President LARP

After close to a week of dithering, Jared Kushner allowed Trump to stage a publicity stunt, where he waddled out of the White House down to the church the looters had burned the other night. In front of the cameras, Trump held up a Bible and said some things. They said it symbolized national resilience to the mob violence that is engulfing the nation’s cities. In reality, it was the perfect image for a presidency that is nothing more than live action role playing.

Trump holding up a Bible is as ridiculous as Democrats talking about the Constitution and the rule of law. Trump is famously not religious. His life has been one of hedonism and self-regard. He does not attend services and breaks into hives whenever he has to speak about religion. There’s a good chance he was worried that he may be struck by lightning out there. It was the sort of highly choreographed political stunt that symbolizes everything that people hate about democracy.

That said, it will work with the plan-trusters. Scott Greer took to Twitter to announce that Trump saved his re-election campaign. Lots of his fellow plan-trusters seem to agree, at least for now. Way back in the election of 2016, Trump said “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters.” He took some grief for that at the time, but he was right. For his supporters, Trump is a vehicle through which they experience an alternative reality.

Under Trump, a new form of fantasy game has emerged. This new game is where Trump voters, and those adjacent, rush to social media in a crisis and start posting about “what Trump should do…” It’s followed by what is often a sensible suggestion, but one that will never happen. Then a long back and forth of various strategies about what he should do ensues. Sometimes Trump will goose this along with some tweets that are designed to encourage this form of role playing.

Of course, Trump never does anything. He’ll tweet out some outrage porn to the Left and make some vague threats, but otherwise he is all talk and no action. Right now, for example, he and President Kushner are trying to figure out how to win back the six black votes they were counting on this November. Now that “lowest black unemployment in history” has proven to be something less than the inspirational message they assumed, it is back to the drawing board.

In lieu of action, these internet fantasies fill the void left in these voter’s minds. They get to pretend that Trump will actually do something other than laugh at them. They look at Trump awkwardly holding a Bible in front of St. John’s Church and imagine it is a great moment where the country rallies around their hero. They get the same rush from the make believe as they would from the real. Trump pretending to do whatever it is he is promising is the same as Trump actually doing something.

In fact, they often believe it is real. Talk to a true-blue MAGA type and they will tell you Trump has clamped down on immigration and is now “draining the swamp.” If you point out the facts, they will call you a “libtard” and refuse to discuss it further. For example, many of these people not only think he is building the wall, but that it is already built, which why he no longer discuss it. The fantasy version of the Trump presidency is so fulfilling it has supplanted the real Trump presidency.

This is a form of false consciousness. Instead of workers unable to understand class reality and their own exploitation, it is white conservatives unable to process their diminished status in America. In the real world, they are at the bottom of the social hierarchy, slowly being eliminated from society. In the fantasy realm, they are still the top dogs. In the fantasy version of Trump, he is one of them, acting on behalf of their interests, when in reality, he is a tool of the ruling class.

An interesting off-shoot of this is that when you can get a Trump supporter to acknowledge that he has done nothing for them, they switch tracks. He stops being the God-Emperor and becomes Jimmy Stewart in Mr. Smith Goes To Washington. He is the sincere reformer being thwarted by the corrupt machine. In an instant, the main character in the fantasy goes from omnipotent leader to impotent victim. Trump fighting Washington is just another version of the fantasy.

Both sides of this fantasy have one thing in common. There is an unspoken, instinctive contempt for democracy. In the God-Emperor mode, Trump is issuing edicts and imposing his will on the nation. In the tragic hero version, the will of the people is thwarted by a corrupt system. In both versions, voting and debating, the core of democracy, have no role. One version is the hero slaying democracy and the other version is the hero being slain by democracy.

This form of false consciousness is not exclusive to Trump fans. His enemies now engage in their own fantasies. They imagine him as Orange Hitler and they carry on as if he really is a dictator. Further, they will convince themselves that Joe Biden is reversing all of Orange Hitler’s polices, once he is in the White House. Within days of Biden taking office, they will pretend Biden has swept aside all of the things they spent four years pretending Trump was doing.

The difference is that with the Left, they expect the fantasy to be made real and they get angry when it fails to happen. We saw this in the Obama years. They really did think he was the prophesied messiah, who would usher in a new era. As the reality of his administration became too hard to ignore, the Left got mad. When Trump won in 2016, they got super-agitated and have remained so ever since. The current round of riots are just a carryover from the disappointment of the Obama years.

For the normie right, anger and rioting are off the table, so they will continue to indulge in the fantasy game that is the Trump presidency. He will continue to monitor the situation and consider doing things. Maybe a symbolic executive order will be tossed in for effect. Meanwhile, his base will invent scenarios in which he drains the swamp and owns the libs. The less he does, the deeper the fantasy. Trump is the first virtual President, playing a role for the amusement of his voters.


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Κύριε Οὖτις
Member
4 months ago

You are becoming less interesting to read every passing day.

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
Reply to  Κύριε Οὖτις
4 months ago

I come here to read the comments.

Jack Charlton
Member
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
4 months ago

If nothing else, the comments reveal plenty of work still to be done in the trenches. A few links for those new to the Dissident Right:
https://vdare.com/articles/john-derbyshire-who-are-we-the-dissident-right
http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=14166
http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=17155
The ideas of DR politics have developed over the last few decades thanks to men like John Derbyshire, Pat Buchanan, Steve Sailer, Jared Taylor and others. This is still a young movement, but creating an alternative to the GOP requires action, gents. Zman talked about some steps for this also.
http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=18969
http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=19014

Jack Charlton
Member
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
4 months ago

For those new to the Dissident Right:
https://vdare.com/articles/john-derbyshire-who-are-we-the-dissident-right
http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=14166
http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=17155
The ideas of DR politics have developed over the last few decades thanks to men like John Derbyshire, Pat Buchanan, Steve Sailer, Jared Taylor and others. This is still a young movement, but providing an alternative to the GOP requires action. Zman talked about some steps for this also.
http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=18969
http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=19014

Jack Charlton
Member
Reply to  Jack Charlton
4 months ago

My apologies to Z for the double post.
And to the person(s) who down-vote me, think on these things: 1. White people will become a hated minority in our lifetime. 2. The GOP has and will always betray us to the ruling class.
Those are immutable facts, regardless of the 2020 election. We should act accordingly.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Jack Charlton
4 months ago

The only action that’s required is to stop talking about racism, redpill close family, and move away from urban and suburban areas. That’s it.

Schlomo
Schlomo
Reply to  Κύριε Οὖτις
4 months ago

 

lol! Trump is a true man of action!

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Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Schlomo
4 months ago

A man of action feverishly monitoring.

Apex_Predator
Member
Reply to  Κύριε Οὖτις
4 months ago

So fuck off back to Breitbart where you can upvote a comment about how Trump ‘destroyed the libs’ by holding a Bible awkwardly upside down in a comically lame fashion.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Apex_Predator
4 months ago

Breitbart, now that’s like reading wallpaper. The lowest of the low IQs on the right side of the spectrum, being herded by Israeli neocons.

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

” … like reading wallpaper.” Great phrase!
May I offer another? Breitbart, like reading cereal boxes of Cuck Flakes.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Κύριε Οὖτις
4 months ago

Triggered!

Arthur_Sido
Member
Reply to  Κύριε Οὖτις
4 months ago

I am not sure how your internet works but mine only goes to the websites I choose to go to. Do with that information what you will.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Κύριε Οὖτις
4 months ago

Dear Mr. Nobody.
 
If you have a blog, I’d love to see your work.
 

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TorontoTraveller
TorontoTraveller
Reply to  Κύριε Οὖτις
4 months ago

Fuck this guy

Homer
Homer
4 months ago

Way too cynical here, Trump actually has made a lot of changes, such a limiting legal immigration and yes, building the wall. Let the nignogs have their fun, after all it’s mostly Democrat areas that are in flames.

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  Homer
4 months ago

There’s nothing cynical about the realization that Trump doesn’t have the executive or intellectual gravitas to do anything meaningful. He craves flattery and he gets it from his sycophants. Worse, he fires anyone who is not a sycophant. Pretty easy to see the guy is an empty suit, far out of his depth.   Another key point – Trump was top of the heap of the 2016 GOP candidate pool, coming on the heels of Bush, Romney, McCain. Could you agree that the GOP has an affinity for weak sisters? Sure, if our standard of excellence is “he’s not Hillary”… Read more »

Sandmich
Sandmich
Reply to  CAPT S
4 months ago

You may be a touch too cynical, but mostly correct.
I know I was somewhat surprised at Trump getting the better of the GOP candidates in the debates, “how are they getting rolled by this guy?”. If Trump is an empty suit then the rest of the GOP exists as slightly denser air; cardboard cutouts would have put up more of a fight.

Thud
Thud
Reply to  CAPT S
4 months ago

Not being hillary is nothing to be sneered at, i’ll take trump regardless of his faults over pretty much anybody else, he is sadly our last realistic shot.

Shannon
Shannon
Reply to  CAPT S
4 months ago

The GOP didn’t think HClinton would Lise either.

John Smith
John Smith
Member
Reply to  Homer
4 months ago

Correct.   And – this problem does not belong to Trump. It belongs to We The People now. Even the niggers up here in Canada are chimping out. The blacks have opted for The Law Of The Jungle rather than the Law Of The Land – and there is nothing Trump can do about that except start a civil war. Boys, we knew long ago that we aren’t going to vote our way out of what is coming. This problem was being created before most of the commenters here were born.   What Trump did was not a PR stunt.… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  John Smith
4 months ago

don’t use bad language. it’s not helpful and very offputting agent smith
 

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  miforest
4 months ago

I must agree. Watch your language as such can produce nothing but backlash to this site. No one needs use such trigger words to express a point.

John Smith
John Smith
Member
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Okay Karen.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

John Smith didn’t do anything wrong other than tell the absolute truth.
In any case, don’t speech police. Its no different than cucking.
The exception is advocacy of illegal acts and I’m not seeing that here at least for Americans.
 

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

Calling it “speech policing” is hyperbolic. I’d prefer to think of it as reminding people that saying “NIGGER” all of the time is bad for optics and scares away fence-sitters. What benefit does such language confer?

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MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  miforest
4 months ago

I’m with MIForest on this one.
 
We need to be better than caved-in, low IQ mouth-breathers.
 
”Jogger” would have gotten the same point across and been funnier.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  John Smith
4 months ago

I’ve just spent the past three nights on my rooftop. I live a stone’s throw from Second City Comedy in Chicago. thousands of rioters were within shouting distance. I have been armed with semi-auto rifle, pistol and fire extinguishers. My wife is petrified. My neighborhood is entombed in plywood and nothing is open. Helicopters are overhead continuously and I hope they don’t shoot me.
 
At this time, I could give a whiff whether somebody here expresses himself with potty words. The mayor of my fine city uses them against the President. Let rip.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
4 months ago

Think beyond the chaos. Riots will disperse, words will remain. Not everyone who’s “language policing” is a schoolmarm.
 
And you make sure to kill everyone who threatens your family. Joggers who survive such encounters only grow more bold.

LibDis
LibDis
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
4 months ago

Exactly WTF is that racoon you people elected there.

tom
tom
Reply to  Homer
4 months ago

Homer, he is pandering to India because he is going to increase legal immigration by 500% with a new ‘NAFTA’ with them if he gets re-elected in order to provide cheap labour to the tech industry and take good paying jobs away from whites. he will also provide amnesty for all the illegals and then will tour america reminding everyone that it is always Republicans who provide amnesty to people who enter the country illegally. He’ll be right about that. He has exacerbated the situation. he has done nothing about legal or illegal immigration and has done nothing about foreign… Read more »

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tom
4 months ago

Cheap labor. Isn’t that the way we got into this mess to begin with from about 1619 to 1860?

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 months ago

Nothing is more costly than cheap labour.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Homer
4 months ago

Homer, has Trump built any “new” wall that wasn’t just replacing existing wall with new wall that can be cut through with tools available at Home Depot?
 
If he has, I’d like to know.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  LineInTheSand
4 months ago

Then you need to read more. Couple of weeks ago, there was a celebration of the first 100 miles of “new” wall *built* in just this sector. Had the ICE Sec (acting) attending. There are currently lawsuits attempting to halt more building in this sector because they claim construction technique is blowing up sacred artifacts. The new, faster, technique is to excavate foundation with explosives and set the fence in ground on the rubble. I’m not an engineer, but the description I heard sounded good.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Trump signed the Cromnibus that prevented him from using any of the taxpayer-funded prototypes in building the wall. Then he signed another Cromnibus that gave border counties veto power over any barrier being built. His DOJ sued the “We Build the Wall” people, temporarily preventing them from building until some judge intervened.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  RoBG
4 months ago

And then Trump declared a national emergency and shifted $$$B’s to the border wall. So what’s your point. He got the money. The first bills were necessary because he wanted military funding increases. Those came first, then he kicked the Dem’s in the balls and laughed. Don’t cherry pick your argument’s data and please be complete, not one sided. This isn’t a HS debate.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Homer
4 months ago

Based on a glance at latest gov’t stats: https://tinyurl.com/yb6j9r7h the only immigration category that has declined during the Trump admin has been refugees (and that not by much.) Every other category is up. Most disheartening is the issuance of discretionary work permits to border-jumpers https://tinyurl.com/wqyvyjx contra 8 U.S.C. §1158(d)(2). In the hundreds of thousands. Way higher than Obama.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  RoBG
4 months ago

Those stats end in 2018. The beginning of the longest stretch of boom times in the States and the final defeat of Dem challenges to the border enforce and declaration of emergency. Looking back at this table:   https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2018/table33   You will see the trend downward, even in Obama years. What the old stat’s won’t show is the effect of MX arm twisting to keep folks away from border and in MX. There has been news reports here, with pictures, of well over 2K Africans—yes, Africans—rioting in MX because they want to approach the border to claim asylum, but the… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

There’s a lag-time on all stats issued by the gov. Part of it due to fiscal v. calendar year, and part of it due to collecting and assembling data takes time. So there’s always going to be a lag. A fiscal year lag is normal if you look at previous years.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Dude, border crossings in April of this virus year are higher than the April after Trump took office. I was once as you are now, believe me I’m sympathetic.

Henry
Henry
Reply to  RoBG
4 months ago

Also a lag, but this includes an estimate on net migration for 2019: https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2019/12/net-international-migration-projected-to-fall-lowest-levels-this-decade.html   The recent decline is driven mostly by people moving back to PR, which mostly isn’t due to Trump policies. On the other hand, the very tight labor market (before corona) draws in more than there otherwise would have been, reducing the downward trend, and making his policies appear weaker.   It is very difficult to isolate the impact of a set of policies on immigration. In the fog of incomplete data and confounding variables people believe what they want to believe. What matters to me… Read more »

David_Wright
Member
4 months ago

When I tried to explain to my wife last night that Trump looks weak and ineffective with the riots she countered that the states wouldn’t let him do anything. I explained further what he could do and she just wouldn’t get it. Dems bad.
I saw the future when minorities rule how it will be. That Mexi-sheriff in Texas siding with the crowd and shouting about we (blacks-hispanics) have been historically treated badly and how they need to fight whitey. The most illuminating scene I have seen in a while.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  David_Wright
4 months ago

All politicians play at helplessness. It’s some toxic combination of refusing accountability and social cache via victim hood.
 
The pols running the show are now just victims too. Even police chiefs are getting in on the action. They all count on cover from the media and a public too stupid to figure out that they’ve been running the system for years and so are the source of “systemic” anything.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  David_Wright
4 months ago

I’m more convinced that ever that we’ll see some nasty stuff in the near future. The Dems and the media pushing hard the racial injustice narrative. The GOP is terrified to push back even as riots are going on, much less if the Dems start passing racial injustice policies.   It’s not hard to imagine what can be done to whites in the name of racial or environmental justice. What’s more, a good chunk of whites will welcome it as a means to redemption. The virus has shown how easily people can be cowed in the name of some public… Read more »

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Unfortunately, most of our tribe won’t drop the nostalgia America fantasy until something like you’ve suggested happens. Our choice seems to have deteriorated into poison by the dropper or poison by the barrel. The quicker our people are force to drop the pretense the better our chances.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Yves Vannes
4 months ago

Until middle and upper-middle class whites both feel some pain and figure out that their POC preachers are distinguishing between Goodwhites and Badwhites, that we’re all just whites, it’s going to be an uphill battle.
 
But that’s been the case all along. However, I’m beginning to see how hard this is going to be. We’re going to lose friends and family members over this.

Rodger James
Rodger James
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

by then it will be too damn late. Look at South Africa as the example.

The Babe
The Babe
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

I saw John Rivers on Gab call it an “anti-white pogrom.”
 
And so it is.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  The Babe
4 months ago

To clarify:
 
An anti BadWhite pogrom.
 
If Goodwhites want to remove their genetics from the gene pool, let ‘em.
 
If the pathological altruism gene passes out of existence, that’s a plus for the 14 Words.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

citizen , this short video is for you. it will lcear a lot up about the GOP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlKQbA2Dbqo

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

“We are not voting our way out of this” still applies. Trump’s effect has been to pull the cover off of the game for us to more easily see what is going on, but not to do much about it. That’s one for two, but one more than any other politician has offered up to us.
Trump will either bring the hammer down shortly on a lot of people and movements, or he will not. Either way, he is probably done by November, and destined to either go home or to be a placeholder for four more years.

Henry
Henry
Reply to  Dutch
4 months ago

We don’t know for sure what 2nd term Trump during a depression would be like vs 1st term Trump during a boom. No one can say with confidence that he would be a mere placeholder.

Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

The response to the virus was my first hint that VERY BAD THINGS would continue to happen after the virus fizzled. Even 20 years ago if someone broached the topic of a “lockdown”, some intelligent, clean shaven men in generic off-the-rack suits would have appeared as if by magic. These men would have advanced degrees in things like mathematics, economics, and operations research. They would have sat down with all these governors and other pols and calmly explained that even if the worst models of the pandemic were correct (and the worst case scenarios almost never pan out) a few… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  pozymandias
4 months ago

I figured the US would be on its way to failed state , Bugaloo or USSR adios by the 2030’s. Looks like the Wuhan flu basically compressed the collapse timeline on the end game.
 

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

Yeah, this thread has just convinced me to vote for Biden. let the good times roll! guess i’m and Accelerationist now. Come on in bois, the waters fine.

Member
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

Well that certainly wasn’t my intention. In spite of everything I remain on Team Trump. I’d say there’s about a 25% chance at this point though that there won’t even be an election to worry about.

Horatio_Nelson
Horatio_Nelson
Member
Reply to  David_Wright
4 months ago

Link for the Mexi-sheriff shouting? I am slowly working on my wife as well.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Horatio_Nelson
4 months ago

Tread gently, my friend. I speak from sad experience. With loved ones, it’s better to go too slow than too fast.

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  David_Wright
4 months ago

I’ve heard this song and dance about what Trump could/should do, for as long as he’s been elected. Am not overly impressed. You wanted a Superman and you got a politician who continues to work within a framework of Constitutional precedent that has been established before him.
 
Keep asking for you authoritarian dictator, you’ll get him—but you won’t like it.

David_Wright
Member
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Authoritarian? I just want him to do his effing job. Something other than mean tweet.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  David_Wright
4 months ago

Exactly .
As for an authoritarian as long as El Jefe is close enough to our guy I’m fine with it .
Right now it seems like we are getting a President great at a mean tweet sesh and looting via Kushner and not good at bringing the hammer down.
 
 

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

When will our pinochet arise? A couple of helecopter rides would have many salubrious effects! Kidding aside, the shift from the manufactured covid crisis to a hate whitey orgy stikes me an overplay of thier hand. We are in active humilation territory now. One can no longer operate within this system with dignity.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  David_Wright
4 months ago

No, most of these posts assume he has authority not granted him in the Constitution. You want a Superman. You say he should do this or that and rarely if ever point to the Constitutional language or precedent that would allow such action. And even when such is done, no thought is given to the political ramifications of such. You’d be happy to see “action” which is either overturned in the courts, or brings about a successful impeachment. You’d settle for glorious defeat rather than incremental progress.

Henry
Henry
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Most critics are just making themselves feel OK about their plan to not vote for him in the upcoming election.
 
To quibble with your point: Trump’s binding constraints are not the Constitution. It’s a mixture of his own faults, high ranking bureaucrats, Republican Senators, The People (and their opinions, especially low info potential voters).

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Henry
4 months ago

Trump’s binding constraint is Jews.

Henry
Henry
Reply to  Exile
4 months ago

If he wanted to ignore Kushner et al. he could. I don’t believe any of these theories about him being blackmailed by Mossad.

Henry
Henry
Reply to  Exile
4 months ago

Exile I haven’t been around here for a while. Do you ever get that closed forum up and running? That’s a great idea.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

When you and I can use our real names to have this discussion online, Comp, talk to me about how lucky we are to live in a Constitutional framework that respects precedents.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Exile
4 months ago

What we do here, has little to do with the topic of what Trump does and the Constitution and the precedents Trump decides to follow.   Pseudo names are because of other people using such in aggressive manner, e.g., doxing, to the detriment of free expression. But that is an attack not directly prevented by the Constitution. As far as the government attacking a commenter, a false name gives them not one wit of problem. They can and most likely do know who each and everyone of us are on this forum.   I’m also not so paranoid/scared as some… Read more »

ExNativeSon
ExNativeSon
Reply to  David_Wright
4 months ago

As a person who had voted for a D his whole life until Trump I am fairly unique on this blog. Long story short I saw the 2016 election as the Flight 93 election per the famous essay.  I know the liberal mind.    “2016 is the Flight 93 election: charge the cockpit or you die. You may die anyway. You—or the leader of your party—may make it into the cockpit and not know how to fly or land the plane. There are no guarantees.  Except one: if you don’t try, death is certain.” https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/digital/the-flight-93-election/   This is another extraordinarily excellent essay… Read more »

Henry
Henry
Reply to  ExNativeSon
4 months ago

Small communities aren’t pathetic, especially if there are a lot of them. Furthermore, doing something that you know you can make work is far less pathetic than dreaming of something heroic that will never happen (or that will never work the way you think it will).
 
I’m curios: Why did you stick with the Democrats for so long?

ExNativeSon
ExNativeSon
Reply to  Henry
4 months ago

Good questions. I did not mean imply that small communities are bad. I would certainly hope for a peaceful secession. Barring a quick divorce it just seems so much more grand, epic, and quick to saddle up the cavalry and charge.But losing which we surely would at this point is not a solution and I have no illusions about the glory of combat. Building small communities is very hard and time consuming is my baby whine.   Why D for so long? I could write a book. For one thing I believed that they actually were for free speech, truth… Read more »

Henry
Henry
Reply to  ExNativeSon
4 months ago

You are right — building a community is hard. Unless you are retired or very adventurous you have to stay where the jobs are, and settle for virtual communities. That is the situation I am in. On the plus side it is relatively easy to dispense with epic dreams so that you are left with (1) thinking small or (2) doing nothing as your only options. It is easy for me to choose between those options.   You have an interesting story about leaving the left. You also have insight about the liberal hive mind that a majority of the… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  ExNativeSon
4 months ago

Well, congradulations, very very few men change thier mind based upon evidence and reason. The early conditioning is hard to break. Sets men apart, and there is very few true men, from the animals.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  ExNativeSon
4 months ago

Although I,’m mostly conservative, I’ve been a monthly Greenpeace supporter for a few years. Today I got one of their emails showing how socially conscious they are, including Black Lives Matter and all the other Liberal dreams of late. Finally, I realize their mission has strayed far from enivoronmental/ocean wildlife. Just look at their website. Well, my eyes have been opened. I am going to cancel my donating and tell them why I’m leaving if they ask. I guess it doesn’t fit their world-view that not all of their donors who cared about the envirionment appreciate share their other views,… Read more »

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 months ago

Among other affiliations you might rethink shopping at Target unless you want the Zman in this sun-dress in your daughters bathroom and Lowes just proudly announced their support for the rioters, so Home Depot it is.

miforest
Member
Reply to  ExNativeSon
4 months ago

Ex, I couldn’t agree more. When the 82nd airborn is stged to patrol washington , the shit is very real aand very bad

bilejones
Member
Reply to  ExNativeSon
4 months ago

“I saw the 2016 election as the Flight 93 election”
 
In other words, total fantasy with no connection to reality.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  David_Wright
4 months ago

clearly those groups have a historical grievance. But to act upon it is as illogical as to act upon religious hatreds going back to Thousand Years. A more interesting question would be to ask those people What kind of world they get when their enemy is finally gone.

 

 

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Henry
Henry
Reply to  David_Wright
4 months ago

He wants the governors to ask him for troops before he sends them.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  David_Wright
4 months ago

The chaos in the streets is out in the open but this sort of behavior goes on every day in any school that is even 5% black/brown. Above 20% is a loss of control, more than half is literally worse than a zoo. This school is 20% white and 80% colored.
You don’t need to listen to the whole thing, 2 minutes will show you what happens in hundreds? thousands? of schools like this one every single day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SRCY8FqoyQ

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Yves Vannes
4 months ago

I’m amazed that teachers put up with these environments at all. Hell of a red pill for these traditionally liberal idealists, at least fresh out of university.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Yves Vannes
4 months ago

I can’t believe she blurted out “hitler did nothing wrong” ther at the end.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  David_Wright
4 months ago

Ironically, Mexican gangsters are better to have around than Mexican sheriffs. At least they protect their goddamn territory.

AntiDem
AntiDem
4 months ago

Okay, but without a better plan, bitching and groaning about Trump is an even bigger LARP, and the people who engage in it are even more useless.
 

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AntiDem
AntiDem
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

No, I’m calling you useless until you have a better plan. We’ve hit the limit of the practical utility of bitching and groaning about how the world ain’t fair and isn’t handing us what we want on a platter. Complainers bring nothing useful to the table at this point, and despair is a sin for a reason. We have serious, hard work to do, and wallowing in edgy nihilism is a waste of time.
 
Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

Goetz
Goetz
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

 Even boomers want to know how to be an effective dissident and to what end. If Trumps not the answer, nor Dems, nor anarchy, nor ethnostates, then what is?
 
 

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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Goetz
4 months ago

The slow grind of building our own communities. I’ve written about it a ton. Z has talked about it a ton.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

citien, good suggestion. it will also improve your life.

BerndV
BerndV
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

So what happens when we build our own communities and a vindictive leftist fedgov and their handmaidens in the media decide that our project is illegitimate? Legislation is passed to impose diversity upon the ever dwindling number of conservative white enclaves via open borders, federal housing dictates, shithole refugee resettlement, mandatory community racial redistribution, federal hate speech legislation, a gutting of the second amendment, and a hundred more dystopian possibilities the white hating left has considered. Of course, they will be willingly assisted and encouraged by the thirty to forty percent of delusional whites that sympathize with the nationwide chimp… Read more »

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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  BerndV
4 months ago

Bernd,   Yep, all that’s true. We’ve got a lot stacked against us. But let’s not forget that our opponents aren’t Gods. They really aren’t that bright. Also, they are simply wrong about how the world works. That’s matters. The more than run the system, the worse the system gets.   A little over a hundred years ago, whites dominated the world and were proud of themselves and their past. Asians – outside of Japan – were a defeated people. Muslims were a mess. Africans were, well, Africans. Israel was still just a dream for Jews.   My point is… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Hubris. White Europeans conquered the world and perhaps, made the fatal mistake that non-Whites would adopt our culture’s values. Except for some of the Asian nations, by and large that expectation has failed. As Z often notes, in so many words, is that the West having noted the failure of nearly all these ideals of equality, is now well on the way to deny reality and punish those who resist the official orthodoxy.

ExNativeSon
ExNativeSon
Reply to  BerndV
4 months ago

As CSC notes you are correct on every point. Every point.   But other than watch Rome burn while sitting in your nice house watching Netflix or ingesting opioids in your trailer park what are you going to do? They want to kill us. We only die once so why not die well on our terms.   On the “bright” side your national debt observation is on the money as the kids say. But if you think the US will become a ward of anyone you might rethink that. We don’t spend more on military than the next 10 countries… Read more »

FashGordon
FashGordon
Reply to  Goetz
4 months ago

Armed rebellion

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  FashGordon
4 months ago

Armed rebellion now is worse than suicide. We need to consolidate our position and focus on living our lives in peace, prepping for the worst in the meantime.
Are you a glowie?

AntiDem
AntiDem
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

Jesus Christ – you’re 53 years old and you’re still reacting to criticism by rebelling against your Boomer parents? No wonder you have nothing valuable to offer.

miforest
Member
Reply to  AntiDem
4 months ago

I certianly hope you do read a little of what jesus had to sy AD

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  miforest
4 months ago

Jesus died a slow horrible death on a cross
If you are a believer this was awesome for many good reasons but as for , the rest of us non believers ?
We want to win without doing the Jewish Martyrdom thing thanks.
Subtle as serpents has its place but sometimes snek needs to bit too.

TorontoTraveller
TorontoTraveller
Reply to  AntiDem
4 months ago

You are even stupider than Hun and these other commenters I occassionaly slap around. How the hell did Americans ever become so rich? Hint: It weren’t brains. Even Z would.need to concede this.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

Boomers actually got stuff done unlike us Gen X. It was mostly the wrong stuff but still. Hell these rioters actually get stuff done. Again its the wrong stuff but still. I don’t expect this kind of thing from Conservatives nor advocate it but I’m with Anti Dem. We are so focused on our families and selves actually building something bigger, talking to neighbors seems daunting Now Snohomish had the right idea, the city managed to pull 1000 militia the other day and prevent any looting. Till the rest of us get there, let me ask you this.? Are you… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  AntiDem
4 months ago

Agent AD, don’t overplay it , it will make people untrusting of you.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  miforest
4 months ago

AD has been around a long time than you have pal.
Worrying about Feds under every bed is useless anyway. Understand they are out there and find a way to do what you must.
 

miforest
Member
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

he types to fast to be older than me .

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  AntiDem
4 months ago

Look, there are no easy, quick answers. Just accept it. If you are looking for Superman and Z-man is not it—look elsewhere. We sleepwalked into this situation going on three generations now. You expect marching orders tomorrow? Z-man does his part in focusing folks. That is an immense contribution to the cause if nothing else.
 
Take a breath, there are lots of fellow posters here equally frustrated.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  AntiDem
4 months ago

This is just more kosher-sandwich BS, Anti-Dem.
 
This site has hundreds of posts and comments and pods covering “What We Must Do” – starting with “stop believing in the GOP or voting your way out of this.”
 
You’re coping and deflecting, or you’re shilling. This is not a good faith criticism either way.

TorontoTraveller
TorontoTraveller
Reply to  AntiDem
4 months ago

Lead, follow or get out of the way. I need to take time to absorb the profundity of you comment. Bear with me.
 
 
Ok. I’m ok now. I’ve recovered my equilibrium.
 
 
 
AntiDem – where are you leading to. Are you sure the path you are walking isn’t over the edge of.a cliff? Seems a bit foggy out there to me. That orange glow you’re following…I’m not sure.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  AntiDem
4 months ago

1: Redpill your family.
2: Gtfo into the woods or a rural area with other like-minded people.
3: In the meantime, stop trying to stick it to the left, and don’t go on public crusades for the right.
Z’s talked about these things before. Sounds like a plan to me.
 

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Henry
Henry
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

He isn’t calling you a libtard or running away. He is pointing to a serious problem with the right. I am just as guilty of being long on complaints and short on solutions. We will have to get around to addressing this problem at some point. Here’s my plan when it comes to voting. Vote for the most right wing candidate in the primary, the least worst in the general, have ZERO expectations (then you won’t get frustrated later). Get off work in the middle of the day so you don’t have to stand in line for too long. Of… Read more »

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

Where’s Curt Dolittle to give us 10,000 words of verbal diarrhea when we need him?

TorontoTraveller
TorontoTraveller
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

I don’t know Z. I’m keeping my powder dry until I see what Eric Cantor thinks of all this.
 
Amirite Henry?

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  AntiDem
4 months ago

As a sailor I learned the value of bitching … if you listen and penetrate the shrouded truths, quite often you’ll discover your blind spots. A good leader also recognizes that whenever confronted with a crisis, look for solutions in increasing concentric circles around YOUR desk. Another life-lesson … my experience is that bitching can lead to constructive brain-storming, problem-solving. Don’t forget our 18th century revolution began with bitch-sessions in the local tavern.   It’s not useless to bitch and groan if that leads to an understanding that reliance on Trump (or any governmental stooge) is a fools errand. And… Read more »

Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
Reply to  AntiDem
4 months ago

Man this post has brought out a surprising amount of butthurt. I didnt think people who knew about this blog also were so on board the trump train.

Major Hoople
Major Hoople
Member
Reply to  Irishfarmer
4 months ago

Learning that we ain’t voting our way out of this will be a hard won knowledge.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Irishfarmer
4 months ago

There’s a lot of newbies here, no doubt brought in by Z being one of the few to speak realistically about Corona-Chan.

IsItOver?
IsItOver?
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

Yep. That’s how I got here.

TorontoTraveller
TorontoTraveller
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

Yup. Good observation.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Irishfarmer
4 months ago

I;m not but the Dissident Right has nothing to offer whites. It’s a empty can with a dew rocks in it.
Seriously I can’t point alienated whites to a data even a 1 page flyer that explainjs what the dissident right is,what it stands for and what it’s goals are.
 
The DR big thinkers had years to get their shit organized and do out reach and they did squat
We’re mostly all hat and no cattle.

Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 months ago

Theres a few reasons for that. One is the DR has consistently attracted low status whites which has meant a lot of people more interested cooky costumes than practical organizing. Second, imo a lot of left wingers came over hoping to carve out an alternate power niche and have been and continue to be death spiraling into nonsense ideologies and doomed strategies about what will fix things.   There really is no solid dissident right. Or there is to the extent that you are dissident right. If youre waiting for a movement to come back and set things right it… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 months ago

<i>I can’t point alienated whites to a data even a 1 page flyer that explainjs what the dissident right is,what it stands for and what it’s goals are.</i>
 
I can give it to you in one word: Ethno-nationalism.
 
It’s really that simple.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Ireland for the Irish!

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Some of us are missing the point.   I understand the psychological need for some road “map” to follow. Lord knows I’ve asked for one and never was satisfied. That is not happening here and frustration builds.   Here’s the way it is folks: Z-man is not your cartographer! You are all your own cartographers. Z-man is your damn guide, pointing out the landmarks on your journey through society. It’s your job to note them and draw your own map!   In the discussions here people interact with each other and exchange/critique their partial maps. Eventually improving their end product.… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Also, let’s shoot the bear before we sell the pelt. There’ll be plenty of time to hash out the politics once we’ve defeated globohomo.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Hang together or hang separately. Your road map as vs the road map will end up getting you smashed by the larger mob of guys willing to hold their nose on things they don’t like and follow In order to facilitate a win , figure out the least you will except , make sure there is nothing that would cause betrayal and work together. It was bad enough the original US had to accept slavery. We can do better. If we can’t than let it burn , tribe up and take power in a smaller homogeneous polity It won’t be… Read more »

MossHammer
Member
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Nailed it Comp. Z-man is not your cartographer! You are all your own cartographers. It has taken me a few months to realize, with a few boys here in the comments, that the Shooting House Rules apply here, too. No one is coming Everything is your responsibility Save who needs saving Kill who needs killing A recent long form essay on Jacksonian roots and it’s current state reminded me that my people share deep communal roots that appear to collect and concentrate them when needed. To heap on Zman’s point, system-wide plans and centralization are the enemy at this point.… Read more »

TorontoTraveller
TorontoTraveller
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 months ago

Who are the “DR big thinkers” again? You’ve read, but ignored what Z has to say on this topic, but you post anyhow? Why?

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 months ago

RWC’s riding his big black-pill cow today. Try asking him what his plan for getting our shit together is. He can’t be bothered to put together his own 1 page plan for anything. I have yet to see one coherent actionable paragraph in the year-ish he’s been doom-posting (and hope-posting and fed-posting and a dozen other kinds of posting depending on what’s on sale at the local Liquor Barn).

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  AntiDem
4 months ago

That’s the problem our side has no alternative to offer white Americans.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 months ago

Trump 2016, for whatever flaws it had, at least offered BadWhites an alternative.
 
Trump 2020 is just a Breitbart-driven mess of Civic Nationalism with zero appeal to non-BoomerCons.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 months ago

We have a well defined alternative but first the white empty hope in some sort of civic nationalism has to immolate itself. When that happens whites will have their public Road-to-Damascus moment and finally drop all of the wishful thinking that goes into “if they act like us they can be like us” universal brotherhood of man under god and constitution delusion. Then comes separation and removal. Then reforming and/or building institutions that serve all of white society. This will require reforming politics so that it serves the needs of all groups of whites with give and take, with reciprocity… Read more »

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Yves Vannes
4 months ago

“Then comes separation and removal. “ And in between Separation and Removal is a long road of violent ugly. I hesitate to call it civil war because it won’ t be as simply clear cut as two warring factions. Police state and skirmishes. We shall wait and see the forms this come-apart will take. How Lenin and Stalin planned is not us. We already live in a surveillance state so our planning and upgrades will look different. Any type of grouping up will be met by brutality and violence. Last night, Antifa threatened on Facebook to come to the Salt… Read more »

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Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

Glad to hear you daughter is okay. The corridor along Hwy 4 is unrecognizable from what it even was 10 years ago. The last time I was in Brentwood I was surprised by all the blacks I saw. Section 8? Contra Costa Co. was already lost when you left. Most of the whites left in the entire Bay Area are either bugmen in their soul or bugmen forced by circumstance. I left in December.   You are right, things will go from ugly to very ugly. But we can make things a lot easier on ourselves if we let Civnatism… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 months ago

Rwc, people around here don’t like to here it, but you make a point. We need to offer whites an alternative. However, you know that we can’t at the moment.   We can only do the small things right now. Finding each other IRL and getting small groups together that quietly work for our community. We need to build a foundation so that when things get worse, and they will, whites have groups to join.   I’ll be the first to admit, the odds are against us. I’ll also admit that we’re starting at the very bottom. But what exactly… Read more »

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Afraid you misread my missive. I agree with you. I watched my Trot parents chase unicorns and grow into miserable hollow old sots. Youngers hate to hear that there is no way forward at the moment because youth is the principle of action. And I’m not defending Trump. I’m old enough to have learned when there is no clear way forward, just breathe. Be still. Quit flailing around. Listen, particularly inside. You will know. You will know when the wave is right and time to shoot the curl. Options and doors will open up. In the future, what has not… Read more »

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

You are a wise woman RFF.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

Ha! Tell that to my husband!

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  AntiDem
4 months ago

The better plan is to accept that we’re not voting our way out of this. The better plan is to start finding each other IRL, then form groups that help the general community (but are really geared to help whites), find more of us through these groups, start forming groups that push for equality – not white identity, just against whites getting discriminated against, those groups slowly morph into white advocacy groups and away we go.   There’s an actual plan. Will it take time? Yes. Is it grunt work? Yes. Will it actually work? Don’t know. But it’s better… Read more »

Alzaebo
Reply to  AntiDem
4 months ago

The DR wil be politically powerless until we can offer Beltway jobs, and everything’s designed to prevent that.
 
It’s not bitching… it’s called brainstorming.

Alzaebo
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

Yeah, but that orange jumpsuit is so gauche.

Maybe I can accessorize with shackles?

Accessories are the key to fashion success!

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Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

Huge gold chains go well with the orange jumpsuit.

Eleutheria2
Eleutheria2
4 months ago

The point about “the left pretending Biden wiped away everything that Trump pretended to enact” is the driving force behind our uniparty democratic republic. The billions to special interest groups and Israel aren’t imaginary, and neither is the gradual hollowing out of the middle class. But as long as both sides can prop up their token rage porn issues to deflect attention, the real “progress” doesn’t matter. Also, I think everyone is missing the real intent behind Trump waddling out to hold a Bible in front of a church. I think he was trying to use the Bible to burn… Read more »

Kevin
Kevin
Member
Reply to  Eleutheria2
4 months ago

I’ll bet that Trump’s relocation of the embassy to Jerusalem, the increased aid to Israel and any annexed territory will NOT be reversed by Biden or whatever democrat gets in. So Trump’s got a legacy after all.

Whitney
Member
4 months ago

Yesterday, someone said to me ” what level of Jumanji are we in now?”

Alzaebo
Reply to  Whitney
4 months ago

Jengaaaa!!

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ChetRollins
ChetRollins
4 months ago

Trump was always a showman, and the stunt last night was insanely good optics.
The problem is he is all showmanship, and the people in the shadows who can actually execute his rhetoric hate him. He only has himself to blame, since he hired them.

David_Wright
Member
Reply to  ChetRollins
4 months ago

With Kushner and that pet rock brained wife of his having any sort of advisory role with Trump, we have no chance. He knows they are lefties but either he really is one too or just isn’t up to the task of thinking for himself. If so, for Gods sake bring Bannon back.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  David_Wright
4 months ago

“bring Bannon back.”
 
pence retires
bannon named as VP
trump retires
bannon becomes prez
tucker carlson named as VP
 
nixon/agnew/ford/rockefeller

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
4 months ago

Tucker only looks good by comparison with his colleagues. Whenever he talks about race, inevitably he invites on a token to say what he cannot. Same thing with women and same with gays. This is the GOP of 25 years ago which all goes in the direction of where we are. Anyone willing to listen to Tucker will inevitably hear his bad opinion of Trump, for all the wrong reasons, for all the same reasons as the rest of the press. His criticisms of Trump are not our criticisms. They are identical to the NYT’s criticisms. If Trump were doing… Read more »

Apex_Predator
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

Whenever he talks about race, inevitably he invites on a token to say what he cannot.    So on live TV he should just say n1ggers are the problem to millions of viewers vs. using a sock-puppet minority to convey the message for him, and thereby, having a job to return to the next day. Got it… anything else he should do to exit his job more rapidly?   He is the closest thing we have to a DR ‘spokesperson’ so he chooses his words very carefully, one might even say masterfully, to dance on that razor edge between raw… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Apex_Predator
4 months ago

No, you moron. You can speak frankly and accurately about race issues without calling people n words. Are you really that dumb that you cannot understand this?
You are either a disingenuous traitor or you are stupid to comment on the issue.

Apex_Predator
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

I’m banned from your Supreme Dark Lord‘s VoxDay’s super awesome-o abode of sycophants where I noticed you are an active supplicant still, so I’m going to go with stupid/midwit/gamma for myself.
 BTW: I upvote lots of your posts including other ones on today’s topic, but you are just wrong here. He is doing a pretty good job of tightrope walking these topics so we will have to agree to disagree.
 

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tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Apex_Predator
4 months ago

Look, you came across very nasty. If that’s not the way you meant it, then forget about the name calling and accept my apologies. But my point still stands. Dancing around the issue has been failing for decades. The other side does not do this. Tucker showed video after video of mobs of blacks attacking white people. The whole thing is about race. Pretending it’s not is not helping. The other side is openly stating their hatred and contempt for white people. This is never going to stop if you cannot even acknowledge that it is happening. Tucker showed tweet… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

Apex and Tars,
 
Glad you are sorting this out. I enjoy reading both of you whether I agree or not with your arguments. You are both on the same side, Gentlemen.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

Finally! Somebody else gets negative numbers 🙂

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

He’s an employee. Every employee toes the company line or finds him/her/xir/them selves out on the pavement. Everyone that’s ever worked in corporate-land understands this.

Dukeboy01
Dukeboy01
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

Definitely. Like Tucker well enough, but he’s not “one of our guys.”

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
4 months ago

Bannon is a civic nationalist, he’s kosher-right. As he told the Norwegian media:

 I do not believe in etno-nationalism. I think it’s ridiculous. I think it’s stupid. I’ve said this ad infinitum.

Etno-nationalist, racist, anti-semitic. We won’t work with these people. And there is a reason. Not only is it wrong – morally wrong, but you’re never going to help working class people, because you’re never going to win.

https://www.document.no/2019/05/09/bannon-spiste-aftenposten-til-frokost-og-resten-av-msm-til-lunsj/
 
 

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Alzaebo
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Damn. Anti-semitism is my sport.

And for what it’s worth, I’ve started listening to Le Tuck.

C’mon, friend. Shake hands.

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Bannon is a decent enough guy but he’s part of the system just a slightly dissident country clubber . Stuff like ethnic nationalism terrifies them. Its understandable, an economy where people like him can thrive needs to be open and have a lot of trade. An EN economy is closed to most outsiders, eschews most trade for doing it local and in some cases may not even allow vistors or tourism for long periods. If E wins its the end of the empire he still serves, the end of most globalism and a radically different social structure. No Boomer is… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  ChetRollins
4 months ago

This has been my single biggest criticism of Trump. Most of the people from the campaign are long gone and have been replaced by swamp creatures.
One thing he should do is move some of the departments far out of DC. Because the swamp is not just the government, it is the DC metro area. The swamp knows each other and their kids go to school together. It is one big holistic swamp. Moving things physically will break up that part of it.

Alzaebo
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

Segregation now, segregation forever!

That simple physical move would do more to reform the Fortress than an hundred revolutions.

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Fugitive from the Silent Majority
Fugitive from the Silent Majority
4 months ago

Thanks Z, you’ve given us an insightful picture of Trump and the Trumpaholic Syndrome.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Fugitive from the Silent Majority
4 months ago

ZMan has provided an insightful picture of Trump and the Syndrome on several occcassions. Sad as it may be, Trumpaholic Syndrome is less bad and not fatal vs. 4 yrs (or more) of BidenAbramsHarrisPelosiScumer Syndrome – which would be terminal.
 

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miforest
Member
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
4 months ago

this is true stranger

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
4 months ago

People on all sides are hanging onto political solutions, because they have been trained to do so. That is not the answer. Unfortunately, we are barrelling headlong into a “law of the jungle” environment, and politics will have no say in the matter, until we get to the other side of it. As such, today’s Z-man essay, on one level, is a form of trivial comment-bait. On another level, it is pulling the cover off, for all of us to see, how much so many of us are still depending on political solutions. Politics is the carnival, the center ring… Read more »

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
4 months ago

IMO the Jimmy Stewart version is pretty close to reality.
All the deep state had to do to co-opt Trump was throw him a couple meaningless pr wins and they couldn’t even do that.
 
BTW. You seam to accept the left’s premise that the permanent bureaucracy is the ultimate expression of democracy.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
4 months ago

So when does the Breitbart crowd have their When Prophecy Fails moment?

November, perhaps?

Lurker
Lurker
4 months ago

For the Left , Trump is Hitler . For some on the Right he is the good Tsar , battling rapacious boyars . Trump is a figurehead that the left can personalize as its enemy . They understand his words and rhetoric as actions , when all he offers his supporters are words , to deflect from the fact that actions speak louder then words . He is a diversion!     Lenin formulated the problem as “ who , whom “ . Who is an insider and who is an outsider ? The rights and responsibilities of the in-group extend… Read more »

bob sykes
bob sykes
4 months ago

So Trump is a fraud. Kushner is President. ZOG becomes more powerful.
 
But in November, what are we supposed to do? Vote for Biden/Abrams? Stay home?
 
I will vote for Trump(Kushner). ZOG is better than a black communist regime.

Walt Jeffers
Walt Jeffers
Reply to  bob sykes
4 months ago

Exactly. WTF do people on this side, including this blogger want to do? Do they really “welll it’s all the same’ if we get Biden or Trump???? Biden and that hideous black creature from Georgia a heartbeat away from the presidency??? People who say this on our side are insane. The TRS/FTN crowd are a good example. They don’t seem to think things through.
The whole “Trump is no different, he such a disappointment …” schtick is tired and wahmenly.
 
 

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

I’ve thought that since Clinton beat Bush in 92. He did pretty much the opposite of what he campaigned on.

NJ Person
NJ Person
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

Z-Man, you have been on a hot streak since the beginning of the lock down. I am afraid your characterization of the Orange Man and his supporters is spot on. However, not to be in Trump’s defense, we should recognize that we are saddled with a two party and political binary system (except for a growing number of states like NJ which effectively are one party states).

NJ Person
NJ Person
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

Not to sound too off the charts and get off topic, but was Pinochet so terrible? He was certainly 100x better than “Fidel” or “Che”, heroes of the left. Until recently, Chile was the most successful Latin American country. (I have had this running argument with a left-wing friend for decades.)

miforest
Member
Reply to  NJ Person
4 months ago

we love pinochet, but the libs think him satan

Alzaebo
Reply to  miforest
4 months ago

Mi general

(h/t Saml Adams)

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  NJ Person
4 months ago

Pinochet was a lot closer to Cincinnatus than to Fidel or Che. If you want a modern comparison, closer to Franco of Spanish revolution fame.
 
The Left hate him because he set an example of the only force/process that could successfully defeat their utopian/socialist “democratic” power grab. Still holds true today.
 
If a Superman is to come along to correct our course, it will take such an individual as mentioned above.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

you complain about reagan and taxes, which pissed me off no end .. especially his “saving” social security by raising that tax from 2% to 15%;
But when Cuomo the Elder was governor he did something even more egregious. he signed an income tax increase that was to be phased in over 4 years; when the fourth year came around he was running for re-election, so he delayed implementing the final increase.. he touted it as the biggest tax CUT ever! it was no such thing.

ChetRollins
ChetRollins
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

The greatest redemption arc would be to hang Bush jr. for war crimes.
Things would sort themselves out after that.
Of course, that’s a LARP fantasy too, but all too satisfying.
 

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TorontoTraveller
TorontoTraveller
Reply to  ChetRollins
4 months ago

I am on the record (for what it’s worth) stating that in retrospect that Gore had win the first election.
 
That said, I do wish the eliminatory rhetoric would desist.
 
Chet – if all morons were to be hung, then how long for you, my dear?
 
I would miss your comments.
 

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

Call it the George Costanza strategy (for those familiar with the show)

ganderson
ganderson
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
4 months ago

opposite?

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  ganderson
4 months ago

yes..or should I say no?

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
4 months ago

“My name is George. I’m unemployed and I live with my parents.”
 
Pretty woman, seductively: “I’m Victoria. Hi.”

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

Z-man, you are cherry picking Reagan’s agenda. He ran on more that the old welfare queen cliches. He also ran on strengthening the US military and reestablishing its morale—destroyed under Carter. He was also a Cold War warrior and reclaimed the field and took up the battle with the USSR. Won’t go into the economics picture, but that was as important in an economy with 13% inflation and growing.   Point is, not all things could be done without complete control of Congress, he never had that. So compromise was in order. He wanted his 500 ship navy, Dem’s wanted… Read more »

TorontoTraveller
TorontoTraveller
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

How dare you, Z, pointout what has actually happened?
 
Seriously, this comment section, if you could do it, would deliver a hilariously predictable segmentation model.
 
Isn’t anyone going to assert what Eisenhower would have done?

tremain
tremain
Reply to  TorontoTraveller
4 months ago

Eisenhower federalized the national guard and used the 101st airborne to force black integration on state schools.

Sandmich
Sandmich
Reply to  bob sykes
4 months ago

Copying this from JudgeDread on Gab (who is no fan of Trump):

I’m voting for Trump and advise everyone else to.

That is also about survival. Trump may be a failure, but he is not a scheming enemy.

Biden’s cabinet will be all antifa and SJWs all of the time and they will never rest until every thought criminal is in federal prison.

Independant_George
Independant_George
Reply to  Sandmich
4 months ago

Exactly. The fact that 50% of Americans would vote for a corrupt, lying, demented kiddy fiddler rather than an expert business man who is a patriot is bizarre. Trump is America’s best chance of survival.

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  Independant_George
4 months ago

The best I can say for Trump is that he’s the only option for buying us more time to prepare for what’s ahead. One way or another Trump is gone in 2024, and 20-to-1 odds that he’s replaced by a Dem that will make us all pine for the good ol’ Obama days.   I’m sure a lot of folks here may vote for Trump, but it’s a matter of motive: 1) Vote for Trump because he’s a 3-D chess master, or 2) Vote for Trump because he shunts Stacey Abrams to 2024. As for me and my community, only… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  CAPT S
4 months ago

Trump was always a rear guard action. The only thing that could have made Trump a real victory for our side is if he had demanded a moratorium on immigration (legal and illegal). But, of course, he didn’t because he’s a CivNat Boomer.
 
We’re not getting out of our predicament through traditional politics. That’s over.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  CAPT S
4 months ago

Stacey Abrams sets me off like an M-80. Will vote for Trump or Felix the Cat or WTF if it pushes Angry Abrams or Angry Michelle back 4 years. Screw Trump accomplishing anything, and his horse too. Am so bored and done arguing over him. A few years out the stars might align for us to push back. Or not…will wait and see. Pushing now would be only kamikaze. Take care O Captain My Captain!
 

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CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

Yeah, I should just shut up and let the Trump supporters enjoy their remaining few months of Constitutional fantasy-land; that shiny, happy, indivisible Republic of E Pluribus Unum with liberty and justice for all.   Frankly, and it’s just a hunch, I don’t think Trump’s reelection is in the cards. It’s just not worth arguing about, particularly since some of Trump’s supporters are potential allies in What Comes Next. But the MAGA hat-wearing set, many of whom are my acquaintances? They sure don’t seem prepared for What Comes Next. Biden is the perfect President for the leftists … it’ll be… Read more »

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Independant_George
4 months ago

Trump will mean nothing to us after we leave America as we know it to form our own communities.
 

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SnowdensJacket
SnowdensJacket
Reply to  Sandmich
4 months ago

Voting is a joke and it’s likely that voting itself is inherently evil. Voting removes responsibility from the voters. As the world burns down around us voters look slack jawed as they mumble, ‘but I voted’.
 
Refuse to vote and regain your own personal responsibility. Until enough people realize voting is simply the act of giving away your own responsibility (and hence power) we will never find an actual solution for anything.

TorontoTraveller
TorontoTraveller
Reply to  SnowdensJacket
4 months ago

You are so smart that you are legitimately retarded. You are Rain Man.
 
Actually, what I am seeing is that Z is now attracting Bots to his comments section.
 
I am telling you peopke that we are.walking a fine line: Z does not have time to monitor his comments section for morons like Snow. It is.our duty to downvote.ir otherwise ostacize these.fools. Fools like Hun

SnowdensJacket
SnowdensJacket
Reply to  TorontoTraveller
4 months ago

Just vote bro it will solve everything

miforest
Member
Reply to  bob sykes
4 months ago

yes , bob

usNthem
usNthem
4 months ago

Trump’s blustering and threatening to do this or that – or else has been a big disappointment. Especially since he’s taken more s*** in the last four years than anything I’ve ever seen. He gets torn a new one 24/7/365 no matter what he does/doesn’t do, says/doesn’t say. It really is amazing what he’s put up with. My fantasy is he just says f*** it bitchez LARP time is over, and goes full turbo dictator. But, unfortunately that’s all it is.

Alzaebo
Reply to  usNthem
4 months ago

Release the Kracker

Randian Supremacist
Randian Supremacist
4 months ago

I’ve been consistent in voting in every national election since I could vote. I have seriously considered boycotting all elections from now on. I figure that all my vote does is signify my consent to the people who want to destroy me and my nation.   I’m not entirely convinced though. A part of me wonders if it might be beneficial if Trump gets another four years. A lot of these trump-tards are making the excuse that when Trump gets reelected he will have the freedom to act decisively against the swamp.   If we give trump the chance to… Read more »

Kevin
Kevin
Member
Reply to  Randian Supremacist
4 months ago

Second presidential terms are known for throwing the base under the bus.

Randian Supremacist
Randian Supremacist
Reply to  Kevin
4 months ago

Exactly, that’s what I would be hoping for.

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
4 months ago

Conservatives are the strangest people: if a leader doesn’t implement your 976 point plan immediately you walk off the field in a huff and let the other team win by default.   Leftists don’t act that way. They just want to move that needle to the left, bit by bit, a little every day. Remember gay rights? “We just want to get married.” Now you’ve got to bake that cake, suck that cock, and let your son be turned into a daughter.   That’s what moving the needle does. Leftists play a long game and they’re good at it.  … Read more »

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MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
4 months ago

Trump had the opportunity to move the country to the right, but failed, and the backlash will just move us further to the Left.
 
He truly is our Louis XVI. Recall that no one was talking about abolishing the French Monarchy until Louis tried to bolt the country and got caught. That’s when he lost the crown, and ultimately his head.
 
Failure moves the Overton Window the opposite direction, something the Q-Types would do well to learn.

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

Trump’s loading of the federal court system with conservative judges will change things for the better for a generation. That’s one positive thing off the top of my head. For detailed discussion of the positive things he’s done for immigration see https://www.numbersusa.com.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
4 months ago

Dissidents reject the notion of being ruled by Kings in Black Robes.
 
Has Trump done anything on immigration that will prevent a Permanent Demographic Majority for Democrats in the next decade?

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

If you’re asking for the President to undo 60 years of stupidity in 4 years, you’re either a fool or a leftist attempting to demoralize us into just laying down and dying.
 
 
 

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MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
4 months ago

You seem to be new here, so let me fill you in:   This is a Dissident Right outlet, run by a Dissident Right author. Neither this outlet’s proprietor nor most of us long-time commenters believe that a country based on the 1787 Constitution can be saved.   Trump gave us some false hope, but we’re intellectually honest people and understand that it was never to be.   As for this November? As Z said in Friday’s podcast “If Biden wins, things might be marginally worse, but I don’t think it makes a huge difference either way.”   I’m not… Read more »

Goetz
Goetz
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

Finally an old-timer tells us what’s going on awound here, but where’s the manifesto?

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

You do realize there is no hiding from the war against whites in the coming decade.
You think it’s bad now, just wait until Fat Stacy is running things, it will be Zimbabwe 2. And since resistance is a foreign word among Dissident Whites I see a lot one way trips to the incinerator or quarry.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 months ago

I couldn’t agree more about the Gap-Toothed Sheeboon, but it will be the NormieCons who are making those trips you mentioned.
 
Some of us have already spent the last three years hiding in plain sight, and have lots of practice at it.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 months ago

So?
 
We won’t be in America after blatantly overt war on whites is declared (as opposed to just overt).
 
For the next little while, the left will continue to waste its time by sucking its own dick whilst simultaneously trying to bite it off. It can’t control anything that isn’t media or politics.
Start now and we might not be worth the trouble.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Lanky
4 months ago

Ouch! Painful metaphor 🙂

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

Meme….maybe I’m overwrought today but as of this moment I am both rearranging the handsome deck chairs and quite aware the ship is going down. My BIG button is being bullied by the angry-eyed mulatto mafia bitches screaming reparations at us. See RWC below. As I can multi task, surviving to reach shore and building something new is paramount.
Thornton Wilder/The Skin of Our Teeth was right! Some things never change.
 

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Schlomo
Schlomo
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
4 months ago

the problem is you think he’s trying to undo something? He’s not undoing anything he strengthening it. He tweets that he’s thinking about doing things but he never does it. Why? He doesn’t want to. Israel didn’t have to wait a week to get everything it wanted. Whites will wait forever.

sorry, but he’s not on our team. He never was. What’s more is that no politician or institution is. We are completely in our own.

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Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
4 months ago

He’s a long-time, frequent commenter. Disagree without being a dick.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
4 months ago

Monk, keep reading. You’ll find Meme to be wiser than you think, albeit she brooks no excuses.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

Dissidents may reject it, but it is the reality we live under. You can’t change the reality without dealing with it.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  c matt
4 months ago

And how do you suggest dealing with it? By tweeting about “strongly considering” stuff?
 
The reality is that Trump is the last BadWhite who will have an opportunity to effect events for a long time. He may or may not prevail in November, but after he does leave the Ascendants will rule until they f**k up on an Allende-level.

Alzaebo
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

Quite so, Meme, what it proves is that there are 3 things that matter in a democracy:
 
Demographics, demographics, and demographics.

Pickle Rick
Member
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
4 months ago

Won’t matter a damn bit when, not if, the leftists get control again. They don’t care what judges say, if they don’t want to. They do what they want, and play by their own rules, which they make and they change whenever it suits them. Legality is a convenient fiction.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Pickle Rick
4 months ago

I agree that lefties do whatever they want, but one of the key ways they have done this is with lefty judges. It does make a difference. Your 2A rights will be gone if they get a majority on the Supreme Court.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

You mean like how our First Amendment rights were tossed out by a Republican appointee?
 

Kevin
Kevin
Member
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
4 months ago

Why would Trump’s judicial picks be any better than his cabinet picks?

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Kevin
4 months ago

That’s an interesting question. I often wonder what happened between Nov. 2016 and Jan. 2017. Especially as regards the ME. Trump went after the Saudis from 9/11 until his election. Then his 1st trip is to go dance with the Saudis and make nice. Doesn’t make sense.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
4 months ago

Styx Maynard-Hammer’s sock account located.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Exile
4 months ago

NumbersUSA opposes using race or ethnicity as immigration criteria.
 
Stopped reading after that.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
4 months ago

I’d agree with you if we were having this discussion in 2000. Now, it’s too late for moving the national needle a bit at time. We don’t have that time anymore. The demographic tide is rolling in and won’t be stopped.
 
You’re right, Leftists play the long game, and they won. That game is over. They will control the presidency within a decade and the House soon thereafter. That means they control the judiciary. The political game is over. The current game is trying to build a community that can defend itself from a hostile government and larger society.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
4 months ago

Really? Have you checked the tweets coming out of the West Wing(Trump and Javanka)? Have you noticed who Trump chose as head of National Intelligence?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
4 months ago

Without specifics Monk, let me just add to your spot on analysis that we—as a group—have let our virtues be used as a weapon against ourselves. Had we played by the rules set by our enemies, we’d not be in this calamitous end game.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
4 months ago

Trump is the president we need! A place holder who tweets.The only way to kill the dueling conservative fantasies about Trump saving and defending legacy America is to let the rulers and their feral mobs run wild until the scales finally fall from the eyes of conservative America. Half measures will only reinforce and give those fantasies a second wind. Better to let things bottom out now than to breathe life back into the system and allow it to limp along for another decade. Let’s bottom out and await the rise of Pres. Stacy Abrams…then maybe nostalgia America will finally… Read more »

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Schlomo
Schlomo
4 months ago

The entire country is a fantasy. I can’t wait for the worshipping of blacks that’s going to happen in the wake of this. Whites simply can’t come to grips with the reality of the situation and that the only path left to them is the one that liberal society says is completely off limits to them and that’s racial awareness and solidarity. They just won’t do it. I expect different degrees of burning to go on for the next decade as whites cling to their precious classical liberal ideals and prostrate themselves before their foreign conquerors.

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Schlomo
4 months ago

Yeah it’s funny. People know about divide and conquer, but in America they think that means division between the races.

 

It obviously doesn’t matter to tptb that cities are burning over racial divisions. What keeps them up at night is race consciousness among whites. Trump’s sin of sins was accepting Pepe. Even if it was a cynical move, simply signaling that it’s OK to be white can’t be tolerated.

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tremain
tremain
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

Have you not seen the kneeling and asking forgiveness of your new black masters?
 
This is going to be the new mask virtue signalling.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  tremain
4 months ago

I have. What I mean is whites being divided against themselves is the issue. The kneelers aren’t saying they love blacks, they’re saying they hate whites and themselves for being white.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Schlomo
4 months ago

Boy, I hope black worship doesn’t get any worse than it is now or we will truly and irrevocably screwed. All we’ve heard day in and day out is how much pain and hurt the black coonmunity is in. Pain & hurt my ass – a sizable percentage just saw this as an opportunity to f things up more than they do naturally, on a regular basis, while at the same time grabbing a little bling. I saw two things today that were disturbing: one was a video on twatter of some blm jogger(admittedly well spoken) who runs up to… Read more »

Alzaebo
Reply to  usNthem
4 months ago

And we thought #MeToo naggers were bad

I actually listened to a few sports stations, although I’m allergic to sports. They don’t have any games to talk about, so…

My gods. She-Man was insufferable, but Jogga Cripes will be intolerable.

The Great Negrification is at hand.

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Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  usNthem
4 months ago

Why do CEOs, actors, sportsballers think that their virtue is relevant?

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
4 months ago

What disappoints me is how weak he’s proving to be. He’s allowed cities to burn and society to be locked down. In the last 3 months!

The thing is, he used to have fight in him. Where did it go?

Schlomo
Schlomo
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

if whites had rioted he would have wiped all the protesters out in 24 hours.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Schlomo
4 months ago

Maybe, maybe not. He’s still the same guy who once said that some Charlottesville protestors were fine people. That was off script.

Riots would obviously be a different matter, but does anyone seriously think whites would riot right now? Otoh Tucker Carlson talking civil disobedience says things might be changing.

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Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

What did Tucker Carlson say about civil disobedience?

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Federalist
4 months ago
Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Schlomo
4 months ago

One good thing the riots do is show TV watchers who is actually doing the rioting, shooting, looting, breaking and burning.
 

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tremain
tremain
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

He was always complicit in the plan. Trump is a Judas goat and always was.
He goes on and on about minorities and for some reason everyone thinks he the last gasp of white America.
He is as much a part of this transition to a new South Africa as everyone else.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  tremain
4 months ago

I think he buckled after Charlottesville, and if he felt public opinion shifted the other way he’d change his tune. He’s a politician. Whatever his real feelings, he has to go with the flow to some extent or get destroyed. He used to buck it more at any rate.

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vxxc💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
4 months ago

That Trump has done nothing for white separatism is true, but he never ran on that. That he has done nothing is untrue. Had he dropped have done more than any Prez since Reagan. He has done much, just not enough.

his real problem is he’s not a killer, and we need one as POTUS. Never mind the Constitution, sanity will do.

We don’t need Hitler, we need Stalin to purge the Communists, or at least dominate them,

JMDGT
Member
4 months ago

Trump is leading the illusion of the United Socialist States of Amerika. The citizens play at loving him hating him and everything in between. It is of no consequence. Not many know or understand where they need be. It is different with almost everyone. Emotional channeling of anger can be a positive motivation as long as the house of anger is not lived in too long. Oppressed dissident whites have been to the mountain top and know what needs to be done. Some things are worse than death. It is time to rid ourselves of The White Man’s Burden. The… Read more »

Leonard E Herr
Leonard E Herr
4 months ago

All true. And Trump is still the best president of my life (I’m 63). Think about that for a moment.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Leonard E Herr
4 months ago

sadly true

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
4 months ago

“This is a form of false consciousness.”
 
Exactly. Will it last if the violence is not meant with a federal response, as Trump said? Probably.
 
The best symbol in my mind of how pathetic conservatism is manifests in law enforcement “taking a knee” with “protestors.” It is simultaneously vomit-inducing and hilarious.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Don’t you worry…those kneeling cops are going to roll hard and heavy on any suburban or rural YTs who get frisky and dust off some vibrant looters with their ARs.
 
YTs response at that time will determine if there is any liberty in his future or if he can plan on an eternity as a slave/catamite/dinner for America’s vibrant future people.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Kind of weird considering the cop ‘took a knee’ on George Floyd’s neck.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

They were beating him up in the cop car, too.
 
These were two perps- one on parole, the other on ‘the payroll’- they knew each other, and the legbreaker took the opp to settle some minor score when he saw his old chum back doing his usual stupid.
 
If they were both black, we wouldn’t even know their names- they’d just be “another 49 dead this weekend in Dinduland”.
 
Meanwhile, there’s some lady in Texas ( where Floyd was in prison)- she remembers the home invasion, and is now thinking, “Karma’s a bitch, eh?”

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

I think it went well beyond settling a minor score. I think both were into something shady via the nightclub.
 
The cop either saw an opportunity to silence a guy who could rat on him or the criminal higher ups saw an opportunity to tie up an obvious loose end and ordered the hit.
 
Not sure at what point the other dark forces out there realized that the hit had the potential to foment riots and civil unrest. Maybe they offered Floyd’s family a huge payout and the guy went willingly, with martyrdom a bonus in the deal.

tremain
tremain
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 months ago

Its not real. He did not die. Its a staged photo op.

Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
4 months ago

Fear. It is one of the most powerful motivators to get people to either embrace a lie or avoid the truth becoming almost incapable of processing it.   I noticed this with people in my life, when I try to red pill them if i am not careful some will say it literally puts their stomachs in knots. Thats for stuff I consider mild stuff you can see in the news if youre looking.   I notice a similar phenomenon with active shooter events. When the event begins people will often be upset because someone is setting off fireworks, or… Read more »

Alzaebo
Reply to  Irishfarmer
4 months ago

“the alt right is just bio leninism for whites which is why it can never accomplish what it wants: theres not enough bio in their leninism.”

 

It is!

It’s Nature’s way.

Not enough bio is our strength and our weakness. So well put.

Last edited 4 months ago by Alzaebo
Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Irishfarmer
4 months ago

”the economy is capitalism and capitalism is the source of all of our problems. Well, that and a certain group.”

 

Markets and private property are good. These are