The Unconservatives

The defining feature of Conservatism over the last quarter century or more is that it steadfastly refuses to consider the consequences of its dogma. In fact, part of its dogma is to reject any consideration of consequences. Conservatives proudly state that the means justifies the ends. If policy fits conservative ideology, then the results are by definition acceptable. You see that myopia at work in their latest fetish over zoning regulations in the suburbs and exurbs.

The American Conservative has been running posts like this one that claim the suburbs need to be exposed to predatory developers. The marketplace should decide if a chemical plant is built next to the school or a federally subsidized tenement is constructed in your town. After all, every conservative knows that the will of the marketplace is supreme. The only way for anything to be legitimate is if it is the result of the invisible hand of the marketplace.

Of course, National Review has also jumped onto this fetish. This post from last month in response to the Trump administration trashing some Obama era housing regulations demands the suburbs be deregulated. He also makes the conservative case for exposing local communities to the whim of developers. The irony here is the author lives in one of the most regulated suburbs on the planet. In fact, Northern Virginia would not exist as it does if not for the federal government.

Like the fetish for legalizing drugs or hardcore pornography, conservatives first start their case by rejecting the obvious consequences. Any consideration of the knock-on effects of public policy violate conservative dogma. The only thing that can matter is if these proposed polices square with what passes for conservative theory. In this case it means zero government involvement in the regulation of development. Property owners can do whatever they like with their property.

Of course, at this stage, conservative theory is barely distinguishable from libertarian theory, which is nothing more than a pose. It is a way to stand on the sidelines and pretend to hold the moral high ground. In this case it means avoiding the real issue at play in this story. That is the systematic blockbusting of white suburbs by the Left through the use of federal housing regulations. They are trying to dump non-white populations into white suburbs in the name of retributive justice.

Rather than think about that, because that is scary and icky, the modern conservative focuses on the theoretical aspects of the issue. Like the reformer in Chesterton’s fence, they refuse to wonder why this is an issue. They refuse to ponder why the Obama people were doing what they were doing or why local communities have been fighting these efforts over the years. None of that matters. As is true with all ideologues, all that matters is the ideological conformity.

The irony here is that what passes for conservatism today is pretty much the opposite of what conservatism has meant historically. Conservatism has always prized continuity, as that is the result of generations of trial and error. Change must come slowly and deliberately with proper consideration for local customs and concerns. Modern conservatism is the embrace of constant change, the whirlwind of the marketplace, in total disregard for community and custom.

Another part of that embrace of continuity is the point of Chesterton’s fence. The conservative not only knows there are consequences to every reform, but those consequences will have consequences as well. It’s not that the Right is adept at seeing the downstream consequences of the proposed reform, but that they know we cannot always see far enough downstream to truly know the second order effects of the proposed reform. Prudence is chief among virtues.

Getting back to housing policy, what we do know is the Left is not acting from republican virtue when they propose changes to the law. They are animated by anti-white hatred and the quest for retributive justice. That is the starting assumption when examining any proposed reform from the Left. Therefore, the conservative must look at how best to prevent the consequences the Left imagines. In this case, how best to prevent the Left from devastating the white suburbs.

As to the issue of property rights, this is another example of how modern conservatism is an inversion of what conservatism has meant historically. Conservatives have always understood that rights are the product of human society. Citizens have rights and one cannot be a citizen unless they are part of a society. Therefore, the good of the community comes before the individual. This is why no right is absolute. There are always situations in which rights give way to the public good.

This is the case of local control of development. The people in the community live in the community, which means they live with the consequences of how members dispose of their property. They get a say in that. Ideally, this is a light touch that relies on the moral scruples of the community members, but when that fails, the collective good of the community must prevail. Further, the rights of the outsider, the developer, do not exist, because the developer lives outside the community.

It is popular to call the modern conservative controlled opposition. There is some truth to it for sure, as many are paid by left-wing media organizations. For most of them, they are just part of another tentacle of the managerial octopus. Some tentacles lash at the body of society, while others, like this one, try to cut off oxygen to the brains of otherwise conservative people. The hope is they will sacrifice themselves and their community in the name of abstract principles.

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Diversity Heretic
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1 month ago

The fact that the “conservatives” advocating free market change don’t have to live with the consequences of that change greatly facilitates the advocacy. Couple that with who are likely paying the advocates to write what they write.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 month ago

Yeah, it’s the classic skin in the game problem. And, to be frank, it is one reason why distrust of outsiders is a useful adaption – outsiders are exploiters.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

Yep and without a community we will continue to have a really hard time discerning that in/out. Team white is split good/bad, an intractable divide but is at least becoming more obvious who would sell you to the brownshirts for another day on the plantation. Within team white red/right/con, on the other hand, we have an awful lot of poolside observers, opportunists, exploiters, and other sideline fork tongued bigmen waiting for the shooting to start. Forming up and getting that skin in game is something we need regardless of what comes next.

Epaminondas
Member
1 month ago

Conservatives were always linked to the Chambers of Commerce around the country, but there was little or nothing “conservative” about this crowd. They were nothing more than a banker’s booster club for uncontrolled economic expansion. A more craven group of sycophants has never existed. Coming to a suburb near you.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 month ago

CoC screwed the pooch by endorsing hard left dem candidates (this year). they are finished (were anyway).

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

I hope you are right. But I fear the CoC has figured out, just like all the woke corporations, that the Republicucks will support them no matter what. So why why not veer hard left and live safely with 75% political support (most Dems and half of Repubs).

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 month ago

“Expansion” only in the sense of GDP. Wages for the productive classes are flat by official standards, but are really declining due to deficit spending and currency devaluation via money printing. Not to mention rising costs brought about by the millions who come here (legally and not) each year.

David Wright
Member
1 month ago

Who here calls themselves conservative anymore?

There is some truth to it for sure, as many are paid by left-wing media organizations. just look at the Fox interviewer warning Gingrich not to bring Soros into the conversation.

MN Steel
MN Steel
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

Waiting on “The Conservative Case for Polyamorous Trans Third-Trimester Abortions Should Be Televised During Firearms Confiscation” to make the rounds…

Should be seeing it in 3 years, if this shitshow hasn’t collapsed by then.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  MN Steel
1 month ago

Well, we already have the Conservative, Inc. Case For Broadcasting Softcore Child Porn on Netflicks. Absolutley amazing, we have gone from “you can’t say a swear word on a record album” to “movies showing preteens dryhumping and crotch-grinding is Who We Are” within my lifetime. The fires of Hell are not hot enough for these Pedophists and their support of unconscious systemic pedophilia.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Educated.redneck
1 month ago

The speed of America’s descent into the abyss of madness and evil is dizzying, and the pace is only increasing. The bottom of the pit now rushes up at us.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

It’s a bottomless black hole

My Comment
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

It may not be the bottom of the pit but a crumbling ledge that is rushing towards us.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

That was an eye-opener. Fox is now controlled to the point they can’t utter the man’s name. They let some Jewish lefty shout down a former Speaker of the House for just stating the facts.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Drake
1 month ago

How can anyone deny jewish total control when you can’t even point out one single jewish subverter on “right wing” television?
It’s not as if he was blaming jewish people for ruining american cities.

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Felix Krull
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Reply to  sentry
1 month ago

I don’t know what it’s like today, but back when I was still welcome on Breitbart, the word “Jew” would get you hammered by the ban bot.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Larry Solov – Jewish co-owner

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Gingrich didn’t even use the word jew

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  sentry
1 month ago

Breitbart wouldn’t let you spell “Soros” either.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Is the fear from the right leaning jews that mentioning soros is just a few steps removed from coming after all of them?

NotSkinnyTony
NotSkinnyTony
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

To get past the censors I just spell his name backwards. Everyone knows who I mean 🙂

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Just replied to this post an hour ago using the J** word, didn’t post.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Don’t give them the capital J. They deserve no respect after stripmining and eviserating a perfectly good country, who was better off without them. Parasites. Leeches. Vermin.

Hoyos
Hoyos
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

Well I do, because fuck these guys, they don’t get to seize every word they want. But that’s just my Celtic fringe “be a stubborn dick” DNA coming out.

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Hoyos
1 month ago
Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Owlman
1 month ago

Look what uttering the so-called “N word” did to that man’s career.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Owlman
1 month ago

Dear uncle.

Same
Same
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 month ago

He would never harm an animal though, I guess they just inserted that to invert the message

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

when people go on about conservatism (usually in comment section somewhere) i always say: name one “win” of conservatives. that always shuts them up.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

“Conservatives” are the Washington Generals of politics. They run around and score a few points, but always lose the game, and get humiliated in the process.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

Concealed carry. ::drops mike::

MN Steel
MN Steel
Reply to  Educated.redneck
1 month ago

Yeah, I love the nationwide reciprocity and the wonderful benefits the Hearing Protection Act provide us all that were passed during the first 100 days that Republicans had control of everything!

Too bad about those bump stocks and Red Flag laws, though….

BTW, when did your state pass concealed carry, and how many that voted for it are in prominent positions?

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Educated.redneck
1 month ago

mike, are you ok?

you must be a conservative, because this is what you call victory: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/concealed-carry-states

i call this a good example of zman’s thesis on conservatives being the ball washers to the left.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

They will point to tax cuts and preserving the second amendment. The former is more accurately called tax deferments, the latter exists in name only as can be seen by the legal harassment following lawful use of firearms.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

To be fair, they have been good on 2A issues, but I still share your sentiment.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

The Cold War. That’s it.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Which was probably BS. Read Antony Sutton’s “The Best Enemy Money Can Buy”. There is also the fact that the Truman and Eisenhower administrations were not to eager to root out communists.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

The only thing “conservatives” conserve is progressive victories.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

Who here calls themselves conservative anymore?

I sometimes do rather than try to explain what “Dissident Right” means (as if there’s even a universally accepted definition for that — I’m apparently not on it by the Derbyshire definition).

The state of political labeling is so messed up as to be almost entirely meaningless.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

I just say “dissident”

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

I say there is one uni-party and I’m not part of it. I then point out that if you put all the major “accomplishments” of Bush the Greater, Clinton, Bush the Lesser and Obama in a hat and pulled them out one by one, you could never guess who did what.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

A bit of a mouthful, that…

Raslip Mugfrid
Raslip Mugfrid
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Does Latter Day American work as a label?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

We still need to come up with a noun for what we are. Neoreactionary sounds cool, but I’m not sure it’s accurate, and the neo is, I think, superfluous. I’ve encountered Tradical, which is cute. Perhaps a bit TOO cute!

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

“Rebel” is still the best, but it was spent a long time ago.

Member
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

I just use the labels tactically. So depending on who I’m talking to and how much Reality[tm] I think they can choke down before they barf in their gay little mask, I’m a conservative, libertarian, constitutionalist, or perhaps just “right wing”. Mostly, I just feel like a citizen of a country that doesn’t exist anymore but perhaps can be reconstituted in some form. Perhaps “Trumpist” is the closest thing though I’m really not comfortable with that either. Like you said, it takes too long to explain the DR and most people I meet have the attention span of a chipmunk… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

Not to be noticing and all, but the awkwardness started when the black she-host told Newt to shut up. Couldn’t help but wonder if it was actually her commitment to BLM (a safe choice) and not any nascent worries about being called out as an anti-Semite.

Love “awkward” moments on TV; it’s really the only time you get a glimpse at what the talking heads are truly thinking. That reporter-ette LOVES BLM, and she knows who butters their bread.

Presbyter
Presbyter
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

A truly bizarre and revealing moment. Newt Gingrich mentions Soros and suddenly he’s told ‘not to bing George Soros into this” by Melissa Francis and Marie Harf and Harris Faulkner clammed up and awaited instructions it seemed.

Valley Lurker
Reply to  Presbyter
1 month ago

She literally appeared to be waiting for instructions in her ear piece. It was bizarre.

David
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

I went from libertarian to eugenicist in the last 6 months.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
1 month ago

It is a way to stand on the sidelines and pretend to hold the moral high ground.

Best description of the libertarian ideal I think I have read. I’ll save that one for a rainy day.

Geo. Orwell
Geo. Orwell
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

This reminds me precisely of the pose adopted by that rotund dingbat Ed Morrissey at Hot Air during the Obergefell mess. Namely, that the Principled Approach to fake gay marriage was to insist that government get out of the marriage business altogether and let everyone sort it out miraculously, free of any legal issues. This is a bit like demanding to swim without getting wet. Everything from child custody to joint property laws and millennia of tradition being mere vaporous fluff that will never have to be addressed by courts in real life. That had to be the ultimate lolbertarian… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Geo. Orwell
1 month ago

If you really want to mess with the gay marriage crowd, point out that it obliterates inheritance and gift taxes. If I want to leave my net worth to my son, I can just marry him, transfer the assets, and then get divorced. Watch them try to explain that is wrong because it is incestuous, to which I reply with a “who are you to judge?”

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Geo. Orwell
1 month ago

 The Left often claims that race is a social construct. Most of us here probably believe that it is actually a biological basis for differences in averages of behavior. In both our primate relatives and in man, there is a spectrum of mating behaviors, monogamy, polygamy, and many other troubling variations thereof. Right now I am not claiming that one form is morally better than another, merely that many different forms exist both in nature and in Civilization. If Darwin were here he probably would weigh in with an opinion somewhat favorable to conservatives that would be something like “homosexual… Read more »

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LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Geo. Orwell
1 month ago

I still visit HotAir to get the controlled opposition conservative views. Ed, AllahPundit, Jazz… Pathetic!

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 month ago

that time is better spent on pornhub…

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 month ago

I was banned from RimJob’s FreeRepublic during W’s excellent Iraq adventure for criticizing W on immigration. I scan there occasionally for articles and just marvel at the deluded conservative mind that will trip over a communist jew and goes on to prattle about judeo-christian values. No wonder why they lose even when they win elections.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Geo. Orwell
1 month ago

morrisey isn’t fit to work on a ride at an amusement park. just skip anything he writes. Redstate in general is skippable. i do enjoy posting comments there pointing out various hack writers who pretend they are not anti-Trump (when they clearly are).

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

One of the libertarian/con inc tells that I am seeing quite often as the twilight of the covaids new normal morphs into the next great fight from the sideline is the market pose. They just can’t resist revealing their free market fetish and personal savvy. Of course its because being libcon means you are smarter than knuckle dragging wignats and everyone to the left of you. So they go on about the unconstitutional lockdowns of covid or how the cops need to shoot all those commies in the streets, then drop how they “have made a killing in the stock… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Screwtape
1 month ago

They just can’t resist revealing their free market fetish and personal savvy.

Every time that one of these chaps vectors his free market ideal in my direction, I like to point out that if your most important commodity is printed by the government or created in other funny ways by the same, that’s gotta be one hell of a regulation right there. Then of course we can talk about all the other myriad restrictions on the market, but I suppose I am being anal.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

Ask them why Marx supported free trade.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

But muh crypto. It’s so PRIVATE (because I have so much to hide).

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Screwtape
1 month ago

Fuck ‘em!

Same
Same
Reply to  Screwtape
1 month ago

Wish I could upvote more than once

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
1 month ago

It is curious that all the worst elements of left-wing Continental philosophy leapt their laboratory containment and made the jump from the German salons to the American universities (and we’re all living on campus now, as Andrew Sullivan said). But nothing like this happened with European conservatism (marginal weirdos like Paul Gottfried understand conservative thinkers like Carl Schmitt, but he’s a genius and an outlier). This probably happened because left-wing stuff like the Frankfurt School is obscurantist and intellectually demoralizing (it looks like scholarship, so you try to engage it, and find nothing there, which exhausts the intellect), whereas European… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
1 month ago

Getting back to housing policy, what we do know is the Left is not acting from republican virtue when they propose changes to the law. They are animated by anti-white hatred and the quest for retributive justice. This has become the most prominent thought in my mind as I look to move out from the city that John Cleese said is ‘no longer English’. Any house that has a nice parcel of land next to it, in a village that either has a train station or will be getting one, is a target for the development of housing for the… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

“Murder of protestors.”

Stealing.

Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

A Burn, Loot, and Murder in fact.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

OrangeFrog – When I lived in England in the early ’80s, it seemed there were train stations to obscure locales; I assume that has spread further in the ensuing decades. While the more remote the location probably means less diversity, I’ve read of the government placing rapefugees on Scottish islands. Just prepare ahead of time with bulk buying and ensure your spouse won’t pine for the city to visit her favorite shop or hairdresser.

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OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

3g, yes our mainline network is actually very intricate. Many small villages do have stations, but the real issue is whether or not it is easy to get into London. If it is, then I have earmarked these places as nice to live – for the time being – but they may soon have to be vacated. Anyway, in smaller villages the locals tend to club together to stop these things, not always, but sometimes. The Scottish islands thing I have heard of, and where there is government owned (or subsidised) property, there is a chance diversity will be placed… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

Nice collective noun- also used for Crows.
I like An unkindness of Ravens ( I know a girl called Raven)
and, of course, A Theft of Lawyers.

Summa
Summa
1 month ago

They are animated by anti-white hatred and the quest for retributive justice.

It seems like every day now there’s a new example of retributive terror while the conservative establishment does NOTHING.

Omaha:
https://www.nationalistreview.net/2020/09/17/video-bar-owner-charged-with-terrorism-for-using-deadly-force-to-defend-his-life-and-establishment/

Milwaukee:
https://twitter.com/MilwaukeePolice/status/1306349626568642561

Last edited 1 month ago by Summa
Whitney
Member
Reply to  Summa
1 month ago

“They are animated by anti-white hatred and the quest for retributive justice.”

I’m committing this quote to memory so I can just pop it out at will.

Take Your Own Side
Take Your Own Side
Reply to  Summa
1 month ago

Regarding the Milwaukee incident, some of the social media comments show how far whites still have to go in re-learning to defend their own people no matter what, just like POC do. So what if the guy was drunk? Who wouldn’t drink after 3 hours of a mob outside their house? And why does the expectation for staying on the straight-and-narrow always fall on the guy defending himself? Let’s look at the rioters outside his house: how many of them were drunk and high? Drunk and high mobs, as BLM always are, pose a genuine threat. Was the previous chainsaw… Read more »

Last edited 1 month ago by Take Your Own Side
BTP
Member
Reply to  Take Your Own Side
1 month ago

James LaFond points out that police forces are an industrial age innovation designed to prevent working class Whites from organizing to advance their interests against the ruling class. And it looks like that is still their main reason to exist.

Indeed, they serve no other purpose. I say we remove them and look to ourselves.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

James LaFond points out that police forces are an industrial age innovation designed to prevent working class Whites from organizing to advance their interests against the ruling class. 
can anyone refute him?

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

Yes. LaFond has some very good takes on this, indeed. It is an interesting aspect of history, and well worth tying together – something that mainstream historians may never touch. Indeed, they serve no other purpose. I say we remove them and look to ourselves. Indeed. But as we all know the price of daring to defend oneself is becoming high – and not from your assailant. Indeed, for even the most trivial things, the modern man is urged to ‘call the police’ – whilst it seems the civil thing to do, we all know it chips away at our… Read more »

BTP
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

On that theme: my parish is in an urban area and obviously has security concerns during mass, for which we have hired a policeman to stand outside and keep the riffraff away. It’s an interesting decision; in the days past, the men of the parish would be the ones discouraging the collection of bums and Southern Protestants from making a disturbance. We’ve begun to rethink that decision, based on the idea of subsidiarity, with the conclusion that we have to go slowly because the church ladies and other sissies would be uncomfortable with the men of the parish acting like… Read more »

Valley Lurker
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

The one principle I feel I can add to these sorts of discussions is, one of our most important skills/abilities in the coming years is going to be knowing how to dispose of the results of self-defense without involving law enforcement. Its an upsetting thought for many of us who are new here, but its absolutely essential to know what you would do in those situations in the aftermath. When, where & how.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Valley Lurker
1 month ago

If you don’t have the power you work from the inside which means you become the law so you can use their power for your people until you have enough power to disband them and replace with what is needed…

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

This is strictly anecdotal, but crime in my town went down during the lockdown when the cops pretty much stopped patrols. I think it’s because people were home and their presence discouraged crime. When the cops did re-emerge, they focused on issuing parking tickets to people using the parks which didn’t have enough parking spaces for the oversized crowds. “To protect our pensions and serve our political masters”. Notice that Seattle did nothing about CHAZ until Antifa protested in front of the mayor’s house and erected a guillotine in front of AmaZOG headquarters.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

that guy is a complete loser. terrible writer too. if you want an instant black pill, just go over to his lame assed site.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

You’re my black pill, Karl.

I agree his writing lacks a certain quality of, uh, goodness. But on this question of the raison d’être of police forces, I think he has a point.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

i’ll keep working on my game, until i’m you’re huckleberry.

Painting Pat
Painting Pat
Reply to  Summa
1 month ago

This is why this guy is right about police:
“The police aren’t meant to protect us from them. They’re meant to protect them from us.”
https://twitter.com/goyvak/status/1306373712854220801

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Summa
1 month ago

These are the terms of engagement at this time, whether we like it or not. Let’s not put on some “conservative” bow-tie and get to bleating about how none of this is “fair”. Instead, if firearms are the trigger for Caesar to come down on you for conducting what would otherwise be considered self-defense, then other means must be considered. The deployment of a firearm must be held off (i.e., fire discipline) for when and if an attacker(s) enters your home (i.e., castle; review the Castle Doctrine of your state). Just spit-balling here, so this is not a serious lists… Read more »

Jail Grosskreutz
Jail Grosskreutz
Reply to  Owlman
1 month ago

This is true, but the point is to defend our side when they make honest mistakes. It’ll take time before enough normies out there learn that it’s foolish to engage the rioters in any way, but I think we still have to defend those normies. For example, Rittenhouse should not have been out defending Kenosha businesses from rioters, because he would always be painted as the evil one in his interactions with rioters no matter what he did. If he had stayed home like all the “wignats” who learned from 2017, he’d be fine now. But we can’t blame him… Read more »

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Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Jail Grosskreutz
1 month ago

I am in full agreement with you. One of the most distressing realities of the Trump era so far has been abandoning people like Rittenhouse to their fate. Stone, Flynn, many more — the ‘system’ sicced on them with no support from the, cough-cough “conservative” or “Republican” side. What is more oppressive than a society where you are always watched and hammered for any slight infraction, while your overseers can get away with murder? So my post was really about thinking outside the box, in keeping with the rules of engagement, what individuals can do, think of doing, since we… Read more »

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Owlman
1 month ago

To correct myself, Rules of Engagement. Staying on my own point, I live on the end of a quiet, long dead end. No one that does not live here has any business being on the road. Sometimes a car or truck will pass by, slowly. I keep a hand held spotlight on hand for these instances. You’d be amazed how you can drive off a stopped vehicle up the street by playing light on to its license tag, into its cabin. From a spot where I am not revealed for any fire centered on the light. Keep the light on… Read more »

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Owlman
1 month ago

IMO the McCloskey guy made a big mistake. By standing in the open, he was exposed to hundreds of enemy personnel. His wife had a non-functioning weapon and was also exposed. One bottle hits her, she’s down and screaming. One bottle hits him, he’s down, they take his weapon, use it on him. Rape his wife. Burn down the house. If he wanted to defend his home against the mob, it needed to be from cover. Unseen. The wife, unless capable of being an asset, safely down. Perhaps passing him clips for that AR. If and when an enemy puts… Read more »

Goetz
Goetz
1 month ago

White suburbs? Even without Federal housing the presence of large apartment blocks in the neighborhood ensure nightime marauding and monkeyshines.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Goetz
1 month ago

“Affordable housing” ended when freedom of association was strangled to death by the 1960’s+ Civil Rights acts. The only way to move to an assortative housing situation was to pay through the bloody nose. Which affluent whites, Indians, Chinese, Jews, etc. all do. It’s a trap though…the dread “IQ shredder”, in action. By the time you can afford a “nice neighborhood”, you’re well on in years and few, if any kids are in your future. I miss freedom of association. Call it “white flight”, call it a “neighborhood going dark”; Sailer is onto something with his proposed “a B a… Read more »

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skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Goetz
1 month ago

Most of the police calls in my area are to apartments.

Drake
Drake
1 month ago

Maybe just me – but it sure seems obvious that the left wants to destroy zoning laws so that whitey has no place left to flee. They still hold a grudge for whitey abandoning places like Newark, NJ to the blacks. So now they’ll move the blacks down the road to where whitey fled.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Drake
1 month ago

A lot of money to be made building new refugee camps for those fleeing whites. Whites work very hard to pay for their disenfranchisement. Hand their kids over to the schools and the media. It takes a lot of money to self destruct. Makes my head hurt.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

A friend and former colleague of mine runs a division of Blackstone. They are going long on mobile home parks. I was already pretty cynical back in ‘09 having seen the long/short squeeze play out in MBS and the subsequent asset reprice, gov subsidy, and aggregation up close. I don’t even know how to describe my mindset at this point.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Screwtape
1 month ago

Mobile homes? In other words they think whites have an appetite for indignity? I was making a joke about white flight, apparently I’m not serious enough about it!

At what point do whites get off their knees and reclaim what’s theirs?

Paul R
Paul R
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

“At what point do whites get off their knees and reclaim what’s theirs?” Never. Did they do this in either South Africa or Zimbabwe? Or did they rationalize their defeat, fail to do what’s required of victory, and then flee when things got too bad? Same will happen here. Every once in a while, I see internet commenters talking about some rare white abode in South Africa, but that’s pathetic. It’s small and poor and will easily be overrun by the government one day. Only a complete, legally recognized break can solve this problem. Either conservatives are brainwashed simpletons or… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paul R
1 month ago

Course of action? It’s a matter of will. The left has it, the right backs down. Simple as that.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Screwtape
1 month ago

Manufactured and especially mobile homes really put the screws to the people there. Banks and the gov’t programs that keep mortgage rates low don’t count for manufactured and mobile, regular homeowner’s insurers won’t insure them, equity lines, fuhgeddabouditt. Any financing you get is from the builder/vendor, often Berkshire Hathaway, at generally usurious rates and terms. Manufactured homes are often prohibited from many neighborhoods. For mobile homes, you pay rent for the land under the home every month, and moving it, once it’s in place, is not an option (parks almost never allow used homes to be moved into the site).… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

I don’t think it’s “camps.” It’s just a consequence of the GDP crowd needing to keep all their balls in the air while they plan their exit.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  RoBG
1 month ago

I meant it in the sense that I think suburbs are the nicest refugee camps ever built 🙂 Make the cities diverse, whites flee to whatever Levittown you built for them. Levittown gets diverse, whites flee to the exurbs, where Levittown Reserve waits, and so on. Very lucrative. It’s the locust system. Seems to me 2 things make it possible: whites make great tax cows/consumers, and the idea that it’s right for non-whites to take from whites, even theft, and it’s wrong for whites to fight back. Maybe 3 things. Maybe whites are dumb enough to believe losing territory and… Read more »

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Drake
1 month ago

 it’s a it’s a cynical view, but largely accurate on the post-war real estate development scam. As the old 60s song said people moving out people moving in why because of the color of the skin. There’s a lot of money to be made buying up distressed property rehabilitating it and selling it to the gentrifiers.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
1 month ago

lots of latinos and asians in the suburbs – a real nice voting block when combined with non-pozzed whites.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

Funny how all the landscapers, dishwashers and such in my neighborhood are latino – not blacks driving out from the cities.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Drake
1 month ago

blacks are terrible workers; no one wants to hire them for anything. which is fine with the nigs as they prefer a life of leisure.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

This is basically true. Jordan Petersen (I know) pointed out that people with IQ below 80 or so literally cannot find work in a modern economy. They can’t be trash men or janitors or dishwashers because they cannot organize themselves to get out of the house in an organized fashion. Considering the distribution of black IQ, that implies something like 40% of that entire population simply cannot do any work at all.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

 that is that is generally true. Consider that roughly 40% of them are too stupid to join the military. Now have you ever been in the military? Too stupid for even infantry or Marines is a very scary concept.

Valley Lurker
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

Sounds about right.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

My city now has more asians than whites. The county wanted to put a homeless project near schools and a city park. The asians arranged for busses to take protestors to the county commission hearing. The idea was killed but many whitelibs were very upset with the asians.

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  skeptic16
1 month ago

Your story reminds me of the old engineering school joke asking what kind of engineer is God? The electrical engineer says that He must be an EE, just look at the human brain with all its electrical circuits and impulses. The mechanical engineer says He is an ME for obviously our muscles and bones are all mechanical contraptions. Finally, the civil engineer chimes in and says God Almighty must be a CE for who else would put a sewage and wastewater treatment system next to a youth entertainment facility?

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  skeptic16
1 month ago

we live in the same town 🙂 seriously; the Big I 😛

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

Yup! I’ve lived here for 22 years. It has markedly declined since. I had to work out of state between 2013 and 2017 but came back a few times a year. I noticed that traffic, crime, trash and graffiti increased noticeably. I am also seeing more negroes. How do they afford it? Section 8? Corporate Affirmative Action hires that were transferred? Maybe they actually live in Tustin. One of the Tustin elementary schools just off Jamboree was 7% negro! Be interested in your observations.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  skeptic16
1 month ago

funny enough, santa ana used to have a large negro population (talking early to mid 70’s here). i think a bunch moved to tustin, and the rest just left the area. there are subsidized apartments (not section-8 though) and the lunk heads in charge did bring in *some* nigs. it’s hilarious hearing them “nigger” this and “nigger” that in the parking lot where they grocery shop. seems like they backed off on that and there are fewer of them around now. then of course there are tons of iranians here now, too. they never make a place better. and as… Read more »

skeptic16
skeptic16
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Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

I look at the asian towns like Garden Grove and Fountain Valley and the ones in LA county. They seem to be safe and functional. But they are far more tolerant of high population densities. I think they would be even more dense if they had actually built the cities instead of the Whites that actually built them. They don’t seem to like open spaces. Irvine would certainly look very different if designed by asians. I am trying to convince the wife to move out of state to one with no income tax. The logical choice would be FL which… Read more »

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

The santa ana negro population was probably from the military presence in Tustin and Lake Forest. I thought the negroes in the nearbyTustin school might have been refugees but I looked at state info on languages spoken there and didn’t see anything indicating they were of foreign origin. I see it’s currently down to 5%. Incidentally, if you want current, accurate demographics of an area, use greatschools. They are based on school enrollment and updated each year. They don’t try to hide diversity. I don’t think the census data will be worth a damn going forward. I avoid areas with… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  skeptic16
1 month ago

Bully for the Orientals. They can get away with what whites cannot.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

The whites were pissed. So were the hispanics who are complaining about overcrowding (but that doesn’t stop them from being a sanctuary city for illegals).

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

There is a ballot measure to rescind a proposition that banned racial discrimination in state college admissions among other things. It will actually hit asians harder as Whites are leaving the state. They are going to have to pick a side quickly. Actually, it’s probably too late.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  skeptic16
1 month ago

Without racial discrimination, there wouldn’t be any blacks in college.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

The basketball and football teams.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  skeptic16
1 month ago

True.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
1 month ago

Was at “ground zero” of the Obama administration effort to override local zoning laws and mandate the placement of low income housing…literally anywhere they chose. The one politician who stood up to them is a personal acquaintance. You cannot begin to fathom the pressure that was brought to bear on local governments–including threatening to jail anyone that refused to play. At a town level, HUD “recommendations” (threats) were issued on the number of units required in each municipality—effectively to be funded locally. Our “recommendation” conservatively priced at 4x the total annual budget. That did not calculate the marginal cost of… Read more »

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Predatory/crony capitalism is the raison d’etre of modern American conservatism. It serves no other purpose or desires no other outcome save militarism, which is part and parcel of their economic program.

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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Capitalism is a tool, not a god.

Don’t remember where I heard it, but this best sums up how I view capitalism in relation to a people:

The business of America is business.

The business of Japan is the Japanese.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

It’s in the name: CAPITALism. Not marketism or private-property-ism— the things people like.

Every time I speak against speculation and debt-slavery I get the stink eye, as if I’m a commie. Ignorance at work.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

What we need to promote is “Private Enterprise”

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Bilejones
1 month ago

Just Enterprise.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Capitalism as practiced by today’s “conservatives” really ends up defending oligarchy and monopoly. But I guess like how socialism/communism always leads to the gulag, and democracy always leads to tyranny, capitalism always leads to oligarchy.

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Opposing socialism does not require one to embrace predatory capitalism, but that’s how conservatives always frame it.
This was one of the most painful political lessons I have learned over my years.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Notwithstanding the overt war on whites that unfettered capitalism represents, it is also true that the monomaniacal pursuit of filthy lucre destroys tradition. There are all sorts of examples of this in sports. For instance, the drive to maximize television earnings at any cost destroyed traditional college football rivalries such as Nebraska/Oklahoma and Texas/Texas A&M, not to mention the Kansas/Missouri basketball rivalry. And, as every thinking person on the right knows, tradition is the sinew of cultural continuity and the democracy of the dead. For this reason I’m nowhere near as wild about the free market as I used to… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

Yeah, I spent some time fighting an attempt to put (more) subsidized housing in my area. Had to fight against numerous sides. The developer loved to show pretty pictures of nice apartments and mostly white faces. The local builders were all about it cause they were promised a slice of pie. Council members who were friends with the builders were all on board. It was all pretty talk about how teachers and cops would be living in the apartments, a classic subsidized housing lie. No mention of increased traffic, crime, low-income students in the schools and just a general degradation… Read more »

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Well if the apartment complex burns down – after an appropriate amount of time for the locals to grok the fact that it was a bad idea to begin with. The developer will have to win again.

Especially if the locals change the zoning rules as a result of the degradation that the subsidized housing brings to their town. (learn their lesson)

Just sayin……………

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

That’s f’n depressing.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
1 month ago

Oh it is, because they will always try again. And in fact here, they are.

Member
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

There’s a way to stop them from ever trying again. It’s called vengeance. A lot of modern problems both large and small scale are due to the fact that, while the troublemakers don’t always win, they NEVER pay a price for trying, and thus keep coming back. A certain Middle Eastern tribe is very good at never forgetting the deeds of its enemies. We should learn from them.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

And the racket comes with “approved” development “partners” that will build the Section 8 housing.

In the words of Thornton Mellon, “I don’t know if you’re familiar with who runs that business, but I assure you it’s not The Boy Scouts.”

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  KGB
1 month ago

LA is building affordable housing with the funds raised by a bond issue approved by voters. The cost of each unit comes out to something like $600,000.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  skeptic16
1 month ago

more like $700k a unit. all they need are surplus army tents, set up in the desert.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

The Sahara desert.

Hoyos
Hoyos
1 month ago

Plus old English property rights included the right to “peaceful use and enjoyment”. It means if your developing activity jacks up my ability to enjoy my land or damages the value of my land, you either compensate me to something I agree to or you don’t do it. We live in a country where the government can seize your land (compensated at what they think is fair regardless of whether you agree or not) in some jurisdictions to give to a private developer on the reasoning that they will pay more taxes. Additionally civil asset forfeiture doesn’t even require compensation.… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Hoyos
1 month ago

Way back in the 1980s my dad was a small-time real estate developer. He was annoyed that Rappahannock County Virginia would not allow subdivision below five acres. Even 35 plus years ago, it was obvious how excessive the development in Northern Virginia was. Just look at neighboring Fauquier County Virginia. I have no idea how the conflict has played out, but I wish Rappahannock luck in keeping their rural character and not turning into a county of cookie-cutter subdivisions and strip malls the way the rest of the Washington DC area has become.

Wkathman
Wkathman
1 month ago

The typical conservative accepts 75 % of the Left’s platform and is somehow surprised when he ends up losing the other 25 %. Conservatives are simply the junior partners in the destruction of civilization.

TomA
TomA
1 month ago

Why not combine two aspects of modern culture in order to the solve the problem you address in this post? Let’s say the federal government subsides a developer to build a Section 8 housing ghetto in your suburb. The efficient solution is to hire Antifa/BLM to burn it down repeatedly, and then de-fund the local police thereby enabling the remnant survivors to shoot each other all night long. Why fight City Hall uselessly when rioting has now become a mainstream social activity?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

I look forward to participating in my first riot, probably the next time the Empire desires to murder my own people along with foreigners so “we don’t have to fight them over here.” I’m going to riot in places where it will matter, too.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
1 month ago

The irony here is the author lives in one of the most regulated suburbs on the planet. In fact, Northern Virginia would not exist as it does if not for the federal government…  Modern conservatism is the embrace of constant change, the whirlwind of the marketplace, in total disregard for community and custom. Shorter version: conservatives are every bit the hypocritical liars the leftists are. Like liberals, the conservative author advocates destructive anti-White, anti-civilizational policies from his lily white, heavily zoned, civilized enclave. It is like the White female BLM rioters who return nightly to their all-White, upper middle class… Read more »

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

(I look forward to the Twitteresque deletion of NR back issues in the near future if it hasn’t already happened).

I doubt you can get digital or hard copies from National Review. Jonah Goldberg denounced their stances in those issues while he was working there. My personal favorite was their obituary for Nelson Mandela. They admitted Mandela was a Communist fellow traveler who opposed everything National Review claimed to stand for, but since he opposed the racist white government of South Africa they called him the greatest statesman of the 20th Century.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Barnard
1 month ago

Why is NR still in business? They’ve got to be losing tons of cash.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  skeptic16
1 month ago

because they aren’t a business!

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  skeptic16
1 month ago

It’s a 501(c)(3) now.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

Shorter version: conservatives are every bit the hypocritical liars the leftists are.Like liberals, the conservative author advocates destructive anti-White, anti-civilizational policies … Indeed. And it ought never to be forgotten. A family member, upon visiting some months back, brought me a copy of The Daily Telegraph – he reasoned that because I never really watched the news, I could do with a dose of it. At the time, London was having it’s BLM frenzy as spasms of leftists descended upon her to ply their trade. Every single front and second page item in the paper led with lines like: After… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

Your comment inspired me to go look at the comments on that National Review piece and…while I could say they’re every bit as retarded as you might imagine, I dunno, I apparently don’t have quite that much imagination.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
1 month ago

National Review now limits comments to subscribers. I haven’t read anything there for a few weeks, but the last time I read one of their more idiotic posts, even the subscribers were blasting it. That they still have a circulation base amazes me. It can’t last much longer, I would guess big donors cease to see them as useful and pull the plug within five years.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Barnard
1 month ago

Five years is generous.

There still is a New Republic. That nearly invisible ghost is where National Review is headed if it hasn’t arrived yet. It doesn’t even have a point now.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Barnard
1 month ago

I think the big donors get exactly what they are paying for, which is a defense of open borders and general libertarianism, as well as a rightward border of the Overton window. While NR could never survive on legitimate customers alone, it is probably here to stay.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

If they don’t have a general audience, it ceases to be useful to the donors. National Review knows where their bread is buttered, but they still have to have bread. There is no reason to subsidize a media organization that has no audience, the big donors will move their support to other organizations as the geriatric NR readership fades away.

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DLS
DLS
Reply to  Barnard
1 month ago

it’s not about having a general audience. They never really had that. The real audience for NR is the Republican establishment. NR provides intellectual heft to their cuckosity and rationalization for selling out.

Member
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

This is how I think of them. They are a trade magazine for a specific industry, in this case the manufacturers of weapons-grade ultra purified horseshit. Getting published or talked about there is a way to be recognized in that field so people will know who you are when you apply for a job. Nobody really reads it though.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
1 month ago

> That is the systematic blockbusting of white suburbs by the Left through the use of federal housing regulations. They are trying to dump non-white populations into white suburbs in the name of retributive justice.
The Slaughter of Cities by E.Michael Jones documents how this exact thing happened in the cities. It’s actually one of only books I know of on the subject of white flight from the cities, probably because everything the racist white people said would happen turned out to be true.

check one
check one
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

Blacks always talk about “White generational wealth” that was supposedly created in the suburbs. In point of fact, there is no White generational wealth. It’s kind of hard to build generational wealth when every White generation is forced to sell its house at a loss every decade, move further away from work (pay more for commuting) and pay more for each successive school district before it’s blacked. The fact that White people have accumulated any wealth despite always paying through the nose to be on the run is remarkable. Meanwhile, blacks were given solid housing stock adjacent to major employment… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  check one
1 month ago

 you could be you could be banned from social media for saying such things. Oh wait, that was me! 😰😠

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
1 month ago

Libertarianism runs deep in the thinking of a lot of republicans. The Rush Limbaugh types see the damage of the hollowed out middle class but fail to put some of the blame on “free enterprise”. Then of course you got the Benny Shapiro types running around telling us about the glories of the “ free” market. Benny style. In the meantime in the midwestern city in which I live the developers get tax breaks for building new strip malls and the result is the old malls and their tax base goes out of business. The corporation I work for grows… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
1 month ago

what you have just described is not the free market in any sense of the term.

Homer
Homer
1 month ago

DIEE. Sailor + extinction. It is much much easier to achieve equality by dragging one side down rather than by dragging the other side up. Why try to improve the cities when you can just ghettoize the suburbs?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Homer
1 month ago

Exactly. In addition to the obvious anti-White motive, it is an explicit admission of the failure to be able to maintain civilization in a leftist-run, minority-filled urban shithole.

B123
B123
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

And rather than admit that it failed and change course, they will double down as an extra FU to whitey.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  B123
1 month ago

B123: that it “failed?” Failure is the intended result; feature, not a bug. They want their Elysium – 98% destitute retard mongerels and the 2% pure overlord class. A nice white middle class is in the way; if your ideal society is Clouds and Dirts, there cannot be a middle ground bridge between the two. They must be genetically, legally, socially, and spacially segregated.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Homer
1 month ago

 “Ashes and diamonds, Foe and friend, we were all equal in the end.” This was Roger Waters’s opinion on the results of a hydrogen bomb explosion, but his comparison is perfectly apt for the results of most egalitarian leveling efforts. They typically only differ in extent of damage of how far down they pull the high achievers.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

The grave is the great equalizer. Egalitarianism makes cemeteries of nations.

Drew
Drew
1 month ago

Ultimately, the issue at play in American politics is that left and right are both very reactive by nature. The main difference is that the left is wishful and the right is avoidant. So, whenever a problem arises, lefty says, “we must do something, and anything that helps is worth doing no matter how high the cost or how small the benefit” and righty says, “we really ought to focus on avoiding mistakes, especially expensive mistakes.” Lefty views passivity in response to problems as equivalent to antipathy, while righty views negative unintended consequences as equivalent to antipathy. Both sides are… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Drew
1 month ago

I mostly agree. I would clarify it by saying that ideals whether liberal or conservative are fine, but they can only be judged by their real-world results. You can call those events if you like, but the point is that this particular step is seldom done in politics. To make it somewhat political, consider that a conservative when he hits Rock Bottom will probably realize he has hit rock bottom and will try to slowly and painfully crawl out of the hole. In contrast the liberal idealogue will rent a Pneumatic hammer and try to make the hole even deeper.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
1 month ago

Spirited comments today. Excellent!

Vizzini
Vizzini
1 month ago

An example of how much so-called “conservative” media is in thrall to the leftist agenda.

Thou Shalt Not Mention Soros.

(Guess I should have expected that someone would beat me to that!)

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Auntie Analogue
Auntie Analogue
1 month ago

Z Man wrote: “[N]o right is absolute. There are always situations in which rights give way to the public good.” Were I you, Z Man, I should be careful not to make for the Left its “give way to the public good” arguments against the First and Second Amendments, and not to make for the Chinese Virus Lockdown Enforcers their arguments for masking, shutdowns, lockdowns, and social distancing so that “rights give way to the public good.” Yes, “there are…situations in which rights give way to the public good,” yet it takes a bit of care to discriminate situations that… Read more »

Armin
Armin
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

I tire of the tendency of conservatives to give these little admonitions about how showing any flexibility on some basic right for the sake of the public good, no matter how reasonable, will cause the left to feel justified in eliminating that right entirely to persecute us. The fact is that the left will always find some way to persecute us, whether or not we give them our implied moral consent. What that kind of concern trolling shows is that conservatives are, whether consciously or not, still granting the left the moral high ground. Why is it so hard for… Read more »

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Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Armin
1 month ago

Yeah this ranks right up there with the white normies who think that if they endorse whites self-organizing then other groups will use that as cover for their own self-organizing, while completely ignoring the fact that other groups besides whites don’t give two figs about whether or not whites self-organize.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Actually there is no constitution. The Commerce Clause was used by the left to blow away most of it, and leftist judges and politicians simply ignore the rest, unless it can be used to win whatever it is they want today.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

The constitution’s not dead, it’s actually living. That’s what the left says anyway. They call it a “Living Constitution” and bends and twists and conforms to anything the left wants it to.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Auntie Analogue
1 month ago

And really, what good is free speech? What words need to be publicly said that otherwise would not be permitted? Social taboos coexist alongside the 1st amendment, so do we really need public spaces polluted with lunatics and single-minded conspiracy theorists? Wouldn’t it better to simply argue about what speech should be banned instead of pretending that we want to put up with other people’s bullspit?

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Drew
1 month ago

It’s often been said at a different blog (which I won’t name because each time I do my comment gets moderated) that free speech is a lie. The only question is who regulates speech and to what end. I want sexually deviant speech banned. I want anti-White, anti-civilizational speech and behavior banned and prosecuted. In the demographic age, race must be considered first in every issue, other ‘moral’ principles be damned.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

I suspect your disposition toward speech, or something similar, will be normative in Whiteland. That said, it’s mighty obnoxious that in a nation that has made free speech the bedrock of existence, speech is no longer free, and bans are enforced based upon the political views of the erstwhile speaker.

BTP
Member
1 month ago

It’s a disease. I had a conversation once with a conservative about the absurdity of current zoning regulations that require acres of parking for each store & how that makes for ugly places nobody wants to be, cf literally every Target, Best Buy, etc. He asked how we might fix that and create the sort of downtown people like. I answer that, instead of absurdly high minimum parking space rules, we implement absurdly low maximum parking rules; this would force developers to create walkable town centers. His response was pure ideology. 1. I don’t want big government telling me I… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

Consider the problem from a slightly different perspective. Long ago there was so to speak zoning that allowed people to be restricted to or from certain areas 😈 . In many ways this worked far better than subsequent types of zoning.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Yeah – this gets to the old idea of subsidiarity, the concept that decisions should be pushed down to the lowest possible level of organization that is competent to manage them. Education: local. Policing a neighborhood: local. Foreign policy: national.

King Tut
King Tut
1 month ago

The conservative case for “Cuties”.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Mandela.

BCB
BCB
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Hopefully Jared Fogle is eating a lot of six-inchers now.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Jared’s life consisted of making personal appearances, shooting commercials, indulging in a lifetime supply of free Subway sandwiches, and amassing a multimillion dollar fortune for what was essentially a life of leisure. I wonder if he ever has a heart to heart talk with his cellmate Bubba and expresses any regrets.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Judge Smails
1 month ago

Not that it excuses anything, but Jared didn’t do one thing worse than any of Epstein’s clients such as Clinton and Dershowitz did. Guess which ones didn’t go to prison?

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

I read he is PC with the other pedos. Downside do to his position he is basically their king now as he is rich, famous and topping up everyone’s canteen is trivial to him.
Better to reign in hell than …

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Panopticon
Panopticon
1 month ago

Call me crazy, but for messaging purposes I think it’s still worth fighting over the word “conservative,” because it’s something that normies feel comfortable with.

Something like, “the people who call themselves conservatives have never conserved anything an nevel will. We’re the real conservatives. Do you want your grandchildren be able to walk down the street in safety? If so, support us.”

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Panopticon
1 month ago

I dunno, people hear “conservative” and they translate that to “Chamber of Commerce stooge”, and not without reason.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
1 month ago

The whole “Conservative” brand is messed up. Most normies don’t quite understand the difference between Mitt Romney and Pat Buchanan, even though it’s a vast difference. It’s better to scrap it and start over.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

When a product fails, the left just changes the name and packaging and puts it back up for sale. Colored, Negro, Black, African American, teen, person of color, justice involved youth. Don Draper has NOTHING on the left.

Higgs Boson
1 month ago

Retributive justice by weaponizing the poor is akin to trying to destroy a hammer by striking it with a nail. Rage is never a winning strategy. The hammer will always win.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Higgs Boson
1 month ago

It’s been quite a while since Thor put in an appearance in these parts.

Vizzini
Vizzini
1 month ago

Regarding the libertarian and conservative failure to consider consequences, I posted on a Reason thread the other day in an article The FIRST STEP Act Has Reduced Prison Terms for More Than 7,000 People I said Tell me again why I don’t want these people in prison? Drug laws are like a civil society compatibility test. Maybe you think drug laws are dumb, but if you think that means you don’t have to obey them, and you think committing felonies is just fine, then you fail to have what it takes to live in a civil society.People willing to commit… Read more »

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Excellent comment. The Slippery Slope nonsense goes both ways, something these types never consider. Legalize drugs? Hell, abolish the FDA and have street vendors distribute insulin! Some lolbertarians actually have made that argument. It would be nice if just once during the pot legalization debates the proponents acknowledged the social costs it carries. Like you, I don’t waste time on marijuana legalization as an issue but if someone truly believes heroin, for example, should be legalized (but a few of these types often think so-called “hate speech” should be criminalized), they are ridiculous people. Granted, the Sacklers don’t want street… Read more »

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

Insulin may not be available from street vendors, but you do not need a prescription to buy it. Some of the more recently ‘specialized’ insulins are legend drugs (i.e, not controlled but requiring an Rx), but plain old human insulin is available for the asking at a pharmacy. Libertarians probably know this and have it enshrined on their gratitude lists.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Libertarians simply aren’t serious people, something you underscore with the clown horn. They are basically college freshmen in the second semester of philosophy who have concluded they have discovered the meaning of life. When confronted with such an argument as, say, unregulated tech could lead to totalitarianism, their response is this is the price of liberty, and they will not bother to address the substance of the argument. The circular nature of their claims either doesn’t bother libertarians or they don’t even apprehend the circularity. One reason conservatism is such a failed ideology is it essentially has entered the same… Read more »

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

Their candidates (with the exceptions of Ron Paul and Harry Browne) tend to be loons. A statewide LP candidate in my state included legalizing ferrets as a campaign promise. The current VP nominee of the LP wears a boot on his head. While it might have had sincere origins, I suspect the LP is a scam offering to be a spoiler to the highest bidder to sway close races. Greens are probably the same.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  skeptic16
1 month ago

That’s Libertarian autism on play right there. There really aren’t good reasons for ferrets to be illegal but absolutely no one except ferret enthusiasts cares.
As to why Vermin Supreme (the boot on head guy) is running as Libertarian, No one else would.
Same with that satanist republican sheriff.
Power vacuum
I agree the LP is a scam and even when it wasn’t only made sense, sort of when the demographic age was not on us. Its a middle class White mostly guys thing.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

George Floyd’s fentanyl addiction alone — just one man — cost this country more than $2 billion dollars.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Two billion, eh. Total annual plus and minus balance from every white man woman child averages plus 2.8k and change, black: negative 10k and change–420 billion annualy counting income transfers only. Not calculating–AA, fake jobs, prison, cops, and the quality of life cost to maintain a safe distance. I have one child in Socal paying 80k annually for that one, the price of living upper middle class in a failing state.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

To paraphrase Voltaire, if George Floyd did not exist, it would be necessary for the left to invent him. It is not Floyd per se that has cost us billions, but slavery that has cost us trillions. As Zman has said, if we could go back in time and give the founders one piece of advice, it would be to pick your own damn cotton.

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

A few of our Founders understood this but many maybe most of the rest were grifters and without slavery there would have been no US.
Not to say slaves built it all or something but too many states refused to pay a decent price for labor.
Also no one would want to work in the cotton fields of the South and once the supply of indentured ran out. it would have been game over.
It couldn’t happen.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

Whites were made of far sterner stuff back then. Some of us would have worked in those cotton fields.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

Never underestimate American greed and cupidity. We fought a civil war over economic development being slow and careful, immigration restricted and moderate taxation.
Now assuming disease didn’t lay them low, they would have needed new indentured every few years which would have meant there were enough to sustain the type of economy the Southrons wanted.
Also picking cotton is awful work. It would have to be very bad at home to make anyone want to come and do that.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

The greed did precipitate slavery, which means slavery was inevitable. What I’m saying is that, if slave labor had not been available, America would still have come to fruition.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

I’ve just started reading “Founding Finance” about how the financial situation in the 1780s was used to justify the Constitutional Convention. Some made a killing on buying state debts that later got assumed by the federal government. I really wonder if the threat of British forts in the west was really all that threatening.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

It’s not too strong to say that slavery doomed America.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

That case interests me. Why did it take so long for the cop-cam footage to be released? Why were the autopsies released before the tox report came back? Would it have made any difference?

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Its not just a victim or dealer problem though. People like Purdue Pharma are huge contributors. Problem is that our society is not smart, honest or organized enough to deal with the problem. And this isn’t just an immigration or even a trade problem, Its one at the root of who we are as a nation and especially our highly White leaders, A society without a moral center, immiserated top down and obessed with money can’t live. No human wants to live here and even high fertility foreigners are having low fertility. Nearly every industrialized society is essentially dying with… Read more »

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

The blank slate drug dealer, not all drug dealers are the same game. Like black ghettos that exist because of white sponsored racism, we have a “drug problem” because too many laws against drugs are unfair. So the solution is no more laws. They will use talented tenth drug scenarios to invert the reality that for every innocent upstanding drug dealer that just happened to have too much weed on him there are hundreds of straight up criminals and savages that exist on that same channel of cultivation, distribution, sales, and purchase. And this doesnt even touch the toll on… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

I can’t think of a more perfect example of the Right accepting the Left’s premises, than the “marijuana is heroin!” argument.

Really, we need more laws against our own people. They were out of control, and must be ruthlessly repressed.

Consequences?

What consequences? We must signal our purity, our undying loyalty! Everybody knows US drug laws have benefited society, and the world. They are our strength.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

Now, hold on, people.
Continuing Prohibition gave us empowered womyn and Jewish rulers, an unmitigated public good.

Keep attacking the weak targets, conservatives! Chase that bunny, ’cause once we catch him… Victory!

DLS
DLS
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

When you point out that drug dealers are bad people who commit lots of other crimes, the libertarians responds with theories about personal freedom and the unfairness of drug laws.
Actually, I have found they respond by saying we should prosecute them for the other crimes, not the drug offenses. More pure theory BS.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Those “weed dealers” probably pled (is that a word?) down to cop to a lesser charge. That seems to be the reality these days.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  RoBG
1 month ago

There was a shootout last week between pot growers in SoCal where legalization was supposed to remove the criminal element.I think the “legalize it but tax and regulate the shit out of it” crowd needs to revisit their theory.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Hard drug crimes are like bait. You scoop up the drug criminals and you’re getting really bad people off the street.

Well put.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Here is a thought experiment. Even if you were vehemently anti drug what if freedom of Association or discrimination were legalized so that so that communities had control over their neighborhoods, like existed before World War II. That way you could banish virtually anybody, including drug users from your community. Would that be a fair trade-off?

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

If every drug user/dealer would be sterilized and prevented from going anywhere near kids, the terminally ill (there’s been a spate of cases where “health care providers” have been stealing pain meds from hospice patients,) or the elderly, then sure!

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

What kind of speeding? Driving 80 mph through a school zone? Some speeders should be put in jail.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Tom K
1 month ago

Well, yeah. I’m referring to your garden variety speeding ticket that perfectly normal, reasonable people get all the time. “45 in a 35 officer? I thought it *was* 45.” “Nope the speed drops down to 35 a block back.” “*Sigh* Okay.”

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

You’re not kidding. People on the next street over had cars pulling up to their house 24/7 (the neighbors hated them.) It blew up when someone called 911 and cops found the drugs and cash. So he gets taken away and the cops get social services involved because she’s obviously an addict as well as a dealer. Long story short: after boyfriend was in jail she took to selling her two little girls to momos to feed her habit. (BTW these people had all the trappings, SUVs, pool, boat . . .)

Panopticon
Panopticon
1 month ago

Conservativism used to mean defending the monarchy. I think the problem is, after that became antiquated, they never found an adequate thing to fill the vacuum. Capitalism ain’t it. The Cold War was a stroke of good luck, because it allowed them to delay this definitional action as they could define themselves by what they were against for a while. The fact is that conservatism will have to go back to defending something like a king–albeit rebranded with a different name. Unfortunately some of the neo-kings of the 20th century also have a tarnished brand, so we’ll have to come… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
1 month ago

This is why we need actual communities and not zip-codes.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

Not compatible with Capitalism at all. Capitalism requires fungibility and high mobility of labor and capital and communities require constancy.

mike gondek
mike gondek
1 month ago

The usual justification for zoning is that current owners don’t want to see the value of their property diminished by what they view as less desirable developments in the neighborhood. However, when a project enhances the value of their property they don’t feel obligated to share even a part of their gains with new guys. Then there’s the fact that cities are in a continual state of ferment, forever in a process of re-invention. The typical home owner might wish to live in a time capsule but that can’t happen. Horses and buggies aren’t the normal form of transportation in… Read more »

mike gondek
mike gondek
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

It didn’t matter what the Comanche community thought, the Euro-bandits moved in despite their verbal and physical zoning regulations.Those in control are masters of hypocrisy. The residents of Phoenix suburb Gilbert were all upset about an expansion of an electrical generating station in their neighborhood and loved to watch themselves at demonstrations against it on their televisions powered by that very plant.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  mike gondek
1 month ago

However, when a project enhances the value of their property they don’t feel obligated to share even a part of their gains with new guys.

That’s the point. Do you believe in the right of contract?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  mike gondek
1 month ago

Time capsules exist but land is very expensive. Think of historical districts, or places where Hobby Farms exist

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Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
1 month ago

“This is why no right is absolute. There are always situations in which rights give way to the public good.” The obsession with “rights” is an area in which conservatives hold hands under the table with the left. The latter behave as if, for example, any third world simpleton has a right to ignore borders, join colonies of illegals, and be supported by U.S. taxpayers. The former enable developers to build in the ‘burbs whatever ugly or high-density properties they think will make money — and win approval from planning boards packed with real estate interests. On both sides the… Read more »

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Higgs Boson
1 month ago

The left won’t devastate the white suburbs, or at least not long. They will have unintentionally found a way to fast-track dispensing RU 486 by conveniently located vending machines.

B123
B123
Reply to  Higgs Boson
1 month ago

You can get it by mail in the UK after a “telehealth consultation”… just temporary due to COVID ofc… oh wait nvm it will continue afterwards too.

Higgs Boson
Reply to  B123
1 month ago

Infanticide is legal in spite of strongly worded conservative opposition. The market for full term organs of non-whites at bioweapons labs is thriving. Whitey haikus their future in chinese for plausible deniability.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
1 month ago

These are the same developers that bribe politicians to be open borders. They’re worse than chicken plants at this point. Maybe there wouldn’t be this need for development if we set an upper limit on our population. These same “eco-friendly” politicians would give us a population bigger than China if we let them, which we are, because we’re a bunch of opiate addicts with no pride. It doesn’t help that the vast center of our country, including all of Texas, has some of the ugliest, unremarkable flat terrain with some of the worst weather on earth. It means that for… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 month ago

These same “eco-friendly” politicians would give us a population bigger than China if we let them, which we are, because we’re a bunch of opiate addicts with no pride. 


All the left cares about is power, and it will change positions on a dime if it increases their power. Yes, they can con people into fervent belief–that’s the point!–but it isn’t something they necessarily share. The point is to make people true believers so they are beholden to them.
Leftists would shoot every polar bear and pave every wilderness area and assassinate every environmentalist if it increased their power.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

At least there’s a shred of honesty in having sweet power as your modus operandi. There’s zero honesty on the current right. If the country continues on the same tangent as it is now, the old gray Sean Hannity’s of the right, 15 years from now, will be defending every point of doctrine that’s currently “Antifa.” Universal Basic Income will be seen as downright Jeffersonian. They need to be swept away. All of them. Even minimal critical thinking skills among the average right winger would do it. Sadly, it will take unmitigated tragedy instead.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 month ago

Flat, hot terrain with faux landscaping and strip mall after strip mall after suburb after suburb filled with refuse from all corners of the earth. As Range Front Fault puts it, I want to ‘kraal’ up in a small, rural community of White people and shut out the rest of the world.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  3g4me
1 month ago

Exactly right! With stucco covered polystyrene. And if you’ve noticed with the new construction we’re going back, yet again, to the well of early 60’s minimalism. Grandma was popping barbiturates back then to get over the ugliness, today it’s Xanax. When you look at most of our hot, ugly continental landmass, it was actually made for dull witted Mexicans, mulattos, ayrabs, Hmong and fat white women named Crystal who pull out the Costco five layer bean dip for a Netflix binge.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 month ago

Remember when the left told us to strive for zero population growth to protect the planet because we were 5% of the world’s population but used 20% of the resources? Now they tell us our economy won’t grow and social security will go bankrupt unless we have unrestricted immigration.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  skeptic16
1 month ago

To paraphrase Edward Abbey Capitalism and Big Everything has the morals of a cancer cell, grow at any cost. It can’t stop even if the attempt s killing the host as witnessed by Japan whose population stopped reproducing 30 years ago very much from overwork. Instead of making change, the elite would rather the entire society just die so they can harvest more money they don’t need and can’t use. Same with the Canadian elite, US elite etc. Shutting off modernity and the focus on growth will come eventually if only do to society ending, being overrun with people who… Read more »

B123
B123
1 month ago

Soon the Canadian model will be in full force. Just let in so many immigrants that the new housing on farmland swamps everything. Brampton, Ontario went from a 100% white town of 10,000 in the 1960s to a shithole of 700,000, supposedly only 25% white (in reality its less). Every white flight hamlet is getting swamped with new subdivisions. No need to fight the residents to build in the town. Just flatten everything outside and surround it. The rulers are admitting that diversity is a failure and that hbd is real. Instead of changing course they just say “fuck you”… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
1 month ago

There’s nothing new about the depravity of American urban planning and architecture. This is one of my favorite HL Mencken essays from the 20’s. He lived into the 50’s. I can only imagine what he would have thought of that era. American culture isn’t about beauty. You don’t come here for that. It’s a culture that wrecks anything nice, so why not wreck some outer suburbs that may actually look livable?
https://www.thoughtco.com/libido-for-the-ugly-by-mencken-1690254

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 month ago

The abomination that has been built around us is anything but “American”. It’s a perfect reflection of what it is – Merchant culture.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
1 month ago
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Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

First, we need someone with a lot of money

Well…yeah.
On that note, has no one on our side of divide ever won the lottery? Beyond that is it every old white guy’s dream to dump his money into some vehicle? It’s not like he’ll be buried in it.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
1 month ago

What kind of “free market” is it when government subsidizes high-density housing for the poor in suburban areas?

Vizzini
Vizzini
1 month ago

In a related vein, a couple months ago, I signed up for a Zoom meeting on our county’s rural broadband initiative, because I’m one of those sad people in the world stuck with nothing available to me but Satellite internet. It was hosted by the county’s chapter of the “Think Tank on Poverty.” Completely unwittingly, I have been given access to the inner world of leftist “community organizing.” The Zoom meeting itself was pretty useless, but at one point one of the non-speaking participants (like me) posted something in the chat window: “Broadband & Internet access are human rights” “WTF?”… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Half of the $300 million+ in Dem campaign donations are made through $100 “gift cards” by untraceable “unemployed” people. BLM-dot-com and Antifa-dot-com are fundraising arms for the Dem party, funneled through straw man organizations. It’s all fake, funded by a handful of George Soroses, Michael Bloombergs, and Tom Steyers of the world. Fake, manipulated, and working really well. Making the money of a few dozen and the hard work of a few thousand fellow travelers look like it is half the country. Fake, fake, fake.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

You know you’re rural when the local Zoom meeting isn’t hacked with Pr0n.

Rich
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Left plays offense and defense. Right plays only defense. Left pushes right all the way into the parking lot.

Vizzini
Vizzini
1 month ago

Darn. Made a too-long post with a couple links. Zman, if you’re reading this can you please approve?

HamburgerToday
HamburgerToday
1 month ago

My favorite post in a while. It points out how genuine conservatism and Fascism are closely allied. ‘Community standards’ (custom) supersedes all other considerations. Any other way and you end up with the destruction of the community, the one thing that keeps individuals from spinning off into the darkness of loneliness and despair.

Thud Muffle
Member
1 month ago

Left, Right, and Center we’ve been trying to ignore consequences for at least 50 years. Because we are rich.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 month ago

Totally OT, Connecticut imposed fines for not wearing masks today.

It’s a Ferguson economy.

State revenues are saved!

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

According to the Financial Times data, which has been pretty good as far as these things go, Connecticut has had no more than one or two CCP-virus deaths a day over the past two months.
This is a rolling seven-day average, so it could be ten one day and zero the rest of the week, that kind of thing, but it is averaging much less than two a day and has been for two months.
Time to mask up, good citizens! Llet us march off into the nanny-state arms of our safe, progressive future.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  The Right Doctor
1 month ago

My daughter’s Maine town did he same thing last week, imposed fines for mask violations. There have only been 130 attributed COVID death in the whole state since the pandemic began, and the bulk of those were months ago. Madness.