Death From Above

Imagine a small kingdom that is faced with a disease outbreak of unknown origin and unknown severity. The king, upon being briefed by his staff, gives a speech to his people informing them of what is known and what efforts are being made to determine the severity of the disease. He asks his people to take reasonable precautions, as they would during the cold and flu season. As more information is gathered, he will inform the public so they can act accordingly.

As it becomes clear that the disease is hard on the very old and very sick, but not much of a threat to everyone else, efforts are made to insulate the very old and those in nursing homes. The public is informed of this and told to be extra cautious around the very old and very sick. Resources are made available to those charged with caring for the very old and sick. Otherwise, the public is asked to go about their business as they would in the cold and flu season.

This probably sounds completely insane to most people, but it used to be the way rulers handled public health matters. In the Asian Flu and Hong Kong flu outbreaks last century, the public was informed and reasonable precautions were taken by local government to limit the impact. Schools might be closed for a few weeks until the wave passed through a community, for example. The flu came and went, as they always do, with a varying degrees of impact on communities.

Of course, this was not the case with the Covid pandemic. Instead of doing what has always been done, our rulers rushed to the nearest television camera and told everyone they are going to die. Hairy old men in sundresses were sent out to scare the public and not just over the idea of mentally disturbed men in sundresses being put in charge of public health. No, their job was to convince the public that this is the end times and that everyone must lock themselves at home.

Not only was it not the end times, but it is looking like what skeptics have been saying all along, a tougher than normal flu season. The CDC has updated their kill data, adjusting the death toll down a modest 94%. Just six percent of deaths can actually be attributed to Covid. That’s about ten thousand people. The rest were afflicted with other diseases that were likely to kill them. Covid may have hastened their demise, but that is speculation. William Briggs has a good summary of the new data.

The long and short of it for those looking for the condensed version is that Covid by itself is not much of a threat to most people. Even old healthy people are not particularly vulnerable to this virus. It is the very old and the very sick, especially the very sick, who are at risk of this disease. In fact, the man-made panic may very well have killed more people than the disease itself. Think about all of the health care not being done due to closing hospitals and doctor’s offices.

Now, the obvious push-back will be that we did not know six months ago that this disease would not live up to the promise. The panic was a necessary precaution against the possibility of a much more lethal disease. The implication here is that we must assume the worst-case scenario in every instance and react accordingly. The fact that the worst case is also the rarest case, means we have to operate as if the natural world is nothing but exceptions, a world of miracles.

Even if one wants to turn the precautionary principle on its head this way, we had enough data early on to know it was not going to be the Black Death. Data from Italy and China showed that Covid was a killer of the very old and the very sick. The early models used to justify the panic were invalidated from the start. as far back as April, the justifications for the panic were undermined by what we knew. There was never a good reason to do what has been done in response to Covid.

The bottom line in all of this is the man-made panic has done more damage to American society than the virus. There are the unnecessary deaths and suicides that were caused by the panic. There is the massive transfer of wealth from small business to corporate giants. This will accelerate the decline in social capital, accelerating the decline in local community. The Covid Panic is not the Xhosa Cattle Killing cult, at least not yet, but the comparison is too obvious to ignore.

Perhaps the most important take-away from this man-made disaster is that none of the people responsible for it will be held accountable. In a sane world, there would at least be a truth and reconciliation commission, where the people responsible would explain themselves and ask for mercy. Instead, these people peddling panic will face no consequences and no doubt profit from their crimes. They won’t even have the decency to admit they were wrong about the severity of the disease.

Finally, this is example six million that the people in charge of America are too corrupt and incompetent to perform the basic duties of rule. In order to live something close to a normal life, Americans have to navigate around a thicket of pirates, bandits and incompetent bureaucrats all looking to rob the public. Slathered onto that is a ruling class ham-handedly addressing problems of their own creation. American are being strangled by an anaconda of incompetence from above.

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Damian
Damian
21 days ago

I’m not a medical professional by an means but I’ve had malaria and typhoid numerous times, so I guess I’ve been on the receiving end. So there is no current vaccine for malaria, so the solution is to take a prophylactic to reduce the symptoms if you get it. Once gotten, then an injection of quinine or coatem pills will sort you out in a couple of days. For me I was in South Sudan for 3 1/2 years, so I didn’t take a prophylactic due to the side affects. When I got malaria I just bedded down and self… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Damian
21 days ago

I found it funny the other day when Russia announced they had a vaccine, to see all the pro-vaccine people in the west suddenly turn on a dime and become anti-vaxxers due to it being a Russian one and not ‘theirs’.
russians are particularly skilled at trolling globo homos. My guess is russian vaccine is placebo, assuming it exists.

bob sykes
Reply to  sentry
21 days ago

The Russians did not announce a vaccine, as widely reported. They did announce that they had a candidate that would undergo large-scale (third stage) testing.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  bob sykes
21 days ago

Vaccines certainly exist. The hard questions are: are they effective? Are they safe? I’m a layman, but by all reports, there is plenty of reason to doubt that (1) is true, or even can be true 🙁

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
21 days ago

I will take my polio vaccine any day.

Tim from Nashua
Tim from Nashua
Reply to  sentry
21 days ago

Big Pharma could bring out a saline solution and market it as the Wuhan Virus Vaccine, and be as effective as the flu vaccines.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tim from Nashua
21 days ago

Harsh, but in all fairness not exactly dissimilar to what my family MD said a couple years ago during an office visit.

Vizzini
Reply to  Damian
21 days ago

Just curious, but what on Earth could entice you to spend 3 1/2 years in South Sudan? I would have quit my job if they wanted to send me there for any length of time.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Vizzini
21 days ago

I’m guessing he was making good money as an expat in the oil industry.

Normally, one gets foreign premium, hazard pay, and tax exemptions as incentives.

Damian
Damian
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
21 days ago

Not O&G but good money, tax free and living expenses paid.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Damian
21 days ago

And all the grubs you can eat.

Damian
Damian
Reply to  Vizzini
21 days ago

Good point. We all asked ourselves the same question many times. In summary I’m a former soldier so not unaccustomed to hardship. I was an officer in the Royal Engineers, and my specific role was bomb disposal. So I spent my time there running a project clearing landmines. Hard work, but to be fair it was rewarding and fun to work in a frontier country with no real law and order. But two years after I finished, they decided to have a civil war so that was really 3 1/2 years work down the drain. I then returned to the… Read more »

Hairy
Member
Reply to  Damian
21 days ago

Living in the 3rd world and then watching them follow you back home is the ultimate red pill.

b123
b123
Reply to  Hairy
21 days ago

My biggest redpill experience was leaving a goodwhite area and having to deal with 3rd world sludge on a daily basis. It’s pretty clear that 1) we aren’t the same 2) they hate us – they hate each other but they all hate whitey more and 3) feel entitled to white money and white people in general. I’ve taken on some of their traits though. I can now easily “smell” who’s a sucker and who’s not (low trust culture). Surprise surprise whites and especially Boomers are the biggest suckers ever. No wonder the 3rd worlders don’t respect us. They smell… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  b123
21 days ago

this reminds me of Old Testament jews, many accuse Old Testament God for being too harsh, but if God wouldn’t harshly punish jews they wouldn’t respect Him.
The lesson is to be harsh to non whites for their own good. Make them fear you.

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  sentry
21 days ago

I’ve never interpreted most of these stories as God “punishing”, but rather letting the evil of the Jews breaking the commandments and turning away from the Word to run it’s course. This usually was enough to bring them back into the fold (compliance) after they suffered their due consequences.

Vizzini
Reply to  Damian
21 days ago

That makes sense. Same thing that enticed my son to do five combat tours in that godforsaken shithole, Afghanistan.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Damian
21 days ago

The media’s gymnastics is Orwellian.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
21 days ago

Their propaganda is infinitely more retarded than what Orwell described.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
21 days ago

Orwell has a great essay about this in the road to Wigan Pier, chapter 12, about the goal of safety in mechanical progress and ultimately the historic Virtues Of Man are given way to new virtues because bravery and strength et al are no longer necessary. We see it now with the virtues of obedience and compliance rising to dominance.

“A machine evolves by becoming more efficient, that is, more foolproof; hence the objective of mechanical progress is a foolproof world—which may or may not mean a world inhabited by fools.”

Mikep
Mikep
Reply to  whitney
21 days ago

A foolproof world is nothing but a pipe dream. The fools will always up their game and rise to the challenge.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Damian
21 days ago

The West shrieked about the potential Russian Vax because it could deny Gilead tens of billions in profit if it worked.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
21 days ago

Bingo. And that’s even with the government footing the bill to the vaccine companies for their costs. As we speak, these companies *are* producing vaccine in conjunction with trials. If the trials pan out, the vaccine is ready for distribution. If not, then down the drain it goes. But in any event, when the shot cost is in the $100+ dollar range, don’t let them justify it via their sunk cost of development.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Damian
21 days ago

I spent half a year in Sri Lanka, some of it hiking up jungle mountains and studying swampy coconut plantations. I did take my Chloroquine while I was there. Never got malaria.
That stuff is sold like aspirin there – the only reason it was banned here was to clear the way for vaccines and $1,000 a dose failed Aids drugs.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Drake
21 days ago

$1,000 a dose failed Aids drugs”-
that couldn’t be a reference to the ‘azt poisoning’ scam by the galaxy-brain Fauci, could it?

His eagerly forgotten scheme may have killed more aids patients than aids.

By the way, he holds the medical research patents on 4 glycoproteins essential to engineering aids to the corona virus, which is what they were doing at the Wuhan lab that he built and directed.

Amazingly, global vaccine sales would make him a billionaire.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
21 days ago

Fauci, and Brix’s daughter, also hold positions at the Gates Foundation.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Damian
21 days ago

Yes, even I’ve heard about the claimed front-line treatment for COVID: Zpack, zinc and the malaria (?) drug. Whether or not there is a valid basis for this, I don’t know. But if Trump was on it earlier, there may be science behind it. We can accept all of his tweets at face value 🙂 Vaccines: I have long taken them — those that were routine and well tested. I’m not an “anti-vaxxer” by any means. But with the COVID-19 ones? No thanks! I will do without until they have a record of efficacy and safety — something notably absent,… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
21 days ago

Everyone nay saying you direct them to research the great “swine flu” panic in the Ford/Carter years. The vaccine touted produced a rare syndrome of paralysis which was undetected in the small safety trials of the time, but in large scale mass vaccination, produced hundreds of cases. Suddenly, the vaccine was removed from distribution and the “flu” of the season deemed not so bad. I’m not an anti-vaxxer either, but I’m not so arrogant as to make fun of those who hesitate to be first in line for these things, or feel 40+ recommended vaccines might be a bit too… Read more »

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Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  Compsci
21 days ago

There is nothing wrong with being an anti-Vaxxer.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Liberty Mike
21 days ago

Depends on the vax. Lots of diseases have been wiped out by vaccines developed back when medicine wasn’t political, or propaganda.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jim Smith
21 days ago

Agreed. But vaccines should never be compulsory.

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  Jim Smith
21 days ago

There is overwhelming anecdoctal evidence of parents bringing their children home forever changed after a trip to the pediatrician and the vaccinations administered therefrom. In a sane society, these experiences would be more than enough to mandate studies on the subject. But that might interfere with pharmaceutical profits, so the suits in Political Slutville keep their legs wide open and the doors shut to any investigation.
So while masks are worn to signal extreme virtuousness during the pandemic that never really was, no one sheds a tear for the innocents sentenced to the dungeon of autism.

Last edited 21 days ago by WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  Jim Smith
21 days ago

The Great Plague(s) of 2020 has killed off my remaining faith in ANY of our institutions, medical science being one. I’ve been skeptical of the intelligence and probity of the white coated baboons for many years but their complete (and continued) dereliction of duty in warning us of the political character of the virus response forces me to accept that almost all must be a) stupid, b) evil, c) cowardly, or my favorite –> d) all of the above.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Compsci
21 days ago

I am a selfless guy, so I will let the politicians and BLM/Antifa protesters get COVID-19 vaccinated first.

Roberto
Roberto
Reply to  c matt
21 days ago

Once all the public health and infectious disease docs, as well as their wives and kids get it, i’ll consider it.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
21 days ago

I remember reading way back in March that some lab in Kali had produced at least a first pass at a covid vaccine within days of samples of the virus arriving in the U.S. but the CDC quashed it because THEY hadn’t been the one to produce it (something I, for one, found entirely credible.). I also recall reading that something about coronaviruses makes producing vaccines difficult. Something about a promising vaccine for SARS (an earlier corona virus rev) causing some sort of potentially lethal immune over reaction called a “cytokine storm” or “cytokine cascade”? Anyhow any talk of treatment… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Damian
21 days ago

Sounds like you’ve lived enuf for three men, lol.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  SidVic
21 days ago

Stout lad. I am sick with envy.

At the turn of the last century, all it took to control the vast Sudan was 200 Englishmen.

(British subjects, bilejones. You all look alike to us macaroni-capped Yanks. No need to be cheeky.)

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usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Alzaebo
21 days ago

Battling the fuzzy-wuzzies.

Damian
Damian
Reply to  Alzaebo
20 days ago

I even had a pith helmet. In 2005 one of my mates was in the Nuba mountains also wearing a pith helmet. A very old man came running towards him shouting ‘thank God you’re back. The country has turned to shit since you left’. My friend had to apologise to him and explain that he was only there with the UN (useless nohopers)

Damian
Damian
Reply to  SidVic
20 days ago

Thank you.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Damian
21 days ago

Ask a committed evolutionist about group differences. Evolution goes out the window and god or nature created us entirely exactly the same.

They don’t “believe in science™” or “rationality” or any of that BS. They believe in whatever backs their ideological beliefs.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Damian
21 days ago

Funny you should mention malaria. If memory serves, way back in March there were reports of possible – PROMISING – treatments involving synthetic quinine. I also seem to remember that said quinine related drugs were considered essential elements of the materials to be carried in the Dr bag of any physician going to a 3rd world country. Then President Trump tweeted in support of the regimen. Talk about turning on a dime!!! All of a sudden hydroxychloroquine is an absolutely EVIL, DANGEROUS KILLER COMPOUND!!! The upstart is something we’ve known all along. “ORANGE MAN BAD!!!” prevails and whatever he supports/endorses… Read more »

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Damian
Damian
Reply to  Bill Mullins
20 days ago

Yes. Trump should tweet against suicide.

Mikep
Mikep
Reply to  Damian
21 days ago

Sounds reasonable, however it assumes competence on the part of those responsible for public health policy. Sadly all the evidence suggests otherwise.

T. Morris
T. Morris
21 days ago

Now, the obvious push-back will be that we did not know six months ago that this disease would not live up to the promise. The panic was a necessary precaution against the possibility of a much more lethal disease. There won’t be any pushback to speak of; there won’t need to be any since everyone is convinced that COVID is the “monster killer” they were told it was six months ago, and in spite of the CDC’s newly adjusted numbers. Heck, TPTB are already warning about the upcoming “twin-demic.” That is to say, if I understood correctly the other day… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  T. Morris
21 days ago

everyone is convinced that COVID is the “monster killer” they were told it was six months ago

It is incredible to me that, even as people are out and about, meeting friends and such, they still talk only about this virus thing as the end of the world – I think these people now just want to role play apocalypse; complete with moral repudiation of those who don’t go along with the new tenets of Covidism.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  OrangeFrog
21 days ago

The spiritual emptiness of whats left of western civ is truly remarkable. Lonely shallow people crave something visceral, an emotion that, for a change, might actually be attached to something real. People desperate for meaning in their lives will hang on to a thread. The covid gave them that thread. And attached it to the great orange man bad in t he sky. Covid and anti-racism, ivory and ebony together in perfect harmony. if not for Covaids, they would just be talking about tee vee shows and sportsball and what they just bought or are about to buy. The covaids… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Screwtape
21 days ago

That’s true – for a shallow and ridiculous people, the “pandemic” gave a sense of “purpose for a greater cause” that is otherwise lacking.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  OrangeFrog
21 days ago

Life must be really boring for these people that they’d go along with a manufactured disaster just to feel something. Walking dead.

It’s sick. When I see someone voluntarily wearing a mask, I know it’s a sign of their wickedness. When I think back on the panickers, I know they were afraid of holding up their end of the faustian bargain.

The deceiver sure got a hold of this country.

Suburban_elk
Reply to  Paintersforms
21 days ago

Life must be really boring for these people that they’d go along with a manufactured disaster just to feel something. Walking dead. The lives of the Whites who go along with it, are not so much “boring” as they are lacking in something more purposeful. Generally speaking, frantic and busy UMC White women r not bored, they are busy to the point of overwhelmed. But such busyness (which for awhile about 15 years ago had its own meme called “franticism”) does not do for their sense of purpose. Whereas covid compliance does. “I mean, we’re all this together, right?” —… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Suburban_elk
21 days ago

Well said, lack of purpose is a precise way of putting it.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  OrangeFrog
21 days ago

Well, why not role play? We live in clown world, where young white people are “LARPing” in the streets with live ammunition 🙁

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
21 days ago

Yes indeed. But the consequences are very real. Bodies will pile up. Buy your rifle and ammo, but learn how to use them. This is not a computer game with a “reset” button. Single round elimination so to speak. Pun intended.

Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  Compsci
21 days ago

Compsci, your comment merits an upvote because I like it when people affirmatively asseverate that they intended to employ a pun.

Conversely, I loathe the “no pun intended” assertion because it is often false and the person is actually signaling what a brilliant chap he is.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Liberty Mike
21 days ago

“No pun intended” is wry humor. I like it.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Liberty Mike
21 days ago

Not sure of how bright I am. Last I thought of it was during Dutton’s video where he described/defined “midwits”, I had to admit I resembled his description, so I’m keeping a low profile in that regard these days.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Liberty Mike
21 days ago

I like it when people use the word asseverate. I think there are seven of you.

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Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
21 days ago

they still talk … about this virus thing as the end of the world I am convinced that it WAS the “end of the world” – at least as we knew it. From where I sit the world as we knew it ended around supper time the 11th of March, 2020. Within just a few weeks we went from the lowest unemployment in my daughter’s lifetime (she turns 40 in December) to TENS OF MILLIONS out of work! We went from grocery store shelves being packed to some shelves being starkly empty. The meat aisle is but a shadow of… Read more »

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Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Bill Mullins
21 days ago

“The primary function of the healthcare system is employment for healthcare workers and profits for insurance companies”. Don’t forget entertaining America with the dancing TikTok nurses.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  T. Morris
21 days ago

The panic was never necessary. Z called that on day one.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  MemeWarVet
21 days ago

With a couple of exceptions in this group, most all called it. I might note that the salient information at that time *was* available from China, and then definitely confirmed in Italy. The age and co-morbidity aspects were known to the point that we could have directed resources to those identifiable groups.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  T. Morris
21 days ago

Our State governor and State chief medical officer have both come out and said that “sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander” wrt the incoming flu season. Commercials being broadcast to this effect widely. Specifically, precautions for the current Covid-19 epidemic will work for the flu season—and we need to ameliorate the upcoming flu to fight the COVID-19 epidemic. This of course is seen as a signal that the current quarantine and mask wearing mandates will continue indefinitely. Detractors in the media are now calling for civil disobedience. However, they are perplexed as to how to do such… Read more »

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  T. Morris
21 days ago

Unfortunately, around here I see people masking children under 10 years of age, a group which NEVER had a non-zero death rate. And I still see police tape around playground equipment. As if 1) children faced any significant risk from the virus and 2) this or any other virus could withstand exposure to the UV radiation from the sun. Of course the bastards also closed swimming pools (and water parks) as if the virus could withstand not only the UV from the sun but the high levels of chlorine found an any public pool. Hell! They increased chlorination levels of… Read more »

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Federalist
Federalist
21 days ago

…man-made panic may very well have killed more people than the disease itself. Think about all of the health care not being done due to closing hospitals and doctor’s offices.

Also, the panic likely caused deaths due to increased drug and alcohol abuse and suicide.
(ETA: Z Man mentioned suicide later in his post.)

Last edited 21 days ago by Federalist
Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Federalist
21 days ago

On the other hand, traffic deaths did decline and iatrogenic deaths will be lower.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
21 days ago

Iatrogenic: relating to illness caused by medical examination or treatment.

Not sure about that “lower” part.

Unnecessary intubation probably accounts for half of the adjusted covid deaths, since ventilators seem to kill the patient.

$39,000 payout for putting them on a ventilator. This was murder for hire.

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Mikep
Mikep
Reply to  Alzaebo
21 days ago

“Unnecessary intubation probably accounts for half of the adjusted covid deaths, since ventilators seem to kill the patient.”Yes, that’s the funnest part of the whole dismal business. I wonder how much of what’s happened since is an attempt by the medical industry to obscure that.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Alzaebo
21 days ago

Just askin’, but what proportion of the elderly killed in New York by packing the sick into nursing homes and putting people on ventilators were White and registered Republican? Seems like the DNC via blue state governors just genocided a few dozen thousand GOP voters.

Mikep
Mikep
Reply to  Educated.redneck
21 days ago

There was a youtube vid from a nurse in one of the New York hospitals a while back. In it she claimed that it was the melanin enhanced community who were getting the short end of the stick so to speak. The allegation was that poor black patients would come in showing signs of anxiety, shortness of breath etc, brought on by too much news consumption, get “diagnosed” with the fantasy flu, put on a ventilator, killed, and thereby earn the hospital extra funding. They allegedly chose that section of the population because they were too ignorant to know what… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Federalist
21 days ago

Even Fauci has said there will be 10K extra breast cancer deaths due to lack of diagnosis during the epidemic. This is just a small fraction to be sure.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Federalist
21 days ago

Moreover, because children were confined at home with their parents and guardians, children in abusive relationships could no longer have escape and respite. There can be no doubt, therefore, that child abuse has increased because of this idiocy. Spousal abuse, too, for the same reason.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
21 days ago

And substance abuse…

Nikolai Vladivostok
21 days ago

The strange thing about this panic is, it’s global. Almost every nation panicked. Spare a thought for us Australians who now need permission to leave the country (frequently refused), or are effectively stranded abroad by absurd limits on arrival. And it will go on for years, because the government insists on locking down strictly until there are close to 0 infections, thereby inhibiting herd immunity. And the public want rules to be stricter!

This year I have lost my faith in my countrymen and my fellow humans in general. We don’t deserve to dodge the great filter.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Nikolai Vladivostok
21 days ago

What’s going on in Australia is shocking. I honestly think it might be the problem of too many law-abiding white people and not enough feral black. It’s really going to be harder to do it here because of all our diversity. I think there’s a chance that diversity is going to save us. And that’s pretty much going to be the Pinnacle of irony if it does

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  whitney
21 days ago

I always kind of pictured the Aussies as tougher than average cookies, but apparently not. Maybe it goes back to the great gun grab a couple of decades ago. Pretty sad.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  usNthem
21 days ago

Where have you gone Paul Hogan?

Suburban_elk
Reply to  David Wright
21 days ago

Rodney William Ansell. They killed him in 1999, in a gunfight w/ police. He got one of them tho too.

The mainstream stories about his death, would indicate that he went off the rails and brought it upon himself.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  whitney
21 days ago

I think there’s a chance that diversity is going to save us….”

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I’ll take that bet. When you consider that these noggers and mudflaps we are importing by the boat load nearly got ebola kick started again…? And that they breed like flies with the same sanitary habits?

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
21 days ago

They’re bringing tuberculosis back. And that is far more dangerous than viruses.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Epaminondas
21 days ago

Thanks Obama!

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Paintersforms
21 days ago

Want African politics, have an African President.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
21 days ago

Actually, TB never left us. Thanks to all the wonderful illegals from Mexico, my baby sister turned up tine positive in 67 or so. I turned up tine and IPPD positive in 75 while on active duty in the USAF and after a year on Isoniazid I have to get a chest x-ray every year as part of my annual checkup. Believe you me. TB is very much still with us. Oh, and I hear that there are strains which laugh at isoniazid. Good luck if you turn up tine positive. Democrats – the gifts they give us just KEEP… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Bill Mullins
21 days ago

To be fair, Republicans haven’t done much to stem the tide, and only then a bare minimal ineffectual amount when dragged kicking and screaming.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Glenfilthie
21 days ago

The natural disobedience and disorderliness of browns and (especially!) blacks might help… except that we also have parallel legal systems now. Everyone understands they aren’t held to anything like the standard whites are. So we can have enormous flaming riots and huge jogger block parties AT THE EXACT SAME TIME you as a white person can’t go to church, walking in the park, or do an honest day’s work. Everyone can see the rank injustice now, it’s only a question of if we choose to continue to tolerate it indefinitely. Our ancestors started wars and revolutions over much less, so… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Anonymousse
20 days ago

Somewhere, yes, supposedly it’s down there somewhere. I have a hard time believing sometimes that the masked, fearful zombies I see shambling the streets around here have anything left in them at all. I wonder if one day they’ll all just dry up and blow away leaving only their masks and some dust.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
21 days ago

I think, just perhaps, you owe flies an apology. 😉

Sandmich
Reply to  whitney
21 days ago

It is amusing these edicts the aspiring totalitarians bounce around in the States as if it’s an all-white country. For instance my wife said that Jill Biden wants everyone to be forced to learn Spanish. Really? Her plan is to get a bunch of people who can barely speak one language to speak two? And she’s going to gang-press the Chinese and Indians into weekend Spanish training? These liberals still haven’t wizened up to the fact that their high-minded dreams die the instant they touch “diversity”.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Sandmich
21 days ago

It’s the ongoing civil war between white people. Our side knows our numbers are terrible but their side doesn’t seem to realize that

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  whitney
21 days ago

We accuse civnats of being stuck in 1985 but I think people like Pelosi, Schumer, and Hillary are living in the past too. They think that the imported block of faceless Third World voters will continue to do what they are told when it is clear that they have ambitions of their own.

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james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  whitney
21 days ago

The fact is that voting in Australia is compulsory. It’s surprising Australia held on as long as it did.

BerndV
Member
Reply to  whitney
21 days ago

Trad americans were mostly self selected from the European gene pool to be rebellious and have a rather dim view of authority. Those of us that steadfastly refuse to wear our muzzles and congregate on the Z blog have apparently retained those traits.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Nikolai Vladivostok
21 days ago

This year I have lost my faith in my countrymen and my fellow humans in general.

Totally agree.

However in the Age of Cthulu this is a feature, not a bug.

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Nikolai Vladivostok
21 days ago

Yeah, i’ve long maintained that we were long overdue for a pandemic that would thin the herd. So i was primed to panic when this struck. The only thing that really threw me was the chinese shutting down cities. I though they were pragmatic people. As i watched the death rate hover barely above influenza- i relaxed.

Mikep
Mikep
Reply to  SidVic
21 days ago

The Chinese response was remarkable, you have to wonder why they did it. My guess is, because they can. it’s equally clear that we in the West can’t. If China continues to dictate global responses to these kind of events, it will go hard on us.

JR Ewing
JR Ewing
Member
21 days ago

Honestly, I didn’t have much problem with the reaction right at the very beginning, but about a week in I started looking for hospital data and noticing that my neighbors weren’t keeling over in large numbers (or at all). Then all the models started getting discredited and various public intellectuals started saying, “Eh, this isn’t as bad as we thought…” and by the middle of April I figured we were just about done with the great covid scare of 2020. And then they started doubling down on the panic… And the sad thing is, there’s a healthy 40-50% of the… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  JR Ewing
21 days ago

What the hell happened to us?

As Yuri Bezmenov stated, our society has been successfully demoralized.

Thus, hundreds of millions of people are no longer able to process factual information or think for themselves, and they conduct themselves accordingly.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
21 days ago

WGH, yes. And the only thing more daunting than those millions of unthinking co-residents is their spawn, who have never known anything other than the google-wiki truth portal. The physical world and all the lessons of history are just some grainy footage of faked moon landings. Their brains are being literally wired to only accept globopedo HDMI. That is more dangerous than any microbe. We like to pick on boomers, but once they retire to the good schools neighborhood in the sky, its just us xers and the 5G kids.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Screwtape
21 days ago

The Boomers got their mind-wipe via television. No one alive today remains untouched by the screens.

There’s some hope in country and exurb folks who still spend time outside and don’t live on their phones.

Parents – keep your kids away from the screens until at least their teenage years and then keep it minimal. They are like weed – developing brains are especially at-risk.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Exile
21 days ago

Indeed. But how? Maybe turn Amish? I have a cell phone—turned off and in a signal proof sack. It’s for emergencies only. However, I am locked out of several services due to lack of text messaging. Seems that they require such for authentication these days. I can go on, but you see where this is going. I even hear rumbling of places going all debit/credit and no cash (germs).

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Compsci
21 days ago

Just dont buy it. I haven’t had a TV in 6 years. Watch (hard copy) movies 3-4 times a year on a laptop.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  JR Ewing
21 days ago

If we can rely on CDC, here is a chart of the “excess death rate.” Of course I’m no expert, but “excess deaths” is a good stat because we don’t have to dither in what the causes of death were. Note that since late March, the rate peaked for a few months and then settled down a bit. Yes, there are more deaths than pre-pandemic, but looks like only 5-10% over the average. Hardly the apocalypse. Yes, more people than usual are dying, but not alarmingly so, and the majority of deaths are the co-morbidities that didn’t have a long… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
21 days ago

If the stat’s are not cooked and kept accurate, there will be much to learn here. In particular—how much excess deaths are related to Covid and lost years of life involved. But this will not be obvious for a few years. As I said yesterday, but seems Z-man has fallen for, the touted 6% CDC death from Covid-19 is not the total cost of the disease—nor does it mean less than 10% of the report COVID-19 deaths should be attributed to Covid. The old, sick, and co-morbid are being pushed of the cliff so to speak by Covid-19. Same would… Read more »

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DLS
DLS
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
21 days ago

It would be interesting to see how many excess deaths are due to delayed non-covid procedures.

Deana
Deana
Reply to  JR Ewing
21 days ago

Back in mid-March, I was supportive of our hospital pausing elective surgeries and reducing visitation privileges for 2-3 weeks in the event we did get a surge of patients. Pre-covid we operated at 98-100% capacity all the time so we needed to make room just in case. What was odd though was that from the beginning, some people were saying we would be shut down for months and months and I remember thinking, “How do we know this now? Why can’t we just take things in two week segments, analyze the data and adjust as we go?” Two weeks into… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Deana
21 days ago

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Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  Deana
21 days ago

Part and parcel of the phenomenon of buying into this so deeply is the failure to dismiss, out of hand, the initial doomsday declarations made by the medical / pharma mandarins.

Mikep
Mikep
Reply to  JR Ewing
21 days ago

Over here in Blighty, bonehead Boris called it about right with his first press conference on the Wu Flu, back in early March I think it was. Sound sensible advice on hand washing, and shielding the elderly and those with underling medical conditions, if only he’d had the balls to leave it at that.

sentry
sentry
21 days ago

There is the massive transfer of wealth from small business to corporate giants.
Elites wanna impoverish whites and own everything so that normal folk could become totally dependable on the system. They’ll then sell soy food to population and weaken us even further. We’ll live in satan’s bubble if elites win.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  sentry
21 days ago

Bugs.

We’re going be eating insect protein and sleeping in tubes, possibly in work camps.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
21 days ago

I WILL NOT EAT THE BUGS

I WILL NOT LIVE IN THE POD

I WILL NOT TAKE THE VACCINE

I WILL NOT WAX THE BALLS

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Vizzini
Reply to  sentry
21 days ago

I tried to explain to some people in a comment thread a few days ago that they should not be cheering the record stock market, that it was a sign that globalist forces were winning, and I got a whole lot of “I don’t understand,” “the free market will fix everything” and outright poo-pooing. We’re doomed.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Vizzini
21 days ago

Your point about the stock market is a good one. I would probably also go as far as to include other government economic indicators which, although not without value, are wielded like a magical amulet by many. Whenever I want to see how I may fare in future economic circumstances, I compare the prices of staple food items with the past, take a walk through the local high street and see how many people are eating out and then look at the price of gold. On the question of the free market, I find it interesting to note that even… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
21 days ago

I’d like just one of the “free market” dipshits explain to me how that works when the Fed creates $4 Trillion to give to it owners?

Hairy
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
21 days ago

This the single best example of why the stock market isn’t a sound indicator for the health of the economy. What it’s basically telling us is that massive unemployment is good. Maybe if more people are unemployed the economy will do even better!

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Hairy
21 days ago

What the stock market tells us is that the Fed can pump (and dump) with the best of them—as they can print money—he’ll, they don’t even need a printing press. ;-). But really, the Fed has bought stock, bonds, and manipulated interest rates to support the market and has abandoned the employment mandate of previous times.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Compsci
21 days ago

Tldr: money machine go burrrrr

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Hairy
21 days ago

Unemployment stats are among the most rigged. After a few weeks you drop off, even if you haven’t found new employment.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Vizzini
21 days ago

“Free market!” Ha ha ha! 😀

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Vizzini
21 days ago

Can anyone really utter the phrase “free market” with a straight face when corporate, too-big-to-fail, bailouts are made possible by “money printer go brrrr?” And the vast majority of stocks are held by the top10%? https://tinyurl.com/y2o3pazu.

Mikep
Mikep
Reply to  Vizzini
21 days ago

The key word here being “free” market. Anyone know what one of those is?

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Mikep
21 days ago

Yes, but they are referred to as the “Black Market.”

Vizzini
Reply to  Mikep
21 days ago

Even an actual free market wouldn’t solve the problem. Monopoly is the inevitable endgame of a free market.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  sentry
21 days ago

The Governor of my state (NJ) is a Goldman Sachs partner. He loves crushing small businesses out while pumping up the stocks in his portfolio. I don’t understand why it isn’t obvious to everyone.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Drake
21 days ago

mass media exists to stop people from having these type of realizations

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Drake
21 days ago

I do. Average working-stiff has to juggle family responsibilities and all that goes along with it: work, commuting, etc. They often rely upon “advisors” who may or may not have the client’s interest at heart. It would be career suicide for a financial advisor to cross the Bankster (although oddly not the other way ’round.)

Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  Drake
21 days ago

Your governor, ((( Murphy ))), proves that one does not have to be a ((( Mnuchin ))), or an ((( Blankfein ))), or a ((( Rubin ))) to be a ((( Goldman Sachs ))) partner.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Drake
21 days ago

The only light that will be shed on the foul corruption of our rulers is from the lamppost they will swing from, in minecraft

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  sentry
21 days ago

We’ll live in satan’s bubble if elites win.

“if elites win”??? Fekking IF?!?!?!?! What are you toking, boy? What ARE you toking?

usNthem
usNthem
21 days ago

As I said yesterday, the mask & “social distancing” crap ain’t going away anytime soon. As a matter of fact, for a certain percentage of the population, it’s never going away. So many have bought into this lie, it’s unbelievable, and tptb can (and will) say that these measures are what kept it from being much worse that it’s obviously turned out to be. I guess one good thing concerning the perpetual maskers is they’ll easy to identify, rounded up and chucked into an institution where they belong – along with all the f-ing politicians who foisted this BS on… Read more »

whitney
Member
Reply to  usNthem
21 days ago

when I see a white person walking down the street with a mask on I think you are lost to me and your people forever.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  whitney
21 days ago

I just look at them and shake my head.
We need to bring shame back.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  whitney
21 days ago

Indeed. Where I am, most whites from the age of 20-40 seem to have adopted two submissive characteristics: The Mask and The Stoop. It is a most contemptuous sight.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  usNthem
21 days ago

I live a location where everybody, expect for the odd tourist or expat, thinks the Covid scare is bullshit. It’s refreshing to be among sane people.

Member
Reply to  Hun
20 days ago

Can we infer from your user name that this is Hungary?

Spud Boy
Spud Boy
21 days ago

I’ve been saying from day one that this flu is no worse than the flu of 1968 that killed 100K Americans when we had half the population, and the economy grew at 5% that year.

(I believe I actually had that flew as a 6 YO child. Worst fever I can remember–hallucinations and everything.)

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
21 days ago

I know Zman doesn’t like the teleologies and the conspiracy theories, but isn’t it interesting that the mistakes the ruling class makes always seem to increase their power? It isn’t just that they “never let a crisis go to waste.” The crises seem to come just when they need them and to redound to their benefit. A true incompetent would also step on his own rake/get hoisted with his own petard occasionally. Before this pandemic there were hardware stores and laundromats in my neighborhood with Trump signs and little NRA stickers. Now there are “For Lease” signs in those same… Read more »

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Joey Jünger
21 days ago

We will build community and take those storefronts back. But it will require our people to re-prioritize their personal economics and addiction to convenience (among other things.) The well being of their community will have to supplant their own versions of opportunism, predation, leverage, and materialism. Much of what the ruling class has done is to offer people an easy solution to their problems. Of course they create many of those problems, but absent our human masters, nature herself is pretty good at generating problems. The challenge ahead is not overcoming the strength of our masters it is overcoming the… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Screwtape
21 days ago

Convenience-addiction is pernicious. Look at the commentary we often see about “what, you wanna be Amish or something?” If the future belongs to those who show up, look who’s laughing last. http://groups.etown.edu/amishstudies/social-organization/population-growth/ “Observers might expect a traditional group that rejects higher education, car ownership, and the Internet to be on the wane. On the contrary, the Amish population is growing constantly. The 200 church districts in 1951 have grown to approximately 2,608 in 2020.  Large families and strong retention rates propel the growth. On average, families have about five children, but it’s not unusual for them to have ten… Read more »

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Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Screwtape
21 days ago

We will build community and take those storefronts background.

Sorry, S, but I gotta call bullshit. Ain’t no WAY that’s happening. Not no way. Not no how. Because, as has been explained to me and others here time.and again, tribes. They got ’em. We don’t. It’s. As. Simple. As. That.
One word.

TRIBES

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Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Bill Mullins
21 days ago

“We”? When we do as I say we will do, there will be many brave men who will show up to stake a claim in “our” communities. Many will wax on about how they were always part of this thing or that – just as they did with their desktop dissident flexing in the before times, while men who were too stupid or stubborn to bend over and take the futility of it all pulled the boards off the windows and got to work. And I will just smile because in the end we are all dust and what we… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Joey Jünger
21 days ago

“Now Main Street’s whitewashed windows and vacant stores
Seems like there ain’t nobody wants to come down here no more
They’re closing down the textile mill across the railroad tracks
Foreman says these jobs are going boys and they ain’t coming back”
— Bruce Springsteen

Vizzini
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
21 days ago

Says the guy who has been a multi-millionaire celebrity since his early twenties. I grew up near him. I fucking hate Springsteen.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Vizzini
21 days ago

101% agree. Total poseur.

John Cougar was a much more authentic example of a prole-populist working-man’s musician. Not my favorite guy, too overplayed when I was growing up, but much more the real deal.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Vizzini
21 days ago

I was a big fan 40-45 years ago before he hit the big time. After that he just became your typical run of the mill rich liberal asswipe. As you said – fuck him.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Joey Jünger
21 days ago

Maybe you missed it, but declining tax revenue, increased bond issuance, and lethargic law enforcement are all signs and the state becoming more impotent.l, not less. While some businesses may have opportunistically gained from the panic, even their long-term prospects are worse because poor people buy fewer, lower-margin goods. Essentially, there’s no meaningful power in being the captain of a sinking ship.

Sandmich
Reply to  Drew
21 days ago

Yeah as far schemes go, this one seems particularly not well thought out.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Sandmich
21 days ago

O rlly? So when the vaccine comes out, from a company heavily invested in by tptb (Feinstein was broke when first elected, now worth $60 million), and it’s a mandatory 3-course jab at $500 per for 300 million people, that’s $450,000,000,000 someone just made. Oh, and if you refuse, all adults in your family are fired and ineligible for unemployment or any govt benefit and your kids kicked out of school (public OR private). Sounds pretty well thought out to me.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Educated.redneck
19 days ago

Its risky., People are in the mood for a fight, well armed and the Left who go from talk to tossing a molotov at the drop of a hat, fear and hate vaccines,

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
21 days ago

“The bottom line in all of this is the man-made panic has done more damage to American society than the virus”

I see it a little differently, the lockdowns and hysteria are evidence that our society is seriously damaged. A generation or two ago any public official proposing these would have been a complete laughingstock and the edicts would have been ignored and fodder for comedians (remember those people?).

Instead a couple of long term social trends – the ever declining emotional maturity of our culture and disaster mongering combined to create this nonsense – LARPing the apocalypse.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
21 days ago

the lockdowns and hysteria are evidence that our society is seriously damaged.

I think this is a byproduct of fact our society has been based on empty materialism since the ’60s.

The West no longer has any collective cultural, ethnic, or spiritual identity, and it shows.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
19 days ago

I agree with you. I will say that the words “genetically engineered virus” rightfully scares the piss out of most people. On top of that knowledge laymen and many experts think its a rate of gain experiment which means it mutates constantly and could go from “nasty flu+” which is what it is now to something very nasty at any time, I can understand the fear and compliance. Also people don’t want our violent police hitting the house or the store with a SWAT team to be that example. We have the most violent police in the developed world in… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
20 days ago

It’s been surprising to me too. When the mask edicts first started I thought, well all anyone really has to do here is… nothing. Own a shop or restaurant? Just don’t put up signs or anything. Maybe tell your employees to remind people to wear masks but don’t check to see if they do and quietly fire anyone who makes a nuisance of themselves over it. Before long it all turns into something like the 55 mph speed limit did in rural areas. What we’ve seen instead of bemused casual lawlessness is a sort of “active submission” where people try… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
21 days ago

We had the Diamond Princess and its older-skewed population way back in January and February that was more than sufficient to tell us Beer Flu was not an issue for people who were not very sick and very old. Going in the other direction, we then had the hysterical teenage female response from the US Navy when Beer Flu found its way onto an aircraft carrier. I think there was one death in that episode. The French managed to get Beer Flu on their aircraft carrier and had zero deaths. As I’ve said from the beginning, I’ll take the health… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
21 days ago

When this thing started, I was telling most people I knew who were concerned about the Diamond Princess. It is one of the best examples of what this virus can do… To the usual suspects. No cause for global panic, no cause at all.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
21 days ago

We didn’t even get to 10% of my predicted death toll. At least I said “old hit 10x worse, take the under.” DP really was the best example for this. Nothing is a better environment for respiratory disease than a cruise ship on lockdown.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Exile
21 days ago

Exile-

Using the data from the Diamond Princess I calculated a worst case US death total in the 300-320k range.

The juiced CDC number of 190k isn’t even 2/3rds of that.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Exile
21 days ago

Yep. They were isolated in their rooms, but the air system was not unique. Entire wings ran off a single ductwork set.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
21 days ago

The problem in all the hysteria, Howard, is that, at least for some people, this virus REALLY IS a KILLER! I remember a poster here telling us how he’d caught the virus (from a sick Chinaman IIRC) and gotten very, Very, fekking VERY sick! Under the heading of “X degrees of separation”, the Cardiologist I’ve been seeing for over 20 years was in the local news because he came down with the virus and damned near DIED!! And he wasn’t especially old or in bad health either. As I tried to tell a different Dr. back in April, corona viruses… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Bill Mullins
20 days ago

Since there’s actually no way to avoid all risks what ends up happening is that whoever is the most effective in causing the most fear gains the most power and wealth. Whatever bogeyman is the most terrifying at the moment is, of course, not necessarily the most dangerous and so real problems are ignored while the masses are stampeded off by one phantom after another conjured by the puppet masters. What does one call this? Phobocracy? Rule through mass fear? What happens to people whose bodies are flooded with stress hormone continually? Catatonic indifference perhaps, a slow wasting death with… Read more »

PeterEatHer
PeterEatHer
21 days ago

Spare a thought for Australians living in Victoria. Daniel Andrews, the mangina in charge has had a state of emergency extended to 18 months. I’d like to think he won’t be re-elected, but who knows. In a sane world, he’d be rounded up and thrown to the sharks.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  PeterEatHer
21 days ago

He probably will be elected prime minister.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
21 days ago

Ya got that shite right!

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  PeterEatHer
21 days ago

I am quite sure that a lot of people just don’t really want the responsibility of thinking for themselves. In fact, they’d probably give over many freedoms just to remain comfortable. Perhaps re-election is on the cards after all…

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  PeterEatHer
21 days ago

In a sane world, he’d be rounded up and thrown to the sharks.

{sigh} If only we lived in one of those. OTOH, if we did live in a sane world we most definitely would NOT be having this discussion in the first place. 😋

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  PeterEatHer
20 days ago

[REDACTED] is what I think should happen

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
21 days ago

This crisis was unique in that it showed just how gynocratic our society has become.

A society in which males have a voice does not cover itself in phrases like “Doors Closed, Hearts Open!”

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  MemeWarVet
21 days ago

This.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  MemeWarVet
21 days ago

Or the new standard goodbye of “Stay safe.” From complete strangers. Brought to you by the same people who respond with a health litany to the common greeting of “How are you?”

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  3g4me
21 days ago

I thought “stay safe” meant stay safe from the Soros army’s summer military campaign?…

Member
Reply to  3g4me
20 days ago

To me, “stay safe” is the most infuriating slogan to come out of this. Some kids have scrawled this in chalk on a sidewalk near me. It doesn’t rain here in the summer so it’s been there for a month. I make an effort to scuff away a little more of it each time I walk there. Of course the local wymmyn and their man-wives fill their kids’ heads with far more egregious garbage too. I still recall when I taught a summer computer class a few years back meeting the couple who had their 11 year old son in… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  MemeWarVet
21 days ago

Which translated for independent thinkers is “Minds Closed, Butts Open.”

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
21 days ago

Went to Church where a lady was very vocally discussing how people were making the mask mandate political because they “just didn’t want people telling them what to do.” She made it very clear she was a doctor at least three times, and therefore was above us plebs. Not being able to help myself, I told her about the risks associated with constant mask wearing with other infections. She stated “that’s misinformation, as long as you’re not fiddling with your mask all the time and taking it on and off, you’re fine.” I response “What do you think people are… Read more »

Kentucky Headhunter
Kentucky Headhunter
Reply to  Chet Rollins
21 days ago

Once women get into medical school the administration will carry them over the finish line. Female MDs should come with their own warning labels.

BabyDuckling
BabyDuckling
Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
21 days ago

And be avoided if you can.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
21 days ago

Great. My primary isn’t even an MD (nurse-practicioner or whatever.) But she white 🙂 Add to this my Haitian cardiologist, Indian pulmonist and Pakistani shrink… Getting a bit diverse in the medical field, is it not???

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
21 days ago

Your Doctors not withstanding, Ben, may you live to be a hundred. I fancy dying at 110; shot by the jealous husband of a 20-year-old. 😇

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
21 days ago

Boy, this one just pushed one of my memory buttons. I was in med school back when grades and scores were what mattered for admission. My class at (State) Medical College was 206 students with one black and about ten women. One of the women had started the year ahead of us and been held back. At the end of her second (third really) year she was up for being held back again. First time was grades and second time was grades and suspicion of cheating. I was our class representative to the committee that considered this. I relayed the… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
19 days ago

A hundred years ago women were mostly prohibited from most trades and formal higher (past high school) education.
This was a good idea as it kept the system male focused (and thus functional) and ensured women married and had kids,
Past I don’t know, an associates degree, nursing certs or the like maybe as low as high school formally educated women usually make poor parents if the bother having kids at all these days.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Chet Rollins
21 days ago

It’s been a while since I’ve held any physicians in high esteem, and with this mess, most have proven NOT to be up to the task. Most are browbeaten twerps like your average soyboy. Even if they believe the coronatard virus lethality to be wildly overstated, they’re highly unlikely to say so. My GP has toed the line like a good little boy – wear a mask – stay six feet apart. What a joke.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  usNthem
21 days ago

A lot of them say the company line in the office, then DGAF in their actual lives.
Two of my doctor clients wanted to resume music lessons in person, and screw masks, while one of the non-doctor parents was having panic attacks at the prospect.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  thezman
21 days ago

Stealing this.

BabyDuckling
BabyDuckling
Reply to  thezman
21 days ago

I replied, “I’m a transgender virologist working for Doctors Without Borders and I know you are wrong.”

Might as well grab the top of the top.

exfarmkid
exfarmkid
Reply to  thezman
21 days ago

What Epaminondas said.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  thezman
21 days ago

In clownworld, its all basically: “are you a doctor?” “No, but I play one on TV”. I have seriously considered wearing scrubs when going to the store sans mask. Stethoscope dangling. Maybe a white lab coat with some official looking patches. And then just lecturing anyone who dares test my authority. Most of these people are just begging to be led out of this madness. To your illustration, why the top rung remains firmly in cloud city is something to address. Maybe the answer is bottom up noise. We are all virologists now.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  thezman
21 days ago

My daughter is a nurse and in her office the doctors are not buying the mask edicts and do not believe the masks protect the public in general.
But they keep quiet in public lest they are ostracized. We really are approaching Soviet type coercion.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  thezman
21 days ago

I wouldn’t claim to be a virologist or transgender; I’d say something like “The only safety measures important for me is that nurses take birth control and don’t reproduce.”

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Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Marko
21 days ago

Or something like, “yeah, honey, YOU really should be covering your face in public. It’s a health thing, for everyone else’s sake.”

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  thezman
21 days ago

As I’ve mention perhaps before, early on I got email from my doctor touting the CDC/Fauci line wrt to mask and other prevention recommendations. Amazingly detailed as to how effective these recommendations were. I, being under house arrest with much time on my hands, responded with ref’s to medical journals and foreign health authorities contradicting these recommendations. I would always be conciliatory and ask my doctor if he could provide me with his medical journal studies so I might educate myself better in the field. This went on for a few weeks and now I no longer hear from him… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  thezman
20 days ago

Yep. At this point honesty is for the nice guys who don’t mind finishing last. These people are enemies and we must damage them by all means available.

BabyDuckling
BabyDuckling
Reply to  Chet Rollins
21 days ago

Was she too fugly to put on a bikini and wiggle in a Tik-Tok vidya? I am guessing…. yes.

Were you, pray tell, attending one of the many converged, female and gay driven churches? if so, why and what did you expect to encounter there, human wise?

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  BabyDuckling
21 days ago

It’s actually a Catholic Trad Community.
90% certain she was sent by the Archdiocese because most of us ignore the mask mandates they put in place.

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BTP
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
21 days ago

That’s a thing – the archdiocesan spies. My old diocese is run by a McCarrick nephew, so spies and unhinged mask mandates are all the rage.

BabyDuckling
BabyDuckling
Reply to  Chet Rollins
21 days ago

I am also Catholic, so I respectfully ask you whether you consider “Trad” to NOT be, as I framed the question, “converged, female and gay driven…?”

BabyDuckling
BabyDuckling
Reply to  BabyDuckling
21 days ago

Hey neg downvoter, don’t be a coward, comment.

I asked a simple question of my reportedly co-religionist after he reported the behavior of a ‘church lady’, shall we say.

I want to know, as my parish is not preaching against “white supremacists” and all that liberation theology, yet is not considered “Trad”.

Unless you comment, your downvote is a Mark of Cain. Look in the mirror, see it growing?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Chet Rollins
21 days ago

I find myself getting right down to the nitty-gritty. I simply say if you want to wear a mask, do so. I prefer not to. That is the opening. A faint if you will. The response is always to the effect that everyone must wear a mask to protect everyone else (similar to the vaccine argument). Then I spring to trap: “What right do you have to demand I protect you?”

Now I don’t really care about the answer. It’s just my FU to the Karens.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Compsci
21 days ago

The Supreme Court has said that the police are not required to protect anybody so why are we, as private citizens,required to.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
21 days ago

I am convinced that as the healthcare system exists today, any benefit actually accruing to patients is purely a side-effect – and a 2ndary if not tertiary one at that! As I see it, the primary primary function of the healthcare system is employment for healthcare workers. Well, that and obscene profits for insurance companies, of course.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
21 days ago

I’m reminded of the story of the time when for whatever reason a flight was delayed so long that the pilot and copilot had to be replaced due to FAA regs regarding crew rest (like truckers, pilots are only allowed so many hours on duty per day before they MUST have so many hours crew rest.) Any way, the pilot made an announcement to the effect that there would be a delay until the current aircrew could be relieved. After the announcement some – female – passenger in 1st class started loudly complaining about the delay. In an effort to… Read more »

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
21 days ago

Finally, this is example six million that the people in charge of America are too corrupt and incompetent to perform the basic duties of rule. In order to live something close to a normal life, Americans have to navigate around a thicket of pirates, bandits and incompetent bureaucrats all looking to rob the public. Slathered onto that is a ruling class ham-handedly addressing problems of their own creation. American are being strangled by an anaconda of incompetence from above. The American people share a large amount of the blame, too. They have been gaslighted and swindled time after time after… Read more »

Major Hoople
Major Hoople
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
21 days ago

And in line with that, read William Briggs this morning. Let’s just say, he goes there.
https://wmbriggs.com/post/32385/

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
21 days ago

The American people … have been gaslighted and swindled time after time by the grifters who govern them, yet they fell into line immediately when told outrageous and transparent lies. FYI, this old man only wore – AND CONTINUES TO WEAR – a mask when/where required because failure to do carried a fine of up to a $1,000.00 and up to a YEAR in county lockup! Also, there are places that flat won’t let you in the door if you aren’t wearing SOME sort of “face covering” – places I HAD to go because it was my JOB! Oh, and… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jack Dobson
21 days ago

We kind of deserve it, but at the same time, it is a consequence of anarcho-tyranny. While the “right” kind of looters, murderers and arsonists either don’t get arrested or are released before the fingerprint ink dries, those who don’t mask up or socially distance are tackled/fined/imprisoned with the full force of the state apparatus.

Drake
Drake
21 days ago

The one country that responded as Z describes – quarantining the old and sick, letting everyone else get it and develop immunity – is Sweden. Early on the media predicted dead in the streets. Now that Sweden has emerged out the other end of this thing with herd immunity and an intact economy (which the media has adamantly ignored). Now things are back to normal there – Muslim immigrant crime and violence.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Drake
21 days ago

Sweden actually dropped the ball on nursing homes, and still came out better than many places.
The sad truth is if DeBlasio and Cuomo just quarantined nursing homes instead of bringing Covid patients into them while doing nothing else, deaths in New York would would have probably been halved.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Chet Rollins
21 days ago

Same in NJ and PA.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Drake
21 days ago

And that’s why you don’t take advice from a man who thinks he’s a woman.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Drake
21 days ago

Gee, progressive Yankee politicians did things to kill off tens of thousands of whites who happen to vote republican 3:1? I am shocked that such an “accident” could happen! So unfooortunate that it occurred in an election year. A real mystery for the ages on why that happened.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
21 days ago

Finally, this is example six million that the people in charge of America are too corrupt and incompetent to perform the basic duties of rule. The basic duties of rule do not fit the bill of the instant gratification crowd. Who, for example, wishes to consider the correct camber of a road, whether a river should be dredged, or amend planning/zoning legislation? These are mundane tasks, and given the very new ‘entertainment’ aspect politics has taken on, it follows that nobody would want to do such things when huge accolades can be won for virtue signalling. That said, mundane tasks… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  OrangeFrog
21 days ago

Well said Brother…When people want to actually start determining their future instead of letting someone else do it for them then they will start Building Community where they are at or they will move to somewhere they can…

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
21 days ago

Here in a midwestern city we have six figure school administrators setting up remote education programs for kindergartners that require them to read instructions before proceeding with the computer lesson. I suppose it never occured to them that kindergartners generally can’t read proficiently?
America is governed by loons in 2020.
And the “ six million” are to incompetent to be our elite.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
21 days ago

Can’t wait for the public to start questioning why they spend so much on education.

BabyDuckling
BabyDuckling
Reply to  Paintersforms
21 days ago

Yes, yes. “Start questioning…”

My town has multiple $100k+ gym teachers in the high school. We just got our bill for school taxes, a measly $6500.00 and we live in a modest home. What used to be called a “house”.

And these fucking school teacher rats don’t want to do a day of work.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  BabyDuckling
21 days ago

Man I would say screw that and either change it if you have the power or get the hell out of there…

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
21 days ago

Never attribute to malice, that which can be attributed to stupidity. The seriousness of this has not been lost on our leaders, and I heard that Joe Biden came out of his basement to address it… but he got derailed and started tossing a word salad…

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Glenfilthie
21 days ago

They are malicious retards.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Glenfilthie
21 days ago

Look at Jewish Twitter, Black Twitter & Woke Twitter in general.

Every day They are telling us that this is down to malice. I’m taking that at face value.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Exile
21 days ago

Daily reminder – they want us and our children broke, imprisoned, raped, murdered, and eaten, not necessarily in that order, and they think it is absolutely hilarious.

b123
b123
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
21 days ago

They want white men dead and white women as sex slaves.

You can listen to 30 seconds of any rap song and figure it out.

Of course, we all know who is really behind it… but blacks will gladly take it if offered.

SixxSigma
SixxSigma
21 days ago

Authorities 

Science/Scientists

Officials

Experts

Order

Mandate

Data

Watch the nightly news some time and count how frequently these words are used, particularly when there’s a “Covid-19 update”.

These words possess extreme power over the mind of a demoralized person, and until officials in conjunction scientists issue new data that this has all been a fucking lie, literally nothing will change. 

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  SixxSigma
21 days ago

Good categories for bullsh*t bingo – except the game is over in < 5 minutes.

FeinianBlood
FeinianBlood
21 days ago

The Point of all this was in the bottom line paragraph. As the American people esp Heritage Americans lack any alternative to The Left but voting and obeying laws that are against them they were and are doomed to comply. That there is no Right Wing other than fantasy to protect them is the price of socially enforced cowardice by the Right; that sin falls not on the Left nor the State. The sin of socially enforced Right Wing cowardice falls on the Right, including the author of this blog. We may yet be saved by brave teenagers and the… Read more »

bob sykes
21 days ago

We have just had a demonstration of just how easily Americans can be stampeded into hysteria, and how easily they can be controlled.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  bob sykes
21 days ago

I suspect that was one of the main objectives. Now that tptb have their answer I shudder to think what comes next.

BabyDuckling
BabyDuckling
Reply to  bob sykes
21 days ago

How easily humans can be …

Look at some of the death statistics from the Great War. Reflect on how easily men were led to their deaths in the muck. Followed by more men. And more. Look at the numbers for all the 20th Century wars.

The smug, weak, corrupt men that sent them to die are the ones whose DNA now is in higher percentages in the Caucasian category.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  bob sykes
21 days ago

That’s been happening since forever. A person might be forgiven for expecting it would decline in the internet age.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  RoBG
21 days ago

There is so information at humanity’s fingertips, including access to many primary source documents, yet the masses choose to remain willfully ignorant.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Judge Smails
20 days ago

Well let’s be real, the masses are not very bright. They aren’t supposed to be involved in subtle policy decisions involving statistics and predictive models. The masses do invaluable things like keep the lights on and sanitation working and car engines running. They should be able to trust real “elites” to take responsibility and have the perspicacity for the big decisions in the face of complex and often ambiguous situations. That this elite had turned out to be both foolish and evil is not the fault of the masses. The masses will NEVER engage with complex issues and shouldn’t be… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Judge Smails
19 days ago

In most cases people with an IQ in the bottom 90% (under 120) aren’t going to be able to understand a lot of data well enough to question it.

onezeno
21 days ago

example six million

That number seems a little high to me

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  onezeno
21 days ago

Should be into the Gorillions at this point

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  onezeno
21 days ago

That number seems a little high to me

LOL

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Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  onezeno
21 days ago

Funny. Seems a tad low to me.

TomA
TomA
21 days ago

And don’t forget about all the elicit fortunes being made by corrupt politicians and bureaucrats using insider stock trading information and the fu-flu vaccine scam to enrich themselves. The pandemic has been a DC-based crime wave of unprecedented proportions. There are no adults in the room. We are on our own now. The cavalry is not coming over the hill to save us. And it’s way past time to grow a pair.

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Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  TomA
21 days ago

Its almost like someone pointed out a while ago that the entire point of the system is now a “bust out” by the cloud people.

Stranger in a strange land
21 days ago

A statement from a book I read about WW1 (which seems apropos to the topic at hand – and many others for that matter)…
“they have a pathetic faith in the fallacy that man is a reasonable animal”..

Exile
Exile
21 days ago

It became clear that covid was ooga-booga when the Groyd Riots were given the go-ahead. Counties even in the last Inland Empire bastions of red-state California have declared raycisms a public health threat. Meanwhile, LA is set to become the latest shithole shitstorm. https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/08/31/lasd-deputies-shoot-kill-man-in-south-los-angeles/ It’s the new-normal type of coverage for Black crime – scare quotes around ‘produced a handgun,” obligatory anti-cop statement in the headline. ?resize=484,640 Note that unlike the local Colored Broadcasting Station, the NY Post has some spicier details: “The man allegedly punched a cop in the face, dropping the clothes he was holding along with the… Read more »

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OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Exile
21 days ago

Dijon Kizzee? One thing I must hand to the kneegrows is that their names often make me chuckle.

BabyDuckling
BabyDuckling
Reply to  OrangeFrog
21 days ago

Pardon me, do you have any Grey Poupon?

Exile
Exile
Reply to  BabyDuckling
21 days ago

Groidus Interruptus

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  BabyDuckling
21 days ago

I’m sure there’s a piccaninny somewhere called Grey Poupon.

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Exile
Exile
Reply to  OrangeFrog
21 days ago

We just posted a huge list of these names that I think someone lifted from Paul Kersey’s site – or po-leece records.

A few highlights:
Jemetric Nicholson (28) cop killer(IL)
Shitavious J. Cook (15) murder (GA)
Xzoyloysius Wood, Jr. (19) shooting suspect (VA)
Tykerious Raheem “Grumpy” Jones (17) murder (GA)
I-Key Tumazs Pinkins (18) murder (GA)

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Exile
21 days ago

Over/under at least two of these fine specimens are receiving PPP “loans?”

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  OrangeFrog
20 days ago

Shitavious and Trashone got a lot of play, but Dijon Kizee seems like the product of a particularly whimsical and ambitious ignoramus. I like it. Best worst black name I’ve ever heard.

Rich
Member
21 days ago

“American are being strangled by an anaconda of incompetence from above”. Only from just above us, because above that it’s not incompetence, it’s malicious planning for political and financial purposes.
Dating myself, but living through both the Asian and Hong Kong flues helped me see immediately that the Covid numbers presentations screamed, agenda!
Don’t know how latest info will be handled by MSM, but it will be interesting to see how long they can keep the sheeple in line, with their masks on, waiting to get a mandatory vaccine. Lemming over the cliff.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
21 days ago

People will believe what they want to believe. In the domains of money, religion and politics (love sometimes added), we are not supposed to discuss. Why? Because much of what we believe in those categories is utter bullshit that collapses if subjected to the least rational scrutiny. By world standards, the USA is reasonably well-educated, yet surveys show that about half of Americans believe the world is only 6000 years old. Of course, a survey by itself proves nothing. People tell the pollster what they think he wants to hear (or equivalently, fail to say what they rightly fear may… Read more »

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
21 days ago

I’d ignore that poll. Creationists are not as large as 50% of the population.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
20 days ago

“Because much of what we believe in those categories is utter bullshit that collapses if subjected to the least rational scrutiny. “

Speak for yourself please.

Epaminondas
Member
21 days ago

“American are being strangled by an anaconda of incompetence from above.”

What did we expect from a government which is made up of the world’s largest bureaucracy?

Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
21 days ago

The left are jumping on the “only 6%” thing in the usual distraction method. Teeeeeechnically…well aaaaactuallyyyyyyy. It may be true that the 6% covid only reports are just lazy doctors who didnt list the pneumonia or heart disease or whatever for whatever reason. But if you read the data it paints a stark picture: the comorbidities are things healthy people dont have. Bad hearts, bad lungs, deadly tumors, obesity… if you tally the numbers many conditions are greater than the total dead meaning lots of these peoplr have a handful of these conditions. The virus doesnt kill you per se,… Read more »

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tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Irishfarmer
21 days ago

The whole democrats are the smart ones is self-serving nonsense. Every low IQ demographic in America votes Democrat. Criminals, single mothers, blacks and hispanics all vote in very large majorities, blacks at 90% for Democrats. Frankly, most people aren’t voting with their brain and I am including us. People vote with their emotions, identity and with their ideology. The universities have turned hard left in the past 60 years and have turned into political indoctrination centers. Because of that, educated people tend to vote left. But it’s not because they are smart. It is because their social and work circles… Read more »

Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
Reply to  tarstarkas
21 days ago

Leftists love soothing themselves with delusions of moral supremacy, so I can easily believe they’d do the same thing with intelligence. Tbf to them, though, our bell curve is being dragged leftward by normie conservatives so that has to be accounted for.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Irishfarmer
21 days ago

Our bell curve is being distorted by the leftist tilt of college grads (midwits) But even though the average IQ of a GOP voter is probably slightly under the White average (again, because White college grads vote strongly Democrat), our average is probably still higher than Democrats because they are heavily loaded with low IQ groups. Whatever advantage they have with college graduates is offset by high school drop outs and blacks and Hispanics. For every white college graduate voting Democrat, there is black or Hispanic voting Democrat. Though I can only guess, it seems reasonable to me that the… Read more »

b123
b123
Reply to  tarstarkas
21 days ago

Yeah audacious epigone looked at this.

Among whites, dems have higher IQ. Among all voters, repubs have higher IQ.

Quite literally a high-low coalition stomping on the middle.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  tarstarkas
21 days ago

In 2016 I heard anecdotally that there were a not insignificant number of Dems voting closet Republican. Wonder if that may be repeating.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Irishfarmer
21 days ago

You are not ranting and have better idea of what the 6% figure in the CDC report means than most I’ve heard so far. To interpret it literally as the total impact figure of Covid is as bad as the current figure we see used.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
21 days ago

Less than 10000 deaths isn’t even a weak flu. Honestly I’m skeptical about that number too, even though I thought it was being grossly overblown. In a nation of 320 million or whatever, that’s a rounding error.

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Paintersforms
21 days ago

It’s not 10k deaths. It’s many more than that. Again, COVID-19 pushes the co-morbid off the cliff so to speak. But the co-morbidity put you on that cliff in the first place. That you have one foot in the grave doesn’t mean Covid-19 has no effect or should be ignored because it wasn’t the *only* perceived cause of death. Everyone will most likely be “co-morbid” before they die of whatever. It used to be called “old age”. Flu, Covid-19, a bad cold, often ends the problem. Best to avoid them. That’s a recommendation I can remember since I was old… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Compsci
21 days ago

What it means is that Sweden had the correct approach.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Compsci
21 days ago

Two things: the 6 percent is great rhetorical ammunition: use it, irrespective of the “Actuaallly” crowd. 2: For the spergy, the argument is life-years. If covid responses kills 20 fewer octogenarians who will all die in six months anyway, you have saved only 10 life-years. If the measures that saved those 20 then kills three people in their 30’s, you have lost 135 life years, a net loss of 115 years. Thus the “he’s lived a good life” saying in a responsible culture.

Hun
Hun
21 days ago

That article by William Briggs is great, but the one he wrote today is very interesting: https://wmbriggs.com/post/32385/

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Hun
21 days ago

Read also the Michael Anton piece that Briggs links to, in his posting. Long but well worth it—and chilling.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Dutch
21 days ago

I’ve been wondering when Anton would weigh in on our current situation – I was and am a big fan of that Flight 93 essay. I guess writing a book will take up your time. That was grim reading though.