Riding The Tiger

One of the properties of modern liberal democracy is the mass media, which today extends beyond the centrally control of media centers into the effluvium of what we call on-line culture. It is no longer the ruling class operating loudspeakers, pumping propaganda at us. Instead, it is anyone with power adding their own special musk to the air we breathe. As a result, the propaganda washes over us from every direction and no one can escape it, not even the producers.

This is why every corporation suddenly got the BLM bug within hours of that movement’s restarting its engine. The people behind this stuff spend all of their days in the steamy flatulence of racial grievance propaganda. They go to and run diversity workshops for and at their company. They attend conferences where this stuff is preached to them. They ride around in their cars pleasuring themselves to the soundtrack of that minstrel show called Hamilton.

The forest fire of anti-white agit-prop that spread across the mass media this summer was not as coordinated as it appeared from the outside. Most forest fires are the combination of disconnected events. Government neglect, the right weather conditions and some negligent migrants camping in a dry forest. The same is true of this cultural forest fire that still rages in parts of the country. The dry, brittle minds of the mass media makers felt the spark of racial outrage.

The thing is, the people who are at the top of the present social order are operating under two delusions. One is they think the country can be united. That’s why they can’t stop talking about the idea of uniting the country. For them, democracy means everyone spontaneously and enthusiastically agreeing with them. Everyone comes together in one voice, another common trope from our rulers, and belts out some show tunes from Hamilton, then sets about creating the perfect society.

The other delusion is they truly think they are the moral leaders of our society and they are fully in control of this machine they have inherited. It’s not reasonable to say they created it, as the people responsible for the current forest fire of agit-prop are too stupid to create anything other than a mess. The people responsible for staging the current racial theatrics are as much a product of the system and its drama. Like the elements of any forest fire, they came to power by unhappy accident.

The result we are seeing is endless offensive nonsense produced by people who see themselves not only as our moral and spiritual leaders, but as masters of this mass movement sweeping the country. They really do believe they are leading a great groundswell of popular support. In reality, most Americans find the whole charade ridiculous and are now becoming impatient with it. That’s why Joe Biden has suddenly turned on the woke calls to defund the police departments.

Biden, of course, has no idea where he is most of the time, so this has very little to do with him, but his handlers are busy poll-testing every imaginable idea. They will be responsible for selling an elderly dementia patient to the voters. This is going to be a base election, which is always the case when there is an incumbent on the ticket, so they need to maximize their partisan’s enthusiasm. What they have no doubt found is the typical black lady is no fan of defunding the police.

The people behind the “bleep the police” movement don’t interact with the cops, other than at their childish protests. If they did, they would understand the real complaint blacks have with the cops in our major cities. The criminals see the cops as a rival gang that has an unfair advantage. Everyone else sees the cops as wasting their time following their incomprehensible rules, rather than cleaning up crime. They see the cops hassling bangers, but not getting them off the streets.

The fact is, the people in charge and responsible for the mayhem we are seeing, are not master manipulators controlling the system. They are not play 4-D chess to maintain their power behind the scenes. They are riding a tiger that they poke and harass on occasion, without realizing it. The black murder spree in 2016 did not help the Left any more than the current riots will help them. None of this was planned. We are seeing the confluence of events no one predicted.

The Biden camp suddenly wheeling around on the police issue is a good example of why the Left usually wins. Despite their rhetoric, and they very well may believe the conspiracy theories they spout, they act as if they are riding the tiger. They move and adjust to stay on the back of whatever is happening. The Right, in contrast, acts as if they are sure some secret cabal is at the center of events, manipulating everyone like a master chess player controlling the board.

You see this when the Left loses. It’s not the clever work of Conservative Inc. that knocks them off the tiger. It is the Left’s own errors. They shift one way, when they should have shifted the other and some of their team falls off the tiger. We’re seeing that with Biden’s nomination. The Left panicked and installed Biden, when they should have picked someone young and energetic. An ambulatory candidate would be out campaigning right now in places like Texas and Florida.

This is why Trump cannot be counted out in November. He is a guy who thrives on chaos, which is why he always creates it. Trump is no longer a roll of the dice and in uncertain times, that’s a great asset. Dementia Joe, strapped to the tiger like a saddle, is the big gamble. What we may witnessing is not a revolution, but one of those times when the Left forgot they were riding the tiger and toppled off, only to be eaten by the tiger, or in this case, his keepers.

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Epaminondas
Member
3 years ago

And don’t forget the mental health angle. Many of these young women out on the streets screaming every day are surely suffering from some type of insanity or other, whether temporary or not. How they react to another Trump victory will be one of the great theatrical productions of the century. Bring your popcorn on November 3rd.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

That’s the one thing I’m looking forward to.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Hoagie
3 years ago

Me too.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

It has been eye-opening for Whites who have no interaction with them to see how psychologically damaged these female Millennials are.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

That and the cop cameras. people get to see nice and reasonable cops dealing with the nignogs. Many are horrified. That really backfiring in a humorous way.

b123
b123
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Try dating one lol.

I was never under any delusions about the state of white female millenials.

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  b123
3 years ago

Avoid them at all costs.

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

I once had the unfortunate experience of dating one of these types of women. She was medically diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, Bipolar Disorder, Depression, Hypersexual Disorder, and Anti-Social Personality Disorder (Sociopathic). She was extremely bright, cunning, and had an extensive history of destroying her adversaries’ lives — whether former romantic partners and/or friends. She nearly destroyed my life, but we were equally matched and I put up one hell of a fight to out her and win. Nonetheless, it was a nightmare and still haunts me years later.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Amwolf
3 years ago

I hope the sex was worth it.

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

Yes, it was equivalent to what many might fantasize but never experience. A never-ending, lustful adventure.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Amwolf
3 years ago

Amwolf said: “A never-ending, lustful adventure.”

That’s a lovely image. A night of passion in a psycho ward. Any port in a storm, right?

Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

I fully expect a few of them to film themselves committing suicide after Trump wins again.

David Wright
Member
3 years ago

See there you Zman naysayers, the man is not a total blackpiller.
Trump can win, should win, probably will, but then there is our old friend Chaos. Honestly though, the younger me would never ever believe the insanity that is happening constantly now. Can the center hold?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Our best best is the center disappears. Events are helping out.

Michael
Michael
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Right. The center is civnattery and Reaganism and muh constitution and all the other warm security blankets that provide refuge from the cold reality of a crumbling America.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Michael
3 years ago

That refuge is shrinking.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

And yet, what would be preferable? A President Biden and what happens then? Or 4 more years of Trump?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Jim Smith
3 years ago

It seems to me a difficult sell wrt a dementia patient for President. I can imagine every foreign enemy immediately stepping up and challenging US positions in the world. Some might call this chaos and welcome it. I tend to call it forever wars.

greyenlightenment
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

Hard to say what will happen

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

The center, when you get down to it, was the white supermajority America used to have, which may or may not still exist in the electorate.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

There are still 190 million Whites in America, not even a majority, but still the strongest political force in terms of ability, money and arms.

Our principal disadvantage is that 1) we’re scattered and 2) we’re politically-divided.

Whether you want to play straight-up electoral politics or go with a 5th Political Theory physical and cultural rebuilding project, or something in between, the first thing you have to do is bring capable, compatible and motivated Whites together in meatspace proximity.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

That would be New Hampshire, as well as other places in the Northwest, Appalachia, Texas, the Heartland, and the South. Choose. Then move.

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  Jim Smith
3 years ago

Texas is no longer an option unless you’re speaking of the northern portion (from Denton northward). All of the major cities in Texas albeit Waco have fallen to either Marxists and/or Mestizos. Northestern Texas is great in addition to the Big Bend region.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

Problem is long term. “Demography is destiny.” Greg Johnson’s fantasies notwithstanding, we are not going to motivate non-whites or even recent immigrants to repatriate. Nor are we going to increase our birthrates. The USA being a democracy, that means that (depending upon election or court), that changes will be forced upon the minority the moment the majority hits 50.01% or 66% (for super majorities). Most of us believe in the idea of white moral and intellectual superiority, as do I, and the preponderance of evidence seems to support this 😀 No matter, once the dumber portion of the electorate reaches… Read more »

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Exile
Exile
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Speak for yourself on birthrates.

The USA is already a democracy that’s losing control of its interior, periphery and even parts of its core.

It’s going to be a question of “Brown has voted – now let them effectuate it.” Votes and power are two different things.

As things fall apart and there are fewer scraps to fight over, the immigration magnet gets weaker. Greg for all my issues with him is not wrong on “the slow cleanse” concept – we just differ in tactics and timing.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

“Speak for myself?” Unless I’m horribly mistaken, the West has been below replacement rate for decades. I will grant you that, to paraphrase somebody my estimates of future birhth rates are errorneous, just as are everyone’s estimates of future birth rates.

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Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Ben, Once they begin to understand the extent of their lost how many legacy Americans are going to come to see the democracy they were spoonfed was a confidence game stacked against them. Even when they voted for or demanded an end to non white immigration their votes were cancelled by courts and their demands were met with silence by the politicians they elected. At some point nature responds. When ‘by other mean’ gives you nothing and actively works to destroy you…’means’ is embraced and put to use. Even if we end up at around 30%, if unified we will… Read more »

Diavolobello
Diavolobello
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 years ago

Even if we end up at around 30%, if unified we will be more than they can handle.” This. You expressed the same point I make over and over much more succinctly.
The only people stopping us from turning this around right now, today, are other whites. If a day ever comes when a clear majority of whites feel the way we feel, it won’t matter how badly outnumbered we are.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Diavolobello
3 years ago

leonidas, bro.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 years ago

The whites of south africa still have a fighting chance.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

Those places still exist, just not in the cities. I can be at the Chesapeake in 30 minutes, and the county where I live is still at least 80% white, in spite of our anchor ‘city’. Like you say, what keeps us divided is political ideology, and what will unite us is the growing threat to whites. The conditions are already there, and things are in motion. It’s happening on a generational scale, so it can seem hopelessly glacial to us individuals, but the juggernaut is stirring. Btw even the Amish up my way are now preaching getting involved in… Read more »

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KGB
KGB
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Interesting. Next time I run into some Amish, I’m going to try and pick their brain about how they view the current climate. I might have a crew doing some work on my garage soon..

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Around here it’s mainly fear of religious persecution.

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

I can see this becoming an issue for the Amish. There already have been recent cases of action taken against them for housing violations in Michigan.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Prez Killwhitey Harris will doubtless drop a refreshing dollop of Somalis in the Amish coffee. That’ll wake ’em up if they’re not already awake, as opposed to woke.

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Unfortunately just as they’ve done in Maine, Montana, North Dakota and other White strongholds. Nothing like “refugee resettlement”.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

If Trump wins it will be a miracle. What incentive does anyone have to go out and vote for Trump? It’s not like he is going to stop any of this crap. Trump should be showing strength right now and he’s not. Whether it is Trump himself, the people he himself installed or the rest of the GOP working against him, he is one guy and is not that capable as a government leader.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Trump is playing it very well Tars. He makes threats and speaks out against the rioting while allowing it to continue, thereby generating a groundswell of support for him along with disgust and hostility toward the Democrats who support and empower the chaos.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Jim Smith
3 years ago

The theory is that Pres. Trump is following the example of Charles De Gaulle who did not call out the French army to quell riots in 1968 and was re-elected later that year.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
3 years ago

Comparisons with DeGaulle are giving Trump a few more dimensions of depth than he’s displayed for four years. He’s shooting from the hip and making gut-level decisions and he’s certainly not relying on any historical compass or guide. Maybe some wonks around him think like this, but which one is he listening to today?

You can make a credible argument that Reagan’s amiable airhead routine was cagey fakery. Trump’s persona is more WYSIWIG.

Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

“You can make a credible argument that Reagan’s amiable airhead routine was cagey fakery.”

Yup, and in support thereof, one can cite Nancy Davis’ frequent whispering in Ronnie’s ears.

Toasty
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
3 years ago

I find that position morally offensive. It is Trumps duty to quell insurrection .

So he gets reelected, then what? Allow the riots to go on another 4 years so Pence can get elected?

People are having their lives destroyed so the party that never accomplishes anything can ecke out another win.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Jim Smith
3 years ago

If this were true, we would have seen it in that Washington State Gubernatorial Primary on Tuesday.

Instead, Governor CHAZ will ride to an even bigger margin than he did in 12 or 16.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

It isn’t what Trump does if he wins again, its what the hard left does in response. If CA, Oregon, and Washington start actual rebellions and try to seceed, or just the urban chaos continues while TPTB increase their “offensive offense” (trannies for kids, sportsball cucking, wear-the-mask mandates, etc) hundeds of thousands will be pushed out of the comfortable SOMA middle towards our side of the river.

If you want leftie to evict whites from their team, a Trump victory is a big step forward.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

That’s where I am. An even more unhinged Left would accelerate movement toward us immediately.

Expect nothing from Trump is he wins.

Expect many unintentional gifts from the Left if Trump wins.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

It won’t go yet but I’m hearing some of these sorts of rumbling bubbling to the surface in of all places Marin County. When fractures begin to come to the surface in places like that it will be telling about how things may work out.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 years ago

Interesting. The other sides of the bridges probably have focused their minds. I started to live and work there many years ago and decided it wasn’t worth it. Maybe that was wrong.

Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

This is what I’m on the Trumpenwagen for Four more years to prepare, learn new skills, and meet others like me without having to content with fresh initiatives from at least 1 branch of government and the knowledge that Trump’s Supreme Court will be at least somewhat sensible. Trump’s re-election will make the Left go off just like that thing in Beirut a few days ago. 2016 was the first small blast, 2020 will be the main detonation complete with mile high mushroom cloud. I can’t wait. I really don’t get what point people here are making when they ask… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

Nothing would please me more than successful AWR secession. The precedent would be set for the ethnostate.

Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Everyone in Oregon outside of Portland seems to want them to make their own little CHAZ down there between the rivers and let the rest of us join Idaho – http://www.greateridaho.org/

Let my people Idaho if you will.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

Along with Wyoming and Washington outside of greater Seattle, the core of the Ethnostate.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

I want Trump to win, but I do not see the excitement that was around in 2016. I know I’m not excited. I’ll vote for him, but Trump has been a major disappointment to me.
I did not vote for him so he could brag about record black unemployment and desire for more “legal” immigration.
Sometimes I think I dreamed it and actually voted for Jeb Bush.

Anonprof
Anonprof
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Ill vote Trump. Im in one of the craziest colleges in cali. Ill probably get fired soon for not introducing myself with my pronouns. They are so nuts that Ca might secede if Trump gets re elected. Thats great for us. CA is so nuts even some illegals are going home. Trump re elected would drive them over the cliff.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Can the center hold? Here’s one mans (Yeats) opinion:
Turning and turning in the widening gyre   
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere   
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst   
Are full of passionate intensity.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

I think of that poem so often lately.

Kentucky Headhunter
Kentucky Headhunter
3 years ago

I’m still just amazed that it’s not just an old white guy, but a senile old white guy who is the Dem nominee at this juncture. But, I guess it does remind me of 2016 when all the other GOP candidates were even crappier, and less entertaining, than Trump. The GOP made the mistake last time and this time its the Dems fault they couldn’t find ANYONE better than Gropey/Sleepy/Corn Pop-story-telling Joe this time. Gosh, I wonder if Joe even remembers his good buddy Corn Pop now. Sometimes they say people with his condition can remember things from the distant… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

The Establishment Left is being eaten alive. Another legacy Democrat was defeated in his primary Tuesday night. This is beyond their control now (good analogy to the Alt-Right mau-mauing the GOP).

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Jack Dobson said : “The Establishment Left is being eaten alive.”

Hahaha! It really is, and I couldn’t be happier.

RIP, William Lacy Clay.

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Kentucky Headhunter
Kentucky Headhunter
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I gotta say the image of AOC, eyes wide, in a torn and bloody peasant blouse (no bra), with arms raised and holding up the dripping heads of Chuck and Nancy, would make a great meme/t-shirt.

Also, I prefer the Invisible Nazis to the imaginary ones. even though you lose the cool uniforms, it’s just so much creepier.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
3 years ago

It was remarkable how fast the white supremacist was raised and then dropped.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  SidVic
3 years ago

I’m still waiting to hear how “Umbrella Man”, the radical in Minneapolis ? Seattle ? (I lose track) is supposedly a Hell’s Angel with white supremacist connections. That’s pretty good detective work, considering they have no suspect and no arrest. “White Supremacist” itself is suspect: even dumb old me knows that in prison, many White inmates decide to join the gang which often identifies as such, to protect themselves against the other gentlemen’s clubs in the prison I don’t wish such a fate on anyone, but I’d probably do the same. Would I remain a white supremacist after I got… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

It was an especially lame attempt to establish a false equivalency. It was abandoned because it was an obvious lie and the public knows full well the Left and its feral and communist shock troops own this lock, stock and barrel. It’s why you see less and less coverage of the riots even as they continue. I get many here do not like Tucker Carlson, and he indeed is a cuck, maybe a recovering one. But give the guy credit. He does bring these things to the fore. Especially notable was when he had on an FBI agent, brass from… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

<i>This mayhem we are seeing is a war on the Left. It’s between their establishment types and their radical cohort. </i>

Then why is the “radical” cohort financed by the establishment to the tune of 200 million dollars?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

Wall Street was one of the major financiers of the Russian Revolution. That was due to ethnic solidarity but the super rich often have funded revolutions, and often to their detriment.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Just my point. The Bolshies were not a threat to Wall Street, they were allies.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

Wall Street radicals funding Bolsheviks makes neither less radical. They shared a common enemy. Same today.

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

It’s the same reason why the US went to war against Germany; Hitler broke away from the international bankers and was creating a nationalized currency to make Germany independent from Wall Street.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

I’m aware of the claim, and don’t even need to know the truth behind it. Just “qui bono?” is good enough: communists recieve funding from Western capitalists, they win, risk of additional capitalism (competition) is eliminated. Gotta protect your monopolies.

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Illuminati Jewish banker, Jacob Schiff pulled the strings on the Bolshevik Revolution. He was an American who had significant influence and power on Wall Street.

Last edited 3 years ago by Amwolf
Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I’m not sure I understand your argument, then. Rich people are financing their own enemies?

And that’s if you even concede that SJWs are inimical to elite interests. It’s not like they’re calling out Wall Street or the military-industrial complex, they just want to wave their intersectional willy around, hoping that somehow it’ll accidentally slip into a slutwalker so they won’t be a virgin anymore.

They’re not radicals, they’re just brainwashed, broken and morally bankrupt – useful idiots.

Last edited 3 years ago by Felix_Krull
BTP
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

The rich like chaos because they do well in chaotic situations. Regular people do not do well.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

Felix Krull said: “I’m not sure I understand your argument, then. Rich people are financing their own enemies?”

No. Woke capital is financing BLM/Atifa for the same reasons they financed “occupy wall street.”

A. To keep everybody’s attention focus on the chaos while they further consolidate their globalist power.

B. Bioleninism has become a force the be reckoned with. So they have to keep BLM/Antifa off their ass.

C. Up their staus in the virtue signaling hierarchy.
The legacy left are expendable to the project, as is everybody else.

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Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Official Bologna Tester
3 years ago

So where’s the civil war within the left, then?

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

Felix Krull said: “So where’s the civil war within the left, then?”

In case you haven’t noticed, there’s always a civil war going on inside the left. Nothing will do except absolute power. Think french revolution light. With the jacobins being finance by laissez-faire capitalists.

Here’s something else you might think about.

“Narcissists, Psychopaths, & Manipulators Are More Likely To Engage In “Virtuous Victim Signaling”, Study Finds.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/narcissists-psychopaths-manipulators-are-more-likely-engage-virtuous-victim-signaling-study

Last edited 3 years ago by Official Bologna Tester
Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Official Bologna Tester
3 years ago

In case you haven’t noticed, there’s always a civil war going on inside the left. 

So is the establishment allied with BLM or are they enemies?

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

Felix Krull said: “So is the establishment allied with BLM or are they enemies?”

Yes. Politics doesn’t have to make sense, it’s about winning.

“Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing.”

-Russell (“Red”) Sanders,

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Bell Curve
Bell Curve
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

Neither and both. The establishment are older progressives, and overwhelmingly White despite their politics. The BLM crowd are the younger upstart White Millennial and POC progressives who wish to take the establishment jobs for themselves. Soros and other ideologes fund the latter against the former because they are fanatics spoiling for a fight; they have practically no loyalty to the US or the West and wish to see their ideology of race-hate take over, much like the old Bolsheviks who desired international revolution. The establishment is holding on for dear life, just trying to survive, but they are long for… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

The “Conspiracy 101” answer would be as simple as: Yes, you can finance your apparent enemies, if your goal is to stir the pot, in the likelihood that it will cause enough unrest or destabilization so that you can sneak through legal or regulatory changes that will benefit you. And, since it’s probably impossible to hide such funding or other support, you can legitimately claim that all you are doing is funding progressive social causes. In a sense, this is no different than the ancient observation that a small dose of a drug is a cure (or an entertainment, or… Read more »

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

Felix, it is more subtle. Certain of the rich do not see it as a rich v poor; it is “rich and poor of tribe A” against “rich and poor of tribe b.” It is why the left hates destitute white hillbillies with the same passion as urbane, rich, WASP professionals. They arent financial a revolution against the rich, they are financing a revolution against YT.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

@Bologna, Ben and Redneck

Yes, I understand all that, but this started with Zman claiming that the elite were more afraid of the the SJWs than of us Nazis.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

Felix Krull said : “Yes, I understand all that, but this started with Zman claiming that the elite were more afraid of the the SJWs than of us Nazis.” Oh dear. listen, this is my last word on the subject. Global capital will have it’s way. But in the meantime, there are lots of tightropes to walk across. Financial, political, social and spiritual. It’s the long game. Lots of working parts. And nobody is fully in charge. So yah, things can get chaotic. But fear not, the archfiend has a plan. lucifer has your address Mr. Krull. And he has… Read more »

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Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Official Bologna Tester
3 years ago

It’s the long game. Lots of working parts. And nobody is fully in charge.

What Exile said below: just because they’re navigating a hurricane, doesn’t mean they’re not trying to steer the ship.

Antifa and BLM are managed opposition, down to the last weave. They’re establishment assets, not ‘radicals’, and the Cloud People don’t fear them anymore than they do being overthrown by Hollywood actors.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

The Establishment is comprised of the mandarins for the Cloud People, Felix. Mandarins can be replaced. In fact, much of the Establishment is being replaced by the Coalition of the Fringes. Some Jews are Cloud People. Not all Jews are Cloud People. Most Cloud People no longer are even Jews hence their discomfort of late. No one in the Establishment or among the Coalition of the Fringes is a Cloud Person. They pay others to do that work. Bezos and Co. are paying BLM and Antifa to consolidate their power. They could care less about who ends up serving them… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

Yes, I understand Z’s meaning to be to use the dog analogy: The Elite started with what seemed a reliable working dog that has now slipped his leash and proves to be a rabid pit bull that has turned on his master. We, in contrast, are wolves in the forest. We keep to ourselves, at least for now.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Z
‘Two possible reasons
The rich whites who would have supported our side are long gone by a century or more.
Or
They are afraid. Given how the other side controls the system it would not be hard to crush our white benefactor.
You can bet money when there trillions at risk the monied class won’t hesitate to send one of their own to the cornfield.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

BLM was obviously a planned and coordinated operation merely triggered by the death of Floyd. If it hadn’t been him, then the death of any other black this year would have been the trigger. The point was to rile up black people to get out and vote for the dem presidential candidate and blunt Trumps overtures to blacks. But then it blew up beyond the plotters wildest expectations, and merged with the insane AntiFa left – which has made it a crazy whi pepo thing – blunting the effectiveness of the original plan – and triggering a yet to be… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

To your point, and interesting that it’s already largely forgotten, they did try this with the shooting in Georgia before the Floyd issue. It didn’t “bite” though as the optics (despite an ocean of propaganda) were awful and they had to try again.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

Dr3 is stupid. It does not demoralize the opposition and does nothing to support us. Stop chasing the stick.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

Fracturing their coalition is to our advantage and this is a crack to drive a wedge into.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
3 years ago

There’s plenty of opportunity for “unity” – based on a desire to hunt down and eliminate us.

That unifying principle will evaporate the moment we’re gone, but at that point the mission is accomplished.

That’s how Haiti got off the ground – doesn’t matter that it’s been the world’s most violent s**thole for the two centuries since.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

Hunting down and killing us requires the complicity of a significant contingency of Whites. The last few months have whittled down the number of White participating in their annihilation. Enough? Dunno.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

If you don’t think there’s legions of white traitors out there, I’d suggest taking a drive thru any county with a 90% white population that voted for Hillary. You’ll have no problem finding their public displays of self-flagellation.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

I live on the outskirts of one of those counties. The fear among them now is quiet but palpable. The violence has shaken them, even some with BLM signs virtue signaling in their front yards. It is delicious.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

I don’t do social media but live near and work among these types. They are nervous even thought the virtue signaling is off the charts. How many will defect, I don’t know.

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

It’s all so fake. These people are the first to quiver and cry when things get hot. I’ve already had verbal altercations with such people. They’ll engage in some kind of arrogant behavior, but once you confront them, they’re like a deer in the headlights. I’ve had these types call the cops on me after I verbally put them in their place. They’re not used to people standing up to them or resisting. That speaks volumes about how docile our society has become — and especially how effeminate men have become as most have no backbone.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

I have interactions with professional students. Asked them what they thought about BLM and recent going ons. They keep their mouths shut. Must say i tread gingerly as well.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  SidVic
3 years ago

Fear is our friend. The cognitive-dissonance I witness among the White Woke Wannabes is getting harder for them.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

It is so refreshing to see when real or suspected uber-LIberals decide enough is enough and bring out the firearms 🙂
Witness the (St. Louis) McCloskey’s defending their castle against the white milennial protesters (I hope their charges are dropped), and more recently, the Black woman Seattle mayor who was similarly targeted by (I assume) similar protesters, because she wasn’t “woke” enough. In the Seattle case, White rich (and I assume liberal) neighbors still took it upon themselves to block entry to their communty and were visibly armed.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

I hope their charges are dropped

Do you suspect that if the charges are dropped, these people will just straight away return to leftism?

When I saw an image of these folks, my first thought was that when the machine came to eat them, they’d be asking ‘Why? We did everything right! We’re not racists!’… In much the same way that many gulag guests couldn’t believe Old Joe made such a mistake.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

What makes you think the McCloskeys are uber-liberals? Perhaps they are, but I’ve seen nothing to indicate it.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Point well made. But assumption: Attorney. Wealthy. Urban.

SidVic
SidVic
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

slip-n-fall attorney, to boot

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

True. But I’d expect race traitors to kiss BLM ass rather than threaten to fill it full of lead.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

It would be awesome to furnish the rioters maps to these plush neighborhoods with certain high profile residences notated. It may have been done, now that I think of it.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

That sounds like fun…I wonder if their fear level will increase or decrease after the election.

Either way, enjoy it and drink it in.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Seeing that GoodWhites enable most of the ‘get YT’ and white guilt attitudes and that they also currently abound in corporations as well as government, it may be reasonable to assume that when they are driven out, they no longer have any clout in the system – and this system will not listen to them. At this point, they’ll be either demoralized or they’ll double down in a desperate effort to get back into Diversity’s good books. Either way, they may be a spent force. At this point, perhaps lines will be as follows: Traditional communities policing themselves. Disaffected and… Read more »

Moss
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Personal violence is wonderfully, terrifyingly and horribly clarifying. We ain’t seen nothing yet. Lucky Our People, on average, are good at it.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Moss
3 years ago

Absolutely. The issue is that even if a GoodWhite takes a real beating, they will stand around asking questions ‘Why did this happen?’, ‘How could this happen to me?’. Even if they come to their senses and see what is happening around them, they’ll still be one step away from seeing the necessity of violence… It’ll always be someone else’s job.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Sheep need a shepherd – and sheepdogs, and wolves. We have the sheep and wolves. We are working on sheepdogs; no earthly shepherd in sight.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

Alas, they also need the shearer and the butcher 🙁

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Never underestimate the capability of cog-dissed whites to up the cog-dis to eleven, even as reality stares them in the face.

Michael
Michael
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

He doesnt have to leave his sofa. Just a drive thru social media of his own millenial relatives will likely make your point.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

There’s plenty of opportunity for “unity” – based on a desire to hunt down and eliminate us. True. But, I feel that one thing a close inspection of politics in western countries can yield is the sheer amount of infighting. Is it reasonable to imagine that once whites have been pushed out of large corporations and government (in background as well as visible roles) that the lust for YT will continue? I am not convinced, and believe that infighting among ethnic groups will eventually take center stage – at least here in the UK. The amount of animosity incomers from… Read more »

Bell Curve
Bell Curve
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

I tend to doubt that. In both the United Kingdom and the United States, White Europeans are by far the most accomplished demographic and always will be; the entire history of these nations was based on those groups. So, no matter how small the White share of the population gets, there will still be plenty of points of resentment the elite can use to kick up anti-white hate among the imbecile POC prole class. In South Africa, Whites are a small minority but are relentlessly discriminated against and harassed with the help of social-climbing White females in the government and… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Bell Curve
3 years ago

I take your point about South Africa, it is a very disconcerting situation. Additionally you point out that government harassment is help along by these white females. Quite a large swathe of the white race is it’s own worst enemy. Removing these whites from office may ease the harassment, in my view. I am not too familiar with South African politics, I suspect ethnic infighting would be a tribal affair, but in the UK, we have large bodies of people from a whole host of different backgrounds looking for their slice of the pie and here I think is the… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

That’s despite it being completely rebuilt twice!
Haiti was another example of one group of whites using the vibrant hordes against another group of whites where in the end, all whites lose. If there were any (((whites))) in Haiti, they were every bit as genocided as the rest.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

You should check out British Empire History, they’ve used muslims against eastern europeans all the time.
I’ve always found it funny how Brexit was about getting rid of poles(better looking than most brits) and other eastern europeans, but keeping in the vibrancy that rapes their daughters.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Personally, I find the vitriol and racism white Brits direct toward Poles and other Slavs rather disgusting.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

The “Hitler did nothing wrong” crowd conveniently overlooks his wars against Slavic peoples

sentry
sentry
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

Icebreaker shows Operation Barbarossa had nothing to do with Hitler wanting to depopulate Russia, jews played mind games you. It’s the jews who starved ukrainians & currently wish to replace white population, opening the doors to all sorts of enemies of white race.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

What about Lebensraum in the east? Haven’t read Mein Kampf so I’m relying on secondary sources.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

I tried to plow through Mein Kampf. Not an easy read. I do recall that at his rallies, admission was one mark and no Jews allowed 😀

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Hmm, depends on the type of nationalist you are. I don’t mind germans settling in my country, or any other white. If you’re the type who cares not to mix your bloodline with other ethnic whites then yeah, germans were on the wrong. I am of the opinion a child of scandinavians who moved to Italy will behave similarly to italians because their cultures & sensitivities are very similar. I don’t care either way. The problem with nazis is that historians push to the front the most extremist of their kind(Hitler was not one of them) wishing to make them… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Hitler clearly had territorial ambitions on historic Slavic and otherwise non-German land. He clearly believed in “right of conquest” for all that his supposedly-world-spanning ambitions were Brit/American intelligence fictions (the Brits famously admitted to manufacturing the “Nazi Future Western Hemisphere Map” FDR used as a prop). He was a Nordic supremacist who saw Anglos as brother-Nords but Slavs as inferior but for the Rus-descent elite in the Kiev-Novgorad-Minsk-St. Pete-Moscow set, who were initially Nordic and repeatedly re-married into German bloodlines. Many were more German than Slavic. Bear in mind this is pretty much how Germans and Scandis in general saw… Read more »

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

Hitler liberated Orthodox Christians who were being slaughtered by the Bolsheviks. Further, many Orthodox priests volunteered for covert missions along the side of Germans who air-dropped them deep into Communist-occupied territory so that they could move discretely and sabotage targets of interest that were under control by the Soviets. There are many of stories about how Russian Orthodox Christians welcomed the SS who they saw as liberators.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Yes and no. I like Poles, and yes, a lot of them tend to be extremely good looking. But the Brits – like the French and the Germans – deserve to have their own country. While Whites are similar, they aren’t fungible. Rather than blaming White Brits, blame their handlers who forbade any criticism of the subcons and Caribbean blacks.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

Brits have been demonizing and screwing other Europeans for a very long time.

Some Guy
Some Guy
3 years ago

A lot of people believe in the concept that history always moves in the progressive left direction. So when they see BLM and calls for white people to atone, decades of conditioning induce a pavlovian response to follow. This is why suburban whites, suburban white women specifically, follow suit. To them, the option to push back or go another direction induces the conditioning that they’re the angry whites shouting at innocent blacks going to a formerly whites-only school in the 1950s like they saw on TV. Yet at the same time there’s the gnawing feeling that it’s not right. So… Read more »

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Some Guy
3 years ago

Excellent comment. The violence has forced more Whites to think of themselves as an identity group, and to come to terms with how batshit crazy so many of these unmarried, childless White Millennial females are.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Some Guy
3 years ago

Yes, many believe the browning of America is a natural step in line with history, when in fact it’s jewish conditioning.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Agree with sentry- replacement migration has replaced war as our most terrible problem.

Soft war has replaced hard war- the woman’s way versus the men’s way?

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

Someone on their side read Camp of the Saints and said, “hey, that might work!”

Moss
Member
Reply to  Some Guy
3 years ago

The only solution is that white people need to think of themselves as an identity group.

THAT will be visited by the historians of the future as the catalyst to change that leads to Our survival.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Moss
3 years ago

Yes. And it is happening, to a large degree right before our eyes. We should thank our current elite rulers, their media, their Leftist mobs, their academia, and their corporate super-rich for stoking the chaos and destruction. Zman’s struggle to keep up with increasing traffic here is one small indicator.

waitingForTheStorm
Member
3 years ago

I am, thankfully, retired and don’t have to deal with the diversity bullshit anymore. The last year I worked, the team sent an especially offensive diversity training video mandating proper worship of every type of human defect and perversity imaginable. I sent them an email. I told them that, next time they wanted to do this, they should just send me a pistol in the interoffice mail and direct me to eat a bullet. At least, I would not irretrievably lose 90 minutes of an otherwise productive life. (Sometimes I can be a sarcastic SOB). The responder at least had… Read more »

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Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  waitingForTheStorm
3 years ago

I must be lucky.
I had a mandatory workplace sensitivity training last year, led by a black woman in corporate. I was expecting 2 hours of woke and instead got common sense things like “don’t be a dick”, “examine context before getting offended”, and “don’t invite a female co-worker to sit on your lap”. Basically, ‘don’t be a retard”.
We’ll see if it’s the same in 5 years.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

“Examine context before getting offended” – that’s hate speech, goy!

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

I had 15 yrs ago at a sc university. It was bad. But one of the professors kept using the word “niggardly”. That lightened my mood.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  SidVic
3 years ago

Some notable figure got in trouble once for using that word. Can’t remember who. I got in trouble once for using the term “nigger-rigged”. Oops.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  SidVic
3 years ago

Did you snigger when he said “niggardly?”

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  waitingForTheStorm
3 years ago

I’m guessing you were already vested in your benefits ? 😀

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  waitingForTheStorm
3 years ago

The most effective weapon against that kind of brain-washing is to request, with appropriate cc’s to all the bosses and especially to the “hr” dept., for a charge number and say that to appreciate the profound content you must prepare a few hours before and also to review a few hours after the event…

Exile
Exile
3 years ago

There may be reasons not to count Trump out in November, but there are many more reasons not to care. Re: tiger-riding, there is no reason why a reasonable person shouldn’t recognize that: a) Societal forces cannot be perfectly controlled and unforeseen consequences always happen (“no battle plan survives the first shot”); and b) cabals of (((influencers))) who enjoy outsized money, political, media and academic power still do everything they can to steer the tiger at their own enemies first and unjustly profit from the chaos left in his rampaging wake. For example: https://www.unz.com/estriker/national-justice-exclusive-zionist-groups-plan-multi-front-assault-on-free-speech-over-zoom/ If society is just a roil… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

As for (b), their future is the fate of Eliot Engel. The tribe historically has overreached, and their feral foot soldiers view them as Super Whites. I generally agree with you, but let’s not see the drivers as invincible because they most certainly are not. In 1922 the tribe was the power center of the USSR and poised to control the world. Ten years later it was reduced to mush. Ten years further out they were mushier. Ten years further out they were back to near-control. As for the Jewish Supremacist push to stifle free speech, that has been well… Read more »

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Exile
Exile
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

When betting against the Tribe, you should always keep this bad card in mind – it’s a permanent feature of whatever hand they’re holding.

The guys saying “give up, Jews have too strong a hand” don’t realize they’re always holding this permanent deuce while Whitey gets to play all 5 cards.

We don’t have Jewish levels of built-in neurosis, hyper-aggression, disagreeableness, perversion, greed and a boundless inferiority complex.

They always own themselves (e.g. “We Will Replace You” headlines). The trick is being determined, ruthless and positioning yourself to capitalize on the inevitable opportunities.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

One hundred percent.
Heads up. I’m stealing the Jewish deuce for future rhetoric.

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RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

Money is necessary, but not sufficient, to explain the betrayal of the electorate by the elected. The blackmail tapes explain the rest.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

Epstein didn’t die for nothing.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Jack Dobson said: “Epstein didn’t die for nothing.”
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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

Beautifully crafted phrase “the illusion and burden of choice.” That is really what operates not merely politically, but culturally and economically throughout the US. And people keep channel surfing through life because they now have a ‘choice’ of which version of indoctrination they prefer. You can have 25 types of detergent, but not the one that works because California banned it. You can ‘plan’ your family and finances, but the economic and social premises you base your choices on will be eroded and shifted faster than you can commit to them.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
3 years ago

What we may witnessing is not a revolution, but one of those times when the Left forgot they were riding the tiger and toppled off, only to be eaten by the tiger, or in this case, his keepers. It is both. The idea behind the riots and violence was to make people think they had to elect the Left to make the madness stop. The strategy worked until a certain point. You could tell the moment when state-sponsored domestic terrorism had started to outrage the public. It was when the propaganda outlets stopped broadcasting the violence, which is ongoing, and… Read more »

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usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

The left has always had its crazy, unhinged element, but the the party was controlled by more sober minded individuals (at least they postured that way) who played the long game and realized burning down buildings and other mayhem was bad optics. Now, as many have noted, the sober minded are checking out and the lunatic fringe has taken over. It’s now a matter of how much longer the center of the country puts up with this shit.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Does this mean the old are clinging to power because they are afraid of their own proteges?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Actually, the visibility of the looniest of the radicals probably works to our side’s advantage, not only by showing we are mostly right, but also forcing the Liberal Whites to show their hypocrisy (e.g. 2nd ammendment). As I explained above, even super-Liberal whites in Seattle saw fit to blockade and be visibly armed during the recent “woke” protesters’ visit to their posh neighborhood.

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Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

The emotionally stunted white women pushing BLM are also the crazy Karen’s pushing face diapers and Covid cowering.

it will take very little live and personal experience with violent crime to turn them into cop felating anti- crime zealots – especially as they age.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

Some may but quite a few of them are straight-up mentally ill and are too disturbed to realize what is in their best interest. We want no part of those.

b123
b123
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Unfortunately many are damaged beyond repair. They kept riding the carousel hoping one day Chad would commit. He never did. They have a burning hatred of white men. They also have no future since they are childless. They are also depressed, alcoholic, and likely want to die.

So why would they care what their future revolution brings?

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  b123
3 years ago

Then why are they so terrified of the China flu?

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

I would not have bet against Trump even prior to this madness; my anger about his inaction lingers but as a political strategy it has proved solid.”

Word. (I mean, strongly agree!)

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

“Fly in the ointment.” In the beforetimes, an equivalent idiomatic expression was something about a woodpile… 🙂

usNthem
usNthem
3 years ago

That 2nd paragraph was pure gold! It is extremely weird that gibbering joe is apparently the left’s standard bearer. For most of the past 50 years (until the last two), they’d have the younger, more dynamic candidate facing off against some geriatric old fart – what happened? Trump is a fairly old goat himself, but has the energy of a man half his age. He needs to get it cranked up soon to truly fire up the base – here’s hoping for the best.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

The problem for the Dem establishment (older Jews and gentile Whites) is that the younger generation (both White progressives and POC) actually believe the propaganda that they were taught whereas the establishment understands the propaganda for what it really is: A lie to gain power. That’s the inherent conflict within the party. The Dem establishment just wants to win. They don’t want a revolution. Sure, they want to take a bit more from Whites and give it to their minions, but, generally, they want to run a country that acts like it did 30 years ago but with more ethnic… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

It always has played out that way: the Left allies with Marxists, and the more brutal and ruthless win. That group is obvious.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Actually, the progression seems to be the Left allies with the Marxists who take over because their willing to commit violence but then idealists are weeded out by the realists (Stalin) who understand that it’s really just about power and not ideals.

Either way, the Kulaks are shot immediately or shipped off to gulags where they probably die anyhow, so we know where we’ll end up.

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Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

The Kulaks weren’t armed.

Bell Curve
Bell Curve
Reply to  Jim Smith
3 years ago

Neither will you be. After the left destroys the NRA, they’ll be no one left to oppose their gun grab. Don’t believe anyone who tells you they can’t do it, either.

Diversity Heretic
Member
3 years ago

Good post. My only addition is that sometimes forest fires are caused by firefighters who seek to be heroes by then “finding” and leading the effort to extinguish the fire. We may be seeing that mentality at play–only the election of Joe Biden can put an end to this chaos.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
3 years ago

That was the strategy. It appears to have failed.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
3 years ago

I read somebody the other day that talked about it this being similar to Emile Durkheim’s egotistical suicide writ large. This Revenge suicide still means you’re dead but the person you’re mad at it’s going to be really really upset when you are

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
3 years ago

There are cases where during fire season, unemployed white trash will deliberately start forest fires and then get hired on by the government to fight them 🙁

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

I’ve heard this as well, but never could figure such out. The fire fighters we have here come from professional teams that work and train together and are sent as needed all around the country. It’s a job and these guys are together during the season, training and doing whatever, until sent on a fire suppression mission. Never seen a case where a bunch of lay abouts are grabbed off the street to aid in such effort, albeit in all these matters, civilians often volunteer wrt supporting the fire fighters’ efforts in back of the line.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

If it matters, from my memory, in VA and WV in the late 70s/early 80s. They don’t get forest fires on par with the West, but they happen. Never lived on the tinder, er, West coast, but from news accounts, it’s almost not an exaggeration to say, flick a cigarette butt out the window and a whole State is afire 🙁

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Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Interesting. Having lived in both Appalachia and the tinder-box known as the Mountain West, I’ve always wondered whether there were ever any significant fires in the Appalachian region. It’s something that I never bothered to research. Nonetheless, it always seemed unlikely to me because of how much water is found throughout the region in addition to the lush vegetation.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

I’m so glad the rating system is working again! Nothing like posting a hard truth and getting a negative vote for it. It’s a dirty job, but someone’s gotta do it. 🙂

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
3 years ago

While not set in the wilderness but rather in an urban environment, wasn’t that the premises of the movie “Backdraft”?

Member
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
3 years ago

It does seem that this may be what they’re doing. Basically, hold the country hostage until we knuckle under and elect Zombie Joe. The people most angry about the rioting and shutdowns though were already the least inclined to vote for him and now have rage driving them to Trump as well.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
3 years ago

“We are seeing the confluence of events no one predicted.“
————————
*Ahem*
EXCUSE me… but I have been saying all along that the left can only fail. Every time they take over an institution or organization… they run it into the ground. That’s why the Donks are on fire and the Repubs are catching.
Really, Z… if you are going to ignore my vast contributions to your forum, I shall have to ask my wife, Karen, to stop by and read you the riot act!
😆👍

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
3 years ago

BLM is not a tiger, it’s not grass roots, it’s 100% created and controlled. OK, maybe 90% controlled. BLM was everywhere in 2015 and then overnight it was gone. BLM was a non-entity from the time it disappeared in 2015 until late May of this year when the media decided to make a circus out of the next black man that fought with the cops and got himself killed. They may very well have unleashed a tiger, but it was them who brought the tiger into America, agitated it and then let it lose in the streets. Democrats were the… Read more »

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Yep. Most here are missing the fact that all of this is entirely contrived by the DNC as an election year strategy.
It will go away after November whether it works or not.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

The uncontrolled rioting and burning of buildings is not contrived by the DNC. And it hurts them badly, which is why Trump is allowing it to happen while only making threats (promises) to stop it (after he’s re-elected).

White Alyssum
White Alyssum
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

No, it is regime change and troubles will continue until the U.S. is destabilized and its leadership overthrown.

Chiron
Chiron
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

BLM got defunded when the blacks started saying Zionism is white supremacy or something like that.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Chiron
3 years ago

BLM doesn’t have to rely solely on Jews any longer. The Zionists no longer are the sole source for extortion money and bribes.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

VERY interesting development, isn’t it?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Amusing one, too.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Yes. Wall Street, corporate America, Soros, the foundations, the techno-fascist zillionaires—they’re not all Zionists.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

They can rely on MacKenzie Bezos’s settlement.

Chesterton Wins
Chesterton Wins
Reply to  Chiron
3 years ago

This is precisely one example of falling off the tiger. The BLM golem is once again beginning to stumble out of control, and perhaps this time no amount of mandatory book reports or field trips to synagogues will be able to get it back in line.

White Alyssum
White Alyssum
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

I think Black Lives Matter quieted down after the killing of 5 police officers and wounding of 9 police officers in Dallas in 2016. They say on (((Wikipedia))) that the protest march was organized by Next Generation Action Network, but I remember it being associated with BLM. Probably a little historical revisionism happening there.
That incident marked the first time a civilian was killed by police with a robot detonating an explosive. Glad the shooter was killed but the robot use is downright Orwellian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  White Alyssum
3 years ago

What ever happened to hand tossed grenades or rocket propelled ordinance? 😉

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

BLM, or at least sympathizers, have been rioting, toppling statues and (I think) even killing people, in other countries. England. Australia. Australia ?!?

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Soros. It’s not like there aren’t leftist agitators in these countries. Also, IMHO, that shows how fake it is. These countries don’t have our history. Why in god’s name would anyone be kvetching about black slavery in Europe and Australia? From what I know, the Africans haven’t even been Australia a single generation. Australia has the unfortunate situation where they have a population even worse than Africans (don’t sleep in the road and don’t be rama rama).

Felix Krull
Member
3 years ago

The thing is, the people who are at the top of the present social order are operating under two delusions. One is they think the country can be united. 

I must say that it rather looks to me like they’re trying very hard to divide it along both racial and political lines.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

Agreed. Their problem is cobbling together these coalitions of the fringes, Bioleninism, as it has been described, is tough work since elements are hostile to one another. The idea that it would be non-White vs. White was compelling but difficult, especially since it is largely White progressives who were the masters.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
3 years ago

Statecraft has always been riding the tiger, which is why having a dominant culture is a good idea. Nation-states are much more stable than empires— as long as they can resist being conquered.

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Steve in Greensboro
Member
3 years ago

There is no center. The left is moving more and more rapidly leftward. The right is moving leftward, but more slowly. But while there was some substantial overlap between the left and right 25 years ago, today there is almost none. Pew conducted a survey June 8-18, 2017 and published a timeline with the headline “Less Overlap In the Political Values of Reps and Dems”. In 1994, 30% of Dems were more conservative than the median Reps and 36% of Reps were more liberal than the average Dem. In 2017, only 3% of Dems and 5% of Reps were in… Read more »

Jacques Lebeau
Member
3 years ago

I don’t generally buy into conspiracy theories, but the whole BLM/Saint George Floyd thing is so pervasive, so monolithic, that I find it hard not to suspect a hidden hand behind it all. Perhaps Zman is right, the Crazy that reigns this summer is just the result of an unfortunate confluence of events, or the fact that our masters all sing from the same song sheet, but from my naive POV it sure looks orchestrated. If the Dems win in November, I can’t imagine the chaos that will ensue. For that reason, I pray Trump comes through — he leaves… Read more »

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Jacques Lebeau
3 years ago

There was quite a bit of coordination in anticipation of the next black thug killed at the hands of a white cop. It initially was tried with Ahmaud Arbery, but he was quickly revealed as a typical black criminal piece of shit. So a few weeks later George Floyd, also a dirt bag but that wasn’t as quickly known, served as a stand-by. The same appears to have happened with Covid. The coordination was in place to crater the economy after the next predictable virus outbreak. These are not conspiracies but long-term planning. In fact, think back to the summer… Read more »

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Drew
Drew
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

In fairness to Fauci, he’s literally paid to be ready to roll out a response to a potential pandemic. The D in CDC stands for disease, after all.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

And to help create one, or at least fund GoF research with dangerous viruses that might be seen in future pandemics, or cause one, if it were to get loose 🙁

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Jacques Lebeau
3 years ago

The real conspiracy is how do you keep a neolithic people from burning the place down? This country burns so much time and energy trying to placate them, keep them fed and happy and mostly quiet. But even monkeys know how to rattle a cage for more food. At the end of the day, I’m sorry to say that they have no place in modern society and must be relocated en-masse.

Not ridin' with Biden
Not ridin' with Biden
3 years ago

The Biden operation may have turned on “defund” but I haven’t. After the many, many, many examples of anarcho-tyranny in the recent riots, I no longer care what happens to the cops. The most recent example is from “based” Texas, where a scumbag sheriff paraded a sticker guy in a jumpsuit in front of the media as if he was Al Capone, yet the same sheriff allowed BLM and Antifa rioters to run wild, forcing locals to defend their monuments—and the sheriff arrested some of those locals too. Fuck the police. Anarcho-tyranny was well-established long before the current riots, of… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Not ridin' with Biden
3 years ago

Cops are not allies. They can be, at best, useful tools.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Not ridin' with Biden
3 years ago

That case really shows how far the rot has spread in Texas.

Meanwhile Harvard Law’s cowboy gunslinger Lyin’ Ted owns the libs by reinforcing fake memes of White violence and peddles more colorblind CivNat hopium in another showboat hearing that will accomplish nothing.

Adam BGessian
Adam BGessian
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

I will be delighted if I’m proven wrong in November, but I also just don’t see the evidence that these riots have become a tiger the Dems have fallen off. Judging by the overall “meh” reaction to two months of the worst rioting since the 1960s, most people seem to be either sympathetic or indifferent. There is no evidence whatsoever of any kind of political backlash. Speaking of politics, I also don’t get the Z Man’s constant ricocheting between black pills, red pills, and blue pills. One day he’s given up on the GOP, the next day he’s speculating on… Read more »

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  Adam BGessian
3 years ago

The Z is actually on the pulse of where the wind is blowing. Some days it blows strongly against Trump then Biden announces blacks all think the same and you wonder just how many will actually vote for him?
One day the GOP looks like cannon fodder for leftists then the next day they look stronger and might just hold up then they are back to being cannon fodder.
Its all in flux right now.
It could go either way for the GOP and Trump in 2020.
The ZMan reflects what is happening in the world.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Adam BGessian
3 years ago

Things shift daily if not hourly. Surely that is apparent. Someone consistent all the time, given the volatile circumstances, is someone impervious to evidence. That’s not a good way to go through life.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

Is “Lyin’ Ted” Ted Cruz? Every once in a while a politician says something that takes me aback, and makes me wonder who he/she/insert pronoun here/ is beholden to. When the question of drug supply chains came up he said something to the effect of “we need to move our supply chains to India or Israel.” Not the US, never the US.

Balkan Fanatic
Balkan Fanatic
3 years ago

I
We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats’ feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar

Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death’s other Kingdom
Remember us—if at all—not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.
…………………

T.S. Eliot
The Hollow Men

Barnard
Barnard
3 years ago

One factor of the upcoming election I haven’t seen discussed is what happens to the 5% of the vote that was split between Gary Johnson, Jill Stein and Evan McMullin in 2016. The Libertarians have nominated lifelong party lackey who put out a platform that sounds like Paul Ryan for total drug legalization. They will revert to their below 1% norm. What happens to the rest of these voters? I would guess no more than a third of the McMullin voters refuse to the vote for Trump, although the only close state he had a significant vote total in was… Read more »

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Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
3 years ago

Summer of George info: I just spoke to my father-in-law who lives in suburban Minneapolis. He said 40 businesses have decided to move out of downtown Minneapolis. This isn’t where the riots occurred, but actual downtown.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

The riots in the 60’s were what killed Detroit for good, same process. Los Angeles with Watts as well. The 90’s riots were a dumpster fire, little left to consume.

eah
eah
3 years ago

The other delusion is they truly think they are the moral leaders of our society and they are fully in control of this machine they have inherited.

This is actually/practically the entire raison d’être of politics in this modern era of ‘diminishing concerns’ — this is why they spend so much time doing and saying what they think they must in order to demonstrate their moral fitness to lead.
Otherwise the plebs might begin to suspect politicians are largely the useless fucks they indeed are.

ProUSA
ProUSA
3 years ago

The Left has always sued to advance. Judicial Watch sues and does the job that pussy Republicans won’t do. JW is combatting on multiple fronts, most importantly, voter fraud, which is the only thing standing between us and the gulags.

please donate!

Exile
Exile
Reply to  ProUSA
3 years ago

If I believed Trump, much less the GOP in general, was standing between me and a gulag, I might be tempted.

I don’t. I’m not.

When Judicial Watch sues to get White Nationalist parties on the ballot somewhere, hit me up again.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
3 years ago

One side is full of crusading vigor while the other is seething quietly and nervously, having come to the realization that it’s spent the past few decades floating from one flight-of-fancy to another and another. The first group sees the election as its sacred final passage while the second sees only an unreliable windbag who at best may act as a temporary stop gap measure. If the first group finds an election result not to its liking they will litigate and recount until they get their desired outcome. The invertebrates leading the second group won’t say a word in protest.… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 years ago

What matters is the change of White sentiment. A political solution in the current environment is impossible. Making Whites acknowledge that is the key thing we can do.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

No argument here.
The change in sentiment will be the simpler part. The action required to put that to effective use will be the more difficult part. It will happen but it won’t be pretty.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 years ago

Younger whites have less to lose and so won’t be as hesitant, especially if they feel backed into a corner. Dangerous game tptb are playing. They could’ve blown off pressure at any time, but they’re going for it all.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

This has been their biggest mistake, not allowing a potentially very powerful enemy any means of retreat or ability to publicly vent…and thus periodically reduce any building pressure. This is probably in large part due to the old progressive guard having to placate and being shoved aside by their animated and often mindless offspring.

Moss
Member
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 years ago

That makes a great deal of sense. Thank you for that insight.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Moss
3 years ago

I half expect to see some of the old guard progressives migrating our way as a form of self preservation at things become more and more volatile.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 years ago

Legitimacy-bleed has reached terminal levels. Low turnout + ballot tricks in November will produce a toxic hellbrew of accusations, recriminations and finger-pointing reminiscent of 2000. The electoral college will not be with us by 2028, likely 2024 – states will no longer have any significance on a national level, reduced to administrative subdivisions of the North American Province of GloboShlomo.

But an increasing number of Americans just won’t care because voting doesn’t matter.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

My money is on 2024. If they have both houses and the executive branch in 1/21, then one of their first acts will be to grant statehood to DC and PR. If we’re going to get kicked I want it to be good and hard so enough of our people stop hemming and hawing and come to the realization that they have to do more than grumble or support the next based Republican. Assuming Trump goes down, by Thursday or Friday Rubio/Hawley will be getting more coverage than Biden will in an attempt to quiet the restless natives before they… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 years ago

First act will be to pack the SCOTUS. Statehood for DC and PR will be challenged in the courts.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

When browns and Jews controls the legislature and the executive they will ignore the court. To stay relevant and to not be purged the court will rubber stamp whatever their masters demand. If they do make a stand they will as effective as was the Maginot Line.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 years ago

Courts in browner/blacker countries, as the rest of their governments, are not known for possessing the wisdom of Solomon 🙂 Our own Supremes have handed down some real head-scratchers, but our neighbor to the south:
https://indicaonline.com/blog/mexico-legalizes-marijuana-use-in-supreme-court-ruling/

Toasty
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 years ago

Don’t forget.

1st mass shooting after Biden is sworn in, the 2nd amendment goes bye bye.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

A side note that bankruptcy protection for the states would formalize this as states seeking to alleviate some of their debts will be assigned a Federal minder to be the one who is actually in charge. And for anyone who thinks that their state can dodge this, keep in mind that that the Feds can bankrupt every state in the union tomorrow by pulling their “temporary” medicaid subsidy.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 years ago

Gotta hand it to the guy who used the payroll loan/grant program to buy fancy cars and strippers 😀

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
3 years ago

The fact is, the people in charge and responsible for the mayhem we are seeing, are not master manipulators controlling the system. They are not play 4-D chess to maintain their power behind the scenes. They are riding a tiger that they poke and harass on occasion, without realizing it. I am not Z-man but I do agree with this message. The problem is that the left is that they stopped believing in God a long time ago. That means they are open to believing in the State as their God. They intend to bring heaven here to this small… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
3 years ago

I’ve always felt that Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, all of the very old Democrats have always known that they’re riding the tiger. These days they spend countless hours attempting to keep all those new AOCs of the party from wrecking the place. The old coots in charge of that party are more disciplined than anything underneath them. They worship money and power, not ideology. As evil as they are they’re smarter and more disciplined than the GOP ones too. Part of this is that the best and brightest of the left go into the government apparatus at some point. Given what’s… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

The old coots in charge of that party…

The old coots are not in charge of the party, the globalists are.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
3 years ago

If the Left was smart, they could have federalized the police and created a form of reparations and gibs to blacks unprecedented in history. BLM had momentum, sympathies across the spectrum, a compliant media, and a willing ruling class. They threw it all away to riot and cause mayhem in cities all the while failing to use their advantage to push far-left legislation. The Right was on the ropes with their arms down and the Left whiffed the knockout blow.
The minute one side or the other stops being the stupid party, it’s going to get interesting.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

The Establishment Left wants a piece of those reparations, so it whiffed.

bubba
bubba
3 years ago

A Trump win is not a win for the right. There’s nothing to get excited about this time around, other than the usual cope of “oh at least he’ll buy us some time”.

Do I kinda hope he wins? Yea. But I’m not popping bottles of champagne like we did in 2016.

White Alyssum
White Alyssum
Reply to  bubba
3 years ago

If Trump wins, it could be different this time due to how crazy and openly lawless the left has become trying to reclaim power. The problem is not Trump’s smarts or instincts, which are good, but that he’s actually too nice of a man to crack down and be the authoritarian figure we need him to be to destroy the globalist leftist creeps. He needs a little more Bolsonaro or Pinochet in him. And yes, that indicates the US has devolved into a corrupt hellhole, due to the outsiders that rule us and due to the millions of low quality,… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by White Alyssum
Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  White Alyssum
3 years ago

Again, the only reason to hope for a Trump re-election, and it is a good one, is that it will sow an enormous amount of chaos, possibly even a refusal to acknowledge the results and a military coup. Expect nothing substantive from that since there is no political solution to our crisis.

White Alyssum
White Alyssum
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

You’re right, I need to remind myself of that. I keep falling back on the thinking that our authorities will correct themselves and we’ll go back on track, but that’s no longer the case. (Maybe never was.) That was the old USA, now gone. Praying for conservative military men to take over, frankly.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

But, as noted elsewhere here Jack it does buy us time, does it not?

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Jim Smith
3 years ago

The longer things get strung out the worse it is for us. Making the bastards go fully totalitarian quickly is the best bet. We have been out a time a long time.

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

“Buying time” versus accelerating the debacle is the question for the d-right in the election of 2020.

Personally, I go back and forth about which is more likely to be advantageous. The situation is unprecedented, so 2020 hindsight (see what I did there?) can’t predict the alternative outcomes.

Whichever strategy one favors, it will be important to keep a close watch on both macro and micro events before the election. In the bizarre world we now inhabit, some kink we can’t imagine yet might be a game changer, and offer a clue about which way to bet.

Last edited 3 years ago by Gravity Denier
Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Gravity Denier
3 years ago

Good points. I always am open to new evidence. Whatever option would produce the most chaos is where I am. Right now I think a Trump re-election would cause the most because the Left either will ignore the results or go on an even madder rampage. As you point out, that might change.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Gravity Denier
3 years ago

Imo we’ve had enough acceleration for the time being. Not that it matters. The situation is spiraling out of control, so I’m for stomping the brake until it burns up.

Last edited 3 years ago by Paintersforms
Bell Curve
Bell Curve
Reply to  Jim Smith
3 years ago

Time for what? For the last 4 years the right has been spining its wheels. Do you honestly see that changing over the next 4 years? I don’t see anything on the horizon. Everyone who tried anything was shut down or shunned by the right.A Trump victory would almost certainly result in the same: the right goes back to sleep and things get worse as Conservatism Inc. consolidates its hold over the party. Trump may even do something stupid like start a war with Iran, which would further damage the party.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Since my guess is as good as anyone’s for the coming election, here’s yet another disturbing scenario. I don’t think a military coup is very likely. If I recall my US history correctly, if the popular election is botched, the whole thing gets decided by the House of Representatives. This is bad enough in itself. But I think they could elect absolutely anyone they please. Even in normal times it’s scary enough that Pelosi is third in line for Presidential successon 🙂

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

There will be blood if that happens.

Good.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  White Alyssum
3 years ago

There is a small possibility that Trump, self-centered and lightly disciplined as he is, could go full Pinochet after a re-election. It’s not like he has much else to build for, given the Uniparty and the future demography he faces. But I wouldn’t bet on it. I basically will vote for him to tweak the Lefties, but their further discomfort is about all I am looking for, out of all of this.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

And yet you allow for the possibility that you may be pleasantly surprised, Dutch. There is that, however remote the chance.

james wilson
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

No chance for full or partial Pinochet. Trump likes his life, his assets, his heirs, and his comfort a good deal more than he likes your liberty. The wealthy are going to have the same liberties under any system we are likely to see, if not more.

bubba
bubba
Reply to  White Alyssum
3 years ago

All of that assumes that Trump is on OUR side – which is a notion I’ve completely abandoned. My unproven theory is that Trump ran to secure a political future for his kids, that’s it. How else would you explain bringing in Javanka to the WH? I forgot the pundit’s name but there was one woman who made a good point – Trump NEVER laid out any specific plans during his candidacy or even during his presidency. It’s all been jingoistic crap like MAGA and “we have the greatest economy ever ever”. Not a single realistic policy proposal was ever… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  bubba
3 years ago

Well, he did campaign on “ending DACA on day one.” 😉

greyenlightenment
3 years ago

Just think..if trump cared 1/10 as much about illegal immigration as he does about the economy and how high the stock market is, we’d probably have that wall up last year.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  greyenlightenment
3 years ago

It’s obvious that “LINE GO UP” is all he has. And money printer go Brrrrrrr makes it all happen. Great for the 1% and really bad for everybody else.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  greyenlightenment
3 years ago

It’s been said a thousand times, so here is #1001: The problem is not illegal immigration, the problem is legal immigration. You could build the most formidible wall imaginable, but if your policy is to let anyone with an H1B visa or a claimant for asylum, they get invited in the front door, and are given room and board.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

You are right, but it is both as well. I’ve never read of a criminal act by an H1B VISA holder. But there are myriad incidences of criminality every year by IA’s. Both spigots need to be turned off, but if one were more important or rather prioritized over the other, then it would be IA’s—and as I’ve said before, a wall does not solve the problem of IA’s as Trump would have the naive believe.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
3 years ago

On Wednesday, a group of 20 House and Senate Democrats introduced a bill that would amend the Federal Reserve Act to require the central bank to operate “in a manner that fosters the elimination of disparities across racial and ethnic groups with respect to employment, income, wealth, and access to affordable credit.” (from Amren) Elimination of disparities means taking from you in one form or another and giving it to them. It is putting into law the legalized discrimination against whites and the confiscation of their property through direct transfer, devaluation and other means deemed effective. This goes on already but largely… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 years ago

This, as all such acts which do not take into consideration innate differences among the races (minorities) is doomed to failure.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Yves Vannes
3 years ago

I was just looking at the Fed’s site yesterday. One of it’s goals that jumped out at me was that the Fed conducts the nation’s monetary policy to promote maximum employment, stable prices, and moderate long-term interest rates in the U.S. economy; From an economic perspective fussing over maximum employment and stable prices seems to be a result of people being obsessed with the concept of fairness. Perhaps price controls and tariffs are important in certain sectors – and they can definitely be used to create a certain effect – but our economics now seems geared toward being fair… And… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Member
3 years ago

yeah, good spot about biden turning on the antifa BLM agenda. That surprised me. Good analysis. I liked the forest fire analogy.

Chiron
Chiron
3 years ago

My view is that Russiagate wasn’t really the DNC attacking Trump or the GOP, but indirectly attacking the Leftists in their own ranks and push the Dems in a more Neocon direction to satisfy the (((donor))) class.
The DNC and it’s media pretty much destroyed their best bet for the future in Tulsi Gabbard thanks to Russiagate. It’s obvious the DNC honchos want Kamala Harris as the Vice for Biden since she is their pockets.

White Alyssum
White Alyssum
Reply to  Chiron
3 years ago

Tulsi Gabbard = woman of color, single, no children, Hindu, military. Yuck. No thank you.

whitney
Member
3 years ago

“They” – i.e. people unlike me

We are united in our “theyness”.

And I maintain that this is not an attack on white people it is an attack on Christendom. The attacks on white people are a smoke screen to hide the real battle

Michael
Michael
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

The difference between white people and Christendom is that white people still exist.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Michael
3 years ago

Ouch!

sentry
sentry
3 years ago

“They are not play 4-D chess to maintain their power behind the scenes. They are riding a tiger that they poke and harass on occasion, without realizing it. “
Corona was planned since 97(at least), based on a Kennedy magazine. This feels like 4-D chess to me.
But I agree that the minions of the elites are a bunch of retards. Elites need people without scruples to coordinate society, their problem is that minions with screwed up morals are usually not very smart or reliable.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

I see it more as a “prepared leadership” thing, ready to not let a crisis go to waste. Lefty has a giant binder full of plays for various catastrophes, developments, world events, etc. Like obits for famous ppl, they’re ready to go once the body hits the slab. For example, the DNC just happened to have a 2,000 page $3 trillion relief bill ready to go within days of when DNC governors shut it all down for the COVID freakout; all of the gungrabber stuff works this way. Every time some nutter shoots up the quickie mart, some Dem has… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

Exactly.

Mikep
Mikep
3 years ago

Good post Zman, nice to see that you’re back on the medication. We all need something more positive from time to time, if for no other reason than to keep hope alive. Personally I’m hoping for a second wave before November, this time of “muzzle rash”. https://www.thelist.com/233001/do-face-masks-really-cause-cold-sores/

diconez
diconez
3 years ago

there ARE secret cabals, not just one. which is why it’s easier for the Left to adjust and ride the tiger, they fall back on their committee/soviet structure and spread out the errors. like steel plates absorbing shock: one day the extreme left gets hit hard with “defund the police” backlash, the next day the center left back pedals and says they support the average cops and whatnot. thus the left’s communal spirit helps them on the defense, but when on attack they gather too much trash and poke the mob’s tiger too much eventually. the Right meanwhile is always… Read more »

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3 years ago

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Cabron
Cabron
3 years ago

Biden is the candidate because he knows where the bodies are buried. If he turns it is game over for the Obama legacy.

Vegetius
Vegetius
3 years ago

Z, you know a lot about a lot, but bubba you don’t know shit about forest fires.

One day we’ll get you squared away.

MN Steel
MN Steel
3 years ago

No good will come from this, if the elections happen.

TINVOWOOT, you’re on your own, I hope you have your own tribe IRL.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  MN Steel
3 years ago

TINVOWOOT?

Have you been huffing paint thinner again?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Official Bologna Tester
3 years ago

Xylene or Lacquer Thinner work better 😀

MN Steel
MN Steel
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

You have both changed my mind 180°.

I shall vote harder this time.

My only question is should I vote for the empty vessel with the agenda to actively destroy me and my way of life, or the “known quantity” that passively does the same, but with “dogwhistles” that make me feel good?

Suburban_elk
Reply to  MN Steel
3 years ago

You make it sound like a hard choice.

MN Steel
MN Steel
Reply to  Suburban_elk
3 years ago

I ask, honestly, if there is enough real-world difference between these figureheads to make a discernable impact on the positive quality of life?

Besides the rates of black unemployment (.gov jobs) and corporate taxes?

Serious question.

Major Hoople
Major Hoople
Member
Reply to  MN Steel
3 years ago

I’ve come to the conclusion that while Trump is fairly useless, he doesn’t actually hate us. The democrats do. And the Republican establishment does also, and actively aids the worst parts of our society. So I’ll vote for Trump, though it doesn’t matter that much where I am, and will oppose any establishment Republican. And don’t bother with arguments about how we have to have the senate to nominate S.C. justices. That’s old and tired.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  MN Steel
3 years ago

MN Steel said: “I ask, honestly, if there is enough real-world difference between these figureheads to make a discernable impact on the positive quality of life?”

“When the fall is all that’s left, it matters a great deal.”
-Prince Richard
From: The lion in winter.
Stick your thumb in their commie eye, one more time.

Last edited 3 years ago by Official Bologna Tester