Us And Them

A striking feature of American liberal democracy is the great gap between the reality of the political class and the people. The Cloud People are not just floating above the Dirt People, living different lives, like aristocrats of old. They no longer have a clear vision of the Dirt People below them. Instead, they conceive of the people over whom they rule based on inputs from the managerial class. To the political class, the general public is an abstraction, not a physical reality.

One example of this is in how the political class understands hierarchy. Every Washington politician and appointee lives in a world where hierarchy is well understood and respected. The appointed class have an array of titles that indicate their position in the hierarchy. Elected officials, of course, have their office and their committee assignments, along with their seniority. This is a world every one of them inherited when they entered politics. It is how it has always been.

In this world, a senator tells his staff to do something and he just assumes they will do it, assuming it can be done. If it cannot be done, then he is going to have them find out why it cannot be done and report back to him. An appointee works the same way within the bureaucracy. They have a staff, usually of appointees, and that staff carries out the orders of the director or secretary. Even though nothing of public good is done in Washington, the petty tasks are carried out with precision.

In this regard, the political class is a petty aristocracy. Senator Lindsey Graham, for example, commands absolute loyalty from his staff. Not only does his staff do what they are told, they faithfully keep his secrets. He has been in the Imperial Capital for a quarter century, without a hint of scandal, despite the obvious. Congress operates a private slush fund to settle sexual harassment claims. Over 260 claims have been paid, without a word about the details. That’s loyalty.

Scan the biographies of the political class and the thing you will be hard pressed to find is anything resembling real world experience. Few have ever worked in the dreaded private sector. Those that have, worked in the law or maybe finance. These careers were just alternative paths to the place they wanted to be all along. There are no sons of the soil in Washington. The exception is President Trump, which is why he is hated by the entire political class. He is not one of them.

If any of these people had spent time in the world of the Dirt People, they would know that the reality of the petty aristocracy is nothing like reality. In the dreaded private sector, a manager at any level must be conscious of his subordinates. If that manager is going to make his bosses happy, he has to keep his people happy. Otherwise, they will not do what he asks and they will undermine his authority. This is the reason every middle manager sounds like a psychotherapist.

In the military, every officer is trained to know this. There is a strict hierarchy and ethos that says you respect the rank, not the man. Humans are human, so that theory gives way to the reality that men follow men. A good officer is one who commands the respect of his men. Bad officers think they can just issue orders and they will be carried out, no matter how stupid or ridiculous. The officer who acts like a petty aristocrat can find himself with a live grenade in his bunk.

Everywhere in the dreaded private sector, hierarchy relies about a dynamic that is not all that different from a pirate ship. Everyone understands that someone has to be in charge and that there has to be order. The question as to who is in charge and who gives the orders, however, is not written in stone. You earn your position and you keep earning it in the execution of your duties. Unlike in Washington, failure has consequences and people get fired and demoted.

This great gap between the Cloud People and the Dirt People in the nature of human organization and hierarchy is the great source of friction. We see that with the response to the Covid virus. The petty tyrants in the lowest level of the petty aristocracy just assumed the rest of us would happily follow their orders. The striking feature of this pandemic is how the political class is resentful that the public has not celebrated them in song and story for their heroism during these times.

The ruling class sees no danger in their social engineering schemes, because everyone they know thinks they are great ideas. Spend time in the Imperial Capital and it is like visiting a foreign planet. They live in a world that is divorced from the reality of the human condition. It has evolved into something closer to a college campus, where good times or bad, it is always the best of times. It is why critic race theory sounds like a grand idea to them. All of their ideas are grand ideas.

For those old enough to remember, there is a Ceausescu’s last speech quality to what we hear from our political elites and their organs. The gap between us and them has reached such a point it is impossible for us to think of them as us. This reality is slowly creeping into the minds of the dirty people like the fog. The Cloud People, however, remain locked in their old mode of thought. Nancy Pelosi truly thinks she is a beloved and respected figure to the Dirt People.

In such situations, there is always a moment when the people suddenly realize that they are not alone in their thoughts about us and them. That is what happened during Ceausescu’s last speech. The people suddenly realized that everyone else had the same thoughts about their ruler. On that day, that reality was made clear to Ceausescu’s as he gave his speech. The next day he fled the capital and a few days later he was tried and executed.

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Tax Slave
Tax Slave
3 years ago

if a picture is worth a thousand words then this one is worth at least two thousand.
comment image

Last edited 3 years ago by Tax Slave
RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Tax Slave
3 years ago

When did it become impossible for people of goodwill to discuss demographic trends and their consequences rationally and without rancor? (I see that last year remittances to the third world hit record highs.)

StanP
StanP
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

1965…and you will never in a million years guess who was really behind the planned invasion of the United States.
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/05/29/ted-kennedy-did-not-pass-the-immigration-act-of-1965/

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tax Slave
3 years ago

So much for lucky latitudes and magic dirt.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
3 years ago

Oh boy, Z. I dunno if you missed or hit with this one.
There is no doubt the ruling class has lost touch with US. But… there are a million blogs, pundits, and normies within a stone’s throw of here that think our leadership – with the exception of Trump – is just grand. California thinks Nancy walks on water. Their cities are dumps and they’re proud of it. Seattle, Chicago, and other shitlib bastions are doing their level best to turn their cities into the same kind of dump!

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Upvoted.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Glenf, I know exactly what you mean. Unless you have met and spent time around this kind of person, you just don’t understand how deluded they are. How impervious to objective reality. They really aren’t fully human any longer; they are infected.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

It is an open question how many of them think the leadership is grand and how many have doubts about the leadership but think they are the only think stopping the wicked people on the other side. A fair number of people of the left most prone to violence would gladly turn their wrath on the average elected Democrat as well.

WCiv...---...
WCiv...---...
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Because of Trump’s debate comment, some entrepreneur started selling “Philadelphia is a Bad Place” T shirts. Homicides up 40% over last year, and they are proud of it.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  WCiv...---...
3 years ago

Homicides up 40% over last year, and they are proud of it.

Steve Sailer kind of poked at this idea with the idea that the homicide rate could serve as a substitute for sportsball – i.e. “our joggers are tougher than yours.”

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Yes, and James LaFond has been keeping running tabs on the different cities’ gladiator sacrifice numbers for years.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  WCiv...---...
3 years ago

I’dseen cops in the Inland Empire which is Red State California sporting Homicide, Suicide, Riverside T-Shorts

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  abprosper
3 years ago

The 909 isn’t red anymore; like all of SoCal it’s just Latin America

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

Sure its not Orange County 1980 but its still Red after a fashion only a Latin flavored Red.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Their cities are dumps and they’re proud of it.

I keep saying the liberal ideal for the US is an amalgam of Third World slums.

They keep proving me right.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

yeah, but they’ll drag whites down with them in the slums, making everyone equally miserable.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

It’s all just part of the plan my friend.

B123
B123
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

I mean, white communities will always be nicer than black and brown ones.

On this course, eventually we will just be Brazil, with a more diverse elite. It will be shitty for everyone but slightly less shitty for whites / light skinned mystery meats because of the genetics.

Of course things will go bad long before we hit that point, imo.

miforest
Member
Reply to  B123
3 years ago

at some point , the CCP will call the game and send their settlers in . this geography will be used by the strongest global player once we are neutered. iit is pretty close , look how little anger there is a the fact that they continued to allow international flights out of wuhan after they had locked down domestic travel from there.

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Yes, they seem to like to live amidst offal. Their self-perceived virtue endorphin boost must be greater than anything that might enter their brains via sight and smell.

Note, I did not include “thought”, only the senses of the eye and nostrils.

They want the entire country to live like they do.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Owlman
3 years ago

“If we import enough 3rd World savages, everybody will have a fancy apartment, great shoes, and drive a Subaru!”

Spirit if the bayonet
Spirit if the bayonet
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

I know plenty of this type. The blind rule follower, the plan truster. Let’s say the building is on fire, they are seated in a waiting room full of people and it starts to get smoky. The plan truster will sit there nervously waiting for the fire alarm to sound, or for someone to direct him to evacuate before getting out of his seat.

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Epaminondas
Member
3 years ago

There isn’t a person on this board who would not be giddy with excitement to see the Imperial Capital invaded by hordes of Dirt People and burned to the ground…with their bureaucrat toadies and aristocrat pols inside.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

hang them from trees and light posts all over dc

Polack
Polack
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

Eastern block revolutions had some distinct flavor to them in that they were smoke and mirror for the most part.
After high profile figures were disposed of, these movements were hijacked and owned by military and spooks, who were big part, if not the real enablers, of the old system.
In this place and time I’d wager that big tech will take their shot, and that is something to beware of.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

Wood-chippers.
At an average weight of 170 lbs, 10 people = 1 cubic yard (specific gravity about 1.)
Three twenty yard dumpsters = 600 people.
All the Congress, Cabinet and Supremes.
Even allowing for Nadlers.

Member
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

If the results were composted and used to grow crops this would indeed be the first time most of these people had done anything useful at all for anyone else.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

Did you watch the recent C-SPAN video of Nadler literally crapping his pants while standing during a Pelosi event and then shuffling off to the side, trying not to look down for stains, and leaving little to the imagination?

Under stress, Nadler could instantly get down to 170 lbs given he’s so full of crap. Oy.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

LOL

Nadler in a wood chipper

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Feet first.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

Sounds messy; I prefer France’s quick, clean, and efficient method

Ted Valis
Ted Valis
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

THEY don’t deserve it that easy for what they’ve done to us over the centuries.

Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

I’m more a fan of lining I-95 all along the East Coast leading north and south from DC with heads on pikes. One every 50′ on both sides of the road gives you 200 per mile. Hell even just a few congress critters and their bloated staffs gets you all the way to Baltimore…

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

upvote for creativity

Ted Valis
Ted Valis
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

Beautiful picture…..sort of what Rome did by crucifying seditionists and traitors along the Appian Way. Ah, may it be so!

Member
Reply to  Ted Valis
3 years ago

That’s what gave me the idea.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Why have their murder on your hands? Just force them to live with their pets. They’ll get sorted soon enough.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

a reminder to the next ruling class
This is what we’ve been missing. We’re still operating under our first true ruling class.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

As gratifying as that strategy would be, it is not the optimum solution. Much smarter to focus on a few “example cases” and then faux mourn their tragic accidental demise. Think like a lighting bolt. Sudden, unexpected, and natural.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Go Mongol on them, in other words.

Chief
Chief
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Just awaiting the “Go” signal.

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I dream of the Million Bulldozer March on Washington.

No_Romance
No_Romance
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Only thing burning to the ground is what Whites built. Families, Businesses, Cities, Nation, Civilization. There is nothing in the Lefts way but varieties of other Leftists. Why anyone thinks this revolution or whatever happens magically, without a shred of organization simply means a Romantic view of War. There have been zero spontaneous revolutions; none. Even the closest in France had the Duc of Orleans and his helpful agents. The American one took a generation, that was building on the militias built for the French and Indian Wars. The Bolsheviks had Ludendorff. Mao had the Russians, Japanese Arms, and the… Read more »

MyTwoCents
MyTwoCents
Reply to  No_Romance
3 years ago

Zman said: “Burn it to the ground, put the inhabitants to the sword and leave it as a reminder to the next ruling class.”
The author is certainly no fool, as his essays prove. Perhaps this was simply an historic metaphor for how such problems have been dealt with in the past.
However, the responses fantasizing about feeding people into wood chippers or putting heads on pikes sound more like the irresponsible, uncivilized drivel from the “Antifa” crowd.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

Along with any number of Karen’s, cucks and local petty tyrants to keep the fires stoked.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

It would do no good. The good news is political Karen is made, not born. To get rid of the modern Karen, you have to get rid of feminism. Sure, you might still have proto-Karens, but they will be enforcing good social standards and not clownworld. ‘Church ladies’ are a lot better than ‘progressive ladies.’

B123
B123
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Church Karens are organizing the roast beef dinners and scolding young girls for wearing slutty clothing.

A big improvement.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  B123
3 years ago

Yep. Women are the enforcers of social norms on both men and women, but especially young women and girls. The church lady is infinitely preferable to the progressive cat ladies.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

Anyone who thinks a repeat of 9/11 would not be met with wild domestic applause is too isolated from reality to live a meaningful life. Bin Laden just struck a generation too early. A sane society would start to dissolve such a collection of enemies who literally hate one another. This portends to make the old Yugoslavia’s breakup look like a child’s birthday party.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

I pray, I pray that when those hurricanes manages up the coast it takes out DC

God, I beg you

And it would be a nice touch if the Hurricane is named after a black woman.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

“Oprah”

H I
H I
3 years ago

Think of the press repeatedly lying and then acting like it never happened: Russia hoax, Jussie Smollett, Kavanaugh. If any of us behaved like this in the private sector we’d be fired. Yet they keep doing it with no consequence. In a month they’ll move on from the lockdown hoax, and memory-hole that one too.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  H I
3 years ago

Doubt it.

The Cloud People believe lockdowns are part of the new normal and World Economic Forum’s “Great Reset.”

The WEF has the videos right on their YouTube channel.

miforest
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

the lockdowns ARE part of the great reset.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  H I
3 years ago

There is very little free press. All the Networks are corporate owned and “report” accordingly.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
3 years ago

We shouldn’t forget that the Capitol has many acolytes in the Districts: the Corona hoax could not have gone on this long without the generous assistance of the Karens & Cucks.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

It’s nice in a way how the mask marks a certain type. You used to have to figure it out, now they advertise.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Alas, given the ubiquity of the Maskatards, NOT wearing a mask is what marks one out as a certain type. I.e. somebody with a triple-digit IQ and at least one testicle.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Ostei, caveat: if they’re wearing a mask and they don’t give me a dirty look, they aren’t one of THEM 🙂

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ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

Women don’t understand hierarchy the way men do. They think it’s the biggest and the strongest “alpha male” rises to the top and orders everyone around. Not exactly. The pope doesn’t get to be the pope by beating up all the other cardinals. Hierarchy is real, extremely efficient (business, military), and allows lines of authority to have weight in large organizations where personal ties with everyone involved are numerically impossible. But respect flows both ways – any martinet who relies solely on a title will fail. The Karens understand “the rules issued by authority”; they fail to understand they, individually,… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by ProZNoV
Member
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

The Karens understand “the rules issued by authority”; they fail to understand they, individually, are outside the hierarchy and no obedience or respect is owed to them, personally. I think this is why so many Karens (male or female) are such nasty and angry creatures. They do all this PC stuff like wearing their goofy little masks everywhere, even when driving or outside, and yet their bank account doesn’t get any bigger and they get no medals or celebrations in their honor. In fact, in the case of masks, it leads to them becoming even more of a non-person than… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

Their currency is virtue

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

There has been a ramp-up of the black Karens in my area. Usually store clerks that want to feel superior.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Those are called Keeshas. Please don’t support cultural appropriation.

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Lol, I like your transliteration, but I believe these hoes have been long known as Felicias

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

In Chicago they’re Latrina’s or Shanequa’s depending on whether you are a Cubs or Sox fan.

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

Durham, NC has a Satana (what a face!) for DA https://deberry4da.com/

humdeedee
humdeedee
Reply to  tonaludatus
3 years ago

Ha ha, I clicked on the link and thought maybe I was on a spoof site. Perhaps that Satan(a) should re-think that tagline.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  tonaludatus
3 years ago

Looking at the picture my first thought was “Was that born a female or did it” transition”? My 2nd thought, after reading the individual’s campaign slogan – “Citizens of Durham County deserve better” – was, “Damned skippy they do but you ain’t it.”

B123
B123
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Our stores had scowling African or Indian security guards in work boots guarding every entrance.

A couple months ago, they got rid of the guards and just use smiling store clerks to direct us now.

The dark people love having power over us, even if it’s small and insignificant. Don’t forget.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  B123
3 years ago

Yeah, the relish it a bit too much. Their accusations of oppression is just pure projection of their fantasies. I have no desire to even be around them let alone oppress them!

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  B123
3 years ago

Ever seen how blacks treat Mexicans behind the counter ?

“Do you not speak Eeengliss?”

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

The Corona hoaxsters assumed, correctly, the Karens ‘n cucks would comply.

jwm
jwm
3 years ago

“The petty tyrants in the lowest level of the petty aristocracy just assumed the rest of us would happily follow their orders.”

Judging by what I see around me the majority of the people are quite happily obedient to the petty tyrants in charge. No one has had to hire mask enforcement officers, or social distancing comisars. The people get their marching orders from the TV and smartphones. They bleat right along, and enforce the tyranny on one another.

JWM

whitney
Member
Reply to  jwm
3 years ago

I live in a blue City but a red state so we don’t have a mask mandate but I have witnessed people I know wearing a mask while walking through the park. They are literally less than 1% of the people doing it. I was absolutely shocked and cannot look at them the same way again. I actually already knew both of them were fools but now it’s even worse

Durendal
Durendal
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

I saw that they shut down a high school football game because someone in the crowd refused to wear a mask.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Here in Brooklyn NY, at least 95% of the people wear masks, even when driving alone in their cars, or walking alone inthe park. I’ve been maskless (even in the supermarkets) for the past 4 months, and occasionally get told to put one on by various store keepers. Last week a Mexican stock boy told me to put one on, and I just left my cart in the aisle and walked out. At the medical center, I’m required to put one on and get my temperautre checked at the entrance, but I usually take it off in the doctor’s office.… Read more »

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

edit for clarity:
..300 schools (25 PERCENT of the total)..

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

25%? A challege goal for DeBlaaahsio to double the score to 50 – or more

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/hillary-denies-she-traded-clemency-exchange-votes This has been an ongoing situation in NYC, and the surrounding Jewish communities. The link is to the influence peddling Killary did to steal her seat when she ran as the carpetbagger Senator ‘from New York’. The article states, “In two other nearby all-Hasidic villages – Kiryas Joel and Kaser – residents overwhelmingly voted against Clinton. Election results indicate Lazio picked up 3,480 votes in the two villages, while the then-first lady received only 152 votes.” So, doubtful is the ne’er do well Cuomo, and his even dumber Lurch sidekick, Wilhelm II, are going to drive the Kiryas Joel… Read more »

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  Owlman
3 years ago

I’m not observant, but i grew up surrounded by liberal jewish family and friends; all are anti Trump, and as far as I remember they didn’t like him even ten or twenty years ago,before he got into politics. There is a deep seated visceral hatred of him, and I’m not sure why.
I worked briefly for some Hasids last year, and they are very right-wing, pro-Trump, anti-democrat.

blasio is da Nazi-o.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

as a side note, the last election for mayor featured the Repub candidate Joe Lhota (former head of the subway system) ; Turnout was very light, less than half of the turnout back in the day when Guiliani ran against Dinkins. DeBlasio got 75% of the votes cast vs Lhota who got 25%.
(Lhota got 250k votes, Guliani had gotten over a million votes when he ran. )
Ho Hum, people stayed home.

Anna
Anna
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

Torah teaches: Every generation has leaders they deserve.

John Smith
John Smith
Reply to  Anna
3 years ago

That might have applied to a small, monolithic tribe 2500 years ago. America gets its “leaders” selected by a small, inbred clique of urban billionaires who don’t give a sh*t about the Torah or the goyim.

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

“There is a deep seated visceral hatred of him, and I’m not sure why.”

From my experience, agree.

Reform Jews I know, even ones that spent time as Unitarians, have a spitting, frothing Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Orthodox Jews I know, including one NYPD cop, Right, not left.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Owlman
3 years ago

There are any number of Orthodox rabbis posting YouTube videos as part of their teachings/ministry. Never saw one criticize Trump. Indeed, they proclaim him to be Israel’s and the Jew’s best friend. (Which of course is correct by any standard)

Makes me wonder just what the split is between them and the other flavors of Jewish faith. Must be the bend towards modernism and leftism.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Owlman
3 years ago

That’s what nobody sees, the split.

Their societies have been riven by fratricidal civil war since the beginning.

Last edited 3 years ago by Alzaebo
Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

When I worked corporate, the company head and a number of people were Jewish, all secular, and their hatred for the Orthodox was pretty intense.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

From the occasional news headlines, Australia’s enforcement makes most of USA look like an anarchist utopia.

Member
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

Yet another reason our tyrants will fight to keep the mask and shutdown fraud going. It becomes another tool to punish disobedient parts of their fiefdoms. At this point I think the only thing that will free the bluest parts of the country from this stuff is an executive order or some ruling from the Supreme Court.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

The other day I saw a girl playing tennis while wearing a Karen Kloth. People that stupid are fit only for slavery. Alas, that’s a pretty high percentage of “Americans.”

B123
B123
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Can confirm the 3rd worlders (“brown”) people are doing the bare minimum in public to keep the mask Karens off their back – and privately still meeting in large groups, eating from communal pots with their hands, and wiping their ass with their hands (ok maybe not the last one). I wish the same could be said for the goodwhites in my family, who are terrified of the virus and isolating themselves to the point of depression. The new recommendation in Toronto is to not celebrate Thanksgiving – whitey celebrations no longer permitted – and sadly many whiteys are following… Read more »

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Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

True. Traveled from a blue hellhole state out west to the South for vacation this summer. With the notable exception of New Mexico mask compliance dropped exponentially the further I traveled southeasternly vacation. By the time I reached the buckle of the Bible belt the only people I saw wearing them were people who should probably be wearing them (elderly and fragile, already on oxygen, morbidly obese, etc.)

IforgotMyPen
IforgotMyPen
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Same experience. The gov of NM is a walking example # 8,000 why women should not hold executive positions

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Quite true, and on the rez, they understandably have long memories of strange white diseases.

Raynard
Raynard
Member
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I don’t know, very few people rebel. They complain, but I assume it’s just to placate me. I was refused dental service last week. I got screamed out of a library. Thank Darwin for wegmans…

Christian Attorney in Ohio
3 years ago

Re: Ceausescu. The Romanian dictator was overthrown after people started flooding the streets and public squares. These protesters were mostly Christians who wanted godless Communism to end. Chuck Colson discusses this revolution in his book “Loving God”. Those of you who are Christ followers need to pray for Trump and the coming election. Pray that people wake up like they did in Romania and other Communist countries. Pray for a third great awakening. Don’t count on so called Christian leaders. Although there are a few courageous ones (e.g. Franklin Graham), most are sympathetic to woke politics and/or are anxious to… Read more »

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  Christian Attorney in Ohio
3 years ago

Good points on Christian leaders

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Christian Attorney in Ohio
3 years ago

By their fruit you shall know them. Was roped into attending a friend’s daughter’s birthday party for their first grandchild, very young. Lots of kids 3 or 4 yo. Not my thing, but while standing around noticed a couple of older children 10 yo or so, both boys, who were playing and leading the little ones in activities. They were dressed well, clean cut and very attentive to the youngsters. In short, the stood out and gave the parents in attendance respite from their own little ones. Unusual. Not knowing anyone except a couple of oldsters, I struck up a… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  Christian Attorney in Ohio
3 years ago

yep EWTN is having a daily rosary novena for the election and the country

roo_ster
Member
Reply to  Christian Attorney in Ohio
3 years ago

The covid-19 and blm panic has revealed many church leaders to really not be leaders at all

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Christian Attorney in Ohio
3 years ago

MacArthur out in the land of fruit and nuts of SoCal is my personal standard for courage

Christian Attorney in Ohio
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

Yes, he is one of the few big names in the Evangelical world to stand up to the madness.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Having spent time in my youth around the folks who inhabit the Imperial Capitol (at least, the young ones at the time), I can attest to their feelings (if any) about the Dirt People. The Hill staffers, media folk, NGO workers and think tankers almost universally fell into the three groups. Gentile Cloud Dwellers This group typically grew up on the East Coast or LA/San Francisco, went to either prep schools or very high level public schools (think Langley or McLean in the DC area), had very bright parents, belonged to country clubs, etc. You know the type. These people… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

There was a very clear dislike for White Dirt People. For the usual suspects, it seems only natural. These individuals seem to have been the whipping boys throughout history – particularly in Europe. It is difficult to find one European country where at some point the native peoples have not had to face that well known question. No wonder they hate us, and it has always been obvious to me that this is so. That collective memory goes a long way back and is reinforced at all times in literature, film, even in personal gatherings. I cannot remember the time… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Regardless of how much of it is true, that side story of WWII has become a THE event for the tribe. It dominates them and influences their thinking on everything. They’ve been sucked in by the propaganda as much as the rest of us.

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

I do think a small percentage of particularly naive and weak Jews probably are so self indulgent that they allow a vulnerability to overtake them when conceptualizing that event but I think at least half of them willfully employ it as a deliberate rhetorical warfare/ 4d chess move to take advantage of white people’s genetic empathy and obsession’s with truth and honesty. Blacks do virtually the same thing RE: Their past, or simply by playing innocent/out and out lying after they’ve done something bad, but in their case, only conservatives and racists aren’t fooled.

Raynard
Raynard
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

I don’t know, EMJ gets some stuff wrong, like “there is no such thing as race” but if little hats were going to undermine Christian society through heresy (I know, I know, you may not beleive in that), usury, sexual deviance, consorting with enemies, etc, then they kinda deserved what they got.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

I tended to run into the third group a bit more during my time in the Imperial Capital. They’re like mulattos, in that they’re often the angriest of the bunch. They hate hate the fact that when networking they have to overcompensate by disparaging their place of birth and their kith and kin. They always have something to prove.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Ha, you’re right. They did have that anger that you see in mulattos. They were also like mulattos in the sense that they didn’t really belong in any group. The Gentile Cloud types and Jews had a social bond from their similar backgrounds that would be hard to penetrate if someone was wont to try. It wasn’t so much snobbery just those millions of tiny ties and experiences that make you comfortable with someone. The traitors didn’t have that background, nor did I. I didn’t care; in fact, I was quickly growing to despise these people. But the traitors wanted… Read more »

Sandmich
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

their interactions with the plebs were no more substantial than their interaction with an ATM

Well put.
How’s that go? ‘If there is nothing wrong with where they came from then there is nothing special about them’, i.e., their dirt origins must be abhorrent in order for them to prove that they’ve “grown past” it.

B123
B123
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

And don’t forget Brahmins, the new players in town.

My guess is that the Jewish power is intertwined with the white power… as we decline they too will decline.

Half-Jews are still arrogant and self-righteous and full of chutzpah… but not as much. They pick up many of the Anglos undesirable traits like depression too.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  B123
3 years ago

Much of what we see now is the Tribe losing its grip on American power. This election, even if they win, is the White Left’s last hoorah, and no matter what they or we think, Jews are seen as White and thus hated by the Newer Left.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Jews are riding a tiger of their own creation. They will try to do to POC coalition what they did with Whites, i.e. pretend to be one of them.

That might have worked somewhat with Hispanics, but it won’t work with Indians.

But it’ll never work as well as it did with Whites. Jews’ fate is tied to gentile Whites. Forgetting that was their big mistake.

Sandmich
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

I’d say more so. Most of the time when TurbanTina or AOC complain about “whites” it seems like cover for who they’re actually complaining about.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  B123
3 years ago

Weren’t any Brahmins (or not enough to notice) at the time. But they’ve come on strong. They’re all over the DC area. I’ve mentioned this before many times. Jews were stupid to allow Indians and Chinese into the country. Indians act a lot like Jews, but there are a lot more of them. Granted, pound for pound, Jews, when they give the effort, can out-Jew a Brahmin, but Jews have gotten a bit soft. They’ve been playing against the Washington Generals for too long. Also, Indians don’t have to be better than Jews to beat them. They just need some… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Easier for Indians to pass as minority (for the moment). Harder for Jews. Hence, harder for Jews to get a pass on the nepotism. Once the Indians infiltrate the admissions bureaucracy of top tier academia, it’s game over.

Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

There’s a fourth group I think too – The Exiled Aristocrats. I see a lot of them in Portland (OR). These are people who grew up in the DC/NY/LA/SF elite culture but ended up in the provinces for some reason. I think a lot of the reason they diffuse out of the metropoles is simply that there are now too many of them and even all the NGOs and useless government and media jobs in DC still couldn’t employ them all, at least not in the types of positions that matched their gigantic egos. There’s also the chance that a… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

Jim Goad had a 2-hour video chat on Counter Currents the other day. Highly recommend watching it. He discusses how and why Takimag went to the dogs, confirming my suspicions

More to the point are his experiences in Portland and its leftist anti-racist history. Seems what is happening there today has been decades in the making

Member
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Oh yeah, The PNW actually still has long had a reputation for old-timey Southron style racism and having “sundown towns”. Of course, this attracted Yankee carpetbagger do-goodniks from back East to enlighten the savage mountain folk about equality, I-have-a-dream, and all that. The hippies showed up in Portland around 1970 and account for the area’s enviro-fascism and then in the early 2000s the city’s lefty reputation and (at the time) low rents attracted a lot of the ironic facial hair and lumberjack shirt crowd. At about the same time homeless people and drug addicts drifted in to take advantage of… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

Thank you for the great summary

My wife’s family is from Oregon but south of Portland in Williamatte Valley I guess it’s called (scattered from Cottage Grove in south up to Salem area and east over mountains to Bend). And she wants to move there (we live in So Cal).

The more I hear about Oregon the more I resist calls to move there.

Member
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Totally NOT worth the effort. One problem Oregon has that even most Blue states don’t is the Democrat supermajority. This means the D-rats get everything they want all the time. The rents and housing costs are now close to CA too. Our D-rat governor is an evil witch named Kate Brown who will basically keep the mask and SD rules going as long as she can. She recently narrowly survived a recall attempt but most of the state is cuckwhites who absolutely loves them some gyno-tyranny. Finally, the weather really is terrible. It’s about 8 months of overcast with this… Read more »

Lady G's Return
Lady G's Return
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

“Every damn one of them had a terrible high school experience and were out for vengeance.”

AOC has a guy like that on her staff. He grew up in a trailer park in Tennessee. Now, he’s out to screw his people over considering that’s he’s just moved up in the world. Shameful.

Member
3 years ago

Way back in the mid 90s as a freshly graduated youngster with a Poli Sci degree, I thought I wanted to work in politics so I spent a week doing interviews with people on the Hill and some lobbying firms. I recall vividly Senator Strom Thurmond getting out of his car, disheveled like he slept in his suit, with his necktie undone and barking at his (of course) colored driver “Where’s my tie?!”, and hearing his long suffering driver point out it was around his neck. At this time he was the Chairman of the Senate Armed Services committee and… Read more »

B123
B123
Reply to  Arthur Sido
3 years ago

Same. I was involved in campus political groups a few years ago. I learned that:

– conservatives have no principles, politics is just a fun game to them
– conservatives are losers
– homosexuals and grifters are highly over represented in conservative groups
– conservatives hate racism more than the left
– conservatives view themselves as the wise, old, intellectually superior man with a pipe

Without that blackpilling experience i might not be a dissident.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  B123
3 years ago

Same, except my experience involved working on campaigns

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  B123
3 years ago

Fruits are hugely overrepresented in the diplomatic corps which leans far left in every country.

I have to wonder if fruits are overrepresented in politics because people in the modern representative system benefit from focusing on the job over all else, especially distractions like raising a family in a stable marriage.

I’m sure it helps that our current insane society promotes, rather than suppresses fruits.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Agreed. Rick Grinnell was one of the few Trump appointments who proved worth a damn, and that dude floats. He played the Deep State like the foolish abomination it is.

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

do you really think that somebody like Don Lemon has “rationality” of any kind?

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  tonaludatus
3 years ago

I see you are new at this. Hint hint, it has something to do with ‘race’(which is just a social construct as we know). End result= double negative.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  tonaludatus
3 years ago

Yeah, I’m hardly convinced the heaumeaux are up there with the pros when it comes to rationality.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

The Imperial Capital is surely the gayest city in our country. I bet that Frisco isn’t even close.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

NYC. They gravitate to the meat locker.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

Palm Springs is supposed to be pretty flaming.

John Smith
John Smith
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

Compromised individuals are easier to control. Pizza, anyone?

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

I think the reason there is a lot of gay men in politics is because they derive sadistic sexual pleasure from bossing other men around.

The last thing a normal straight guy wants to do is tell other guys how to act.

Noticed too that gay guys when they are hitting on men, they get real nasty and mentally or sometimes verbally try to beat the other guy up to soften him. I liken it to kneading dough. I guess this is their mating dance for who is pitcher and who is catcher

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

According to Derb, though, they all want to catch. Every bottom looking for a top, he sez.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Unlike Derb, I’m glad my job doesn’t require me to have an option on that matter 😉

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

The mere knowledge makes one feel slightly unclean…

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Arthur Sido
3 years ago

Amen. When I finished my degree in the Imperial Capital, with the requisite time on Capitol Hill and among the future darlings of Foggy Bottom, I ran for the exits. I wasn’t even close to being DR at that time, but such was the repulsiveness of that city’s denizens.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Denizens of iniquity…

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Arthur Sido
3 years ago

Pompey, Crassus, Cleopatra, Caesar… what did any of them believe in other than their own career and personal power? We have arrived at that same end-point of a republic turning into an empire.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

I believe we at the point of the empire verging on disintegration.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Arthur Sido
3 years ago

When I studied PolSci, I discovered, to my amazement, that Danish politicians were surprisingly easy to approach with interview requests if you were a student. I suspect they hungered for some more considered appreciation than what they got from the journos. I interviewed a lot of interesting people – about fifty former and acting ministers plus some permanent secretaries; the latter being much harder to get interviews with than politicians. There were some interesting people among them – most of them were nonentities – but one of them, acting finance minister Mogens Lykketoft, stuck out to me. He was cagey… Read more »

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james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Arthur Sido
3 years ago

Henry Adams, grandson of John Quincy, worked with his father at the American legation in London representing the Union during the Civil War. His job was to learn all the English players and their interest, which he found to be nearly impossible to sort. After forty years of experiencing them he realized his evaluations had been wrong in every case, that the entire class were explained simply by insanity, and he did not mean philosophically insane. Our ruling class is not so inbred, yet, but is philosophically and morally insane. A person not in tune with this class would be… Read more »

David Wright
Member
3 years ago

It has been said often about in the before times, most executives, government leaders etc knew some people or were themselves from poor or working class background.

Robert Macnamara when he became ceo of Ford in the early sixties and saw all the management class derived from those backgrounds, who worked their way up through merit and hard work. He decided they needed ivy league graduates with pedigrees.Everything improved after that , right?

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

only the best and brightest.

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

It was called “The Best And The Brightest.” After “PT 109” the first of many Big Lies from the Deep State.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

When I started at my current place of work, the production manager was a local guy who’d started on the floor and worked his way to the top. He had a connection with his employees because he lived among them and always would. He had their respect because he’d done the same things he was asking him to do. He’d been in that position for a couple decades, too, so we knew he had experience in his position. Since he hung it up a decade ago, we’ve had 9 people rotate through that position. They were all wunderkinds who went… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Can’t promote from the floor, eh?

Yak-15
Yak-15
3 years ago

The biggest gap between us and the cloud people, and also between progs and conservatives, is morality. They see the ultimate in high moral being as helping out the other – those not like them, those from afar. Whereas, our people see morality attained by helping ourselves, our neighbors and co-ethics, to prosper. This played out recently with a female in-law. “Why would you vote for Trump, he is crazy,” the zhirl contended. I responded by saying “Trump has a lot of issues but he is the closest thing in DC that represents my interests and the interests of my… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Yak-15
3 years ago

It’s normal and healthy to put the interests of yourself and your family first, followed by your neighbors, community, county, state, nation, in that order. Not leaping over all of that to help out Haitians or Africans or some other faraway place containing people completely unlike yourself in terms of relatedness. Now that people in our own neighborhoods and communities are increasingly full of people not like us, that disrupts what’s normal and healthy.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

You should see the pro-trans, “New American Families” feature in the Guardian.

You know things are messed up when plain old gays like Andy Ngo poke fun by calling the piece, “World Salad: The Article.”

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  Yak-15
3 years ago

If by morality you mean something that is chosen, requiring agency, I would disagree. I definitely follow the theory it’s much more biologically rooted- as in temperament, which is largely inherited. Overcoming this requires making them more self aware that our differences are not so much about choice, which is painful for them because they feel they are choosing virtue, when in reality it’s often weakness combined with openness and sometimes agreeableness(not always, there are many disagreeable progs). This can be unpleasant for them to face for obvious reasons. Realizing you are just a prog humanoid who has much less… Read more »

Gunner Q
Reply to  Yak-15
3 years ago

The point of helping “those who are far away” is refusing to help “those who are near” without taking a hit for hating one’s own people.

“Of course I wish you the best. But sorry, I’m busy being kind to this newly discovered tribe of Polynesian midgets that I’ll never actually meet!”

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Gunner Q
3 years ago

It is the abstraction that appeals because it is easier. Much easier to love mankind than any particular person. Those far away exotics are more of an abstraction that the people in your own town.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Yak-15
3 years ago

When talking to these people I use the airplane analogy:
You put your own seatbelt on first. Then you put your children’s seatbelts on. Then you can help any neighbors who look like they need it.

Why do we put our own on first? Sustainability … If we are so busy looking after others far away, we may ourselves pass out and be unable to help ourselves, our children, or anyone else. It is also clear at this point that absolutely no one is going to help us.

Yman
Yman
Reply to  Yak-15
3 years ago

It’s nothing to do about morality
It’s how to please current plutocratic authority and reward petty consumerism soup
If you really focus on the every day news and social media, it’s about how to get money 

In liberal democracy, only values are money because the real value of mankind such as race, gender, tribal heritage erased
Morality, equality, peace is an imaginary reality that middlemen put in your head and want you to believe
People enslaved without noticing for this Bigfoot riding unicorn story is their biggest achievement

David Wright
Member
3 years ago

I happened on youtube to see the opening scene in Designated Survivor, the Keifer Sutherland tv show where he is the only one of the president’s cabinet to survive a terroist attack when the state of the union speech was given. Honestly, seeing the aftermath of the explosion in the distance on the capital was quite satisfying.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Tom Clancy ran with this plot line in Debt of Honor to get the Jack Ryan character installed as President.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Audiences famously cheered when the White House was destroyed in the movie Independence Day. The studio was surprised at first, then featured the shot in all their advertising. The press blamed Newt Gingrich and “angry white men.”

In some ways the world has changed a lot since then. Some.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Hemid
3 years ago

Ah sorry I missed you post before laying down mine, . Let us just say its true, I was there, have an up-vote.

John Smith
John Smith
Reply to  Hemid
3 years ago

Same stuff, different decade. In the 90s, Gingrich and Clinton were members of the CFR, while Soros and Cheney were CFR directors. The globalists intend for us to tear down the old order so they can replace it with something more to their liking.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

This has been the national mood for along time. When I went to see Independence day in theater way back in 1996 the entire audience cheered when the aliens blew up Congress.

Thud Muffle
Member
3 years ago

“We looked around and realized there were more of us than there were of them”
Lech Walesa

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Thud Muffle
3 years ago

You’d think the folks on the beach in Melbourne, Australia would have realized this as they watched the police beat and arrest a pregnant woman for failing to wear a face diaper last weekend.

You’d be wrong.

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Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Sometimes it takes a very special man, like Walesa, to notice the obvious. Solzhenitsyn speaks poignantly about the failure of his countrymen to realize the same thing.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

That wasn’t Chescescu’s first speech. But it was his last. You only find that out after they write the history books, though.
Fwiw, you couldn’t pay me enough to join those Aussie pigs. Good chance they end up the way Il Duce did. Nasty way to go. Eventually, the commies down under will stumble upon their Bernie Goetz.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Australia had a pretty active communist party and movement in the immediate aftermath of World War I, and the epicenter of Down Under Marxism was the State of Victoria (Melbourne and smaller cities such as Geelong). People there remain radically Left, and expect the police to beat and arrest a pregnant woman who doesn’t obey the State. That’s the thing about totalitarianism, it tends to have quite a bit of support and doesn’t have to rely exclusively on secret police thugs. It would shock me if this happened in some place like the Northern Territories or Queensland. Victoria? Not so… Read more »

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OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Scan the biographies of the political class and the thing you will be hard pressed to find is anything resembling real world experience. Did this a couple of months ago with our Members of Parliament. I managed to go through six names – starting with the Labour party – the similarity in backgrounds was so striking after even this small sample set, I thought that there was no point in going on: MP X was born in Hampstead to Mr X, a teacher and Mrs X, a social justice organizer. MP Y was born in Telford to Mr Y, a… Read more »

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

I would change the clausal opener to “scan the biographies of the careerist class …” E.g. – Scan the biographies of admirals and generals. They have a smattering of operational, point-of-the-spear tours of duty, but they’re usually of very short duration, and preceded and followed by tours in the Pentagon or “congressional affairs.” I was once an assignment officer, frequently receiving tasking to carefully assign a supporting cast of warriors to prop up the upwardly mobile (and feebly qualified) careerist. But in the arena of crisis & conflict, these feeble parasites were worse than useless. Then I became a senior… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  CAPT S
3 years ago

And its why cloud people despise dirt people. True. As to your wider point about careerists, and with particular focus on the military, every time I see one of their higher-ups, particularly in the Anglosphere, I think: How does this person square up to Erwin Rommel? It just all seems so false these days. Quite how many of these men can claim any authority or speak confidently of battle when they’ve not even – and correct me if I am wrong – seen it for any extended period of time is beyond me. But yes, you’re correct that this applies… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  CAPT S
3 years ago

During my year or so assignment to the Pentagram (Army), I enjoyed a “war story” from a fellow junior enlisted in a technical field. He was repairing an electronic gizmo is some General’s office and, when the General asked him if he wanted some coffee, the subrdinate (LTC? Captain?) unhappily brought it to the E-4 🙂

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CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

“Repairing an electronic gizmo.” Had to laugh at that one. Serious experience with that as well – when a General gets exasperated with an electronic casualty it’s often because he couldn’t figure out the on-off switch.

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Chester White
Chester White
Reply to  CAPT S
3 years ago

Those who can do; those who can’t teach.

Milestone D
Milestone D
Reply to  CAPT S
3 years ago

A friend once conducted a review of Flag Officer biographies over many years to determine any patterns that might lead to flag selection. Turns out, the most common billet among Flag Officer … Flag Aide!

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  Milestone D
3 years ago

Yep … self-perpetuating incest.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

If you read my comment somewhere on here, you’ll see that I lived around Imperial Capitol folk (US version). While there are slight variations, they’re amazingly similar people with very similar backgrounds. The best you can hope for with these people is indifference toward Dirt People, but it’s usually hatred.

B123
B123
3 years ago

Nancy Pelosi truly thinks she is a beloved and respected figure to the Dirt People.

And not just the white Dirt People. They fancy themselves as the savior of the poor brown masses, who they imagine will be on their knees thanking the generous Cloud People for refugee status.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  B123
3 years ago

Ironic that the bending of the knee has gone only the other way.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

Goodwhites really do seem to have no idea they’re headed for the cannibals’ pots.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Missionaries gonna missionary.

miforest
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

they are beyond clueless in respect to the future.
they are the problem .

Horace
Horace
Reply to  B123
3 years ago

It boggles the mind. All of these diversities have national and tribal ruling elites of their own and replace the stupid white leftists who brought them into our country the very first chance they get. Again and again and again …. THIS time it will be different, said ever leftist ever.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Horace
3 years ago

just like how communist sympathizers claim no country out there was ever truly communistic and that the nth attempt is the charm.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  B123
3 years ago

Pelosi is 80 years old. Statistically speaking, any day could be her last. Instead of being with her family and spending her ill gotten gains on more $15000 freezers and gourmet ice cream she insists on continuing to stir the pot. Any money she leaves her grandkids is not going to protect them for long from the tyranny she is helping to create.

B123
B123
Reply to  Judge Smails
3 years ago

I think she is trying to hold it back.

When she is gone, it’ll be yet another brick in the dam that has fallen out. It’s getting pretty close to bursting…

miforest
Member
Reply to  B123
3 years ago

you got evidence ???

Raynard
Raynard
Member
Reply to  Judge Smails
3 years ago

I’ve often wondered this too. Powerand fame must really be addictive.

Damian
Damian
Reply to  Judge Smails
3 years ago

Gourmet ice cream. I found that part odd. A conspiracy theory friend of mine thought that is their route to importing adreonchrome – hence she was showing that the route was back open. Crazy I know, but one for the memory vault.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
3 years ago

The people suddenly realized that everyone else had the same thoughts about their ruler. Indeed. It is this simultaneous realization that drives any actual revolution or at least push back against the Cloud People. Perhaps this is why keeping your enemies distributed and fragmented is such a powerful weapon to wield. As always, the importance of communities cannot be stressed enough. Oddly enough, these ‘mass awakenings’ are very hard to predict, but are always game changers; the US must surely be due one in the next half a decade. Even on the small scale, it is fascinating to watch how… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

One hopes so, but I ain’t holding my breath. The Soviets put up with a whole lot more than we have to put up with.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Watching the first few minutes of “The Chekist” (to the point where men and women are disrobing in a rat-ridden cellar, preparing to be dutifully shot), I realized everyone in the scene were white people from a Christian, conservative, patriarchal civilization.

How? How did this happen?

Why didn’t the soldiers simply shoot the functionaries issuing the 10-second “judgements”?

I don’t get people, they make no damn sense. The simplest, most direct solution is usually the best- and it eliminates all kinds of future problems. Weed that garden!

Last edited 3 years ago by Alzaebo
miforest
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

that is an amazing movie. made in the early 90’s just after the fall of the ussr. it is a brutal, unflinching , but accurate view of what happened after the Bolsheviks took over . remembering that ANTIFA is bolshevik , it casts the current runctions in a much more severe light.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

“Perhaps this is why keeping your enemies distributed and fragmented is such a powerful weapon to wield.” Yes, but it only works for a short while. The powers that be are trying to stave off an insurrection, and there are two ways to do it: keep your citizens divided against each other, or pursue a unified vision of material improvement for everyone. The former is easier, but it has the nasty side effect of diminishing the polity which is being ruled, making it susceptible to invasion and conquest, or of destroying it altogether. The latter is more difficult, but leads… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

I doubt DC would care if China came in and took over. They’d probably be relieved

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Isn’t at least half of DC on the Chinese payroll already?

John Smith
John Smith
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

“Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded, not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering a high morale and community
propose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao’s leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history.”

— David Rockefeller, CFR chairman, New York Times, 1973-08-10

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

I am a fly on the wall to my wife’s teleconferences with the c-levels and boards of Fortune 100 companies and a few top banks. You have no idea how badly they hate you. The traditional operational aspects of their businesses comprise 10% of discussion. The other 90% is literally how to elimate people like you from their lives by replacement and winnowing cuts and gates. And, of course, how to increase their already ridiculously oversized compensation packages. It’s all derivative of status-seeking where enough can never be enough. These visible leaders live and breath to continually increase the distance… Read more »

B123
B123
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

Nothing like being told by the all white senior leadership that you’re evil for being white and need to be replaced.

They are selfish cowards – but the anti white wave is coming for them too – and if not them, their children. Being eaten last still means being eaten.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  B123
3 years ago

The religion of Diversity! furthers their true objectives. Social Justice is their mantra and the hypocracy at these meetings the invisible spectre hovering unperceived by any on the call.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

Sometimes why I think we should bring back the draft

It would bring the cloud and dirt people together and perhaps forge some kind of bonds and empathy. But that assumes anyone actually wants a harmonious country

But I also believe that the draft would force a lot of illegals to run home so they didn’t have fight and maybe to die in a gringo war

Member
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

I don’t suppose you could “accidentally” leave your phone out with a recorder app running during some of these conferences? Strictly for “historical purposes” of course.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

The thought has occurred.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

Let’s end them all to Mars, where they’ll be free of our contamination .

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
3 years ago

> This is the reason every middle manager sounds like a psychotherapist.
This is not a good thing.
One of my buddies went to his manager to argue that his pay did not equal his responsibilities, he was hamstrung by bureaucracy that has nothing to do with quality, and he was not given enough leverage in doing what was necessary. Basically a boilerplate complaint that any competent engineer has had at one point or another.
The manager just looked at him and asked “And how does that make you feel?”

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MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Whenever I hear “ask your boss for a raise,” my response is “okay, Boomer”

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
3 years ago

The dirt people are clearly having the same thought.
“Arizona Ammunition Maker Facing $80-Million In Back Orders” https://bearingarms.com/came/2020/09/30/ammunition-maker-80-million-back-orders/

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Higgs Boson
3 years ago

Who’s buying all the ammo? The State? Mr. Normie-Con/Prepper? Or the fascist Left? I suspect the State and the fascist Left are winning this contest too.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

The TactiCool set has it gathering dust on a shelf in the basement

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

https://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/cuomo-forget-30-rounds-no-one-needs-10-rounds-in-a-gun/#axzz6a6YBfYaf “Cuomo: Forget 30 Rounds, No One Needs 10 Rounds in a Gun”From the piece, No one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer…” Now I might speak to the “shootings” compared to the “deaths” in the shitlibistan Utopias where both activities take place in the dozens every weekend. And where people apparently go to “haunted houses” in the wee hours of the morning, on nights when others have to work the next day … only to be shot and killed. So in terms of the “10 bullets”, looking at the data, one might need that quantity to kill an… Read more »

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Owlman
3 years ago

Further, many inner city people in places like Jersey City, New Jersy, keep chickens on hand. So one might not need to travel to the countryside to hunt them. Then, perhaps, being penned in alleys, one might be plugged with lead with a mere 10 rounds, as they would be unable to exit their compounds and head to safety. All that said, the Post this is in reply to mentions something “tacticool”. Whatever that means, suspect poster owns a sex doll as its sole companion. There is a certain tone. We know leftist mobs usually show up at a residence… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Owlman
3 years ago

I keep seeing these video segments on YT with headlines that begin like “26 people shot to death…” They always make sure the headline is long enough so you have to click on the video to see the part that says “…in Chicago this weekend.” Then you can relax again.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

Not all of us can relax again.

Member
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

I’ve always wondered if the normal people still stuck there have weekend dachas in the cornfields of Indiana just to escape the now predictable “festivities” in Chicongo.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

Some do, we do not although it has been explored. In our case, we have two Plan B’s. An older but dear friend, a gazillionaire, lives three days a week in one of Chicago’s premier buildings to remain near her elderly mother here. She also acquired an enormous spread near my home town in Michigan and the home there is the size of a mid-sized city hotel complete with lagoons, ponds, swan boats and orchards leased out to local farmers. Another good friend owns as a second home a large family-owned farm in Wisconsin that has several coach houses on the… Read more »

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

They have terrible aims there in Chitcongo. Very low kill rates per shot fired. Somebody needs to start showing those fools how to shoot a gun. Although maybe not.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

Everyone is buying guns and ammo.Men, Women, White, Non White.
Everyone knows trouble is coming.
But as for lack of action, don’t expect other to do what you won’t do.
Oh yes let us not forget the mandatory disclaimer, don’t do stupid illegal things.

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Member
Reply to  abprosper
3 years ago

Stupid or illegal, just not stupid and illegal.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

Those fancy knives, though!

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

Mostly the right, but essentially everyone. All the rodents know the ship is sinking. And unless the left has taken to hard core gun culture, it is mostly the right. Reloading, hunting,and black powder supplies are “sold out – no backorder” these days. I dont see Antifa setting up a communal Dillon progressive and churning out hot 38 special loads being the reason you cannot buy bullets, primers, or powder for love nor money.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

No. I live in a deep red area where BLM/Antifa is nonexistent, yet ammo is plenty scarce. The guns and the ammo are being stockpiled by the right, such that it is.

Not_Romantic
Not_Romantic
Reply to  Higgs Boson
3 years ago

Ammo and guns run out every election since 2008.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Not_Romantic
3 years ago

Not like this. The last nine months has had the largest sales in US history.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  abprosper
3 years ago

I suspect “normie” overload due to riots and publicity there of. Gunnies and preppers have bought beforehand, albeit often again after a national shooting incident.

I suspect our perceived constant state of lawlessness and the inaction of political leadership is bringing those on the sidelines into the buying spree. As a 2nd Amendment person, I say the more, the merrier.

I’m actually divesting wrt the “armory”. Whenever I see a good candidate for “enlightenment”, I issue him out of stock. 😉

Last edited 3 years ago by CompscI
Raynard
Raynard
Member
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

Send some my way, friend? I have a lot of practice 556, but no defense 556…

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Raynard
3 years ago

Frankly speaking and off topic, most defense ammo isn’t really any better than basic ammo. Sure its a little higher performance but even in times of plenty, the juice often isn’t worth the squeeze.
As long as it shoots, its all good practice ammo or fighting ammo.
The caveat being precision rifle ammo which is at very long range better than the basic stuff.

Last edited 3 years ago by abprosper
Henry Lee
Member
3 years ago

The guy I worked for the most over the years at the telephone company said that a good boss was a good subordinate. He also was known to say, “If you look out that window long enough you can see the unemployment line.”

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
3 years ago

The starkest example of this delusion is Joe Biden’s “tough guy” act. I keep waiting for him to try his “working-class Joe” spiel on the wrong guy, roll up his sleeves and talk about kicking ass and then to subsequently get his dentures shattered like fine china. Sure, he has a security detail, but he is dumb and has already gotten in the faces of several people not inclined to play in his pretend realm. Who is the last “Swamp Creature” to burnish working class bona fides who wasn’t completely full of it? Tim Russert, maybe. Michael Moore’s everyman b.s.… Read more »

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

Biden can experience a little Charles Sumner if he gets too close tot he wrong sniffing victim or her father/husband.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Owlman
3 years ago

Every time I sit in traffic in the Sumner Tunnel I regret that members of Congress no longer fear being caned.

B123
B123
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

Nothing worse than a phony tough guy.

I have no issue with real, rough and tough blue collar guys.

But joe is fake and I want to knock him out every time he pulls his BS act.

Chiron
Chiron
3 years ago

Lindsey Graham not being outed as a homosexual predator after years in Washington is proof that he is protected by powerful interests, likely Israel, military industrial complex, foreign policy lobbies and stuff like that.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Chiron
3 years ago

You claim to know Graham is a fag but he hasn’t been outed? Then how do you know? Just asking for a friend.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Hoagie
3 years ago

Psst. Wait till you hear the truth about Richard Simmons…

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

He may as well be throwing confetti.

Suburban_elk
Reply to  Hoagie
3 years ago

Liberace is a great piano player (but there’s just something about him)

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Chiron
3 years ago

It’s almost more telling that in those 260+ taxpayer-funded settlements (1997-2017) that Z mentions not one of the pervs names leaked out?

Lady G's Return
Lady G's Return
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

Very few names around Epstein have leaked out, too. Lends credence to the Ron Unz theory on how the elite move up in society.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Lady G's Return
3 years ago

I’m not familiar with Unz’s theory. But, like the Clintons (with whom Epstein had more than a passing aquaintance) there’s a statistical anomaly of associates’ deaths.

Lady G's Return
Lady G's Return
Reply to  Chiron
3 years ago

There’s a point here that Z missed: it did come out, but it was covered up. Remember all that Lady G stuff a few months ago? Yeah, betting there are a lot of dead bodies in the Potomac waiting to be found.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Chiron
3 years ago

the pictures thsey have on him don’t bear thinking about …

Christian Attorney in Ohio
Reply to  Chiron
3 years ago

Grahamesty could be asexual and not a practicing homosexual. On the other hand, he promised hearings to investigate the Russia collusion plot to overthrow Trump and never followed through. Blackmail may be the reason why he gave up the opportunity to be a conservative hero (which he was briefly when he stood up for Kavanaugh).

sentry
sentry
3 years ago

many people nowadays miss ceausescu and the real reason ceausescu died was cause Silviu Brucan(jew) orchestrated his assassination, but I agree with the article’s message.
Romania is being ruled by jews right now, they control secret services, they control media, they caused election fraud, Ceasuescu was romanian nationalist, despite his many faults.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

information about brucan comes from actual historian, I just parroted the guy.
I don’t know if jews control secret services in Pakistan, but SRI chief is Eduard Raul Hellvig(he’s a jew, google him), he received soros scholarship, 1997-1998 he was Soros foundation coordinator.

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Anna
Anna
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Don’t forget that Jews rule the world! And they are under your bed too!

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Anna
3 years ago

I had a Jew under my bed for 17 years and imma expert on the subject.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Anna
3 years ago

I have Jews in my walls. They still believe Nazi’s are pursuing them.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Anna
3 years ago

Not under my bed, yet, but at my dental office

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

A Serious Man by the Cohen Bros. The mystery of the goy’s teeth. Falcone, they’re not treating your teeth, they are interpreting them to solve the puzzle. And, billing you up the wazoo.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

Dentistry as reconnaissance, very clever

Sandmich
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Always makes me think what would be different with no Jews in America: probably not as much as people would think, and probably even for the worse. The best example that’s pointed out is Sweden: a country with (nearly) no Jews, no “legacy of slavery” and no colonialism and yet has no issues sucking on the PC crack pipe even harder than the most ardent left-wing Jew. There’s more going on there than some well thought out maniacal scheme by Netanyahu. And yeah The Merchant doesn’t have our best interests at heart (quite the contrary), but they wouldn’t be selling… Read more »

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  Sandmich
3 years ago

Yeah, but a lot of their policy is just a mimesis of/cow towing to globalist progressive Jewry, but whites effectively create their own Jewish like class and the thinking ends up being basically the same as the chosen tribe so I get your point. The difference is, the Jews protect/weaponize themselves with the very same multicult/civil rights legislation that dismantles Euro majority’s, by being part of an untouchable outgroup/tribe. The white elites don’t have that luxury.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Sandmich
3 years ago

Good thing the Swedes own their media and banks.

And Pakistan? Who could possibly have an interest in the British Raj? Opium played no part- zip, zero, none- in world affairs.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Sandmich
3 years ago

Things would be very different Anyone who grew up in a white area without a lot of Jewish people and influence knows it well Night and day difference Not saying Jewish people don’t have their talents, but they don’t have what it takes to run a society. They stink at it. Not much better than blacks, actually. On some level they have to know it, and their “hate whitey” stance is probably a coping mechanism and distraction from their complete and utter failure. If you fancy yourself chosen by the creator of the universe yet some “hick” in muddy boots… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Did you mean “Palestine”? 🙂

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

That’s classic, and, yes, it is the same as putting the demise on Ceausescu on the Tribe’s shoulders.
My personal favorite, not original by me but still, was the Muslim claim 9/11 was both a Mossad op and a major Arab victory.

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Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

i was going to down vote this comment, but it really made me laugh out loud, so i left it alone 😛

that video of Ceausescu (and his wife) running around like headless chickens, is funny AF!

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Ceasueacu never strayed too far from Moscow’s line. Marshall Tito, he wasn’t.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

Ceausescu was nationalist in the purest sense, meaning he wanted total independence from any outside force, including the russians.
Ceausescu was the precursor of Gaddafi(they were allies actually), Gadaffi had similar polices to Ceausescu’s, meaning paying external debt and zero dependence on western banking system. Both figures ended up the same way and their countries got ruined.
Tito was much closer to russians than Causescu was, yugoslavians and soviets were good pals, yougoslavians had it easy during communism, not like the romanians, who were too ambitious for their weight class.

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sentry
sentry
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

i actually agree about the narrative that Ceausescu was a cloud person, the romanian secret services lied to him, they told Ceausescu that he was universally loved by the people, he really believed that crap, he never saw his death coming. The secret police in romania were bad, the people around ceausescu were the worst. His wife was an awful Hillary type woman, but Ceausescu himself as a person wasn’t that bad, he was an uneducated man, he was basically the equivalent of an american redneck with street smarts, who loved his country. You can’t really expect too much from… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

The story regarding ceausecu’s regime going downhill during 80s has a lot to do with the west. Westerners used Ceausescu during 70s for political reasons, so their banks offered him loans, some occidental countries even bought some of the stuff romanians exported(as favours), but no one really wanted to buy cheap, trashy romanian products, the romanian economy was doomed from the start imo. In early 80s romanian debt grew so he took 4 loans from IMF, despite that economy still wasn’t strong enough to pay back the initial debt. Creditors suffocated him, demanding money in return so Ceausescu did the… Read more »

Christian Attorney in Ohio
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

That is true. Virginia Pruden (she’s on Facebook) was a Christian attorney in Romania. She won quite a few religious liberty cases showing that there was some independence within the judiciary. Ceausescu kicked her out eventually, but most Communist tyrants would have imprisoned her or arranged an accident.

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Libya was attacked to prevent formation of an alternate currency. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/6528 BLUF: “This gold was accumulated prior to the current rebellion and was intended to be used to establish a pan-African currency based on the Libyan golden Dinar. This plan was designed to provide the Francophone African Countries with an alternative to the French.franc (CFA)…this quantity of gold and silver is valued at more than $7 billion. French intelligence officers discovered this plan shortly after the current rebellion began, and this was one of the factors that influenced President Nicolas Sarkozy’s decision to commit France to the attack on Libya.”… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
3 years ago

Sarkozy echoes, too, most unfortunate. So unfair.

Last edited 3 years ago by Alzaebo
Anna
Anna
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

O, and Ceasescu was so independent of outside world that he charged Israel thousands of dollars for every Jew he allowed to leave.
Till my last days in the Soviet Union in the 70s there was always a positive coverage of Ceausescu and negative of Yugoslav Iosif Tito.