Election Reset

We are a little over three weeks from the most consequential election in the history of the republic, according to the media. In reality, this election will probably not be all that interesting or consequential. Few elections make much of a difference, when viewed in the grand scheme of things. The great fear of democracy was that it would lead to wild swings in public policy. In reality, democracy results in a shadow elite maintaining their preferred course, regardless of the election results.

There are some exceptions. In 1960, the Illinois Democrat Party rigged their election in favor of Kennedy. If Nixon had won, there is a good chance Vietnam would not have happened as it did, which would have changed the arc of the 60’s. The anti-war movement was the energy of the cultural revolution. It also means Johnson’s Great Society would not have happened. Probably something else would have been passed, but it would not have been that program.

Another consequential election was 1976. Ford could have beat Carter, as it was a very close election. The map of that election is very interesting in comparison to what we are looking at in this coming election. If Ford had won, he would have run in 1980, instead of Reagan, and he may have run again in 1984. If not, Reagan would have been viewed as too old at that point and too much of a yesterday man. The conservative movement would never have gotten off the ground.

One possible significance of this election is that a Trump loss puts the near-dead Biden in the White House until they kill him and install Harris. Let’s be honest with ourselves about this. The people who killed Epstein and Seth Rich are not going to flinch at snuffing out Joe Biden. Harris is so obnoxious that she will be voted out in the following election, regardless of who the GOP nominates. Biden/Harris will end up being the Jimmy Carter in this replay of history.

In that regard, the Left should probably hope Trump wins. They got rid of Nixon with the Watergate frame-up and the ’76 election, but that was their high point. What followed was a long decline of post-war liberalism. From the perspective of the Left, the mid-70’s through the mid-2000’s was a long winter. Thanks to the neoconservatives in the Bush years, the conservative consensus shattered and the Left emerged from its long hibernation, but that was never a given.

As far as this election, when you strip away the massive psychological warfare campaign being waged on us, it is rather conventional. Everyone forgets that it was conventional wisdom four years ago that Trump would lose in a blowout. It’s like remembering how you felt about something long after the event. You can remember that you felt a certain way, but you cannot remember the actual feeling. The same is true for elections, it seems. We can recall the facts, but not the sense of it.

When you examine the facts of this election, it is looking a lot like the last election, but maybe more so, with regards to the polling. Look at the final polls from four years ago and the miss in key states was quite shocking. No one but Rasmussen has bothered to think much about why that happened. Odds are, the “shy Trump voter” is more of an issue this time. Four years of Trump voters being assaulted on the streets will make people much less willing to reveal themselves.

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  • 00:00: Opening
  • 02:00: Election Or Referendum
  • 12:00: History
  • 22:00: The Media (Link)
  • 32:00: Polling
  • 42:00: The Battleground
  • 57:00: Closing

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Rhodok
Rhodok
11 days ago

Well, for us, there is little difference in who wins. But for the clintons and their associates (incl obama) there is a lot riding on this election. A biden win will mean that they get away scot free… hence the commotion (so I believe)

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Rhodok
11 days ago

They were always going to get away scot free. With all the “bombshell” revelations regarding Comey, Brennan et al, there is nary a peep regarding anyone losing a job, pension or going to jail.
i wish what you say was true, but I don’t think there’s any chance that if Trump wins, heads will roll.
but then again, I guess we can dream.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
11 days ago

Even in the very unlikely event of a Trump victory, there will be no indictments. There were never going to be any indictments.

miforest
Member
Reply to  MBlanc46
11 days ago

right now we should be thinking survival , the hope for justice is laughably naïve at this point.

Tablet Finder
Tablet Finder
Reply to  miforest
11 days ago

I hate to be rude about this, but the right showed itself to be monstrously incompetent at winning the future. So, what makes anyone think they’ll do the survival thing any better? Take a look at South Africa. That’s your future White males — living in extreme poverty, behind walls, or in fringe (near destitute) communities that could be destroyed at any moment by the national government. Of course, it didn’t have to be that way, but the right was too stupid and too lazy to have it any other, so that’s what they’ll get.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Tablet Finder
11 days ago

I said Nothing about the right. the GOPe has fought trump as much as the democrats have. Trump is not part of their big club and they find him a huge disruption to their planning. The rest of the GOPe is subservient to the dems. hence the “uni-party” that is often mentioned

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Rhodok
11 days ago

I think a Trump win matters. With Trump… at least the Dissidents will be heard. With Biden?
As our host so eloquently put it – this may be the wake up call the establishment needs to let them know the Dirt People ain’t happy… and they can do something about it.

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  Glenfilthie
11 days ago

We will be allowed to vote, that we will do anything beyond that is risible. Your plan is not unsound – the Ruling Class may indeed increase our welfare.

That’s it.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Glenfilthie
11 days ago

Ok, after listening to the podcast, I get why Z is calling this to be a relatively “normal” election, from the standpoint of where Trump more of less stands in the more credible polling – about where he should be – which I suppose is good news. The question in my mind is if he does win another close one, or it gets tied up in the courts for some length of time, how much more insane are the establishment and leftards in general going to get? Could this be the spark that ignites….something.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  usNthem
11 days ago

Yes…

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  Rhodok
11 days ago

Trump will hang on maybe if he wins. But he has no cards to play beyond elections, and lawyers. Trump was always counterflooding. Its time, not rescue. Truth is we’re too passive to be saved, too busy smack talking on line (a privilege that will remain, its a brilliant release valve. Online is political masturbation. Relief, but nothing will come of it). The hardest truth is that yes they’re coming for us all, and we remain a vast horde of heavily armed cowards. We just can only pray the Dems make a mistake. All the real decisions, all the real… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Wind In The Willows
11 days ago

I beg to differ. The passivity you perceive is not acquiescence, but wise restraint. When the tyranny arises, there will be a ruthless Jackboot reaction that targets the population broadly, not just the propagandized enemies. Read your history. And when the time to act arrives, the Jackboot corp will be bypassed and the fight must be directed at the top of the power pyramid. The elites want the plebs to fight among themselves. Do not play along. Smarter is better.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  TomA
11 days ago

How does that quote go?

“First, they came for us all at once, and I was surprised?”

Tablet Finder
Tablet Finder
Reply to  TomA
11 days ago

Delusional cope. There is no boomer rebellion coming. Read your history. Revolutions are fought by the young, and the left has captured that entire generation, along with the institutions. Thus, the massive street activism of BLM and antifa which dwarfs your own. That means several generations of leftist rule, at best with current demographic trends. The right are always waiting for Superman to come and save them rather than do the work themselves, but he’s not coming.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Tablet Finder
11 days ago

Conventional wars and rebellions are fought by young men because that is what works in that type of scenario. And that is the road to failure in this modern era. It simply pits plebs against each other in pseudo red vs blue conflict that decimates both sides. One man with focus can do far more than a battalion cast into the meat grinder. And it doesn’t have to be Superman. Look up Simo “Simuna” Häyhä.

My Comment
Member
Reply to  Tablet Finder
10 days ago

You are right that revolutions are fought by the young. It is amusing to read older commenters pretending that the same people who let the left win every cultural battle are going to suddenly become Rambo. Ain’t going to happen

Dicksister
Dicksister
Reply to  Tablet Finder
10 days ago

Charlottesville was a turning point…you’ll see

miforest
Member
Reply to  Rhodok
11 days ago

this could not be further from the truth. The EXTREMES they have gone to to try to prevent another trump term are a tell. they have completely dropped the mask , destroyed the economy , and exposed the controlled opposition of the GOP for what they really are. that’s not something they would do if they didn’t have to . as ineffective as he is , they greatly fear him . I don’t know why, but they Clearly do.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  miforest
11 days ago

One of the more sensible theories about why the Establishment hates Trump is that he might be threatening their entire corrupt revenue stream.

Tablet Finder
Tablet Finder
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
11 days ago

No, they don’t fear him. They hate him as a stand if for those whom they imagine vote for him: normal Whites and men. In the past, they could pretend they were championing equality or what not. But it was always a means to signal their superiority over those whom they secretly hate along identity lines. Trump is just the whipping boy in this dynamic. But now it has grown to the point where the mask is slipping and the Left is revealing their true motives: hatred of you for being you. Thus, Kamala Harris’s racism in that VP debate… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Tablet Finder
11 days ago

Please point out where I wrote, “fear,” in my original post.

Tablet Finder
Tablet Finder
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
11 days ago

It was implicit in the comment. Don’t be obtuse, if you can help it.

Dicksister
Dicksister
Reply to  Tablet Finder
10 days ago

Well said

Sandmich
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
11 days ago

That and their child molestation gig.

Tablet Finder
Tablet Finder
Reply to  Rhodok
11 days ago

You can tell Trump is going to lose by the fact that his supporters are already making excuses for why Biden won’t be that bad for them, or at least not any different from Trump. This is why there isn’t going to be a civil war. The right is beaten, and they know it. Sad, but true.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tablet Finder
11 days ago

Congrats on being hired for that internship. You’re off to a promising start.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Tablet Finder
11 days ago

How about those of you downvoting Tablet Finder try providing a coherent explanation as to why he is wrong?

Tablet Finder
Tablet Finder
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

It’s alright. They can’t handle the truth, so they deflect. I understand, so I’m not offended. It’s all a cope to make life a bit easier to process, as uncomfortable as it might be for some here to admit that. It’s common for defeated people to imagine a savior is on the horizon. Early Christians who suffered under Roman oppression had the return of Christ to warm the spirits. Jews had the Golem. Various native tribes thought magic would protect them. These are the same people who’ve been fantasizing about Qanon for years. But Qanon just got banned from Facebook… Read more »

Normie
Reply to  Tablet Finder
11 days ago

So fing well said…

Dicksister
Dicksister
Reply to  MemeWarVet
10 days ago

Charlottesville was the turning point…sure we ‘lost’ but did we really? We were ready to die that day and alot of white men saw it. But time will tell

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Tablet Finder
11 days ago

What supposed Trump supporters are you talking/listening to?

David
Reply to  Rhodok
11 days ago

No love for banning critical race theory, 300 miles of wall, reducing H1b visas and even legal and illegal immigration, hundreds of federal judges and maybe 3 supreme court picks? All of this is certainly better than nothing for us. A second trump term id expect to be more aggressive.

Tablet Finder
Tablet Finder
Reply to  David
11 days ago

Everything the poster said here was true, and Trump does deserve credit for these things. However, none of it will save us in the end. The democrats are already signalling they will pack the courts. With permanent control of the government, due to demographic change, there will be nothing to stop them, so Trump’s accomplishment here won’t count for much in the long run. In regards to the wall, that’s a very small fraction of the total border while this president simultaneously bragged that he wanted “record numbers of legal immigrants.” If anything, that demographic is even less likely to… Read more »

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
11 days ago

I’m still trying to understand what the hell is going on in the minds of whites who are voting democrat at this point. Take out the accelerationists, the muh vagina/nasty woman vote, and the “fellow white people” like Tim Wise, and you’re still left with a solid number of well-meaning but delusional people. I just have to assume they’ve had no experience of what diversity really means. People talk about “cucks” but those are the David French types who get off on losing; these whites remind me less of cuckoos and more of the Seabirds of Gough Islands, the birds… Read more »

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  Joey Jünger
11 days ago

This is evolutionary. I see several types as well- The ones who aren’t kumbayah universalist Christians, who genuinely believe all humans are God’s Children, are smarter secular types who have an understanding of biology- those types genuinely think their position on diversity makes them better than us in every way. They see themselves as riding the top of the wave of diversity, and therefore evolution, because they think that not only is it inevitable, but it’s also morally superior, and that moral superiority correlates highly with evolutionary superiority, in a world they are creating and have created, and clearly agency… Read more »

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
Reply to  Alfred Doolittle
11 days ago

The left doesn’t hate instinct in service to the drive to survive so much as they hate to see this in white people. They’ve been celebrating the “Natural Man” in non-whites since Josephine Baker was dancing in a banana skirt in cabarets. It’s hard for people who haven’t been “educated” in Europe to understand how much post-War(s) Continental philosophy is driven by this logic: “World War I destroyed every belief system that came before it, and World War II destroyed any chance for belief or meaning. Therefore anyone who is happy, shows interest in the future, a drive to survive,… Read more »

Geo. Orwell
Geo. Orwell
Reply to  Joey Jünger
11 days ago

This comports rather well with Evan Sayet’s thoughts about the liberal mind; that because no system of morality has ever eliminated poverty, strife and war, the only answer is: the problem lies in trying to be right or moral at all. The very attempt to apply standards to people results in different outcomes, and is therefore discriminatory. So if someone somewhere is happy and prosperous while someone else is not, is taken as de facto evidence of injustice. If whites are more successful than another group it can only mean they have cheated.

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Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  Joey Jünger
11 days ago

They only hate seeing it in white people if whites aren’t pozzed/globohomo. Of course anything goes in non whites- they are either noble savages quaintly reminding them of the evolutionary path of all hominids, and therefore our shared humanity, or beings so different, yet with so much potential, as to give leftists a sense of purpose in the ‘blank canvas’ they present, as long as your optimistic, which is another evolutionary mark of a good leftist. Speaking of which, who you spoke of are just one subgroup of the left. It’s true, I forgot to mention them; I left out… Read more »

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  Joey Jünger
11 days ago

Wrote a response I would have loved to have heard feedback on and poof, into the ether it has gone. Bloody hell. I’ll try again later, because I think I made some important points.

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  Alfred Doolittle
11 days ago

Nevermind, there it is. My apologies to Zman, I don’t know what it is about this site or the device I am using or my internet connection, but I find myself having to double and triple tap the post comment button to even get any indication the comment has posted, and of course it then informs I’ve already posted or am posting too fast. I notice these piling up in the total comments number tally even though we can’t see them, so I know I am making you work harder to deal with these boomer tech hiccups- I don’t know… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Alfred Doolittle
11 days ago

Sometimes if board active the apparent multiple upvotes are other people voting up at same time. Just a refresh function.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Alfred Doolittle
11 days ago

 I concur that there is I concur that there is something I concur that there is something goofy I concur that there is something goofy as as you can see from this example 😠

(Not a joke, the above is straight voice typing. Almost impossible to edit on my Android.)

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Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
11 days ago

Lmao. God, I’ve been typing all this stupid shit out on my phone. What a sucker!

When I reread some of it, i go back and forth between ideas with such crappy punctuation and run on sentences, it’s not much more coherent than your above post. May as well switch to voice!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Joey Jünger
11 days ago

“If you’re not outraged, you’re not paying attention!” Well, I am outraged, but not at the targets they demand.

Bob the Builder
Bob the Builder
Reply to  Alfred Doolittle
11 days ago

Except: 1) They have a TFR of nothing, and therefore have no evolutionary future of any kind. 2) They tend to live very far away from diversity and interact with it little beyond maybe a maid service or the lawn mower. Whites that live around diversity, especially the black kind, is actually a huge factor in predicting whether you are a trump voter or not. Preach like MLK, live like the KKK. It is far more predictive and valuable to just conceptualize it as a religion for bored and spoiled white cat ladies. This isn’t a mad genius four-d chess… Read more »

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  Bob the Builder
11 days ago

They have enough TFR to wipe us out. We’re so passive we’re not even fish, whites are plankton. Plankton absolutely have higher TFR than whales.
It doesn’t save the plankton.

You chose to avoid organizing because of risk as certain doom approached, live and die with the choice.

No one is coming to save you, they shouldn’t either; you refuse to save yourselves.

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  Bob the Builder
11 days ago

You may be addressing a substantial portion of the more rank and file, but how many of these cloud people do there really need to be to rule from above, especially the more automation is introduced? The most successful, happy ones, pairbond and procreate, even if they aren’t having a dozen kids and it’s only replacement rate. That’s why they are globalists/multikult- they bring the approved diversity in highly filtered quality and limited quantity, to them- They don’t subject themselves to the pandemonium of the plebes. It’s a biological given the diversity in the elite circles will continue to be… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Bob the Builder
11 days ago

TFR changes. Food becomes scarce women stop menstruating. These things fluctuate. Similarly, I stopped worrying about dysgenic breeding and lower IQ. Impossible to know what it will look like 50yrs out. Although i will hazard a guess that africa is looking at a huge die off within 50 yrs.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  SidVic
11 days ago

When external aid ends. Not from a deliberate choice, rather the West will have more pressing issues at home.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Alfred Doolittle
11 days ago

When you find yourself in downtown Minneapolis surrounded by a large group of Somalians remember the the old saying “there are no strangers, only friends you haven’t met”.

Rhodok
Rhodok
Reply to  Alfred Doolittle
11 days ago

 They see themselves as riding the top of the wave of … evolution,”

Quite possible, and ironically completely failing to see that they are going against evolution.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Rhodok
11 days ago

There’s no such thing as “going against evolution,” because evolution has no goals. We’re all taught in school that evolution relies on “natural selection” also described as “survival of the fittest.” Well, let’s break down “survival of the fittest.” “Survival” is obvious — what goes on to reproduce in the next generation. But what about “fittest?” There is no more concise definition for “fittest” in evolutionary terms than “that which survives.” An animal might look like hell on wheels, an unstoppable planet-dominating force by an observer’s estimation, but if it doesn’t actually survive — say due to a sudden change… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Vizzini
11 days ago

Fitness is whatever works in a particular environment, hence it persists and eventually becomes a trait.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  TomA
11 days ago

So what you’re saying is what survives is what survives. Conveniently unfalsifiable, as tautologies are.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Vizzini
11 days ago

What I’m saying is that something cannot become a trait unless it persists, and for that to happen, you must live long enough to reproduce. That isn’t a tautology, it’s an observed feature of all life forms.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  TomA
10 days ago

Yes, it certainly is a feature of all life forms that they descend from an unbroken string of ancestors that reproduced. It seems really hard for you to understand why the fact that they survived to reproduce makes them the fittest renders survival of the fittest a tautology. Something being a tautology does not mean it is not an observable fact. Quite the opposite. A tautology cannot be anything other than observable fact, because it is saying, in effect, that a thing is itself. The problem lies in that saying that a thing is itself is no great revelation. You… Read more »

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The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Vizzini
11 days ago

Agreed. There’s no direction to evolution. Intelligence might convey no lasting advantage. Technology could turn out to be characteristic of any intelligent species at the very end of its evolutionary span.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  The Right Doctor
10 days ago

You get it.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Alfred Doolittle
11 days ago

They are proud that finally science and biology have been vanquished 😀

Normie
Reply to  Alfred Doolittle
11 days ago

This is 100% true…

My Comment
Member
Reply to  Alfred Doolittle
10 days ago

Tom Wolfe wrote that all political disputes are competition over status. The tribe is the only group that can convey status on people. Men might rebel against that but women won’t

JustaProle
JustaProle
Reply to  Joey Jünger
11 days ago

Had conversation with one a few weeks ago. Boomer, retired union worker. Said Biden’s experience in govt will ensure he brings in correct personnel to get govt functioning again. Attempts to get deeper than that with him were failures; he literally was incapable of discussing the issue in any depth, or breadth.

Sandmich
Reply to  JustaProle
11 days ago

They’re the “blues” in blue team versus red team. I ran into a couple of those too, it’s…”quaint”. I feel like telling them “you do know that Ronald Reagan and Tip O’Neill have been dead for decades, right?” It’s a variation of my late grandmother voting for Team Blue because “muh FDR”

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  JustaProle
11 days ago

Said Biden’s experience in govt will ensure he brings in correct personnel to get govt functioning again This is one of the key hallmarks of those who are on the other side of the divide. The complete belief that we ought to ‘get government functioning again’ tells me that these people would indeed be lost without it. I suppose for a former union man it is understandable he is stuck in this mindset. All former union men I knew had a deep belief in organization and centralization… unsurprisingly. To my mind, it is evident that vast swathes of the government… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  JustaProle
11 days ago

I’d have more respect if he said “Biden will pack the Supreme Court, and the Democrats will have uniparty rule for the next 100 years”.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Joey Jünger
11 days ago

Never underestimate the power of peer pressure and social reward to nullify the middle in public. For the limo leftists around here, none of the consequences of their “faith” have actually touched them in any material way. Funny thing though, in a place that was forested with Hillary signs in ’16 (though only a handful of Biden signs today-I keep count) 42% of the votes were cast for Trump in ’16. Yet I never find anyone that I don’t know well that will admit voting for him.

Milestone D
Milestone D
Reply to  Joey Jünger
11 days ago

I live inside the DC Beltway, in the nicest part. These people truly do not believe that they can be negatively affected by the chaos they create. As in, they truly believe that their virtue or good-intentions or just good fortune will shield them from riots/looting/bad schools, etc. As long as Good Whites/Cloud People don’t *feel* the consequences of their beliefs, then they will happily conclude that their virtue signals will continue to protect them.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Milestone D
11 days ago

Happened to be in Bethesda a couple of times during the final quarter of the ’16 election. While always a different world, even compared to NY, the air of unreality was at new heights. Always found cocktail parties and social gatherings there fascinating. With the exception of the occasional real estate developer or someone of that ilk, often can never figure out what the other people actually do for a living.

Milestone D
Milestone D
Reply to  SamlAdams
11 days ago

This place is truly a fantasy land. I’d guess the majority of my neighbors have graduate degrees. Their world is wholly detached from normal America. Just the way they like it.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Milestone D
11 days ago

>>These people truly do not believe that they can be negatively affected by the chaos they create<<

Put yourself in their shoes. What evidence exists that they are not correct?

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

irrelevant question since facts and logic doesn’t work on these people.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Forever Templar
11 days ago

the fact is that they have suffered no ill consequences, and there is little reason to suspect they ever shall.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

History judges otherwise, Meme: Think the French aristocracy in the late 1700’s; think the Romanovs in the early 1900’s; think all those well-meaning people in Cuba who supported Castro in the mid-1900’s. There’s plenty of reason to suggest eventual ill-consequences for those inside the DC Beltway. History teaches.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Jim Smith
11 days ago

The French aristocracy created the revolution. See Bally, Talleyrand, Phillipe Egalitie, etc.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

And the American “aristocracy” has played a large role in creating the current revolution.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
11 days ago

Correct – and as in France, they’ll be the ones leading it.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

I thought it was 3 rich lawyers, one of then Robespierre.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Alzaebo
11 days ago

The architects of The Terror were nobodies in 1789

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

Their avoidance of evolutionary dead ends confirms their awareness of the inherent violence. Roe v Wade is their hedge against encroachment of “The wrong kind of people.” as R Buzzi G used to say.

Milestone D
Milestone D
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

Well … there are some cracks forming in the edifice. My Montgomery County inside the beltway neighbors freaked out a bit over the summer when the Lefty true-believers on the school board moved to reinstitute bussing, so that the diversity kids can learn in Magic Dirt schools, with their little geniuses being farmed out to the Tragic Dirt schools, all in the name of fairness. I might have quipped to my neighbor when she sheepishly lobbied me to vote for a (gasp!) republican school board candidate that she had brought this on herself and that she now deserved the full… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Milestone D
11 days ago

My default has always been that if I see peace, prosperity, and low crime rates I think “what went wrong?” What I mean is that I understand the human default is violent barbarism. When you find a place that’s not filthy, violent, and chaotic, something has gone “wrong”. People have taken a break from their usual behavior. It takes some very peculiar circumstances for them to do this. Having grown up back East in a series of shitty neighborhoods made me aware of this very early. Now I live outside Portland, OR and am surrounded by these Goodwhite types. I… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Milestone D
10 days ago

Neither could the people in a very nice little suburb of Milwaukee. They are now only one optically bad police encounter in their neighborhood from a riot. And from what I’ve seen of the Montgomery county exec, he could give Ted Wheeler a run for his money.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

Well, now, things have gotten a mite hot in blue urban enclaves over the last several months, and the smell of smoke surely can be detected in those toney neighborhoods. There is a reason for a renewed white exodus from the cities.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  MemeWarVet
10 days ago

Unfortunately the adherents of the Kadet Party in late Czarist Russia are unavailable for comment. They thought “radical chic” was a cool thing to embrace. Until they ended up shot in a basement.

B124
B124
Reply to  Milestone D
11 days ago

That’s right. They don’t see themselves the same as us, they see themselves as separate.

They are sheep walking to the slaughter. However, they really do believe that they are different, and the “good ones”.

Non-whites, Jews, and elites don’t see us as separate at all. We are all to be crushed.

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  B124
11 days ago

Well no, they run the slaughterhouse. We’re the Sheep. Whites are sheep, we’re weak. We deserve what we got, we deserve what we’ll get, we’re the weak ones and the others are wiping us out. < That’s Evolution. That’s real evolution. Tell me if the sight of our elites including yes the JJJ (we encouraged their rise) doesn’t evoke a basic, primal urge to eradicate. Why shouldn’t we perish? By the laws of nature, the precepts of evolutionary selection and by the very sight of our gentle sons; We really do deserve extinction. Sorry. We became sick, time to die.… Read more »

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  Wind In The Willows
11 days ago

No, you’re weak and better off dead, and no one’s gonna miss you, stupid fuck.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Milestone D
11 days ago

It’s a simple mater of survival. If Trump truly “drains the swamp” their plan of further enrichment through a career of parasitism is dead.

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  Doug
11 days ago

Speaking of living in the past, why do you think Trump will drain the swamp? The swamp that just killed the economy for non Blue, non govt? The swamp that made tens of trillions doing so? Trump is a carny barker. His bluff been called. Oh he did us a lot of good, but it was all taken away by a few deep state doctors and Blue governors. That and some well financed nogs and brats in the street. We’re worse off than before Trump, and we would have been better off with Jeb, or yes even Her. It would… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Wind In The Willows
11 days ago

Yet according to last weeks Gallup poll, 56% of Americans think they’re “better off ” than they were 4 years ago.

Trump may be a carny barker, but the US economy is a confidence engine. Obama and Carter were peas of the same pod saying “America’s best years are gone forever”…then watched the malaise take place.

I’ll take a cheerleader like Trump, thanks.

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  ProZNoV
11 days ago

I guess your economy is doing fine, so screw the rest? I got some down votes for saying we would have been better off with Jeb, or her. Simply put; No Trump, no COVID, no shutdown, no masks. The police could police. The Chaos we see, the COVID crackdown; none of that would have happened without Trump. OH AND THE CHURCHES WOULD BE OPEN. US economy is a “confidence engine.” Getting a strong godless Boomer vibe here. Understand; I can’t stand to set foot in a Catholic church now, but that’s because I think I believe more than they do.… Read more »

Oval White
Oval White
Reply to  ProZNoV
11 days ago

Obama and Carter were peas of the same pod saying “America’s best years are gone forever”…then watched the malaise take place. I’ll take a cheerleader like Trump, thanks.

That right there is why conservatives lost. They are a fundamentally lazy people who prefer to embrace fanciful copes rather than embrace the truth and work hard to build the future. They’d rather grill and chill while the orchestra plays as the Titanic goes down.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Milestone D
11 days ago

These people truly do not believe that they can be negatively affected by the chaos they create.

The removal of man from an environment that exposes him to the consequences of his poor choices is one of the most catastrophic things a people can face.

By God, let it come to them. Bring that massive bird back home to roost.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Joey Jünger
11 days ago

There are a lot of legacy Democrats who believe that Joe Biden is an updated Harry Truman.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
11 days ago

i can see why they harken back to the last century for a reference since he does look like a reanimated corpse.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
11 days ago

Those people are beyond dumb.

Truman was a shoe salesman living paycheck to paycheck.

China Joe’s dad ran a huge Chevy dealership and gave him a new Corvette as a wedding present.

Mis(ter)Anthrope
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
11 days ago

Damn, I thought Biden’s old man was a coal miner from a poor part of England. And that he overcame his poor background to graduate at the top of his law class. Oh wait, never mind. That was Neil Kinnock whose father was the coal miner. And Joe actually graduated at the bottom of his law class. Crazy Joe was a fraud long before the dementia kicked in and he started telling people that he started college at an all negro school, Delaware State. Maybe I’m a bit cynical, but I believe Chris Wallace would have mentioned these delusions statements… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Mis(ter)Anthrope
10 days ago

If he didn’t live in a state so small you can fire a .22 across it, his career apogee would have been as an alderman grifting paving and waste disposal contracts.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  Joey Jünger
11 days ago

People still think that the Dems are the party of the working man. They’ve always voted Dem. Their parents always voted Dem. Their grandparents always voted Dem. Almost everyone in my lower-middle-class, upper-working-class neighborhood will vote Dem in November.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  MBlanc46
11 days ago

these are the people who should be rescued from the “Democrat Plantation”

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  Joey Jünger
11 days ago

they were raised Democrat.

end of story.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Joey Jünger
11 days ago

It’s the complete isolation caused by our society. I makes them vulnerable to the Media , that does the rest. I know many people who believe MSNBC

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Joey Jünger
11 days ago

They suffer from the “Comfort First” imperative. Most are living the good life and do not want to rock the boat. However, when the bubble bursts and hard times return, it will be a different story entirely.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Joey Jünger
11 days ago

I find the BLM signs (now, available in Halloween colors!) less offensive, less controlling, and less naive than the “We Believe” catechism.

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Tablet Finder
Tablet Finder
Reply to  Joey Jünger
11 days ago

The Left are selfish individualists who lack in-group preference. They are materialists who are perfectly fine with anything as long as they get to keep their possessions, their wealth, and their social status. All of that matters more to them than their country or their group’s welfare because they have little investment in either as they don’t have children and live apart from you. They are nasty bigots who get a kick out of attacking you in the same way a kid might laugh at roasting ants under a magnifying glass. What’s so hard to understand about the left?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Tablet Finder
11 days ago

John Lennon’s “Working Class Hero” would be apropos here.

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  Joey Jünger
10 days ago

The power of the modern, consolidated media to create a virtual alternate world.

Something that is largely ignored.

Paul
Paul
11 days ago

I remember somebody saying that in 2016 Trump was really running against the media. And while not the whole truth, it was certainly a big part of it.

I think he should do that again. Enemy of the people and all that. He should attack them directly every time. “Oh, so I’m debating you now” vs Chris Wallace was a good start.

It’s a good political move, because even “conservatives” hate the “mainstream” (i.e., left-wing) media.

But it’s a political win and also a metapolitical win, because completely discrediting the scumbags in the media is important for /our/ thing.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Paul
11 days ago

I just can’t believe anything, ANYTHING the US media peddles anymore. Even the whole “FBI stops Right Wingers/Antifa in Michigan” story….I can’t help but wonder how much of it is just straight up made from whole cloths Goebbels levels propaganda?

B124
B124
Reply to  ProZNoV
11 days ago

I know it’s fake when it’s a caricature of “the right”

Rednecks in chicago yelling “this is maga country!” And throwing a noose at jussie.

Kavanaugh laughing maniacally as he proceeded to force his penis into Blasey Ford’s hand.

A dumb redneck in the woods, with a Confederate flag on his pickup truck, part of the Wolverine Warriors militia.

Just too perfect. I don’t buy it, but maybe the nice white ladies will. Whitmer is evil and stirs up revulsion from my inner core.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  B124
10 days ago

Though suspect if their little caper were successful the plotters would quickly find they wandered into a real life version of “The Ransom of Red Chief”.

Dicksister
Dicksister
Reply to  ProZNoV
11 days ago

They have one of the guys on film with an anarchist flag hanging in his room

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  Dicksister
11 days ago

All they need to see is White.

He could be dressed as Stalin, he’s White male.
Case closed.

Yman
Yman
Reply to  ProZNoV
11 days ago

It was set up, another stupid gentile didn’t notice that its frame job at the beginning when an informant recorded the whole thing and paid by you guess it Bureau Those guys talking about stereotype conservative stuff such as lock down that hurting economy, there’s no hint to some sort of racial supremacy And have no actual evidence these anarchists capabilities to perform terrorist things But our media said they are white therefore white supremacist anyway Apparently political meeting of six white looking guys is deadly enough as ISIS beheaded journalist I know its all another false flag and Psy-op, but… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  ProZNoV
10 days ago

Just watching them bend over backward to avoid mentioning the juvie miscreant that was shot was carrying an illegal handgun and shot at the officer first. Have read several MSM articles over the past few days that don’t even mention that *little* detail.

frayburn
frayburn
11 days ago

Ford would not have been able to run in 1980. The 22nd Amendment limits a president to two full terms or one term and two years. Ford served about two years and five months of Nixon’s second term.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  frayburn
11 days ago

This is why TPTB will wait until January 2023 before sending Biden out to pasture.

My understanding is that, if necessary, Heels-Up could serve as a type of regent under the 25th Amendment without actually taking the office prior to that.

As long as ‘Mala does not officially assume the office until 1/2 the term is done, she can run again in 2024 and 2028. 10 whole years of her!

Sandmich
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

Not sure why this was down-voted as that’s the exact sort of scheme the left would pull: they don’t have to take Biden out since they can just permanently sideline him and pretend someone else is in charge. It might not even me Kamala, it might be whoever the Chief of Staff is. The challenge for them will probably be in keeping Biden alive.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Sandmich
11 days ago

No, they have to take him out. The President still has the role of being head of government and interfacing with the rest of the world. Memewar isn’t wrong is saying they can’t work through that, but the conclusion is wedded in the usual “Jews run da world and we must name” schtick that never makes much sense in he scale of governance referred to.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

That’s Coma-la, you bigot!

(((They))) Live
(((They))) Live
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

I can’t really see her winning an election in 2024, I don’t know much about her but I watched the “debate” with Pence. she seems strange to me, no matter what Pence said she had this strange fake smile, and her voice was annoying, to my Irish ears most American accents sound ok, but Kamala for some reason sounded terrible, I don’t know why she seems like a psychopath to me, (most politicians are) but she’s not good at hiding it. she got 3% in the Dem primary and could be President in 2022, crazy She’s only in the Senate… Read more »

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  (((They))) Live
11 days ago

Demographics are why she can win.

See California and the second governorship of Jerry Brown for a perfect example.

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  (((They))) Live
11 days ago

Well she’s in the Senate because she shagged Willie Brown White.

Had Monica Lewinsky STFU and not blabbed to Jonah Goldberg’s Mom she’d be Senator Lewinsky.

Willie Brown is a CA democratic power broker, Kamala his cast off mistress. Kamala married JJJ, she’s Bindy enough for google, Black enough to fool the others for a time, here we are.

Epaminondas
Member
11 days ago

I’m not a shy Trump voter. I’ve had a large Trump sign on my property for several weeks. Plus I get to annoy my liberal neighbors.

If Biden wins, the FBI/CIA/KGB types will double down on their skullduggery. Those dissidents who want acceleration may get more of it than they bargained for.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Epaminondas
11 days ago

The oppression increases either way.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
11 days ago

There will be acceleration regardless of who wins. With a Trump victory, the gas pedal will just go down harder.

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
11 days ago

My problem with Trump is he talks tough, acts clever. The tough talk excites his voters, which terrified PTB. So when they couldn’t get him, they went after all of us – and he went right along, destroying the work of decades economically with the COVID scam. Then when the Riots began he barked ~ then did nothing. He’s a barker; but now we’re in a fight that he was and is the frontman for – and we’re left to face the music. Leaderless. There is no worse crime than to summon your army to the field then abandon them… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Wind In The Willows
10 days ago

Any member of the DR who relies on a politician or a party is a fool. Ultimately, we are all that matters. Pols and parties provide us only with oblique help or hindrance.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
11 days ago

>>Harris is so obnoxious that she will be voted out in the following election, regardless of who the GOP nominates. <<

In a sane, White county, yes. We no longer live in that place.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

Once Florida or Texas flip – or maybe even Georgia or Arizona – the Dems will be able to run a chicken sandwich and win. Whether that’s 2024, I don’t know, but it’s likely not later than 2028 or 2032.

But it’ll take White Republicans a decade or two to figure out that they have no chance. They’ll keep acting the same well into the 2030s by which time, we’ll truly be screwed, and that’s when it get interesting.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Republicans winning WA, OR, CA, NV, CO, IL, NJ, VA, CT, and VT?

Sandmich
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

In my visits to MA I wonder if the GOP ever thought to run as the anti-corporate party that would rail against turning the state into an even more crowded hell-hole where what’s left of the nature there continues to fall to the developer’s plow. My thinking is “no”.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Sandmich
11 days ago

Don’t blaspheme against the market god!

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Sandmich
11 days ago

MA rates 47th among the states in fiscal health. Public sector pension liabilities are hopelessly underfunded and MassHealth (medicare) eats up close to half of the present budget. The unsustainable growth is just their way of delaying the inevitable.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

Give more of NE to R, SW and mountain W to D. Something like that.

Goodwhites are fleeing the coasts, blacks will follow them, hispanics won’t be monolithically D as expected.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Paintersforms
11 days ago

Instead of voting 90/10 for Democrats like blacks do, Hispanics will break 70/30, maybe 60/40 on a really exceptional day.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  c matt
11 days ago

Yep. Given their numbers, that’s a huge break for Republicans. They’ll own depressed white/hispanic states in the wake of this new great migration. That might be temporary unless demographic trends change, but it buys a little time. Or hispanics shift towards Republicans. I see evidence of it every day, but I have no idea if it’ll last.

Of course I’d rather whites get their heads out of their asses, but the End of the World isn’t guaranteed. New day, new battles.

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Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  Paintersforms
11 days ago

we will have to fight.
We likely will, facing extinction.
We will suffer far worse than was necessary had we organized as our enemies did.

As for the Hispanics they came here to be white. Like the Italians did.

Neither you know wants to be Black. Lol.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  c matt
11 days ago

Blacks are going to historically break 20/80 against trump, and possibly 25/75 (you heard it here first). Hispanics will break close to 50/50, and possibly majority-Trump (you heard that here first too). We’ll see in 3 weeks.

B124
B124
Reply to  Jim Smith
11 days ago

That is some first rate hopium, my friend. Not happening.

Also funny to see supposed “white nationalists” getting on the based Hispanics and based blacks wagon after a few polls showed that they increased their support for Republicans by 5%.

I’ll give you a shout out after the election if you’re right, admitting my mistake.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  B124
11 days ago

It may be part of the element Hopium, B, but I don’t think it’s in any part Unobtainium. 😉

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  Jim Smith
11 days ago

Agree.

Trump will win.
And then we see what the other side will do ~ and we’d better have our own counters at least mentally. This guy Trump will.not.fight. Would that it were different. Of course I’m going to vote for him, but don’t delude yourselves that elections decide anything.

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Look at that map from 1976. That’s the future.

In what sense?

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Federalist
11 days ago

I went on 270towin.com and tried to game out a rust belt/sun belt realignment.

The overwhelming takeaway was that when Texas goes, it’s over, period.

GOP could pull off losing AZ, GA, and NC if they replace them with PA, MI, WI, NH, and MN. But when TX goes, see ya.

miforest
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

this is all up in the air now because of the great covid migration. unfortunately the new Yorkers fleeing caumo’s police state will destabilize a lot of formerly red states. They never learn, and always take their voting habits with them . they are like locusts , ruing one state with leftists voting , them move to a nice red state and vote for all the things they just left

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Um, California going for the GOP? I could maybe see Whites in Washington and Oregon waking up as the brown horde invades their neighborhoods, but California.

I suspect that future presidential electoral maps will resemble this but on a national scale.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_gubernatorial_election

And then this:

https://electionarium.com/2018-mexico-election-results/

Finishing here:

https://www.geocurrents.info/geopolitics/elections/preliminary-observations-brazils-2014-presidential-election

Q-ship
Q-ship
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Interesting! Maybe cleave off coastal California from the Bay Area south and southern Arizona and New Mexico over to west Texas. What is left in the West looks like a pretty good Great White Homeland. Some, ahem population transfers may be necessary in a few areas like western Washington state and Oregon, Denver/Boulder, etc.

New England is weird and should have been a separate nation from the beginning.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Q-ship
11 days ago

Present day New England bears no demographic resemblance to colonial New England. Only ~10% have English ancestry. The largest ethnic groups are the Irish and Italians.

B124
B124
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

Sailer Strategy + Dem=black party means the Republians could keep winning.

Sailer is a genius, SS was 2016 and dem=BP is coming true in 2020. By accident.

Unfortunately the GOP’s goal is to pacify whites until we are too small to count.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  B124
11 days ago

What is the Sailer Strategy?

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  DLS
11 days ago

Sailer actually has a two-pronged attack. First, the GOP should focus on increasing the % of Whites voting Republican rather than pandering to POC. Second, brand the Democratic Party as the “Black” Party to drive a wedge into the Coalition of the Fringes and reduce turnout among Hispanics and Asians and maybe even turn a few to the GOP. It’s a good strategy IF it was used to get enough support in Congress to pass an immigration moratorium. Unfortunately, the GOP would 1) never follow the Sailer Strategy out of fear of being called a racist by the media and… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

I could see that happening in the coming years if today’s millennial commies feel betrayed by the cause. I maintain they’re not ideologues, just angry. That anger would make them ardent fascists.

Dicksister
Dicksister
Reply to  Paintersforms
11 days ago

I read a book once where these SA guys were showing their communist badges to the interviewer from the year before. They laughed about it.

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  Paintersforms
11 days ago

the white leftists becoming white fascists is totally in keeping with historical norms.
We should welcome them; they’re fighters.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Wind In The Willows
11 days ago

Not sure I’d want to go down that road, but it’s a possible future that has to be considered and planned for, certainly.

Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

If getting called raciss by sniveling media dorks is what stops the GOP every time, the obvious thing to do is what Trump does. Attack the media directly, first with rhetoric and then legislation once you gain power. There are all kinds of legal shenanigans that could be done to essentially cripple the mass media. At this point the media is a 4th branch of government and the most powerful one in terms of its ability to mobilize mobs to support or oppose things. It needs to be destroyed, not argued with. The Left is composed of a few smart… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

Thanks!

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

“The GOP should focus on increasing the % of Whites voting Republican rather than pandering to POC.” Why not do both? Wait. Trump IS doing both.

B124
B124
Reply to  DLS
11 days ago

That the Republican party needs to become the party of the white working class in order to win.

It was always just a theory but Trump actually pulled it off in 2016, perhaps inadvertently.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  B124
11 days ago

He definitely intended it. In fact, it was the basis of his campaign. Then they hit him with white supremacy and he buckled.

’White Supremacy’ is a dog whistle for white working class interests.

Tablet Finder
Tablet Finder
Reply to  B124
11 days ago

That’s not going to happen. The democrat party controls so much of the media and the institutions they can just demonize Whites and keep all minorities voting Dem, which is what they do anyway. It’s very effective. Further, the polls are showing Trump losing White support as he courts minorities, especially in the ‘burbs and among educated Whites. This probably indicates that it’s not possible for the Republicans to pick up appreciable amounts of working class White and Hispanic votes without also losing snobby Whites to the other side, which will more than offset whatever marginal gains they make among… Read more »

Dicksister
Dicksister
Reply to  Tablet Finder
11 days ago

Let it die

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  Dicksister
11 days ago

Good grief, who cares what happens to the GOP?
They never cared what happened to us.
At least our enemies openly hate us, the GOP betrays us.
Betraying whites is the GOPs core business. The rest is just enrichment.

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  B124
11 days ago

Yes, the GOP strategy is pretty much to sell us out.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago
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Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

>>Harris is so obnoxious that she will be voted out in the following election, regardless of who the GOP nominates. <<

In a sane, White county, yes. We no longer live in that place.

Agreed. This is all based on the premise that America elected a creepy guy that fondles and sniffs children and who is obviously suffering from dementia. If America can elect Biden, there’s no reason that it can’t elect an obnoxious bitch. Hell, a majority voted for Hillary Clinton.

Last edited 11 days ago by Federalist
Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  Federalist
11 days ago

People see what they want to see. We see a psychopathic whore; AWFLs see the first woman president. Nothing is more important to a narcissist than validation.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Peabody
11 days ago

The sisterhood has and always will trump everything.

(((They))) Live
(((They))) Live
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
11 days ago

Did Trump not get a majority of of the white woman vote ?

Normal married white women worry about a future for their children, well most of them do

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

Such pessimism is unnecessary. The Donks have lost the common working man, regardless of colour, creed, ethnicity, blah blah blah. You can’t run a business or raise a family in a CHAZ zone. Nor can you do that with endless lockdowns. If you are black with an IQ > 85, you know the ghetto needs more cops, not less. The left is not nudging us, they are flogging us. They have a stick, but no carrot. The result of that is usually dead horses. As our host says, Sportzball got a steel toed boot up the arse. ESPN is on… Read more »

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  Glenfilthie
11 days ago

I hope that you are right about normie, but I see little evidence of it. You are certainly correct that the Left will eventually kill the horse. They will have a dead horse on their hands. So will the rest of us.

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  MBlanc46
11 days ago

Who here wants to be a normie?

Nuff said.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Glenfilthie
11 days ago

Maybe all this will finally force him to change his ways?” Maybe, but nah.

Rich
Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
11 days ago

The left’s carrot, for any shallow thinker that’s interested, is FREE STUFF.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Rich
11 days ago

Given that Whites allowed “free markets” to cut their effective wages in half over 40 years or so, who is the stupid one again?
For many people no amount of work they do will get you anything but behind , its understandable they go for State solutions.

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  Glenfilthie
11 days ago

If the Left whites change their ways get ready for Swastikas.
No you won’t enjoy it, but there are worse things.

Q-ship
Q-ship
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

The refusal of Biden and Harris to answer the Supreme Court packing question makes it clear they intend to pack the Court if they win the presidency and both houses of Congress. This will also require doing away with the filibuster, which they have also indicated they will do. Try voting your way out of that once it happens.

Carl B.
Carl B.
11 days ago

Quote:

” In reality, this election will probably not be all that interesting or consequential.”

Couldn’t agree less with that statement.

Sandmich
Reply to  Carl B.
11 days ago

I don’t think it’s as consequential as it’s made out to be, but it may be the last time we genuinely get to vote for a president rather than a slate of party-approved apparatchiks.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Carl B.
11 days ago

A crazy miss by Zman, who nonetheless deserves our ongoing respect for what he does.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jim Smith
11 days ago

The Swamp will still be in place, the Anti-White Racism will still be in place.

I found it comforting that he said that, a sober assessment.

But then, I’m always dialed to “Eleventy! Extinction Level Event!!”, so I could use a bit of sobering.

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Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Alzaebo
11 days ago

Just upvoted Alza, just for the sobering comment, lol.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Carl B.
11 days ago

I too have to disagree with that assessment. I’ve seen too many twatter clips on line both from activists and from members of the last administration who have worked in various departments and this time around there is a “something” in the air, so to speak. Too many of them are not only openly calling for “something to be done” with their political opposition once they have control back, but several of these people – almost exclusively non-white of course – are laying the groundwork for how to actually accomplish it. That and we all know that this crowd has… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Steve
11 days ago

Those millions of guns and hundreds of millions of rounds of ammo were purchased for just this contingency.

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  abprosper
11 days ago

My Dear Sir absprosper, as regards the contingency- We may only hope so. Because with zero organization hope is all we have. I have some contingent experience, I assure you its not a day at the range. In truth I think you’ll find we’re the enemies weapons depot, common enough in war. The Taliban, Stonewall Jackson, Micheal Collins, Mao all profited greatly from their well stocked, ill led opponents, as did ISIS. In our case we’re not led at all. Nor are we “well regulated” ~ most people miss that part. That meant well organized, trained, supplied. A unit in… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Wind In The Willows
11 days ago

If it happens it won’t be Army vs Army but 4th Gen stuff , Asymmetrical warfare where on man lie Kyle or a few men can make a huge difference. Aufgstaktiks all the way down. In any case our ability to organize isn’t that bad, Even a tiny town like Klamath Falls Oregon was able to put 2000 men on the ground , that was nearly 10% of its population, maybe more depending on how many minors. There have been others too. What there isn’t is a national ideology. That means a lack of clear victory conditions beyond “we each… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

Even factoring in the lock down, the energy level of this election is dramatically lower than 2016. Trump supporters are a bit disappointed in him and don’t feel the same animosity toward Biden (though they would toward Harris if they paid attention). Biden supporters still hate Trump but are lukewarm about their candidate at be best. There’s also the sense that not much is really going to change regardless of who wins. Trump isn’t going to build the wall. Biden’s a leftover Dem who won’t rock the boat much. I also think that the country is coming to grips with… Read more »

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

I have been assuming there is no way Trump can win due to the ballot harvesting the Biden campaign will do. He doesn’t seem to be outperfoming his support in 2016 either. His margins in key states were so thin in 2016 Trump needed to perform better there to make up for increased fraud and demographic changes.

B124
B124
Reply to  Barnard
11 days ago

He spent 4 years talking about “lowest black, Hispanic, asian, and women” unemployment at his rallies filled with angry white men. How humiliating.

Now that the election is near, he goes anti-anti white again, banning CRT. Just like he talked about ending anchor babies before 2018.

Now, in term of facts, he has been good for white people- changes to refugee admissions, lowering immigration, lowering opioid overdoses.

He may win through the courts, around the mail in ballots. Probably not. If he loses it will be because he listened to Kushner and not Bannon.

Tablet Finder
Tablet Finder
Reply to  B124
11 days ago

“If he loses it will be because he listened to Kushner and not Bannon”

Save some of the blame for all the Covid cultists on this side of the aisle. They told seniors their lives didn’t matter, so now grandma is voting for Biden. After the election, you’ll still have to wear those masks and you’ll still have lockdowns, only the entire weight of the federal government will be enforcing them. Nice going there geniuses. Maybe you should have prioritized winning over fake machismo and “owning the libs.”

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  B124
11 days ago

I have bad news for you. The only category of immigration that’s been reduced is refugee resettlement. Oddly enough, the “FY19 immigration yearbook” statistics should be out by now, given that we’re in FY21 but for some reason that’s not the case.

Wind In The Willows
Wind In The Willows
Reply to  B124
11 days ago

Trump has been as good to us as he was capable of being.
The problem being he was completely incapable of defending us or our gains.
We lost freedom of religion, assembly, public safety, free speech – under Trump.
I will vote for him again, but expect no reversals of the fortunes of 2020. The man cannot fight.

He never learned how.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Absolutely. Biden is nobody’s first choice among Dems, except maybe those very aging working-class White guys who pay zero attention to what politicians actually say and continue to act like it’s 1965. (I’m related to one of them.) I’d even argue that the hatred for Trump doesn’t glow as hot for many White Dems. (Not sure blacks or Hispanics ever did hate Trump.) They still hate him personally – especially, liberal Upper Midwesterns who truly can’t stand his NYC personality – but Trump simply hasn’t been the dictator they predicted as much as they try to convince themselves. Assuming a… Read more »

Valley Lurker
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

“He isn’t presidential!” Love that one when they throw it out, since he isn’t as cool as a gay Kenyan.

Q-ship
Q-ship
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

The Real Clear Politics aggregate has Trump performing 0.6 points better in the top battleground states now compared with 2016. This probably predicts a similar Electoral College scenario to 2016. I could see an EC total anywhere from 330 or so for Trump to the same total for Biden. Biden will win the popular vote, of course, but that doesn’t matter.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Q-ship
11 days ago

Hillary didn’t win the popular vote in 2016. Think vote fraud in the dark-blue states (and others, come to think of it).

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jim Smith
11 days ago

Again, Cook County (Chicago) claimed 3M for Her, while the NSA- yes, that NSA, the National Security Agency- counted 12M for Him.

Obama’s friends in the media remember the key to any Big Lie is repetition, repetition, repetition.

(Plus there’s that little matter of 5M fraudulent votes in California alone, so factcheck Jim Smith: true

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Q-ship
11 days ago

“National Popular Vote Interstate Compact”

Learn to love it, because if Trump pulls up another Electoral college upset, I can guarantee you enough states will sign onto this end-run around the electoral college to where small states never need to bother voting again.

(“Small states” = all states not TX, CA, or NY)

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  ProZNoV
11 days ago

I know its the age of LARPING so working the system is what is in vogue and the right choice now. Heck a Trump victory might put an end to that at the supreme court level. However the US is already in an economic collapse spiral we won’t pull out of and way too many people are think Civil War is inevitable to put much a stop to that. Get yourself ready and make some dangerous friends because we are a few years out from the time when everybody on all sizes spontaneously realizes the Hutu were behaving sensibly given… Read more »

Sandmich
11 days ago

I do recall getting up the morning after the election in 2016 and pulling out my phone to see how badly Trump lost and if he maybe carried Ohio and then thinking “Wuh?!?”

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Sandmich
11 days ago

Not me. I stayed up until 3 a.m. I couldn’t sleep until the wooden stake was driven into the witch’s heart.

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B124
B124
Reply to  DLS
11 days ago

I watched until MI flipped.

Waking up to a red PA was a very pleasant and welcome surprise.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  DLS
11 days ago

4:00 am here. Great fun. Wonderful night.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jim Smith
11 days ago

You bet. We had a little party, even, and I fell asleep on the couch.

My dear, wonderful oldest sister lived long enough to see it- we were at her place- it meant the world to her, a lifelong FDR Democrat (born in 1935).

Sandmich
Reply to  DLS
11 days ago

I believed the polls so I didn’t even pretend to hope.
Something else forgotten is the number of conservatives who either didn’t vote, or voted while holding their nose the last time. Just listened to some Trump on Rush, I had forgotten how much of a verbal bomb-thrower that dude is (Trump, not Rush). He didn’t even wait for one bomb to go off before he started chucking more out the side. He’s good for entertainment if nothing else.

One of Many Georges
One of Many Georges
11 days ago

The “Biden up by 16” opinion “poll” reminds me of the great quote by Peter Hitchens:

“Opinion polls are a device for influencing public opinion, not a device for measuring it. Crack that, and it all makes sense.”

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MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  One of Many Georges
11 days ago

“The polls are over sampling Democrats!” Was Mitt Romney’s favorite cope circa October 2012

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

They were. He was just to weak to stand up to media pressure, and he hated anyone to his right. GOP liberals do not know how to defeat Democrat liberals. But the media knows how to neuter the Stupid Party cucks.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Epaminondas
11 days ago

And the polls today continue oversampling, possibly even more so than 2016, as part of the ongoing Marxist psychological warfare campaign against America.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

Maybe I’m harping on you too much, but you’re just dead wrong here. Perhaps it’s merely a signifier of advanced age, but pretty much no one above the age of 30 considered Romney a serious contender. Whatever copes he spouted forth we’re just what he had to say to play the game.

Sandmich
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

Romney and McCain both made a point to pull their punches against Barry O’Bama; McCain in particular is a guy who should have lost every state.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Sandmich
11 days ago

I remember Romney winning the first debate with Obama pretty handily and then backing off on the two subsequent ones.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Sandmich
11 days ago

Get it together, Sandmich! The name is “Barry Soetero“. 🙂

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  MemeWarVet
11 days ago

Nobody wanted to vote for that asshole Romney, least of all GOP voters. Ditto for the previous corrupt asshole McCain. Then came Trump. Think on that.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Jim Smith
11 days ago

I’d recommend separating your preferred outcome from the most likely one.

Its a lesson I learned the hard way in 2012z

Felix Krull
Member
11 days ago

Great section on the media.

There’s a variant of the Gell-Mann effect: today, thanks to the internet, we see and understand how fake media is, but we automatically assume that the media worked largely as advertised, back in the day, when the internet didn’t look over their shoulders. Nope, sorry, it was ALWAYS bullshit. All of it.

Call it the Gell-Mann-Krull effect – if for no other reason than the cool name.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Felix Krull
11 days ago

I interacted with the DC media back in the day. The media folk back then were your classic White liberal type. They didn’t like the Dirt people and wanted to rub their nose in diversity, but they didn’t want to completely overhaul the country, even if they were too stupid to realize that what they were pushing was going to lead to that result. They like living in a White country and wanted to rule that country. The wanted to run 1985 America. The new crop of media folk want to do more than rub our noses in diversity; they… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
11 days ago

The new crop of media folk want to do more than rub our noses in diversity; they want vengeance. They hate 1985 America. They want something completely new.

Good point.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Felix Krull
11 days ago

One thing my professor, a very wise Dutchman, told me that always stuck with me. Basically, all countries use propaganda but America is just better at it. The students were aghast (this was Reagan era and they didn’t want to believe it could be true).

Sandmich
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

It helps when one believes in their own bullSheet

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Felix Krull
11 days ago

I couldn’t agree more. The number one thing to keep in mind when looking at any historical event is to keep in mind the lying media was always lying. Take the lesson of Charlottesville and apply it backwards. Emmit Till was the Michael Brown and Travon Martin of his day. The “non-violent” “freedom riders” were as non-violent as the non-violent anti-racist Antifa. Charlottesville is a pretty amazing example of this. Every single person who attended Charlottesville had a high definition video camera with them and scores if not hundreds of those people had sizeable social media followers . Despite Charlottesville… Read more »

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  tarstarkas
11 days ago

My gosh, that made the past bloom and bloom again in my mind.

In many ways, the times were shockingly savage- yet it was all ignored, or made to seem normal, fringe eddies in the Long Grill of the postwar peace.

(I mean, Samoan surfers in San Bernadino carrying pliers to pull out a tooth after doing a “curbie”, breaking an arm or fingers against a curb with a 2×4– we don’t even remember those guys against the union Mob assaults, black pimps and streetwalkers, Cuban bloody hits, Lefty bombings and United Slaves…and riots every where MLK appeared!)

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Alzaebo
11 days ago

LOL. I sometimes will be sitting having a beer at a pub and with old friends, and the shit that used to be a daily occurrence just boggles the mind. The violence, the savagery of everything. But it seemed normal. And then I talk to these millennials, and it’s like their lives have been so sheltered. That may explain the appeal of busting up the city as antifa.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

A good portion of them just use it as an excuse to do antisocial stuff without any of the usual consequences.

usNthem
usNthem
11 days ago

Dang Z. This take is discouraging – what’s it gonna take to get the revolution going? I want to see deep state heads rolling.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  usNthem
11 days ago

Not going to happen. Eventually things will come apart, but it won’t be because of us, it will be because what the Left are trying to do can’t be done.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
11 days ago

This is a rare time I completely disagree with you, not in the narrow sense the election results are meaningless as to policy–they have not meant jack shit for decades–but as to what they will represent. This will mark the end of free and fair elections in the United States. The 2016 contest would have (and kind of did) but the Left had no inkling they would lose. Here are the most likely results in order of probability. Results are not know election night, and possibly never are known. The Left engages in massive fraud and everything is dragged into… Read more »

David Wright
Member
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

I’m surprised that you didn’t make more of the voter fraud peril as to how will affect Trump’s chances. Did I miss that?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Good points. But there have been elections since the JFK theft where the fingers weren’t on the scale or at didn’t seem to be. Rigged elections are about to become a permanent feature. Civic nationalist mythology indeed is dying rapidly. People will be cool with a police state as long as they have some wealth and aren’t oppressed outright. Not certain either of those things will last, though.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Jack Dobson
11 days ago

I think the police state will have more of a depressive effect. It goes unsaid, but the reality of life is that the reward America offers is not worth the effort to obtain it if you have any self-respect. So say you get rich, well that means you have to intertwine your existence with Jewry and political correctness and black worship. That’s a big disincentive. Who is going to want to bust their asses if that is the prize? Similarly, who is going to want to bust their ass if it means you make money but have minimal freedom and… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

Perhaps for you and me, but the sociopaths out there? I suspect they will be happy to do whatever it takes in our “new” America.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  CompscI
11 days ago

Yep, the thought of having to spend my life navigating ((JJJ)) world and black world makes me want to shoot myself

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Falcone
11 days ago

That’s not how it works by and large. People will still kill themselves to maintain scintilla distinction apart from the unwashed masses. Social status means everything to a significant percentage of folks in the US.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
11 days ago

Oh I’m sure, but for me and I’m sure most white men, they’d rather be dead than have to spend their days backslapping guys like Epstein and taking blacks seriously and having them at your house and so forth

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
11 days ago
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ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Judge Smails
11 days ago

For me when much younger, when I didn’t have a pot to P in and lived off ramen noodles, it was Vuarnet sunglasses. All the kewl kidz wore the outrageously-priced Vuarnets and thus I had to own them.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
11 days ago

Get ready for the Left to implement, “the Mark of the Beast,” via social credit, financial incentives, and biosecurity tyranny.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
11 days ago

If they can cut off your bank account a la Mark Collett-

In a cashless world, you starve in a battered car with no gas.

Been there. I lived in that car, and was banned from banks for seven years. You really don’t want to be waving your arms in the fog at the truck gate yelling, “hey! Lump your load for 30 bucks!”, along with a dozen other bums.

(Three months before, I’d practically been sleeping in 3-piece suits. My world was brass, glass, and marble.)

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Alzaebo
11 days ago

When I first moved to L.A. I did something similar, with a meth head before I even knew what meth was, but we’d scrape money together and go from cheap hooker motel to cheap hooker motel on Sepulveda. This was for maybe one year. I don’t see how I did it looking back, but don’t want to be back in that place. Great stories though.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Jack Dobson
11 days ago

Rigged elections have been around since Tammany Hall.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  thezman
11 days ago

Wherever there is power, or money, or prestige, people will cheat in proportion of how much there is to gain to get it. The Presidency is the ultimate confluence of all three.

The US Federal annual budget is literally TRILLIONS.

Sure, they’ll be rigging/cheating on a massive scale. But team R wants to get it’s beak wet at that massive well just as badly as team D. They’ll fight just as hard for it.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Jack Dobson
11 days ago

Personal hypothesis is they are pumping the public polls to create a “Biden is inevitable” sentiment–though the internal polling is likely much different. So, should they lose, the color revolution gets turned on under the guise that “election fraud must have stolen the election”, but unlike 2016 they are prepared this time. The tech tyrants are ready to shut down any counter argument in social and regular media, the lawyers are in place and the mobs have been running dress rehearsals for months. “It puts the Biden in or else it gets the riots again”