Systemic Collapse

Note: I will be on with Joseph Cotto and Paul Gottfried this evening to discuss big-brained stuff. The show is scheduled for 7:00 PM. This is a link to their YouTube page, but I’ll add a direct link when it is available. One topic will be my post about America and Athens, but there will be other topics as well.

One thing that seems to be true of all civilizations that are in crisis is they have a period in which the laws are no longer respected by the people in power. It is not exactly a period of lawlessness, as in chaos. That certainly does happen when the crisis reaches the point when the official authority can no longer project power. Before that, there is a time when the people charged with enforcing the laws simply stop doing it on a consistent basis. The law becomes arbitrary and selective.

A good example of this is what we see with the civil unrest. Mobs of people go into the streets looting and rioting, with very little push-back from the police. The politicians carry on as if they are in support of the rioting. It’s not as if these mobs are that large or all that fearsome. The police, if given the chance, could end the riots in a few hours with a minimum of trouble. The people pulling down statues could be arrested, charged with lots of crimes and sent to a prison. Yet, it does not happen.

Part of it, for sure, is that the local politicians are taking some weird pleasure in seeing their cities destroyed. They would like to join in on the mayhem. That is obvious with the child mayor of Minneapolis. In other cases, the local politicians hate the police and refuse to let them do their jobs. Still, in many cases, the local government is paralyzed by fear and incompetence. In Atlanta, the police are in open revolt against the local authorities over the corruption of the law by the politicians.

Lost in all struggles to advance a preferred narratives is what is happening on the ground in these cities. If you are a shop owner in these areas or a resident, you now live in a lawless age. Again, it is not entirely lawless, but the law is no longer clear and predictable for you. If you, as a shop owner, shoot someone looting your store, maybe you get arrested. Maybe the looter gets arrested, if things fall the right way, but you can’t know. The law is no longer clear.

A more ominous example is what we see happening with the Silicon Valley oligopolies now controlling the public square. Recently, Google threatened to end the advertising revenue of the Federalist and Zero Hedge. They did this at the behest of NBC, who called them up and asked them to do it, because NBC did not like that they allowed users to post comments on the stories. Google does not like people expressing their opinions either, so they happily agreed to threaten both sites.

There is a term for this. It is called extortion. Using the threat of force or property damage to obtain something from another is illegal in every state. What Google and NBC did to these sites is no different than what the Mafia used to do with local business. NBC said, “that’s a nice business you have there. Shame if something were to happen to it.” Then Google came in and smashed a few things to make sure both of them knew they were serious about it.

What’s even more amazing about this story is both NBC and Google have publicly bragged about what they did. They don’t dispute that they essentially muscled these two sites like gangsters. Their public utterances are enough for the FBI to arrest the people involved and charge them with multiple counts of extortion. They could probably even begin a racketeering case against Google. There are laws on the books for exactly this situation, yet the government is silent on the matter.

A less egregious example is what we see with the tech companies de-platforming people accused of impiety. In a better time, one-way contracts were strongly discouraged and highly scrutinized by the courts. It was assumed there was an unequal relationship between the company and their customer. The court tried to balance that relationship by heavily scrutinizing the contracts involved and the actions of the company issuing the contracts. The court defended the customer.

The reverse is now true. In every area of life, people are confronted by terms of service that run contrary to our legal traditions. Domain registrars, for example, willy-nilly break their contract with users like VDare. There is no remedy, as the courts simply no longer enforce large swaths of contract law. In fact, as we see with the Supreme Court, they invent new laws and re-imagine history to justify it. The courts are now something less predictable than a flip of a coin. It’s chaos in the law.

It is tempting to explain all of this as part of some highly orchestrated plot by the usual suspects, but in reality, we are in a period of lawlessness. The people charged with enforcing the rules either refuse for factional reasons or they simply can no longer project the power they theoretically possess. In the case of the courts, it very well may be fear from people with real power. John Roberts, for example, is most likely being extorted or intimidated by powerful people.

In response to legitimate power failing to act, illegitimate power is starting to step into the void and enforce its own rules. We see this with so-called private companies trying to impose the new religion on people. The NCAA, for example, is trying to force the state of Mississippi to change its flag. Again, it is resorting to extortion and doing so without regard for the law. A big part of what they are doing is displaying their power level by brazenly threatening the duly elected government.

What we are witnessing is not a revolution. The Left would love for people to believe that, which is why they have instructed conservative media to sell that idea. Instead, we are seeing the breakdown of order. Government, either because of corruption or ineptitude, is no longer able to enforce the laws. Private power centers, no longer respecting the spirit of the laws or the legitimate power centers, are beginning to fill this void, like gangs trying to impose order when the cops are gone.

The public sees this only from the outsider point of view. The legitimate power centers like state and local government, appear to be functioning, but for some reason they are randomly failing in their basic duties. Corporations and newly minted religious authorities are suddenly able to push people around without consequence. To the average citizen it does look like a revolution, and maybe that will come, but for now it is the slow breakdown of order. The system is collapsing.


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Observer
Observer
4 months ago

Two and a half years ago I posted here that we’re headed for Mad Max and everybody here poo-poo’ed me.. Hm…

Observer
Observer
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

Ok, agreed…

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Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
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Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

I’m seeing civil war… or a five way food fight. Some tribes will have to be dealt with before any peace or order can be achieved.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Glenfilthie
4 months ago

Who are the sides of this civil war? What counteractions do you think have happened?

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

Something like the Bracken Cube here https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwesternrifleshooters.blogspot.com%2F2010%2F07%2Fbracken-cw2-cube-mapping-meta-terrain.html&psig=AOvVaw0M665-KO0k1MmA8WYT14qi&ust=1592935225314000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCPiHgqSAluoCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD estern Rifle Shooters is still around though they have not reposted the article on the new blog so you won’t find it as of yet and this image will have to do. My personal take is a bit different as it will highly depend on where you live but its close to Glen’s Mostly IMO the teams will be White Right + Friends (85%+ European Whites and Lefty Austrian Enthusiasts along with some Asians and a smattering of others including technically White Hispanics and a some Blacks) White Left +Allies (this is The… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

I asked because I am just wondering who it is that is fighting on our side and what they have done as of today. Right now we really aren’t fighting back. So it’s not really a war so much as it is us getting oppressed. It’s not a war until we start fighting back. The number of blacks who will fight on our side is infinitesimally small. Hispanics will be mostly on the other side or neutral. At best, it will only be a small portion of ‘white passing’ Hispanics that would fight for our side. Of course, all of… Read more »

Kathy
Kathy
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

Clue me in, please. Why would most Indians be against us? Hard-working, lots of engineers and entrepreneurs, close-knit families… they SHOULD be natural allies. If, as you posit, they are not, why is that?

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Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

x. The actual sides are whoever is fighting, that’s unclear at present. We know the police and army aren’t, we know the Spanish and Bikers, along with noggers and Antifa are. Don’t worry the parties just beginning. At present the elites are fine, enjoying the show with rare exceptions like CNN Atlanta, so it will continue on these many paths. To be helpful it will take a hard year of real widespread fighting to even start to firm up the sides. Even if we’re blessed to getting down to 2 sides they will then need 2-3 years to get organized… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout

If things were to get that bad, might as well pepper up the scenario. How about foreign invasion? I can’t see Canada invading, eh? Nor Mexico, she sends her excess population here already. Widesperad disorder in the (former?) USA might be too tempting for a major power like China or Russia to resist. Perhaps not a land invasion, but selective bombing to take out any remaining military power we might have. Troubled times indeed.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

Am reading The Fall of Rome by Ward-Perkins as easy relaxing night reading. Z—You are spot on. “There will be some central authority and some legitimate local authority, but tribal power will prevail for most people.” “Because the military position of the imperial government in the 5th Century was weak, and because the Germanic invaders could be appeased, the Romans on occasion made treaties with particular groups, formally granting them territory on which to settle in return for their alliance.”–The Fall of Rome Let’s appease by giving them the center of Seattle. The inner cities become Africa? Will the imperial… Read more »

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

And yet, as the cities disintegrated, the lower class lived longer and was healthier. A serf had a better diet than the poor in cities. The literacy rate went down but it wasn’t high anyway.

Now ask yourself, are cities healthy? They certainly are inhibiting our reproduction rate. Are we healthy, the country is morbidly obese, testosterone levels have cratered, we eat garbage coated in sugar.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Tykebomb
4 months ago

Is it coincidence that, worldwide, only recently did the majority of Earth’s teeming populace now live in cities? Recall there are close to 8 Billion of us now. My kindergarten view of world history is: during growth of civilizations, the peons move to the town or city seeking the better life. Stadtluft macht frei. Not taught to the wee ones is that like everything else, nothing lasts. This is one thing Buddhism has right: the “noble truth” of impermanence, arising and ceasing. There is a lifespan, and cultures, countries and civilizations come and go. While it apparently hasn’t happened in… Read more »

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Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 months ago

Life is simply a series of waystations of place and situation. We don’t get stability in those waystations, as we did in the “old days”, where one could establish himself and spend his whole life in one place, successfully doing one thing. The earth shifts quickly under our feet now, and we need to get ourselves oriented to that.

Moss
Member
Reply to  Dutch
4 months ago

Dutch, what do you believe causes(ed) the earth shifting? Is a focused effort to return to some traditional lifestyle able to stop the “shift”?
I’m operating out of the belief that my decisions going forward could have legacy effects that minimize my kid’s need to chase the job / mammon. The chaos of late has changed my priorities drastically. Suddenly the homestead with plenty of land available for kids and grandkids seems valuable.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Moss
4 months ago

The difference is that “back in the day”, Americans generally aspired to the white-bread culture, complete with nice public spaces, an expectation of general courtesy to all by all, and a settled mythos of Columbus/1776/Washington/Lincoln. People knew how to operate and how to live under such a thing. All of that has been yanked out from under us now. The behavioral models are ghetto, the mythos is being forcibly torn apart, and the nice and peaceful public spaces and public interactions have been destroyed. We need to adapt to the new things, and, frankly, I cannot imagine raising a family… Read more »

Moss
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Reply to  Dutch
4 months ago

Thanks, Dutch. I see the loss of trust clearly.

Personally, I am up to six game plans

I’ve only got two plans. Both are messy and due to the complexity of my situation, involve retreat and regrouping first. The Passport Plan was discussed recently, so perhaps I’ve got 2.1 plans. Short sighted it seems after reading you’ve got six!

ExNativeSon
ExNativeSon
Reply to  Dutch
4 months ago

I agree that the last tatters of the veneer of the heritage American ethos and culture have been been torn off in the last few months and having lived in Brazil see that culture becoming the dominant reality for urban America quickly in some places and slower in others. I am glad that you live in places isolated from the drama and can make plans appropriately. I am also “watching, thinking, and game-planning” but mine is much tougher because I do not have my family on board. So the actions I have taken are very piecemeal and not connected. I… Read more »

b123
b123
Reply to  ExNativeSon
4 months ago

to where, though?

I’m in Canada. Young and single. There’s really nowhere to go. I’m currently living among the enemy, my neighborhood is now 70% non-white.
White flight has never gotten us anywhere in the past.

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ExNativeSon
ExNativeSon
Reply to  b123
4 months ago

I certainly feel your pain. I have lived in ghettos when I was a child. After I was on my own at 20 I was able to move where I wanted to move for graduate schools or work without thinking of vibrancy. But that was way back in the day. I am also retired from primary employment although I usually am working on short term paid projects primarily to help out my children afford a life free of vibrancy. They know my views and history but will admit to no clue of what is coming for them. They have spent… Read more »

robb
robb
Reply to  Dutch
4 months ago

Great sentiments. what countries or at least regions of the world, do you see as best? which places in the US?

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Dutch
4 months ago

This is explored very well in this long-form essay:

https://theamericansun.com/2020/06/18/the-social-collapse-of-complex-societies/

Exile
Exile
Reply to  BadThinker
4 months ago

I saw that when it first dropped. For all that I have my own issues with the conservative mindset, the author of the think-piece they comment on is really trying to build a castle on sand. The part about having to accommodate the deconstructed, ever-changing modern family is the worst aspect. For all that we can’t just go back to some past era, denying biology on both the racial and family structure level isn’t workable no matter how much you demand we eschew tradition.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Exile
4 months ago

Yep. I particularly liked this bit:

Thanks to a grossly prolonged and cloistered education consisting of self-righteous busywork, the modern credentialed mind, crown of human historical intellect, expresses its visionary morals by ordering the bad man to stop being mean, as if mutual distrust and lack of cooperation among competing groups can be reduced to the moral failings of the raging, inbred xenophobe, most likely clad in overalls, who, if only he possessed self-restraint like the ancients, would welcome anyone and anything into his society, community, neighborhood and family.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Dutch
4 months ago

like living on a boat in other words

some people can handle it

Most can’t

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Tykebomb
4 months ago

Amen to that Brother!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

I have argued all along that the best outcome of the situation in Seattle would be for it to successfully secede and become a city state. Perhaps Trump will tacitly allow that to happen. One can hope.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

Here’s a crazy idea: don’t give them shit.

Appease them by sending them back to from whence they came.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Calsdad
4 months ago

CD…I get your frustration….reality says to me You try and start a campaign to vacuum them up and send them back. Don’t see a single ruling overlord yet will send them or anyone back except us. Remember what Bill Ayers wanted for you and me. Re-education camps or become daisy fertilizer. You have a big brain CD but we should have picked our own cotton. We didn’t. The caissons loaded with gibs and free stuff are rolling out as we think and make arguments. Best to you!

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Calsdad
4 months ago

The only remotely similar thing I’ve ever heard about (and visited) is a commune in Copenhagen. Christiania
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania
You can read the article if you like. I visited in 1995. The Danes then and probably now are cvilized, certainly compared to USA. Then the city was mostly white, but notable (guessing) Mid-Easterners. Relevant to Seattle, add any Vibrancy to a commune as would happen in the USA and peaceful coexistence probably won’t last long before the shootings start. Oh, you say that’s already happening? Too bad 🙁

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

íViva el Cid! 😀

Xman
Xman
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

Speaking of Spain… I hope we have a Gen. Franco somewhere, because we’re gonna need him…

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

Sounds like Liberia

SidVic
SidVic
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Reply to  Observer
4 months ago

That surprises me. hell, half of us are crackpot preppers and hoarding heirloom seeds and looking into beekeeping.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

Sid….am curious why you equate preparedness with nuttiness? Preparedness is a gradient (been in the water industry too long) not all Ruby Ridge. Just curious why the dislike?

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

Everything I have seen of preppers indicate that they are insane. The scene is permeated with consumerism. Preppers are constantly doing reviews of knives, fire-starters, pre-packaged meals, axes and other stuff you can buy. Comes across as kind of pathetic. Not all disasters are equally likely. Not all likely things are equally likely in different places. Where I live tornadoes are almost unheard of, but 3 foot snow nor’easters can and do happen. Bug out bags full of toilet-paper, fire-starters, axes and knives are not going to be much help in the event I get snowed in for a week.… Read more »

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

Wow….that’s animosity. Like I asked Sid and now you, that’s a huge reaction. What button is pushed? Why so much anger? I no get. They are not swinging their arms and hitting you. Hell, I’m reacting to Jamal more than people consumed with prepping. Why give a shit about them? They’re not taking food from your mouth and they’re not Jamal breaking down the door. Again, there is a degree of preparedness. Basic Husband and I are “prepared” for some civilisational bumps and not prepared for humongous bumps and bumps we choose to ignore or are ignorant of. I and… Read more »

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SidVic
SidVic
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Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

Well as you say it’s a gradation. And you can be counterproductive if you become immoderate just like any pursuit. For instanse, my father took the largest chunk of his fathers inheritance and bought silver bullion back in the day. He would have been much much better off plowing that into the stock market, but the collapse was imminent you see. Financial guys get this because they have seen many guy go broke betting short on something like japan’s bond market. They know it’s coming but it doesn’t materialize in thier timeframe. see the zerohedge motto. Funnily dad started to… Read more »

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

Sid….you have guts man. It is personal, I get it. Thanks for your background. I understand your defensive stance and protect that. Am not trying to talk you out of your reaction. Just know some of us didn’t give away the homestead and have made preparations slowly that didn’t hurt the budget. WTSHTF you can come to my house and eat my food! In return, you give me good conversation and change the cat box.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

Anger? What anger? You asked why people don’t take preppers seriously and I attempted to answer the question. Are you saying you don’t think there are people, for example, on YT, claiming they are preppers and doing what I said I have seen them do? Am I imagining 10 years of rice and bean storage here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Spig3yi1dQ I am not “angry” about dullard preppers. I myself keep storage of certain foodstuffs and try to stock up on stuff on sale. I have radios and batteries to power them. I have lights and fuel and batteries to power them. I have… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

Tars, you have a point. I’ve floated around the prepper scene for nearly 20 years now and honestly, the best preppers I’ve seen (excluding defense) are the hippie-dippie permaculture compost types. They often live the lifestyle from soap making to bee keeping. The Appalachia variant are on par minus “the community” support aspect that the hippies have. A lot of modern suburban prepping is “gear-queer” showoffery. Not all but a lot. I’ve met preppers that have the latest fluted titanium floating barrel on their ARs which on sheer specs far exceed the skills of any shooter, much less the pre-diabetic… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 months ago

I could not agree more. I would say maybe 20 years ago prepping was a much different scene. A lot of these guys liked going into the woods (which I myself do) and some would do review of that gear occasionally. Most of it prepping was skills based and lot of it was, as you say, around a hobby. People made soap or candles and the like. A lot of “guy stuff” like running a gas engine from wood-gas is a good example. Or homemade windmills. At times it appeared as a rationalization for doing fun things like that. But… Read more »

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

Like I said, it’s a gradient. Not all people who are prepared are 10 on the Richter Scale. Everything you said pertains to “some” people who prep.You’re annoyed with these people. You still haven’t gotten around to what the button is that sends you into annoyance. You and I have a lot more in common than end times preppers. You and I don’t get our knickers in a twist about the religious nuts who kill themselves in sneakers. So why bother with end-game preppers? Just look at them as a bit empty and prepping gives them purpose. Lots of people… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

I don’t think about them. I was answering a question. Granted, is not posed directly to me, but I thought it sounded interesting. It’s not even like I disagree with preppers. But like everything else, people go nuts with it. There is fakeness to it. People who buy a homestead and go live on it, to me, are a lot more respectable than the idiots posing on youtube (which is where most of my exposure comes from. It used to be blogs, but there are none that I have perused lately) and reviewing or shilling the latest product. Whether it… Read more »

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

Honey….now I see you….good. You make sense now. You took the time to explain to me what tricks you off. Understando (am practicing pidgeon Spanish). I hope you took in my point that those type of preppers are filling a hole inside them by making a material purpose. You’re way past that.

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tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

Yes. Obviously clown world does that to people.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

Honey….now I see you….good. You make sense now. You took the time to explain to me what tricks you off. Understando (am practicing pidgeon Spanish). I hope you took in my point that those type of preppers are filling a hole inside them by creating a material purpose. It’s one thing to be prepared; it’s another to cater to Fear the Mind Killer. You’re way past that. Thank you for your effort to clarify. Ha! Now you see a dynamic in the Range household. Him: I don’t know why I said what I said. I don’t want to talk any… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

Tars, Dont get me wrong… if you have the excess means to buy good gear and MREs… by all means do so. But if my choices for TEOTW are a redneck deadeye with a .22 showing up with a brace of squirrels, the ability to make moonshine and hotwire a car, and his Wiccan baby momma who knows medicinal herbs… or the mid-level exec that moonlights as a prepper with his custom AR-10, 20 rounds of ammo, and a 300,000 lumin flashlight for which he is frantically reading the instructions… well, I’m going with the crackshot cracker and the witch.… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

Its a misinterpretation of what is going on . Most of us grew up in a consumer society and talking about what we bought is essentially status whoring for Joe Sixpack Besides people like to share and the risks of saying “I have a cool knife you might like.” on YouTube is really low risk and might score some swag. These days prepping is mainstream and commonplace enough you can buy dried food at any Big Box in the boonies. That said old fashioned rural preps aren’t for the most part something that needs to be shared. Yes I have… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

Not much I disagree with there.
The way I see it is that there are people who see the problems we see (even if not from our viewpoint) and have an intuitive (if not explicit) understanding that there might be problems. These people do what they can to be as prepared as possible, maybe occasionally doing stuff that seems excessive. But these are the people I am not talking about.

Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

These are my thoughts on prepping. I’m trapped in a small apartment right now. I barely have room for furniture, much less endless prepper supplies. This isn’t by choice but can’t be fixed right now. The problem I have is being trapped where we can’t save enough to escape (Portland, OR area) and knowing no one else around who cares about what’s happening except for those of my neighbors who are on the wrong side. My wife might soon have an opportunity to take a job in Phoenix, AZ. The rents are lower there and it would certainly be nice… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  pozymandias
4 months ago

I know Portland is pretty left wing, but isn’t it mostly white? While it certainly comes with its own problems, not being around diversity is probably the most important thing you can do if you see something akin to 1947 India. Better still, is they don’t need to pass through Oregon on their way to Central and South America or Puerto Rico. Personally, I see economics as the bigger risk (more likely to happen in the next 10 years). The race war just seems very unlikely in the immediate future without severe economic disruption. This crap has been happening since… Read more »

Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 months ago

It certainly is white. The problem is that almost everyone is a deracinated virtue sniveling lefty and the city itself is now unlivable as well as so expensive we can’t really afford to live here anymore. Think San Francisco with fewer gays, slightly fewer homeless, and much shittier weather. I can easily see Portland’s downtown being taken over by the same communists who seized Seattle. I don’t think those people would last long in AZ. Literally and figuratively they couldn’t take the heat. There’s also a problem that I keep running into which is that virtually ALL of the “tech” jobs here are… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

well, guess it a technique. i am an academician. I suspect the waters i swim in would be like a moonscape to you.
probaly hard to believe, but some consider me eccentric. If one calls oneself a crackpot a in self-depreciating manner you stay a harmless eccentric. If you stockpile weapons and speak darkly of the coming collapse you sound dangerous. If you keep it light and airy, you can get away with alot. haha, you’re not a beekeeper are you? Did i hit too close to home. my apologies if i did. you one of my favorites.

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SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

Like the business I’m in, it is merely an assessment of probabilities. Our term of art for actuarial purposes is “tail events”. You adjust your “preparedness” based on the probabilities of different events–based on geography and current events. It would differ from case to case. And you allocate resources devoted based on that.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

Prepping is many things. My 2 cents are that the right prepping, for your situation, is a very, very good idea. The way I see it, prepping is akin to survivalism but openended. In survival training you often learn that your first four priorities are medical (are you hurt, do you need to bandage something etc), shelter, water and food, in that order. If there are hostiles (or alternatively dangerous animals, effectively a lion or grizzly is a non-human hostiles), avoiding contact w them moves up to the front. Among things I find incredibly sensible are food for a long… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Observer
4 months ago

Things will get real when whites realize legitimate government power is finished. Can’t respect authority when there is none. We’ll have to build a new one.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

I’m throwing my hat in the ring for warlord. The quaratine has given me delusions of grandeur. Actually, that chaz may have inadvertently shown us the way out. I wonder what would happen if whites declared a autonomous zone, say west virginia, and picked a warlord to run the place.

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

National guard. If that didn’t work army. If that didn’t work ……you get the idea. We are going to be much more circumspect than that at first, unless we are led by madmen.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  ronehjr
4 months ago

I take it I don’t gete ur vote for warlord? Fine, when my candidicy for warlord is sucessful your accss to my stable of concubines (all the women in WV between ages of 17-25) will be severely limited.

Mycroft Jones
Mycroft Jones
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

What kind of idiot warlord lets ANY man have access to his harem of concubines?

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Mycroft Jones
4 months ago

Its power politics bub. Plus only on days 20-30 of thier cycle. Butt-out

Charles St. Charles
Charles St. Charles
Reply to  ronehjr
4 months ago

Re: Army and National Guard now contains disproportionately high numbers of blacks and Hispanics. If you send SGT Quintonius into his old hood and tell him to shoot Shaquan, his loyalties may become conflicted. Maybe some White officers accidentally get shot in the back somehow, um jes sayin…

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Charles St. Charles
4 months ago

The Military: hard to predict how they’d act in a system breakdown scenario. The military is heavily Southern. 57% white, 16% black, 16% Hispanic. In a mutiny situation, I’d expect factions rapidly would form along racial lines. The services actually are the better portion of the population, increasingly so with the more melanin. 40% of Blacks are too stupid to even enlist, 30% of Latinos, 15% of Whties (roughly, only considers High School Grads). Regardless of race, you could rest assured they would not be friendly to civilians, that language in the Bill of Rights notwithstanding. On the other hand,… Read more »

The Right Doctor
Reply to  ronehjr
4 months ago

Think Camp of the Saints. Nuke.

By the way, I think the medium-term goal of the statue-pullers is to delegitimatize the Constitution as written by slave-approvers and then get rid of it.

I know that document is no longer operative, but this move, which I expect by the end of the year if Trump wins, will shake a big group of whites our way.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

Why would they announce it to the world if they have?

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

SidVic,

Will consider it. Have a few questions first. Will you have dental and medical? Obviously profit-sharing but stock options? Can I opt out of rapine (not my cup of tea and Mrs. P would surgically reduce my T level) if I really throw myself at the whole pillage and plunder part of the job? Finally, as a Scots descendant I’m quite comfortable in wool but I find leather chaffing… will there be allowances for warlord henchmen uniform variations? Thanks in advance for your consideration.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 months ago

FYI Penitent Man

Im at the hospital getting a stress test, and while waiting, am reading the blog. Your comment responding to Sid regarding conditions for your vote made me laugh out loud and have difficulty breathing.

the Drs and nurses think I’m nuts.

Thank you for the satisfying laugh!

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
4 months ago

Bartleby,

Health to you, Sir. If SidVic offers a telecommute-friendly horde environment I’m definitely interested.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 months ago

Medical and Dental are covered, but necessarily primitive. I have a buddy that is a vet, but to be honest, i’m a little concerned about his range of treatment modalities. Most appear to involve “putting em down”. Finally, as alluded to above, access to the harem is the primary reward for supporters. Except the redheads, those are reserved for me and the most accomplished redheaded warriors. Part of our mission statement will include conserving the highly recessive redheaded genes in thier purest form.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

Mrs. P is already a redhead and mostly Scandi/Irish so I’m good on no access to the harem. I’ll opt out but take inner-circle “reward” (if I merit that) in full access to the horde-espresso-capucino machine in lieu. I feel like we could really be a good team (well, you know… warlord/henchman arrangement) and look forward to seeing some of your employment brochures.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 months ago

A redhead you say? hmm

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

Past breeding age. Dont get any ideas Warlord. Hate to upset that dynastic cart you are planning before it even has a chance to get harnessed to a team. 😁

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 months ago

Dude….way visual! You and Mrs. P sit down for an evening watching The Warlord/Charlton Heston, and a hefty bribe to Mrs. P so you can get about learning to pillage, and the advantage of The Privilege of the Gentry Warlord. Ahhum…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

Range,

Thanks for the tip on the Heston film. Mrs. P is a bit new-age and I laid it on too hard with having her watch “Vikings” (the newer series). She insists her ancestors were simple sea-faring farm folk that were invited to Dalriada by welcoming Saxons and Celts. Me pinning her down and forcing her eyes open to watch the “blood eagle” scene while yelling “farmers my ass!” might have been too much. And we’ve met… you know I always strive to be gentlemanly. But seriously… sea-faring farm folk? My ass.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 months ago

Oh good Lord! Just slipped off the bed laughing! You wise man you! Basic Husband has remnants of red hair and whitey white freckles. After reading Cornwell’s Uhtred series, I tease him the Vikings certainly stopped in his East Brit village and had their way.

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

We would have to brand it as something other than “white.” Going all white separatist at this early stage would be suicidal.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

good piont. We will make it a spooky hillbilly enclave. No mention of race at all. If cameras arrive it will be necessary to black out every other tooth and throw on a dirty pair of overalls or the henchmen uniforms that PM mentioned. Hell we will actually actively recruit blacks, just in a ham-fisted and uncool way. I don’t really joke here. I have being laying on the spooky appalacian shit for years now. It works, blacks are terrified to come here. Sometimes i will see a black guy at a interstate gas station and screw with him for… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

I’ll stop now. I think actually slipped into real campaign mode for a moment. Who knew warlord larping could be so much fun.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

Heh. Coincidentally, I watched Deliverance, for the umpteenth time, Saturday night. It’s a perfect film. And I’ll take Aintree, even under a lake, over Seattle every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

Now let’s you just drop them pants 😀

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 months ago

Heh.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

Damn! Do we have to smell like the DMV too? A bridge too far.

Moss
Member
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

Sid, you’ve got my vote if you’ll provide a Paige for carrying weapons and things, maybe some transportation (horse? donkey? MadMax vehicle?), and have a BBQ now and then.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

“Legitimate government ” was the weapon they have been using for more than a century to undermine and alter all of our institutions and culture. We’ve been manipulated into wars, into mortgaging our future and that of our children and grandchildren, traditional communities have been atomized so effectively that we now have more meaningful relationships with fictional characters on television than we do with our neighbors, our families and our friends. Through legitimate government we have been enslaved to the needs of the market and we’ve been bamboozled into handing over our civilization to savages and parasites. So now their… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Yves Vannes
4 months ago

“Consent of the governed” was always the phrase and considerable money and effort was expended manufacturing the illusion of such consent.
Either the desire or capacity for such Prestidigitation has gone. I’ve been ranting at the few who will listen (And I suspect that the dog never really understood) for several years that civilizational collapse was first, nigh, lately starting, but I had no idea that a return to pre-enlightenment mores could be accomplished in 6 months just because of the flu.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Yves Vannes
4 months ago

I. subvert the government

II. demoralize the people so they can’t tell the difference

III. have your way

Yep, collapse, and yep, thank God. If that’s what it takes, so be it.

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Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

One schism that’s going to afflict our side for a considerable time is that ppl, otherwise on the same side of the big issues, will arrive at the conclusion that ‘legitimate’ power is dead and that ‘vigilante’ power is therefore legitimate, at very different rates. Some will be using force on their own for understandable reason while others will condemn this as ‘criminal’. And this will be a tough issue to agree to disagree on. I’m personally moving towards ‘it’s soon cowboy land and you are morally entitled to use your own force instead of running to the undependable and… Read more »

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

Not sure how it’ll work. All I know is white people can’t stand a lack of peace and good order in the neighborhood. That’ll help move things along.

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Frip
Member
Reply to  Observer
4 months ago

This is one of the most black-pilled comment sections around. And you’re gonna act like your black-pilled comment was “poo-poo’ed”? Your Mad Max scenario is pretty much predicted here about 50 times a day.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Frip
4 months ago

LOL And your point is…..Join the crowd!

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
4 months ago

But, “RECORD LOW BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT,” amirite?

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

If you include rapine and pillaging as employment.Then the numbers still hold up. Come on meme, don’t be so concerned with Trumps election. All the conservative Boomers tell me, barring cheating, it is the bag. PS this saxon has begun to hate, i can assure you. saw your blackpill comment.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

Trump getting his ass kicked in November will merely bring home to the Breitbart set what we’ve known for months. And those Saxons don’t hate anything other than their rascal scooters running out of charge.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

Funny story. One of my nieces had a birthday recently. She set up one of those in-lieu-of presents accounts on facebook with donations to go to a BLM outfit. Being an asshole, i was the only one to comment. I expressed concern that my donotion might be used to buy gasoline to burn down a police station. She raisied a total of 25 dollars (out of 300$). I strongly suspect her little cuck boyfriend contributed that. My little branch of the saxon tree has begun to hate, at least.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

Too bad the in-lieu-of-presents account didn’t work with both pluses and minuses – like the comments here do.

Because that would have really revealed the truth.

Ian Smith
Ian Smith
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

The cope for them is going to be to blame it on China. My parents are about midway between us and the Breitbart crowd and they think China intentionally gave us the virus to hurt Trump. Plus, it’s more comforting for Boomers with a Cold War mindset to fixate on a foreign Big Bad than to admit to how dire the domestic situation is.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

I’d like to see “pillage” make a comeback in common usage. Alway thought it a wonderfully encompassing term.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  SamlAdams
4 months ago

I was in a museum in Kuala Lumpur back in the 90s and they had on display a device called an “Amok Catcher”. It was an iron bar that forked out into a two foot wide pincer with barbs on the inside. It was used by the constabulary to catch persons “running amok”. That’s another term that needs to be revived.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  KGB
4 months ago

maybe a nice little thesis to explore usage of words as this collapse progresses. Alot of medieval terms may make a comeback. I’ve already heard dane geld thrown around some.

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SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  KGB
4 months ago

Big fan of the Halligan Bar. Was pretty damn good at using one to solve all sorts of problems in a different profession. But a mill file to the spike end and you’ve got a pretty good melee weapon.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  SamlAdams
4 months ago

Good show. i had to look that up. It occurs also a good shibboleth for identifing old firefighters or law enforcement types.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  SamlAdams
4 months ago

That’s one of Basic Husband’s many tools! Now I know.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  KGB
4 months ago

I keep looking for Scold’s Bridles to no avail.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Bilejones
4 months ago

Look harder.

Any decent sex shop will have a leather or similar one if you are going for that muzzled handmaiden thing.
If not any kink friendly metal worker can make you one.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

I suppose a freind told you all that esoteric and highly specific information? Blacksmiths? who knew?

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

Girls….notice we’re not commenting. We’re just whistling past the graveyard!

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

Poor RFF. Has to pretend other girls read these threads. Nope you are the only one../ and it’s OK.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  SamlAdams
4 months ago

I like “plunder” because my cheeks puff out when I say it and if I use a deep voice I sound kinda like Sebastian Gorka.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Hoagie
4 months ago

Asked Basic Husband to talk in his deep voice dirty Russian to me, but it’s just not working.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

Then threaten to recruit authentic russian. You will have the poor sap speaking fluent russian in no time. Come on folks. Am i teh only one around here that understands power politics?

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

The current crop of the “woke” + oligarchs sees that as a bug not a feature.

David Wright
Member
4 months ago

Well at least for today I have had the opportunity to read your blog. How much longer?

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

Don’t be so sure, Z. The guys that are ascending to power now are the kinds of people that kill millions when they get rolling…

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Glenfilthie
4 months ago

Look no further than the recent comments about deplorables made by Kamala Harris, a vibrant woman whose sole achievement in life is opening her legs for Willie Brown.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 months ago

don’t sell her short. i hear she has made many accomplishments, with many powerful men, in many positions, both natural and unnatural.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

To think they were seriously pushing her for president. Our first whore pres. Or would that be JFK. Nah he a a whore monger. Hey, another under-utilized word poised for a comeback!

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

Uh, if Biden makes her his Veep there is more than a chance she will be President in a few years.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 months ago

Getting wildly unsuited people into positions of power is part of the game. It is an element of the contempt exercised by the powers-that-be over the rest of us. It is no accident that an addled dementia case is being offered up this time. They are letting us eat cake, they are.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

The very names Kamala and Obama are symbolic of America’s descent into the Third World abyss.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
4 months ago

They will “try” to. And get killed in the process.

BerndV
BerndV
Reply to  Glenfilthie
4 months ago

The fact that Amren is still on YouTube is rather puzzling. I know that Jared is not a fan of the JQ and will not participate in discussions regarding civil unrest. Explanations?

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  BerndV
4 months ago

I think you answered your own question.

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

I hear Cacapon is nice this time of year.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

You trust your domain registrar more than VDare could trust theirs?

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

Start learning about the Tor (dark web) browser.

https://www.torproject.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_%28anonymity_network%29

It’s not perfect. It was invented by the Navy. If you use it, the government will probably be able to detect you. But it’s the best tool we have now if the domain registrars starts deplatforming us.

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tremain
tremain
Reply to  LineInTheSand
4 months ago

TOR is a complete trap. Lots of exit nodes run by various US govt depts and of the other large ones who knows who owns them?
It was pushed by Snowden and Applebaum and the rest of the fake whistleblowers.
Its entire design was so they could practice monitoring encrypted packet routing and hide their own packets in the noise.
Do not use it unless you want to be flagged for future investigation.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  David Wright
4 months ago

Soon to follow state terror will be unleashed on anyone who comments or even just reads blogs or sites outside the bounds of officially permitted discussion. That is those that remain.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Well all this foreplay is getting rather tedious.

Moss
Member
Reply to  David Wright
4 months ago

Bison Prepper went ahead and self-sensored. I signed up for his mailed CD posts. I think smoke signals and Morse Code may make a comeback!

Shrugger
Shrugger
4 months ago

I’m expecting cash to get scarce as more and more small businesses find ways to dodge federal, state, and local taxes by moving more transactions to cash.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Shrugger
4 months ago

the war on cash is a front that has been active for quite a while. Big tech and big finance are fully on board with taking cash out of the system. The youngsters are already all-in. The covid no-cash trend is another move toward this new normal. But yes, figuring out how to operate within and without the system is a huge part of the future for our side. Which is why our archipelago of communities will have to figure out an economy of our own, for our own.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Screwtape
4 months ago

The time to worry is when the Melanic Hominids® and others in the drug and related underground trades only accept credit or debit cards.:D

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Shrugger
4 months ago

If “Biden” wins and the Left assumes power, look for a rapid transition to be imposed toward a cashless society. What redoubts of financial independence remain will be extinguished.

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SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Expect private ownership of gold to be outlawed…again

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  SamlAdams
4 months ago

Nah, no real point in that since the dollar was disconnected from gold long ago.

Whenever they need to, they just print up a couple trillion and give the bulk of it to their friends and a token to the peasants to try to keep them quiet.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

You’re so 1970’s. They don’t “print up” money except a few billion for circulation. Now they press a button and it magically appears and is “transacted” into the appropriate accounts. You do believe in magic, don’t you? In the last 3 months the fed has “created” 3-4 trillion in Chink Flu relief for the damage they caused the economy. Do you think with the collapsing economy of China they bought those “loans”? Or Americans ? No way Jose, that sir is magic. The Weimar collapsed because they actually had to print the worthless script and physically hand it out but… Read more »

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Hoagie
4 months ago

Yes, “print” is just a figure of speech. *eyeroll*

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Hoagie
4 months ago

You want to know what’s crazy. The trend to deflation is so bad printing our way out of our problems, dumping near a year of GDP into the system won’t even work. What happens is all the extra money goes into getting rid of debt (including stock buy backs here) paying basic bills and into savings. The US savings rate is the highest its ever been and even an end to all lock downs won’t restore the consumer economy. Give a man a dollar, it goes to debt relief or into the bank. Eventually most consumer debt will be paid… Read more »

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

“Ultimately consumption will decline vastly and I think the new normal will be Neither a Borrower nor a Lender be and Do I Really Need That?”

Never underestimate the power of fixed habits / amnesia / stupidity and of course greed. “Shop till you drop” is in the blood. Americans are not going to let a little pandemic / economic collapse slow them down. Right now, people are buying stock from bankrupt companies that admit their stock is worthless. 😲💸😭
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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Official Bologna Tester
4 months ago

True but enough people are getting creamed and at least one committed suicide over it to make the point.
Also so many people are unemployed, underemployed or faced wage arbitrage they can’t buy.
Banks also won’t lend eve though awash in cash.
There will still be idiots but things will change.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Back in 2016 I read an article about, and I’m stretching memory here, a venerable old leftist professor (writer?) that was urging no quarter for “conservatives” after Hillary’s assumed win later that year. He urged a complete shunning and destruction of Traditionalists in America. It read like a playbook for today’s nonsense, only she didnt win. Have searched but apparently can’t find the right search words.

Anyone else remember that story and if so can you post the link?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 months ago

Sounds like something Noel Ignatiev would have written. That said, the vast majority of profs hold views similar to Ignatiev’s, so the possible author list is truly massive.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

Found him. It was Mark Tushnet. I misremembered, he was focused on liberals unabashedly attacking evangelicals and conservatives.

But looked up Noel Ignatiev. Tiny hat, of course. Passed away, Devil take him.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
4 months ago

I didn’t realize he was dead. Thanks for spreading the good news.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

I suspect not as even mostly cashless and highly White Sweden is telling people to keep currency since systems everywhere are failing,

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Shrugger
4 months ago

I once heard a russian say that he knew it was getting bad because all these we-buy-gold places started popping up. That happed here about 10yrs ago.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
4 months ago

When the police and local authorities stand down when vandalism, looting and arson takes place, it makes them complicit in the crime. No, even worse, it makes them accessories since they are implicitly threatening any law-abiding citizen who intervenes with arrest or death. It is anarcho-tyranny as has been defined by early observers on the Dissident Right.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Anarchy-tyranny, coined by Sam Francis. I always like to give him credit, since his greatness was underappreciated when he was alive. He saw all of this coming.

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 months ago
Starboard
Starboard
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 months ago

Take Tucker’s challenge if you think the ruling class won’t stand up to rioters. Imagine the rioters being Tea Party people and the administration being Obama’s. Do you think he’d hesitate to use force to save the MLK statue and the Federal Reserve Bank building?

Do you think armed separatists in Fort Worth or Wheeling would get a pass?

It’s only Republicans who lack legitimacy in Current Year America, because the masses — and they themselves — question their full fidelity to our ruling precept that “all men are equal.”

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Starboard
4 months ago

Republicans are part of the system. The GOPe job to is say “Let my guys have a few more years to loot before we go Wakanda meets Cuba.”
White Right rioters OTOH would present an actual threat to the system.
Obviously, don’t do stupid illegal stuff but if you could get that going with enough people to matter , why would you bother? You’d have an enough men for an insurgency and some serious El Sendero Luminoso style shenanigans instead of being a bunch of shitheads destroying stuff and waving signs.

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 months ago

Sam Francis may have been underappreciated by the larger population, but those of us who knew and read him loved him. My God, if only he were still with us. I would love to hear his take on the goings on today.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 months ago

You’re absolutely correct, Mark. Here are some comments at the time of his death: When Sam Francis unexpectedly passed away on February 15, 2005, Congressman John Duncan (R-Tenn.), in his eulogy on the floor of the House stated, “I admired his courage. He was politically incorrect on almost everything, which made him right on most things.” Thomas Fleming, editor of Chronicles magazine, remarked, “In so many ways he was the opposite of most conservatives. He rarely talked a good game, but he always played one.” Vladimir Palko, Minister of the Interior of the Slovak Republic, said Sam Francis’s “views and comments on… Read more »

Observer
Observer
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Ok, so this contributor, Jack Dobson, gets it. Bravo, sir, you’re among the few that can see how it works. But we are ultimately doomed, because there aren’t enough Jack Dobsons. Too many of you here suffer from “cop love” and believe the boys-in-blue won’t be coming for you. How sadly mistaken you’ll be.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Observer
4 months ago

Thanks but I haven’t noticed much cop love on this blog. In fact, Z was one of the first on the DR to point out the military and law enforcement are not our friends.

Observer
Observer
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

To any of you that don’t get this, consider… a restaurant in Texas tries to sell a hamburger and gets a military assault… parts of a US city are occupied and crickets. Can it be more clear???

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Observer
4 months ago

Go over to powerline blog (it’s out of minneapolis) and read the comments or, better yet, leave a few. I think the scales have begun to fall from a few eyes.

Observer
Observer
Reply to  SidVic
4 months ago

It needs to be crystal clear and widely understood that LEO can play paddy-cake with the soy boys all day and night while they destroy the cities but anyone coming out to the country to F with the free citizens will not all be going home

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Observer
4 months ago

Bingo.

The red areas need to open up and stay open.

Anyone who attempts to interfere needs to be made an example of in the worst possible way.

Starboard
Starboard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Hmmm, let’s antagonize cops and grunts from dissident politics. After all they just have the most real world experience with the Floyd Georges and Achmed Suckdishes of the planet.

Sounds like a plan. Not a good one, but a plan.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Starboard
4 months ago

City cops usually aren’t on our side anyway.
Most are on are on the paycheck and pension side.
Once that goes away or too many of their buddies un up lifers for legit shoots or pased over for a brainless Dindu needing a social promotion they’ll reconsider but for now most will follow orders.
There are exceptions, some police and whole departments have a good rep with regular folks and many rural sheriffs are on our side.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

Probably remember this from a movie or a novel. If we get into some serious civil disorder where Whites are forming vigilante groups, I hope the local law will have the good sense to keep out of their way, lest they get hurt.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Starboard
4 months ago

Most grunts and cops have been pozzed in recent years. Obviously those who haven’t been are tremendous potential assets.

observer
observer
Reply to  Starboard
4 months ago

Starboard, I was once like you. For decades I thought that exact same thing. So, what has it gotten you? What has it gotten us? What has appeasement achieved ? When your skull cracks under an LEO baton, what difference will it have made that you offered an “olive branch” to the the LEOs? Wake up my friend

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Observer
4 months ago

Not really. A great many dissidents from WRSA to Vox Day are all NWA was Right these days.
For the Kurt Schlichter, the guys on the border, many were part of the system and any case it takes time to change ingrained views reinforced by decades of propaganda.

observer
observer
Reply to  abprosper
4 months ago

abprosper… excellent comment… never thought of it exactly that way but yes indeed you’re right…

NJ Person
NJ Person
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

The system may not be collapsing but rather transforming into “1984” light, given the apparent confidence shown by financial market investors. The system denies freedom of association to the white middle class (from the increasingly aggressive interpretations of the 1964 Civil Rights Act). On the other hand, the ruling classes robustly exercise their right to freedom of association (e.g., privatization of censorship by tech giants). Probably a double standard, but they have an iron grip on the megaphone.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  NJ Person
4 months ago

Yeah, I’m wondering if what we’re seeing is less system collapse and more consolidation of power. There’s a very clear pattern to law enforcement. It’s not random.

Sure, it’s random to the law as written, but the enforcement of Narrative rules is very consistent.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  NJ Person
4 months ago

It is collapsing. I look at the financial market confidence as a grift to draw more small investors into the mix to turn around and collapse the market again. Already we are reading how much overconfidence there is in the market. That’s the tell.

Moss
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Huge tell, agreed, Jack. Greater Fool Theory working itself out to ensure TPTB get’s their capital out.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Moss
4 months ago

Yes but the capital won’t buy much of anything. The entire global economy is melting down , hell the Gulf States especially Saudi Arabia are near broke.
We aren’t getting a lot of news from the rest of the world being concerned with our own BS but Oh Crap!” would be far too modest.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Exactly! I’ve been saying this forever. And it doesn’t stop there. When they stand down as the “protestors” throw things at them, spray things in their faces, etc., it’s an approval of assault, and one thing is clear watching all of this. The “thin blue line” would suck a thousand dicks to keep their pensions and other bennies. Just like everyone else, they worship their own pensions, which will be vaporized as all of this falls apart.

Observer
Observer
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 months ago

JR Wirth – What’s more, any “kneeling blue liner” isn’t a representative of a legitimate government. Person in a government costume kneeling to the mob? Ok, you just became part of the mob and will be regarded as such.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Related re: anarcho-tyranny (AKA selective law enforcement) Another horrible case of police killing a suspect under shaky justification. Oddly, no media reports whatsoever even though it happened recently. 25 year old female, that should be big news right since her crime was simply running a red light which escalated into her murder.
Surely, there will be murder charges brought against the cop like Atlanta? Not so much… what is different about this case that it isn’t on every news station 24×7 I can’t quite put my finger on it…
https://nypost.com/2020/06/15/25-year-old-missouri-woman-fatally-shot-during-traffic-stop/

Understand yet white people?

Simon Legree
Simon Legree
4 months ago

Consider the Armenians: I should like to see any power of the world destroy this race, this small tribe of unimportant people, whose history is ended, whose wars have all been fought and lost, whose structures have crumbled, whose literature is unread, whose music is unheard, whose prayers are no longer uttered. Go ahead, destroy this race. Let us say that it is again 1915. There is war in the world. Destroy Armenia. See if you can do it. Send them from their homes into the desert. Let them have neither bread nor water. Burn their houses and their churches.… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Simon Legree
4 months ago

Or the Basques: they survived the Carthaginians, the Romans, the Byzantines, the Visigoths, the Mohammadans, the Castillians, the Aragonese, the Franks, the Commies and the Fascists.
The Vikings attacked the Basques only once and then decided they’d rather raid the Mohammadans instead.
What’s under threat here is America, not Americans.

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Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

The Basque country, Brittany, western Britain were much more able to re-establish tribal structures and effective “military” resistance. Specialization, characteristic of most of the Roman world, worked….as long as it worked. Romans bought their pots from professional potters and bought their defense from professional soldiers. From both they got a quality product. However, when disaster struck and there were no more trained soldiers and no more expert potters around, normie Romans lacked the skill and structure needed to create alternative economic and military systems. Under these circumstances it worked better to be Backward Basque. An aside: Nevada has a chuck… Read more »

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MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

You beat me to mentioning the Carson Valley basques – HUGE influence in Northern NV politics to this day.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

Americans are not Romans. The Romans were not a curious people – the by an large got by with the tech, the math and the philosophy they inherited from the Greeks. (Quick: Three Roman inventions?) Americans are one of the most creative and entrepreneurial peoples in the world. The lack of deep tribal roots is a handicap, yes, but people are now reminded they’re white every sixty seconds, and the penny has been in free-fall for a while now. Nature will reassert itself. There are about 200 million Americans alive today, that makes you the biggest white nation in the… Read more »

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Trick question, eh? There are two Roman inventions. Concrete and law. There was never going to be a third; centralization hates invention and loves uniformity. Maybe the Dark Ages have gotten a bad rap.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  james wilson
4 months ago

I’d add the “arch”. Perhaps invented elsewhere, but definitely not Greek and definitely the use of was perfected by Rome (at that time), otherwise they’d have never built their aqueducts to water Rome.
Special mention can be made of applications of basic knowledge such as road building, hot baths, and bridges (they spanned the Rhine within days, crossed and taught some pesky Germans a lesson).

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  james wilson
4 months ago

Hammurabi beat the Romans to the invention of law by about 1500 years.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Bilejones
4 months ago

And Urukagina beat him to the punch by a pretty fur piece.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Bilejones
4 months ago

Property law, more specifically.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  james wilson
4 months ago

No trick question. I can’t even think of one without googling.
Concrete, law, sanitation or the masonry arc, are not Roman inventions, despite what an astounding number of “Top Ten Roman Investions”-listicles claim.

It seem the only legitimate Roman invention is bacon. Mind you, I’d argue that this alone qualifies them as the second-greatest inventors in history, next only to the guys that invented beer.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

This may be so, but remember the Chinese invented gun powder whereas it took the West to turn it into field cannon and armies of flintlocks.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Yes. The Roman achievements are all the more startling considering their relatively primitive technological basis.

Some guy on the internet noted, that the Romans had all the tools available to build steam engines. He suggested that if they hadn’t had slaves to do the heavy lifting, the Industrial revolution could’ve happened 1,500 years earlier.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Hail Marduk that gave us beer, the drink of immortality

– the Babylonian Necromonicon

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Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Felix and Meme…Lived around the Basques and what a grateful group happy to be landowners. Plus the cooking is delicious….steaks-oxtails and meat. Basques produce big solid guys. Felix….got it But…we still have a Wahmyn/Karen problem to deal with. Until we fall far enough to really scare the crap out of women, until women run fear and scarcity, and you men aren’t shackled to their The Assemblywomen demands and acquiesce to keep access to the bed, only then will the women will crawl back to you. The time will come when you will need to rope them in. You men will… Read more »

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Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

<i>But…we still have a Wahmyn/Karen problem to deal with.</i>

Once the welfare state collapses and they’re going to have to find a real job or another sugardaddy, I bet they’ll soon hear the siren song of a quiet, kids-and-kitchen lifestyle.

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

My father’s joke was about a greybeard in his village who, when asked about all the countries he lived in replied, “ I’ve lived in Austria and Hungary, in Czechoslovakia, Ukraine, Poland, Russia and Germany, without once having left the village.” 

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Oh, the AWRs want to subjugate the white race alright, even if that means knocking off a few million of us in the process. However, we’re in far better shape to repulse our enemies than the Armenians and Basques ever were. As for America, it is not under threat; it is under six feet of earth.

Vegetius
Vegetius
4 months ago

If there are individuals in your vicinity who employ exterminatory language in relation to white people…

sentry
sentry
4 months ago

These riots are an extension of 9/11,the twin towers getting destroyed marked the end of worldwide european hegemony.

Now they are intending to take europeans right to govern themselves.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  sentry
4 months ago

We have hundreds of millions of guns and enough ammo for several wars along with vast reserves of combat expertise and more. Problem is we are a victim of our own success, having becomes fat, complacent and entirely civilized. We also have stupid amounts of freedom in many areas, most not good for us. Its a nice cosy life most of us do not want to destroy. We certainly could concentrate on making sure we can keep a high tech military operational without imports and than change things by main force. The question is into what? I have my thoughts.… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
4 months ago

“What we are witnessing is not a revolution.”

Correct. It actually is a pseudo-revolution. Literally fascist corporations and Cloud People are using literally communist punks and low IQ ferals to consolidate power. It is similar to the Cultural Revolution in that regard, but this is a raw power grab.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Joe Rogan had an evolutionary biologist on last week by the name of Bret Weinstein (I know, I know) who gave the best answer I’ve heard as to what the recent unrest is all about.

Looooong but worth it: https://youtu.be/pRCzZp1J0v0

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

I’ll listen. Have heard a several of his interviews before. He is an interesting guy. And while still “liberal” got a severe wake-up in the Evergreen fiasco.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  SamlAdams
4 months ago

He was part of the crowd that started all this shit years and years ago when he was an undergrad at Penn State and went all SJW on a frat because he disapproved of them having strippers at their parties.

I wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

I think it was Penn. And would put him out either. But he is interesting to listen too. And much of his opining on evolutionary biology affirms heresies we know to be true.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  SamlAdams
4 months ago

I was positive it was Penn State, but I guess I was wrong. Mandela Effect.

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Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

Meme…..can you give us a teaser synopsis?

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

RFF – think of it as a Girondin explaining the Jacobin mindset.

The line that sticks in my head is when he said that BLM (and it’s enablers) are creating a reverse Jim Crow; something our esteemed blog host has mentioned as well.

Wienstien understands these people in a way that only a Left Wing Jew can.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

That is why I invest some time listening to him and his brother Eric. No different than the time spent dealing with China right after WTO accession. The inside knowledge is invaluable. Amusing finding everyone now suddenly discovering the Chinese have an entirely different worldview and game. Knew that fifteen years ago.

BerndV
BerndV
Reply to  SamlAdams
4 months ago

Agree. The Weinstein brothers and Sam Harris are, if nothing else, interesting and intellectually coherent. They are all leftists that have been run off the reservation.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

Girondin explaining the Jacobin mindset.” Small brained crickets.
Jim Snow I understand. Love you man thanks! Will listen though I spend most of my time in action than being still.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Range Front Fault
4 months ago

If you’d like my esoteric French Revolution references to make sense, definitely check out the Revolutions Podcast (it’s in all the places you’ll find podcasts).

France is series 3 – the host takes 54 episodes to cover it and it’s phenomenal.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

JaQu’eez’ius Crow can only be created under the auspices of a black supremacist society. And that is what “America” is rapidly becoming.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

Weinstein pretty much says exactly that in the interview. I was truly shocked at how honest he was.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

Sounds like he’s one of us but is afraid to admit it to himself or anybody else.

BerndV
BerndV
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

Bret Weinstein does have interesting and original things to say despite being a man of the left.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

A Jordan Peterson speech that goes right along with the interview of Bret Weinstein
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwdYpMS8s28

The barbarians were literally right at the gate while he was giving the speech.

AnotherAnon
AnotherAnon
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 months ago

BW doesn’t say it directly, but when he describes Democrats starting to behave “differently” under Clinton, it’s the US in full-on Empire mode. Clinton was operating under the new paradigm of US moving into former Soviet satellite areas and trying to alter pipelines around Turkey. Reagan had concentrated on nationalist type goals (due to US still having the Soviets balancing our power internationally). Ditto for Thatcher in UK. Then the USSR disintigrated. Bush GHWB introduced the benign “safe-space” sounding “New World Order” as the Soviet Union disintegrated, and the acceleration of American Empire began. He instigated the proto-War for following… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
4 months ago

Spot on from local observation. And the lawlessness can reassert itself much more quickly than the ones cheerleading expect. In only a few weeks the combo platter of no bail, police pullbacks and disbanding plainclothes crime squads, we’ve seen NYC putting up numbers that will soon give Chicago and Lagos a run for their money in the violence league tables. More locally, unlike all the other years I recall, every night sounds like Beirut on a bad day with all the local vibrant crowds firing off commercial grade fireworks until the wee hours. In the past the police would have… Read more »

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  SamlAdams
4 months ago

And the local limo-Leftists are outraged that their dogs are upset and babies being woken up. I just chuckle.”

They need and deserve to suffer and it is good to see happening. It appears some domestic terror groups have spun off from Antifa, which is terror-for-hire, and cannot be controlled. The same applies to some of the feral blacks looting and terrorizing. The local police might be able to push back the ferals but they’ve got their handsful with the non-astroturfed terrorists.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  SamlAdams
4 months ago

Wait until the vibrants start making unsolicited visits into their homes, and local law enforcement who will either do nothing or arrest the homeowner for calling the police on a minority.
Shoot, shovel, shut-up will be the new 911.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 months ago

Funny you mention that. Has been an uptick in roaming youths stealing the contents of any vehicles left unlocked in the middle of the night. And similar howling and consternation–and when pointed out that the current no bail laws plus general ignoring of small property crimes–“but we’re different, we’re goodthinkers”. Again, hilarity.

Moss
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 months ago

Chet, don’t forget the lime. Keeps the, ahem, smell out.

BTP
Member
Reply to  SamlAdams
4 months ago

My daughter just told me that a woman was asking one of their little Facebook neighborhood groups whether she should call the police on the vibrants who were doing just that – fireworks for hours – because her baby couldn’t sleep. The woman got torched by neighbors shaming her for imagining she should call the cops when vibrants get KILLED by police, you know.

Shut up, they explained, and turn on some white noise for your baby.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  BTP
4 months ago

Shut up whitey and turn on White noise to mask the sounds of darkness approaching. Reckon that sums up 1965 – current year.

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  Screwtape
4 months ago

Great year to pick, ’65. I lived though that year; and I could not vote yet so don’t blame me.

But the stage was set in the 50s. No one ever mentions that. The parents of the Boomers always get a pass.

It took the evil left a long time to get us to this point. There will be no peace until after the civil war; and I have no idea who will win. God knows, but he has not told me.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 months ago

i think people mention that often, actually. Many people would haul my ass back to the enlightenment to point to the devils in our making. Or maybe the garden of eden. swing a cat back through time and you will hit a thousand turns of the dial none of which are ever anyones fault because the dial was already in motion when they took the station. You would also hit a thousand lampposts absent the corpses of those same devils. Thats progress I guess. ‘65 has a nice ring to it. Being thats the first full year of official civil… Read more »

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
4 months ago

In a hundred years, Trump will be seen as the president who ushered in the final breakup of the United States. This will be recognized as a good thing by almost all concerned. If you find this unlikely, remember that Lincoln made inevitable the bloodiest war in our country’s history, and until recently was regarded as a secular saint. Countries the size and composition of the US are simply unsustainable without great decentralization, and that died in 1964. Despite some ritual bows towards liberalism, Christopher Caldwell was right – the Civil Rights Act made inevitable an attempt at hyper-centralization of… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Altitude Zero
4 months ago

It’s believed the Taiwanese have told the CCP that their method of retaliating against a military subjugation will be to punch a hole in the Three Gorges. I wonder if they could pull it off, but at worst it’s a nice psychological deterrent.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  KGB
4 months ago

Taiwan could in fact pull it off.

If they have delivered this message to China, Taiwan also has realized the United States is done.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Altitude Zero
4 months ago

Trump is perceived by many as some sort of return to the good old days. Reagan was that, to some extent, but Trump is actually a big “F-You” going out the door, as civilized society takes a walk. There is nothing left to conserve.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Altitude Zero
4 months ago

Countries the size and composition of the US are simply unsustainable without great decentralization, and that died in 1964.” It can’t be over estimated how important it is to understand that decentralization died in 1865. 1965 was only one more nail in the coffin.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
4 months ago

We are conditioned to accept legitimate power and to address any disputes through established public institutions. Illegitimate power can force people to bend the knee…while they await the opportunity to slit the throats of these self satisfied usurpers who hold onto power the way a rodeo cowboy holds onto a bull.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Yves Vannes
4 months ago

That’s the crux of it, isn’t it—legitimate power. As I think of my many conversations with normies, they could easily boil down to an unyielding/undying belief in the continuing “legitimate” power of a State which long ago, in so many ways, lost legitimate power and now simply dons the trappings of such as a show for the masses/rubes.

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Basil Ransom
Basil Ransom
4 months ago

Very much true. For all its claims to almighty power, the state on all levels is close to incompetent when it comes to enforcement of those claims. Granted, if you get in their crosshairs, it can be an expensive defense but tech companies and other corporate goons have plenty of funds to lavish on their legal departments. But for those of us who live on Main St… As Zman states, the system is slowly sinking to collapse. Take a simple example: magistrate courts. They deal with mostly mundane matters but they’ve been shut down for the past 90 days and… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Basil Ransom
4 months ago

The inability to enforce contracts is a hallmark of a failed state. The United States cannot enforce contracts. You are absolutely right about rental properties. We are witnessing their appropriation. Along with the destruction of small businesses, all redoubts of economic independence are being erased. That’s one of the main motivations behind this Cloud People-sponsored pseudo-revolution.

Basil Ransom
Basil Ransom
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Yes, I would say it’s why the USG still has the loyalty of the Silent Majority of citizens appalled by the riots and insanity but unwilling to give up on the system. They still believe they can get wealthy as their boomer parents and grandparents did by cooperating with it.

More and more are realizing that ain’t gonna happen, however…

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

“Expropiation.” Agree the legal system is increasingly broken, at least if you are white. 🙁

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Basil Ransom
4 months ago

They know exactly what to do next: buy foreclosures.

Severian
4 months ago

Another interesting parallel to the late-stage USSR. After Stalin nearly wrecked the country — again — by throwing everyone in the gulag, Khrushchev et al realized that they had more slave labor than they could use (similar to the Roman Empire torpedoing its own economy via latifundia). They realized that it was more efficient, and far, far cheaper, not to gulag any but the worst dissidents (see e.g. Vladimir Bukovsky’s memoir To Build a Castle). The best method of control, it turns out, is simply to cut off dissidents’ ration cards. We’ve outsourced that to Google, of course, instead of… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Severian
4 months ago

You are 100% correct about the Diversity’s lack of technical skill.

It’s going to be very interesting to see if the Maoist lunatics can corral enough white cucks to keep the water and lights on in Wokeanda, much less maintain and improve the complex information and weapons systems they need to oppress people.

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 months ago

Without discounting ideological motivations, naked self-interest, maliciousness or spite, I’d add incompetence as well, in particular the Peter Principle applied to affirmative action failure .  Man jawed lesbians are competing with evolutionary throwbacks as affirmative action window-dressing in political offices as well as, police or fire chiefs. Their qualifications are advanced degrees in ‘cultural stupidity studies’ and targeted characteristics other than merit. Affirmative action fails across the board from the the political, social and physical breakdown of society, to the disintegration of public infrastructure.  Warships are being crashed into one and other. Brand new airliners are falling out of the… Read more »

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Lurker
4 months ago

Sigh. Here’s what I referred to yesterday. Check facts, then make arguments. Company of the “collapsed bridge” was neither female owned, nor run, nor even had many females as employees. But it was incompetent.

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/03/female-led-company-didnt-build-collapsed-bridge/

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Re. “meritocratic ideology” and “”masculine culture” that marginalizes women.” , please see  https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10680 Re. Design Team.  It appears that prior to the collapse all the publicity was about the vibrant all-female design team that, after the collapse, became a fictional, vibrant all-female design team, that actually dindu nuffin.  You’re probably right, however, the publicity for the bridge prior to it’s collapse included a quote from one Leonor Flores, a project executive, who as it turns out, didn’t work on the bridge saying,  “It’s very important for me as a woman and an engineer to be able to promote that to… Read more »

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Lurker
4 months ago

Point remains that the structural design—which had been used before, and most importantly, the inept installation—which broke the bridge in essence—had nothing essentially to do with women involved with the firm.

A tragic comedy (dark) of errors.

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Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Re. “ Point Remains … “  The point is that the Truth is irrelevant.  The core of Liberal Democracy and so-called Debate is the old Liberal concept from John Milton to John Stewart Mill that open debate on a topic with everyone involved sharing their opinions , what will happen eventually is that the True Opinions will eventually defeat the False Opinions which will fall away leaving only the True Opinions. This is the argument for the Liberal Democracy that we live under. No one with any sense believes that this is true and it is unlikely that the people… Read more »

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onezeno
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 months ago

There are plenty of white urban cucks watering at the mouth to be the vital technical experts for their new black overlords.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  onezeno
4 months ago

onezeno, I fear your supposition may prove all too true going forward.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 months ago

Live in a place where most of limo Leftists work on Wall street and related occupations. They regularly post on local FB questions about such deeply technical topics as “how to change a car battery”.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Severian
4 months ago

Your prediction is not too screwy. A new version of the 1930s Works Progress Administration (?) but this time it will discriminate against White people! If the economy deteriorates a lot, there would of course be calls for some type of public works program. Finally, your comments notwithstanding, most service sector jobs don’t requre much smarts or training. And with any program, competence or even attendance won’t be a top priority, given the nature of big government and what they will be working with 🙁

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
4 months ago

The comment section was the saving grace of the wasteland that is The Federalist, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they only allowed it to last this long because they knew that most people didn’t come to read the articles.
It’s still surprising they buckled, since I was under the impression they got most of their funding from a few rich guys and advertising money was minimal.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 months ago

Megan McCain could bankroll it on her own with her beer heiress money. Her husband is constantly being interviewed from any one of the numerous properties they have all around the US. But in the end, Ben still wants to get the “A” list cocktail invites as a member of the “loyal opposition”. He might surprise us, but I rate those odds low

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 months ago

I didn’t realize they’d buckled, but just went over there and their comments appear to be shut off. Ironically, one of the current articles is “Conservative Cowards Are To Blame For Falling Statues.” They’d know all about conservative cowards, wouldn’t they?

I’ll never visit there again.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

It appears the folks at The Federalist believe AG Barr along with Congressional Republicans are going to swoop in and save them. They still need to get a little farther along the learning curve.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

Funny thing is, most of what I believe was deemed “racist” looked more like false flaggers. Brand new IDs drop in and bomb with stuff that looked like it was out of a Klan recruiting manual or the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and then disappear. My take is it is simply a test run of an election season tactic.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  SamlAdams
4 months ago

To most modern people, the truth looks like a Klan recruiting ad. I’m currently sending a moron on another board into the throes of outrage because I have dared to present the HateFact that the average Black IQ is about 15 points lower than the average White IQ.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

don’t forget to mention asian and ashkenazi IQ. It makes it go down easier and gets the jews on your side. Throw in subsaharan and aboriginal if you really want to shock. also the mismeasurement of man by (((gould))) was written, laughably, prior to bell curve. No serious refutation of murrays work has emerged. Er, a friend, that trolls normie sites told me all these pionters.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Vizzini
4 months ago

Franklin sat down with boy wonder Jefferson to tone down the Declaration over many drafts. If those signatories were given a do over that equality meme would be 86’d like the poison it became.

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
4 months ago

Politics, except at the local level (like school-board at the most) is probably a waste of effort. Disputes about what kind of books kids should be reading/programs they should be engaged in (or not engaged in) are clarifying and perfect ways to meet like-minded people and also know who the psychopaths and truly evil people in your communities are (who many times look just like you). Google “Frank Borzellieri.” The guy monkey-wrenched some very bad people in NYC. It should be easier in cities and towns that aren’t quite as progressive and insane (not that it will be easy anywhere… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Joey Jünger
4 months ago

Have held for a long time that there is a lot you can do to create FUD among the “elitist” cohort. Our locals go to bed every night thinking Nate Forrest and Hitler might be hiding under their bed. Watching the current “Cancel Yale” movement with great interest. You have no idea how heartbroken the locals here that proudly wear “Y” caps and shirts around would be if the new name were “George Floyd U”

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  SamlAdams
4 months ago

“Cancel Yale” is music to my ears. It’s going to be a great example of elite hypocrisy, when they refuse to change the name from that of a slave trader.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
4 months ago

Really looking forward to the podcast. Zman is getting really good in these formats, natural talent. Don’t be a bully, lol.

sentry
sentry
4 months ago

System collapsing & Revolutions go hand in hand.

Revolution’s purpose is to break the old law, which leads to system collapse.

I am 100% certain elites intend to bring forth a “solution”, a new form of government(one party rule, similar to china, which intends to remove the borders of all countries), z on the other hand seems to think they are a bunch of imbecilic clowns who lost touch with reality.

The elites would have not gotten where they are if they were not highly intelligent & if they did not have cold blooded shark instincts.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  sentry
4 months ago

Never overestimate what can be accomplished in the near term with middling intellect, but cold blooded ruthlessness. Still don’t rate many of our would be oligarchs very highly on the Stanford-Binet, but very high on the sociopath scale. Holding it is another thing. Our rulers think they are riding this tiger, but in reality they have the wolf by the ears.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  SamlAdams
4 months ago

Western elites do not represent one monolithic group, some are incompetent & weak minded, while some are highly efficient, chaos is a ladder, the most ruthless individuals will come out on top. The purpose of the policians is to become scapegoats for the elites. Mobs of people attack Trump or Hillary, but they are not the ones who move the chess pieces. The problematic elites are the jewish oligarchs, they cooperate exceedingly well, they hold reign over many western resources & they have Israel to run to. The thing with the oligarchs is that u can’t remove the promethean/world government… Read more »

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  SamlAdams
4 months ago

The elite wll tend to be a bit more intelligent. But a couple things work to our advantage. In the first place, never did a government exist that didn’t have two, and probalby many more, interior factions always vying for power. There always will be elements looking for an opportunity to stab a competitor in the back, in order to advance his career or to gain favor with their Patron. Secondly, even if most of the Elite had wealthy, Elite educatons to match (of course they did), the vast majority of these were little better than what public educaton offered.