The Day After Tomorrow

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The general consensus regarding the future of the American Empire is that it is headed for demise like all empires. The rapidly declining quality of the ruling elite in general and the political class in particular is the biggest sign. Then there is the changing demographics, which will reach a point where the human capital of the empire can no longer support empire. Then there is the life cycle of all empires. This one, while short lived, seems to be in the late phase of that cycle.

Most people focus on the question of when the empire will collapse, as that provides the most thrilling scenarios. The truth is though, empires collapse in slow motion, rather than in a bang. It is like a fall down a long flight of stairs, in which the empire hits some long landings where it seems to right itself for a period. Then it is another tumble down the stairs until it hits another landing. It is only in the fullness of time that the decline and fall of the empire looks like the familiar arc.

A different question worth pondering is what will the decline and fall look like for the average person living in the empire? For the people living in the provinces, it will look like the past, in that Europe and Asia will simply gain their independence. France may become a vassal of Germany or Russia, but that is just the same condition with a different management team at the top. Europe will get poorer and more violent, but that will mostly be due to massive migration from Africa.

In North America, we have some hints as to what post-empire America will look like for the typical person. This post on American Greatness goes into the third world nature of large swaths of current year America. California now looks more like Sinaloa Mexico than the old America of the young empire. There are nice modern parts for sure, but there are backward primitive parts, as well. Just like the Roman Empire, it is the infrastructure that is the leading edge of decline.

Empires that can no longer maintain their borders tend to attract large peasant classes, because long after the empire’s peak, it remains a better place to be poor than outside the empire. America lost control of its borders a generation ago, so something like fifty million people have relocated to America. There may be that many more operating inside the country illegally. The fact that no one knows or cares about the illegal population is one of those signs of collapse.

Another vision for post-empire America, is post-empire Spain. One of the interesting aspects of that period is how power devolved to local power centers. The Visigothic Kingdom ruled over what is now Spain. They were central Europeans who had moved west from the Danube Valley, first under the protection of the Western Roman Empire, but then by conquest after the fall of Rome. The kingdom maintained independence for about three centuries.

The thing is though, the kingdom was a polite fiction in many ways as the Gothic rulers had limited control of their territory. They were dependent on those local power centers that evolved in the late Roman empire. The emerging Catholic Church was one power center, but so were local ruling elites located in cities like Seville and Toledo. This is the root of antisemitism, by the way. Jews were powerful players in Gothic politics, a rival to the Church for influence over the secular authorities.

That’s probably the future of North America. The federal government will carry on long after it can exert control over the whole of the country. We see that today with the inability of the political class to do the obvious with the tech oligarchs. Today, global enterprise, finance and technology are outside the scope of government authority and often the whip hand in the relationship. We’re seeing states and cities in open revolt now, refusing to abide by federal laws.

One question no one in power thinks about is whether or not these new oligarchs can survive without the national government. The oligarchs that emerged from the Soviet empire were rooted in practical things like oil and gas. American oligarchs have power over abstract concepts that exist only because the state protects them. Both finance and technology are able to siphon off the wealth of the middle-class, because the middle-class supports the state, which protects this racket.

Put another way, Bolshevism made the Soviet empire artificially poorer, as it compelled inefficiency in the economy. It also proved to be a costly form of rule. Collapse freed the economy of the empire, allowing the new oligarchs to emerge. Liberal democracy makes the empire artificially richer, as it relies upon financial legerdemain to pull forward the proceeds of labor and capital. The cost of rule is subsidized by the social capital it consumes to perpetuate itself.

Is it possible for local power centers to emerge in North America, when the regions no longer have an identity of their own? Is it possible for local rule, when the local elites are just as inept and corrupt as the national elites? It is hard to imagine California lasting very long as an independent state. Its ruling class is clownish and stupid, a collection of petulant children. How hard would it be for the drug cartels to push them aside and turn the state into another narco-state?

The Soviet system rewarded cleverness and intrigue but it was founded on force, so there was always a role for those willing to act. The American system rewards guile, but increasingly has no role for assertiveness and force. It is why America has become so bad at waging war. It is possible that we now lack the required lions to push aside the foxes, even when the foxes die. It means a long period of chaos in which a new generation of lions can emerge to seize control.

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Moe Noname
Moe Noname
3 years ago

USN warships run by women who can’t sail.

A Chinese military that doesn’t sink them because they don’t want to.

Soma popping elite who only want to “Get Trump!”.

Nero and his fiddle.

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  Moe Noname
3 years ago

…and me tapping on my screen, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing…

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Moe Noname
3 years ago

Dunno about that attitude. Words matter. I was one of THOUSANDS of people at the Trump truck rally that ran from Irvington to Pawling — as in NEW YORK. Thousands. Bikers, every kind of heavy machinery. Peaceful. Fun. Yet, go ahead and try and find coverage in what passes for the “media” these days. The ‘local’ Patch? Nope, young leftists there. The Journal News, the local paper of record (that doxxed all registered gun owners in New York’s Westchester County during the ghey mulatto era). Nope, nothing. A couple of mentions in local online rags, the one in Irvington leads… Read more »

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  Owlman
3 years ago

I heard about a large pro-Trump caravan, running along Merrick Blvd in Nassau & Suffolk (Long Island, east of NYC). Heard about it word of mouth, nary a mention on the TeeVee news or local rags

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

This one was separate from the Long Island one and had two caravans, one moving north from Irvington, NY and another moving south, from Pawling, NY. This event was the biggest thing to take place in multiple towns, and two counties to boot. The only term to describe it would be “information suppression”. Active suppression, making the suppressors Oppressors. The energy was just amazing. You could not miss the mix of demographics, including many, many young people in their 20’s. What really stood out is that seemingly every single form of blue collar worker was represented by their vehicles. From… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

I’ve kept track of these massive Trump rallies on various YouTube channels. Steve Turley is a good source for this news. He also does good analysis work as in the video I linked where he shows exactly how the polls are wrong and offers good data-driven counter evidence. Yes, he’s quite the MAGAtard but just look at the evidence he posts. I think he shows a “Biden Rally” in that video too with a tiny group of sad looking people seated in high chairs inside circles on the ground 6′ apart. It looks like a bunch of naughty children being… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

The Arizona Biden rally a couple of days ago had literally zero attendees.
The news anchor was like “Its kind of boring here” and “the only people I see are campaign workers.” all the while looking perplexed.
As for the news not covering stories, Its not a surprise though its going to cost them if things go hot. Since Clinton reporters are now considered valid targets.
Given this is too the knife, knife to hilt. its going to be very ugly if we can’t find some way to prevent it.

Based5.0
Based5.0
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

They had one in Lexington over the weekend. There was some local coverage, although they made sure to get plenty of shots of the handful of anti- Trump protestors standing along the road. One of the co- bloggers over at Ace of Spades brought up something yesterday: If it weren’t for the polls, what metrics could you point to that would “prove” Biden was ahead? You’ve got Trump parades (boat, cars, golfcarts) all over the place. Trump has well- attended rallies when Biden can’t draw a dozen people who aren’t employees of his campaign. There are stories all over the… Read more »

Epaminondas
Member
3 years ago

Very good analysis. But our actual decline may be rapid, as it was in Once-Great Britain. Consider that the British (and French) actually thought they had won a great victory after the Treaty of Versailles had been signed. The events of the following 25 years ripped the cover off that conceit. We could well be in a position that suddenly reveals to the rest of the planet that we are fragile, that our leadership is corrupt, and that our population is largely atomized, feckless, and demoralized. That is not a combination that faces down a national crisis.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

As I recall, it was Ike’s response to the Suez Crisis that taught Britain and France they were no longer major powers.

Shame, because they, with the Israelis, easily had Nasser on the ropes. Nasser was not a guy worth throwing our WW2 allies under the bus for.

RealityBit
RealityBit
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

The CIA in the person of Kermit Roosevelt made Nasser.

Then he gave us all no end of trouble.

amon
amon
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

What I find interesting is that Bretton Woods,the Vietnam defeat did not teach Americans that the US was a broken power.
I mean the writ of the US government does not run in large areas of the country and yet people unironically talk of a superpower.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Nasser, the Soviet asset?
Ike, who opposed Britain/France at the Suez- and who refused to advance past the Elba River?

My goodness. One might think the butcher of Rhineland Meadows wanted to protect the USSR.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

The collapse of empire in Britain was a good thing though. The kind of empire they had is very expensive to run. Now the British have extracted themselves from yet another empire.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

And jumped straight into the fire of multiculturalism. Such a victory!

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

The biggest problem (and what will hasten our demise) is the lack of confidence in our system due to rampant corruption. That will cause the flight of any investment that still desires a safe place as well as loss of reserve currency status. If we had a solid domestic manufacturing base, we could possibly weather such a storm until the ship of state was put aright. Perhaps refining capabilities and oil production might still allow us to survive. But when your economy is heavily financialized, even the perception, much more the reality, that there are other, less corrupt places to… Read more »

jake
jake
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

Not true- the British opposed the main terms of Versailles. The Belgians and then the French pushed for reparations and a mutual defense treaty The British went along but changed their mind, sadly the Americans went the other way.France was well aware of the threat of a resurgent Germany, the US promised a defence treaty but congress reneged.France tried to split off the Rhineland from Germany and occupied it at one point.Britain was aware of the threat of Japan in the Pacific and the rise of the US hence their agreement to the 1930 London naval treaty limiting the size… Read more »

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  jake
3 years ago

And yet…we have the spectacle of today’s “Britain”. Explain that.

usNthem
usNthem
3 years ago

The American system used include assertiveness and force, but the will to utilize them has pretty much withered away. I blame the ‘60’s, which marked the beginning of the end. “Make love, not war” and all the other hippy type bullshit. Even though I’m technically part of that generation, I hated those f******, and still do. Even with all our supposed technological superiority, we can’t clearly beat a bunch of illiterate goat herders. We don’t have the will, and haven’t for decades – they do. A sad ending for what was a pretty cool country at one time.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

It was a pretty cool country at one time. Sadly, we all realize it won’t be a pretty cool country in the future.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Hoagie
3 years ago

I’ll have to live in that country, so I can’t share your pessimism 🙂

bob sykes
bob sykes
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Americans and America are like Bradbury’s indigenous Martians–they are gone.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Whites need to band together. In a way, it’s already happening whether consciously or not. When beach bums like me start thinking of a move to the hollers of Appalachia, you know something is going on.

Sid
Sid
Member
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Nuts like me made the move 20 yrs ago. But come along. We need Sargents

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Sid
3 years ago

I am taking a few weeks off in a few months and will be touring places I have taken an interest in merely from looking at topo maps and street views. Something about the westerly areas of Virginia are calling my name. I know the politics suck, but as long as there is a decent castle doctrine I feel ok.

Based5.0
Based5.0
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

If by “westerly Virginia counties,” you actually mean the state of West Virginia, you’re probably okay. I don’t know that I’d count on the castle doctrine lasting too much longer in regular Virginia. They’ve gone full- retard against the 2nd Amendment as of late.

B124
B124
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Hehe.

Leftist onlyfans ethot I know: I just, ugh, hate the city so much, I can’t wait to move away. I wonder why. She doesn’t know why. But it’s pushing us together anyways.

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Not all of that “hippy type” stuff was “bullshit.” For example, a Canadian epileptic with serious genetic defects and who is a major Hero of The Left wrote these prophetic words in 1967:

Stick around while the clown who is sick does the trick of disaster

For once the Canadian was right. And the vast majority of us are merely watching the sick Clown – and doing nothing.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

Who?

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

neil young

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

A Southern man don’t need him around anyhow.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

Neil Young, apparently. Who also wrote Cortez the Killer: On the shore lay Montezuma With his coca leaves and pearls In his halls he often wandered With the secrets of the worlds And his subjects Gathered ’round him Like the leaves around a tree In their clothes of many colors For the angry gods to see And the women all were beautiful And the men stood Straight and strong They offered life in sacrifice So that others could go on Hate was just a legend And war was never known The people worked together And they lifted many stones Some… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

“Cortez The Killer” is one of my top 10 hate-fuck songs. The music is so damn good, but those lyrics were written by the likes of a freshman under the spell of his pinko history professor.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Very true. His best work on guitar imo, but the lyrics are literally juvenile.

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Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Yep….life is messy.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Watch Mel Gibson’s “Apocalypto” . for a historicly correct view of the aztec’s

jimmy
jimmy
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

Lets see… Canadian heroin addicts that are right. ???

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Have faith and look at the bright side. We may eventually be the goat herders.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Hah! There’s something to look forward to!

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

You can’t win without a valid goal and “more money for defense contractors.” while good and fine if you are a defense contractor, does not a victory condition make.

RealityBit
RealityBit
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Until the Boomers pass we shall suffer. Once they pass much easier. Work to do, always was, always will be. Probably war.
Always was, always will be.

sentry
sentry
3 years ago

Europe will get poorer and more violent, but that will mostly be due to massive migration from Africa.
europe will look like venezuela, whites will get stabbed if they’re poor, if they’re rich they’ll get kidnaped.
This needs to happen though, otherwise europeans will never let go of their low iq “vibrancy is a virtue” ideology.
The only solution for europe are african heads on the walls, boat sinking & stop giving food & money to africa & israel.

Last edited 3 years ago by sentry
Drake
Drake
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Europe has repelled invaders before. Those countries that wish to survive will do so again in very efficient European fashion.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

never an immigration wave so big, there’s A LOT of africans & arabs to kill, white race won’t die though, it will revive like the phoenix. Point being europeans aren’t tied to dirt, even if Europe gets filled with a billion filth, europeans’ll migrate, regroup, renounce the weak egalitarian ideologies and start wrecking havok on the demonic races.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Spain was ruled by North African Muslims and administered by their Jewish clerks for 770 years. Both the Muslims and Jews were expelled shortly after their defeat at Granada in 1492.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Because the Vikings were converted to Christianity and took Spain, Sicily and the Holy land within 300 years.

Who will be the Normans?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

…with incalculable cultural loss to the newly-minted nation of Spain. The next one or two hundred years was the peak of their empire which began a long slow decline around 1700 AD that hasn’t stopped yet.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Spain bled itself white in a numerous, incessant wars in Europe and had a series of idiot kings who could not leverage their wealth into useful programs.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Maybe this is all a long game to turn Europe into Africa, and Africa into Europe by switching populations. Imagine!

sentry
sentry
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

time will tell, I was thinking more of northern asia and maybe even central asia.
Russia will never get the white population up by pandering to women, they’ll invite whites in, americans could move to russia’s east coast, western europeans could move to other eastern european countries.
After europeans get their heads straight, they take women rights away, in the meantime non whites starve like the braindead zombies they are, then whites go back and reclaim what was initially theirs, no more corporations and jewish clowns this time.

Last edited 3 years ago by sentry
Member
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Russia continues to impress as shown here. They are actually doing something to help South African whites. This is Dr. Steve Turley again. Another reason I like his channel is that he keeps an eye on relevant international events. He’s not part of /our thing/ yet but he seems more based than the typical MAGA guy.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Europe–at least Western Europe and a great deal of SE Asia–has been garrisoned at the expense of the American taxpayer since WWII. Many of these countries don’t want us there. Some have repeated plebiscites where they vote for us to leave. Many of us are tired of “Team America World Police” and would like to spend that money here on our own people and our own infrastructure, but those with real power say no. One thing should be clear to all but the cognitively impaired: our “elected” officials do not answer to the American Voter of any party.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

When Trump tried to withdraw forces, he was met with a giant FU from the pentagon brass and the Senate.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

In his first year (2017) he increased forces in the ME by a third. And every year after that until reelection time and the Cheney coalition organized against him doing a draw-down. https://tinyurl.com/y9bos45g BTW, It’s all Public Record. https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/appj/dwp/dwp_reports.jsp It’s all there by law for your perusal.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

True. And Europe has maintained its whiteness far better than “America.”

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Europe embraces the multi-cult nonsense because America forces them to and would chastise them and deprive them economically and militarily if they didn’t

America is the biggest problem for western civ right now, strange as it may seem

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

can’t agree more

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

A weird copy-cat thing that happened in Western Europe. They went out of their way to import strangers just so they could harangue the natives about tolerance and diversity while building up their welfare programs. I visited the UK in 1986 and did not see a non-white person after leaving the airport.

B124
B124
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

I visited Italy in 2016. The airport was full of hijabs. Coming out of the central train station in Milan, I was blinded by masses of Africans loitering about the main square. Italy is BLACKED. I saw Filipinos and Arabs everywhere in the poorer suburbs. Blacks begging for money and Bangladeshis selling trinkets and scams everywhere.

It’s just a museum at this point, cool architecture built by some old white guys in the past. And with a fertility rate of 1.2 I don’t see how Italians will recover.

It’s tragic. Millenia of work destroyed in a few decades.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  B124
3 years ago

Italians will go back to what they’re good at, low level warfare and street fighting, gangs, etc. I know a lot of normie Americans typically mock the French as wimps, but there are two groups of people I advise American tourists never to get into a street fight with, and that be French and Italians. Everything is mapped out, they hide weapons where only they know, they will use the environment to incredible advantage, etc. That kind of fighting, however, is what will be needed to clear out the streets along with the local forces. Italians know this, they know… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  B124
3 years ago

Visited Venice in 2002 and saw black Africans loitering along the Grand Canal. Never have I seen anything as aesthetically jarring as that. They simply don’t belong there.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  B124
3 years ago

When I visited Rome for the first time about 16 years ago there were already dozens of brown people of indeterminate origin hawking knock-off handbags and sunglasses around the Colosseum. They’d lay their wares out on a blanket and a lookout would watch for the Polizia. When they’d occasionally show up the junk peddlers would roll up their contraband, run away, and a few minutes later return and start the farce all over again. Haven’t been back since the great invasion started in earnest. It’s probably like that everywhere now except they no longer pretend to fear being punished.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

I don’t think they “went out of their way.” After WWII Britain let in many from former colonies, the Gemans imported Turks, and France had to let the Algerians in. It was only after HRC’s disastrous murder of Gaddafi (who was complying w/ weapons inspectors) that the flotillas began and have not ceased.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

The American ambassador to Poland was just scolding them for not embracing the homosexual movement. Good diplomacy that. Real diplomatic. We used to worry about our ambassadors “going native.” Maybe we should worry we are sending out school marms in the diplomatic corps.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

The State department is the most poz’d organ of government and has been for decades. Until (if) a President or Congress truly attempts to dismantle and reorganize, nothing will change.

B124
B124
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

I tend to agree. Average Europeans don’t really seem that cucked. They are more leftist and socially progressive than Americans but they still seem to like their countries, like their people, and the pure bugman we see in the USA is absent.

They are under massive pressure to be obedient to globohomo but we will see how they are in the future. European nationalist movements seem much more promising than American ones.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  B124
3 years ago

All south and catholic Europe needs is a Pope to paint the Muslims as the problem, and northern Europe will need, perhaps, the vestiges of monarchy to do the same. Once that switch is flipped, new ball game. And it will happen, only a matter of when. People just need to know who the enemy is. It will revert back to an ethno-religious battle. Always does.

billrla
Member
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Falcone: The Vatican seems to have other plans.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  billrla
3 years ago

well said, i’m 99% certain vatican ain’t even christian, some are pagans or satanists, most are gay atheists.
Christianity is a front for them, if Europe gets occupied by muslims, the pope will jump ship first.

Last edited 3 years ago by sentry
Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  billrla
3 years ago

Yes, you are 100% correct about the RC Church looking at it from a snapshot of today. But in time, it is going to get back to its roots. Same with the monarchy. It is going to take a generation or two if I had to hazard a guess, but it will happen. Like I say, it always does.

Valley Lurker
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Well, we’re gonna be waiting for a long time in that instance, regarding Pope’s at least…speaking of naming your enemy.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Valley Lurker
3 years ago

This current fraud of a Pope will be hanging from a lamppost

He is an imposter

A lot of people feel that way. As in any organization, there are a number of “dissidents” who are like us. Don’t be surprised if the “coup” happens in our lifetimes.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  B124
3 years ago

Part of that is the multi-party system where they get a percentage of seats based upon percentage of votes, rather than the winner-take-all system we have. I am sure such a system has drawbacks, but it also allows smaller factions some political power.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Like the man said: “I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused.” When Charlie Kirk was celebrating the legalization of teh ghey sex in Botswana all the Groypers were “reminding” him that Israel still doesn’t have ghey marriage and when was TPUSA going to take up that cause? LoL.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

This needs to happen though, otherwise europeans will never let go of their low iq “vibrancy is a virtue” ideology.

Populist-nationalist parties have been skyrocketing in the polls for the last decade at least, and in Europe, “nationalist” implicitly means “white nationalist”.

In Sweden, the nationalist party polls just shy of 25%, and Sweden is nowhere near as diversified as the US. How many white nationalists are there in Congress?

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

i don’t care about the brexit/italexit/etc parties or the “immigrants need to find jobs or go home” type of nationalist parties, I want the nazi type parties, that’s our only salvation.

Rodger
Rodger
3 years ago

I do not think the government has an inability to defend against the foxes. They have shown they can quickly stop the white fox from claiming any area for power. What will become of the military an organization I spent 20 years in? It is already subverted by the Left at the top positions. It is actively pursuing even more diversity and perversity. It will join the Left in suppression of the white foxes.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Rodger
3 years ago

I agree – but as it does so it will rapidly become less effective and respected. The gender-neutral woke military will be utterly useless in foriegn conflicts and probably ineffective at domestic oppression – hastening the demise of the empire.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Yes. I tend to agree with that analysis. Certainly, in every other field diversity has proven destructive and has led to reduced efficiency. At the very least, as long as soldiers are needed to conduct proper warfare (no drones, tech stuff) I can imagine diversity to be crippling to that end.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

This is true. It places our military in a position of relying too much on nuclear deterrents. Our opponents know this and will attempt to draw us into conflicts that will continue to demoralize and divide us. They will play to our weaknesses. Girl soldiers will never win wars.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

That’s interesting because I think most of the nukes are based in Red territory at siloes and airbases.

There is the submarine force, but that is one of the few remaining meritocracies staffed by mostly white guys.

If locals in Montana and the Dakotas could sever the kill circuits tied to DC and Cheyenne Mountain, the balance of power changes overnight.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

Excellent point. The nukes that deter Iran can’t deter Virginia or Indiana, because nuking your next door neighbor is worse for you than him. The decline of martial tactical abilities is a real problem when nukes and bombs are a bluff.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

Very good point. When the elite know the deaths will not be limited to White boys from the South and Midwest, they will back off (and have). China knows this. Russia knows this. Iran knows this. When it becomes obvious nuclear exchanges are on the table, the Empire will be forced to retreat. When people list the import of Trump, chief among the reasons should be waking up the Right to the evils of militarism..

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

This system could hang on for decades, or one single push from the outside could collapse the whole thing. We shall see.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

A push from the outside could be a good thing. It might wake up the “normies”. I still remember the Sputnik stunt as a child. It caused a nationwide push to increase our emphasis on science and technology in our school systems. We were now in a “brain” race with the russkies.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

A push from the outside might also cause temporary unification, and therefore push the fissures under the surface only to re-emerge after the outside threat is gone. Not sure how desirable that is.

Aegis
Aegis
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

I think it depends on the conflict. WWI destroyed Austria-Hungary. An unjust war waged against a powerful opponent like China or perhaps Europe might be the catalyst that brings down the whole enterprise. Imagine a war initiated by racist non-Whites in a future multi-cult United States against Europe. Would Whites fight for this country or against it? You already saw the potential for this during the Democrat party primary debates of 2020. Andrew Yang, ethnic Chinese, deflected from his tribe when asked what the number one threat to American primacy was. He preposterously claimed “Russia.” Regardless of your feelings towards… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

I suspect the push will come from the inside, possibly in the form of a putsch.

Sid
Sid
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Godspeed

miforest
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

Didn’t we get a little biological push in march? it destroyed the rule of law and the constitution in a couple of weeks and installed many local absolute rulers in their place

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  miforest
3 years ago

Yes and its speeding up the classic collapse cycle as well. The larger cities NYC Portland Oregon (19th largest MSA) and probably Seattle among others have no recovery plan and will gradually fall into even worse disrepair. I’ve seen regular NYC people who love their city saying NYC won’t come back and its so bad in Seattle (and this pre COVID) the local news KOMO ran a piece called Seattle is Dying. Meanwhile smaller communities still function well enough. Klamath Falls OTOH can drop 2k guys on the ground. All of us are witnessing collapse in a very short period,… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Think about all the enormously complex, high-maintenance military gear the Pentagon has.

Then realize that women and non-whites are incapable of preventive maintenance, troubleshooting, repair, fabricating replacement parts, managing obsolescence, or jerry-rigging workarounds.

This is why all that fancy gear is irrelevant in any prolonged conflict involving a Woke US military.

Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

The most likely fate of a woke military is that quality whites will avoid it**. This will force recruiters to increase their efforts to target hispanics and less capable whites. Overlooking felonies will be routine. Since the drug cartels have deep reach in the US this will eventually mean the cartels using their presence in the military to get weapons and training. Low class whites organize around WN principles, and blacks with rally around black separatist ideology. In short, just imagine a typical prison where the inmates are all heavily armed. Of course I’m aware that this stuff is already… Read more »

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

Agreed … I think that the same issues will impact police recruitment … what White guy would want to be a cop in a metropolitan area?

Aegis
Aegis
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

The American military will be backed up by myriad secret police (ATF, FBI, CIA, ADL, SPLC, various NGOs), the media, the finance sector, and the tech industry. I expect them to be quite effective at suppressing domestic disturbance for some time, absent only a natural disaster or large war with China or Russia. Of course, in the far future diversity and racial envy will change things (the US will end up like Zimbabwe: self-inflicted economic basket case), but over the next few decades an authoritarian regime can be maintained. In the case of antifa violence, that’s only tolerated because the… Read more »

jimmy
jimmy
Reply to  Rodger
3 years ago

It looks like you are correct as they are now closing Parris Island basic training due to cost to implement “integrated training”. I am sure this foretells bad things for the USMC and the country. Maybe China won’t notice.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  jimmy
3 years ago

That’s a horrible sign.

I saw a clip of Jocko Willink (ex Navy SEAL) discussing the difference between his force and Green Berets with an ex-Green Beret, and both of them gave huge praise to the Marines for being extremely squared away and doing more with less.

RealityBit
RealityBit
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Well now they can do even less, no tanks, no armor, just all arty and grunts take a back seat to high tech. What could go wrong?

Its only the most infantry intensive fsking culture in modern human fsking history, possibly since the Spartan Hoplites. 90% of USMC is 0311R or whatever they call Infantry these days.

Sure, lets close Parris Island too.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  RealityBit
3 years ago

It really is just amazing that seemingly every institution from top to bottom has been infected with woketardism. The idea that everything must reflect our society and its makeup and “diversity”. And of course, we must include and respect the ideas and perspectives of that awesome diversity – what could we possibly accomplish w/o them? Jesus H. Christ! Nothing matters anymore except checking off the GD boxes! Merit and ability are purely secondary or tertiary qualifications. Bring on the collapse – I’m figuring the Roman disintegration took so long because they couldn’t have possibly been this moronic. We, or should… Read more »

Aegis
Aegis
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

The same was true of the Soviet Union. One reason their economy was so terrible derived from the fact that those who managed it were promoted in accordance to their loyalty to party doctrine, not merit or results. The same is coming to the United States. In fact, it’s already here.

Alex
Alex
Reply to  jimmy
3 years ago

As a former Recon Marine it pains me to say this but the current Commandant pushing this nonsense seems to have gone around the Woke Bend. I wouldn’t be surprised if he identified as “Coast Guard” after all is said and done.

RealityBit
RealityBit
Reply to  jimmy
3 years ago

What is the name of that new Commandant of the USMC?

Oh yes – General David Berger..
lets have a look…hmm, other than the schnoz nothing too obvious. He ordered the removal of all Confederate symbols from USMC bases too.
He also got rid of the Tanks and armor, and his doctrine is rocket artillery not grunts. Bit of a debate on some of these points.

I’m sure he won’t be taking a job with Goldman or Kushner whenever his tour of ruin is up.

Very popular I’m sure.
Nothing to see here.

BerndV
Member
Reply to  Rodger
3 years ago

A defeat at the hands of a ruthless China in the South China Sea will begin the death spiral for the woke military. Of course, the woketards will shriek that any defeat is the fault of racists and white supremacists who must be ripped out of the military root and branch.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  BerndV
3 years ago

We aren’t going to war with China. Its too risky for us to be seen as a paper tiger.
That said if the three gorges damn bites it and its not in great shape now, all bets are off. We might try for a kill shot since most of China’s domestic production would go away and on top the food crisis they already have.

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  Rodger
3 years ago

Agreed … I just saw an Air Force commercial that proudly displayed only female pilots and at the end of it had them all (30 or 40) standing in front of some fighter jets with their game-faces on, ready for combat … disgusting

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
3 years ago

It’s important that as the night descends over us (and I think it’s coming) that we not lose sight of the fact that, as bad as the underclass and Third World elements are, they are the tool wielded and not the ones responsible for this. In the last four months, as businesses that have been in operation for sometimes 200 years or more go under, and people are forcibly retired, the net worth of the billionaire class rose by 25 percent in those same four months. Maybe they’ll flee, go abroad with their wealth or exercise right of return for… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

They aren’t that wealthy anyway. A bunch of numbers on paper, not vaults of gold. If things get bad they won’t be much better off. All it would take is a repudiation of debt to wipe a lot of ‘wealth’ out.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Yep. Monopoly money won’t cut it. However, any gazillionnaire worth his salt will have converted some portion of their “wealth” into real assets—land, commodities, etc. However, they need stability and rule of law to maintain them. That is what puzzles me. Where do they expect to find them? If America goes after their assets, why would any other country protect them?

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

they are not thinking that far ahead. My guess is they can’t

They are new to money and wealth, the large majority of them, and don’t have that long-term planning gene or those ideas bred into them that you see with families with generational wealth.

Their riches will go as fast as they came — not unlike the black sports ball star.

Sandmich
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

That’s always a puzzler, it’s like they’ve never heard the phrase “land reform” as they go about buying half the acreage in Montana.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

It’s part of the Great Reset.

Total freedom and wealth for the Davos elite, Green New Deal neo-feudalism for us serfs.

TammyFan
TammyFan
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

+100!! Yes, their plans for us are quite public. Read World Economic Forum documents and listen to their spokesman Klaus Schwab: THE GREAT RESET & AGENDA 21 & AGENDA 2030 They plan on a cashless society, a social credit system and everybody chipped(and “vaccinated”) for total surveillance. They plan on the serfs living in pods in smart cities, eating insects and lab grown meat.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

So the question is are you going to accept that or band together and do what is necessary so that doesn’t happen to you…

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

The people here are still in shock but are getting organized. That said the great planners at Davos may find that the best laid plans of mice and men oft go astray and that the pod life they envision for everyone just isn’t doable. Its also won’t help as the human fertility rate becomes below replacement forever which is what happens when you go urban. Part of the COVID panic is because each person that dies, young or old, from neglect, despair or any other cause means one less citizen . While no doubt the Malthusians are rejoicing, ruling over… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  abprosper
3 years ago

It won’t be easy but far better death for everyone than slavery to another.
I’m beginning to think that most would rather have slavery than to put in the work to be free even if it means death as long as it’s comfortable slavery… Everyone is in a holding pattern right now it seems until the election happens thing is there will always be something that will keep you in a holding pattern unless you decide that you want to change your outcome…

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

Modernity is very much a gilded cage but its not sustainable no matter what Davos Man thinks.

Sandmich
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

I just don’t think it will work out. Are they going to try that stunt with the Pakistanis in the U.K.? With the drug cartels in Mexico, with the dirt farmers eating rats in the Chinese hinterlands? Their plans start fall apart beyond their pliant white tools.

B124
B124
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

Yeah, as I’ve always said, I have no hatred for non-white people. They didn’t create, nor do they enforce enforce globohomo. They are just pawns, given all the first worth wealth in exchange for diluting the share of the white vote, and white social trust. It’s clear that white people are the new jihadists, the next “war on terror” will be against our own people. The elites are delusional and see themselves as great saviour of the poor 3rd world underclass. THe 3rd worlders resent being treated like children and have no interest in being a part of the liberal… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

insightful

Natarnsco
Member
3 years ago

“The American system rewards guile, but increasingly has no role for assertiveness and force.”
This is absolutely true, with the sole exception of diplomacy and statecraft – the one field where guile and subtlety should be rewarded instead encourages cartoonish intimidation and non-stop sword rattling.

RealityBit
RealityBit
Reply to  Natarnsco
3 years ago

Oh Foreign Policy has its own rewards. Someone has actually noticed. Only noticed mind you, and to proceed further is dangerous. But here is the notice from Pompeo to think tanks that State would appreciate they declare who pays them.

https://www.state.gov/on-transparency-and-foreign-funding-of-u-s-think-tanks/

Pete
Pete
3 years ago

The central government will not lose control anytime soon. Rome’s control of the far-flung provinces became a polite fiction because they were so far away. If Rome got word of an uprising it would take months to raise an army and send it there. DC can have a drone over your house within hours. They aren’t losing control. They could shut down the black riots if they wanted to, or kill any cartel guys coming across the border. They just don’t give a shit. They could infiltrate antifa with thousands of informants, as they do with white nationalist groups. The… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Pete
3 years ago

You would think, but then they couldn’t beat the Taliban

And the world has noticed

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
3 years ago

The strange thing is that a lot of our problems are solvable and are not even especially complex. Taking control of the border is a good example of this. What is really lacking is not the technology or organizational skills, it is the will, but the desire to take control. Even in that linked article from American Greatness, the author points to people being the problem, but hasn’t got the guts to mention the demographic of the root cause of the utter collapse of Baltimore. Yesterday I saw a video from Steven Crowder from like 2009 showcasing the utter collapse… Read more »

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

The horrific part of this slow-motion nightmare is how avoidable it is and how easy it would be to stop it. As for the will to stop it, the will of the people is still reflected in polls despite several generations of heavy-handed propaganda about the wonders of open borders. Therefore, we can conclude that what’s being done is intentional and the result of someone else’s will. Our rulers (not their court jesters, our politicians or celebrities) have decided they’ve extracted what they can from America and now it’s time to bust out, burn it and collect on the policy.… Read more »

B124
B124
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

I see it as almost a middle finger. Either they extracted all the wealth they could (but they haven’t, really), but maybe white people just simply couldn’t be manipulated and twisted into the new world order that they had planned for us.

Now they said “fuck you” and flooded our countries with billions of 3rd world aliens. Remember that multiculturalism/melting pot was actually a serious ideology 30 years ago, whereas it’s now a total farce.

Exile
Exile
3 years ago

Control ultimately flows from the barrel of a you-know-what. Oligarchs used to controlling things with money are going to learn the hard way that their own praetorians carry swords and they only carry wallets. I think Z’s said before (M20 pod IIRC) that in a chaotic society sooner or later people will realize Bezos is just a nerd and take his stuff. California is a very good bet to evolve from anarcho-tyranny to a narco tyranny. The oligarchs who currently have a core of hard men with guns around them whose loyalty they can somehow still command may make it… Read more »

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

I like The Dark Knight Rises take on your point:

https://youtu.be/3C_BubeBU8E

“Do you feel in charge?”

sentry
sentry
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

if bane was real i’d probably join him

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

Yeah I marvel at how obedient people are. Granted a lot of it is restraint but we support these people as they squat on us because… we think we owe it to them?

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

Exile, you’re not taking into account the growth of private security forces (ex Special Forces, Mossad, etc.)

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Exile
3 years ago

That’s why the CA Chinese Belt and Road Coast will split off and most of CA East will be a narco state. Who better than I to know that power flows from the barrel of a gun. My parents played Weekend Commie then shit thier collective pants when Uncle Joe and the FBI stared them down.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
3 years ago

> Is it possible for local power centers to emerge in North America, when the regions no longer have an identity of their own? Is it possible for local rule, when the local elites are just as inept and corrupt as the national elites? 
Portland and Seattle are classic cases on the side of the left, but we’re seeing it on the right too. There was a Michigan sheriff who basically said that maybe the Whitmer kidnapping conspirators had a good point.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Why would anyone want to kidnap the most annoying Karen on Earth?

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

There’s an old story called “The ransom of Red Chief” that springs to mid here

Raynard
Raynard
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

Haha! Didn’t they have to pay to give him back?

c matt
c matt
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

The plot was foiled when the would-be kidnappers learned no one would miss her.

Crispin
Crispin
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

Movie: Ruthless People

RealityBit
RealityBit
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

That would go Fargo woodchipper so fast.
Hell her husband is probably sorry it didn’t happen.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

In order to drop her in the middle of Lake Michigan.

SixxSigma
SixxSigma
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Get a load of the tranny running for office who organized a protest against that sheriff. I swear, more freaks are coming out of the woodwork with each passing day.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  SixxSigma
3 years ago

The Internet and social media have proven to be a horrifically effective location , validation, and organizational tool for the spiteful mutants.

RealityBit
RealityBit
3 years ago

A breakup on the North American continent is a formula for the Syrian War- if it happens. Very unlikely in any case, just a wish list. Breakup would simply mean in the end wars of reunification, no strong government would settle for less than Atlantic to Pacific. But no one is seriously proposing it, no serious person or movement exists to break us up. However: If the Dems win they’ll be unable to govern. If Trump wins the Left will go crazy, and we’ll have it confirmed again that Trump is all Bark, no Bite. If a Biter steps up… Read more »

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
3 years ago

One of your best future analysis and quite thought provoking. Coincidentally, I’m finishing off Ward-Perkins “The Fall of Rome” and yes the collapse was fall down the stairs…hit a landing….stagger along awhile….fall down more stairs. And Congratulations…..your hard work pays off….on landing at Taki. And an excellent interview over at Counter Currents. Your star is clearly rising! Happy for you! As for the declining empire, The Transition Integrity Project Podesta cabal is preparing us by planting seeds for California succession. Part of their strategy for getting what they want at election time if Decaying Joe isn’t promptly coronated is to… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 years ago

Yes!! From Vancouver to the Panama Canal. Brilliant. CALPERS led the way investing in Red Chips, the beginning of the great wave of offshoring.

China’s becoming a naval, ie, a world power, and is mercantilizing all the great ports of the Pacific Coast.

Also, planned Road infrastructure- from duty-free Mexican ports up thru Laredo to Kansas City have been talking about this and selling bonds on it for years.

See also Oz and NZ, as China molds them into Green police states.
China’s Rising Sun will include La Califa.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 years ago

In Australia, the State of Victoria has signed up for China’s OBOR inititive. Despite being forbiden by the Central Government who have signed up for the US’s response which seems to consist of “Let a thousand Lily Pad’s Bloom”.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/victorias-belt-and-road-deal-with-china-raises-concerns/news-story/aa44409627963704373591dd4ff907d1
The US is apparently displeased
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8351799/US-disconnect-Australia-China-Victoria-deal.html

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 years ago

I think a Rome-paced collapse, even adjusting for scale, is wishful thinking. Personally that would work out for me, but I don’t think that will be the case. I would imagine it will be closer to the Soviet Union. At what point can we say the Soviets hit the first landing? Let’s take Hungary, 1956. Landing 2, 1962: Backdown over Cuba/Sino-Soviet split. Landing 3, 1968: Prague Spring. Landing 4, 1972: Wheat crop failure. Landing 5, mid-80s: failure in Afghanistan. Landing 6, 1989: fall of Berlin Wall End: 1992. There could be other events that qualified as “landings.” And Soviet-inspired Marxism,… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Vegetius
3 years ago

The first landing was the Civil War despite ]\the unparalleled prosperity and triumph that followed; the American republic became the Puritan empire for the remainder of its history. The second landing was the early failure of the New Deal in ’38, and the decisive blow was Brown in ’54 because all that followed flowed directly from that particularly hard and violent landing, which was Soviet-style agitprop disguised as social engineering disguised as freedom. The Civil Rights Act was the first elimination of an enumerated right ten years afterwards and the inevitable consequence of the bleeding the decade before. The landings… Read more »

Aegis
Aegis
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 years ago

The Transition Integrity Project Podesta cabal is preparing us by planting seeds for California succession. That was a deflection, actually. California would not be viable by itself as they depend too much on other states for natural resources, much of which could be physically blockaded by Red States. California probably also couldn’t import enough by sea to maintain their standard of living, which would result in mass chaos — $10 / gallon gas, x 2-3 higher food prices, 2-3 x higher electric bills, the collapse of Hollywood as Red States no longer honor their copyrights, mass White exodus from the… Read more »

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
3 years ago

California is the microcosm that bears observing, being the extreme left swing of the pendulum. With the tax base fleeing, benefits will be reduced or cut off to third worlders here illegally. As for the cartel, politicians never met a bribe they didn’t like, but eventually consequences catch up to the mechanics of corruption. Left wing social engineering is the wrecking ball that destroyed the state. If nature pitches in with a massive earthquake, everything old will be new again.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Higgs Boson
3 years ago

“If nature pitches in with a massive earthquake”

When, not if.

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Higgs Boson
3 years ago

Appears you answered the question as to “How hard would it be for the drug cartels to push them aside and turn the state into another narco-state”?
To wit: not hard at all for cartels – or Chicoms for that matter. The carcass shoud be big enough for both to get a share.
Afterall, “them” being the Schiff’s, Pelosi’s, Finestein’s, Newsom’s, and assorted other human detritus posing as leadership – how hard could be?

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Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

China produces fentanyl the Mexicans distribute. It’s a global economy after all.

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Higgs Boson
3 years ago

Econ 101 – law of supply and demand. At least one supply chain system works effectively and efficiently.
(sigh)

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

A skeptic would have to assume that there is already a degree of drug money and active agents  in US law enforcement. To what degree, I have no way of knowing. Optimistically we could hope rather less than occurs South of the Border.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Higgs Boson
3 years ago

CA is worth observing with the following caveat: Not all minorities are equal wrt destructive effect. The overwhelming of Whites by Hispanics in CA will never be the equivalent of Whites being overwhelmed by Blacks. One is a certain existential threat.

The Right Doctor
Reply to  Higgs Boson
3 years ago

I think California can still surprise you: the government there would be more than happy to continue shoveling money into supporting illegals living there even while cutting off ‘citizens’. (If you answer to ‘citizen’ anymore you might as well wear ruffled collars and powdered wigs). One of the things I saw in California on my way out was how many illegals were getting free gastric-bypass surgery in the public hospital where my wife worked. That and the prisoners from the three-strikes prison getting gender-transition surgery, either so they can be more popular or so they can be reassigned to a… Read more »

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  The Right Doctor
3 years ago

Redistribution of wealth never works in our favor.

Valley Lurker
Reply to  The Right Doctor
3 years ago

This sums up California best. No one I know who in anyway could be termed a productive member of society can actually describe any tangible benefit they are getting from paying taxes at this point.

Nick
Nick
3 years ago

Neal Stephenson wrote two interesting sci-fi books about the post American empire world. The basic shape he describes seems somewhat plausible to me. Average citizens form or join defense “philes” which are based around race, ethnicity, interests, or capabilities. It’s like anarcho capitalism and strongman politics blended together

DVDC
DVDC
Reply to  Nick
3 years ago

SnowCrash – and which is the other you are thinking of?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  DVDC
3 years ago

The Diamond Age

DVDC
DVDC
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

Thanks – I haven’t read that one yet … Just finished is latest one: Fall … not his best, but some interesting stuff and ideas as usual.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
3 years ago

Hmmmmmmm. A narcostate might actually be an improvement for California? Maybe it already is? There’s no way that collection of idiots could be anything else but paid shills…

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

You know how your local DMV or BMV attracts idiots? Well, it doesn’t get much better the higher up the public ladder you go.

AnotherAnon
AnotherAnon
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

ouch

B124
B124
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

I think it’s clear that the leftist politicians are being paid off by somebody, maybe different groups. I hope so, anyways, because it would be sad if they’re actually this retarded.

Anyway, the narcos don’t need to be violent in California, they already have open borders. Let the gringos think Latinos are peaceful, then in 2040 when it’s a 90% Latino state they can just take over.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  B124
3 years ago

And nothing much will change.You’ll have a bunch more light skinned people named Vasquez or something but that is about it.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Iran-Contra was how long ago? Before that it was the “Golden Triangle.” Now it’s the poppy fields in Afghanistan. Drug-running is how the “intelligence services” fund their off-the-books operations. Although after the passage of FASAB 56 https://tinyurl.com/y5gt9gzb during the Kavanaugh hearings, I don’t know why they bothered.

Drake
Drake
3 years ago

Our collapse appears to be right on schedule according to John Glubb. He notes that some empires collapse in stages as you suggest, the Ottomans for example – the Mameluke Empire, on the other hand, collapsed after losing one battle.
http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

Winchester House
Winchester House
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

This is a great point. Just as not all empires are created equal, not all are guaranteed a “stairstep decline” either. We tend to project the American Experiment onto the Roman Empire, but what if we’re more like those many empires that have vanished quickly without leaving much of a trace? Someone pointed out the other day that the Mongol Empire fell apart quickly and didn’t leave much behind them. No significant works of art, little architecture, no infrastructure, no science. What if we turn out to be more like the Mongols, leaving little more than some unsold copies of… Read more »

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Winchester House
3 years ago

No need to pick on San Francisco lol. We are not so much like the mongols as we are inviting the mongols to ride and pillage among us; the savage among the eloi. The dance of the makers and the takers can go on for a long while. Running off of the energy trapped in the creations of yesterday men; burning the great works to heat ones hut. Speaking of SFO. The golden gate bridge is no work of savages. The salt air will return it to the sea eventually, if not for a never-ending paint job by daring and… Read more »

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

Go back and read Earth Abides for a description of the GG Bridge as Ish witnesses its deterioration.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

Turn out the lights the Parties Over and then the fun begins… Better have your Community built by then guys because your chance of survival will be pretty low without it…

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Winchester House
3 years ago

Not too many people will come here to admire the architecture when it’s all gone. A pile of cinderblocks where the Costco used to be, a pile of cinderblocks where the McDonalds used to be etc… History books will read “As it was a disposable society that lived in the moment, so did its architecture.”

miforest
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

don’t be silly, the history books won’t say anything because nobody will b able to read!

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Winchester House
3 years ago

Radioactive glass plains are a high technology achievement, after a fashion 😶

a kullervo
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Good point.
After all, past known empires were eco-friendly; the American Empire (and elsewhere) is chock-full of very long-term biodegradable weaponry and energy sources.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Winchester House
3 years ago

Yes. I think Z is projecting the long, slow gradual decline of Rome onto the U.S.

It’s understandable, as the U.S. was modeled upon the Roman Republic at its founding.

But we would be wise to remember that in 1914 neither the Kaiser, the Tsar, the Ottomans, or the Dual Monarchy believed that their empires would be gone in four years. Neither did the Soviets in 1987. And I don’t think the Bourbons of 1785 saw what was coming in 1789, either.

A fast collapse is a lot more likely than Z seems to believe…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

It should also be noted that no past empire was so awash in information as is “America,” and no previous empire resided in such a technologically sophisticated setting. I consider these two elements to be hastening agents for “America’s” decline and fall.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

With all the intricate electronics and infrastructure that we totally rely on, we could be one emp blast from returning to an agrarian/ hunter gatherer type society or multiple societies, ala “One Second After”.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

One EMP blasts or a myriad of little things going wrong at the same time which leads to a nation wide catastrophic failure…

jo blo
jo blo
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

video about the 2012 “carrington class” solar flare. It looks like a 1 out of 4 chance of it hitting the earth, and happened twice in 160 years. The video also discusses what could happen to our modern systems. OMG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ukQhycKOFw
Might be a good idea to back up your bitcoins on a laptop kept in a sheilded box, maybe in a few years the network will be fixed enough to TRY to sell them. A penny on the dollar, maybe?

jo blo
jo blo
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Or another Carrington event, as in 1859. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event This solar flare damaged the only existing electric network, the telegraph system, which is way sturdier than modern electronics, though perhaps more exposed because of long wires and lack of circuit protection. No telling how often that happens, there was no way to notice such an event before that, because nothing electrical. “Less severe storms occurred in 1921 and 1960, when widespread radio disruption was reported. The March 1989 geomagnetic storm knocked out power across large sections of Quebec. On July 23, 2012 a “Carrington-class” solar superstorm (solar flare, coronal mass ejection, solar EMP) was observed; its trajectory narrowly… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Wonder how well the US foreign policy crowd would react to a swift sinking of a couple of supercarriers in the Straights of Taiwan?

(To clarify: Sunk by enemy action, not by 2 US carriers running into each other. Because that’s the kind of elite Navy we now possess)

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Drake
Drake
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

Depends who is in charge. If it’s Trump, the U.S. attack sub fleet becomes the noose that strangles China to death. If it’s Biden or Harris, they don’t do crap.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Those nuclear subs won’t do a whole lot of good with a 300-lb face-tattooed purple hair at the helm

Aegis
Aegis
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

I wish that were the case, but there are several limitations on the use of American nuclear subs in a war with China: 1) they are practically useless in the Straight of Taiwan because the area is more shallow than some might imagine 2) the Chinese would utilize their superior ground forces to overwhelm the Americans through a retaliatory invasion of South Korea, and perhaps even Japan after that. There aren’t enough nuclear subs in the fleet to prevent that. The Americans would be forced to drop their blockade in short order. Also, those sub aren’t available in large enough… Read more »

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Aegis
3 years ago

That’s a lot of magical ability you ascribe to the Chinese military.

Aegis
Aegis
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

My opinion has long been that the American public would immediately break and demand their government sue for peace. I say this based on current trends of falling patriotism and loss of national cohesion. America could barely take a fraction of the causalities in Vietnam as it did WWII and barely a fraction of that in Iraq. Increasingly, it relies on outspending its opposition and browbeating them into submission using the threat of force, but the gap with China is closing rapidly. In the future, people will be thinking in terms of what’s good for their identity group, not what’s… Read more »

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Aegis
3 years ago

…but the gap with China is closing rapidly. 

If you say so. The Chinese have yet to demonstrate their military capabilities beyond show. Say what you will, but the constant war fighting the Americans have involved themselves in has proven beyond a doubt the United States has no near-peer military competitor. Sure, the gaps might “close”, but beyond the magical technology amateurs like to obsess over, it isn’t everything. You still have humans fighting the wars. Again, the Chinese have yet to prove their ground forces are capable beyond huge numbers.

Jonah Kyle
Jonah Kyle
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

And when the communist Democrats change the US militar mission from external threats to internal patriot resistance, that military might will be used on us. Law enforcement will already be federalized, so no local sheriff/deputies to overrule the state/feds edicts. In addition, too many communists graduating out of the high schools will be more than willing to use every weapon against rural patriots, so they will have no need for a door-to-door gun confiscation of the hardcores. In fact, I wouldn’t put it past the Democrat communists to INVITE China/Russian troops to HELP administer this American holocaust. Think it can’t… Read more »

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

All good points. What I see in a lot of the white young men is a lack of lionhood brought upon them by a weak fatherhood and feminized women.
It may take some real deterioration in civilization and a few bloody attacks upon them by joggers and white communists to bring some Lions to the front again.
In other words several years down the road.

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c matt
c matt
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

I thought we want feminized women?

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

i should have said radicalized. Feminist not feminized.

Crispin
Crispin
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

And mantastic men.
I hope he meant “feminized by women”.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
3 years ago

The life of the average peasant got better after the Empire fell. They ate better and lived longer. Life in a Roman city sucked. They couldn’t travel past their hometown but thats normal.

The same is true now. Life in a modern city is a dead end. Its where humanity goes to die. As the infrastructure goes, so will the modern toxic cocktail that has turned the average American into an androgynous locust.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Tykebomb
3 years ago

Yep. The cities until the 20th century were sops for excess population. Given any turmoil which stops the “grain ships”, they will be death camps again.

Tax Slave
3 years ago

One clear simple message to normies: leave the city.

”Peaceful separation” will result in the power hungry wackos ruling city states.
It’s either that or stockpile ammo and body armor and a shitload of small arms and train your children in 3g warfare tactics.

c matt
c matt
3 years ago

From the AmGrt article:

The classic symbol of third world corruption is the shakedown for bribes by border officials and police officers. For the most part, this has been absent from American public life.

Guess he never heard of asset forfeiture laws.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

We just legalized our corruption.

Allen
3 years ago

California is an interesting example for other reasons. Without an extensive building and maintenance program for it’s infrastructure California will collapse as a population nexus. Importing third world people, narcotics cartels, while demeaning your skilled people is a sure fire means to collapse. Everything successful about California is about human artifice. Prior to the arrival of settlers from the eastern parts of the US, California could barely support the small human population it did have. The first real indicator is when low skill people move out of California. When the state can no longer support high levels of low skill… Read more »

B124
B124
Reply to  Allen
3 years ago

California represents the white man. Manifest destiny completed. Taming the wild elements and turning it into a paradise. Beautiful scenery. Beautiful women. It really was a paradise.

It’s finished now. 3rd world status within 30 years.

Chazz
Chazz
3 years ago

The Chinese are watching patiently as diversity and social engineering disable America. Queen Kamila will rule at the pleasure of Xi. No Belesarius will be found among the lesbian ranks.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
3 years ago

“How hard would it be for the drug cartels to push them aside and turn the state into another narco-state?” Intersting. I always pictured an independent California, as a inept liberal dystopia. Sure, a ruling class of whites, tribe, punjabis, and a few hispanics on top, ruling over a largely non-white horde to which the rulers pay lip service and leftie whites continuing to foot the bill. I never considered that cartels would replace the ruling elite. With whites no longer making up the bulk of police forces… minority police forces would be substandard and largely corrupt. Why wouldn’t cartels… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

You’re pretty much describing the present. There’s a total disconnect between the coastal areas and the inland areas. There is an upper class white aristocracy on the coast, many of whom are trust fund babies. Then you have the latinos who drive in to serve them. Then you have the Asians in their enclaves and as tech minions. I see Newsom as the last coke head vestige of this. The interesting thing about a CA political map is that the wealthiest areas are just as blue and the poorest urban areas. This is an aberration that won’t last. The Democrats… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Nice summation. And where do the hw cartels fit in? They are essentially the erratic puppet master of Mexico now. Same-same in future Alta California?

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

I see CA as being a more developed Mexico, but not by much. Even as it’s run into the ground it’ll have more going for it. But the future isn’t here. People will still come the same way they go to Portugal or Southern Italy but you don’t go there to make a living or prosper, or to see the future. Any wealthy here will be de-facto politically connected, or have their primary residence somewhere else. An example of our decline is this article from today: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54510363 “pioneered in the Netherlands.” It should be saying “pioneered Palo Alto or Santa… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Yup. The HW’s know how to amp up the old mafia tactics, with the cultural innovation of including the entire extended family in the bloody retribution. No one else has the staying power, in the face of that kind of thing.
“Breaking Bad” ran with the conceit that Walter White, aka ”Heisenberg”, could outwit the cartels. Dream on.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Nope. Can’t do it.

Just deleted an innocuous statement about a detail re the collusion of China, Cartel, gangs of any color, and our State/Feds.

Simply put, they’re all in on it, they all know, it’s established part-and-parcel accepted as normal business.

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Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

California will take the Mexico route because it is full of Mexicans. One gets a ruthless cartelized group of people actually in charge, while politicians, the media, the law and LEOs, corporations, and local leaders, all serve as their minions, upon pain of grisly death to them and theirs. Everyone else goes quiet and lays low to get by, as the cartels scoop all of the wealth, throwing some thin economic meat to their cooperating minions, and the entire place goes to economic seed over time. “Plata o plomo”, “silver or lead”. Industrious people exit over the border, to escape… Read more »

B124
B124
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

Texas and Nevada are not far behind in Latinization. Elon is gonna have to make a new move in another 10 years. Eventually we will all run of places to run. I think more people are starting to notice the demographic realities. We shall see.

Who will be the first to mention anti-white demographic shifts? Elon?

TomA
TomA
3 years ago

There are now hundreds (perhaps thousands) of computer-based simulation models for the socio-economic dynamics of the US. Most of these attempt to predict the most probable outcomes, and oft times are used for contingency planning. The existence of these models gives bureaucrats and managers a false sense of control over the masses, which emboldens them to implement new methods of coercion. This viscous cycle will hasten our decline as never before.

Sandmich
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

There is a bit of that; we know we’re keyboard warriors and are fairly ineffective to our cause in that pursuit, but our rulers are, themselves, keyboard warriors and Twitter, etc. gives them a feel for power, but it’s a virtual, cardboard version of the real thing. They’re just a few “Nasim” incidents away from having that all collapse into an ash heap.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Did someone just describe “Global Warming” science?

whitney
Member
3 years ago

It looks at me like the entire white world, or the remains to be more accurate, is going to end up looking like Lebanon except for Australia and New Zealand which are going to be police States like China.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Eh, there is already more than enough vibrancy in Australia to permanently muddy the gene pool.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Australia has put a lid on it. They intercept and dump their refugees (IA’s) onto a remote island for processing. We could do the same, but instead have released them into the country where the vanish.

Valley Lurker
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

I’m told they’re essential to the tax base so its ok we don’t keep track of where they go.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

They’ve stopped the illegals coming in by sea, but they’re ‘legally’ bringing in thousands upon thousands of Han. And lots of pajeets, too.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Perhaps. The hopeful bit about Zman’s post is the underscoring of “incompetence.” Incompetence at both the ruling level and the basic societal functions level. Once Our People have eaten enough oppression AND realize the forces arrayed against them are inept and impotent… Kattie bar the door. Patience, faith, fortitude, and cunning. All is not lost.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Someone keeps voting these people in.

Lanky
Lanky
3 years ago

I’ve just had it, guys. I know I touched on this yesterday a little bit, but I have to repeat: this is getting to be too much for me. I don’t mean life, or work, or the typical pursuits of a man. I mean this whole suburban living thing. The technological invasions of privacy; the wokery of my neighborhood; the groups of young men slinking toward downtown at dusk — and sometimes pretty large groups at that. I have a son to think about now, and it’s time to leave this all behind. For his sake. Many members of my… Read more »

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Lanky
3 years ago

You sound like me. For me, owning a bunch of land is the dream. Well, let me rephrase, owning acres with a spring with a swimming hole is the dream 😉

Imagine owning your own swimming hole !!!!

Add in a few horses. I’d even raise cattle. I used to take care of the pigs at a family farm growing up. Wasn’t very glamorous by I do miss it.

I just have to break my city habits. Not easy. Aargh.

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Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

It’s a dream for sure havlng that…

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Lanky
3 years ago

The burbs will suck your soul and energy dry Brother…Come over to https://www.upic.works/index.php
and we can get together a plan for you to vacate that area…

Rob A.
3 years ago

One of the things that intrigues me about America’s coming collapse – and that nobody has talked about – is what will happen to the nukes?

Seriously, could there be a catastrophe? The US is armed to the teeth with nukes all over its and other people’s territory. And at sea too. What happens if there is a sudden loss of central control? Could somebody fire off a nuke? Will there be local battles to get control of them?

Why should we expect America’s collapse to be ‘conventionally violent’? Might it not be apocalyptic?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Rob A.
3 years ago

I mentioned this up thread.

I think a lot of it depends on how patriotic our submariners, Dakotas, and Montanans are, and how capable they are of isolating the nukes from central control, then repurposing them.

I mean, would you rather have Kamala or Kristi Noem in control of the warheads stationed in SD?

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Kristi Noem.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

The Minuteman missile sites in South Dakota have been deactivated and are now a National Park. I don’t know where our current nuclear arsenal is held.
https://www.nps.gov/mimi/planyourvisit/visiting-launch-facility-missile-silo-delta-09.htm

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

“minuteman missile” sounds racist. -“White man with musket defending himself.” All future missile systems will be named after Harriet Tubman or Harvey Milk, etc.

Sandmich
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Some ongoing debate on how many of those are nukes and how many are now dirty-bombs due to decades of radioactive decay

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Rob A.
3 years ago

I could easily see that as a reason for China, Russia, the UN or who knows who else to step in “to maintain control and safety” of such dangerous weapons.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Rob A.
3 years ago

At very least, firing them requires a couple votes.

FisherOfMen
Member
3 years ago

I argue to you that there is and has not ever been any such thing as the “American Empire.” We are just participating in the slow decline of the British Empire. We’re a colony that broke up and had a brief flash-in-the-pan success but couldn’t maintain it because… we’re just a colony that broke off. The British Empire’s decline timeline is matching the slow roll decline of empires like Rome. We’re not “50 years into decline” we’re 250+ years into the decline now (might as well start measuring when the Britsh Empire had declined enough for one of its podunk… Read more »

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  FisherOfMen
3 years ago

The White race reached its highpoint in the 1960s. The rot was there yes, but we stretched from the Zambezi in Southern Africa to the Cape. We had strong majorities in Europe, Northern North America and Southern South America. White elites ruled every other part of the Americas. There was no other race to oppose us, China and India were just finding their feet. 50 years later, we have lost Southern Africa completely. The Southern Cone is getting Swarthmore as us North America. Even Europe has a growing brown underclass. Chinese and Indian elite are competing for North America. Things… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Tykebomb
3 years ago

India will always be finding its feet. An utterly broken society.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

doesn’t india have cannibals? There are so many crazy religious groups there, a trip to india is like a journey to the crazy pagan past, but with feminism added to it that’s even more imbecilic than western feminism, plus the street feces, but you can find that in california as well. What a joke of a society.

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B124
B124
Reply to  Tykebomb
3 years ago

White Venezuelans/Argentinians/Brazilians seem to prefer to come to Canada and end their bloodlines through low birth rates, abortion, and leftism rather than stay and fight for control down South.

We Euros have a mind virus.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  FisherOfMen
3 years ago

I generally agree that the ‘American Empire’ is the remnants of the British, but disagree that America is just a colony that broke off. We should’ve stuck with the Monroe Doctrine. Maybe the mistake we made was shuttering the Bank of the United States and not having our own independent financial system.

FisherOfMen
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

>We should’ve stuck with the Monroe Doctrine. Right– but we didn’t because we are only a colony that broke off. Having not created an empire via blood, sweat, and tears like the Brits did, we assumed empire-creation was simple, so it was easy to drop all the “unfriendly meanie rules” that are involved in actual creation. We didn’t work for it like Britain did. Britons died of malaria and a hundred other things getting the treasury up big enough to keep colonies alive. And then we said, pshaw, we’ll just break off. So we broke off, and all those little… Read more »

amon
amon
Reply to  FisherOfMen
3 years ago

“actually defeat everything the motherland could throw at it” 18th century warfare wasn’t like that.
Didn’t France have 2.5 to 3 times the poulation of Britain?
I’d say peak for Britain was the 1860s.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

We’re seeing states and cities in open revolt now, refusing to abide by federal laws.

One thing the Beer Flu hoax has revealed is that state governors are far too powerful and while state legislatures and judiciairies are far too weak.

Beetle McTurk
Beetle McTurk
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

“Beer Flu”. Ugh. Can you give it a rest already? Nobody is picking up on what you appear to believe is your clever moniker. It’s getting tiresome in the extreme, and I skip your comments when I catch your name beforehand so as to avoid another exposure. Get some new material.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
3 years ago

Welp, I implored Lord Cthulu as to what we should do

He simply roared, “SQWEEK EEG ACK G’NARL SHOGGOTH ZHAAARGH!!” and then subjected me to unspeakable horrors

So that’s out

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

And here I was told that he would teach us new ways to kill and that there’d by a Holocaust of ecstasy and murder…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
3 years ago

The American Empire is already dead as a doornail. It has definitively morphed into something post-American while still passing itself off as America. 2020 is the Empire’s terminal year. However, the formal dissolution of the Empire will occur when it no longer has the ability to collect taxes. If various constituencies simply balk at paying taxes and suffer no significant repercussions, the Empire will no longer be able to sustain the fiction that it exists. As for local power centers, I think we need to think in terms of regions rather than states. California is farcical, but there are rural… Read more »

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

I was hoping to hear more normies questioning paying taxes since the FedGov can print Beer Flu money at will.

I’ve been disappointed.

Bartolo
Bartolo
3 years ago

Croatia, I can only recommend it. Just spent 23 days there and it is the right time to visit thanks to corona; eg, Dubrovnik, usually overcrowded, has now 10% of the visitors it normally has. You can also visit Montenegro from there (Kotor and the surrounding ‘fjord’ are totally worth it). I suggest Dubrovnik, Split, Trogir (a few hours is enough) and Krka natural park (you won’t be able to swim in the waterfalls after 2021 starts) + at least one island, they are a beaut. Zagreb I did not visit. Incredibly tall people, and good looking ladies. English VERY… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Bartolo
3 years ago

The most beautiful redhead I ever met was Croatian.

The towns of Pula and Rovinj are also worth checking out.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Slavic women in general are insanely hot and Croats are the top tier of Slavs.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
3 years ago

You’re certainly right about Croatian women. **pant, pant** And Dutch women are their equal.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Bartolo
3 years ago

My first after-college boss had just taken a trip to Dubrovnik right before the calamity. Truly heartbreaking.

miforest
Member
3 years ago

I think you being a starry eyed optimist again . for all intents and purposes , we are already a colony of china . they own our corporations, politicians,media,universities, and the international organizations that set policy we follow, like the WHO. there is another article in American greatness that gives this a quick look. https://amgreatness.com/2020/10/08/the-chinese-gutting-of-america/ . What will they do with us? I have no idea , but if you look at tibet or outer Mongolia, it may not be good. They will not be able to get too Hands on because issues they have at home . But clearly… Read more »

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B124
B124
Reply to  miforest
3 years ago

The one billion Americans thing may be an earnest attempt by the globalist financiers to “compete” with China. Obviously it won’t work. As a people, whites are just too soft. We need some poverty and hard times again to get our energy back, apparently. Our Chinese masters will either be indifferent, make use of the smart tier whites and leave the rest alone, so long as they don’t threaten the Party. Or, they will punish all us Yt’s for the opium wars and humiliating them in the past. I know it’s not logical. Feelings > Logic. Fob Chinese don”t understand… Read more »

Tom K
Tom K
3 years ago

From the American Greatness article by Christopher Roach, Political normality, compromise, and restraint are other features of first world societies. These habits of self-limitation are the products of a common culture, where the goal of preserving and strengthening an existing society is taken for granted. This is the inheritance of George Washington, who stepped down after two terms. It is reflected in Richard Nixon taking advice from LBJ, and the whole country mourning the murder of JFK. I was watching the first Kennedy/Nixon debate of 1960 a few nights back on Youtube. Much has been made of how poorly Nixon… Read more »

Donutboy
Donutboy
3 years ago

Was just in SoCal. Watched a support carrier leave from Coronado, then heard more than saw the F-18s fly from Pendleton to the deck (they don’t land while in port for obvious reasons). CVN 74 was in port, radar still operating (probably better than any ground-based radar, but what do I know?). Then drove up the coast, La Jolla, Carlsbad, Laguna, Newport, finally to LA. There’s a tremendous amount of wealth stored in that area. Also, in San Diego and Pendleton, a lot of firepower. And despite the Blade Runner aspects of LA, it somehow works, I’d bet better than… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Donutboy
3 years ago

L.A. works because it went through the great shake out. Whites who could not tolerate POC have already left. The whites who remain, like me, live in zip codes with 70%+ white and have found ways to deal with “others,” and the same can be said of everyone else. You can’t be a Mexican in L.A. and totally hate whites or Asians or blacks or Armenians, because you would have already left. Those people leave for other states or go home. But it also “works” because it is still operating on pre-existing ideas and principles left behind by the white… Read more »

Donutboy
Donutboy
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

I did quip that next year all the donut and yoga shops in LA would be “Blackrock Donuts” and “Blackrock Yoga.” After the first incredible burst of energy, all empires run on inertia. The US juggernaut has been running on monopoly money, ie. Fedbux, for 90 years, or at least since Breton Woods. Nice when you can print your own supply. But until the lights are turned out on the last yacht in Newport, I don’t see the plug being pulled any time soon. Did get to see a sicario at LAX. Probably the hardest looking dude I’d ever layed… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Donutboy
3 years ago

Jocko is yet another grifting fraud using his military service for his “hard” Tony Robbins personae.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Donutboy
3 years ago

Whites are in a different situation right now. My Mexican friend returned from Alabama recently, and this was the first time he’d seen the country and was shocked by how nice it was, I guess having assumed all the negative stereotypes of the south were true, etc. His sister bought a house in Alabama for $35,000 a few years ago and has horses, which for him is like a dream. It is his country now in the sense that it’s nothing but a bright future for an immigrant like himself. White people have moved beyond that dreaminess. We’ve done it… Read more »

Donutboy
Donutboy
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Interesting about the dividing line in LA. I was going to say north of Santa Monica Blvd, but nudged it to Wilshire. Malibu will be the last stand of implicit whiteness. Charlie Sheen will lead the resistance! Was way WAY misremembering about the Duke. His given name was Marion, and he was from Iowa. So apologies for that. I’m from Trumpland, and was astonished to see people smoking joints on the street. All our hotels were redolent of weed. Maybe that’s why things seemed so chill. Of course, I could never live there, because things are so bad I couldn’t… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

^^^. True. It takes a lot of cabbage to live in the good zips. And unfortunately you can be a Mexican in LA and totally hate whites. Lots of La Raza who went to community college classes on hate whitey 101. As embittered and miserable as anything you’ve seen. It works because the welfare/food stamp/Medicaid system still works. And all that money on the coast increasingly has to hide it. Out of state LLCs etc.