The Beginning Or End?

Way back in the before times, whenever the topic of Soviet propaganda came up, inevitably someone would mention that it was necessary in order to keep the people from revolting against the system. There was an assumption that the propaganda worked to some degree in convincing the public. The truth is, it was never particularly effective on the masses. Instead, the real value of propaganda is in keeping the believers from questioning their beliefs.

We see this today with the massive propaganda barrage from the ruling class media organs regarding the race war. They endlessly wave around claims about how much public support there is for toppling statues, assaulting old white people on the streets and perpetrating race hoaxes. It is the oldest and dullest form of persuasion. “All the other kids are doing it. You don’t want to be left out, do you?” It’s so crude and clumsy it often feels like it is an inside joke at times.

For example, this piece rocketed around the sports media sites. The claim is car racing, especially newly woke NASCAR, is getting record audience numbers. They don’t make the claim explicitly, but clearly the intent of the post is to suggest wokeness has been good for car racing. Of course, TV ratings are entirely fake and have been for a very long time, but even taken at face value, NASCAR is as popular right now as a moderate YouTube star or OnlyFans bimbo.

If you are running a billion-dollar sport and you can only draw a million fans when no other sports are permitted to operate, you have serious problems. That’s the world of facts and reason. In the world of wokeness, a slight bump after a series of embarrassing public relations blunders is a triumph of the will. It is all the proof the great and good need to convince them that turning NASCAR into an endless lecture on the horrors of white people was a great idea.

What we will not see, of course, is a similar story a year from now when the sport is struggling with half-empty stands and dismal TV ratings. That’s not the sort of thing that keeps the true believers energized. In ideological societies, truth is a very dangerous thing, not because it gives the doubters ammunition. Truth is dangerous because it undermines the zeal of the believers. That’s the real motivation behind this race war unleashed by the ruling class. They needed to inspire the faithful.

This need to constantly tend their own garden is why the rulers are now banning harmless people like Stefan Molyneux from the internet. Whatever you may think of his performances, Molyneux is pretty much just a garden variety AnCap. He sprinkles in some crime data and facts about race on occasion, but he has not done much of that in a long time now. Instead, he has retooled himself into a street corner Socrates, but he was banned from social media anyway.

People on this side are tempted to think his banning is due to his occasional flirtations with race realism, but if that were so he would have been zapped years ago. In reality, the people in charge are running low on people willing to go onto their stages and play the villain for them. Twitter is all house broken conservatives and Progressive cranks, with the latter outnumbering the former 100-to-1. After years of human sacrifice, the stock of sinners is running low, so they are creating them.

Therein lies a significant difference between what we are witnessing today and what went on in communist countries. At some point after the war, communist propaganda shifted from promoting the glorious future that was at hand to promoting the glories of the here and now. That is, the point of communist propaganda was to endlessly remind the people in the party that there was no need for change, just constant vigilance against the remaining reactionaries.

That does not appear to be in the cards for liberal democracy. It is a constant revolt against the present, even when the present is the creation of the people doing the revolting, as we see today. That’s why the propaganda gets more intense and more absurd with each click of the ratchet. It’s as if the faster they chase after the glorious future, the further it recedes into the distance, so the only solution is to run faster and that means more sacrifices and more witch hunting.

It is tempting to conclude that they cannot keep up this pace for long and will at some point exhaust themselves. That is probably true, but that point may be well beyond where we stand now. Look at the way they have reacted to the rioter in Seattle being run over and killed. Instead of sobering them up, it is becoming something of a blood sacrifice. The new religion has no limiting principle, so the limit of their fanatical zeal may turn out to be physical reality.

The point of all this is that this may be the early stages of the revolution. It is popular with the older crowd to compare now with the 1970’s, when the cultural revolution of the 1960’s collapsed into anarchy. In other words, it is 1974, Trump is Nixon and Joe Biden is Jimmy Carter. In reality, it could be 1968 and Trump is Johnson. He certainly spends like Johnson and dithers like Johnson. We may be living through the good part of the revolution and things will get much worse from here.

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theRussians
theRussians
Member
1 month ago

We may be living through the good part of the revolution and things will get much worse from here.

Things that I have been pondering….

Bruno the Arrogant
Bruno the Arrogant
Reply to  theRussians
1 month ago

Unfortunately, an equally good case can be made that liberal democracy will collapse next week as can be made that it will stagger on for the next thousand years. You won’t know which one was right until it happens.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Bruno the Arrogant
1 month ago

Kinda like voting.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Hoagie
1 month ago

Or the markets. Any day now stocks/bonds/real estate/energy/commodities will buckle under the weight of reality and zero hedge will finally be right. Or markets go up forever because reasons.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Bruno the Arrogant
1 month ago

We will know more after the first massacre. I personally think that this will end when Pa Kadiddlehopper and the boys at the rod and gun club can no longer flee from the pozz. It used to be they could flip the channel to NASCAR or football, open a beer and a bag of potato chips… and all was well with the world. But now those uppity noggers want to deprive him of that… and I think they are playing with fire. The revolution is over when the gun club shows up at the next street theatre and fires twice.… Read more »

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 month ago

Our rulers would like nothing better than for the gun club to show up. That would give them just the pretext they’ve been waiting for to suppress gun clubs.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  MBlanc46
1 month ago

1) They don’t need a pretext; they can and already do whatever they wish.
2) If some of them feel some need for a reason to better buttress the narrative, they’ll create and provide the pretext, gratis.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

they’ll create and provide the pretext,

Speaking of: when the Left consolidates power, look for a Black Flag “terrorist” attack in a deeply Red area in an attempt to cause the rubes to rally ’round “their” flag. Of course, if such happens, the enemy attack may be rightly seen as emanating from D.C. and the response very well may be the opposite of what is intended. This almost certainly will happen and needs to be driven home of social media sites while they remain an option.

GetBackUp
GetBackUp
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

“they’ll create and provide the pretext” . This. Yesterday Zman basically reiterated the Gramscian theory of Cultural Hegemony. First seize the moral high ground (muh equality) and then send zealous missionaries into the institutions and convert the heathen with a new set of values, beliefs and precepts that will under-gird the new society.
Phase 1 is complete. The institutions have been captured. What comes next is Phase 2 – Maneuver Warfare. Basically, the gloves come off. Winter’s coming folks.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  GetBackUp
1 month ago

The mobs and riots have stopped. The concessions on policing are made. This round is over.
Why don’t they just return to seizing what we love? Housing and the burbs.
Which is what the Left is actually talking about now.
Chimpout over.
Back to Fabian tactics, and on to the burbs. Diversity is our strength – and the multi family zoning laws are on the books already.

Tea Party Reject
Tea Party Reject
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

“look for a Black Flag “terrorist” attack in a deeply Red area in an attempt to cause the rubes to rally ’round “their” flag”

Sounds a lot like that Georgia NFA black terrorist group who was trying to pick a fight with motorists a few days ago. Are you completely sure the FBI/ATF didn’t arm and train these guys for exactly that purpose?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tea Party Reject
1 month ago

That’s just the sort of thing black thugs do. No reason to see governmental involvement in it.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

If the government isn’t all powerful and with Feds round every corner…if in fact the government is a bunch of mediocrities, small time con artists with Degrees from Hedge Fund Diploma mills – basically Schiff, Vindaman’s and the other grifters – then…then.,.

There’s no real excuse to cower.
And those excuses are far more fiercely defended here than anything else.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  vxxc
1 month ago

I agree. There IS no excuse to cower.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

This may be what happened in Canada and possibly Vegas It appears and note this is MacCleans, essentially Canadian Time Magazine speaking here, not any Dissident rag,it seems the maritimes shooter was working in some capacity for the Canadian Government , maybe a CI but who knows maybe a windup toy. I’m not going to speculate as much on Vegas but anyone with a three digit IQ is suspicious of the whole deal. Ultimately, false flags and/or real shootings don’t gin up much support for confiscation in the US, gun and ammo basically sell as fast as we can make… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Give the elites some credit. The rich white guys defending their home at gun point (St. Louis) seems to be playing well for our side, last I heard.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Lawyers, goodwhites, lolbertarians, and conservatives are not on my side.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

I’m a patent attorney and federal trial lawyer. I have a grad degree in c.s. I pursued my largely unhappy career path almost entirely for the remuneration. (okay entirely)

I have been far right dissident for several decades and before that a “Hillsdale Conservative.” You may not want me on “your” side but I am there regardless. And I know others including a few federal under-the-radar judges such as one of Trumps SCOTUS picks.

Please don’t lump us in with goodwhytes, LOLs, conservatives, neocons or the like. You may need us.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
1 month ago

I don’t doubt there are good lawyers and guys like you on our side. Trump’s SCOTUS guys OTOH aren’t doing a hell of a lot for us. The reason you guys get such a bad rep is legalism. If lawyers understood that much of American law is based on custom and Anglo Saxon common law and made sure judgements reflected that , you’d have a better rep. Instead somebody in power decides they want some polity (gay marriage, gun control, churches closed) and the courts make some shit up so its “muh Constitution” Worse supposedly Conservative guys vote with their… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

AB, a lot of lawyers understand the AS foundations – including a lot of Jews, for all that they don’t honor it. Read Carl Schmitt for an idea of how White jurisprudence is supposed to work. Unless and until we reestablish a fully White-controlled society, you need lawyers to run interference and use Shlomo’s system to your advantage where you can. You’ll also need lawyers to lay the foundations for the future White society’s legal system. Worry about Jews as a race more than lawyers as a profession. Most of what’s worst about law are its Jewy aspects. Send them… Read more »

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

Anything made by man can be undone by man. The same is true for any legal system or rules-based system (even in rules-based computer science/AI systems, my forte, witness Google AI monkey-spotting incidents). Inevitably it will be gamed and completely twisted 180 degrees.

In my field we of Our Thing are continuously hunted and living a lie. If I wasn’t good at that, mostly because I have a sporting attitude and aviation background, I would easily have been destroyed already. I am doing fine and I am on your side. There are many others.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
1 month ago

Our actual numbers on the Right dwarf the foes. They just have been very good at “manipulating procedural outcomes” and getting control of the Thinking and Talking Commanding Heights.

They pretty much run everything else into the ground, and profit from it. In an actual confrontation they’re cowards, jokes. Now that suggests an obvious course of action, but we can’t have fibbie posting here…
Never mind it moving ..anywhere.

So that is how they win, and how we keep losing.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Our side though is basically Paleocons, Actual Conservatives , Devout Trad Cons (both still a bit stuck on civ nattery) some crank Monarchists and Neo Christendom folks.
Fellow travelers include a few Libertarians, Classic Liberals and the Tiki Torch guys.
The last three aren’t our guys , aren’t on our side but are not our enemies.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

I cited it as an example of people defending their property with firearms. If you’d like to frame it differently, consider it the hypocrites of doubtlessly super-liberal Goodwhites literally caught on video “acting conservative” in front of protesters whom they probably support most of the time. 😀

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Yes. See Kavanaugh, or Russiagate.

They invent pretexts as needed, and the media markets them.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MBlanc46
1 month ago

The gun clubs will slaughter the rulers before they can do so.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Not directed at you Ostei , I love y’all in a brotherly way but folks here take way too many black pills. There are a lot of people finally realizing that they need to be organized. They are behind the eight ball for sure but they are getting there. The are also realizing that they need a new ideology to go worth all those arms and all the ammo they bought. Right now I know quite a few civ nats rolling the 14 words around in their mouths getting a taste of them and others Neo Christendom. The weak sauce… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

Right you are, abp. Another area where I think the Black Pill Salesmen are wrong is in thinking the rioting is all part of a master plan. That TPTB control the Free Shit Army. They don’t. Most of this destruction was spontaneous combustion that generated a chain reaction. The notion that AOC or Susan Rice can say some incantation sotto voce and the thugs will crawl back into their holes to await the next summons is misbegotten, to put it mildly. The AWR elites don’t have as much control and power as the doom n’ gloomers think.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Hell a good chunk of the riots were a natural and expected side effect of the COVID lockdown being extended for too long.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

That and many decades of anti-white propaganda. The hoods are tinderboxes perpetually awaiting a spark, and it’s been that way since the Hutus took them over long ago.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

They have to believe in this all powerful Eye watching everything, its a good excuse to stay on the couch.

The eternal lessons will have to be relearned.

Part of the problem is we’re an island and we’ve been too long at peace. The same thing happened to England when the Vikings attacked – total shock.

I daresay the Saxons gave quite a shock to the 5th century Romanized Britons.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  vxxc
1 month ago

The Eye of Sauros.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

Upvote

This Wasme
This Wasme
Reply to  MBlanc46
1 month ago

“That would give them just the pretext they’ve been waiting for to suppress gun clubs.”
With UN troops followed by the yellow stars

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 month ago

It occurs to me this is one of the forums on the internet where we can still say “nigger” unless I’m mistaken*. The day that we can’t say words like these, I will know that the censor has arrived here too, and that will end my participation or support of the Z Blog. *Please note I advocate for freedom of speech, but not of idiocy 😀 We are blessed (to date at least) with relatively high quality of comment here, in my opinion. So by all means, pepper your prose with prohibited put-downs 🙂 but don’t go overboard, like a… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Dammit. There goes my “Joggen Raus” post.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

” . . . and that will end my participation or support of the Z Blog.”
Can’t come too soon for me.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

ROTFLMAO

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

My fan club 🙂

miforest
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

do not use incendiary language. it’s pointless and stupid agent lay.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 month ago

Excellent point. The truewhites are morphing into cornered animals. And when they have to fight, they will. Ruthlessly.

Tea Party Reject
Tea Party Reject
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

I’ve heard that for decades, but it’s not true. Those people are, frankly speaking, cowards who spend their days extolling the virtues of saint Martin Luther King jr. while promoting black gun owners as pets. I’ve seen countless examples of these types crowing about racism and BLM on social media. Sheep. If the democrat party’s government & media demanded they turn over their guns or face prosecution, they would give them up without much of a fight. After a single violent incident the media portray as “racist” or “white supremacist”, they’d give them up to prove they aren’t racist. Some… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tea Party Reject
1 month ago

You’re dead wrong. Any sort of a gun grab would spark an instantaneous hot war the AWRs would lose and they know it. That’s why they have never attempted one.

Juri
Juri
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

No. After few hotheads in jail, the rest will give up the guns as they gave up everything before. Before gunfight, just try to speak out. Nobody dares because they may lose their job. Losing job is easier than losing life in gunfight. So when gun grab arrives, then guns will be gone. Wishful thinking is not good at real war. This is the reason, why we call them gun owners, not fighters. Soviet Union was taken down with bare hands. Guns are useless, when nobody dares to fight. Even a little, for example, speak out or vote.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Juri
1 month ago

I don’t think you understand these people’s profound attachment to their guns and ammo. It’s almost maternal. They may not care much about most major issues, but guns they care about intensely. It’s the one issue they will absolutely fight over and the AWRs know it.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Juri
1 month ago

Recently Juri I stood armed watch over my home in Chicago for several nights while thousands of violent protesters marched within shouting distance. I could see their misshapen monkey faces. Those events cemented armed resolution for my wife who, candidly, does not like all the armaments and armors I acquired over time (in the US we drive over potholes atop former battleship armor; in some circumstances it’s illegal to use these plates as armor; my home has rolling battleship armor to provide a safe space and moveable tactical protection; I’m the only person who I know has this protection and… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Juri
1 month ago

We’ve been voting like crazy, its just that its far from effective. We aren’t just ready for the obvious thing, that ANTIFA is spot on and its class warfare ,
The players are different than they think, oligarchs vs the actual Americans but the reality is the same.
Also the last time the USG had a gun grab go bad against Randy Weaver its ended up with OKC thing.
Peopel are far angrier now, more divided and more gun crazy. Also unlike in the 90’s everyone is armed. Left Lawyers have AR15’s and they aren’t giving them up either.

Tea Party Reject
Tea Party Reject
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

The left will either bully the public into going along with gun confiscations by claiming that only racists who want to kill black people want guns or they will progressively issue one small gun control measure at a time until the weapons are effectively banned. They control the media and enough of the corporations such that they can bring enormous power to bear on the subject. I can easily imagine large employers refusing to hire gun owners or firing employees who belong to the NRA or donate to the wrong political causes (the latter has already been happening for years… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tea Party Reject
1 month ago

Prohibition does not work, and even if prohibition did go into effect it would do nothing to get rid of the massive stockpile of weapons and ammo now in private hands. That stock, BTW, is now growing geometrically if not exponentially. It is large enough to fight a guerilla war for 30 years.

Tea Party Reject
Tea Party Reject
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Lists of weapon purchases are kept on file. It wouldn’t be too hard for the government to collect a large portion of those guns by hook or by crook. Also, few normal people are going to risk a serious felony to illegally purchase a firearm, so prohibition will work just fine; guns aren’t an addictive substance like alcohol or drugs. All the feds would need to do is to confiscate a majority of weapons and prohibit the import or manufacture of seriously dangerous ones to accomplish their goal of preventing rebellion. A couple of grandmas with old pistols aren’t much… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Tea Party Reject
1 month ago

Not now or ever will anyone buy that. We’ve had many states requiring registration at risk of a felony and compliance was nil.
Los Angelinos lit up the entire city even though it was illegal and risked 50k in fines. This in many other places as well.
Americans are now willing to be lawless.

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

I was proudly part of that. We in L.A. gave phony Garcetti & stupid Newsom the collective middle digit.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

That is one area where we do not give in, the only thing that was conserved was the guns.

Tea Party Reject
Tea Party Reject
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

It will happen. The same people say it won’t couldn’t even secure their bathrooms.

“Los Angelinos lit up the entire city even though it was illegal”

What’s the penalty for illegal fireworks vs. possession of an illegal firearm in future America? BTW, exactly my proposal has worked effectively in countries like Australia. Save this comment. When it happens people will act shocked even though it should have been obvious.

“Americans are now willing to be lawless”

Not seeing it, not among whites anyway.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Tea Party Reject
1 month ago

If they come for the guns in the cities and burbs and they threaten the job then they’ll get wider compliance than before.
If they come for the guns in the rural areas they’ll get war.

Actually Ostei is correct, the Liberals have noticed “gun culture” and its basically a religion. So they won’t try it outside of the managerial class.

Even then.,, honestly if you can buy weed, you can connect to get an off the books gun.
Be careful, but it certainly is a thriving market. Even better to know rednecks, then you’ll definitely hook up.

Mark Taylor
Mark Taylor
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

They’ve already made them illegal to use while defending yourself. They will continue to make them difficult to get or sell and then just wait for the current gun owners to die.

I really don’t see why people think all the gun owners are formidable. If you can’t get 50 guys in a banquet hall for politics you won’t get them in an army over politics. The vast majority of gun owners haven’t accomplished step one to being useful.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mark Taylor
1 month ago

We’re not talking about politics as usual. We’re talking about ANTIFAG and BM mob violence, and it’s coming to a neighborhood near you soon. That is getting people’s attention more than any conjuncture since Pearl Harbor. And militias are forming sub rosa. They will eventually link and we will have our pan-continental army.

Mark Taylor
Mark Taylor
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Okay, I think we need to be pushing organization under explicit white advocacy. Most of the guys I know into guns are still talking about individualism and homesteading in the woods.
The mafia and labor movements used targeted violence to gain political power. That seems like a more plausible future.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mark Taylor
1 month ago

There’s certainly a good bit of that. But at the same time, I’m convinced white consciousness is slowly dawning among these people. They don’t become Dissidents overnight, but they’re veering our direction.

Mark Taylor
Mark Taylor
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Whites are definitely waking up. Jews are 2% of the population and can bring enormous pressure for their agenda. They can do that because they have multiple organizations and lots of money. Whites have even more money but no organization and therefore no real financial influence. Candidates toe the line of Jewish interests because if they don’t the Jewish organization can pull votes, and funding, and let lawyers lose on them. Theres no reason we can’t do the same. If the best we can do is say someday we will use these guns then we will have lost by the… Read more »

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Mark Taylor
1 month ago

They conserved the guns.
In fact the guns are fruitful and multiply. Exponentially.

That is the politics. That is their politics. As the rest is bullshit why bother going to a banquet hall?

Guns are their politics.

In fact getting someone to buy their first gun is the most radical and self affirming step we can get them to make. That’s a positive act and a solid recruiting method – BTW.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  vxxc
1 month ago

Incidentally, I bought my first gun about three weeks ago. My pappy bought me a shotgun back in ’79, which I still own.

Tea Party Reject
Tea Party Reject
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

You’re on a list somewhere now. What will you do when the feds threaten to withhold your tax refund until you turn it back in? Or when they fine you until you do? Or when they take your driver’s license or publicize your name or deny you a job or garnish your Social Security or … How many people would refuse the government’s demands? I’m betting only a small number would. Most would eventually comply. The media was able to convince a large majority of the population, including huge numbers of whites, that BLM is a wonderful group — even… Read more »

Mark Taylor
Mark Taylor
Reply to  Mark Taylor
1 month ago

How does an armed resistance work without organization? Everyone just independently acts at the same time?
Because from what I’ve seen it works like the system rolling over people. There’s multiple cases right now of people pulling their guns out for justifiable self defense and now they are being prosecuted.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 month ago

What if instead they just go back to legal means and keep their crisis actors rent a mobs locked up, continue on as they have been the last couple of weeks- the same as before but with the ratchet turned up- and simply use Housing Laws to diversify the burbs? Revolutions don’t just happen, anymore than the Left just happened, BLM didn’t just happen, the IRA certainly didn’t just happen. The IRA was simply the latest and possibly not last in a long line of revolts going back 800 years – nor is the IRA a 1960s thing – it… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  vxxc
1 month ago

800 years, with the Africanization of Eire as the latest phase.

We’re going to have to adjust our thinking and time frame.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

I know. But I’m not worried about the Africans in Ireland.
A bit if chimpout and the old ways will return.

I do like a better time frame than 800 years.

Tellin ya, read Mao – On Protracted warfare.
Much better for our size and situation.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_09.htm

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  Bruno the Arrogant
1 month ago

Liberal democracy is one thing. Globalist authoritarianism is another. It’s the latter that our rulers are interested in.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  MBlanc46
1 month ago

As someone wiser than me once observed, if you are opposed to oppression, it really doesn’t matter if it is coming from the State Capital, the Nation’s Capital, or the mostly mythical feared one-world Government.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Increasingly, it’s coming from local government. It seems virtually every mayor of Piddle Hollow and Gnat Creek is discovering his inner Domitian.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Bruno the Arrogant
1 month ago

I’m guessing it begins after the election when tptb are forced to start letting economic reality run its course. Americans seem willing to endure any disruption or insult as long as they can keep their stuff.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Nothing is going to happen by itself. Nothing ever does, nothing ever did.
Most likely outcome is more of the same, periodic chimpouts when the ratchet gets stuck, etc.

greyenlightenment
Reply to  Bruno the Arrogant
1 month ago

It is going to last longer than anyone expects. So many failed/premature predictions of the demise of the US, demise of globalism, demise of liberal democracy, etc. It is not going away. So we need to adapt to it.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  greyenlightenment
1 month ago

I think this is about right. The central banks can keep kicking the can for a long time because the US dollar is still the cleanest dirty shirt among currencies.

Of course, a large part of that is because no one really wants to find out if the US military backing the dollar is really the hollowed out paper tiger that many of us suspect it has become.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

A time to really start worrying would be when China decides to try out its new missiles on our aircraft carriers 🙁 Everybody knows that’d be a high-stakes gamble, but that didn’t dissuade the Japanese in 1941, did it?

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Eh, maybe. Given how much impractical value the US puts into its carriers, such a conflict might go nuclear real quick. While the PRC could more than absorb the loss of population, there’s some serious questions whether the government could survive. That and the actual warfighting capability of the ChinComs isn’t completely understood, even by themselves, since they haven’t fought any wars of consequence since after the US left Vietnam. Not much in the war of practical, real world examples to analyze. Do any of their new toys really work?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Forever Templar
1 month ago

India’s missles pointed at the Three Gorges Dam would result in a disaster big enough to bring down the CCP.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

The Three Gorges Dam will probably fail by itself if china gets anymore flooding…

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

If the hypersonics are half as good as rumored the US has no credible defense against them.

However, sinking a carrier probably gets Fiery Cross Reef tac nuked and pulls Russia in on the Chinese side with the world looking at the prospect of WW3.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

If the Russians or Chinese responded by turning New York City and Washington DC into radioactive stratospheric aerosol, that would be *gigglesnort* UTTERLY TERRIBLE. Like, OMG, I can’t even. And it’s the current year.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Horace
1 month ago

Besides the rank greed and corruption, this is why the Uniparty has become house coolies for the PRC. The Uniparty believes it can conduct a proxy war against Russia without a nuclear exchange, only killing the BadWhites from the South and West who serve in its Praetorian Guard. The good folks along the coasts need to be educated that if war with Russia breaks out, they will glow in the dark in short order. It will plunge the rest of us into financial darkness, too, but that will happen to people in the Northeast and along the West Coast.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

Jack D., that’s just what I was thinking.

The goal is to start another, climactic brother war amongst Whites.

(The side benefit is that the useful idiots are the first to get executed, too.)

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Horace
1 month ago

Maybe a few we’ll placed neutrons – at least preserve the architecture.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  usNthem
1 month ago

Oh yeah, usNthem, neutron bombs were banned just like bioweapon labs were (BSL4 labs doubled after 911 from 30 to 57)…

and chemical warfare.

(SE Asian agriculture still hasn’t recovered from the millions of tons of defoliant, Agent Orange, White, Blue, Yellow, etc and the concentrated DEET pesticides that happened to kill any villager dusted within 6 seconds.)

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Horace
1 month ago

Re Horace, Milt Freidman says the aim of proper politics is to make bad people do good things.

Carrie
Reply to  Horace
1 month ago

@Horace:
And those of us living in the mid-Atlantic (including Zman) thank you for that reminder.

Tea Party Reject
Tea Party Reject
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

My gut feeling on the matter says the Chinese will play it smart and the Americans will get embarrassed. Maybe they’ll sink an aircraft carrier but then stop and offer peace. What would the U.S. public do? Obviously, they’d take the deal and demand their government stop the conflict as there is practically no fight left in this empire; patriotism is declining even among white men, pretty much the backbone of any American military response. I don’t see how that trend doesn’t continue with the radical left being allowed to run amok burning books, cancelling people, and destroying our monuments.… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Tea Party Reject
1 month ago

Pompeo has already made noises about banning TikTok in the US in recent days.

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

My question is can the U.S. Armed Forces wage an all out full-on violence war – say WWII Russian Front-like – with either Russia or China.

The Russians may be no longer able to do so but I suspect the Chinese could.

What about us?

NJ Person
NJ Person
Reply to  theRussians
1 month ago

There are so many uncertainties, but I would bet money that the political and social conditions will worsen in the near term. For one thing, the underlying forces of the left are so hard wired in our institutions. In fact, they seem to becoming even more hard wired such as in California with the efforts to abolish college entrance exams and formally legalize discrimination against Whites and Asians.   What has been most incredible is the extent to which big business has pushed this race hysteria. It seems that Colin Kaepernick has become our nation’s CEO. As one who has almost always supported the private… Read more »

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  NJ Person
1 month ago

Okay, but I’m pretty sure that the Biden/Whoever (or Whoever/Whoever) administration won’t be doing that.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  NJ Person
1 month ago

Kaepernick was a so-so sport-ball player (?), but he’s an unbelievably effective race hustler. Makes Jessie Jackson look like a piker.

Maybe there’s something about being mulatto that works in one’s favor in the US? Obama and Kaepernick have done very well excoriating the whites in their families.

There’s some weird self-hating white guilt/messiah complex that a savvy operator can really tap into to make huge amounts of money.

greyenlightenment
Reply to  ProZNoV
1 month ago

Obv. it helps. You get white IQ genes and oppression points.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  NJ Person
1 month ago

Big business has no balls, that’s all. Like normie, it follows the strongest players.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  NJ Person
1 month ago

Facebook/Zuckerburg apparently standing up to the “civil rights” groups demanding he remove “hate speech” is a welcome exception. I’m suprised he showed any backbone at all. I’m cynical enough to doubt he’ll really stand up for rights to expression on Facebook, they’ll clean out the objectionable content, but at least Mark can claim “Hey, I tried to argue in you guy’s favor and the market forced my hand…”

I’m still waiting for someone to rationally explain to me how suppressing dissent and freedom of speech isn’t an infringement of “rights”, whether “civil” or not, I don’t really care.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

FB biz model is outrage porn clicks. He’ll pay them off, make some noise.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Facebook still is a private concern and has been shedding domestic users for years now; even its foreign users have started to leave. It cannot afford to cancel as much as the others. Twitter probably is and has been an IC operation, and Google hasn’t started to experience financial problems, obviously.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  NJ Person
1 month ago

And who is going to impose these taxes?

NJ Person
NJ Person
Reply to  vxxc
1 month ago

The government. It would seem that with the ballooning federal, state and local deficits, tax raises in the near future would be likely. So someone would have to pay. Could the Democrats be the ones to defend their new friends with the Republicans reversing positions? It sounds crazy, but we live in strange times.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  NJ Person
1 month ago

Sorry I don’t believe in govt anymore than you probably believe in Trenton.

But hello from a former long time resident.

Good people in NJ you know.
Tough, and the state motto is “nobody saw nothing.”.
That is so rare and prized these days.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  vxxc
1 month ago

The pizza at Candela outside of Trenton is the real McCoy.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  NJ Person
1 month ago

Discrimination against whites and Orientals was formalized long ago–it is called Affirmative Action.

Corporate America is the enemy. The AWRs have thoroughly coopted capitalism. And that is one reason Dissidents are no longer so sanguinary about the free market.

NJ Person
NJ Person
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Noam Chomsky and other liberals signed a letter to Harper’s defending free speech. Corporate America defends BLM. What a turnaround!  
https://harpers.org/a-letter-on-justice-and-open-debate/
It is still difficult to understand why Corporate America would want to discriminate against qualified persons, especially if the market were truly competitive. Perhaps Senator Pocahontas may be correct in focusing on anti-trust policy.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  NJ Person
1 month ago

I’ve been arguing for quite some time that AWRs put ideology before profit. That is one of their strengths. They’re willing to lose some market share if it means advancing their malevolent agenda.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  NJ Person
1 month ago

Well, the BDS (divestment) movement is run from Israel, so I don’t trust any “co-option” fraud. They’re all a useful cover, nothing more.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  NJ Person
1 month ago

As for that letter, the worthy AWRs are a wee bit late to the party. They and their fellow travelers have been crushing free speech from the moment the so-called “free speech movement” came to a halt. They don’t believe in free speech for a minute; they’re simply worried that overweening AWR savagery and censorship will backfire and impede the advancement of their agenda.

Tea Party Reject
Tea Party Reject
Reply to  NJ Person
1 month ago

Because there isn’t much risk for doing so and there is plenty of risk for not doing so. Cheap credit and a federal government willing to bail you out while not forcing you to pay your employees anything more than a pittance means there is quite a bit of profit to be made going along with the system. There is also the social pressure aspect. The federal government requires many companies to publicly disclose their diversity policy. This serves to pressure companies into hiring diversity to avoid a negative public perception. Also, a lot of the up and coming SJW… Read more »

NJ Person
NJ Person
Reply to  Tea Party Reject
1 month ago

What you say makes sense. Big companies like young adult workers and they are Woke. Another factor may be the real corporate fear of the media, which is far more radical than the regular population. It is still hard to believe that Jeff Bezos and Jamie Dimon really care about BLM. There may be an incredibly thick protective layer of hypocrisy here. It may not be a total coincidence that Big Tech is located in population areas with low numbers of Blacks and Hispanics. That way they can virtue signal with minimal threat to their profit margins.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  NJ Person
1 month ago

Yes, I just read of the Harper letter. Sincere? A psyop? Hidden agendas? “Hey guys, you’re going too far! The conservatives are getting wise!” Timing is interesting, almost to the day with Zuckerberg’s declining the Ministry of Truth delegation’s demands he clean up his content to their satisfactions. What’s happening? It’s like the country, morally, just slid back 40 years 😀

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  theRussians
1 month ago

But the worse the better. If this thing busts wide open soon enough, many of us may live to see the ethnostate.

Epaminondas
Member
1 month ago

“We may be living through the good part of the revolution and things will get much worse from here.”

And that’s the thing. Things MUST get much worse before Normie will shake off the CivNattery and face the grim facts. As I told someone recently who wanted to bail out of a major city, “Your choices of a haven will continue to shrink until we finally turn and fight.”

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Any reading recommendations re: The Troubles?

Exile
Exile
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

A rare Netflix recommendation – the Bobby Sands documentary they had up as of at least a year ago was pretty solid & inspiring. Not sure if it’s been Shoah’d yet.

riverine
riverine
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

IRA/Sinn Fein is/was a Leftist organisation supported by powerful foreign enemies of the British.
Not sure how useful or inspiring their story is for Rightists.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  riverine
1 month ago

On one side of the Irish Troubles were people that would never give in, supported by the wealth and sympathy of expatriates and other sympathizers. On the other side were people who would never give in, supported by a government that would do the minimum that it had to do to keep a lid on things—which was quite a lot, really. The tragedy was that it was a forever standoff that impoverished everyone. Eventually external governments, including the EU, bought off and pacified most of the players. Go to Dublin and talk to the younger people. Most have no sense… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

Yeah, I don’t think there’s any useful precedent for what’s going on. You can go back to the fall of Rome but that’s a pre-modern example. People often bring up South Africa but as I recall the time at the end of Apartheid the whites there just finally bowed down at the altar of “world opinion”, which is to say American and Western media opinion. There was a sense that abandoning Apartheid was a matter of accommodating SA fully into the Western community of nations and the Western democratic order. There was probably also a sense among SA whites that… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Reply to  riverine
1 month ago

Sinn Fein back in the day was not the group of cucks you see today.

Revolutionaries take their help where they can get it, particularly where you’re the size of Ireland vs. 20th Century Britain.

After America is also about being After Left/Right. It’s a 20th century frame of mind that’s less useful and relevant in describing modern politics by the day.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

The Squad by Dwyer.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 month ago

Upvote

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  John Derbyshire
1 month ago

From above… “[T]he natives of Belfast live lives of enormous colour in their parades and their imagination, and within the walls of their ghettoes … While in the commercial heart of the city, they administered a sedative to their facial muscles; yet these pursed lips, these unseeing eyes, came truly alive within the tiny, warring sanctuaries where they lived, and where they alone felt truly free. Here, their faces could be liberated from the tyranny of city-centre tolerance; here they could exult in the triumphs of their tribe; and here they could freely indulge in Belfast’s most powerful indigenous art form,… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

The Crying Game 🙄

MikeCLT
MikeCLT
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

The ZMan stating he is learning from the Irish? Who are you and what have you done with The ZMan?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  MikeCLT
1 month ago

The Zman started this blog talking about his beloved Boston southies.

(That kinda cinched it for me, as my first visit to the an east coast big city led me to looking for the family name at Kilkenny on the walls of the Roisin Dubh in Fanueil Hall, with a glorious daughter of that revolution.)

not vxxc
not vxxc
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Good post Z. What can we do now? We can go and be decent to our own. Nothing was more important to the system than dividing the white middle class from the white working class- then entrapping the middle class in Progressive dominated and funded industries whilst destroying the white working class. We didn’t Come Apart ala Murray – we were driven apart and we know how this was done. We win by going and being decent to our own. You’re familiar with Coming Apart and Fishtown? We didn’t come apart, we were Driven Apart, and we know how that… Read more »

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

I’m not an expert on this era of history, but I believe much of the murdering was done by and upon the proxies in Ireland for the British crown, which meant essentially fratricidal violence. I’m guessing our foreign elite will use the same strategy and the results will be similar.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  ronehjr
1 month ago

Interesting, ronehjr, Ted Kennedy ran the North American Irish Fund, funding the IRA- and the Kennedy money came from their Prohibition stipend from the Bronfmann owners of Seagram’s whiskey- they still get a percentage on every bottle.

Proxy wheels within proxy wheels.

The HBO series Boardwalk Empire has Nookie visiting Ireland, trading guns for whiskey, during Prohibition.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Can’t say that I know much about the Irish Troubles, but I suspect that learning about movements that used diffuse groups that perpetrated low-level, local resistance against a government to both provoke an overreaction and to wear down the other side would be worth our time.

As Z has said many times, we don’t have to win. We just have to make the cost of occupation too high.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

That might work if our elites were literally in another country. The IRA was not trying to take over England.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  vxxc
1 month ago

NYC and Idaho might as well be different countries.

Also, even these tactics can work in carving out semi-autonomous communities as well. The Muslims in Europe have parts of various cities more or less to themselves.

Noncompliance eats up huge amounts of resources from the state. They have to monitor everyone, all the time. That’s a lot of work. Also, start pushing back in other ways. Fund political opponents of your enemies, forcing them to spend 5 times more than expected.

Just make it worth their while to leave you alone.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

I don’t think they’re capable of leaving us alone. Their entire existence is predicated on parasitism until the host is dead. That they also hate us is their religion. I understand what you’re saying, but while I am aware of darky no go areas I am utterly unaware of pale no go areas in the USA. I wasn’t saying go and lead our communities because I woke up feeling nice today (no). Its actually the price of survival. Go lead, or die. They need leaders, or they’ll die. We need each other, or we die. Whether we die out or… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  vxxc
1 month ago

And yet BSA–formerly the USA–is far vaster than Ireland and will be infinitely more difficult to pacify.

Diavolobello
Diavolobello
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

When a majority of white people come to feel as we do, then God help our enemies and our traitors alike.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Diavolobello
1 month ago

Feelings don’t work, they probably already feel that way.

ExNativeSon
ExNativeSon
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

E & Z. Exactly. What looks to be coming is, as I have long noted, the end of local zoning supplanted by state zoning and the federal destruction of white communities which took off under Obama. When that happens only the rich goodwhites can afford private gated communities patrolled by armed guards (who will be POC so like a well paid Mafia operation). I have lived in Brazil; I know. Little law enforcement protection. Primarily law enforcement and legal prosecution in regard to robbery, assault, rape, extinction against the lower 95% of whites defending themselves. The sale of ammo and… Read more »

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

I admire my Irish ancestors too, but our situation is different.
Very different.
This is a fight for an continental sized nation, one might get more from reading Mao’s essay On Protracted War. He won in less than 800 years, and he too had a Continental sized problem to
solve.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_09.htm

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 month ago

When surrounded in your car by a mob…you must now exit the vehicle and be beat to a bloody pulp.

When your house is surrounded by a mob, you must go outside and….be beat to a bloody pulp.

When your public monuments are being vandalized…you must stand aside, or be beat into a bloody pulp.

Etc. It’s not the violence and general lawlessness; it’s the massive pushback from DA’s towards anyone who offers the smallest resistance to what’s happening.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  ProZNoV
1 month ago

Well, what can one expect from all those DAs Soros paid to install?

All just part of the plan!

miforest
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

yep. you are correct geese

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  ProZNoV
1 month ago

That is the lesson we are being taught. I think some folks here call it anarcho-tyranny.

The legal avenues and protections are being cut off for whites by local and state agents acting politically. The system is now fully lacking legitimacy.

Hilarity will ensue.

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  ProZNoV
1 month ago

“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose” sang someone.

When the mob comes here, I will kill as many as possible before I go. After all, my doc tells me I would not be losing all that much time anyway and the wife even less.

So, let the libs and nigs bring it on. Going out fighting might be the best way to go.

GetBackUp
GetBackUp
Reply to  Mark Stoval
1 month ago

From the Havamal (The Council of Odin the One-Eyed): An unwise man thinks he will live forever if only he can avoid a fight, but old age will give him no peace, even if weapons do.
Or, in the vernacular: You’re a goddamned fool if you think you’ll live forever just because you won’t fight. Say nobody ever kills you – old age ain’t no peach either. (Jack Crawford translation)

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  GetBackUp
1 month ago

Would up-vote is we could do that now.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mark Stoval
1 month ago

Has there been any explanation why we no longer can?

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Yes, Z-man said it is a problem with the wordpress software and they would fix it at some point.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mark Stoval
1 month ago

Thank you.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 month ago

At some point, when the vibrant new Federal Stasi comes for them, normie whites will need to decide if they go quietly on their knees or shout, “Nah, I’m not going to jail today.”

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

Alone people can be picked off one by one.

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 month ago

Things must get much worse.

And they must get much worse sooner rather than later.

Unfortunately in this struggle the Enemy has both the watches and the time.

In the event of a Biden victory, individuals should act in a manner that draws (f)ire onto the innocent suburbs.

I am not sure how many of our internet tough guys understand what this means.

But those of our guys who were in Iraq while al-Khalayleh was on the rampage will understand the general dynamic of such a campaign, although his methods must of course be rejected.

BTP
Member
1 month ago

I’m beginning to think the idea of keeping our heads down is going to be overtaken by events. In lots of industries, getting fired over some jogger’s video means nobody will hire you again, ever. That sort of environment changes the whole concept of organizing in real space over time with like-minded individuals, etc. If, as Z says, the problem for these people is that the glorious future keeps receding and the solution is more and more sacrifices… Well, you don’t get the option of sitting out. Probably a good idea to see what sort of work ex-convicts can get… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

With our own communities we can form networks like the dissidents in the USSR had. Unpersons could find off-the-books work, housing & cash for decades under a more totalitarian state than we have (yet).

BTP
Member
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

Yeah, Exile, but it doesn’t exist now and we may be out of time. This guy who was videoed getting angry at Costco has lost his job, I hear. He might be ruined, and we have nothing for him.

not vxxc
not vxxc
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

Then lets go reclaim our communities – go and be decent to our own. Nothing was more important to the system than separating the white middle class from the white working class. We know how they did it, and we now know why – so what to do? Reverse that. We go and live among and be decent to our own. We win by going and being decent to our own. You’re familiar with Coming Apart and Fishtown? We didn’t come apart, we were Driven Apart, and we know how that was done. Nothing could be worse than the white… Read more »

not vxxc
not vxxc
Reply to  not vxxc
1 month ago

Shorter version; we don’t have to start from scratch, we take back Fishtown – and we save our working class who’ve deliberately been made leaderless.

We gentrify our own former neighborhoods. All of us that can work from home can do this now – I already have.
Because we are our people’s “gentry” – I don’t mean nobility, I mean the small local notables and stewards, leaders.
If your old neighborhood is gone pick a town in flyover country, hopefully near family and make it work.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  not vxxc
1 month ago

Over-simplifying perhaps, but yes Murray’s Coming Apart basically says that our country is increasingly self-segregated by wealth and its highly correlated intelligence. I found it especially telling where he talks about in the “old days” the owner/CEO of [corporation] lived near the factory, yes better off but not dramatically so than the typical worker. But that was the 1940s/1950s. Nowadays, the execs would live far away, in a gated community, in a McMansion at the least. Increasingly the Elite move in their own circles, rarely rubbing shoulders with us Dirt People.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Never mind the Elites – I mean the middle class. The great evil genius of our rulers was to physically separate the middle class from the working class. This was done by CCR – Crime/Civil Rights, the destruction of the working class economy, neighborhoods driving out the talent – and making sure their interests were no longer in common but divergent. What we can do is reclaim our people, and middle and working class save each other and build our communities in the bargain. Remember Gentrification? Lets flip it on them. They fear this by the way, they fear us… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

How do you know these communities don’t exist right now? Would anybody who is being smart about it want to advertise it? At this point, it’s a very quiet “invite only” kind of thing. You don’t ask, you simply get chatted up by someone you have been acquainted with for a long time, who has been quietly vetting you. Put yourself in situations and places where that sort of thing can happen, that’s how you go about it.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

Yes and they exist, these places. Your plan however only saves certain selected individuals, and not our commons.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  vxxc
1 month ago

Haven’t you heard? There’s a homeless camp on the Commons these days 🙂

Exile
Exile
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

Dissidents don’t quit because they lose their jobs with the establishment. Doxxing sucks but it’s not like being gulag’d or tossed in the Maze in Belfast.

We’re not going to be a legitmate dissident movement until our people’s future means more to Our Guys than their McJobs.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

I’ve been kicking around this idea. What can I do to start a fragility-resistant, self-sustaining small business to create “soft landings?” OTR trucking, a gas station come to mind. Anyone else have ideas?

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Educated.redneck
1 month ago

A great idea, especially the gas* station and OTR trucking part.
Sadly I’m not a VC, but perhaps someone here can Be Decent to Our Own People and help out.

*If money collapses, gas is money.

Moss
Member
Reply to  Educated.redneck
1 month ago

RV Park, small grocery / market, home repair, recreation options, shade tree mechanic, web services (design, marketing, sys admin, back end) for cash, craft products, food products, food prep (with home delivery), small manufacturing, mobile abattoir, elder care…think small scale, hyper-local. Ideally with raw material within close proximity. Work the network.
I’m kicking this around as well. May build something new or look for a retiring founder and buy into their business.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Moss
1 month ago

“Abattoir”. French makes even that word sound sophisticated and sexy 🙂

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

Oh I don’t know. At some point there will be enough fired whites to form communities. I suspect many employers would hire a “disgraced” white, especially if it’d cement his clientele. The Looney Left shunning won’t work very well against a business or a customer base that is largely immune to such lies. Of course, such a business would face lawfare and intimidation through the legal system but at least he could tell the MSM to pound sand.

David Wright
Member
1 month ago

Aside from the unfairness, what is gained by banning Molyneux et al? Most people get their info from other sources and the average nimrod doesn’t use twitter. Facebook for most is just personal and social.
At some point I look at all those platforms and their constant posting as Kabuki theater.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

So if we battle with them on these platforms and piss and moan about the treatment, we feed the beast I guess.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

We still need to speak out to educate and motivate our own people. Owning the libs by ignoring their abuse and hypocrisy is not a solution. Moly in particular didn’t cover himself in glory with his tepid lolbertarian pushback. I was disappointed in Keith Woods’ black-pilled response as well. But we have to keep getting our message out by subverting and circumventing these platforms as much or more than waiting for alternatives from some yet-to-be-seen billionaire sugar daddy (Peter Thiel is obviously not Our Guy). Going silent or retreating into cul-de-sac echo chambers and honeypots created to fence us in… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

It’s a fine line between playing their game on their turf and getting our message out. I think that the big distinction is understanding your audience and your purpose. If you engage with a Progressive, it’s not to win them over. The Progressive is not your audience. Getting the Progressive to agree with you is not your purpose. Joe Normie is your audience. Getting Joe Normie to question narrative is your purpose. I would never waste my time engaging with a Progressive if it’s just us. But if there are Joe Normies in the room or forum, engaging the Progressive… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

To the extent that the Other Side’s rhetoric is false and their goals at odds with reality, they are doomed to fail. These failures alone will be powerful arguments that Our Side is/was right. The downside of all that, of course, is that there may be nobody left on Our Side by then 🙁

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

Exactly. Which is the reason I have never been nor ever will be on these “platforms”.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

As a kid playing cowboys and indians the best part of playing the role of the savage was the death scenes. Indians couldnt ever win of course, but they did get to get shot out of trees, off of cliffs, and crashing steel ghost horses into the muddy ditch. All of those platforms just tickle that fancy: the glorious death scenes of the savages. While the real work of the dissident is often tedious and anonymous with the rewards being accretive over time like growing stalactites in a dark cave. Plus all social platforms are designed for the feminine. Using… Read more »

Drew
Drew
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

Correct. One lesson to be drawn from the French revolution is that there’s a lot of wisdom in strategic retreat. The conservative monarchists that resisted the Republicans ended up as cannon fodder and delayed the inevitable infighting that destroyed the revolutionaries. Fundamentally, revolutionaries are just assholes looking for a fight. They cloak their motives in moral terms (purging evil, e.g.) but they just want someone to destroy. If you start out of their way, they have no one to destroy but each other

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Drew
1 month ago

But I was told on good authority that we’re supposed to organize into easily identifiable groups and that we won’t be infiltrated or arrested at all!

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Meme,
Really? Exile, Lineman, et. al. told you to organize into “easily identifable groups”?

Weird, I thought you were urged to be wise, clever, discrete and circumspect in your actions, but to actually take some sort of action. Something. Anything.

Fine. You cannot be convinced that building community is a good idea. At least don’t build strawmen to argue with.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 month ago

Hear hear.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Who told you that Meme?

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

Some guy with a plastic stahlhelm

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Drew
1 month ago

Seems very true. Sometimes I wonder if this is why (for example) an author in the 1970s accused (correctly, I assume) the USA of financing both sides in the Vietnam war. “Divide and conquer.”

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Drew
1 month ago

The only thing about the French Revolution that anyone need concern himself with is “What was Napoleon doing at the time?”

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Ha. It will be delicious to watch the milquetoast cucks sacrificed until they run out of them, too. Then the Emmanuel Goldstein dummy accounts will have to be run and demolished.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

Molyneux’s forthcoming book, The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism, will prove that Molyneux is a danger to the state!

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

That’s going to be a real page turner.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

It will be very hard to get.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Nice one, missed the reference.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

I know a quiet little hotel in the prole zone where you can read undisturbed.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
1 month ago

”This is the good part of the revolution and things will only get worse from here…”

But we win in the end, right? Because Kipling wrote a poem 100 years ago with a cute line in it?

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

We win because structural factors favor the right. You can’t build a leftist prison state on turnip’s blood.

They won sometime in the last century. Those of us alive today have only a vague sense of the freedom lost. Being broke, we’re in the collapse phase when things go back to the right, or at least back towards freedom.

The question is how much suffering we’ll have to endure.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Italians still have Italy. Germanic people have the lands that were theirs to begin with. If I had to guess, whites end up with the northern land, probably from coast to coast, south goes to the blacks, southwest to hispanics. Maybe Chinese carve out an enclave in the northwest, maybe not. Michigan-Minnesota to the muslims? Doubtful.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Don’t set your goals too high, be optimistic.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  vxxc
1 month ago

That’s just off the top of my head based on demographics and what I hear. Assuming people can freely associate after the empire collapses.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Structural Factors favor the Right!?!?!

And which structural factors would those be? Because to me it looks like the Left has a solid lock on structural factors.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Emptying cities, a government that nobody has confidence in, a military that increasingly looks testable, a media/entertainment system that’s the butt of jokes, an educational system that’s all but closed down, an army of immigrants that isn’t loyal to the Dem party establishment that’s counting on them… yep, they own the collapse. The only thing they’ve really got is habit. People still identify with them. The US (left) is a paper tiger, and the nation could get on without them. Can’t wait for others to realize it. Now that I think about it, it’s not even habit. I think it’s… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

We win for two primary reasons. First, our human capital is far better than theirs. Second, no structure based upon irrationality can survive long under the force of pressure. The AWR structure is profoundly irrational.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Right. They own the structure but the structure is collapsing. It’s a liability for them because they depend on it. Failing up is nonsense that only works if responsible people are willing to support you.

It goes back to sage advice about crazy women a friend gave me: don’t play their game, don’t let them drag you down. Cut your losses no matter the cost and walk away.

There’s no making it work, no winning. Who would want control of this mess anyway? We can lose a lot now or hang in there and lose everything.

Bilejones
Member
1 month ago

Forty years ago I saw, presented as established fact a simple one liner : ” The purpose of car ads is to reassure past purchasers.”

It struck me as so self evident that I wondered why it had not occurred to me.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Bilejones
1 month ago

The purpose of corporate advertising is to attract investors and to keep current stockholders content.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Bilejones
1 month ago

That it occurs to one to even ask such a question is an admirable use of the ability to think critically and to ask incisive questions. Of course, those are not traits the current ruling class seeks so I encourage you to suppress them 🙂

usNthem
usNthem
1 month ago

It has to get worse so that something new and hopefully better can arise from the ashes. It may like hoping you never get cancer, then getting the diagnosis. At that point you say, alright what do we have to do to beat this thing and get on with it – you have no choice. I think this election will be the inflection point.

Exile
Exile
1 month ago

“Instead of sobering them up, it is becoming something of a blood sacrifice. The new religion has no limiting principle, so the limit of their fanatical zeal may turn out to be physical reality.” In these circumstances, Whites should consider their physical safety above economics and social status. Entire states are implementing laws which criminalize calling 911 or otherwise “Karening” Black criminals. Given that the most prominent of our recent “polar bear hunters” have been mixed Black and Gayrace, it’s reasonable to assume that the entire Lavender Mafia, regardless of melanin, will soon enjoy these protections as well. Asians, particularly… Read more »

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

The CAREN law is a great gift to us. It forces White women to give thought to hearth and home instead of their fantasy of a Dionysia.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

People really need to be preparing to live in war conditions…

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Lineman
1 month ago

Go and be decent to our own. Nothing could be worse to the enemy than the white middle class becoming connected to the white working class again. Nothing could be worse for the system then the people getting their natural small group leaders. They are terrified of that scenario. Fishtown didn’t lose its middle class by accident – the natural stewards and guides of the people. We didn’t come apart – we were Driven Apart. How many of us had to move to get work when we came of age? Myself included. Now thanks to luck and VPN I’m back… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  vxxc
1 month ago

Are you ok man you are just parroting what I’ve been saying for a long time before you even found this forum…Your WRSA link is funny because I’ve known about them for over 10 years and actually have broke bread with the proprietor…At least I get a good laugh out of your post…

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Lineman
1 month ago

With that much in common, Lineman and vxxc should be joining forces, no?

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

No.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

Well you’re a consistent hater Exile.

In the Blood, I suppose.
😉. Some people just can’t let a grudge go.

Good luck with the project anyway, and do think about leading communities that exist, as opposed to starting from scratch.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Lineman
1 month ago

I’m fine. Never heard you say that, btw. All that is saying is go lead our people, and if you want the white community go fix one that’s not too broke. It was said in one word “Organize” but that draws SPLC trolls, as well as paranoid people on this page. So I fleshed it out. In war when you take prisoners you segregate them by rank. You take the leaders away from the Troops. That’s what happened to us. Fix that – and we can’t be stopped by any force on earth. Leave as is and its over. This… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

I’d disagree with Z. The ruling class’s principles are most limited 😀

miforest
Member
1 month ago

The ammount of despair from the dread of what is coming for tose of us with cids cannot be underestimaed. the mask is clearly off. I think the panic in DC the last 4 years is because the deep state can’t have trump in a position where he could use the military if things got really bad. https://www.businessinsider.com/potato-farmers-destroy-potatoes-covid19-even-in-a-food-shortage-2020-6 better stock up , agriculture here in the midwest is being destroyed too. there are going to be big problems ahead in a lot of areas. I know hard to fight the gloom . clearly these guys are onto something . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zug5PUSm9vU&t=24s… Read more »

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  miforest
1 month ago

What’s a cid and how can I tell if I have one?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

It’s not “a cid” it’s “acid.” That’s those little squares of paper with cartoons on them they sold you for $5 or $10 back in high school 😀

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

children in diapers?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Have two or more cids for the good of your people.

miforest
Member
Reply to  miforest
1 month ago

life called before I could spellcheck. the only thing better than cids is gramcids

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  miforest
1 month ago

So instead of the despair Brother why aren’t you working at securing their future the best you can…If you don’t have good people around you then move to somewhere you do…

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
1 month ago

That’s why the propaganda gets more intense and more absurd with each click of the ratchet. Our choice: Things get worse slowly vs Thing get worse rapidly. We’ve been living under the first for decades and have been being boiled off into oblivion with very few even bothering to notice. No one, neither our enemies nor our asleep-at-the-wheel brethren, has time to adjust to change if change is constant. Especially if it is “more intense and more absurd”.  This is why acceleration is a net positive for us. Our tribe has to have its face rubbed in things as they… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Yves Vannes
1 month ago

This was a big reason why I saw a silver lining in the covid shutdown and the economic chaos of our upcoming Make America Great Depression. Nothing motivates Whites like messing with their money and their stuff. Sad but true. It was a maxim even before modern capitalism, consumerism, libertarian Mammon worship, etc… Machiavelli told his Prince that it’s better to kill a man’s father than to seize his inheritance. A lot of guys still don’t hear the tolling bells. If this is what it takes to make more guys realize that White genocide is more than a meme and… Read more »

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

Upvote !

Evil Sandmich
1 month ago

NASCAR was already having issues with half empty stadiums as the demographic collapse was taking a bite out of their fan base. Their plan for mitigation was to promote women and blacks into the ranks of drivers to build a wider audience, but they’re running into the ‘Trump’ issue where a doubling of black support (if it even arrives) will not come remotely close to filling the gap of whites who now want nothing to do with it. Baseball is going through something similar and Sailer suspected that their workaround was relaxing steroid testing to make the game a more… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
1 month ago

I’ve never been into golf, but rest assured that Tiger Woods is a once in a lifetime talent that was in the right place and the right time.

The PGA and NHL will search high and low, but the next great negro hopes for those sports are not out there.

Crispin
Crispin
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

Indeed.
As Minnesota has discovered, Mohammed doesn’t skate.

John Carter
John Carter
1 month ago

Z’s conclusion that progressivism is a drug for people who loath their own identity so much they can’t bear to be associated with it was an eye opener for me. Many good whites who relocate from city to suburb really do miss the diversity, as they lack the ability to understand themselves outside of that milieu. In a way their “whiteness” and heterosexuality comprise their entire identity and they feel guilty at being so far away from their pigmented pets. The only acceptable response is to seek out tokens of diversity — restaurant, adop a black child, vote for immigration… Read more »

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  John Carter
1 month ago

progressivism is a drug for people who loath their own identity so much they can’t bear to be associated with it “
My favorite line of the week. I noticed that also among the leftists .

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  John Carter
1 month ago

One of the great evils (in my opinion) of a democracy is it gives the average person the conceit of thinking he has taken the correct moral position on an issue, even one that has little or no relevance in his life. I don’t know if this is a good proof, but imagine: Pick any hot-button issue. Now, no matter what your stance on this issue, imagine that you had to be personally involved in its solution (or living with the problem). You’d likely find that your opinion would be dramatically changed. I call this the “Nathan” principle, I don’t… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
1 month ago

The way I see it, it’s always 1960. That was the zenith of liberal democracy. JFK is just about to be elected to enrapture us. To Kill a Mocking Bird (the most overrated book in human history) is just released. They’ve even resorted, over 10 years ago now, to wearing the ugly black glasses from that era. True believers wear the retro glasses. They always want to be reminded that there was a time when liberal democracy worked, and was about to vanquish the evils of the world. When all their organs were still alive and fresh. People even respected… Read more »

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 month ago

I don’t know how true that is, but it’s a good story.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 month ago

Yes, excellent point. I’d put the USA peak at 1969 (moon landing, last year on gold standard). But you can choose any arbitrary peak date. To reinforce what you said, the problem is that the US at the peak of its power, the treasury and the checking account was full, country was filled with optimism that every problem could be solved, whether it was to beat back Communism or redress a century of racism, to finally make the Negro the equal of the White man. Well intentioned, but we’ve seen how well those ideas have worked out. What an idealist… Read more »

Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

How about 1970?

Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

What an idealist cannot accept or understand is that some problems cannot be solved at all. How much effort should one put in, before giving up? This summarizes the entire problem of the modern world. It is incapable of sorting problems by solubility. It also constantly conflates the ability to solve scientific or engineering problems with the ability to solve “social” problems when it should be obvious that they’re not even the same type of problems, much less amenable to the same kind of solutions. This is amazing too considering that, in fields like math and computer science, people have… Read more »

Lurker
Lurker
1 month ago

Re. “ Truth is dangerous because it undermines the zeal of the believers. That’s the real motivation behind this race war unleashed by the ruling class.”  The idea that true opinions will eventually defeat the falsehoods, which will fall away leaving only the true opinions is delusional.  No one with any sense believes that this is true because it assumes: 1) that everyone is rational, 2) that everyone has good intentions. 3) It assumes that the only reason that people want to discuss these things is that people want to get to the truth and it assumes, 4) that the truth… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Lurker
1 month ago

Good observation. Can’t help thinking a bit when you mention the elite of Charles Murray’s findings in his book, “Coming Apart”. His elites maintained a social environment for themselves, quite apart from the peasants (Fishtown). They can afford to promote all sorts of pathologies among the masses, simply because such never really affects them—and as you point out, even promotes their interests.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

Then let us go and do our duty to our own in Fishtown, go and help our own.
I don’t know if Murray realized it but our “Coming Apart” would more accurately be described as Driven apart by Crime/Civil Rights (same thing), subsidized dysfunction, the destruction of the working class economy – we didn’t Come Apart – we were driven apart.
The most dangerous thing that could happen to the system is White Middle Class reuniting with the white working class.
So go and be decent to our own, and see if our lives and prospects don’t radically improve.

Moss
Member
Reply to  vxxc
1 month ago

Vxxc, your vacillation can be entertaining but man, you hammer on a marketing slogan of the day better than anyone!
You’ve stated “go and be decent” 11 times on this post. Do you think its getting traction? Really impressive.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Moss
1 month ago

Dear Moss – when have I vacillated ? I’m simply developing the argument to organize our people, same thing in longer form. That’s the only thing other than snark and wry observations the DR might be good for – might. You see by splitting our middle class from our working class they took the natural leaders of our people away – which is how they dominate us – were that corrected , were we to go back to the towns and communities s we came from our great and frankly in raw power terms overwhelming capacities in every category would… Read more »

Lady Dandy Doodle
Lady Dandy Doodle
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

This is true of “Conservatives” in lily white states, for sure! Real quote from my FIL: “I think it’s great all these Somalis are moving here because our state is so old, and they are having children.” I just want to punch the bastard.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Lurker
1 month ago

Being right is no guarantee you’ll win a discussion, but it’s a damned good starting point.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Meme reinforcement drains resources from the opposition and the guys they bleed at the edges can become Our Guys. 2020 has proven us right time and again, with more to come for the second half. Now is the time to confidently and aggressively remind everyone “we told you so,” especially fence-sitters and not-quite-there-yets.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

“We cannot guarantee success, but we can deserve it.”

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Lurker
1 month ago

Constant reinforcement is how cults maintain their grip over believers. This is why it’s important to counter their message on as many fronts as possible.

I want us engaged on social media (just know when to take a break), blogs, video and pods. A lot of guys who talk about fighting back are willing to surrender the media space. That’s a mistake. It’s still the best way to get our message out.

IRL is the necessary second step but the content creators who are willing to engage, risk the dox and not cuck are the spark that lights that fire.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

I want to help you build your Community. On the level. Go and be decent to our own, go and help Fishtown. Go and help our own. Realize that the Dark Magic of Fishtown wasn’t that we “Came Apart” we were Driven Apart. Our masses lost their natural guides, stewards and yes leaders. We all know how this was done – Crime/Civil Rights, subsidized dysfunction, the destruction of the working class manufacturing economy. It terrifies them rightly that those driven apart would ever Come Together again. Go and be decent to our own – and what you desire will happen.… Read more »

Lurker
Lurker
Reply to  Exile
1 month ago

The point I’m trying to make is that the “ Truth “ does not matter to those that control the media megaphone – which is why they are de-platforming anyone who gainsays their message. At this point the narrative is a slight of hand to get the mass of the people to take their mind off of being dispossessed. The mass of the people are not concerned that the media narrative, does not correspond with reality. In my experience , the only people who are interested in truth that corresponds to reality, is in the main, a small percentage of White… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Lurker
1 month ago

We need to get our Communities built before we do any organizing…

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Lineman
1 month ago

Take back “Fishtown” take our white places that exist. The Gentry used to do more than flip real estate, ie Gentrification.
Now in that Gentrification and being good and looking after our own lies the only organizing we lack – or need.
Everything comes from putting our middle class back with our working class.
Everything.

Here’s where we are..the Blue dots
http://racialdotmap.demographics.coopercenter.org/

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Lurker
1 month ago

Truth always wins, and where it can’t win by convincing people, it wins by killing them. Do Tessa Majors and Molly Tibbetts still believe in liberalism?

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Dave
1 month ago

I bet that Tessa Majors and Molly Tibbetts still believe in liberalism, as do their families, they just blame their deaths on people like you and me.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Dave
1 month ago

Truth (i.e., Reality) does win the end. Always. But it can take a very very very long time to get to the end. And the journey can be very painful.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Lurker
1 month ago

Truth makes them even more violent, the best tactic is to say nothing, to ignore them, unless they attack ur family, then u go with guns blazing, take out as many as u can.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
1 month ago

We may be living through the good part of the revolution and things will get much worse from here. Yes. The progression typically is you degrade a people, you destroy the last vestiges of their history and culture, you oppress them, and finally you liquidate them. The statue toppling really is just a mop-up action and we are well into the oppression stage. Normie is about to feel the oppression throughout all aspects of his life. Will he wake up and do all necessary before he is exterminated? Probably, but it will have to get damned close to outright genocide,… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

Perhaps, but it looks like when one door closes another opens. So we now move back to the Philippines (Subic Bay) because China threatens them, and voila—unsinkable aircraft carrier. Similarly, closing bases in Germany produces an invitation to reopen in Poland. And of course, it doesn’t hurt those efforts to demonize Russia an scare the EU.
Not sure we’ll ever get out of these entanglements as long as we are perceived as the most powerful ally in the region—willing to do the heavy lifting in all future conflicts.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

Not sure we’ll ever get out of these entanglements as long as we are perceived as the most powerful ally in the region— The perception of us as a powerful ally is being diminished rapidly. The Euros emulating the white BLM contingent here are the same as those in America–a small fringe of upper middle class whites. The rest of the populace sees the madness for what it is and knows alliances with the United States are a very risky proposition even now. The United States is seen as more unreliable than Russia now. The Polish invitation speaks volumes and… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

I can see Poland fearing Germany economically, but isn’t the German military largely a joke these days?

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Compsci
1 month ago

The Philippines are a tar baby we’ll never be fully rid of. Poland is inviting in our troops full of ‘diversity’ and ‘inclusiveness’ and will soon see their rape and murder statistics rise, along with constant economic threats by the US for racism against our glorious soljers. We produce nothing but trouble and chaos wherever we go.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

didn’t the US military have a presence in Phillipines until 1990s? I was unaware that we were planning to go back. Usually host country is delighted to have big-spending Yankees on local economy. Crime is just a side effect I’m sure the Fillipinos can take care of themselves in local matters.

TomA
TomA
1 month ago

The Wuflu recession will change spending habits, and that means that sportsball will get far less fan revenue going forward. And what will the dirt people spend their money on now? Here’s a clue. Firearms and ammo are out-of-stock everywhere. And now the LEOs have been pissed off, so don’t expect them to become the cavalry when the shooting starts. Evolution by natural selection here we come.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

If anything is done to save our Nation that depends one iota on leo’s doing anything but violently oppressing us with deadly force, it will undoubtedly, 100% fail. Get this through your head before it is too late: no LEO, anywhere, in any uniform, is a friend, ally, or will do anything but end you.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
1 month ago

It’s 1968 all over again. Only this time we don’t have enough sane whites left to stop the hippies and the blacks from self destructing the United States.
Those whites are long gone into their graves.
But looking on the bright side all this anger at whites for just existing might actually bring on a new generation of whites whom think shall we say more defensively.

JeepEr
JeepEr
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
1 month ago

1968 also was a big year for gun control laws. I imagine the left is licking their chops for the next opportunity.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  JeepEr
1 month ago

That dog doesn’t hunt any more, that whistle gets no response. We now know “gun laws” is not actually code for “gun restrictions for inner city blacks,” it means “gun restrictions only for whites.”

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  Educated.redneck
1 month ago

And if left leaderless they’ll turn in their guns, as a group.
Without leaders men are cattle.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
1 month ago

It was the communists (lower-case) and the blacks in 1968.That is to say, mostly the communists. The hippies were just a sideshow, and a pretty harmless one, at that.

vxxc
vxxc
Reply to  MBlanc46
1 month ago

Same now. Blacks are good for street theater, mostly where they live. Most of the protestors are white. Yes Daddy – the kids are home from college, all ready for power- just like 68.
This time there’s really nothing to stop them.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  MBlanc46
1 month ago

My American history is rusty, but to be a communist (in USA) was a huge scandal, at least up through the 1960s. It’s no secret that “real” Communists funneled support to Liberal causes (e.g. civil rights), this was a stated part of their ideologies for social change, even if the funding was probably often done covertly. Is there even any ideologically driven funding any more? I’d guess Soros & co. are the closest thing.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
1 month ago

“Might”

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
1 month ago