The Morality Of The Madhouse

In The Spirit of the Laws, Montesquieu outlined the motivations that drove citizen behavior in the three types of political systems known at the time. In republican forms of government, love of virtue is what motivates the people. In monarchies, it is the love of honor that motivates the actions of the people. In despotism, the people are motivated by fear of the ruler. He argued that the political system must match the inclinations of the people or it would not last.

Although Montesquieu did not address it, it certainly seems that these principles have a hierarchy of their own. Honor, for example, will give way to virtue, once the people begin to think they have a choice. Throughout history, monarchy has given way to democratic rule as the people abandoned honor in favor of virtue. Similarly, virtue has never been much of a match for fear as a motivator. Authoritarianism, the soft or hard variety, tends to overcome public virtue once the rulers realize it.

Montesquieu was working with the materiel at hand, so he could not contemplate the nature of liberal democracy. He knew of democracy, but only in the limited experiments among the ancients. Democracy on the grand scale as we see today was beyond the realm of plausible at the time. Similarly, liberalism was in its infancy. Liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law were purely theoretical concepts at the time, so he and other theorists had no working knowledge of them.

Almost three centuries on, we have a much better sense of what liberalism and democracy produce. For several generations now, the West has been ruled by the ideology of liberal democracy. Further, the West has worked hard to impose this moral philosophy on the rest of the world. Trillions have been spent, for example, trying to plant the seeds of liberal democracy in the Muslim world. South America has been forced to embrace the rituals and ceremonies of liberal democracy.

What we can now see that Montesquieu would not have been able to see is that something unique motivates the citizen in a liberal democracy.  There is no willingness to put the interests of the community ahead of private interests. There is no desire to attain greater rank and privilege. There is fear, but not of a ruler, but rather fear of falling afoul of the general will. The collective morality in a liberal democracy works like an invisible fickle tyrant that terrorizes the citizenry.

We see this in the current turmoil. The citizen is now suddenly faced with a whole new moral order, as if the ruling class all converted to some new church. People who are slow to pick up on the morality are shamed and harassed. You can lose your job for refusing to use the right pronouns, for example. Two members of the Supreme Court just converted and declared that the Founders were actually sodomites in dresses, therefore sodomites in dresses are sacred beings.

Just as fear of the tyrant is a more powerful motivation than a sense of sacrifice to the needs of the community, morality is a much more powerful motivator than virtue or even fear of a powerful individual. Look at Donald Trump. He is incompetent, for sure, but his office has real power. Yet, fear of falling afoul of the new morality leads the converted to risk everything to destroy him. The needs of the new morality are pushing the followers to bring the country crashing down to please the new gods.

Unlike the motivations behind monarchy, republicanism and tyranny, there is no structure to liberal democratic morality. There is no sacred text or body of philosophical work to provide authority. Like a school of fish, morality shifts on a dime and that new direction is assumed to be the general will and therefore the proper course. Morality in a liberal democracy is a riot with no real purpose, other than to feed the need of the people to feel they are the virtuous actor in the great drama of life.

Without a controlling doctrine, morality in a liberal democracy has no limiting principles to contain the excesses. Everything worth doing is worth overdoing. No matter how pious someone is, someone else can be more pious. Each new fad becomes a race to the absurd, which is how we quickly went from tolerance of homosexuals to declaring transvestites sacred beings. You can be sure the pedophiles and polygamists are getting ready for their elevation into the ring of honor.

It turns out that fear, virtue and honor are no match for morality in the great battle of organizing ideas. Honor is an individual characteristic. It is something you give yourself through your own decisions. Similarly, the virtue of the man willing to sacrifice for the good of the institution is largely an individual creation. It has a collective component, which makes it more powerful than honor, but it is still individualistic. Fear, of course, is about saving your own skin or that of your family.

Morality, in contrast, pivots on the collective sense of identity. The chants of “who we are” resonate because it implies a choice. You can be inside where it is good or outside where it is bad. In reality, it reminds the people that they have no choice. To stand against morality is to stand against destiny itself. Those who resist the new morality are first anathematized then invisibilized. Liberal democracy maintains an invisible gulag for those who refuse to bend the knee to the prevailing morality.

The defects in monarchy, democracy and despotism are well known. The next in line to the throne can be a lunatic or a simpleton. Democracy eventually murders itself. The tyrant eventually dies, leaving a battle for power. It seems that the defect of liberal democracy is that it has no way to control the fanatic. They are not just allowed to run free, but they are encouraged to fully explore their fanaticism. Liberal democracy eventually becomes a madhouse run by madmen.

Modern America has entered the madhouse phase of liberal democracy. Just how far along we are in the journey is unknown, but the journey has begun. Evidence of this is the wanton destruction of civil society. The pointlessness of it is the point. No one in power is willing to defend the institutions and customs that defined old America. No one in power is offering an alternative, other than more fear of the mob. The only questions now are the timing and terror of the eventual collapse.


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Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
17 days ago

“Honor is an individual characteristic. It is something you give yourself through your own decisions. Similarly, the virtue of the man willing to sacrifice for the good of the institution is largely an individual creation.” This explains why “virtue signaling” so perfectly defines what progressives do, and why the term pisses them off. It shows that what they’re doing is a performance with no real meaning or worth. If the old cliche about “character is what you do when no one’s watching” holds up, the progressive version would be, “Compassion is what you pretend to have when the person you… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Joey Jünger
17 days ago

Dead. Solid. Perfect. Find it ironic that the same ones leading the local virtue signaling mobs in my little burg are the same ones that the moment they are no longer childless abandon their previous vibrant neighborhoods in the city and decamp here. Or several years ago, when the poor, vibrant city next door wanted to develop an abandoned industrial area into shopping went batshit because the traffic would “destroy their quality of life”, mobbed town meetings, filed lawsuits. Same people are now taking knees and worshipping our new vibrant overlords. I will enjoy it when the mobs come for… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Joey Jünger
17 days ago

Agree that much virtue signalling and similar is just empty, feel-good theater. This is exactly what Jesus preached against in his teaching (I’m probably paraphrasing so don’t jump on me!): “Don’t do things publicly for praise by the crowd, as the Pharisees do. Praise is the only reward that they will get. Instead do good in secret and God who sees all things will reward you.” I won’t revisit my morality essay of a few days ago 🙂 but: I think the most important morality is the individual’s. Certainly approval of a group can be important; in many cases the… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

The words I remember from the KJV of that passage are “Whited Sepulchare” – could be wrong but I got to use it a few days ago on a posturing Lutheran.

Member
Reply to  Joey Jünger
17 days ago

I wish we could convince more of these people to go for the biggest hit of all and just kill themselves. It’s too bad most don’t have the guts and they manifest their longing for death by encouraging mobs to burn things. It’s a sort of “suicide by PoC” if you will.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
17 days ago

Well that was sobering.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  SidVic
17 days ago

And this is what I send to my kids–who are finally becoming as upset and fearful as they should be–so they may understand exactly what era they are living in and without all the illusions they were raised with. How many people ever know the era they are living in until it has gone by? It may be depressing but it is more than anything clarifying. This is a treasure of clarification.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  james wilson
17 days ago

well, i for one, am taking notes. Gotta know where to send the death squads when i take over and assume dictatorial powers. Oh how i long for the crowds chanting Viva el Sid. In minecraft, of course.

DorkCentral
DorkCentral
Reply to  SidVic
17 days ago

Sobering is listening to Donald Trump recently. I am Z’s age and have always voted when eligible.

I’m not going to vote. It kills me in a sense. That’s a good thing.

Trump is no less demented than Biden. I don’t believe it’s a cohenincidence, either. Sh_t.

Independant_George
Independant_George
Reply to  DorkCentral
17 days ago

Then you will deserve to lose your country.

Also, comparing Trump to biden in that way should disqualify you from commenting on anything based in reality as you are clearly woefully incapable.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
17 days ago

It’s gonna be fun when President Abrams sets up “Da Committee of Public Safety an Sheeeit”

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  MemeWarVet
17 days ago

Yeah, I think Robespierre had one of those too.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  SamlAdams
17 days ago

Who dat nigga? He importantz or some shits? What his album?

Tax Slave
Tax Slave
Reply to  Tykebomb
17 days ago

It kalled “Fuk Da Girondin!”

Marko
Marko
Reply to  MemeWarVet
17 days ago

No: The Department of Commerce will be renamed the Department of Skittles N Shieet

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Marko
17 days ago

Will be a separate “Dept. of Weed”

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  SamlAdams
17 days ago

Without “skittles and tea” (crack rock and weed), they’d have nothing to sell but their labor or their azz.

Member
Reply to  SamlAdams
17 days ago

There will need to be at least two Departments of Weed, one for Indica and the other for Sativa.

David Wright
Member
17 days ago

This is truly no country for old men.
Without even fear of a bullet or incarceration, men (or males) that I thought were like minded will bow, kneel, and apologize repeatedly.
Just reading comments on a news article today regarding masks, one is confronted with fact that the Karen phenomenon is not just for women anymore.
And Trump? Missing in action.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  David Wright
17 days ago

You are not going to vote your way out of what’s coming Dave. You know this. Nor is Trump going to come into your family and bitch slap some sense into Karen. That’s your job. Given that Karen is now protected by the state…good luck with that. She needs you now like a fish needs a bicycle. There is a reason that most mythologies have Karen in starring roles like that of Eve and Pandora. Guys like us are going to have to run down our women and joggers and put them back on the leash. It’s either that or… Read more »

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  David Wright
17 days ago

“And Trump? Missing in action.”
It’s a freaking miracle the guy’s still standing. I’ve never seen anything like it. Who else can you name that could endure the crap that man has had to put up with, and still walkout in front of the cameras every day, smiling and joking. He’s one tough old bird, I’ll give him that.
 

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Official Bologna Tester
17 days ago

Yes he has endured. To that I give him credit. Still, his bloviating constantly about what he will do, you know, I dare you to cross this line. Enough throw us a bone will ya?
Don’t say Seattle fix it or I will and do nothing. Maybe doing nothing is right, so why say it?
Yes Glen, I know voting our way out won’t work. We all know that. So I await orders. What should I do?

c matt
c matt
Reply to  David Wright
17 days ago

I agree with the “let it burn” attitude for areas that brought this upon themselves. As you say, if the strategy is let it burn, then tell them that is the strategy. This “man up or else I will” followed by nothing, makes Trump look impotent. Better to say nothing, or even better to say “you voted for this mess, you fix it. We’re not bailing you out.”

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  David Wright
17 days ago

Trump shouldn’t do anything about CHOP.
 
CHOP is a LARP intended to bait Trump into sending in the 1ID to level the place, thus proving himself to be the Orange Hitler the Left claims him to be.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
17 days ago

Boston Radio, Howie Carr-
A caller to Howie’s Chump Line, in a perfect JFK voice, intoned:
 
“Ask not,
What CHAZ can do for you…
 
Ask what,
You can do for CHAZ”

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  David Wright
17 days ago

His throwing around empty threats is very frustrating. Not only do they not take empty threats seriously, but the threats used to get my hopes up.

Tax Slave
Tax Slave
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

No, they actually force his target to clarify their position.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  David Wright
17 days ago

Trump will shoot his face off, but he will put a crisis to good use too. The blue city states are getting what they voted for, good and hard. They are literally burned out smoldering shit holes. Whitey is packing up and moving out. All these corps that are so sympathetic to BLM are pulling up stakes and quietly doing the same. Contrary to us – Trump has nothing to lose by sitting on his hands and watching Seattle burn. Even Leftie can’t argue about who is responsible for it, and Normie is starting to flirt with the red pill.… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Glenfilthie
17 days ago

This kind of slow strategy is frustrating to our side but it makes sense when most of the people on your side both nominally and actually are wobbling between cowardly and risk adverse.
 
 

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  abprosper
17 days ago

yeah, sort of like my experience in the market. Too late, I learned what “trailing stop loss” is 🙁 It got me out of one trade with a $100 loss, but an earlier one is down about 50 times that 😀 Unlike politics, nobody’s fault but mine in the market.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

There are no markets. There are those who are prewarned of the Feds actions and the suckers.

Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
17 days ago

It is extremely frustrating to watch Trump make what seem like idle threats but I tend to think that, mathematically his “let it burn” strategy does make sense. Consider two possible strategies here:   The Iron Fist: Trump invokes the Insurrection Act and sends in Federal Troops, CHAZ or CHOP or whatever it’s called now is crushed, order is restored by force. Results: By November, liberal whites have forgotten that it was THEIR OWN lefty mayors and governors who first destroyed their economy with lockdowns and then let their cities burn. Additionally the media has installed a new narrative –… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  pozymandias
17 days ago

Well said. I’d vote for “Let it burn” too. Win, win. Trump could even pick up some of the Libertarian vote* by saying, correctly, that the Federal government should not interfere in the affairs of State or Local governments 😀
*Maybe even all 0.1% of it 🙂

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

Yeah, but the non-interference in State responsibilities has already been blow with his EO’s and Congressional Bills designed to rein in local law enforcement (really pander to the joggers)—ban choke holds, create data base for bad cops, restrict/strip immunity, standardized police training and certify such at the Federal level, etc.

This action is nothing less than an usurpation of a Constitutional power reserved to the States. If it passes, it will be as drastic a blow to States’ Rights as when the Fed’s took over the State militias, now know as National Guard. Trump’s action is neither libertarian nor conservative.

onezeno
Reply to  Glenfilthie
16 days ago

Yes, what Trump is doing is perfect, whether he moronically stumbled into it or is shrewdly playing his weak hand as strongly as possible. I think his history shows it’s the latter, but if it’s the former then just as well.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Official Bologna Tester
17 days ago

I totally agree with all that, but also agree with David that his constantly threatening to do this or that and never following through just makes one want to scream “do it godammit!!” Hell, he met with the families of all the recently terminated negros yesterday and went on and on about what wonderful and loving people they were. Unfortunately, as many have stated, he’s not gonna save or change anything.

Dinothedoxie@gmail.com
Dinothedoxie@gmail.com
Reply to  usNthem
17 days ago

Sure he is.
 
Just not by direct action – which would probably backfire if he tried.
 
Instead, he’s getting his enemies to expose themselves and pissing off normy in the process.
 
Thats building a base for future direct action – that will take a long time to reach fruition. And truthfully may not anyway. But the reality is that if it fails – there was no hope anyway.
 
A lot of people on the D-Right long for going down in a blaze of glory soon – over a long hard slog to victory.

tremain
tremain
Reply to  Dinothedoxie@gmail.com
17 days ago

Keep telling yourself that when Trump signs the next prison reform act to let even more black criminals out of Jail. Or has the next meeting with black leaders. Or the next record black whatever..
He is fucking you over big time and you can’t see it.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  tremain
17 days ago

This

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  usNthem
17 days ago

I was once told by an elder that I highly respected (perhaps it’s old saying): “Never make a threat you aren’t prepared to carry out.” Guess Trump is not one for such advice?

tremain
tremain
Reply to  Official Bologna Tester
17 days ago

Have you not seen pro wrestling?

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  tremain
17 days ago

“Have you not seen pro wrestling?”

See my post below.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  David Wright
17 days ago

That was an odd movie. The hit man’s weapon was too exotic to be serviceable. Practical lesson: if you ever find a large sum of money, as soon as possible transfer the money into a dfferent container that doesn’t have a radio tracking device in it. And don’t bring water to the dying 🙂

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

Also: if asked to call a coin flip, finding out the reason behind said flip is strongly recommended

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

The old are stunned, dumfounded by the new, thus the title. The non-traditional new ways of doing things have a paralyzing effect on the old. The old men in the novel don’t understand the new world that is being created. Thus the choice of weapon used by the killer is symbolic of the book as a whole. Just as the Antifa/BLM axis leaves most frozen in place as to how to handle this new apparition rearing its head. The melanin-worshippers must experience some vague fear of unattainment at the same time hoping that somehow their current expiation will be the… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  David Wright
17 days ago

“Karen” is an anti-white slur designed to humiliate and denigrate normal white women. Nobody on the right, let alone our side of the right should be using it.
It is so nakedly anti-white. I really don’t understand why I see so many conservatives using it and even a lot of people on our side of the divide. The women being slurred with it are all white and most of them are normal. Example, that woman in Central Park. She had EVERY RIGHT to be fearful with that young black guy.
This anti-white slur is disgusting.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

Gotta disagree with you there.
 
”Karen” describes a female unhinged from traditional White power structures, serving as a prison guard in the Tiny Hat’s brave new world.
 
It’s useful and encourages noticing.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  MemeWarVet
17 days ago

The “Karen” thing started when a white woman called the police on a bunch of blacks ignoring the law and barbecuing in a park that had rules against barbecuing with an open flame. But rules don’t apply to blacks. Another early “Karen” was a woman refusing to admit a black man following into her apartment building despite the rules and signs saying you weren’t allowed to do it. Woman lost her job and was kicked out of the apartment complex.
These were fairly normal white women trying to follow the rules. Civilization requires we follow the rules.

Skeptic16
Skeptic16
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

That was a “Becky”.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

When can we start booting out the primates who don’t (or can’t) follow the rules? Every minute we let them stay, civilization deteriorates 🙁
 

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

Agree. However like so much language it has been co-opted and perverted by the left- one call use the word liberal with its original meaning and let’s not get started on the sodomites.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

I agree that “Karen” is an anti-white slur and although I am pro-white, I have mixed feelings about it.
 
Let’s acknowledge that there are few people more irritating than liberal white women. Take my sister for example, please!
 
Liberal white women need to realize that all of their earnest virtue signaling is not going to save them from being torn apart by the Judeo-Brown mob.
 
Finally, we have to bring white women back to our side, if whites are going to continue to exist. Fortunately, white women are the most easy humans to mold.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  LineInTheSand
17 days ago

“Karen” isn’t targeting liberal women. It is targeting normal white women. Why should a woman alone in a park have to defer to some young buck’s antics? This is disgusting. While she was probably a liberal woman, most of the “Karens” have been normal white women.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

You really need to detach yourself from VoxDay, the white knighting miasma from that place has completely clouded your mind. ‘Karen’ by & large are -not- normal white women. They are entitled lefty cunts with ‘I need to see your manager’ hair, problem glasses, etc.
You reek of supplicating beta, don’t go there man. Just because VD is an ultra white knight out to slay the ‘incel gamma’ don’t go full retard along w/ him. Liberal white women need to be grinded into dust since they are one of the main cogs in this wheel of degeneracy.

DudeVegas
DudeVegas
Reply to  Apex Predator
17 days ago

+1
Spot on. Females who are not under domination by a strong male naturally become Karens commencing from birth. A barren womb at 30 and its Karen permanency.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Apex Predator
17 days ago

ProZNoV approves of this advice.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Apex Predator
17 days ago

What does any of this have to do with VD? I don’t recall him taking this side on “Karens”
Maybe I am just hearing different Karens than you are. The last one I heard was a white woman who questioned someone making a giant black lives matter sign outside of her house next door. Most of them have been about not deferring to random black people.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

yeah the TRS and fash guys were the ones whiteknighting about karen.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  SidVic
17 days ago

Yeah, they’ve gotten really inconsistent with their narratives.

theRussians
theRussians
Member
Reply to  Apex Predator
17 days ago

I was going to just let this thread slide but hi-5 brother.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

Just because once in a while a slur is misused doesn’t negate its the truth is most cases.
No doubt jogger or whatever else has been misapplied too, there are still a lot of joggers.
 
 

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

Why should a woman alone in a park have to defer to some young buck’s antics? This is disgusting.

Fully agree, but why should you care? It’s not your job to protect them. Even in a more sane society with far more cemented, traditional gender norms it still wouldn’t be your job to do so.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  LineInTheSand
17 days ago

Now you tell me. At age 58, a lot of opportunities are long gone 🙂 But on the upside, I’ve never had to pay alimony or child support, and no kids wanting to possibly move back into the house, bringing apalling lifestyle choices with them 😀

miforest
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

it’s never too late , and money isn’t every thing

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

It is ! If I were to guess, it’s a slur that was made up by non-White customer service people, who don’t provide proper service .
 

tremain
tremain
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

they are not white they are golems. They may look like they are inhabiting white bodies. But they are have been replaced by a semi-autonomous part of the collective.
 

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tremain
17 days ago

Slightly off topic, but if you like horror/detective novels, consider Bari Wood’s 1981 novel The Tribe. This is where I first heard of a “golem.” Without giving too much away, there is a tight-knit group of aged Jews in NYC. Some odd things start happening. Investigator finds out the men had been in a Nazi concentration camp where, somehow, they’d been kindly treated, unreasonably well so 😀 given the scarcity and privations of the war’s final months. Jumps ahead to present day (1980) NYC, their group is being assaulted by thugs. So they conjure their ancient protector…
 
 

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

“Karen” is an anti-white slur designed to humiliate and denigrate normal white women.
 
Absolutely. And thank God. It’s about time white women started to catch some shi$. I want to promote every anti-white slur that I can. I want white women and liberal white men to know that they won’t escape the tribunals. They don’t get a free pass. They won’t be accepted as fellow victims of white oppression.
 
Many, many of our fellow whites need to big slap across the face to wake up and this is one of those.
 

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
17 days ago

I suppose if you are an accelerationist, this makes perfect sense.
I kind of agree that all white people need to be made to understand that “white people” and “whiteness” means you. That there are no exceptions. There are not “good” and “bad” whites, that there are only “whites”

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

Not at all true. Goodwhites are more of a threat than non Whites are by any measure.
As real as race is, this is not a race war , it a culture war between the Elites who are uniformly Globalist Left and the Nationalists.
Non Whites while they have agency, sure but are political pawns of the Elites
And note those Elites are for the moment uniformly White (including Jews and some White Hispanics in that category)
Its White on White

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  abprosper
17 days ago

That is not the context in which I meant it. I meant that you cannot take off your white skin. That if the killing started, being a “good white” doesn’t help.
 
Just yesterday or the day before some 92yo white woman was punched in the face by a young black male for absolutely no reason. Why does he hate white people so much that he just punched a random 92 year old woman in the face? That is the context in which I meant it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmN8IXgL58g

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

Yes, saw the video on Yahoo this morning. “The Knockout Game.” Colin Flaherty wrote a book about it, that title I think. Just over a year ago, the same thing happened at a fair in Frederick MD, killing a 50-ish white man. Also caught on phone video.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

Your skin color is your uniform is very true. That said we have no place for at least the true believers among the the Good Whites either. They are counting on us to save them at the last and they don’t deserve it. We can have more children to replace them and don’t need people with a genetic tendency to Leftism in pour polity even if we share a skin color. When it comes to politics blood will tell. My attitude is that of the madman Rorschach from the Watchman par phrasing a bit This city and its people are… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

Agree with the dissenters. Of any large group, even our hypothetical united whites, there will be the normal variations. This is equally true of all large groups of humans.Judged by any valid standard (not one that is made of rubber and twisted to suit the needs of the moment), there will always be some who are above average, most in the middle, and some of low quality. Our race may be blessed with a better IQ bell curve than most, but a moral Bell curve would still have many losers on the left side who are as much of a… Read more »

David Wright
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

Ok, I will give you Gretchen Whitmer. This no enemies to my white makes no sense. The people who are destroying our country while using blacks are white. The liberal scolds are white women also.
slur?my ass.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  David Wright
17 days ago

This, and Whiskey’s take on Karens and AWFLs are correct.
 
Liberal, goodwhite women hate white men and want us dead. This goes triple for blue-collar, working class white men.
 
They are just fine competing to be Raz Simone’s next pincushion of the week.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  David Wright
17 days ago

“No enemies to my white” makes as much sense as “no enemies to my right.”
 
The later gave us Christopher Cantwell and Matt Heimbach.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  tarstarkas
17 days ago

Women on our side , hell all White women have an obligation to not be a bunch of entitled bitches. What they need to be is a decent human being, a wife and a mother and yes its in our culture, themselves too. Hell be brave. Its in our women. The ones that act like little Stazi snitches or call the cops over bull crap deserve all the hate. And for the record, this isn’t new. When I was a young teen in Arizona , one of these little shits called the cops on me for my complexly legal fake… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  abprosper
17 days ago

I too was a rebellious teen, although my violations didn’t run to weapons. In defense of the law, you’d be amazed, or dismayed, how many people (usually young men) who have been killed because they had a replica gun. In fact, people can be (and have been) convicted of armed robbery with a fake gun. Ideally there’d be better education for teens, but yeah, largely wasted effort, even with the white ones 🙂

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

Common sense and common law indicates that we go easy on the young dumb teens when the actions aren’t extremely serious.
We fail to do this because our society is dysfunctional and because we have trouble admiring that different groups have different maturation rates and different intents.
A fix though requires an authoritarian Right regime that will make sure that there are stable jobs and stable families and probably a rational moral teaching at every level.
Not easy.

onezeno
Reply to  tarstarkas
16 days ago

Yes, but by being anti-white it gives us cover to attack the unhinged white women and have it leave a mark. Why not fight fire with fire? We aren’t using their term, we’re abusing to our own benefit.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  David Wright
17 days ago

I never grasped that concept, no country for old men, until recently.
 
I sit around looking at the place around me and realize this is not a place where I can get old in. It just isn’t. It’s not safe, I always have to be on guard, etc.
 
I will have to live with it I guess. Although it is not what I envisioned as a young man. I imagined getting old in a place much nicer.
 
Oh well. That’s life.
 
Like that old INXS song, all those years of learning, just to learn again.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Falcone
17 days ago

Maybe the wilfully ignorant are onto something 🙂

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  David Wright
17 days ago

Donald the Trump has been particularly uninspiring lately. Words are his kind of action. In his term so far he has pretty much limited himself to his own brand of conservative virtue signaling, while doing nothing to enable it. Remember his declaration about ending birthright citizenship? A lollipop for his followers. If any such plan exists, it’s on the highest shelf in the attic.   As Israel’s ambassador to the United States, Rabbi Trump has recruited Rabbi Kushner as the power in front of the throne while he blisses out on what he likes best, speaking at rallies.   I’ll… Read more »

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
Reply to  Gravity Denier
17 days ago

I shudder to think, Gravity, that when those last words were spoken (“If you have tears…”), Rome had already endured four years of civil war, and would shortly embark on 13 more.
 
it reminds me that a commenter on Sailer recently compared Crassus, Pompey, and Caesar to Trump, Pompeo, and Kushner. He did not identify this generation’s Antony, though.

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  ChrisZ
17 days ago

I shudder to think, Gravity, that when those last words were spoken (“If you have tears…”), Rome had already endured four years of civil war, and would shortly embark on 13 more.

Exactly, that’s what I was implying that we are looking at. Maybe not 13 years — things move faster these days — but in principle the same.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  David Wright
17 days ago

Or White cops in black run america. I see the cop in the apelanta shooting of the hard working, family jogger has been charged with 11 counts including felony murder and is being held without bail. They have no chance in a majority or even large minority city in this so called country. There’s absolutely no upside in confronting a jogger and unlimited downside including loss of life, loss of freedom, loss of career, loss of future prospects. If at all possible, walk away – as soon as possible….

theRussians
theRussians
Member
Reply to  David Wright
17 days ago

Knowledge that we are on our own… Is useful

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
17 days ago

I think that Donald Trump is going to win the next election in a landslide. The people that hate him now are going to be absolutely horrified by who comes next.
Pull back. Looking at the big picture, the liberals are starting to eat each other.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Glenfilthie
17 days ago

The Common Sense Calvary ain’t coming.
 
Its too busy posting on Breitbart about how not racist it is.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
17 days ago

Correct. Trump & Co. IS the Common Sense Cavalry, and they’ve been pinned down and outflanked by the deep state. I dunno about you, but this lunacy is not invoking any fearful or honourable or virtuous feelings in me. All I got now is a quiet, cold fury and a murderous rage against the people responsible.
A blitzkrieg is coming. Necks will be stretched, people will be purged and genocides will be in the offing.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Glenfilthie
17 days ago

There will be plenty of opportunity for payback when the Reign of Terror has passed. Until then, look out.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  MemeWarVet
17 days ago

Exactly Meme. This may pass like other crazes that have swept society before.. or it may not (at least in the blue hives). But if you are in a smaller burg or town, keep lists. If this subsides or turns into societal breakdown, punish those that participated in this. Ruin, besmirch, undermine, tar, and hinder them in all ways possible. If this eventually passes they should be encouraged to excise themselves from Our communities. If it does not, they will only become a fifth column weeping sore amongst you. They are wicked and deserve no rest or joy outside of… Read more »

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
Reply to  Penitent Man
17 days ago

I think (hope?) you speak for a lot of people, Penitent.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Glenfilthie
17 days ago

Plan-Trusting, seriously? Next you’ll be going on about how Q is going to save the day.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  BadThinker
17 days ago

I am merely stating the obvious. Things can’t keep going like this. Something is going to give. When it does… most of the people who are good at fighting will be on our side. Leftie is burning his own cities down. For him to continue, he is going to need massive infusions of other people’s money. The next civil war is not going to look like the last one.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Glenfilthie
17 days ago

We all know that this summer’s riots and occupied zones are just a small preview of what will happen if Trump gets re-elected. My only real hope at this point is that that may become the turning point.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Glenfilthie
17 days ago

So it’s not just me.
 
I’ve found a deep inner well of rage that just seems to not want to go away.
I keep having visions of doing really bad things to people who want to do violence to me and/or my family.
I keep wondering where my compatriots are though. Good to hear that I’m not the only one.
 

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Calsdad
17 days ago

I’m thinking howitzers vs. hyenas

DudeVegas
DudeVegas
Reply to  Calsdad
17 days ago

Compatriot here. Just not a lone wolf unless I’m on the defense. And I look forward to offense.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Calsdad
17 days ago

There are a lot of us.
This mindset wins wars like the ones we are facing but since t we loathe chaos and have yet to agree upon a working order that is worth the risk and cost , we wait.
 
 
 
 

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Glenfilthie
17 days ago

WORD Glen.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  MemeWarVet
17 days ago

Yes, even Mozilla (Firefox) has the little banner now about “Black lives matter. Black voices matter. It’s about time we listened.” The Poz is everywhere. I can’t (easily) resign from Firefox as I like the browser. I’ll see if there is somewhere I can send an email of disapproval 😠

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

Firefox was converged years ago and its founder forced out. Use Brave.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  3g4me
17 days ago

Second that. Use Brave.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Jim Smith
17 days ago

I’ll third that. Brave, ever since Firefox went full converged. Same product, but better.

tremain
tremain
Reply to  ProZNoV
17 days ago

I suggest you look somewhere else. Brave has signed deals for promoted content with big tech.

onezeno
Reply to  ProZNoV
16 days ago

Brave is built off Chromium

H I
H I
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

Try Brave.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

I listened, to the white man’s principle of looking at what a man does, not what he says. Then I listened to Black Crimes Matter and applied the priciple.

Owen Glendower
Owen Glendower
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

Gab has a browser now. Haven’t tried it though.

tremain
tremain
Reply to  MemeWarVet
17 days ago

Conservatives are like the suicidal charge at the end of the life of brian.
As they crest the hill and you think they are going to engage the enemy. They immediately top themselves.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
17 days ago

Don’t legitimize a system that is out to destroy you. Get involved in local groups and politics if feasible. If you’re in a vibrant area do whatever you need to do to get out. If you have to take a pay cut and give up some economic security consider it self-preservation. Things are going to get even worse. If you don’t get out now will you even have a choice to do so in the future? A nice home and a good job in a place run by enemies and animals who want you at least gone if not dead.… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Yves Vannes
17 days ago

Too many old people, at least where I’m at. The immediate concerns and survivability of the community will always lose out to getting a more comfortable old-folks shuttle bus.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Yves Vannes
17 days ago

Yes Yves. Yes. This. I’ve already come to the conclusion Ours dont get to have cities, at least not in the foreseeable future. Even as we gather into communities, the unwelcome mat must be laid out for any noticable number of others that will inevitably be drawn to Our productivity and success. Castigation for those of Our tribe that start the stirrings of the same old social justice lies. Dont know if it is possible but it is the only way I think.

PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
Reply to  Penitent Man
17 days ago

Castigation?? A goodly length of stout, hempen role??

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  PrimiPilus
17 days ago

You say tomato I say tomahto

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Penitent Man
17 days ago

“Give them a taste of a world without YT.”

Yes, yes, this.

I am sick to death of the hucksters, tools, and beaming idiots declaiming,

“Why are we here? God sent us angel guides named Floyd to teach all his children how to luuurv one another!”

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Penitent Man
17 days ago

Just imagine the joyous miscreants in the past who said somehting like: “He said he was gonna castigate me! But he just whip me and forgot to cut off my dick!” 😀

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Yves Vannes
17 days ago

If the last four months have taught anyone anything, it should be that the system is your enemy.   There are a few holdouts still on our side, but they have no power. Good cops etc… would best serve Whites by turning in their shields & joining our communities outside this system. Servicemen too.   Uniquely-positioned monkey-wrenchers aside, that is. There’s a role for that but those will be outliers.   Jews are not going to let White interests be discussed, much less advanced, in politics on a state or national level.   We have to plan to first survive… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Exile
17 days ago

Be sure to avoid the outward appearance of living “well” in our communities. This draws in what I call the “wine and cheese” people, who aspire to live well but bring in all the goodthinking that accompanies it. Ideal is a balance of good community bones but a scruffy and slightly downscale exterior appearance.

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Dutch
17 days ago

This community is called rednecks. No wine and cheese there. There’s a reason they are the only ones you are officially allowed to make fun of: they are a model of a white society.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  The Right Doctor
17 days ago

Wine is tolerated if it’s in a box. Cheese is OK if it is Velveeta or plastic-wrapped cheese slices.

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Dutch
17 days ago

I’m with you, Dutch. I never liked suits as much as blue jeans and boots, which is why I don’t miss trial work as I get older. You’d be amazed at the disdain I garner for driving an old Chevy pickup instead of some upscale sedan. Wine and cheesers judge by appearance; but the only way to really know a man is by his deeds and not by his look. Words may sound fine yet be entirely empty. It’s why the rise of social media and the preoccupation with “optics” are ultimately dissatisfying. Real community is like a good stew,… Read more »

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Dutch
17 days ago

There is nothing wrong with wine, cheese, and guns. They go well together. Civilization with teeth.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Dutch
16 days ago

Very true. Guess who follows the money.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Yves Vannes
17 days ago

The lone wolf needs encouragement too. Remember Mr. Tarrant, the Aussie who killed quite a few in New Zealand a year or two back? I don’t condone his actions, but if you read his manifesto, he had a lot of crazy shit, but also some very practical advice along the lines of : “Work your way into the system, ina place where you may have future influence.” Especially based on his MO, I don’t think he had community organizing in mind 😀 Joining any group entails risks, all the more so if/when certain activities become illegal or even suspect. Even… Read more »

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

The paranoid are useless. They’re hiding in a basement with their internet turned off.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Glenfilthie
17 days ago

Even if Trump manages to overcome balls to the wall mail fraud we can plan on enormous race riots and Leftist attempts to gin up CW2.
 
Hell, the CHOP is a trial run for further Leftist secession.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
17 days ago

I’m not too worried about it Howard. Consider our opponents: they are so dumb that they burn their own cities, and have even knocked down their own civil war monuments. They are already begging for food in the CHAZ, and that cunned stunt of a mayor in Seattle has had her house vandalized by her own freedom fighters.
i personally am convinced that this will end in violence… but it “should” be settled fairly quickly.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Glenfilthie
17 days ago

You’re right Glen. Meme and the rest of the naysayers don’t get Trump at all. He’s biding his time right now while making it clear exactly where he stands. Excellent strategy. He will win in a landslide and the ensuing four years will answer the question posed by Zman. It will be up to Trump. Fingers crossed.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Jim Smith
17 days ago

Oh, and by the way, the climax of the current Fourth Turning is forecasted to hit around 2025. Fits right in to the timeline.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jim Smith
17 days ago

Agree with both Glen and Jim, thank the heavens we don’t have a Trudeau l or ll. God save Canada and the Commonwealth.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Jim Smith
17 days ago

The Audacity of Cope

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Exile
16 days ago

Amen on that Brother they do it out of desperation or just because they don’t want to put any effort into securing their own future…

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Glenfilthie
17 days ago

What difference does it make? Trump hasn’t accomplished anything. Not even an improvement to the balance of power in the courts.
 
Wasn’t Gorsuch Trump’s pick? Wasn’t he supposed to bring sanity back to the Supreme Court? I heard many people say, “Well, we don’t have a wall, the swamp has not been drained, but at least we are getting back the courts.” Yeah, right… All that’s left is the joy of triggering the libs.
 

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Hun
17 days ago

Anyone who downvoted Hun’s post: explain why he’s wrong

Skeptic16
Skeptic16
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
17 days ago

He’s shattering the illusions of the Trumptards.

DudeVegas
DudeVegas
Reply to  Hun
17 days ago

I tend to agree. Cf. Brett Kavanaugh. For example, it’s possible “converged” Gorsuch punted on the spate of 2A cases because he and the like-minded believe they can strike for a better position once Ginsburg slides down the fast chute to Hell. Then again Gorsuch is Episcopal so ….

tremain
tremain
Reply to  DudeVegas
17 days ago

They just take turns to play the cuck so it looks like they are occasionally conservative. Jeez can’t you people see its a 3 card monty?

Basil Ransom
Basil Ransom
17 days ago

Morality, collective morality, is imposed by sanction either socially or from on high. It requires access to power and the levers of power. The intense jockeying going on right now between the factions of the left is the ultimate effort to harness Democrat party machinery and grab a hold of the power ring that is FedGov. At that point, corporate power and Fed power will be in lockstep. The republicans will do nothing to stop the advance.   Hope lies in the sheer incompetence of these people. At some point, people stop listening. After all, the Soviets were the big… Read more »

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Basil Ransom
17 days ago

There is another hope: and this is that what we might be seeing , are the death throes of a dying system. I posted this yesterday , but it’s worth posting again because it’s relevant to your post. Martin Armstrong is of the opinion that what is happening is that socialism is dying. It is (like Thatcher said) – running out of other people’s money. In that context – the screams of “Black Lives Matter!!” – have more of pleading quality to them. Especially if you take into account some of the info I’ve seen on how much the typical… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Calsdad
17 days ago

One could make the argument that we are in the midst of the dying of the final boss of the Progressive project. I wish it were so.
One important element of what is going on is that there is no concrete end game for them; there are no tangible goals. This is simply a nihilistic exercise in destruction and elimination of everything in sight. As such, there is no rational response to such an irrational ask, other than to deny it and resist it in total and everyday.

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Dutch
17 days ago

 
But there is a goal. If someone, or say a well organized gang, gained by fraud, would it make sense for them, to get rid of the people who know about that larceny, who could possible call them to account ?
 
I think there is a movie there – I’d call it “The Dark Syndicate“. 
 
 

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Calsdad
17 days ago

That is the wildcard: the end of the current economic order. It would be happening even under the best of circumstances, which this isn’t.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Basil Ransom
17 days ago

Morality, like history, is written by the victors.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Basil Ransom
17 days ago

After all, the Soviets were the big bad boogeymen until over the course of a week, they suddenly weren’t and the whole thing folded up shop…

 
It took them 70 years to go from fanatical revolutionaries to apathetic incompetents.

Basil Ransom
Basil Ransom
Reply to  Hun
17 days ago

Yes and I’d say our current ruling arrangement, set up by FDR, codified by Truman, is also starting to look mighty long in the tooth as the current kommisars toddle away in their dotage… as you point out, it takes about 70 years…

tremain
tremain
Reply to  Hun
17 days ago

The fanatics just moved on to the Europe/US. the rest were just playing in the system until they got bored.

Jeff Kentwood
Jeff Kentwood
17 days ago

I think you guys forget that this movement (or whatever you want to call it) is MASSIVELY popular. Most white people under 50 that I know are openly talking about white privilege and ending white supremacy. They support taking down racist iconography.   I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. People I know are already talking about abolishing private schools and banning firearms. Most people want hate speech laws and feel that the media needs more gatekeeping power.   I don’t have any opinion on the matter but from an outsiders perspective it seems to me that… Read more »

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Jeff Kentwood
17 days ago

As I’ve posted the last couple of days, most Whites have already had the moment of racial clarity and have actively elected suicidal cuckery.
 
See previous day’s posts about Cthulhu and R’ylheh

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jeff Kentwood
17 days ago

Probably depends on who your circle of friends are. Things like banning school alternatives usually seem quite the imperative to the childless, or die hard ideologue. But to those with children, they suddenly seem to prefer the best education to the alternative—sacrifice of their progeny on the alter of pathological egalitarianism. Not sure the riots over school busing in Boston were by conservative Rep’s.   Firearms are similar in that you have no need for them until you have a need for them. Then you line up with everyone else to buy out the local gun shop. Here, for example,… Read more »

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Jeff Kentwood
17 days ago

What is the proportion of true believers vs Havel’s greengrocers?

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
17 days ago

The phase that we are going through right now is sad and dangerous, but necessary. Normies have to realize that the old America is dead before we can start to build something new. This is very hard, because it’s patriotism and loyalty that keep the normies trying, and these are genuine virtues not to be discouraged by any movement of the Right. But just as loyalty to your parents does not include stuffing their dead bodies and pretending that they are alive, loyalty to country does not include pretending that we’re still living in the United States.   The battle… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Altitude Zero
17 days ago

This new front in the race wars is useful. The capitulation of CivNat types changes the game. In just two weeks, CivNats have gone from “I don’t see color” and “we’re all just Americans” to “racism and systemic injustice are real and we whites need to listen to the black community.”   The center has broken. There is no resistance to a full assault on whites.   Now that CivNats have admitted their guilt (whether they believe it or not, they’re saying it publicly), Progressives and non-whites will demand more action, more groveling by whites to atone for their sin… Read more »

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
17 days ago

Agreed, some whites will collaborate, but once they see that there is no way out, that collaboration will not save them, that, as Anti-Gnostic once said “You skin is your uniform in this war”, they will start to come over. As for what Mr. Kentwood said, I wouldn’t put too much stock in what people are saying right now, 90% of this is just cheap virtue signalling, with no cost – yet. When the Vibrancy starts burning their McMansions, we’ll see.

tremain
tremain
Reply to  Altitude Zero
17 days ago

You are delusional. I was out walking today and some father was was walking his toddler. He was playing loud gangsta rap on his phone while pushing a buggie and asking his 3 year old if he liked biggie smalls.
They have already chosen suicide.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Altitude Zero
17 days ago

I hope you guys are right, that a revolution might turn back the clock. But sadly the demographics are against us. Over a period of many decades, I think we (and other countries) will see the gradual waning of perceived white power structures. I don’t know about signing pledges, but certaily a continued erosion of gun rights, school and property choices, etc. Us whites, or even going back 2-3 generations, have had a hand in this. We “lost” the right to segregate our neighborhoods and schools in the late 1940s, 1950s. The 1964 Civil Rights Act chipped away what little… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

Good essay. One takeaway is: no one type of political system endures for long. Monarchy becomes tyranny, leading to revolution. Perhaps a different despot replaces the old. Sometimes a republic is born. History provides interest exceptions. Spain is odd. Most recently, a mellowing dictator (Franco) peacefully handed rule over to a democracy. Spain has a long history of liberal-consersative-democracy-dictator; its ex-colonies have remarkably similar stories. Maybe they’re not typical. But one style of rule never lasts more than a few centuries. This is even to be expected; change is constant and unavoidable. Many things are cyclical. With governments and societies,… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

trump won because he was not part of the single donor led globalist billioner owned party. That is why he is completly isolated and never supported by the GOP establishment.

Skeptic16
Skeptic16
Member
Reply to  miforest
17 days ago

Oh, come on! Sheldon Adelson was one of his biggest donors.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  miforest
17 days ago

He won because he was rude and crude. Not the pol we were used to and that differed him from all others. He gleaned the “protest” vote of people who were tired of the same old shit. Seems to me he has a chance if that image remains through the next election. Certainly, the chaos expanding plays into that—as long as he is not considered the cause.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

The thing that jumps out to me about America is how different we all are, and yet cohesive. The colonies were very different, yet they stuck together and overcame an empire. The young republic tore itself apart in civil war and yet the nation survived and grew.   This time it’s different, because the people are different, but we’ve overcome long odds before. It’s what we do, and having the big break up and reformation seems to be how we settle these things as Americans.   The script does call for a future Napoleon, but that’s all it is— a… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Paintersforms
17 days ago

Disagree on the cohesive part. Big cities hate rural areas, anyone who has religion is considered a moron, and frankly, everyone under 30 has been taught for 18 years to HATE this country.
 
I’d love to see a peaceful split off.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  ProZNoV
17 days ago

I kind of disagree too, but we’re still here. It’s always been a tenuous union, yet we stick together for whatever reason, so it must not be as tenuous as it appears.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

probably the major cycles are decades and centurys in duration.
 
That may have been true for most of history, but these cycles are tied to the speed of information and movement (of both goods and people), which has increased exponentially.

sam the man
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

You say that the country will split into many parts. You see it already in incipient form. Sanctuary cities and states dont honor federal law, after Virginia gun laws some counties don’t honor state law, and in Seattle a private group chased away police and patrol their own territory with guns.This is only a beginning.Civil war didn’t start in Fort Sumter in 1861 . It started in Kansas in 1856. 200 people died over there over the issue of slavery.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  sam the man
17 days ago

I’ve posited this before, but if we had a “Civil War II”, and using the new casualty estimate for the First 🙁 Civil War, and scaling to today’s population, we are looking at 6 million dead. If it occurs, broadly speaking, the issues will be much the same: Federal vs. State (or individual) control, freedoms infringed. Also the treatment of Blacks figure heavily. Hmmm…

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

I’d welcome a despot.
 
We have no more sovereignty as Whites today than we’d have under Ivan IV, Vlad the Impaler or Bad Uncle.
 
And they weren’t committing White Genocide. They fought enemies of their people, not the people themselves. That would be an upgrade for Western Whites.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Exile
17 days ago

yeah, when do we get our pinochet? I’m a helecopter manufacturer and i want to know.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

Ben, a bit of clarification wrt Spain and Franco is in order. Franco named Juan Carlos (King of Spain) as his designated successor. In turn Carlos headed a Parliamentary Republic. One reading your post might assume Franco created something akin to a democracy as we understand it in the US. I’m pretty sure Franco distrusted Democracy and did his best to avoid such excesses, however he knew he could not live forever.   As Z-man pointed out, it is most likely we who are an aberration wrt our form of “democracy”, which I might add was *not* the original intention… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Compsci
17 days ago

Compsci, you are of course accurate. I’ve even been outside his palace but that doesn’t make me an expert. But, so far as I know, all modern (past century or so) European countries with a monarch have been actually controlled by a parliament or similar. Usually the monarch has little, if any power in the government. Even having been a student of Spanish lit, I confess I don’t know the details of the current Spanish government. The more important point in my earlier post is that Spain dramatically swings its political pendulum between Franco-like Church and conservatism and liberalism and… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

Well, there you got me. I don’t pretend to know the powers granted to the King. But what I’ve heard is that the King was well liked by the people (similar to the Queen today in GB) and as such was a strong figurehead to lead the people into a semblance of democratic rule. This was important. What Franco rebelled against 30 years previously (and what he is hated for by the left) was overthrowing the Constitutionally elected government of Spain that was turning communist. He robbed the Leftist commies of a foothold in Western Europe. Quite similar to Pinochet… Read more »

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

History shows that monarchy is by far superior to all other forms of government. Somebody has to be in charge and hold the ultimate responsibility. Only monarch can do that. Not a clown monarch, like the ones that exist in the West today, but one with real power.

theRussians
theRussians
Member
Reply to  Hun
17 days ago

Took the hand off the tiller…

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
17 days ago

Even a mad king had financial incentives not to go overboard. Nowadays nearly all of the pushers of the insanity are nearly immune to any practical financial considerations. They are either in the government, academia, massive foundations, in the outright monopolies in the tech sector, or in the media oligopolies.
 
Imagine giving the nastiest AWFL in your neighborhood a couple million to work on community advancement and watch the swath of destruction she will cause. That’s our nation right now.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Chet Rollins
17 days ago

Fortunately the damage such person(s) will do tends to be limited by the sheer greed and incompetence of such movements. After skimming off as much as you can for yourself, and for your closest friends, whatever remains will — sort of — be put to use in whatever the organization’s stated purpose was. Particularly in these “woke” times, such a mission is likely to be very ill-defined. For example, in practice, what does it really mean to (I’m making these up) “empower disadvantaged urban youth and give them opportunities to participate in society” or to “increase access to affordable health… Read more »

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

There is an idiom that may not be current but sums up Government programs:
“Good enough for government work”.
 
 

miforest
Member
17 days ago

” timing and terror of the eventual collapse” . given the current lockdown madness and the slow moving tranwrek that the supply chains are becoming, this event is likely to be global in scope. something unseen in human hisory.

Skeptic16
Skeptic16
Member
Reply to  miforest
17 days ago

Was tranwreck an oblique reference to the recent SCOTUS decision or simply a typo?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Skeptic16
17 days ago

I just had a phone visit with my extended family. My 30-ish cousin told me of the wonderful Supreme court decision that upheld tranny and gay rights (I still don’t know the details, nor care.) I told her that I was surprised that I hadn’t heard about it on the right-wing sites I frequent 😀 Now I have. I still don’t care about the details. I did (tiny) red-pill my Liberal cousin: I stated that everyone should have the same rights. We must plant the red pill where we can, and hope it may have some effect. On a slight… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

The wedding cake description is incorrect. The baker would sell a cake already made, he had many on display, but would not decorate such specifically for a gay couples wedding. There is a difference. One is selling a commodity to whomever comes through the door—and it was shown he had other, gay customers who for years entered his bakery and did business with him. Never did he turn them away or treat them differently than any other non-gay customer. The other involves participation in—or celebration of—the wedding. To wit, he was requested to decorate the cake himself in special ways,… Read more »

Xman
Xman
17 days ago

“You can lose your job for refusing to use the right pronouns, for example.”   That actually happened to me last year. Academic job.   It was actually a terrible, low-paying job, and they were trying to get rid of me before that for purely political reasons but couldn’t because I was competent. So that was the pretext they ended up using.   It wasn’t intentional, by the way. Purely innocent mistake. Some “transgender” looked like a male, so I addressed “him” as such. I had no way of knowing otherwise, but it turned out to be a female. HR… Read more »

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Xman
17 days ago

The university is by far the single most anti-white institution we have and it’s been that way for a very long time. If we come out of this calling our own shots it will have to be completely rebuilt.

Dinothedoxie@gmail.com
Dinothedoxie@gmail.com
Reply to  Yves Vannes
17 days ago

Universities are an obsolete institution that made sense in the 14th century but with the changes in technology are a net, and nearly complete, waste of resources today.
 
We need our very own Henry the VIII to do to them what he did to monasteries, that had similarly outlived their usefulness to society.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Yves Vannes
17 days ago

Raze to the ground, sow with salt.
Homeschooling and in-group teaching is going to be the future for Our Thing for a long time to come.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Exile
17 days ago

Sounds like a joyous idea,burning the universities should cheer the remaining sane american whites.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Exile
17 days ago

Homeschooling is probably not an alternative for tertiary education. K-12 great. University, not so much. Online is much better alternative, albeit not sufficient for all training. And online needs to be careful managed to be effective. Online is much, much more than a camera set up in front of a lecturer. STEM education which often requires labs and hands on stuff would seem problematic as well. Not sure how a human anatomy class would be taught at home over a Zoom connection. 😉   Rather than burn down the system, fundamental reforms can/need be made. For example, Europe issues Bachelors… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Compsci
17 days ago

Thank you for the reply. I assume you are from Europe? Yes, most countries there seem to have a saner University system. I’m probably over-generalizing, but often the education is free, but you must qualify, and openings by specialization are limited so you might not get in even if you otherwise qualify. And, in general, your governments don’t waste money and effort on educating those of lower ability. However, I’ve read that in some countries (Greece?) a college degree is basically worthless because the rich can “buy” a degree for themself. America has all this and more; we have everything… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

Ben, I sometimes assume of the other commenters here that they are familiar (fed up?) with me. As you are not, then I’ll tell you. I am not a product of European education. All American, but before the great poz’ing of the University system. My professors as a young undergrad wore suites and ties and even smoked in the classroom during lecture. I spent my entire career in higher education at the university. I am a first generation American as well. My father came here after the war from an occupied country. America was all he thought about (that and… Read more »

Anna
Anna
Reply to  Yves Vannes
17 days ago

The academics and MDs were 2 largest(percentagewise) groups that voted for Hitler in 1932.
“Intellectuals yet idiots”. They never changed.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Yves Vannes
17 days ago

Although it was in a different context, a few days back I posted what happened to Washington, D.C.’s Dunbar High School. It was ironically, a school for high-achieving Blacks that was ruined by Brown vs. Board of Education. I think a similar thing is happening to the universities, quality and politics-wise, albeit over a much longer time period. I found the Wiki particularly amusing because I assume Wikipedia is a Liberal snake pit, yet given such a bias, the article seems very objective. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar_High_School_(Washington,_D.C.) I was intrigued by the Fairfax Co. VA comments. Of course decades before my time, I… Read more »

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

It’s long but worth reading. The $1,000,000,000 failure at integrating a medium size city.

https://www.amren.com/news/2008/05/catastrophe_in_1/

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Xman
17 days ago

Sympathy. I hope things get better.
 
If I have to address a man in a dress as a woman, I don’t know what I’ll do. I need a job, but I’m not sure that I could actually mouth the false words.
 
Once again, we return to the 1984 movie where O’Brian tortures Winston until he says that O’Brian is holding up 5 fingers when he is holding up 4.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Ybkd_beUU

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Xman
17 days ago

“I do, however, greatly fear that the government will send in armed goons in a MRAP to kill me if I make one misstep someday.”   They will, I’ve already had the armored car full of goons at 3 am and I got it from a work dispute just like you. But unlike your tranny that just ran screaming like the shriveled sack mutant it was to HR against you, mine ran to the cops. Consider yourself lucky as if you get a criminal charge or your story goes public you will have a really hard time getting employment again.… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Apex Predator
17 days ago

During my evening walk I was thinking precisely about the problem that “police can’t actually go after blacks anymore.” What if that becomes the norm? Of course, Black crime will get much worse. But what will non-criminals (any race) do? Lacking recourse to the law, some of them will defend themselves by force, up to and including a gun. I wonder how many cases of white man shoots black man (with murder, civil rights, etc. charges if caught) it’ll take to ratchet up the country towrads a hot civil war? Do you think we are heading this way or am… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

Of course they won’t go after POC, but reserve their efforts on the easy prey, Whites. That is to say, those folk who won’t give them grief. But even that will ease and a level of lawlessness become the new norm. Even before now, there was difficulty recruiting new police officers as to prior decades. The job was always dangerous and for the crap you took, not too great in renumeration, but it was prestigious. Grade schoolers wanted to be doctors, lawyers, cops, when they grew up. Now, not so much. Life will be a little more harsh and brutal,… Read more »

BadThinker
BadThinker
17 days ago

Polygamy is still sort of meh among the woke, as it is far to focused on a traditional one man-many women dynamic for the woke to really accept it.
Polyamory, however, where degenerates live with and debase themselves with multiple “partners” is the new buzzword. It’s especially (un)holy when each partner has his own pronouns and proclivities.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  BadThinker
17 days ago

Polygamy is associated with icky white guys with giant beards, and icky states in the Intermountain West

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  BadThinker
17 days ago

Can’t think of a single functioning society where polygamy is practiced. Even when culturally supported, the 30-50% of males who’ll never mate get hosed.
 
Maybe Utah with the Mormons as it comes back into the open. Worked for awhile when they got going (low male to female ratio), but it’s a loser strategy for the kind of society I’m down with.
 
Polyamory is just weird.

waitingForTheStorm
Member
17 days ago

Over the years, we have retreated farther away from the trappings of major civilization. I have lived here for almost a decade and I can count the number of joggers I have seen on both hands. Even the section 8 housing here, populated by mostly down on their luck white people, are clean and well ordered. Crime is low and mainly of the druggie/burglary type. I do not miss the cities. I do not miss the great dark crowds of entitled miscreants bent on stealing my shit because they are too damned lazy or unmotivated. I worked hard for decades… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
17 days ago

Sobering indeed. Man oh man, great post! There is ABSOLUTELY no one in power at any level who will confidently and with certitude speak truth to or call out this madness. They fall all over themselves to vie for the most virtuous, most moral as they leap into the void. It’s hard to see any glimmer of light in this tunnel of blackness.

Kenny Stills
Kenny Stills
17 days ago

What if you guys are wrong?
 
What of things get better?
 
I find it hard to believe that things are as bad as you guys say they will be when at least 80% of the people think the protests and changes are positive.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Kenny Stills
17 days ago

Things won’t get better, because what is happening now is based on lies, and you can’t build a solid civilizational foundation on lies.
 

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  Kenny Stills
17 days ago

We have TROLL OF THE DAY.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  ronehjr
17 days ago

Kenny’s question seems to be in good faith. He sounds like my brother who believes that our country operates on a pendulum that swings from conservative to liberal and that everything will be okay, almost by definition.
 
I can’t prove to Kenny that things won’t magically go our way, but I would just ask him for his reasons to believe that they will.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  LineInTheSand
17 days ago

Ditto for my BIL. He says the exact same thing. Everything is a pendulum swing to him, it will get better. This is magic thinking that is simply a protective device for the psyche.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Compsci
17 days ago

Nobody knows how things will play out. But if you plan for the worst, the surprises are usually good ones.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Dutch
17 days ago

One 19th century curmudeon said optimism is cowardice.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  james wilson
17 days ago

Dunno. I’ve been a lifelong pessimist and am a bit on the skittish side. Not with my opinions, tho. I don’t know if would apply to the optimist/trolls discussed here, but I’ve found that when debating with someone, that at a certain point I say something like: “If anything I’ve said is untrue, or if there is an error in my reasoning, please point it out.” In most cases the person abandons the argument 🙂   My ego would have me believe that I’m smart, but isn’t it more likely that a lot of arguments I’m getting are just bullshit,… Read more »

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
Reply to  Kenny Stills
17 days ago

Well, if I’m wrong, then you’ve helped to organize your community, gotten closer to your neighbors, become more self-sufficient, and made The World A Better Place ™. It’s a no-regrets strategy, right? And of course, if you don’t think that 80% of people can be wrong, or lying to keep their jobs, you haven’t studied much history, which I feel is probably the case.
 
Of course, I doubt that you have any interest in helping communities of people like me, but I’m feeling charitable today, and will assume that you’re not Tiny Duck wearing a new even more tiresome skinsuit…

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Kenny Stills
17 days ago

Even if what you say is true, what you are experiencing is 80% (a made up number?) of people expressing that the protests and changes are positive. You have no idea what they truly think.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  c matt
17 days ago

One should be skeptical of surveys. What people say they believe and what they really believe are often dramatically different. It’s obvious that social pressure and similar will influence a person’s words, but probably not so much their beliefs. In economics this is called a “revealed preference” and is sought after information by marketers, etc. This is not merely an academic curiosity. Remember “New Coke” (1985 or so)? Coke did surveys and respondents said they preferred the taste of Pepsi. So Coke altered their ancient formula, unaware that people actually preferred Coke (shown by buying preference) yet reported differently in… Read more »

sam the man
Reply to  Kenny Stills
17 days ago

It’s good to be optimistic but not too good to have your eyes closed

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  sam the man
17 days ago

But when the tide’s out, this hole in the sand is so nice and warm and dark. What’s that funny roaring noise? 🙂

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Kenny Stills
17 days ago

Kenny,
 
I up-voted you for swimming up stream. Maybe you are right. Stay flexible and frosty though. If you are right and things get better you can have a good self-satisfying chuckle… if not, you better have made some fallback plans and hardened your heart for what is to come.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Kenny Stills
17 days ago

“…80% of the people think the protests and changes are positive.”
Hahahaha! 80%! This is exactly why legalizing marijuana was such a bad idea. 💩🤢
 
 
 
 

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Official Bologna Tester
17 days ago

I think that’s unfair. For example, many states have legalized marijuana for medical use. As soon as I found out, I got a license and am now proudly part of the millions helping in the search for a medical use 😀
In seriousness, Marijuana is one of the least dangerous drugs. Not completely harmless, but pretty tame compared to alcohol even.
 

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

Ben, that remains to be seen. The argument that it’s better than alcohol is fallacious, or at least factious. It certainly is better than say, that synthetic heroin, krokodil, they use in Russia or meth. But does that mean we need another drug or more soma for our already dull witted teenaged population? We’ve had 10,000 years to get used to alcohol and we know what the effects are. We know how potent it can get—200 Proof, or 100% (usually not better than 196 proof with moisture). Marijuana on the other hand is not what we had even in the… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Kenny Stills
17 days ago

You must have different source of information than I. 80% is a big number. Are 80% in agreement on anything in this land? Sources/citations?

Carrie
Reply to  Kenny Stills
17 days ago

what area of the country do you live in, Kenny?   if you are a new reader and legitimate (ie not a troll), by all means, keep reading. and with each daily reading of Zman’s posts, your assignment is to look in your own life / town / environment (including tee vee) And find an example (minimum one, but ideal 2-3) in your own life / surroundings, of his blog subject matter.   the objective is to get practice opening your eyes, both metaphorical and actual.   (I am, among other things, a teacher, so at least when Our Thing… Read more »

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Kenny Stills
17 days ago

Hey Kenny, ever watch South Park? Good luck, sucker.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Kenny Stills
17 days ago

Damn dude. You hit negatives that even I never have sunk to 😀
 

Exile
Exile
17 days ago

I’ll stick with Machiavelli re: the political primacy of fear.   Fear has power or we’d be posting with our real names. Our fear comes from being on the receiving end of power – as in Charlottesville.   If morality trumped Fear, Good Whites would actually live in the hood instead of Vermont.   The resistance to Trump is backed by real power and is emboldened by his inability or failure to instill fear in his opponents by exercising his own power.   Havel’s Blacked-grocers of today aren’t putting the Square of Submission in their shop windows because of morality… Read more »

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Exile
17 days ago

The maiden carried off by Cossacks soon learns to love her bandit husband…

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Yves Vannes
17 days ago

No Yves , The Maiden is dumped in the River.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44wzqWQxHpQ
There is a translation of the lyrics. The visuals were from the first Russian film.
Cheers !

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Yves Vannes
17 days ago

As the rape of the Sabine women taught us, the old ways of courtship are the best. Tinder is for betas.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Exile
17 days ago

Agree, though I believe that the situation is complex. It’s partly about fear for many whites, but it’s also about morality for many whites, particularly women. That morality is what gets so many whites to vote for a party that openly hates them – not that voting is going to matter.
 
Social ostracism goes a long way, but as I mentioned in my comment, it only goes so far. I use a pen name not because I’m afraid of not being invited to parties but because I’m afraid of losing my job and being blackballed forever.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
17 days ago

 “not that voting is going to matter”

 

My biggest hope and fear in single statement. Hope that this will recede and the “silent majority” will temporarily mouth the safe platitudes while pulling the lever for ratcheting this back.

 

The fear that the votes will be undermined and the amoral Leftists/Globohomos will just manufacture victories. Of course, that fear rides tandem with relief… relief that we no longer have any moral obligation to abide by the rules.

 

 

 

 

 

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
17 days ago

It isn’t morality to simply ape the mob. Indeed, most woke whites subscribe uncritically to the cult of victimhood, which explicitly denies agency for practically everyone but heterosexual white males, the putative patriarchal oppressors. True morality requires an act of the individual’s will predicated on his or her having chosen that act with a fully informed conscience. This is why the NPC meme is so accurate and provocative as an accusation. It would be more nuanced to say that while some are acting from fear, others appear to be acting from something akin to religious ecstasy from participating in a… Read more »

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
Reply to  Exile
17 days ago

Fear has power or we’d be posting with our real names.”
 
Exile, I don’t think it’s ever been put more succinctly.
 
We can’t even hold a g-d meet up where we could get to know each other, help each other out. In a fear-free society, we’d spend a few days every summer at SailerCon, or Lagos-by-the-Z. Instead we’re completely isolated.
 
I’m not saying it’s unwarranted or irrational; the stakes are high. But it’s true that most of us have been wearing a mask long before it became a fashion accessory.
 

King Tut
King Tut
17 days ago

The madness is not confined to the USA. It has been exported to my imperial province where BLM is now the most potent political and social force in Britain.   Already, our institutions are “reviewing” every historical symbol and landmark in advance to ensure compliance. The “conservative” government of Boris Johnson did everything short of physically grovel to the mob and pledged to “do much more to combat racism”. What they mean, of course, is that our history and culture is going to be dismantled and put in the shredder.   We have only had a minute taste of what… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  King Tut
17 days ago

Mark Auld
Mark Auld
Reply to  King Tut
17 days ago

The Corbett report called this WW 3. It’s the globohomo oligarchs war against us. All of the control features we’re seeing from pandemic to BLM riots are world wide, and designed to control and subjugate. They’ve got the leftists and all the institutions under there sway. No wonder the Donald seems like a blithering idiot.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Mark Auld
17 days ago

It’s the globohomo oligarchs war against us.

 
Globohomo already won 2 world wars.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  King Tut
17 days ago

People such as us are going to have incredible repositories of history, that the people of tomorrow will not even believe had ever happened. The powers-that-be will strip the past down to some grey, oppressive maismatic thing, and we will have stories of valor, of sacrifice, of beautiful construction and creation, and it will be our secret history. We are the monks, in isolation, that will make the transcripts for people yet born to read, so that they might understand where they came from.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Dutch
17 days ago

Just to be clear on the monk thing, we can pass down knowledge & still carry swords & get laid.
 
I’d rather be a Lindisfarner than a Lindisfarnee, IYKWIM

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
17 days ago

Z Man said: “No one in power is offering an alternative, other than more fear of the mob. The only questions now are the timing and terror of the eventual collapse.”   The madness can’t go on forever. Sooner rather than later an authoritarian regime will have to take over and clamp a lid on the chaos. I don’t see anyone on the horizon with the charisma and gravitas to pull it off, but the people that own and operate this hell hole won’t let eveything completely collapse just to placate the church of woke. If I’m wrong, then the… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Official Bologna Tester
17 days ago

I thought Tom Cotton sounded pretty good calling out the thought police. Not sure if he has enough charisma to catch on nationally.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
17 days ago

No, he’s not. Here’s the guy we need.
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Exile
Exile
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
17 days ago

Cotton is more Gay Oligarch Party goy-feed. Do not be fooled.
 
101% support of Israel, capital gains tax cuts, pro-Deep State cyber-monitoring & financial disclosure b/c terrorisms, interventionist foreign policy & endless military spending and OFC, condemned White supreemissses after Charlottesville.
 
Decent on immigration, 2A & abortion but he’s never had to take a stand that mattered on them – a lot of Cruz-tier grandstanding with no real downside risk. Gives you great 100% Conservative ratings, but no skin in the game. It’s not like these are controversial positions in Arkansas.
 
Has he commented on Sessions vs. Tuberville?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Exile
17 days ago

Ugh.
 
It’s truly sad how the vast majority of whites don’t realize that our fellow white people’s holy book is as, or possibly more filled with hatred than the Quran.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
17 days ago

Cotton crowed about the 125,000 new jobs his latest bill helped create; he didn’t mention that they all went to H1B Indian tech migrants. Sorry.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Alzaebo
17 days ago

Cotton is bad, but not as bad as Mike Lee. Jesus. Between Lee and Romney the Ut-ards are in a tie with South Carolina for worst GOP representation, and that’s saying something. Pay no attention to the facts, just vote what billion dollar mega-cult wants and pay your tithe.

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  JR Wirth
17 days ago

JR Wirth for president!

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
17 days ago

Was this his New York Times op-ed? I didn’t read it, and admit I don’t know much about Cotton, but I was amazed a liberal rag would give a forum to a conservative with an argument against The Narrative.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
17 days ago

In reading stuff here about Trump I honestly don’t know which way this republic goes? I voted for Trump and will again but I just have a gut feeling if he pulls this one out it will be by the skin of his teeth. We are too far gone. This is not 1972 and men like my father are in their graves. And if Trump does pull it out what then? We just got the transvestite ruling yesterday from the Supreme Court led by one of his appointees. Our culture war has been lost. We are deep in the nihilist… Read more »

Natarnsco
Member
17 days ago

I think virtue is an individual trait, as in the pursuit of excellence and an ethical life. Honor is a code of virtues shared among peers while morality is a commonly held ethical framework for a society. Traditionally honor and morality held each other in check. Excesses of moral piety could be stopped by manly honor while excessive violence or rivalry resulting from honor could be stopped by a genuine respect for morality. Long ago western civilization decided to do away with honor because there are no peers – we are ALL equal after all. The moment that a man… Read more »

Basil Ransom
Basil Ransom
Reply to  Natarnsco
17 days ago

Honor is also connected with enforcement. It used to be if I insulted your honor, you were not a man unless the two of us went out and had a gunfight from which more than likely only one of us would coming back. Once the state took over the role of enforcement, honor inevitably withered away when the means to enforce it was taken away.

Natarnsco
Member
Reply to  Basil Ransom
17 days ago

Exactly. And there is no redress for a breach of honor in the justice system because running to authorities to report someone for challenging your honor is a distinctly unhonorable thing to do even if it was enforced. It’s like the entire system is designed to squash manliness except among those that don’t care about a livelihood or imprisonment – a perfect recipe for chaos.

Vegetius
Vegetius
17 days ago

Two points   1) Beyond the timing and terror of the collapse, there are a set of interrelated questions. First, do we stand clear or do we help topple it over ourselves? If the latter, how to push the Old Republic over so that it crashes down on our enemies? Second, what do we do when Zero Hour arrives, and how do we do it?   2) We are already seeing a lot of new people popping up here and all over the dissident sphere. These numbers are only going to increase as the cultural revolution plays out. How to… Read more »

Skeptic16
Skeptic16
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Reply to  Vegetius
17 days ago

The current system is based on so many unfounded assumptions (racial equality, renewable energy, debt based monetary system, subservience to Israel, military overreach) that it will topple on its own. Stay out of the collapse footprint and survive to pick up the pieces.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Vegetius
17 days ago

Our numbers are still few and we are the designated fall guys. Stand clear, as much as you can, and survive to live another day. Do not fall for the CivNat idea that you have agency here, or that voting our way out of it will work. We have targets painted on our heads (as do the goodwhites, though they have no idea…), and thats just the way it is.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Dutch
17 days ago

Yup.
 
Unless you are surrounded by a like minded community of at least a dozen families discretion is the better part of valor.
 
Grey man theory all the way until you can find such a community.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
17 days ago

It’s more than just morality and social ostracism. There’s an iron fist inside that velvet morality glove. Not being invited to parties is one thing, losing your job and being blackballed forever is quite another.   But I would agree that these whites (not the Jews, however) wield that power with a true sense of righteousness. The Karens believe. I’d also agree that Progressivism by its nature can’t stop. To be a Progressive, you have to be out in front of the general population in your beliefs. Once society as a whole comes around to your beliefs (either by persuasion… Read more »

Skeptic16
Skeptic16
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Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
17 days ago

I don’t think Joe Normie is saying that at all. The media is highlighting those few Joe Normies who have said that. We don’t want these people anyways.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Skeptic16
17 days ago

I’d say that it’s a bit of both, the media hyping whites who grovel, but I think that a lot of us have seen in our own lives and in our areas a certain capitulation of CivNat types who went from “I don’t see color” and “we’re all just Americans” to “racism and systemic injustice are real and we whites need to listen to the black community.”   Regardless, it doesn’t matter to Progressives. Just like with gay marriage, the new accepted view of society with no real push-back anymore is white racism exists and is the main cause of… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
17 days ago

The CivNats are going with the program, but I have noticed how many of them have smartly learned to simply shut up and say or do nothing. The Proggies hate that, and the next step will be to make the ask for positive affirmation of their cause. CivNats will do it by rote, with their fingers crossed behind their backs. Then will be the ask for sufficient enthusiasm, like the videos of the NK big shots clapping wildly so they don’t get taken out and shot. Incremental asks will never end, but they are asks for a set of ideas… Read more »

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
17 days ago

Yes but……….. there really is only so much insanity a society can suffer.   Sooner or later – thru one method or another – the insanity will be reigned in. I’ve seen a lot of comments over the years about how normies have just put up with all of the insanity – because it didn’t really affect them.   But now it IS. There are issues with the supply chain, the BLM is looking for in-your-face handouts, cities are burning – etc.   Maybe I hang around with the wrong people – but nobody I know seems very encouraged by… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Calsdad
17 days ago

I assume that the CivNats being quiet and not responding is going along with noticing. But there is a big bridge, occupied by the troll of upside-downside personal trade offs of career and social standing, that may block the way from those CivNats truly coming over to our side for some time yet. Just my take on the thing, YMMV.

Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
17 days ago

Okay I take back my comment yesterday about your take being reductionist.   If you have children, btw, and you dont want them being radicalized into fanatics by the system, relentlessly teaching them how this system works, and undermining its morality for them is the only vaccine against it afaik.   I have been pounding into my kids’ head how morality is being used as a bludgeon to make us weak. Usually through stories cos theyll actually listen to stories and it doesnt feel like they are being lectured.   Now being one of the “small minded” who thinks this… Read more »

Calsdad
Calsdad