the specific ways and means by which this came to be, for everybody else it is easiest just to call it all a globalist plot and move on to how we get rid of it.

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Mediocrities squabbling over trivial matters. It never ends.

Tykebomb
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Tykebomb

There is no economic rule that says you have to have a middle class.

Compsci
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Not sure I agree. There must always be a supporting population of highly skilled folk for the elites to draw upon—doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. those folk will not be of the lower IQ cohorts (<100) and they certainly won’t spend a third of their lives developing such skills for minimum wage. They will be the middle class of the dystopian future I see developing—a small cohort of perhaps 10 to 15%. But yes, it would seem we are headed into an era of a vast lower class typical of what we see in Latin America. To the support of this,… Read more »

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The unanswered question in Z’s post is, “Why did the conservative bourgeois expand the voting franchise to those who would vote against the bourgeois?” I disagree with Z and guess that this decision was driven by white and J3wish elites.

We will confront his underlying issue in a white ethnostate: the ruling elite come to hate the non-elite and empower outsiders to weaken the non-elite.
How do we prevent our elite from hating the non-elite?

My favorite uncle addressed this problem. Has anyone else?

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All things point to an ethnostate. Every race needs its own homeland.

Compsci
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Compsci

The ethnostate will not provide a population where all people are above average, but sure would improve living conditions.

BadThinker
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Xi is really popular in China for his apparent crackdowns on elite corruption. Putin is popular in Russia for the same reasons.

https://thediplomat.com/2014/12/the-worlds-most-popular-leader-chinas-president-xi/

https://insidestory.org.au/how-xis-crackdown-became-a-backlash/

“That is why, when officials are toppled, the wrongdoings listed in the official media often include offences that are not crimes of themselves, such as leading a debauched lifestyle and taking on mistresses.”

Could you imagine an American Mayor or Congresscritter being fired for leading a debauched lifestyle? There’d be nobody left!! Maybe a few midwesterners would be spared.

Judge Smails
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Judge Smails

Debauched lifestyles of the elite – see Jeffrey Epstein’s video collection.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

As recently as 1988, married Democrat Gary Hart bowed out of the presidential primary race because he was discovered to have a girlfriend. Ronald Reagan was the first divorced president and I don’t think that a twice-divorced man would have been elected president in 1956.

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“Critics of democracy generally point to the stupid getting access to the ballot as the main flaw of democratic systems.”

It’s not that they are necessarily stupid. It’s that they can’t possibly have any personal knowledge of whom they are giving their vote. Candidates are the products of coordinated efforts of anonymous staffers and media flacks, an advertised consumer product, like toothpaste or beer. The modern nation/state is simply too large for the democratic process.

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If letting the stupid have access to the ballot didn’t cost me so much – I probably wouldn’t care so much The reality of our current “democratic” system is not that people object so much to all the dumb people voting – they object to the government being used as a tool by the useless and stupid to force $$$ out of their pockets to subsidize the useless and stupid. If all the dumb people had access to voting for was whomever the next “representative” was going to be – and the government was as toothless as intended in the… Read more »

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Hoagie

Another fantastic Zman post. The “mediocrity” has slain the Republic. I hate to say that as a Vietnam vet and a real Patriot but I think America is disestablishing. Those conservatives who want to “go back” need to realize one can never go back. We have to prepare for the future not relive the past. We need to stop all immigration. Seal the borders. Deport all Mohammadans, communists and illegal aliens. Then keep them the fuck out. We also need to realize no matter how much it hurts to say the Constitution has failed and we need another way. The… Read more »

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I’m all for sealing the border and doing lots of deporting. However, I think whites are more responsible than minorities for our present problems. Minorities have always voted for big government and PC policies. It is the whites, though, that have changed in my life time. Outside rural areas, whites are now supporting the bad guys from 45% to 55%. This is probably due to indoctrination in college and even in most public and private high schools. The New England states, Oregon and Washington are mostly white, but elect hideous candidates to office. My wife grew up in the Chicago… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

The younger whites are sheep following the herd. It has been trained into them from day one.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

It just goes to show you that IQ isn’t everything. This is why I don’t think a white ethnostate is the answer, it would invariable self-destruct as the high IQ slowly morph into Bernie Bros and turn on the rest of the whites. Like what happened in Britain where the aristocracy turned on the lower classes.

Christian Attorney in Ohio
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You’re right about an ethnostate not being the answer. We need a section of the country where there are few if any large cities. Alabama and Mississippi vote the right way in spite of large black populations. Georgia and North Carolina, due to the large cities (Atlanta and Charlotte), will soon be blue states.

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I can’t speak for the rest of the country, but New England (and the east coast, generally) were the first to be impacted by mass immigration. Pick a county and trace its voting record. Start with the cities and the near suburbs and follow the flight ever outward. It’s no mystery.

Captain Mike
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Captain Mike

In other words, in order to save the village, we must destroy the village.

Educated.Redneck
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Educated.Redneck

Cpt Mike: In order to save the villagers, we must destroy the village, and hang the village shamans.

Tom
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Tom

On paper Mexico is a liberal democracy, but in reality it’s a Narco feudal region. Thats probably the big divide in the future, white and Asian areas with a functional state vs everyone else.

ProUSA
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ProUSA

No, or very limited private property rights, I believe.

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Roald

Following the OT people, an anecdote. I was on vaca this summer and was touring a lighthouse. You know the deal, buy a ticket, wait for the time they allow you to climb to the top. So there I was, at the top, having an amiable discussion with the park ranger, an older lady. She was telling me about her science background, what drew her to the work in her retirement years, pointing to a wetland in the near distance. So I am wearing a shirt identifying my alma mater, and this bovine, really fat, tatted, revealing too much skin… Read more »

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I was just listening to (((Andrew Marantz’s))) TED talk. He was talking about his experience interacting with “us” for lack of a better term. One line really hit me: “No one is born not believing in democracy” as a way to smear us as being contrarian for its own sake. This is how up their own arses these people are. Who is born “believing in democracy?” As if belief in democracy is encoded in our genes. Democracy is really like a religion to these middling intellects. When the people defy the elites’ beliefs, it isn’t the failure of democracy to… Read more »

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Most humans are born with an innate sense of Hierarchy and Authority (both men *and* women, but women have much more ‘hidden’ social hierarchies, at least to men…). Is this dude an idiot or a liar (or both)?

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Nathan – very well said. You critique of Marantz echoes, in some way, my critique yesterday of Paul Gottfried. They seem to share the assumption that the dissident right and/or identitarians are merely shock artists, a pep squad, contrarians, or autistes. They utterly refuse to believe that any intelligent, well-read rational individual could possibly share our beliefs. Yet I’ve learned more history and political and moral philosophy in my online reading of “hate sites” than in all the years prior, and yet I tick every box the elites value re credentials (elite college, grad schools, jobs, etc.).

Nathan
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Nathan

Here’s the speech that left me thunderstruck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ix8JEqCJ1s

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

They want everything flattened out and regulated. The West as an economic zone, run by drab managerial elites, populated by people from all over the world as economic units working, shopping, consuming netflix, spouting the same approved opinions. Fewer corporations owning more, including formerly independent news outlets and radio stations. Anyone or anything sticking out among the crowd must be hammered down or banned.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

I swear, to these people, Mustapha Mond is their idol.

IFrank
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IFrank

I don’t think the Washington antipathy is a matter of aesthetics so much as it is a matter of economics. Sure he’s a bore, but so what? The real threat he presents to them is if he halts the gravy train. There’re all quite wealthy and they want things to continue in this fashion whether the head honcho is a bore or quite debonair.

Yves Vannes
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“The bourgeois was never intended to rule, rather they were built to serve. ” And they still serve. Their subservience to current orthodoxy despite decades of social decay is pathetic. Dairy cows display more resistance on their daily herding into the milking barn than does your typical corporate worker bee or academic. Sell the bourgeois a moralistic tale, spin it daily, catch them young…and you can milk them until the stars burn out. Which is why changing the narrative is so critical to our success. Something you excel at. Calling them out by name and dealing harshly with the vermin… Read more »

MossHammer
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Yves, can you expand on what to do with the new narrative? That is, how to share / broadcast the message? The pulse of dissident collectives seems to be head down, not open debate (because that’s just not allowed by our chosen ones). If we are grossly out numbered by almost every measure and space, how can a different story be told?
As I learn from these discussions, and please hear my respect for your position, a new narrative suggests general application and portability. But I question collective efforts beyond quiet fortification. And that’s mostly individual it seems.

Dutch
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Dutch

Getting inside their OODA loop is necessary. The “Islam is right about women” signs are brilliant.

Yves Vannes
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MH, Without endangering ourselves and those close to us we need 1000 more Zmans, 1000 more Ramzpauls, 1000 more Enochs, 1000 more of a lot of things. Maybe even 10,000 more. I think the best thing we can do right now is to make connections with friends and family who are like-minded. You don’t have to go full 1488…but just express dissatisfaction with the current social milieu and where its headed. Meet regularly and discuss how you could assist one another when things do turn for the worse…and other contingency plans. Keep the group small. The next 2 presidential elections… Read more »

Wolf Barney
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I agree, all of us need to reach more people. We’re up against huge obstacles, but we have one big advantage: the truth is on our side. So many people we know are carrying around so much cognitive dissonance, lies and propaganda, sometimes it doesn’t take much to make it crumble. And it’s better to approach discussions with friends in a good-faith way rather than a snarky gotcha manner.

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ReturnOfBestGuest

Exactly. Help an injured guy out by shoveling/snow-blowing his walk and driveway. Rake his leaves or mow his lawn. Bring over meals to a family that’s had a recent birth or death. Even if they refuse you’ll be labelled a good person. It’s the right thing to do regardless. Let’s be the people who do the right thing.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

That sort of voluntary assistance was taken for granted at one time. One of the reasons why it’s less common is because in a socialist society (we live in a socialist society) personal relationships to people in particular are replaced by impersonal relationships to people in general. I’ve asked others, “Who’s going to take care of so-and-so?” “The Government.”

Rod1963
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We need organizers and some Thomas Paine types that can actually talk to the normie whites, provided our side had a message for them – which it doesn’t. Right now the DR has as much substance as Beto or any Lefty running for president. Which is to say none. Yeah there are a lot of whites pissed at the status quo, but the DR offers no alternative because it has nothing to say to them outside of “democracy is bad” and wishing for a dictator to fix everything for us, for god sake. The DR isn’t a movement at this… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

Lucifer aside, “…better to serve in heaven, than rule in hell…”

jwm
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” Look around the political classes of the West and you will not find exceptional men.”

It occurred to me the other day, that Trump is the first president since Eisenhower who is not a career politician.

JWM

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Reagan was not a career politician.

Compsci
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Compsci

Reagan was governor of CA. He also ran, or attempted to run for the presidential nomination the term before he got the nomination (IIRC). He was president of the Screen Actor’s guild for a term or two. I’d say he had political bona fides, albeit did not make his bones on it.

david
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“By definition, the middle-class is mediocre..” The middle class IQ must be higher, because we know the “inner city people” average at 85.

Compsci
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Compsci

David, I’m wondering this as well. I just don’t have the facts wrt IQ standardization. A lot will have to do on when last standardized and upon the population. A failing of mine to be sure. Given our current PC culture, I can see more and more vibrants being included in the future standardization (always to the magical number, 100) which would push the average White into current Asian territory—and would change our frequent discussions of the Smart Fraction and what numbers of students should be pursuing a college education and the like.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

That’s Blacks in general. The inner city folk might clock in at retarded level – 70.

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Crud Bonemeal

The conclusion of this article is incorrect. NRX is based on a critique of democracy which simply doesn’t fit the facts. The masses did not vote to enact replacement level migration, it was forced upon them by the elite. In the United States we can point to several attempts to stop or discourage replacement level migration, which were voted for by the people and then frustrated by politically sophisticated elites. Examples include the various ballot resolutions in California, such as denying public funds to illegals, (Prop 187) which were struck down by the Courts. And the election of Blumpf in… Read more »

JescoWhite
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JescoWhite

Next time you hear the “but that wasn’t real communism” argument remind them that a whole lot of people at the time thought it was. So all those people were either stupid sheep or it was real communism. Either of those conclusions will disrupt the leftist mental OODA loop.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

Spot on analysis. As a CA I remember how the elite stopped every effort at curtailing immigration reform. No one wants to mention that because it doesn’t fit into the current narrative being pushed.

Unless we have a way of keeping the elites in check, the outcome will always be the same, the elites turning on us.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

Abortion, gay marriage and, in the UK, Brexit, decisions by judges.

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I think we’re evolving into a system where the only actual citizens are members of the permanent government, the dominant media, and academia. They work hard to diminish the value of citizenship by importing more and more people who have no real interest in citizenship, and they expand the rights of non-citizens to the point where you actually have a default-higher prestige as an oppressed immigrant POC than the people who are born here. It’s a feature not a bug designed to eliminate the usual citizenship identifiers. That leaves the ruling class as the actual citizens. Voting doesn’t matter. What… Read more »

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Jay Dee

“…….The same is true in the political class. What’s remarkable is the near total lack of accomplishment outside of politics……” ———————————– Been screaming about that for at least 10 years. I’ll look up some of the local Dems who are running for local office here in California—— city council, board of supervisors, Assembly…..that sort of thing….Nearly every one has a similar resume, especially those 50 and under———— Involved w/ CALPIRG in college, perhaps. Stints of volunteering and interning at various activist or environmental organizations. Next step is assistant manager, then manager of one of those organizations. Local Donkey Party then… Read more »

jwm
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Jay Dee: Case in point. We had a young woman recently who wished to run for city council. She posted her campaign, including her “qualifications” on the local Next Door site. Graduate of Cal State LA. (bottom of the already laughable CSU system) major in Sociology, and Chicano studies. It took about four hours for some of the locals to turn up some seriously juicy anti-white shitposting on her Instagram account. Toast. But here is an encouraging side note. She was flamed pretty hard for her bigoted remarks, so, she deleted her account, and disappeared. As I followed the thread… Read more »

Penitent Man
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Penitent Man

It begins with little victories.

Stina
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Stina

This kind of is affected by what is meant by a middle class, right? In the past, they were the merchant class – they used their skills and individual trade to make money. As opposed to the ruling class, who used the work of serfs and higher order trade to make money. A democracy run by the middle class – has it ever even existed? Technically, our ruling class is considered middle class. Technically, Warren Buffet is middle class. But are they REALLY? What has existed is democracy being run by moneyed interests. The wealthier you are, the more influential.… Read more »

Severian
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The very idea of “right to rule” being linked to “cognitive ability” is a category error. The word “clever,” as applied to people, was an insult almost within living memory. There’s a certain level of brains needed to lead, yes, but leaders don’t need to be very much smarter than the average bear. It’s character that counts. Nothing could be “dumber” than passing out from heatstroke while dining at the regimental mess on the Northwest Frontier in full formal dress in high summer, but I’d take any all-but-illiterate redcoat sergeant-major over every single politician in the West right now.

Compsci
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Compsci

It would seem a matter of degrees. I would say that a Congress critter needs a bit of IQ and specific knowledge to say, sit on a Congressional committee to listen to folks testify wrt climate change and what we need to do about it and such. Right now, the numbers of people sitting on Congressional committees with little to no specific/useful knowledge is staggering. I don’t know what you call the average bear, but if it’s around IQ 100, then I’d say you are off by a standard deviation.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

IQ isn’t the problem in congress it’s their utter lack of character and being criminally inclined to astonishing degrees.

A higher IQ won’t fix that, you’d just end up with more high functioning criminals. We already have that on Wall Street and Silicon Valley.

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

Maxine Watters alone, walking through the halls of Congress as a representative, in her fake ghetto wig, is all you need to know about the current clown show environment. To expand on Groucho Marx, I refuse to belong to any club that would have Maxine Watters as a member. No good person can stay in Congress and stomach it for more than a couple terms. You have to accept it for what it is, a brothel for lobbyists, nothing more. Of course, in all the lobbying, the middle class are nowhere near the topic of conversation. The current state of… Read more »

UFO
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UFO

OT:

I clicked a link on the sidebar of your site titled “Refugee Resettlement Watch”

Unfortunately the page seems to be taken down. https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/

Anyways, just an FYI to Zman. Also, do you know if the site is back up elsewhere?

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LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Her site was deplatformed by WordPress. She is now refugeeresettlementwatch.org

Todd Ojala
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Good one.

Member

Meant to post this yesterday, but didn’t get around to it. Seems like you’re still thinking along the same lines. You wrote: “Either all men are equally capable of active participation is society or they are not. There is no middle ground. Democracy chooses the former and must relentlessly work to make it manifest.” Do you see “what comes next” as the West choosing the other side of this binary? For example, a Heinleinocracy (as in “Starship Troopers”), or rule by those who make some voluntary contribution to society. For those unfamiliar, in Heinlein’s case this voluntary action was military… Read more »

3g4me
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3g4me

Slightly off topic – you know, Zman, just as our political aesthetics appear to be stuck in the 18th century, so too are our landscape aesthetics. I took a class on the history of landscape design in college (purely for pleasure) and the American preference for a smooth, green lawn is directly drawn from 1700-1850 England. The whole idea of mimicking nature, albeit controlled, and an expanse of cool green surrounding one’s home. Where the climate is suitable that’s fine, I suppose, but I’ve always preferred nature in its natural form, and for gardening to reflect its human design. Think… Read more »

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ReturnOfBestGuest

You can thank the HOAs for that. “Victory Gardens” were a thing during the war and when I was a little kid during the PBS series of the same name.

ProUSA
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ProUSA

I retired from teaching. Now I’m bored. I know how to cook, wash cars, clean stuff, shoot guns decently.

I want to go to school to become a machinist. Don’t ask why.

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ReturnOfBestGuest

One of the more popular bloggers (back in the early days of the “blogosphere”) turned his talents to machining. 😉

Lineman
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Lineman

If you were in my area there is a company that will pay for your schooling if you give them some years after working for them…

ProUSA
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ProUSA

I will talk to some companies here then. I’d rather go to age 70 machining instead of making tomato sauce and delivering pizzas. Just planning ahead. thanks for the idea!

Member

Why not gun-smithing?

Penitent Man
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Penitent Man

This subject and yesterday’s bookend nicely. They both have bothered my thoughts all day. How to create a society that won’t devolve to the mean of what we have now and yet isn’t an oppressive dictatorship. Democracy naturally leads to mass franchise for those that have no rightful claim to steering the ship of state and the other end of the spectrum leads to all but a tiny few having no right to claim the helm. I know it’s a problem as old as man. I wish I didn’t care. But I do care about the future of Our People.… Read more »

Rogeru
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Rogeru

There’s no perfect system. The system matters less than the men who run it. Men will always fail in the long run.

As an aside, the Bill of Rights was a concession to the Antifederalists who were worried about a federal government running rough shod over the states’ sovereignty. The BoR, originally, only limited the federal government reserving those specific powers listed to the individual states. Or, in the context of your comment, reserving the duty of protecting “basic human dignity ” to the local government.

sheliak
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sheliak

The author is all over the place in this article. Too much cognitive dissonance here.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

C’mon dude, step up to the plate and make a specific criticism. We like discussion here. An insightful correction is always appreciated.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

Look around the political classes of the West and you will not find exceptional men. In fact, much of Europe is now run by frumpy middle-class women. What is remarkable about the ruling classes of the West is not their mediocrity, but their uniformity. I had a discussion w a friend a while back. He’s obsessed w the JQ and thinks the West is being murdered by Marxists, Jews, others and combinations thereof. I said what is happening is organic. And yes there are some very unappealing people involved, many of whom belong to his pet categories. But my point,… Read more »

Rogeru
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Rogeru

Nobody dies from AIDS, they die from other illnesses due to the AIDS virus having weakened their immune system. The West has full blown AIDs, jews/marxists/etc are the minor illnesses that are actually killing it.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

Decadence, a fundamental weakening of the culture, greed, selfishness, loss of sense of adventure, honor and integrity, are the ‘AIDS part’, the marxists etc ripping us apart are the ‘opportunistic infections part’.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

Walk around a college campus and you are surrounded by people who never met a risk they did not take. This part I dont get at all. In fact I think it is the other way around; I think think a main problem is that these ppl never had any reality checks, they’ve been pampered and protected all their lives. Even the ‘tough guys’. John Bolton, the king of chickenhawks, he dodged Vietnam. Imagine Churchill’s credibility, when he promised to fight Hitler on the beaches, to the bitter end, if Churchill had dodged all the myriad small wars of the… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

I didn’t understand that either, I figured Z meant “didn’t” take risks and got crossed up.

vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉
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You have critiques, not without flaws. Do you have solutions? Why yes; Year Zero. Again. But this Year Zero is grounded in reality esp HBD. So this Year Zero will work. I don’t agree the middle class was built to serve or that’s how the middle class came into existence, but in any case in America they’re armed, alert and will bow to no such scheme. I have no problem with philosophers waxing about an ideal or better society but tearing down the wall with no replacement is getting old. It’s as if upon reading Chesterson one still marches out… Read more »

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“in any case in America they’re armed, alert and will bow to no such scheme. ”

Nonsense, they do what they are told and like it.
Just look at the airports,

Abelard Lindsey
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Abelard Lindsey

The question for those who believe in authoritarianism is always “who will watch the watchmen”.

Abelard Lindsey
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Abelard Lindsey

The other problem with authoritarianism is who gets to be the authoritarian? Who decides who gets to be an “elite” and by what criteria? Say, I am a technical professional, or an entrepreneur, or business owner with an IQ of 136. With the outlying exceptions like the brainiacs working on warp drive (IQ 165) or professional athletes, I consider myself to be fully competitive with any other kind of human in nearly all meaningful endeavors. What in this universe makes you think that I would even dream of sucking up to any eilte class that did not include myself? Of… Read more »

sirlancelot
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sirlancelot

We have the government our elites want us to have. The legions of empty suits in DC are perfect foot soldiers for globohomo. The goyim are awakening and it must scare the crap out of them. That’s why they pushing all the lunacy , ie transgender, uncontrolled immigration, constant attacks against the president, etc. This country was founded by white men with white men sensibilities. We’re still here, but quickly being replaced. Shlomo is continuing to dictate what we say and do even in the face of our own extinction. Suspicions arise when I see attacks on the president from… Read more »

NSROYALIST
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“The fact is, a precondition for a middle-class is an elite that will impose order and discipline that allows for the growth of a middle-class. The result of this approach is to ensure the success of the application of the law. Z-Man blog. Yes yes yes, very well. An authoritarian power, then. But that’s where the problems begin. We can have a dictatorial power, a type of Caesarist, demagogic and populist, which leads to a kind of mega-socialism, and to despotism (see Philippe Fabry’s excellent book on Rome-which neglects, however, that the cause of this The accession of Caesarism was… Read more »