After close to a week of dithering, Jared Kushner allowed Trump to stage a publicity stunt, where he waddled out of the White House down to the church the looters had burned the other night. In front of the cameras, Trump held up a Bible and said some things. They said it symbolized national resilience to the mob violence that is engulfing the nation’s cities. In reality, it was the perfect image for a presidency that is nothing more than live action role playing.
Trump holding up a Bible is as ridiculous as Democrats talking about the Constitution and the rule of law. Trump is famously not religious. His life has been one of hedonism and self-regard. He does not attend services and breaks into hives whenever he has to speak about religion. There’s a good chance he was worried that he may be struck by lightning out there. It was the sort of highly choreographed political stunt that symbolizes everything that people hate about democracy.
That said, it will work with the plan-trusters. Scott Greer took to Twitter to announce that Trump saved his re-election campaign. Lots of his fellow plan-trusters seem to agree, at least for now. Way back in the election of 2016, Trump said “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters.” He took some grief for that at the time, but he was right. For his supporters, Trump is a vehicle through which they experience an alternative reality.
Under Trump, a new form of fantasy game has emerged. This new game is where Trump voters, and those adjacent, rush to social media in a crisis and start posting about “what Trump should do…” It’s followed by what is often a sensible suggestion, but one that will never happen. Then a long back and forth of various strategies about what he should do ensues. Sometimes Trump will goose this along with some tweets that are designed to encourage this form of role playing.
Of course, Trump never does anything. He’ll tweet out some outrage porn to the Left and make some vague threats, but otherwise he is all talk and no action. Right now, for example, he and President Kushner are trying to figure out how to win back the six black votes they were counting on this November. Now that “lowest black unemployment in history” has proven to be something less than the inspirational message they assumed, it is back to the drawing board.
In lieu of action, these internet fantasies fill the void left in these voter’s minds. They get to pretend that Trump will actually do something other than laugh at them. They look at Trump awkwardly holding a Bible in front of St. John’s Church and imagine it is a great moment where the country rallies around their hero. They get the same rush from the make believe as they would from the real. Trump pretending to do whatever it is he is promising is the same as Trump actually doing something.
In fact, they often believe it is real. Talk to a true-blue MAGA type and they will tell you Trump has clamped down on immigration and is now “draining the swamp.” If you point out the facts, they will call you a “libtard” and refuse to discuss it further. For example, many of these people not only think he is building the wall, but that it is already built, which why he no longer discuss it. The fantasy version of the Trump presidency is so fulfilling it has supplanted the real Trump presidency.
This is a form of false consciousness. Instead of workers unable to understand class reality and their own exploitation, it is white conservatives unable to process their diminished status in America. In the real world, they are at the bottom of the social hierarchy, slowly being eliminated from society. In the fantasy realm, they are still the top dogs. In the fantasy version of Trump, he is one of them, acting on behalf of their interests, when in reality, he is a tool of the ruling class.
An interesting off-shoot of this is that when you can get a Trump supporter to acknowledge that he has done nothing for them, they switch tracks. He stops being the God-Emperor and becomes Jimmy Stewart in Mr. Smith Goes To Washington. He is the sincere reformer being thwarted by the corrupt machine. In an instant, the main character in the fantasy goes from omnipotent leader to impotent victim. Trump fighting Washington is just another version of the fantasy.
Both sides of this fantasy have one thing in common. There is an unspoken, instinctive contempt for democracy. In the God-Emperor mode, Trump is issuing edicts and imposing his will on the nation. In the tragic hero version, the will of the people is thwarted by a corrupt system. In both versions, voting and debating, the core of democracy, have no role. One version is the hero slaying democracy and the other version is the hero being slain by democracy.
This form of false consciousness is not exclusive to Trump fans. His enemies now engage in their own fantasies. They imagine him as Orange Hitler and they carry on as if he really is a dictator. Further, they will convince themselves that Joe Biden is reversing all of Orange Hitler’s polices, once he is in the White House. Within days of Biden taking office, they will pretend Biden has swept aside all of the things they spent four years pretending Trump was doing.
The difference is that with the Left, they expect the fantasy to be made real and they get angry when it fails to happen. We saw this in the Obama years. They really did think he was the prophesied messiah, who would usher in a new era. As the reality of his administration became too hard to ignore, the Left got mad. When Trump won in 2016, they got super-agitated and have remained so ever since. The current round of riots are just a carryover from the disappointment of the Obama years.
For the normie right, anger and rioting are off the table, so they will continue to indulge in the fantasy game that is the Trump presidency. He will continue to monitor the situation and consider doing things. Maybe a symbolic executive order will be tossed in for effect. Meanwhile, his base will invent scenarios in which he drains the swamp and owns the libs. The less he does, the deeper the fantasy. Trump is the first virtual President, playing a role for the amusement of his voters.
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When I tried to explain to my wife last night that Trump looks weak and ineffective with the riots she countered that the states wouldn’t let him do anything. I explained further what he could do and she just wouldn’t get it. Dems bad.
I saw the future when minorities rule how it will be. That Mexi-sheriff in Texas siding with the crowd and shouting about we (blacks-hispanics) have been historically treated badly and how they need to fight whitey. The most illuminating scene I have seen in a while.
All politicians play at helplessness. It’s some toxic combination of refusing accountability and social cache via victim hood.
The pols running the show are now just victims too. Even police chiefs are getting in on the action. They all count on cover from the media and a public too stupid to figure out that they’ve been running the system for years and so are the source of “systemic” anything.
I’m more convinced that ever that we’ll see some nasty stuff in the near future. The Dems and the media pushing hard the racial injustice narrative. The GOP is terrified to push back even as riots are going on, much less if the Dems start passing racial injustice policies. It’s not hard to imagine what can be done to whites in the name of racial or environmental justice. What’s more, a good chunk of whites will welcome it as a means to redemption. The virus has shown how easily people can be cowed in the name of some public… Read more »
Unfortunately, most of our tribe won’t drop the nostalgia America fantasy until something like you’ve suggested happens. Our choice seems to have deteriorated into poison by the dropper or poison by the barrel. The quicker our people are force to drop the pretense the better our chances.
Until middle and upper-middle class whites both feel some pain and figure out that their POC preachers are distinguishing between Goodwhites and Badwhites, that we’re all just whites, it’s going to be an uphill battle.
But that’s been the case all along. However, I’m beginning to see how hard this is going to be. We’re going to lose friends and family members over this.
by then it will be too damn late. Look at South Africa as the example.
I saw John Rivers on Gab call it an “anti-white pogrom.”
And so it is.
To clarify:
An anti BadWhite pogrom.
If Goodwhites want to remove their genetics from the gene pool, let ‘em.
If the pathological altruism gene passes out of existence, that’s a plus for the 14 Words.
citizen , this short video is for you. it will lcear a lot up about the GOP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlKQbA2Dbqo
“We are not voting our way out of this” still applies. Trump’s effect has been to pull the cover off of the game for us to more easily see what is going on, but not to do much about it. That’s one for two, but one more than any other politician has offered up to us.
Trump will either bring the hammer down shortly on a lot of people and movements, or he will not. Either way, he is probably done by November, and destined to either go home or to be a placeholder for four more years.
We don’t know for sure what 2nd term Trump during a depression would be like vs 1st term Trump during a boom. No one can say with confidence that he would be a mere placeholder.
The response to the virus was my first hint that VERY BAD THINGS would continue to happen after the virus fizzled. Even 20 years ago if someone broached the topic of a “lockdown”, some intelligent, clean shaven men in generic off-the-rack suits would have appeared as if by magic. These men would have advanced degrees in things like mathematics, economics, and operations research. They would have sat down with all these governors and other pols and calmly explained that even if the worst models of the pandemic were correct (and the worst case scenarios almost never pan out) a few… Read more »
I figured the US would be on its way to failed state , Bugaloo or USSR adios by the 2030’s. Looks like the Wuhan flu basically compressed the collapse timeline on the end game.
Yeah, this thread has just convinced me to vote for Biden. let the good times roll! guess i’m and Accelerationist now. Come on in bois, the waters fine.
Well that certainly wasn’t my intention. In spite of everything I remain on Team Trump. I’d say there’s about a 25% chance at this point though that there won’t even be an election to worry about.
Link for the Mexi-sheriff shouting? I am slowly working on my wife as well.
Tread gently, my friend. I speak from sad experience. With loved ones, it’s better to go too slow than too fast.
I’ve heard this song and dance about what Trump could/should do, for as long as he’s been elected. Am not overly impressed. You wanted a Superman and you got a politician who continues to work within a framework of Constitutional precedent that has been established before him.
Keep asking for you authoritarian dictator, you’ll get him—but you won’t like it.
Authoritarian? I just want him to do his effing job. Something other than mean tweet.
Exactly .
As for an authoritarian as long as El Jefe is close enough to our guy I’m fine with it .
Right now it seems like we are getting a President great at a mean tweet sesh and looting via Kushner and not good at bringing the hammer down.
When will our pinochet arise? A couple of helecopter rides would have many salubrious effects! Kidding aside, the shift from the manufactured covid crisis to a hate whitey orgy stikes me an overplay of thier hand. We are in active humilation territory now. One can no longer operate within this system with dignity.
No, most of these posts assume he has authority not granted him in the Constitution. You want a Superman. You say he should do this or that and rarely if ever point to the Constitutional language or precedent that would allow such action. And even when such is done, no thought is given to the political ramifications of such. You’d be happy to see “action” which is either overturned in the courts, or brings about a successful impeachment. You’d settle for glorious defeat rather than incremental progress.
Most critics are just making themselves feel OK about their plan to not vote for him in the upcoming election.
To quibble with your point: Trump’s binding constraints are not the Constitution. It’s a mixture of his own faults, high ranking bureaucrats, Republican Senators, The People (and their opinions, especially low info potential voters).
Trump’s binding constraint is Jews.
If he wanted to ignore Kushner et al. he could. I don’t believe any of these theories about him being blackmailed by Mossad.
Exile I haven’t been around here for a while. Do you ever get that closed forum up and running? That’s a great idea.
When you and I can use our real names to have this discussion online, Comp, talk to me about how lucky we are to live in a Constitutional framework that respects precedents.
What we do here, has little to do with the topic of what Trump does and the Constitution and the precedents Trump decides to follow. Pseudo names are because of other people using such in aggressive manner, e.g., doxing, to the detriment of free expression. But that is an attack not directly prevented by the Constitution. As far as the government attacking a commenter, a false name gives them not one wit of problem. They can and most likely do know who each and everyone of us are on this forum. I’m also not so paranoid/scared as some… Read more »
As a person who had voted for a D his whole life until Trump I am fairly unique on this blog. Long story short I saw the 2016 election as the Flight 93 election per the famous essay. I know the liberal mind. “2016 is the Flight 93 election: charge the cockpit or you die. You may die anyway. You—or the leader of your party—may make it into the cockpit and not know how to fly or land the plane. There are no guarantees. Except one: if you don’t try, death is certain.” https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/digital/the-flight-93-election/ This is another extraordinarily excellent essay… Read more »
Small communities aren’t pathetic, especially if there are a lot of them. Furthermore, doing something that you know you can make work is far less pathetic than dreaming of something heroic that will never happen (or that will never work the way you think it will).
I’m curios: Why did you stick with the Democrats for so long?
Good questions. I did not mean imply that small communities are bad. I would certainly hope for a peaceful secession. Barring a quick divorce it just seems so much more grand, epic, and quick to saddle up the cavalry and charge.But losing which we surely would at this point is not a solution and I have no illusions about the glory of combat. Building small communities is very hard and time consuming is my baby whine. Why D for so long? I could write a book. For one thing I believed that they actually were for free speech, truth… Read more »
You are right — building a community is hard. Unless you are retired or very adventurous you have to stay where the jobs are, and settle for virtual communities. That is the situation I am in. On the plus side it is relatively easy to dispense with epic dreams so that you are left with (1) thinking small or (2) doing nothing as your only options. It is easy for me to choose between those options. You have an interesting story about leaving the left. You also have insight about the liberal hive mind that a majority of the… Read more »
Well, congradulations, very very few men change thier mind based upon evidence and reason. The early conditioning is hard to break. Sets men apart, and there is very few true men, from the animals.
Although I,’m mostly conservative, I’ve been a monthly Greenpeace supporter for a few years. Today I got one of their emails showing how socially conscious they are, including Black Lives Matter and all the other Liberal dreams of late. Finally, I realize their mission has strayed far from enivoronmental/ocean wildlife. Just look at their website. Well, my eyes have been opened. I am going to cancel my donating and tell them why I’m leaving if they ask. I guess it doesn’t fit their world-view that not all of their donors who cared about the envirionment appreciate share their other views,… Read more »
Among other affiliations you might rethink shopping at Target unless you want the Zman in this sun-dress in your daughters bathroom and Lowes just proudly announced their support for the rioters, so Home Depot it is.
Ex, I couldn’t agree more. When the 82nd airborn is stged to patrol washington , the shit is very real aand very bad
“I saw the 2016 election as the Flight 93 election”
In other words, total fantasy with no connection to reality.
clearly those groups have a historical grievance. But to act upon it is as illogical as to act upon religious hatreds going back to Thousand Years. A more interesting question would be to ask those people What kind of world they get when their enemy is finally gone.
He wants the governors to ask him for troops before he sends them.
The chaos in the streets is out in the open but this sort of behavior goes on every day in any school that is even 5% black/brown. Above 20% is a loss of control, more than half is literally worse than a zoo. This school is 20% white and 80% colored.
You don’t need to listen to the whole thing, 2 minutes will show you what happens in hundreds? thousands? of schools like this one every single day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SRCY8FqoyQ
I’m amazed that teachers put up with these environments at all. Hell of a red pill for these traditionally liberal idealists, at least fresh out of university.
I can’t believe she blurted out “hitler did nothing wrong” ther at the end.
Ironically, Mexican gangsters are better to have around than Mexican sheriffs. At least they protect their goddamn territory.
Conservatives are the strangest people: if a leader doesn’t implement your 976 point plan immediately you walk off the field in a huff and let the other team win by default. Leftists don’t act that way. They just want to move that needle to the left, bit by bit, a little every day. Remember gay rights? “We just want to get married.” Now you’ve got to bake that cake, suck that cock, and let your son be turned into a daughter. That’s what moving the needle does. Leftists play a long game and they’re good at it. … Read more »
Trump had the opportunity to move the country to the right, but failed, and the backlash will just move us further to the Left.
He truly is our Louis XVI. Recall that no one was talking about abolishing the French Monarchy until Louis tried to bolt the country and got caught. That’s when he lost the crown, and ultimately his head.
Failure moves the Overton Window the opposite direction, something the Q-Types would do well to learn.
Trump’s loading of the federal court system with conservative judges will change things for the better for a generation. That’s one positive thing off the top of my head. For detailed discussion of the positive things he’s done for immigration see https://www.numbersusa.com.
Dissidents reject the notion of being ruled by Kings in Black Robes.
Has Trump done anything on immigration that will prevent a Permanent Demographic Majority for Democrats in the next decade?
If you’re asking for the President to undo 60 years of stupidity in 4 years, you’re either a fool or a leftist attempting to demoralize us into just laying down and dying.
You seem to be new here, so let me fill you in: This is a Dissident Right outlet, run by a Dissident Right author. Neither this outlet’s proprietor nor most of us long-time commenters believe that a country based on the 1787 Constitution can be saved. Trump gave us some false hope, but we’re intellectually honest people and understand that it was never to be. As for this November? As Z said in Friday’s podcast “If Biden wins, things might be marginally worse, but I don’t think it makes a huge difference either way.” I’m not… Read more »
Finally an old-timer tells us what’s going on awound here, but where’s the manifesto?
You do realize there is no hiding from the war against whites in the coming decade.
You think it’s bad now, just wait until Fat Stacy is running things, it will be Zimbabwe 2. And since resistance is a foreign word among Dissident Whites I see a lot one way trips to the incinerator or quarry.
I couldn’t agree more about the Gap-Toothed Sheeboon, but it will be the NormieCons who are making those trips you mentioned.
Some of us have already spent the last three years hiding in plain sight, and have lots of practice at it.
So?
We won’t be in America after blatantly overt war on whites is declared (as opposed to just overt).
For the next little while, the left will continue to waste its time by sucking its own dick whilst simultaneously trying to bite it off. It can’t control anything that isn’t media or politics.
Start now and we might not be worth the trouble.
Ouch! Painful metaphor 🙂
Meme….maybe I’m overwrought today but as of this moment I am both rearranging the handsome deck chairs and quite aware the ship is going down. My BIG button is being bullied by the angry-eyed mulatto mafia bitches screaming reparations at us. See RWC below. As I can multi task, surviving to reach shore and building something new is paramount.
Thornton Wilder/The Skin of Our Teeth was right! Some things never change.
the problem is you think he’s trying to undo something? He’s not undoing anything he strengthening it. He tweets that he’s thinking about doing things but he never does it. Why? He doesn’t want to. Israel didn’t have to wait a week to get everything it wanted. Whites will wait forever.
sorry, but he’s not on our team. He never was. What’s more is that no politician or institution is. We are completely in our own.
He’s a long-time, frequent commenter. Disagree without being a dick.
Monk, keep reading. You’ll find Meme to be wiser than you think, albeit she brooks no excuses.
Dissidents may reject it, but it is the reality we live under. You can’t change the reality without dealing with it.
And how do you suggest dealing with it? By tweeting about “strongly considering” stuff?
The reality is that Trump is the last BadWhite who will have an opportunity to effect events for a long time. He may or may not prevail in November, but after he does leave the Ascendants will rule until they f**k up on an Allende-level.
Quite so, Meme, what it proves is that there are 3 things that matter in a democracy:
Demographics, demographics, and demographics.
Won’t matter a damn bit when, not if, the leftists get control again. They don’t care what judges say, if they don’t want to. They do what they want, and play by their own rules, which they make and they change whenever it suits them. Legality is a convenient fiction.
I agree that lefties do whatever they want, but one of the key ways they have done this is with lefty judges. It does make a difference. Your 2A rights will be gone if they get a majority on the Supreme Court.
You mean like how our First Amendment rights were tossed out by a Republican appointee?
Why would Trump’s judicial picks be any better than his cabinet picks?
That’s an interesting question. I often wonder what happened between Nov. 2016 and Jan. 2017. Especially as regards the ME. Trump went after the Saudis from 9/11 until his election. Then his 1st trip is to go dance with the Saudis and make nice. Doesn’t make sense.
Styx Maynard-Hammer’s sock account located.
NumbersUSA opposes using race or ethnicity as immigration criteria.
Stopped reading after that.
I’d agree with you if we were having this discussion in 2000. Now, it’s too late for moving the national needle a bit at time. We don’t have that time anymore. The demographic tide is rolling in and won’t be stopped.
You’re right, Leftists play the long game, and they won. That game is over. They will control the presidency within a decade and the House soon thereafter. That means they control the judiciary. The political game is over. The current game is trying to build a community that can defend itself from a hostile government and larger society.
Really? Have you checked the tweets coming out of the West Wing(Trump and Javanka)? Have you noticed who Trump chose as head of National Intelligence?
Without specifics Monk, let me just add to your spot on analysis that we—as a group—have let our virtues be used as a weapon against ourselves. Had we played by the rules set by our enemies, we’d not be in this calamitous end game.
So Trump is a fraud. Kushner is President. ZOG becomes more powerful.
But in November, what are we supposed to do? Vote for Biden/Abrams? Stay home?
I will vote for Trump(Kushner). ZOG is better than a black communist regime.
Exactly. WTF do people on this side, including this blogger want to do? Do they really “welll it’s all the same’ if we get Biden or Trump???? Biden and that hideous black creature from Georgia a heartbeat away from the presidency??? People who say this on our side are insane. The TRS/FTN crowd are a good example. They don’t seem to think things through.
The whole “Trump is no different, he such a disappointment …” schtick is tired and wahmenly.
Think about the last forty years. People voted for Reagan expecting big cuts to the welfare state, big cuts in spending and tax cuts. The welfare state got bigger, spending went up and taxes stayed the same, but were made simpler.
People voted for Bush expecting spending cut, conservative judges and a return to normalcy. Instead we got massive sending, forever wars and a surveillance state.
The point is, voting for the opposite of what is promised may be the winner after all.
I’ve thought that since Clinton beat Bush in 92. He did pretty much the opposite of what he campaigned on.
Z-Man, you have been on a hot streak since the beginning of the lock down. I am afraid your characterization of the Orange Man and his supporters is spot on. However, not to be in Trump’s defense, we should recognize that we are saddled with a two party and political binary system (except for a growing number of states like NJ which effectively are one party states).
I think that’s fair. I think if we had other options, people would not be inclined to fantasy. Where I live, people think the governor is a far right wing guy, when he is pretty much just a garden variety liberal. In other words, everyone pretends the guy is Pinochet.
Not to sound too off the charts and get off topic, but was Pinochet so terrible? He was certainly 100x better than “Fidel” or “Che”, heroes of the left. Until recently, Chile was the most successful Latin American country. (I have had this running argument with a left-wing friend for decades.)
we love pinochet, but the libs think him satan
Mi general
(h/t Saml Adams)
Pinochet was a lot closer to Cincinnatus than to Fidel or Che. If you want a modern comparison, closer to Franco of Spanish revolution fame.
The Left hate him because he set an example of the only force/process that could successfully defeat their utopian/socialist “democratic” power grab. Still holds true today.
If a Superman is to come along to correct our course, it will take such an individual as mentioned above.
you complain about reagan and taxes, which pissed me off no end .. especially his “saving” social security by raising that tax from 2% to 15%;
But when Cuomo the Elder was governor he did something even more egregious. he signed an income tax increase that was to be phased in over 4 years; when the fourth year came around he was running for re-election, so he delayed implementing the final increase.. he touted it as the biggest tax CUT ever! it was no such thing.
The greatest redemption arc would be to hang Bush jr. for war crimes.
Things would sort themselves out after that.
Of course, that’s a LARP fantasy too, but all too satisfying.
I am on the record (for what it’s worth) stating that in retrospect that Gore had win the first election.
That said, I do wish the eliminatory rhetoric would desist.
Chet – if all morons were to be hung, then how long for you, my dear?
I would miss your comments.
Call it the George Costanza strategy (for those familiar with the show)
opposite?
yes..or should I say no?
“My name is George. I’m unemployed and I live with my parents.”
Pretty woman, seductively: “I’m Victoria. Hi.”
Z-man, you are cherry picking Reagan’s agenda. He ran on more that the old welfare queen cliches. He also ran on strengthening the US military and reestablishing its morale—destroyed under Carter. He was also a Cold War warrior and reclaimed the field and took up the battle with the USSR. Won’t go into the economics picture, but that was as important in an economy with 13% inflation and growing. Point is, not all things could be done without complete control of Congress, he never had that. So compromise was in order. He wanted his 500 ship navy, Dem’s wanted… Read more »
How dare you, Z, pointout what has actually happened?
Seriously, this comment section, if you could do it, would deliver a hilariously predictable segmentation model.
Isn’t anyone going to assert what Eisenhower would have done?
Eisenhower federalized the national guard and used the 101st airborne to force black integration on state schools.
Copying this from JudgeDread on Gab (who is no fan of Trump):
Exactly. The fact that 50% of Americans would vote for a corrupt, lying, demented kiddy fiddler rather than an expert business man who is a patriot is bizarre. Trump is America’s best chance of survival.
The best I can say for Trump is that he’s the only option for buying us more time to prepare for what’s ahead. One way or another Trump is gone in 2024, and 20-to-1 odds that he’s replaced by a Dem that will make us all pine for the good ol’ Obama days. I’m sure a lot of folks here may vote for Trump, but it’s a matter of motive: 1) Vote for Trump because he’s a 3-D chess master, or 2) Vote for Trump because he shunts Stacey Abrams to 2024. As for me and my community, only… Read more »
Trump was always a rear guard action. The only thing that could have made Trump a real victory for our side is if he had demanded a moratorium on immigration (legal and illegal). But, of course, he didn’t because he’s a CivNat Boomer.
We’re not getting out of our predicament through traditional politics. That’s over.
Stacey Abrams sets me off like an M-80. Will vote for Trump or Felix the Cat or WTF if it pushes Angry Abrams or Angry Michelle back 4 years. Screw Trump accomplishing anything, and his horse too. Am so bored and done arguing over him. A few years out the stars might align for us to push back. Or not…will wait and see. Pushing now would be only kamikaze. Take care O Captain My Captain!
Yeah, I should just shut up and let the Trump supporters enjoy their remaining few months of Constitutional fantasy-land; that shiny, happy, indivisible Republic of E Pluribus Unum with liberty and justice for all. Frankly, and it’s just a hunch, I don’t think Trump’s reelection is in the cards. It’s just not worth arguing about, particularly since some of Trump’s supporters are potential allies in What Comes Next. But the MAGA hat-wearing set, many of whom are my acquaintances? They sure don’t seem prepared for What Comes Next. Biden is the perfect President for the leftists … it’ll be… Read more »
Trump will mean nothing to us after we leave America as we know it to form our own communities.
Voting is a joke and it’s likely that voting itself is inherently evil. Voting removes responsibility from the voters. As the world burns down around us voters look slack jawed as they mumble, ‘but I voted’.
Refuse to vote and regain your own personal responsibility. Until enough people realize voting is simply the act of giving away your own responsibility (and hence power) we will never find an actual solution for anything.
You are so smart that you are legitimately retarded. You are Rain Man.
Actually, what I am seeing is that Z is now attracting Bots to his comments section.
I am telling you peopke that we are.walking a fine line: Z does not have time to monitor his comments section for morons like Snow. It is.our duty to downvote.ir otherwise ostacize these.fools. Fools like Hun
Just vote bro it will solve everything
yes , bob
It is curious you did not mention Tucker Carlson because I feel certain you watched it, a slice of history with a epic 26 minute rant that he unleashed last night. I say this because you mentioned Kushner and it is the first time I have heard a talking head really unload on Jared like that. It was, in fact, one of the most truthful pieces of political speech I’ve heard in years and to be honest, how that guy still has a show on a major news network is a mystery to me. You CAN’T tell the people… Read more »
Tucker is going to get himself fired within a year. The window of acceptable opinion is shrinking by the hour. They’ll probably replace him with some blond bimbo who will go back to owning the libs.
The last exit was passed 4 years ago when trump passed a tax cut instead of an immigration halt. The end of the road barriers are approaching much sooner than I expected.
It’s surpising that he has lasted as long as he has.
The window of acceptable opinion is shrinking by the hour…
But, but, I was told that Trump was moving the Overton Window rightward!
I just watched that and I really have to say how frustrating it is to watch it. He shows video of blacks attacking various white people and talks about all the anti-white hatred espoused by both sides and then ends by saying America isn’t racist! He has bought the line that racism means white people being bigots against non-white people. Will his grandchildren being saying that as they are being killed?
When considering whether supporting Trump has any value and whether there is any hope for the United States (regardless of what you think of Tucker Carlson), watch the video linked by Apex Predator from approximately 3:30 to 8:00 minutes. Murder, brutal beatings, arson, and looting: All of this is happening publicly and in the open and government is unwilling and/or unable to stop it.
Not a big fan of Tucker, but this is frightening and should be seen by all Americans. I can understand why the Z-Man is upset with the Orange Man. What is particularly scary is the support given to the antifa and BLM radicals by the establishment. I open my Spotify today to listen to music and right in front of my face are messages supporting Black Lives Matter. I see pictures of 5th Avenue stores in NYC, many of whom probably support and contribute to BLM, with windows smashed. I see pictures of demonstrations in Newark without any social distancing supported by our governor who… Read more »
All true. And Trump is still the best president of my life (I’m 63). Think about that for a moment.
sadly true
My local police force kneeled in front of the Black Friday Shoppers. Thinking it might be time to abolish the cops like they supposedly want.
Just make sure their ridiculous pensions get abolished too.
I don’t know. The stroll down to the church after Trump relieved the DC mayor of her responsibilities and the Guard started using Blackhawk helicopters to scare the hell out of the rioters seemed pretty effective to me. A lot of this rioting is intended to bait Trump into “doing something”, so he’s damned if he does and he’s damned if he doesn’t. Meanwhile, the riots are running out of fuel. Like a wildfire blowing back over scorched earth, less fuel means less fire. They can’t go outside the commercial areas. If the rioters head into residential areas, they’re going… Read more »
The old range I used to shoot at popped up on the news this morning. Apparently Jaquarious and his friends tried to get in, failed and came back the next night. Not thinking in advance that the owner might be there. One ended up taking the ambient temperature challenge in the parking lot, courtesy of Rule .223. That will get around the ‘hood.
It is not so much that attacking suburban homes would meet with (possibly) armed resistance from the inhabitants, but that it would likely cause a radical shift in the optics. The rioters’ handlers can’t risk losing the support of WWSPs and NWL females.
It just isn’t going to happen. I lived in LA from ’92 – 94. They talked that same nonsense then. Mobs are based on group courage – get out of familiar territory, thin out the crowd because of distance, angry armed residents, suburban cops who are paid to protect residents – not by blue city mayors… that courage runs out very quickly and they scamper back to burn more of their own neighborhood.
Yeah, I agree with you. But the bloodshed would be epic, which is mainly why they won’t do it.
I dunno, Club Riot had scheduled a visit to a well-to-do hamlet outside the city and the hamlet responded by boarding up all the businesses on the strip and basically surrendering it to the rioters (though the plan was thwarted by a curfew and, if I had to guess, some key arrests). A different hamlet which was threatened just bumped up their police presence, but that location has horrible, horrible traffic issues so nothing came of it; not sure what Club Riot was thinking on that one.
Again, boarding up the businesses on the strip tells you people have insurance to replace the stuff inside. That is very different than Club Riot heading into a residential area with fire bombs. There are elements of the terrorist who are no doubt accusing their fellow rioters of lacking the appropriate convictions. But the smarter ones understand the problems of mass and the tactical advantage of people able to light up the streets and backyards signs they can see better from their second floor sniper nest. It would be a bloodbath.
What is most interesting to me is the real time shifting of the Overton window. It’s becoming so small that the Conservative Inc establishment is becoming indistinguishable from the left. Tucker Carlson understands this, he was calling out Niki Haley essentially demanding that the country experience pain. Same with Pence. I even saw Marco Rubio call out right wing agitators in these protests. It feels like we’re watching a breakdown of the theater play. We’re supposed to watch two sides play act and dislike each other. It ruins the experience when we see them behind the stage hanging out… Read more »
Ever watch Mystery Science Theater 3000? We’re all starring in a B movie even those guys couldn’t dream up
what you are seeing CW is the GOP laying the groundwork to join the dems in blaming the DR for what antifa did here and going after them . remember both parties work for the same people. Donors with agendas, not us
Oh, sh*t. You’re right, miforest.
There’s the saying that Republicans are Democrats from 10 years ago, give or take. So Republicans are entering their Obama years.
The entire country is a fantasy. I can’t wait for the worshipping of blacks that’s going to happen in the wake of this. Whites simply can’t come to grips with the reality of the situation and that the only path left to them is the one that liberal society says is completely off limits to them and that’s racial awareness and solidarity. They just won’t do it. I expect different degrees of burning to go on for the next decade as whites cling to their precious classical liberal ideals and prostrate themselves before their foreign conquerors.
Yeah it’s funny. People know about divide and conquer, but in America they think that means division between the races.
It obviously doesn’t matter to tptb that cities are burning over racial divisions. What keeps them up at night is race consciousness among whites. Trump’s sin of sins was accepting Pepe. Even if it was a cynical move, simply signaling that it’s OK to be white can’t be tolerated.
Have you not seen the kneeling and asking forgiveness of your new black masters?
This is going to be the new mask virtue signalling.
I have. What I mean is whites being divided against themselves is the issue. The kneelers aren’t saying they love blacks, they’re saying they hate whites and themselves for being white.
Boy, I hope black worship doesn’t get any worse than it is now or we will truly and irrevocably screwed. All we’ve heard day in and day out is how much pain and hurt the black coonmunity is in. Pain & hurt my ass – a sizable percentage just saw this as an opportunity to f things up more than they do naturally, on a regular basis, while at the same time grabbing a little bling. I saw two things today that were disturbing: one was a video on twatter of some blm jogger(admittedly well spoken) who runs up to… Read more »
And we thought #MeToo naggers were bad
I actually listened to a few sports stations, although I’m allergic to sports. They don’t have any games to talk about, so…
My gods. She-Man was insufferable, but Jogga Cripes will be intolerable.
The Great Negrification is at hand.
Why do CEOs, actors, sportsballers think that their virtue is relevant?
Trump is far from perfect but he’s smart not to take the bait the left is setting out right now. Using the active military or nationalizing Guard units would be a huge mistake – playing right into their trap.
Right now all this crap – the brutal city cops, the weak responses to rioting, the burning cities – all belong to blue mayors and governors. The minute Trump sends in the military, it all belongs to him.
Someone needs to take responsibility and restore order. It doesn’t matter who it “belongs” to, in order to have a functioning society and economy we need law enforcement. If liberal politicians think this is going to stop or burn itself or we somehow deserve it for racism he has the responsibility to step in and override them.
Why? Those cities were already non-functioning. Most with real riot problems are in blue states and still locked down hard due to the fake pandemic. Restore order and return everyone to house arrest?
Watch the seven hour(!) Youtube that Jim Lileks linked to yesterday. (TBH, I skimmed it). Just a local guy wandering the Minneapolis streets in real-time at night. The locals are not angry, not marching, no mention of Floyd George, they are just wandering around, opportunistically grabbing some Free Shit and watching their neighborhood burn. No energy there, just witnessing the moment. Taking selfies alongside a zombie National Guard soldier standing in front of a Humvee. My one take on the whole thing is that those people are simply lost joggers, not really knowing what to make of any of it,… Read more »
Yup. They and the Muslims in the EU are the dog that caught the car.
Nature has a little surprise for them.
Friends with names like Cholera.
They have no wypipo ditties like “ring around the ro-sey, pockets full of po-sie…”
Just some unfortunately collateral damage, like murdered Feds in Oakland. 🙁
I agree that Trump’s best course is to keep the military out of it and let the Blue pols take the credit they deserve 🙂
Why indeed? They made their bed, let them lay in it. Optics, baby.
This is the activation phase of anarcho-tyranny. We face it now, or our descendants live it forever.
Good lord. The country is transitioning to a slave state for whites and you are worried about optics and owning the issue.
It is not TV it is real. Get over this media is more real than life thing.
Hey, I just realized that everything that is happening is actually an argument against Universal basic income. I bet a lot of the people rioting right now are getting $600 a week plus an employment. Whomp whomp.
The cops can easily identify the looters, the smashers and the fire starters through facial recognition and cell phone data. There are cameras everywhere and everyone is carrying their own personal tracking device leaving their digital fingerprints everywhere they go. Finding and arresting the culprits is trivial. I have zero confidence this will be done. This is the anarcho part of anarcho-tyranny.
Say this for Trump, though, he’s obviously got a few competent people working for him. Designating Antifa as a terrorist organization was a great move. Invoke the Insurrection Act, grab a few dozen of Soros’ lily-white Finest, and put them up against the wall for inciting domestic insurrection (while letting the local yokel juries let the Diversity off with minor property crimes charges, if anything). Great optics, and nothing clarifies the mind quite so well as well-aimed gunfire. Plus a few less SJWs in the world, and that’s always a bonus. Hell, maybe one of them will roll on his… Read more »
I was mainly talking about the local police in each jurisdiction. But the feds could make examples of a few and send them to prison for decades. Really, I think prison is a better punishment with better “optics.” What I mean by that is it is one thing to give your life for a cause and be a martyr, it is quite another to be branded a terrorist and have yourself and your family shamed and humiliated and serving decades in prison. It is easier to face certain death than the other option for most people, I think. The… Read more »
Trump’s blustering and threatening to do this or that – or else has been a big disappointment. Especially since he’s taken more s*** in the last four years than anything I’ve ever seen. He gets torn a new one 24/7/365 no matter what he does/doesn’t do, says/doesn’t say. It really is amazing what he’s put up with. My fantasy is he just says f*** it bitchez LARP time is over, and goes full turbo dictator. But, unfortunately that’s all it is.
Release the Kracker
Fantasy will only detach from reality when the eviction/foreclosure notices start being issued. And the dumpster diving begins by the former (white) middle class. The American white middle class is the most used and naive people on earth. The world isn’t kind to the naive. Anyone watching a nature program, knows what happens to the naive fawn that can’t correctly process the world. This is the ultimate failure of white America, the inability to process danger and the precarious state of the world around them. A world where they’ve always had security, food, utilities, etc. Many illusions will be shattered… Read more »
But the thing is JR, whites were once favored by Darwin. Is why he was so successful. Something changed in his genome or his environment that has caused him to fall out of favor. Something in the environment or in the genome of our competitors is allowing them to out compete us.
The white man is favored by Darwin only in an environment of scarcity. The white man created the future, modified crops, vaccinations, medicine, refrigeration, even air conditioning. When he did that he removed the scarcity quotient thus causing the inferiors to explode in population. As this population of browns and blacks meet the upper limit of resource constraints, they will be put in check, but not before trying to pillage the white man. This was all described by Malthus in the 1790s.
Good answer, JR. Makes good sense. We are about to enter another age of scarcity so the theory would predict that when we do, we will see a resurgence of whites, unless their population falls below some threshold number and they become extinct before they can rebound.
This is why geography is important. It’ll never happen in a place like Georgia for example, where they’ve reached a critical mass. Atlanta may as well be the Congo. They don’t do well in cold environments. How many would even live in the north if the welfare and all of its heating subsidies were cut off. The future of the white man in North America is in the northern latitudes.
Like Minnesota? Canada is also becoming the white man’s grave. Scarcity, the struggle, yeah, that’s part of it, but there is also something defective in the white man’s psyche – the self loathing, the guilt, the submissiveness, the ethnomasochism. He seems to thrive best as the underdog, a place he is headed for!
Like the fruit flies in the big jar 🙁
“…changed in his genome or his environment…” Civilizations ARE ecosystems. This is literal assertion, not analogy. All of the social, political, and economic systems of the West co-evolved with our genome. We have allowed hostile foreigners to come into our civilizations and remake its systems to be more favorable to them, and less towards us. It’s as if there were an intelligent species living on Mars, well-adapted to the low temperate low pressure environment. Along come some Terrans from Earth to terraform Mars, making it higher temperature and pressure (like Terra) without consulting the Martians. The Martians do… Read more »
I wish I could give infinity upvotes. What’s happened with SARS and the Riots has distracted from the biggest heist and wealth transfer in history. It’s been 2008 on steroids times 1000. And yet no coverage in any mainstream media. Strange (just kidding). People will lose their homes and businesses. Their debt will be offloaded to us while their assets are transferred to the multinational corporations and too-big-to-fail banks.
I still have a soft spot for Trump. I kind of lean toward the tragic hero version, the guy who meant what he said but gets betrayed by people close to him. What Trump has shown me is that the current system can’t be rehabilitated. It will have to collapse, whether that be fast or slow. It took less than a year to completely neuter Trump. I’ll vote for him one mire time mostly out of nostalgia. 2016 had some magical energy and I will always look fondly on that period. After this election, I most likely will either not… Read more »
Not even close to tragic hero material. Just another self-serving lunkhead. In over his head from day one. Now a frightened old man.
Trump is neither the problem nor the solution. In a sane society, most citizens should be productive and carry their own weight. We shouldn’t be whining that government isn’t stepping in to solve every problem with federal nannyism. Local urban police are inept because of affirmative action hires (that’s a real problem), but mobilizing the army to kick rioter ass is stupid on steriods. Just get the fuck out of the way, and shotguns will put a stop to rioting in a heartbeat.
You can skip shoot #4 buck off the pavement and protesting with feet and ankles full of shot suddenly becomes a lot less fun.
I prefer a loud pump action like the Remington 870. First two rounds are rock salt, next two are bird shot, and the balance is 00 buck. If the idiots in front of you are still rioting after the bird shot rounds, they are probably on serious drugs and constitute a lethal threat which warrants using the 00 buck. And a Taurus Defender in a side holster with five .410 shot shells as a backup.
Less than lethal rounds are expensive, and I’ve seen the thought that they’re ultimately counter-productive, ie., if you’ve pulled your shotgun out to level it at someone you’re probably not thinking “thank goodness for less-than-lethal!”.
Less than lethal will help with the inevitable ‘wrongful death’ lawsuit at least.
Wow. Right off the bat, the first two comments are bitching about Zman not giving Trump enough credit. It really is a personality cult among Normie conservatives. Of course, it’s also a ridiculous anti- personality cult among the NeverTrumps, especially those who are coming from the right side of the aisle. Hardly anybody is able to actually just call balls and strikes when it comes to Trump. Among my normiecon friends it really is impossible to be even mildly critical of Trump without being accused of having supported Hillary Clinton in 2016. Last night they were all doing… Read more »
“But my normiecon friends, churchgoing Christians all, bought it.”
What are you offering to sell your normicon friends?
Just recently a comment here was upvoted by people who believed that “Q” had taken root in the hearts of minority communities. I don’t know what to make of any of it.
“Hardly anybody is able to actually just call balls and strikes when it comes to Trump” This is because arguments about Trump are proxies for other arguments. Most anti-Trump people on the right don’t want Trump to win re-election. They want things to get really bad really fast for whites so that a certain % of them wake up to our situation and stop putting hope into a politician. Most Trump fanatics want something, anything, concrete to latch on to. Trump at least occupies an elected office. Plus some of them benefit from views on taxes and energy regulation.… Read more »
Trump was always a showman, and the stunt last night was insanely good optics.
The problem is he is all showmanship, and the people in the shadows who can actually execute his rhetoric hate him. He only has himself to blame, since he hired them.
With Kushner and that pet rock brained wife of his having any sort of advisory role with Trump, we have no chance. He knows they are lefties but either he really is one too or just isn’t up to the task of thinking for himself. If so, for Gods sake bring Bannon back.
“bring Bannon back.”
pence retires
bannon named as VP
trump retires
bannon becomes prez
tucker carlson named as VP
nixon/agnew/ford/rockefeller
Tucker only looks good by comparison with his colleagues. Whenever he talks about race, inevitably he invites on a token to say what he cannot. Same thing with women and same with gays. This is the GOP of 25 years ago which all goes in the direction of where we are. Anyone willing to listen to Tucker will inevitably hear his bad opinion of Trump, for all the wrong reasons, for all the same reasons as the rest of the press. His criticisms of Trump are not our criticisms. They are identical to the NYT’s criticisms. If Trump were doing… Read more »
Whenever he talks about race, inevitably he invites on a token to say what he cannot. So on live TV he should just say n1ggers are the problem to millions of viewers vs. using a sock-puppet minority to convey the message for him, and thereby, having a job to return to the next day. Got it… anything else he should do to exit his job more rapidly? He is the closest thing we have to a DR ‘spokesperson’ so he chooses his words very carefully, one might even say masterfully, to dance on that razor edge between raw… Read more »
No, you moron. You can speak frankly and accurately about race issues without calling people n words. Are you really that dumb that you cannot understand this?
You are either a disingenuous traitor or you are stupid to comment on the issue.
I’m banned from your Supreme Dark Lord‘s VoxDay’s super awesome-o abode of sycophants where I noticed you are an active supplicant still, so I’m going to go with stupid/midwit/gamma for myself.
BTW: I upvote lots of your posts including other ones on today’s topic, but you are just wrong here. He is doing a pretty good job of tightrope walking these topics so we will have to agree to disagree.
Look, you came across very nasty. If that’s not the way you meant it, then forget about the name calling and accept my apologies. But my point still stands. Dancing around the issue has been failing for decades. The other side does not do this. Tucker showed video after video of mobs of blacks attacking white people. The whole thing is about race. Pretending it’s not is not helping. The other side is openly stating their hatred and contempt for white people. This is never going to stop if you cannot even acknowledge that it is happening. Tucker showed tweet… Read more »
Apex and Tars,
Glad you are sorting this out. I enjoy reading both of you whether I agree or not with your arguments. You are both on the same side, Gentlemen.
Finally! Somebody else gets negative numbers 🙂
He’s an employee. Every employee toes the company line or finds him/her/xir/them selves out on the pavement. Everyone that’s ever worked in corporate-land understands this.
Definitely. Like Tucker well enough, but he’s not “one of our guys.”
Bannon is a civic nationalist, he’s kosher-right. As he told the Norwegian media:
https://www.document.no/2019/05/09/bannon-spiste-aftenposten-til-frokost-og-resten-av-msm-til-lunsj/
Damn. Anti-semitism is my sport.
And for what it’s worth, I’ve started listening to Le Tuck.
C’mon, friend. Shake hands.
Bannon is a decent enough guy but he’s part of the system just a slightly dissident country clubber . Stuff like ethnic nationalism terrifies them. Its understandable, an economy where people like him can thrive needs to be open and have a lot of trade. An EN economy is closed to most outsiders, eschews most trade for doing it local and in some cases may not even allow vistors or tourism for long periods. If E wins its the end of the empire he still serves, the end of most globalism and a radically different social structure. No Boomer is… Read more »
This has been my single biggest criticism of Trump. Most of the people from the campaign are long gone and have been replaced by swamp creatures.
One thing he should do is move some of the departments far out of DC. Because the swamp is not just the government, it is the DC metro area. The swamp knows each other and their kids go to school together. It is one big holistic swamp. Moving things physically will break up that part of it.
Segregation now, segregation forever!
That simple physical move would do more to reform the Fortress than an hundred revolutions.
This is the Rotfront with smartphones.
From lockdown to curfew- covid was a beta test.
Flyers went out announcing ‘upcoming events’ in multiple cities.
Pallets of bricks and incendiaries were pre-placed.
Scripts for Party loyalist mayors were written ordering the cops to stand down.
Media booked AM radio on talk and sports shows to preach.
Antifa called BLM, said “text the flash mob, we got cover”,
And the balloon went up in time for the Friday night news dump.
Now they’re shooting cops, and going to turn Floyd Ferdinand’s funeral into a Steven Lawrence holiday, a national day of repentance.
“This is a form of false consciousness.”
Exactly. Will it last if the violence is not meant with a federal response, as Trump said? Probably.
The best symbol in my mind of how pathetic conservatism is manifests in law enforcement “taking a knee” with “protestors.” It is simultaneously vomit-inducing and hilarious.
Don’t you worry…those kneeling cops are going to roll hard and heavy on any suburban or rural YTs who get frisky and dust off some vibrant looters with their ARs.
YTs response at that time will determine if there is any liberty in his future or if he can plan on an eternity as a slave/catamite/dinner for America’s vibrant future people.
Kind of weird considering the cop ‘took a knee’ on George Floyd’s neck.
They were beating him up in the cop car, too.
These were two perps- one on parole, the other on ‘the payroll’- they knew each other, and the legbreaker took the opp to settle some minor score when he saw his old chum back doing his usual stupid.
If they were both black, we wouldn’t even know their names- they’d just be “another 49 dead this weekend in Dinduland”.
Meanwhile, there’s some lady in Texas ( where Floyd was in prison)- she remembers the home invasion, and is now thinking, “Karma’s a bitch, eh?”
I think it went well beyond settling a minor score. I think both were into something shady via the nightclub.
The cop either saw an opportunity to silence a guy who could rat on him or the criminal higher ups saw an opportunity to tie up an obvious loose end and ordered the hit.
Not sure at what point the other dark forces out there realized that the hit had the potential to foment riots and civil unrest. Maybe they offered Floyd’s family a huge payout and the guy went willingly, with martyrdom a bonus in the deal.
Its not real. He did not die. Its a staged photo op.
For the Left , Trump is Hitler . For some on the Right he is the good Tsar , battling rapacious boyars . Trump is a figurehead that the left can personalize as its enemy . They understand his words and rhetoric as actions , when all he offers his supporters are words , to deflect from the fact that actions speak louder then words . He is a diversion! Lenin formulated the problem as “ who , whom “ . Who is an insider and who is an outsider ? The rights and responsibilities of the in-group extend… Read more »
Way too cynical here, Trump actually has made a lot of changes, such a limiting legal immigration and yes, building the wall. Let the nignogs have their fun, after all it’s mostly Democrat areas that are in flames.
There’s nothing cynical about the realization that Trump doesn’t have the executive or intellectual gravitas to do anything meaningful. He craves flattery and he gets it from his sycophants. Worse, he fires anyone who is not a sycophant. Pretty easy to see the guy is an empty suit, far out of his depth. Another key point – Trump was top of the heap of the 2016 GOP candidate pool, coming on the heels of Bush, Romney, McCain. Could you agree that the GOP has an affinity for weak sisters? Sure, if our standard of excellence is “he’s not Hillary”… Read more »
You may be a touch too cynical, but mostly correct.
I know I was somewhat surprised at Trump getting the better of the GOP candidates in the debates, “how are they getting rolled by this guy?”. If Trump is an empty suit then the rest of the GOP exists as slightly denser air; cardboard cutouts would have put up more of a fight.
Not being hillary is nothing to be sneered at, i’ll take trump regardless of his faults over pretty much anybody else, he is sadly our last realistic shot.
The GOP didn’t think HClinton would Lise either.
Correct. And – this problem does not belong to Trump. It belongs to We The People now. Even the niggers up here in Canada are chimping out. The blacks have opted for The Law Of The Jungle rather than the Law Of The Land – and there is nothing Trump can do about that except start a civil war. Boys, we knew long ago that we aren’t going to vote our way out of what is coming. This problem was being created before most of the commenters here were born. What Trump did was not a PR stunt.… Read more »
don’t use bad language. it’s not helpful and very offputting agent smith
I must agree. Watch your language as such can produce nothing but backlash to this site. No one needs use such trigger words to express a point.
Okay Karen.
John Smith didn’t do anything wrong other than tell the absolute truth.
In any case, don’t speech police. Its no different than cucking.
The exception is advocacy of illegal acts and I’m not seeing that here at least for Americans.
Calling it “speech policing” is hyperbolic. I’d prefer to think of it as reminding people that saying “NIGGER” all of the time is bad for optics and scares away fence-sitters. What benefit does such language confer?
I’m with MIForest on this one.
We need to be better than caved-in, low IQ mouth-breathers.
”Jogger” would have gotten the same point across and been funnier.
I’ve just spent the past three nights on my rooftop. I live a stone’s throw from Second City Comedy in Chicago. thousands of rioters were within shouting distance. I have been armed with semi-auto rifle, pistol and fire extinguishers. My wife is petrified. My neighborhood is entombed in plywood and nothing is open. Helicopters are overhead continuously and I hope they don’t shoot me.
At this time, I could give a whiff whether somebody here expresses himself with potty words. The mayor of my fine city uses them against the President. Let rip.
Think beyond the chaos. Riots will disperse, words will remain. Not everyone who’s “language policing” is a schoolmarm.
And you make sure to kill everyone who threatens your family. Joggers who survive such encounters only grow more bold.
Exactly WTF is that racoon you people elected there.
Homer, he is pandering to India because he is going to increase legal immigration by 500% with a new ‘NAFTA’ with them if he gets re-elected in order to provide cheap labour to the tech industry and take good paying jobs away from whites. he will also provide amnesty for all the illegals and then will tour america reminding everyone that it is always Republicans who provide amnesty to people who enter the country illegally. He’ll be right about that. He has exacerbated the situation. he has done nothing about legal or illegal immigration and has done nothing about foreign… Read more »
Cheap labor. Isn’t that the way we got into this mess to begin with from about 1619 to 1860?
Nothing is more costly than cheap labour.
Homer, has Trump built any “new” wall that wasn’t just replacing existing wall with new wall that can be cut through with tools available at Home Depot?
If he has, I’d like to know.
Then you need to read more. Couple of weeks ago, there was a celebration of the first 100 miles of “new” wall *built* in just this sector. Had the ICE Sec (acting) attending. There are currently lawsuits attempting to halt more building in this sector because they claim construction technique is blowing up sacred artifacts. The new, faster, technique is to excavate foundation with explosives and set the fence in ground on the rubble. I’m not an engineer, but the description I heard sounded good.
Trump signed the Cromnibus that prevented him from using any of the taxpayer-funded prototypes in building the wall. Then he signed another Cromnibus that gave border counties veto power over any barrier being built. His DOJ sued the “We Build the Wall” people, temporarily preventing them from building until some judge intervened.
And then Trump declared a national emergency and shifted $$$B’s to the border wall. So what’s your point. He got the money. The first bills were necessary because he wanted military funding increases. Those came first, then he kicked the Dem’s in the balls and laughed. Don’t cherry pick your argument’s data and please be complete, not one sided. This isn’t a HS debate.
Based on a glance at latest gov’t stats: https://tinyurl.com/yb6j9r7h the only immigration category that has declined during the Trump admin has been refugees (and that not by much.) Every other category is up. Most disheartening is the issuance of discretionary work permits to border-jumpers https://tinyurl.com/wqyvyjx contra 8 U.S.C. §1158(d)(2). In the hundreds of thousands. Way higher than Obama.
Those stats end in 2018. The beginning of the longest stretch of boom times in the States and the final defeat of Dem challenges to the border enforce and declaration of emergency. Looking back at this table: https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2018/table33 You will see the trend downward, even in Obama years. What the old stat’s won’t show is the effect of MX arm twisting to keep folks away from border and in MX. There has been news reports here, with pictures, of well over 2K Africans—yes, Africans—rioting in MX because they want to approach the border to claim asylum, but the… Read more »
There’s a lag-time on all stats issued by the gov. Part of it due to fiscal v. calendar year, and part of it due to collecting and assembling data takes time. So there’s always going to be a lag. A fiscal year lag is normal if you look at previous years.
Dude, border crossings in April of this virus year are higher than the April after Trump took office. I was once as you are now, believe me I’m sympathetic.
Also a lag, but this includes an estimate on net migration for 2019: https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2019/12/net-international-migration-projected-to-fall-lowest-levels-this-decade.html The recent decline is driven mostly by people moving back to PR, which mostly isn’t due to Trump policies. On the other hand, the very tight labor market (before corona) draws in more than there otherwise would have been, reducing the downward trend, and making his policies appear weaker. It is very difficult to isolate the impact of a set of policies on immigration. In the fog of incomplete data and confounding variables people believe what they want to believe. What matters to me… Read more »
The problem with Trump is that he’s a big talker without the action to back it up. Why he dithered for a week letting these blue state mayors and governors do nothing to stop what is now an insurrection is beyond me. He still hasn’t invoked the Insurrection Act and sent in the troops to break up what is no longer a protest, but a rebellion. I say unleash the 101st Airborne, A-10s, AH-64 Apaches and AC-130 Specters on the rioters. The one thing I wonder about these blue state officials is how they can justify throwing the book at… Read more »
It’s been said before here: the difference between Candidate Trump and President Trump is like the difference between Night and Day. Why is that? What happened? What changed? It will be at least interesting to hear all your theories (spare me the “Q,” though.)
Trump is not a politician. Simple as that. He’s a successful businessman (leave the specifics for now) who is used to being the boss and being surrounded by “yes” men. He assumed when he said jump, all those in his new political circle would reply, how high? But this is politics not business and election to the highest office in the land did not make him absolute monarch. He was beset inside and out with swamp folk and out of his element. We wanted a non-politician and we got one. But learning on the job is not a good… Read more »
In our democracy, they let you vote for what you consider the lessor of two evils. Many picked Mrs. Clinton as the most evil bitch ever to be seen on the national stage and so voted Trump.
The pity is that so many think the system really listens to them and that politics can possibly work in their favor.
If Trump were really in charge there would be troops in the streets killing the rioters. No rubber bullets but real bullets and flame throwers. As president I would damn sure give everyone a spectacle.
But what would
Karenmommy say to see her little snowflake lit up like a Roman Candle?I suppose I should care about the words of a Karen mommy, but I know I would not give a damn. When a kid joins an insurrection then the kid is in a war.
Speaking of Karen, where is she? While just a couple of weeks ago she was shrieking, wagging her finger, and scolding mothers taking their kids to the park, people trying to enjoy a day at the beach, or peacefully protesting for their constitutional rights. Weren’t all those violators of social distancing “going to kill us all”?
It’s hilarious. My business partner, for whom I have a great deal of respect, gets downright tearful when talking about DT. Thinks the man is the living, breathing embodiment of all that is good in America and through whose efforts alone the economy is “booming”. (Up until two months ago that is…). It’s impossible have a logical conversation with him. I try and point out how Trump really hasn’t done anything while in office but he refuses to listen. I think 90% of his passion for the Prez is just despising the other side. And who can blame… Read more »
Fear. It is one of the most powerful motivators to get people to either embrace a lie or avoid the truth becoming almost incapable of processing it. I noticed this with people in my life, when I try to red pill them if i am not careful some will say it literally puts their stomachs in knots. Thats for stuff I consider mild stuff you can see in the news if youre looking. I notice a similar phenomenon with active shooter events. When the event begins people will often be upset because someone is setting off fireworks, or… Read more »
“the alt right is just bio leninism for whites which is why it can never accomplish what it wants: theres not enough bio in their leninism.”
It is!
It’s Nature’s way.
Not enough bio is our strength and our weakness. So well put.
”the economy is capitalism and capitalism is the source of all of our problems. Well, that and a certain group.”
Markets and private property are good. These aren’t capitalism. Capital is the problem, which you said as much. Debt and the money men, keeping prices high, making it near impossible for regular people to get in the game without getting into debt slavery.
If not for Marx, economic populism wouldn’t be as difficult to communicate.
Trump understood in 2016 that he wasn’t elected because of the economy. This is a post election lie. Trump was voted in because people were tired of everything. The forever wars, the mass migration, ISIS and what had been near monthly black riots in cities across the country. He let a bunch of wormtounges into his head that it was the economy and black and Mestizo unemployment numbers would make or break his presidency. It is all a lie. If Trump would just get rid of these people and follow his own instincts, he would be sailing into an effortless… Read more »
Trump is the president we need! A place holder who tweets.The only way to kill the dueling conservative fantasies about Trump saving and defending legacy America is to let the rulers and their feral mobs run wild until the scales finally fall from the eyes of conservative America. Half measures will only reinforce and give those fantasies a second wind. Better to let things bottom out now than to breathe life back into the system and allow it to limp along for another decade. Let’s bottom out and await the rise of Pres. Stacy Abrams…then maybe nostalgia America will finally… Read more »
Yesterday, someone said to me ” what level of Jumanji are we in now?”
Jengaaaa!!
Okay, but without a better plan, bitching and groaning about Trump is an even bigger LARP, and the people who engage in it are even more useless.
I covered this. You’re just calling me a libtard and running away.
No, I’m calling you useless until you have a better plan. We’ve hit the limit of the practical utility of bitching and groaning about how the world ain’t fair and isn’t handing us what we want on a platter. Complainers bring nothing useful to the table at this point, and despair is a sin for a reason. We have serious, hard work to do, and wallowing in edgy nihilism is a waste of time.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
Okay boomer.
Even boomers want to know how to be an effective dissident and to what end. If Trumps not the answer, nor Dems, nor anarchy, nor ethnostates, then what is?
The slow grind of building our own communities. I’ve written about it a ton. Z has talked about it a ton.
citien, good suggestion. it will also improve your life.
So what happens when we build our own communities and a vindictive leftist fedgov and their handmaidens in the media decide that our project is illegitimate? Legislation is passed to impose diversity upon the ever dwindling number of conservative white enclaves via open borders, federal housing dictates, shithole refugee resettlement, mandatory community racial redistribution, federal hate speech legislation, a gutting of the second amendment, and a hundred more dystopian possibilities the white hating left has considered. Of course, they will be willingly assisted and encouraged by the thirty to forty percent of delusional whites that sympathize with the nationwide chimp… Read more »
Bernd, Yep, all that’s true. We’ve got a lot stacked against us. But let’s not forget that our opponents aren’t Gods. They really aren’t that bright. Also, they are simply wrong about how the world works. That’s matters. The more than run the system, the worse the system gets. A little over a hundred years ago, whites dominated the world and were proud of themselves and their past. Asians – outside of Japan – were a defeated people. Muslims were a mess. Africans were, well, Africans. Israel was still just a dream for Jews. My point is… Read more »
Hubris. White Europeans conquered the world and perhaps, made the fatal mistake that non-Whites would adopt our culture’s values. Except for some of the Asian nations, by and large that expectation has failed. As Z often notes, in so many words, is that the West having noted the failure of nearly all these ideals of equality, is now well on the way to deny reality and punish those who resist the official orthodoxy.
As CSC notes you are correct on every point. Every point. But other than watch Rome burn while sitting in your nice house watching Netflix or ingesting opioids in your trailer park what are you going to do? They want to kill us. We only die once so why not die well on our terms. On the “bright” side your national debt observation is on the money as the kids say. But if you think the US will become a ward of anyone you might rethink that. We don’t spend more on military than the next 10 countries… Read more »
Armed rebellion
Armed rebellion now is worse than suicide. We need to consolidate our position and focus on living our lives in peace, prepping for the worst in the meantime.
Are you a glowie?
Jesus Christ – you’re 53 years old and you’re still reacting to criticism by rebelling against your Boomer parents? No wonder you have nothing valuable to offer.
I certianly hope you do read a little of what jesus had to sy AD
Jesus died a slow horrible death on a cross
If you are a believer this was awesome for many good reasons but as for , the rest of us non believers ?
We want to win without doing the Jewish Martyrdom thing thanks.
Subtle as serpents has its place but sometimes snek needs to bit too.
You are even stupider than Hun and these other commenters I occassionaly slap around. How the hell did Americans ever become so rich? Hint: It weren’t brains. Even Z would.need to concede this.
Boomers actually got stuff done unlike us Gen X. It was mostly the wrong stuff but still. Hell these rioters actually get stuff done. Again its the wrong stuff but still. I don’t expect this kind of thing from Conservatives nor advocate it but I’m with Anti Dem. We are so focused on our families and selves actually building something bigger, talking to neighbors seems daunting Now Snohomish had the right idea, the city managed to pull 1000 militia the other day and prevent any looting. Till the rest of us get there, let me ask you this.? Are you… Read more »
Agent AD, don’t overplay it , it will make people untrusting of you.
AD has been around a long time than you have pal.
Worrying about Feds under every bed is useless anyway. Understand they are out there and find a way to do what you must.
he types to fast to be older than me .
Look, there are no easy, quick answers. Just accept it. If you are looking for Superman and Z-man is not it—look elsewhere. We sleepwalked into this situation going on three generations now. You expect marching orders tomorrow? Z-man does his part in focusing folks. That is an immense contribution to the cause if nothing else.
Take a breath, there are lots of fellow posters here equally frustrated.
This is just more kosher-sandwich BS, Anti-Dem.
This site has hundreds of posts and comments and pods covering “What We Must Do” – starting with “stop believing in the GOP or voting your way out of this.”
You’re coping and deflecting, or you’re shilling. This is not a good faith criticism either way.
Lead, follow or get out of the way. I need to take time to absorb the profundity of you comment. Bear with me.
Ok. I’m ok now. I’ve recovered my equilibrium.
AntiDem – where are you leading to. Are you sure the path you are walking isn’t over the edge of.a cliff? Seems a bit foggy out there to me. That orange glow you’re following…I’m not sure.
1: Redpill your family.
2: Gtfo into the woods or a rural area with other like-minded people.
3: In the meantime, stop trying to stick it to the left, and don’t go on public crusades for the right.
Z’s talked about these things before. Sounds like a plan to me.
He isn’t calling you a libtard or running away. He is pointing to a serious problem with the right. I am just as guilty of being long on complaints and short on solutions. We will have to get around to addressing this problem at some point. Here’s my plan when it comes to voting. Vote for the most right wing candidate in the primary, the least worst in the general, have ZERO expectations (then you won’t get frustrated later). Get off work in the middle of the day so you don’t have to stand in line for too long. Of… Read more »
This has been explained a million times. Wasting time on long detailed agendas is stupid. The only thing that matters right now is to a) waking up as many whites as possible to the demographic reality and b) getting them thinking a white first. The people demanding five year plans and 85-point agendas are trying to distract people from what is important.
Where’s Curt Dolittle to give us 10,000 words of verbal diarrhea when we need him?
I don’t know Z. I’m keeping my powder dry until I see what Eric Cantor thinks of all this.
Amirite Henry?
As a sailor I learned the value of bitching … if you listen and penetrate the shrouded truths, quite often you’ll discover your blind spots. A good leader also recognizes that whenever confronted with a crisis, look for solutions in increasing concentric circles around YOUR desk. Another life-lesson … my experience is that bitching can lead to constructive brain-storming, problem-solving. Don’t forget our 18th century revolution began with bitch-sessions in the local tavern. It’s not useless to bitch and groan if that leads to an understanding that reliance on Trump (or any governmental stooge) is a fools errand. And… Read more »
Man this post has brought out a surprising amount of butthurt. I didnt think people who knew about this blog also were so on board the trump train.
Learning that we ain’t voting our way out of this will be a hard won knowledge.
There’s a lot of newbies here, no doubt brought in by Z being one of the few to speak realistically about Corona-Chan.
Yep. That’s how I got here.
Yup. Good observation.
I;m not but the Dissident Right has nothing to offer whites. It’s a empty can with a dew rocks in it.
Seriously I can’t point alienated whites to a data even a 1 page flyer that explainjs what the dissident right is,what it stands for and what it’s goals are.
The DR big thinkers had years to get their shit organized and do out reach and they did squat
We’re mostly all hat and no cattle.
Theres a few reasons for that. One is the DR has consistently attracted low status whites which has meant a lot of people more interested cooky costumes than practical organizing. Second, imo a lot of left wingers came over hoping to carve out an alternate power niche and have been and continue to be death spiraling into nonsense ideologies and doomed strategies about what will fix things. There really is no solid dissident right. Or there is to the extent that you are dissident right. If youre waiting for a movement to come back and set things right it… Read more »
<i>I can’t point alienated whites to a data even a 1 page flyer that explainjs what the dissident right is,what it stands for and what it’s goals are.</i>
I can give it to you in one word: Ethno-nationalism.
It’s really that simple.
Ireland for the Irish!
Some of us are missing the point. I understand the psychological need for some road “map” to follow. Lord knows I’ve asked for one and never was satisfied. That is not happening here and frustration builds. Here’s the way it is folks: Z-man is not your cartographer! You are all your own cartographers. Z-man is your damn guide, pointing out the landmarks on your journey through society. It’s your job to note them and draw your own map! In the discussions here people interact with each other and exchange/critique their partial maps. Eventually improving their end product.… Read more »
Also, let’s shoot the bear before we sell the pelt. There’ll be plenty of time to hash out the politics once we’ve defeated globohomo.
Hang together or hang separately. Your road map as vs the road map will end up getting you smashed by the larger mob of guys willing to hold their nose on things they don’t like and follow In order to facilitate a win , figure out the least you will except , make sure there is nothing that would cause betrayal and work together. It was bad enough the original US had to accept slavery. We can do better. If we can’t than let it burn , tribe up and take power in a smaller homogeneous polity It won’t be… Read more »
Nailed it Comp. Z-man is not your cartographer! You are all your own cartographers. It has taken me a few months to realize, with a few boys here in the comments, that the Shooting House Rules apply here, too. No one is coming Everything is your responsibility Save who needs saving Kill who needs killing A recent long form essay on Jacksonian roots and it’s current state reminded me that my people share deep communal roots that appear to collect and concentrate them when needed. To heap on Zman’s point, system-wide plans and centralization are the enemy at this point.… Read more »
Who are the “DR big thinkers” again? You’ve read, but ignored what Z has to say on this topic, but you post anyhow? Why?
RWC’s riding his big black-pill cow today. Try asking him what his plan for getting our shit together is. He can’t be bothered to put together his own 1 page plan for anything. I have yet to see one coherent actionable paragraph in the year-ish he’s been doom-posting (and hope-posting and fed-posting and a dozen other kinds of posting depending on what’s on sale at the local Liquor Barn).
That’s the problem our side has no alternative to offer white Americans.
Trump 2016, for whatever flaws it had, at least offered BadWhites an alternative.
Trump 2020 is just a Breitbart-driven mess of Civic Nationalism with zero appeal to non-BoomerCons.
We have a well defined alternative but first the white empty hope in some sort of civic nationalism has to immolate itself. When that happens whites will have their public Road-to-Damascus moment and finally drop all of the wishful thinking that goes into “if they act like us they can be like us” universal brotherhood of man under god and constitution delusion. Then comes separation and removal. Then reforming and/or building institutions that serve all of white society. This will require reforming politics so that it serves the needs of all groups of whites with give and take, with reciprocity… Read more »
“Then comes separation and removal. “ And in between Separation and Removal is a long road of violent ugly. I hesitate to call it civil war because it won’ t be as simply clear cut as two warring factions. Police state and skirmishes. We shall wait and see the forms this come-apart will take. How Lenin and Stalin planned is not us. We already live in a surveillance state so our planning and upgrades will look different. Any type of grouping up will be met by brutality and violence. Last night, Antifa threatened on Facebook to come to the Salt… Read more »
Glad to hear you daughter is okay. The corridor along Hwy 4 is unrecognizable from what it even was 10 years ago. The last time I was in Brentwood I was surprised by all the blacks I saw. Section 8? Contra Costa Co. was already lost when you left. Most of the whites left in the entire Bay Area are either bugmen in their soul or bugmen forced by circumstance. I left in December. You are right, things will go from ugly to very ugly. But we can make things a lot easier on ourselves if we let Civnatism… Read more »
Rwc, people around here don’t like to here it, but you make a point. We need to offer whites an alternative. However, you know that we can’t at the moment. We can only do the small things right now. Finding each other IRL and getting small groups together that quietly work for our community. We need to build a foundation so that when things get worse, and they will, whites have groups to join. I’ll be the first to admit, the odds are against us. I’ll also admit that we’re starting at the very bottom. But what exactly… Read more »
Afraid you misread my missive. I agree with you. I watched my Trot parents chase unicorns and grow into miserable hollow old sots. Youngers hate to hear that there is no way forward at the moment because youth is the principle of action. And I’m not defending Trump. I’m old enough to have learned when there is no clear way forward, just breathe. Be still. Quit flailing around. Listen, particularly inside. You will know. You will know when the wave is right and time to shoot the curl. Options and doors will open up. In the future, what has not… Read more »
You are a wise woman RFF.
Ha! Tell that to my husband!
The better plan is to accept that we’re not voting our way out of this. The better plan is to start finding each other IRL, then form groups that help the general community (but are really geared to help whites), find more of us through these groups, start forming groups that push for equality – not white identity, just against whites getting discriminated against, those groups slowly morph into white advocacy groups and away we go. There’s an actual plan. Will it take time? Yes. Is it grunt work? Yes. Will it actually work? Don’t know. But it’s better… Read more »
The DR wil be politically powerless until we can offer Beltway jobs, and everything’s designed to prevent that.
It’s not bitching… it’s called brainstorming.
I can offer Beltway jobs. It’s picking up trash along the beltway, but it is a beltway job!
Yeah, but that orange jumpsuit is so gauche.
Maybe I can accessorize with shackles?
Accessories are the key to fashion success!
Huge gold chains go well with the orange jumpsuit.
So when does the Breitbart crowd have their When Prophecy Fails moment?
November, perhaps?
I love this site because Z see’s things a few steps ahead but on this point I don’t agree. I wish Trump would be more forceful, I wish he’d build the damn wall…christ I wish he’d channel Pat Buchanan an lay out why having a population of worthless taxpayer funded minorities is bad for the business of America, but its not happening. He’s leaving Afghanistan, he’s identified the majority of the lefties in the media for who they are, he’s called out all our enemies foreign and domestic. Its not a bad thing. Having a piece of shit like Biden… Read more »
‘Saving the country’ is the wrong metric to use in judging Trump. The 1965 Hart-Cellar Act doomed our country. There was never any chance that Trump was going to save it starting in 2016. While the country as a European state has been murdered and cannot be saved, the American nations within can be. Whether he is intending to or not, Trump is preconditioning the battlefields of the future by changing perceptions. He has done a great job of baiting our enemies into showing their true faces and delegitimizing their power structures (media, federal police, etc) and upending their “rape… Read more »
I see Trump as throwing a few hurdles in front of a few of our enemies running towards us. Nothing more … also *nothing less*.
You are absolutely correct about putting aside any dream one might have for a savior.
Horace: The 65 Immigration Act was a mortal blow that was killing us slowly. But then Ronald Reagan signed the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act. That sped up the decline by about 30 years. Put it on steroids if you will.
There are two problems as I see it. The first is the “I feared for my life” defense by the cops. Utter those magic words and they are guaranteed to get off, no matter what the circumstances are. This defense has been backed up by the Supreme Court. Although, I’m not sure if the cop could claim that in the Minnesota event. Which brings me to my second point…the militarization of the police. Not only are they starting to look like the army with all the body armor, weapons, armored vehicles, etc, they have been hiring ex-military personnel who bring… Read more »
Funny how “fearing for my life” is NOT an excuse for any breach of discipline in the military. I hope the cop worship is ending.
I, for one, have had it with the cops. From personal experience. The MAJORITY are thugs with badges.
How many of the cops have PTSD from the sandbox?
Who gives a fuck? Don’t sign up if you know you can’t hack it. And it doesn’t give you a right to act like a sociopath against unarmed civvies once you get back and strap on a badge. Not following what your point is here…
I don’t know where you live, but in MA the cops (Urban and Staties) have been the enforcement arm of organized crime since forever. The local guys in the ‘burbs seem to do their jobs, though.
What disappoints me is how weak he’s proving to be. He’s allowed cities to burn and society to be locked down. In the last 3 months!
The thing is, he used to have fight in him. Where did it go?
if whites had rioted he would have wiped all the protesters out in 24 hours.
Maybe, maybe not. He’s still the same guy who once said that some Charlottesville protestors were fine people. That was off script.
Riots would obviously be a different matter, but does anyone seriously think whites would riot right now? Otoh Tucker Carlson talking civil disobedience says things might be changing.
What did Tucker Carlson say about civil disobedience?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/U1y6W5fIBShO/
One good thing the riots do is show TV watchers who is actually doing the rioting, shooting, looting, breaking and burning.
He was always complicit in the plan. Trump is a Judas goat and always was.
He goes on and on about minorities and for some reason everyone thinks he the last gasp of white America.
He is as much a part of this transition to a new South Africa as everyone else.
I think he buckled after Charlottesville, and if he felt public opinion shifted the other way he’d change his tune. He’s a politician. Whatever his real feelings, he has to go with the flow to some extent or get destroyed. He used to buck it more at any rate.
Fight or die. The gloves are off now.
Who gives a shit what government (including Trump) thinks? Nothing changes. We jump from one disaster to the next.
The real question we need to be wrestling with is how to best organize your neighborhood to keep families and self safe.
Any thoughts from Lagos?
I take some pride in stating that until a few weeks ago I didn’t even know what the LARP acronym stood for. Thanks to ZMan, I do now, but remain blissfully ignorant of anyone who is engaged in said activity and whatever the hell it is they do when LARPing. Maybe Trump is a LARPer, but more likely he’s just a typical arrogant NYC business man used to getting his was by being arrogant, pushy, and use of very sharp elbows. Doesn’t translate well to politics and the childish Twitter reactions to every perceived slight do nothing to help himself,… Read more »
LARPing for rednecks:
“I’m an Injun! Muh granny was a full-blood Cherokee!”
The conqueror is now low status, while the conquered is higher status.
See: Negroes, Usual Suspects
This is the cultural virus.
Our values have been Inverted.
“We done stole it!”
Slightly OT, but the most prevalent current LARPing and an illustrative example is people who assure you that they had Covid ‘before it was widespread’.
IMO the Jimmy Stewart version is pretty close to reality.
All the deep state had to do to co-opt Trump was throw him a couple meaningless pr wins and they couldn’t even do that.
BTW. You seam to accept the left’s premise that the permanent bureaucracy is the ultimate expression of democracy.
Thanks Z, you’ve given us an insightful picture of Trump and the Trumpaholic Syndrome.
ZMan has provided an insightful picture of Trump and the Syndrome on several occcassions. Sad as it may be, Trumpaholic Syndrome is less bad and not fatal vs. 4 yrs (or more) of BidenAbramsHarrisPelosiScumer Syndrome – which would be terminal.
this is true stranger
People on all sides are hanging onto political solutions, because they have been trained to do so. That is not the answer. Unfortunately, we are barrelling headlong into a “law of the jungle” environment, and politics will have no say in the matter, until we get to the other side of it. As such, today’s Z-man essay, on one level, is a form of trivial comment-bait. On another level, it is pulling the cover off, for all of us to see, how much so many of us are still depending on political solutions. Politics is the carnival, the center ring… Read more »
Rush is about 3 seconds away from saying Black America is rioting over taxes.
Schlomo is going to have more discounted real estate than he knows what to do with.
What strikes me about using troops domestically, using the insurrection acts, is that each governor has access to National Guard troops. The rioting/looting isn’t really hard to put down. Maybe the problem is that local politicians, like the national ones, aren’t up to their jobs. And if that’s the case, I have no problem sitting back and watching a community self destruct because of its poor voting decisions. This is why everyone needs to be armed. If we use the military to put don something like this, what won’t it be used for in the future? And if that’s the… Read more »
Of course – the problem is willpower not manpower. Minnesota doesn’t need the 82nd Airborne to quell a riot. The local and state cops backed up by their own national guard have way more firepower and resources than needed. Electing mayors and a governor who side with the looters is the problem. Having an openly Antifa AG doesn’t help either.
I have a son in law in the police force but I have no illusion it’s gonna take a near collapse on Wall Street and Good Whites being dragged out of their suburban homes by rabid negroes to change anything significantly.
Wall Street looks good today and President Kushner is smiling.
Trump is a sales guy. And a decent one. He is still selling his snake oil pretty well.
He is the best we got right now and until reality sets in and we get some bad whites leading us
it is what it is I guess. Good essay.
Trump is leading the illusion of the United Socialist States of Amerika. The citizens play at loving him hating him and everything in between. It is of no consequence. Not many know or understand where they need be. It is different with almost everyone. Emotional channeling of anger can be a positive motivation as long as the house of anger is not lived in too long. Oppressed dissident whites have been to the mountain top and know what needs to be done. Some things are worse than death. It is time to rid ourselves of The White Man’s Burden. The… Read more »
I disagree that Trump supporters will stand by him no matter what. I think most Trump people in Alabama will vote for Jeff Sessions even though Trump said not to. Likewise in Kentucky where the courageous Thomas Massie is still popular among the MAGA crowd in spite of Trump attacking him for not backing the stimulus package. Trump is half a loaf. He’s delivered very little, but has shown that an America First platform can win. He took on the military industrial complex, “free” trade, Wall Street, immigration sentimentalism, etc., and still won. The Republican Party now endorses policies… Read more »
RE: AL senate race. Would seem Sessions likely to win the Roll Tide vote v. Tuberville
Everyone today is lamenting at how repressive and lowbrow our culture is. I would like to present the case that this happened because we allowed the left to capture the institution and plant their own subversives inside, along with disregarding the institution as not leading to a high-paying job. The reality is that humanities in colleges set the cultural tone for the nation. All the things that are debated and discussed in humanities courses eventually make it into the mainstream culture. For example, the ideas of censorship, safe spaces, and “canceling” problematic free speech all began in college. I remember… Read more »
Part of this is because we have no institutional (civilizational) right wing. We used to have one, but it was destroyed before I was born by Conservatives, not by the left. (basically, just in time for the destruction of Bretton Woods and the beginning of fiat currency) The money-worshippers in the eGOP viewed them as more of a threat to their unbridled greed than they viewed the communists. The white rich truly deserve everything they have coming. I know they think they are going to control the nuevo left with their money, but they are wrong. The rich in Weimar… Read more »
I was in college in the early seventies and had gone to a public HS that offered two years of calculus, two of physics, four of Latin, etc. My first college roommate bragged to me about his HS, where one of the English teachers had them write papers on Beatles or Dylan lyrics. I said to him, “I’m glad we’re in college where it’s serious learning.”
Exactly. I did not know such at the time, but it hit me like a book first year University. My math class text book was exactly the same as last year HS. I was not so wise however, and my thinking was “Sweet, I’ve got an easy A”. Today I’d say, “What the hell am I paying you for? Where do I drop this mediocre class?”
Completely agree. Average normal American cannot fathom the levels of bizarre ideas found in colleges. And studying STEM offers no respite from the nonsense … my step-daughter’s EE class this semester includes preferred pronouns for each TA on the syllabus.
The most blackpilling thing about the riots has been the asymmetrical police response. The rioting itself by the usual suspects isn’t surprising or unusual. There’s lots of footage out there showing Hispanics, Asians and Arabs successfully defending themselves and their property without reprisal. And good for them, but… Every time a white person has attempted to do the same, they’ve been disproportionately arrested by cops who somehow have the ability to make arrests but not stop any looting, or beaten or killed (sometimes even arrested after being beaten!), or at best doxxed and threatened by goodwhites and “fellow… Read more »
Reminds me of the guy who was “ashamed” of his “fellow whites” in Snohomish for patrolling their suburb to defend it from rioters and looters. Betcha he’s NEVER complained about Shomrim doing the same thing in certain other ethnic neighborhoods.
From the local perch, until the 10th Mountain Division shows up in NY, it is all theater. Rioting is spreading closer now and no sign that DeBlowhole or Little Il Duce intend to do a thing about it. And doubtful Trump will.
That Trump has done nothing for white separatism is true, but he never ran on that. That he has done nothing is untrue. Had he dropped have done more than any Prez since Reagan. He has done much, just not enough.
his real problem is he’s not a killer, and we need one as POTUS. Never mind the Constitution, sanity will do.
We don’t need Hitler, we need Stalin to purge the Communists, or at least dominate them,
I’ve been consistent in voting in every national election since I could vote. I have seriously considered boycotting all elections from now on. I figure that all my vote does is signify my consent to the people who want to destroy me and my nation. I’m not entirely convinced though. A part of me wonders if it might be beneficial if Trump gets another four years. A lot of these trump-tards are making the excuse that when Trump gets reelected he will have the freedom to act decisively against the swamp. If we give trump the chance to… Read more »
Second presidential terms are known for throwing the base under the bus.
Exactly, that’s what I would be hoping for.
Zman — I think you are being a bit unfair to Trump. Not that he is not a blowhard who is bad at politics. But … that his entire career started at the top. So all he is good as is deals. In politicking — rewarding friends and punishing enemies he is very, very bad. As bad as Obama was (someone else who never did much politicking but was protected by the press) and Bush Junior and Senior. Reagan was better but the only really good politician President was Ike who spent his whole career in the military politicking. As… Read more »
Ike federalized the national guard in arkansas and brought in the 101st airborne to enforce black integration in schools against the wishes of the majority of the population.
Remind me again what a good president he was?
Integration seemed the right thing to at the time. Separate but equal was the law of the land before the Brown (no pun intended) case, but the black schools were not equal to the white schools. Anyway, except for his Supreme Court picks (Warren, Brennan) Eisenhower has been our most conservative post war President. No new federal programs and balanced budgets almost every year. Outstanding on immigration as well–Operation Wetback sent all of the illegals home. He became a Christian while he was President–Billy Graham was more than a golfing buddy.