The Gathering Darkness

Steve Sailer famously quipped that political correctness is a war on noticing. By which he meant noticing human diversity. Initially, this started out as a war on noticing bad things about groups of people. Then it slowly evolved into prohibitions on noticing general differences between groups of people. After all, it was said, all people evolved from the same source. This process has continued to the point where it is now forbidden to notice anything about people.

A good example is in this tweet from the Journal of the American Medical Association, which is the premier peer-reviewed medical journal in the United States. Since the start of the Covid panic, it has been reported that blacks are more likely to contract the virus and more likely to need medical attention. This observation has been politicized, of course, but it is also a clue as to how the virus works. Naturally, there is money to find out why and scientific interest in the subject.

Given the racial unrest that has been manufactured by the nation’s elites, one would think that extra resources flowing into the care of black people would be celebrated by the great and good. If we are remaking movies, television shows and commercials to feature all black people, why not remake medical research too? As you can see from the replies, dogma trumps everything. While racism is a real thing, according to the one true faith, race is imaginary and racist.

The very first reply is emblematic of the modern age. It is from someone calling herself Rose Marie Leslie, MD. She claims to be a medical resident. On her twitter profile she lists the following: Top 20 docs on Social Media, Tiktok, Health Ed, Social Justice, Black Lives Matter and Repro Health. As if that was not enough self-parody, her comment was “Why are you spending the time and money on these studies instead of spending the time and money on fighting racism?”

Just below that comment we have a comment from someone calling herself Ramla N. Kasozi MD, MPH. They do not list their pronouns, so we must assume it is female, based on the profile picture. Mx. Ramla wrote, “An example of Biological Racism as discussed by Dr.@haw95 in her book ‘Medical Apartheid’ and Dr.@DrIbram book ‘How To Be Antiracist’.” According to Mx. Kasozi, noticing that Covid infects blacks more than whites is a form of racist experimentation.

In such a cornucopia of lunacy, it is hard to select the most bizarre, but the replies from someone calling herself Karen Gibbins, MD are a good nominee. Her first comment in the thread was, “Attributing genetic variants to race (which is socially constructed) is racist. Stop.” She then quickly replied to herself with, “And systemic racism is why there is why BIPOC are disproportionately harmed by COVID-19.” Racism, the cause of and cure for everything that is wrong in the world.

While these sorts of public displays of insanity are amusing, the salient issue here is the insane people highlighted are doctors. They work with real human patients in real medical settings. That means people are trusting doctors who think biology is imaginary and human diversity is a conspiracy. Given the histrionics, it is not implausible to think that a few of these people think sex is a social construct. Imagine being treated by someone who thinks your penis is a figment of your imagination.

The other salient issue is the panic that radiates from the replies. The mere mention of disconfirming data causes these people to panic. Their complaint is not about factual accuracy or medical efficacy. These are people deeply committed to a primitive animistic religion. This religion tells them that the world is controlled by various spirit forces, good and evil, engaged in a great struggle. Most important, their role in this great struggle is to fight the evil spirits.

Their commitment to this new faith is so complete that in the name of fighting racism, they would happily let blacks die from disease. If the price of helping the people they claim to care so much about is the acknowledgment that nature does not distribute her gifts equally among people or groups of people, then they are perfectly willing to see those people suffer and die. In fact, the suffering is a confirmation that these evil spirits are real and therefor the struggle is real.

The striking thing about this new faith is it is so primitive. These people are a very long way from the Christian looking up from Scripture and contemplating how God set the world in motion. These are people cowering in the darkness, deathly afraid to know what lies behind the movements of the world. Theirs is a world haunted by dread and foreboding, not a world of miracles to be explored. This is the great darkness that is settling on this age, the new dark age of the West.

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David wright
Member
24 days ago

A few years ago I went to a clinic supported by my insurance. Won the lottery and got a black doctor and special bonus, a black intern trainee was with him. Rather than list all the comic and blackpilling details let’s just say this was the most ridiculous doctor visit ever. Told me I had an infection and inflammation of my ear. Went to another doctor on my own dime and absolutely nothing wrong. They even got my blood pressure wrong. I have lots experiences and stories but for now, this little one. we shouldn’t coexist together, neither side is… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  David wright
24 days ago

Sailer has a good recurring bit about MCAT scores and medical school admissions broken down by race. About what you’d expect: you need a higher relative score go get in if you’re Asian or white. Admissible black MCAT scores are significantly lower.

Doesn’t mean Asian/Jewish/White doctors are necessarily better. But it’s not a bad way to bet, either.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  ProZNoV
24 days ago

Not to mention foreigners from India or Africa where there are much lower standards.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tarstarkas
24 days ago

In theory, there are government standards and certifications to insure some level of competence. But the bell curve is still there with all it entails. As I’ve posted before, the question of “ethnic” medical care is not merely academic to me: among my primary providers, pretty sure it’s one each Haitian, Indian, Pakistani, and one shrewish white woman, presumably American, thrown in for good measure. I doubt my exerience is typical, but in my case my medical team is 75% foreign-born.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
24 days ago

FWIW, if they left the home country to come here, it’s probably because they’re the cream of the crop and outliers in their countries bell curve. Plus, ambitious.

Michael
Michael
Reply to  ProZNoV
24 days ago

So true. What with all the immigrant curve busters it almost makes one question why they are eligible for Affirmative Action, quotas, set asides and disparate impact law priviledges.

Reply to  Michael
23 days ago

Ah, that good ol’ white privilege, again…

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  ProZNoV
24 days ago

Agree. To be fair, I’ve never had a bad experience with a foreign-born professional. And, if we’re going to have immigrants, these are the kind we want (with the usual provisos, not denying Americans jobs, etc.) And yes, I’m old school on immigration, when it didn’t in practice mean his entire village comes too 😀

Archer
Archer
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
23 days ago

Why do we need them? They don’t think they need us. You see this very clearly with Indians. Once they get into a position of power, they hire all Indians.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
24 days ago

Let’s see I’m pretty sure it’s you who gets to decide what doctor works on you so don’t complain when they cut off the wrong leg…

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Lineman
24 days ago

What company is your health insurance from? Clearly you are not on Medicare or having to get by with VA funded Docs. Most of us not being independently wealthy, we’re limited to the Doctors who accept our insurance. Insurance companies can be every bit as woke as any other corp or individual. Don’t believe me? Check out Sam’s Club/WalMart. Or Starbuck’s.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Bill Mullins
24 days ago

Oh you didn’t know Ben is independently wealthy that’s why he’s a layabout…

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  ProZNoV
24 days ago

I don’t want a brown or yellow person’s fingers digging around in my body

I am still young enough where doctors aren’t a part of my life, but finding a part of the country where the doctors are white is a huge factor in where I decide to move.

B123
B123
Reply to  Falcone
24 days ago

Yep, best to stay as healthy as possible.

By the time I’m 60 all our doctors will probably be aliens, and wI’ll probably flat out refuse to serve whites.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  Falcone
24 days ago

Hope you like Siberia, bring a hat.

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  ProZNoV
24 days ago

Yes it does mean they are better.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Phoenix
24 days ago

Probably, and since health care means personal information and intimate contact, I’d prefer someone who looks like me.

The best healthcare is self administered anyway. Eat well, don’t get fat, lift weights, avoid major stressors like divorce and crazy coworkers if you can.

Reply to  ProZNoV
23 days ago

The university in which I work very recently ceased requiring the SAT or ACT for admission. Approximately one quarter or colleges and universities in the US have scrapped this requirement. The chief reason for this abdication of standards? Why, diversity, of course! Diversity is the natural enemy of quality.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
23 days ago

The only good news is that true entrepreneurs like Musk and Thiel are wise to the scam that is modern college. Either one could care less about your alma matter or your $100k piece of paper…they’re much more interested in what you can bring to the business.

The more colleges waive SAT/ACT scores, the faster they’ll die a hard death when employers know the degree mills are a scam and the students quit enrolling.

(bit worried about waiving MCAT’s, however)

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
22 days ago

I always wondered if diversity is such a strength, why does it have to be forced?

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
22 days ago

You can have quality, or you can have equality. Pick only one.

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  David wright
24 days ago

And let me guess – either the doc or intern were an ESL graduate with African accent. This is becoming a particular problem in rural areas … these foreigners are recruited because the American docs can’t make their big bucks in the boonies.

My family has had similar experiences. As a result, risk of death or permanent bodily harm are the only reasons we’ll visit a doc. Have seen the medical industry cause and exacerbate too many health problems.

David wright
Member
Reply to  CAPT S
24 days ago

One was definitely foreign, jamaican or possibly african.

brunob
brunob
Reply to  David wright
24 days ago

thinking of questions to explode these people’s (termed loosely) heads is great fun.
“Is the NFL (NBA, MLB, etc) racist”?

Mr-White
Mr-White
Reply to  David wright
24 days ago

We lucked out, we have a Scotsman. He fits right in with the descendants of Braveheart in these parts.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  CAPT S
24 days ago

I take a middle path. I still go for routine care and testing, but I also would be skeptical of any but the most routine medical advice, drugs prescribed, etc. If any major health issues or procedures crop up, I would get a 2nd (“White” perhaps) opinion, even on my own dime. It’s one thing to have your witch doctor Haitian cardiologist order an echo cardiogram, and then prescribe a routine statin. It’d be quite another to let him do open heart surgury without checking his record.

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CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  CAPT S
24 days ago

Welcome (back) to the 1800’s. 🙁

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  CompscI
24 days ago

Like every issue, it’s complicated. There were things our 19th century great-grandparents knew about health that we’ve dismissed, because we’re so “advanced.” I’ve read more than a few “grandma cures” from earache to appendicitis … and we’ve tested quite a few that have a scientific basis. Amazing what can be accomplished with apple cider vinegar, olive oil, and activated charcoal. And knowing some basic chemistry, like acid vs alkaline … i.e. cancer cells generally don’t survive in an alkaline environment. If we’re going to carve out our own thing while seceding from Big Pharma, I think a “Back to the… Read more »

B123
B123
Reply to  CAPT S
24 days ago

Can you recommend any sites or books that talk about this?

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  B123
24 days ago

On the cancer front check out “The Cancer Battle Plan” by Dr. Frahm. A lot of what I mention above comes from 30 years or so of reading. Also note that a lot of alternative medicine practitioners have a religious element you may have to week through. But also check out Dr. Christopher’s “School of Natural Healing.” Start with those and then start browsing the bibliographies … lots of info out there. My eldest daughter is a Certified Natural Herbalist – her comment is “expect everyone in the medical community to label all naturopathy as quackery.”

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Daniel Raymond Hanson
Daniel Raymond Hanson
Reply to  CAPT S
24 days ago

Looks like cancer is curable https://www.mycancerstory.rocks/single-post/2016/08/22/Shake-up-your-life-how-to-change-your-own-perspective

And the Obesity Code by Dr Fung. good stuff

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  CAPT S
24 days ago

Capt, I may have not been clear. I’m with you. My comment was to indicate that doctors were not considered heroic lifesavers back then as they are today.

Indeed, there are current writings and discussion on whether doctors saved more lives than they took until the late 1800’s or early 1900’s. Late 1800’s if you take understanding of epidemiology into account. 1900’s with better training, accreditation, and medications, and such. The profession began to get the best and brightest in its ranks.

AA promises to set medicine back a century if it continues to degrade the profession.

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  CompscI
24 days ago

Roger that Compsci – I’m with you. My reply wasn’t intended as a retort; was trying to flesh out that “back to the future” idea.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  CompscI
24 days ago

Agree

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  CompscI
24 days ago

At least back then any doctor would have been without exception,White, (even while bleeding you or sawing off a limb with a shot of whiskey for anesthesia). Now, not so much. And god forbid you (or your advocate) request or demand a White MD in an emergency situation…

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  usNthem
24 days ago

That’s why Community matters…

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  CAPT S
24 days ago

Ahh sorry to hear that Capt all our doctors up here have been white and our primary doctor wants to actually keep us healthy instead of just treating our symptoms…

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  Lineman
24 days ago

Yeah, that’s the downside to a temperate climate … the browns are relatively comfortable here. Twenty below zero has a tendency to drive off the riff-raff.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  CAPT S
24 days ago

Fuerle’s book claims, new to me, that IQ increases as you move north from Equator. Temperate zones “selected for” bigger brains, because of the wide seasonal swings require more cooperation, planning and foresight to survive. But curiously, people grow slightly dumber in the Arctic, because the ice is year-round and, like the scenery for the second sled dog, the diet (100% hunting) doesn’t change much. Life was (and is) relatively easier in the tropics where avoiding being eaten (including by other humans!) was more of a problem than getting something to eat for yourself. A large brain being unnecessary to… Read more »

David
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
24 days ago

It was the discovery of farming that controlled for higher intelligence. Chinese discovered it roughly 1k years before europeans. 10,000 year explosion and Troublesome Inheritance have a nice explanation

Exile
Exile
Reply to  David
23 days ago

Farming started in Anatolia, the Levant and/or Mesopotamia before E. Asia, likely about 2-3000 years earlier. It’s a Neolithic hallmark.

Where does “10,000 Year Explosion” state that the Chinese discovered farming? I don’t see that anywhere in my copy.

“Farming appeared first in the Fertile Crescent of Southwest Asia. By 9500 BC…From there farming spread in all directions, showing up in Egypt and western India by 7000 BC and gradually moving into Europe and India. Around 7000 BC, rice and foxtail millet were domesticated in China.”

Cochran, Gregory. The 10,000 Year Explosion (p. 68)

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Exile
Exile
Reply to  Exile
23 days ago

The European genetic heritage comes from 3 groups – those Anatolian farmers, the Indo-Europeans and native Euro hunter gatherers. See Kevin McDonald’s latest book “Individualism…”

K-selection correlates with IQ and it’s present in both farming societies and HG’s who lived in harsh environments e.g. NW Europe.

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MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Exile
23 days ago

I had the same reaction; thanks for doing the leg work on this

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  CAPT S
22 days ago

“Iatrogenic risk.” But also, a normal US citizen from med school has at least $200,000 in student debt. How do you make a life at a rural job’s $60k a year with that debt to pay? Its sysiphean.

Anna
Anna
Reply to  David wright
24 days ago

American Jewish male doctors are gone. You can only find over 60 yrs olds. I am sure antisemites rejoice.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Anna
24 days ago

Women should be banned from med school. They work fewer hours per year, they work fewer years and they generally don’t want anything but normal daytime hours. Women are a good portion of why there are shortages of doctors.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
24 days ago

I believe that Japanese medical schools strongly favor male students for this very reason. There is also some indications that women doctors are less decisive than their male counterparts. Women physicians, not surprisingly, tend to specialize in pediatrics.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
24 days ago

Some of the very worst providers out there these days are pediatricians. The parents (mothers) like them because they are “empathetic”, and that’s really all that matters. We have a local pediatric PA is always orders a particular test on every kid she sees. When we try to explain that it is unnecessary and adds additional costs to the families (insurance companies are pretty good about not paying for unnecessary testing), all you get is condescending attitude. She also lacks a fundamental understanding of what the test results actually mean, yet she bases much of her patient care on tests… Read more »

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Outdoorspro
24 days ago

I know what test you’re talking about, there are several, and it’s a common scam scummy docs love running on worried parents.

Anna
Anna
Reply to  tarstarkas
24 days ago

Where is the proof women are guilty of MDs shortages??? Historically when white males leave the profession that profession is caput.
And they leave when there are better chances somewhere to apply their talent for personal and professional satisfaction. Medicine is the latest example of that happening. Indians, chinese and yes, women are filling the void.

el-porko
el-porko
Reply to  Anna
24 days ago

I think you have cause and effect reversed. As professions become more female and/or pajeetified, there is an exodus of men. At a basal level, we know that there is no honor in competing with women in “women’s work”.

Mr-White
Mr-White
Reply to  el-porko
24 days ago

Basal is indeed a word, at a basic level.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Anna
24 days ago

Women suck as doctors

Scientific fact

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Falcone
24 days ago

I was grandfathered into the care of a black woman doctor after my primary left the practice I was using.

Don’t let this happen to you.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Falcone
24 days ago

Well, there are some things women suck good at – should I have said that?

Ray-dell
Ray-dell
Member
Reply to  Falcone
23 days ago

But they make great judges, right? Right?

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Anna
24 days ago

Check out this video at 26:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w__PJ8ymliw

Ray-dell
Ray-dell
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
23 days ago

Girl. Writes what! She was part of my early Red pill. Along with Bernard Chapin of Chapins inferno…..

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Ray-dell
23 days ago

Yeah, I followed Chapin for years. He was a good guy, but a bit too much on the cucky side. As the manosphere changed, he just couldn’t keep up. He had a huge spat with Rockin Mister E, over the JQ of all things. He does some kind of podcast today. I used to love his Rudalpho routines.

Ray-dell
Ray-dell
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
23 days ago

Right! Rudolpho! He also did bits like “zril science”. He got me going in this direction. He was also very prolific, like z, which I admire.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  tarstarkas
24 days ago

Women are also far more likely to bail to a management/HR position or have kids and leave the workforce entirely.

Both scenarios render worthless the costly investment in their training and development.

David
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
24 days ago

This is one of the core issues. Affirmative action pushes doctoral programs to prefer women, yet studies show even the highest paid women work less than HALF as long in that profession as men. Obamacare regulations didnt make doctors’ jobs fun either. Hundreds commit suicide yearly and are replaced with NURSE PRACTITIONERS.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  David
23 days ago

It’s the same in engineering.

Actually, it may be even worse because 90-95% of women in engineering roles create zero, or even net negative value from day one.

David wright
Member
Reply to  thezman
24 days ago

I work with a lot of dentists and the franchise operations are killing the independents. A few I know went to work for them and many make about $80,000 or less. Upsell the crowns etc. for more money.

bubba
bubba
Reply to  David wright
24 days ago

Dentistry is a giant scam.

Anna
Anna
Reply to  thezman
24 days ago

Another Russian limerick:
The Jews are gone and now Uzbeks are treated by Uzbek doctors. Welcome to the real Holocaust!

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Anna
24 days ago

My childhood doctor was a Jew that lived a few doors down from us in the city. He was great, but I hated his home visits because he always gave me my “shots”. 😉

Ray-dell
Ray-dell
Member
Reply to  CompscI
23 days ago

I………..dont get it

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Anna
24 days ago

Another (((Russsian))) limerick, of course.

David wright
Member
Reply to  Anna
24 days ago

With my continuing eustachian tube problems I finally went to a fifty something jewish specialist. The best experience of all. The Indian just wanted to keep taking hearing tests for the bucks which I declined.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Anna
23 days ago

I’d rather see you out of media, law, government and finance, tbh.

Medicine is probably where your tribe does the least macro-damage, although their rabid enthusiasm for abortion and subversion of psychology have certainly been very damaging to Whites.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  David wright
24 days ago

Have you seen the dancing Tik Tok doctor, a resident at Oregon Health and Sciences University Hospital. In the news story he seems like a nice enough guy but is probably feeling in over his head. In making these hip hop dance videos he has retreated to his comfort zone where he feels he has the most control. Remember Dr. Lexus in the movie Idiocracy, we will soon wish we had medical providers that good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zin1gOuNMiQ

Julius
Julius
Reply to  Judge Smails
24 days ago

“My ex-wife was ‘tarded. She flies planes now.”
Sheer genius.

Julius
Julius
Reply to  David wright
24 days ago

You should have had him roll the other bag of bones. Or at least had him roll two out of three to determine root cause of the problem. Sheesh. On the brighter side, at least you didn’t go in for a well visit and come out missing a testicle.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  David wright
24 days ago

Your example is a good one to illustrate incompetence—usually a result of AA in the profession. Z-man points out how fanatic equalitarianism may rob minorities of appropriate, state-of-the-art, medical care. But there is another aspect of such blind ideology which will affect White people as well. If you can’t postulate and discover differences between races, you can’t tailor treatment regimes to either Blacks—or Whites!

Mediocrity will rule the day. One size fits all, whether that’s ineffective for White or Blacks or both. Only that way can we be truly equal. Equal in misery that is.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  CompscI
24 days ago

Blacks are 80% more likely to have peanut allergies as compared with whites. Let THAT sink in, Dr. Carver.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
24 days ago

The hell with Blacks, think Indians. Good god, the clinics here are full of these poor people. Last honest doctor (he might have been a public Health PhD) to discuss why the obesity and diabetic epidemic basically said, “…these people are not used to eating three meals a day and a grain diet…they were hunters and game was not regular…”. He was spot on and simply trying to draw attention to diet and exercise. He was canceled, and the tribes are not one whit better for it.

Philip Gahtan
24 days ago

Yesterday’s Court Jesting. Planned Parenthood vs Casey. Upheld for the most part roe v wade. There were 8 REPUBLICANS on the Court. One democrat and he voted to overturn Roe

8 Republicans could not come up with 4 more votes. Abortion will never be overturned. Just theater.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Philip Gahtan
24 days ago

Even if overturned, it would be days before there was a national Right to Abortion law, no doubt justified by the…ding ding ding!….”Commerce Clause”!

It’s the catch all for literally everything SCOTUS wants to give authority for the feds to do. And it would be popular…women like them some abortions.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Philip Gahtan
24 days ago

2A is the real battle. The four liberals will again say the constitution doesn’t mean what it says, but what they feel it should mean, and will allow restrictions so tight that 2A is rendered null and void. That is why I take these nominations seriously. McConnell might be usually worthless, but he has saved us from a 6-3 liberal court, and we will probably end up with 4 conservative, 3 liberal and 2 squishes. Not sure who the second squish is yet, but odds are there will be one.

mike gondek
mike gondek
Reply to  DLS
24 days ago

When the US Constitution was ratified “arms” meant something different than it does now. Arms included all weapons, pikes, spears, knives,bows, crossbows, swords and maces as well as the primitive smoothbore muskets of the era. But heartland areas of the country like Iowa feel obliged to make my switchblade illegal and the nine Solomons agree. Batshit.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  mike gondek
24 days ago

Yes, and well-regulated meant well trained and armed, not subject to every restriction the nine Solomons allow. And militia didn’t mean the National Guard. The state militias were meant to protect us from the National Guard.

Mr-White
Mr-White
Reply to  DLS
23 days ago

The State militias were reorganized as National Guard in 1902 – but they remain state militias under control of the governors unless Federalized. That reorg was done to improve training and funding – you are correct that well regulated meant organized and trained – still does. The founders knew well you can’t build an army or even units by throwing together a bunch of strangers with guns – a lesson lost on the present generation. The Founders Army certainly wasn’t thrown together – the entire Revolution was organized by Veterans of The French and Indian War. The Minutemen were no… Read more »

Ray-dell
Ray-dell
Member
Reply to  DLS
23 days ago

Before Lincoln invaded. It seems that states were like little countries. The fed was very weak and loose. After lincoln, the states were less powerful. A militia makes sense if a state was like a country , but not if it is just a territory in a big country.

Lee called Virginia “his country”

c matt
c matt
Reply to  mike gondek
22 days ago

There is a reason they used the term “arms” rather than a list of specific weapons. They were not idiots. They knew the club gave way to the sword, which gave way to the longbow, which gave way to the musket, etc. They may not have anticipated fully automatic AR308s, but they knew something would eventually replace the musket.

B123
B123
Reply to  DLS
24 days ago

Agree. All white countries have had their guns confiscated. Except Americans.

I believe that “they” will not start their anti white genocide until Americans are disarmed. Rittenhouse could have taken 50.

Mr-White
Mr-White
Reply to  DLS
24 days ago

Curious; of what use are the arms in any case? They are silent.

Why bother? Why draw fire when you’ll never return fire?

Ivar
Member
Reply to  Mr-White
23 days ago

And the more guns they have, the less likely they will use any of them.

Ray-dell
Ray-dell
Member
Reply to  DLS
23 days ago

I was just at Chesapeake. VA’’’s. City council meeting, on keeping Chesapeake 2A open carry. What was very weird was no opponents were there, but the council read 45 minutes worth of emails who want to ban open carry in public parks and city buildings and protests.

Chesapeake held fast, for now. Fairfax, Alexandria, RVA, C’ville prohibit carry on permitted events and all public/government space

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Philip Gahtan
24 days ago

Abortion is an industry now. The people who make a living off of it have to keep the racket going. The number of abortion per year in the United States has been dropping, probably because increased contraception usage and partly due to changing public opinion. Abortion is under no threat of becoming illegal in the United States, the industry gins up this theater to get donations from the faithful to fill in their revenue shortfall.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Barnard
24 days ago

When Roe v Wade was decided (wrongly) there were (IIRC) 6 States with some sort of legalized abortion (other than exceptions for rape, incest, and life of woman). A ruling on abortion from SCOTUS will, in all likelihood, simply toss the decision back to the States. So Alabama closes its one remaining “clinic”, but how many other States go dry, so to speak?
Abortion will alway be a bus ticket away. And for most of the population centers, no change.

Ray-dell
Ray-dell
Member
Reply to  CompscI
23 days ago

Its. Symbolic.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
24 days ago

In America today everyone can be Caligula.

whitney
Member
24 days ago

This war on noticing has been going on a lot longer than anyone realizes. I mean think about the story of man on Earth. They were all these different hominid species running around the earth at the same time and then it’s some point all the other species died out and we’re left with one species Homo sapiens that rules the Earth. And it is completely unimportant that this one species has so many Divergent characteristics. I call Shenanigans. Either we’re all different species or the Neanderthals and Denisovans are actually the same species. Can’t have it both ways

Horace
Horace
Reply to  whitney
24 days ago

The genomic revolution has led to a general review of taxonomic classification (it was never just humans that were sequenced) with the sole exception of humans. The vast majority, of course, the scientists of our better past got right the first time. I can’t recall the reference, but there was an emeritus professor who asserted that if we applied the same standards of genomic variation to humans that we apply to other animals, then we would humans would comprise 8-16 (iirc that was his spread) species. The definition of species is more granular than simple simple ability to create a… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Horace
24 days ago

That may be true, but I think you still have to divide species into talking and non-talking. Language is a manifestation of conscience and self-awareness. It’s just that some groups of the talking species have dramatically lower deductive reasoning capabilities and impulse controls.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  DLS
24 days ago

But what is talking? Communication? Do dolphins talk? Not disputing, just adding some nuance.

whitney
Member
Reply to  CompscI
24 days ago

what you’re looking for is hyoid bone. Neanderthals had them and chances are they could speak just like we can

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  whitney
24 days ago

I’m familiar with the mechanics, it’s the concept of talking and what the brain—any brain—does with it when heard.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  CompscI
24 days ago

What goes on in your head pretty much corresponds to what comes out of your mouth, and even the most primitive human language is vastly more complex than dolphin talk or chimp.

That’s why we hold Pygmies responsible for their actions, but don’t blame a gorilla if it rips a leg of a child.

#RIPHarambe

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Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  CompscI
24 days ago

Hominid-talk. If you can learn to speak English, you’re not an animal.

Biology is supremely important, but it’s not everything. I might find some hominid tribes less civilized than animals, but if they speak human, I cannot fool my brain into thinking they’re not human.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  DLS
24 days ago

Your dog thinks you’re full of shit.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Horace
24 days ago

Fuerle mentions much of the same in his book; it is well footnoted and biblographied so the curious could look for background references there. DoubleThink that evolutionists/biologists must use for Egalitarian Political Correctness: It’s ok if there millions of species of life forms and perhaps even subspecies. But if you’re dealing with man, please don’t even mention the concept of race. That’s purely a social construct. Somehow, the thinking apparently goes, Homo sapiens evolved over a period of hundreds of thousands of years in wildly varying environments upon the Earth, yet somehow has managed to keep all his alleles (genes)… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
24 days ago

“Race” is merely a term of art. What counts is that at a genetic level we can divide and classify broad—and even narrow—groupings of humans. These groups can be shown to be different in many traits, some trivial (skin color), some important (intelligence). That is not disputable scientifically, so those daring to speak the truth must be canceled. Arguments for or against are a waste of time. Those who need to be persuaded are not listening.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
24 days ago

Another random example of academic double standards is the definition of schizophrenia. If you speak to your invisible friend, you’re a psycho. Unless everyone around you also speak to him, then you’re just religious.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Horace
24 days ago

What is the FST? FST is an abbreviation for the Fixation Index. The Fixation Index is a measure of population differentiation due to genetic structure. Presented as a table, it denotes the genetic “distance” between any two populations of living things based on genetic polymorphism data.

According to Wikipedia [shaddup], FST between Europeans (CEU) & sub-Saharan Africans (YRI {Yoruba tribe}) is 0.153.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixation_index#Autosomal_genetic_distances_based_on_SNPs

The FST between North American wolves (NAGW) & coyotes (REF) is coincidentally also 0.153 according to an analysis of their genomes.

https://www.fws.gov/southeast/pdf/publication/red-wolf-genetics-research-von-holdt.pdf

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  whitney
24 days ago

By any reasonable definition of the word, there are multiple human species on the planet right now.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  tarstarkas
24 days ago

I think so

Thinking there is only one leaves too many questions unanswered

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  tarstarkas
24 days ago

I have family near New Orleans. Can confirm.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  whitney
24 days ago

Yet again I shall plug Richard Fuerle’s excellent (and free!) Erectus Walks Amongst Us which (mostly) deals with man’s evolution, and offers theory quite different from the accepted. Most of his material rings true. One claim that suprised me (assuming these are true) is that related species can mate (no news there to anyone that’s even seen a mule) but news to me was that the hybrid sometimes is fertile, effectively a new species. Further muddying the genetic waters is that over the achingly long time spans of evolution, not only did neighboring races (subspecies) interbreed, but sometimes related species.… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
24 days ago

Reading Fuerle right now. You best contribution to the group yet Ben.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  CompscI
24 days ago

Thank you for a left-handed compliment 🙂 I think I found Fuerle on a ZH post. It and Taylor’s Paved with Good Intentions are two of the best books I’ve seen on the topic, and both more readable than the powrful but rather dry Bell Curve. Actually if you want really dry, like a silica gel Martini 😀 try reading some of the academic books. Ugh.
Fuerle avaiable free at achive.org

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tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
24 days ago

Check out some of the peripheral stuff. I was reading a book on ‘race and crime through a Routine Activity lens’ (I think that is what it was called). This is how they disentangle genetics and behavior. Xir Science plants papers blaming social conditions in “peer reviewed journal” and then other leftists cite it and add some new bullshit. Their pet theory in this book was blacks commit crimes at a much higher rate for 3 reasons. Structural racism, a “changing” economy and toxic masculinity. The toxic masculinity part is because of the white patriarchy. This was a college textbook!… Read more »

Member
Reply to  whitney
24 days ago

If you watch any documentary on human evolution there’s bound to be a little remark about how “mysterious” it is that there were many human species not so long ago and now there’s only one from Cape Town to Thule, and they’re all exactly the same one, EXACTLY THE SAME ONE. Expect the world to get more “mysterious” in this way as a lot of our sciences get re-imagined to dance around the pet issues of thin skinned lunatics of all types. All those grand organizing principles of nature we thought we had discovered will be shattered into myriad particulars… Read more »

Valchad
Valchad
24 days ago

Interesting observation about the onset of antiracist religion being concomitant with the onset of a new dark age. A similar trend is emphasized in Charles Oman’s book on the Dark Ages – he outlines how the disasters the befell the E. Roman Empire, from the reign of Justinian onward through the 7th century, initiated a period of darkness. This was accompanied by the growth of superstition, reduction in learning and curiosity, increase in banditry, crumbling infrastructure, foreign wars and occupations, etc. Oman points to idol worship as one notable result; I predict the antiracist religion will find their idols and… Read more »

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Valchad
24 days ago

I don’t think so. Primitive religions were mostly based on the people anthropormophising forces of nature that exerted power over their lives in an attempt to influence those forces. More sophisticated treatments would evolve to merely accepting the power of such forces. The modern post Christian religion of progressivism (or whatever you want to call it) is based on the idea that everyone is the god of their own universe. They can be and do whatever they want with without any unattended consequences. That’s the opposite of elemental paganism. They hate Christianity and now actual science because both describe absolute… Read more »

whitney
Member
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
24 days ago

“everyone is the god of their own universe.” against the first commandment “They can be and do whatever they want” because man is inherently good against the dogma of original sin I do believe this is a war on God and Christians. It’s a bunch of different arrows aimed at the same target. Christianity is the only religion that made all people equal before God. It’s the basis of our belief in equality before the law and we all know how that’s been perverted. Their highest sacrament of abortion is not really a bad thing for the muslim’s or the… Read more »

Ray-dell
Ray-dell
Member
Reply to  whitney
23 days ago

Chritianity is for every race, but it is primarily a white dominated religion. THATS why they are attacking whites

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
24 days ago

A caveat to your ‘They can be and do whatever’… as long as it isn’t deemed to be racist (whatever that might be on any given day)
Your last sentence is spot on – although it appears one could now rightly add actual math to actual science.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
24 days ago

2+2=5 proves your point.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Jack Dobson
24 days ago

You’re wrong, Jack. 2+2=5 isn’t always correct. The experts inform us that sometimes it is, and sometimes it isn’t.

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ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Jack Dobson
24 days ago

THERE.ARE.FOUR.LIGHTS.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
24 days ago

I disagree, the highest aspiration of the Social Justice heresy appears to be separating the soul from the body to better show their “true selves”. Trannies are attempting to escape the confines of their body to better express their soul, or their brain in their parlance. Similarly, abortion and hormonal birth control is an attempt to escape the female form. They want to find what they truly are, so they aspire to escape their physical forms. For this, their souls are tormented, but they can manage even this with tranquilizers. What they don’t understand is that our souls and our… Read more »

BTP
Member
Reply to  Tykebomb
24 days ago

And, thus, why the Cathars were put to the stake.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Tykebomb
22 days ago

So they’re Manicheans?

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
22 days ago

So they’re Mormons?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Valchad
24 days ago

The Lorraine Motel, a/k/a the National Civil Rights Museum, is the Medina of anti-racism. There are quite a few Meccas.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
24 days ago

Oh God, hahahaha. There’s another Mecca.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Jack Dobson
24 days ago

true, in mecca they don’t lick just any rock, but a black rock.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  sentry
24 days ago

That’s not a rock they are licking over here, that’s for certain.

Mantis_toboggan_md
Member
Reply to  thezman
24 days ago

This museum is located in Montgomery and has this wall of coffins at the entrance, one for each state with a lynching. The well funded cucks who run the museum are demanding states take home their coffin as a mark of shame for lynching joggers.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Mantis_toboggan_md
24 days ago

I am sure the city fathers of Montgomery are open minded enough to allow me to open a victims of black crimes museum. Right?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Judge Smails
24 days ago

Blacks kill more blacks in about 9 months than died during the entire century (MOL) of the lynching era. Whie I personally would prefer the fair trial over lynch method, it has been noted that Whites got lynched too, as well as the opinion, probably correct, that the majority of lynching victims were guility of a crime (not necessarily a capital offense, though.) Still, when all you have is a crowd, a tree, and a coil of rope, you sometimes have to improvise.

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Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  thezman
24 days ago

There is a lynching museum in Alabama.

Cannon Hinnant was from Alabama.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
24 days ago

Ooops! North Carolina.

The Right Doctor
Reply to  thezman
23 days ago

Wonder how much space they devote to the approximately 20% of lynching victims in this country who were white? Ever hear of citizens hanging a white horse thief?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Valchad
24 days ago

You might want to research who was responsible for the burning of the Library of Alexandria, among other atrocities of the time. Hint: it’s not only idolators and pagans at fault here.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  whitney
24 days ago

Thanks, great link.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  whitney
24 days ago

thanks. Bookmarked. Assuming your source is correct, at least I was correctly citing incorrect authoritative sources 🙂
Who was it who said “History is a pack of lies written after the fact, by people who were never there.”?

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Valchad
24 days ago

This was accompanied by the growth of superstition

You mean Christianity. The Romans were polytheist pagans throughout their heyday.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
24 days ago

You are so much more interesting when you’re not being boorish, Felix.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  BTP
24 days ago

Thanks.

sentry
sentry
24 days ago

The only place where you can point out race differences is in dungeons and dragons role playing game, even there you see dudes playing orcs with high Intelligence.

Orc Bandit
Orc Bandit
Reply to  sentry
24 days ago

Actually, I believe racial differences (inherent traits) are being removed in the latest update to Dungeons and Dragons along with making Orcs more sympathetic. Many elements of our culture have been sterilized or otherwise destroyed in this latest pogrom. It’d be harrowing to see a list: Several television shows have had episodes removed: 30 Rock, Scrubs, The Golden Girls, etc. South Park has long been censored. RPG board games have been scrubbed of anything racial — racial traits and imagery. Several police shows have been canceled. A university sold one of Jackson Pollack’s paintings to make room for non-whites. Hundred… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Orc Bandit
24 days ago

In a nutshell, popular entertainment is now government approved and sanctioned rot

Time to start using our brains and creativity to make our own fun and entertainment. Shouldn’t be difficult. We did it as kids.

Cameron
Cameron
Reply to  Orc Bandit
24 days ago

The shredded “Mexican cheese” we buy was renamed “Fiesta cheese”.

RIP Land o’ Lakes Indian – 12 year old boys can’t do the Indian woman boob trick anymore:

https://practical-jokes.wonderhowto.com/how-to/do-land-olakes-indian-butter-boob-trick-0129187/

Ray-dell
Ray-dell
Member
Reply to  Cameron
23 days ago

Haha! I remember that in elementary schooL! What a loss.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Orc Bandit
24 days ago

Another case to gloat at Egalitarian paints self into corner: Now that DC has finally committed itself to rename the (former) Redskins to “Washington’s football team,” what are they going to do with that new name? We can’t use that! He owned slaves! If they are going to rename the city too, might I suggest they use the name of George’s favorite slave? And when you rename the State, use something different. I’m still waiting to hear how any of these cultural whitewashings (nope, they need a better name, sorry BLM!), erasing history, censoring and so on, will do a… Read more »

Ray-dell
Ray-dell
Member
Reply to  Orc Bandit
23 days ago

”How is eating p*ssy and living in the Soviet Union similar? One slip of the tongue and youre in deep sh*t” Sorry for the sophomore joke, but I just remembered this from when I was 10. I didn’t get the sexual reference at the time, but it implied that the Soviet Union (in 1982) was bad because you couldn’t say certain things. It was almost unbeleiveable that that was true. I knew you could say things that were impolite, but there would not be severe consequences like the the USSR We can now ask this: ”How is eating p*ssy and… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Ray-dell
22 days ago

I remember the one
“In America we are free because we can criticize the American government with impunity”
“In Russia we are also free because we can criticize the American government with impunity”

usNthem
usNthem
24 days ago

Another good example of why blacks in particular and women in general should be as far away from critical decision making situations as possible. Too little intelligence in the former and too much emotion in the latter.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  usNthem
24 days ago

“Too little intelligence” versus “too much emotion”? Are they not similar? Even flip sides of the same token?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
24 days ago

Racism-haunted world, it is. Their faith and dedication to the Word of Ta-Nehisi may be insane and ignorant but this sort of spiritual awakening has flowered before in Berlin, in Moscow, in Tikal, the bodies stacked like cordwood the common denominator. Once the One True Faith migrates from cynical politicians (all of them, basically) and other grifters and finally is embraced by professionals, the work is near complete save for ferreting out heretics and the constant improvement of the congregation. Factions almost assuredly will arise, and new rounds of auto de fes and struggle sessions will ensue, rinse and repeat,… Read more »

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SamlAdams
SamlAdams
24 days ago

Soon we’ll be back to blaming cholera on “miasmas”. And we’ll have cholera outbreaks too, since both are Jim Snow science.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  SamlAdams
24 days ago

Re-primitivizing certainly will have constant diseases in part due to the bad hygiene and lack of sanitation.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Jack Dobson
24 days ago

Question: Will re-primitivizing re universal? Or will there be pockets that avoid it? If so, where please.

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Jim Smith
24 days ago

My personal opinion, hardly original, is that there will be a system breakdown, another Dark Age. There are just too many intractable trends. Probably the foremost is runaway population growth. Somewhere that’s gotta slow or stop. Given human nature, it’s a safe bet that nothing will be done to halt the headlong rush to catastrophe. The gods will do to man what he would not do for himself: Traditionally these are war, famine, pestilence. Of course, our advanced economies, technology and everything else would implode in short order. To (not) answer your question: no certain answers are possible. I would… Read more »

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Abelard Lindsay
Abelard Lindsay
Reply to  Jim Smith
24 days ago

There will be an “islands of competence” strategy for riding this crap out. Blogger “Al Fin” (alfinnextlevel) talks about this as well as competence in general. He does not seem popular among the alt-right. however, for inexplicable reasons. I would characterize him as a “Heinleinian” conservative/

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Jim Smith
24 days ago

Where you make it Brother it’s up to us to be building something to survive what’s coming…

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Jim Smith
24 days ago

Pockets are likely.

Find one.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  SamlAdams
24 days ago

Soon? They already blame “THE VIRUS” on bad air. Curse their terrified little souls.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
24 days ago

I am not quite sure when it will happen, but how long can the charade go on for before someone has to point out that joggers are just not that good at maintaining civilizations built by YT.

About the only jogger country I am aware of that does well is Barbados. And when I say well, I set the bar low – the crime rate appears to be minimal. Apparently, Botswana is also a contender… but my goodness, the bar is low.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  OrangeFrog
24 days ago

Outbreaks of previously eradicated diseases, poor sanitation and bad hygiene in jogger/jogger adjacent areas of formerly advanced Western nations make that point all the time.

It is routinely ignored.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  OrangeFrog
24 days ago

Not long given the rate ruling class and their tools are destroying the justice system and turning it against whites and turning BLM Antifa into organized terror groups backed by the police and FBI BTW the FBI and DHS have listed “white supremacists” as the major threat that the country faces. That means guys like Z and anyone else who doesn’t take a knee and criticizes the state. The Left is clearly preparing for war against us and soon Covid-19 was just the first step. Getting people used to a police state and getting rid of free speech and open… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Rwc1963
24 days ago

Sometimes I think “paranoid talk” but then I consider what Antifa/BLM have already done this year alone: billions of dollars damage, injuries, deaths, other crime. And those groups aren’t “terrorist organizations???” I’ve seen the video of the LA driver who escaped not one but two groups of “protesters” , amazingly not getting injured, only to end up being cuffed by LA’s finest. And now the Feds are calling the white supremacists “terrorists?” Yes, we are in clown world.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  OrangeFrog
24 days ago

Botswana does well because they are a tiny country sitting on a massive natural diamond mine and, to their credit, they negotiated an excellent royalty rate with the diamond miners. Once the diamonds are depleted Botswana will sink into poverty.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  OrangeFrog
24 days ago

It will happen and probably when we least expect it

Something has got to give

c matt
c matt
Reply to  OrangeFrog
22 days ago

There was one called Katanga that broke away from the Republic of Congo back in the ’60s. Former colony of Belgium. Congo decided to go communist, Katanga wanted none of that so broke away. Was relatively functional, but Congo and the UN destroyed them because could not have an example of non-communist society showing up the commies.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
24 days ago

These are people deeply committed to a primitive animistic religion.

Are they ever. This is a very important point, which I try to drum into anyone who will listen. And of course, when is one facing off against such a side, they need to remember to fight fire with fire.

CAPT S
CAPT S
24 days ago

“The salient issue here is the insane people highlighted are doctors.”

Great essay, and that’s the thought that immediately struck me – these are the experts, the high-priests of The Endarkenment™. To us their bios read like satire; self-worshiping fools parading as intellectuals. I know there are phenomenally talented medical docs, but their profession has been hijacked (like a multitude of others, e.g. academia.)

The Bible states, “A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.” The new religionists love to denigrate Christianity because its God has a supremely accurate view of man.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
24 days ago

The false light of Lucifer.

Kentucky Headhunter
Kentucky Headhunter
24 days ago

The number one lesson I’ve learned after 25 years in healthcare is, “Don’t get sick.” Eat a healthy diet. Get plenty of exercise and sleep. Minimize stress and anxiety as much as possible. Staying of social media is good for the last one.

Number two lesson: Female providers suck. At everything. In every specialty. Yes, there are lots of lousy male providers, but with a female you get a guarantee of incompetence.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
24 days ago

Yep. Do everything you can to AVOID the doctor

Also how I live my life

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
24 days ago

Painting with a rather broad brush there, aren’t we?

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
24 days ago

Upvote X 1000.

Ray-dell
Ray-dell
Member
Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
23 days ago

if not incompetence, a miserable household. No woman respects a man she supports.

Cis Scum
Member
24 days ago

“These are people deeply committed to a primitive animistic religion. “ The Religion of Negrolatry is not an animistic religion but rather a degenerate form of Christianity, a heresy basically. Negrolators are atheists raised in a Christian cultural context who refuse to believe in invisible beings. They replace the spiritual elements of Christianity for material ones but retain the original structure: Original sin = racism. Crucifixion = slavery. Grace = diversity. Penance = affirmative action. Salvation = melting pot. Absolution = reparations. Heresy = white positivity. Apostasy = race realism. The devil = whiteness. Evil = nazi. Satanic influence =… Read more »

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Cis Scum
24 days ago

Agreed and upvoted. Many ideologies can be compared to religion. What you fail to mention that all these have in common is Dogma, the assertion often with threats of varying types of punishment for those who resist, that the faith’s tenets are truths not to be questioned. Enter science. Nobody outside of science likes it, and now some within as well, because science has this nasty habit of putting claims to the test. Pity the poor researcher who wants to be on board with the latest Right Thinking, but all his experimental data says the opposite of what he urgently… Read more »

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Ray-dell
Ray-dell
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
23 days ago

I like science fine. But the unseen world is more real than this world, because this world will disappear. Heaven and Hell will never disappear. This world is real, the things in it obey laws, we can discover some of those laws, but this world is literally built on nothing. We are, in a way, nothing. We are only something because God keeps us in existence. Materialism is not our friend! Can you do a test for justice? How long is mercy? Many in the dissident right are bamboozled by materialistic science. They ignore philosophy. Catholicism invented inquiry and critical… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Ray-dell
22 days ago

I don’t know that Catholicism “invented” it – the ancient Greeks and Romans seemed to have a fair amount of inquiry and critical thought.

Ray-dell
Ray-dell
Member
Reply to  Cis Scum
23 days ago

human resource dept. haha, maybe thats why scott Adams has so much to say….

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Reply to  Cis Scum
23 days ago

“Negrolators” is inspired! Ashamed I didn’t think of it myself.

Bruno the Arrogant
Bruno the Arrogant
24 days ago

This isn’t just happening in medicine, it’s infected all the scientific disciplines. From the top down. These days I take any pronouncements from the scientific community with a huge grain of salt.

Mr-White
Mr-White
Reply to  Bruno the Arrogant
23 days ago

Poor Lysenko, all he said was they had developed a better strain of wheat.

Eric
Eric
24 days ago

Another great article. I love how you characterize Christianity in your conclusion, especially as contrasted with the new world order religion of negro worship and anti-racism.

Bruce Charlton
Bruce Charlton
24 days ago

It doesn’t affect the substance of your argument – but if by ‘animism’ you mean the ‘religion’ of the presumably most ancient type of nomadic hunter gatherers, you are mistaken about its basic nature:

https://www.hedweb.com/bgcharlton/animism.html

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
24 days ago

Highly educated whites were always known for buying into this shit thinking. This is why Silicon Valley and other upscale watering holes are loaded with high end cults that prey on the professional class. I know this first hand when I was part of that scene in the 90’s. You could get these whites to believe almost any line of shit if you packaged it right. This is why Marxism was always such a draw among our educated class going as far back as the Russian revolution. More recently please take a look at the McMartin Pre-school Satanic- child abuse… Read more »

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Rwc1963
24 days ago

COVID is the McMartin Preschool case at a national level

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  MemeWarVet
24 days ago

Yes, but I don’t remember McMartin case detractors being censored by the media as we now have as standard practice wrt Covid-19.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  CompscI
24 days ago

I guess the only “McMartin detractors,” at least in the early going, were the McMartins themselves.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think the media gave them a fair shake, at least not until their lives were destroyed first.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  MemeWarVet
24 days ago

Dorothy Rabinowitz of the Wall Street Journal wrote tirelessly upon this case. The WSJ gave her carte blanc to write and follow the case for literally years. I can’t speak for other major publications, I only read the Journal at that time. I believe that was one of the areas significant in her Pulitzer Prize award.

Lived Experience
Lived Experience
24 days ago

You know a fun game to play? Invite a White/Jewish leftist and a black person out to lunch. Over lunch, ask them if race is real. The White/Jewish leftist will insist it’s a social construct while the black person will insist it’s real and that it matters very much. Sit back and watch the sparks fly. Fan the flames by insisting that you will side with the black person in accepting that race is real, because otherwise you would be dehumanizing them and denying their lived experience. Watch the White/Jewish leftist shrivel. “Race is just a social construct” is a… Read more »

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Andy
Andy
Reply to  Lived Experience
24 days ago

Also make sure to bring a little extra cash to leave behind as a tip for the black guy’s lunch, since he won’t tip himself.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Lived Experience
24 days ago

I do that kind of thing all the time. It’s always good for a laugh

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
24 days ago

While our enemies see their religion as fighting against what they think is evil, we, on virtually every topic, see it as a battle against lies and nature. There has to be a name we can call ourselves instead of “dissident right” that includes our adherence to the truth.

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JR Wirth
JR Wirth
24 days ago

From what I’m reading its a Vitamin D deficiency which directly affects this virus. Black people don’t make much Vitamin D because Africa is half a mile from the sun. Compare this to Europe with its cloudiness and short winter days. Black people in Africa are doing fine with this.

Quarter Nickel
Quarter Nickel
Reply to  JR Wirth
24 days ago

Obesity also plays a role, but noticing that (despite all the objective evidence) is racist.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Quarter Nickel
24 days ago

Fuerle also says (It’s a really comprehensive book!) of the genetics of Afro-Americans. They are 20-25% non-African (primarily European) alleles (genes). This, Fuerle hypothesizes, makes them a bit worse off genetically compared to “pure” African genes, among other problems increased suseptibility to varous diseases.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  JR Wirth
24 days ago

Yes. All the hardest hit places were in northern latitudes where most adults tend to have low serum levels of vitamin D. So if you’re not eating a lot of egg yolks and oily fish you should probably supplement vit D. (Scandinavian countries have vit D supplementation/food fortification policies and lower levels of deficiency than sunny Spain. Go figure.)

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  JR Wirth
24 days ago

It also most direly affects the aged and obese . . . populations which are both in short supply in Africa.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  JR Wirth
24 days ago

Also, some articles say that the malaria drug Cloroquine (?) is widely used in those countries for default use, and it has been explored for its anti-COVID uses too.

Ryan
Ryan
Reply to  JR Wirth
22 days ago

And it’s one of the few places when no, really, we’re not saying people of this and that race have this problem. The chemistry by which the body produces Vitamin D is catalyzed by UV radiation which is absorbed by melanin.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
24 days ago

Overall, a good essay as usual. We here in the DR delight in revealing the abundant flaws in the logic of our opponents, as Z does masterfully here with the cited Doctors/Researchers. It’s actually humorous, in a painful way to watch how the Egalitarian community uses pretzel logic, creating tortured arguments acceptable to the “woke-o-meter”, that could be demolished by a high-schooler (at least, one from a private school.) Let’s see: race doesn’t exist, but it’s ok for some biological variation, as long as you don’t call it “race,” I guess. Science tells us there are millions of species of… Read more »

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Ray-dell
Ray-dell
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
23 days ago

Friend, evolution is not “settled science” It doesn’t just conflict with religious dogma, it conflicts with common sense: order can’t come accidentally, something (a wing, or an eye or life) can’t come accidentally from nothing, there is no evidence for evolution)

I think it should be illegal to teach evolution, and Mormonism

Presbyter
Presbyter
24 days ago

I suppose then that Sickle Cell Anemia is an imaginary racist delusion.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Presbyter
24 days ago

You clearly are a racist for even acknowledging the existence of SCA. It was obviously a bio-weapon, if it exists at all. Couldn’t possibly have anything to do with hemoglobin, which is itself a white construct, used to explain the non-existent disease.

Moss
Member
Reply to  Outdoorspro
24 days ago

Who decided blood cells where white, anyway? Racist!

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Moss
24 days ago

We demand more black blood cells be hired! 🙂

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Presbyter
24 days ago

Sickle cell patients are particulary vulnerable to complications if they get blood transfusions from out-group donors. https://tinyurl.com/yyba739v Sadly for them blood donors are mostly caucasian.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  RoBG
24 days ago

The odds are high that those that give the least use it the most especially since they are usually the ones in the ER with the gunshot, stabbing, and bleed outs…Just another one of the taxes we payout for them to even want to kill us more…Why again do we put up with this shit Oh that’s right we don’t have the gumption to band together and put a stop to it…

Moss
Member
Reply to  Lineman
24 days ago

Related, I lost my brother to Leukemia. During his 2 year battle, I gave a ton of platelets. Typically at the hospital’s blood bank. One phlebotomist, a young straight white guy (I know, unicorn), gave me the whole economic picture of the Red Cross’ economic model regarding donated blood and other components. As Lineman pointed out, another White Tax we pay by having our beneficence used against us.I never donated to Red Cross again, only to the local hospital if possible. Even there, however, Red Cross makes money through their processing often times. Anyone shed light on this in today’s… Read more »

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Moss
24 days ago

While Red Cross still does some things well, I don’t donate through them. I was really glad when our local blood banks went with someone else. Yes, there are alternatives.

Mr-White
Mr-White
Reply to  Lineman
24 days ago

as you know, banding together must be shouted down. It was.

So now we hang separately as we refused to hang together.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  RoBG
24 days ago

Yep, every day I get to solve these problems. The more blood you get, the more antibodies you develop. Sickle cell patients tend to get a lot of blood, so it will get increasingly more difficult to find compatible donors. Same with some transfusion-dependent cancer patients and thalassemia patients. Also, blacks have evolved two quite unique attributes, both thanks to malaria. First, they have hemoglobin S, which is what causes SCD, because it gives immunity to malaria. Second, they tend to lack the Duffy blood group antigens, because malaria likes Duffy blood. Now, most Caucasians have either Duffy A, Duffy… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
24 days ago

Just as in America, Europeans are “forbidden to notice anything about people” and have been for about a decade. Things really went up a notch around 2015 when the people we are not supposed to notice started hiking across Hungary from the Middle East or appeared on the shores of Italy and Greece, and now the UK, in little inflatable boats, So we did as we were told and didn’t notice them. There was one exception. A little boy who drowned and washed up dead on shore. That person everyone had to notice. Then over New Years, they started to… Read more »

Irishfarmer
Irishfarmer
24 days ago

This was a great post. The last paragraph was killer.

Delusions of Grandeur
Delusions of Grandeur
Reply to  Irishfarmer
24 days ago

Agreed, it was a great quoteworthy summary. The crazy stuff these people believe makes your head spin, and it makes QAnon look tame in comparison. It’s also fun watching these people engage in such desperate cultural appropriation. They have so few accomplishments they have no choice but to try and retcon white accomplishments. Knights? We wuz the real knights! Moon landing? We did that! Beethoven? He was black! Vikings? We wuz the real Vikings! The only time they get smacked down is when they try to claim they are the real Jews. Interesting… Someone once commented that the left went… Read more »

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Ray-dell
Ray-dell
Member
Reply to  Delusions of Grandeur
23 days ago

Beethoven. Was black??

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Delusions of Grandeur
22 days ago

Viking is just the word for raping and pillaging. So maybe they have a point with that one.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
24 days ago

I propose that we stop any and all research into Sickle Cell Disease. After all, it really only affect blacks, but any disease that only affects blacks must be racist and therefore, cannot be acknowledged as real. QED.

Maus
Maus
24 days ago

In a sane world, these so-called doctors wouldn’t have been admitted to medical school, let alone licensed to practice medicine. But to have acted according to such sanity would be racist. And to notice the insanity now is racist. You literally cannot escape your destiny because rationality itself is supremacist white privilege. Google’s homepage today offers a link to “Explore America’s history of racial injustice.” Chronic negro fatigue is so off-the-charts that only an idiot would click on that link. I simply cannot understand how the concerns of <15% of a nation’s population predominate the national consciouness. Apartheid now!

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Maus
24 days ago

They need bodies

Wait if the USA ends up ever getting “single payer”. To meet demand, they will be giving medical licenses away along with drivers licenses

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Maus
24 days ago

It’s not 15% of the population. It’s 15% (Black), and 30% (Good-Whites), and hell perhaps several percent more via other minorities.

Falcone
Falcone
24 days ago

It can’t be as bad as this in Europe, can it?

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Falcone
24 days ago
fish sticks
fish sticks
Reply to  RoBG
24 days ago

Probably not.
Just as the Left always projects so does the Yankee civnat.
“a:Europe is a hellhole becuase of this example!
b:Okay, that is bad but are you aware that there are many more examples in the US?
a: Only anti-Americans would use a few trivial examples to condemn 350 million patriots.”

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Exile
Exile
24 days ago

Derb’s latest at Unz talks about how the Woke Revo is breaking into the fortresses of the hard sciences now. Medicine has always been the most ‘human facing” of the hard(er) sciences by its nature so the rot there is the most advanced (I’ll lump physicians & shrinks in for this purpose). No matter what we thought of Covid before the Groyd Riots it became clear that this was not the Black Death when The Black’s Death was considered more of health emergency than Wu Flu, Grand Dowager of Pestilence. Although the flagellant faithful Wokies would go Nazi-hunting even if… Read more »

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Exile
24 days ago

I always said that people like Sailer are deluding themselves if they think even the biological sciences won’t — or couldn’t — be taken over by SJWs and nignogs.

There was always this idea that science and physical reality would be the bulwark against nonsensical and fanciful ideas, that departments of sciences were thus protected and inoculated from the poisons being stirred on the other side of the campus

Nope

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Falcone
24 days ago

I’ve not read Sailer about this, but you are completely right about the hard(er) sciences being at risk. Just google “Lysenko” and see what Soviet ideology did to their genetic sciences. It probably set them back two generations at least. And broadly speaking, it was for the same reason as today’s Woke: denying biological realities.
Of course science (personnel) can be corrupted by ludicrous revolutionary ideas, but Reality is not going to bend so easily to Ideology. As someone (Harry Browne, I think) said: reality always triumphs over politics.

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Mrs. Jellyby
Mrs. Jellyby
Reply to  Exile
24 days ago

If epidemiologists truly believe “racism” and “gun violence” are public health crises, then the return of leeches and bloodletting isn’t far off… Z Man is quite right that a new dark age is returning to the west. The only silver lining is that the west’s advancements acted as subsidies to prop up shitholes like Africa and the middle east, so as the west declines these places will depopulate too. In the same way the Congolese used Belgian roads until they fell apart, then reverted back to bushwhacking trails, so too will the west’s new dark age eventually result in the… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Mrs. Jellyby
24 days ago

they only save the purposeful delusions for the West

Doctors, scientists and so forth working in Africa are allowed to be honest and do whatever it takes to make things work

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Mrs. Jellyby
24 days ago

The fear here is that Africa falls back to 200M via death *and* 1B refugees to the (formerly) 1st world.

Exile
Exile
Reply to  Mrs. Jellyby
24 days ago

If we don’t learn how to harden our hearts and let nature resume culling the less altruistic populations with disease, hunger, etc.. all we’re going to earn for our virtue is a Malthusean Collapse – a planet so thick with anarchic Blacks, despotic Squats & Jeets, dog-eat-dog Han etc… that Whites and all hope of transcending this planet will die out as these tribes kill each other for the last shekel piles the Jews are hiding under.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Exile
24 days ago

I already posted my apocalypse scenario far above 🙂 Agree with you mostly. I would add that, as demography seems to make inevitable, the much more populous but “stupider” world will only hasten its collapse into barbarism. I’ll let you look up the details, but I know no reason why a human collapse would be much different from the rats overpopulating a confined space results.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Mrs. Jellyby
24 days ago

If the Continents population reverts to 200 million it will be because the other 800 million have moved to the West.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Bilejones
24 days ago

You overlook the option of a 90% reduction in the Earth’s population imposed by force majeure. No migrations required.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Exile
24 days ago

Is this what “winning” looks like?

Abelard Lindsay
Abelard Lindsay
24 days ago

I have a fried how has been saying that the entire medical establishment has been FUBAR for years. I am not surpised by any of this. It simply re-affirms my commitment to DIY medicine when it comes to future medical problems, including aging.

Christopher Chantrill
Christopher Chantrill
24 days ago

Like I say, the left is a Great Reaction, a lurch to the primitive, with socialism as a return to slavery, etc.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
24 days ago

The problem is in democracy itself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd6b_8OlwXU&feature=youtu.be
In the words of Nirvana, Here we are now entertain us.
I hope people watch this ad, years after the currency crisis. A vile, juvenile culture that cares nothing for the real issues that are eating the country alive. I’m disgusted.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  JR Wirth
24 days ago

Things will improve when 14 year olds can vote 😉

Coin Operator
Coin Operator
Reply to  Falcone
24 days ago

Democrats, 2020: I can drive a car at 16, but I can’t vote until I’m 18. How is that fair?

Democrats, 2030: I can have sex with a man at 12, but I can’t vote until I’m 14. How is that fair?

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Coin Operator
24 days ago

I love it !!!

LOL

MikeCLT
MikeCLT
24 days ago

The Chinese will burst this equality delusion in 15-20 years. Not sure how the libs in the US will react.

Warmash
Warmash
Reply to  MikeCLT
24 days ago

I believe the French went on the warpath after their revolution. I could easily see the left in this country doing the same, especially now that they’ve dropped all pretenses of being the anti-war party. Why would they oppose war if they can rationalize it on under social justice grounds and soothe their conscience with the knowledge that most of those killed and injured are 1) white male Trump voters 2) lower class minorities they secretly fear and go out of their way to avoid in their private lives? In the 2020s and 2030s, Chinese companies will crush their American… Read more »

Mr-White
Mr-White
Reply to  Warmash
24 days ago

The Left may, may already be at peak warmaking ability now. Actual violence. As we can see they scraped the bottom dregs early. If they make actual war or revolution as opposed to paid riots to manipulate the populace and system – they may at last make a real mistake. They can’t count on the military, the police or the veterans in sufficient numbers to win, never mind armed citizens. A few paid off ex-generals doesn’t cut it. All things considered as there is no real resistance so far to their evil agenda – sorry, we should hope and pray… Read more »

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Warmash
24 days ago

France put its entire population under arms (the Levee en Masse) which is how they avoided being crushed in the revolutionary wars.

That army was full of French males (including a particular Corsican). The human capital of the post-American military won’t be so high.

Johnny
24 days ago

A tweet here Zman and Ramzpauls response.

Alex Thompson@AlxThompNEW: Why are right-wing FB pages so popular?A Facebook exec argues the msg is just more visceral: “Right wing populism is always more engaging…Nation, protection, the other, anger, fear. That was there in the 30s. That’s not invented by social media”
Ramzpauls response:
No, it is popular because most Americans don’t think we should be forced to pretend that a man wearing a sundress is a woman and that throwing Molotov cocktails and murdering people is a “mostly peaceful protest.

Warmash
Warmash
Reply to  Johnny
24 days ago

Deluded ivory tower egghead is at a loss to understand why people who don’t have stock options don’t like seeing their homes destroyed, themselves fired for wrong think, and their kids racially discriminated against in college admissions and in the workplace — all while being forced to endure endless racist pogroms against their heritage. It’s a mystery!

Mr-White
Mr-White
Reply to  Johnny
24 days ago

War is mostly peaceful. Many days of boredom, a few minutes of terror.

Dr ExCathedra
Dr ExCathedra
24 days ago

“Racism” is the witchcraft of our time. Both are malevolent forces which explain all sorts of unhappy outcomes; everyone believes in them, fervently, and will kill for them, but no one has ever see them.
Homo sapiens is an irrational species. Aristotle was an optimist.

Wkathman
Wkathman
24 days ago

Anti-racists inhabit what Carl Sagan called “the demon-haunted world.”

Higgs Boson
24 days ago

The maternal mortality rate among black women is at near third-world levels, but noticing is racist, so they are left to die, often leaving the infant and her other children parentless. The useful idiots with useless doctorate degrees set the stage for ethnic bioweapons that will not be noticed.

Higgs Boson
24 days ago

Unthaw those viruses, they said. Let’s take this lab experiment to the field, they said. Everyone hates the Iranians and Iraqis , they said. Let’s quadruple down on the mullahs, they said. No one will notice, they said.

Mark Stova
Mark Stova
24 days ago

A great essay Zman.

I have been watching this decent into darkness for almost 7 decades. It has been accelerating the whole time.

I think you described it very well today. Thanks for that.

Brace For Impact 2020
Brace For Impact 2020
24 days ago

“Every object, entity, image, document, historical “fact,” person, thought, emotion, reaction, narrative, opinion, everything tangible or intangible, has a barely concealed political subtext in a Totalitarian society.”
 -Charles Hugh Smith

ronehjr
ronehjr
24 days ago

The dark age of the west was never as dark as what is coming, because the west was never as full of non-westerners as it is now.

Epaminondas
Member
24 days ago

“…the new dark age of the West.”

This is no longer the West. When you dilute the white population to the extent that the civilization can no longer be recognized, you have no right to refer to yourself as “Western”.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Epaminondas
24 days ago

i think people use western for lack of a better term

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  sentry
23 days ago

It’s a way station on the road to The Woken World.

Mr-White
Mr-White
Reply to  Epaminondas
24 days ago

Iss dah Platinum Age 👨🏿‍🦱

Mr-White
Mr-White
24 days ago

Will $500 billion from Trump for the jogger Platinum plan get them to shut up?

No. But it will get White Wayhman to sneak in a vote for Trump all alone in the booth.

Mr-White
Mr-White
Reply to  Mr-White
24 days ago

Maybe we could get the bronze or silver plan? The last time someone gave us a lot of money we went to the moon. With say $100B – call it the Bronze Plan – I bet we could get a man on Mars.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Mr-White
23 days ago

But would he be black?

greyenlightenment
Reply to  Mr-White
24 days ago

good another excuse to #stayhome2020

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Mr-White
Mr-White
24 days ago
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