The Sunset Of Trump

President Trump kicked off his re-election campaign with a rally in Tulsa Oklahoma on Saturday night. The most remarked feature of the event was the tiny crowd that bothered to show up. Even the Breitbart zombies could not help but notice that the arena was about a third of capacity. The other remarkable feature is that Trump pretty much used recycled material from the past, rather use the event to reframe his flailing election campaign. It was very low energy.

In fairness, the run-up to the event was marred by the mayor declaring a state of emergency, along with warnings that mobs of Antifa would be there to beat people trying to enter the arena. Even the dumbest white people are starting to realize that the police are there to protect the Left and their masters, so going to an event like this means running a gauntlet of protesters, while the cops cheer it on. Trump can forget about holding rallies this summer. The Left will not permit it.

Still, there is a marked lack of enthusiasm for Trump. By the standards of his rhetoric, his presidency has been a spectacular failure. His two great achievements are throwing open the prisons so violent blacks can prey on his voters and massive give-sways to the super-rich and global pirates. If you voted for Trump because of immigration, you have gotten less than nothing from him. Immigration has increased, work visas have increased and he bungled DACA into a permanent program.

The worst aspect of Trump and the one that will probably cost him the election is he keeps endorsing the morality of his opponents. In one breath he tells his voters he will fight the Left. In the next breath he tells them the Left is standing on the moral high ground and he worships at their feet. DACA is a perfect example. He could have rescinded it and been done with it. Instead he spent years telling us he cared more about these invaders than the Democrats. The court believed him.

If Trump was actually fighting for his issues, his lack of accomplishment could be turned into an asset. People can respect a guy who keeps fighting against a system that is as thoroughly corrupt as Washington. That’s not the case here. Trump endorsed Mitt Romney for Senate, hired John Bolton, opposes Jeff Sessions. He has spent his entire time in office singing the praises of blacks, Hispanics and migrants, while never mentioning white people, the people who voted for him.

At this point, a reasonable person has to wonder if Trump was not a Manchurian candidate all along. If in 2016 you were hoping to derail white populism one more time as you slammed the prison doors shut, what would you do different? Millions of white man hours were invested in Trump that could have gone to building a second party or building a legitimate alternative to the ruling class. Trump was actually a delaying action all along, so the ruling class could finish their work.

Now, a lot will happen in the next four and half months, so it is foolish to write-off Trump completely at this point. He is running against a dementia patient. Lost in all the tumult of late is the fact that Biden has declined even further since we last saw him. By the fall the choice could very well be a terrible disappointment or a man unsure of where he is at the moment. That and the background could be blacks looting and burning white neighborhoods in the suburbs while the cops laugh about it.

Trump can also help his cause by firing the Hillary Clinton supporter he has running his campaign at the moment. That’s right. His campaign manager, Brad Parscale, did not vote for him in 2016. He could also sideline the Chabad agent assigned to him. That would be Jared Kushner, the genius mind behind throwing open the prison doors so BLM can riot in the streets. Kushner really does resemble a lizard person, so maybe Alex Jones is right about that one.

A campaign centered on reviving the economy and restoring law and order would at least have some coherence. He could then run against both parties as responsible for the mayhem we are seeing. It would be cynical and dishonest, but it would probably work to re-energize his campaign. It would also force Biden to defend the establishment and the current mayhem. Forcing Dementia Joe to speak in public should be Trump’s number one priority throughout the summer.

Whether or not Trump does anything to save himself is an open question at this point, as he looks like a beaten man. His rally in Tulsa was a dud and it was clear he knew it as soon as he waddled on the stage. He was once again setup to fail by people around him, people who worked hard to prevent him from winning in 2016. At this stage, it would be remarkable if Trump realized he has to stop trusting his enemies and doubting his friends. It’s possible, but the window is closing.


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Grandpa Lampshade
Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

Not to boomer bash but Trump does what he does because he is a quintessential boomer in his views of the world and the system as a whole. In other words, he doesn’t see the system itself as being corrupt to the core. Instead, he clings to the illusion that it’s just being prevented from working correctly (instead of accepting the reality that the system is working as designed) by a few “bad apples”. Again I think a part of this is simply age. By their very nature, old people do not want to turn the apple cart over and… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

Yeah but the aging hippies are old too but they don’t want to tinker with the system. Supposedly they want to blow it up or have their young cronies do it for them. but if Trump still doesn’t get it, that the system is rotten to the core, then it’s a failing of his. Maybe because he’s super rich that if the system is rotten then it means he may be too since he thrived in it and is a product of it, so therefore it can’t be rotten in his mind. but it’s just bizarre all around. We have… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

I think the biggest joke we’ll find out one day is that Trump’s “wealth” was just an interlocking set of leveraged loans. Exactly like…the system. Replete with pure fraud on Wall Street, filtering all the way down to main street. If “the system” could actually occupy talking meat, it would be Trump.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

I think the biggest joke we’ll find out one day is that Trump’s “wealth” was just an interlocking set of leveraged loans. 

That’s practically everybody’s wealth. We won’t find out who’s actually rich until the banking system stops working.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

Divide everything by 20

That’s pretty much what everything is worth in terms of actual cash since there is only about $15 trillion of it and yet the appraised “values” of everything from houses to stocks is like $300 trillion

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

They still think the commies are going to nuke us if we don’t buy the world a Coke. Hard to beat childhood programming.

I was thinking about that the other day. They had MLK and the moon landing. My generation had Rodney King and the Challenger disaster. To give only 2 examples. It’s no wonder I find their perspective so hard to relate to.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

We spent our childhoods losing our fathers and becoming latch-key kids. I can still remember walking home from school and hearing about the space shuttle blowing up and also the mayor of my city bombing a city block (the MOVE disaster). This along with books and movies about the impending nuclear holocaust. But at least we got to see the Berlin Wall fall. Gen-X was the last generation to experience a major positive event which changed the world.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

From what I saw on my cul-de-sac, mom generally pushed dad out of the picture because he was a workaholic who didn’t pay enough attention to her, as she was off jazzercising her a ss off when he actually was home to pay attention to her. Driving home “late” in her new 3 Series, angry that he didn’t make enough to buy her the 5 Series.

Simon Legree
Simon Legree
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

You have just described my childhood to a tee. At least I learned how to cook for myself. Fellow Gen X.

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

You don’t count every new app and site that comes along? Major, positive and world-changing all, better faster and cheaper every few years! You’d better take your Soma and rethink your position.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

MOVE disaster

I don’t remember a lot about that, but as far as I remember, those guys had it coming. One of the few times in history that having a Black mayor was beneficial, because only a Black mayor could get away with that kind of slaughter.

Simon Legree
Simon Legree
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

The mayor ordered a police helicopter to air drop a padlocked satchel which contained twenty-five pounds of C-4 and a timed detonator. Mussed their hair up a bit and resulted in one heck of a fireworks show. Coming to organizing meetings for Our Thing soon except delivery will be by drone. “This is Dominos, your pizza delivery has arrived, please open the door.” KABLAMMM! (an Israeli technique)

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Simon Legree
4 years ago

MOVE took over a building in a rather violent fashion and was nooisy and public so the cities Black mayor wisely dealt with it.
Our Thing is going to be a hell of lot more discrete and if it every goes to that, there are plenty of ways to return the favor.

Simon Legree
Simon Legree
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

Re your second para, I am skeptical for many reasons, although I do pray you are correct and I am mistaken. In my neck of the woods, actually the core of a major metro, it’s extraordinary when I can identify a supporter of Our Thing. Typically, the rare maga attire wearer is mere edgy rebel and not a true believer or useful ally. I have helped convert a few but the numbers are not encouraging. Most folks just keep their heads down and parrot the narrative. Time will tell.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

Our thing will be…

Ah, but their thing IS…

Simon Legree
Simon Legree

Our thing will be…
Ah, but their thing IS…

Their thing is old and decrepit and our thing, provided it can sustain and grow, should have the vitality theirs lacks. I don’t see them rejuvenating a base anytime soon.

Time will tell.

Now whip it
Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to detect it
It’s not too late
To whip it
Whip it good
When a good time turns around
You must whip it
You will never live it down
Unless you whip it
No one gets away
Until they whip it

abprosper
abprosper

We know what it is, a great place to have a family but its not exactly easy getting the Right to cooperate. Beyond that, a lot of us have no idea how to have a proper family, lacking fathers, mothers, siblings and often other relatives as well. So many relationships have been messed up far before the Internet area that its hard to have a basis and to make it work. If you want the toll of modernity, try this. I know a family that went from sizable with high survival rates split off and than from a recoverable 3… Read more »

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

May I suggest you consider fighting for it?

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  lurking_in_hope
4 years ago

Its not a fight where arms matter. If I had the powers of some superhero and became Justice Lord Prosper, nothing would change.
Short of rape gangs ala Nicolae Ceaușescu nothing can cause a fertility rate to go up till it does.
Religion has been tried, failed. Short term wealth redistribution, failed ,Jobs programs, failed.
Every nation, every culture will fail.
Maybe, maybe with an extreme amount of effort we can reach a stable state or a slight growth that is about as good as it gets.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

I mean actually fight.
That’s usually a precondition for reproduction – staying alive.
(Iphone is weird now with new page. Apparently Bold until the first period or sentance. Strange)

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

Speculation: increasing dystopia, 1984 or North Korea style to end-game, possibly increasing automation ( = less people needed). At some point, call it The Fall, massive die-off due to system failure and/or deliberate genocide. Remnant populaton perhaps 1/10 or 1/20 of final peak, subsistence near-stone age. Time line, don’t know.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

The ability for anyone to maintain anything in modernity is in decline in real time. I’ve seen it day after day. The dystopia goes with it as we won’t even be able to manage an industrial society on any scale much less something that complex. Now a massive decline in population by 80% would put as at 1850 levels, just sustainable , 90% about 1700. That we can sustain. On a long time line, a couple of centuries or less in theory, the US will be a very White, very Christian nation. No predciction this far ahead is realistic but… Read more »

lo-tech
lo-tech
Reply to  Simon Legree
4 years ago

The MOVE thing was hilarious and cathartic. As recently as the 1980s these big city police departments didn’t kid-glove it with Black militants. But from the MOVE thing came the Mumia Abu-Jamal thing, and the Philly police force has long since been proper “cucked’ as the kids say. They don’t get out of their squad cars these days.

SixxSigma
SixxSigma
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Easy tiger, your Reaganism is showing. East Germany went from the frying pan of communistic suppression and into the fire of western racial mongrelization and destruction of ethnic pride. Note that while many eastern bloc nations labored under the yoke of communism, they remained ethnically homogeneous. “Big government” is not evil so long as it works toward the interest of the volk.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  SixxSigma
4 years ago

However true that might be, that is in hindsight. At the time, it was seen as a giant positive world altering event. It was on TV for like a year. It was a big deal and it had an effect on us. It was super-optimism is a time that already had so much optimism songs like “The future is so bright, I gotta wear shades”

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

Absolutely. I’ve been dealing with this forever. And a boomer will literally finger wag to you about how they “bootstrapped” it. They were handed a country that was number one, or near number one in every metric. Bootstrap my a ss. To this day they believe their own hype.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

In Boomer’s defense, “Muh Bootstaps” were still a real thing when they were in their teens and 20’s.

My frustration with them is not understanding that the world has changed.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

In 1970, if you told some dirty begging hippy to get a job, it was an entirely legitimate insult. Good jobs were low hanging fruit.

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Boomers (I’m one) are more interested in getting that SS check and gliding in for a smooth landing. Don’t give it to them!

Philly
Philly
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Frack you, I paid FICA for 45 years so yes, I like the SS check. I hope you don’t get one.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Philly
4 years ago

I’ve paid it for 23 years and counting. Something like 10 cents of every dollar I’ve ever made, and I’ve never had illusions of getting a penny of it back when I retire. Millions can say the same.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

Yeah I love it when I see comments about how those snowflake kids aren’t inheriting a thing from me! I’ve started pointing out that the kids aren’t even going to inherit a nation from them. Zero self awareness. It’s astonishing.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

Time for me to step in again with the “generational accusations” bullshit is bullshit. People in each generation behave as they have been raised and as the times nudged them. Most people aren’t really good at striving against the tide of humanity. Boomers — you’d act just like Millennials and Gen-Zers if you were raised like them in the same circumstances. Gen-Zers and Millennials, the same in reverse. People suck and are largely short-sighted. Major revelation. Try reading the Bible sometime. The authors had that nailed several thousand years ago. But since people suck and are largely short-sighted, every new… Read more »

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

I try to be even-handed about this stuff. And frankly I’m most critical of my own generation for being puppeteered, which is pathetic. But all the same I get frustrated hearing what I’ve known for most of my life (re: being cut out of the will) as if it was our fault. We’ve always known about demographic replacement, national bankruptcy, being priced out of our home so it can be sold at a tidy profit, etc. It’s adding insult to injury. So good on you for not rubbing it in. What the right needs to realize is that hope of… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

I would just say help them out now if you can Vizzini so that you might get them to Self Sufficiency a lot faster because who knows how much time we really have…

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Oh, I have helped them out now.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Do you get the feeling the Coup has already happened?! Maybe during the Wuflu lockdown They just took over. What do think a coup is supposed to look like anyway? Now consolidating power. Who needs rule of law. Notice now a new proclamation via a crisis gets made, the media blasts it out everywhere, then the Karens-Blue Haired Cat Wahmyn, Orcs, Trannys, Soyboys beat the rest of us into submission. No need for legislation. Kiss their feet! Anyone noticing the 2030 The Great Reset of the World Economic Forum agenda current now on Youtube. Their agenda is clear and right… Read more »

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lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 years ago

No coup. This is collapse. The only coup was the Army refusing to follow the President’s orders. That’s the limit of what can be done by the DS, and it suffices. We have a collapsed National Government that can’t squash an uprising of sub-par enemies. The truth is we’re past the Turning Point but the enemy ran out of Troops at their own Turning point. This is a setback for them, there’s no one in their way, not officially. This is actually what Failing State looks like at the beginning. There are no cops and no soldiers standing in their… Read more »

lo-tech
lo-tech
Reply to  lurking_in_hope
4 years ago

Sentiment understood but what you’ve written is a bit much. As Adam Smith wrote “There is much ruin in a nation.” The reference here might be a place like Argentina. Hasn’t been a normal functioning country for decades, seesaws back and forth between socialism and free market liberalism (i.e. what passes for the “political right” down there), defaults on its national debt every decade or so. Periodic civil unrest, high crime, but it’s affluent enough that things just kind of go along. Long story short, yes America is maybe a failed state in the Argentina sense of that term, not… Read more »

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

Vizzini is right, generational terms are marketing terms, and in truth really only apply to the elites and the 10% strivers underneath.

I know plenty of good, based Boomers, mind you often Vietnam Vets.
Same with X-ers, same with Z, same with whatever we’re on. These terms are used by marketing for those who want to buy into – and mortgage themselves to – a system we are watching collapse in real time.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  lurking_in_hope
4 years ago

NAXALT goes without saying, yet I think there’s some utility in the idea of generations. I can’t honestly relate to postwar America any more than someone born since 9/11 can relate to the 80s/early 90s that shaped my outlook. And for my part, I can’t imagine never knowing peacetime, or being plugged into the matrix from birth.

Philly
Philly
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

I’m a boomer. When we got married, my wife and I had $1,500 between us, college degrees that we both worked to pay for and a ’68 Camaro. We came from lower middle class families, so no financial help there.
We had three kids. Paid college tuition for two of them and the third got a full boat academic scholarship.
We retired as millionaires. This was all due to hard work, nothing else. So, yes I believe in bootstrap, you ass.

John Carter
John Carter
Reply to  Philly
4 years ago

You don’t see how you stepped right into the boomer stereotype that was waiting for you. this is something we can never do for the left. Z man draws this parallel with the Hitler costume on stage that one of our guys “agrees” to wear. the best thing that can happen when the left storms the “nazi” high ground is for no one to be waiting for them on top. Any other action lends legitimacy to the system because it justifies the left’s reactions in the public mind. Just like Mr. Boomer here seems to justify some latent anti-boomer resentment.… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  John Carter
4 years ago

After curve flattening and now rolling over to rioting blacks, yeah, a little bit of resentment. It’s time to get a grip on this thing.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

I’m a late boomer (1961). Your comparison is partly correct, but the US space program had its fatalities (Apollo 1 fire) and, unless I’m mistaken, all the rioting Rodney King (1993) to date doesn’t compare to the riots of the 1960s. And, unfortunately, there are still plenty of nukes in the world. Even though I live in the sticks in Florida, I am walking distance to what was once a “secondary nuclear target.” No idea today, but it is a regional airport and a National Guard site. But I’d rather go with a bang than a whimper 🙂

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

Did Papa Joe’s ever re-open after that fire?

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

My perception of these events, and I’m pretty sure it’s typical, was that we’d passed the peak. The game-changing promise of science was about to decline, so was the promise of racial harmony. This was about the time disillusionment was starting to settle in permanently.

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

You can choose any date for the the peak of a civilization. I’d add to your comments, my vote is for 1970 (+/-). The USA had won WW II 25 years earlier. The first Boomers were 20-30s. The USA reached many of its peaks economcially around 1970. We’d just landed on the Moon. Post-WW II, we had made great strides forward in Civil Rights, it seemed. We really thought The Negro could finally take his place as a fully equal citizen. Hell, we were on the gold standard until 1970! Yes, there were doubts and sign of rot by early… Read more »

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

1970 sounds good to me. The 70s are reputed to have been a pessimistic decade. Then we bounced back in the 80s and 90s, and then we went off a cliff in 2001 and haven’t recovered, except maybe briefly in 2016.

This could be the End, or the beginning of a new era. All I know is that the America that was is gone. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

https://youtu.be/MJRF8xGzvj4

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BerndV
BerndV
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

I was seven in 1970. The country was still nearly 90% white. Everyone understood that blacks were inferior but there seemed to be some hope that we could coexist in relative peace. Third world immigration was not on anyone’s radar yet. Being on the gold standard meant that financial profligacy would always be self limiting. I believe that it will be the fiscal irresponsibility of government at every level that will ultimately crash the system. Federal debt to GDP cannot grow to the sky. There will be a reckoning and it will historical.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

I always had fairly low expectations for Trump, but for different reasons. I thought one guy just can’t do that much and that he was going to face serious opposition no matter who won 2016 in the Congress. The one thing I did not think Trump would do, was give a bunch of never Trump traitors and cucks jobs in his administration. He should have turned to people like Pat Buchanan. I didn’t think Trump would be his own worst enemy. I don’t mind things like Q. It does our side no good to OD on black pills everyday. As… Read more »

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JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

I laugh and laugh every time one turns on him, and they all do, Bolton being the latest. It also speaks to what an A-hole he must be in person as well.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

As John Donne wrote: No man is a island.
And yes if the system collapsed Our Side would be no closer to winning and we’d be much worse off, that’s what Our Side doesn’t; get given how badly whites are fragmented.

We have no Paine, Washington or even a Smedly Butler to step up.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

That is because the US is a fake nation. Its needs to go away and be replaced with smaller nations purpose built to suit the needs of the people in them.
If things go to hell , well be more like Chaz when the time comes. He’s a half rate warlord by our standards but being a warlord still merits respect.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

Well, Raz is out in the street doing his thing and we’re still just sitting here on the Internet…

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

I don’t think the US is a fake nation even though I sometimes think we Americans are incompatible. But I do think the nation has been subverted and buried under a flood of immigrants. When you look at the things politicians were saying pre WWII it’s clear we got hijacked.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

True but repatriating 50 million people won’t fix the problem that Freemen and Damn Yankees should not share a polity.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

This is the system collapsing.
What are you expecting?
The Rapture?
Cannibalism?

Not yet. Get hungry enough… mmmm…

Apex Predator
Apex Predator

Stop shitting the place up with the bold writing. It does nothing but make people skip over your post, it as about as clever AS WRITING EVERYTHING IN CAPITAL LETTERS.

Just stop, or go away. I am 100% certain I speak for everyone here but unlike most people I am very open about calling out fuckery immediately both to my blessing & curse IRL.

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Start with fucking yourself, Apex Pussy. The new Z interface only allows Bold or Italics from certain devices. I already told Z, he said fine if that’s the only way it will work.
Sorry, I didn’t realize this was such a big part of your life, lol.
Perhaps soon you’ll have bigger worries than font sizes, meanwhile get some real complaints.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

I love the word “fuckery.” I first saw it in a Ursula K. LeGuin SF novel. In that world, it actually was a building for coitus 😀

Brooklyn Dave
Brooklyn Dave
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Don’t assume you speak for everyone here. You are sounding like a “Karen.”

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Brooklyn Dave
4 years ago

Its not the content but the format. Yelling is rude.

John Carter
John Carter
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

I disagree – I don’t see our options as so limited. No one steps up now because there is no room to do so. It’s just as well for the time being because what the regime needs more than anything are enemies. Don’t provide them with that.

Anon
Anon
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Q is no more a morale booster than morphine is a cure. It is an invitation to check out and seek escapist respite in spy novels.
As to the merits of accelerationism, it is looking less unattractive by the day as people’s sunk cost attachment to the status quo grows weaker. Every one has a different threshold below which they would pronounce the system untenable and collapse-worthy. Once critical mass is reached, the benefits of organizing your life outside of it outweigh the risk of forgoing its extant benefits.

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tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Anon
4 years ago

It’s not really sunk cost, it’s future cost. The cost of living would rise exponentially and at a far lower level. We do not make hardly anything. What we do make, outside of things like packaged food and the like is high dollar equipment like planes, giant machines for production and military equipment. The basic underlying industry doesn’t exist and is gone too. The expertise has been lost as well. If we could not just print money people in other nations will take, our standard of living would collapse. And an industry for selling our used stuff to foreigners would… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Yup, the system is more than ready and willing to make examples of any pesky, “white supremacists,” via the police with military assistance as needed.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Stop worring about your standard of living . Its too damned close to money cuckingI If you have bullets, beans, band-aids and balaclavas you’ll be fine. What does have to be preserved is a chip industry for natural defense and nukes. Everything else can be rebuilt over a few decades and if people are too hooked on grifting or too truculent to pay decent wages than we’ll do with a lot less. We can deal with the Po Po if they become a huge issue too along with the media if it comes to that as well. Right now we… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

When I say “standard of living,” in addition to cars and washing machines, teebees, sail foams and the like, I am also referring to housing, clothing, energy and other necessities of life. Our society is built entirely around cars and plentiful energy. Energy prices will go up and people will lose their homes and apartments. Most people absolutely need their cars. Those $600 plus payments are hard to make when you don’t have a job. Oil and natural gas are easily exported. Of course, so is food. We import and export huge amounts of food. If foreigners can pay higher… Read more »

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

“We import and export huge amounts of food. If foreigners can pay higher prices, there can easily be food shortages here or a lot of people will be simply priced out”

Last year, there was a butter shortage in Europe (I don’t remember why); American producers started shipping butter to Europe, which created a minor shortage in the USA. Butter went from about $3.00 per pound to about $6.00 per pound.
During the past six months, the price has come down, and once again can be found for about $3.00 per pound.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

If (when) the Dollar finally collapses, your scenario is plausible. Also, the value of American labor would crash. This might be reflected in runaway domestic inflation. At first it would seem that cheap American labor would make us competitive in manufacturing, but the problem is a lot of our manufacturing moved away to cheap labor countries, that would be probably still be cheap after the USA’s downward “adjustment” 🙁

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Gentlemen,

This is system collapse.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator

See above re: your inane use of bold characters. You’re welcome.

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

See above, it only works in bold from iphone, now get a real life and some real complaints.
Apex Pansy “oh the font is bold ”
Try skimming, and get a life off line.

Bubette Salaam
Bubette Salaam
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

“The one thing I did not think Trump would do, was give a bunch of never Trump traitors and cucks jobs in his administration.” That’s exactly the argument I try to make. Trump loyalists: “He keeps getting blocked by swamp people, it’s not his fault.” Me: “That’s true, but then why does he hire swamp people? Hard to complain about Bolton if you HIRED him!” Trump loyalists: “Well, it’s Jared who’s leading him astray, Jared keeps forcing all these awful people on him.” Me: “That’s true too, but then why doesn’t Trump boot Jared if Jared’s candidates keep stabbing Trump… Read more »

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Bubette Salaam
4 years ago

I don’t want to hear any more excuses.”

I was waiting for somebody, anybody in that Tulsa crowd to cry, “BUT WHAT ABOUT US”

(the great Bubette Salaam! A fan thanks you for your wonderful twitter feed)

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Bubette Salaam
4 years ago

Trump blew it when he didn’t clean house and hire loyal people when he took office.

It would not have been possible to question that move because it is a totally normal thing for an incoming executive.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

This is true.
But he would have had to fire eveyone in the Executive Branch. That’s 3 million.
And they can only be fired for cause.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator

Ok, now you are starting to piss me off. More of this and I’ll call for your banning. I hate when people do this on Disqus too, I 100% don’t need to see it every 3rd topic here too FFS.

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

You did piss me off for a second, but now I pity you. This is vssx, by the way.
You poor man. I will pray for you.

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

Trump couldn’t find anyone competent and with pull in government that wasn’t a never Trumper. The MAGA types aren’t competent at governance, and the Civil Service certainly wasn’t interested in showing them how.

There is no way to legally “clean house” in government if their not a political appointee. They have Civil Service and legal protections since FDR.

In the end the interests of our government and elites are at direct odds with the rest of the nation, and an election couldn’t solve our problems.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

Wild Geese, As some observe, there are protections against removal of Executive branch workers, and only “for cause” removals can be made to stick. All well and good, but don’t try and pin it on policies of Roosevelt, and JFK authorizing unionization of Federal employees; they merely built upon a toxic precedent established early in the Republic. I refer to Madison vs. Marbury, in which Madison was forbidden by the Supreme Court, led by John Marshall, to remove Marbury from his Federal post. Marshall, a militant Federalist party operative, acted to make it impossible for Madison, a Democratic Republican, to… Read more »

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Bubette Salaam
4 years ago

Inside Baseball; someone in the Administration drew a Venn Diagram; 3 elements Never Trump MAGA Crazy Competent at Government The problem is they can’t find competent people who aren’t never Trumpers, or they are rare. He’s stocked his administration with plenty of loyalists – but they don’t understand the machine. And they’re often enough – Crazy. Pick any number of these women. BIOT there are people in his admin that would make your wildest dreams come true on immigration. But they can’t get anything done. In truth we need a Putin, this is the Combo Gorbachev Yeltsin. You should also… Read more »

Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Let’s say Q had been real. People should have thought “great, we’ve got a mole in the machine working for us, let’s see what we can do on the outside of the machine to seal its fate.” This is actually how you win wars. Different groups working together to encircle and crush an enemy. Only in Rambo movies do you just have one superhuman guy who fights the whole war for you. As the Soup Nazi might say – no exploding arrows for you! So of course it wasn’t real. I said yesterday here that I’m now a rage Trumper.… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Which is why I advocate for building our own system so we don’t have to rely it now and we won’t be brought down by it when it collapses…

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

The system is collapsing before you. This is what national collapse looks like. The only thing holding the nation together nationally is the enemy ran out of troops at their own turning point.

Leroy
Leroy
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

The problem with Q is that it is likely it’s an FBI op in order to channel populist energy into thinking he’s being held back and is fighting day and night to defend the country when in reality Trump never had any intention of delivering on any of his promises. America is a portfolio asset at this point and the American people only ever get two things no matter what the politicians say: neoliberalism and Zionism. That’s it.

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Hun
Hun
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

People who make fun of Q and stuff like it have a fantasy that people lose faith, the systems collapses and then we win.

No idea where you get that. I see Q people as delusional and sedated, but weirdly smug morons incapable of critical thinking. The system collapse thing does not follow.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago
  1. Lose faith
  2. system collapses
  3. Profit
JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

Fact check-True. And a lot of these boomers have a lot to lose. Houses stuffed to the rafters with trinkets they’ve been buying since the 70’s. You practically have to walk sideways when going through a boomer’s house these days. And when they do have to downsize it’s like that Steve Martin scene from The Jerk where he keeps grabbing things on the way out the door. “This is all I need.” The “conservative” boomers have no fight in them at all. They just want to stuff their faces at Mimi’s Cafe and go back to their 5000 square foot… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

You conflate age with cohort. As has been stated, show any significant division of the “Boomers” you decry doing “the right thing” as you see it. People get old, if they’ve been fortunate to prepare a reasonable retirement, they don’t particularly want to rock the boat. It’s difficult to begin again at an old age, the energy isn’t there and return to the economy difficult. However, I agree with others that “finger wagging” and admonishment to pick oneself up by their own bootstraps displays a profound ignorance and arrogance. I also maintain that I’ve never, ever, heard such from any… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Are you kidding me? I hear it all this time. And if you’re not going to rock the boat that’s fine, but to be utterly brainwashed so late in life is sad. So little of the country’s true problems his home with them.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

+1 for your sardonic quit 🙂 Here is a historical question for homework: Why does the boomer live (perhaps alone, as I do, but in 1500 SF) in a detached single family home out in the suburbs? Why doesn’t he live in a smaller, cozy home in the big city, perhaps one that was built in the 1920s and tastefully maintained? In otherwords, very likely the kind of home his grandparents owned or rented? Or, if of more modest means, why doesn’t he live in an apartment building in the city? Hint: find out how that old city neighborhood changed… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

There’s plenty of housing options that don’t involve being in a walk-up from the 20s. I’m just saying where their hearts are and have always been. Boomers have always been about quantity over quality, even in their eating habits and housing. They would rather have a monument to sheet rock than things that are well crafted and tasteful. They would rather have the Golden Corral buffet with unlimited cornbread than something tasteful down the street. Of course I’m speaking generally which is illegal these days. There are exceptions.

Cerulean
Cerulean
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

So it comes down to differences in esthetic sensibilities?

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Cerulean
4 years ago

Yes it does.Regional sensibilities. Am formerly from the People’s Republic of the Bay Area. A majority of people are or were Food Snots. From 25 years ago: “Try Acme sourdough-the best! Have you been to Alice Water’s Chez Panisse lately? The Cheeseboard Collective on Shattuck Avenue. Fabulous Ridge Lytton Springs zinfandel. Well, prefer the latest Silver Oak cab.” Now in Mormon Wally World: “Oh boy! A Golden Corral here in town. Can’t have a Mormon temple without a Golden Corral! Pass the green jello mixed with Cool Whip! Slurp! Let’s Eat-Eat then on to endless desserts! Cards with the ladies… Read more »

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 years ago

You win the internet today for that.

Philly
Philly
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 years ago

Are you off your meds?

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

The answer to Bens question is Orcs.

What do I win?

Or is that another one of those trick questions?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
4 years ago

You are correct! No reward was offered, but you do get an “A” on your work! 🙂

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

If you own it then why don’t you sell it and come to a small town and live in a 800 to 1000 square foot home with a large yard and good-sized shop on it…That would be a better lifestyle…

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

ever hear the song “Home for Sale” by Dwight Yoakam?

I think you would like it. Captures so much of what you are talking about

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Just heard it. It’s great.

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

“Not to boomer bash but …” … followed by guess what. I don’t disagree with you about a lot of boomers that I read about or see comments from on-line. The media, print-press, Hollywood, and so forth have been pushing the hippy boomer set for 50 years. But, there is a set of southerners born about the same time (boomers in other words) who know that the USA government is a creation of Lucifer. In fact, I have known damn few people my age who did not hate the government. Especially the f’ing feds. If the first civil war comes… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 years ago

As I lay me down to sleep,
Lord let me take some with me to the deep

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 years ago

I’m 53 but of the same mind as you

I have despised the government pretty much my whole adult life. I was raised in the south. And watching white pols from the south kiss the big yankee butt always infuriated me

Anything for a buck and NYC approval, white southerners be damned. See Northam

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

What the h*ll are you doing in CA then Brother where government is in every aspect of your life…

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 years ago

This is absolutely true. Some Southern Boomers bought into the Reagan hoopla, but they were a distinct minority. Most I’ve known hate the United States government with the heat of five white suns. Even their children and grandchildren still are less likely to buy into negrophillia and the anti-racism religious cult. Let’s hope if things get sporty those Boomers South still can get up and get moving. Many are anti-fragile and fully capable of what would be necessary. I asked several over the years the reason they hated the federal government so much, and the common response: bussing. It is… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 years ago

Mark, I hail from New Jersey (southern NJ), and back in the times of the WBS or the WoNA, my state was full of Copperheads, willing to let the Southern States go their separate way. Well, that wasn’t permitted, and here we are, down the rathole Lincoln dug. Not sure that a latterday conflict would be civil war, or war(s) of secession again. Our (((neocons))) wanted to break up Russia into smaller, weaker bits, but fortunately Putin and patriotic Russians thwarted the plan, and Russia remains a complex, but still integral nation, powerful enough to not be prey to the… Read more »

Archer
Archer
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

Gee, I am a boomer and I saw things were off the rails 15 years ago. Bush 2 had just won re-election and had majorities in both houses. I thought here comes the fulfillment of conservative principles about small government. What we got was the further centralization of education, a new handout (prescription drugs), low cost loans in the name of an “ownership society,” which led to the housing collapse, a fantasy that we could plant democracy in the Middle East, and a tiny tax cut. Now, looking back, I can see how silly our generation was. Let me count… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

Grandpa, I donated to you after your doxxing. I hope you and your family are well.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

This is a great description of the perspective of my Silent generation parents, who both voted for Trump.

“Oh, things will go back to normal, it always does!”

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

I guess the “Pendulum Fallacy” is a subtype of the “Normalcy Bias Fallacy.”

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

Methinks old people are liable have normalcy bias a bit more than radicals.

Philly
Philly
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

The “old system” bought more benefits to more people than any other in history. Until I hear details about another I’ll stick with this one, warts and all, thank you. BTW, don’t tell me that Socialism or Communism are better as I have personal experience with both and know that they suck.

Brooklyn Dave
Brooklyn Dave
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

Hey Grandpa, glad to see your still struttin your stuff. Always liked your various commentaries. I too am beginning to get weary of DJT and seeing that there’s a lot to be desired. I pray that in reality he’s not a Wizard of Oz character that was put behind the curtain by the Establishment to swing us around a few times by the short hairs as the far left finishes taking over the country. The Boomer thing is a part of it as is the staunch support of the Zionist entity. After four years in office it really doesn’t look… Read more »

Screwtape
Screwtape
4 years ago

On the individual level I see the Trump delaying action playing out with increasing frequency. The anarcho-tyranny of BLM/Antifa is penetrating deeper into the lives of the slumbering masses but there is nowhere for them to plant those seeds. Orange man bad and orange man lowest black unemployment leaves them in a dark alley with nowhere to go. Just yesterday a super lefty acquaintance was all worked up because her yoga studio got cancelled by a couple of rabid sjw lgbtpocs. All those freaks had to do was facebook post about how the owner had made them feel unwelcome. The… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Screwtape
4 years ago

Wow. That made my heart leap with hope. We don’t need to sell them- they need to sell themselves.

Here’s a very short, fun bit of why we may be blessed in full measure to live in historic times– a possible replay, and a rather Indo-European Fathers Day to our ancestors:

https://mobile.twitter.com/OakGwove/status/1274422678569525251

(Update: woops, touch the vid tweet itself for the fun comments. The ones on that^ page are irredeemably racist.)

https://mobile.twitter.com/OakGwove/status/1274422678569525251

Last edited 4 years ago by Alzaebo
Whitney
Member
4 years ago

Yesterday, I read Lawrence Austers’ “The Path to National Suicide: An Essay on Immigration and Multiculturalism ” I got to say, I had the most surreal feeling reading that while all the statues were toppling. Anyway I think it’s time to get rid of trump. Let’s go ahead and get this show on the road. The existential threat that white people are facing won’t be realized until it gets a little more obvious. Some of the white people are going to sacrifice themselves and that’s fine, they’ll be in the front lines and they’ll be cut down first but seeing… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Whitney
4 years ago

The BBC: “Meanwhile, in yesterday’s largely peaceful stabbings…”

Curt
Curt
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

I suppose it’s good that they report bad incidents. You have people in the US who believe Europe is more violent than the US because the stabbings, shootings, “random” attacks in the US are often not reported at all.
You have to go to the Daily Mail to find coverage of these crimes in the US.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Whitney
4 years ago

That’s a fantastic essay, right up there with the Enoch Powell “River of Blood” speech, or the book “Camp of the Saints.”
I encourage owning hard copies of each..the burning of books is right around the corner. I call it my “Forbidden Books Bookshelf” (which surprisingly has gone up considerably in value as publishers signal they won’t dare publish bad think like Camp of the Saints again).
No candidate, vote, policy or awakening is going to change the vector this country is on. Despair, however is a sin. No one can control what’s going on in your own head.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  ProZNoV
4 years ago

It is good. I bought it hard copy. $127 that was kind of pricey for an essay but it was worth it. And I tried to buy the camp of saints but it has actually gone out of my price range since he died. My entire library is the philosophy history, knowledge, and religion of our people. I feel like I’m building it for someone else. I’m not sure who.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Whitney
4 years ago

Nevermind, it was only $55 Now it feels like a bargain! I have a huge collection of out-of-print books

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Whitney
4 years ago

I’ve been going back & forth about this in my mind. I’m starting to lean towards a Biden vote because why draw out the misery any longer? It is very clear that your average white american is a complete fucking retard with no understanding of well… anything. History, racial IQ, who actually makes the trains run on time / delivers the food / electricity / etc, what the actual function of government is, what happens historically when you put black people in charge, who invented nearly every single item they use & interact with on a daily basis. So that… Read more »

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NJ Person
NJ Person
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

White women being afraid may be one possible but limited solution. I doubt the average white is a retard. But concerning race, he, she and it certainly acts like one. Much of the problem probably comes from our elites and their institutions. This is far beyond Trump. Most people do not have the time, energy or inclination to think critically or philosophize. In fact, it is much more psychologically easy to believe. We rely on the elites. Elites are necessary but they can be extremely harmful and even dangerous. Just look at WWI. Just look at the U.S. now.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

“What is the one thing that will cause the tides to shift? White women being afraid.”

And they’ll suddenly discover a sincere desire to have homes and children again.

I’m living proof- a Boomer, son of a WWll vet.

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Felix Krull
Member
4 years ago

<i>His two great achievements are throwing open the prisons so violent blacks can prey on his voters and massive give-sways to the super-rich and global pirates.</i>

You forgot about moving the embassy to Jerusalem.

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Honorable mention goes to his great SCOTUS picks.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  CAPT S
4 years ago

Oh c’mon now. Over the flames, I could hear grateful negroes chanting “Gorsuch… Gorsuch…”

Simon Legree
Simon Legree
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

What you heard was, “gibs-me-dat-fuk! gibs-me-dat-fuk! ….” (in the modern ebonic language, dat-fuk implies “n sheet.”)

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  CAPT S
4 years ago

Honestly Capt S; Trump picked from a list given him by conservatives, a dream list.
That they’re all turning on him just shows how political the Court has always been…the wind is blowing against Trump so the Court goes with the current.

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  lurking_in_hope
4 years ago

Noted. I’m simply regurgitating the excuse people give on why they vote for Trump. The lesson-learned, then, is that there’s no “dream list” of black robes that’s going to change a damn thing.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

With the Sandbagger-In-Chief riding off into the sunset (or muddling through another four years) we can write off any great white hope of having Our people represented in the system as is.

We tried. He failed. TPTB have trebled their efforts to humiliate and destroy us.

We are morally free at this point.

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Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 years ago

Ohh please there was no chance at all that our people would get real representation.

And there is no reason a white hope cannot arise even with Trump in office. Trump is a non-entity for the most part now. He’s afraid of the rioters and has no control over the government anymore.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

Rwc 1963, I think you misunderstand me, Sir. We were obliged to go through the motions of pretending there are rules and the game is fair. It was always a stacked deck but the moral imperative of playing the hand out is completed. With clear conscience we can step away from the rigged game. A hundred posts here and I don’t think I’ve mentioned Trump once. He was always a forlorn hope in my book. While he may have fronted himself as a representative of heritage Americans for opportunistic or vague personal notions, he nevertheless became the expression of the… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 years ago

Happy Father’s Day to you as well Brother I hope you got to spend time with your family…I had to work 😉

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Lineman,

I did and am sorry you missed yours. As always, thank you for keeping the lightning flowing.

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Officially recognizing Israel’s annexation of the occupied Golan Heights is another feather in his cap. Real estate is his business .

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Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

I’m going to help you out Felix since you keep posting the same thing over & over without the self awareness to realize it is not working for whatever reason. (Einstein, definition of insanity?) HTML tag italics do not work anymore. But as you can see from what I just wrote; Italics, do indeed, still work. While you are posting here direct your eyes to the little bar of icons at the bottom of the comment window. See the B, I, U, etc? Bold, Italic, Underline, etc as has been standard for at least the past 30 years on any… Read more »

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Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

<i>without the self awareness to realize it is not working for whatever reason.</i>

It’s a protest. Petty, perhaps, but still: not allowing HTML in your comment field should be considered a First Amendment violation.
And while italics work (you can even use ctrl+i), linking text doesn’t.

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Oh, you’re bothering others now.
Well, I will still pray for you Apex Asperger.

You must be a teacher laid off by COVID, no children to harangue. How sad.

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Actually Felix that was a costly decision for Trump. Peace has cost Trump the military, or at least the Generals. Moving the embassy to Jerusalem effectively ended the Palestinian conflict, which was always about aid money through UNWRA and the rest, especially the Palestinian leadership. So it was Trump actually being the Peacemaker for real. Where it cost Trump is generations of American’s in the State Dept and Foreign Aid, DS/CIA etc have made entire careers on continuing the Palestinian money machine; this cost him a great deal of support in government and the Beltway. Multiple generations of Americans have… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
4 years ago

Boy, there’s a bitter pill to swallow on Father’s Day! I, like a lot of others had at least relatively high hopes for Trump but it’s pretty tough at this late date to get fired up about much of anything. He’s surely a whole lot of bark and very little bite. One thing he has done for me: my hatred of the left – in all its various permutations – knows no bounds. There is no fate that would be beyond the pale for those bastards. I just hope I’m around long enough to see some of the just retribution.

Bubba
Bubba
4 years ago

I actually think his greatest achievement was his candidacy. The energy and fun we had in 2015-2016 was something special. And at that point it did really seem that the left was demoralized after watching Trump beat all the odds.

But that’s it, unfortunately. He’s bungled everything up ever since then. At this point, getting excited for Trump or a Trump re-election is like getting excited for an upcoming 8-8 season in the NFL with a 2nd-rate quarterback. There’s nothing to look forward to.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Bubba
4 years ago

I actually think his greatest achievement was his candidacy. The energy and fun we had in 2015-2016 was something special.

But was that Trump’s achievement, or did Trump merely ride the tiger?

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Trump woke up the tiger, maybe accidentally. But his personality and willingness to wack the other GOP candidates around was key to waking us up. A Jared Taylor type could never have done that. Now that we are awake, hopefully we can grow up a little and accept serious if boring leaders as is normal for us, as long as we are able to keep him focused on being on our side.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

No he had genuine moments. Plus, contrast him with jeb!

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Trump 2016 was a legitimate accomplishment. He was the only person who could have gotten off the mat after pussygate.

He was the most populist Republican since TR, and if he’d governed that way he’d be on cruise control to a second term.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Personally, endorphin highs of 2016 have long worn off for me. He couldn’t have governed that way, the poz is everywhere so it would have taken a actual revolution. Cheeto-face was always just a carnival barker. And reluctantly — coming from one — a boomer. It will take a different generation — not sure which — for anything to happen.

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Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Sure. Except that it’s pretty clear that Trump had no idea what he was going to be up against, or how to exactly to fight it. IRC it was you who pointed out that a sane establishment would have coopted Trump by giving him a few PR victories and then doing what it wanted to behind the scenes. Which would have worked because I don’t think he has any core beliefs and just wanted to be president for the ego stroking. It’s telling that the establishment couldn’t bring themselves to do even that. It’s even more telling that his response… Read more »

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

You’re assuming Trump was somebody other than he actually is. Personally, I don’t have any trouble admitting I was wrong about him. Let’s face it, Jared is in charge and we know what that means.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

What’s the difference? Prior President rode the tiger after a fashion as well. He was an AA candidate, of zero accomplishment, groomed his entire life for political ascendency.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

There’s a reason why no one else “rode that tiger”.

Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
4 years ago

At this point, the left is so ascendant and has its hands on so many levers, and has so thoroughly ingrained its values into the minds of almost every single American that regardless of whether Trump was a set up for us we probably should consider him a liability. In fact, that probably explains Trumps behavior: most people swim in leftist water, they dont even consider that there is an alternative other than some nebulous concept that the alternative is pure genocidal evil. This is going to sound defeatest but i have mulled this over for a long time and… Read more »

NJ Person
NJ Person
Reply to  Irishfarmer
4 years ago

You are probably right, Irish Farmer. It usually is a big mistake to rely on one person, especially one as flawed as Trump. The left achieved its dominant position after decades of working through institutions that now even include the military and big corporations. The dissident right is now in such a hole that will require decades of effort to dig itself out.  

mockingbird
mockingbird
Reply to  Irishfarmer
4 years ago

Jared and Ivanka would certainly like for us to vote for Trump again, but we would be stupid to do so. We can be forgiven for believing and hoping the first time, but he’s older and weaker now. If he wins, he’s handing the reins to them (more obviously than he already has) and taking the easy path, while setting his progeny up for possible power. I never really liked him, but voting for Hillary was unthinkable. Voting for Jvanka is equally or maybe more galling. Bottom line: He didn’t fight for us this term when he was facing another… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Irishfarmer
4 years ago

Since I am one of the resident pessimists, I must nod my head in agreement. If I were a young man (I’m not, I’m 58), and single etc. I would seriously consider if moving to another country is the answer. But I don’t think there is anywhere in the world that will escape whatever’s coming. That said, if you have family ties in a stable, not to say affluent, country, you might weigh your options. In my lifetime I’ve seen some of this happen: first they will impose exchange controls (you won’t be able to take your money out), until… Read more »

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Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

Perhaps one day we will have made our own thing we dont have to flee from. I believe it will happen, even if i only live long enough to see the seeds planted.

But we will get there.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

Eastern Europe and Russia.

Minuit
Minuit
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Why in the name of blazes would they accept US immigration? They have a country, a people, a culture, a language. Why would they allow people who stood idly by when stripped of all of those in? You’d be as welcome as a Californian in Texas, except unlike Texans, these people don’t have to let you in. Stand and fight in America, or go quietly into the night.

1UnknownSubject
1UnknownSubject
Reply to  Irishfarmer
4 years ago

We have to destroy it to save it. /s

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  1UnknownSubject
4 years ago

Sulla?

1UnknownSubject
1UnknownSubject
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Excellent reference Ostei.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  1UnknownSubject
4 years ago

I swear that left-wing journalist made that up. “Some unnamed captain” my ass.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
4 years ago

Biden is unaware but how much is Trump actually aware of? He’s always been a touchy-feely guy because that’s what he reacts to. Others have always ironed out the details in the backroom once he’s completed his performance art.  If the throngs are cheering he’s contented. If not he’s all ears to his handlers who control his world view… He’s surrounded by people who would not be out of place in a Hillary or Jeb cabinet. His right fringe is Rush and Hannity. For Trump Tucker is now little more than the embers of a dying fire at summer camp…it… Read more »

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Yves Vannes
4 years ago

Reminds me of the euthanasia scene in Soylent Green. One day of comfort and real food, a movie of beautiful scenes- of what was lost, plays on the big screen as they drift off. Of course they will become the soylent green themselves (“its people!”) to literally feed the illusion of hope and propagate the lie.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Screwtape
4 years ago

Thanks for ruining the movie for me.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

I first saw Soylent Green at the drive-in as a kid. Didn’t see it again til about 45 years later.

Astonishingly good- I don’t think anything could ruin such prescience.

(“Who are you?”… “Furniture.”)

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Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Yves Vannes
4 years ago

It takes brass cajones to step up, fight and die and they are rare among people. Most whites including the DR types will not.
And make no mistake we will not achieve anything without a lot of bloodshed because everyone else wants the brass ring as well.
It will make CW1 look like a picnic.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

As a group We aren’t blank slates. Somewhere buried within us is a drive for self preservation. Is it so deeply buried that it never surfaces in enough of us…or will it erupt and as you say…make CW1 look like a picnic?
Our enemies have turned up the heat and will continue to do so. We about to learn a lot more about our tribe or what’s left of it.

Simon Legree
Simon Legree
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

I am actually willing to fight and die. But I won’t do it alone or gratuitously. I must be convinced my actions will contribute materially to Our Thing. This requires leadership and I don’t see evidence we have it at an operational level. An isolated McVeigh-type incident invariably produces a counter-reaction that undermines attainment of the objective. Show me the leadership, help me join or form the cell. Mirage.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Simon Legree
4 years ago

Leadership comes naturally amongst men you dwell amongst and share bread and battle with… Imagine the Army do leaders just appear or are they cultivated and brought up through the ranks and by their actions and deeds are chosen as leaders… Untested and Unknown leaders usually end up with their men dead or captured…You have to have Community before you can build a movement…But it’s hard work and kinda boring so it doesn’t get done…

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
4 years ago

Trump wasn’t a planned Manchurian candidate. The establishment didn’t decide to run a phony populist. They hated him and took three years to trust him. They began to trust him because around year two they found out he was full of sh it and really believed in nothing but himself. If anything he’s our first entirely nihilist President. Even more so than Obama. I saw the clown show yesterday and it was a pancake makeup wearing old man on a used car lot trying to sell the worst lemon to someone who already bought a lemon from him four years… Read more »

Whitney
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

It really the perfect poetic end. Shades of the last days of the Hapsburgs

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Whitney
4 years ago

Yes!

Wkathman
Wkathman
4 years ago

Trump has never been anything more than a self-inflated con artist. He knows how to stoke the crowd with bombastic rhetoric, but he never delivers actual value.

Bring on President Stacey Abrams! If that doesn’t awaken the sleeping White beast, nothing will.

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Wkathman
4 years ago

I think the beast is awake. The problem is the beast isn’t as big as we had at first imagined. A tough pill to swallow perhaps. But Maybe we’re it. We’re the beast and have to start figuring out how to make ourselves heard and feared.

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

I live in NYC, the belly of the infernal Beast, and I can tell you a silent majority does exist, and surprisingly includes more than a few Asians and Hispanics.
People want stability and order, not rioting and race baiting.
I know many immigrants from the Balkans, Russia, and a few from China and Korea, and they don’t like this shit AT ALL. They are not hiding their disgust and fear over where this could all go, and these are folks who know full well what totalitarianism looks like, as well as large scale ethnic warfare.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Dave
4 years ago

I hear ya, but I was referring to the sleeping white beast, not the electoral majority.

as far as the mythical white beast that one day will awaken from his slumber, I think the beast is already awake and that beast is us. this is as big as it gets.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

give it time. it is still early. my hill tribes at watching intently. Could be wrong, but i do not believe they will bend the knee.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

the moment a white person agreed to take orders from a black, be it a coach or a military superior or whatever, they bended the knee I stopped playing sports because of it. I just couldn’t listen to a black person. It wasn’t mean, it was just instinctively I didn’t respect and trust them. And here I am today on the dissident right. Not many people shared my opinions, or if if they did they didn’t let it change their plans. But maybe I’m wrong on that. Maybe a lot of people did tolerate that black coach or that military… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Well, i’ve never had a black coach or teacher or boss for that matter. LOL maybe it’s a proximity issue.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

And I think it’s old

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Nothing is awake on our side right now. It’s pure REM sleep. Maybe one day.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Dave
4 years ago

Yep. This shit isn’t what most immigrants, legal or otherwise, bargained for when they came to the US. In fact, we’re rapidly approaching the point where America may be a net exporter of people. It’s getting that bad.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

If my family knew I would have to take orders from Africans, they wouldn’t have moved here

America seduced a lot of people with a ponzi scheme of fleeting wealth

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

In your dreams. What they “bargained for” was lots of money and opportunities at Whiteys expense. The $ and the government gibs are just too easy here. No,they will arm up in their own ethnic communities and police their own, and the cops (of any ethnicity) will leave them alone while continuing to squash Whitey.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

Not if the pace of deterioration continues at current levels. We’re fast-tracking to Third World status.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Dave
4 years ago

Hence my earlier suggestion to consider foreign countries. I’m not up-to-date, but there usually are plenty of smaller right-wing authoritarian countries where Whites (not to rule out Asians or other races tho) control the government, even if they are a minority. Often foreigners are tolerated at least, as residents, especially if they bring money, give some jobs to the locals etc. Just hiring a maid & gardener is within your budget if you have a pension or other income. I’d looked into this, Mexico or maybe Panama years ago, but I’m stuck in Florida with a home, a car payment… Read more »

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b123
b123
Reply to  Dave
4 years ago

The non-whites are angrier about the disruptions than whites.

I live in a part of Toronto that’s <40% white. The BLM protesters are always blacks, and young white women. The Asian/Indian majority has no interest in either blacks or whites. If things did get unruly here swift collective action would be taken to pressure local authorities to restore order. Be it BLM or white nat. uprisings.

Hard to know what to do when the majority of our own people won’t take our own side.

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Dave
4 years ago

And here we go again with civnattery 101. All your precious immigrants, the Hispanics and Asians and Balkans, BRING THE CHAOS WITH THEM. Yes, I’m SHOUTING. Again and again we see this “muh principles” fallacy. It doesn’t matter what they say they want. It doesn’t matter if they’re as good as you think they are. They aren’t White European. Their genetics were formed in an utterly different environmental cauldron. They cannot maintain, let alone replicate, your culture. They are not on your side – not even as temporary allies. They are here to take away your children’s heritage, and you… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

We are the beast, but the vast, vast majority of beasties have never heard of Z-Man.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

then they have beast like qualities but not beast like ears 😉

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

We’re already hated. We’re not feared. However, in order to be feared, we first have to be effective.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Wkathman
4 years ago

The pickanniny running the plantation house would be even more perfect than street ho Harris.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Wkathman
4 years ago

It’s not a matter of them awakening them, it’s s a matter of what they are going to do.
Z predicts with a Biden win, things will be a continuation of Obama’s reign. If that’s that case, whites won’t do anything. It will be a slow genocide for whites.
We either spicy smart or die.

Pickle Rick
Pickle Rick
4 years ago

Trump rallies are the CivNat Ghost Dance.

Did he mention record black employment this time?

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Pickle Rick
4 years ago

I am not very political but hated hillary and liked that trump was causing mayhem in DC. So I voted for him. I am not really sure if I ever even believed half the stuff he was promising. I live in California, and part of me was thinking it would be great if illegals were all sent home, but that means all of those apartment owners and everyone else set to lose lots of money and Trump couldn’t risk it. But in 2016 I remember telling my dad, who reminds me of trump and was on the bandwagon, that Trump… Read more »

ButterBean
ButterBean
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

all of those apartment owners and everyone else set to lose lots of money

What are (((they))) producing of consequence? They lease and jangle the finangle. But for them, we could buy, well you and youth could — I own my own properties outright and I always get negged despite being subpar GenX starting out then working hard whenever I reference my personal and household net worth. Next.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Pickle Rick
4 years ago

I think they had to goose the crowd with electric cattle prods to make them cheer when he mentioned Black Achievements for the 600th time.

The tired hesitation was, ahem, noticeable.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

Too bad they didn’t boo lustily.

Pickle Rick
Pickle Rick
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

If they were prepared to do that, they wouldn’t be at a Trump rally

observer
observer
4 years ago

ZMan wrote, “…so going to an event like this means running a gauntlet of protesters, while the cops cheer it on.”

Excellent, ZMan, thank you. Thank you for speaking this critical truth that the dimwit right still doesn’t get

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  observer
4 years ago

Remember San Jose in 2016 when the La Raza mayor and police chief funneled unarmed Trump supporters right through the rage mob. Trump and Sessions did absolutely nothing. I never heard them even mention it. Do you think if a Republican mayor and police chief did a similar thing to Obama supporters Loretta Lynch and the DOJ would let that pass? If Trump and Sessions had legally curb stomped those San Jose officials like they should have a lot of this stupidness we are seeing today would not be going on.

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Observer
Observer
4 years ago

Zman wrote, “Even the dumbest white people are starting to realize that the police are there to protect the Left and their masters.

Bingo, ZMan!… 98% of the right moronically has “cop love” and believes cops are their saviors. Asinine. Antafifa are the government’s shock troops and the police are Antafifa’s body guards.

When it goes down George Soro’s police will be the ones cracking the law-abiding’s skulls. The war will be George Soro’s police and George Soro’s military with a few soy-boys and browns thrown in against the free whites.

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Observer
Observer
Reply to  Observer
4 years ago

When it gets real and you’ve lost friends and family, Antafifa will go down like files… at your pleasure fast as you can switch mags. But when the USSA Red Gov sees their soy-boys going down, then it will be on. You’ll have every cop within 100 miles and several attack helicopters and MRAPs putting a dent in the party.

You mark these words, you dimwitted on the right. Antifafa can be brushed aside. But who’s going to gleefully crack your skull? Who?

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Observer
4 years ago

I think the whole cops-as-enemies meme is wildly overblown. In Minneapolis, NY and Seattle, yes. In Tulsa, Wichita and Omaha, no. And rural law enforcement dam’ sure isn’t going to side with ANTIFAG and BM.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

And when Uncle Sam pulls those rural PD’s funding?

He who pays the piper, calls the tune.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

They’re funded locally and at the state level.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Observer
4 years ago

Not really true among younger people. Orange County had a pro cop rally , and I doubt there was anyone under AARP age there. And Conservative younger people do have time with the economy and all they just lack the interest. Even our side is a little NWA was Right these days. And while as always I suggest lawful actions only and trying to prevent this, if it goes hot, we won’t be fighting in the streets. We’ll be fighting a dirty war against anyone supporting the other side in any way, the softer the target the better. Its also… Read more »

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
4 years ago

I am a boomer and I listen to a lot of boomers still with confidence in Trump although they really can’t tell you much of what Trump has done well other than be Trump. Most boomer relish their 401k and keep watching their 401k balance. The deal is the usual suspects and their cohorts in banking and the corporations are busy carrying off the bank vault to finance the boomers children’s future and the foundation of that 401k balance. Trumps odds are probably still at least 50/50 but he has done damage to his brand with some of us who… Read more »

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
4 years ago

millennials will be loving Boomers the minute it comes to collecting their inheritances that is largely what all of this about, at least from the standpoint of younger white people. They feel cheated but are just as greedy as everyone else, but most of the wealth is concentrated in the hands of older people and they are in effect shut out of the money system. Millennials are the children of boomers. To think, for them to even entertain the idea that they are really so much different, is asinine. As soon as they have the money they will buying those… Read more »

Simon Legree
Simon Legree
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Wait until they discover their boomer parents and other relatives have spent or else donated everything and there will be no inheritance for them. At least they’ll have their expensive social justice degrees to fall back on.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Simon Legree
4 years ago

Important (and oft overlooked) point on those worthless Liberal Arts degrees:

The Millenials who got them did so after being told by their Boomer parents “all you need to do is go get a degree and you’ll automatically have a job Waiting!”

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Simon Legree
4 years ago

You make me think of where I live. When I was starting out, everyone who was educated and white had to buy house in Westlake Village or Thousand Oaks. That’s where you went for the “good schools” if you lived in greater Los Angeles. Now that the kids are grown, none of them want to live there in the boring suburbs, and it’s like retirement village. I think the median age is 55. So all those formerly expensive houses have lost a ton of value. And I wouldn’t buy one. Kids won’t be happy when mom and dad leave to… Read more »

Hangnail
Hangnail
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

What’s really going to shatter the millennials is when upon the death of their last parent, usually mom, they learn she donated the entire estate to a pet cause of hers and left nothing for the kids. I’ve already witnessed this and the tears and overreaction were delicious.

b123
b123
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

The wealth transfer might not go as smoothly as expected.

President Abrams will certainly muscle in on the estates which are “systematically racist” and impose huge taxes.

Furthermore, all the good middle class jobs are going to H1bs, or other immigrants. Sure white millenials might live comfortably but they still have no career and no future.

People don’t realize how indescribably awful things are going to get. Likely eveything we plan for, our current financial and political system, etc. will be totally gone.

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Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  b123
4 years ago

If they realized that they would be banding together with other like minded people and would be preparing like there was no tomorrow…

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  b123
4 years ago

People seem to intuit it. The Boomer cucks for the most part do not, but there’s a substantial minority of that generation (mainly in the South and West) who have seen the handwriting on the wall for some time and they are mad. The dwindling Silents left, Gen X, the Millennials, and Z generally seem to understand, too.

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  b123
4 years ago

that right … after Stacy Abram takes charge, it’s gonna be “show me the 401k privilege!” “show me the $$$, Whitey!” That is one angry looking black woman.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Bumper sticker: “We spent our kids inheritance!” And they auctioned off our social cohesion and capital to China and the third world for the sake of quarterly bumps in the stock market.

Don’t get me wrong. The average younger person is just as culpable as the average boomer.

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3g4me
3g4me
4 years ago

Zman, we’re on the same page, but as you can see from the comments many others still harbor hopes. That somehow the reckoning can be delayed, that they can insulate themselves, that something can be salvaged. And they condemn as ‘defeatist’ anyone who tries to look at things objectively. I don’t pretend that a total collapse wont bring tremendous pain and suffering, but I’d still rather see it sooner than later. All those now trying to copy the White flight of the past have yet to face demographic reality. There are vibrant rapefugees in West Virginia and Idaho. People just… Read more »

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

But I’ve been told on good authority that the Saxon will begin to hate at any moment!!!!

b123
b123
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

He does – he hates himself.

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

But are we not factoring in who the Hispanics will side with? I don’t think that they necessarily want to be in league with the blacks. I’m thinking that they prefer to work n send money home, not to mention retire in their home country with American dollars.

Vizzini
Vizzini
4 years ago

I think you all confuse Trump being a failure with the nation being a failure. The nation has failed. No one man is capable of bailing it out. The Trump of right-wing dreams would never have gotten elected in the first place and would still have failed if he did — probably gotten himself successfully impeached. Why? Because half the citizens of the US and probably upwards of 90% of the political and ruling classes have no interest in saving the US. It’s one thing to save a people that want to be saved. It’s another to save people in… Read more »

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The Next 4 Years
The Next 4 Years
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

There may be some out there who are angry with Trump for failing to bring about some whiteopia, and I agree that it would be absurd to assume one “savior” could ever do that. But I think most of the anger with Trump is that he failed spectacularly on even the most modest, minor and mundane things, not that he failed to bring in some kind of new world order. From day one of the administration, Trump could have done more to protect his supporters both in person and online, and he did nothing. He could have reformed bureaucracies better… Read more »

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SidVic
SidVic
Member
4 years ago

As Zman notes alot could happen in the next 3-4 months. I think we are surrounded and the situation is dire. Good! Darkest before the dawn and all the other cliches. We are one massacre away from big changes. Currently a man cannot operate in this society with dignity. Hopefully the men are begining to notice. I to have my doubts about Trump (putting it mildly) but he is probaly the the luckiest SOB in history. He is positioned to have a chance to go down as one of the greats in history. Perhaps i am feverishly optimistic but i… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

I predict a Kievan Maidan, where snipers shoot into a woke crowd- and we get the blame.

It’s in the Wiemar playbook.

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Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

Weimar? LOL! No need to go that for back. ‘White supremacists’ did Minnesota dontcha know? And they collared a couple in Las Vegas and UK. The full force & assets of the alphabet agencies are being deployed to ferret out all these hideous supremacists that are causing all this violence at the peaceful protests man. Expect it to really go into high gear when they start sniping the crowds as you said. Alphabet agencies have a long history of setting up stooges for this type of work.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

I always secretly sorta envied my father and grandfather their shooting wars. “

Not only should you not envy them you should be full of rage that they were hoodwinked into fighting brother wars spilling European blood so that skinsuit wearing lizard bankers / industrialists could continue to operate across both continents with impunity. If anyone really knew the machinations that went on behind the scenes of both World Wars there wouldn’t be enough lampposts to support the full weight of it all. We backed the wrong side…

Falcone
Falcone
4 years ago

I think the energy at the next few rallies will tell the story.

it will also show just how organized are the Antifa people, if they can keep taking their act to the various stops on the road. And also keep up their energy.

we will see if Trump can tire them out or if he even has it in him. I wouldn’t be surprised also if Trump is playing possum a little and acting beaten down.

we shall see.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

The complete lack of violence and mayhem in Tulsa may encourage greater turnouts in future rallies. Also, silly though it undoubtedly is, the KOVID spike in Oklahoma doubtless deterred many older Trump supporters from attending. The Donald had a lot going against him last night. But he’s been the underdog for the last five years, so he’s used to it.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

1/3 of a stadium isn’t that bad really. How much did Biden get?

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

Hiden’ Biden is out of view.

abprosper
abprosper
4 years ago

Filling 1/3 of a stadium in the midst of a viral pandemic that is still killing people and widespread unrest isn’t terrible. Joe Biden got what 3 people? Now this doesn’t mean Trump isn’t weak or Q isn’t psyops bullshit but its a sign of the times. That said no one should have expected a 70+ hotelier to be the “The Guy” . t wasn’t in him. His job was to buy time. Any failure to that end is not his fault though. Covid 19 started to unravel the entire planet and while a very smart government maybe could have… Read more »

Vizzini
Vizzini
4 years ago

I think we’re done. Even on supposedly “conservative” sites I get roasted for pointing out that it is delusional to think that Trump’s path to victory is to just court Blacks harder. Egalitarianism is a helluva drug.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

those sites are filled with bandwagoners

Fact of life we have to deal with

But as soon as we start winning, whatever form that takes, the bandwagon fans will be coming over here and buying their Z Man coffee cups and baseball hats lol

Nah nah, I know Z Man will never stoop so low but just making a point

Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

If he peels some black votes off the Democrats, it helps him get elected.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Lorenzo
4 years ago

And if he sheds some White voters who think he cares more about Blacks and Israel than he does about his base, he loses the election.

Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

The typical white voter does not have the same antipathy to blacks and Jews that lots of people in the DR seem to.

And the DR is a lot thinner on the ground than typical white voters. The DR does not punch above its weight; it doesn’t punch at all.

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

Yep, I’m very black-pilled … the weakness shown during the rioting makes Whites look like big pussies and that includes Trump. And I hear the talk about some women being afraid, but I wonder if these women actually see the blacks as the real men who are willing to fight. We lost big-time. We lost respect and we have zero leverage … we got our asses kicked.

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

And I know that we can’t go into a liberal city and expect to prevail cuz we’d be fighting the rioters and the police. It’s really how the media portrayed the mayhem and then the groveling from whites afterward … and the damn kneeling. I felt sick to my stomach.

King Tut
King Tut
4 years ago

The lesson here is that we must not permit our judgment to be clouded or occluded by emotions. Anger, despair and rage are enemies to be avoided.

Now is the time for clear, cold thinking. Hate is good but only if properly channeled, controlled and directed. Hate and fury must become our servants, not our masters.

This war is not over. In fact, it has not even really begun.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  King Tut
4 years ago

The war is over. It was over the moment “conservatives” accepted the Left’s moral framework.

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

If the war is over, then what are we doing here? Why is zman bothering?

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  King Tut
4 years ago

we’re here because we are the last men standing

This is our team, the players we have to work with

We are the ones who bothered to show up

No one else is going to be coming to our games to see us play until we give them something they want to see and can get behind. And we have to figure out what that is. And sure, maybe in time we will be getting some of the big name fancy recruits. But for nw we are the Bad News Bears

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

“we’re here because we are the last men standing
This is our team, the players we have to work with..”

Then the war is not over.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  King Tut
4 years ago

Not even close

Moss
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Falcone, Perhaps your defeatist tone is unintentional. If it is, some encouragement. We, Our White People, are just beginning to wake up. This is far from over. The suck is just beginning. BUT, we will come through this valley, en force. I was mildly aware months ago what was happening. The clues were financial indicators that shook me from my hamster wheel. I trusted what I was smelling, seeing and hearing, and began to make huge changes to prepare for what was obviously a Depression. Now, I see the war coming is much larger and more dangerous (starving feels less… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Moss
4 years ago

I am not defeatist at all. My apologies if it comes off that way.

Rather, I am trying to express my opinion that we be proud of being here and part of a small select group and let’s recognize we are the only ones here right now so let’s work with what we have and get moving

I think that is exciting as hell.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Great comments. This isn’t over by a long shot. Hell I’m getting cross. And not alone.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

That would have been when? 1913?

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

There’s a lot of ruin in a society…but 1945 seems as good a starting point as any

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  King Tut
4 years ago

We have not yet begun to fight. But we will soon. We had better…

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

We have reached the point where it will be easier to build something new than save the old

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Absolutely. There’s no doubt about that.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Where’s our Mosely, our Enoch Powell?

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

Mosely and Powell were both trying to save Ancien Regimes.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Exactly, MWV. The expanse of the United States makes it a far better candidate for dissolution.

Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

Mosely!? Let’s scare the normies off by shilling for a wannabee Hitler.

Powell, yes, but Mosely?

Jaysus wept.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

I’ve got a buddy who believes Tucker Carlson has what it takes to be our bellwether. Course, he’d have to take one helluva pay cut.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
4 years ago

For a man who’s supposedly aiding and abetting the AWRs, they sure as hell do want him gone.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

I was confused by this for a long time. It wasn’t trump they hated but fact that the white working class elected him against thier wishes. They still show a bit of spirit. Also note that the only ones standing up to the protesters, and it ain’t alot of them, look scruffy as hell. that’s my beloved white working class.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

My hillbillies haven’t weighed in yet. I watch acutely. I really hope they don’t cuck.

Falcone
Falcone