The Sunset Of Trump

President Trump kicked off his re-election campaign with a rally in Tulsa Oklahoma on Saturday night. The most remarked feature of the event was the tiny crowd that bothered to show up. Even the Breitbart zombies could not help but notice that the arena was about a third of capacity. The other remarkable feature is that Trump pretty much used recycled material from the past, rather use the event to reframe his flailing election campaign. It was very low energy.

In fairness, the run-up to the event was marred by the mayor declaring a state of emergency, along with warnings that mobs of Antifa would be there to beat people trying to enter the arena. Even the dumbest white people are starting to realize that the police are there to protect the Left and their masters, so going to an event like this means running a gauntlet of protesters, while the cops cheer it on. Trump can forget about holding rallies this summer. The Left will not permit it.

Still, there is a marked lack of enthusiasm for Trump. By the standards of his rhetoric, his presidency has been a spectacular failure. His two great achievements are throwing open the prisons so violent blacks can prey on his voters and massive give-sways to the super-rich and global pirates. If you voted for Trump because of immigration, you have gotten less than nothing from him. Immigration has increased, work visas have increased and he bungled DACA into a permanent program.

The worst aspect of Trump and the one that will probably cost him the election is he keeps endorsing the morality of his opponents. In one breath he tells his voters he will fight the Left. In the next breath he tells them the Left is standing on the moral high ground and he worships at their feet. DACA is a perfect example. He could have rescinded it and been done with it. Instead he spent years telling us he cared more about these invaders than the Democrats. The court believed him.

If Trump was actually fighting for his issues, his lack of accomplishment could be turned into an asset. People can respect a guy who keeps fighting against a system that is as thoroughly corrupt as Washington. That’s not the case here. Trump endorsed Mitt Romney for Senate, hired John Bolton, opposes Jeff Sessions. He has spent his entire time in office singing the praises of blacks, Hispanics and migrants, while never mentioning white people, the people who voted for him.

At this point, a reasonable person has to wonder if Trump was not a Manchurian candidate all along. If in 2016 you were hoping to derail white populism one more time as you slammed the prison doors shut, what would you do different? Millions of white man hours were invested in Trump that could have gone to building a second party or building a legitimate alternative to the ruling class. Trump was actually a delaying action all along, so the ruling class could finish their work.

Now, a lot will happen in the next four and half months, so it is foolish to write-off Trump completely at this point. He is running against a dementia patient. Lost in all the tumult of late is the fact that Biden has declined even further since we last saw him. By the fall the choice could very well be a terrible disappointment or a man unsure of where he is at the moment. That and the background could be blacks looting and burning white neighborhoods in the suburbs while the cops laugh about it.

Trump can also help his cause by firing the Hillary Clinton supporter he has running his campaign at the moment. That’s right. His campaign manager, Brad Parscale, did not vote for him in 2016. He could also sideline the Chabad agent assigned to him. That would be Jared Kushner, the genius mind behind throwing open the prison doors so BLM can riot in the streets. Kushner really does resemble a lizard person, so maybe Alex Jones is right about that one.

A campaign centered on reviving the economy and restoring law and order would at least have some coherence. He could then run against both parties as responsible for the mayhem we are seeing. It would be cynical and dishonest, but it would probably work to re-energize his campaign. It would also force Biden to defend the establishment and the current mayhem. Forcing Dementia Joe to speak in public should be Trump’s number one priority throughout the summer.

Whether or not Trump does anything to save himself is an open question at this point, as he looks like a beaten man. His rally in Tulsa was a dud and it was clear he knew it as soon as he waddled on the stage. He was once again setup to fail by people around him, people who worked hard to prevent him from winning in 2016. At this stage, it would be remarkable if Trump realized he has to stop trusting his enemies and doubting his friends. It’s possible, but the window is closing.


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Grandpa Lampshade
Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

Not to boomer bash but Trump does what he does because he is a quintessential boomer in his views of the world and the system as a whole. In other words, he doesn’t see the system itself as being corrupt to the core. Instead, he clings to the illusion that it’s just being prevented from working correctly (instead of accepting the reality that the system is working as designed) by a few “bad apples”. Again I think a part of this is simply age. By their very nature, old people do not want to turn the apple cart over and… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

Yeah but the aging hippies are old too but they don’t want to tinker with the system. Supposedly they want to blow it up or have their young cronies do it for them. but if Trump still doesn’t get it, that the system is rotten to the core, then it’s a failing of his. Maybe because he’s super rich that if the system is rotten then it means he may be too since he thrived in it and is a product of it, so therefore it can’t be rotten in his mind. but it’s just bizarre all around. We have… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

I think the biggest joke we’ll find out one day is that Trump’s “wealth” was just an interlocking set of leveraged loans. Exactly like…the system. Replete with pure fraud on Wall Street, filtering all the way down to main street. If “the system” could actually occupy talking meat, it would be Trump.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

I think the biggest joke we’ll find out one day is that Trump’s “wealth” was just an interlocking set of leveraged loans. 

That’s practically everybody’s wealth. We won’t find out who’s actually rich until the banking system stops working.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

Divide everything by 20

That’s pretty much what everything is worth in terms of actual cash since there is only about $15 trillion of it and yet the appraised “values” of everything from houses to stocks is like $300 trillion

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

They still think the commies are going to nuke us if we don’t buy the world a Coke. Hard to beat childhood programming.

I was thinking about that the other day. They had MLK and the moon landing. My generation had Rodney King and the Challenger disaster. To give only 2 examples. It’s no wonder I find their perspective so hard to relate to.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

We spent our childhoods losing our fathers and becoming latch-key kids. I can still remember walking home from school and hearing about the space shuttle blowing up and also the mayor of my city bombing a city block (the MOVE disaster). This along with books and movies about the impending nuclear holocaust. But at least we got to see the Berlin Wall fall. Gen-X was the last generation to experience a major positive event which changed the world.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

From what I saw on my cul-de-sac, mom generally pushed dad out of the picture because he was a workaholic who didn’t pay enough attention to her, as she was off jazzercising her a ss off when he actually was home to pay attention to her. Driving home “late” in her new 3 Series, angry that he didn’t make enough to buy her the 5 Series.

Simon Legree
Simon Legree
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

You have just described my childhood to a tee. At least I learned how to cook for myself. Fellow Gen X.

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

You don’t count every new app and site that comes along? Major, positive and world-changing all, better faster and cheaper every few years! You’d better take your Soma and rethink your position.

Vizzini
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

MOVE disaster

I don’t remember a lot about that, but as far as I remember, those guys had it coming. One of the few times in history that having a Black mayor was beneficial, because only a Black mayor could get away with that kind of slaughter.

Simon Legree
Simon Legree
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

The mayor ordered a police helicopter to air drop a padlocked satchel which contained twenty-five pounds of C-4 and a timed detonator. Mussed their hair up a bit and resulted in one heck of a fireworks show. Coming to organizing meetings for Our Thing soon except delivery will be by drone. “This is Dominos, your pizza delivery has arrived, please open the door.” KABLAMMM! (an Israeli technique)

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Simon Legree
4 years ago

MOVE took over a building in a rather violent fashion and was nooisy and public so the cities Black mayor wisely dealt with it.
Our Thing is going to be a hell of lot more discrete and if it every goes to that, there are plenty of ways to return the favor.

Simon Legree
Simon Legree
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

Re your second para, I am skeptical for many reasons, although I do pray you are correct and I am mistaken. In my neck of the woods, actually the core of a major metro, it’s extraordinary when I can identify a supporter of Our Thing. Typically, the rare maga attire wearer is mere edgy rebel and not a true believer or useful ally. I have helped convert a few but the numbers are not encouraging. Most folks just keep their heads down and parrot the narrative. Time will tell.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

Our thing will be…

Ah, but their thing IS…

Simon Legree
Simon Legree

Our thing will be…
Ah, but their thing IS…

Their thing is old and decrepit and our thing, provided it can sustain and grow, should have the vitality theirs lacks. I don’t see them rejuvenating a base anytime soon.

Time will tell.

Now whip it
Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to detect it
It’s not too late
To whip it
Whip it good
When a good time turns around
You must whip it
You will never live it down
Unless you whip it
No one gets away
Until they whip it

abprosper
abprosper

We know what it is, a great place to have a family but its not exactly easy getting the Right to cooperate. Beyond that, a lot of us have no idea how to have a proper family, lacking fathers, mothers, siblings and often other relatives as well. So many relationships have been messed up far before the Internet area that its hard to have a basis and to make it work. If you want the toll of modernity, try this. I know a family that went from sizable with high survival rates split off and than from a recoverable 3… Read more »

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

May I suggest you consider fighting for it?

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  lurking_in_hope
4 years ago

Its not a fight where arms matter. If I had the powers of some superhero and became Justice Lord Prosper, nothing would change.
Short of rape gangs ala Nicolae Ceaușescu nothing can cause a fertility rate to go up till it does.
Religion has been tried, failed. Short term wealth redistribution, failed ,Jobs programs, failed.
Every nation, every culture will fail.
Maybe, maybe with an extreme amount of effort we can reach a stable state or a slight growth that is about as good as it gets.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

I mean actually fight.
That’s usually a precondition for reproduction – staying alive.
(Iphone is weird now with new page. Apparently Bold until the first period or sentance. Strange)

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

Speculation: increasing dystopia, 1984 or North Korea style to end-game, possibly increasing automation ( = less people needed). At some point, call it The Fall, massive die-off due to system failure and/or deliberate genocide. Remnant populaton perhaps 1/10 or 1/20 of final peak, subsistence near-stone age. Time line, don’t know.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

The ability for anyone to maintain anything in modernity is in decline in real time. I’ve seen it day after day. The dystopia goes with it as we won’t even be able to manage an industrial society on any scale much less something that complex. Now a massive decline in population by 80% would put as at 1850 levels, just sustainable , 90% about 1700. That we can sustain. On a long time line, a couple of centuries or less in theory, the US will be a very White, very Christian nation. No predciction this far ahead is realistic but… Read more »

lo-tech
lo-tech
Reply to  Simon Legree
4 years ago

The MOVE thing was hilarious and cathartic. As recently as the 1980s these big city police departments didn’t kid-glove it with Black militants. But from the MOVE thing came the Mumia Abu-Jamal thing, and the Philly police force has long since been proper “cucked’ as the kids say. They don’t get out of their squad cars these days.

SixxSigma
SixxSigma
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Easy tiger, your Reaganism is showing. East Germany went from the frying pan of communistic suppression and into the fire of western racial mongrelization and destruction of ethnic pride. Note that while many eastern bloc nations labored under the yoke of communism, they remained ethnically homogeneous. “Big government” is not evil so long as it works toward the interest of the volk.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  SixxSigma
4 years ago

However true that might be, that is in hindsight. At the time, it was seen as a giant positive world altering event. It was on TV for like a year. It was a big deal and it had an effect on us. It was super-optimism is a time that already had so much optimism songs like “The future is so bright, I gotta wear shades”

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

Absolutely. I’ve been dealing with this forever. And a boomer will literally finger wag to you about how they “bootstrapped” it. They were handed a country that was number one, or near number one in every metric. Bootstrap my a ss. To this day they believe their own hype.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

In Boomer’s defense, “Muh Bootstaps” were still a real thing when they were in their teens and 20’s.

My frustration with them is not understanding that the world has changed.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

In 1970, if you told some dirty begging hippy to get a job, it was an entirely legitimate insult. Good jobs were low hanging fruit.

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Boomers (I’m one) are more interested in getting that SS check and gliding in for a smooth landing. Don’t give it to them!

Philly
Philly
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Frack you, I paid FICA for 45 years so yes, I like the SS check. I hope you don’t get one.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Philly
4 years ago

I’ve paid it for 23 years and counting. Something like 10 cents of every dollar I’ve ever made, and I’ve never had illusions of getting a penny of it back when I retire. Millions can say the same.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

Yeah I love it when I see comments about how those snowflake kids aren’t inheriting a thing from me! I’ve started pointing out that the kids aren’t even going to inherit a nation from them. Zero self awareness. It’s astonishing.

Vizzini
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

Time for me to step in again with the “generational accusations” bullshit is bullshit. People in each generation behave as they have been raised and as the times nudged them. Most people aren’t really good at striving against the tide of humanity. Boomers — you’d act just like Millennials and Gen-Zers if you were raised like them in the same circumstances. Gen-Zers and Millennials, the same in reverse. People suck and are largely short-sighted. Major revelation. Try reading the Bible sometime. The authors had that nailed several thousand years ago. But since people suck and are largely short-sighted, every new… Read more »

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

I try to be even-handed about this stuff. And frankly I’m most critical of my own generation for being puppeteered, which is pathetic. But all the same I get frustrated hearing what I’ve known for most of my life (re: being cut out of the will) as if it was our fault. We’ve always known about demographic replacement, national bankruptcy, being priced out of our home so it can be sold at a tidy profit, etc. It’s adding insult to injury. So good on you for not rubbing it in. What the right needs to realize is that hope of… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

I would just say help them out now if you can Vizzini so that you might get them to Self Sufficiency a lot faster because who knows how much time we really have…

Vizzini
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Oh, I have helped them out now.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Do you get the feeling the Coup has already happened?! Maybe during the Wuflu lockdown They just took over. What do think a coup is supposed to look like anyway? Now consolidating power. Who needs rule of law. Notice now a new proclamation via a crisis gets made, the media blasts it out everywhere, then the Karens-Blue Haired Cat Wahmyn, Orcs, Trannys, Soyboys beat the rest of us into submission. No need for legislation. Kiss their feet! Anyone noticing the 2030 The Great Reset of the World Economic Forum agenda current now on Youtube. Their agenda is clear and right… Read more »

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lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 years ago

No coup. This is collapse. The only coup was the Army refusing to follow the President’s orders. That’s the limit of what can be done by the DS, and it suffices. We have a collapsed National Government that can’t squash an uprising of sub-par enemies. The truth is we’re past the Turning Point but the enemy ran out of Troops at their own Turning point. This is a setback for them, there’s no one in their way, not officially. This is actually what Failing State looks like at the beginning. There are no cops and no soldiers standing in their… Read more »

lo-tech
lo-tech
Reply to  lurking_in_hope
4 years ago

Sentiment understood but what you’ve written is a bit much. As Adam Smith wrote “There is much ruin in a nation.” The reference here might be a place like Argentina. Hasn’t been a normal functioning country for decades, seesaws back and forth between socialism and free market liberalism (i.e. what passes for the “political right” down there), defaults on its national debt every decade or so. Periodic civil unrest, high crime, but it’s affluent enough that things just kind of go along. Long story short, yes America is maybe a failed state in the Argentina sense of that term, not… Read more »

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

Vizzini is right, generational terms are marketing terms, and in truth really only apply to the elites and the 10% strivers underneath.

I know plenty of good, based Boomers, mind you often Vietnam Vets.
Same with X-ers, same with Z, same with whatever we’re on. These terms are used by marketing for those who want to buy into – and mortgage themselves to – a system we are watching collapse in real time.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  lurking_in_hope
4 years ago

NAXALT goes without saying, yet I think there’s some utility in the idea of generations. I can’t honestly relate to postwar America any more than someone born since 9/11 can relate to the 80s/early 90s that shaped my outlook. And for my part, I can’t imagine never knowing peacetime, or being plugged into the matrix from birth.

Philly
Philly
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

I’m a boomer. When we got married, my wife and I had $1,500 between us, college degrees that we both worked to pay for and a ’68 Camaro. We came from lower middle class families, so no financial help there.
We had three kids. Paid college tuition for two of them and the third got a full boat academic scholarship.
We retired as millionaires. This was all due to hard work, nothing else. So, yes I believe in bootstrap, you ass.

John Carter
John Carter
Reply to  Philly
4 years ago

You don’t see how you stepped right into the boomer stereotype that was waiting for you. this is something we can never do for the left. Z man draws this parallel with the Hitler costume on stage that one of our guys “agrees” to wear. the best thing that can happen when the left storms the “nazi” high ground is for no one to be waiting for them on top. Any other action lends legitimacy to the system because it justifies the left’s reactions in the public mind. Just like Mr. Boomer here seems to justify some latent anti-boomer resentment.… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  John Carter
4 years ago

After curve flattening and now rolling over to rioting blacks, yeah, a little bit of resentment. It’s time to get a grip on this thing.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

I’m a late boomer (1961). Your comparison is partly correct, but the US space program had its fatalities (Apollo 1 fire) and, unless I’m mistaken, all the rioting Rodney King (1993) to date doesn’t compare to the riots of the 1960s. And, unfortunately, there are still plenty of nukes in the world. Even though I live in the sticks in Florida, I am walking distance to what was once a “secondary nuclear target.” No idea today, but it is a regional airport and a National Guard site. But I’d rather go with a bang than a whimper 🙂

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

Did Papa Joe’s ever re-open after that fire?

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

My perception of these events, and I’m pretty sure it’s typical, was that we’d passed the peak. The game-changing promise of science was about to decline, so was the promise of racial harmony. This was about the time disillusionment was starting to settle in permanently.

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

You can choose any date for the the peak of a civilization. I’d add to your comments, my vote is for 1970 (+/-). The USA had won WW II 25 years earlier. The first Boomers were 20-30s. The USA reached many of its peaks economcially around 1970. We’d just landed on the Moon. Post-WW II, we had made great strides forward in Civil Rights, it seemed. We really thought The Negro could finally take his place as a fully equal citizen. Hell, we were on the gold standard until 1970! Yes, there were doubts and sign of rot by early… Read more »

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

1970 sounds good to me. The 70s are reputed to have been a pessimistic decade. Then we bounced back in the 80s and 90s, and then we went off a cliff in 2001 and haven’t recovered, except maybe briefly in 2016.

This could be the End, or the beginning of a new era. All I know is that the America that was is gone. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

https://youtu.be/MJRF8xGzvj4

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BerndV
BerndV
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

I was seven in 1970. The country was still nearly 90% white. Everyone understood that blacks were inferior but there seemed to be some hope that we could coexist in relative peace. Third world immigration was not on anyone’s radar yet. Being on the gold standard meant that financial profligacy would always be self limiting. I believe that it will be the fiscal irresponsibility of government at every level that will ultimately crash the system. Federal debt to GDP cannot grow to the sky. There will be a reckoning and it will historical.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

I always had fairly low expectations for Trump, but for different reasons. I thought one guy just can’t do that much and that he was going to face serious opposition no matter who won 2016 in the Congress. The one thing I did not think Trump would do, was give a bunch of never Trump traitors and cucks jobs in his administration. He should have turned to people like Pat Buchanan. I didn’t think Trump would be his own worst enemy. I don’t mind things like Q. It does our side no good to OD on black pills everyday. As… Read more »

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JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

I laugh and laugh every time one turns on him, and they all do, Bolton being the latest. It also speaks to what an A-hole he must be in person as well.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

As John Donne wrote: No man is a island.
And yes if the system collapsed Our Side would be no closer to winning and we’d be much worse off, that’s what Our Side doesn’t; get given how badly whites are fragmented.

We have no Paine, Washington or even a Smedly Butler to step up.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

That is because the US is a fake nation. Its needs to go away and be replaced with smaller nations purpose built to suit the needs of the people in them.
If things go to hell , well be more like Chaz when the time comes. He’s a half rate warlord by our standards but being a warlord still merits respect.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

Well, Raz is out in the street doing his thing and we’re still just sitting here on the Internet…

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

I don’t think the US is a fake nation even though I sometimes think we Americans are incompatible. But I do think the nation has been subverted and buried under a flood of immigrants. When you look at the things politicians were saying pre WWII it’s clear we got hijacked.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

True but repatriating 50 million people won’t fix the problem that Freemen and Damn Yankees should not share a polity.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

This is the system collapsing.
What are you expecting?
The Rapture?
Cannibalism?

Not yet. Get hungry enough… mmmm…

Apex Predator
Apex Predator

Stop shitting the place up with the bold writing. It does nothing but make people skip over your post, it as about as clever AS WRITING EVERYTHING IN CAPITAL LETTERS.

Just stop, or go away. I am 100% certain I speak for everyone here but unlike most people I am very open about calling out fuckery immediately both to my blessing & curse IRL.

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Start with fucking yourself, Apex Pussy. The new Z interface only allows Bold or Italics from certain devices. I already told Z, he said fine if that’s the only way it will work.
Sorry, I didn’t realize this was such a big part of your life, lol.
Perhaps soon you’ll have bigger worries than font sizes, meanwhile get some real complaints.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

I love the word “fuckery.” I first saw it in a Ursula K. LeGuin SF novel. In that world, it actually was a building for coitus 😀

Brooklyn Dave
Brooklyn Dave
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Don’t assume you speak for everyone here. You are sounding like a “Karen.”

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Brooklyn Dave
4 years ago

Its not the content but the format. Yelling is rude.

John Carter
John Carter
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

I disagree – I don’t see our options as so limited. No one steps up now because there is no room to do so. It’s just as well for the time being because what the regime needs more than anything are enemies. Don’t provide them with that.

Anon
Anon
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Q is no more a morale booster than morphine is a cure. It is an invitation to check out and seek escapist respite in spy novels.
As to the merits of accelerationism, it is looking less unattractive by the day as people’s sunk cost attachment to the status quo grows weaker. Every one has a different threshold below which they would pronounce the system untenable and collapse-worthy. Once critical mass is reached, the benefits of organizing your life outside of it outweigh the risk of forgoing its extant benefits.

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tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Anon
4 years ago

It’s not really sunk cost, it’s future cost. The cost of living would rise exponentially and at a far lower level. We do not make hardly anything. What we do make, outside of things like packaged food and the like is high dollar equipment like planes, giant machines for production and military equipment. The basic underlying industry doesn’t exist and is gone too. The expertise has been lost as well. If we could not just print money people in other nations will take, our standard of living would collapse. And an industry for selling our used stuff to foreigners would… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Yup, the system is more than ready and willing to make examples of any pesky, “white supremacists,” via the police with military assistance as needed.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Stop worring about your standard of living . Its too damned close to money cuckingI If you have bullets, beans, band-aids and balaclavas you’ll be fine. What does have to be preserved is a chip industry for natural defense and nukes. Everything else can be rebuilt over a few decades and if people are too hooked on grifting or too truculent to pay decent wages than we’ll do with a lot less. We can deal with the Po Po if they become a huge issue too along with the media if it comes to that as well. Right now we… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

When I say “standard of living,” in addition to cars and washing machines, teebees, sail foams and the like, I am also referring to housing, clothing, energy and other necessities of life. Our society is built entirely around cars and plentiful energy. Energy prices will go up and people will lose their homes and apartments. Most people absolutely need their cars. Those $600 plus payments are hard to make when you don’t have a job. Oil and natural gas are easily exported. Of course, so is food. We import and export huge amounts of food. If foreigners can pay higher… Read more »

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

“We import and export huge amounts of food. If foreigners can pay higher prices, there can easily be food shortages here or a lot of people will be simply priced out”

Last year, there was a butter shortage in Europe (I don’t remember why); American producers started shipping butter to Europe, which created a minor shortage in the USA. Butter went from about $3.00 per pound to about $6.00 per pound.
During the past six months, the price has come down, and once again can be found for about $3.00 per pound.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

If (when) the Dollar finally collapses, your scenario is plausible. Also, the value of American labor would crash. This might be reflected in runaway domestic inflation. At first it would seem that cheap American labor would make us competitive in manufacturing, but the problem is a lot of our manufacturing moved away to cheap labor countries, that would be probably still be cheap after the USA’s downward “adjustment” 🙁

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Gentlemen,

This is system collapse.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator

See above re: your inane use of bold characters. You’re welcome.

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

See above, it only works in bold from iphone, now get a real life and some real complaints.
Apex Pansy “oh the font is bold ”
Try skimming, and get a life off line.

Bubette Salaam
Bubette Salaam
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

“The one thing I did not think Trump would do, was give a bunch of never Trump traitors and cucks jobs in his administration.” That’s exactly the argument I try to make. Trump loyalists: “He keeps getting blocked by swamp people, it’s not his fault.” Me: “That’s true, but then why does he hire swamp people? Hard to complain about Bolton if you HIRED him!” Trump loyalists: “Well, it’s Jared who’s leading him astray, Jared keeps forcing all these awful people on him.” Me: “That’s true too, but then why doesn’t Trump boot Jared if Jared’s candidates keep stabbing Trump… Read more »

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Bubette Salaam
4 years ago

I don’t want to hear any more excuses.”

I was waiting for somebody, anybody in that Tulsa crowd to cry, “BUT WHAT ABOUT US”

(the great Bubette Salaam! A fan thanks you for your wonderful twitter feed)

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Bubette Salaam
4 years ago

Trump blew it when he didn’t clean house and hire loyal people when he took office.

It would not have been possible to question that move because it is a totally normal thing for an incoming executive.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

This is true.
But he would have had to fire eveyone in the Executive Branch. That’s 3 million.
And they can only be fired for cause.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator

Ok, now you are starting to piss me off. More of this and I’ll call for your banning. I hate when people do this on Disqus too, I 100% don’t need to see it every 3rd topic here too FFS.

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

You did piss me off for a second, but now I pity you. This is vssx, by the way.
You poor man. I will pray for you.

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

Trump couldn’t find anyone competent and with pull in government that wasn’t a never Trumper. The MAGA types aren’t competent at governance, and the Civil Service certainly wasn’t interested in showing them how.

There is no way to legally “clean house” in government if their not a political appointee. They have Civil Service and legal protections since FDR.

In the end the interests of our government and elites are at direct odds with the rest of the nation, and an election couldn’t solve our problems.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

Wild Geese, As some observe, there are protections against removal of Executive branch workers, and only “for cause” removals can be made to stick. All well and good, but don’t try and pin it on policies of Roosevelt, and JFK authorizing unionization of Federal employees; they merely built upon a toxic precedent established early in the Republic. I refer to Madison vs. Marbury, in which Madison was forbidden by the Supreme Court, led by John Marshall, to remove Marbury from his Federal post. Marshall, a militant Federalist party operative, acted to make it impossible for Madison, a Democratic Republican, to… Read more »

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
Reply to  Bubette Salaam
4 years ago

Inside Baseball; someone in the Administration drew a Venn Diagram; 3 elements Never Trump MAGA Crazy Competent at Government The problem is they can’t find competent people who aren’t never Trumpers, or they are rare. He’s stocked his administration with plenty of loyalists – but they don’t understand the machine. And they’re often enough – Crazy. Pick any number of these women. BIOT there are people in his admin that would make your wildest dreams come true on immigration. But they can’t get anything done. In truth we need a Putin, this is the Combo Gorbachev Yeltsin. You should also… Read more »

Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Let’s say Q had been real. People should have thought “great, we’ve got a mole in the machine working for us, let’s see what we can do on the outside of the machine to seal its fate.” This is actually how you win wars. Different groups working together to encircle and crush an enemy. Only in Rambo movies do you just have one superhuman guy who fights the whole war for you. As the Soup Nazi might say – no exploding arrows for you! So of course it wasn’t real. I said yesterday here that I’m now a rage Trumper.… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Which is why I advocate for building our own system so we don’t have to rely it now and we won’t be brought down by it when it collapses…

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

The system is collapsing before you. This is what national collapse looks like. The only thing holding the nation together nationally is the enemy ran out of troops at their own turning point.

Leroy
Leroy
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

The problem with Q is that it is likely it’s an FBI op in order to channel populist energy into thinking he’s being held back and is fighting day and night to defend the country when in reality Trump never had any intention of delivering on any of his promises. America is a portfolio asset at this point and the American people only ever get two things no matter what the politicians say: neoliberalism and Zionism. That’s it.

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Hun
Hun
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

People who make fun of Q and stuff like it have a fantasy that people lose faith, the systems collapses and then we win.

No idea where you get that. I see Q people as delusional and sedated, but weirdly smug morons incapable of critical thinking. The system collapse thing does not follow.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago
  1. Lose faith
  2. system collapses
  3. Profit
JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

Fact check-True. And a lot of these boomers have a lot to lose. Houses stuffed to the rafters with trinkets they’ve been buying since the 70’s. You practically have to walk sideways when going through a boomer’s house these days. And when they do have to downsize it’s like that Steve Martin scene from The Jerk where he keeps grabbing things on the way out the door. “This is all I need.” The “conservative” boomers have no fight in them at all. They just want to stuff their faces at Mimi’s Cafe and go back to their 5000 square foot… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

You conflate age with cohort. As has been stated, show any significant division of the “Boomers” you decry doing “the right thing” as you see it. People get old, if they’ve been fortunate to prepare a reasonable retirement, they don’t particularly want to rock the boat. It’s difficult to begin again at an old age, the energy isn’t there and return to the economy difficult. However, I agree with others that “finger wagging” and admonishment to pick oneself up by their own bootstraps displays a profound ignorance and arrogance. I also maintain that I’ve never, ever, heard such from any… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Are you kidding me? I hear it all this time. And if you’re not going to rock the boat that’s fine, but to be utterly brainwashed so late in life is sad. So little of the country’s true problems his home with them.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

+1 for your sardonic quit 🙂 Here is a historical question for homework: Why does the boomer live (perhaps alone, as I do, but in 1500 SF) in a detached single family home out in the suburbs? Why doesn’t he live in a smaller, cozy home in the big city, perhaps one that was built in the 1920s and tastefully maintained? In otherwords, very likely the kind of home his grandparents owned or rented? Or, if of more modest means, why doesn’t he live in an apartment building in the city? Hint: find out how that old city neighborhood changed… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

There’s plenty of housing options that don’t involve being in a walk-up from the 20s. I’m just saying where their hearts are and have always been. Boomers have always been about quantity over quality, even in their eating habits and housing. They would rather have a monument to sheet rock than things that are well crafted and tasteful. They would rather have the Golden Corral buffet with unlimited cornbread than something tasteful down the street. Of course I’m speaking generally which is illegal these days. There are exceptions.

Cerulean
Cerulean
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

So it comes down to differences in esthetic sensibilities?

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Cerulean
4 years ago

Yes it does.Regional sensibilities. Am formerly from the People’s Republic of the Bay Area. A majority of people are or were Food Snots. From 25 years ago: “Try Acme sourdough-the best! Have you been to Alice Water’s Chez Panisse lately? The Cheeseboard Collective on Shattuck Avenue. Fabulous Ridge Lytton Springs zinfandel. Well, prefer the latest Silver Oak cab.” Now in Mormon Wally World: “Oh boy! A Golden Corral here in town. Can’t have a Mormon temple without a Golden Corral! Pass the green jello mixed with Cool Whip! Slurp! Let’s Eat-Eat then on to endless desserts! Cards with the ladies… Read more »

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 years ago

You win the internet today for that.

Philly
Philly
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 years ago

Are you off your meds?

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

The answer to Bens question is Orcs.

What do I win?

Or is that another one of those trick questions?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
4 years ago

You are correct! No reward was offered, but you do get an “A” on your work! 🙂

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

If you own it then why don’t you sell it and come to a small town and live in a 800 to 1000 square foot home with a large yard and good-sized shop on it…That would be a better lifestyle…

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

ever hear the song “Home for Sale” by Dwight Yoakam?

I think you would like it. Captures so much of what you are talking about

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Just heard it. It’s great.

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

“Not to boomer bash but …” … followed by guess what. I don’t disagree with you about a lot of boomers that I read about or see comments from on-line. The media, print-press, Hollywood, and so forth have been pushing the hippy boomer set for 50 years. But, there is a set of southerners born about the same time (boomers in other words) who know that the USA government is a creation of Lucifer. In fact, I have known damn few people my age who did not hate the government. Especially the f’ing feds. If the first civil war comes… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 years ago

As I lay me down to sleep,
Lord let me take some with me to the deep

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 years ago

I’m 53 but of the same mind as you

I have despised the government pretty much my whole adult life. I was raised in the south. And watching white pols from the south kiss the big yankee butt always infuriated me

Anything for a buck and NYC approval, white southerners be damned. See Northam

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

What the h*ll are you doing in CA then Brother where government is in every aspect of your life…

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 years ago

This is absolutely true. Some Southern Boomers bought into the Reagan hoopla, but they were a distinct minority. Most I’ve known hate the United States government with the heat of five white suns. Even their children and grandchildren still are less likely to buy into negrophillia and the anti-racism religious cult. Let’s hope if things get sporty those Boomers South still can get up and get moving. Many are anti-fragile and fully capable of what would be necessary. I asked several over the years the reason they hated the federal government so much, and the common response: bussing. It is… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 years ago

Mark, I hail from New Jersey (southern NJ), and back in the times of the WBS or the WoNA, my state was full of Copperheads, willing to let the Southern States go their separate way. Well, that wasn’t permitted, and here we are, down the rathole Lincoln dug. Not sure that a latterday conflict would be civil war, or war(s) of secession again. Our (((neocons))) wanted to break up Russia into smaller, weaker bits, but fortunately Putin and patriotic Russians thwarted the plan, and Russia remains a complex, but still integral nation, powerful enough to not be prey to the… Read more »

Archer
Archer
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

Gee, I am a boomer and I saw things were off the rails 15 years ago. Bush 2 had just won re-election and had majorities in both houses. I thought here comes the fulfillment of conservative principles about small government. What we got was the further centralization of education, a new handout (prescription drugs), low cost loans in the name of an “ownership society,” which led to the housing collapse, a fantasy that we could plant democracy in the Middle East, and a tiny tax cut. Now, looking back, I can see how silly our generation was. Let me count… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

Grandpa, I donated to you after your doxxing. I hope you and your family are well.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

This is a great description of the perspective of my Silent generation parents, who both voted for Trump.

“Oh, things will go back to normal, it always does!”

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

I guess the “Pendulum Fallacy” is a subtype of the “Normalcy Bias Fallacy.”

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

Methinks old people are liable have normalcy bias a bit more than radicals.

Philly
Philly
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

The “old system” bought more benefits to more people than any other in history. Until I hear details about another I’ll stick with this one, warts and all, thank you. BTW, don’t tell me that Socialism or Communism are better as I have personal experience with both and know that they suck.

Brooklyn Dave
Brooklyn Dave
Reply to  Grandpa Lampshade
4 years ago

Hey Grandpa, glad to see your still struttin your stuff. Always liked your various commentaries. I too am beginning to get weary of DJT and seeing that there’s a lot to be desired. I pray that in reality he’s not a Wizard of Oz character that was put behind the curtain by the Establishment to swing us around a few times by the short hairs as the far left finishes taking over the country. The Boomer thing is a part of it as is the staunch support of the Zionist entity. After four years in office it really doesn’t look… Read more »

Screwtape
Screwtape
4 years ago

On the individual level I see the Trump delaying action playing out with increasing frequency. The anarcho-tyranny of BLM/Antifa is penetrating deeper into the lives of the slumbering masses but there is nowhere for them to plant those seeds. Orange man bad and orange man lowest black unemployment leaves them in a dark alley with nowhere to go. Just yesterday a super lefty acquaintance was all worked up because her yoga studio got cancelled by a couple of rabid sjw lgbtpocs. All those freaks had to do was facebook post about how the owner had made them feel unwelcome. The… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Screwtape
4 years ago

Wow. That made my heart leap with hope. We don’t need to sell them- they need to sell themselves.

Here’s a very short, fun bit of why we may be blessed in full measure to live in historic times– a possible replay, and a rather Indo-European Fathers Day to our ancestors:

https://mobile.twitter.com/OakGwove/status/1274422678569525251

(Update: woops, touch the vid tweet itself for the fun comments. The ones on that^ page are irredeemably racist.)

https://mobile.twitter.com/OakGwove/status/1274422678569525251

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Whitney
Member
4 years ago

Yesterday, I read Lawrence Austers’ “The Path to National Suicide: An Essay on Immigration and Multiculturalism ” I got to say, I had the most surreal feeling reading that while all the statues were toppling. Anyway I think it’s time to get rid of trump. Let’s go ahead and get this show on the road. The existential threat that white people are facing won’t be realized until it gets a little more obvious. Some of the white people are going to sacrifice themselves and that’s fine, they’ll be in the front lines and they’ll be cut down first but seeing… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Whitney
4 years ago

The BBC: “Meanwhile, in yesterday’s largely peaceful stabbings…”

Curt
Curt
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

I suppose it’s good that they report bad incidents. You have people in the US who believe Europe is more violent than the US because the stabbings, shootings, “random” attacks in the US are often not reported at all.
You have to go to the Daily Mail to find coverage of these crimes in the US.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Whitney
4 years ago

That’s a fantastic essay, right up there with the Enoch Powell “River of Blood” speech, or the book “Camp of the Saints.”
I encourage owning hard copies of each..the burning of books is right around the corner. I call it my “Forbidden Books Bookshelf” (which surprisingly has gone up considerably in value as publishers signal they won’t dare publish bad think like Camp of the Saints again).
No candidate, vote, policy or awakening is going to change the vector this country is on. Despair, however is a sin. No one can control what’s going on in your own head.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  ProZNoV
4 years ago

It is good. I bought it hard copy. $127 that was kind of pricey for an essay but it was worth it. And I tried to buy the camp of saints but it has actually gone out of my price range since he died. My entire library is the philosophy history, knowledge, and religion of our people. I feel like I’m building it for someone else. I’m not sure who.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Whitney
4 years ago

Nevermind, it was only $55 Now it feels like a bargain! I have a huge collection of out-of-print books

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Whitney
4 years ago

I’ve been going back & forth about this in my mind. I’m starting to lean towards a Biden vote because why draw out the misery any longer? It is very clear that your average white american is a complete fucking retard with no understanding of well… anything. History, racial IQ, who actually makes the trains run on time / delivers the food / electricity / etc, what the actual function of government is, what happens historically when you put black people in charge, who invented nearly every single item they use & interact with on a daily basis. So that… Read more »

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NJ Person
NJ Person
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

White women being afraid may be one possible but limited solution. I doubt the average white is a retard. But concerning race, he, she and it certainly acts like one. Much of the problem probably comes from our elites and their institutions. This is far beyond Trump. Most people do not have the time, energy or inclination to think critically or philosophize. In fact, it is much more psychologically easy to believe. We rely on the elites. Elites are necessary but they can be extremely harmful and even dangerous. Just look at WWI. Just look at the U.S. now.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

“What is the one thing that will cause the tides to shift? White women being afraid.”

And they’ll suddenly discover a sincere desire to have homes and children again.

I’m living proof- a Boomer, son of a WWll vet.

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Felix Krull
Member
4 years ago

<i>His two great achievements are throwing open the prisons so violent blacks can prey on his voters and massive give-sways to the super-rich and global pirates.</i>

You forgot about moving the embassy to Jerusalem.

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Honorable mention goes to his great SCOTUS picks.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  CAPT S
4 years ago

Oh c’mon now. Over the flames, I could hear grateful negroes chanting “Gorsuch… Gorsuch…”

Simon Legree
Simon Legree
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

What you heard was, “gibs-me-dat-fuk! gibs-me-dat-fuk! ….” (in the modern ebonic language, dat-fuk implies “n sheet.”)

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  CAPT S
4 years ago

Honestly Capt S; Trump picked from a list given him by conservatives, a dream list.
That they’re all turning on him just shows how political the Court has always been…the wind is blowing against Trump so the Court goes with the current.

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  lurking_in_hope
4 years ago

Noted. I’m simply regurgitating the excuse people give on why they vote for Trump. The lesson-learned, then, is that there’s no “dream list” of black robes that’s going to change a damn thing.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

With the Sandbagger-In-Chief riding off into the sunset (or muddling through another four years) we can write off any great white hope of having Our people represented in the system as is.

We tried. He failed. TPTB have trebled their efforts to humiliate and destroy us.

We are morally free at this point.

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Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 years ago

Ohh please there was no chance at all that our people would get real representation.

And there is no reason a white hope cannot arise even with Trump in office. Trump is a non-entity for the most part now. He’s afraid of the rioters and has no control over the government anymore.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

Rwc 1963, I think you misunderstand me, Sir. We were obliged to go through the motions of pretending there are rules and the game is fair. It was always a stacked deck but the moral imperative of playing the hand out is completed. With clear conscience we can step away from the rigged game. A hundred posts here and I don’t think I’ve mentioned Trump once. He was always a forlorn hope in my book. While he may have fronted himself as a representative of heritage Americans for opportunistic or vague personal notions, he nevertheless became the expression of the… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 years ago

Happy Father’s Day to you as well Brother I hope you got to spend time with your family…I had to work 😉

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Lineman,

I did and am sorry you missed yours. As always, thank you for keeping the lightning flowing.

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Officially recognizing Israel’s annexation of the occupied Golan Heights is another feather in his cap. Real estate is his business .

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Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

I’m going to help you out Felix since you keep posting the same thing over & over without the self awareness to realize it is not working for whatever reason. (Einstein, definition of insanity?) HTML tag italics do not work anymore. But as you can see from what I just wrote; Italics, do indeed, still work. While you are posting here direct your eyes to the little bar of icons at the bottom of the comment window. See the B, I, U, etc? Bold, Italic, Underline, etc as has been standard for at least the past 30 years on any… Read more »

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Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

<i>without the self awareness to realize it is not working for whatever reason.</i>

It’s a protest. Petty, perhaps, but still: not allowing HTML in your comment field should be considered a First Amendment violation.
And while italics work (you can even use ctrl+i), linking text doesn’t.

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Oh, you’re bothering others now.
Well, I will still pray for you Apex Asperger.

You must be a teacher laid off by COVID, no children to harangue. How sad.

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Actually Felix that was a costly decision for Trump. Peace has cost Trump the military, or at least the Generals. Moving the embassy to Jerusalem effectively ended the Palestinian conflict, which was always about aid money through UNWRA and the rest, especially the Palestinian leadership. So it was Trump actually being the Peacemaker for real. Where it cost Trump is generations of American’s in the State Dept and Foreign Aid, DS/CIA etc have made entire careers on continuing the Palestinian money machine; this cost him a great deal of support in government and the Beltway. Multiple generations of Americans have… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
4 years ago

Boy, there’s a bitter pill to swallow on Father’s Day! I, like a lot of others had at least relatively high hopes for Trump but it’s pretty tough at this late date to get fired up about much of anything. He’s surely a whole lot of bark and very little bite. One thing he has done for me: my hatred of the left – in all its various permutations – knows no bounds. There is no fate that would be beyond the pale for those bastards. I just hope I’m around long enough to see some of the just retribution.

Bubba
Bubba
4 years ago

I actually think his greatest achievement was his candidacy. The energy and fun we had in 2015-2016 was something special. And at that point it did really seem that the left was demoralized after watching Trump beat all the odds.

But that’s it, unfortunately. He’s bungled everything up ever since then. At this point, getting excited for Trump or a Trump re-election is like getting excited for an upcoming 8-8 season in the NFL with a 2nd-rate quarterback. There’s nothing to look forward to.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Bubba
4 years ago

I actually think his greatest achievement was his candidacy. The energy and fun we had in 2015-2016 was something special.

But was that Trump’s achievement, or did Trump merely ride the tiger?

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Trump woke up the tiger, maybe accidentally. But his personality and willingness to wack the other GOP candidates around was key to waking us up. A Jared Taylor type could never have done that. Now that we are awake, hopefully we can grow up a little and accept serious if boring leaders as is normal for us, as long as we are able to keep him focused on being on our side.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

No he had genuine moments. Plus, contrast him with jeb!

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

Trump 2016 was a legitimate accomplishment. He was the only person who could have gotten off the mat after pussygate.

He was the most populist Republican since TR, and if he’d governed that way he’d be on cruise control to a second term.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Personally, endorphin highs of 2016 have long worn off for me. He couldn’t have governed that way, the poz is everywhere so it would have taken a actual revolution. Cheeto-face was always just a carnival barker. And reluctantly — coming from one — a boomer. It will take a different generation — not sure which — for anything to happen.

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Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Sure. Except that it’s pretty clear that Trump had no idea what he was going to be up against, or how to exactly to fight it. IRC it was you who pointed out that a sane establishment would have coopted Trump by giving him a few PR victories and then doing what it wanted to behind the scenes. Which would have worked because I don’t think he has any core beliefs and just wanted to be president for the ego stroking. It’s telling that the establishment couldn’t bring themselves to do even that. It’s even more telling that his response… Read more »

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

You’re assuming Trump was somebody other than he actually is. Personally, I don’t have any trouble admitting I was wrong about him. Let’s face it, Jared is in charge and we know what that means.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

What’s the difference? Prior President rode the tiger after a fashion as well. He was an AA candidate, of zero accomplishment, groomed his entire life for political ascendency.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 years ago

There’s a reason why no one else “rode that tiger”.

Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
4 years ago

At this point, the left is so ascendant and has its hands on so many levers, and has so thoroughly ingrained its values into the minds of almost every single American that regardless of whether Trump was a set up for us we probably should consider him a liability. In fact, that probably explains Trumps behavior: most people swim in leftist water, they dont even consider that there is an alternative other than some nebulous concept that the alternative is pure genocidal evil. This is going to sound defeatest but i have mulled this over for a long time and… Read more »

NJ Person
NJ Person
Reply to  Irishfarmer
4 years ago

You are probably right, Irish Farmer. It usually is a big mistake to rely on one person, especially one as flawed as Trump. The left achieved its dominant position after decades of working through institutions that now even include the military and big corporations. The dissident right is now in such a hole that will require decades of effort to dig itself out.  

mockingbird
mockingbird
Reply to  Irishfarmer
4 years ago

Jared and Ivanka would certainly like for us to vote for Trump again, but we would be stupid to do so. We can be forgiven for believing and hoping the first time, but he’s older and weaker now. If he wins, he’s handing the reins to them (more obviously than he already has) and taking the easy path, while setting his progeny up for possible power. I never really liked him, but voting for Hillary was unthinkable. Voting for Jvanka is equally or maybe more galling. Bottom line: He didn’t fight for us this term when he was facing another… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Irishfarmer
4 years ago

Since I am one of the resident pessimists, I must nod my head in agreement. If I were a young man (I’m not, I’m 58), and single etc. I would seriously consider if moving to another country is the answer. But I don’t think there is anywhere in the world that will escape whatever’s coming. That said, if you have family ties in a stable, not to say affluent, country, you might weigh your options. In my lifetime I’ve seen some of this happen: first they will impose exchange controls (you won’t be able to take your money out), until… Read more »

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Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

Perhaps one day we will have made our own thing we dont have to flee from. I believe it will happen, even if i only live long enough to see the seeds planted.

But we will get there.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

Eastern Europe and Russia.

Minuit
Minuit
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Why in the name of blazes would they accept US immigration? They have a country, a people, a culture, a language. Why would they allow people who stood idly by when stripped of all of those in? You’d be as welcome as a Californian in Texas, except unlike Texans, these people don’t have to let you in. Stand and fight in America, or go quietly into the night.

1UnknownSubject
1UnknownSubject
Reply to  Irishfarmer
4 years ago

We have to destroy it to save it. /s

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  1UnknownSubject
4 years ago

Sulla?

1UnknownSubject
1UnknownSubject
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Excellent reference Ostei.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  1UnknownSubject
4 years ago

I swear that left-wing journalist made that up. “Some unnamed captain” my ass.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
4 years ago

Biden is unaware but how much is Trump actually aware of? He’s always been a touchy-feely guy because that’s what he reacts to. Others have always ironed out the details in the backroom once he’s completed his performance art.  If the throngs are cheering he’s contented. If not he’s all ears to his handlers who control his world view… He’s surrounded by people who would not be out of place in a Hillary or Jeb cabinet. His right fringe is Rush and Hannity. For Trump Tucker is now little more than the embers of a dying fire at summer camp…it… Read more »

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Yves Vannes
4 years ago

Reminds me of the euthanasia scene in Soylent Green. One day of comfort and real food, a movie of beautiful scenes- of what was lost, plays on the big screen as they drift off. Of course they will become the soylent green themselves (“its people!”) to literally feed the illusion of hope and propagate the lie.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Screwtape
4 years ago

Thanks for ruining the movie for me.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

I first saw Soylent Green at the drive-in as a kid. Didn’t see it again til about 45 years later.

Astonishingly good- I don’t think anything could ruin such prescience.

(“Who are you?”… “Furniture.”)

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Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Yves Vannes
4 years ago

It takes brass cajones to step up, fight and die and they are rare among people. Most whites including the DR types will not.
And make no mistake we will not achieve anything without a lot of bloodshed because everyone else wants the brass ring as well.
It will make CW1 look like a picnic.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

As a group We aren’t blank slates. Somewhere buried within us is a drive for self preservation. Is it so deeply buried that it never surfaces in enough of us…or will it erupt and as you say…make CW1 look like a picnic?
Our enemies have turned up the heat and will continue to do so. We about to learn a lot more about our tribe or what’s left of it.

Simon Legree
Simon Legree
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

I am actually willing to fight and die. But I won’t do it alone or gratuitously. I must be convinced my actions will contribute materially to Our Thing. This requires leadership and I don’t see evidence we have it at an operational level. An isolated McVeigh-type incident invariably produces a counter-reaction that undermines attainment of the objective. Show me the leadership, help me join or form the cell. Mirage.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Simon Legree
4 years ago

Leadership comes naturally amongst men you dwell amongst and share bread and battle with… Imagine the Army do leaders just appear or are they cultivated and brought up through the ranks and by their actions and deeds are chosen as leaders… Untested and Unknown leaders usually end up with their men dead or captured…You have to have Community before you can build a movement…But it’s hard work and kinda boring so it doesn’t get done…

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
4 years ago

Trump wasn’t a planned Manchurian candidate. The establishment didn’t decide to run a phony populist. They hated him and took three years to trust him. They began to trust him because around year two they found out he was full of sh it and really believed in nothing but himself. If anything he’s our first entirely nihilist President. Even more so than Obama. I saw the clown show yesterday and it was a pancake makeup wearing old man on a used car lot trying to sell the worst lemon to someone who already bought a lemon from him four years… Read more »

Whitney
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

It really the perfect poetic end. Shades of the last days of the Hapsburgs

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Whitney
4 years ago

Yes!

Wkathman
Wkathman
4 years ago

Trump has never been anything more than a self-inflated con artist. He knows how to stoke the crowd with bombastic rhetoric, but he never delivers actual value.

Bring on President Stacey Abrams! If that doesn’t awaken the sleeping White beast, nothing will.

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Wkathman
4 years ago

I think the beast is awake. The problem is the beast isn’t as big as we had at first imagined. A tough pill to swallow perhaps. But Maybe we’re it. We’re the beast and have to start figuring out how to make ourselves heard and feared.

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

I live in NYC, the belly of the infernal Beast, and I can tell you a silent majority does exist, and surprisingly includes more than a few Asians and Hispanics.
People want stability and order, not rioting and race baiting.
I know many immigrants from the Balkans, Russia, and a few from China and Korea, and they don’t like this shit AT ALL. They are not hiding their disgust and fear over where this could all go, and these are folks who know full well what totalitarianism looks like, as well as large scale ethnic warfare.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Dave
4 years ago

I hear ya, but I was referring to the sleeping white beast, not the electoral majority.

as far as the mythical white beast that one day will awaken from his slumber, I think the beast is already awake and that beast is us. this is as big as it gets.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

give it time. it is still early. my hill tribes at watching intently. Could be wrong, but i do not believe they will bend the knee.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

the moment a white person agreed to take orders from a black, be it a coach or a military superior or whatever, they bended the knee I stopped playing sports because of it. I just couldn’t listen to a black person. It wasn’t mean, it was just instinctively I didn’t respect and trust them. And here I am today on the dissident right. Not many people shared my opinions, or if if they did they didn’t let it change their plans. But maybe I’m wrong on that. Maybe a lot of people did tolerate that black coach or that military… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Well, i’ve never had a black coach or teacher or boss for that matter. LOL maybe it’s a proximity issue.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

And I think it’s old

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Nothing is awake on our side right now. It’s pure REM sleep. Maybe one day.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Dave
4 years ago

Yep. This shit isn’t what most immigrants, legal or otherwise, bargained for when they came to the US. In fact, we’re rapidly approaching the point where America may be a net exporter of people. It’s getting that bad.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

If my family knew I would have to take orders from Africans, they wouldn’t have moved here

America seduced a lot of people with a ponzi scheme of fleeting wealth

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

In your dreams. What they “bargained for” was lots of money and opportunities at Whiteys expense. The $ and the government gibs are just too easy here. No,they will arm up in their own ethnic communities and police their own, and the cops (of any ethnicity) will leave them alone while continuing to squash Whitey.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

Not if the pace of deterioration continues at current levels. We’re fast-tracking to Third World status.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Dave
4 years ago

Hence my earlier suggestion to consider foreign countries. I’m not up-to-date, but there usually are plenty of smaller right-wing authoritarian countries where Whites (not to rule out Asians or other races tho) control the government, even if they are a minority. Often foreigners are tolerated at least, as residents, especially if they bring money, give some jobs to the locals etc. Just hiring a maid & gardener is within your budget if you have a pension or other income. I’d looked into this, Mexico or maybe Panama years ago, but I’m stuck in Florida with a home, a car payment… Read more »

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b123
b123
Reply to  Dave
4 years ago

The non-whites are angrier about the disruptions than whites.

I live in a part of Toronto that’s <40% white. The BLM protesters are always blacks, and young white women. The Asian/Indian majority has no interest in either blacks or whites. If things did get unruly here swift collective action would be taken to pressure local authorities to restore order. Be it BLM or white nat. uprisings.

Hard to know what to do when the majority of our own people won’t take our own side.

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Dave
4 years ago

And here we go again with civnattery 101. All your precious immigrants, the Hispanics and Asians and Balkans, BRING THE CHAOS WITH THEM. Yes, I’m SHOUTING. Again and again we see this “muh principles” fallacy. It doesn’t matter what they say they want. It doesn’t matter if they’re as good as you think they are. They aren’t White European. Their genetics were formed in an utterly different environmental cauldron. They cannot maintain, let alone replicate, your culture. They are not on your side – not even as temporary allies. They are here to take away your children’s heritage, and you… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

We are the beast, but the vast, vast majority of beasties have never heard of Z-Man.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

then they have beast like qualities but not beast like ears 😉

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

We’re already hated. We’re not feared. However, in order to be feared, we first have to be effective.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Wkathman
4 years ago

The pickanniny running the plantation house would be even more perfect than street ho Harris.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Wkathman
4 years ago

It’s not a matter of them awakening them, it’s s a matter of what they are going to do.
Z predicts with a Biden win, things will be a continuation of Obama’s reign. If that’s that case, whites won’t do anything. It will be a slow genocide for whites.
We either spicy smart or die.

Pickle Rick
Pickle Rick
4 years ago

Trump rallies are the CivNat Ghost Dance.

Did he mention record black employment this time?

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Pickle Rick
4 years ago

I am not very political but hated hillary and liked that trump was causing mayhem in DC. So I voted for him. I am not really sure if I ever even believed half the stuff he was promising. I live in California, and part of me was thinking it would be great if illegals were all sent home, but that means all of those apartment owners and everyone else set to lose lots of money and Trump couldn’t risk it. But in 2016 I remember telling my dad, who reminds me of trump and was on the bandwagon, that Trump… Read more »

ButterBean
ButterBean
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

all of those apartment owners and everyone else set to lose lots of money

What are (((they))) producing of consequence? They lease and jangle the finangle. But for them, we could buy, well you and youth could — I own my own properties outright and I always get negged despite being subpar GenX starting out then working hard whenever I reference my personal and household net worth. Next.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Pickle Rick
4 years ago

I think they had to goose the crowd with electric cattle prods to make them cheer when he mentioned Black Achievements for the 600th time.

The tired hesitation was, ahem, noticeable.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

Too bad they didn’t boo lustily.

Pickle Rick
Pickle Rick
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

If they were prepared to do that, they wouldn’t be at a Trump rally

observer
observer
4 years ago

ZMan wrote, “…so going to an event like this means running a gauntlet of protesters, while the cops cheer it on.”

Excellent, ZMan, thank you. Thank you for speaking this critical truth that the dimwit right still doesn’t get

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  observer
4 years ago

Remember San Jose in 2016 when the La Raza mayor and police chief funneled unarmed Trump supporters right through the rage mob. Trump and Sessions did absolutely nothing. I never heard them even mention it. Do you think if a Republican mayor and police chief did a similar thing to Obama supporters Loretta Lynch and the DOJ would let that pass? If Trump and Sessions had legally curb stomped those San Jose officials like they should have a lot of this stupidness we are seeing today would not be going on.

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Observer
Observer
4 years ago

Zman wrote, “Even the dumbest white people are starting to realize that the police are there to protect the Left and their masters.

Bingo, ZMan!… 98% of the right moronically has “cop love” and believes cops are their saviors. Asinine. Antafifa are the government’s shock troops and the police are Antafifa’s body guards.

When it goes down George Soro’s police will be the ones cracking the law-abiding’s skulls. The war will be George Soro’s police and George Soro’s military with a few soy-boys and browns thrown in against the free whites.

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Observer
Observer
Reply to  Observer
4 years ago

When it gets real and you’ve lost friends and family, Antafifa will go down like files… at your pleasure fast as you can switch mags. But when the USSA Red Gov sees their soy-boys going down, then it will be on. You’ll have every cop within 100 miles and several attack helicopters and MRAPs putting a dent in the party.

You mark these words, you dimwitted on the right. Antifafa can be brushed aside. But who’s going to gleefully crack your skull? Who?

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Observer
4 years ago

I think the whole cops-as-enemies meme is wildly overblown. In Minneapolis, NY and Seattle, yes. In Tulsa, Wichita and Omaha, no. And rural law enforcement dam’ sure isn’t going to side with ANTIFAG and BM.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

And when Uncle Sam pulls those rural PD’s funding?

He who pays the piper, calls the tune.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

They’re funded locally and at the state level.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Observer
4 years ago

Not really true among younger people. Orange County had a pro cop rally , and I doubt there was anyone under AARP age there. And Conservative younger people do have time with the economy and all they just lack the interest. Even our side is a little NWA was Right these days. And while as always I suggest lawful actions only and trying to prevent this, if it goes hot, we won’t be fighting in the streets. We’ll be fighting a dirty war against anyone supporting the other side in any way, the softer the target the better. Its also… Read more »

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
4 years ago

I am a boomer and I listen to a lot of boomers still with confidence in Trump although they really can’t tell you much of what Trump has done well other than be Trump. Most boomer relish their 401k and keep watching their 401k balance. The deal is the usual suspects and their cohorts in banking and the corporations are busy carrying off the bank vault to finance the boomers children’s future and the foundation of that 401k balance. Trumps odds are probably still at least 50/50 but he has done damage to his brand with some of us who… Read more »

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
4 years ago

millennials will be loving Boomers the minute it comes to collecting their inheritances that is largely what all of this about, at least from the standpoint of younger white people. They feel cheated but are just as greedy as everyone else, but most of the wealth is concentrated in the hands of older people and they are in effect shut out of the money system. Millennials are the children of boomers. To think, for them to even entertain the idea that they are really so much different, is asinine. As soon as they have the money they will buying those… Read more »

Simon Legree
Simon Legree
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Wait until they discover their boomer parents and other relatives have spent or else donated everything and there will be no inheritance for them. At least they’ll have their expensive social justice degrees to fall back on.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Simon Legree
4 years ago

Important (and oft overlooked) point on those worthless Liberal Arts degrees:

The Millenials who got them did so after being told by their Boomer parents “all you need to do is go get a degree and you’ll automatically have a job Waiting!”

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Simon Legree
4 years ago

You make me think of where I live. When I was starting out, everyone who was educated and white had to buy house in Westlake Village or Thousand Oaks. That’s where you went for the “good schools” if you lived in greater Los Angeles. Now that the kids are grown, none of them want to live there in the boring suburbs, and it’s like retirement village. I think the median age is 55. So all those formerly expensive houses have lost a ton of value. And I wouldn’t buy one. Kids won’t be happy when mom and dad leave to… Read more »

Hangnail
Hangnail
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

What’s really going to shatter the millennials is when upon the death of their last parent, usually mom, they learn she donated the entire estate to a pet cause of hers and left nothing for the kids. I’ve already witnessed this and the tears and overreaction were delicious.

b123
b123
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

The wealth transfer might not go as smoothly as expected.

President Abrams will certainly muscle in on the estates which are “systematically racist” and impose huge taxes.

Furthermore, all the good middle class jobs are going to H1bs, or other immigrants. Sure white millenials might live comfortably but they still have no career and no future.

People don’t realize how indescribably awful things are going to get. Likely eveything we plan for, our current financial and political system, etc. will be totally gone.

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Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  b123
4 years ago

If they realized that they would be banding together with other like minded people and would be preparing like there was no tomorrow…

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  b123
4 years ago

People seem to intuit it. The Boomer cucks for the most part do not, but there’s a substantial minority of that generation (mainly in the South and West) who have seen the handwriting on the wall for some time and they are mad. The dwindling Silents left, Gen X, the Millennials, and Z generally seem to understand, too.

KeepTheChange
Reply to  b123
4 years ago

that right … after Stacy Abram takes charge, it’s gonna be “show me the 401k privilege!” “show me the $$$, Whitey!” That is one angry looking black woman.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Bumper sticker: “We spent our kids inheritance!” And they auctioned off our social cohesion and capital to China and the third world for the sake of quarterly bumps in the stock market.

Don’t get me wrong. The average younger person is just as culpable as the average boomer.

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3g4me
3g4me
4 years ago

Zman, we’re on the same page, but as you can see from the comments many others still harbor hopes. That somehow the reckoning can be delayed, that they can insulate themselves, that something can be salvaged. And they condemn as ‘defeatist’ anyone who tries to look at things objectively. I don’t pretend that a total collapse wont bring tremendous pain and suffering, but I’d still rather see it sooner than later. All those now trying to copy the White flight of the past have yet to face demographic reality. There are vibrant rapefugees in West Virginia and Idaho. People just… Read more »

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

But I’ve been told on good authority that the Saxon will begin to hate at any moment!!!!

b123
b123
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

He does – he hates himself.

KeepTheChange
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

But are we not factoring in who the Hispanics will side with? I don’t think that they necessarily want to be in league with the blacks. I’m thinking that they prefer to work n send money home, not to mention retire in their home country with American dollars.

Vizzini
4 years ago

I think you all confuse Trump being a failure with the nation being a failure. The nation has failed. No one man is capable of bailing it out. The Trump of right-wing dreams would never have gotten elected in the first place and would still have failed if he did — probably gotten himself successfully impeached. Why? Because half the citizens of the US and probably upwards of 90% of the political and ruling classes have no interest in saving the US. It’s one thing to save a people that want to be saved. It’s another to save people in… Read more »

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The Next 4 Years
The Next 4 Years
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

There may be some out there who are angry with Trump for failing to bring about some whiteopia, and I agree that it would be absurd to assume one “savior” could ever do that. But I think most of the anger with Trump is that he failed spectacularly on even the most modest, minor and mundane things, not that he failed to bring in some kind of new world order. From day one of the administration, Trump could have done more to protect his supporters both in person and online, and he did nothing. He could have reformed bureaucracies better… Read more »

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SidVic
SidVic
Member
4 years ago

As Zman notes alot could happen in the next 3-4 months. I think we are surrounded and the situation is dire. Good! Darkest before the dawn and all the other cliches. We are one massacre away from big changes. Currently a man cannot operate in this society with dignity. Hopefully the men are begining to notice. I to have my doubts about Trump (putting it mildly) but he is probaly the the luckiest SOB in history. He is positioned to have a chance to go down as one of the greats in history. Perhaps i am feverishly optimistic but i… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

I predict a Kievan Maidan, where snipers shoot into a woke crowd- and we get the blame.

It’s in the Wiemar playbook.

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Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

Weimar? LOL! No need to go that for back. ‘White supremacists’ did Minnesota dontcha know? And they collared a couple in Las Vegas and UK. The full force & assets of the alphabet agencies are being deployed to ferret out all these hideous supremacists that are causing all this violence at the peaceful protests man. Expect it to really go into high gear when they start sniping the crowds as you said. Alphabet agencies have a long history of setting up stooges for this type of work.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

I always secretly sorta envied my father and grandfather their shooting wars. “

Not only should you not envy them you should be full of rage that they were hoodwinked into fighting brother wars spilling European blood so that skinsuit wearing lizard bankers / industrialists could continue to operate across both continents with impunity. If anyone really knew the machinations that went on behind the scenes of both World Wars there wouldn’t be enough lampposts to support the full weight of it all. We backed the wrong side…

Falcone
Falcone
4 years ago

I think the energy at the next few rallies will tell the story.

it will also show just how organized are the Antifa people, if they can keep taking their act to the various stops on the road. And also keep up their energy.

we will see if Trump can tire them out or if he even has it in him. I wouldn’t be surprised also if Trump is playing possum a little and acting beaten down.

we shall see.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

The complete lack of violence and mayhem in Tulsa may encourage greater turnouts in future rallies. Also, silly though it undoubtedly is, the KOVID spike in Oklahoma doubtless deterred many older Trump supporters from attending. The Donald had a lot going against him last night. But he’s been the underdog for the last five years, so he’s used to it.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

1/3 of a stadium isn’t that bad really. How much did Biden get?

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

Hiden’ Biden is out of view.

abprosper
abprosper
4 years ago

Filling 1/3 of a stadium in the midst of a viral pandemic that is still killing people and widespread unrest isn’t terrible. Joe Biden got what 3 people? Now this doesn’t mean Trump isn’t weak or Q isn’t psyops bullshit but its a sign of the times. That said no one should have expected a 70+ hotelier to be the “The Guy” . t wasn’t in him. His job was to buy time. Any failure to that end is not his fault though. Covid 19 started to unravel the entire planet and while a very smart government maybe could have… Read more »

Vizzini
4 years ago

I think we’re done. Even on supposedly “conservative” sites I get roasted for pointing out that it is delusional to think that Trump’s path to victory is to just court Blacks harder. Egalitarianism is a helluva drug.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

those sites are filled with bandwagoners

Fact of life we have to deal with

But as soon as we start winning, whatever form that takes, the bandwagon fans will be coming over here and buying their Z Man coffee cups and baseball hats lol

Nah nah, I know Z Man will never stoop so low but just making a point

Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

If he peels some black votes off the Democrats, it helps him get elected.

Vizzini
Reply to  Lorenzo
4 years ago

And if he sheds some White voters who think he cares more about Blacks and Israel than he does about his base, he loses the election.

Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

The typical white voter does not have the same antipathy to blacks and Jews that lots of people in the DR seem to.

And the DR is a lot thinner on the ground than typical white voters. The DR does not punch above its weight; it doesn’t punch at all.

KeepTheChange
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

Yep, I’m very black-pilled … the weakness shown during the rioting makes Whites look like big pussies and that includes Trump. And I hear the talk about some women being afraid, but I wonder if these women actually see the blacks as the real men who are willing to fight. We lost big-time. We lost respect and we have zero leverage … we got our asses kicked.

KeepTheChange
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

And I know that we can’t go into a liberal city and expect to prevail cuz we’d be fighting the rioters and the police. It’s really how the media portrayed the mayhem and then the groveling from whites afterward … and the damn kneeling. I felt sick to my stomach.

King Tut
King Tut
4 years ago

The lesson here is that we must not permit our judgment to be clouded or occluded by emotions. Anger, despair and rage are enemies to be avoided.

Now is the time for clear, cold thinking. Hate is good but only if properly channeled, controlled and directed. Hate and fury must become our servants, not our masters.

This war is not over. In fact, it has not even really begun.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  King Tut
4 years ago

The war is over. It was over the moment “conservatives” accepted the Left’s moral framework.

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

If the war is over, then what are we doing here? Why is zman bothering?

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  King Tut
4 years ago

we’re here because we are the last men standing

This is our team, the players we have to work with

We are the ones who bothered to show up

No one else is going to be coming to our games to see us play until we give them something they want to see and can get behind. And we have to figure out what that is. And sure, maybe in time we will be getting some of the big name fancy recruits. But for nw we are the Bad News Bears

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

“we’re here because we are the last men standing
This is our team, the players we have to work with..”

Then the war is not over.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  King Tut
4 years ago

Not even close

Moss
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Falcone, Perhaps your defeatist tone is unintentional. If it is, some encouragement. We, Our White People, are just beginning to wake up. This is far from over. The suck is just beginning. BUT, we will come through this valley, en force. I was mildly aware months ago what was happening. The clues were financial indicators that shook me from my hamster wheel. I trusted what I was smelling, seeing and hearing, and began to make huge changes to prepare for what was obviously a Depression. Now, I see the war coming is much larger and more dangerous (starving feels less… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Moss
4 years ago

I am not defeatist at all. My apologies if it comes off that way.

Rather, I am trying to express my opinion that we be proud of being here and part of a small select group and let’s recognize we are the only ones here right now so let’s work with what we have and get moving

I think that is exciting as hell.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Great comments. This isn’t over by a long shot. Hell I’m getting cross. And not alone.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

That would have been when? 1913?

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

There’s a lot of ruin in a society…but 1945 seems as good a starting point as any

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  King Tut
4 years ago

We have not yet begun to fight. But we will soon. We had better…

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

We have reached the point where it will be easier to build something new than save the old

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Absolutely. There’s no doubt about that.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Where’s our Mosely, our Enoch Powell?

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

Mosely and Powell were both trying to save Ancien Regimes.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Exactly, MWV. The expanse of the United States makes it a far better candidate for dissolution.

Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

Mosely!? Let’s scare the normies off by shilling for a wannabee Hitler.

Powell, yes, but Mosely?

Jaysus wept.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

I’ve got a buddy who believes Tucker Carlson has what it takes to be our bellwether. Course, he’d have to take one helluva pay cut.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
4 years ago

For a man who’s supposedly aiding and abetting the AWRs, they sure as hell do want him gone.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

I was confused by this for a long time. It wasn’t trump they hated but fact that the white working class elected him against thier wishes. They still show a bit of spirit. Also note that the only ones standing up to the protesters, and it ain’t alot of them, look scruffy as hell. that’s my beloved white working class.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

My hillbillies haven’t weighed in yet. I watch acutely. I really hope they don’t cuck.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

their hatred of us was always like an ambient light whose heat was growing in intensity. Trump was like the magnifying glass that allowed the light to focus on its target with burning precision. And now the left are all walking around with magnifying glasses provided them by the lunatics.

Yeah, but make no mistake, we are the ones they hate.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

One important positive about Trump is that he’s a true, proud, unapologetic white man. Early in his tenure he defended Western civilization and made many politically incorrect remarks (viz African shitholes), and while he may not attack the AWRs as forcefully as he should, he’s not about to kiss Hutu feet and shine their Stacy Adams. Trump is a white man’s white man. He’s a throwback in that regard, and I think that is the main reason the AWRs hate him so much. White men are supposed to be weak, humble and hangdog. Trump is none of that.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Anti-White Racists, folks

If only we would reflexively jump to defend our own, no matter what he’s done, as they do theirs.

(Interesting conspiracy bit on Chauvin- somebody’s posting pics comparing neighbor Chauvin A to killer Chauvin B- the low, slungback ears of B are distinctly different. That’s the fellow white tell that can’t be hidden.)

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John
John
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

Floyd had enough fentanyl and morphine in his system to kill a horse. The cops didn’t call the ambulance fast enough. Neck restraint was standard procedure. See article at unz.com

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  John
4 years ago

Yes, thanks, that’s why he was saying “I can’t breathe’- the booey was kicking in, paralyzing his respiratory system. It’s elephant tranquilizer.

People in the crowd wondered loudly why B stared at them without relent, even after GF had lapsed into unconsciousness.

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TomA
TomA
4 years ago

You should have called this post “Black Pill Sunday.” Trump is neither the problem, nor the solution. And the current social dynamics are the result of a last spasm of resistance from the Deep State prior to Durham’s indictments. Expect lots of fireworks from the 4th of July onward til November. Ancient wisdom, use this time to find safe haven and improve your robustness. We may yet live to see the beginning of the rebound.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

Speaking of “social dynamics”:

2016 was the Twitter election. Trump played that hand masterfully.

2020 may well be the Tik Tock election; Trump was tolled very hard in Tulsa.

A $1 per ticket fee, payable by traceable credit card would fix the mischief from last nights rally numbers.

But the real point is the engines of persuasion have moved on from Twitter, and on to newer platforms that frankly, old people like me don’t care about and don’t want to. It’s weaponized visual persuasion,as powerful as it is shallow.

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Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  ProZNoV
4 years ago

The fact the Brad Parscale fell for a troll that was so simple and transparent shows what intellectually vapid bullshitters guys are. It was something a junior high kid would be able to see a mile away.
There was zero cleverness necessary to pull it off.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

Four years ago, our Zoomers were the ones pulling off that troll.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

And the current social dynamics are the result of a last spasm of resistance from the Deep State prior to Durham’s indictments. Expect lots of fireworks from the 4th of July onward til November I think you got lost on the way here. You are looking for breitbart.com comments section thatta way—> You got it man Q was right all along there will be a TOTAL round up of hundreds, no thousands of deep state critters to celebrate the 4th of July this year. And Trump will lead the charge on a white horse shouting Deus Vult! as he rides… Read more »

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Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

In the past I have read that the ooga booga occult practices that the elite participate in requires them to publically confess their wickedness in some form. This is what Qanon is looking like to me. Trust Wray, activate Sessions, yeah right.

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
4 years ago

I watched the rally, and it wasn’t the same man. He’s diminished. It wasn’t just the rally size. Never mind the Candidate, the President is now basically the Mayor of Federal Buildings where Barr’s Federal cops stand. You are unfair to Trump, he did a great deal for the economy. He also delivered on Peace – which cost him his Generals – as peace is not their prosperity. Eternal Stalemates are their prosperity. I should mention that our Generals now have no respect from the ranks, they are openly known as war profiteers and worse- Losers. So no coup is… Read more »

vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector
vxxc 💂🏻‍♂️😉 Toxic masculinity vector

I should add; the next President also begins as the mayor of Federal Buildings, and if its Biden not even that. Not to worry, Antifa and BLM will change into their shiny new uniforms. Not kidding, of course they have a plan for consolidation,

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
4 years ago

Trump’s re-election prospects are shaky largely because he has been identified as contra America’s new religion, Anti-Racism. The irony is rich there for all the reasons you noted. The Jewish Establishment son-in-law helped persuade Trump to embrace mass migration and pass jail break for black super predators. No doubt Jared convinced him to stay sidelined while cities burned. While Trump probably didn’t lose any of his core base, he probably lost persuadables who didn’t vote for him precisely because they thought he would not deliver. Still, and this is counter-intuitive, I give a tiny edge to Trump because the black… Read more »

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Frip
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

“I give a tiny edge to Trump because the black rioters probably are going to ratchet up and the pathetic suburban wine moms will get scared of Biden and his vice president of color. Terrorism works until it doesn’t.” Good comment. Just a gut-feel counterpoint. I assume the rioters take direction from higher-ups. Whoever gave the ok to riot, can also sense when the near-term goal has been met. If things get too hot, they turn it off. (Unless the black hordes are truly out of control. Are they?) 2nd, I could be wrong, but the riots never seem to… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Frip
4 years ago

I’ve seen indications that Antifa, which is terror for hire, has splintered into some factions that cannot be controlled, and the feral blacks doing the looting are not backing off. Now as for that latter, if they get the sense the police will step up they might stop, but these are incredibly violent and low IQ people.

There have been ventures into the ‘burbs and the Dems moved quickly to reel those back in. My guess is this is about to spin out of their control.

whatever
whatever
4 years ago

I watched the rally and was impressed by the crowd – the largest peaceful gathering in months and 99% not wearing masks. If anything I hope it set an example for the people cowering to Karens and the millions of others afraid to go to any social setting. Any other comparison is to pre-Covid is not pertinent, As for criticisms here, I just roll my eyes wondering who that perfect Z candidate is and how he would get elected. And then the carping I’d hear when the Z candidate did not do the perfect thing because he had to compromise… Read more »

Georgie
Georgie
Reply to  whatever
4 years ago
Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Georgie
4 years ago

May the Goodwhites on that feed get all that they wish for. In spades! This is my heartfelt sentiment.

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
4 years ago

Rabbi Trump is starting to come out as another self-hating white. He can’t make a speech or statement without certifying himself as anti-racist. Instead of taking a firm stand against BLM / Antifa dementia, which could restore his cred with those who voted for him in 2016, he takes the soft option of sassing Biden’s dementia. Trump sounds like a deep-dyed egalitarian: he can’t take one position and hold it, because that would leave some people out. He has to be all things for all people. As in the old joke, “Go to it, wife! Go to it, bear!” As… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Gravity Denier
4 years ago

Trump always has looked a little too much like Sumner Redstone

KeepTheChange
Reply to  Gravity Denier
4 years ago

Problem with Trump is that nobody really takes him seriously … he’s not a serious person.

KeepTheChange
Reply to  Gravity Denier
4 years ago

There was too much joking and story-telling at the Tulsa rally. Damn it, guy … the friggin country is under attack … do something!!! Maybe he knows that he can’t do anything.

George Orwell
George Orwell
4 years ago

Behold the civic orgasm that will be broadcast with stentorian obduracy sometime during 2021: the holy transubstantiation of the presidency when white Saint Biden resigns his office to a sacrosanct angry black woman VP. Karens will weep with joy. Unmasked, vibrant citizens will exercise with gratitude in shopping malls outside of normal business hours, lo, far across the land. 

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
4 years ago

I agree with the article, but I’m still going to vote for him. The alternative is worse and Trump does provide some good comedy and he really gets under the skin of all the right people.
BLM is not going to stop if Biden wins. BLM was rioting across the nation in the Obama years. Antifa and BLM existed before Trump. The media is not going to stop hating whites, nor will the brown hordes or the elite. Things are most certainly not going to get better by getting worse. That’s just a cope.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Yeah and people keep saying that things got worse for black people when Obama got elected. Maybe the best plan is to vote for the person that you think would hurt you

Homer Hinkley
Homer Hinkley
Member
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Zman’s homework assignment: Write a post on why we should vote for Biden.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Whitney
4 years ago

Blacks don’t vote according to whether they are better or worse off than four years ago. They vote according to habit, how best to stick it to YT, and for who promises the most gibs.

Dave
Dave
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Your last 2 sentences are the goofiest thing I’ve read in a loooong time.
Sure, Zman… let’s give Sleepy Joe and Kamala a chance.
I mean, what could go wrong? Sure, you will be outed and unemployable, as will everyone commenting here, but beyond that, Biden might be Okey Dokey!

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

At least the Democrats fully own the anti-White system at that point

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

depends how we define worse. if worse is measured only in shorter increments of time, Trump is way better than Obama. I was getting seriously down and depressed under Obama in those last couple years. I think the spike in small business owner sentiment is a reflection or a proxy for the emotional state of regular white people. Life improved dramatically for me and many others with tangible improvements for me financially and many others. But if worse is measured against a generational time frame, or as it pertains to the larger cause of white betterment, then, yes, I think… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

At bare minimum, Trump’s tax cuts benefitted me.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

I’m finally seeing daylight, after hammer blows since Clinton’s first reign. I missed all the uptake, can’t get it back, but I’ve got my best chance right now under Trump to at least get my feet under me.

Not mad at Trump: I’m mad at myself. I believed far too much of the CivNat poz and allowed this to happen. I trusted the Jew.

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tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Trump is one chapter in what HAS become a long saga.

Fixed that for you:)

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

The MAGA vs dissident divide is an interesting one. Pro-MAGA folk don’t seem to grasp that the Red team and Blue team are the selfsame team. I’m fond of the pro-MAGA folk, just as I’m fond of my grandson’s faith in Santa Claus. But in 2024 my grandson will understand objective reality, while Mr. FoxNews will go all-in for Josh Hawley in 2024.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  CAPT S
4 years ago

No, it’ll be that insufferable twit from South Carolina. Not Graham, different one. The sacred hindu cow of our new vibrant majority.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

Haley is the Ilhan Omar for Conservatives.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  CAPT S
4 years ago

The MAGA folks want to hang onto an America that no longer exists. I am voting for Trump myself, and give him a slight edge if the riots ramp up, but it likely is the last vote I ever cast. This will transition from politics to violence in short order.

Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

How would that be different from the last four years?”

You’ll probably be seeing the difference in due course.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Change can take many forms. Changing politics is just one venue of opportunity. You can also change your methodology for influencing politics. Right now, the Left is using it’s useful idiots to engage in lukewarm violence in order to proactively alter the upcoming election. They are stuck on lukewarm because they have no Alphas. But there are still lots of Alphas in the wild. Which team do you want to bet on?

Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Believe me, I want things to change and I’ve long since given up hope that the Republicans or Conservative Inc. would ever make it happen. All I say is, it will be worse under the Democrats, including much worse trying to organize a meaningful third-force opposition.

Simon Legree
Simon Legree
Reply to  Lorenzo
4 years ago

We want it to become unbearable and inescapable sooner rather than later. Nothing on our side will coalesce until there is no other option. We need the fires to burn now.

Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  Simon Legree
4 years ago

It will be certainly unbearable, If everything slides, you might get your wish that it’s inescapable also.
Have fun.

ButterBean
ButterBean
Reply to  Lorenzo
4 years ago

‘zo my brother, you and yours will disappear. And that’s OKAY.

JeepEr
JeepEr
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

I would be interested to read a prediction post regarding a Biden administration.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Is this Father’s Day or April Fool’s Day?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Trump’s election made a few differences. One looms large. We know from HRC’s intercepted/leaked emails she intended to establish an EU-like economic zone without borders and immigration controls from Cape Horn to Point Barrow. We got a four-year reprieve from browns to the south just spilling into here X 10,000. It was the main goody Clinton would have delivered Soros and the death blow to the white working class. Of course this particular email never gets discussed because McConnell and Ryan would have been fully onboard. I expect a Biden Administration would try to implement the same immediately. The draw… Read more »

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

National politics should probably be an afterthought for the most part. Either way, we will get screwed. It is time to organize outside the system in all aspects of life, and especially prepare the next generation for what they need to be. Not political agitators doing blogs and podcasts, but White men who can build a civilization without outside help, including capitol from wall street and crap products from Asia. This is now a generational project.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Dave
4 years ago

Sure, you will be outed and unemployable, as will everyone commenting here, This is happening right now and Trump is fiddling like Nero. What is it like to live a life ruled by fear and uncertainty? I’m not familiar with it because I have -already- been outed and am unemployable and had the badge orcs pointing guns at me. Yet here I am. You strategy is to just hold on a little while longer hoping they will eat you last right? You sound like a white leftist when you posit this, just FYI. What is coming is coming whether you… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

You know Apex I think it all comes down too that they are hoping that someone else will fix the problem…Like you said when the fear and pain hits only then do they realize that it’s all up to them whether they live or die and they actually start to do something…

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Seneca said: You can take Fate by the hand, or you can get dragged along. The choice is yours 🙂

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

The alternative is worse emotionally for me. Trump makes life a little more bearable. It’s like at least getting to hear the radio station I like while attending a mostly black high school. The alternative is something like Hillary which is like the worst radio station on top of all the bullshit. I would probably kill myself. Just kidding, but trying to make a point. I understand the shallowness of this, but I am sure I’m not very different from a lot of people. Four years of my life is a pretty significant chunk of it, so if I can… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

That’s an excellent point. The president, strangely enough, is part of our aesthetic and psychological environment. And aesthetics and the psyche are profoundly important things.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

I remember how interminable the Obama administration was. How it just dragged on and on. Despite the disappointments with Trump, the last for years have flown by for me.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

But if Dementia Joe is merely a catspaw for the truly radical AWRs?

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

If the mobs and Covid disappear, that’s a huge step to making the average person’s life better.

why are we defending an orange fraud who has delivered zero for us??

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

On the contrary, if Joe wins, it will be all Pol Pot all the time. Because that is the Inner Party. Jello Biafra may be many things, but he had their number in the late 1970s. And nothing changed. Jerry Brown, subject of California Uber Alles, is now … RETIRED. The people running things will be: Susan Rice, the BEAST from 20,000 Fathoms, Biden’s coke-head son, and his idiot wife. HILLARY was the candidate of Malibu and the Hamptons, and those types are not in it for Pol Pot. Susan Rice? Stacey Abrams? That’s the danger of the Biden Presidency.… Read more »

Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  Whiskey
4 years ago

Biden’s purpose is to lull people into thinking that a 2020 Democrat win will calm things down. People assume old mellow Joe will nod away lazy afternoons in the White House and we can live our lives unmolested by the white haters. Trouble is, Biden will be in a memory care home a year after he’s elected and we’ll have a fire breather like Kamala Harris in office. The crackdown on palefaces under her will be worse than under Obama.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Whiskey
4 years ago

As a meaningless aside, Stacy could be a head-fake for the surprise VP candidate, Susan Rice. The newsies would collapse in collective orgasm at Lady Obama.

John
John
Reply to  Whiskey
4 years ago

Note that Susan Rice and Stacey Abrams are members of the CFR, along with the Clintons, Soros, Powell, Fink, etc.

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

>the GOP to purge anyone connected with Trump

If Trump is humiliated, then maybe dropping in on the first county-level party meeting of 2021 might not be a bad idea. Especially if Limbaugh is in the ground by then.

The copes will almost certainly be a re-hash of the 2012 autopsy, along with the “Trump wasn’t a real conservative” bit.

There may be a certain number of people who are open to new ideas. A short, well-prepared yet upbeat “Conservatism Is Dead” talk might find an audience, if there is anyone under say 60 present.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Locally, Z, I’ve seen indications the feral black contingent is not controllable and Antifa types are breaking from the Establishment that has bankrolled them. If the Uniparty can rein in their thugs and cool down the pseudo-revolution they sponsor, Biden wins in a walk. If, as I suspect, there are elements who refuse to tamp it down, Biden loses narrowly. I think it doesn’t matter what either Biden or Trump does at this point. The rioters will call the shots. ETA: Exactly right about Biden. The United States will have a regency if he wins. The man is a figurehead/Pied… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Friday night I was discussing this very topic with a good friend of mine. He agrees with you. My counterargument, however, is that now that the Free Shit Army has the taste of blood in its mouth, it won’t go quietly into that good night. I do not believe, in other words, that TPTB will be able to control the evil djinn they have released. What’s more, various malicious maniacs such as Maxine Waters, Eric Holder and that Castro A-hole, will seek to inflame the mob further. We’re in for serious conflict, one way or the other.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

That means a slow genocide for whites because they will not do anything they aren;t already doing which is nothing.
Stasis = death for whites both culturally and people wise.
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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Bring it, mofos
I want my revenge

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

Channeling your inner James Brown?

Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Dementia Joe will simply be a figurehead who lets the people who hate you really run amok. He will be in a memory care home a year after he’s elected and his VP will be running things. You’ll find out what worse is when the federal government led by somebody like Kamala Harris starts slapping honkeys around. You think you have to operate underground now. Get a bigger shovel

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Yeah. There’s that. Can’t argue with any of it.
I guess even the most cynical people like me try to keep hope alive, even if the hope is pretty false. The recent SCOTUS decisions are a huge black pill. We can’t even pretend the courts are important.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
4 years ago

Every time I hear of the new nation formerly named Chaz, I immediately think of their would-be mascot, the fat tranny Pillsbury doughboy Chaz Bono. Every single time. Chop is equally evocative…..Off with their heads! They need a better advertising tranny.
Thank you Z for your observations!

Christian Attorney in Ohio
4 years ago

Much of what you say is true. Trump has hired some awful people, but he has been betrayed by people he trusted as well. Gorsuch has started the Souter/Kennedy journey to the other side. Jeff Sessions, who was one of the best Senators, was a horrible Attorney General. He let the Swamp run DOJ for the first three years. The main value of Trump has been to show that a populist and national conservative agenda can win at the ballot box. Most Republicans give lip service to it now. Some like Tom Cotton and Josh Hawley appear to be true… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Christian Attorney in Ohio
4 years ago

It buys time and importantly time makes a difference. I don’t want to upset people of the boomer generation, and I don’t mean to, but I have always said even decades before “Hey boomer” was a meme that things are not really gong to change until the boomers start dying off. Paraphrasing an old Updike line, but they have to die off and make space. They are simply too culturally and economically dominant to allow other plants to grow in their garden. And so what we are getting are a lot of weeds and strange occurrences that find a way… Read more »

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Anecdotal, but the only pushback I’ve seen against the lock downs and anti-white riots has come from the aged and dying Boomers. I hope that’s wrong but it is what I’ve personally observed. Their deaths will make room but whose room? They may be the last group of people to resist what is becoming a genocide.

Frip
Member
Reply to  Christian Attorney in Ohio
4 years ago

“Tucker Carlson, who espouses the agenda that got Trump elected, has a very popular show, but probably won’t last much longer.” If you’re talking about Tucker’s actual life not lasting much longer, I agree. Seriously, how is this guy still alive? His security detail must be absurd. We’re fortunate to have him. There doesn’t HAVE to be a Tucker Carlson right now. Sitting in his chair could easily be another Con.Inc type. The dude takes few prisoners. He skewers hard. He’s kind of a barely contained spastic. As mentioned here before, it’s suspected he’s been studying at the foot of… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Frip
4 years ago

While studying at the foot of Z is a good thing, Carlson doesn’t need to do so. Much of what is happening in the last few months is too obvious for intelligent people, even those in deep denial like Boomer Cons, to ignore.

I hadn’t considered the assassination angle, but basically all of us know the plug will be pulled on Tucker’s show once the Murdoch kids hear too much criticism while drinking with liberal friends at the Ty Bar. His run has been spectacular, though.

Frip
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

It’s not just recently with Tucker. For a few years now commenters here have noticed shades of Z in Tucker’s “insights”.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Frip
4 years ago

Good point. Has Carlson ever explained what made him transition from cuck to sorta woke?

Frip
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

Not sure. I know his relatively new-found aggression was spurned on by John Stewart embarrassing him for being the Con Inc fence-sitter he used to be. It’s on YouTube. Other than that, I think he’s simply a high IQ guy who started reading the D-Right’s top writers.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Christian Attorney in Ohio
4 years ago

It buys more time if nothing else.
What is time though if you aren’t using it wisely…

Moss
Member
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Line, using the time is the key! If the world says “get along, keep your job, sign your kids up for sportsball, plan your winter vacation now..” then Using Time looks like the opposite!
Sell your house at the peak of the market, don’t let the lie of job security trap you in little Mogadishu. GET OUT NOW.
Analyze potential safe havens around you. Retreat, regroup, find your people, and get ready. We ain’t seen bad yet, but it’s comin’.

lurking_in_hope
lurking_in_hope
Reply to  Christian Attorney in Ohio
4 years ago

Trump tried to hire people competent in government. But they were Never Trumpers. Trump tries to put MAGA in there but they’re incompetent in government – the government we have is a maze, literally. In fact it’s a multi-dimensional maze. The bureaucracy itself is of course solidly Never Trump. And fears, loathes Americans. Trump tries with loyalists, but they talk like people from America…or even like we do. = Crazy to anyone in DC who knows how to file documents correctly and where the men’s room is at…even conservatives. I want to emphasize this point: Normal Americans making common sense… Read more »

John
John
Reply to  Christian Attorney in Ohio
4 years ago

Neil Gorsuch is a former member of the CFR, along with several other Trump picks including Powell, Esper, and Bolton.

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
4 years ago

“Whether or not Trump does anything to save himself is an open question at this point, as he looks like a beaten man.” As an anarcho-capitalist I do try to refrain from voting, but I have found that I vote against people. I was not a fan of Trump but since Mrs. Clinton is a Satan stand-in as far as I am concerned, I voted Trump. I got banned from the treehouse place for mildly criticizing Trump bombing a middle east country based on obviously bogus information. It was a “he should have known better” comment and BLAM I was… Read more »

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MBlanc46
MBlanc46
4 years ago

So the one thing that the Trumpians tout as the thing that will turn the tide—the overwhelming enthusiasm of his base—turns out to be non-existent.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MBlanc46
4 years ago

A bit premature after only one rally.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  MBlanc46
4 years ago

One rally during riots and a purportedly deadly epidemic still with far greater turnout that Biden got does not indicate a massive lack of enthusiasm among a naturally conservative and cautious lot.
Don’t get me wrong, enthusiasm is down but Trump is not out.

Hangnail
Hangnail
Reply to  MBlanc46
4 years ago

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.” – Dean Wormer

Not directed at you, Mel.

Archer
Archer
4 years ago

Instead of bashing people for not seeing the light, we need to focus on making the light brighter.
What we should do is find three issues we can rally the most people around and then build the most compelling elevator pitch (i.e., something someone can say in 30 seconds).

then stay on message.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Archer
4 years ago

Trump 2016 already provided your three issues:

  1. Stop immigration
  2. Bring manufacturing jobs back home through tariffs and federal coercion
  3. Stop the forever wars in the middle east.

It’s a winning formula. I imagine everyone in DC knows it’s a winning formula. Yet none of them, including Trump, can execute it. Why?

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1UnknownSubject
1UnknownSubject
4 years ago

His speech seemed a little low energy and he looked a little worse for wear. But – DJT is a student of Sun Tsu – so they say –

Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” – Sun Tzu

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  1UnknownSubject
4 years ago

I’m kinda with you on this. Forget the politics. I am just speaking about the man. I sense he is playing possum.

And he has to know, and surely does, that if he wants to “energize the base” all he has to do is crack some antifa skulls

He may be saving it

KeepTheChange
Reply to  1UnknownSubject
4 years ago

I also watched the entire rally. Energy level was OK except near the end and he got a little gassed. My problem is that he disappeared during the riots when he should have been the most visible. I wish that he could’ve marshalled a couple SEAL teams or a platoon of Marines and just strutted right through the middle of the rioters and fixed the problem … like something Gen Patton would’ve done… those are good optics.

Halbert Hoodwin
Halbert Hoodwin
4 years ago

Another example of why we should steer clear of BLM/Antifa rioters; as usual the enemy media is engaging in deflection:
https://twitter.com/plzbepatient/status/1274733137973530626

As frustrating as it may be, a sitzkrieg accomplishes a lot more right now than confronting the FBI’s patsies.

If nothing else, at least one major victory to take away from the Trump presidency is his unmasking the media as the enemy of the people. As the Zman said in a post some time ago, that’s a significant victory we can make use of even after Trump’s long gone.

Sammy Woke
Sammy Woke
Reply to  Halbert Hoodwin
4 years ago

Well sure, going into the lion’s den is a fool’s errand, but I do love to see whites fight back against general black antagonism:
https://twitter.com/DVATW/status/1274595064422023168

So while fighting the BLM cannon fodder that the elite set up for us is stupid, we should probably expect to see harsher white reactions against black criminality. You love to see it.

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JR Wirth
JR Wirth
4 years ago

Trump’s greatest achievement was a tax code change. One that capped blue state tax deductions. That alone may have been worth his election (but not re-election). It will force people like me to eventually exit our blue states. The democrats won’t bring the deductions back. They’re just jaw boning and need the cash. The blue states were free riding on that deduction. No one even understands the exodus that’s about to happen. Notice that blue states never lowered their taxes to accommodate the Federal change. The economic tables will be turned by this over the next five years. No California,… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

I suspect tons of federal money will flow to the Blue states and cities to compensate for some of the loss. But you are right, it can’t make up for the SALT losses and the mass exodus that is about to happen regardless of who wins in November will be the White version of the Great Migration. There is a great sorting underway and it will accelerate. States likely will break apart whether formalized by law or not.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

The WuFlu crisis is being deliberately exacerbated in Blue States in large part to justify/force a Federal bailout of the wreckage of the financial Tsunami caused by their ludicrous government staffing and pension expenses. Trumps little boot in the nuts (I assume his feet are as small as his hands) with tax deductibility certainly makes it worse , and is therefore to be welcomed but is not the proximate cause,

Frip
Member
4 years ago

Zman: “Millions of white man hours were invested in Trump that could have gone to building a second party or building a legitimate alternative to the ruling class.” That’s true and depressing. Of course, Trump seemed like he might be a true badass during the campaign. So, he really was the horse we had to bet on. Like another tough talking Republican narcissist, (Arnold Schwarzenegger as California governor), I’d hoped Trump would realize there’s no way to drain the swamp or change this Pozzed nation. But with a maniacal grin, go gangbusters trying anyway. Just for the hell of it.… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Frip
4 years ago

Trump seemed to be a badass, but I always noted he had a weak chin. Not a strong proud and aggressive chin.

And those old stereotypes proved true.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Frip
4 years ago

My Trump-hating, Floyd-carping, virtue signaling friends, now safely ensconced in the whitest place they could find, assure me Trump will stage a coup.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

If only….

Member
4 years ago

In many ways, the failure of Trump’s presidency was inevitable. His election may have been a massive grift or, more charitably, a marketing success. Whether he was simply unable or never intended to follow through with his many election promises is irrelevant, it’s the marketing that was important. What’s important now is not what Trump can or cannot do. What is important is what follows Trump. I think, and I may be wrong, that the most likely outcome will be some kind of dictatorship possibly accompanied by active persecution of the regime’s enemies. The dissident right will be among those… Read more »

Reply to  Raymond R
4 years ago

Stupid auto correct: Only those who are now young will see the end of the drama

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Raymond R
4 years ago

I thought the same way. Now i’m not so sure. I do know that i’ve become to feel shame that i might leave this mess to my children to clean.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

We should clean up our own mess, I agree, and leave our heirs an inspiring example like our mums and dads in the Depression and WWll.

Trust the genes-

Sidvic: ‘hill tribes are watching intently’

vxxc: Let it be now.

VCR
VCR
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

just keep blogging under an anonymous tag

It’s all going to be FINE

Exalted Cyclops
Exalted Cyclops
Reply to  Raymond R
4 years ago

Anne Barnhardt said Trump was a particular type of grifter (not for money but fame for the Trump name) from day one. She may well be proved right. Conservatives are complete failures who couldn’t even conserve the ladies’ room. Cucks and grifters all. As for the “two parties” in Murika: That’s a con-job as well. You have the D-Jerseys (NY Globetrotters – Pedocrats) and the R-Jerseys (Washington Generals Gay Old Pedobears) playing an utterly scripted fake game to waste the time and energy of the idiots being enslaved. Trump won in 2016 by pretending to be something different. Guess he… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Raymond R
4 years ago

Here is an essay I wrote yesterday. A bit long, but somewhat releated to today’s postings. You Won A still fictional letter of surrender to the forces of Wokeness, the social justice warriors, whatever you wish to  call them. From a spokesman (we still use sexist terms here) from the vanquished evil white race. Let’s pretend you’ve won. In fact you haven’t yet, but factors seem to be in your favor. Not the least is the below-replacement birth rates. Not only of Whites, but even Afro-Americans — one of your core constituencies. Not only in the USA, but also Europe… Read more »

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

We’re about the same age. I’m a few years older. We’ve lived through most of your narrative. They ask, demand, loot and burn…and at every turn we gave up something asking for nothing in return. Again and again and again. Our enemies are who they are and they pursue their interests. We sacrificed our great great grandfathers in the 1860s and with only a few exceptions have sacrificed every generation of Whites ever since. This is the worst part of it all. We have become so conditioned to self effacement at so great a cost to ourselves and to that… Read more »

David Wright
Member
4 years ago

It is hard to take but Trump really is the dog finally catching up to the car it chases. What to do now?
Many always agree that are our great problems aren’t going to be solved politically. Capture the culture first. Does it look like that will ever remotely happen?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

No. We cannot capture what passes for a culture. We must capture territory and establish culture within it.

H I
H I
4 years ago

The kneeling imagery can be weaponized for us. That’s our future under them. On our knees, forever. Let them own it.

Wammins World
Wammins World
4 years ago

Totally off topic but interesting nevertheless:
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Sammy Revealed
Sammy Revealed
Reply to  Wammins World
4 years ago

To me this only shows that the old “the problem with youth violence is single-parent households” canard is probably not completely true. The map reveals that there doesn’t seem to be much correlation between high-functioning societies and two-parent households: a good chunk of Africa and the ME/Central Asia have low rates of single-parenthood yet still have some of the most dysfunctional societies on Earth.

I will concede that the near-universal single-parenthood among Afro-Americans certainly doesn’t help them.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Wammins World
4 years ago

Thanks for that. I’ve long known it was a problem. Had no idea it was so uniquely high.
To accurately update Derb.
We are Fucked.

Bill Mullins
Member
4 years ago

Say what you will about the President, but consider, if only for a moment, the alternative. As eon over at DBD put it so succintly, “If Hillary had won, Antifa and BLM would have been the Tonton Maconte to her ‘Mama Doc’.” I figure those alleged “FEMA camps” the conspiracy wackos have been hollering about forever would be operational and filling. And blogs such as this would long since have been a thing of the past. Carp all you want. In my experience the universe seldom presents us with a simple choice between good and bad. Usually the choice is… Read more »

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Bill Mullins
4 years ago

If Trump had lost, we would have suffered open borders throughout the Americas with no immigration or trade controls. This was revealed in one of the Clinton emails. That alone, even if just a lull, made it worthwhile.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Bill Mullins
4 years ago

I agree with you that under non-Trump, some of my friends would probably be in jail for crime think.

But, you must acknowledge, that Trump and the Republicans use this argument against us to demand our votes while giving us nothing.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
4 years ago

Galls the hell outta you anybody-but-Trump mokes to admit that Trump is miles better than the alternative, doesn’t it?

The horseshoe theory
The horseshoe theory
4 years ago

What a perfect example of horseshoeism:
https://twitter.com/xleasir/status/1274744801297137672

Black guy: “I couldn’t help it, it was instinct!”
Race realist white guy: “I know, I keep telling people the same thing!”
Secretly race realist lefty: “I know, that’s why I keep sending my kids to “good school districts!””
Oblivious conservative: “Ah, shucks, don’t say that, the Democrats turned you into this. It’s not your nature to react like that, bad politicians led you astray!”

Waking Up
Waking Up
Reply to  The horseshoe theory
4 years ago

This is the correct response right here: https://twitter.com/DarrenJBeattie/status/1274745294442332160 I’m disturbed how many people- including people on the right- seem to have internalized and accepted brutal violence as an acceptable reaction to mean words. Even if a racial slur or nasty word had been thrown out, physical violence as a reaction isn’t legitimate. That’s what happens when we internalize the left’s “words are violence, therefore physical reactions are legitimate” narrative. Looks like a similar thing happened not too far from the Z-man not too long ago, but never made it into the national media: https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/09/23/fatal-frederick-fair-attack-latest/ At the time, the local BLM/Antifa… Read more »

Rich
Member
4 years ago

Trump is a showman surrounded mainly by overt and covert enemies. If I walked in and saw all the empty seats at that rally I would have felt it was a bit of a dud also. A few sources say opposition bought up many seats that they never intended to use, so their plan achieved the intended deflation of enthusiasm. But I never thought that Trump is or was going to save anyone. He’s a mildly effective anti-accelerant. Don’t vote, or vote for Biden, if you want to speed up the demise of what’s left of the “system”. If Joe… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
4 years ago

Trump was the last chance to save the system within the constitution. Was a bit of a dud. So now it’s whether the coming strongman, ‘the Man after Trump’, will be one of ours or theirs. Either we or they are going to the camps and copter rides. Better them.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 years ago

If the white man hasn’t leapt up from his barcalounger and rebelled by now, he’s probably not going to. Save what you can and be glad.
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Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Official Bologna Tester
4 years ago

Hard to argue with but rebelling is changing from the bottom. I think this game is played on the top floors. I just hope there are nationalists on the upper levels so we at least have a lottery ticket.

vxxc winking cossack
vxxc winking cossack
4 years ago

Everything about Trump is post-mortem now, but so is the Office of the Presidency. The Beltway has committed, I hope you are. You are watching the collapse of National Governance. Moreover not being competent at anything but sowing chaos the Beltway have undone National Government on the question of public order. Now they don’t even notice, as the Federal Police for now are protecting them. In truth they’ve undone the police nationally, and most important the Generals refused to restore order. We don’t have a national Army that can restore order folks. We don’t have police anywhere they’re really needed.… Read more »

Someone
Someone
4 years ago

That’s an interesting idea of whether Trump was bit of a Manchurian candidate all along. It does seem odd he appoint people who are diametrically opposed to him in his alleged policy goals. I kind of like the way he has been treating washed up Mustache Man who got us into the Iraq war. Too bad he does not enough sense to kick (((Jared))) and Ivanka out of the Whitehouse advisory staff. He was also up against a number of Republicucks/grifters who are in league with the left. I did pay lower taxes under Trump and it was nice to… Read more »

jr52
jr52
4 years ago

Another solid post Zman and I agree with all of it except for the glaring addition of Jeff Sessions as someone you think is worth supporting. Sessions is a traitor that caved at the earliest sign of shitlib pressure and has shown 0 remorse for it. He had no duty to recuse but he did anyway, he had a duty to disclose to Trump that he would recuse, and even though his opponent is an open borders cuck, literally anyone deserves to be in power more than Sessions (despite his work on immigration). Even if Trump had wanted to MAGA,… Read more »

Whiskey
Whiskey
4 years ago

A couple of observations from your inveterate Blackpiller, per Kevin Michael Grace. First, the Blackpill is good and healthy for you. It gets rid of hopium, which is worst drug of all. There is no, none, nada hope of victory but the real possibility of survival. Survival is possible and by giving up on fantasies of victory one can possibly survive, with lots of luck and planning. Second, it would have been better for Hillary not Trump to have won. In victory Madame Hillary might have shown some fatigue in pursuing BadWhites into the weeds to hunt down the last… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Whiskey
4 years ago

Yep, no denying the intensity of hatred and its positive electoral effects for the freed slaves

We need to counter it with an equal passion. I think it’s there but needs a focus. And I think part of the solution will be to admit that blacks are simply bad dishonorable people. Everyone knows it deep down. Any people that thrives in mayhem and criminal inner cities is not a good and decent people. Once people accept that premise, the contours of the future will begin taking shape

Framing blacks as simply evil is what needs to be done.

b123
b123
Reply to  Whiskey
4 years ago

Agree with the Spanish. In a stunning turn of events, the Latin world will be more peaceful, prosperous, and stable than the Anglosphere.