Optics Matter

One of the timeless lessons of this year has been that the future is always going to be full of surprises. To start the year, no one could have predicted the Covid panic and the rise of local tyrants using the panic to push people around. A month ago, no one would have predicted the recent events in Kenosha. It just seemed like these ruling class riots would continue in the same manner until the election. Then suddenly we have video of a young white kid fighting for his life in the streets.

It is way too soon to know how the story of Kyle Rittenhouse ends, but there is no doubt that this event stands out from all others this year. It does not fit the standard narrative the Left likes to jam all events. Public reaction to it has thus far been much different than we have seen with recent events. There is a good chance that this event may be the inflection point in the coming election. Even though we are still early in the story, there are several good lessons to be drawn from this event.

The obvious lesson right away is that appearances matter. Kyle Rittenhouse is a sweet looking kid who looks like a typical white teenager. Even without the closeups, just looking at the video, it is clear he is not a villain on the prowl. If he was an inked-up gym rat, he would not have gained instant sympathy. People would have assumed he was looking for trouble and found it. If he had Nazi neck art, then the initial response would have been entirely negative.

The fact is, looks matter. More precisely, presentation matters. It is the starting people for everyone trying to assess new information. Humans are pattern matching creatures, so we quickly try to match new events to known events. As soon as one is found, then that becomes the starting point. As Oscar Wilde joked, “It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances.” In this case, the starting point is one that elicits sympathy and compassion from most people.

This is the lesson the alt-right never learned. They not only convinced themselves that appearances don’t matter, they went out of their way to strike a bad pose. The fact is, the facts almost always take a back seat to people’s impressions. The handsome, well dressed salesman will move more product than the slovenly salesman, even when the latter has a superior product to the former. Politics is about persuasion and in the persuasion game, looks count for a lot.

Another lesson of this event is that you have to engage people where they are, not where you wish them to be. Everyone on this side of the great divide understands that these riots are part of the larger demographic issue. People on the other side of the divide, the normal whites, do not understand the demographic angle. In fact, they have been conditioned to avoid the topic altogether. Like dogs trained with a shock collar, they flinch whenever the race issue arises.

This story resonates with normal white people because it is a gun story, a self-defense story and a civic nationalism story. The race angle is still there, but instead of being the face of it, it is background noise. The heart of this story is stuff normal white people can understand and they are comfortable discussing. If this is Nazi-guy shooting black people, no lawyer is taking the case and no prominent people are speaking out in favor of the shooter. Instead, it is trophy for the Left.

Engaging people where they are opens doors. The oldest truth of sales is people buy from people. In politics, people buy from people with whom they can relate and who care about their issues. The people passionate about race, ethnicity and demographics are already on this side of the great divide. The people on the other side are passionate about other things. The path for them over to this side is through those issues, so mocking those issues, as so many do, is counter-productive.

Another useful lesson here is that the enemy is not a collection of super-intelligent super-villains. They often get high off their own supply. The crazies in the Antifa media are running this story as if the shooter is an evil white Hitler guy. They can’t see past their own ideological blinders. Their hatred for white people is so all consuming, they are trying to sell this as a racist attack. A headline like this over a picture of Rittenhouse is so incongruous that is suggests mental illness is at play.

We see another side of this with the Wisconsin prosecutor. A left-wing fanatic, immersed in that subculture, he immediately assumed Rittenhouse is an evil Nazi guy from one of their campfire stories. Charging this kid with capital murder is so outrageous and evil, it makes the kid into a symbol of everything that is wrong. Someone in control of his faculties would have gone for the lowest charge and worked from there. These people win because they have power, not because they are smart.

There will be a lot more to come as this story unfolds, but one final lesson is that winning the optics war counts for a lot. The so-called conservatives have avoided this story entirely thus far. The reason is they were destroyed by the Nick Sandman debacle and they are still hurting from it. They lost that optics battle. Public relations are a big business because optics matter. The winner is often the side that simply makes the best first impression on the public.

That is why those involved in dissident politics have always got to remember to be the friendly face to the skeptical public. If you meet the expectations people have for the good guys, you get treated as the good guys. If you insist on playing the role of the bad guy, then you will lose every fight, even when you are right. The person who seizes the moral high ground is almost always the person people initially trust. It is always better to be fighting from the top than from the bottom.

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Gespenst
Gespenst
25 days ago

That’s some sound, practical advice.

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  Gespenst
25 days ago

Let someone at the Wisconsin Bar Association know what you think about Kenosha County District Attorney Michael Graveley.
Make sure you say the words “overcharge” and “prosecutorial misconduct” and “disbar.” The second doesn’t really apply but it sounds good so get it in there a few times. Don’t cuss.
Wisconsin Bar Association:
(608) 257-3838
(800) 728-7788 (nationwide)

For those still on twitter, facebook, etc, please circulate widely, among both red and bluepilled.

Last edited 25 days ago by Vegetius
usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Vegetius
25 days ago

Immediately charging the kid with capital murder prior to any investigative work and/or all the facts are in is just another bullshit virtue signaling act by another soyboy liberal asswipe. These JOs are so predictably pathetic, and unknowingly are building their own funeral pyres. There simply are no real men in positions of power anymore.

Member
Reply to  usNthem
25 days ago

We often talk about gynocracy. Everything happening this year shows the real face of it. This is what a society run by women and man-bitches looks like. Hysterical, unhinged, cowardly, fearful, violent, and authoritarian all at once.

Frip
Member
Reply to  pozymandias
25 days ago

True and funny as hell.

Jackie Chiles
Jackie Chiles
Reply to  pozymandias
25 days ago

I called the WI bar authorities. Most recordings have assuring male voices pre-recorded. But all the actual available agents, working remotely, are females and, based upon my experiences, these womyn are Jill From HR.

Member
Reply to  Jackie Chiles
24 days ago

Glad to hear it JC. It’s great to have people like you working inside the system as attorneys on our side. We need to fight the Left on all fronts and lawfare is a vital one.

DR is Passive Death
DR is Passive Death
Reply to  usNthem
25 days ago

They are building our funeral pyres. They can do this because they really exist. The Right does not, certainly not a right that can meet the Left in the street. DR is a brilliant move, but not by the Right. DR my Dears is Moldbug et al (yes, THEM) and its just a pacifist version of the neocons. Why? Because if the Right or The White had 5% of the Lefts organizing ability it leads to… and we mustn’t let that happen. Instead it will happen to us. And it will. The minds that saw clearest were fatally paralyzed by… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  DR is Passive Death
25 days ago

I seriously doubt that – nice f-ing black pill though. There’s no facility that I’ll passing through, other than the gates of heaven…

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  DR is Passive Death
25 days ago

Well hello, Sunshine.

acetone
Member
Reply to  DR is Passive Death
24 days ago

Take it down a notch dude. Lots of plays left to be made in this game.
If you want to do something concrete now, start a family. If you have a family already, have another kid. If you are past that point in your life, help support yours friends and family that are raising children.

John Carter
John Carter
Reply to  Vegetius
25 days ago

They’re no longer answering the phone

Jackie Chiles
Jackie Chiles
Reply to  Vegetius
25 days ago

I called the ‘3838 number and they directed me to (608) 267-7274, which is the resource dedicated to lodging a formal complaint.

I called the ‘7274 number and I am pursuing the issue of filing a formal complaint through their “investigators.”

I have been polite and hope to continue in this manner until justice is done.

Jackie Chiles
Jackie Chiles
Reply to  Jackie Chiles
25 days ago

I should point out that I referenced my status, bar number, name, firm, and purpose as a member in good standing of the Illinois and other bars incl. patent bar and, gingerly, SCOTUS trial bar. Also the fact that I am a former key committee chair of ABA, Illinois and Chicago bar associations.

I’ll do what I can manage for this kid. Truly.

Archer
Archer
Reply to  Gespenst
25 days ago

Z Man said, “The fact is, looks matter. More precisely, presentation matters.” Look at how many young black males wear their pants low so their underwear shows and walk with one hand on their crotch. Add in neck tattoos and a grill and most of us rightly suspect criminal intent. That’s not racist. It is common sense. Moreover, it is what that black punk wants you to perceive. Kyle Rittenhouse is the opposite symbol. We need 100m more like him. Contribute to his defense. He had raised $83k when I donated this morning but the Nazis on the Left have… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
25 days ago

That is why those involved in dissident politics have always got to remember to be the friendly face to the skeptical public.

This is the key. The benefit is that, from what I have seen, leftists engaged in any form of ‘debate’ go straight for the jugular: the judgement is instant, the moral posturing as well. I have had many conversations with people – spurred by recent events in the US as well as Europe – where the friendly face has paid dividends. They may or may not have been convinced, but they didn’t outright reject what was being said.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
25 days ago

But my God it’s hard to maintain a pleasant disposition in the presence of these lowlifes.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
25 days ago

I’ve started referring to a certain basketball-American as “Black Supremacist Lebron James” around NormieCons. Getting a positive reaction from it.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  MemeWarVet
25 days ago

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Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Doug
25 days ago

and no reach-around for queen james! he went from being a power forward, to being a power bottom 😛

Last edited 25 days ago by Karl McHungus
RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Doug
25 days ago

Then you haven’t seen the latest: Kushner is reaching out to LeBron https://tinyurl.com/y54a4uo3 Take-away quote “let’s both figure out what we both want to accomplish and let’s come up with a common pathway to get there”

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  RoBG
25 days ago

If you expect nothing from kushner and his old lady, you’ll never be disappointed.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  RoBG
25 days ago

NBA gibbons shoot themselves in the foot, Jewred decides to cuck on behalf of Trump.

acetone
Member
Reply to  RoBG
24 days ago

Thats a super bad look from Kushner and no doubt worst case scenarios are possible from him.

On the other hand, ’tis election season. If we are to cuck hard, now until November is the time to do it. Supposedly minority polling is moving trumps direction. Maybe these outreach efforts are bearing fruit…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
25 days ago

Well, why not? He’s one of the poster children for Black Supremacist America.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
25 days ago

Kyle is a lot fitter than he looks 🙂 just a little residual baby fat i think. anyway, he was moving and scanning, while under fire, for a good few minutes. on the ground he was rotating and covering like 270 degrees of perimeter. this event, and poor Cannon Hinnant’s murder, are definitely the pebbles that are leading to an avalanche. what made this event so harmful to the left, is the total absence of negroes “in the frame”. it’s literally normal America fighting crazy perverted criminal hordes. and winning. the media will drop this soon, once the initial polling… Read more »

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

That was some stellar riflecraft – and an important side issue that deserves mention. Contrast and compare young master Kyle ‘s technique with that of the officer that shot Jacob Blake at arm’s length. Many, if not most civvies can outshoot the cops.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Glenfilthie
25 days ago

OMG, how many times have 5 or 6 cops fired off 80+ shots hitting several bystanders, if not the perp?! happens *all* the time.

anyone here not heard of the “Hollywood Shootout” between a pair of bank robbers, and the Hollywood police? do yourself a favor and watch it on youtube!

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

An only half-joke from an ex-NYPD elite services unit guy—and had several gunfights under his belt— “the only two safe places to be when an beat patrolman is shooting is directly in front or directly behind”

Diversity Heretic
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Reply to  thezman
25 days ago

The observation, if counterintuitive, is true. A shooter jerking a trigger is much more likely to land shots around the target than on it. A shooter who can concentrate on his front sight and a compressed trigger squeeze is deadly dangerous in a fight.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

The cops shot over 250 rounds into the car with the hostage in it! They hit the hostage like 10 times and the missed the bad guy entirely. They had some former cops do an “independent” evaluation. What a joke. They basically excused every excess and every failure to obey existing policy and, surprise, surprise, recommend they raise taxes and spend more money! There are 2 incidents that happened just in the last year that are pretty bad with the cops shooting up a neighborhood and a highway and using citizens as human shields like it was the OK Corral!… Read more »

Valley Lurker
Reply to  tarstarkas
25 days ago

Bank of the West, Stockton CA. The police let the perps leave the scene and then proceeded to have a roving gun battle on the streets the led to one of the hostages being killed. Want to say it was 5 years ago approximately.

Last edited 25 days ago by Valley Lurker
Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  Valley Lurker
25 days ago

Don’t forget the “Hollywood Shootout” back in the 90’s (which inspired the movie HEAT).

acetone
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
24 days ago

It was insane how close the antifa guys were to Kyle. There is no way, IMO, to train for gun fights at ranges of < 1 foot, while running and rolling around on the ground. I think the recommendation from a technique perspective would be to shoot the guys before they get this close. He was skilled and lucky to survive. I take it as a good omen!

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Glenfilthie
25 days ago

He “disarmed” the one he didn’t kill, too 😉

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Dutch
25 days ago

Frankly, i was amazed. He managed only shoot direct attackers. You get nervous in these situations and the spray and pray gets deployed more often than not. There is a phenomena of deer fever. The first buck you shoot- your hands tend to shake. This baby-faced, chubby kid managed to just shoot the right people. They head shot was reserved for the pedo. luck and poise. Gentleman, our killers are beginning to be spawned like white t-cells. You ever notice how every once in a while you fuk with the wrong person?

waitingForTheStorm
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

Whatever else is said, the riots stopped in Kenosha, at least thus far. A probability of death yields civility.

I believe that this fine young man and intrepid patriot should be commended for performing a valuable and necessary public service. Free Kyle.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  waitingForTheStorm
25 days ago

he probably saved more than three lives, by popping the three perverts.

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  waitingForTheStorm
25 days ago

Free Kyle.

Tell it, Waiting! For half a century we’ve been hearing lefties using the “Free X” sympathy extraction app. “Free Huey!” “Free the East Cloaca 500!”

We can make hay with the same kind of messaging.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Gravity Denier
25 days ago

Anyone out there marketing free Kyle merch yet? I’d LOVE to see that become a normie thing.

Impossible to overstate what a huge redpill that would be.

actually just YELLING “free kyle!” At sporting events or whenever news reporters are around would be huge.

next MAGA speech “free kyle” should be the new “build the wall”

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  waitingForTheStorm
25 days ago

#IStandWithKyle

#SayTheirNames

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

And no one will care about a couple of dirty white boys getting whacked. No baby mommas will get trotted out say they were good boys who just made a few poor decisions earlier in life and then a really bad one recently. I imagine a large number of people are secretly glad some of these scabs are finally getting some just desserts.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  usNthem
25 days ago

i know i am 🙂 especially the midget!

Jacques Lebeau
Member
Reply to  usNthem
25 days ago

Delighted!

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  usNthem
25 days ago

“And no one will care about a couple of dirty white boys getting whacked.”

(((White))) boys.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  usNthem
25 days ago

The media have surely been trying though. Search their names and you’ll find plenty of articles about what wonderful folk they were.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

It doesn’t hurt that his attackers (those targeted by his rifle work) were white and criminal. I’ve been saying for awhile that retribution/counter-attack should initially be focused against the “good whites.” Obviously this is a case in extremis and spontaneity, but the result is clear. Leftist white “victims” will garner little support (if not open disdain) from normie whites and only lip service from the myopic blacks. The only people screeching about this are leftist circles in an echo chamber. Where Our Quislings can be harmed/hindered… do so. Isolate Our enemy’s elements individually by vulnerability and then roll them up… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Penitent Man
25 days ago

I’ve been saying for awhile that retribution/counter-attack should initially be focused against the “good whites.”
Yes, because being white Judah is the only time when whitey gets a pat on the back, this element must be removed from white society.

Last edited 25 days ago by sentry
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
24 days ago

Every white and (((white))) shitlib killed, jailed, or otherwise incapacitated, probably leads to 3 or 4 minorities being demobilized from these fights as well. Blacks are easy to despise but the Left just uses them as human shields and battering rams. Taking out the white shitbags who organize, direct, and arm these swarthy goons pays multiples of what you put in.

whitney
Member
25 days ago

The current Representatives of our side, Kyle Ritterhouse and Nick Sandman, are filled with the promise of Youth, innocence and goodness . It is a profound contrast to what you see on the other side. Things really are beginning to resemble Lord of the Rings

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  whitney
25 days ago

With CNN’s Jeff Zucker as Grima Wormtongue.

CF Omally
CF Omally
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

I always thought of Kershner as Wormtongue.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  CF Omally
25 days ago
Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

Ah, excuse me, but I think you owe the Uruk-hai an apology.

Valley Lurker
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

That little (((doughboy))) Stetler always struck me as wormtongue like.

Tim from Nashua
Tim from Nashua
Reply to  whitney
24 days ago

It has been reported (in The Hill) that Nick Sandman has joined Mitch McConnell’s re-election campaign in some capacity. Hope he isn’t being groomed to be another Charlie Kirk.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Tim from Nashua
23 days ago

I’d hate to see Sandmann become a typical ConInc. shill, and besides being useless to Whites, McConnell’s Han wife is a major grifter.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Tim from Nashua
23 days ago

I saw that. We are all corruptible. We can pray for him and hopefully he will be praying also

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
25 days ago

re: optics; notice how ugly most of the left are! especially their orc hordes. all of these individuals really need to be euthanized as there is no practical way of making them useful to society in any way…

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

In particular leftist women do tend to be ugly. I am quite sure that former Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi also said something along these lines. I have to say that there probably is no curse greater than being an ugly woman; if you have been beaten with the ugly stick, why not fall back on a set of politics that give you a goal that does not require finding a man. This politics makes you even more undesirable – the vicious circle.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  OrangeFrog
25 days ago

more than one book (assuming you consider romance novels as qualifying) has been written about a homely women finally (FINALLY!) finding true love with her handsome wealthy prince, after a lifetime of mean treatment. it is definitely a hard road to follow, just ask Janis Joplin (voted most homely girl in her HS class. yeah, that’s how America rolled in the early 60’s).

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

I had forgotten what Janis Joplin looked like. I googled her… Thanks a bunch for that image. Poor girl couldn’t be flattered by any angle, it appears.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

an aquaintance of mine went to high school with Janis; not only homely looking, but a serious alcoholic who hung with the roughest crowd in the school.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

Yeah, Joplin could give a mud fence ugly lessons but DAMN! could she sing!

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Bill Mullins
25 days ago

Janis had a fling with Leonard Cohen, who is as ugly as she is. In his song “Chelsea Hotel #2” about the fling, he wrote:

You told me again you prefer handsome men,
But for me you would make an exception.
And clenching your fist for the ones like us
Who are oppressed by the figures of beauty
You fixed yourself, you said “Well nevermind,
We are ugly but we have the music”

Hieronymous Schnreckensnatz-Obermeier III
Hieronymous Schnreckensnatz-Obermeier III
Reply to  LineInTheSand
23 days ago

On a talk show about ten years ago, Cohen said that he got into bed with a drunk Joplin in the late ’60s by telling her he was Kris Kristofferson. An ugly moment, but the studio audience laughed, as if it were all part of his stylized nihilist charm.

Gespenst
Gespenst
Reply to  Bill Mullins
25 days ago

If getting intoxicated and screaming is singing, yes, Janis Joplin could sing.

Royaliste
Royaliste
Reply to  Bill Mullins
24 days ago

Janis Joplin was certainly no great beauty, but I wouldn’t call her ugly, either. Nothing that a good haircut, makeup & attention to wardrobe couldn’t fix. Mary Matalin is not a classically beautiful woman, but she looks great because she is always impeccably groomed.

Sputnik
Sputnik
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

That’s how my h.s. rolled in the 80’s. Our class incessantly picked on the ugly girls. The ugliest was never called her name, just “Yoda.” The cruelist treatment administered came from the queers. It was disgusting.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  OrangeFrog
25 days ago

At least the Leftist beastie women who protest are ugly. I have known a few hottie normie-ish progressive gals. While they virtue signal like a lighthouse in a storm, they do not set foot outside their gated community bubbles. But they are cute.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  c matt
25 days ago

they are just fair weather lefties; AKA useful idiots. sometimes referred to as the soft left. and a lot of them are cute. super insipid though,, and inordinately interested in pegging.

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  c matt
25 days ago

These women are also very easy — especially if you’re assertive as they’re used to being around soyboys and homosexuals who make up a large chunk of their social circles.

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  OrangeFrog
25 days ago

The majority of leftist women are without a doubt, ugly. There’s no question about this. They’re just as ugly on the inside as the outside.

b123
b123
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

17 year old upstanding citizen white kid (with impressive combat skills) takes down 3 pedos/criminals with creepy, foreign, Bolshevik sounding names like Rosenbaum, Grosskreutz and Huber. Hmm…

No wonder there has been almost no mention of them. Black media just says “BLM protesters”, implying the victims were black.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  b123
25 days ago

Er, Rittenhouse was originally “Rittenhaus”. Rosenbaum was the Jew, the other two are German goyim. In fact, all those names are German, which is not surprising given the geography.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  thezman
25 days ago

I read that his father is Jewish, but not mom. And I agree that “Rosetree” is not necessarily a Jewish name. I was going by what I read. I’ll try to find the source.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  thezman
25 days ago

irrespective of the fellow now residing on the autopsy table in the morgue, many european family names have a christian, and a jewish variant. e.g. : “Jacobson” and “Jacobsen”.

also, sometimes a person who is not jewish, ends up with a jewish surname because a male ancestor was adopted by a jewish step father. i know a person like this 😛

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

Jacobsen is not Jewish, it’s Danish.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
25 days ago

…or Norwegian.

-son = Swedish
-sen = Danish or Norwegian.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Felix Krull
25 days ago

really? what’s jacobson then? is their a jewish variant of jaconsen?

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

There are no Jewish “variants” of European names, that would defy the purpose of adopting the local name in the first place. Most Ashkenazi names – like Rosenbaum – are simply adopted German ones.

That’s why the Nazis planned to have all Jews to adopt the middle name “Israel”, if you were a man, or “Sarah”, if you were a woman.

<i>what’s jacobson then</i>

Swedish, although often Swedish son-names are spelled with a double s. i.e.: Jacobsson.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
25 days ago

Hmmm, what’s your real name “Mr. Krull” ?

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  David Wright
25 days ago

I’m the Felix Krull – the definite article, if you will. The guy purporting to relate my memoir is a shameless impostor.

Ganderson
Ganderson
Reply to  Felix Krull
25 days ago

My last name lost an ‘s’ at Ellis island.
Felix- bor du i Danmark?

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Ganderson
25 days ago

Ja, I København.

ZerohTollrants
ZerohTollrants
Reply to  thezman
25 days ago

“The Irish would change their names to sound white.”

Damn. Way harsh, bro. I’m only like 7% potato jogger and even I’m not cool with that, lol.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  thezman
24 days ago

Jews with the last name, Green, for instance, are usually Greenbergs or such like.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  thezman
25 days ago

I’ve known a number of Rosenbaums and they have all been Jewish.

Just Another Rightwing Wolverine
Just Another Rightwing Wolverine
Reply to  Vizzini
25 days ago

I was raised in a West Michigan port town. It’s changed materially since then, but at the time half the town was German and the other half was mostly strict Dutch Reformed. By German or Dutch, I mean these folks were post-WWII immigrants, mostly engineers and farmers. All our several Rosenbaum and other ‘baum families were pure Christian extract, given their large number, none was a small hat wearer or descended thereof. Despite being dinky albeit rich and well-educated in our town generally, we nearly always won the State at academics — quiz bowl, engineering, science, math olympiad etc. —… Read more »

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Just Another Rightwing Wolverine
24 days ago

My experiences were all in a heavily Jewish area of NJ, so I guess the demographics were different.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
24 days ago

Are there any areas of Jersey that are NOT heavily Jewish?

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  thezman
23 days ago

Lenny Bruce said that Barry Goldwater’s father was the only Jew to change his religion and keep his name (altho anglicized from Goldwasser).

b123
b123
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

Well, to a cracker like myself it sounds like a foreign creepy Bolshevik name.

This is a good thing for our side as well. Raises more suspicion.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

Is that something you actually know?

German and Jewish names are often indistinguishable; when the Jews came to Germany from Poland and Belorussia, they took German names so they could play the “my fellow Germans”-game, just like grandpa Rittenhaus americanized his name.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Felix Krull
25 days ago

My BIL has a very Jewish name (maybe a Jewish grandfather I think). Meet him in person and he’s as close to a redneck as you can get in New England (“Townie” is the official designation). He occasionally attends a Congregational Church. Good guy.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Drake
25 days ago

Let me guess–Sidney Finkelstein.

Ripple
Ripple
Reply to  Felix Krull
25 days ago

And let’s not forget that one of Hitler’s main henchmen was named Alfred Rosenberg.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
24 days ago

It’s actually something I know. Jews who came into the German Empire were forced to assume certain names for the sake of identification. “Wiesel”, for example, or “Kaufmann”. Over time, standards were relaxed, intermarriage occurred, and here we are. The NSDAP attempted to put the clock back, as you know. Here in the US, I knew a Jewish guy named Foster whose great-grandparents came from Poland. Their actual name was Posterowitz, but the official on Ellis Island registered them as Foster so others would be able to spell or pronounce their name. They kept it.

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Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
24 days ago

I see – interesting. But I was referring to Rittenhaus being German rather than Jewish.

And it still doesn’t mean you can determine Jewish ancestry just by looking at the surname. Wiesel and Kaufmann are German names, as is Rosenbaum.

I wonder if there even is such a thing as an authentic Jewish surname. They all seem to be German, Polish or Russian, and some cultures (like pre-Christian Scandinavia) don’t have surnames.

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Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
24 days ago

So I googled about a bit, and it seems there are only three original Jewish surnames: Cohen, Levy and Israel – Cohen, coincidentally, also being an Irish name.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Felix Krull
24 days ago

Lipshitz sounds pretty authentic

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
24 days ago

Rouged up, it appears as Lipset, Lipsit, etc.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
24 days ago

I’d imagine Cohen (Coen, Kahan, Kahn) and Shapiro are truly Jewish names.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
23 days ago

Life would be much simpler if they would just wear a yellow star.

Von
Von
Reply to  Epaminondas
24 days ago

This is similar to happenstance for my family surname. The first male family member drew one interrogator who assigned the surname spelling with a “K.” The second male drew a different interrogator who assigned his surname spelling with a “G.” They were blood brothers who entered from the same ship at the same time and our family has two different names as a consequence. We were just effing grateful to be accepted here and so we never consolidated the surname.

acetone
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
24 days ago

Wife’s maiden name is a very jewish sounding german name. So much so that we are receive jewish literature in the mail soliciting donations for various causes.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  acetone
24 days ago

So much so that we are receive jewish literature in the mail soliciting donations for various causes.

LOL!

#AllStereotypesAreTrue.

ZerohTollrants
ZerohTollrants
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

Huber can be both a German surname as well as a Jew name. I thought the Jew kid was the Huber one because of that gigantic beak. Who knows. When I first began researching my ancestry about 20 yrs ago, I was shocked at how many Jews had the same surname. Very disheartening.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  b123
25 days ago

Rosenbaum is a surname of German origin, which translates as “rose tree” and which was given to people living in the proximity of rose bushes. The surname is common among Ashkenazi Jews, but is also associated with various non-Jews of German origin.

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  b123
25 days ago

…takes down 3 pedos/criminals with creepy, foreign, Bolshevik sounding names like Rosenbaum, Grosskreutz and Huber. This White kid is a HERO. He did what society should have done years ago to these three pedos/criminals. They should have been publicly hung like their brethren, “Saint” Floyd. It’s a real shame that we no longer conduct public executions or other forms of punishment such as canings, lashings, etc. We don’t necessarily have to implement Sharia Law, but even if we do something similar to what the National Corps does to public drunks, druggies, and other degenerates in Ukraine sure would be a… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  b123
25 days ago

This whole event increasingly looks like a divine benison.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

Check out the mugshots on Andy Ngo’s twitter feed. Lots of asymmetrical faces just sayin’.

Also lots of millennials, a decent number of Xers, a handful of boomers and zoomers for those interested in the generational angle. Basically people of fighting age.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
25 days ago

Basically people with raging hormones.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

More zoomers than I remembered. Yep, hormones.

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  Paintersforms
25 days ago

A lot of unmarried, underemployed Xers have for some reason decided that THIS is the one cause they are going to actually engage with.

Maybe it’s a midlife thing, the most reverse-Porsche action imaginable, I don’t know…

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Vegetius
25 days ago

or maybe someone is paying them to do it now.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Vegetius
25 days ago

Who knows. Whacked out people do whacked out things I guess.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Paintersforms
25 days ago

They all look like the circus left town without them, to me.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

I think you’re missing some subtleties. In the economic realm, the war is the rich and the poor against the middle. The same rule applies to women’s political affliliations.

The best looking and the ugliest women are leftists. The sweet spot in the middle is with us, more or less.

Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  LineInTheSand
25 days ago

This sounds like something that Tucker Carlson has recently said?

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

leftists really need to be euthanized as there is no practical way of making them useful to society in any way
Musk or Gates will ask leftists to become soylent green, they’ll say yes!!

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  sentry
23 days ago

First dibs on their Furniture!

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b123
b123
25 days ago

Yes sir. Optics matter. I’m a friendly white guy, decently dressed, in decent shape, no tattoos. A good representative of my people, so to speak. No 1776 stickers on my car or Gadsden flags at my house (or confed/nazi). I don’t brag about the firearms I own. I don’t sperg out at random coloured people. Some say I’m almost too “perfect” – what skeletons do I have in my closet? But if I were attacked, I’m just a friendly innocent white guy maimed by angry coloured mobs (or in this case, white/Jewish mobs). This story is great because he’s just… Read more »

BTP
Member
Reply to  b123
25 days ago

Agree. It’s because he was doing the CivNat, NormieCon thing and merely defended himself against an obvious and immediate threat to his life that Lin Wood is on the case. In the case where NRO sniffs out which way the wind is blowing and supports Kyle, we will have a real victory.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  BTP
25 days ago

A 2A guy (presumably), beyond being part of the only group that has successfully conserved anything, strikes a huge blow in the culture war. Maybe they’re onto something.

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Amwolf
Amwolf
Reply to  b123
25 days ago

You my friend are practicing superb situational awareness and are the epitome of the “gray man”. Keep up the great work.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  b123
25 days ago

Love it.

Wonder when the left is going to figure out that just as a man who declines to drink in a bar must paradoxically be an alcoholic therefore…

A man who refuses to brag about his guns must be a closet firearm enthusiast?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
25 days ago

Another useful lesson here is that the enemy is not a collection of super-intelligent super-villains. They often get high off their own supply.  On top of the very good practical advice you offered, this is the most important point to me. Our enemies are powerful but incredibly stupid. It may have been a misimpression, but they seemed much brighter in the past. Perhaps they became mentally lazy after seizing power? As is the case with the biggest idiots, they live in a bubble and tell each other they are smart and that adds to this vulnerability. We saw this play… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Jack Dobson
25 days ago

> Don’t let it be, and mention it to friends, family and on social media and the Internet.
The Court of Facebook has already stated their verdict, and said they would delete any post supportive of Kyle.

Roberto
Roberto
Reply to  Chet Rollins
25 days ago

My fb post with donation info for Kyle is still up and getting some likes from friends.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Jack Dobson
25 days ago

We may be able to thank legalized marijuana in many States. The whites who gravitate to BLM or Antifa are not known for avoiding the weed Cannabis is a pretty tame drug as drugs go, but it’s also not known to spur intelligence, initiative, or good judgment 🙂

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
25 days ago

those guys are using meth or PCP, not weed. tojo didn’t give the troops malt liquor and weed before a bonzai charge 🙂

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
25 days ago

Portland is the weed capitol of the country, which attracts a certain kind of person. It is no accident that the worst riots are happening in the weed capitol.

One of my best friends lives in Portland. Although he is a capable entrepreneur, his highest value in life is legal weed. I love the guy, but he deserves to have his house burned down. I’ll light the match.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  LineInTheSand
25 days ago

For now.

Can’t get into an elevator in a decent hotel in Denver without being overpowered by the noxious odor of spent marijuana smoke.

Coming soon to an elevator near you, I’m sure.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  ProZNoV
24 days ago

Denver is the Amsterdam of the midwest! It always looks like a Grateful Dead concert is playing, there now.

acetone
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
24 days ago

Same thing happened to one of my buddies in Seattle. The life he lives now is shell of what it was 15 years ago. Weed is super addictive for some folks. Its breaking my heart to see it.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
25 days ago

Then we must build jails for every 2A hunter in Texas, Michigan, and Kentucky!

Good thing the psychological warfare- lockdowns, masks, media, and (((left-funded))) feminist judges didn’t do any damage.

Keep punching right for the WIN

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Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
24 days ago

People say that a lot of this behavior is hysterical. I wonder if this is psychotic, a group or mass psychosis, in the clinical sense of the term. I am not talking about the new foot-washing cult, but the people actually out tearing things up in the street. Hypothesis: the long-term effects of ideological conditioning, plus the dopamine cycles produced by social media plus daily, super-strong, vaporized marijuana use, plus the years-long paranoid Russiagate hoax equals at a minimum hundreds of thousands of people who were well-prepared for a mental health episode. To this, add months of plague propaganda, the… Read more »

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Jack Dobson
25 days ago

Kyle will likely be helped by the consistency of his good image being replicated on social media. But this is a rare thing. Social media is dangerous. The downside is some multiple of its utility. We need to be steering kids away from the chambers of the satanic people who hate them at every opportunity. Each account is a self-constructing opposition research dossier. One bad “optics” moment and the mainstream media and public courts will turn a good kid into a monster. We debate the wisdom of a kid being out at night with a gun, but there are millions… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jack Dobson
25 days ago

To be fair, our enemy’s foot soldiers are idiots. Not so sure about the generals. Although I think the generals may have miscalculated how much control they have over the lower ranks. We shall see.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Jack Dobson
25 days ago

The foot-soldiers and propaganda-purveyors may not be that smart, but their masters are. Otherwise they wouldn’t have taken control of media, corporations, banking, the military, etc. so easily.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  RoBG
24 days ago

nah, it was easy to do. the soft left oldies were a push over for the hard left.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  RoBG
24 days ago

The “masters” don’t control the mobs.

acetone
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
24 days ago

Not sure I agree with you. I think our enemies are pretty smart. Don’t get to control the entire apparatus of the US goverment, deep state, big business without make some good decisions. Their guys getting killed/arrested at these protests are their disposable shock troops.

Marko
Marko
25 days ago

Last night I was texting with an old friend who has moved leftward. He started off by saying that Tucker will be cancelled for siding with Kyle. Later on he wrote that “If a black guy had done it, entire groups would be deemed terrorists”. It was so ass-backward I didn’t even know how to react. So I let it go and moved onto other things. But it gave me a good reminder American whites are basically two people now: the leftist ones who cling to old civil rights ideas, and the civic nationalist ones who cling to old libertarian… Read more »

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MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Marko
25 days ago

Curious – what made this friend move Leftward?

Doug
Doug
Reply to  MemeWarVet
25 days ago

I would guess overexposure to FakeBook.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  MemeWarVet
25 days ago

Lack of intelligence, no intellectual curiosity, too much passive consumption of propaganda, etc. Basically your average normie American. I have several friends from HS who would copiously use ‘the N word’ and could very clearly tell you the difference between a black male and an N. Today? They’d be clutching their pearls at the mere thought of any of it relating to their new god, blacks. Remember, this has been positioned through 24×7 mass indoctrination to be a religious cult and it is exactly that. You aren’t going to break a cultist out of their devotion and the fact that… Read more »

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Apex Predator
25 days ago

That is time you could be investing in the salvageable.

The word you’re looking for is “triage”.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Apex Predator
25 days ago

Exactly. This old friend actually put a line from a Nazi (the “reach for my gun” quote) in the freaking yearbook, and all our chats prior to 2020 seemed to suggest he was race-realist. But now he has a BLM sign in his yard. I don’t know why he’s moved leftward but he is certainly charmed by the antiracist movement.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Marko
25 days ago

There’s pussy involved in that. Whipped that is.

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Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
Reply to  Tom K
25 days ago

“If a black guy had done it, entire groups would be deemed terrorists”

How out of touch do you have to be to realize that black guys do this kind of stuff EVERY FU*KING DAY!

Your friend is hopeless. Get new friends, pronto!

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Marko
25 days ago

There are a lot of cultural conservatives , note the small C who are really weak . They either want to get eaten last or are terrified by the implications of ethnic and religious groups that cannot under any circumstances share a polity . Any sane person would be, Bosnia x Rwanda is no joke. Some are Civ Nats who genuinely believe in magic dirt. Many have terrible cognitive dissonance with the idea that for the most part with a few exceptions, politics is genetic and racial and regression to the mean will end up with the vast majority being… Read more »

acetone
Member
Reply to  Marko
24 days ago

Where does he live, what does he do for living, who is his wife? There you will find the answers to your friends evolution.

Member
Reply to  Apex Predator
25 days ago

You’ve got a large pool of young whites out there raised by women and weak men without any moral reference points. Before the beer flu panic though, most had jobs and placed to go when not at work. They were aimless, drunken, weed smoking, morally bankrupt human flotsam. Now without work or places to go to spend their money they’ve been mobilized by the BLM and antifa cult. The cult offers a morality and focus of sorts, albeit a twisted one. It also offers these mass public gatherings which replace the closed bars and nightclubs as places to get wasted… Read more »

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Marko
25 days ago

you should try and bang this friend’s GF, if she isn’t to fugly (or has herpes). strike a blow for freedom and all…

whitney
Member
Reply to  Marko
25 days ago

I can’t believe you still have leftist friends. Kyle Rittenhouse’ battle the other night showed that this is actually a civil war between white people. You’re consorting with the Enemy

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  whitney
25 days ago

I have liberal neighbors who might try to harm me in a civil conflict. Otherwise, they are kind and responsible. Should I wait for the first shot? We eye one another uneasily these days…

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

Yes indeed. Always quite disheartening to know that the fellow you used to have a friendly chat with and who did a few favours for you will dob you into the law in a heartbeat because ‘racist’ or ‘sexist’ or ‘gun owner’ or whatever you fancy…

This of course just shows how far things have fallen. When a set of people can’t just function socially because the insanity of the politics gets in the way. And this insanity comes entirely from the left.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

Well, if you’re asking my advice it would be don’t shoot your neighbor just yet

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

Don’t do stupid and illegal things obviously. But if it comes to the worst case scenario, the law won’t natter and no more brother wars doesn’t apply till after the its all over. Also its important that we learn something to the small hats, there is absolutely no time limit of paying the price for the other guys, war criminals all. Ninety three years old? We don’t care. There will be no mercy , no pity and no let no matter how long it takes. Obviously the goal is to try and avoid this but our society is very ill… Read more »

Member
Reply to  abprosper
25 days ago

No guilt, no regrets, no forgiveness, no mercy.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  whitney
25 days ago

This. As the holiness requirements of leftism escalates toward the singularity of equalitydiversity, these “normie” leftists will do whatever it takes to preserve their standing within the cult. They question of these “friends” choosing the cult over their non-believer friends is not if, but when.

In my own circle I have been methodically downgrading these friends into acquaintances over the years. I dont treat them as enemies overtly but I do view them as instruments of the enemy and thus mitigate and minimize my exposure to them and the tentacles of their various causes.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Screwtape
25 days ago

you have to be this way, for your own safety. why wait for things to get ugly to do what is inevitable.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
25 days ago

Rittenhouse has provided a template for others to copy. We are going to see “hunters” waiting for antifa to show up, and then gunning them down. with no witnesses. in the sense that no local person will out the shooters. if the left persists, then the death squads form. if you weren’t around for the carnage in central america, circa the late 70’s, early to mid 80’s, then read about it, or watch any of the many decent movies about it.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

The problem is how to lure Antifa out into the countryside.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

Fake Soros email account. Promise of free weed and pizza. That’s been their usual modus operandi.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Doug
24 days ago

Free weed and pad thai.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

they are like zombies; they just wander everywhere eventually. judging by results so far, they will never make it to the countryside as they keep getting beat to shit in the suburbs. they did send a suicide squad into Sturgis recently; all members were cornholed and gaped…

v_cog
v_cog
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

lmao did they really venture up to Sturgis recently?? I missed that one. Poor bastards, it’s almost enough to make you feel sorry for them.

Almost.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
Reply to  v_cog
25 days ago
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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  v_cog
24 days ago

No. Not even almost. Let them burn.

Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

I predict Antifa will march on the suburbs, exurbs, and countryside if/when Trump is reelected. That’s how to lure them out.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
25 days ago

That’s a sucker bet if ever I heard one. Only problem is, the way I have it figured, Biden’s election is a foregone conclusion. This bodes to be the most fraudulent election in the history of fraudulent elections. I figure the left is not only gonna pull out all the stops, they’re busy inventing NEW ways to steal the election. With the lapdog MSM aiding and abetting them, where’s the down side?

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Bill Mullins
25 days ago

The same post office that warns you not to send cash through the mail is going to handle your vote fairly? Granted, cash is more valuable than a vote, but still . . . .

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
25 days ago

Yep, they’re going to double down on failure until they’re finished.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

Some recently made that mistake in the middle of PA on their way to some rioting somewhere else. Got out of the cars in a small town and started the chanting shit. Were provided some helpful directions courtesy of a local that popped off a few rounds in their direction.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  SamlAdams
25 days ago

That’s why they call it Pennsyltucky 🙂

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ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  SamlAdams
25 days ago

In all seriousness, it might be an excellent time to stock up on blanks….aka “acoustic ammunition”.

While technically illegal to even discharge blanks in most municipal districts, I’d GUESS that the penalties for discharging a blank into the air is much less severe (administrative action?) than actual bullets/grapeshot.

There’s a reason the St. Louis attorneys waved around unloaded/disabled firearms and aren’t currently in jail.

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

They seem to be heading that way on their own. God help them, this is only prelude if that happens.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
24 days ago

They are just crazed enough that the tantalus may not be necessary.

v_cog
v_cog
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

“hunters” lol I got that reference 😉

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  v_cog
25 days ago

an entire new product line for the Duck Dynasty clan to manufacturer 😛

Epaminondas
Member
25 days ago

Another feather in our cap is the fact that Lin Wood, Nick Sandmann’s attorney, has offered to work for Kyle Rittenhouse pro bono. I have heard other lawyers are stepping up. That’s a good sign. The Legend of Kyle Rittenhouse is growing…

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Epaminondas
25 days ago

We should replace a destroyed confederate statue with a statue of Kyle.
As great as antiquity is, modern times also require modern heroes and myths.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Chet Rollins
25 days ago

Kyle as he was putting one into the midget rapist’s head. the latter will be carved with a look of immense surprise on that demon baby face.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
24 days ago

Remember Rittenhouse.

Arrest Gaige
Arrest Gaige
25 days ago

Charging this kid with capital murder is so outrageous and evil, it makes the kid into a symbol of everything that is wrong.

Gaige Grosskreutz is actually the one who should be arrested for attempted murder, but of course he won’t be.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Arrest Gaige
25 days ago

His Facebook posts about regretting, “not emptying his mag,” will be a goldmine for Kyle’s defense team.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
25 days ago

and federal prosecutors

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

What ARE you toking? Thinking the feds (DOiJ) would get involved in any capacity except to prosecute young Rittenhouse. I figure there are 2 chances of the feds prosecuting anybody but the real victim – anorexic and morbidly obese.

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Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Bill Mullins
25 days ago

all that means is you have a different guess than i do. we won’t have to wait long to find out who guessed best.

v_cog
v_cog
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
25 days ago

I saw that, it was not a quote from Gaige directly but a secondhand comment from his friend quoting what Gaige supposedly said. Compelling ammunition for the information war, but I’m dubious about how useful it would be in a court of law.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  v_cog
25 days ago

different rules of evidence,in the court of public opinion 😛

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
25 days ago

This is not the first crime in which Facebook, Twitter and other social media come back to haunt the accused or even collaterally involved people. Good luck getting youth to accept this advice, indeed any good advice, but: think very carefully about what you post on social media, because it lasts forever. Given the risks of “doxing” these days, I would not be surprised if even anonymous (on the surface) media such as this isn’t at similar risks. Not blaming Z for any security lapses, but it’s probably none too paranoid to note that Big Brother could easily monitor us… Read more »

v_cog
v_cog
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
25 days ago

VPNs are your friend

sentry
sentry
25 days ago

Cops are pigs, they don’t care about you, even if you are right, IT DOES NOT MATTER, they are the system’s enforcers. The juridical system is filled with women who are looking to punish white men who fight for their rights. In fact many whites(men or women) can’t stand seeing white men beating up black men, IT DOES NOT MATTER IF BLACK DESERVES IT. This is a REALITY, if you go charging at monkeys, media will have a field day with you, you will end up destroyed by the system, you will ACHIEVE NOTHING BECAUSE YOU ARE A SECOND CLASS… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  sentry
25 days ago

Yup.

Just look at the goodwhite cucking out over a patriotic removal of a Burn, Loot, Murder sign:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Rochester/comments/ihj36u/seriously_scottsville_surprised_the_snowflake_who/

v_cog
v_cog
Reply to  sentry
25 days ago

Consider the irony of posting a comment filled with caps and underlines, references to pigs and monkeys etc on a post about optics.

I’m on your side brother, but I urge you to consider how you come across if you comment in this style in places outside of this blog. That said, I’m looking forward to listening to the M20C show this weekend. Big fan of those guys and of James LaFond, always entertaining.

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  v_cog
25 days ago

Seconded.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  v_cog
25 days ago

Don’t you worry about me, I don’t plan on becoming a public figure who represents white nationalists. You remind me of atheist subverters who claim I can’t be a christian cause I have a great dislike for many people. “A christian would love everybody, you are no true christian!” “That’s between me and Jesus! None of your business!” I am very outspoken about my feelings, which is not a bad thing imo, but I know the elites wish to stir up the whites because they wanna make them look bad, I am just saying to not get tricked by their… Read more »

v_cog
v_cog
Reply to  sentry
25 days ago

Alright, to each his own I suppose. There are so few of us in the first place that I’m hesitant about “tone policing” people on our side even when I feel it’s justified.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  v_cog
25 days ago

know what the first rule about a drowning person is? don’t get near them, they will drag you down. why do you think lifeguards have a buoy on a 30 foot rope?

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

You’re thinking of a Rescue Tube, not a Buoy, but to get your WSI/Lifeguard certification you (used to) have to demonstrate that you can rescue someone w/o an aid and perform first aid when you bring them in. Nonetheless it was a desireable job for a college-age kid or someone who got summers off.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  v_cog
25 days ago

i didn’t read the post because i didn’t want spittle on my laptop screen.

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  v_cog
25 days ago

I don’t see the irony. It’s not like he’s posting on a forum that more than .00000001% of the population has ever heard of..

David Wright
Member
25 days ago

Walking around recently seeing everyone in a mask reminded me of the Harlon Ellison short story title ” I have no mouth and I must scream” It feels like that in many ways with no outlet for my outrage except commenting here and there on like minded forums. The ignored atrocities of the five year old boy being murdered or the fender bender killer killing that white couple are just the tip. Where would this seventeen yearold Kyle Rittenhouse fit into a narrative if he was at the founding of our country. There would eventually be statues being one of… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  David Wright
25 days ago

I’m shopping for a Colt Arms AR-15 or equivalent. I’m trained in the use of a very similar weapon, even if it was four decades ago.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
25 days ago

Good luck with that. Guy I know got a Daniel Defense rifle only because he was on their mailing list and acted immediately. Entire stock was sold out in a couple hours. Retailers are on allocation, according to one I talked with.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
25 days ago

Looking at a Ruger mini-14 m’self. Never did like the Armalite even though, like you, I was trained (and shot expert) on it.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  David Wright
25 days ago

At best we get four more years of some Trump and a lot of Kirschner.

From where I sit four more years of Trump and Kirschner beats the HELL outta ANY amount of Biden and Harris! How many weeks/months you figure it’ll take them to execute the 25th Amendment coup on Dopey/Gropey Joe?

Member
Reply to  Bill Mullins
25 days ago

If Biden wins and dies soon after I’m really hoping the Dems soak him in formaldehyde and call in some of their buddies from Silly Valley to put a speaker in his throat, hook him up with hydraulics, and play Weekend at Biden’s as long as they can. A dead nation deserves a dead President.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  pozymandias
24 days ago

It worked the last four years for RBG. Why not Biden?

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  pozymandias
24 days ago

No need for him to die. I am convinced that the real purpose of the 25th Amendment was to to provide for a faster legal coup process than the founders provided in the impeachment process outlined in Article I of the Constitution. Those guys were more than smart enough to recognize the need for a.legal way to depose a sitting president. I figure the 25th amendment is just a faster, less “messy” way to.effect a coup but with a wrapper that was palatable to the general public. The problem with a 25th Amendment coup is that it requires the POTUS… Read more »

ZerohTollrants
ZerohTollrants
Reply to  David Wright
25 days ago

When I’m frustrated, I text my hubby that I will be screaming in the garage, don’t be alarmed. It’s pretty good as a quick outlet.

v_cog
v_cog
25 days ago

Right on with the optics. Makes me wonder what the hell the dissidents of a generation ago were thinking, with their “fight me” posture and overt wignat symbolism. For two decades now the overriding image most people held of dissidents was David Duke on the Jerry Springer show.

It was so incredibly dumb that it makes me seriously question how many of that cohort were fed plants intentionally trying to make all of us look like clowns. Had to be more than a few.

BTP
Member
Reply to  v_cog
25 days ago

Maybe. On the other hand, defense of a people often needs to be unconscious and automatic instead of deliberate and considered. You do that with, well, hate.

Just like antibodies attack invaders, but can’t explain why they do it, the old hatreds may have been an optimal response to the problem of infiltration by untrustworthy outsiders. But one side effect is that people couldn’t explain why they were acting like they were.

v_cog
v_cog
Reply to  BTP
25 days ago

Yeah I get it. I don’t totally blame that cohort for going in the direction they did. Put in the context of the time, there weren’t many outlets for people to express their concern over the future of our race, and virtually no way to do so anonymously. So the only people with the balls to speak out publicly were the ones with enough emotion (i.e. “hatred”) to do so. I guess I just wish that they had been more effective in what they were trying to accomplish, but no sense crying over spilled milk. I should just be happy… Read more »

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Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  v_cog
25 days ago

Steady. If you don’t know what things were like before the internet, you can’t understand what things were like before the internet. It’s like sex or lsd. The totalitarian nature of broadcast media was (and remains) almost impossible for average people to grasp. And the absence of social media made it almost impossible for above average people to warn them. White people, being generally sincere and still deep in the cave, did not understand that the fight they were fighting wasn’t about the fight, it was about the way images from the fight would be presented. This was why the… Read more »

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PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
Reply to  Vegetius
25 days ago

Yes Yes Yes …. I try to explain this to the younger folks 18-35) with whom I interact every day. We did have “choice” and different perspectives (sarcasm): Three networks with Walter Cronkite, Chet Huntley and David Brinkley ,,,, and I can’t remember who was the figurehead on the third. Later as the culture war gained traction we got the PBS polished-radical perspective. Of course, there was some variability of perspective an opinion in the papers — columnists etc, but even they pretty much all colored inside of the allowed lines. We were being done even those seven to ten… Read more »

Ripple
Ripple
Reply to  PrimiPilus
25 days ago

The third was Peter Jennings on ABC.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  PrimiPilus
25 days ago

That brings back memories! My parents were channel 5 (Boston network affiliate). Families were network-loyal even though the differences between them were negligible. The news readers made big bucks then too.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  v_cog
25 days ago

“fed plants” – misread that at first and thought you meant they were sneaking weed into the brownies on the pre-show snack cart.

Exile
Exile
25 days ago

“The heart of this story is stuff normal white people can understand and they are comfortable discussing. If this is Nazi-guy shooting black people, no lawyer is taking the case and no prominent people are speaking out in favor of the shooter.” I agreed 100% with your own comment yesterday where you said we only need 20% of Whites to agree with us, not 51%. Are we doing optics to appeal to the normies again or are we shooting for a better-informed, more highly-motivated 20% ? There were around 11 million estimated “alt-Right sympathizers” in 2018 according to the Hawley… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Exile
25 days ago

You would still need to move 13 percent of the Whites. Propaganda, and that is meant in a good way, has to be effective even among those who are reachable.

Did I misread you?

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Exile
25 days ago

an alt-Right whose hoofbeats seem to be a “hauntology” around here.

Awesome turn of phrase there, Exile. Many here do protest too much, methinks.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
25 days ago

Indeed, appearances matter. It might be a time to step outside ourselves and consider our adversaries under the same light. Those guys are looking like shit right now. The reason for that, without mincing words, is that they are shitty people. Normies are beginning to see that. I know formerly PC lefties that are starting to turn. Z is not correct that the fast talking slick salesman moves more product. As a sales guy myself, I can tell you that the customers are every bit as skeptical and smart as we are. The Altright, for all their faults and blunders,… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Glenfilthie
25 days ago

The Marxist propaganda organs have tried to dirty up Kyle and to a larger degree paint their felon allies as nice people. Good luck with that sales job. Kyle has a very capable and wonderful spokesman in Lin Wood, who will become his public face. It will be interesting to watch whether Fox, which is Cuck Central, will allow him on the air as a guest, but the man knows PR.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Jack Dobson
25 days ago

it doesn’t hurt that all three of the shootees were convicted felons.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
25 days ago

Almost the first way the Daily Beast referred to young Rittehouse was as a “big-time Blue Lives Matter fan”. When did being a fan of Law Enforcement become a negative? America damned near WORSHIPS cops! Don’t believe me? Look at all the cop shows currently or formerly on television. From drama to comedy to “reality” TV is replete with series about cops.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Bill Mullins
25 days ago

Like anything else, the Kyle Rittenhouse story is a bit complicated. See the Daily Caller for this. Kyle was part of an armed group posted to protect a business, but also stated he was carrying medical supplies to help injured protesters. His group leader stated they were “on the side of the protestors but there to protect property”. Kyle is coming off as a bit of a dreamy do-gooder here, who got drawn like a moth to the Kenosha flame, and allowed his naïveté to get him into a bad situation. From an optics standpoint, this information would probably make… Read more »

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Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Dutch
25 days ago

Thanks for spelling “naïveté” with the proper accent marks. You know your French.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Gravity Denier
24 days ago

The iPhone did that, not me.

acetone
Member
Reply to  Dutch
24 days ago

The Kyle Rittenhouse situation is amazing for us from an optics perspective. Really, he a best case senario for what we are trying to represent (young, seemingly good hearted kid, caught in a bad situation against the worst people imaginable — not even I could have imagined the criminality of the antifa trio, over prosecuted by the deep state). He should open some normie eyes.

brunob
brunob
Reply to  thezman
25 days ago

that would qualify as a platitude.

i’ve done sales, technical sales to be specific, and no amount of polish or posturing will sell a product if you lack two things:
a customer with a need
and a product that can fill it
i offer that in this context because normie white guy is just discovering his need. kyle rittenhouse is barely a product, but his counsel will try to change that.

i predict that the effort will either be ignored or they’ll experience nearly trumpian levels of PR sedition.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  brunob
25 days ago

I think you may be selling this one short, Bruno. When Sandmann’s lawyers weighed in on this, you could hear the American mass media shit it’s collective pants in fright all the way up here in Canada. They are smelling fresh meat, and lawyers are very good at that.
I won’t be surprised at all if Trump isn’t watching this one like a hawk.

acetone
Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
24 days ago

I think he is. But conservative politicians and media are scared about committing to his defense at this point with the election imminent.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  thezman
25 days ago

Forgive my ignorance Z. Perhaps we are sort of saying the same thing different ways? I think I might still disagree. Please bear with me: If you look at the Donks – who are slowly swirling down the crapper as we speak… they are chock full of guys with the level gaze, the 1000W smile, and a firm handshake. Jim Acosta, Don Lemon, and the other faggots and flimps at CNN are dressed to the nines and competent looking. Do you trust them? The point I am trying to make is that we need to focus on the customers. Your… Read more »

brunob
brunob
Reply to  Glenfilthie
25 days ago

very well stated.
my customers were cleanroom nerds, so was i.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  brunob
25 days ago

Nick Fuentes. That suit and tie really make a difference.

Imagine the Zman in a suit and tie, at the podium, delivering yesterday’s fine, incandescent rage as he spoke of the tradeoffs of being backed into a corner.

He’d be today’s Enoch Powell.

(In a Jason hockey mask, I never ever want to know his real identity, *cough* Mr. Wayne *cough*)

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T. Morris
T. Morris
25 days ago

There is a LOT of wisdom in this post. I’ll be sharing it all around.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
25 days ago

that little shit stain that took a head shot is a hoot. there is video of him screaming “shoot me nigga!” over and over; and of course a few minutes later he is on the ground twitching like Johnny Ringo 😛 he has to be a strong contender for darwin award of the year!

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

Something tells me he wanted to die for a long time but didn’t have the gumption to do the deed himself.

v_cog
v_cog
Reply to  Chet Rollins
25 days ago

You might be on to something here. He was a registered sex offender after all, so clearly a demented person to begin with.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  v_cog
25 days ago

With a 12 year old. When in 20s.

v_cog
v_cog
Reply to  SamlAdams
25 days ago

truly the type of hero that the BLM crowd deserves

brunob
brunob
Reply to  v_cog
25 days ago

betting he fancied himself a porn producer working a near future prospect.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Chet Rollins
25 days ago

i think it was more of a case of trying to redeem yourself (stubby man’s self), but being off by 180 degrees in your act of penitence. i.e. they serve satan as a way to get to heaven…ooops, you on da ron bus brah. wish i was there to pee into his upturned face, as he lay there dying “this is how much your life is worth SHAKE”

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

On the contrary, if that scum was on fire, I wouldn’t piss on him to put it out.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Chet Rollins
25 days ago

Yes. The leftist death cult is slow suicide. A longing for death that if not provided to them will result in genocide. It is no surprise that the front lines are full of monsters begging to be put down by better men. As you approach the extreme edge of the cult, the visible ugliness displayed begins to mirror what resides inside cut for cut. The self-mutilation and embracing of all matters of hideousness is plain to see in the females while the males abandon all pretenses of the perverted politik in favor of the raw suicidal impulses that animate their… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
24 days ago

Same probably goes for Hutus like St. George and Joseph Blake. Suicide by cop.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

Poor soul, he was just too high strung.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  David Wright
25 days ago

haha i love that scene so much.

acetone
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
24 days ago

The videography from the riots is chilling. Its crazy to see this video popping up on twitter and 4chan in real time. Very, very different media environment (intimacy, proximity, immediacy, minimal gate keeping) than even 2 or 3 years ago.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
25 days ago

“A month ago, no one would have predicted the recent events in Kenosha.” I agree with the article except for the above. Ray Charles saw this coming, since May. Everyone saw not only the shooting in the street coming, but the immediate reaction to arrest the person defending themselves. Anyone who didn’t see it coming back in May had to have serious misgivings about all these riots when the black militias started showing up. Frankly, the only thing surprising about this is that it took this long. If our leaders weren’t such stupid cowards, they would have stopped these protests… Read more »

brunob
brunob
Reply to  tarstarkas
25 days ago

agreed entirely.
additionally, targeting members of the press is next. andy ngo probably has a target on his back, God bless him.
left to the imagination who on the other side might have a similar target.

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  tarstarkas
25 days ago

Agree. I thought someone would have opened up on a bunch of rioters back in June.
I am glad no one did, but I am surprised no one has.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Vegetius
25 days ago

That would be bad optics. Things may be different after the election.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
24 days ago

You don’t stop what you support.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
25 days ago

Kenosha is interesting as an inflection point because to the “normie” population it can be “their town”. The Portland, Seattle, Chicago, NYC riots can be put off to “well all the crazies live there anyway”. But middle America can relate to seeing hordes of outside rioters + miscreant locals literally burning down almost the entirety of their downtown because of one bad police interaction. Listened to the Kenosha PD feed for a little while the second night. Half the radio traffic was cops calling in out of state plates for cars parked on residential streets around the downtown. Almost all… Read more »

BTP
Member
25 days ago

Just searched NRO for Kyle’s name. Almost nothing. Amazing that these clowns can’t bring themselves to talk about the most important element of Kenosha. They have something about waiting for facts on the shooting of Blake, but the merest recitation of the facts of Kyle’s arrest, for example. I guess if they aren’t going to throw one of our kids to the wolves, they have nothing to say.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  BTP
25 days ago

Lin Wood could have sued the piss out of NR if he had been so inclined due to how they libeled Nick Sandmann. He didn’t because they apparently are broke and are largely irrelevant to contemporary life.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
24 days ago

I wish he had done it anyway.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  BTP
25 days ago

why would yo expect differently? every second you spend at NRO is a second you will cry bitter tears about as the end approaches…just a profound waste of time.

Frip
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
25 days ago

He’s just checking shit out bro, relax.