A Peaceful End

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The Feds announced to great fanfare that they foiled a plot by far-right extremists to kidnap the daffy governor of Michigan. They coordinated this with the governor so she could try to gain some sympathy. Of course, this being the age of lies, the extremists were mostly anarchists and random goofballs talked into this by the Feds. Putting aside the absurdity of this case, it does raise a good question. That is, why has there been so little organized violence in America?

Now, people will point to the left-wing riots over the summer, but that was always intended to be theater. Those people in the streets are not resisting anything or trying to topple the system. They are creatures of the system. As soon as official sanction is withdrawn, they melt away, as we saw in 2016 and now 2020. What we have not seen is violence from people who genuinely wish to topple the prevailing order or strike a blow against it for political reasons.

This is not just a current year issue. The 9/11 attacks were a spectacular example of how an open society is vulnerable to attack. There are plenty of Muslims in America and some portion of them hate the government. The 9/11 attacks should have inspired some of them to do similar attacks. Instead, a few misfits were caught in lone-wolf style efforts, but otherwise, not much. As with the fictional right-wing militias, the FBI was left to arresting on-line losers pretending to be Al-Qaeda.

It’s easy to miss the lack of organized violence, as the media floods the zone with agit-prop about invisible Nazis and peaceful riots. These are campfire stories they tell the true believers so they will remain vigilant. In reality, there has been precious little push-back of any kind, much less the violent sort. They had to turn Gavin McInnes’s goofy fan club into a terrorist group, because they were so desperate for material. The demand for extremists of any type far exceeds the supply.

Consider this. When was the last time someone fired a shot at a president? Despite how hated Trump is by the Left, there has been no Squeaky Fromme. According to Wikipedia, the threats to Obama were humorously ridiculous. The worst thing to happen to Bush was that some Iraqi tossed a shoe at him. Like Obama, the threats to Clinton were random goofballs. The last President to get shot at was Reagan. Assassination has become a thing of the past in our politics.

Going back to the Muslim stuff, the thing no one ever asked is why were these guys so bad at violence? Timothy McVeigh showed how easy it is to make a big bomb from common materials. Instead of hijacking airplanes, they could have had suicide bombers in rental trucks popping up all over the country. Think about how many soft targets there are in a typical city. Think about how many vulnerable choke points there are, like bridges and tunnels. Yet, nothing ever happens.

Now, the Feds will claim that their vigilance is what keeps us safe from this sort of stuff, but that is obviously not true. Their effort to subvert the 2016 elections has revealed that the brain-drain in the FBI reached a critical stage long ago. Like the Michigan incident, their big collars are goofballs they talk into saying dumb things on-line. A real terrorist plot would have nothing to fear from the FBI. The lack of such incidents is due to factors outside of the law enforcement operations.

One possible answer for this is that people engaged in politics are not the sort that see force as a political tool. It is the foxes versus the lions phenomenon. Modern politics is about abstract concepts, not group interests. Union guys a century ago were willing to blow up the company offices because both sides were lions, engaged in a battle for physical stuff. Today, political combatants are foxes, engaged in a battle of wits over complex theories about how best to run society.

Another possible reason is people are becoming more docile and stupid. The latter is fairly well established. Not only is the demographic mix lowering overall intelligence, but the smart fraction is getting dumber as well. Organized political violence needs smart motivated people. Since the Industrial Revolution, western culture has selected against violence and force, in favor of cooperation. The result is a more docile population that is getting dumber with each generation.

Of course, political violence may be a lagging indicator or even knock-on effect of political turmoil at the upper reaches of society. The West is middle-class and peaceful, but in a steady decline. At some point, like a failing business, the impending collapse becomes obvious to enough people that they abandon orderly politics. This rush to the exits of conventional politics leads to an explosion of political violence. Perhaps that is what lies ahead for the West.

Perhaps Steven Pinker was right and the arc of human evolution leads away from violence and humanity is headed to a peaceful demise. Occidentals have become the panda bears of our species, happy to eat and sleep, but too disinterested in their own survival to reproduce or defend themselves. The rest of the world, which seems more violent and aggressive, is simply a few steps behind, as they have always been, on the evolutionary timeline, but they too will go gently into the night.

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Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
4 years ago

Not only are people stupid, but they’re very credulous. As you’ve pointed out before, if the media firehose is going 24/7 even the cynical assimilate some of what they try to reject. Everyone has been hammered with this “Violence never solves anything” trope so long that it’s been internalized, despite the fact that violence solves pretty much everything. It’s pretty much magic. Kids used to learn this in the schoolyard. You’re agonizing about getting picked on by some bully, you dread it all day at home and school, then finally you snap and one day instead of telling him to… Read more »

Hilltop
Hilltop
Reply to  Joey Jünger
4 years ago

I remember how Tucker Carlson made a clip criticizing Antifa, saying that the lesson Antifa takes from their actions is that “violence works, that’s the message.”

He meant that as a criticism, but lacked the self-awareness (or perhaps needed to appear to lack it on a normie-right mainstream outlet) to point out that if it works, and your enemy is doing it, then you have to do it, too, just to survive.

Of course the lads on the socials turned it into a half-ironic meme recontexualizing it into our point of view.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qYR9sASTkzBv/

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RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Hilltop
4 years ago

What you say is true. The flip side of that coin is to look at who has been targeted for prosecution: mostly people defending themselves and/or their property. Also who has taken a public a stand for the people defending themselves and their property? (AFAIK it’s Malkin, the guy who’s defending the Covington kids, and a few others w/o influence. No elected officials or institutions that I know of.)

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Hilltop
4 years ago

I actually hope the Karen plot up in Michigan really was executed by our guys rather than being a false flag op. I mean, we’re always talking about elites swinging form lamp posts, are we not?

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Joey Jünger
4 years ago

Joey, all too true. But the great unknown is, “When clown world stops, can such pacifist tendencies be unlearned?” There is reason to believe that it can. Certainly, the military thinks so, or it would go out of business. On the other hand, they specialize is taking on teenagers not so poz’d yet by society.

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Joey Jünger
4 years ago

if you’re the only one remaining then you don’t have to worry about being “right.” The person you were arguing with is dead.”

The wisdom of Max Stirner. Abstract “rights” mean nothing unless you have the power to enforce them, and if you do, you don’t need “rights” anyway.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  James O'Meara
4 years ago

Ding Ding Ding We have a winner…If people just understood that simple truth then they would be doing more than just posting online they would be gathering together so they would have the power to determine their future…

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Joey Jünger
4 years ago

Times have changed

For one, if you used to get in a fight you knew you could trust the guy not to try and kill you. There was a code. When one guy was down, you stopped. It was understood.

I may of course stir the hornet’s nest here with this next comment, but I knew things were going deeper into shit when things like UFC and MMA became popular and it became okay for guys to kick. That fucked up everything. Men NEVER kicked each other. That’s not a white thing. Probably comes from Asia.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

That’s an American and maybe Anglo conceit.
Kicking when fighting is permitted is A-OK in France do the prevalence of Savate

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Watch your average jogger hyena attack. Once the victim is on the ground, the head stomping and kicking commence.

AntiSocialMedia
AntiSocialMedia
Reply to  usNthem
4 years ago

I would expect that is an outgrowth, to an extent, of the culture of criminality in the black community. (Rap, drug culture etc.)

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

You seem hopelessly confused about what a “fight” even IS. Queensbury rules slappy slap hands pretend to box for a minute behind the gym is not a fight.

Forget kicking for a moment – if you can’t GRAPPLE, you can’t fight because anyone who CAN will easily dump you on your head in seconds and do whatever they like to you after that.

Like in that exotic ancient asian art of wrestling for example.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Anonymousse
4 years ago

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Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Anonymousse
4 years ago

Grappling works when it’s one on one.. Do it when your oppo has his homies with him and you will get your head stomped into the ground even if you’re Gracie BB.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

There’s no way to fight a group successfully without going full Kyle Rittenhouse and there’s no way to go Kyle Rittenhouse without being dogpiled by (((lawyers))) much more bloodthirsty and remorseless than jogger mobs. This is why the best self defense is to avoid joggers, particularly in groups. But if you ever NEED to fight one person, life or death style, grappling is for that. Striking is great and you should absolutely do it too, but if you can only have one, learn to grapple. In any event none of this has anything to do with the “face the bully… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Anonymousse
4 years ago

That’s assuming the striker doesn’t knock him out cold before he can get his hands on him.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

You need a bit of both but if things go to hell, a gun and ammo with skill and a gunfighter mentality will serve you better.

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Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Joey Jünger
4 years ago

“You’re agonizing about getting picked on by some bully, you dread it all day at home and school, then finally you snap and one day instead of telling him to stop, you hit him…and usually it stops. And afterwards you feel better and are almost grateful to the bully.” Okay grandpa maybe that was how things functioned among well socialized christian white kids. Kids today know if they hit a bully back, he’s probably named Jamal and instead of learning to respect your gumption… turns up with a pack of other joggers the next day that may actually kill you.… Read more »

Durendal
Durendal
4 years ago

Whites probably won’t act violently until their comfortable lives are made very uncomfortable. It’s just to easy for the vast majority of whites to ignore the abuse and demographic replacement while they have full bellies and unlimited entertainment and vices.

Hilltop
Hilltop
Reply to  Durendal
4 years ago

We’ve become like the Land of the Lotus Eaters.

Or perhaps the Eloi from The Time Machine?

Or the bread-and-circuses late Romans?

Or the panda bear, as the Zman says?

Or the Kakopo? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGso1H7ZACU)

Many such analogies. Jeez, I’m blackpilling myself here, I think I’ll cook myself a big breakfast steak and think on how to help with /our/ thing.

Bilbo Baggins
Bilbo Baggins
Reply to  Hilltop
4 years ago

Hobbits.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Hilltop
4 years ago

The stars are right and Ry’lyeh has risen from the sea floor

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago
Ivar
Member
Reply to  Hilltop
4 years ago

Staying on the cusp of the Black Pill is tough.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Durendal
4 years ago

I think that’s exactly right.

Who wants to go out and risk getting killed or imprisoned when the government will send send you $600 per week to watch porn and football and eat yourself into obesity in an air-conditioned home?

People are not violent because they are domesticated animals, getting fat eating from the government’s hand.

For now.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Xman
4 years ago

That, and avoidance is an easy strategy. It’s extremely easy for citizens to avoid direct contact and conflict with the federal government (taxes excepted). I haven’t interacted directly with the federal government at all at any point in my life, and I live in a rural area that has no surveillance or any sort of LEO presence. If the federal government disappeared tomorrow, the only thing I’d notice is having more spending money. The main dynamic between government and the people is that direct conflict with the government favors the government, avoidance favors the people. It would be stupid to… Read more »

Murrican
Murrican
Reply to  Drew
4 years ago

That money would be wothless within a day or two, because only thing that guarantees its dubious value is force of the Federal Government. So, my good man, you have been interacting with the said government on the everyday basis, since your birth. You can avoid nothing, even if you would be living in Somalian tribal lands – because they too use dollars. Please dont kid yourself.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Murrican
4 years ago

With all due respect to your comment on Drew’s comment; are you saying/implying that people would just lay down and die if Fed Guv wasn’t around to back money as a means of exchange? I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure that barter and other such forms would spring up immediately out of necessity. The G adds no value. To anything.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Murrican
4 years ago

I’d recommend you read a book called Debt: the first 5000 years. There are a couple places where the author discusses how people continue to use a currency after the government that issues it no longer exists, and how some places use it after the imperial forces that imposed it’s use withdraw. Your assertion has no basis in reality, and is predicated on a theory that doesn’t track with reality. You clearly do not know the history of money and currency as used by humans and are operating bon theories that have little to do with reality. I recommend you… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Drew
4 years ago

they used fiat currency after gov fell?

Drew
Drew
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

In a couple instances. Other times hard currency that had been debased. There was also another instance of people exchanging tokens from a store that went bankrupt. The point was that old currency would be used for exchange after the issuing government (or other entity) went down mostly as a matter of custom and habit. It’s a very interesting read because it uses documented history to disprove a lot of economic theory. Really, it’s a true eye-opener.

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Drew
4 years ago

i will check it out. color me skeptical however.Cheers

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Murrican
4 years ago

Who uses federal reserves notes nowadays? Most transactions are carried out through electronic blips among non-government entities. When you buy your plastic gizmo at Target, it is a series of electronic blips among you, Visa and Target. “US Dollars” are simply a counting/valuing convention.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Xman
4 years ago

Hard to explain, but even when I was a young man, violence just seemed right. Referring to physical violence with guys getting into fights and so on. It just seemed right. What happened I don’t know.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Prior to 1970 when easy divorce/broken homes/latchkey kids and such began, almost everyone even Black folks had a father at home for at least a decade. As time went on the culture got more feminized and brittle. Also people live inside mostly, use computers all the time and to such a degree vitamin d deficiency is an issue for many people. This leads to a weaker population. Lastly, after 1973 families got drastically smaller. The TFR hit 1.8 or so in that year and that meant that many families had at most one sibling and it wasn’t that rate to… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

Someone here, today, criticized the group a bit for chattering back and forth rather than taking action—in other words talking solves nothing. AB, your post reaffirms why I post and read. Concise synopsis and deductive conclusions. All serve to direct focus and harden resolve.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  CompscI
4 years ago

That s high praise indeed. Thank you very much.

thisisme
thisisme
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Mostly empty-Nester women run things now. Men in the west are PW. Just my low IQ maybe. Great insight as always Z. Thanks.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Xman
4 years ago

Seriously, when was the last time someone starved to death in this country?

That’s not nothing, but there appear to be hidden costs. Like liberty, for one.

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches
Reply to  ProZNoV
4 years ago

“Seriously, when was the last time someone starved to death in this country?”

Hello!

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MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Fa Cube Itches
4 years ago

Upvoted for an extremely obscure reference

bob sykes
bob sykes
Reply to  Xman
4 years ago

As Harpending and Cochrane pointed out years ago, we are descended from those who took the knee.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Xman
4 years ago

As the piece says, smart and motivated. The lower IQ influx has probably reduced scores on average, but if IQ is largely hereditary, the dumbing down is more due to lack of motivation/despair/frustration plus the larger inclusion of the above mentioned influx in the sample.

Juri
Juri
Reply to  Durendal
4 years ago

Genetics and Darwin theory. Those in the West who wanted to fight and die, died. Those who avoided the conflict, obeyed and, survived reproduced.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Juri
4 years ago

Think of all the high quality Western white men that were lost and degraded in WW1 and WW2.

For the US you can add in Korea, Vietnam, and the Endless ME wars.

Russia lost quite a few guys in Afghanistan.

Meanwhile, the brown and black parts of the world were largely untouched.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

I’ve often thought the same. The two world wars in particular, were a disaster for the White race and western civilization. And now here we are, evidently going gentle into that good night.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

Probably less than you think. Armies tend to promote the best and brightest, and let the duller ones have the front lines. While it’s true that many good men died in the world wars, it’s also true that those who lead the armed forces also do their best to manage human resources such that their best people can fight more than one battle, and in fact can see the end of fighting. More to the point, the US lost less than 300k in WWII, and lost less than 700k men to all wars in it’s history, total. Given that front… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Drew
4 years ago

Men who are willing to fight and die are quite rare as opposed to nerds who can debate. One only has to see how few white males will resist being bullied by Lefty thugs which goes farther back than you think. For example the Tea Party where some Lefty punk would intimidate a couple of dozen conservative males who let themselves be punked. It was a common occurrence. The men who do fight are not generally officer class(Academy types) but generally come from rural and factory worker class who are used to harsh environments. BTW those men have to be… Read more »

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

Look, my point was in reply to someone else who said, ” Think of all the high quality Western white men that were lost and degraded in WW1 and WW2.” While the numbers might be large for Europeans, that can’t be for America. America’s casualty rate in both those wars was vastly lower than any European nation’s casualty rate, yet America is more fucked. QED, our involvement in the world wars is a small or non factor in explaining the lack of quality men in this day and age in America. Whatever problems modern American men have, it has precious… Read more »

Oldtradesman
Oldtradesman
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

Prior to the Vietnam War, the families of most intellekshuals sharing their intellekshaulism on this blog would not have had the money to qualify as “cream of the crop.”
Others forget that military deaths during the American Civil War was approximately 650,000, having a more detrimental effect on the South than the North.

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Sid
Sid
Member
Reply to  Juri
4 years ago

Evolution occurs over a thousands and tens of thousands of years. I suspect we still have a large reservoir of killers. Time will tell

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Juri
4 years ago

You could also say however that more aggressive or crazy people tend to have more children. So over time you could get more aggression with war as the outlet. The less risk adverse you are the less likely you are to wrap it up or take the pill. War could be the Darwinian reaction to the natural build up of crazies.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

No, war is a result of the ruling class going insane(WWI and WWII).or getting greedy(Rome’s Patrician class)
Look at our wars from the Spanish-American to Afghanistan. Most were elective aimed at building a empire or commercial gain. The people in general had to be goaded into supporting thesese operations.

B124
B124
Reply to  Juri
4 years ago

Idk, at least in Canada there was the conscription draft. You had no choice. So a whole range of men were fighting and dying, not just high quality alpha men.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  B124
4 years ago

Perhaps, perhaps not. Who are the first to leave the trench and go over the top? Who are the first in the line of fire? For that matter, who are those men whose modern MOA is ground pounder, rather than supply personnel? But I have no studies to back the above up. Your conclusion is as likely I guess.

AntiSocialMedia
AntiSocialMedia
Reply to  CompscI
4 years ago

With the caveat that I don’t recall where I read it, my understanding that in WWI the British officers who lead the charges had a much higher attrition rate, as well as being significantly more intelligent than average. They had to lead.
Take that for what it’s worth, but I would tend to this world wars inflicted untold damage in the long run .

TomA
TomA
4 years ago

The “Comfort First Imperative” is born of the extreme affluence that has dominated our society for nearly half a century now. Most folks are living a very comfortable life of leisure; and the status quo is pretty doggone good. Hell, even our poor are obese and have cell phones. Real hardship has become extinct, as has natural culling of the herd. DNA pollution is accelerating, and colony collapse is the natural remedy. Not a trivial thing, that.

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ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

John Calhoun and The Rat Utopia experiment. Classic.

Vizzini
Vizzini
4 years ago

Assassination has become a thing of the past in our politics.

If you don’t limit it to presidents, James Hodgkinson recently tried to assassinate a bunch of Republican congressmen.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

Rand Paul and his deranged neighbor

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  whitney
4 years ago

The progs believed their own b.s. about a “super-killer cold virus”.

The Prez and his team were supposed to off in gouts of purple foam, writhing in public agony as befits the unbeliever.

It was a hit job…but they failed to kill the King.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  whitney
4 years ago

The chick pol in Arizona. Giffords?

whitney
Member
4 years ago

“Occidentals have become the panda bears of our species, happy to eat and sleep, but too disinterested in their own survival to reproduce or defend themselves”

I see this all the time in people walking down neighborhood streets. They walk with their back to the traffic and don’t turn around to even look at the car that’s approaching them it is absolutely bizarre to me this lack of interest in their own Survival

Edgar
Edgar
Reply to  whitney
4 years ago

Speaking of animal analogies, I’ve always been troubled by this kakapo one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGso1H7ZACU

whitney
Member
Reply to  Edgar
4 years ago

Very good!

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Edgar
4 years ago

That’s evolution for you.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  whitney
4 years ago

My theory is there are simply too many people that the value of the individual has decreased significantly If there are only 500 people, each death is a big deal Keep increasing the number and people seem pretty much disposable. And people start to manifest their worthlessness by behaving in non-survivalist ways, like they are simply waiting to die or become a statistic. The NPC effect is real. I was driving around with my son in San Diego and we were just noticing that people are not exactly people but types. There’s the “white guy” — they all dress and… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  whitney
4 years ago

Not to mention walking into traffic whilst absorbed in their sail foams.
Also, it seems people are no longer interested in stopping at stop signs.

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G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
4 years ago

Ease and comfort. No real significant middle class neighborhoods have been torched. I don’t even think the retards of the radical left have the intelligence to do anything but throw a temper tantrum. And the idiocy of the progressives was shown last night in the conversation between the two progressive Bill Maher and Adam Schiff. Maher was bitching to Schiff about the exodus from California and the pot holes in the streets. Neither one are self aware enough to maybe think the problem is progressive policies where elites live like monarchs and millions of third worlders drain the budgets. Of… Read more »

Diversity Heretic
Member
4 years ago

One of the most interesting cases of the effectiveness of terrorist violence was the Washington “sniper,” John Mohammed (if I recall correctly) and his younger sidekick, whose name I have forgotten, Two guys with a specially-modified automobile and a scope-sighted AR-15 kept the Washington DC metropolitan area in a state of near-panic for a few weeks; I’m surprised that there hasn’t been a copycat incident.

Sandmich
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 years ago

The interesting thing about that, which was quickly forgotten, was how hung up law enforcement, and the Feds in particular, were that they were looking for their “lone nut ex-military white guy” suspect in those shootings. From what I read that guy was even stopped several times in the middle of the night, with expired tags and a kid who wasn’t his, but was always let go when he stated some lame excuse of some sort. Were it not for some third party from Oregon who somehow knew the perp he’d probably still be shooting people in the DC area.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Sandmich
4 years ago

The interesting thing about that, which was quickly forgotten, was how hung up law enforcement, and the Feds in particular, were that they were looking for their “lone nut ex-military white guy” That was the peak of the, “profiling,” era where the FBI insisted they could locate suspects via the construction of psychological profiles. It was so widespread it made it into the movies and TV shows of the day. This was the technique that was used to haul Richard Jewell in for the Olympic bombing. They decided to destroy him rather than admit their techniques were crap after it… Read more »

MICoyote
MICoyote
Reply to  Sandmich
4 years ago

You forgot the “White van” that they were suppose to be using.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 years ago

I was just thinking about that. One interesting this is that the cops had no idea about solving the case, except that he got his manifesto published. The manifesto linked a murder in Alabama and the case unraveled from there. I grew up in the area and followed it closely – most of the shots seem to have been less than 150 yards. Pretty simple, and the police were busy chasing the wrong car the whole time.

B124
B124
4 years ago

The rest of the world, which seems more violent and aggressive, is simply a few steps behind, this is true. Non-whites come to canada/usa and get pozzed. My Asian acquaintance the other day was telling me how him and his gf plan to never have kids, because it is too much effort. A Muslim acquaintance (Indian) was saying how it’s important that we confront and challenge homophobia. South Korea and increasingly all of Asia has even lower fertility rates than whites. to me, it’s clear that white people are the only group with a significant % of people who have… Read more »

Sandmich
Reply to  B124
4 years ago

There was an article I read quite some time ago that made a persuasive case that the Japanese people could go extinct in a couple hundred years, and without any outside influence. I think the idea of the piece was that once a society becomes “top heavy” in age it puts downward pressure of fertility rates which means that the top-heavy-age issue is never resolved. Add in modern sloth, and rinse lather repeat for a couple generations and pretty soon there’s nobody left.

Member
Reply to  Sandmich
4 years ago

Sandmich: This is terrible news for the sushi industry, and great news for tuna.
Seriously, though, the possibility that a homogeneous population could collapes, due to increase age and reduced fertility seems real.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  billrla
4 years ago

It could collapse. I’m not sure it’s a bad thing. Gotta figure out something else that works. These are problems, among others, that humans haven’t had to deal with before. Similar ones existed in the past, sure, but it’s not 1:1 parallel.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Forever Templar
4 years ago

These are problems, among others, that humans haven’t had to deal with before.”

Boy howdy, you can sure say that again!

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Sandmich
4 years ago

Who can say? My pet theory (go ahead, have at me) has to do with population density and the “too many rats in the maze” phenomena. Asians are better at this than Westerners, who seem to need breathing room.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  RoBG
4 years ago

Lebensraum, dontchaknow…

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Sandmich
4 years ago

They won’t go extinct, Instead a replacement population will take over the land and build a lower tech agrarian society same as baring genoicde the Amish and Ortho types will here.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

AB, yeah, looks like it. After we go back to subsistence farming, we will then obtain population balance by having more children—also known as farm hands—and dying at the ripe old age of 45. Sigh.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  CompscI
4 years ago

It sucks but the amount of energy we use is not sustainable. The only reason we aren’t in worse shape is a combination of fracking and ironically the new depression.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Sandmich
4 years ago

Theres more to the birth rate problem than low birth rates and too many old people.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Sandmich
4 years ago

Isn’t it simply a “collapse” to a more sustainable level?

A deflation, really, as the ever-breeding South will see a true Collapse. They’ve outstripped their food and water.

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Horace
Horace
Reply to  B124
4 years ago

“We always attack white people for being cucks, but we provide the most resistance.”

White women have withstood the most intensive pervasive agitprop campaign in human history designed to get them to erase their own civilization better than the women of any race would have.

B124
B124
Reply to  Horace
4 years ago

Yep, and white women are the least likely group to marry outside their race. Even white men inter-racially marry more often.

Makes me sick to see the white woman hating going on in some altright circles.

Memebro
Memebro
4 years ago

There is a large underground cavern lake in Tennessee that has harbored a blind, albino trout for thousands of years, if memory serves. Losing sight and pigmentation is not at all uncommon with such animals that are trapped inside of an isolated ecosystem where skin pigments and eyesight are useless wastes of biological energy.

This is essentially what has happened to western men, white men, trapped within the confines of our modern abundance, technology, and democratic diversity. Use it or lose it.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Memebro
4 years ago

Cultural and psychological atrophy and entropy.

David Wright
Member
4 years ago

So we don’t go out with a bang but with a whimper.

Maybe allowing us to vent in comment sections is a good release valve. That and opiates, alcohol, mass entertainment, social media.

B124
B124
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

DissRight social media allows us to make less of an effort to connect IRL. If I couldn’t talk to you here, I would probably be much more active seeking people out.

Same way that people are having less sex in the post-Tinder era than in the pre-Tinder one. People are lazy.

If tptb were actually concerned about D-right they would just shut us all down, like they did to alex jones.

JustaProle
JustaProle
Reply to  B124
4 years ago

Isn’t Jones still posting at IW? How was he shut down?

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  B124
4 years ago

Richard Spencer, despite being “the next Hitler,” still freely posting his Vote Biden memes. Hmmmm.
His pals at Arktos still selling books at Amazon. Makes ya wonder.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

Or maybe not at all. If a fire is raging, are you more likely to survive if you a) put as much distance as possible between you and the fire or b) stand close to the fire with a bucket full of accelerant waiting for the perfect moment to pour it on? All fires consume themselves eventually, so why be nearby with flammable material? Letting nature take it’s course may not be sexy or heroic, but it’s a really wise way to live.

WeShallSee
WeShallSee
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

We’ll see if its Bang or Whimper in about a month. I’m betting on Whimper, but would quite welcome Bang.

William Williams
William Williams
Reply to  WeShallSee
4 years ago

At least, in the event of a Biden win, National Review will still be available to organize a principled opposition.

Paul
Paul
4 years ago

Well, let me throw a (metaphorical) stinkbomb into your breakfast cereal: I think that the west’s universalist religion, which might have been an asset in the past, has become a crippling, deadly burden. Take China as a contrast. I’ve worked there for extended periods of time. They’re not exactly devout in their religion any more. Just accompanying mom to the temple, stuff like that. But their “religion,” such as it is, doesn’t have any universalist bullshit that obscures their racial solidarity. And many of their gods are just deified real people from centuries past–their people, making their religion a kind… Read more »

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  Paul
4 years ago

China is on course to become home to more Christians than any country in the world by 2030.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Tykebomb
4 years ago

that’s a good sign, it means chinese folk are not evil borgs like many people make them out to be

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JustaProle
JustaProle
Reply to  Paul
4 years ago

Similar, perhaps, to the Halls of Valhalla? Serious question as I’ve never been to China.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Paul
4 years ago

But our churches are empty! And as the Boomers die off, even more empty. I don’t deny that people are looking for a new organizing principle, just that we are not sure what it will be and I’m pretty sure it won’t be the universalist religion of the past you decry.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  CompscI
4 years ago

I’m pretty sure it won’t be the universalist religion of the past you decry.

You are right, it will be far far worse than even that.
We are 100% sure what it will be because it is already being adopted by the masses of the stupid. Woke is your new religion, you -have- been paying attention the last 4 months right? Z himself (among many others) has written manifold articles about how this is clearly the new secular cult of the west.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Woke is your new religion

This is exactly correct.

Woke is a heretical evolution of Christianity without all the hokey Jesus and Mary stuff.

Instead, Woke worships cool black criminals like Fentanyl Floyd and anime babes like Corona-chan.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Woke is a derivative of Christianity

A caricature of it in some ways, the primary colors version for the stupid

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

I’m not talking about the lost idiots we discuss with great frequency. I’m only concerned with the salvageable folk who have not yet crossed over to the DR.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

But woke is provoking anti-woke. It will never become the uncontested organizational dynamic of the West. At most, it will become preponderant rather than dominant.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Woke ideology is the collective suicide note of a spiritually despondent people.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Anonymousse
4 years ago

Fortunately, most of us are not so despondent as to resort to the race treason called woke.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Its a chaotic function with far too much of a shifting hierarchy and far too many mentally ill and highly dysfunctional adherents to dominate.
Its more akin to a cult albeit a dangerous one.
Early Chritians had some real lulu’s in their midst but most were basically a lot like us, often low rankers ,smart and more than capable of action or subversion as needed.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Paul
4 years ago

Why the Romans hated Christianity

Only reason it survived is when it incorporated the necessity of violence into its teachings

B124
B124
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

That is the one thing that struck me – Christianity has many good teachings but is a little too soft. Were I to write my own religious book it would basically copy the Bible but sometimes violence from men is required too, we can’t just sit around and wait for God to deal with it.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  B124
4 years ago

They kept the Muslims at bay for a 1000 years. And what did our Pagan-secularists do? Undid all that work in a couple generations.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

Very true. Christianity has a robust martial history. Only during modernity and postmodernity was Christianity emasculated, and, in turn, became an emasculating agent.

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  B124
4 years ago

Christianity is exclusively for the next life. Trying to make it a societal project in the present is civilizational suicide. The meek may inherit the earth, but not this time around.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  ronehjr
4 years ago

Meek, as used in the Gospels, means “power under control”. In other words, not just random, wanton violence, but wielding authority when necessary to maintain the common good. Wield it for nefarious purposes, you will eventually fall; fail to wield it when and to the extent necessary, same result.
St. Paul explicitly states this. What has happened to Christianity is that, like every other institution, it has become poisoned with modernism.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

“Romans hated Christianity”

A few emperors, the worst and most corrupt in Roman history, were listening to neocon rumors about a vast right wing conspiracy, backed up with large political donations, loans, and ‘property development’.

Plus, of course, expanded immigration, foreign trade, taxes, welfare, and slaves.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

In addition, the animal trainers and traders, the gambling houses and brothels, built upon the entertainment complex of the circuses. A long history of overrepresentation in Rome.

Yet, one God was cast down, and Another raised. They are not one and the same, nor is the descendent subservient to the prior, but to a higher Power still.

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ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Paul
4 years ago

Their religion is materialism. But since their own government caused tens of millions of deaths with living memory, I can’t say I blame them. (See: Great Leap Forward, 5 year plans, and the Cultural Revolution)

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Paul
4 years ago

Yeah I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that christians are overwhelmingly on the right and atheists are overwhelmingly LGBT dogmoms. Certainly abandoning our foundational cultural heritage is the way to reestablish our civilization… that also very coincidentally became garbage when it abandoned christianity in the first place

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Anonymousse
4 years ago

Christianity gave us the works of Michaelangelo and Atheism gave us PissChrist and Annie Sprinkle. Not to mention Marxism and all of it’s evils.

One of Many Georges
One of Many Georges
4 years ago

Yeah, we just got soft.

The million-dollar question is: when we see the real endgame coming, can we un-soft in time?

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  One of Many Georges
4 years ago

“can we un-soft in time?”

It took me about 10 years to learn basic life-skills that my great-grandparents knew as children … e.g. how to extract food from dirt; how to develop water systems. And those old-timers lived in a community-intensive, high trust society. I think the answer to the million-dollar question is a big fat NO.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  CAPT S
4 years ago

Question it seems to your comment is “How did you learns such ‘skills’?” Did you need to discover them yourself, or simply become motivated/lucky enough to find others to teach you such? I’ve always retained the belief that if there remains a nucleus of those with such survival skills, then in short order—if motivated—we can learn from them. Certainly we see examples of such in daily life—the military takes a recruit and in boot camp creates a soldier with some ability to stay alive in conflict in a matter of a few weeks. Obviously, future training needed that involves higher… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  CompscI
4 years ago

People who teach those skills strike me as dubious sorts, like those “ex Seals” who teach survival at camps. Always an “ex” something or other, but like musclebound guys who work out in a gym but can’t pick up and carry a sofa, there is something manufactured about them

Men we can trust, just because they have our best interest at heart and not making a buck off us, where did they go?

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

I hear ya. Lot of grifters out there. I’ve had contact with such myself. But I’ve also had contact with others not of that ilk. Such as discharged Marines/Rangers and such in groups I’ve been in. They are happy and willing to teach tactics in the field—and why not—if you can’t keep their back, you are a danger to them and the entire group.

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  CompscI
4 years ago

It was a combination of book-learning and talking with like-minded folk; heavy emphasis on the former. This minimizes failure but doesn’t eliminate it. Life-skills require experimentation and occasional deviation from orthodoxy; i.e. you just have to get the hands dirty and never stop learning.

I’ve tried teaching a few people who came to me with questions. Most didn’t have the patience; i.e. they quickly defaulted back to buying “Great Value” milk vice learning how to care for a milk cow. To each his own … until crisis hits.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  CAPT S
4 years ago

Necessity is the mother of invention.

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Yep. People can learn these skills very quickly when necessity dictates.

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  T. Morris
4 years ago

Necessity is based on the NOW. Today there’s no necessity for gardening because we have supermarkets and a wonderful distribution network. Disrupt that paradigm and within 72-hrs there will be a crisis of necessities. At that point the pithy cliches are worthless … you’re just f’ing hungry. Learning about food cultivating takes a lot of homework, topped by a LOT of labor, and if you’ve got your act together, should produce food in 3-4 months. And depending on CONUS location, much of it has to happen between March and Oct. And that’s just the food piece of the equation. Power?… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  CAPT S
4 years ago

I grew up with chickens, geese and alot of neighbors had cows. I was constantly shanghaied into loading hay etc. We all hunted and dad had dogs. Buy foxfire books and watch youtube instruction videos. Any idiot can keep a goat or chicken population. Barring a catastrophic collapse one can ease into it. I can perform some vet skills and wife is a doctor. Those skills good if shtf. Physical gold or making spirits would also be useful. Mechanical/welding ditto. Catastrophic collapse more dicey. I have guns and rough buddies. If the flag went up i would not be above… Read more »

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
Reply to  One of Many Georges
4 years ago

I know some preppers who are fat, if you can wrap your head around that. You can have all the high-speed gear you want, but going from 3500 calories per day to closer to 1200 might be the best place to start preparing for the future.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Joey Jünger
4 years ago

Prepping is LARP for probably 75% of those people for one of the main reasons you mentioned. It is also why you see these ‘militia’ guys coming out in their tacti-cool gear with their big beer guts bulging out from under the tac-vest and their hamhock legs & arms blubbering out. It is literally the worst optics possible and it almost feels staged except I’m pretty sure it is real because I’ve met a few of those guys over the years and they are pretty much like that. Fat + well supplied + immobile because you are defending your ‘stash’… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

They walk two or three blocks, but then need a can of coke or something from the insulin shock.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

A lot of these tactic-cool guys, with their “muh guns” , what they going to do to protect those guns if someone comes and takes them? Or sets their place on fire? They don’t have n real armory. Just a ranch house. There has to be more to fighting that just the tools of war. You have to have brains and fitness too

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Yep. I’ve said repeatedly here, “If you have ‘tits’ you’re worthless!”—but I was never talking about women.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Exhibit A: “Saint” Kyle

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Little baby fat is nothing. Fuck you guys, Kyle is a stud. He has almost made me believe in divine providence. I get a kick out of watching “naked and afraid”. As a guy that has been wet and cold when camping; will maintain that it is brutal. Fat melts off the chubbies. Have also marveled how tough some of them are and that you really can’t predict which ones will be tough. Some of the women in particular have greatly surprised me. That said only 2-3 have done more than limp across the 21-40 day mark. i.e only 5%… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

I watched that show a couple of times. Kind of wondered why the people didn’t first thing rig up some shoes or sandals. And yes I know its not telegenic and carries some risk but unless it wasn’t allowed, wouldn’t you cake yourself in dirt or mud as this lowers sun burn risk.
I never see that either.

Raynard
Raynard
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Yes, it does look funny to see fatties in all that gear. But compared to what? Fatties with no guns? I have no problem with any person getting some basic competency in protecting themselves. Maybe they wont be very effective, but so what? Again what is the alternative? isn’t their a quote of Solzhenitsyn onthis topic? If only the police thought they were taking their life into theirs hands when they went to arrest people?

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Raynard
4 years ago

Spot on. They will be better than the DR nerd smoking a swisher and who gets off throwing other whites under the proverbial bus.
Yeah the fatties have their issues but if they step up when the time comes, that’s all you can ask of a man.
And if they take out a couple of goons each before going down they will have done more than a ten thousand smug DR types will ever do with a keyboard.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

And I can guarantee you that blubbery Billie Earl will still be a better soldier than TyQu’an Doe, just because he has a brain and is amenable to discipline.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Raynard
4 years ago

 From the authorities’ point of view it is easier to write reports for a living, with the emphasis on living. 😀 (Credit to Gary North)

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Raynard
4 years ago

In a real crisis its pretty easy to get fit and can be done with no supplies.
Try fighting without weapons. Its not easy.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Perhaps most important, you have to have the will. I believe the will is there, but it’s buried pretty deeply below the surface. At some point, however, it will come wriggling to the surface. Then, look out…

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

“a true SHTF scenario”

this entire idea is an absolute LARP. Even African joggers instantly band together pool resources and form defacto local governments. This hobbesian dream of a protracted house to house subsistence free for all is crazy. Literally never obtained in human history, basically a theory of social disorder formed entirely by zombie movies.

It’s another sign of our crazy atomized society that people envisioning disaster actually think in this ludicrous way

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  One of Many Georges
4 years ago

White men need massive doses of cultural Cialis.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

If by that you mean a common purpose, aye.
Ideology matters and while everyone in Our Thing is rightly down on Stalin and Communism and some are down on the Austrian also rightly , both of those men accomplished a hell of a lot, led nations and gave people purpose.
That is more than our “Republic of Consumers” is doing.
There are better ways that International or National Socialism to be sure but its up to use to make that clear.

Nationalist Christian
Nationalist Christian
4 years ago

You really don’t need to look farther than the US Army to see proof of this. They’re more worried about diversity and sexual harassment prevention than they are about training decent soldiers. There are so many officers and NCOs who don’t do anything BUT that. If they knew my political opinions, I would get a UCMJ.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Nationalist Christian
4 years ago

You’re not alone. Thirty years ago when I was in the army there was a Ranger and an SF qualified guy in my PLDC class who were two of the most-squared-away soldiers I ever met. The “Student for the cycle” award went to some female in the class, for no other reason than she was a female. Both of the aforementioned soldiers were constantly working with the rest of the class during the course, helping us with various tasks and sharing their knowledge of various subjects, while no one remembered ever seeing the female except at graduation. The shit the… Read more »

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Steve
4 years ago

My son got out 6 years ago. He was Airborne. Most of the fighting he did was to get out. He fought promotions, you name it. Once he sets his mind to a task, he stays focused, I’ll give him that. He didn’t think it had a future.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Nationalist Christian
4 years ago

The military is copying academia. Bizarre.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
4 years ago

When Chris Wallace brought up the Proud Boys during the debate I said “check please.” Nothing screams “we are no longer a serious country” like that question. At no point, of course, was the debt bomb addressed. This isn’t just a Gavin MacInness fan club. It’s one he abandoned as soon as the first allegation of white supremacy was made. It was like some Andy Kaufman like routine that got out of control. He may as well have been playing some based version of Tony Clifton. These poor atomized guys go to a bar to belong to something, get the… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
4 years ago

There’s definitely a farming operation going on, and the mass of western humanity has definitely been domesticated. You could argue industrialization built the farm and bred the herd. Like a farm boy who goes to college and becomes an engineer, tptb are moving up the economic ladder. They can auction off the farm and herd, because they make a living playing with machines now. Their progress is disaster for the herd. Of course there are people who weren’t domesticated, who’ve largely carved out their niche or gotten run over by the operation. Now that the herd is being driven to… Read more »

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

I think we were farmed to be the shock troops of anti-communism during the cold war and now that the left has taken over the reigns of American power, they don’t need us anymore. We were raised on faith to be self-sufficient and resilient mainly because, had the cold war turned out in the worst case scenario, they would have needed millions of young men who could survive the nuclear holocaust and still invade Russia with nothing but duct tape and pocket knife fanatically committed to the Republic. We were the people who would have done that enthusiastically. But the… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
4 years ago

Faith— that’s a good point. But there was also Nixon and Khrushchev and consumerism as the answer to communism, which was a big part of our demise, imo.

Cis Scum
Member
4 years ago

Africans are 500,000 years behind, evolutionarily speaking. That’s somewhat more than “a few steps behind.”

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Cis Scum
4 years ago

What’s more, I don’t think Africans were evolving in any meaningful sense. Give Africans another million years and they still wouldn’t have put a man on the moon. Heck, I’m not sure they would have even invented an internal combustion engine. Probably not.

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Nonsense. Give me totalitarian control of an african nation and i could get the average iq up to 120 in 150-200 years. Would require a lot of culling or forced sterilizations. Look at the dog breeds that have arisen in the last 400 yrs.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

That’s not evolution. It’s eugenics.

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

what is the difference? one is nature directed, one is human/rational. same program. nature is cruel and inefficient. i would be kind, even sentimental.

Sandmich
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

Not sure that would get you anywhere anyway. Where would China and Japan be were it not for the Industrial Revolution introduced by the west? Probably still farming rice in some feudal land system.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Cis Scum
4 years ago

I’d say a small band of Erectus survived the Neanderthal expansion.

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
4 years ago

Alternate non-fake version would be a few soros district attorneys would have been hung out to dry, avoiding the security issues of a high profile target. Whitmer would have spent the rest of her days orbiting her panic room. Mission accomplished.
On the other hand, perhaps the fake attempt was the threat. She could be made to disappear if the overlords tasked their henchmen with the chore.

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Sandmich
Reply to  Higgs Boson
4 years ago

In the age of conspiracies, that actually makes a great deal of sense. “Yeah we got ’em this time, but the next time our band of secret police make a plot like this we might be too slow to get to the phone”.

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  Sandmich
4 years ago

She’s way out of line, even by liberal lunatic standards.

Marko
Marko
4 years ago

After 9/11 I had wondered why there weren’t more terrorist attacks. Why would one just go for the big stuff? Plant a bomb at an Omaha mall one week; shoot up a bus in Nashville the next week. That’s terrorism. And Allah knows there were enough animated Muzzies to do so. That aside, despite all the anger online, I’m not surprised the only violence has come from lone wolves. Could it be enough people are “enslaved” to debt and job benefits that no one dares organize actual resistance? In 1900, the only real concern was finding food and water that… Read more »

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Marko
4 years ago

Interestingly, we haven’t even begun to see the downstream effects of the shuttering of the US economy. All the CARES act gibs are expiring right now. So if I’m already really pissed off from years of being grinded down mentally told I’m inherently evil, etc. plus I no longer have my sh1t tier wage slave job, and no hope of getting one again, and I’m now being evicted because of no job, etc. Get it? You take away the bread & circuses and inflict enough pain on a group of people who are already pushed up against the wall you… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

As Gerald Celente is fond of saying, “When people have nothing to lose they lose it!”

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

I thought the phrase went “When people have nothing to lose, they act like they have nothing to lose”.

Member
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Apex Predator: The blowback of the CARES Act “financial assistance programs” is really going to hit people when they discover that the IRS will not allow deduction of expenses paid for with CARES Act funds, such as PPP loans. So much for “loan forgiveness.” People are going to be hit with higher tax bills then they might otherwise have expected. As for the loan forgiveness, we’ll just have to see, because the Feds keep changing the rules.

B124
B124
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

600,000 white people have already killed themselves quietly and peacefully through opioid overdoses. Nothing is more cucked than going out like that. It’s all I will say to avoid fedposting.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  B124
4 years ago

These people were targeted by Perdue Pharma who went out their way to addict Americans. The Chinese followed suit by dumping Fentanyl into our country by the metric ton though our mail system.
Congress went out of it’s way to protect both.
Do you know you can order Fentanyl and Carfentanyl directly from China as well as any kind of designer opiate or steroid?
Do you know that Amazon and Ebay also launder money back to China and Mexico as well?
Most Americans have no idea how much the executive class hates the white American worker.

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

The chinese think it fair play for the opium war business. Read that 10% of chinese males were opium addicts at the height of their problems. Interesting the same tribe was involved in those events as of today.

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  B124
4 years ago

I’m a little surprised no one has made a run at the sacklers. Scum knew what they were doing with the safe if taken as directed scam. Must say i think you are a bit harsh on the victims. Broke my collar bone a while back and was give a prescription of Roxy’s for a month. Used them up in 2 weeks. Best two weeks of my life. Ground one down and mixed it with a jack and coke. wow. Harumph. wasn’t stupid enough to refill prescription but i can appreciate that they insidiously easy to get addicted to. Course… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

I see two possible endgames for the lockdown gibs. 1) The gibs are made permanent when people realize the economy isn’t going to recover. This means hyperinflation and the dollar becoming (more) worthless. 2) The gibs end and people get thrown out of their homes, can’t buy food, and massively default on their debt. I’m guessing the ruling class probably thinks option 1 is some sort of “controlled descent” into third world status for us while 2 is more of a sudden push. The problem with option 1 is that it devalues all the debt held by our banks. This… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  pozymandias
4 years ago

I see lockdown gibs as a test run for implementing Universal Basic Income (UBI) and Modern Monetary Theory (MMT).

I actually think they can kick this can for a few years before a dollar collapse.

If Harris is frauded into the White House I actually expect markets to pop on the idea that all Chinese trade restrictions get dropped and the Cloud People can resume the business of selling America out from under the Dirt People.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  pozymandias
4 years ago

The hyperinflation thing simply hasn’t happened, and I’ve come to doubt it ever will.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  pozymandias
4 years ago

Some of the damage is already done, just not apparent. Example, folks not thrown out of their homes/apartments does nothing for the landlord who has to pay the mortgage to the bank. Thousands upon thousands of such “real estate tycoons” are leveraged to the hilt, and the string of non-payment of rent has in effect bankrupted them. Banks have been patient so far on foreclosures—assuming (falsely) that the tenants in arrears will pay up when the economy reopens. But as the arrears start to approach 6 months, who the hell is going to pay, or can pay such an amount?… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  CompscI
4 years ago

Few, if any politicians gave serious thought to the downstream consequences of their actions – those that are apparent or becoming so and those yet to manifest themselves. In my opinion, the economy has been wrecked and now we’re all just along for the ride to see how it plays out.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

But the 1% are so much richer, and they buy the politicians, so isn’t the system working as designed?

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  RoBG
4 years ago

It works until it can’t work any longer. At that point, the rich become targets of opportunity for the masses. That’s the great dilemma in my mind. How could these folk be so blind as to let it deteriorate to that point?

William Williams
William Williams
Reply to  CompscI
4 years ago

If the Infotainment ‘n’ Freebies State falters, TPTB are confident that the military and police, and massive propaganda, will keep a lid on 98% of the population. The outliers can be dealt with via legal or extra-legal force.
They don’t call it a “police state” for nothing.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Marko
4 years ago

Agreed. I kept think about how simple it would be to implement these sorts of attacks. On the other hand, there were some. San Bernardino, Orlando, Ft. Hood, some others. France had plenty. Maybe there aren’t that many suicidal types out there.

AntiSocialMedia
AntiSocialMedia
Reply to  Marko
4 years ago

Frankly I think the Muslims only need to establish themselves as a protected class, and their leaders will not transfer to the “medina” or more aggressively violent phase – which is inevitable – when they are demographically situated to do so.
This strategy has been very explicit if you listen to leaders like Ergodan of Turkey.

RoBG
RoBG
4 years ago

Have you ever noticed how common the term “far-right” is used by MSM, while they never describe groups sporting the Hammer-and-Sickle as their logo and calling for “no USA at all” as hard-left. To say that there’s no organizing behind this beggars belief. As does the emergence of “bail funds” in the places where the mostly peaceful protests riots occur. As did the out-of-state money that flowed into the coffers to elect leftist DAs.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  RoBG
4 years ago

It’s Soros and the CCP.

Millie Weaver is putting out a documentary about one of these NGOs that she and her team Infiltrated.

The level of organization they found is frankly a bit terrifying.

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

I think Soros is the spear catcher, a front. I would like to see the second layer beyond him.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

So then the coof might very well be one large piece of a coordinated multi-front attack.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  RoBG
4 years ago

Possibly a bit of organization, but definitely a whole lot of funding. The two are not the same, though.

AnotherAnon
AnotherAnon
4 years ago

” Occidentals have become the panda bears of our species, happy to eat and sleep, but too disinterested in their own survival to reproduce or defend themselves.” The quickening turnaround time between the invention of and the product launch of new Progressive identity groups guarantees a drop in reproduction of the species. As the pool of marriagable age persons shrinks, so does the number of children it is possible for functional persons to turn out. Those persons deeply ensconced in newly-minted identities have a tough road ahead finding suitable partners with decreasing prospects of being able to produce children at all,… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  AnotherAnon
4 years ago

Wish we were “almost there”. Trouble seems to be recruitment of foreign replacements for the progressives that die out to the exclusion of conservative replacements (if any even be found).

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
4 years ago

Men living in the West have seen their sperm counts drop by almost half in the last 40 years. Testosterone counts have also dropped almost as much. We are now producing a generation of males with the T counts of old women aka: Soy Boys. These are bad signs as men with low T counts are generally p***ies.with stick like physiques.like the guys at Buzzfeed. The military for example has a very hard time finding recruits that are physically fit enough to even join. Most fail or worse recruiters let in recruits that are going to fail no matter what.… Read more »

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

Well said, and if I might add: boys aren’t simply allowed to develop any more, either. They’re treated like defective girls from the beginning.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

Men living in the West have seen their sperm counts drop by almost half in the last 40 years.
pandering to skinny white women creates wimpy whites

slapping white women’s asses into shape creates virile whites

Whiskey
Whiskey
4 years ago

I disagree with your premise and Pinker, and the idea that material comfort of Whites precludes violence. Off the top of my head, recent Muslim violence in the West includes the Boston Marathon Bombing, the 2015 Christmas Party slaughter at San Bernadino, the Fort Hood Massacre, and various near-misses in Times Square and other places. In Europe, Charlie Hebdo, Manchester, Nice, etc. come to mind. There was last I looked an ongoing gun battle between Chechens and Algerians in Alpine France over who would control White prostitutes and the drug trade. Meanwhile, there was James T. Hodgstin (spelling?) the Bernie… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Whiskey
4 years ago

I wonder if ISIS boiled off a crap-ton of would be jihadis from the West?

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
4 years ago

Re soft targets and choke points.When I lived in NYC I was struck how, post 9/11, companies would still have people on street corners handing out free promotional samples of candies, mints, etc. A terrorist group could easily have killed more than the 3k who died on 9/11. I wonder if they still do that now that the coof has emptied out the sidewalks. Speaking of coof, the police/military guarding subway stations and conducting random searches were the masks and distancing of their day. It immediately occurred to me that a suicide bomber confronted by a cops “randomly” blocking the… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
4 years ago

There is a certain truth to the world, and that truth is that man is a born killer with a murderous propensity. There is no evolving away from it. This propensity can take on different forms depending upon the people and culture. A tropical people will emotively wield machetes as they run through a village. The Japanese school boy can go off after forgetting to add a decimal to his math test, killing the teacher and all the students who scored high than he did. Civilization exists at its heart to contain and or channel violence. The Antifa violence will… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

Forget the exact line, but there was a Updike book where he described a man biting into a hamburger. The glee in the man’s eyes biting into animal muscle revealed what we really are.

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William Williams
William Williams
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

As a pauper backpacker who was running out of money, I once found myself in a far-off land, and very hungry. When I saw a flock of chickens… my mouth instantly began watering.

Brace For Impact 2020
Brace For Impact 2020
4 years ago

“Another possible reason is people are becoming more docile and stupid.”

Here’s a short Youtube video that has a peace of the puzzle.

“What are Spiteful Mutants? Social Epistasis Amplification model.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxWx5w44kgQ

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370H55V
370H55V
4 years ago

“Another possible reason is people are becoming more docile and stupid. The latter is fairly well established. Not only is the demographic mix lowering overall intelligence, but the smart fraction is getting dumber as well. Organized political violence needs smart motivated people. Since the Industrial Revolution, western culture has selected against violence and force, in favor of cooperation. The result is a more docile population that is getting dumber with each generation.” All of which consistent with the pussification of our institutions from government to academia to the corporate world and even to religious bodies. What else would you expect from… Read more »

BTP
Member
4 years ago

It does seem to be true that the FBI and the rest of the enforcement agencies are very dumb. It seems they never solve anything except someone tells them who done it. McVeigh was caught because he didn’t bother to put a license plate on his getaway car and rented a truck in his own name, iirc. Similar thing with one of these Portland rioters whose mom left a review of the vest she bought him for the riot. I watched the miniseries about the FBI solving the McDonalds Monopoly game being fixed – they solved it simply because someone… Read more »

WeShallSee
WeShallSee
Reply to  BTP
4 years ago

A RAND corporation study of physical evidence gathered vs processed showed most simply isn’t processed. They would need to vastly increase the lab techs. Not just the FBI- all of them. Why bother? The prisons are bursting with diversity now? If I were a lab tech I’m damned if I’d convict a diverse felon, why get sued? Truth is most crimes most places are committed by a tiny number of career offenders, usually from same families. Its their trade. The police just need to step back and let nature take its course. As far as the politicization of the Feds… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

The kidnapping narrative has already fallen apart, Bezos’ Blog is reporting that the ringleader is an anarchist who attended a BLM rally and doesn’t like Trump:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/white-supremacist-narrative-unravels-whitmer-kidnap-suspect-attended-blm-rally-another

So, we are left with the possibilities that there aren’t many white supremacists, or their vetting processes and op sec are halfway decent.

Tom K
Tom K
4 years ago

Many years ago I found myself sitting in my truck waiting for a pedestrian to pass by on the sidewalk in front of me as I was entering a close-in suburban parking garage. This pedestrian was instantly recognizable. She was a feminist U.S. Congresswoman of a famously liberal district in this state. She seemed a little tentative as she walked along, looking around as though she didn’t quite have her bearings, but never once did she look at me.  This woman was a very high-profile politician not only in this state but across the country at that time. As you may… Read more »

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Tom K
4 years ago

Well, I was lying. I realize now upon further reflection that none of that was going through my head. What I was really thinking was ‘Don’t do it, don’t even gun your engine!’ All of that other stuff I made up later as rationalization. But still, it was sound intuition. I probably would have landed in a world of hurt if I had just rolled down my window and heckled her. Just doing that could have got me a lengthy jail sentence. She could have claimed anything and it would have been her word, a woman member of Congress, against… Read more »

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MBlanc46
4 years ago

You’ve got Westerners down pretty well. However, I doubt that the Chinese will be going peacefully.

el-porko
el-porko
Reply to  MBlanc46
4 years ago

I have often joked that after a nuclear war, there would only be cockroaches and Chinamen left. The Chinese simply possess the will to do whatever it takes to survive.

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  el-porko
4 years ago

Chinese culinary habits have prepared them to survive on cockroaches.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  el-porko
4 years ago

Don’t be surprised when the Chinese wind up just as soft and unwilling to rock the boat as anyone else. Look how easily the CCP bought them off for the transgressions at Tiananmen.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

So true. 2nd gen Asian Americans are the softest of the soft

Embarrassing

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

Chinese people have very few children and what boys that have in the middle and upper classes are so soft they are commonly called Little Emperors.
The rat utopia gets everyone

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

Yes, but China now has about 1B “useless” people to boil off. These folk live by subsistence farming and retain pretty much a lifestyle folks in the West abandoned 200 years ago. I’m no expert here, but I fail to see how it is problematic if the Chinese version of Ma and Pa Kettle have one child who grows up and leaves the half acre farm for a job in the city. Mom and dad grow old, die, and their farm is merged into something larger and more productive. I think of this as something along the lines of “right-sizing”.… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  CompscI
4 years ago

The idea that 1 billion Chinese are living a lifestyle akin to that of a century or two ago isn’t true. I was in Western China, and the backwaters therein, 20 years ago, and material comfort was widespread even then. The East is considerably further along. It’s not grinding poverty that sends the kids to the city; it’s ennui and the promise of a brave, new world.

Member
Reply to  MBlanc46
4 years ago

MBlanc46: They, too, will get fat and lazy. Just watch.

B124
B124
Reply to  billrla
4 years ago

Fertility rate is 0.8 in South Korea lol. That’s literally extinction. European natives (1.5) is almost double. South India is below replacement now almost at European levels. Japan has always been low. Thailand is as low as Italy.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  billrla
4 years ago

Outside of a few parts of the less developed world no one has high fertility. Parts of India even have low TFR Gradually as the remaining societies get TV, Internet and a basic comfortable living, they’ll join in too. This will leave the only fertile groups being religious zealots and a few nationalist/racialists who treat their views with religious fervor The other outcome is a mega die back from war, famine and thirst all of which are on the horizon now. Either way there will be many less people in a few centuries or less The trick therefore is to… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

The hapas and the asians, with their long conditioning in 3D thinking by ideograms, are latching on to machine-mind thinking fast.

Their joy and proficiency in tech is stunning. Can’t keep ’em down on the rice paddy now.

We are seeing rapid plateau evolution occurring here. Don’t count on an Amish level reversion. I mean, scythes against warbots?

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

China is one or two rainstorms away from no longer being a technological power. C.F Three Gorges Dam Also historically unless you share a border with them, the Chinese are perfectly happy to let savages be savages. Its highly unlikely they would care what West does if they becomes the predominate tech power. They’ve been like this before and basically left Gweilo -Laowai be savages. Regardless , no developed nation roughly tech at the level of regular TV and above for any length of time has above replacement fertility in the general population and no nation is able to get… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
4 years ago

What time is the Counter Currents Livestream?

Thought I saw 1 pm EST somewhere but now can’t find it

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

3pm EST

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  RoBG
4 years ago

ty

Yeah, I went to Z’s Gab feed and saw it. Counter Currents doesn’t post the time.

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

yeah, their lack of competent promotion drives me nuts. fucking goys.

Bigtony
Bigtony
4 years ago

perhaps we’ve just stopped believing in anything. Say what you will about men who believe (like sayyid qutb or any of our Muslim antagonists) these men are willing to out-escalate their adversaries through sheer force of conviction

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
4 years ago

Biology is reality.

“Testosterone levels show steady decrease among young US men | Urology Times” https://www.urologytimes.com/view/testosterone-levels-show-steady-decrease-among-young-us-men

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Higgs Boson
4 years ago

I thought Urology Times was the WaPo and Proctology Times the NY Times.

sentry
sentry
4 years ago

Occidentals have become the panda bears of our species, happy to eat and sleep, but too disinterested in their own survival to reproduce or defend themselves.
because there’s a plot to destroy european christian societies, there is one white nation, which isn’t christian and european that ain’t panda like
israel 3.11 births per woman
israel protects its border

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B124
B124
Reply to  sentry
4 years ago

Jews keep their women under control and their wombs full – what can I say? It’s based. We just need to do the same.

B124
B124
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

I should have said Israeli.

Sid
Sid
Member
4 years ago

Lol, This thread ought to be juicy.

Rhodok
Rhodok
4 years ago

Once upon a time, there were a people that found floodplanes and river valleys so they settled and live was good. This meant that the more restless among them became, well, restless and probably started “mucking about”. Luckily the masters assumed control and have domesticated them ever since. Today they are called “Chinese”.

History it seems is about to repeat itself… only this time the river valleys have been replaced with technology.

WeShallSee
WeShallSee
Reply to  Rhodok
4 years ago

Sadly this man has a point, but so does the guy who says whites are still resisting. Lets understand that European dislike of tyranny goes back a long time, even our most despotic regimes are a light yoke compared to the East.

Bilejones
Member
4 years ago

The Right increasingly seems to feel that violence is inevitable.
https://www.unz.com/article/yes-we-are-headed-for-violent-civil-war/

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Bilejones
4 years ago

Maybe the Saxon will begin to hate after all.

WindInThe Willows
WindInThe Willows
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

The Saxon is more inscrutable than any Oriental.

WeShallSee
WeShallSee
4 years ago

Well Mr. Doloff disagrees with you.

The reasonable man from Denver.

He shot a Patriot Prayer guy.

Some of you may now snicker that the PP deserved it for daring to act up in public.

Doloff is charged with 1st degree murder. Doloff will I think walk.

It is true the PP guy pepper sprayed him when Doloff pointed a gun at him. > therein his defense.

Silly Patriot. He should have had a reasonable conversation.

He also should have gone home and Bred children. More slaves is how we win. Right?

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  WeShallSee
4 years ago

I don’t understand you guys who supposedly think the white race is excellent but then think when whites make lots of babies they are merely breeding “slaves” or “meat sticks” or whatever else terms you use.

Can’t have it both ways

B124
B124
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Psy-op shill.

Find a girl and bang without birth control until you are too old or she can’t put out anymore babies.

Priority number one for wn is to have as many white children as possible and raise them well.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  B124
4 years ago

1,000 upvotes

Yep, that’s my belief too

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  B124
4 years ago

No, yes, maybe. A young white guy should be strategic in his breeding. Sow your oats if you find yourself somewhere with weak child support laws. This will anger the racist here.. but whatever. If one find a 150 iq chinky girl that is willing i would personally go for it. One of my biggest regrets is not pursuing a unattractive girl (white, but plain) that i suspect was 140+ that showed interest in high school.If you want to settle down and protect a brood latch onto a smart practical girl if you lucky enuf to find one. I did.… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  SidVic
4 years ago

if white people are as amazing as we say they are, they will succeed in the breeding game like anything else. Have faith in you people lol

WindInThe Willows
WindInThe Willows
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Women have Babies.
Men fight.

There, fixed it.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  WeShallSee
4 years ago

Yeah, that scumbag will probably walk. Beth McCann, Soros puppet in charge of prosecuting. Denver police have already been instructed not to call him Antifa.

WindInThe Willows
WindInThe Willows
Reply to  Tom K
4 years ago

Pepper spray used by victim.
He walks.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  WindInThe Willows
4 years ago

Maybe. I have to walk back my previous comment however. Since it didn’t involve a minority, I predict DA will choose to prosecute. Use of pepper spray is not a reason to believe serious bodily injury or fear of life will result. Especially since several cops were within feet of this going down. Was use of a firearm his only option? No, watching the video the cloud of spray mostly missed the shooter. He could have retreated. I think the guy will be prosecuted and convicted of murder.

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Member
Reply to  WeShallSee
4 years ago

The things you need to do to produce lots of healthy and based white children are substantially the same things you do to form effective resistance groups with solid core values. Grounding in science, the classic literature of the West, physical training, survival skills, marksmanship, mental training in critical thinking… Now if you mean just having lots of kids and turning them over to the public schools and other aspects of Big Poz, well yes, you’re going to need to produce huge numbers of kids to have a chance at getting 1 or 2 to avoid becoming just more drug… Read more »

William Williams
William Williams
Reply to  pozymandias
4 years ago

“Only a FOOL allows his enemies to educate his children.”

  • Malcolm X
Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  WeShallSee
4 years ago

The victim died for nothing. Trump will throw people like him under the bus all day. Trump basically hates his base to a large degree and will turn on them in a NY second if we give him any trouble.
We have to understand there is no one in D.C. to help us.
this is why Z has been so adamant against open violence at this point in time.
We are at best limited to intel gathering and running Grey operations(which our side has failed miserably in)

WeShallSee
WeShallSee
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

Z is against anything but chat. Your time will never come, this is just a mastubatory Honeypot. > The Time is never…ever. I don’t advocate for violence, I say organize for self defense. one man in a fight is nothing, no matter how many guns he possesses he has only 2 hands. Mind you this page routinely has people posting remarks about decorating lampposts, line them up against a wall, etc. That is exactly what the white guy anarchists went down for in risible Governor Wretched kidnap plot. Somehow atomized individuals are ok, organizing for mere effective self defense is… Read more »

Montoir
Montoir
4 years ago

An off topic comment, but I read the article on the Nazi IQ tests. I find it ironic that though their leadership scored excellently on these tests, Nazi ideologues actually denied the validity of IQ testing, as Jews have the highest average IQ (second only to Far-East Asiatics).

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Montoir
4 years ago

jewish 115 iq is based on a study from 1957 of a wealthy private school. A similar study of a non-Jewish private school by the same author measured an IQ of 119.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

i do believe jews are smart, but the jewish elites aren’t smarter than the non-jewish white elites, probably slightly lower on the spectrum.

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sentry
sentry
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

that’s debatable, that over over representation has a lot to do with their immense influence.
i look at the chart below and i see countries like bulgaria(7 mill) and hungary(9.7 mill), but there is no israel(8.8 mill) in sight, i find that rather strange
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Member
Reply to  sentry
4 years ago

This kind of thing can be heavily influenced by what the national government prioritizes. Take a reasonably smart population and spend a lot of money on building an excellent math team and there you are. The really impressive thing on that chart is Russia and Hungary. Russia has 2/3 of the population of the US and does 3 times better. Hungary matches us with only about 10,000,000 people! Z is just talking about the way the curve shifts if you move the mean/mode a bit. You really notice the effect if you look at how many people there are at… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  sentry
4 years ago

romania?

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Hate to trouble you, Z, but will you please publish your evidence for the notion that Jews are smarter on average? This way we can parse through the raw data and determine whether we agree or disagree with your conclusion.
 
I am willing to post my evaluation of the data here if you will assist me.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

even the paper admits sephardic and other oriental jews are not smart, yet they’re very successful people for some reason, which is strange. point is it’s unfair to compare average european to ashkenazi cause ashkenazi represent upper echelon of jewish tribe, study should take elite whites(from each country) and compare them to ashkenazi, otherwise include all groups of jews in study. Sorry to disappoint researchers but not all spanish, italians, ukrainians etc share the share dna features, yet they’re all put in one group, while smart jews get separated from dumb jews, not to mention eastern europe is filled with… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

i’d say there are plenty non ashkenazi jews who live in brooklyn and other such areas that are wealthy.
then there’s also the brahmin who apparently have  110-122 iqs, very easy to get these big iqs when smart people separate themselves from the plebs of their own nation.

Yman
Yman
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Funny because Jewish supreme intellect will be the very reason why racial integration is stupid
And the very reason for Jewish success is they are a closed society
No one knows actually who they are

But I will push other idea that colonial white people have superior intellect than any others
Since we still ride cars, trains, planes
As a biologically term that most important thing of Reproduction is recipe of quality

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
4 years ago

Vox day did a very(overly imo) skeptical take on the subject if you can find it.

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

As a scientist will disagree gently. Think 115 is probably optimistic- and it is based on one small study. 75%, if not more, of being a big-wig science stud is political; and attracting resources. Getting grants, or rich benefactors in the old days, is a major factor in moving science forward. Politics. On the other hand, part of americas genius, lies in the fact when we needed the moon, and the soviets were breathing down our necks we had a bunch of nazi rocket scientists (with german accents) heading our programs. Not to mention a german jew sociopath (kissinger) running… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

can agree completely. Nonetheless, still maintain our women are more attractive, heh.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

To be precise the Jews are SMART, TRIBAL, NEPOTISTIC and AGGRESSIVE.
This is a very powerful combo. The fact is they don’t even have to be top dog intellectually when you factor in the other attributes. For example look at the Gypsies and Irish Travelers. They aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed but they do very well for themselves thanks to their tribal loyalties.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Rwc1963
4 years ago

this was basically my point all along

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

But their soaring architecture!

The art, the music, the machinery!

That armor, those weapons!

The astronomy, the early medicine, the profound cosmological speculation! The endless chain of basic inventions!

Second raters, since forever.

Piggybackers and highjackers.

Focused, adept, and relentless in a narrow ecological niche, true- but we were gods to them. Their copying is but a poor caricature.

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ronehjr
ronehjr
4 years ago

Revolution requires a certain amount of trust. Trust requires a certain amount of familiarity. Hey Zman, want to go blow up some government stuff?…………

Didn’t think so.

WeShallSee
WeShallSee
Reply to  ronehjr
4 years ago

Yes – that’s the point of this blog, and the online Right; do nothing.

The Left us just simply less Bitch than the Right, winner by default.

Ask Doloff. Now there walks more man than thee, all 145lbs of him.

Falcone
Falcone
4 years ago

Even dogs are getting more passive

or is that because they mirror us?

Donny Corleone
Donny Corleone
4 years ago

I haven’t seen this reported anywhere but this exact same kidnap/trial/execute scenario was posited by Aesop of Raconteur Report fame. He said that he took about twenty minutes to cobble it together and it was just one scenario which may be plausible in a theoretical sort of way. I am no fan of Aesop, but this just seems a tad too convenient and therefore this whole fuster cluck is probably a fedgov concoction which entrapped some gullible “right wing white supremecists” who were stupid enough to fall for it. Just my two cents worth but smarter minds than I could… Read more »

William Williams
William Williams
Reply to  Donny Corleone
4 years ago

That was my first reaction also (a Fed operation, ultimately derived from on-line speculations).

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
4 years ago

A lot of the commentators on this post fall back on cliches the way Leftists with TDS do. As we have seen with this Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping story, which would make for an hilarious Netflix series a la Tiger King really, it’s Trump’s fault. The Leftists will always have an explanation that ends in Trump for anything. For a lot of people on this board, the default explanation for the decline of America, or anything really, is low quality immigrants and non-white people who lack the mental capacity to plan complex activities. More traffic accidents: non-white morons. Salmonella in the… Read more »

Bilbo Baggins
Bilbo Baggins
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
4 years ago

There’s a third narrative which is probably the dumbest of all: both arguments are equally valid. You’ve created a rule that TDS and HBD are equally delusional , but I see no evidence to support your view.When you’re comparing conceptual models remember that you are grading on a curve, you aren’t comparing them to some platonic ideal. Whose ideas are less imperfect? Who can best articulate their premise referencing factual examples? Another bad habit of yours is that you think in analogies and metaphors. Positions should be developed and understood with reasoned argument and then employ analogies,metaphors,allegories etc. to better… Read more »

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American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  Bilbo Baggins
4 years ago

No, I am all-in on HBD. I wasn’t trying to suggest we don’t all agree on that. But we have for years and years and years. Reading news stories on right wing oriented websites (even Fox News will poke that sleeping bear every once in a while when they want a bump in viewers) and always seeing the predicable “Muh HDB”, which I will admit I fell back on for years too because I was shocked that “climate science” is a thing but HBD is verboten, just isn’t heading anywhere productive. We know it’s true but now what.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
4 years ago

Agree that the ad campaign could use a refresh. Lord knows I bore people to tears with a one-note song, because I honestly have so little of value to add.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
4 years ago

Except for that little detailed called Objective Reality you should visit some time.
We -are- being invaded by low IQ morons. They are objectively more stupid than Europeans and do cause all manner of problems from this lack of IQ / future time orientation / etc. Go spin the globe and point to a brown country. Find one that functions as efficiently as a white nation.
But Trump causes more hurricanes, and is a Nazi, and caused (insert leftist idea here), etc. is a bit more ‘subjective’.

You false equivalency smacks of sh1tlib false equivalency. Thanks for playing though…

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RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
4 years ago

Leave aside for a moment the “ourselves and our posterity” intent of the Founders, you only have to look at the various studies of welfare use by immigrants; attitudes towards the 1st and 2nd amendments, crime, etc., to understand that we ought to have been and be a lot more choosy about who we let in.

Barnard
Barnard
4 years ago

There were legit attempts by Muslims to assassinate both Dick Cheney and George HW Bush while they were in the Middle East. No one fired a shot a Clinton, but there was the guy who crashed a small plane on the White House lawn trying to take him out. This crazy guy also murdered a woman in South Dakota with plans to keep killing people as he drove across the country until he got to D.C. where he planned to kill Obama on a golf course. I assume it isn’t included on the “threats to Obama” page because he never… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
4 years ago

Nice Z-man piece on Taki’s site:
https://www.takimag.com/article/the-absurdity-of-steve/

Ivar
Member
4 years ago

Z, I’ve thought for years that most of the human species are evolutionary failures. The big brain has allowed us to dominate the planet, but the cost appears to me to outweigh the benefit. We constantly have to feed those big brains. A stone age society, with primitive weapons and a low IQ, is still sufficient to occupy one of the top positions in the food chain. American Indians were more of less static in technological development, yet they rocked along just fine for thousands of years before the Prometheans showed up.

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Reply to  Ivar
4 years ago

Every species is a evolutionary failure, no? What is evolutionary success, and where is it? How do you measure evolutionary success? Survival? Happiness? If a species is smart enough to make the wheel and fire and tools then he is smart enough to know that he will one day die, his mother will die, and that to live is to suffer and to enjoy, in vastly disproportionate measures.

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Grace
4 years ago

I enjoyed listening to you and Greg Johnson converse on the linked site @dlive,tv.com . You both melded well and made insightful points. Thank you for putting yourself out there on all the various platforms.

Vizzini
Vizzini
4 years ago

Hey! The Z man has a column up at Taki’s!

Note also that the url to his about page is

http://www.takimag.com/contributor/Christopher%20Zeeman/834/

So now we know that famed British mathematician Christopher Zeeman faked his death in 2016, moved to Baltimore, adopted an American accent and started his new life on the dissident right!

And he sounds damn good for 95!

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SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

ohh, how interesting

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exfarmkid
exfarmkid
4 years ago

Z – The Muslims in the USA are winning the breeding game by an order of magnitude, so they collectively feel no need to use violence.

FrenchRoyalist
FrenchRoyalist
4 years ago

A podcast with GregvJohnson?
The leader of pagan LARPers, selfish-old people pro mask, and zillions of articles about Evola, Guenon, Mishima (you bet!) and the laughable Alain de Benoist, this french “intellectual” which had confessed voting for Melenchon, the french Bernie?

Disappointing …

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  FrenchRoyalist
4 years ago

they have good podcasts

last week with Jim Goad was excellent