Irreconcilable Differences

The great concern of the American Founders was that factionalism would result in irreconcilable differences. In Federalist 10, Madison argued against direct democracy, because it inevitably leads to factionalism. People have different interests due to differences in opinion, wealth and status. Naturally, the like-minded join together in factions to advance their interests, even at the expense of the community. The remedy was the representative structure in the proposed constitution.

In a big diverse country like America, there are very few things a large majority of the people will agree upon. There are the big things like individual rights and equality before the law, but most issues will only be supported by a plurality. If most people don’t care, then the plurality gets their way. If not, then the plurality is out of luck. The important thing is that there is general agreement on the big stuff and a willingness to ignore the small items or leave people to sort them on their own.

That was the point of the representative structure they devised. On the one hand, it prevented the fifty percent plus one from imposing its will on the rest. Tyranny of the majority is still tyranny. The system was designed to compel compromise among the factions that would inevitably form up. On the other hand, it delegated much of what mattered to people in their politics down to the states. This was to prevent one region from imposing its will on the rest.

The system did not last very long. Lincoln obliterated that old structure and created a new country dominated by the North, which explicitly wished to impose its morality on the rest of the country. Starting in the early 20th century, the ruling faction has been growing the power of the national government, at the expense of state government, in order to impose its will on the rest of the country. The full flowering of liberal democracy is minority rule, where a tiny group control everything.

This is exactly the sort of problem the Founders wished to avoid. By sharply limiting the power of the national government, it could never be a weapon used by one faction against the rest of the country. It would also prevent the formation of partisan schisms, where the two sides are defined by their opposition to the other. The new system would make it “more difficult for unworthy candidates to practice the vicious arts by which elections are too often carried.”

By “vicious arts” Madison meant the playing of one faction against another, in order to generate enthusiasm from one versus the other. The Founders understood that democracy always led to tyranny or anarchy. The antidote was republicanism, where individual or group interests were sublimated to the good of the whole, even when the individuals involved lacked the natural republican virtue. If Madison were alive today, he would recognize the pit into which we have fallen.

There are libraries full of books on how and why we quickly abandoned the system the Founders created. First it was the Civil War when the North conquered the rest of the country by force of arms. Then it was the slow dismantling of the federal system to create the system we today call liberal democracy. There will be libraries of books written on whatever comes next, assuming that what comes next is not a dark age. We are a long way from the original vision and we shall never return.

What is not discussed very often is how this evolution has arrived at a point where a significant portion of the people no longer accept reality. The partisanship and factionalism have reached a point where one faction is no longer able to agree with the other on basic points of reality. You see this in this post by a far-left activist working for the New York Times. The point of the post is to demonstrate that he will reject anything his enemy says, even when it is obvious fact.

Here we have the CDC posting updated information on the coronavirus that people with knowledge of how these things work suspected all along. The death counts were overblown, because the system was designed to do it. At some point the numbers get adjusted back to something closer to reality. In this case, the adjustment is newsworthy because it is so extreme. Still, it is a real thing, but the partisans cannot accept it, because they think it is supporting their enemies.

The same is true about the rioting this summer. You can go on-line and see people looting, fighting, burning and destroying things. Despite the thousands of hours of video on-line, the partisans demand we pretend they are peaceful outbursts over something they insist is true, despite the lack of evidence. When people they assume support Trump, their most supreme enemy, point out that these rioters are being underwritten and supported, they call it a conspiracy theory.

What makes this even more insane is the person who wrote that post, like the others in his ideological faction, spent years telling us invisible men with Slavic accents used mind control to alter the last election. They insisted that while the Biden family regularly takes bribes from foreign governments, noticing this is part of a conspiracy to undermine the democracy. These people not only oppose everything their enemies say, they create wild fantasies to justify their opposition.

Even though they did not use the word partisan in the modern sense, the Founders understood that groups of like-minded people could disagree with one another to the point where they could find no comprise. Their system was designed to force compromise, by preventing any one group from having complete power over the rest and thus imposing their will. That is the whole point of federalism and the separation of powers in the national government.

The Founders could not imagine partisanship in the modern Marxist sense, where the factions are defined in opposition to one another. Peter Baker, the writer of the New York Times post, is not able to think on his own. His partisan fervor now leads him to take the opposite of whatever he imagines his enemies are saying. If Trump says it is raining, then Mr. Baker will claim that his enemies have created a conspiracy theory where water falls from the sky.

If Mr. Baker were a lone lunatic, he could be dismissed, but he is representative of the ruling class. He is one of their paid spokesmen. How is it possible for normal people to reach a compromise with people who are defined by their unwillingness to reach any compromise with us? Who they are is defined by not agreeing with us on even the basic bits of observable reality. When a reporter is stationed in front of burning building and told to call it a peaceful protest, where’s the middle ground there?

We have reached a point where the ruling class is at war with reality. Part of that reality is they are a ruling class with certain duties and responsibilities. They reject that solely on the grounds that the people they rule over define a ruling class as having certain duties and responsibilities. This is why they celebrate the anarchists burning cities and murdering citizens. They oppose Trump, because he rhetorically represents the rest of us and they are the forever enemy of us.

There appears to be only two options at this stage. Either the ruling class abandons its war on the rest of us or the rest of us accept that we are at war. The former requires the ruling class to break free of the partisan madness that now grips them. This is something without precedent, but we live in an unprecedented time. The other option simply reacquires time. At some point, necessity will require people to accept reality and act accordingly. The rest is predictable.

Either way, we have reached a point that the Founders anticipated. They could not imagine men in sundresses shrieking like lunatics about white privilege, but they knew that unrestrained factionalism led to conflict. They knew that irreconcilable differences could only lead to one thing. That is where we find ourselves. Normal society is now at odds with the people that rule over it. Either the people in charge come to their senses or the people will have no choice but to remove them.

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Evil Sandmich
2 months ago

His partisan fervor now leads him to take the opposite of whatever he imagines his enemies are saying. If Trump says it is raining, then Mr. Baker will claim that his enemies have created a conspiracy theory where water falls from the sky.

Reminds me of the joke where a lot of issues in the country could be resolved if Trump publicly came out against suicide. Well I’m supposing it’s a joke…

Indispensable_Destiny
Member
2 months ago

Good read. On another note, I saw you coined “Boomer Waffen” on another site. Made this boomer smile.

Durendal
Durendal
Reply to  Indispensable_Destiny
2 months ago

I also saw that. The part that supports Z’s current blog is that some people are ready to start the Civil War. We shall see.

ZerohTollrants
ZerohTollrants
Reply to  Indispensable_Destiny
2 months ago

Coined on 4chan, circa 2016.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
2 months ago

Separation of powers was the fundamental flaw in the constitution. The founders imagined that people in each institution would value the institutional power above all else and “check” each other’s ambitions. They failed to see that those people were transient to the institutions and that they would have loyalties that transcended they institutions. “Factionalism” barely scratches the surface of that reality. They also failed to see that separation of powers meant chaos and the diffusion and obscuring of responsibility and accountability. Under their system the buck doesn’t stop anywhere.

Cherub
Cherub
Reply to  thezman
2 months ago

“New England should have been setup as a separate country.”

They still would have invaded at some point. IMO there will be no having this chalice passed on.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Cherub
2 months ago

The Sans Cullottes had a solution for the Vendee. Franco had a solition for the Rojos Madrallinos. There are options.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Educated.redneck
2 months ago

difference being, the Vendee martyrs inspired Franco for good. so we can’t turn the rojos into secular martyrs either. at least, not all of them. the snake is crushed at the head.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  thezman
2 months ago

Probably controversial, and not excusing what the North did to the South, but I suspect what really offended the North was that the South gave us the gift of diversity. Northerners don’t like outsiders, especially up in New England. Most won’t express it, but it’s a fact. The fanaticism is a tragic flaw in the northern character, ie, diverting and damming negative emotions until they erupt instead of expressing them and being done with them.

Just a theory, just throwing it out there

G Bell
G Bell
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 months ago

Actually, according to the memoirs of Confederate soldiers, in the last part against Grant they were fighting Negroes and newly arrived emigrants as Union soldiers so diversity was their strength even back then. Also, the North had slaves but Lincoln did not free them, only ones in a country of which he was not President, the CSA. (example: Rhode Island tobacco wealth built on slave labor).

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  G Bell
2 months ago

Right. It’s telling that Lincoln didn’t free slaves in the North. And blacks have been weaponized against southern whites ever since. I think repatriation would’ve been the order of the day were it not for cheap labor and a means of suppressing the South.

Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 months ago

I often wonder if Jesus should have said that the love of cheap labor is the root of all evil. Egalitarian fanaticism wouldn’t have such power if cynical rich people the world over weren’t using it as an excuse to flood white nations with riff raff.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  pozymandias
2 months ago

“Love of money” covers “cheap labor”. I like the lesser known parable of the rich man who kept hiring workers throughout the day, and ended up paying them all the same. When one complained, the master correctly noted, “Did I not pay you what we agreed upon?” There’s a Buddha story with a similar plot, where a follower is complaining about this or that, and Buddha says “Did I ever ask you to…?” Or “Did I ever require you to…?”

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 months ago

Disagree; paintersform, you are again projecting rationality onto the Enemy. If it weren’t slavery, it was prohibition, or conservation, or dirt world proselytizing, or sufferage, or the White Feathers sending our boys to die for no reason, or FDR sending our boys to die to spread international communism, or SJW cause de jour. See: “purity spiral.” The “goal” is not their goal, the process is their goal, and the process never ends, it just finds new rationalizations to continue. If we paid $20 trillion in “reparations,” would the joggers stop raping 80,000 of our women every year??? This process-oriented purity… Read more »

Teeshawn
Teeshawn
Member
Reply to  Educated.redneck
2 months ago

”””The “goal” is not their goal, the process is their goal, and the process never ends,”

well said. No more trying to “win an argument”, time for the knife. Time to separate BAMP

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Educated.redneck
2 months ago

If they’d lighten up a little most of them wouldn’t go crazy and follow John Browns.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Educated.redneck
2 months ago

Yes! Brilliant exposé.

b123
b123
Reply to  thezman
2 months ago

Goodwhites are mentally ill, probably mentally insane. It’s terminal; there is no cure. A goodwhite never believes in what’s around them, but in the prevailing idealistic narrative.

Alot of normie whites are just going along to get along. But the goodwhite will never be saved.

Goodwhites are a dying breed, thanks to birth control their fertility is about 1.2. In a final suicidal fit they appear to be trying to kill us badwhites so we go down with them.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  b123
2 months ago

So let’s not make it easy for them by staying in the cities, staying isolated, and not grouping up with other Like-minded people…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Lineman
2 months ago

Lineman,

I think the current pre-election drama d’guerre is fulfilling your dire predictions and urgings. Story after story of people bugging out of cities (let’s stop saying blue hives, they are all blue hives) and u-haul shortages. My realtor contact in the South says business is booming.

We may have to migrate Our thinking from urging White exodus to sorting the incoming Whites to rural America. Discriminating the actual refugees from the carpetbaggers and “good whites” in ref. to welcoming folks.

Juri
Juri
Reply to  b123
2 months ago

They have organic brain defect.This was already known by ancient Egyptians. Liberal brain reminded some kind of number combination and later went to the bible with infamous devil sign in the forehead. Today everybody may check” liberal brain different” or “brain structure and political viewpoints” or whatever.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
2 months ago

Agreed. Once the Articles of Confederation were replaced, it was game, set, match. The Northern fanatics never intended to respect the Bill of Rights and the fact the Founders knew it had to be included indicated they suspicioned it as well. Lincoln was just the kill shot.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  thezman
2 months ago

no, they knew full well what the north was capable of; the salem witch trials alone would have done that. but the founders would have known the puritan tendencies from the english civil war, and afterwards.

slavery and the business model it was based on, were far less competitive than the industrial north. why the south didn’t sell all their slaves off and go industrial is a mystery. but that difference in economic competitiveness started more than one war.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Karl McHungus
2 months ago

Maybe *TWENTY FIVE* people died in the Salem witch trials. Stalin killed that many people before breakfast on a random Wednesday. And yet kids in school have no idea who Stalin was (wasn’t he that nice fellow that helped us keep that madman Hitler from conquering Ohio?). The zebra killers killed fifteen people in the 70s and that’s almost completely unknown We all know about THE TERRIBLE WITCH TRIALS just like we all know about THE INNOCENT EMMETT TILL… it’s just a minor incident plucked out of history and boosted up to max volume with the (((megaphone))) because it’s one… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  thezman
2 months ago

If New Englanders had been able to get along with other people, including each other, they would not have had all those little tiny states from day one. They all hate each other up there, and “Massholes” is a thing.

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RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Dutch
2 months ago

It’s like that Tom Lehrer song where “The Catholics hate the Protestants, and the Protestants hate the Catholics, and everybody hates the Jews.” TBH the believing P’s and C’s get along fine. Everybody not on the take hates the 3rd-world drug gangs/cartels and their bought-and-paid-for politicians and judges who refuse to charge them.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  thezman
2 months ago

The Damn Yankee, the roundhead, the sjw… The Serpent.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Educated.redneck
2 months ago

Just a thanks to this subthread started by Painter. My own obsession with the foreign element, the JQ, is unhelpful, unhealthy, and lacking… something. A mote, beam sort of thing. What is the demographic makeup of the Puritans or Yankees? Which of Albion’s seeds are the Roundheads? Did they look to negroes for validation, yet keep them out of their own street, as they do today? (Or secretly mad that the South hadn’t taken them all off their hands?) There were a lot of black Revolutionaries and prominent men in New England. What is it with these two-faced fanatics? I… Read more »

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  thezman
2 months ago

The phrase which the Founders often used to slander, if that is possible, the revlutionary minds of the day, was Visionary and Utopian Thinkers. It would likley be taken as a compliment in our times. But they were probably keeping an eye on Europe when they said this.

Juri
Juri
Reply to  thezman
2 months ago

This is not limited to “Northern”. Mao and Pol Poth and Islamic State and my own fellow goodwhites down here in the 1917 are barely Northern. Liberalism is world wide disease like heart attack.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Juri
2 months ago

It may be a bug in the basic human code, Juri, making us unable to resist destroying everything.

Archer
Archer
Reply to  thezman
2 months ago

Actually, Z, fanaticism and intolerance were the reasons Europe convulsed with civil war. The Catholics couldn’t tolerate the Protestants and vice versa. New England was just a replay of the civil wars in England, France, etc.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Archer
2 months ago

Correct. But every time we bring this up, the fanatics begin shouting about slavery.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  thezman
2 months ago

in all fairness, all the American regions could be separate countries. devolution of powers worked in the Anglosphere because it remained Anglo, and for a long while monarchical and religious, which would have natural elites leading from above and holding down the Anglo addiction to radical freedom, open-mindedness, and democracy. democracy eventually is pulled apart by radicals and factions stirring up the mobs, and republicanism is but a fragile sublimation of democracy. the original Republic was replaced by Empire, then the Church.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
2 months ago

The system had already been compromised by the time of Marbury v. Madison in 1804. Marshall should have been impeached and removed at that point. Instead, that relic of John Adams’ defeated faction hung on another three decades.

Archer
Archer
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
2 months ago

The big issue was none of the founders thought all three Brache’s of government would have an unlimited thirst for expanding their collective powers.
Of course, the government spends lots of money and influences the expenditure of much of the rest. As long as that’s true, we are doomed.
The Founders should have had in the constitution a constraint on Federal spending, like 5% of GDP, as it was in 1900, when we were already a super power.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Archer
2 months ago

I don’t think it would have helped. After all, the Constitution says money will only be gold and silver. Yet, there were national bank charters going way back. Not to mention Lincoln’s greenbacks. How in God’s name did the founders or the Congress not limit the President’s time in office. Washington resigned after two terms knowing full well what more time in office would do. I think people underestimate the damage done by FDR by virtue of the fact that he was in office so long. He fundamentally changed the federal government, the courts and the legal profession and all… Read more »

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  tarstarkas
2 months ago

That is not true re disarming. By 1947 the US had scrapped most of its military and the Korean War exposed the lack of armament. During Ike’s time it was the air force and Operation Chrome Dome with nuclear bombers constantly aloft that guarded the cold war.
Conscription was unpopular. Hence everything to avoid it.
Agreed on everything else but details matter.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Whiskey
2 months ago

Conscription was unpopular.

Conscription would be less unpopular if every military were required to have generals/admirals lead from the front lines alongside every politician or their firstborn. Somehow that did not make it into the Geneva Convention as a universal requirement.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Whiskey
2 months ago

The US spending on military never again reached pre-ww2 levels. I looked up the details some time ago. In 1939 it was well below the low of 52 Billion in 1947 1946 556.9 1947 52.4 1948 103.9 1949 144.2 1950 141.2 1951 224.3 1952 402.1 1953 442.3 1954 420.9 1955 376.9 1956 356.2 1957 $360.9 1958 352.9 1959 352.5 This is probably most of the reason inflation is now just a part of life. With the exception of the 20s, up until the 40s the only periods of inflation in the US were during and right after the wars with… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
2 months ago

I’d argue the blind spot had to do with money, which is understandable because many colonists were or were descended from profiteers.

Most of America’s problems come down to love of money imo.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 months ago

Most of America’s problems come down to love of money imo.

This love has inflicted enormous costs upon the nation in the form of the addiction to the cheapest possible labor.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

This a thousand times. Whatever European polities are born out of the murdered wreckage of America, the very first rule of any constitution needs to be ZERO immigration with mandatory death penalty for violation. If a ruling class wants more labor, then they need to be good civilizational stewards and cultivate fecundity in the quality portion of their own working class. Diversity is only a strength to the globalist oligarchs and we need to be damn sure that when we get rid of the current set we ensure that new ones do not take their places.

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Horace
2 months ago

I agree. I’d be willing to accept a small amount of White immigration , in a population of say 200 million, 20k would not hurt. That said, the New DR Republic will have to figure our how to deal with trade and automation as well. The ideal is to get back to the 20’s level, few imports, few exports, good mostly made locally and mainly imported luxury goods. Problem is that the instant a boot is off necks or that they don’t have to face overseas competition, the quality drops to nil. Its hard to stop short term thinking, planned… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  abprosper
2 months ago

I think a lot of problems would be solved once you stop immigration and deport all those who are here illegally and some of the ones who are here legally including wages…

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Lineman
2 months ago

I agree that it will help but we had the same “no babies” problem back from 1973 onward when the US was 85% White. Largely things like Amazon and Craigslist and the like make goods and or services cheaper and far more effective but at a huge cost in total number of jobs. The DR shares the entirely risible assumption that our fertility rate can be fixed by social changes alone but we’ve had White countries in Eastern Europe make these changes, push family and religion and while its had a small benefit, not on has gone above repalcment anywhere.… Read more »

Teeshawn
Teeshawn
Member
Reply to  abprosper
2 months ago

Catholic Church forbids contraception. This is a subject never touched in the dissent community. Frustrating the marital act is difficult to understand outside of the processing the catholic faith. But its always been obvious to me. The marital act is for babies, not for our pleasure.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Teeshawn
2 months ago

Its not breached because US , Whites here are mostly really not religious and the Christian ones Protestant in origin and don’t share those views. No cheap for free social capital for reproduction is available at this time or except among the ultra religious at all. Culture can be shifted a little but the bills in term of steady income must be paid. Besides , its false sex is not just for babies, its for fun and improving intimacy as well. Even Catholics these days rarely share these views at least n the developed world , France, Poland, Ireland to… Read more »

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Teeshawn
Teeshawn
Member
Reply to  abprosper
2 months ago

I’m not going to spend a lot of time on this, like I said, without faith, its very hard to understand. Pleasure and intimacy are secondary ends. Babies are the primary end of our sex organs and our sexuality. THe continuity of the race is more important than a romp and cuddling! Abortion is also only different means of the same goal as contraception: fun with no babies. This is a major flaw in the dissident movement. One or two trophy children is not going to build a culture. Just because people who self identify as Catholic practice contraception, doesnt… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Teeshawn
2 months ago

You can’t build a society on assumptions most people don’t share. You don’t have the moral authority and can’t really even influence it outside of your own sphere , call it observant Catholics if you like. In our society 95% of men use porn and essentially all women (99% if Gutmacher is accurate) use birth control on some occasions. Its a non starter. More importantly you can’t get people to have more children without wages going up. Given a choice, the kind of people we want in our society will chose to put more into fewer children , the less… Read more »

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  abprosper
2 months ago

So… it’s farfetched to get people to participate in our shared ancestral culture that’s existed in hundred of places across thousands of years (and still does today in several) BUT! Any day now we’re going to develop into the world’s largest postmodern commercial secular ethnostate – a utopian arrangement of your very own devising that’s existed nowhere ever and only even advocated by a vanishingly small percentage of essentially powerless people? All you’re really saying is you aren’t comfortable with our ancestral moral and religious law so that obviously can’t be taken seriously… but the wildly unrealistic things YOU like… Read more »

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  abprosper
2 months ago

You can thank pornography for that.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Epaminondas
2 months ago

Not really. Porn was not nearly as common or as perverse in the 70’s as now but the TFR hasn’t really varied since 1973. And yes I know it was out there, It wasn’t nearly as ubiquitous and while it was not a Federal thing after 1973, many States banned some of all of it well into the video tape era. I’m fairly certain that 3 years of no fault divorce (since 1970) in some states or a relaxation of porn laws in a few (since 1973 federally) places may have some small contribution it wasn’t enough to create that… Read more »

Royaliste
Royaliste
Reply to  Teeshawn
2 months ago

Excellent point. Contraception opened the door to other eveils. If the purpose of the marital embrace is not primarily procreation but merely an expression of love, how can you deny homosexuals the right to marry, and other perversions?

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

Yep, it’s a perennial theme. Also commercialism/consumerism, the whole capitalism/socialism/communism debate, feminism used to double the workforce and drive a wedge between the sexes, etc. It’s all about money, and that’s why DR faces strong headwinds.

Food for thought: millennials have a reputation as commies. Maybe it’s because they have a sense that the market god doesn’t love them, and there are no mainstream voices speaking to them about it. It’s either be a commie or go hard on the JQ. Big opportunity there for DR.

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 months ago

Only here would someone actually try to understand the appeal of Communism tot he millennial crowd. Nicely done.
IMO much of this so called “race” rioting is not about “race” at all but about economics. If the woke crowd started talking about money or turned into another “Occupy Wall Street.” they’s be curb stomped by everybody, progressive and otherwise.
Make it about nonsense, hide your true intentions , strong socialism and maybe you can get ahead.
This doesn’t make the anti White insanity any less real or dangerous but it suggests hidden depths to me.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
2 months ago

First generation to be told they’ll be poorer and shorter-lived than their parents— and their country is going to belong to immigrants. Education is a joke, career paths are hard to come by, good luck finding someone worth starting a family with (men and women). All that for following the rules, taking the student loans, fighting Hajji for 20 years, etc. They know the system is using them, and nobody seems to have answers, just ‘suck it up, quit being a pussy’. There’s the temptation of burning it all down, commie style, and many fall prey to it. Others masochistically… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 months ago

Quite true.
Also the establishment generations are getting old.
Boomers are hitting 70+ and no sense of continuity with 50+ Gen X leads to an upcoming power vacuum.
Heck the oldest of our our largest generation the millennials are nearly 40 and have the lowest fertility rates as well.
This dynamic combined with the now dead for good economy is leading to a lot of strife.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
2 months ago

Agreed. What we’re seeing is in no small part incoherent millennial rage, because nobody in the mainstream is offering a way forward for them.

And don’t get me wrong, things have gotten better under Trump— especially if you’re black, hispanic, or trading on the stock market. He likes to point that out 🙂 Seriously though he’s been alright, but a little red meat for younger whites would be good.

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RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

It’s one thing to import labor into an empty continent. What they’re doing now with OPT and “H” visas is scandalous.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  RoBG
2 months ago

That wasn’t a good idea either. A Constitution written for Englishmen isn’t suitable for anyone else, even Germans.
Our constant lust for economic development is what did us in and frankly its fitting.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 months ago

Most of America’s problems come down to love of money imo.

That’s human nature plus the british colonists had an entire continent to conquer brimming with riches to satisfy that love. There’s no mystery then in why the U.S. could not contain itself within the founders’ vision but became an empire.

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Tom K
2 months ago

Yes but wasn’t the first British colony a corporation? America was half-founded as a commercial enterprise. That was practically unique in history (maybe some Greek city-states or something), and a hard thing to overcome on the way to nationhood.

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Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 months ago

Yes and I don’t mean to imply that the love of money is irresistible. But one of the colonists’ grievances was that the British were hindering their unfettered expansion to the west. I’ve sometimes wondered why that was official British policy. Larger geopolitical issues at play probably. Not that they (the British) were any less greedy.

William Williams
William Williams
Reply to  Tom K
2 months ago

>>>the British were hindering their unfettered expansion to the west

From what I’ve read, the Quebec Act, assigning the lands extending from Ohio to Minnesota, to the Province of Quebec, was particularly Intolerable to the wealthiest and most influential colonial elites (“land speculators”). These are not the people any government should want to distress.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Tom K
2 months ago

Alas, history teaches that all empires must end. An exceptional one might last a thousand years (Rome), of course drastically changing its form during that time.

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
2 months ago

What should they have done?

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Phoenix
2 months ago

Created a unitary state. Monarchy preferably, but a parliamentary system is far superior to what we have.

William Williams
William Williams
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
2 months ago

A parliamentary system with a written (and rigorously enforced) constitution perhaps.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
2 months ago

The founders didn’t make any “great mistake” they produced a system which produced great results sustained for centuries.

There is no system so great that it can survive being helmed by terrible people.

We have a terrible people problem, resulting from a terrible culture problem, resulting from a terrible spiritual problem.

No document or scheme will make it work the way the old people did.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Anonymousse
2 months ago

The constitutional system worked well for a few dacades at most. The founders all realized that making the Supreme Court the final arbiter of constitutionality was a huge mistake and not what they intended, but even then the system had to much inertia to be substantially reformed. It plodded along relatively well, if you overlook that whole civil war thing, for about a century. Mostly because near exponential growth in the 19th century lubricated and covered a lot of flaws. But the system effectively died in the early 20th century. At this point, it’s a preposterous farce – a zombie… Read more »

Ganderson
Ganderson
2 months ago

The NYT article pretty much describes what all my college-town neighbors believe. Expect the new info on Corona-chan deaths to lead to more restrictions- my town now has a mask mandate in the downtown area, and has set up a hotline to dime out social distance/ mask mandate criminals.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Ganderson
2 months ago

Well, vote with your dollars and refuse to spend any money downtown.

Encourage friends and family to do likewise.

Maybe write a letter to the local paper about your rejection of this pretty tyranny, using the CDC’s corrected Beer flu death number of a mere 9k.

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b123
b123
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

I just don’t spend any money anywhere. Maybe at an italian restaurant that’s owned by mama mia from Sicily but that’s the extent of my dining out.

I started changing my own oil and repairing my car myself after having the misfortune of experiencing an all-Arab staffed lube chain. Why would I give these strangers my money? (Post being woke of course).

Most restaurants have brown (indian here, Mexican in the usa) staff and the food is overpriced and tastes like shit. Coronahoax shut downs are killing the restaurant industry and that makes me happy.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  b123
2 months ago

the food is overpriced and tastes like shit.

This is nearly every restaurant now since they all buy their ingredients in bulk from GFS or Sysco.

Also, portion sizes are utterly ridiculous. I hate the trend of burgers that are too tall to fit in one’s mouth as they fall apart because they so filled with grease and sauce.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ganderson
2 months ago

I hope people are seeing the CDC admission that the actual count of deaths by covid are ~ 10,000, or 6%…

…with the other 94% due to co-morbidities, exposure to long term care, and nearness of death by age.

Massagynist
Massagynist
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

James Lafond said we’ve reached herd immunity to reality.

Hat tip to Myth of 20th Century podcast

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Massagynist
2 months ago

biggest loser around; total downer. also a really affected and confusing writing style.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Ganderson
2 months ago

I was just at the grocery store and they have removed the one way arrows on the floor

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  whitney
2 months ago

Ah! The Beer Flu Bastille has finally been breached!

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 months ago

Where I go in the Northeast, these are union shops (all must be, by law up here)– 2 months ago, I had to stand outside, call it in, and somebody would come outside to sign. NO ENTRY!!

Mask, gloves, yellow vest, partitions, your pen only, severe distancing- the works.

Now its back to the old grubby, grouchy cheer- just walk in, and if you wear that mask, you get either the Sneer or the Look.

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KGB
KGB
Reply to  whitney
2 months ago

That’s funny, this past weekend I had my first encounter with a Branch Covidian since all this started — and that’s with me often being the only one in a store without a mask. First he muttered under his breath about me having the mask down around my chin, then he mumbled something about me going the wrong way down the aisle at Aldi. I didn’t engage the ole’ fella at all. Just let him stew in his juices. I don’t think I’ve ever seen people pay any attention to those one-way arrows.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
2 months ago

Tyranny of the majority is still tyranny. The Founders understood that democracy always led to tyranny or anarchy. Or in our case Anarcho-Tyranny combining the best of both worlds! Anglin has a piece up that is deeply insightful regarding this in the wake of the ‘Do Something!1!” cry we are hearing after the ‘Kyle Incident’ last week. His (correct) general theory is that you are not fighting against Anitfa/BLM because they could be (and should be) stopped by the government at will. You are fighting against the government directly if you choose to engage Antifa/BLM who are their partisan shock… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  thezman
2 months ago

There is a clip of a militia member stating Kenosha PD told him the PD was going to push the rioters into the militia, then pull back so the militia could, “deal with them.”

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

(Pic) Kyle with fire extinguisher (left). Rosenbaum feeding the dumpster fire (right)

It was putting the dumpster fire out that put the 2 groups at odds with each other.

At no time was Kyle the charging aggressor.

Free Kyle, Jail Gaige
Free Kyle, Jail Gaige
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

This is the clip. If true, the cops may have tried to create another Charlottesville. https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1300143461186887680 In any case, another Charlottesville did erupt, but this time Kyle became this decade’s Bernie Goetz. To expand on Zman’s theme of irreconcilable differences, the difference in Kyle’s public perception versus media perception is remarkable. The fact that BLM/Antifa is now opening fire on Trump supporters helps too. The public increasingly appreciates that BLM/Antifa are the evil ones, and normal white people have always been the good guys. The media is shrieking to the contrary but no one except their sycophants hears them. I… Read more »

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c matt
c matt
Reply to  Free Kyle, Jail Gaige
2 months ago

Even people who aren’t necessarily assaulting, burning, looting, lasering, vandalizing or murdering, but are merely marching and chanting, are still out for blood.

Well, if they are not actively condemning the rioters, they are complicit. Silence is violence, so I’ve heard.

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  Free Kyle, Jail Gaige
2 months ago

The republi-frauds are the purest of evil for the reasons you state..

Nikola
Nikola
Reply to  Free Kyle, Jail Gaige
2 months ago

Yep, the so-called “peaceful protestors” merely serve as foil and cover. They all want to murder badwhites.
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Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

Making my wildest dreams come true,
Charlottesville in reverse.

HopLob
HopLob
Reply to  Spin geraht
2 months ago

This is uniting the right like nothing else in years. The anti Whites fucked up bad.

We’re tired of getting bricked on the head by anti Whites and the people that let them run rabid.

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  thezman
2 months ago

The reason he was in that town in the first place is because he worked there that day as a lifeguard.

A friend of his from Kenosha loaned him the gun. The gun was not transported across state lines.

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Happy Hotep
Happy Hotep
Reply to  Phoenix
2 months ago

I don’t even care about any of these justifications. Only one of Kyle’s violent thug attackers was from Kenosha, and some of them were felons who weren’t even supposed to have guns. If their side doesn’t play by the rules, why should I care if my side plays by the rules? My side is righteous no matter what. Their side is evil no matter what. We need to free ourselves from principles and logical/rhetorical rules that are always used against us. They want to keep us in a box of legalities, rhetorical handicaps, and technicalities while they’re allowed to run… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Happy Hotep
2 months ago

Well it’s super late so probably no one will see this but I thought it relevant. Anyway, lately I’ve been trying to get out of my online bubble (no offense guys) and reach out to at least some of the local people who aren’t totally insane. This being the Portland metro area, it’s been a struggle. I’ve lately made inquiries with the local GOP about Trump events, rallies, etc… A huge problem though is that most of “our” events are still cancelled here or taking place with tons of silly restrictions. I just feel like screaming at these people “don’t… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Apex Predator
2 months ago

A lot of the idiocracy now stems from a large percentage of the population, both left and right, living in a digital reality now, and it’s only going to accelerate with the newer generation.
Any parent who gives their child unfettered access to electronics, even with parent blockers, is a fool.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 months ago

I’m convinced that writing and doing math by hand develops far stronger neural pathways than tapping a screen like some kind of trained monkey.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

Children given electronic media while mere babies, tapping screens and getting instant feedback and rapidly changing images, develop differently than normal children. Electronic media literally creates different synapses in the brain. There’s a reason so many young kids cannot focus for more than a moment on any one thing, nor think more deeply than a TikTok challenge.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  3g4me
2 months ago

No TV before 3!!

It rewires that developing brain wrong.

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RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

There’s a reason the FaceBerg and Gates families didn’t allow it with their own children.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

You’re right, but is three the appropriate time to be dunked in the sewer? How about no TV EVER. At it’s most harmless it is an existentially nightmarish way to entirely waste your precious life.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

writing something by hand makes a much stronger memory; i.e. it aides memorizing material.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

I still balance my checkbook, though I will double check with a calculator. Granted, I’m old fashioned…

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 months ago

I think you are right, Chet. The kids are exposed to the world through electronics, and along with that go the filthiest vices and criminals the human animal can create. I am 56 and I can barely handle it sometimes…

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 months ago

Manufactured reality, from tv and sm, is now more real than real.

We used to live by stories, of honor, conduct, or wisdom, but now we live in a movie…

…with way too many auditioning prima donnas, people high on malice.

We could name that movie Brazil.

With third world overpopulation and multiculturalism crowding in, we get:

Brazil annual homicides: ~59,000

Rest of the globe, annual homicides: ~59,000

(excluding Africa, Caribbean, Brazil)

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

Dagnab, I forgot to say a Hollywood movie- because the producers, the second-raters, were always mad, creatures of fantasy, jealousy, and delusion.

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BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

There is already an excellent dystopian movie named Brazil. At least the director’s cut version.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  BadThinker
2 months ago

I thought it most appropriate, no?

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

Brazil was by far the largest importer of African slaves in the western hemisphere. Ten times more than were brought to the 13 colonies that became the US (400K v. 4Million.)

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

Brazil has a low TFR now though. Its 1.74 as of 2017.
Apparently TV was able to get the population to have less children.
In time this will calm down as simply put, less people, less problems.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 months ago

This may be the most right. Extremely online and extremely bubbled will lead to not-online civil war. The boomerwaffen and patriotwaffen are checking Facebook every 5 minutes and polishing their weaponry as we speak.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Marko
2 months ago

Unfortunately, the only group that “boomerwaffen and patriotwaffen” will use their weapons against is us. Sad, but true.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 months ago

Lineinthesand: only if we show up! Stay in the countryside. Let the Boomers and the Soros Armies start the war; OrangeFranco will call out the JONS-Falange when things are already hot and they need more hard men ready for hard tasks.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 months ago

Yep, I hear a lot of mostly decent white parents bemoaning the moral collapse and degeneracy of society… and meanwhile the kids are in the other room entranced by globoschlomo on netflicks. They seem incapable of making the connection or simply too lazy to make the effort to actually raise their own kids. Of course mom and dad are probably binging Game of Thrones…

The crazy pace of social decay is only possible because of the ministrations of the telescreens but so few can really kick the addiction

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Apex Predator
2 months ago

You are fighting against the government directly if you choose to engage Antifa/BLM who are their partisan shock troops that have the full backing of the State and Corporate America.

Agreed on this point, anyhow. Antifa are State-sponsored terrorists. I still don’t know what the end game is with hollowing out the cities but have several possible reasons in mind.

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Hun
Hun
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

Go on

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Hun
2 months ago

Well, the Left wants a hot war ready for the November election, a coup is likely if the far left doesnt sweep November. Leftist Current Year mentality works forwards and backwards: there is no last time, there is no next time.

Tim from Nashua
Tim from Nashua
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

Here’s a possible reason: The (((small hats))) are fomenting the burning/rioting/looting, and Wuhan Virus Lockdown, in order to drive the value of urban real estate down. Sane people are dumping their places for a loss, in order to escape the insanity. The financial (((small hats))) then pick up the vacated real estate for ‘a song’, then argue against the rioting/ looting/burning. The government puts an end to the Antifa/BLM via RICO and anti-terrorism laws, and the (((small hats))) commence to sell the urban real estate for a profit.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Tim from Nashua
2 months ago

Small Hats make money on the “churn”, collecting a bunch of fees on both ends of real estate transactions. This seems like…not a very smart way to go about it, but then again they do have a tendency to get in over their heads with their schemes.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Tim from Nashua
2 months ago

Maybe. Problem is, property values are tied to things like crime rate and amenities, so while it’s no small thing to drive values down but encouraging looting and rioting, there’s no guarantee that the rioting stops before property values tank semi permanently.

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Tim from Nashua
2 months ago

Old man Rothschild pretty much wrote that play book over 200 yrs. ago.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

I don’t know that there is a single end game. I suspect it is an unfortunate conflux of perceived advantages by opposing factions: the supporters (Democrats) think this will either show Trump’s ineffectiveness or wear down the public to cry uncle and vote Dem just to make it stop; the Trumpians/GOP think this will show the ineffectiveness of Democratic leadership (and just how bad life under Dems could be) to push voters towards Trump/GOP. Thus, it appears to be in both sides interests to let it continue as long as the body count does not get too high.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

Sometimes people just to mad and they just knock down their own house. There isn’t always a brilliant master plan behind things.

DR tends to view jews as these super far sighted schemers, but they’ve been booted out of a hundred countries. They’re not nearly as smart as we think
they are, much less as smart as they think they are.

They’re cultural arsonists but fires grow out of control.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Apex Predator
2 months ago

Striker on twitter:

“The FBI uses the prospect of cooperation to bust “antifa” to set up and spy on right-wingers, who are their real targets.

This is a trick they developed after Charlottesville

the FBI is paying people in pro-Trump patriotic orgs 5 figure sums to try and “infiltrate” Antifa.

The FBI is setting you up. They desperately need to manufacture a right-wing “terrorist”.”

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

Antifa is the terrorist arm of the FBI and other State actors. The only bright side is some portion of Antifa are going rogue so we have the visual of a guillotine in Bezos’ front yard (it may be psyops, dunno). The State goons who support Antifa only will react when something besides optics are employed against their pimps. I think that very well may happen.

b123
b123
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

Antifa is occupying your neighborhood because sending in the military to do so would be worse optics for them.

They both play on the same team, with the same controllers.

Which team, which controllers, what end goal? Still don’t know that one.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

Yup. Rittenhouse is for the #2A people what Moldylocks wad for the AltRight.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  MemeWarVet
2 months ago

Whut?

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

“the FBI is paying people in pro-Trump patriotic orgs 5 figure sums to try and “infiltrate” Antifa”

Probably true, but a source would be helpful. I know you’re quoting someone else.

Last edited 2 months ago by LineInTheSand
Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 months ago

Hate twitter, by Striker

https://mobile.twitter.com/Aarick20/status/1300194002789175296

Most of what I post is stolen, trying to keep it useful and relevant (and minimal).

(I go thru too much to bookmark, usually uncredited cut-n-pastes to a notepad)

Last edited 2 months ago by Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

I think he’s part of the NatJustice /TRS/MikeP crowd, so salt to taste.

Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

You might be right, Stryker ought to know as he is an asset.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Spin geraht
2 months ago

Stryker just seems like a pretty smart guy who tried to edgelord so hard he ended up actually supporting a few things that even offend the people that matter. If contemporary art galleries have taught me anything it’s that you’re supposed to be edgy in ways that annoy nice baptist grandmas only.

H I
H I
2 months ago

Cleaning. In Eastern Europe it was called lustration, in France it was called epuration. Same idea. Regime collaborators were removed from positions of influence, forever.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  H I
2 months ago

At the root, the numbers are few, and hence a focused approach to remedy is much, much more efficient and there is almost no collateral damage. Technology is your friend. Tall walls and mercenary guards are no longer an obstacle of consequence. Make them pay and they will flee. Ancient wisdom.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  H I
2 months ago

Only small fish or people with ineffectual connections were removed.
People who studied in Moscow during communism and top people from KGB, AVH, StB, etc. are now among the wealthiest in Eastern Europe.

Lady Dandy Doodle
Lady Dandy Doodle
Reply to  Hun
2 months ago

Or living in the Upper West side with vacation houses in the Poconos.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  H I
2 months ago

In Covington’s books it was Force 101. Dirty work, but someone has to take out the trash.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
2 months ago

We have reached a point where the ruling class is at war with reality. Part of that reality is they are a ruling class with certain duties and responsibilities. They reject that solely on the grounds that the people they rule over define a ruling class as having certain duties and responsibilities. This is why they celebrate the anarchists burning cities and murdering citizens. They oppose Trump, because he rhetorically represents the rest of us and they are the forever enemy of us. I think that is far, far too generous. The Ruling Class knows full it is engaged in… Read more »

b123
b123
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

I’ve wondered what the plan is too. I do think the new white flight is very bad. These freaks are moving to suburbs, small towns, and smaller cities and will continue being virtue signalling goodwhites. The whiter the area, the more shrill their screaming.

Communities need to oppose all new housing development for the time being.

For a while the plan was to gentrify, and house the wannabe young elites in trendy reclaimed areas. Clearly it’s been decided that this project is no longer desirable, for some reason.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  b123
2 months ago

Communities need to oppose all new housing development for the time being.

Agreed. I must note, though, the refugees are going to smaller cities already quite Blue, too.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

Communities need to oppose all new housing development for the time being.
You can only do that if you have like-minded people in your area to do that… People that aren’t awake will resist you because they don’t know the consequences of those people moving in…

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Lineman
2 months ago

This would seem somewhat contradictory as in “at odds” with the building communities discussion we often have? If the community you reside in is closed to outsiders, then your building materials are limited.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Compsci
2 months ago

Why is it at odds it’s only closed to people that aren’t your people…Pretty simple really you invite those who are like-minded and you keep out those who would wreck your Community…It’s only possible to keep out those if you have enough like-minded to do so…

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Lineman
2 months ago

There is some sort of model community, nice looking, and everyone is friendly. Forget that. Give me a community of people like me, make it look like crap and a very dangerous place at the periphery, and give me neighbors who snarl like angry dogs if outsiders approach. I think we can make something out of that.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  b123
2 months ago

The whiter the area, the more shrill their screaming.

I drive through a farming community on the way to the park where I like to trail run.

There are five houses with BLM signs, two with Biden signs, and only one Trump sign.

Fools.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

I’ve seen the same, but those are closely watched neighbors.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

I noticed this too, they think the orcs will never come to the shire. We’re looking at moving to the “shire” ourselves (found a deal too good to pass up), but I need to tell them that the state is out of off-ramps to escape to: this is it. Even the next ramp up, which is 45 minutes outside of the Big City, had blacks wandering around what passed for a city center there.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

I have seen a total of 3 BLM signs in my middle class white nabe, but dozens of American flags and signs supporting cops, first responders, Trump, etc. This is normcon central and the race traitors are badly outnumbered and outgunned.

Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 months ago

Go for walks.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Spin geraht
2 months ago

Every day. No Biden signs either, BTW…

Deana
Deana
Reply to  b123
2 months ago

I read a report the other day about how residents of Chicago are fleeing the city due to the unrest and violence. The reporter interviewed a woman who is moving far out into the suburbs. In what can only be described as pathological cognitive dissonance, the woman said she could no longer take the crime, violence and unpredictability of living in the city so she was moving out, even though she still very much supports BLM. How can someone arrive at this point? How can one not see that there is a link to these two events? I can’t even… Read more »

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Deana
2 months ago

well, she might be lying about her blm support. just throwing it out there without any real fervor. maybe. who knows. most people are willfully ignorant AKA comfortably numb.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Deana
2 months ago

She was talking to a reporter. First, I wouldn’t do that anyway. And if for some reason you had to, why wouldn’t you tell the Politburo what it wanted to hear?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

It may be to turn their own supporters into refugees to infest the rest of the nation with their twisted politics.

I think this is correct. It’s a demographic pincer movement to turn purple areas blue and red areas purple via one pincer of goodwhites fleeing the cities and another of immigrants flooding in from the Third World.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

Perhaps Trump (intentionally or not) contributed to this by limiting the deduction of state and local taxes.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

Agree. Fleeing urbans are the new Replacement Migration.

Why do population relocation a la Stalin when you can get them to do it themselves?

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

Insightful . . . and disturbingly true.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

This. My suburb has been transformed from a constant influx of third world immigrants and blue state refugees. I’m constantly exhorted to consider all the Han, pajeet, mestizos, Iranians, Californians, and Katrina noggers to be my ‘community.’ I refuse to donate to hurricane relief for the rest of Texas unless I can insure it goes to Whites only (so my ‘charitable’ giving has been $0 for a number of years). Texas is over, folks. Don’t look this way for any political sanity or resistance.

b123
b123
Reply to  3g4me
2 months ago

There’s nowhere for whitey to go unless he wants to live in a rural or mountain area. Even then, if it’s determined that a rural area is meant for a diverse subdivision it will simply be paved over.

It’s for the best. The goodwhites in Toronto are feeling the squeeze too. The darkness is encroaching and all non whites + goodwhites dislike them.

I don’t white flight because it doesn’t change anything.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  3g4me
2 months ago

Dang. Got a house in Dallas, Central California, and a ways below Ferguson (St. Louis).

Lineman might have the last laugh after all.

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Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

To busy to be laughing Brother…

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

I know there’s some good people there, but if we’re talking the “banana belt,” my magic 8-ball says Outlook not so good.
They’ve got direct flights from San Jose to Missoula and a likely permanent shift to telework in the tech industry. That sort of capital is unlimited, and its flow is inexorable.
This is what you call the writing on the wall.
Unless you put a wall up at the Ravalli County line (which I would support), the Bitterroot is most likely toast. Hate to say it, but there it is.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Vegetius
2 months ago

Do you live here because if you did then you wouldn’t be saying that…It’s great fun though to take pot shots at someone on your side? that is trying to do something…If people actually had the courage to meet f2f then maybe there would be a little more civility online…

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lineman
2 months ago

I sometimes wonder if the black pill salesmen are AWR plants posting here to try to demoralize us. If so, it isn’t working on me.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 months ago

I won’t call them plants but Conservatism even the mainstream kind is packed with people with the loser mentality.
Sam Francis called these guys Beautiful Losers.
I’m not as generous, they are weaklings and cowards who want the benefits of leave me along Conservatism without paying the cost in treasure, risk and blood.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  abprosper
2 months ago

It’s within their right to think we’re all doomed; I just wish they’d keep their hash-traps clamped about it.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 months ago

Me too.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  3g4me
2 months ago

Points west of Ft. Worth and northwest of Austin are still in pretty good shape. That area could link up with Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, the Dakotas and the states of the northern Rockies to form a potent ethnostate.

Mis(ter)Anthrope
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 months ago

People from Kansas, Nebraska, and the Dakota are very different from rural Okies and Texans. They are nice people up there, but see where that got Minnesota.

Rural Okies and Texans are different. They are generally friendly, but not very trusting of outsiders.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 months ago

There are probably a hundred plus million people on our side. We can do better than shoving ourselves into the middle of the country and in a land with a dying aquifer.
Rightfully it all belongs to us and our long term goal should be CONUS to Canada all under our flag, with our people and our rules. A Nation built for the long haul, cognizant of decline and built to be a great place to have a family.
It is an achievable goal if not by us than by our numerous grand children.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  abprosper
2 months ago

The ethnostate will have an abundance of natural resources. Being landlocked is a bit of a concern, but it hasn’t hurt the likes of Switzerland, Austria and Hungary too much.

Ararat
Ararat
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 months ago

Consider Armenia. Constantly attacked by neighbors for 6,000 years.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 months ago

Its better to have oceanic assets and there are 6 million Trump voters, many our guys in California alone.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  abprosper
2 months ago

And they will flock to Whiteland when it is established, strengthening us even more.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  abprosper
2 months ago

Yes definitely but we have to start somewhere and it wouldn’t be long before people would be trying to take what we built so it would be war and once it starts then we can drive them from our shores…

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 months ago

Point. Go to the NW part of the state and up into the panhandle, small towns, and you could do okay. I still think even there would be suboptimal, given the climate and water issues.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  3g4me
2 months ago

If you’re addicted to that Metromess humidity, you certainly wouldn’t like the climate in West Texas.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

I think you’re right. The emphasis used to be on Agenda 21 (or was it 13?) about moving everyone into the cities. I think that was found to be unworkable in the West and so they’re now forcing the woke out to infect the countryside. They figure you won’t want to shoot your blue-haired neighbor in front of xir kids. Either way, same result – utterly commingled population which makes door-to-door conflict much more likely.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

or, the blue states will lose representatives, and their (leaving) populations will be diluted harmlessly in the vast red state area. eventually, over time, their ancestors may return to normal levels of intelligence.

Cherub
Cherub
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

“It may be to turn their own supporters into refugees to infest the rest of the nation with their twisted politics.”

Yuo may be onto something here as this is what is occurring and has been occurring. We are seeing it locally, too, as NYC refugees move into our Red country. They waste no time fomenting unrest, decrying the locals as their usual strawmen, and calling for the creation of new “civil rights” entities.

Oh, they do seem to immediately attach to the local theater group people.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

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TomA
TomA
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

Simple, secret, solo, and spontaneous. It’s the only way to be sure.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

This leads us to ask why, exactly, has the Ruling Class decided to go full Khmer Rouge on the cities?”

They’re “destroying the village to save it”.

That strategy will work as well this time as it did 50+ years ago on the other sid eof the world. But stupid is as stupid does.

The take away should be that these people are insane idiots and they’re going to immolate themselves – in spite of (maybe even because of) all the advantages they have. So b eof good cheer.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
2 months ago

The great ideological plagues of the 20th century, fascism and marxism, originate with Rousseau and the French Revolution.

Are there any good books on what the founders thought of the Revolution and its extremists? That would be a good start on what they would think of our current situation.

FrenchRoyalist
FrenchRoyalist
Reply to  Tykebomb
2 months ago

OK Hannity

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Tykebomb
2 months ago

Jefferson was ambassador to France 1784-89 and was friendly with many of the early leaders. His opponents enjoyed hanging that around his neck.

Thomas Paine was a full-blown Jacobin and only kept his head because of the Thermidorian Reaction.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Tykebomb
2 months ago

The Rousseauean myth of the Noble Savage has done incredible damage to our civilization, and is an extremely effective lever for pushing us into a new Dark Age.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

A New Dark Age was absolutely inevitable as cheap energy ran out. Our societies were never going to go on “happy motoring” with atom powered cars or cheap fusion.
What is a shame is the lust for cheap labor imported so many non Western people that the level of social strife will make what be a gradual catabolic collapse into something much worse than it needed to be,

Dave
Dave
Reply to  abprosper
2 months ago

Industrial society is dying not for lack of energy or raw materials but for lack of people smart enough to operate it. Idiocracy was a documentary, folks.

Cheap energy led to cheap food, which removed natural selection from the equation of life and replaced it with female sexual selection, which is causing white people to evolve into violent imbeciles obsessed with sex and bling.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
2 months ago

> You see this in this post by a far-left activist working for the New York Times. The point of the post is to demonstrate that he will reject anything his enemy says, even when it is obvious fact.
Twenty years ago that article would be rejected for the opinion pages as hyperbolic and devoid of reasoned discourse.
Now it’s what passes for a normal news article.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 months ago

nothing new under the sun, that dude’s job is to parrot the elites, otherwise he’d be homeless

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  sentry
2 months ago

Exactly he is just a mouthpiece and a puppet for those running things… People sell their souls pretty cheaply these days…

whitney
Member
Reply to  Lineman
2 months ago

Well to be fair we have all completely reordered our lives and turned ourselves into the faceless masses without a shot ever being fired. I like the person that said “if you ever wondered whether you would comply or resist Hitler now you know. You would comply”

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  whitney
2 months ago

Well that person who said that is still lost in their delusions so I would take what they said with a grain of salt…

BTP
Member
2 months ago

Z-man getting the shout out from Normiecon Ace of Spades… It’s happening!

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  BTP
2 months ago

Kunstler, too, a lifetime Democrat like Vic Davis Hanson, has just declared war on his own party.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

You’re not implying VDH is a democrat, right?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Compsci
2 months ago

Democrat his whole life, I believe; his family home is the next burg over from mine, he taught at my town Cal Uni.

The Party left him some time ago.

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Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  BTP
2 months ago

Ace has been moving our way for a while.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Dutch
2 months ago

He is fascinating to watch. 1/2 of the site is, “We’re at war, be prepared to slit throats!” while the other half is, “Dems are the real racists who oppose the Judaeo-christian West and who don’t care about the based black conservative.”

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  BTP
2 months ago

Keep in mind that Ace and his people are either hind-brain emotional thinkers who get all riled up about things, or choose to cultivate the hind-brain emotional thinking in their readers in order to pump up the number of clicks. AoS is a good place in which to take the pulse of things, but not much good for trying to find solutions.

Wat solutions
Wat solutions
Reply to  Dutch
2 months ago

What solutions?
The Right is far more delusional than the Left.
The Left exists and knows it, the Right doesn’t exist but dreams its a secret Army.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Dutch
2 months ago

Z-man has been featured/quoted the ONT several times. It’s what first led me here.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  KGB
2 months ago

Z’s quoted on the 30th-ish.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  BTP
2 months ago

Link? I don’t find any mention on http://ace.mu.nu/

BTP
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 months ago

Sunday ONT.

White people who kill in self-defense get charged with capital murder, while blacks who kill for sport are allowed to go free. You see, the former is exercising white privilege and is guilty of being white. The latter, on the other hand, is the victim of white privilege and is justifiably angry. In post-reality America, privilege means being stripped of your rights and dignity

Spicy for Ace

Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
2 months ago

Imagine all of the hard work, ingenuity, and intelligence that went into developing the American system and then imagine it being completely torn down in less than 100 years.

On the other side of this, Ill be curious to see if we have what it takes to “break the wheel”. If i live to see the other side that is.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Irishfarmer
2 months ago

The Founders present an interesting paradox. Everybody says they were brilliant, this collection of miracle-men who gave us this amazing idea for governing, but the whole thing turned in to a bloodbath in a couple generations. The Roman republic didn’t kill itself in 80 years. Hell, the French monarchy lasted 1,000 years. The French!

Maybe, just maybe, these guys weren’t that good. Maybe a concept for the state that can’t last 100 years before being a complete failure isn’t a very good concept.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  BTP
2 months ago

They seemed to understand that theirs was a noble experiment in the distribution of political power downward, and using checks and balances to block concentrations of political power. Perhaps they rightly understood that geographic isolation from TPTB of the time, along with a mostly moral and intelligent population, added up to an opportunity to try things. I don’t think they would be too surprised at what we have devolved into over time.

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
Reply to  Dutch
2 months ago

The US founders were high status Deists and Masons. I can only imagine what it must have been like to be a smart guy in a brand new country with all the farmland, water, coal, iron, etc. anybody could ever need. The iconography and architecture of the early Republic is blatantly triumphalist; they clearly thought they had established a new, populist Rome. In their minds, they had truly started a “new order for the ages,” in contrast to the Old World, with its sclerotic aristocracy and church. As you note, it could only last so long as the country had… Read more »

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  BTP
2 months ago

When it comes to the Founders, our side has a tendency to confuse “works” with “works as originally intended.”

The fact is that the 1787 Constitution worked as long as it governed a country of Northern European demographics.

b123
b123
Reply to  MemeWarVet
2 months ago

And yet the northern European demographic is incapable of maintaining their own system for themselves. Either way, it fails.

BTP
Member
Reply to  b123
2 months ago

Exactly.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  b123
2 months ago

No civilization lasts forever. Let’s not act like surviving 10 generations is the equivalent of surviving one. It makes persuadable people take us less seriously.

brunob
brunob
Reply to  b123
2 months ago

lysander spooner was saying the same thing 100+ years ago. i wonder whether the continued degradation would have been a surprise to him.

BTP
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
2 months ago

I think the War of Northern Aggression proves otherwise.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  BTP
2 months ago

Did functioning government cease to exist in the South after 1865? (And yes, I’m quite familiar with Reconstruction).

See my original point.

BTP
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
2 months ago

Well, you’ve just proved out current situation is working, also. You can see my original point.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  BTP
2 months ago

The WoNA is another cost of the Diversity Tax and “foreign influence”. No Africans, no war. No foreign labor unbalancing and impoverishing the European settlers’ wage economy, by the (((owners))) who brought them, sold them, owned them, loaned off them, and used their outsize wage-free profits to buy the best Delta land and gain control of America’s biggest industry, King Cotton, and the supply and finance that serviced it. For instance, once California farmers started hiring Mexican labor to replace Okie labor, our brown slide was inevitable. It wasn’t the poor Scots-Irish or bankrupt French building synagogues in Charleston, Rhode… Read more »

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Drake
Drake
Reply to  BTP
2 months ago

“A Republic if you can keep it”

They knew that the government would be no better than the people. We’re getting what we deserve.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Drake
2 months ago

Yep, but then again, we’re not the “people” we were at the time of the founding of the United States. Things are going downhill pretty much in direct correlation with population miscegenation–if I can use that term in a population race mixing/diversity context. Not a complete explanation, but but one I’ve lived through in a long life experience.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Drake
2 months ago

It wouldn’t have survived the industrial age even without the first civil war.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  BTP
2 months ago

The Roman Republic didn’t have African slavery.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  MBlanc46
2 months ago

But Gladiator had a black guy!

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  MemeWarVet
2 months ago

They did have African slaves. Its not the same thing as slavery was a “could happen to anyone” even Julius Caesar and wasn’t the same chattel system.
US Slavery wasn’t uniquely evil but it was fracking stupid.
No cheap labor for big concerns. That is what killed the Republic, greed and the religious fervor of the puritans.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  BTP
2 months ago

It was a good concept when the white boys ran it.. Now it’s monkeys runnin the zoo.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Irishfarmer
2 months ago

We have the collapse of America as a perfect object lesson for the formation of the ethnostate.

sentry
sentry
2 months ago

the partisans cannot accept covid death counts were overblown, because they think it is supporting their enemies.
I don’t even try to convince people covid pandemic is media induced, because the folk I interact with think the same way, only snobs buy into it, those people who think masses are a bunch of idiots who do not appreciate the saintly medical elite, just like with liberals who despise all who do not care about their agenda.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  sentry
2 months ago

Argument is futile with people this psychologically damaged.

Exile
Exile
2 months ago

There is no faction or even an individual among the ruling class that looks upon populism with credible sympathy. At best we have a few optics-minded lapdogs like Michael Anton who are warning their fellow apparatchiks that they need to lower their profile and pretend a little more. As to time & necessity forcing a realistic decision on the part of we proles who are indeed on our own, let’s consider what the proles have learned to live with in the past 10 years alone. On the Social Front: the elevation of homosexuality to moral superiority, gay marriage, gay Congressmen… Read more »

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Exile
2 months ago

Something you advise a lot may seem insignificant but it is among the most important things: have a supply of freshwater. Cutting off freshwater and electricity to dissidents has become all the rage. People who have lagged behind on everything else need to do this one thing today. Even rainwater barrels are preferable to total reliance on any municipal water supply.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

I live a couple of blocks from Lake Michigan. I have potent water purification, not mere filtering, and mass storage. Quagga mussels purify the lake water enough as it is. We’ll be fine in terms of refreshing, sustaining drink here.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
2 months ago

Aye, I live a couple blocks from Lake Erie and have family that live on the shoreline. Water won’t be a problem. As you said, the zebra mussel, whatever its drawbacks, has made a dramatic difference in the clarity of the water in the decades since I was a kid.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  KGB
2 months ago

You can see straight to the bottom in some locales, just like in the tropical islands. Formerly hidden shipwrecks are now visible to the naked eye. Problem being, long chains of algael blooms that die off in the heat and stink up the place. At least we don’t experience the mass alewive die-offs I remember as a kid. Get rid of the algae and the lampreys and we’re golden.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
2 months ago

A couple blocks in a war is miles in peacetime…Might want to read up on Selco…

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Lineman
2 months ago

Have read the works of Selco and other survivalists, both urban and rural.

It’s great that you have a creek running down from the snow caps directly through your property. Just ensure you have a fire team backing you up against ambush every time you go with Jill to fetch a pail of water out there in rural ‘merica.

And I’ll take care of me and mine.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
2 months ago

I don’t even have to step out of my house to get water so you don’t have to worry about me getting ambushed…Don’t let the love of money and comfort be the death of you…

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Lineman
2 months ago

Believe me, we discuss fleeing. I love the territory where you live. It’s difficult but for now we’ll stay, be gray, and if necessary fight. I have prepped for many years, although imperfectly. And it’s difficult to vet allies here but they do exist. We have other water sources, including city lines on the lower levels of buildings provided they remain pressurized, sumps even if unpressurized, fire hydrants, fountains, snow and ice, rain catchments, a zoo with seal tanks, and closer lagoons. But if unguarded, I know concealed paths to Lake Michigan and this would be our optimal choice. If… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
2 months ago

You as well Brother just keep your options open like come out and visit maybe you could have a bug out spot out here that was taken care of until you needed it… Your one of the good ones so just want to keep you alive and not have your death be in vain…Also just a word of caution I’ve worked in Chicago and back then their infrastructure needed lots of improvement I don’t know how it is now…

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Photo Taken Tonight
Photo Taken Tonight
Reply to  Lineman
2 months ago
Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

Yes logistics are one thing that is overlooked by many, even on our side…

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Exile
2 months ago

gay Congressmen openly adopting their rent-boys

This is the chairman of the Danish Conservative Party with his to-be wife, who is from the Dominican Republic.
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Oh, wait, they got divorced already! I wonder why the Conservative Party is fighting to even maintain a representation in parliament.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 months ago

Gak!

Information Starved
Information Starved
2 months ago

“Here we have the CDC posting updated information on the coronavirus…”
Z Man, did you mean to link to a story here? If so, you failed to do so.

longerred
longerred
2 months ago

Rand Paul is proof Republicans are the real victims. In his case being a victim is a career.

Irate Iyaad
Irate Iyaad
Reply to  longerred
2 months ago

I know it’s schadenfreude, but I couldn’t help but laugh at her assault. The bitch whored herself out for corporate tax breaks, then those corporations funneled the money saved right back into the people that assaulted her! What a beautiful poetic irony.

Rand Paul is a microcosm of the nuthouse that is the GOP.

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
2 months ago

Onion-like news irony of the day: “Overall crime has not spiked in the city, but shootings have, Police Department data shows.” Good to know that a pedestrian can walk from his apartment down the street, step over the homeless man sprawled on the pavement, hardly notice the floating crap game in the alley a block from his home, enter the subway, ride the train unaccosted to downtown, not even being distrubed by the passed-out vagrant in the car, and suffered no assaut from the “youths” selling drugs in the park, etc. Just an ordinary day in the big city…
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/nyregion/nyc-suburbs-housing-demand.html

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 months ago

The shooters were “mostly peaceful”.

Cloud People
Cloud People
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 months ago

Crime stats have been manipulated and hidden for so long that the only reliable barometer of how violent a city is is its homicide rate. Bodies can’t be hidden. Robberies and carjackings and rapes and burglaries and assaults can. So if a city has a high homicide rate, it’s safe to assume its other categories of violent crime are also out of control. If New York has a surge in shootings, we all know it has a surge in all other crime too. New York is going back to the 1970s, and good riddance. The only downside is all the… Read more »

Hun
Hun
2 months ago

At some point the numbers get adjusted back to something closer to reality.

When hell freezes over.Too much has been invested in the inflated numbers. Even if the CDC explicitly states that 94% of the deaths were due to other causes, it will be ignored and everybody who dares to mention it in arguments will be labeled a conspiracy theorist.

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Hun
2 months ago

How does one conclude the deaths were due to other causes? If no Covid infection to push that person over the edge, then one must assume that the person would have lived out his remaining years–shortened as they would be due to their co-morbidity. Covid is a contributing cause and has shortened a life.

Where this “new” revelation comes into play would be redirect our resources toward protecting those with co-morbidity, while assuring the 99% of the population that they can return to society and enjoy life without fear. Of course, I’m preaching to the choir here.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Compsci
2 months ago

In some cases, people whose comorbidity was a bullet hole in the skull were still counted as Covid.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
2 months ago

We also don’t know that Covid pushed these people over the edge. And, in the cases where it did, we cannot say how much lifespan was lost. Perhaps years, but also perhaps weeks.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Compsci
2 months ago

How is it concluded the death total wasn’t derived from the average annual death total in the US? Genuinely curious as the American fatality rate attributed to Wuflu is excessively high compared to other countries.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
2 months ago

I suspect that it’s more likely that they replace us with Mexicans and .Indians.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
2 months ago

The arguments used to replace the Articles of Confederation were overblown.

Valley Lurker
Reply to  skeptic16
2 months ago

Before I made it to this side of the divide, I used to encounter this a lot more it seems. The whole “but the United States wouldn’t exist if we had kept the articles!” never resonated with me. My amazing counter push back of “So what?” never seemed to resonate in return, but people couldn’t conceive of different nations resembling the continent being allowed to flower, as if being across the ocean came with a different obligated end point.

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
2 months ago

Irreconcileable differences. There you have it. The only questions remaining to be settled are how amicable the divorce will be and how the property will be divided. It’d be nice if the split would be amicable, but I forsee a long, drawn-out bloody battle with both parties suffering much more so than if they had just agreed on separate dwellings. They say only lawyers win in divorce court. Applied to a nation, our lawyers are of course our rulers. They do, indeed, profit on dividing, conquering and extracting their fees from us. Perhaps part of the final settlement, should it… Read more »

Jeb's Turtles
Jeb's Turtles
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 months ago

The first question is who gets to keep the kids.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 months ago

Didn’t we try this 150 years ago? I think there are additional questions to be settled than the ones you mention.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 months ago

Well put. I don’t think that they will let us go peacefully because they think that they can crush us and they don’t think that we can crush them. They might be right. It would take a lot of successfully executed violence by us to convince them to let us leave.

Guest
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2 months ago

We are at war. America has been in a cultural civil war since the sixties. Politics is downstream of culture, so it’s not surprising that our political civil war started heating up a generation or two later, after the cultural changes had time to percolate through the institutions that groom our youth. The political civil war is now upon us. Teams on the first civil war were defined by the Mason-Dixon line. This time there will be no Mason-Dixon line to demarcate team boundaries. Instead it will be defined by the geographic Red/Blue divide reflected in a political map of… Read more »

Jack Dobson