Gaming The Election

For most people who plan to vote in the upcoming election, the choice is clear and they don’t have to think about it very much. They know their guy is the right choice and the other guy represents the end of the world as we know it. There is nothing anyone could say to them to change their mind. In fact, the number of persuadable people probably rounds to zero. The issue in this election, like most elections, is which side is able to get their partisans to vote, either in person or by mail.

For dissidents it is not that easy. Once you make it to this side of the great divide you know elections are not a solution, but, at best, another opportunity to get more people heading in this direction. Supporting Trump in 2016 was about breaking the pattern so people were not as locked into the old political framing. After four years of Trump, we are faced with a new situation. Is a Trump win better for our side or is a Biden- Harris win better for our side? The answer is not obvious.

Often, our elections are the opposite of what we assume. The pull of partisan politics in a liberal democracy tends to warp the thinking of even the most cynical. In 2000 it seemed obvious that Bush was better than Gore, but in reality, Gore would have been the better choice for white Americans. Bush was the worst thing to happen to white America since the Emancipation Proclamation. Counter-intuitively, Bill Clinton was one of best presidents for white people in the 20th century.

Additionally, even dissidents can fall into the old Cold War mentality of judging candidates by their economic or foreign policy pretensions. The Democrats are the commie doves, while the Republicans are the capitalist hawks. Even at this late date, many dissidents still cling to their libertarian or conservative priors. Instead of thinking about the outcome that serves their people, they think about the outcome that serves their narrow interests as individuals. Group think is hard.

Then there is the bitter loser problem. Many people circulating on this side of the great divide were sure Trump was Hitler. When he turned out to be just another guy, they took it personally, as they personalize everything. Trump did not just get beat by the system, he deliberately finked on them. The only way to assuage their hurt feelings is to show that mean old orange man they are super mad at him. Richard Spencer, for example, is now “Bobbin for Biden” in this election.

If you can stand outside it all and just look at the two outcomes in terms of how they would serve the interests of dissidents, the choice is not so clear. The vinegar club that is now sour on Trump are right that four more years of Trump are unlikely to result in positive changes for our side. Trump is not an ideologue and he tends to personalize everything, so four more years means four more years of squabbling with illiterates on the cable chat shows, but not much else.

On the other hand, when the Left wins, they tend to make good use of their opportunity, so Biden winning means they will move the state in their direction. The most likely outcome of a Biden term in office is an orgy of globalism. Trump has caused the drive to global corporatism to stall, so the usual suspects will be eager to make up for lost time once the addle-minded Biden is in office. On the other hand, the culture war probably goes on hiatus, as it will no longer be useful to them.

Neither of those outcomes are objectively good or bad for dissidents. If you are a fatalist, then the Biden acceleration will be appealing. If you are in the camp that thinks buying time is important, then the Trump interregnum is appealing. Both of those positions miss the point. This is a culture war, so public policy only matters in regards to how it opens the culture to our arguments. In either case, the nature of the culture war changes very little, so both outcomes are a net neutral.

Now, a Trump loss would open one important avenue for us. It would reveal to those rank and file white people that the demographics have now changed and those changes are permanent. That silent majority they were sure exists is a myth. Instead, whites are effectively a minority population. Imagine Trump getting 70% of the white vote but losing the election. All that groveling to non-whites would suddenly become a bitter rebuke of the old civic nationalist politics.

On the other hand, Trump losing would be cast by Republicans as a rejection of racist and evil politics of the past. Both faces of the political class are ready for a campaign to convince those disappointed whites that the reason Trump lost is they foolishly supported a racist. Their path to redemption is to wash the feet harder. The ease with which these people convinced so many to wear their underwear on their head to ward off the virus should be a warning to the acceleration crowd.

The “win by losing” theory is like libertarianism, in that it sounds good in the classroom, but it is nonsense in the field. The fact is, Trump winning would give us more riots and mayhem, so the white awakening would probably accelerate. The fact is, more white people have become racially aware in the last three months than in the last three years, despite Trump’s groveling. There are much larger forces at work than one election, so the outcome is just one small data point.

That said, winning breeds confidence. Most of the people ready to vote Trump are more ready for the trip over the great divide than at any point in their lives. That transformation will continue, regardless of the outcome, but a little confidence never hurts. In a way, mobilizing to put Trump over the top is good practice for the sorts of politics that lie in the near future for these white people. They may not be ready to know it yet, but their pro-Trump activity is their first step into the future.

Greg Johnson pointed out, that small minds focus on people, while average minds focus on events. Great minds focus on ideas, but it is the combination of these that provides the full picture. Most of the partisan squabbling on-line about the election will be among one of those first two camps. What will matter is how this election serves the promotion of racial awareness among whites. More specifically, how will the outcome give whites confidence to look at the world racially?

The critical issue in this election is in how dissidents use it to promote their interests in their daily lives. Passing around this story to whites still trapped in the fog of old politics is more helpful than mocking those calling Harris a radical or a commie. Instead of mocking those “boomers’ trapped in the past, offer them a way forward by using this election to normalize racial politics for them. That’s the gift Biden gave us by picking Kamala Harris as his running mate.

Ultimately, the result of this election will matter very little. The demographic die is cast and there is no voting our way out of it. America will soon function like Spain after the fall of the Roman Empire. What will matter in this election and for the remaining elections is how dissidents use these opportunities to awaken white people to the reality of this age and provide a positive way forward into white identity politics. It is not about the man or the event, but about us and our ideas.

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Drake
Drake
3 years ago

I need 4 more years to prepare. And I really want to see all the news “journalists” cry again. So an easy choice for me even if my vote is meaningless in my state.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Prepare for what? People have been saying similar stuff for a very long time.

The time will never be right. If you think you need to do something, take action now.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

Selling my house early next year. Job stuff going on that could be better… Looking at places in WV next week. Life doesn’t always cooperate with my plans.

Name
Name
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

My brother doing same regarding WV. I’ve read here that Harpers Ferry is welcoming, but have you found other options that afford more land?

Iprank
Iprank
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

WV. Ditto for me. Eastern WV already feeling upward price pressures from Lagos and the imperial city. Don’t delay.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Multiple federal agencies have moved/enlarged training operations to Harper’s Ferry in the last decade or so. That brings a large cadre of people with decent stable incomes and may be part of what is driving prices up in that area.

Iprank
Iprank
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Found a nice little place, 8 acres, pond, woods $270k Mineral County, WV. My agent said same place Jefferson County, further east, around $400 – $450k.

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

You’ll have plenty of opportunity to redpill g-men in those two.

Martinsburg and everything east is to WVA as Missoula is to Montana, only more so.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Vegetius
3 years ago

Could you elaborate on that? I’m looking at both the far western portion of MT, as well as possibly somewhere down south, as I am behind enemy lines in the Northeast. As for “Z’s” column, I have mixed feelings. On the one hand I disagree that Clinton was a great president for white people. Take for example immigration and the browning of America. It was going on before he came to town, but it wasn’t that bad, but he kicked it into high gear. Just look at all the damage a woman named Doris Meisner did while she was in… Read more »

Johnny
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Zman I think West Virginia is your best bet of places not too far from where you are to redpill people.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

You’d be surprised the number of people living in those areas that commute to Northern Virginia for work – construction guys, teachers, IT workers, etc.

Route 9 on the Virginia side is getting widened to accommodate the traffic. The WV side of Route 9 is already as wide as the Autoban.

The Imperial Capital engulfs all.

Last edited 3 years ago by Citizen of a Silly Country
Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Zman, I found your place.

In the Poconos, 30 miles west of the Jersey line, on I-8O, south of Wilkes-Barre.

The towns of White Haven and Freeland- near Lake Harmony, to boot.

Or, follow the 50 from Pennsylvania’s Blue Ball, to Intercourse, to Climax, WV.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

I lived there for 15 years: Sciota.
The CIA’s Turkish man in waiting lives there .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fethullah_G%C3%BClen

Christian Attorney in Ohio
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

Shrute’s beet farm?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Harper’s Ferry has had convenient Amtrack to DC area for decades. Yet another example of government subsidy. In this case, it makes for a pleasant place to live and a leisurely commute for those who can afford it. Local housing prices are priced accordingly.

Rich
Member
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

NOVA influence.

miforest
Member
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

easten kentucky is still cheap

dong
dong
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Try Alaska… Only natures wildlife to deal with…

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Iprank
3 years ago

I ask for advice from the Wise Ones who comment here.

What do you think about a move from northern VA to Durham / Chapel Hill, NC?

Yes, they are both infested with lefties thanks to the presence of Duke and UNC. But the universities do offer cultural events if people ever decide to stop acting like muzzled kennel dogs. Besides, the area could hardly be more Blue than the Washington penumbra.

As I am getting on in years, I need access to top medical care, which is clearly available there.

What say you?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Gravity Denier
3 years ago

Seems you could get about the same thing in Lexington, KY without as much noxious and nauseating Leftism.

Based5.0
Based5.0
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

There’s a fair amount of obnoxious Leftism in Lexington (and a lot of homos) compared to the rest of KY, but it is probably better than the area around Duke and UNC. The jogger problem is tolerable in Lexington. My advice would be to live in any of the surrounding counties to avoid the POZ day to day, but still be close enough to the hospitals in Lexington.

Rich
Member
Reply to  Gravity Denier
3 years ago

I personally don’t see much point in that if you want to get away from lefties. Unless you just want out of VA, which I could currently understand. I lived in NOVA for 30 years.
You can get some university type culture in western VA but the med community may not be up to your standard. Countryside is beautiful though.
Sometimes big issues to consider (beyond red/blue, culture/art, med facilities) are proximity of family, climate, and geography. I assume you are retired.

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Gravity Denier
3 years ago

Thanks to everyone who replied. I appreciate your thoughts.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

“More time to prepare” is our side’s worst cope. We need to stop using it as an excuse.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

Again I ask, What’s your alternative?

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

People will never wake up unless jostled. Four more years of slumber accomplishes nothing for the 14 Words.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

I dont quite understand your reply Meme. We are going to get four more years of SOMETHING unless the world ends. Which alternative to you gives us the best outcome as Whites, a Trump victory or loss? Please explain.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

Trump winning means the left continues the mandatory facediapers, de facto ubi, and escalating the race war. All the white middle class will be remote working and their kids remote learning. The left is breaking our people’s codependency on atomistic urbanism to spite Orange Man: dont interrupt the enemy making a mistake. Every week the facediapering and urban race wars persists is thousands of white kids out of public schools and into homeschooling, thousands moving out of the city into areas we can meet and talk, and tens of thousands making the mental, moral leap into the river (even if… Read more »

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

totally agreed. a Trump win is 4 years of some action but big escalation at the very least. for example, people wail about only 300-500 miles of wall being built, well Biden-Kamala want to tear even those few miles down; whoever the Democrat-opposers are in 2024, they will have to favor the wall somehow, or else lose totally dozens of millions of votes.

either that, or official disenfranchisement/segregation/otherization of pro-whites and pro-Christians will eventually have to happen so the elites rule, and civil war can only result from that. think Hunger Games.

Last edited 3 years ago by diconez
Member
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

Yeah, couldn’t agree more. The Left has spent decades taking over the public schools, the workplace, the cities, the universities, even the churches, and they blew it all up in a 6 month tantrum over an election that probably wouldn’t have mattered much anyway. Let’s make sure they have plenty of ammo to keep blowing their limbs off with. It’s especially important to make sure the universities and public schools never recover from this. We need to provide alternatives to both that prepare young people for life in the real world as civilized human beings. Setting up our own accreditation… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

THIS is brilliant! exactly!

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

It’s a bit different than four years ago. I’m seeing people who I’d assumed were lost causes buying guns and creating contingency plans.

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Lanky
3 years ago

My larger social circle contains liberals that just bought guns, signed up for weapons training, and are buying land in rural areas.
They are not alone, in fact there has been a tidal wave of such actions in the NorthEast, and these were people who despised the NRA just 6 months ago.
Regardless of a Trump win, millions of whites have seen the rioting, anarchy, and big city disfunction and determined that buying guns and rural property is a necessary choice. I’m not exaggerating when I say millions of whites, either.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Dave
3 years ago

Ugh. Liberals moving to rural areas. I have enough trouble stomaching the one couple nearby that’s had a big hand-painted sign in their yard reading “Ain’t nobody free until everybody’s free” ever since George Floyd died of an overdose.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

Their “luciferian wisdom” tells them “we are all the same, why discriminate?” Their genes are saying “run to your people, that’s where you’ll be safe.”
Jews need to pay dearly for what they have done to minds of normies, something worse than death.

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Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Dave
3 years ago

Dave,

And when those liberal whites fill into smaller towns and rural areas we need to be wary. If they can be convinced to let go of their former convictions (and I have witnessed this happen) and made to embrace the more traditional values of rural white America.. then great. If they show up and demand “change” and try to reestablish what they fled (also have seen this) they must be met with scorn and righteous hatred.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

They think they’re civilizing the hicks. Even the conservatives, decent people, at least pine for more places to eat and shop.

In other words, good luck convincing born and raised consumers to give it up.

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Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Paintersforum,

I know exactly what you are talking about. Point out that the “educating” civilizers are condescending to the “rubes”.

The other problem is more difficult. Rural folks I’ve dealt with often have a mixed bemused/repulsed and fascinated/envious reaction to the city folk. I can only do my best to paint a picture of the wreckage that is coming for them once they surrender to that fascination.

I hear you, but we can never resign to giving up in any arena we can have some small effect.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

I know what you mean, I just don’t want to do it at the expense of my home and my way of life. I love farms and open space, building a fence without some zoning officer asking if I have a permit, shooting targets in the back field without the neighbor complaining, walking the property taking stock of the flora and fauna, etc. The fact is most of the relocators would be happier living an urban life. Even the burbs are a poor substitute I’d bet many would eschew in favor of cities if the cities weren’t destroyed. Of course… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Yes. Containing them to the cities they are in would be the best option. The number of good folks we would garner will probably be small in comparison to the “good” whites we will get.

I’m talking realpolitik here though. You can’t stop them with road blocks and suppressing fire so what do you do in the real wotld… right now? Encourage those that can be compatable and unwelcome mat the hell out of those that you can’t. We must live in reality and do what we can within that framework.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

I want to make the cities livable again so people go back, because that’s where they’d prefer to live. Yes, that’s crazy talk, but we’re living in times when impossible things are possible, and it’s not half as crazy as what tbtp are saying. Even if my home wasn’t threatened by flight from the cities I’d still want that, because there’s no society without cities. Even the Mongols had a capital. It wouldn’t surprise me if it’s all part of a scheme to take down America. Certainly looks that way. The opportunity is there, too, and it’ll probably only get… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Painterforum,

Racial self-awareness. Organize. Reclaim the hamlets. Expand. Survive. Retake or build cities. That’s when we get to have cities again IMHO.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Sounds good to me. End the retreat, that’s all I’m saying. Now is the time.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

They won’t. They’ll pull the same shit that they’ve done in every new place that they’ve moved into.

They run from blacks and then bitch at their White neighbors for being racists.

I’ve seen it with my own eyes multiple times. Hell, I live it every day.

Last edited 3 years ago by Citizen of a Silly Country
Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Citizen,

Yup. Most won’t convert but some do. Agreed. So shall we not try? Do what we can to convert those that can be converted. Dissuade those that can’t be? What do you suggest?

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Initially (and just had this dialog with a guy decamping Chi-town for where I am in SC) is advise them first and foremost to never say “that’s not the way we did it back in_______). Else they’ll get a painful kick to their nether regions.
From that point any deprogramming and potential redpilling can commence.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

Yes Stranger! Work with the clay at hand. Cast out the as bad potter’s clay what is soiled beyond use.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

We can try. But don’t give an inch. Let them know right up front how things are done in your area.

Believe me, don’t play nice with these people. They love getting involved in local govt and local school boards, and they push their agenda hard once in.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Agreed Citizen. And hearing the damnation from “one of their own” (another transplant, refugee, call it what you like) should help in multiple ways. The offender can’t blame the attack on the “stupid yokels here”. You’ll have mercilessly helped to stop the creeping poz. And you may even garner goodwill from the locals. Do what we can in every realistic action no matter how small.

I like your no prisoners approach.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

When they get smoked in local elections they cry about how unfair it is, make a scene, practically demand you let them rule you— and get smoked in the next election 🙂

The real dangers are the county seats and local sellouts. They open the back door.

Carrie
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

It’s also the weak-spined “country folk” who live in these “destinations” who allow this behaviour (especially by the women!) by not giving a firm “NO”… both in local politics, schooling, and heck, even parking.

Not saying “NO” immediately and swiftly is equal to condoning it.

It is the same in the classroom with children.

The psychology is not difficult.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

In that case they should be driven back into the arms of the Hutus.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Dave
3 years ago

We already have more liberal whites with guns than we need. Here in Colofornia we call them conservatives. And now I have to leave this beautiful state because the gaypedo governor and his nice liberal white hunting and fishing pussies run the now fully blue state from Denver. Oh and all those gun lovers love guns as long as the mags don’t hold more than 15 rounds and you dont want to order any “parts that may be used for an assault weapon”. So the civwar best be a short affair. If they are scared and now have muh guns,… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Dave
3 years ago

But are they now race realists? Or are they Californicators?

My Comment
Member
Reply to  Dave
3 years ago

Why do you care if liberals are buying guns? They will still vote for politicians who want to take away their guns. When they move to the smaller towns they will vote and work to turn them into the liberal dystopia of a big blue city.

We lost the cultural war. If you want to be viewed as a good, smart person you need to be a Democrat and in favor of vibrancy even if you don’t want it in your neighborhood.

Last edited 3 years ago by My_Comment
Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Lanky
3 years ago

Speaking of guns, something that needs to be considered is gun rights. A Democrat controlled Congress will at some point pass sweeping gun control legislation and a Democrat president would sign it into law. The USSC with five Democrat appointed justices will not overturn such a law. If there is any value in gun rights lasting longer, you want 1) a GOP President and Senate appointing justices; 2) a GOP majority or near majority in Congress that won’t pass gun control legislation; and 3) a Republican president who can veto gun control legislation. Whoever wishes for Biden or any other… Read more »

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RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Federalist
3 years ago

You seem to forget “Take the guns first. Due process later” Remind me who said that?

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

Trump says and does a lot of stupid shit. None of us are happy with Trump. But “look at the two outcomes in terms of how they would serve the interests of dissidents.” When your choices are Trump vs. Biden or Republicans vs. Democrats, the Trump/Republican option is better.
If a sweeping gun control bill comes across the President’s desk, who would you rather make that decision? Trump or Biden? Would you rather see the 2nd Amendment before a Supreme Court with Trump’s nominee who replaced Ginsburg or one with Biden’s nominee who replaced Thomas?

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  Federalist
3 years ago

Biden wins this country is over: the Left will finish crushing the middle class & turn us all into a bunch of serfs while instituting gun confiscation. They will “fix” it by making sure they never lose another presidential election (“the fix” was supposed to be in for HRC which is why – when she lost – they are so enraged 4yrs later. The “Black Jesus” was their watershed moment meaning eternal, perpetual rule.
Get out on Nov 3rd & vote like your life depends on it cuz it does.

Normie
Reply to  Boarwild
3 years ago

Go back to Breitbart Boomer…

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Backwoods Engineer
Backwoods Engineer
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

So, I guess those mocking “more time to prepare” already have moved to the country, have warehouses full of food, stacks of guns and ammo, excellent off-grid comms, lots of animals and gardens, have taken small-unit militia training, and have organized their area of operations?

If not, YOU NEED MORE TIME.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Backwoods Engineer
3 years ago

Ding ding ding we have a winner…My experience has been those who want to burn it all down are the least ones to be able to survive it…I’ve also found its always the single guys that advocate for that and the ones that are married with kids to be advocating to be preparing and building…

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

You could say the same about every soldier fresh out of boot camp: green, eager for action, eager to prove himself. Probably young and single, too.

Those guys are an asset if focused towards an objective.

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Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Backwoods Engineer
3 years ago

I wrote TL;DR deserving reply but the internet ate it. Dimestore version: if the cultural war in the US is really lost think of eastern europe not west virginia. We talk about South Africa and Rhodesia but look what really happens there. There are murders but total extermination isn’t realistic… easier for conquerors just to make you unhappy till you leave for somewhere more amenable. In a pinch everyone realizes living with their distant cousins (aka: coethnics in a different country) is probably better than being a very visible member of a hated minority. SHTF would really be an international… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by Anonymousse
Member
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

This is an often ignored aspect of all this stuff. Every civil war is an international war to some extent. People have largely forgotten that the Confederacy initially had hopes that Britain and France would join it. Had this happened the North would have been crushed. To paraphrase the guy in the movie Looper – I’m from the future, learn Russian.

Member
Reply to  Backwoods Engineer
3 years ago

I’ll be the first to say it. I’m not ready. I’ve got a few guns and am trying to get more ammo as supplies and finances allow. I’m only just starting to get back in shape. I don’t have enough food and water for more than a few days. I don’t trust my neighbors at all. Most are white cucks and Pajeets. So I have some self-interest here.

Durendal
Durendal
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

Preparing by forming white coalitions and forming white groups

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

Trying to awaken more whites and hope that it takes.

Backwoods Engineer
Backwoods Engineer
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

This. Takes. Time.
Some of us have already begun.
But many more white will become aware when the post-election violence comes to their door. We already have millions of new white gun owners, who NOW get it based on what happened in Portland, Minneapolis, Chicago, NY, etc.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

Great. What action should I take? What action are you taking?

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

he talks about it online

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

You are projecting.

Normie
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

didn’t answer the question… what are you doing?

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Normie
3 years ago

I did answer the question elsewhere. Not going to repeat myself.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

Join the local GOP. Go to church. Join local clubs. Go have dinner with your aligned neighbors. Everyone talks about politics all the time these days: make friends and influence people. Study and practice good rhetoric, be convincing, and win some hearts and minds. Encourage your male aquaintences new and old to buy and use guns, and your female aquaintences to buy and use sewing machines.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

Pay off the debt, dump the junk.

As few chains as possible, no matter where you are.

Can’t move a mess fast.

Make your checklist, get started today, now- pretend you’re getting ready to move and make this your hobby.

As to the debt, big numbers will break your heart and mind- so break them down into bite-sized weekly paychecks. Now you know how many weeks you’ll be in jail, and the season when you buy your freedom.

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Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

Alzaebo,

Best real world comment of the day.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

I moved to a saner place to be with people like me. I am creating networks of connections and have been doing that for a long time. I am building and diversifying my wealth to have at least some security in case there is an attempt to unperson me.

I have seen people talking about “needing” more time for decades. It’s stupid. You already had a lot of time. Stop making excuses!

Normie
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

wow! Impressive..

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

People have been saying it for years, but recent events have shown many people that this is probably not a drill. I’m out after November first, but I’d like four more years of a white president so I can *really* head into the sticks.

Toasty
Reply to  Lanky
3 years ago

Your strategy is what will lead to our annhilation.

cede academia…cede the media… cede control of the corporations. Now you are going to hide away in the country where the left will be able to target and destroy.

Most of you on this thread are cowards who know only retreat and surrender, and never learn from the failure of all your previous retreats. This retreat will be the final one, then you cowards will be wanting to expatriate next.

After this shameful thread, I’m even more convinced the security blanket must be ripped off as fast as possible

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Toasty
3 years ago

So, what’s your master plan?

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Toasty
3 years ago

“cede academia…cede the media… cede control of the corporations”

[two paragraphs later]

”I’m even more convinced the security blanket must be ripped off as fast as possible”

Cowards want to cede all these important areas. So let’s bravely cede the entire political system too!

I’m still waiting for one of these accelerationist “plans” that doesn’t include this sequence

Step 1) Realize everything is bad
Step 2) Become galaxy brained

Step n-2 ) Purposely make everything worse
Step n-1 ) ?
Step n ) Everything gets better!

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  Toasty
3 years ago

Cowards say shit like that and hide behind a lame ass name like toasty. Go back to suckin dick at the bus station, your full time job.

Backwoods Engineer
Backwoods Engineer
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

Not everybody has big money to get prepared right now. Not everybody can sell their house in the pozz zones right this second. We need time.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Backwoods Engineer
3 years ago

Backwoods,

Mostly right. Need, no. Want, yes. Helpful, more so.

Every day some little action. A new skill. A debt paid off in part. A decent friendship made or nurtured. A little piece of wisdom garnered. A plan worked on.

The practice of constantly doing is it’s own skill that fosters readiness.

Last edited 3 years ago by Penitent Man
Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

Moving takes time. Getting Our People out without destroying their lives and careers takes years, not months.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

Hun, “The time will never be right” but it may be better for the individual with a steady hand at improving and preparing. Personally I am more prepared to weather a storm than last year and more so each successive year. Don’t discourage Our People from the ever increasing task of hardening their hearts and abilities, please. You are correct in your statement, but unless you believe the great watershed moment is this very hour (Deus vult) then every hour we spend preparing adds to the armory of the whole as individuals. I agree, en masse action would be preferable… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by Penitent Man
diconez
diconez
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

thing is, people can’t agree on what they think they need, whether now or in the future. specially whites, specially democratic/north sea whites. for example, i think America has needed a nationalist party since TR more or less, to replace the GOP. but 80-100 million whites still preferred to vote GOP last election, and several other millions for the Dems that hate whites even more. so either most people are okay with all this, or they think they aren’t but they legit haven’t got prepared – perhaps because of time or lack of money or will, but it happens. most… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Me too.

Good luck finding any .223 or 9mm. Even 7.62×51 is hard to find, and damned expensive. That stuff is gone, gone, gone. 2-4 month backorders, if you can even find a place that will take your order.

Much worse than post 9/11. The sheeple are terrified, and gunning up.

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nick110
nick110
3 years ago

Winning breeds winning. Look at how hard our enemies fight for every issue, no matter how small or frivolous. Look at how quickly our side argues that “this is not the hill to die on.”
True, we won’t vote our way out of this, but the vote is one tool. Why dismiss it when the enemy takes it so seriously.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  nick110
3 years ago

Well said

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  nick110
3 years ago

Does winning breed winning? What did Reagan’s victories do for Today’s 25 year old white guy who was born after Reagan left office?

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

What will Trump’s “victories” have accomplished for today’s White first graders, by the time they turn 25?

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

more than you ever will

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

If nothing else, his election showed what’s possible.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

Trump winning will set off Progressive Whites and their POC pets. It’ll be a never-ending spew about racism and White privilege. This will do more to convince normies that they have no place in a future America run by these people.

We need numbers to help that future 25-year-old. Trump winning will do more for that than Biden winning. If Biden wins, the Dems will want to tone down the rhetoric because they’re in charge.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

This is where I am. Americans endured the freaking Covid over-reaction but only responded to the riots because the threat of violence was more apparent.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

Again, I ask you Meme… what do you do, make, advise or try at to implement anything in this struggle?

Does defeatism and hopelessness strike your soul as a virtue?

I was growing frustrated with you Brother, now I am simply reaching a level of deep pity.

Not trying to pick on you, I have always kind of been partial to those odd fish that swim against the school… but at least they are swimming in a direction. You seem content to float belly up on the surface and emit little waves of despair.

I dont get you.

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  nick110
3 years ago

This is not the hill to die on – and then one day there are no other hills other than the one upon which you find yourslef – then you have no choice as to which hill to die on.
Agreed we won’t vote ourselves out of this, but winning an election might at least allow for a few more hills from which to choose.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

According to some, cooperating with the globo-leftists & letting them win elections is better for the white race.
This reminds me of someone

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BTP
Member
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

Agree. Biden might immediately begin a gun confiscation, or some similar madness, and then you immediately find yourself on that last hill.

Rich
Member
Reply to  BTP
3 years ago
DLS
DLS
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

Agreed. I have never been a fan of the “win by losing” approach. Try to win every battle everywhere everytime.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

Problem with conservatives is they think that winning the election is winning the war when in actuality it is just one small battle…

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  nick110
3 years ago

More offense less defense in the culture war. Time to stop acting like losers. Momentum is shifting decisively. Heck I’m even seeing it locally.

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
3 years ago

Years ago I met a doctor who worked at an inpatient clinic for poorer/indigent/public psych ward cases. He said if he wasn’t sure whether or not someone would be dangerous to the staff (a lot of them female and slight) he would interview the crazy individual with a couple of big orderlies present, and see if the guy was goadable (sic) or had a short fuse, the thinking being, “If he’ll lunge for me when I ask about his mother with two big goons present, he’ll definitely give some petite nurse the bum’s rush.” That’s basically why I’m voting for… Read more »

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
Reply to  Raymond R
3 years ago

I knew that was coming.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

Made. My. Day!

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
3 years ago

The fact is, Trump winning would give us more riots and mayhem, so the white awakening would probably accelerate. The fact is, more white people have become racially aware in the last three months than in the last three years, despite Trump’s groveling. There are much larger forces at work than one election, so the outcome is just one small data point. This is exactly correct. If Trump wins, the Left will not recognize the results (again), and the fraudulent American political system will be put on full display again. A few more White people will wake up. The riots… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

The fact is, more white people have become racially aware in the last three months than in the last three years

A strong argument can be made Whites have become more racially aware than in the last three decades. But it is possible with a Stacy Abrams SoS and Corey Booker AG, the awareness would accelerate just as much, if not more.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

I strongly doubt it. Look how many voted to re-elect Obama. The Abrams know they have to be incremental while they are in power.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Abrams is a diaper wearing retard. she doesn’t “know” anything.

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DLS
DLS
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

That’s more of a technical point. Her handlers and financiers know it.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

Yes, exactly.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

Rhodesians got super racially awake under Mugabe… how did that turn out?

Carrie
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

Actually: Anonymousse:
There’s an update to that story: Mugabe is six feet under.
His successor has put out the call asking desperately for yt farmers to return to the former Rhodesia, because Zimbabweans are now all starving, literally.
They don’t’ know how to farm their own food.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

disagree. 90% chance the riots stop before the elections and don’t start again.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

I disagree totally. Between now and November 3 things will get even uglier. They won’t be widely televised, of course, but in the effected cities what is happening will be known.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

Nonsense. You don’t turn these sorts of things off like a water hose.

Rich
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

I agree. A Trump win will have every lefties hair on fire and firecrackers up their arse. If you think they are insane now, just wait. That horror show could bring a great awakening for those with any guts.

Guest
Guest
3 years ago

Coastal blue states are already threatening to secede if Trump wins. This is reason enough to vote for Trump. It’s unlikely any states will proceed beyond political theater, but it’s important to discuss these ideas with normies. The US will be just fine without the blue states, and the world will be just fine with out the US if the country dissolves into multiple separate nations. As a bonus we will get another four years of violent protests in the blue cities in blue states, like Portland, Minneapolis, and Seattle. I love watching those cities burn and listening to the… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Guest
3 years ago

I have liberal family and friends in Seattle and Portland. I love them but they fVcking deserve everything they are getting.

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

I live in a retirement community. Everyone is from somewhere else. One woman is from Portland. She’s a leftie. For the first month, she pretended not to know what was going on there. Then about a week ago she said she’d asked her friends and they said far-right wing groups were attacking people downtown.

Dave
Dave
Reply to  The Right Doctor
3 years ago

Her next question should have been, why are the mayor and police not cracking down on these “far-right wing groups”?
I’ve long said that liberal mayors can shut the riots down any time they want by labeling the instigators “white supremacists” and ordering the police to club them like baby seals.

whitney
Member
3 years ago

It’s a really hard choice because it is all going downhill and fast. If Trump’s elected then the cities burn, if Bidens elected they’re definitely coming for the guns. It looks to me like everything’s going hot in the next 6 months no matter what happens

Here’s another under-reported story. A derecho (??) made its way through the Midwest destroying 1/3 of the crops. I believe 600,000 people are still without power 4 days later. Seems like that could be significant coming up here

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Arguing to vote against Trump because ‘otherwise cities will burn’ sticks in my craw.
a. I don’t like threats or intimidation and if somebody wants to get stupid about it, I am prepared to fight.
b. It will be the shitlib cities burning… and I am just peachy with that.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

I’m totally cool with the city’s burning. Let’s get the show on the road

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

I agree. The more cities burn the more join our team. Let them all burn as long as Trump has the power to refuse fed money to rebuild I’m all for it.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Actually, the shitlib cities burning is one of the worst things for us. One of the major factors turning TX blue is the influx of people from California escaping the consequences of their voting. But shitlibs are stupid and vote for the same exact stuff in their new locale. The shitlibs fleeing NYC are bringing their progressive Jewish politics to wherever they move and they are allowed to not only vote, but to lobby in the place they moved to last week. Bottom line is burning cities brings progressives to formerly normal white areas. It’s like having a college open… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Tars Yup. Agreed. I’ve seen both conversions as well as leftie agitators show up. We can’t do anything about the cities burning and the resultant exodus that creates… but we can effect the welcome/unwelcome aspect in Our small communities. I had to go through a stress test as I’ve transitioned to become part of a smaller more traditional part of America. Beating and surpassing the stereotyped expectations of the locals in regards to coming from a liberal state was easy (with one exception). I’ve felt nothing but welcome since, though I imagine it would not be so welcoming of I’d… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Now imagine what your reception would be like if you tried to move with them cracking down on any Dissidents…That’s why I say get moved now before we start taking fire…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

Lineman,

Agreed Brother. That’s why I’ve not been posting of late. Busy with plans, implementations, and getting the wheel moving faster. Managed to carve out some much needed mental/spiritual rest and a small part in a charity mission that focuses on Our People. The timeline for my personal arrangements has grown shorter and I’m further along. Have met the point where I can do it now but every day adds to my larder. I am ready but my readiness grows more robust by the day.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

The analogy of metastasizing cancer is the first thing that comes to mind.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Only downside to the cites burning is that white flight comes with it’s own onus of “good” whites taking their poison with them to rural small town America. The challenge is when they show up to demand their conversion or make them unwelcome. Otherwise, I’m fine with the hives burning themselves down.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

it’s only dem cities burning. important point to keep in mind.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

Karl,

Are there any cities that aren’t Dem at this point? Just curious. I’m of the belief that we dont have or get to have any cities.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Defund the police!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Absolutely. Burn, baby, burn. And if they secede after they burn, all the better.

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

…roughly 4 of every 10 acres of corn and soybeans in Iowa were impacted by a fast-moving, intense windstorm, said Gov. Kim Reynolds on Tuesday. Radio Iowa quoted the governor as saying the estimate of 10 million acres affected And yet today: …farmers are looking at their largest corn crop ever and a near-record soybean harvest, with huge stockpiles of both crops persisting into fall 2021, said the USDA on Wednesday. Some 2.8 billion bushels of corn — a nearly 10-week supply — would remain in the bin when next year’s crop is mature, the largest carry-over since the Reagan era. There’s something… Read more »

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MBlanc46
MBlanc46
3 years ago

A Biden win will mean not only an orgy of globalism, it will mean an orgy of revenge against the recalcitrants, i.e., us. In addition, this is almost certainly the last presidential (and probably congressional) election that we have a chance of winning. It would be nice to win it.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

Even if future is set in stone & Trump reelection changes nothing, it’s good to vote for Trump just to spite those who plan against the white race.

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Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

I agree they see him as Hitler so to fuvk with them again I will vote for Trump…

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

The trick here is that voting for Trump is fine. But unless you get a hundred more people to vote for the guy, rather than the addled dementia patient, or not voting at all, you aren’t making too much of a difference here. Also, while I’m all for voting for Trump, he is not the guy who will lead us to a better place. He is the guy who will throw sand in the gears for the next few years (but there is real value in that). People substitute voting for doing more than that, and we can’t fall into… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

Yep that’s all he gives us Brother is time to do what is necessary to survive and thrive…

DLS
DLS
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

Yes and no. There will always be a right and left, but the field will just keep shifting further left on the spectrum. The fact that we have to fight for a right that is so far left is dispiriting.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
3 years ago

The last two nights I’ve waited to see if Tucker would report on 5 year old Cannon Hinnant, using the obvious points about hypocrisy from the mainstream media and their attacks on Whites. He did not, and that says a lot about who Tucker truly is. He just won’t cross that line. Of course Trump and the GOP are silent as well. They don’t want to do anything that might damage getting the black vote they’re delusionally courting.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Yes. That’s likely been the case a long time.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Tucker is also screwing around on his wife, so he has that hanging over his head. Honestly, don’t expect a lot of courage out of a guy with big hair and a bow tie.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

With who? Link? Source? I haven’t heard anything about this at all.

nick110
nick110
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Tucker has a good gig at Fox and knows all about getting fired. Cf. CNN. Better some Tucker than no Tucker.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  nick110
3 years ago

Agreed. All skepticism of Tucker is warranted, but he does allow information to reach people who otherwise would not know about it. That’s why there is such an effort to oust him.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Who isn’t in the media world???

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

That boy’s murder screams for righteous retribution and as for our right wing mouth organs, speaking out and demanding the left be held accountable.

whitney
Member
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Agreed. It cries out to heaven for vengeance and the silence on Earth is unconscionable

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Perhaps small stickers with the poor lad’s name on them and the word “Remember” posted everywhere would be a starting place for those that want to strike a blow?

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

Matt Walsh has been all over it. His transformation has been shocking and I am surprised Ben Shapiro has allowed it. Walsh went from making excuses for Ahmaud Arbery walking through homes under construction to calling out anti-white racism in the media since the George Floyd riots. I don’t want to give him too much credit, but there was a profound shift here. They obviously got a sign their audience was going to abandon them if Walsh kept up the good white shtick.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

I’ve also noticed there’s been a big shift with Walsh. I like to think the contentious event he had with the Groypers had something to do with that, but who knows?

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

Strong stuff on Shapiro’s site.

https://t.co/BPXcPU4mqi?amp=1

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

A friend just told me Rush Limbaugh’s guest host yesterday was talking about Cannon Hinnant throughout the broadcast. This story is spreading. On twitter it’s trending and looks like it’s growing. How long can Tucker, Hannity, et al stay silent?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

Carlson just broke the embargo.

David Wright
Member
3 years ago

Okay so I am voting again for Trump.
Now what do I do to effect the rule of kritarchs and oligarchs?
Everything is a rule by our governor’s edicts which we all know is not law and in a normal America wouldn’t hold up.

Insurrections by every individual is what we need but I fear we ain’t got it in us. Still an interregnum is preferable to the increased madness that is coming.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

“Everything is a rule by our governor’s edicts which we all know is not law and in a normal America wouldn’t hold up.” That’s true enough, but there’s plenty of wisdom in being slow to anger and letting things play out. State governor’s are using their tyrannical powers foolishly, but it doesn’t follow that we should start a shooting war. There is a lot of tactical brilliance on letting them own their record over the next few years and then voting them out. Right now, most people are focused on the virus, but by the end of the year will… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Whites will have to be forced to act in their own interests. They will not do so on their own. Violence against them will leave Whites no other choice than to act in their own interests. We see that now with Whites fleeing the cities in the wake of their ethnic cleansing..

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

I kind of agree. I’m looking for that one “incident”: the Boston Massacre, the sinking of the Lusitania, the assassination of the Archduke. I figure if joggers can blow the brains out of a 5 year old white kid in broad daylight we now have a real problem. When commies and their Nazi jogger comrades burn Ronald McDonald House with dying children and their families inside we really have a problem. Yet I seem to think so small screw up will ignite the whole thing. At least I hope so because with the enemy of white people controlling education, media… Read more »

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Name
Name
Reply to  Hoagie
3 years ago

Don’t stop… believing. Hold onto that feeeeeling

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Name
3 years ago

Name,

Go easy on Hoagie. I’ve watched him change slowly over his posts and move away from civ-nattery. That’s a hard thing for an older person to do. I’m not nearly his age and it’s been a slog coming across the great divide.

And yes, a single event can start an avalanche.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

I was raised and conditioned in the shitlib culture. Redpilling was a many-years long process. There was certainly a cumulative aspect to it, with many small events and several bigger ones. I call them ‘redpill moments’. I expect that everyone has that one event that pushes them over the line, but I doubt there is anyone who does who is not prepared beforehand with a sequence of redpill moments, each making them successively more susceptible to awakening. Trump is a redpill moment generator, a resonance frequency for exciting insanity among the multicultural imperialists. He slowed down the dissolution but failed… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Horace
3 years ago

Agreed. There needs to, and will be, a great accounting.

We will not always suffer the witch to live.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Hoagie
3 years ago

Again, these riots have been an inadvertent godsend. But, yes, there will be a spark.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Hoagie
3 years ago

It will all depend on whites waking up to that that the law no longer works and if you want justice then you have to be in a Community that you have the power to administer it…White people still believe that there is law and order and once the are disabused of that notion then change will happen…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

The violence against (bad) whites is there in spades but the choke point is the propagandist media blocking that information to whites. How to break through that leftist media blockade is the question.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Winning does breed confidence, and so does your enemy showing impotence. People are more willing to stick out their necks if they realize their enemy is a paper tiger. Our academic institutions are running around screaming because of a virus that poses essentially no danger to youth. The media, study after study shows, are becoming bubbles that just talk to themselves. The CIA has launched a laughable attempt at regime change in Belarus that no one is falling for. How many times are people going to roll their eyes before they tune out entirely and seek alternatives? This is going… Read more »

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

The problem is that as the Empire weakens and fails with such asinine outrages as the Color Revolution in Belarus, it will internalize its evil and oppression and direct the venom internally. It is very necessary to ostracize any White who joins the military or participates in this police state as an employee.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Bad idea Jack: Antagonize the people that have the guns, and more importantly, societal authority to so you harm. Better idea: Isolate (non-violently) those among them that participate in activities that target Your People. I suggest the book “The Squad” for your consideration.

Calculating deftness beats ham-fisted rhetoric most of the time. We must be wise.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

The Michael Collins book? Thanks for the recommendation but I don’t see it as analogous as both the IRA and British Army were uniformly of their own people. Have you or someone close to you been in the military or served in government is the last ten years? They both have been so pozzed for so long they are basically no different that public schools, and just like them are near a tipping point of vibrant-dominated.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Jack, Quite a few in the military and law enforcement and the majority aren’t pozzed in my observations. Nothing statistical, just obs. Yes, The Squad. Not in dealing with the Brits. How Collins managed the ethnic Irish police forces, particularly the Dublin Constabulary. Examples were made of police that were working hand in hand with the British. Those police that kept out of the political enforcement were protected and many became integral to the effort as informers. Collins encouraged them to deal with street crime and regular criminal activity. It came to the point where he could bicycle through a… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Quite a few in the military and law enforcement and the majority aren’t pozzed in my observations. 

Has this been recently? My observation of late is quite the opposite. Even NCO’s, always the backbone of the military, are cashing out if they haven’t already. Cops worth a damn are taking early retirement. What remains, at least from recent experience, is not on our side for the most part. I frankly have not seen what you have if your observation was recent.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Some recent and certainly anecdotal. More in the last 15 years and, now that you mention it quite a few that have retired or separated from service though those didnt cite the poz as the reason specifically. (They did gripe about it though). Dunno, you may be on to something. Still, most of them are patriotic (if misguided) kids and not commissars. Isolate them with no outreach and you give up assets unnecessarily IMO.

eudaimonia
eudaimonia
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

You think the British are analagous to the Western elite?

If the British had wanted to wipe the Irish out what would the Irish have done about it?
The present situation involves an elite that boasts about exterminating entire nations.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  eudaimonia
3 years ago

Eudaimonia. I’m no expert by any stretch on the Irish struggle. There are others here that are, but nothing exists in a vacuum. Optics are important. Reality is yes, the UK could have crushed the Irish. Hell, they could have holocausted them easily after the Great War and the troops returned. In reality there actions were feeble compared to what their capabilities were. Dont forget a large number of the British to include British civil administrators became supportive if Irish independence and the eyes of America on the situation probably did more to stay the wrathful hand of the English… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

I agree with PM that we need to be drawing in those people with the building of Communities…

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Agree. These people are the enemy.
We need to know who they are locally. Where they live. Families etc.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
3 years ago

I think a Trump win is marginally better for Whites. Unfortunately, my state is a lock for Biden. But we are way past voting our way out of this.

Valley Lurker
3 years ago

The fact is, more white people have become racially aware in the last three months than in the last three years

This is definitely happening, and it goes back more than three months for me. I finally wound up here prior to St George of the Joggers because I was (in hindsight, naively) shocked at the anti-white sentiment of those who were vocally irate against reopening protests. The good whites and their pets of all colors came for me and those I know simply because I want to continue to be able to go into my office.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Valley Lurker
3 years ago

There is nothing like violence or its imminent threat to focus the mind.

Frip
Member
3 years ago

Zman: “On the other hand, when the Left wins, they tend to make good use of their opportunity, so Biden winning means they will move the state in their direction. The most likely outcome of a Biden term in office is an orgy of globalism.”

Yeah, exactly, and that’s not good. A lot of bad things can be codified into law in 8 years of Prog rule. So we vote Trump. That’s not an opinion that’s an order. Frip Directive #9.

No one is smart enough to untangle future scenarios. So act on what we know–Lefty bad. Lefty very bad.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Frip
3 years ago

Yes. Winning by losing is only apparent in hindsight, and should never be attempted in the present.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Frip
3 years ago

He hath revealed unto us the sacred songs, the Tablets of Heavy Metal.

Harken thee to Frip Directive #9!

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Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
3 years ago

Under which regime will talk of reparations increase? Reparations, like the “re-distributing your 401k-type,” should be one of the most effective ways to rouse normie-boomers out of their slumber.

Member
3 years ago

From the outside (Great White North) looking in, the USA is in for a rough time whoever wins in November. A Biden/Harris will effectively mean that rule by sociopaths will be entrenched. They will use racial division to further their ends no matter how much damage it does.
Right now, most Canadians are in favour of keeping our border with the USA closed till the end of the year, it might end up being for more than just Winnie the Flu.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Raymond R
3 years ago

Canadians would be well-advised to permanently seal the border with the United States.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

A guy from the Yukon told me, “sure we have nukes…and they’re all on the border, pointed at you.”

(Mentioning that, I suddenly suspect Canada’s enrichment. A puppet’s finger on their button…!?!)

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

That’s probably the best thing Canada could do with its nukes.

Canada is like a quiet, law-abiding, engineer living in an apartment above the neighborhood meth king.

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

They don’t have nukes. They’ve always depended on the US for their protection.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  The Right Doctor
3 years ago

From whom?

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

Mexicans. As far as I know, we keep them all here.

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Raymond R
3 years ago

Kudos for a new (to me) description of the current Menace to Society.

WOPR
WOPR
3 years ago

Trump is probably better because as stated, winning means something. Even with all of Trump’s faults, there have been small wins. Next, I don’t think the Left can correct like they did with Clinton. So, that means more racial politics and rioting. That will separate more liberal whites from the Left. We don’t need to accept them into the fold. Leaving them out in the cold is enough. The next time someone goes prattling on about how looking at race is bad, ask them how they are going to win then? The Left wins with it. What are they going… Read more »

TomA
TomA
3 years ago

History teaches that when a large polity collapses (usually when a majority of it’s people decay from productive to parasitic), pandemic bloodshed becomes the ensuring reality. And when that happens, evolution teaches that typically the strong/intelligent survive and the weak/stupid perish. UNLESS, a tyranny arises to fuck this up. And if you think jackboots can’t happen here, look to Melbourne AUS as a harbinger.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

I’ve spent a lot of time in Melbourne. Think a slightly more Marxist Portland. What has happened there has not surprised me in the least.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

I have slowly learned coming over to the dissident side that things are not always clear. Normal conservative thinking is Trump would have made life easier for conservatives and dissidents. He did not.
But we have no assurance Kamala and Biden will create a better environment that might basically leave us alone.
We have probably reached a point where we will no longer be kinda left alone no matter whom is in charge of the executive branch.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

I know are some who call Trump the God-Emperor, but really he is just a man, with limited powers to boot. He is limited in what he can control, and that means that some of the problems of his term were simply the consequences of decisions made well before he was in power. The seeds of destruction were planted years ago and many simply coincide with Trump’s term.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
3 years ago

Whenever you are describing that smug look of a libertarian double-crossing the right, Richard Spencer’s face comes to mind. When he speaks, I have that same reaction. He has always rubbed me the wrong way in the same way libertarians rub you the wrong way, like some stupid smug little jerk who just stole orphan’s money out of the collection plate.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

In addition to the kook factor, the texts between Spencer and Kline “proving” Kessler had a Jewish grandmother are just stupid. You don’t have the same last name as your grandmother’s maiden name. It is possible his grandmother was only 43 years old when he was born, but it isn’t likely. Since this woman was dead, why didn’t they spend two minutes looking for her obit to see if his name was in it? How did Spencer get into Duke?

Frip
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

You see him as a naughty boy. I see him as a freaking creepo. This is a guy who vomited all over Taki’s guest bathroom. Didn’t clean it up. And didn’t tell him about it.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Frip
3 years ago

No, that’s pretty much how I see him too. Spencer ruins everything he touches by being a total screwup who is also a narcissist. Being a screw-up while also being a narcissist is a particularly repugnant combination. He sees himself as a natural elite and a member of a natural aristocracy. Kessler turned out to be probably the most decent person involved in UTR, while Spencer turnout to be one of the worst. Spencer got every one of NPI’s donors doxed. I’d be willing to forgive such a thing, but then, after the doxer appologized, Spencer said he was considering… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Great. Of course the black BLM guy I was talking with brought up Charlottesville. He insisted that he’d seen videos of James Fields tearing through the crowd at 70 mph.

Thanks, Spencer!

Never again. That was stupid of me to let myself get baited.

As 3g4me says, my only standard is, “will this benefit white people?”

Go grey, go silent and solo.

Give them nothing.

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Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

I appreciate that everyone here is far too mature to point out that he also sounds like a complete [homosexual]. As if more was needed Spencer’s little “heil Trump” with the ol’ bellamy for the media cameras was up there among things that necessitated Trump eventually disavowing the old “alt right”. Optics on the whole LARP started off bad and had just gotten more embarrassing. Associating both NSDAP imagery and awful haircuts with any politician isn’t quite the way to endear them to you. It’s sort of forgotten now but Trump had gone in pretty hard with the “good people… Read more »

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Carrie
Reply to  Frip
3 years ago

re: bathroom barfing story:

I am not familiar with who or what you are describing, but it sounds very interesting, if nothing else on an anecdotal level.

Could you elaborate on the cast of characters, or share a link?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Spencer is a narcissist and a poseur. He would be perfectly fine with being in the public eye as an avowed Marxist. The DR should have spotted him a mile away. While it would not surprise me if he were a compromised DOJ plant, the greatest likelihood is he is exactly what you see: a self-centered child.

bubba
bubba
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

And yet, he puts his name to his opinions.

Are you?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  bubba
3 years ago

Right, “bubba.”

Frip
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

LOL. There’s a Brando movie called The Chase. He keeps calling this guy “bubber”. I always figured it’s because Brando couldn’t say Bubba right in a Southern accent. I recently found out the Robert Redford character really is named Bubber.

Maus
Maus
Reply to  bubba
3 years ago

Irony: Person using a generic label for a redneck bitchslapping a user with an actual name (formally, even if a psuedonym) by criticising real talk about a mediocrity because that mediocrity has the “courage” to use his real name. What narcissist wouldn’t?

Meta irony: Observed by a user with the label of a small, grey, insignificant animal. Let the doom continue to unfold.

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Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  Maus
3 years ago

Maus said: ” …Observed by a user with the label of a small, grey, insignificant animal. Let the doom continue to unfold.”

Don’t tell the mouse hear you say that. He’s a billionaire, with friends in high places.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  bubba
3 years ago

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H I
H I
3 years ago

The symbolism is the most important aspect. That’s why the SJWs were wailing, and hopefully will wail again. And there are worldwide effects to this. Trump was helped by Brexit. Now even Macron talks about the examples that Hungary and Russia set, and that the leadership class of the West must learn from them to defend Western Civilization.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  H I
3 years ago

Exactly, there’s a subtle connection between Trump becoming president & other european nationalistic movements.
Trump winning second term(symbolic win over globalists) will embolden various worldwide white nationalists even more.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

There certainly has been a not-so-subtle connection between nationalists, real and perceived, being elected and Globohomo dropping the mask and cracking down.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

In frickin’ spades, you betcha.
The mask is coming off, and I’ll take help anywhere I can get it.

As said above, every win, every where, every time.

Basil Ransom
Basil Ransom
3 years ago

Spot on, Mr. Zman. I’ve never voted. Many disagree with me and there’s people who have salient points on why I’m wrong in doing my democratic duty but they can’t shake me from my Tolstoy-ian view that we’re all just bits of flotsam and jetsam bobbing along in the tide and a vote for or against this corrupt system doesn’t matter one iota. What matters are the ideas that cause the regimes to topple. The printing press utterly destroyed the powers that be of the time who had been hanging on since the Middle Ages. The internet is going to… Read more »

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Basil Ransom
3 years ago

Tolstoy was a literal and figurative [homosexual]. Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn were /our literary titans/

Their emphasis on the need for national and individual spiritual struggle is what we need. Plus they were very up on the JQ.

Bilejones
Member
3 years ago
DLS
DLS
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

That is hilarious. The fans boo the players for “taking a stand”, so the players boo the fans for taking a stand.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

Heh. And the players don’t get it at all.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

And people who paid to watch them aren’t quite getting it either.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

New banner: “Keep giving them your money, fans!”

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

It’s a fairly simple simple IQ test.
I think the one standard deviation down meme may be flattering them.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
3 years ago

A Trump win means four more years of the Breitbart set blathering about DR3 and thinking they’re invincible. A loss would be their Stalingrad.

Perhaps the light bulb goes on for a few of them? Perhaps money begins flowing our way as a result?

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

They will cuck harder because if Biden wins the violence against Whites tamps down and returns to a slow boil. The compliance with masks and lock downs brought this home to me. The only reason to vote, and for Trump, is the State will become even more violent against Whites and force them to act in their own interests.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Or, perhaps, emboldened by having seen off the Bad Orange Man, the violence against whites and white institutions increases.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

If I thought that would happen, I wouldn’t vote. But the pattern has been constant: let us slowly kill you, and we will not step it up.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Wrong. President Harris is non White. Like Tim Scott it’s back to blood. President Harris that clapped out old whore will back the AOC wing to kill the Boer. Whites are the Boer.
there is a massive civil war in the form party. Blm etc want a final solution to Whitey. The old corrupt whites like Pelosi want more graft. Who is the strong horse?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Whiskey
3 years ago

Harris makes a point to suck up to Whites and her career has been doing just that. She is a chameleon, and if she is told to tamp it down, and she will be told to tamp it down, she will tamp it down. The slow things such as AFFH are the most insidious. Given a choice between pozzed urbanites fleeing to your town or violent vibrants being brought their via AFFH and as refugees, which is better in the long run? There eventually will be a crackdown on Boers, and it could be as early as this autumn if… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

You assume the violence is tampable. I don’t believe it is.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

I didn’t mean to convey that because I think violence is inevitable.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

I disagree that a Biden win tamps down violence against whites. On the contrary, such an outcome will only embolden Burn, Loot, Murder and ANTIFAG.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

The controllable part will be tamped down, and much is orchestrated, if Biden wins. But the uncontrollable will continue. Also, the intention is to unleash mass violence on Whites once the Left is secure enough to do it. They have to get into place, and lull Whites to sleep before they attempt genocide.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

and they matter why?

sentry
sentry
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

A Trump win means 4 more years where pedophiles like Epstein/Maxwell have to watch their backs. Would Epstein get arrested if president was Hillary? A Trump win means less migrants. A Trump win means 2nd amendment gets defended four more years. A Trump win means no war with Russia, China etc. Trump learned a few thing while he was president, he’ll be harder to manage time time around, maybe he’ll even attack some of those very rich & powerful enemies that he mentioned. Also, there is the possibility of secession with Trump president again. If Biden wins, it’s over, there… Read more »

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Evil Sandmich
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

The “no war” thing is nor small thing and not for lack of effort from the hawks. It’s also an illustration that at the very least he can lock the leviathan in place and nibble around its edges.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

I dunno man… that’s some weapons grade “perhaps” you’re looking to bet everything on

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
3 years ago

If I talked to Machiavelli in a seance he would say this: The best way to get white people to abandon their current politics is to make them feel pain. They already feel a lot of pain, most are treading water and one by one slipping below the water line. Once you do that traditional milquetoast (traitorous Bush) politics are over. So in a way to preserve the white race the white middle class must be destroyed, as the great political moderation was a result of mid 20th Century middle class prosperity. A consumerist, debt slave prosperity that robbed men… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Biden will be expected to start a new war within a matter of months, and both parties will be onboard with it.

Your points are excellent and I largely agree with them, but I think the Deep State oppression will intensify if Trump is elected, whether it is honored or not, and White will be forced to act.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

I think Biden’s handlers will want everything to go back to 1998, which it can’t and won’t, with globo-corp shipping product everywhere. But you never know, there could be a war. Hillary loved war after all. And if it does happen it would only drain resources faster. The dissident playbook should be like the old US playbook of drawing the Soviets into bankruptcy by any means. Unfortunately this means the obliteration of material prosperity in the short and medium term and real hardship. MMT is a perfect weapon to do this. The irony is the amount of dissidents who think… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

That’s not a bad strategy, bleeding the State dry, but it is happening without a war even now.

A humiliating military defeat, in which the majority of the casualties are not our people, would further delegitimize the USA with little harm to us.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

It amazes me how we sail our carriers around like old clipper ships. With the advent of hypersonic missiles they’ll end up either at the bottom of the Persian Gulf or the South China Sea. They were exposed white elephants even before this new technology. Yet another aspect of a declining civilization. A total aloofness to changes in military technology because wired in contractors need to keep the gravy flowing.

Wild Bergamot
Wild Bergamot
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

2014: “As the Russian jet approached the US vessel, the electronic device disabled all radars, control circuits, systems, information transmission, etc. on board the US destroyer. In other words, the all-powerful Aegis system, now hooked up – or about to be – with the defense systems installed on NATO’s most modern ships was shut down, as turning off the TV set with the remote control. “The Russian Su-24 then simulated a missile attack against the USS Donald Cook, which was left literally deaf and blind. As if carrying out a training exercise, the Russian aircraft – unarmed – repeated the same maneuver 12 times before… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Wild Bergamot
3 years ago

There are plenty of ways to disable or damage today’s electronic systems and their sensitive components.

For example, if you can transmit enough power on the right frequency at the opponent’s antenna, it is possible to blow out their receiver with little to no possibility of field repair. Sure, some systems have protective circuitry at the antenna input, but many don’t.

It is also possible to affect other points in the signal chain with enough power. It is not possible to protect every point in the signal chain because cost, size, and complexity would be totally unacceptable.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

The military serves two purposes, one less more than in the past. The first is it is a total grift. The other, less common now as Whites wake up and vibrants want to be all that they can be, is that it took our best and brightest out of the gene pool or crippled them.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Correct.

The MIC is all about profiteering now. It has nothing to do with developing systems that minimize our side’s casualties and maximize the opponent’s casualties.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

If the hypersonics don’t get the carriers the subs will. There have been multiple documented instances of subs popping up in the middle of battlegroups and getting torpedoes off during naval exercises. On top of that, the F/A-18 does not match up well versus the Flanker and all its variants. The F-22 and F-35 are so awesome that the Air Force just signed a huge contract with Boeing to restart production on an upgraded F-15 in St. Louis. Two of the main reasons being that the F-15 is much cheaper and it can carry an enormous amount of missiles compared… Read more »

Wild Bergamot
Wild Bergamot
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Also the military was bringing lots of foreigners into armed service as a path to U.S. citizenship. This was creating a true globalist military that would have no problem being used against its own U.S. citizens by globalist leaders. Trump noted at some point a few years back that this was not a good idea and somewhat put the brakes on the practice, it seems. “An estimated 511,000 foreign-born veterans – many of whom are citizens – live in the U.S., with approximately 40,000 immigrants actively serving today. An average of 7,000 legal permanent residents enlist each year, and more than 100,000 immigrants have served and… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Wild Bergamot
3 years ago

The CivNat, Sean Hannity like worship of the military is one of its worst aspects. I got into huge arguments over this in the aughts. Don’t tell them that a standing army was highly controversial at the founding of the Republic and that this grift, which has been in overdrive since 1940, robs all the productive of society (ahem, whites) while endangering them at the same time, both at home and abroad. In 2020 we have plenty of home grown brown people to “do the job Americans won’t do.” – Real Americans anyway.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Ziocucks like Hannity are unintentionally hilarious. The last time I watched or listened to him, after months of him chronicling FISA abuse, he was arguing for its renewal. Apparently only one percent of the FBI/DOJ is corrupt, you see.

They live in a world long dead. Conservatism is a more failed ideology than communism.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

So true. I cut the cord years ago, but I saw his show in my hotel room last month. Whenever I’m in hotels I always realize why cord cutting is the best thing ever.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
3 years ago

How are things in Lagos, Z?

The news cycle up here is focused mainly on Portland, Seattle and Chicago. But not a word out of Baltimore. Did Cornelius Rye and his homies burn the place down and not tell anyone?

Kestrel
Kestrel
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

I’m in Z’s Lagos, right in the middle, and surprisingly it is not all that out-of-normal. Sure, there was the Columbus statue torn down by the waterfront, and then a few marches here and there, but really nothing too violent (except that big gas explosion up the street). We are on track for a normal year of daily homicides, so I suppose that keeps the people happy. One thing I do find is that in my business I come across a lot of new people moving into the city: young 20-somethings coming here from New York, and almost all of… Read more »

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Kestrel
3 years ago

James Lafond says the ebons are afraid of the covid ghost, and have been lying low of late.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Kestrel
3 years ago

Surprisingly, Detoilet hasn’t exploded either.

bubba
bubba
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Alrite, sorry if this sounds stupid and I’m fairly new here, but does Z actually live in Lagos, Nigeria? Or is Lagos some kind of euphemism for something else?
I can’t figure it out…