The Chaos Election

If any other president in recent history was facing both wide scale riots and an economic depression before his reelection, the smart money would be on the side of the challenger, regardless of his quality. For the longest time, conventional wisdom has said re-election campaigns are a referendum on the times as much as the performance of the sitting president and his party. Despite the gloom and doom, Trump’s re-election chances remain a coin toss at this point in time.

Part of it is the fact that Joe Biden is a relic from a bygone age, a relic suffering from severe cognitive decline. If not for the shenanigans of the party, Bernie Sanders would be the nominee of the party right now. At best, the party would be looking at a deadlocked convention, from which they could select an alternative to a fossilized communist and a dementia sufferer. Trump versus a tattered museum piece is about the best match-up Trump can get in November.

Even so, this election is probably the first in this new cycle that was ushered in by the 2016 election. Maybe the 2016 election could be called the first post-post-Cold War election, but no one knew it at the time. This time, everyone seems to know that the rules are different and the forces shaping the election are different. Trump the Mule, the guy who breaks things and disrupts the natural order has changed the normal re-election pattern as well. This will be a different election.

That’s why the skeptical on-looker should be cautious about judging Trump’s behavior by the conventional metrics. For example, he has been tweeting during the black riots about how great he has been to the black people. This tweet was relentlessly mocked, but Trump will no doubt stick with it. Critics scoff that he is just a delusional civic nationalist groveling to blacks. From now until the election, he will talk about how he has been the best thing for black people since emancipation.

The thing that people on this side of the great divide often miss is that sentiment carries a lot of weight among white voters. This side is often too spergy to appreciate the value of gesture, but in the age of gesture politics, the sentiment counts for a lot. Trump’s apparent concern for blacks counts for a lot with his base. Those older white voters really do care about race relations. These riots, at one level anger them, but at another level they sadden them. They hate seeing it.

Take a look at those scenes of whites kneeling and bowing. The crowd always skews older, with lots of gray ponytails in the scene. Granted, these are aging libs looking for some final redemption before they die. That said, it is just an exaggerated sentiment common with older white people. They spent their whole lives trying to make race relations better. Even the right-wingers think it is really important for blacks to feel included in American life. It’s a big part of who they are.

That’s why Trump plays to that sentiment. His ham-fisted appeal to blacks is not really aimed at blacks, but at older whites who decide our elections. He’s never going to win over the gray ponytail crowd, but he will appeal to the weekday golf crowd. They see his earnest appeal to blacks and think well of Trump, despite the black youth rioting in the streets in every city. Talk to the sort of older white who has been vexed by Trump’s tweeting in the past and they are eating this up.

It’s also the nature of his appeal. He is not blathering about dignity and respect or any of the crap you hear from activists. He’s talking economics, things like jobs and crime, the sorts of tangible things that resonate with older white people. The Zoomers can mock the materialism of the Baby Boomers, but politics is about reality. Trump is appealing to the most important part of the electorate where they are, not where the Zoomers would like them to be. It will most likely work.

Not too put too fine a point on it, but look at what just happened in Iowa, a state in the heart of the Cuck Belt. Steve King was defeated in the GOP primary by some loser who will happily flood the state with Africans. If King was the nominee, he would win the general election for sure, but GOP voters could not tolerate someone labeled a racist by the inner party. The sin of racism is so powerful to the old whites that make up the GOP primary electorate, no one can survive a hint of it.

There’s also the black vote. Trump is relentlessly mocked for courting the black vote, but he may not be as dumb as he seems on this issue. The closest comparison in history to Trump at the moment is Richard Nixon. After the riots in 1968, Nixon won 14% of the black vote. This was the guy who ran the Southern Strategy, which was allegedly a crypto-racist appeal to former Klansmen. Clearly, blacks were motivated by something other than the superficial appeal to race.

The truth is, black voters, a distinct subset of black people, are a very conservative voting bloc. The thing is, they are conservative in the traditional sense of the word, not the neoconservative sense. That is, they don’t give a crap about economics as much as they care about their people. They look around at the riots and see this as a threat to their people and their communities. Blacks as a whole may have outlandishly high crime rates, but black voters incline toward law and order.

Trump will never win a big share of the black vote. Critics who think he thinks he can win the black vote are more delusional than they accuse Trump of being. What Trump is up to is appealing to that core black vote. If the choice is between an old white guy siding with the rioters and old white guy promising jobs, they will be much less motivated to come out in big numbers. That’s why Trump is working so hard to frame the choice for blacks in exactly this fashion.

The thing about the 2020 election is it will be a purely in the moment election, in that it will turn on how people feel at the moment. Trump the chaos agent won in 2016 because he had the knack of keeping people on edge. Some who never voted, responded by voting for the first time. Some who always voted one party stayed home or switched to a third party in a moment of anger.  Trump is a guy who likes chaos and seeks to create it in all of his endeavors.

In the moment, people act on instinct. That’s what Trump is betting on for his re-election this fall. If things are in total flux, his opponents are unable to get footing. More important, the voters are unable to settle into comfortable patterns. Riots, plague and economic devastation is maximum chaos. Voters may instinctively go with what appears to be the safe choice, but is just the familiar choice. More important, they will not be thinking about it, but rather acting on instinct.


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PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
4 months ago

//:0//:0Check out the picture of Biden kneeling before the assembled AME …. Supplicant? (can’t figure out how to post it)

PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
Reply to  PrimiPilus
4 months ago

From Conservative Treehouse. He does catch some good stuff. Good point out on the upcoming national-flagellation staged in the promised THREE funerals.
 

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Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  PrimiPilus
4 months ago

He’s currently up to four funerals. (Seriously). Floyd Mayweather is paying for them.

tremain
tremain
Reply to  Federalist
4 months ago

Are they going to dig him up nd rebury him after each one?

Member
Reply to  tremain
4 months ago

At first I though you were talking about Biden, who of course would be America’s first Zombie-American President.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  PrimiPilus
4 months ago

Check out this quick video of the ferals looting a moving train here in Chicago: https://twitter.com/i/status/1267921196877778944
 
How many shoes and TVs do these people NEED?

rich
Member
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
4 months ago

As many as they think they can sell.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  rich
4 months ago

Sorry folks, this is way off topic.
But I think this artical from the Conservative Treehouse needs to be shared as soon as possible.
Riots Cancelled – Grievance Network Back Together Again – Former President Obama and Floyd Family Attorney, Ben Crump, Now Execute Phase Two…
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/03/riots-cancelled-grievance-network-back-together-again-former-president-obama-and-floyd-family-attorney-ben-crump-now-execute-phase-two/
 
 
 
 

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Yak-15
Yak-15
4 months ago

Is there any doubt at this point that within a year of Trump leaving office he will be assassinated?

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Yak-15
4 months ago

He’ll be chucked in prison first

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

Nah. If I’ve learned one thing after Bush and Obama, former Presidents are never held to any reckoning. EVER. End of story.

miforest
Member
Reply to  ProZNoV
4 months ago

both bush and obama were deep state patsy’s . trump is not . his only hope of not going to jail is kushner and his …….cohort they have…… a little influence in DC and they may veto retribution because of his stead fast support of their …concerns.
 
 

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AnotherAnon
AnotherAnon
Reply to  ProZNoV
4 months ago

Nixon was helicoptered out to San Clemente. Trump and family will have to go overseas – maybe one of his hotels.

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d. deacon
d. deacon
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

he will be given some long sheets, then change out the guards and turning off cameras for a small time window, leaving cell unsupervised for enough time until…

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Yak-15
4 months ago

It will be attempted if he is re-elected prior to inauguration. But, yes, the terror will continue. To be blunt, given how much Trump has sucked up to the GOP Establishment, it is a good thing he has been treated so abysmally because it has dampened that impulse.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Yak-15
4 months ago

Doubtful.
 
hell be forgotten within days of leaving. Assuming he makes it out alive.
 
One of the problems with current America is that it’s always day zero – society exists in an eternal present, none remember the past or can accurately foresee future consequences.
 
Shortly after leaving office Trump will be replaced by a new demon to rally against.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
4 months ago

No way. Trump’s insult to the morality of our Elite is so profound that they are going to destroy him his children his grandchildren and destroy the whole line if they can. I’m not a trump fan but I can see that

miforest
Member
Reply to  Whitney
4 months ago

I fear you are correct whitney , this would be a warning to any other ” non approved ” person from teying to run off with the presidency in the future.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Whitney
4 months ago

Good point, but I’m doubtful “destroy” as in assassination is in the cards. To assassinate is to create martyrdom. If a lesson is to be taught, you must break the man and drive all acolytes away.

UFO
UFO
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Trump is an incredible man. It’s inspiring that he still hasn’t been broken. In fact he looks more determined than ever. The photo-op with the Bible showed a battle-hardened and grizzled brawler.
I worry about his health, but his grit is really inspirational.
He is disappointing in terms of policy but he’s one man surrounded by thousands of snakes and 60+ years of deep state treachery and incompetence in motion.
 

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Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  UFO
4 months ago

No offense, but you have incredibly low standards to be impressed by a politician. For an opportunist the guy is incredibly lazy.

d. deacon
d. deacon
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

you can assassinate after the martyr can be safely deemed a criminal.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
4 months ago

Yup. Don’t need a god, but you must have a devil.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Yak-15
4 months ago

Is there any doubt at this point that within a year of Trump leaving office you’ll be a Borg Drone? Your bloodlust is a symptom of a deep spiritual sickness. Look in the mirror, and ask yourself some serious questions about your humanity.
 
 
 
 

Ace Rimmer
Ace Rimmer
4 months ago

Mencken nods.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
4 months ago

If the election were held today Biden likely would win. Nonetheless, if I had to bet on the outcome, my money would be on Trump. The riots have started to hit where the Karens and wine moms live, and it’s probably a good strategy to let their neighborhoods burn a while before acting.
 
Brilliant line about this being an “in the moment” election, and quite true. That makes it next to impossible to spin. Advantage: Trump.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Let me add something about Steve King, too. It should be a cautionary to two groups of people on our side. First warning goes to the MAGA types who thinks Trump has changed the GOP. He has not in any substantive way. Cucks rule the roost in that party even today. Second warning goes to the accelerationist types. Take a hard look at King’s defeat. The only thing that will be accelerated as things stand will be the last barriers against non-white communists consolidating power.   We aren’t there yet, but it is a good guess these riots, particularly if… Read more »

Sandmich
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Worth noting that King had been stripped of his committee assignments. It’s been the case for a long time that if you have a congressman without any meaningful committee assignments it’s as good as not having a congressman at all. So his voters had to decide if sending King back as a protest vote was a meaningful trade-off for getting absolutely nothing out of D.C. It’s not as easy a call as dissidents might make it out to be.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Sandmich
4 months ago

What important committee work has been done in the House of Representatives this Congress? No, Iowa Republican voters in the 4th Congressional District are all too ready to virtue signal and prevent Steve King’s re-election.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Jack, this is a good place to talk about the weasel, Jared Kushner. Trump’s policies are being sabotaged from within the White House… https://vdare.com/articles/could-the-end-be-near-for-trump-subverter-jared-kushner?scroll_to_paragraph=7

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 months ago

Kushner is pure cancer, no doubt. Trump probably only had a handful of people he could trust during what was an outright coup attempt and Kushner was one of them.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 months ago

And don’t forget Kushner’s little Gun Control Barbie wife. She cries and Daddy gets her another pony.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Well, that’s precisely what Trump is doing. He has no incentive to rush military units into a liberal bastion like Minneapolis and then get blamed for the ensuing loss of life. Lefty planted that garden, let him pull the weeds. The dumb libs will eventually get a belly full of it and blame their own politicians. Look at the acrimonious Cuomo vs. DeBlasio rift. That is exactly the kind of internecine conflict we need to encourage among our foes.
 
 
 

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Pickle Rick
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 months ago

Oh, the Left will blame the Bad Orange Man readily enough for not swooping in with our heroes in uniform, or blame him for sending in the troops when they oppress their sacred joggers. Either way, Orange Satan gets full blame rather than the Democratic politicals, because when it comes to unity, they don’t do like our Republicans, ever ready to stab each other in the back, or us, time and again.   Of course the true conservative Republicans will be waiting in the wings with knives out to stab him in the back for either course he takes as… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 months ago

Can we just call Minneapolis “Lagos on the Mississippi” from now on?
 
(no, wait. That could also be St. Louis. or Memphis. Disregard)

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Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  ProZNoV
4 months ago

Not Lagos. Minneapolis has been Mogadishu on the Mississipi for quite a while now.

Lanky
Lanky
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 months ago

I have an idea: how about Cuomo activates our healthcare heroes to deal with the riots? Police and nurses together would be so heroic it would make superman menstruate with delight. Maybe if enough of them take a knee I’ll mercifully die of disgust.
 
 
 
 

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Lurker
Lurker
4 months ago

In his book “ The art of the Deal “ he said to give up those things that don’t cost any money , especially things that carry only symbolic value . 
 
Is it possible that most of those scenes of White obeisance before the negro , are staged to provide social proof for suckers ? 

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
4 months ago

<I>His ham-fisted appeal to blacks is not really aimed at blacks, but at older whites who decide our elections. </I>
 
The reality is that the left’s Afro-Philia isn’t aimed at blacks, it’s aimed at leveraging white guilt. A certain level of black voting is just taken for granted.
 
Blacks are just a prop used by both sides.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
4 months ago

Maybe, but I think that a growing number of whites are starting to truly believe the rhetoric. It’s like a religious fanaticism is taking over whites – and that religion is the Cult of Equality.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

I agree that it’s a form of religion, but I think that it’s better called the Cult of Negro Veneration.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 months ago

Of making you venerate, kemosabe.

Of making you kneel.

 

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a sermon from a a synagogue demanding that the kosher seek redemption from their darker brethren.

“Oh no, not that again!”

Well, now there’s a poster showing the young leaders of antifa- and guess what?

Youuu guessed it.

All blue Stars, just like media!

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Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

When Antifa has done it’s job of pasting the blame on white people, the blue stars will either have or go back to their sinecures.

That’s what happened with the McMicheals and the Christian day care centers- satanic pedophiles wanted to paint a picture that the innocent Christians were satanic pedophiles.

Projection; Inversion; reverse curse-spells of words and imagery.

That’s why and how only a Bernays could cook up an art called Propaganda. None of this is “crazy”– it’s mage war.

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Alzaebo
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Hold on! Another case of reverse word-spells, curses hidden in esoteric mysticism.
 
They don’t worship “equality”.
What they worship, is being Against White Supremacy.
 
They would never advocate for your rights.
 
Dragging you down is all that concerns them (so they can “steal it back”.)

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

You’re right. It’s not equality they seek. It’s the destruction and subjugation of me and my people.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
4 months ago

so correct, derb called this out years ago. I have bee a fan of his for years .
 

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Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
4 months ago

Here’s the thing. Goodwhites, up to now, have been able to take the masturbatory action of speaking and posturing as “allies” of Antifa and especially BLM, without any personal cost. The dynamic of what is going on now is going to force them to make a choice, to either shut up and stand down, or to directly involve themselves in all the crazy that is going on in the streets. The true believers and activist leadership are going to demand “put up or shut up”, either by giving over a bunch of their own money and wealth, or getting out… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
4 months ago

What is white guilt about? Never understood it, never felt it, never took to it in school.
 
I suspect it’s a lazy way of dealing with bad conscience. “It’s not something I chose to do, it’s that I’m white.”

Epaminondas
Member
4 months ago

It is difficult for me to try to rationalize voter sentiment when half of them have IQs lower than 100. And this is where our corrupt Media Class comes in. They know all the hot buttons and they have no compunction about pushing them.

Howard Beale
Howard Beale
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 months ago

Make that more than half.

CAPT S
CAPT S
4 months ago

This is the crux: <i>”The thing about the 2020 election is it will be a purely in the moment election, in that it will turn on how people feel at the moment.”</i>   There’s really not a lot of analysis needed beyond that statement. Much as both sides of the political spectrum like to bloviate about rights and truth and justice, the typical universal suffrage voter doesn’t give a rat’s rump for anything beyond his personal gravy train. Another thing is that the election boils down to what? – about 15% of undecideds? How are these 15% swayed? Thirty-second ads,… Read more »

Drake
Drake
4 months ago

I can’t see Biden winning. I try to picture him on a stage debating Trump and it just doesn’t work. Trump would mock him for a while, then at least pretend to feel bad about beating up the old senile guy. Biden would get flustered and release a stream of incoherent frontier gibberish.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  Drake
4 months ago

Which is why we will never have debates. Corona was the best thing to happen to Biden. As long as he is sheltered by a media that ignores or coached him, he can be an empty vessel.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Tykebomb
4 months ago

Maybe, although Trump would spend September calling him out and mocking him.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Drake
4 months ago

But Biden’s likely response to Trump’s insults will be macho bluster, which will trigger more macho bluster from Trump.
 
Biden will challenge Trump to a push up contest or an IQ test. Trump will call Biden a pussy. They will probably hold a spontaneous arm wrestling contest.
 
I’m telling you, the Trump v. Biden debates may be some of the most entertaining and ridiculous spectacles you have ever seen.

Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
4 months ago

I expect to see Trump come out in a Mexican wrestler’s mask and hit Biden with a folding chair. From there the debates will become less dignified.

Lanky
Lanky
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
4 months ago

It would be hilarious to see two old guys calling each other pussies and beating the shit out of each other.
 
I wonder if big media truly understand how unintentionally comical they are to everyone but themselves.

Severian
4 months ago

I like it! It’s natural to see Trump as either a big dumb goon, or an n-dimensional chess master, depending on the direction of your wishcasting, but for all his manifest weaknesses the guy IS a shrewd businessman, and the first thing in business is to know who you’re dealing with. That’s how I read the declaration of “Antifa” as a terrorist organization — he knows he’s really dealing with Soros et al. Invoke the Insurrection Act, put Soros’ lily-white shock troops on Federal trial in front of military tribunals, and watch the fun. I don’t think he’s actually going… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Severian
4 months ago

 military tribunals and firing squads. It does have a certain attractive ring to it.

Severian
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 months ago

As I say, it’ll never happen. Our active duty military is full of gays, girls, trannies, and SJWs; I shudder to think at the kind of genderfluid pansexual hose beasts that must make up the National Guard. At this point, it’s even money that they drop their weapons and join in the looting. It’s a bluff, but it’s a pretty good bluff… and a man can dream.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Severian
4 months ago

Well, I wouldn’t go that far…but…now that I think of it, wasn’t too long ago we had NO police join the looters in Walmart after Katrina. So there is precedent isn’t there?

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Severian
4 months ago

Antifa has not been declared a terrorist organization. I doubt it will ever be declared such. They are too useful.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Hun
4 months ago

There is no authority for Trump to declare such—unless, he can connect Antifa to a foreign agent. Otherwise it’s a local terrorist organization and no law prohibiting or naming such exists.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Isn’t antifa international in its construct? Would that apply a connection to “a foreign agent.”?

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Severian
4 months ago

No, Sev, it’s all just talk. And talk is cheap. A shrewd real estate developer gets things built, usually at a profit but with at least enough cash flow to perpetuate the enterprise. What tangible thing has MAGA built? It looks more like the abandoned hole of a bankrupt project with each passing day. The era of steel for railroads, then for skyscrapers, has ended. Instead we get ubiquitous access to porn and tweets and TikTok idiocy and all manner of 24/7 bloviation on our amazing “talk machines” brought to us by the amazing geniuses of Silicon Valley. Silicon isn’t… Read more »

BerndV
BerndV
4 months ago

OT: looks like WordPress de-platformed Western Rifle Shooters.

Carrie
Reply to  BerndV
4 months ago

:
Crap. I was worried that that would happen eventually.
Thanks for sharing the news with us all. I haven’t been over to WRSA in a while.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
4 months ago

You’re probably correct, he more than likely has a lock on the weekday golfers and on older blacks. In 2016 he squeaked by with a majority of white women and a majority of Asian men. That’s probably not going to happen this time around. Both now see White men as weakened so their instinct will be to bet on the socially approved horse. More older voters have died off and more younger voters are now on the rolls. The shifting sands work in his favor but demographics have gotten worse…so is that trade-off 6 of this and 6 of that…or… Read more »

Drake
Drake
4 months ago

WordPress deplatformed Bracken’s blog yesterday. How long before they do the same here?

Drake
Drake
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

That’s good – the difference between “hosted” and “powered by” elude me.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Drake
4 months ago

At the risk of appearing to live in the Stone Age, is it really a Herculean task to start and run an organization like WordPress?
is there some magic spell or code?
i thought this when Chateau went down, and now WRSA. I confess I would not know where to begin. Being held hostage by organizations that despise you doesn’t seem like a good business model.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
4 months ago

WRSA?

Alzaebo
Reply to  miforest
4 months ago

Western Rifle Shooters Association.
 
The gold was in the prepper links, as WRSA didn’t carry ads.
 
They were flag waving patriots who wouldn’t say “Shlomo”, old-fashioned defenders who stayed away from the anti-semitism–
 
But it was the veteran tactical links that brought them down. They were starting to talk serious, and making too much noise about boogaloo.
 
Somebody please, tell me what the heck was “bleib ulbreg”??

BerndV
BerndV
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

WRSA has been heavy on CW2/boogaloo for a very long time. I’m sure the current anarchy is what prompted the de-platform.

Carrie
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

“Bleib übrig” is German, and it means “to stay or remain; to be left over.”
Pron: “bleib” has a “long i” sound, so we’re not pronouncing it as “bleeb” (like bleed) … But rather as it’s written: the same sound as the “i” in “right.”
übrig = “oo-brig”
Here’s a good link: (Reverso is a good tool) https://dictionary.reverso.net/german-english/ubrig

Pickle Rick
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

Bleib übrig was a phrase that Germans began using after 1943 as a substitute for goodbye or see ya later, when the combined bomber offensive was reducing German cities to rubble. It took on another meaning in 1945 as the Red Army approached, with their propensity for sacking cities with the attendant rape and murder.   Since WRSA was all about prepping and Civil War II and tacticool muh guns, they cast back to the collapse of Germany in 1945 as a touchstone or benchmark, copping a catchphrase from then. I looked in once in a while, but it seemed… Read more »

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
4 months ago

More than a third of all websites run on WordPress. A software that was written by a 12 year old boy, btw.

Sandmich
Reply to  Drake
4 months ago

Z runs WordPress, but he isn’t on WordPress’s hosting service.

usNthem
usNthem
4 months ago

The last six months have been one for the record books, but I got a feeling we ain’t seen nuthin yet.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  usNthem
4 months ago

The Globalists are like 5 year olds, testing the limits of what they can get away with.
 
They’re learning it is quite a lot.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

The stuff going on is new to the US but hardly new to Latin America. Hell Antifa is now using Shining Path style tactics https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/groups-taking-photos-of-homes-with-police-cars-in-driveways/ The dissonance comes from us being unwilling to admit we a dying empire rapidly becoming just another country in the Americas, run like one, populated like one, unstable like one. The reason is immigration yes but more importantly our leadership is incapable of solving even the long standing core problems that could in theory be solved. Worse when we attempt to solve what seems to be an immediate crisis , like when a novel virus… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  usNthem
4 months ago

 worst riots since at least worst riots since at least the 1960s. Obama’s father civil war was in the future even before 2020. It looks a lot closer now.

Pardon the incoherent post. I can’t even added it on my phone for some reason.

How about a delete option?

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 months ago

Try double tapping the box where you want to type. Was having a hard time myself before I figured that out.

Carrie
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 months ago

I actually thought the double “since at least” was meant to be there.
It actually reads as being witty: since this is not the first time since the 60’s that we’ve seen this type of behaviour.
 

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 months ago

I’d agree, we’ve not seen anything like this since 67-68. But three things I think makes these different—1) lots of Whites, 2) organization, 3) police/government indifference or inability to contain such.
 

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
4 months ago

it’s important to remember that all of the bad stuff is happening in dem run states (and cities) only. and the nation is watching dem officials stand down and open the gates to the invaders. dem communities are being burned out and the officials are on tv talking about white supremacists. so yeah, Trump is going to win 50 states and the dems are going to be annihilated at the state and city levels too.

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Karl McHungus
4 months ago

When politicians complain about “white supremacy,” what they’re really doing is promoting non-white supremacy. It is that simple.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Lurker
4 months ago

I watch little TV, but I’m assuming that videos show (and text describes) mostly black, some white, people acting badly. Isn’t this in a way, advertising for our side? If normal people think that burning down your city, looting stores, and shooting cops is democratic free expression, we surely are doomed.

De Beers Diamonds
De Beers Diamonds
Reply to  Karl McHungus
4 months ago

Every white woman under 30 that went to university is basically a BLM shill, or will face social exclusion.
 
Mock them as they deserve, but these people have power. If not for “white college” women of all ages, Trump would be easily re-elected.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  De Beers Diamonds
4 months ago

On facebook, every white person I know who’s posting at this time about white privilege, BLM, systemic racism, white fragility (whatever the hell that is) are women. They eat this nonsense up

UFO
UFO
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 months ago

They see this as the dominant horse so they are all in on it. This was discussed a couple days ago I think.
 
It would be wrong to be mad at them for it. Women are like children, and natural followers. White men must step up and provide alternatives. It’s essentially just a shit test that white men are failing badly.

Sandmich
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 months ago

Yeah. I have one Puerto Rican friend who posts non-stop about how lawless rioters need to be brought under the boot and the other one posted a critical post with the video of the black kid beating the guy at the retirement home. From my white friends/relations it’s just one f’n BS post after another.
I guess maybe it’s because my Puerto Rican friends live around blacks so they’re not fans while my white relations don’t.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Sandmich
4 months ago

That’s almost certainly the case.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Sandmich
4 months ago

Hispanics here in California outright ethnically cleansed Blacks from many neighborhoods.
The FBI made aarrests and got a few token conviction . The people accepted that was the price they’d pay and viola, its now a Hispanic neighborhood.

 

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

Yes I read that one. I don’t like their methods (fire bombing, really???) but you can only like their results. Perhaps the ends do sometimes justify the means. And they’re probably more tolerant of los gringos because we need our lawns mowed 😀

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 months ago

Truth is the ends almost always justify the means. Power is after all truth. The Hispanics know if they want that turf they have to fight for it. Problem is using the wrong means screws up your ends. We Whites want something more complex, peace, good order, maybe a bit of civic nationalism and prosperity. We also are not in any position nor posses the willingness or will for such things so we don’t use them. That might change but if it does and Fed Gov can’t stop it, the Union will probably be over As for Cali tolerance, most… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Sandmich
4 months ago

Send them the video of the old WWII vet dying as his black “caregivers” are laughing at his pleas for help and complaints of not being able to breathe. If it still exists on the internet.

rich
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 months ago

And they’re wearing masks.

Mark Auld
Mark Auld
Reply to  Karl McHungus
4 months ago

That’s a logical interpretation of these events Karl, but the lefties did not aquire the logic gene. I hope all those blue cities cry for Federal bailouts only to be told by Trump that its a state issue,call your Governor.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
4 months ago

It is wickedly satisfying and wonderful to see cuomo and Deblasio bashing each other .

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Karl McHungus
4 months ago

Don’t get cocky. One big unknown is the aspect of election fraud in close States. Dem’s will pull out all the stops in 2020.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

He might be a controlled shabbos, but most Presidents are.
 
He might be a CivNat, but most Presidents are.
 
One thing he isn’t is someone who actively hates his own. That’s good enough for me.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

Donald Trump once “fired” a White guy on his show for using the term white trash in a self deprecating manner.
Not perfect but good enough.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

Agreed.

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Who do you think volunteers to be on the committees that count and verify votes? These white college women and their equivalents. The same people who are providing justification cover to the rioters and murderers will be counting your vote.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Karl McHungus
4 months ago

Maybe. Arizona is getting hit hard too. Still a homogeneous well armed and socially tight polity is the best place to live for most.
Looters planned to visit Snohomish but had a change of heart when they were informed there were 1000 armed militiamen there.
That is how order is maintained.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

I don’t follow even local news too closely but here in FL Orlando & Tampa have been hot spots. The Polk Co. sheriff actually suggested that residents shoot looters if they arrive, which in this state is probably legal (Stand your ground, Castle, etc.) I would vote for the man if I lived in that county ! 🙂

Carrie
Reply to  Karl McHungus
4 months ago

Karl:
Are you forgetting that the “D” and “R” division is a farce?
Most (let’s say 80%) people in positions of political power: federal, state, regional, or local, are part of the paradigm: the really good ones who are true leaders, have no desire to have anything to do with politics at all.
Just a friendly reminder that the D/R paradigm is a false one, for the most part.
 

Whitney
Member
4 months ago

Why does he want to be president? But I guess now he has to be because if he’s out of office the people in office will relentlessly come to destroy him and his progeny. There’s no easy way out for Trump

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Whitney
4 months ago

Apply for political asylum in Slovenia? Not easy, perhaps, but possible.

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Reply to  Whitney
4 months ago

I came on to ask that question. Why does Trump want a second term? Has he even asked himself that question? Does he know why, or is it only because he’s found himself in the biggest game around and he hates to lose a game? There are games to be avoided because a man doesn’t want to win. You don’t have to be Cincinnatus to know this.

Compsci
Compsci

I’d say a good deal of narcissism. A re-election discredits the claim that Trump is a freak of political nature—an aberration, a one-off. But then again look at the entire field of Presidential wannabes, Dem and Rep for any number of elections. All I see is pure ego driven. I can’t believe any of them has anything besides themselves in mind, albeit they can and will cause mischief if elected.
 
Hard to claim—and I like Trump—that he has much of an agenda that he absolutely, positively must finish for the people. He doesn’t seem that ideologically driven.

Carrie

I’m going with Ann Barnhardt’s theory: that Trump’s desire to be Prez is about ego and “brand Trump.” It’s soemthing he can put on his resume.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member

There are 2 civil wars. One is the anti-white war and the other is the progressive-conservative jewish civil war. Trump is indebted to the conservatives. The future fortunes of his children and grandchildren are tied to the conservative jews getting the upper hand. It is always the positioning of his family’s in the Jewish civil war that matter most and come first in all of his decision . Nearly all of his grandchildren are Jewish. All of his great grandchildren will be Jewish. It is where all of his political and personal short and long term interests lie.

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G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
4 months ago

The older white voter has no idea how young people and not just the young black think. I work with a young black guy, we get along fine and we talk about current events. His view of how police should handle looting is to look at what the value of the items are. He said “ it’s not worth a cops time to stop the taking of small items” and then he says “ only one cop should be needed for an arrest” then he says “More than one cop and it makes abuse more likely” Our major cities are… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
4 months ago

For sure not in any negro infested hellhole. But even in relative Whitetopias there is danger, as they’ve infiltrated everywhere like the roaches they are. And with their propensity for violence and criminality… Check out the latest sbpdl story on Unz.

Member
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
4 months ago

He said “ it’s not worth a cops time to stop the taking of small items” and then he says “ only one cop should be needed for an arrest” then he says “More than one cop and it makes abuse more likely”   Yeah, leftists are down with that decriminalization of petty crime. That’s working out great. And the “only one cop should be needed for an arrest just means “If you’re going to pull a big job, bring a few homies so the cop is outnumbered.”   Me, I favor allowing citizens the use of deadly force for… Read more »

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Alzaebo
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

When even high schools had gun classes, all we needed was Andy and Barney in Mayberry.

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

Inner cities while not as dangerous or well armed as these days were far from safe. Also there was a loot of sub rosa crime , child molestation , spousal abuse, child abuse and neglect police brutality and such that was ignored. It was safer than now true but some Boomer friends of mine have told be hair raising stories of small towns that made me think they were on a hellmouth. Also by the mid 60’s public trust and safety had started to fade and by the 90’s the US crime rate was nuts. Fixing it through mass incarceration… Read more »

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

“a loot of” = great pun/typo (or be ye Scottish?)   “hellmouth” = I had to look it up, never heard the term before and I is smart.   I share the standard narrative that our country has slowly gone to shit since the 1960s. The (violent) crime rate is curious. Yes, it peaked in 1990s. But then it declined greatly. “Freakonomics” guy said the peak/decline was largely due to the prevalence of legal abortion beginning in 1970s. Plausible, but I did some lookups and this would not explain the huge drop in violent crime since its peak in early… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 months ago

Part Scot but it was a typo. 😉 As far as crime in the 40’s, from 1941 to 1945 a most angry young men and essentially all criminally inclined ones were at war. Nothing from that part of the era can be considered useful as policy now . Heck we had a partial repeat from 1950-1952 as well. I hate bleating “current year” like a Lefty but it fits Simply, our policy choices have to be adapted to 2020 and clinging to the mythical or even actual past is worthless whether its Civ Nat 1942 or Old Union 1792 ,… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
4 months ago

your cowworker is not your problem , he is workng , and not rioting . your problem lives in your neighborhood . they are the completely brainwashed antifa kids who have been steeped in the guilt stuff for 13 yrs of ed and 4 to years of college. look at the videos of them in portland. your coworker may not like you, but antifa really really want to hurt you .
 

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
4 months ago

Shows a great nativity for a Black guy. Well, I guess a few of them (talented tenth) grew up in White neighborhoods. I’ve had the same discussion with White, university associates. Socially dumber than hell, but what do you expect. They don’t live with them, they interact with them in a controlled environment—the university. They mostly never grew up in the diverse, utopian neighborhoods they dream about.   Crowds, as in civil unrest crowds—Black or White—are inherently dangerous. Cops learn this fast, or they become statistics. The reports are filtering in as we speak. Store owners and unlucky schmucks in… Read more »

tashtego
Member
4 months ago

Is there a model for what the US will devolve into more specific than than expected progression of a democracy into a tyranny? Rowanda meets Brazil with 300+ million rifles in the citizens hands? If we allow them to disarm us, I’d say South Africa meets Cambodia.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  tashtego
4 months ago

The good scenario is that the United States becomes a North American Brazil-chaotic but functional. The bad scenario is it becomes a North American South Africa, with whites a despised and persecuted, yet indispensable, minority.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 months ago

In both scenarios, the society borders on collapse. The US is a highly technical society. It’s what makes life enjoyable. Brazil has to import all that stuff and as their Olympic fiasco showed, really can’t maintain such at their level of populous ability—Smart Fraction anyone?   SA has already crossed that threshold with the National electric grid failing and utilities in some large major cities, like Capetown, have no tap water in homes anymore.   I have seen video of the women in Capetown running down to the city center to fill clay pots with water, then walking back to… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

The US will not go the SA route as the other groups also have low fertility. The highest fertility outside religious splinter groups is the Pacific Islanders who are probably just at or below replacement. Blacks and Latinos are on par with Whites and Asians lower. No one is having babies. What will happen is we will get poorer by the month due to elite looting and a moribund economy. Over time things like running water and electricity will get harder to keep going so we’ll look economically like mediocre bits of Latin America but with an aging urban population… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  tashtego
4 months ago

The US will not be disarmed. Compliance with registration is nil and of late everyone has armed up. Record sales even in a depression.
Most buyers are new buyers too.
No analogy exactly fits us but the civil war in Yemen with heavily armed tribes and a lot of land comes to mind.
If Fed Gov fails, many will die but new nations will from the ashes and they will be homogeneous

Henry Lee
Member
4 months ago

The Georgia governor just extended the shutdown until mid-July. There can’t be a third quarter recovery if we’re still shut down in the third quarter. Schools in Georgia appear to be planning to still be in virus mode in the Fall. We’re doomed (apologies to Derb).

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Henry Lee
4 months ago

I thought Georgia fully reopened weeks ago?

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Drake
4 months ago

Georgia is open and will remain so.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 months ago

I support the right of people to freely assemble and conduct their Affairs as they like. Unfortunately the virus takes no account of man’s laws and a huge Rebound in cases is almost inevitable.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 months ago

So some old people die, a few people get a very nasty illness but survive and other people get the flu?
 
Whatever.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Henry Lee
4 months ago

No. You are confused. He was referring to the utility service shutdowns for delinquent bills. Most businesses in GA are fully open.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 months ago

Ah. The media up to their old tricks, playing this soundbite out of context, but not that.

Sowing confusion, as usual.

Why? Because then we need more of their services.

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Kentucky Headhunter
Kentucky Headhunter
4 months ago

“The truth is, black voters, a distinct subset of black people, are a very conservative voting bloc.”
 
“Blacks as a whole may have outlandishly high crime rates, but black voters incline toward law and order.”
???
Don’t blacks vote liberal 90+% of the time?
 

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
4 months ago

They may poll conservative but they vote for Democrats about 90% of the time. Republicans trying to win the black vote are chasing a unicorn. The best tactic is to make the election uninteresting to blacks (Biden might do this, which is why he is under pressure to pick a black female running mate.) The other tactic is rigorous enforcement of the voting registration laws with an eye to reducing the number of black voters.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 months ago

That’s why I like this, too, the Zman has their number.

Boomer blacks are like us, raised with the same Big 3 networks, the same stories, the same news.

Some, a few, are still radical wannabies- nappies instead of hippies- but most are slapping their foreheads in disbelief.

They don’t know what or how in he!! happened to their kids.

Blacks are as CivNat as whites.

Both were raised in the Civil Rights era.

John Carter
John Carter
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

Agreed, except for the last part – blacks are nowhere near as civnat as whites.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
4 months ago

Identity > Rationality

John Smith
John Smith
Member
4 months ago

Blacks as a whole may have outlandishly high crime rates, but black voters incline toward law and order.”
————————-
No, they don’t. Democrats are not law and order people.

De Beers Diamonds
De Beers Diamonds
Reply to  John Smith
4 months ago

Blacks want civil rights laws strictly enforced. If hate speech laws existed, as they do in the other Anglo countries, blacks would demand harsh punishments.

Felix Krull
Member
4 months ago

<I>Trump the Mule, the guy who breaks things and disrupts the natural order has changed the normal re-election pattern as well. </i>
 
Not a helpful analogy. Trump doesn’t have supernatural powers, he won because of the internet.

De Beers Diamonds
De Beers Diamonds
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Trump ran away after San Jose rioted against his supporters. We should have noticed this when it happened four years ago.
 
If his supporters get attacked, he thinks we are weak and abandons us. He won’t leave Twitter for Gab/Parler for the same reason.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  De Beers Diamonds
4 months ago

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tremain
tremain
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Indeed you see it. Trump is not in opposition to the Mainstream. He is part of it. It is not accident he was heavily involved in pro-wrestling and lots of black civil rights stuff. Wake up its a show. All those DS appointees, tweeting about the injustice of a coup, or lockdowns, or riotnginstead of recognizing he is the freaking president and actually has some powers. Trump is the star spangled caped blond hero in wrestling that whips up the crowd as he gets hit by chairs from out of the ring and the referee punishes him and not the… Read more »

Alzaebo
Reply to  tremain
4 months ago

Makes me want to hit him with that chair.
 
The CivNats point out these things happening over and over, but they can’t say WHY

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

People can’t change long held identities and beliefs very fast if at all and frankly Civ Nats are rightly terrified of the implications of our views.
 

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
4 months ago

The fact that Z needs to explain the boomer mindset to younger people is a good sign.

Reading the King article, it’s unbelievable how they twist his words: “we can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies”. Shocking racism 😛

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

Yeah, and we seem quite often to be lamenting that other pol’s—like Trump—are not spouting off daily with more of the same. If you want to effect change, you have to remain in the game. It’s a fine line.`

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Honestly I’m encouraged that he lasted this long in Iowa. Within a few years such sentiments won’t be shame-able.

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De Beers Diamonds
De Beers Diamonds
4 months ago

The riots have been a world breaker. For the first time, I really get that this isn’t our country anymore, and all these white women approve. We are going to be internal exiles, or maybe end up exiled in Siberia.
 
Time to start learning Russian.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  De Beers Diamonds
4 months ago

I think that between the riots and the virus, something has changed in a lot of us. I was mentally disengaged from the country before, but now, I’m starting feel it toward people, even friends and family. It’s hard.
 
The amount of whites publicly endorsing the racial injustice, i.e. whites are terrible, ideology is shocking. Whites (especially “conservatives”) who were kind of on the fence about blacks seem to be quickly moving toward embracing them as their saviors. Bad things are coming.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Yep. But I’d also say that there are Whites falling over to the other side—our side—as well. Example, our local radio conservative morning talk show host here, today, is talking on air saying things about the hundreds of “Whites” kneeling and repeating pledges of obeisance to “Blacks” at one of these protests. Played the clip and all. It was disgusting and scary. I thought I heard everything before that clip.   Look, this is FCC controlled talk radio. Hosts don’t speak in racial terms like White vs Black. They are always careful to include their typical NABALT disclaimer. But not… Read more »

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

How many are kneeling because they are afraid for their lives? Serious question.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Hun
4 months ago

The description was that this was organized. All Whites wore black shirts with some logo on them. They were there with similarly uniformed Blacks. Speaker at the podium/stage was a Black organizer/activist of sorts.   Like some church service or so, there was a litany of charges against Whites or society in general read out, and then the whites were on their knees and held their hands over their heads (don’t shoot stuff) and repeated what the speaker told them to say. They chanted back to the speaker and in front of hundreds of Blacks things like, “…we promise to… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Us Whites just cause so many disadvantages to Blacks with our Priviege, we should let the Blacks rule themselves so they can rise to their peak of human self-actualization, unfettered by Whites 😀

WaitingForTheStorm
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Don’t mistake the kowtowing urbanites for what would happen ex-urban. I know a shitload of white folks and not a single one of them would take a knee for these shitheads. And you can bet that not a single one of them thinks that a black would be our savior. It is more likely that the insurrectionists are getting seriously close to exhausting our patience.
 

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Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  WaitingForTheStorm
4 months ago

Yesterday I saw 6 or 8 people lined up in front of a suburban gun store waiting to get in. Today there were at least a dozen. This is not an affluent suburb, it’s lower middle class–people with little enough so they can’t stand losing any of it.

UFO
UFO
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

You are right. However, there are whites moving closer to our side as well. Certainly in the minority. But no double those who were “racist” before are doubly so now.   Any white that virtue signals for the blacks is worse than a sub-human – at least blacks and other races have the basic human instincts to support their own.   Also – alot of whites are doing this because the riots haven’t actually hit any white areas yet. They think that by being “nice” they will be spared by the blacks/Antifa. If this violence does head for the ‘burbs… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  UFO
4 months ago

This is true. We don’t need all whites. Indeed, we don’t want all whites. We just need a community of our own. A community that’s proud of their people.
 
We’ve lost that. The beauty of such a world makes money seem trivial. (Don’t get me wrong. I love money, but it can only buy things, not a community.)

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

This – the first paragraph. The events of the past quarter have taken me from tolerance of loved ones and friends on the other side of the divide to incredulity and now, I don’t want to communicate with them. I’m not quite to hostility but I’m sure I would be if I had to be around them. This includes my older brother, whom I have idolized all my life. Smart as a whip. He disinvited us all from a family reunion we’ve had at the family home on a lake on the Fourth of July for forty years ‘out of… Read more »

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Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  The Right Doctor
4 months ago

That is truly very sad

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  The Right Doctor
4 months ago

I’m sorry to hear that. As I mentioned somewhere, I think that I’ve lost a friend of nearly 30 years – over a mask – so I somewhat understand.   I fear that I may lose much more. My wife is a Nice White Lady. NWLs and members of the Dissident Right aren’t exactly a match made in heaven. (In truth, she’s not much different politically than when we met. I’m the one who has changed. Not her fault. She married a cuck and got a lower-IQ Z Man.) We’ll see.   Sometimes, I wish that I could stop, ignore… Read more »

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  De Beers Diamonds
4 months ago

I tried for fourteen months. It’s a hard language.

Member
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 months ago

Try learning just … 14 words.
 
Get back to me when you can confirm whether Google Translate got this right:
 
Мы должны обеспечить существование нашего народа и будущее для белых детей.

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Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

My daughter, who is fairly fluent in Russian, said that is a good translation of the 14 words.
But you need a little bit more to live a country.
 

Member
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 months ago

I know, just riffing off the “14 months” — the number stuck out at me. 🙂

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

The people they are at war with would say :
Ми пмусимо захисчетe існування нашого народу та майбутнє для наших дітей.
They’ve fighting to do just that for over a 1000 years .
Ще Не вмерла Україна !
Слава Україна !
Героям Слава !
Je peux écrire en français si vous voulez.
On ne peux pas aller on fugue .
Hail Victory !
 
 

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Member
Reply to  Lurker
4 months ago

That’s what every people wants (Well, except the French — I kid! I kid!).
 
 

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Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

No offence taken . I’m not easily offended .    The Québécois are a remarkable indigenous North American tribe . The men explored half the continent and though outnumbered put up a heroic fight against “ les anglais perfide “ . The White man is always outnumbered !    More impressive are the women . In the mid-17th century King Louis sent over 800 young women called the King’s Daughters , who commenced to having children – double drill with no canteen . These women and their daughters had between 10 and 20 children each for 300 years . They… Read more »

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levi
levi
Reply to  Lurker
4 months ago

The French outnumbered the British in Quebec and Europe.
 
Quality beat quantity.

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

I can’t speak to the translation; but judging from the Cyrillic lexicon, you’ve only got eleven “words.” Stick with English, the language Jesus spoke, or German, because die vierzehn Woerter has that certain uebermensch quality that really pisses off the Karens and Soy Boys.

Libertymike
Member
Reply to  De Beers Diamonds
4 months ago

Da, eto pravda.

Libertymike
Member
Reply to  Libertymike
4 months ago

St. Petersburg is really nice this time of the year.
 
It sure beats Atlanta, Baltimore, Boston, Charlotte, Chicago, Detroit, Flint, Gary, LA, Newark, NY, Philadelphia, Portland, San Fran, Seattle, and Washington.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Libertymike
4 months ago

I lived in Moscow for 16 months between 2016 and 2018. If I could have mastered the language I might have tried to live in Russia indefinitely. But learning a difficult language in your seventh decade is difficult.

Libertymike
Member
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 months ago

What brought you to Moscow?
 
Did you enjoy your sojourn?
 
Did you ever get up to St. Petersburg?

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Libertymike
4 months ago

My daughter’s dance education brought me to Moscow. I only changed trains in St. Petersburg. Many years ago I visited Volgograd. As I’ve said, if could have mastered the language I might have stayed in Russia. Yes, I very much enjoyed Moscow–I occasionally get nostalgic for it, something I never do about my time in London or Paris. Now I’m an expat living in France.

Libertymike
Member
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 months ago

Good for you for accompanying your daughter with her dance education. Was it the Bolshoi Ballet?

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Libertymike
4 months ago

The Moscow State Academy pf Choreography, popularly known as the Bolshoi Ballet Academy. Founded by Russian Empress Catherine the Great around 1763.

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  De Beers Diamonds
4 months ago

Russia is an empire . Russian nationalists are proscribed . The average Russian is a virtue signaling neo-con civic nationalist , who in addition to embracing 100 + ethnic minorities , embraces anyone who learns their language , converts to their religion and embraces their values . Putin is not going to save you and why would anyone accept people who flee from their own country ? 

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Lurker
4 months ago

I don’t know. Christians for example are suckers for the born-again/conversion types. It reconfirms/affirms To them the correctness of their belief system. Russia may have those folk as well. Certainly we have them here in spades—we call them CivNats—and it is a main source of our current problems. Hell, you’ll even spot me relapsing at times in this forum. 😉

Member
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Christians for example are suckers for the born-again/conversion types.
 
That’s quite literally the only kind of Christian there is.

miforest
Member
Reply to  De Beers Diamonds
4 months ago

exile would be good compared to some of the other end game possibilities.

De Beers Diamonds
De Beers Diamonds
Reply to  miforest
4 months ago

I see little chance of a rebellion succeeding. Especially with the improving drone technology. Outside of the Dissident Right, most whites have spent the past week and a half engaged in utter submission to BLM.
 
It won’t be liked by many here for understandable reasons, but what we are enduring is a pogrom, a Kristallnacht.
 
If we aren’t going into exile, it will be prison or a futile death by rebellion.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  De Beers Diamonds
4 months ago

The riots are working! Just not for us.

Carrie
Reply to  De Beers Diamonds
4 months ago

NO No Nooooo!! No Russian!
I’m sure you were joking, but really, from a linguistic perspective, just the alphabet is not something I will be learning.
See also Ann Barnhardt’s blog post about not getting militarily / tactically flanked by Russia / China on the North American landmass.
Interesting content:
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/05/31/the-second-american-civil-war-not-quite-like-the-first-no-mason-dixon-line-and-the-peoples-liberation-army-eyeballing-the-pacific-coast/
 
And also this:DUDE! I’m on your side!
[short 1-min video of a “bro” throwing a brick through a “bruh’s” apartment window]
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/06/02/there-is-no-relationship-no-charity-in-hell-extreme-language-alert/
[There is no charity in Hell.]

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  De Beers Diamonds
4 months ago

It’s still 85% white-ish. Long time since our country was. Downsides of moving are many, not the least would be the cost of shipping all your household goods 🙂

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Trump winning or losing just doesn’t seem that important anymore. The reaction of a huge portion of whites first to the virus and now to blacks running amok is stunning and heartbreaking.   The explosion of white self flagellation is sickening. We even see it with white policemen, who walk arm-in-arm with those who openly declare their hatred of whites.   As a whole, we are people not worthy of self-rule. Those whites – who literally kneel before a foreign people – deserve what’s coming.   And it is coming. Trump victory or defeat, it’s coming. Personally, I welcome it.… Read more »

Felix Krull
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Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Trump winning or losing just doesn’t seem that important anymore.
 
Exactly. We’ve come a long way since 2016, when the champion of the white race was a homeaux, Catholic, kayak dramaqueen with a yen for blak kok. The old razzle-dazzle doesn’t work so well as it used to.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Yes, maybe the politics are moving faster than we realize. As much as we talk about how standard white conservatives are processing the rioting and looting, white liberals have to process that too. Most don’t, but it’s funny when they try. I was dumbfounded by a conversation I had last night with some white libs (I live in Pelosi-land). They couldn’t get past the corporate HR department platitudes about “working towards a more inclusive country” with its “long history of discrimination.” When you ask them to put meat on the bones, racial quotas? etc. They only grab onto the platitudes… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

Yes, maybe the politics are moving faster than we realize. 
 
The internet makes you politically speed blind. In ten years, we’ll have white sharia, with e-thots on their knees in the field, pulling up weeds one stem at a time, their vaginas inaccessible to all but the overseer.
 
you would never catch these people getting off at the wrong freeway exit.
 
Now I need to read Bonfires of the Vanities. Great Corona-reading. Never mind Alex Jones, but Tom Wolfe was right.
 

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Walt Jeffers
Walt Jeffers
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Tom Wolfe was a prophet or actually he had seen it all happen already. The Al Sharpton huckster, the search for the Great White Defendant, it was all happening in the NYC way before the rest of the country. Bonfire was great but ignore that worthless POS movie of the same name.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Walt Jeffers
4 months ago

When was Tom Wolfe’s last book published? About 10 years ago, I believe. It was “Back to Blood.” There’s no way Wolfe could get a book with his typical content published in our Orwellian times today, by a mainstream publisher.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Walt Jeffers
4 months ago

<i>Bonfire was great but ignore that worthless POS movie of the same name.</i>
 
I don’t think it was that bad. You have two hours, you have to pick and choose; I think they chose well if – of course – politically prudently.
 

Also, https://nymag.com/news/features/46170/Radical Chic is a classic, if rather artsy in style. 
Felix Krull
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Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

That edit field sucks. I can’t use HTML, and the tags don’t work.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Speaking of e-thots…
Finally, an e-thot we can all simp for!
 
https://mobile.twitter.com/somefellow6/status/1237875949246369793

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

Meat on the bones.
 
Exactly. These people are hopeless. If I talk to them at all, I’ve moved to pushing them to make actual sacrifices for their beliefs.
 
Quotas. Moving blacks to white neighborhoods. Reparations. Busing. Wealth tax. Etc. Liberal whites joined with POC to defeat us. Ok. I’m willing to join with POC to defeat liberal and cuck whites. Maybe it’ll wake a few up.

Alzaebo
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

I think that’s why, instead of the crossed wrists signifying shackles in the movie version of 1984, they chose muzzles. The face burka.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Trump is at best a delaying tactic to give us time, but he also keeps many whites (Good and Bad whites) from dealing with the demographic reality. Trump is a distraction.
 
I want Stacey Abrams and other POC to force Goodwhites to grovel and Badwhites to kneel. I want Goodwhites to admit to being the House N$ggers that they are. I want GOP Badwhites to see that they are field slaves that they are. If that doesn’t wake enough of them up, such a cowardly people deserve to die.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

This is why I kind of like AOC and Omar. Anyone can be a 100% Marxist voter in Congress, hiding in the woodwork. I like how they expose the hidden context of what’s going on as they attempt to grab attention and self-glorify. I like how it makes big Democrat financiers, most of them (((financiers))) angry with rage. I like AOC just where she is.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

AOC and Omar are great. I want more of them. I want the CivNat boomers and the Karens to get told how terrible they are. I want them to know what’s going to be taken from them and what’s going to brought to their neighborhood.
 
And, yes, I know that this means that me and my family get hit. So be it. I’m tired of arguing with people who have no skin in the game.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

You seem a little black-pilled today, Citizen but I can’t honestly say I disagree. I’m afraid that there’s going to be a mass culling of white people in the United States and Western Europe. The whites who survive will have racial attitudes along the lines of the WWII Waffen SS or Romanian Iron Guard.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 months ago

Not exactly black pilled. I’m just catching it on all sides in my real world both over the virus and the riots. Probably lost an old friend because I wouldn’t wear a mask OUTSIDE.   Caught all kinds of grief over the riots because when I asked, I said, “They’re boring. It’s same play that I’ve seen over and over since I was a kid.” Basically, I refused to admit my white guilt.   I’m just sick and tired of arguing with or having to deal with Karens, cuck white guys and the occasional super liberal white lady. I can’t… Read more »

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Apology for the cliche, but: EPIC

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
4 months ago

Thanks.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

citien , you are channeling my thoughts .++

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  miforest
4 months ago

I think a lot of us feel this way at some point or another.

Carrie
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

AMEN, Citizen.
Hang in there. We hear you.
I know it doesn’t help, but there are others on our forum like you, who are also getting worn down.
You’re not alone.
 

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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Carrie
4 months ago

Thanks. That rant was more personal that I meant.
 
I have a family. Every single thing in our society tells my kids that I’m wrong. It just feels like I’m fighting the tide sometimes.
 
We need a community of our own. We need back-up. I’m worn down today, but on that, I have more belief than ever.

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Flu times two? Not yet. Covid deaths to date (Johns Hopkins) 382K. Normal flu year 395K. And here’s something interesting from the CDC website two minutes ago: “Note: The week of April 4 was the last week in-season influenza burden estimates will be provided for the 2019-2020 season.”
That must be the date they got the memo: all flu deaths are now Covid.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  The Right Doctor
4 months ago

Yep. I wish that facts mattered. Thanks.

3g4m
3g4m
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Citizen, fwiw you are one of the few reasons I’m still reading here. Too many newbies here making Z blog like Sailer a few years ago. I’ve been a blackpiller for a long time, and tired of the hypocrisy long ago as well. But I’ve never cared about the approval of people I despise. One of my husband’s oldest friends sent us a propaganda video about Trump’s wall. I responded that White women of childbearing age were 2% of the world population and it is just about game over. Next day that friend, who has refused to arm himself for… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  3g4m
4 months ago

Yeah, I’m a Sailer refugee as well. Don’t get me wrong. Steve is great. He gave up a career to tell the truth. I’ll send him a meager $10 a month until he dies.
 
But, I agree with you, things are getting very personal. Something about this virus BS and the riots has brought beliefs to the forefront. Things will calm down in a bit, but people won’t forget how other reacted. Not me, not others who thought I was jerk. The time to choose sides is getting closer.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Great rant.
I would only add that we can’t forget Fentanyl Floyd was a junkie criminal degenerate that failed at life.
Some martyr.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Your thoughts are very justified , no arguing that. But I hope trump wins , because it may slow down the steepening descent. I have kids , and every day of normalcy is a blessng to be thankful for. as for “What happens when the FBI is 30% pozzed white?   What happens when the tech firms are staffed by Indians?”   where have you been!?!?!? those thing both happened a decade ago. its 100% now   Family and Family are the most important things, and those are not as dammaged under trump as they wuld be under joe. I… Read more »

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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  miforest
4 months ago

Unfortunately, I’m not a practicing Christian nor are my family members. I’ve got no back up and I face the onslaught of the entire propaganda machine hitting my wife and kids every day. And I worry that I’m losing.
 
If reality is the only thing that will wake people up from the brainwashing that they get, then I say bring it on.

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Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Stacey Abrams or some substitute will help fulfill Menchen’s prophecy of giving the public what it wants good and hard. Trump is an appeaser who occassionally flips the finger. Either way, neither path leads to the future. I don’t know how this play ends but certainly no one knows less than the players.

R T
R T
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

My friend, there is always time. I benefited greatly from a traditional Catholic upbringing. Your children would as well. It is the only way to stem the tide of propaganda. Reach out to me if you would like to talk.
http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/who-we-teach/rite-of-christian-initiation-of-adults/index.cfm
Be well.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  R T
4 months ago

Thanks. Christianity was never a part of my life. My parents just never talked about it – good or bad. I believe that they made a mistake.   But what I do know is that we’re facing an opposition that is deeply religious. Without that kind of faith on our own side, it’ll be hard to win.   Btw, the pope just said that racism and exclusion were terrible things that the church condemns. Had to laugh about the exclusion part.   Maybe, it’s time for a European Christian Church. I’d definitely look into that.   But, again, thank you… Read more »

Carrie
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

@Citizen: As a practicing Catholic, I can tell you: The Church is in schism as I type this. Jorge Bergoglio (a.k.a. Francis) is not the legitimate pope. He’s a scumbag h o m o (much evidence for this) living in a Roman Bath house, quite literally. Benedict XVI is still technically the real pope, based on some Canon Law that there’s no point in getting into. But my point to you is: don’t base what you hear from Jorge as the reason not to consider Catholicism. It has a lot of things going for it, even though it’s always had… Read more »

Epaminondas
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Reply to  Carrie
4 months ago

I’ll be joining the One True Faith soon. I plan on converting in Rome.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Maybe, it’s time for a European Christian Church. I’d definitely look into that.   Call me when the head preacherman starts quoting Urban II rather than MLK II, and the choir sing Battle Hymn of the Republic rather than Imagine.   Apart from a small fringe, all I see Christians do is kissing the feet of the sinners, and the greater the sinner, the greater their Jesus-gasm, because the more forgiving you are, the better your standing with Jesus.   Sorry, but Christianity is useless in this situation. It’s all about turning the other cheek, forgiving your debtors and meekly… Read more »

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Unsolicited advice, hope you don’t mind.

Whenever I feel the walls closing in, I say, “Lord, I know because you love me you have a plan for me, your will be done.”

It takes the weight off my shoulders and lets me act authentically. Don’t know much about theology, but it works for me.

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Chad Hayden
Chad Hayden
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

My heart goes out to you brother…hang in there…

Hun
Hun
Reply to  miforest
4 months ago

I have kids , and every day of normalcy is a blessng to be thankful for.
 
What normalcy? That ship has sailed a very long time ago.

Carrie
Reply to  miforest
4 months ago

@miforest
Do you read the good and kind Ann Barnhardt?
If not, I highly recommend!

3g4m
3g4m
Reply to  miforest
4 months ago

I, too, have kids – and life has not been ‘normal’ since their birth. They have never known a majority White country. We insulated them as best we could, sent them to Christian schools, etc., but they both know where they stand on the totem pole and that there’s no future for either of them. F-k ‘normalcy.’ The 24/7 pozz is ‘normal.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Even South Africa still has plenty of white liberals who think blacks can do no wrong and that whites are still oppressing them.
It may be satisfying to watch the virtue-signalers get what they deserve, but it’s not going to help. Many of them will not change their minds.
 

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Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Hun
4 months ago

<i>Even South Africa still has plenty of white liberals who think blacks can do no wrong and that whites are still oppressing them.</i>
 
Indeed, they have as many shitlibs as America.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

The acquiescence to the state-choreographed virus panic, particularly by otherwise aware people such as Greg Johnson and Steve Sailer, indeed was heartbreaking. It also was dangerous because you can draw a straight line from there to the state-sponsored riots, which feature televised black on white violence, usually against defenseless people. I will shoot to kill and know others who will. But how many others are there?   I have noticed with keen interest the military politicians virtue signaling and, more alarming, expressing solidarity with the thugs today. All the conservatives who thought their beloved military would even protect them should… Read more »

Alzaebo
4 months ago

I was wrong again. I thought it was a minor score tween 2 punks. I guess everbody already knows the autralopithecine was a violent drug gangsta, so wacked on fentanyl and meth he started kicking the cops in the car. He’d been passing bad twenties all week, so he assaulted the cashier at the Korean who called it in. The cop is a hardass hard enough to deal with this district, most of the complaints are probably fake. Anybody can call one in and it must be logged. Rodney King was so tweaked on pcp, when a black female cop… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

Do you have any links for all of that?

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

I read the same stuff, don’t have the links off-hand. Yes, St. George, the gentle giant, of course, has a long record.

Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

I knew about the record. I didn’t know that he had been passing bad bills all week or that he had assaulted the cashier.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

He may have only menaced the Korean store, I’ve seen both the downplayed and the ‘assault’ comment.

 

Verbal assault? That’s actionable, his drug-fueled threats would be a reason to call the cops. They knew this bozo.

 

The interesting thing is that one of the first places to burn was a building on that block.

It had $900,000 in counterfeit twenties stashed- the ones he was passing- and offsite Chinese owners.

This whole sh*tshow may have started as cover for a larger mob operation.

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Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

This whole sh*tshow may have started as cover for a larger mob operation.
 
Smells like a big insurance scam to me: Corona-chan stole their customers, so torching the shop makes a lot of sense.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

It would be Hate Twitter, straight up confirmation bias, and you’re a good joe.

Me, I am degenerate scum. I will never lie, I will get points wrong, but I no longer give a flying fig about being fair.

If the cop’s name was Treyvon, they would stand up for him no matter what.

Well now, my word is Vendetta.

“A hundred, a thousand of yours, for every one of ours… because we can, you subhuman monsters”

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

Even Wikipedia, no objective source there, says that Floyd was a (I assume) convicted armed robber, sentenced to five years. Was high on meth and fentanyl at time of arrest. From one FB video I conclude that Floyd may not have been violent, but refused to enter the patrol car. I doubt being claustrophobic is an excuse. Whatever the police may have done wrong, I find it hard to believe that a man who can loudly say “I can’t breathe” sixteen times was being asphyxiated. The police may have acted wrongly, but murder? Manslaughter? That’s for a jury to decide,… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

Counterfeiting is an odd crime for a dindu. Unless this was just a case of him using a photocopier. Sophisticated counterfeit is now pretty much all done by organized crime or intelligence agencies. Of course, there’s also this one ethnic group, I think they call themselves the Jumanji who tend to be associated with “money stuff” and also with foreign and domestic alphabet soup agencies… It’s almost like someone a little smarter and better connected than a tweaker with a long criminal record might have given him the fake bills.

Carrie
Reply to  pozymandias
4 months ago

I’ve seen things that say that St. [dindu] knew yt cop when they worked together doing security at a club.
I’m not even sure the dude has “passed on.” Show me the body.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Carrie
4 months ago

Years ago, I visited the Federal Reserve (Kansas City). I got a tour of the check processing room (a fossill even 15 years ago). But what was cool is they have a little money museum, including sample counterfeit currency. Of course you can’t handle it, but even on close examination, all but the worst examples would have fooled me.
Having established my credentials 😀 I speculate that at “retail” people like Floyd buy the fake stuff at a discount, maybe $10 real buys you $100 fake, whatever.
 

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Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  pozymandias
4 months ago

Word is the Mexican restaurant that both the perp and the cop worked at was a front for counterfeiting and money laundering, with sketchy ownership and a stupid visible business model. A long term deal that was a three-letter agency front for surveillance and the usual “fast and furious” sort of thing. The Wuflu lockdown threw off the business model by disrupting the “cash” flow, and Floyd went off script by spending the fake stuff willy-nilly. The killer cop was not even the arresting officer, but Floyd freaked when he showed up, because he was the enforcer for the scam.… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Dutch
4 months ago

I had originally thought that the stuff about Floyd and the cop knowing each other was rumor. It really seems like there’s a whole “Breaking Bad” subplot here that would be fascinating on its own.   If the Alphabet People really are involved I wonder if the media was told that the story was about “racism” and not, say, the fact that parts of the American government have been counterfeiting their own currency and dealing drugs. Maybe the plan was to do a scaled down Rodney King psychodrama to give the Alphabet People time to burn the evidence. Then it… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  pozymandias
4 months ago

Fentanyl Floyd was just low-level muscle and a mule for whatever counterfeiting ring he was involved with. I get the sense the cop was involved as well through their connections at the club they worked. You have to wonder if this whole episode wasn’t a hit to tie off a loose end.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

Rodney King was so tweaked on pcp, when a black female cop tased him twice, he laughed in her face.
 
Queen Ann lays it out:
 
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/03/ann-coulter-on-the-other-hand-theres-rodney-king/

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
4 months ago

“… Those older white voters really do care about race relations. …” — Zman   I would say that the old leftist do, and perhaps even a lot of old “normies” do. But in my long life I have lived around southerners (Boomers and others) and the N-word is used. Why? Africans are horrible people who have been coddled for generations on end. (we now use “dindu” as n-word?) It is way past time to realize that the word Nigg## needs to be used for both whites and blacks where it is appropriate. I have heard and read honest, hard… Read more »

WaitingForTheStorm
Member
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 months ago

I disagree with the Z-man’s characterization. His statement may be true in some cities, particularly the Dem enclaves. But, I am willing to bet that the sentiment is not to be found in the vast countryside outside of the cities and some affluent suburbs. I grew up in a community where joggers were sensibly relegated to their own neighborhoods, except for household help and other menial labor. They had one designated day at the public beach and were, literally, beaten if they visited the private beach.   Those I see now are not ready to bow down to any person,… Read more »

Major Hoople
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Reply to  WaitingForTheStorm
4 months ago

Try bringing it into second amendment sanctuary counties….

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 months ago

Well, it’s that kind of pussy-footing that takes the wind right out of your sail. If you’re going to call niggers niggers then use the word “nigger” and to hell with the censors. My God, it’s just a word. It’s not like you strung one up on a tree for talking to a white woman. Either be a race realist or don’t, but stop talking out of both sides of your mouth and get off the fucking fence.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Maus
4 months ago

Call a spade a spade, so to speak 🙂

Chad Hayden
Chad Hayden
Reply to  Maus
4 months ago

I don’t use the word nigger because I prefer no to. I use blacks or negro depending on whom I’m talking to. Call them niggers if you like, but it doesn’t help anything and makes you appear unable to control your anger.
It’s important to remember that our beef isn’t with blacks, it’s with their handlers. We could take out any number of blacks in self-defense when they riot in our streets and assault our businesses and it wouldn’t fundamentally change our destiny in this country. Keep the wide frame view Maus.

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  Maus
4 months ago

Did you really read what I wrote? I was saying that the word needs to be used. Are you complaining that I said I did not want to get Zman into trouble by using the word in this comment area?   Do you walk into other people’s house and start yelling all manner offensive words the first time you get there?   I am going to type real slow for the impaired. I believe that we should use the word “nigg@r” in real life. I also believe that when you go to a man’s house or his web-home you should… Read more »

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 months ago

How ironic. I just replied to Mr. Stoval’s hypocritical pussy-footing around the actual use of the N-word by using the actual N-word. And my comment was immediately held for approval. I hope Zman has the stones to approve it before its ephemeral nature renders it nugatory. And if Mr. Stoval’s reticence is also due to this feature, I apologize for assuming that he didn’t try first but not for castigating his mealy-mouthed explanation.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 months ago

Just follow Z-man’s lead. He has commented—first I might add—on most all topics of discussion. He has also expressed his sentiments wrt hating groups and people. He has little time for such. Use Z-man type language and descriptors and you won’t go wrong.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
4 months ago

The Steve King loss is yet another reminder of why I’m not a Republican. Of course Iowa stands for “idiots out wandering around.” I’m entirely aloof to this election season. It no longer matters. They’re arguing over a country, that like the Titanic, has taken on too much water, is slightly listing, and has no future. Sure, the engine room is still operative, for now, but the water is about to stall out the engines. We have no national tribe that holds us together. Only the mighty dollar, the reserve currency of the world does that. That’s not enough. When… Read more »

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Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

Our “tribe” is the dollar and the virus panic may well have killed it. The economists seem to be convinced that the economic fallout from the shutdowns is only starting. Breaking the US up into regional states might work well with places like Alaska that can be reasonably self sufficient. The problems will focus on places like California where the local Leftists have run up huge bills always with the assumption that, eventually, the rest of the nation would be forced to pay up. The real incentive to hold the Union together by violence will focus on that. No one… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  pozymandias
4 months ago

I live here in CA, which constantly touts its “economic miracle” with the sixth largest economy in the world. It does have a glass jaw. So much of the wealth is tech oriented, and is riding that same bubble that we had in 2000, 2007 etc. When the economic implosion happens, and the dust settles, it will end up very much like Italy. It you look at Italy today, it’s a step above Mexico, especially in the north, but not much. CA will look so much like Italy It’ll be scary. You’ll always have incredibly wealthy, beautiful enclaves, the way… Read more »

UFO
UFO
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

Yup, Italy was shockingly similar to Mexico at last visit.
 
Take away the EU (German) wealth and the Mafia probably becomes not much less influential than the Cartels.
 
However, Mexico does not have millions of Africans roaming around, selling drugs, bothering tourists, and raping women.
 
Mexico has the brighter future.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  UFO
4 months ago

Cartel problem has to be solved.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  UFO
4 months ago

Was your last visit to Italy in 1946?

Hun
Hun