Selling Normie

One of the truths about politics that many would prefer to ignore is that politics is not about facts and reason. The game is about persuasion. If you live under a monarch, then the game is to create popular support in order to persuade the king that some policy is good for his people. If the ruler is a despot, then he needs to be convinced his best interest lie in a particular policy. In theory, at least, democracy is about persuading fifty percent plus one in favor of some course of action.

In order to persuade someone, you need to understand his needs and motivations in order to frame your appeal to him in a way that he can understand. Good salesmen always start by understanding what their prospect needs and why he thinks he may need whatever it is he may buy. He is far more likely to buy the widget that makes the boss happy than the widget that works a tiny bit better than the rest. He needs the widget and is motivated to make his boss happy.

A similar approach must be done with the sorts of people dissidents seek to persuade in the political arena. The so-called normie has become the universal white guy everyone says they want to bring to this side of the great divide. As President Barak Obama once said, he is the typical white person. This is the guy who votes Republican and listens to Rush Limbaugh when he is driving around during the day. His dream is to be left to live his life as he sees fit with whom he sees fit.

Normie would naturally come this way, but he has been convinced of a number of things that operate like a leash keeping him in lefty’s yard. For example, normie is sure that markets matter a great deal. When he sees all of the corporate oligarchs promoting black violence, he mutters to himself, “Get woke, go broke.” He truly thinks the marketplace will punish these companies. He thinks the sportsball leagues will suffer for kneeling to their black players. The fans will punish them for it.

The mistake made by dissidents when discussing the magic market issue is in thinking they need to be anti-market. The thing is, normie needs to believe the market will magically solve these problems because he is not motivated to act on his anger and frustration over what he is seeing. The choice he sees is to abandon the convenience of buying from Amazon or forgoing the joy of watching sports. If he is going to walk away from consumerism, there has to be something in it for him.

There is something similar at work with race. Normie has been told his whole life that if he just tries hard enough, black people will stop thinking he is a racist. It’s not that explicit, but that is the point of race messaging from the ruling class. They want white people in a constant struggle session over race, where they examine everything they do with an eye on reaching the magic state of being not racist. Since no such place exists, the struggle can never end, hence the endless riots.

It is why explicitly racist language is a dead end for normie. He sees that and is confirmed in his desire to not be a racist. Those taboo-breakers with their salty language and snarky comments are mostly singing to the choir. There’s a place for it and a need for it, but when it comes time to pitch normie on race realism, such language and symbolism is a deal killer. You become the salesman who walks into a Christian business using four-letter language and wreaking of alcohol.

Normie also likes feeling a bit self-righteous and sanctimonious. This is true of all people to some degree. All of us want to be good people in the universal sense, but we also want the people around us to acknowledge it. As John Derbyshire explained back in the Neolithic, social thought is a foundation of man. When it comes to politics, the easiest way for normie to feel good is to triangulate. He rejects the far-left, but also rejects those bad people and haters to his right.

You see this in business. Often a buyer will justify his decision as being the value proposition, which means not the best, but not the cheapest. It is a form of self-flattery that the good salesman can exploit. He recognizes that the buyer needs to feel like he is a reasonable guy not taken by fads and thoughtful in his analysis. Normie takes a similar approach when it comes to thorny cultural issues in politics. He naturally seeks some middle ground that he can then pretend is the high ground.

This is, in part, why normie remains smitten with immigration. It has always been framed for him as a choice between open borders and xenophobia. Normie really needs to believe that those immigrants want to be like him. To reject them out of hand is to reject himself. Again, it is a form of self-flattery. Think about how so-called conservatives sell normie on immigration. They talk about immigrants starting businesses and being natural conservatives who love Jesus and family

On the other hand, normie makes noises about the need for immigration being legal and measured, because it makes him seem reasonable. He rejects the chaos of open borders, because he is an orderly sort of guy. He wants a tough border, but as long as there is a legal process, he is fine with immigration. The current immigration levels have become his value position. He’s not taking the cheap route of open borders, but he is not going for the expensive option of a moratorium.

Then there is the weird fatalism of normie. He looks around at the madness of the day and thinks, “They have gone too far. The snap-back is coming.” This is similar to his belief in the magic of the marketplace. Normie just assumes the excesses he sees around him will cause the silent majority, of which he is a member in good standing, to move like a school of fish in a different direction. Millions of private decisions motivated by left-wing excess will put things back in order.

This is why talk of whites becoming a minority is so effective on normie. It’s not so much that he fears being at the mercy of non-whites. He fears he will lose the validation of being in that silent majority and that the silent majority will no longer be that magical force that rights all wrongs. In other words, so much of the normie mindset that keeps him tethered to conventional politics, depends on him believing he is part of a perpetual majority of good white people like himself.

It’s why the scenes of whites washing the feet of blacks and kneeling before them is so powerful, when combined with demographic reality. When normie understand he will be a minority and it means washing the feet, he suddenly becomes a highly motivated buyer for a new political ideology. The good salesman is always prepared for the motivated buyer. He does not bore him with a long sales pitch. He just presses on those pain points until he gets the sale.

Every salesman will tell you that there are good times and bad times. The good salesman weathers the bad times and maximizes the good times. Right now, it has never been a better time to sell dissident ideas to the normie in the market for something better. Not all are motivated buyers, for sure. Some people never let go of the past. You can’t save everyone, but there are a lot of white people looking around right now thinking, “There has to be something better than this.”


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Mitch
Mitch
4 years ago

The amount of friends who I thought were sane but have gone totally woke over George Floyd is astonishing. Instagram is full of friends posting BLM posters, praising their kids for protesting, begging for patience as they listen better, etc. People who I thought were normies are actually too far gone. Are normies becoming extinct?

Days Of Broken Arrows
Days Of Broken Arrows
Reply to  Mitch
4 years ago

What do these people do for a living? Do they deal with the public? The reason I ask is that the new BLM rhetoric is “Silence is violence.” People are getting called out for simply not saying anything. So, these people might only be supporting BLM out of fear, to stay on the good side of the mobs, so they won’t lose their jobs, or customers, or whatever.   I personally don’t care about this now. But if I had to worry about kids and mortgage payments and still had my old newspaper job, maybe I’d also be paying lip… Read more »

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Days Of Broken Arrows
4 years ago

They are public declarations that 2+2=5 !
 
The Roman Senators offended by Caesar’s ostentatious fashion crime of wearing only purple, all had a go at stabbing him .
 
Maybe that’s the point – to elicit complicity and implicate oneself in the lie?
 
I too am not in a position where I’d have to willingly go against my conscience.  
 
 

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Lurker
4 years ago

Your actions are far more important than your words. I think even that thought is in the good book somewhere.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Days Of Broken Arrows
4 years ago

It is better to be a phony right up until some joggers bust your skull open for being white, or rape your daughter for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I like the salesman/market comparison our esteemed blog host uses. I am a former marketing guy myself, and I see things slightly different. The market has changed. Our enemies are now making fatal mistakes, one after another. Normie now has no choice… When shitlibs disband police departments to appease the blacks… And run dementia patients as presidential candidates… and Normie personally has to deal with the growingly… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Glenfilthie
4 years ago

Glenfilthie,   I see where you are going with the rejection of self-moderation but I don’t think the tide has washed in yet. It’s easy to become comfortable in the harsher language of subjects we know to be true (and even be pleasantly surprised when we discover a normie receptive to our ideas) but dont think for a second that normie won’t enthusiastically serve you up right now in a last gasp effort to fit in with the new social norms.   Yes, there is a hunger growing among Ours for truth and no small amount of disgust for the… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Days Of Broken Arrows
4 years ago

That’s a cope. Even if it were true, it just makes them cowards. They aren’t going to “call out” some rando on twitter or instagram.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Days Of Broken Arrows
4 years ago

dang dude you got more negatives than I did I gave you one plus but I think you still be my all-time low. 😮

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Days Of Broken Arrows
4 years ago

It has to be considered.
We’re in Indian territory now.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

Wagon Burner territory. Wagon burner…

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Days Of Broken Arrows
4 years ago

They practice what 99% of us have been practicing for decades: keeping our true thoughts to ourselves when needed. But now our enemies have changed the rules: a public protestation of piety to the new idols.   No brotherhood means we face our fate alone. A family, a home, a career are now at stake and there is no one who can stand with you to push back and do so effectively. We don’t need martyrs we need warriors.   Swallow that bitter pill for you will find it a great motivator. Doing so to simply get along and survive… Read more »

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Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Days Of Broken Arrows
4 years ago

“Better to be a phony than be jobless and homeless.”
 
Did you ever hear of self-employment?
 
 

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Mitch
4 years ago

Normies follow the pack. Safer that way. The problem is, the longer you follow, the more you internalize. Their brains are literally rewiring themselves. Wife shared a verse from 2 peter the other day to help me feel a bit better.   And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:… Read more »

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SixxSigma
SixxSigma
Reply to  BadThinker
4 years ago

Glad to see a verse from the KJV here. The new translations read by millions are pozzed and are a large part of the problems we face today.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  SixxSigma
4 years ago

To some degree. I like the poetry of King James. Every translation has its strengths and weaknesses, IMHO. There’s a lot of theology that is inferred by many of the translations (and don’t get me started on ‘commentary’ footnotes – it’s one thing to put the Greek in the note, another completely to ‘explain’ a passage for the reader).

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Reply to  BadThinker
4 years ago

“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!”
 

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
4 years ago

Then “America” is well and truly doomed.

Melissa
Melissa
Reply to  Mitch
4 years ago

It’s insane. The funeral for St. George was a joke. I’m still waiting for them to post a photo of the gentle giant from his middle school basketball team days, playing with a kitten.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Melissa
4 years ago

The left has been turning dead thugs into saints since day one. To call a lefty a hypocrite, is simply redundant.
 

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Sergio
Sergio
4 years ago

My close family has really seen the light after these recent chimpouts. Scenes of blacks burning down cities, taking down historical monuments, wanting to defund the police & whites being blamed for everything has made them terrified but angry at the same time. I think now is the ripe moment for normies to buy into a new political ideology, as you put it. It’s now or never, if whites can’t wake up during this tumultuous time, then it’ll never happen I’m afraid.

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Sergio
4 years ago
Sergio
Sergio
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

This is disgusting. Erasing American history like this. What’s the names they’re gonna put now? Fort George Floyd? Fort Jemima?
 
What a joke.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Sergio
4 years ago

When (when, not if) they take dynamite to Mount Rushmore, what four faces will go up if they re-sculpt it? Okay, MLK is one. Harriet Tubman? Obama? George Floyd?

Sergio
Sergio
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 years ago

Plans are probably already underway. They’re just waiting for another “incident” as an excuse.

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Sergio
4 years ago

They won’t wait. They will create the incident when they think the time is right.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 years ago

They’re not capable of building a monument like that. Like the Indians that have been trying to build the Crazy Horse Monument for the past 90 years, they just don’t have what it takes to pull that off.

Moss
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 years ago

All of the white sculptors are dead. They cannot build anything themselves, only co-opting is possible.

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Reply to  Moss
4 years ago

Wouldn’t that be cultural appropriation, though?? Isn’t that why joggers don’t speak English?

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 years ago

Africans reshaped the sphinx’s lion head & replaced it with a black man’s face, they’ll do same thing to Mount Rushmore
 
500 years from now blacks’ll say USA was created by them
 

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Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  sentry
4 years ago

500 years from now blacks’ll say USA was created by them
 
They say that now.

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Reply to  sentry
4 years ago

Pretty soon, America WILL have been created by them.
 

Carrie
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 years ago

BUT WAIT: you make an assumption about the engineering skills (not to mention the artistry) required to create said “new” sculpture on Rushmore after the “old ones” are gone.
Who’s gonna do all that work? Kareem, Pajeet, and Juan?

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Carrie
4 years ago

Good Whites will do it
 
 
 

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 years ago

Does the Stone Mountain monument in Georgia still exist? I’m pretty sure it was at least defaced.

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Yes, it still exists and always will. It is ENORMOUS. Most people don’t grasp the sheer scale of the thing. Or the fact that it’s carved of sheer, living granite. It was put up there, so it can be removed, but doing so would cost an enormous sum and would take years. But here’s how stupid joggers are: A member of the Atlanta City Council–about 20 yrs ago now–suggested that the carving be sandblasted off of Stone Mountain. No, that carving is not going anywhere, which is not to say they won’t cover it up somehow, but even that would… Read more »

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

It’s still there. But not for long I feel sure

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 years ago

Baby Mama.
 
Don’t forget Baby Mama.
 

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 years ago

They won’t have anyone capable of doing the rescuplting.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Sergio
4 years ago

Tearing down statues of white heroes and scrubbing their names from the public sphere is a metaphor for the dismantling of civilization. And it is happening right before our eyes.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Sergio
4 years ago

In the end they’ll regret racializing the army, and fucking with all those southern/midwestern boys.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Sergio
4 years ago

Renaming is just the start. The Revolution will need lots of office space for their diversity and sensitivity departments.

PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

They are methodically and inexorably showing us just what they intend to do. Any and all remnants of bad whytes will be removed — first white supremacy, then removal of statues, banning of symbols, and renaming (schools and) military bases.
 
A great proportion of the soldiers — enlisted and junior officers come from the old South. I wonder how they’ll react?
 
Impure thoughts aired are now proscribed. How long until they justify full life reviews to determine prohibited thoughts and private action? It is coming.
 
 

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  PrimiPilus
4 years ago

Don’t be too optimistic about the current crop of military folks. From the first day the enter the service, and continuing daily throughout their careers, they are hammered with the poz. Just recently, I had to sign a Page 13 (generic letter of acknowledgement) that I would not be involved in any way with any WS groups. They intentionally left the definitions vague, but people have been disciplined for joining different white/European/Southern identity orgs.   Remember, the US military has always been the proving ground for every left-wing movement. It’s a captive audience that is very used to doing whatever… Read more »

PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
Reply to  Outdoorspro
4 years ago

Trust me … I gave them over 33 years: E1-O6; command through Brigade. I was part (and target) of all those things.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  PrimiPilus
4 years ago

They’re going to regret racializing the army- like this disgraceful SMA – who’s name can be put next to Bremer.
He is our Bremer.
 
They’re going to regret dissolving the Constitutional Govt even more. If there’s no Constitution we’re free agents.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  PrimiPilus
4 years ago

You’ll know it’s lost when they seriously begin to “erase” the founding Fathers. Most all of whom are directly or indirectly cursed with the sins of racism and slavery.   It never ends. It began with allowing the creation/elevation of their pseudo hero’s to the pantheon of national recognition—MLB, Chavez, Parks. Whites were generous in that regard—“let them have their own paid holiday”—they said.   But appeasement never ends and only brought more demands as resentment grew. Reconciliation only announced our weakness. The South was ripe for deconstruction and humiliation when White numbers declined below 50%—just needed the spark to… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

‘then pisses’

(I’ve cleaned a thousand ladies’ rooms, and they don’t have graffiti. Definitely a male doggy thing. In case anyone’s curious.)

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DaDZ
DaDZ
Reply to  PrimiPilus
4 years ago

A great proportion of the soldiers — enlisted and junior officers come from the old South. I wonder how they’ll react? And these young men (and wiminz) have been bathed in the diversity Kool-Aid since conception, the same as any coastal kid from NY, MA, CA etc. The officers got mega-doses of it through their respective commissioning sources, especially the ROTC kids. Once they arrive at their duty stations, they are subjected to constant diversity and inclusion conditioning and practically forced to swear a greater allegiance to those “principles” than the ones of the very country they vowed to defend.… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  DaDZ
4 years ago

They won’t be happy but the USG figures it can replace them with Hispanics I guess. This won’t win any wars, not that the USG is about winning wars but the risk of being splattered going up against the Chi Coms over Taiwan or somewhere is very much higher. If this happens, the less of people on our side killed the better. As far as renaming bases, it sucks but if they do this, so can we, if we take power, Put them back to rights, hell rename things they like to something we like. Stop being such a stick… Read more »

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Reply to  DaDZ
4 years ago

Maybe it would be a good thing if all police departments everywhere were made to disappear. There are millions of heavily armed white men out there just waiting for that very situation to appear–where there is nobody to punish them for what they have wanted for so long to do.
 
Maybe with Lenin we should say, “The worse, the better.”
 
These people should be careful what they wish for; they might just get it.
 

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
4 years ago

Been all over FB with my real name telling Blue Friends walk away, only defend those that appreciate you.
 
Meanwhile sis and kids making Care packages for cops; Pre-packaged Boxes with Blue letters “Thank you for Protecting Us.”

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector

I think investing in supporting police a wise investment.
 
I think the elites will regret betraying the police, the army, forcing degradation upon them.
 
Jim Crow you know was far a worse mistake than slavery; it was degradation, no other impact. A slave can understand being worked for money – but to degrade ? Only yo raise the status of poor whites?
 
As we can see before us, degradation is worse than chains, than death.
 
Of course this isn’t even nogs idea. Its the Karens and the usual suspects.
 
 

Mark Taylor
Mark Taylor

Yes, being being told to kneel is a powerful image. Affirmative action for instance is nationwide and effects peoples lives, but as a recruitment tool kneeling beats it.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  DaDZ
4 years ago

Sounds to me like Normie isn’t the only one scanning the horizon for a signal fire from home.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  DaDZ
4 years ago

We despise the PC.
The PC preachers are the rejects who can’t cut it on the line.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  PrimiPilus
4 years ago

If one looks hard enough, one can find evidence of CrimeThink in just about any white who died before 1980, which means the totality of Western civilization is ripe for eradication.

PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

What was once the norm, and acceptable: first they criticized, then attacked, then made immoral, and finally unthinkable. At the end, it all will be illegal, if that even matters anymore at that point. But yes, once things like honor, truth and believing in the goodness and supremacy of our then-culture, the reality of two sexes, that marriage was between a biological male and female, these were things of which most were guilty. And though all of this, they hated us and our beliefs, and they lied, and schemed, and burrowed beneath and within us. Now we are without recourse.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

You didn’t think you were getting out of this without a fight did you?
In the US we sell enough arms and ammo for an entire civil war ever quarter and have for decades.
Its just a matter of being willing to pay the toll.
As always my public stance is to not break the law or to do stupid things but sooner or later , its going to be bullets or boxcars so best tribe up and be willing to grab power.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

If a fight there must be, a fight there must be.

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Reply to  PrimiPilus
4 years ago

Food shortages and the Grand Solar Minimum will bring people back their senses. Or weed them out. Unemployment will bring a lot of folks back down to earth. Forced vaccinations will replace BLM as the Next Big Thing.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
4 years ago

the covid lockdown has done economic ddamage to the world economy and the complex supply chains. It’s not all visable yet, but lots of countries overseas are faceing dire times ahead . I have noticed locally that nce things dissapear form the wearhouses , stores cannot order more of them from overseas. I think this will be getting much worse soon.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

well there is a Whiteman Air Force Base, you must admit 😈
 

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Sergio
4 years ago

is it just me or did it seem like the black rioters needed wipipil 😀 to show them how to commit directed mayhem?

David Wright
Member
4 years ago

Normie and a lot of dissidents think the ship will right itself in the November election. Supposedly that is when the silents will have their voice heard. I mean, just look at Biden. Trump will destroy him in the debates.
The coronvirus lockdowns were just a trial run to see what normie would put up with. For God’s sake they are still wearing masks! Now most really do think this present theater is about black lives and justice. Need I quote a title from Derbyshire’s book here?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

It is very dispiriting how many people never even questioned the lock downs. Yes, that’s happening now to a small degree but look at what it took for that even to happen. Derb unplayed things.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

I was in the odd position of never really being challenged on the lockdown. All my business is “essential” and none of the Rural Kings, feed stores and big hardware stores near me even required masks. Some of the ones in the city did, but I managed to avoid frequenting them when doing my business.   The only time I had to wear a mask was when taking my daughter to the urgent care for a dislocated kneecap. They had me over a barrel then. The most offensive thing was that there was a metal detector at the entrance to… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

I haven’t worn a Karen Kloth yet. In fact, I cancelled my bi-annual cardio checkup because the clinic required wearing one.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

The meaning of the KOVID Krackdown is that the Constitution isn’t worth the paper upon which it’s printed.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Might that actually be Konsitootion?

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
4 years ago

It might be. If you listen to that self aggrandizing loon from Sam Clam Freakshow.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

thats for sure.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

A Trump loss will absolutely shatter a lot of the Breitbart-types.
 

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Those idiots NEED shattering.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

Derb’s book (10 years ago?), for the younger folks is titled “We Are Doomed.”

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 years ago

Sage advice. No truer words ever spoken.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 years ago

Derb’s book is a gateway drug in the world of Peter Turchin and his cyclical theory of history. Good stuff, I’m inclined to think is right, but depressing as hell.
 
Derb’s book, in his inimitable style, will make you both laugh and cry.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 years ago

still relevent today and worth the read.

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

My city is totally locked down. I see people alone in cars with masks. People on the streets with masks with holes cut for them to breath through. Walking down the sidewalk people get out of my way and walk on the street. It’s really weird.
 
The thing is I still live in the heart of darkness and my eyes are filled with ugliness daily but the horror-show only gets worse .
 
Egad ! 
 
 

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Lurker
4 years ago

My shock is that such things as mask wearing and other “preventatives” are not even justified under scientific study. I read whenever bored or motivated enough the direct, published studies that are supposed to drive such economy shattering recommendations by our “experts”. And I find that in any number of cases, their recommendations are at odds with current data and analysis.   For example:   https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372   NEJM, May 21 study on mask use by public. I’ll save you the read. Mask use in close, constant contact settings—like hospitals, nursing homes—good. Mask use by folks in outside settings, brief encounters… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

…Step 3: these idiots deserve it
 
…Step 4: Dread Lord of the Dark Side

UFO
UFO
Reply to  Lurker
4 years ago

I find this so strange.   Go to Toronto, the second worst hit city in Canada by COVID, and it seems like nobody gives a fuck. Few people wearing masks, people out in groups, etc. People from all swaths of life just don’t care, from rich to poor. Maybe some superficial “efforts” (elbow bump instead of handshake).   If we had to see one benefit of non-white immigration, I suppose this is it. Arabs, blacks, Indians, and the various 3rd worlders living in the GTA are not keen on “social distancing”. Karen can’t really shame you because there are so… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  UFO
4 years ago

In my neck of the woods, its Whites that don’t wear masks. Latinos and Blacks seems to enjoy wearing them probably because it was anti social a few months ago.
Its getting less common and around here honestly no one cares. Its nearly back to normal or whatever passes for it.
There are a few areas with Goodwhites and Karens, they’ve bothered friends of mine but I get left alone. I guess I look too feral.
 

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Lurker
4 years ago

And there you lurk, shuddering, not with fear, not with rage, but trying so damned hard to keep from outright howls of laughter…

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miforest
Member
Reply to  Lurker
4 years ago

you must live near me ! it is exactly the same here .

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

Seatbelts , Motorcycle Helmets and No Smoking in public places, were the nanny state’s trial runs. The ‘lockdown’ and current social engineering programs are on another level altogether.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

All this is temporary, David. Race reality IS going to reassert itself, good and hard. Many on both sides of the divide hate Trump… But there he is. People laugh at derision at the mass media and our leftist rulers. A lot of leftists are horrified at the notion of disbanded police departments. When the police departments fall, and the chimp-outs come daily to respectable and affluent neighborhoods, when the beautiful people start getting their noses rubbed in leftist militancy… Normie is gonna fuggin snap. He’s halfway there already. Historically… This is what happens. Black supremacy is going to be… Read more »

UFO
UFO
Reply to  Glenfilthie
4 years ago

I have found that people on the normie left are easier to convince than people on the normie right. Normie right are true believers in blank slate, stock markets, “we all came from somewhere”. Look at the cowboy hat black man from Wisconsin standing up for cops on TV!   I sense that normie leftists recognize the truth but are ashamed and afraid to express it. Their rejection of the truth can come out as anger, denial, or fear.   I predict that when the hammer drops the normie leftists will fight more viciously to defend their neighborhoods, schools, and… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  UFO
4 years ago

UFO, that makes total sense.

The sounds don’t mean anything, they are hoots and calls to other monkeys in our tree. Chirps and tweets to other birds in our flock.

Barks and howls to other coyotes in our pack.

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  UFO
4 years ago

That’s a very interesting observation.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Glenfilthie
4 years ago

I admit I have never read Art of the deal. But I think Trump is such a weird negotiator that if he were courting your daughter he would pretend to be in love with your son. When you’re at your peak of shocked he would then negotiate a good Dowry and then agree to marry your daughter. 😀

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sentry
sentry
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

In a way da left is right, whites are racists, they do have a natural disgust of black folk & blacks are indeed incapable of reaching white/asian living standards.
This is problematic for someone who holds equality as the most important factor in his moral system, this means he can’t ever achieve salvation so he feels justified in attempting demographic suicide
 

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

Ohh. The constant lowing and mooing is intolerable. As if these diddy bints playing dress-up meant anything.

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Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
4 years ago

People seeing themselves as the reasonable middle is pervasive, largely because being in the middle means they think they are safe from backlash from both the extreme left and extreme right. For example, the normie overwhelmingly supporting BLM, but also overwhelmingly supported using federal troops to quash the riots. One way to break the conditioning is to show that even the most milquetoast normie take will lead the mob to destroy you. The Drew Brees incident jarred my old man. I asked him, flat out, why he watches and cheers people who hate him every fall. Planning to do the… Read more »

Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

The Drew Brees prostration to Negrolatry is the final straw for me.
 
Yes, in the words of Joe Walsh, “my, but [I] learn so slow.”
 
But, better late than never.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Liberty Mike
4 years ago

My office mate told me yesterday that he’s washed his hands of football following the Brees groveling. He’s actually one guy who means it. It pissed him off to no end when he wandered through the break room yesterday and a couple normies were sitting there watching sportsball talk shows on the TV, being fed a torrent if anti-white sentiments by the hosts.

UFO
UFO
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

Yeah, I know lots of Boomers who “actually meant it” when they quit due to Kaepernick, too.
 
“Well, yeah I’m watching again but only one game per week”
 
“Well, yeah, but my QB doesn’t kneel for the flag”
 
“Well, yeah, but they don’t show them kneeling anymore. MAGA – let’s play ball!”
 
Let’s hope this time is different. I’m sure every day a certain number of people are waking up and putting on the steely armour of determination that we have here. But it’s such a tiny minority, still.

Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  UFO
4 years ago

Here, in the heart of Patriot Nation, there were many who echoed the same.
 
“I’m through with the NFL, except for the Patriots.”
 
“The only games I watch now are Patriots games.”
 
A variation, “except for the Pats, and a game with playoff implications for the Pats, no NFL for me.”
 
“I’m done with the NFL except Belichick and Brady.”
 
“I’m not a hypocrite cuz Brady had a MAGA hat.”
 
The other day I told my wife that we are through, she responded by asking, “what took you so long?”

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  UFO
4 years ago

Well, some Boomers mean it. I stopped watching niggerball about 20 years ago. No college or pro football or basketball.
 
I watched a little soccer, but I see too many blacks there now. I was a football coach at one point decades ago.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  UFO
4 years ago

UFO said, Every day a certain number of people are waking up and putting on the steely armour of determination that we have here. But it’s such a tiny minority, still.” Yes and no. Yes, people are waking up—it’s hard not to, given the times—but they may not be (or may not remain) “a tiny minority.” We’ll see when the orcs really do invade the suburbs as they’ve been threatening.
 

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Member
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

One way we can identify “prospects” for Our Thing is stuff like this. More and more people are disgusted and horrified at the directions being taken by many aspects of the pop culture. If your friend is willing to swear off football he may be ready for other ideas.   Which issue to lead him too? Well, all our ideas are connected to some degree just like those of the enemy so it may not matter which specific thing you pick. Just base it on what you know about him. If he likes guns, as do many normie whites, invite… Read more »

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Apex Predator
Apex Predator
4 years ago

I had a bit of an epiphany about this last night because I of the existential dread I was feeling about where we are headed. Once I realized what the ‘play’ is I felt much better. This was also partially fueled by being blackpilled and defeatist on yesterday’s replies.   I ain’t that guy. I’ve already faced consequences on this very topic most of you can’t (and shouldn’t) imagine. So how to prevent more of you from joining me? Then it hit me and it is something from the Game era and from Heartiste (PBUH). You are dealing with a… Read more »

Carrie
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Apex:
For my own clarity’s sake: I think I get your example. But let me ask again in a different way, using a different example:
such as: the issue of reparations. As a strategy: agree & amplify.
So: I’d agree with the sh*tlib about the topic, and engage them, ask questions about how much, who, how long, etc.
I was a bit unclear on the “Karen” and “you” scripted example above.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Carrie
4 years ago

It is as simple as taking whatever virtue signal they are spewing and dialing it up to Clown World Mega proportions. For normies, you want to follow up with questions like, I thought you supported this cause? Of course people need to be imprisoned or killed. This will cause enough cogdis in a normie that you gently ‘steer’ them back off the cliff. For shitlibs, you want to do the opposite and go full throttle. You must -always- keep them off their feet. This is the ‘neg’ from Game Theory applied to woke bullshit. You mean you only PARTLY support… Read more »

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

JFC, sorry for the grammar / spelling mistakes in that. This is why I like having an edit button attached to an account. 🙂   p.s. For the above strategy, the idea for normies is to ‘shock the system’ so they see in their confused minds the end game which likely will be tithes, danegeld, imprisonment, etc. for the insufficiently woke. There is a -lot- of historical precedent for this. For the wokesters the idea is to simply get them to destroy each other in case it wasn’t clear why you are using the same strategy on both groups. I… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Apex, I’ve been using that technique for a few years now, and I can vouch for it being effective. I tend to do the “slow push” leading to 11 rather going directly to 11, i.e. I make normie turn the dial with me.   Normie: We need to bring communities together and fight against racism and social injustice.   Me: Absolutely, but talking isn’t enough. People have been talking about these things for years. We need to actually do something. (Start slowly pushing Normie toward changes in his life.)   Normie: Of course, of course. I just contributed to the… Read more »

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

I see what you are saying but the problem is you are dealing with Joe Six Pack here who is NOT the sharpest tool in the shed. That subtle build technique you are using is great for ‘closing’ leftist retard women and bedding them. For what you are trying to accomplish, it may have the exact opposite effect.   You are pitching softballs that they may absorb as truth in this hysterical time of clown world insanity. By slow boiling them, you may find them agreeing with you at the end because midwits gonna midwit. This is why I drop… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

You have a point. These days, I might end up with them agreeing with me, which isn’t exactly the intent.
 
Though I have seen my slow burn style work on a husband’s face as I talk to his NWL wife.

Moss
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

This is fantastic. Thank you.

UFO
UFO
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Haha, I made a similar comment maybe a week ago. Too lazy to go find it. Wahmen and soys are a collective hysterical woman, and White Men are men.
 
We’re being faced with a giant shit test and we’re badly failing. Feminism is a shit test too. White men failed that one.
 
These are existential. I pass every time, mostly because I don’t give a fuck about feminism or white privilege, and wahmen / soys are just annoying flies buzzing around. 99% of white men fail though.
 

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Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
4 years ago

This is it. Now is the best time we’ve ever had to Sell Normie. With the riots, the lootings, the burnings, the kneeling, the washing of feet, the BLM in giant letters on the street in DC, with the open pathetic cuck behavior of elite whites, the worshiping of a career criminal, if we can’t convert Normie to our side we’re bad salesmen and the West is doomed.
 

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Epaminondas
Epaminondas
4 years ago

I can see the day coming when all white people will be expected to publicly wash the feet of a black person on Martin Luther King Day. Soap optional.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

I saw it said somewhere that Jesus washed the feet of his apostles, NOT the Pharisees and NOT the Romans.
 
i thought that was a great line.

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

When MLK Foot Wash Day becomes de rigueur, liberal Christians will be there to provide free paper towels and coffee.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Black people use table (nap)kins, not paper towels.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

And donuts. Don’t forget the donuts.

HamburgerToday
HamburgerToday
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

No. Liberals will be there to sell special towels and event-specific coffee for the occasion. It’ll be Kwanzaa For Whitey.

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  HamburgerToday
4 years ago

It’s great to see you here, Hamburger. Welcome home!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

They are not Christians. They are AWRs who’ve hijacked Christianity as a vehicle for their ideology. Belief in Jesus as the path to salvation doesn’t come into the bargain.

Mac
Mac
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

This whole disgrace has completely taken over my church. It’s not a church anymore. It’s a racial political action committee now.

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Reply to  Mac
4 years ago

In that case, it is no longer your church. get out now. And don’t look back. Depending on where you live, there are sound alternatives.
 
All the best!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mac
4 years ago

If my church ever sinks to that level, I’ll quit it.

Acolyte
Acolyte
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

As a small child I attended the mortgage burning for my Episcopal church building. A year ago, five queers were running the place and there were approximately five attendees. The diocese carried the operating expenses including salaries.
 
A few weeks ago the building was listed for sale. The other Episcopal church within 50 miles is bordering on collapse and it will go under according to childhood friends this next year.
 
From ashes to ashes and from dust to dust. I converted to Orthodox Christian. Queers and SJW need not apply.

Milestone D
Milestone D
Reply to  Acolyte
4 years ago

My mom’s church is dying for the same reasons. A few years ago they went Hard Left and drove all the families away. So now the church membership are all aging liberals – congregational hospice, it’s just a matter of time before the church literally dies off. I told my mom to stop arguing the finer points of Protestant theology and instead start commenting how their church building, the oldest in her state, constructed in 1805, will make really nice condo’s in a few years. Apparently that line has caught some people’s attention. But not enough to change anything.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Mac
4 years ago

Kiss the devil’s ass one time, and your breath will never be minty fresh again.

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

“They are AWRs who’ve hijacked”
 
AWR? Ass to waist Ratio?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 years ago

Anti-White Racists, the actual meaning of “Equality”

Whitney
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

And anti-pope bergoglio washes Muslims feet

Carrie
Reply to  Whitney
4 years ago

Bravo on the correct naming convention of Jorge!
(a.k.a. the Antipope. It is indeed Truth.)

Acolyte
Acolyte
Reply to  Whitney
4 years ago

I wash their feet too. I earn a small fortune from recapturing the oil on them. Just avoid the left hand.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

I wish someone would grab that anti-Pope by his scrawny neck and point that fact out. I lay this on whole thing on him and his washing Saracen feet stunt. I say this as a Roman Catholic. Of course, that would take Cardinals and influential Bishops to do so, and they obediently went along with the entire shutting the churches down for covid. You know, cause Jesus wasn’t a rock the boat type. Isn’t “Go along, get along” in the gospels somewhere?

Carrie
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 years ago

@Penitent: I too am R.C. And as the lovely Ann Barnhardt likes to point out: if one, just one of these gutless, feckless, useless Cardinals stopped being “afraid for their lives” and had 1 other person film them on an iPhone, followed by a quick upload, they would begin to put an end to this whole thing.   Imagine: a five-minute video naming names and telling the truth, and the whole house of cards would begin to tumble.   But that would, of course mean, that said Cardinal (of the video) would likely lose his life. But I thought that’s… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Carrie
4 years ago

Archbishop Vigano, Chaput and as far back as Archbishop Lefebvre have been fighting but the putrid rot is deep.
 
From your lips to God’s ear, Miss Carrie.

Mr.Normie
Mr.Normie
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 years ago

I thought the Pope got direct communication from “God?”

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Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Jesus washed the feet of prostitutes.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Actually He allowed a prostitute to wash his feet. And kept the company of the unclean and deviant but not in the way the demented Lefties like to portray, as if he was just cool with what they did and hip to different “lifestyles”. Jesus always forgave but with the admonition and command to “Go, and sin no more”. Quite a different reality.   If the anti-Pope washed the feet of M.E. and African migrants seeking admission to the faith, eschewing their former religions, and repenting their sins… he would have at least been doctrinally and theologically correct.   Instead… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 years ago

Actually He allowed a prostitute to wash his feet. 
 
Right, my mistake.
 
Still, Christians are a bunch of wet hens, morally, and get a virtue-buzz when they wash the feet of criminals. And the more reprehensible the criminal, the more virtue they experience, because the bigger the sinner, the more joy in heaven over you forgiving him his transgressions against you.
 
Forgiving the virtuous is child’s play, only a good Christian can forgive their brother’s murderer.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

They’ve been tricked- into reciting the shahada.

This is where and how they’ve been quietly hijacked. Redirected, all unknowing. The Zman gives us a perfect picture, today, of the means.

I hesitate to explain, but will.

It’s a short explanation, too.

The Christians are absolutely necessary for what they do, just as “atheists”- not active anti-theists, but simply those with a different operating framework- are absolutely necessary for what they can do. Complementary.

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Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

If they have been highjacked, it is as much their own fault as that of the kidnappers. The Scriptures are there for their learning, and there are sound churches, too, but you have to DO something to find them, so the people you are talking about can’t be bothered–for exactly the reason Zman says in this article–they like to feel good about themselves. They like feeling smug. And making an EFFORT to learn anything is beyond their capacity or their will. THEY DON’T WANT IT. These people are highjacked because of their own ignorance–willful ignornace–and their own egos.   Nothing… Read more »

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

No. You are confused. Nobody–including God–forgives unilaterally. It doesn’t work that way. Forgiveness and pardon follow
ONLY upon (1) confession of guilt; and (2) request for pardon and forgiveness.
 
These people who go around indulging their egos by all this trendy “forgiving” are not Christians at all, regardless of what they, or you, or the public at large may think.
 
Forgiveness is not, and by definition cannot be, unilateral. Ever.
 

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
4 years ago

No. You are confused. Nobody–including God–forgives unilaterally. It doesn’t work that way.   Just calling it as I see it. Your theology may differ (Christians all seem to have their own, personal Jesus who coincidentally always happen to share their idiosyncratic moral values) but the huge majority of Christians are all about bending the knee and washing the foot, and it’s not just the prelates either: next to cat ladies and e-thots, the bane of our generation is church ladies.   But if you could post a link to some Christian organisation embracing ethno-nationalism or even Christian nationalism, I’m all… Read more »

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vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Christianity?
Speaking of can’t save everyone…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Felix,   “Christians all seem to have their own, personal Jesus who coincidentally always happen to share their idiosyncratic moral values”…   Not really. It shouldn’t be comfortable, or an easy fit, for a creature to emulate or kneel before divine perfection. I love a well shaped womans leg but I strive mightily to not look lasciviously at women who are not Mrs. P. I enjoyed the thrill of combat but should have eschewed that primal exhilaration. I enjoy victory too much, pride too often, and can relish petty revenge.   No friend, an easily adaptable god for me would… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
4 years ago

exactly roosian

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Some are “wet hens”.. I like that saying.   Perhaps. Depends on what you view as a Christian.   Was the act of these sorry whites a Christian act? It must be broken down.Were the black recipients penitents seeking forgiveness and entrance into the Body of Christ and thus the act was given as a humble welcome from one sinner to another? No.   The blacks were not approaching with humility seeking closeness to God and were instead looking for homage from the whites. This is the act of a victor or conqueror for them and nothing to do with… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 years ago

 I just wanted to make you aware there is a robust masculinity to Christ
 
If you say so, but I’m just not seeing it out there, not in the real world and not on the internet.
 
When Trump waved that Bible around, it wasn’t a threat to wage holy war, it was an attempt to Jesus-shame white Christians into forgiving the wicked.
 
Modern, mainstream Christianity is little better than a branch of Amnesty International, a George Soros-operation.
 
Also, Jesus was a kike.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 years ago

Thank you, my good sir. Thank you.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 years ago

Behold a glutton and a drunkard! A friend of tax collectors and sinners. This is one of my favorite quotes
😀

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

Ah, you do realize that you’re quoting one of the Carpenter’s Son’s critics, don’t you.

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Really? Is that in “The Gospel According to St Felix”?

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Felix Krull said: ” Jesus washed the feet of prostitutes.”
Your not much of a bible scholar, are you? If he had washed the feet of prostitutes they would have crucified him twice.
 

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Feathered Brick
Feathered Brick
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

It was a symbol that He, their Lord and Master, cleansed them of their daily sins. Jesus was not begging his disciples for forgiveness.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

The whole “feet washing” thing is just alien. Biblical, yes, but misplaced in the modern western world. Does any culture on the planet still do this?
 
In the words of our red guard overlords, how is this not “cultural appropriation?”
 
What’s next? Prima Nocta? Self-flagellation? Crucifixion?
 
DIE, indeed (Diversity, Inclusion, Equality)
 

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Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  ProZNoV
4 years ago

Here is the greatest irony. Christian theology is the cornerstone of leftist ideology. Christianity without Christ. Think that over. Christian ethics and virtues detached from Christ, is in fact the wellspring of all leftist iterations.
 
 

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Expected to and doing are very different things.

JDS
JDS
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Are you insane? Soap is a European innovation. A symbol of white supremacy

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  JDS
4 years ago

So is toilet paper…

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Ah, but I said, “paper towels”.

Apuleius
Apuleius
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

“Christian theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism.” 
― Oswald Spengler

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Apuleius
4 years ago

Which explains the overwhelming Jewishness of Bolshevism, right?

Some Guy
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Maybe they can do it at the intersection of MLK Blvd. and BLM Avenue.

Oak Street Beach
Oak Street Beach
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Truly Clown World:   • If a dude pretends to be a woman, you are required to pretend to agree with him.   • Somehow it’s un-American for the census to count how many Americans are in America.   • Russians influencing our elections are bad, but illegals voting in our elections are good.   • It was cool for Joe Biden to “blackmail” the President of Ukraine, but it’s an impeachable offense if Donald Trump inquires about it.   • Twenty is too young to drink a beer, but eighteen is old enough to vote.   • People who… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

The tact I try to use is that you need to love yourself before you can love anyone else, no one is going to respect a loser who hates himself and tries to gloat about being a loser. Not sure if it works or not though. I extend it with my analogy about how the airline safety video tells you to put your oxygen mask on first: you won’t be able to help anyone if you don’t bother to save yourself first. I then take it to the next step and ask them if they’d then put the mask on… Read more »

waitingForTheStorm
waitingForTheStorm
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

First off: tack, not tact. Sorry, pet peeve.   You are right on about loving yourself; and it goes farther into the concept of respect. In terms of the airline question, I would put on my mask and then the mask of anyone dear to me if they were incapable. If a stranger were having trouble, I might help them only so much as it would not endanger me in any way.   As to the article. I don’t want to be a good person, except to my wife and kids. Everyone else can FOAD; especially if they are involved… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

I’ve used that oxygen mask analogy for years. Easy to understand and easy for people to apply to many facets of their lives.

Vegetius
Vegetius
4 years ago

 Consider a bear baiting
 
 https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.qfMtpeZ33_9UAqEtESoL5QHaE9%26pid%3DApi&f=1
 
 
The bear is the Normie Right.
The dogs are the left.
The gallery is filled with normie whites.
The Usual Suspects hold leash and chain.
The chain is political correctness.
What is the bear’s problem?
 
It’s the chain.
 
 

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bubba
bubba
4 years ago

All due respect, Z, I strongly disagree here. The whole concept of “reaching out to normies” is a giant waste of time and is comparable to the alt-right’s obsession with the unicorn black MAGAtards. Andrew Anglin actually wrote a great article on this a few days ago. In a nutshell, we’re not gonna convince any more “normies” of our ideas and positions. Those who wanted to choose a side have already chosen it. Battle lines have been drawn. The information on immigration, Zionism, neocon ideology etc. is widely and freely available online. If “normies” actually gave a shit, they would… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  bubba
4 years ago

The whole concept of “reaching out to normies” is a giant waste of time
 
Then where did all the people on this talkboard come from?
 
Back in the noughties, white nationalism was David Duke and Jared Taylor, today we are legion and Big Propaganda has resorted to a scorched earth strategy, burning their own business models down in terror of us.

bubba
bubba
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Without sounding like a snob, we ended up here because we are predisposed to critical thinking and not afraid of PC bullshit. Yes, so far we are only discussing issues anonymously, but it’s a start. The “normies” are either too scared, too dumb, or too apathetic to be relevant.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  bubba
4 years ago

Without sounding like a snob, we ended up here because we are predisposed to critical thinking and not afraid of PC bullshit.    So why didn’t we have this traction in the noughties? Were people less intelligent back then?   Read the comments on all major DisRight talkboards, and you’ll find plenty who being with “I used to think…”   No, proselytizing works. And I suspect it works better than we think. Several of my ostensibly Normie friends are total race realists and anti-globohomo – they don’t dare come out of the closet publicly due to the social penalty, so… Read more »

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Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

I was a racist liberal for most of my life . The Ernst Zundel Trial and the firebombing of his house set me straight . I worked with a fellow who provided security for him at the trials.
 
Seeing Tom Metzger’s son John and his mates bust Gerry ‘Geraldo’ Rivera’s nose on television let me know that there were Americans, who had not lost their minds.
 
I had to shut my gob all my life.
 
The last 4 years have given me hope !
 
 
 

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King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  bubba
4 years ago

Hard to believe now but only 3 years ago I was muh open borders, muh restaurants, muh individuals.

UFO
UFO
Reply to  King Tut
4 years ago

My gradual descent into the abyss started in 2016 with Trump… in 2018 it took a sharp turn.
 
If it took us 3-5 years, and every other white is starting out now where we were 5 years ago… things will be “interesting” by the mid 2020s, to say the least.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  bubba
4 years ago

not all of us use pseudonyms. I for one am really a layabout 😊

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  bubba
4 years ago

I can’t disagree with bubba more. The number of normies isn’t miniscule. Trump won the election on the backs of normies. Those patriotic flag-waving MAGA folks at the Trump rallies are normies. The immigration issue wasn’t allowed into the mainstream until Trump shoved it there during the 2016 campaign. The info on Zionism, critical neocon idealogy and immigration (legal) isn’t in the mainstream. Rush and Hannity and even Tucker won’t (or can’t) talk about certain topics. Many of our guys have been and are still being banned from big online platforms, like FB, twitter, and youtube. Many books (like Greg… Read more »

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Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  bubba
4 years ago

I think we can all agree Andrew “88” Anglin has already gotten all the adherents he ever will. He’s the oxyclean pitchman rubbing the severed hand on the carpet, and everyone emotionally stunted enough to not be turned off has already gone into that camp.
Also, 0 for 2 on the reading comp: muh facts convinces 5, maybe 10 percent of any population – salesmanship, rhetoric, emotional appeals are needed for the other 95%: its marketing, not markets, that gets people on our side.

bubba
bubba
Reply to  Educated.redneck
4 years ago

Exactly my point. The normies don’t give a shit about facts. Everyone knows blacks are predisposed to violence and live in dysfunctional communities. Everyone knows Jews run the media. Everyone knows immigration is out of control.
 
The normies simply A) don’t give a shit or B) are too scared to say anything that rocks the boat. Either way, pandering to them is pointless.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Educated.redneck
4 years ago

Your opinion of Anglin is quite out of date. Daily Stormer hasn’t featured the Hail Hortler stuff in 2+ years.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
4 years ago

FWIW I was normie until I went broke for a while after ‘08. Eating plain rice, taking a job as a janitor, and selling possessions to make rent put things in perspective. I believe prosperity, or at least its appearance, is the biggest barrier to appealing to normie.

For instance, when someone says ‘white’, normie hears ‘inequality’. On some level he knows that white means white and that he’s disliked simply for being white, but he can afford to delude himself. He has the luxury of being naive.

Owlman
Owlman
4 years ago

Look, IMO to seek to come up with ideas to “convince” this “Normie” is to BE Normie. To buy into the idea that what ails the culture can be fixed at the ballot box. Again, one man’s opinion here, you might as well buy into the any other leftist premise along the way. There are plenty on the march now to choose from. Once their nation fell, partisans had to figure out ways to survive once they chose to take to the forests. They made the choice NOT to collaborate. Not to be hauled off to a labor camp. Now… Read more »

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Owlman
4 years ago

Excellent points. The real question is WHEN to head off to the forest. We haven’t gotten there yet, but we need to understand that the time is coming. Never compromise. Take no prisoners.

Moss
Member
Reply to  Owlman
4 years ago

I’m with Owl on this. Z is begging the question that “Wake Up Normie” (“Sell To”) should be a strategy at all. Given limited time and personal resources, I believe those of us behind enemy lines should be vacating, not worrying about those that are asleep or panicking. Sell the house before the bubble pops, liquidate your junk, get mobile and retreat to areas where the potential to find community and protection is greater. My company will eventually show up on the Silence Is Violence radar. When it happens, I’ll maintain silence, not show fealty, and be gone. The work… Read more »

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Moss
4 years ago

Moss, I agree with your points, and you put it better than I did in terms of specific, concrete suggestions. I live within commuting distance of a blue capitol that was sacked recently and is undergoing continued turmoil. Already, the housing prices here have INCREASED since the riots, when I was expecting them to go down. While my wife is not a Normie, as a decent woman she has normal concerns. Yet, she has agreed to the plan of sell and get out while the getting is good. That makes her the only “Normie” I need to convince. However, SHE… Read more »

Moss
Member
Reply to  Owlman
4 years ago

Excellent news. Operating as a couple is a huge advantage. It’s also freeing, as head of the house, to get a different perspective and trust the input.
I failed to listen to wise voices in our space months ago and I’m playing catch up. Massive lifestyle shifts now in order to move toward stability are absolutely temporary pain. Remember that. Take action while you can, operating under the radar. Soon enough the Eye of Sauron will reach everyone!

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Moss
4 years ago

Z is begging the question that “Wake Up Normie” (“Sell To”) should be a strategy at all… those of us behind enemy lines should be vacating, not worrying about those that are asleep or panicking… get mobile and retreat to areas where the potential to find community and protection is greater.

I understand getting out if you’re “behind enemy lines” but we’re running out of places to go. Maybe we can’t wake up Normie everywhere, but we need to wake up Normie somewhere.

Moss
Member
Reply to  Federalist
4 years ago

Federalist, Why do you need to wake up Normie given the opportunity cost of doing so? Consortium perhaps is valuable. A serious question.
I’m operating under the assumption that there is more I can do to become durable, lean and defendable. To limit the System’s impact on me once they command everyone, “Bow”! My motivation is not at the exclusion of Awoke Normie’s coming along to help. It’s simply that investing in Normie “Wake Up Drops” is low on my cost/benefit analysis.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Moss
4 years ago

Moss,
Z isn’t question begging, the “build communities” thing has been discussed at great length here before. Run to the hills is not a viable long term option – you will just die alone and scared. Throw away everything and follow me only works for Jesus, and you ain’t Him.

Moss
Member
Reply to  Educated.redneck
4 years ago

Fellow Educated Redneck,
I contend that Z’s choice of topics suggests he thinks this is important enough to discuss. So, I stand by my position.
Lao Tzu might agree that the hills are a good place to attack from, in numbers of course.
And the Rich Young Ruler that Jesus turned away was confronted with his idol. It had nothing to do with wealth and everything to do with his heart. Jesus read saw into his heart and mind, that’s all. A strange reference to my position, IMO. I appreciate you weighing in.

Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
4 years ago

My own personal piece of advice: dont be afraid to plant the seed and wait and dont be frustrated. We are in this for the long haul. I consider myself fairly aware of what is going on, but it took me years and i had to hear things multiple times before i could accept them, and i went down several dead ends that wasted months of time and on and on. People will need time, in fact its probably a red flag if they instantly go from normie to believing it all imo.   The number one personality trait youre… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Irishfarmer
4 years ago

Still flipping over in my head of how to defeat the sportsball fanaticism. If/when whites find a way to bring one of their enemies to their knees, the world will change, and all they need to do is <i>not show up</i>; but Z is right, trying to sell them on the idea of giving something up is hard.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

Since I don’t follow the negro felon league anymore, I’m not sure, but would guess there’s a reasonable chance they may not even have a season. Or if so, then a truncated, largely no fans in the stands season. As well, it would seem the college season may also be kaput. A lot of fans may walk away in that scenario once they realize they can actually live w/o it.

Maple Curtain
Maple Curtain
4 years ago

“One of the truths about politics that many would prefer to ignore is that politics is not about facts and reason. The game is about persuasion.”   Too many WN want to believe that facts and reason persuade, but they cannot persuade people of modest IQ who can’t/won’t make the effort to understand, and, as you note, whose psychological comfort zone is wildly threatened by (what they see as because Jewvision has told them so) deviating from the safety of the herd.   Messaging has to be simple , which is why those who ‘meme’ well are so effective in… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Maple Curtain
4 years ago

You underestimate how tightly people cling to their beliefs. Highly intelligent people are not exempt.

Lurker
Lurker
4 years ago

  I myself can’t watch the scenes of White people genuflecting and washing the feet of negroes – when I think of that photo of the Bishop of Rome doing just that, I am filled with disgust !    How is it possible that this is not a spectacular own goal ?    Maybe the target audience isn’t the normal White person but the negro and non-Whites? Maybe it’s for a global audience ? Maybe these are astroturfed media events created to provide social proof like Bernays’ ” Lucky Strike” cigarette ad campaign ?   I’m told that that is the main… Read more »

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David Wright
Member
Reply to  Lurker
4 years ago

You see all those genuflecting idiots and have to ask a lot of certain dissidents if they still want an ethno-state.
Genuflecting is only something done in a catholic church. Easy to remember.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

So just because some on our side are traitors we shouldn’t want our own country for our people…We will definitely have to be vigilant in keeping the good whites in line or kicking them out if they go insane…

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Lineman, I think you’ve got the Zman’s message backwards.

 

Whitey’s instinct is to get in line, to be good as he can– and that trait has been tricked.

 

We don’t need Black ‘justice’. They beat the sh*t out of their own, all the time, because it’s like water off a duck’s back. Doesn’t faze ’em.

 

Us, we’re like dogs, wanting to be welcome in the pack. If you beat a dog, he doesn’t get nicer, he gets suspicious and mean.

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Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

Wasn’t replying to Z was replying to David…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

No AWRs in the ethnostate. Period. But they wouldn’t want to be there except to subvert it anyway.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

Coming from the perspective of someone who was actively involved in a certain movement during the 2016-17 timeframe, the whole “Ethnostate” thing really blinded us to the very serious issue of Gentile GoodWhites.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Lurker
4 years ago

Note the discrepancy in reciprocating of foot washing. If one wants to signal fellowship and reconciliation, then such an act is done by both parties. But when it symbolizes subservience, only one party washes. That is how I explain it to others.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Lurker
4 years ago

You are 100% wrong about interracial porn. It has a secondary knock-on effect of letting black males live out fantasy yes. It’s primary function and this has been the case for decades since porn become legal is to normalize the white female / black male paradigm. Negro bucks are the ‘right’ choice for feminine white women. This is consumed by young white males who then internalize this pathology.   Taking their already broken sense of identity even further down. Hence the multi-prong attack of faggotry/trans/etc plus the IR porn. You are seeing an explosion in the number of white boys… Read more »

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

I’ve always though of interspecies romance as bestiality. I have to avert my gaze.   With regard to the homos I used to think it was clever to say, “what a man did with his horse in private was none of my business as long as he kept the barn door closed”. Now they have parades in the street with their farm animals and are sent into schools and libraries to recruit converts – i.e the ‘fallacy’ of the slippery slope.   I looked into it a bit – Institut für Sexualwissenschaft and who was behind the changes ‘normalizing’ homomania… Read more »

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Lurker
4 years ago

I think you’re on to something.

Our mistake, often, is in thinking that they’re speaking to *us*.

That’s why the messages don’t really make sense- to us. It’s code.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
4 years ago

Some things sell themselves. The propaganda organs try to hide the violent attacks on whites. We need to circulate the available vids as widely as possible and ask “imagine when your children are a minority.” I do think there will be a backlash, but the question is whether it will be overwhelmed by those who prefer to be subjugated. This is one area where the DR can determine the outcome in short order.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

Our children are a minority.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Tykebomb
4 years ago

And they’ve been conditioned to think that’s just wonderful.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
4 years ago

“It’s not so much that he fears being at the mercy of non-whites.” – Jackpot. That’s the problem right there. And this is why, I think exiled right wing Californians peppered throughout mostly the west are years ahead of the rest of the country. Californians who know what to fear and why. Whites are now a sub-minority in the state. The malfunctioning school systems are La-Raza brainwashing operations and have been for years. So when Tarantino does that hyper-sentimental, boring nostalgia trip about Hollywood and The Valley, in-between his blaxploitation movies, it was actually an obituary of a formerly white… Read more »

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

You are right. An obituary. That’s one way to look at that film. I love that movie, though, and bought the DVD. When it first came out, I went to see it in a theater. I was lmao throughout. It really took me back to 1969 when my husband was on deployment during the Vietnam War. We were living near a base in So Cali in 1970, so I had time to get used to the ethos in that place. I remember being disturbed then that Sharon Tate was married to Roman Polanski. The thing I noticed about the film… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

You would think normie would look beyond his geography and get a clue.
JR it’s that old frog in the pot analogy the heat was turned up slowly over time so they didn’t jump out…It’s funny when I talk to people that have made that leap and they see what living is outside of CA they always say I don’t know why in the h*ll we didn’t get out sooner and if they still have family there and they go back to visit they can see the filth they use to live in and it repulses them…
 

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Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

A lot of my current understanding of things derives from growing up in Baltimore during The Great Transition as it went from white to black. A lot of the trouble I have understanding the pozzed whites here on the West Coast is that I tend to assume most of the goodwhites here are just hypocrites who deny what they know from experience. Most don’t have the experience I did though. I wouldn’t wish on anyone the experience of being white in Baltimore, Detroit, CA, South Africa, or any other place overrun by PoC but it does seem to prime a… Read more »

King Tut
King Tut
4 years ago

My reading of the state of normie in Britain is rather different than those about US normies in the comments above.
 
I have been quite active on social media during this spasm and I can report that more than few eyes have been opened. Several previously card-carrying civnats and normiecons of my acquaintance are starting to look pink around the gills. I am seeing a level of awareness on my timelines that I did not see even a month ago. Very encouraging and, yes, I am doing my bit to nudge them along. No pushback at all.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  King Tut
4 years ago

Well, keep a light on for us over here (and maybe a visa handy). You guys still have a chance demographically. That’s done over here. We can’t save what was once our country. That horse is out of the barn even if that’s hard to see right now.   Honestly though, any of the European countries could do what the Dems did here, except in reverse. They brought in non-whites to tip the scales. If whites woke up in England and took control of the government, they could import whites from S.A., USA, Canada, NZ and Australia, offering them a… Read more »

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

Citizen, I’m afraid that we still have a way to go. But at least there are some small, green shoots.

UFO
UFO
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

If the UK had a government committed to BRITISH people, I would immediately leave this shithole Ontario and go back to my ancestral homeland.
 
As it stands now, though, the UK is on the same path as us but with further to fall. It is probably more depressing to live through a place going from 85% white to 50%, than from 50% to 30% (Toronto).
 
It’s all by design. Everywhere has to be the same to keep us from leaving.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  UFO
4 years ago

Yep, at the moment, Europe and the UK are better demographically than the US and, I guess, Canada, but they’re still on the same path, just a bit behind us. In ~20 years, they’ll be right where we are now unless they change course. And I truly hope that they do. We may need a place to flee to.

UFO
UFO
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

https://censusmapper.ca/maps/926#10/43.6987/-79.3817
 
You can use this tool to see how many “visible minorities” there are in each area. Canada is fucked. Worse than USA because of the density in a few cities.
 
If Europe wasn’t on an even more suicidal course right now we would see millions flee there already.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  UFO
4 years ago

Wow, Canada will be majority non-white likely before the U.S. That’s amazing. You guys really made up for lost ground. Canadians always did like to beat their big brother.
 
Granted, you were at least smart enough to bring in Indians and Chinese instead of Mexicans. Canada has imported an over class while Americans imported an under class, though we’re bringing in the Indians and Chinese now as well. Good time ahead.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

Yea but when you think about it Citizen it’s better to be ruled by the stupid evil rather than the smart evil because you can live in the cracks while building a resistance…

Mark Auld
Mark Auld
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

They are called Globo homo for a reason.

Mark Auld
Mark Auld
Reply to  King Tut
4 years ago

Thank you for the white pill brother Tut…I needed that.

BTP
Member
4 years ago

The other possibility is that Normie’s real pain is the terror of racism. Of all things in this world, they want to be absolved of racism more than anything else. More than they want their children to flourish, more than they want functioning cities, more than anything at all.
If that’s the case, then it’s the rioters who have made the sale: Normie really wants to be humiliated and they’ve found a way for him to get what he wants.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  BTP
4 years ago

> Of all things in this world, they want to be absolved of racism more than anything else.
 
Too bad for them in this new religion there is no forgiveness.

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

I would call it “perpetual purgatory”.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

They think just one more self-flagellation and they will reach heaven. They complete the ritual and a black man tells him, no, you must do more, you must degrade yourself more. Such is the pattern they will follow, their own personal hell, for eternity.
Even Dante would find that a little extreme.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

Maybe, Chet. But recall the worst Hell is reserved for traitors.
In fact, there are specifics. Those who betray their family, their nation, and their guests are treated with special torments. These apply with special force in these times.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  BTP
4 years ago

My standard sales pitch:

“Racism is a word invented by a foreign pervert, so a foreign communist could murder white Christians. That’s what that word was invented for.

Why would you accept being judged by people who use that word?

Racist means white Christian.”

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King Tut
King Tut
4 years ago

Zman’s suggestions are good strategy but also, in my view, a litmus test.
If any normie is still unmoved at the prospect of their children being loathed and detested minorities, then you know immediately that he or she is unsalvageable. Do not waste another microsecond on them.
 
Do we really want any allies that are so contemptuous of and callous towards their own posterity? We’re better off without them. Leave them to go and wash Sh’niqua’s feet.

Carrie
4 years ago

This right here. THIS. This very topic is one of the great learnings / challenges of my life. I am not a “soft sale” type of person. More like: “hit them over the head with a brick, and ask why they don’t see what’s obvious.” The “soft sale” on bringing others to this side of the divide is one of the greatest challenges ever. (Especially with women. Sheesh. Women. [shakes head in frustration].) And yes, I am one. But a rare one, indeed. Range Front Fault, Whitney, and myself. (And I think 3g4me.) It’s an education in patience, to be… Read more »

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Carrie
4 years ago

On your list of females, also: Where Are The Vikings (who visits from time to time).

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
4 years ago

Most normies are not much interested in details. They live in the moment. Any interest in the past is almost always for entertainment purposes or a justification for the present. Z is absolutely correct: any appeal that isn’t immediate and at the gut level is wasted breath.   “We’re going to become a minority, a hated minority even if we stop all immigration. What’s your plan? Let the market decide? Allow the Constitution to magically undo what has been done to us during the past 70 years? Our forefathers resorted to much stronger actions with a lot less at stake…but we’re… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Yves Vannes
4 years ago

Every conversation should include whitey becoming a minority. A despised minority. If I have time I like to briefly describe the ’65 Immigration Act, saying that’s where it all started. I’ve yet to find a Normie who’s aware of that. They tend to think becoming more multiracial is natural and they way America is supposed to be.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 years ago

’65 is a good place to begin once you’ve caught their interest.   The immigration act.   The attack on family stability with the Griswold Act making contraception easily and the freely available.   The attack on public decency with the overturning of the moral code Challahwood once had to abide by. The Pawnbroker gave a green light to nudity in film. It was only a foot in the door if even that but in hindsight it gave the redlight district access to mainstreet and everyone’s home.   An attack on cultural unity, an attack on family stability & formation… Read more »

greyenlightenment
4 years ago

Look how popular sites such as Unz and Dlive are, as well as various right-wing radio shows, videos, blogs and websites. The situation is not as hopeless as it may seem. There are a lot of people who agree in regard to race and immigration. The far-left makes the most noise, but to invoke Nixon and Trump, there is a silent majority.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  greyenlightenment
4 years ago

But for how long?
 
We will soon become a silent minority and being a minority requires very different tactics to being a majority.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  greyenlightenment
4 years ago

I hope you are correct about “right-wing radio shows,” which seem counterproductive because of how strongly they affirm the “racism is bad” and “your belief is only valid if it helps blacks or you can find a black person who supports it” narratives.
 
“Lowest black unemployment ever!” or “Candice Owens supports my beliefs!” are sad examples.

greyenlightenment
Reply to  LineInTheSand
4 years ago

I mean more like TRS and other online shows . .

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
4 years ago

These riots and the sucking up to the rioters has been demoralizing as hell. Watching all of this just makes me think “we’re doomed”
The videos of cops kneeling and taking the knee and joining the protests is the strangest thing I’ve ever seen. While one group of cops was cucking in the worst possible way, another groups of cops was literally slashing tires in the Kmart parking lot.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

The sight of the cops and national guard kneeling just makes me shudder. I’d rather die than take a knee.

Diversity Heretic
Member
4 years ago

Z-man’s suggestion is better than anything I can come up with. But I’m not sure it’s going to work; a lot of normies are just too far gone to be reached by normal methods of persuasion. Perhaps when the police are defunded and the rioters get to the “nice” section of town they’ll realize they slept too long.   [O]ut of the dream house stumbling One night into a stranging air and the flung Rags of children and thunder of stone niagras tumbling, You’ll know you slept too long. Newsreel by Cecil Day Lewis   Or, Experience is a dear… Read more »

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 years ago

Check out the poetry of Juvenal to really get a sense of what is happening to us today.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Good call! I have not read him before but highly relevant. Somebody recommended lovecraft’s The Cult of Cthulhu yesterday and I read that also. I like it when the comment section suggests reading material

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Whitney
4 years ago

If you liked Call of Cthulhu; I’d recommend “The Shadow over Innsmouth” and “At the Mountains of Madness” next. Both highly relevant to ‘our thing’ and great, creepy stories.
 
All of it is available free at hplovecraft.com

Whitney
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

I am going to read both. I am pretty selective about the fiction I read because I hate being emotionally manipulated but I do enjoy being creeped out!

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Nope. Nope. Nope.

 

There I was, reading “The Shining” on the porch. I was so engrossed, night had fallen.

 

All the house lights were off, only the porch light was on. The crickets and frogs were singing like mad. I got to the bathtub scene, her dead, wet hands reaching for his neck, and the crickets and frogs… stopped.

 

Pitch black. Total silence.

No light switch inside by the door.

I would have cross that room-

in the dark.

 

Too scared to move. To move outside that fragile cone of light, on the porch.

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Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 years ago

You can only redpill normie if normie has a strong enough emotional connection to you. Good friends, family, that’s it; otherwise, they’ll dismiss your opinion or forget it entirely.   My wife was dismissive of this whole thing, even though there were screaming blacks two blocks down from our house on Sunday. Not breaking anything; they were just screaming. She told me that they were doing no harm. I told her to imagine herself being pulled into a frothing crowd of feral blacks and beaten until she miscarried.   The blood ran away from her face. She didn’t bring it… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

FWIW, most states have breakdowns of demographics for their public school systems. It’s a round about way to find out things your realtor can’t tell you. Also a good proxy for how good the local schools are, because..well, unsayable reasons.
 
NYT (yes, I know) ran a great piece on “mapping segregation”. It’s a fantastic, zoomable map based on 2010 census data and color coded to give you a very good look at the entire country. I’m actually surprised it’s still up.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/08/us/census-race-map.html

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

yo, Dawg.
lay down the law.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 years ago

We won’t get a ‘told ya so’ moment.
 
It’s so late in the game, though, what I want is for them to suddenly remember us.

King Tut
King Tut
4 years ago

By the way, I hear that a whole bunch of British DR people (having been sh*tcanned by WokeTech) are now opening accounts with vKontakte – the Russian version of Facebook.
 
I confess that I have not looked into it but I will. It may have it’s own issues but I find it hard to believe that the Ruskies are having fainting spells over Trayvon.

Felix Krull
Member
4 years ago

OT: Excellent strategy-video from Ramzpaul, with a shoutout to Z-man.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LEhwiLiRJ8
 

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
4 years ago

I like this. The single most important argument, and fact (sometimes they do collide but not often) is that whites will become minority. Normie thinks he can afford to be ‘nice guy’ (as leftie defines it) b/c he still subconsciously ignores that his kind will be minority in his granddaughter’s generation. But removing that psychological shield of (false) safety, ie denial, can trigger a strong reaction. Some can’t handle it. Like Z said, you can’t save ’em all.

Barnard
Barnard
4 years ago

For a great example of normie thinking, read the comments at this Powerline post about a black woman in Washington D.C. calling out Black Lives Matter supporters. They are enraptured by her. One even says, “if we could get 15-20% of blacks thinking like this, the left would never win another election.”
 
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/blm-is-a-joke.php

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Barnard
4 years ago

Again, this is just another golem variant that is being pushed to keep whites docile and sleepy.

HamburgerToday
HamburgerToday
4 years ago

Good essay. You cannot sell something a person doesn’t want. But you can make them believe you have their best interests at heart when they are ready to buy. Then you’ll be their first choice. This is why it’s important to emphasize that racial separation is about love, not hate. Normies don’t like hate, but they’ve been taught that ‘love’ is the answer to everything. Also, the idea that we’re not talking about war, but a ‘racial divorce’ (as Greg Johnson puts it). This way of describing what WN stands for is more relatable.

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  HamburgerToday
4 years ago

Yes, they have been taught that “LOVE” is the answer. All you need is love and all that crap.
 
I have asked Joe Normie if he believes that God is Love. You always get back an “of course”. Well, the God of Love built a hell for people. Apparently “love” does not prevent punishment.

NJ Person
NJ Person
4 years ago

Z-Man’s comment about “never been a better time to sell dissident ideas to the normie” would be so true if facts governed thinking. I certainly hope he is right. But living in a deep blue area of the country has made me acutely aware of the social pressures to follow the new state religion. Right now the dissident right lacks a megaphone and institutional presence (at least around here). It seems that the current main priority would be to simply keep the flame alive and wait for the left to further overreach. As for persuading “normie”, perhaps citing polls such as that showing that 72%… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  NJ Person
4 years ago

I’m surprised at the results of the Monmouth poll. Last night on Tucker’s show, he pointed out that defunding the police is their plan to re-make the police force with cops sharing their idealogy. Another institution they will take over and one with guns.

Mark Auld
Mark Auld
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 years ago

Tucker has been right on about this since the riots started. I don’t believe any polls these days, even Fox has Biden ahead. They were so skewed in 2016, that I have to think it’s part of the psy OP.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  NJ Person
4 years ago

You don’t sell with facts. You sell with feelings. Z’s point is solid.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
4 years ago

How can we sell any of this with a straight face when everything looks like a live episode of “Lancelot Link, Secret Chimp”

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Felix Krull
Member
4 years ago

Racism is the pivotal issue here, the preference of your own kin to others. As long as Normie feels that is wrong, he will remain lost. Rather than snarky comments and coded messages, Normie must be told in clear language and in dead earnesty: “There’s nothing wrong with being a racist, it’s how we were all created.” Forget explaining about HBD or crime rates, tackle the core, moral condemnation head on. The apposite analogy is family: ask Normie if preferring your own family to the neighbor’s is morally reprehensible and if it entails hating the neighbor or wishing to kill… Read more »

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Yes. I have told people before that EVERYONE is racist because we all recognize those who are different. Why? Evolution. We evolved because nature or God or both wanted us to be able to recognize our own kind and those that were NOT our own kind.   If you don’t like that fact, take it up with God.   For generations on end we knew what a nation was. A nation is a community of people who share a common language, culture, values, traditions, ethnicity, descent, and history. That is what God was talking about when He told us he… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Felix,   Yeah, in my head, there is a constant battle between your reasoning and Z’s. I see both sides. As you say, this is a morality play. However, I just don’t know if Joe Normie is mentally ready for such a leap. Too much, too fast, and he won’t listen.   Whites in the states, at least, have literally been brought up on the evils of racism, well, white racism. We’ve been conditioned to view expression of white pride to be demonic.   You’re asking Joe Normie to make a mental leap the size of the Grand Canyon. He’s… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
4 years ago

Loved the analogy of the salesman walking into the Christian business dropping f bombs and wreaking of alcohol – you can just imagine the look of horror on the owner’s face. Same thing with n bombs, and they got to back to Africa. In all seriousness, this crap has been going on a long time, got much worse under obomba but has gone exponential during Trump’s years – it really is just breathtaking how bad things have gotten recently. One would hope that lots more people than obvious see this shit for what it is, but with the speech edicts… Read more »

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
4 years ago

seems like normie deserves whatever bad things come his way then. adding this guy to your movement/group is like adding oatmeal to concrete — you ain’t making the concrete stronger by doing so.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Karl McHungus
4 years ago

Its not really to add him too your group it’s so he doesn’t join your enemy…

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney