The Awakening

When Finnish nationalists get together every year to socialize and organize, they call their event The Awakening. It is a great term for them to use as it has multiple meanings in this context. One is the obvious awakening among Finns of their long dormant nation pride and identity. The other is the growing awareness of what globalism and multiculturalism means to them as a people. It can also mean the growing awareness of liberal democracy and what it is doing to the people.

The image of a man waking up or snapping out of a daze is a good one to use for all Western people, especially Americans. In the provinces of the Empire, there has always been a bit of skepticism about America, so they never fully succumbed to the narcotic effects of the American empire. In the heart of the empire, the combination of American mythology, civic nationalism and patriotic nostalgia have kept most Americans in a narcotic fog, unable to fully grasp what is happening to them.

There’s also a very American aspect to this concept. The Great Awakening is a cycle in American culture that dates to the founding. A mostly northern phenomenon, these periodic spasms of moral and civic reform have defined our politics. The ruling class may have abandoned Christianity generations ago, but the people are still controlled by those same biorhythms. Therefore, Americans are still prone to periods of excessive moralizing about the fallen state of society.

Amusingly, the current ruling class has bastardized the term to use it in their current anti-white pogroms. The “woke” people waging jihad against white people claim to be suddenly aware of white supremacy, white privilege and male privilege. In reality, they just gobbled down the latest batch of hallucinogenics issued from the global human resource departments. The full expression of false consciousness is middle-aged childless women claiming to be woke on the patriarchy.

As an aside, it is rather symbolic that the ruling class would embrace the concept of an awakening to decorate their latest enforcement efforts. It is the hallmark of the global ruling class to take naturally occurring phenomenon and destroy them in an effort to squeeze a few dollars from them. It is appropriate for a parasitic class of rapacious vermin to try to monetize and politicize the awakening concept as they try to prevent people from waking up to the reality of that parasitic class.

All that aside, there is an awakening going on outside the big stages and production houses of America popular culture. No one in corporate media is allowed to mention it and most are happy to comply with that edict, but it is a real thing that will define the near future, possibly the election. Like most social change, it is happening slowly in many little ways, so it is not obvious. Even for people on the edge of the awakening, the changes can be frustratingly subtle, but it is happening.

People are waking up to the reality of race in American politics and culture. You see that with the collapse in sports viewership. Before the Left unleashed the latest anti-white pogrom, white people loved their sports. Then it went away and then it came back decorated with the latest political slogans. Suddenly, what it was, what it always was, was clear to many people and they have abandoned it. It’s not just the politics in the games, but the politics around all of us.

Another area where people are becoming more aware of the reality behind the illusion is in the mass media. The “fake news” stuff is a nice partisan chant, but even the most partisan Trump people have been clinging to the belief that the media going woke would cause them to go broke. The Biden corruption story is waking many up to the reality of our mass media. It’s not a business at all, but one of the many tentacles of the ruling class, used to keep certain people in power.

The thing that the people behind this story probably don’t get is how this puzzle piece suddenly brings into focus a picture that was not all that clear for many. The media claiming this Hunter Biden story is Russian propaganda is like a bucket of ice water on the heads of many people. The outlandish dishonesty at work here cannot be explained as mere partisanship. The whole Biden story, his dementia and now his corruption, is a stunning eye opener for many Americans.

Again, it is easy for even the most cynical to miss it. “Oh, normie will go right back to his sports ball” was what we heard months ago from the most cynical. That did not happen and now seems unlikely to happen. The spell has been broken. The same is happening with mass media. The center of gravity for normal people moved from the assumption of bias to an assumption that what is in the news is a lie. There is a palpable breakdown in trust between the people and the ruling class.

This Hunter Biden story may be another inflection point. Many people are looking at this and wondering just how deep the corruption goes. After all, the FBI has had this material for months and never followed up on it. In fact, they appear to have been actively concealing it from Congress. Were they planning to blackmail Biden with it if he won the election? When people can plausibly start to wonder such things, they have lost all confidence and trust in their ruling class.

Like most things, cultural awakenings are not neat and tidy. The pedantic cannot appreciate that these things happen in fits and starts. Often the real action is happening in private conversations between friends and family. A catalyzing event brings those private conversations into the public, but it was a series of minor little things that nudged people along in the private deliberations. In the fullness of time, 2020 may be known as the year of the American Awakening.

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OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
1 month ago

Often the real action is happening in private conversations between friends and family. A catalyzing event brings those private conversations into the public, but it was a series of minor little things that nudged people along in the private deliberations. I think this is the most succinct take on how we reach the point of ‘The Awakening’. I have seen this happen with friends and family. After Covid and the BLM overreach, the conversations went up a notch. Even just suggesting that, say Covid is something the government ought not to be trusted over prods people a little. The comment… Read more »

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

Correct.
Once you realize that a certain set of people hate you and mean you harm – you start to hate them back.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 month ago

As a Christian, I don’t want to hate anyone. But I don’t know how you fight a war without hating the enemy.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

I try to be a Christian, DLS. But at some point… ya gotta look after yourself.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 month ago

Maybe it’s not hatred then, but self defense. You don’t have to hate the mugger to use violence to stop him.

Valchad
Valchad
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

Hatred is all-consuming. The crazed harpies that hate Trump and his supporters are in processing of ruining their own lives with bitterness. You can have contempt for someone w/o allowing it to become the raison d’etre for your existence.

Justin
Justin
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

Exactly right. It is not hatred. It is self defense. The offender has hatred. The defender does not.

Valchad
Valchad
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 month ago

I view Christianity as a comprehensive self-improvement doctrine, although the term “self-improvement” doesn’t really capture the essence of the process. Attributes like patience, diligence, and humility make a more formidable man and a lovelier, more dependable woman.

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 month ago

Discussions like this and the thoughtful comments are the reason I come here. Kudos, guys.

One last comment then I’ll shut up. Hatred, like anger, isn’t very useful. Athletes know that getting angry and upset throws off your timing and your ability to concentrate, which is why they try to provoke their opponent before and during a match. Hatred and anger weaken you.

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Justin
Justin
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
1 month ago

That is very true. If you remember the advice from Bruce Lee, he said to use what he called “emotional content”, NOT anger. By emotional content, I guess he meant focus and concentration.

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

I was walking in my neighborhood when a full-grown pit bull dog ran at me. I knocked it out with a single front kick. I love animals but if it’s me or you…it will be you.

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c matt
c matt
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

Hate and love are not opposites. Indifference and love are opposites.

Also, love in its correct Christian sense means willing the best for the other. Allowing others to pursue policies and actions destructive to all is hardly willing the best for them. If your actions are not out of spite for them, but because you want to prevent the destruction of all that is good and holy, then you are within the “love your enemies” injunction.

Herzog
Herzog
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

It seems to me that you have a too mainstream-shaped understanding of Christianity. “Love you enemy” and all that — is it a dogmatic, situation-independent doctrine to be applied mechanically in all circumstances, unchanging over time even in the face of systematized and unwavering hatred (plus ensuing actions) from the enemy? Or is it perhaps something more akin to a Zen koan, a counterintuitive and situational wakeup call against unthinkingly digging yourself in in mental trenches of enmity? A sort of ‘give peace and reconciliation a chance’ — but not necessarily hundreds upon hundreds of chances after the enduring enmity… Read more »

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
Reply to  Herzog
1 month ago

As a general rule “turn the other cheek” leads to fewer vendettas and revenge killings and promotes a stable society. Turn the other cheek should be your default setting, the first item in your decision flowchart but not the only item.

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james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
1 month ago

Even a Christian has only one cheek to turn. To turn it twice is not Christian but cowardice.

Justin
Justin
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
1 month ago

Yes, and to translate that into how the law views “stand your ground”, in a fight or flight situation, you should try to get away first, since you are only justified in shooting if cornered or unable to leave.
Of course that does not apply when you are home, where you are not required to leave before shooting.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

Dad used to say that hating someone is like drinking poison and hoping the other guy dies. It doesn’t do you any good and doesn’t hurt them. But recognizing that they wish you and yours harm, and acting accordingly, is just wisdom.

Tirel
Tirel
Member
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

A thousand years of Catholic Europe has shown that we dont need to hate our enemies to destroy them in war, or execute traitors. Or torture people, out of love and concern, for that matter.

Love and just war certainly exists. Its only when you wander into Protestantism that things get murky.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Tirel
1 month ago

Not that is how you Christian! Nice to see the Old School muscular understanding.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

God wants you to hate the wicked just as he does.
The Bible is full of advice and admonitions to this effect.
While the New Testament does call on us to Love Our Neighbor as Our Self “Neighbor” means those who live directly bear you and do not harm you, not Enemies of the Lord.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

Pray tell, how does that work for the Old Testament where God’s chosen people were viciously slaughtering innocents in the “promised land,” in effect killing them for the mere crime of living somewhere. The only thing that excuses such genocidal stories is their utter impossibility. Alas, man’s inhumanity to man is not a fiction.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Depends on your interpretation of innocent. To my knowledge, the folks replaced were not believers in the one true God, hence not “chosen”. Are we making the same mistake as we so often decry here, of judging ancient behavior through a modern ethical lens?

It’s one thing to say, we should not behave that way in this day and age. Another to say that those folk should not have behaved in that way in their day and age.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

The Old Resentment is very much the story of the Hebrew people and has to be understood in that context.
If you are a Christian and I am not, it requires simply that you have faith that even horrible things are ordered or done by Him directly that God knows best.
Its part and parcel of what being a Christian is.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

My opinion, Old Testament, old covenant. Christians need not own it or take it too seriously. New Testament is what matters.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

That’s Churchianity not Christianity.
Like it or not, the Old Testament is the word of the Christian God and needs to be read, understood and heeded.
The ongoing failure to do this get , because its not nice and maybe its hard to understand gets you the Protestant “niceness” nonsense and is a qucik road to collapse.
If you aren’t willing to pay the toll for you faith, do as ordered and follow the hard road than skip it. Its 2020 in the West and its fine.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

Jesus fulfilled the Law and prophecy. The crucifixion was the end of the old, the resurrection a new beginning. We westerners, consciously or not, acknowledge as much by counting the years from His birth. Let the dead bury the dead, as He said. The churchianity problem I think comes from a selective literal reading of Jesus’ teachings, but it seems to me ambiguity was key to His method, in that he wanted us to follow the spirit not the letter. He often taught by parable, of course. One example: who really believes we should pluck out our eyes? Yet turning… Read more »

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Presbyter
Presbyter
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

Reminds me of Chesterton’s poem “Lepanto”….the call for “…swords about the Cross..”. We are in a similar time I fear.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

A Christian who does not hate the Devil (and his servants) is taking the Lord’s name in vain. You cannot love truth and goodness without hating lies and evil; to do any less is to be fundamentally unjust, and is a rejection of the law of God.
Just because you cannot judge the salvation of another’s soul does not mean you cannot judge their observed acts here on Earth. A true Christian will beat his plowshare into a sword with which to drive the moneychangers from our Father’s temple.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Educated.redneck
1 month ago

Educated.Redneck, thank you for saying that far better than I could have. Hatred of evil and evildoers is a Christian virtue. By today’s churchian tenets, however, most self-described ‘Christians’ would angrily denounce Jesus for being mean and intolerant.

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

The genetic imperative for survival predates Christianity (and all other religions and philosophies) by approximately 3.5 billion years. You and I are only here because our ancestors survived long enough to reproduce, not because of how well they prayed.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

And therefore in that day and age, one might expect one people to conquer another and put the conquered population to the sword.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Prayer and faith are eugenic and improve reproduction. Of the religions thus far none are better than Christianity for the masses,
Baring us taking up sacrifices to Huitzilopochtli or Moloch basically every religion is better than secularism.

Q-ship
Q-ship
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

You do it because it has to be done. Hatred is counterproductive. One can be efficient, implacable, and remorseless without hatred. Take any emotional energy that may otherwise go toward hatred and direct it toward love for our people, your family, and your posterity.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

Hatred is like pain, a warning signal that there is a threat to which attention needs to be paid. Hatred is no more immoral than pain, in and of itself. God’s test comes after: how you handle the response to the warning signal. Holding on to the hatred (rage, fury) is like keeping your hand on a red hot stove long after your pain receptors have been triggered. I find the concept of cold anger (learned from Conservative Treehouse) a useful device with which to channel and ‘bank’ the emotional energy. I’m not saying we should store it then ignore… Read more »

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

Highly recommend “On Resistance to Evil by Force” by Ivan Illych. As a white Russian and a Christian he wasn’t talking theoretical patty cake but was engaged in the same struggle we are. Should become much better known in our circles…

Christianity never implied pacifism, that’s just the liberal corruption sneaking in like it tries to everywhere else. We need to look back for older and purer sources for our philosophical and intellectual resources. Get and read this stuff while you still can.

Eric W Scholz
Reply to  Anonymousse
1 month ago

Ivan Ilyin. Ivan Illich was the guy who wrote Deschooling Society, Ivan Ilyich was the Tolstoy character.

Sub
Sub
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

I have seen this as well. My dad is as much a civnat traditional boomercon as you could find, and yet over the weekend I was discussing the very real possibility of civil conflict after the election with him and he agreed with me. I find it telling that even the group that normally would be most sure that “much constitution will protect us” are waking up tue fact that the longtime civic structure of America is dead. Even though Trump has mostly failed at producing the policies I would like to see, we all owe him a debt for… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Sub
1 month ago

Trump’s biggest, perhaps sole, triumphs have been the inadvertent exposure of the United States as a corrupt, grubby, Third World shithole with lots of money and printers to make an endless supply. All my snark aside, we do owe him for that because it took either enormous courage or utter cluelessness or a combination thereof to endure the blowback.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

There’s no question that the rest of this year would be pure ecstasy watching this happen. But the ruling class would then have an outlet for their failure. I want to watch them manically flip switches like the Chernobyl technicians as the country goes down. Even better if they win by cheating.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 month ago

The outlet for “their failure” is not what’s important. Indeed, it will only delay the necessary.

It’s the antics they go through to obtain/maintain power that is important. Four more years of Trump will drive them further over the edge.

A Trump re-election will make clear we are not “one” people, simply going through a predictable transition. It will be clear beyond doubt, we are in a civil war with irreconcilable differences. Lines now blurred will be made clear.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Bingo! Trump has done more to waken “normie” than anyone I can name. Four more years will accelerate the process more than any other event I can conceive. Side benefit is time to prepare for what inevitably must come.

Member
Reply to  CompscI
1 month ago

I’m now cautiously optimistic and hopeful that we will indeed get 4 more years to prepare. Early voting tallies were supposed to have Biden ahead but they’re all coming in with big leads for Trump. Given that early voting was supposed to be Biden’s strength it’s really not looking good for Corn Pops and DMV Bitch. The more I see of how the ruling class has played this whole thing the more I lean toward regarding them as spoiled and incompetent children who just have no idea what to do to counter Trump. In some ways it makes them more… Read more »

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Biden literally cannot lose. Supreme Court led by Cuck Roberts held all states must allow mail in voting five days after the election. Five days. Biden can’t lose. It’s why Reich is talking punishment and others camps for White men. They literally have no downside. They are not going to even tolerate White men, Christians, etc. White tax is coming. My guess is Gates and Buffett plan a Manzanar solution to the White problem with them getting most if the property and forced labor profits. Think of the money they will make. Probably also seize Theil and the Tesla guys… Read more »

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Whiskey
1 month ago

Biden literally cannot lose.”

That may be true, but it doesn’t mean that he’ll take office.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Whiskey
1 month ago

The opinion was limited to Pennsylvania, as I read it. That is where I think the theft, if it happens, will occur.

CnewtonSmith
CnewtonSmith
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

I agree with all who acknowledge that one of the things that Trump has brought to the table is that he has (unknown as to advertent or inadvertent on his part) exposed the ossified corruption of the federal government at all levels, but downstream as well into state and local governing bodies. I would add also, that he has done the same on the world stage, with many world leaders opposed or certainly startled at his policies and positions. One is reminded of the picture of Trump sitting at a table with arms folded, a look of mild disdain on… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Absolutely. If a Trump victory hastens a passel of Pit Fiends into the sepulcher, then his victory will be momentous enough for me.

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

We’ve got an opening at https://twitter.com/RealRLimbaugh Limbaugh has never engaged with twitter except to repeatedly misunderstand it, but is now actively promoting a new handle. The man’s days are numbered. When he is gone, there will be a huge hole in the conservative noise machine. My sense is that this new account will be used to tweet out quotes and merchandise promos after he’s dead, sort of a What Would Rush Do?-type thing. But right now it is a great place to start bringing people our way by slipping into the threads with discreet quotes and links to our most… Read more »

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

“Canada is that way” is an oldie but goodie.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Sub
1 month ago

we all owe him a debt for pulling the veil off the corrupt structure that rules us.

The sight of President Trump looking in the direction of CNN reporters and letting off his trademark broadside of “You are fake news!” never ceases to amuse. And it performs an important function.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Sub
1 month ago

Yep, Trump brought to the surface the depth of hatred that the Left has for dirt people and, just as importantly, the indifference the GOP has for us.

For that, he will be a historic figure. Trump marks a turning point for this country.

Valchad
Valchad
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

It’s been a while since I’ve lived in the DC area. What are the cloud ppl saying about the possibility of violence post election?

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Valchad
1 month ago

They’re worried about imaginary brown shirts descending upon Arlington and Bethesda. The idea the Antifa might cause any problems never crosses their mind.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

I only wish they had something to fear…

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Valchad
1 month ago

You mean there are safe places around our Nation’s Crappin Hole? 😀

Ganderson
Ganderson
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

Froggie-good observations, one nit I would pick- you say “after…covid overreach…” If anything, covid madness is not only not going away (do I have the proper number of ‘nots’ there?), and maybe I’m reading that into your post when it wasn’t there, the panic seems to be intensifying; Vermont and New Hampshire have just banned youth hockey, and according to my sketchy reports from someone at Trinity College in Dublin, is that Ireland is going into total lockdown. Heard the same about Holland, the UK, France, etc.. Our eighth month of “two weeks to flatten the curve”. On another note,… Read more »

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OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Ganderson
1 month ago

If anything, covid madness is not only not going away (do I have the proper number of ‘nots’ there?), and maybe I’m reading that into your post when it wasn’t there, the panic seems to be intensifying; I do agree with you on this. The MSM are pushing it fanatically. The government is pushing it manically also, and we see how adverts of all forms shove it down our throats. But these entities are doing exactly what we expect them to do. It is also true that many people embrace the mask wearing; again we expected this. In short, I… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

I have seen more White/Asian couples than any other mix, except for White/Non-White Hispanic. I would not necessarily count a White/Hispanic White couple a “mix,” so even more of them if you would include that. White/black is pretty rare.

Tirel
Tirel
Member
Reply to  c matt
1 month ago

I don’t think. The white asian thing is. Good at all

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  c matt
1 month ago

Any number of “Hispanics” consider themselves White. That’s why the Census established a check box for White-Hispanic—to reduce census White numbers, and it worked!

Now I know any number of you will not consider Hispanics, White. But that’s not important. What’s important is that they consider themselves White, or rather are not up to their eyeballs in “Chicano” identity. That makes them much less problematic than Blacks. Never lose sight of that.

Not all races are of the same threat level.

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Tirel
Tirel
Member
Reply to  Ganderson
1 month ago

Ive seen a disturbing amount of multi racial couples in real life lately…

Rich
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

I find that unless people are feeling personally impacted by something, their inertia overrules their curiosity. We are now in a time period when those 2 things are switching sides for some and we need to seize the day. Being a boomer, it’s comical but frustrating to have to spoon feed hints of information to younger people and family members that don’t seem to know their *** from their elbow. Small doses of things on Covid, government corruption, BLM, UN, WEF, connecting dots, are starting to yield results. Large doses would run the risk of tin-foil. As you say, getting… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Rich
1 month ago

As you say, getting them to start looking at alternate sources for news and information is a huge step. Habits are hard to break. I think a good ‘in’ here is to simply point out how compromised ‘journalists’ for MSM outlets. I would ask a person to think of something they know to be true – and then ask if they’d put it in print if it meant they’d lose their job and possibly even the right to earn a living – that’s basically what most journalists will eventually have to deal with. The more you’re paid and the more… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Rich
1 month ago

One thing that kind of amazes me is the amount of rather well done “conspiracy” documentaries on Prime, focusing on government corruption, oligarch control, etc. Kind of surprised they allow those – maybe it’s just their way of tracking me (yet again) to win my one way ticket to the gulag. At this point, I should have earned first class.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  c matt
1 month ago

First class includes two bowls of gruel on Sundays. Congratulations!

Justin
Justin
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

Yes, that is all very true. To that end, I have been thinking like a farmer. I plant seeds of truth every time I get a chance, hoping that they were planted in fertile ground, and will sprout and multiply. I try to avoid confrontation in every comment or reply I make, and instead plant a seed of truth, or sometimes a truth bomb, depending on the situation…
Those seeds of truth are pieces of the puzzle that helped me to awaken, so I hope they help others awaken too.

Rudiger
Rudiger
1 month ago

Indeed, if there is an American “Civil War 2.0”, it may take the form of the Vapaussota, instead of the ACW. There will be no delineated Mason-Dixon Line. There will be remorseless hatred expressed as it was there when Finland declared independence, following the Bolshevik Revolution. Instead of becoming part of the impending U.S.S.R., Finland emerged after the bloodshed as an independent nation. What many are not aware of is that the Kaiser, in the midst of the late stated of World War I, sent the elite Von der Goltz Division to Helsinki to help put down the Communists. One… Read more »

serge
serge
Reply to  Rudiger
1 month ago

The Germans provoked the revolution by sending the sealed train with Lenin and his pals to Finland station in Leningrad.
So what you describe is a little bit of mitigation for the misery they inflicted on everone.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  serge
1 month ago

“The Germans” is like saying “the American people” attacked Serbia, or Iraq, or Syria, or…

serge
serge
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

The Americans had a lot more to do with the attacks against Iraq,Vietnam etc. than anybody else.
Germans dindu nuffin.
By your logic historical events emerged from the ground or ,even more absurdly, events involving millions of people were the product of one human being who had no cultural agenda.

What was the ethnicity of the people who arranged the sealed train and which country did they think would profit from their egregious actions?
In your other posts you have no trouble laying the blame at other nations’ doors so what’s so special about Doucheland?

Rudiger
Rudiger
Reply to  serge
1 month ago

Hmm, I am not here to go all “Frogs in an Icebound Pond” and if you don’t know the reference, we’ve read differently by a long shot. Survey says we all have to be dead, and another 75 years will pass before the objective histories can be written. They are still prosecuting old concentration camp potato peelers. But that effort has a definite half-life now, counted in years. A few more. Like journalists are supposed to, historians should think and write without the passion of the day. No Derangement Syndromes. Man’s lack of ability along those lines is why the… Read more »

Herzog
Herzog
Reply to  serge
1 month ago

You can throw as many lighted matches into a pond as you like, it just won’t catch fire. Stack of straw, different story.

serge
serge
Reply to  Herzog
1 month ago

The person who throws a lit match into a stack of straw in order to burn down the barn or a civilization is not an innocent actor.

Herzog
Herzog
Reply to  serge
1 month ago

You’re right, and my analogy is certainly imperfect, has only limited reach. Still, you’re being disingenious and willfully misconstruing its point.
At the time, could anybody foresee with sufficient certainty how events would unfold? Engaged in mortal combat, you throw a wrench into the other side’s machinery. But how the other side then deal with the wrench is within their purview, and depends on their societal makeup.

Rudiger
Rudiger
Reply to  serge
1 month ago

Your point is indisputable. I doubt that when the Germans sent the weaponized Lenin into the heart of the Tsar’s Russia that they had given much thought to the Finns. However, there is evidence that the Finnish/German sentiment continued, warm. When Stalin made sure to punish the Finns during 1944, Operation Bagration, another German leader in his cups remembered the small nation to the north. Perhaps it was a strategic aim, keep Russian divisions tied up. Perhaps not. But the result was the delivery of Panzerfausts, Panzerschrecks, SP-guns with 75mm guns that could handle Russian armor when expertly sited and… Read more »

B124
B124
Reply to  Rudiger
1 month ago

The problem is that the radical leftist whites are a minority. And I’m not sure that non-whites would fight for them. It’s all an illusion of power. As we’ve seen with the Muslims in the UK, they are terrified of strength. Strong whites; they are afraid of x1000

Drew
Drew
Reply to  B124
1 month ago

What’s the old maxim? Talk is cheap?

Voting is talking, so it’s easy to form coalitions of convenience. Fighting, however, is way more expensive, so once that starts you’ll really find out who supports you and who was just using you to advance their own interests.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Drew
1 month ago

In a crisis (or even normal times), why wouldn’t you want to ally yourself with someone who was advancing his own interests — of course, with the assumption that you also had the same interests.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Well, there’s a bit of difference between saying, “vote for me and I’ll make sure you can exploit my opponents supporters” and “if you survive this violent conflict, you can exploit the defeated opponents.” Voting generally doesn’t carry the risk of death and harm that violence does, so it’s generally easier to form a coalition of course than of fighters. Of course, if you’re already willing to fight, then this analysis is moot. In the particular context of this discussion thread, however, the point is that there are a non-negligible number of people who would vote Democrat but not fight… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  B124
1 month ago

Indeed radical whites are a distinct minority so much so they rely on brownskins to win elections. Hence their perpetual pandering to minorities.
Their strength if you can call it that is their hold over all the major cities in the country as well as select counties along with their cronies in the court system.
And they are very, very afraid of a direct tussle with angry whites.And is why the police and Feds go out of their way to suppress any white movement or organized resistance.

Member
Reply to  B124
1 month ago

Most non-whites seem to be barely aware that Leftist whites even exist and certainly wouldn’t fight for them. There are many hilarious videos of BLM thugs and white Antifa thugs attacking each other. Whitey is still whitey after all… Maybe some of the hysterics we associate with white lefties is due to their growing realization that outside the few square miles they control in places like Portland or Austin or SF, white America despises them and their black “comrades” in the hood don’t think too well of them either.

Tirel
Tirel
Member
Reply to  Rudiger
1 month ago

yeah but a civil war is two factions trying to take political control of one country. That wasnt the case in 1861, it was one country invading another. The Confederacy wanted nothing to do with Washington

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Tirel
1 month ago

Your observation is very insightful, especially if you consider “Civil War” is a term used by the winning side (who writes history, after all.) Here are some other terms that were used in the old days:
The War between the States.
The War of Northern Aggression.

Rudiger
Rudiger
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Whatever the old terms were, we are IN a civil war now. Just minus the widespread use of arms.

Rudiger
Rudiger
Reply to  Tirel
1 month ago

And thus we agree. Finland’s model is more likely what will happen in the good old USA. The leftists will hold the major cities. No question on that score. They are currently spreading around the country, perhaps a feature, not a bug, due to the bug? Where the military throws its weight is a point. However, while they are important in a Banana Republic sense and history, look at what the response of the Wehrmacht was during a certain parade from a certain drinking establishment. They stood by and it was the police that had to try and deal with… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
1 month ago

I appropriated this from a 4chan meme, so no attribution, alas: The reason white racism is increasing is because this generation of young, white men were raised to be the least racist generation of whites to ever exist in the history of this planet. We grew up being taught that racism was bad, that we were ALL going to move past it and work together towards a better future. Even here in the most traditionally racist part of the country, nearly every young white boy in my generation grew up watching black athletes, black actors, listening to black musicians, etc.… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

and then every non-white group on the planet came and sucker-punched us from behind

A particularly poignant line, it conjures up images of ‘the knockout game’; and we all know who excels at that. Masterful.

Perhaps the same inscription could be put underneath bases of our statues, so that when they’re toppled, the reason is obvious to those still in denial. A toppled statue always reminds me of a sucker-punched victim.

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

I feel like having a slew of artisan craftsmen, or even a small production facility, that stamped out relatively cheap and easily manufactured confederate statues, or any statues of new White heroes and Icons we pick, speedily installed where they were torn down, or even well selected guerrilla installations, could be good propaganda. Yeah yeah, I’m LARPing. We need organizers. I’m envisioning Nathan Bedford Forrest on a steed, with a dreadlocked head hanging from his hand, and perhaps a necklace of ears and lips. Lol. I suppose that might be a bit too much. That could be kept in the… Read more »

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Tirel
Tirel
Member
Reply to  Alfred Doolittle
1 month ago

Blacks are such a pathetic race. In RVA they erected a huge statue of a “nameless black urban youth” complete with dreadlocks, Nike’s atop a horse. All the statues on monument are gone, but this idiotic qlack stands.

When has anyone seen a black on a fargin’ horse?

urbando
urbando
Reply to  Tirel
1 month ago

Where did they put the statues on Monument? Who erected the monstrosity you describe?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tirel
1 month ago

Well, we all know the Buffalo Soldiers won the West, just as the Tuskegee Airmen singlehandedly licked der Fuhrer.

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CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

And the all Black divisions in Korea distinguished themselves so highly, they needed to be broken apart and spread across the rest of the army. Limited of course to no more than 10% per division.

Alfred Doolittle The Minister of Propaganda
Alfred Doolittle The Minister of Propaganda
Reply to  Tirel
1 month ago

God, that’s enough to make me puke. I saw a news story where they did something similar somewhere in England with some black chick.

We we should have murals of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom next to St. George’s Mural. We also need a giant field of white crosses in a strategic location to represent all the victims of these monsters, like the SA farmers have on that hillside.

Everybody still on social media, please share gunmemorialdotorg with your friends and acquaintances. Thousands of pictures there worth millions of words.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member

We also need a giant field of white crosses in a strategic location to represent all the victims of these monsters”
A superb idea.

Rudiger
Rudiger
Reply to  Alfred Doolittle
1 month ago

“We need organizers.”

I do not agree. So-called “leaders” only make for decapitation strikes by law(less) enforcement entities.

In a spiritual sense, each man, his home, is a church. Get it?

Alfred Doolittle The Minister of Propaganda
Alfred Doolittle The Minister of Propaganda
Reply to  Rudiger
1 month ago

I disagree. I do understand where you are coming from, but I think we can both be right. I get from a right wing optics POV, “organizers” conjures up images of Obama and gay Marxists, etc, but we need to, forgive the term, diversify our strategies. My suggestion is a projection based on people like myself, with little to lose, being part of the organizing. Guys with families and much to lose will do as they see fit. But I’m not talking about treason/inciting riots/terrorism,kidnapping or any other high crimes or illegal activities. I’m talking about taking a lead in… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

From the looks of Gen Z here in the states, the woke are far more woke, and the dissidents are far more dissident. The center has been destroyed in the youth. The number of total dissidents will likely be less than the woke, but those who battle through the poz are going to be of far better quality.

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Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

From the lips of my millennial nephew this weekend, “what else have they been lying about”. Iron in that young man. Worth a dozen soy-boys.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Moe Noname
1 month ago

It would be a simpler question to answer if you asked, “What have they *not* been lying about?”

Valchad
Valchad
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

It’s interesting to see the kind of ppl that participate in martial arts/boxing. To place yourself in a position where you’re taking hits requires a certain disposition. In my experience these are mostly, but not all right-wing types. A salient characteristic is that most of these guys are not extremely political and can get along with ppl of different stripes w/o shunting aside their own convictions or being grovelingly friendly. Most of the keyboard warrior types avoid this.

Tirel
Tirel
Member
Reply to  Valchad
1 month ago

I dont know,,, they. Look woke to me

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

I’ve seen this with White guys in their 20s. They were tricked by literally everyone – parents, teachers, media, government, corporations, etc. – and when they figure it out, they’re pissed. They also don’t trust any authority figure. And they sure as hell don’t have any loyalty to this country.

B124
B124
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

My parents never talked about race, the trickery from them came in the form of bluepill/dating stuff: be yourself, be a nice guy, happy wife happy life, be self deprecating, etc. All lies.

I’ve swung hard to the right on gender relations, mostly through first hand experience, as I have with everything else.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  B124
1 month ago

The last domino is churchianity. When Christians can stop turning the other cheek, things will get interesting.

B124
B124
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

The bible is great but I don’t plan on turning the other cheek to those who hate me and want me dead.

Tirel
Tirel
Member
Reply to  B124
1 month ago

I’m going to look up the commentary to. That in the Haydock bible. I am NOT convinced “turn the other cheek” means allowing your culture and future and prodigy to be engulfed in slow genocide

Herzog
Herzog
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

The cheek thing deserves to be taken more literally. Apparently, Jesus presumes a guy who has gotten a slap on the cheek to counterintuively offer the other (so as to allow the hitter to come to his senses and realize his overreaction in a personal quarrel).
He does NOT speak of offering your jugular to a guy with a knife who has already once stabbed you in the belly with the clear intention to kill.

Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
Reply to  Herzog
1 month ago

To build on this, back when our rulers and their public health nazi minions instituted lockdowns and I was furloughed for a time, I decided to spend time reading the Gospels start to finish, as opposed to just reading random passages as you would in church.

I had forgotten how much of a no-nonsense hard-ass Jesus was, a man who suffered no fools. Regularly spoke truth to power and was not just a happy rule-follower. The caricature presented by church ladies as some smiling rule follower is quite inaccurate.

Rich
Member
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
1 month ago

Next time he’s back he will be kicking some butt!

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
1 month ago

Jesus was no hippy — as pop culture tried to paint him

Randall R Bridges
Randall R Bridges
Reply to  Falcone
1 month ago

Falcone, I wondered why Jesus always had long hair in any paintings. After a long, detailed personal study over years, I came to the conclusion that the explanation lay in Judges 13:5 “…You shall conceive and bear a son. And no razor shall come upon his head, for the child shall be a Nazarite to God from the womb, and he shall begin to deliver Israel……”.This is about Samson, whom I believe to be a foreshadowing of the Deliverer Jesus in N.T. The book of Numbers Chapter 6 gives us the explanation of the Nazarite. I believe in the N.T.… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Herzog
1 month ago

Interesting take, and it makes sense. I always took it to be an admonition not to get caught up in petty quarrels.

There’s also the incident with the money changers, telling the disciples to buy swords, saying he didn’t bring peace but a sword, etc.

Too many Christians get hung up on the crucifixion, imo. The Son of God rose again, we wouldn’t, and suicide is a sin.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

I think too many Christians get caught up in Jesus to the point where they replace God the Creator with Jesus. No, Jesus is NOT God. He is NOT the end all and be all. He cannot be. There is a reason the Trinity was deemed so important. Because no Creator of the heavens and sun and earth then no Jesus. He’d have no earth to come to. Wouldn’t exist. The worst is the people look at Jesus as their “friend” or shoulder to cry on. What is he, a teddy bear? smh But that’s a popular movement in Christianity… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Falcone
1 month ago

I’ve never bought into the trinity, so I guess that makes me a heretic 🙂 “O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.” Seems pretty clear.

And yes the whole ‘relationship’ approach rubs me the wrong way too. I was taught ‘here are the rules, here are bible stories explaining why they’re the rules, keep them and God will bless you, break them and you’ll suffer.’ Keep it simple.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

I’m not big on the trinity either. Seems to me it was shoehorned to fit into the phenomena of threes recurring in the natural world and perhaps ties into what were preexisting religious concepts where the trinity or threes were already established. I could be wrong, but does not change the feeling it was shoehorned in. I think there are really two, God and Jesus. Creator and earthly Messenger. But then you can see how there would need to be some linkage between Heaven and Earth, which is where the Holy Ghost comes in. Interesting either way. Ultimately, my complaint… Read more »

Neal
Neal
Member
Reply to  Herzog
1 month ago

Turn back. Always look eye.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Herzog
1 month ago

That seems to be me to be an unnatural response. If someone hits you and it hurts, the natural — or reflexive really — response is to hurt him back. Even if it’s just a quick slap. I think if you try to suppress that it’s a mistake with unintended downstream effects. IOW it could deaden you in other facets of your being.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Christians fought the Muzzies for a 1000 years without having to do any navel gazing or Biblical contortions.
It’s not the book, it’s the people not willing to step up.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Rwc1963
1 month ago

Agreed.

el-porko
el-porko
Reply to  B124
1 month ago

Like you, I started getting red pilled through trying to succeed in the dating scene. I started to learn what works and what does not. Working through this I discovered that EVERYTHING I was told about males, females, and their relationships was completely incorrect.
From there, you start to ask yourself “what else have I been lied to about?”, and down the rabbit hole you go. It turns out the hole is very deep.

Nikolai Vladivostok
Reply to  el-porko
1 month ago

Probably a lot of Z Man readers started our journey here via Roissy.

Tirel
Tirel
Member
Reply to  B124
1 month ago

Experience with high IQ white women did it for me. At least in the gender part of it

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  B124
1 month ago

MRA stuff seems to be a significant but minor tributary to this side of the Great Divide.

Sandmich
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

In my 40s before I completely wised up, didn’t help that my parents believed 90% of woke lies, despite being fiercely conservative, which is all the more interesting seeing my dad wake up from the lies he was fed for the better part of a century.

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Per my young 20-something nephew (without my prodding), “what else are they lying about?”

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Yep, but these White guys in their 20’s get out of bed every morning—like you and I—and put their feet down on American soil. It will be a short journey to convince them to fight for their rightful place within it.

I can live with that—and them.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  CompscI
1 month ago

Sounds like you are trying to say something about a place for yt people? Maybe a future for yt children, too? Lol. But seriously, a pox on Spencer for screwing that up.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Educated.redneck
1 month ago

Yep, but more importantly, I see those lost and confused and angry 20 somethings as half-way there—more so than perhaps their fat and complacent parents who can not give up their “good life”.

Give me an angry person over a content person any day to convert to the cause. An angry person you point in the right direction. A complacent person you have to convince to take risk, then point.

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Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

This really brings to mind a profound scene in Fight Club. It seems almost quaint now watching it, seeing how the late 90s were like a Golden Era compared to the hellscape of 2020.
But the writing was already on the wall that far back if you were attuned to it. But this speech /scene today resonates with 100x the impact because the bad of 1999 is the horrorific nightmare of 2020.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7VBR9F2H6Y

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Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Apex Predator
1 month ago

Let’s try that link again… (hate this non-embedding system)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7VBR9F2H6Y

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

In short, they become cynical. I’d say their distrust of most authority figures is justified. Our government doesn’t deserve any loyalty. I’m reminded of the old bumper sticker that said “I love my country, but fear my government.” How this all sorts out is anyone’s guess.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

I noticed a big problem too among white guys when they started calling other men “bitch” In fact, this marked a serious turning point in American culture because it absorbed the black jailhouse mentality and ethos into white society. Rather, when I was young, a guy above you was a mentor. He was not fucking you and you were not his bitch. Or in military hierarchy; if a superior told you to do something, you were not his bitch. And you aimed to do the best you could for the guy above you, and it felt right and normal. It… Read more »

jagman
jagman
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

You are very correct. By the late 90’s the vast majority of whites had very little, if any, animus against the other race/races. Nobody spoke much about race any longer. Up until the election of Barack Obama, anyway. The decline in race relations began with him. Ironic since his was the ultimate “post racism” election. I know many conservative whites who voted for him believing it would finally put an end to whatever remained of the race-baiting industry. Sadly, that turned out to be untrue. We have now reached a point where the ultimate forms of racism are being practiced… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  jagman
1 month ago

I realize that this is a contentious point but different groups pushing for their interests over the interests of other groups in a society isn’t a bad thing. Indeed, it’s a very good thing. A race or ethnicity is simply an extended family. Putting the interests of your family members above strangers is natural and good. It’s also not racism. I may have misinterpreted some of your comment, but if your definition of racism extended to what I’ve just written, I have to disagree with you. My point is that for many people “post racism” means that people should never… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Your argument is generally correct. This is covered in Erectus Walks Amongst Us. In Nature there is (usually) a natural preference for one’s relatives, directly proportional to the number of genes in common. From closest to more distant, it is: immediate family, extended family (cousins), tribe, ethny (small nation), entire race. Arguably, even extends to other species. Exceptions exist: witness the Cuckoo. Actually not an exception, but a clever deception. The “host” thinks the baby cuckoo is one of her own, while it is actually offing her offspring, so to speak. There are arguments, places where favoritism could be bad:… Read more »

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CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Again folks, as Ben pointed us to, read Erectus Walks Among Us. If you are up to speed, 80% is review work. If not, then you’ll learn much. Only regret is that there needs to be an updated version. 10 years is a long time for a book on HBD matters to remain current.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Not to be too pedantic, but isnt the goal to have a land for every people such that society is one, unified group? Why should society be a mix of struggling groups? One large family, in your metaphor, maybe with some squabbles about the right methods, but all pushing forward for the family’s common weal?

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Educated.redneck
1 month ago

Yep, it’s a matter of degree. Much of which is solved when major races are separated.

jagman
jagman
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Having a lack of animus against other races doesn’t mean we don’t prefer our own kind. We, of course, do in most cases.Both can exist simultaneously.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  jagman
1 month ago

It’s as if Obama and his crowd couldn’t let racism go off into the cold, dark night, but had to be reinvigorated and rejuvenated. To let racism go away would have desiccated so many little tropes and valuable grifting nitches, well, they couldn’t let that happen, could it? On top of that, the ongoing Marxist march through the institutions requires a lot of racism to feed the flames, so, by all means, keep the racist fires burning, comrade.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

The AWRs no more want to eliminate white racism than al Qaeda wants peace in the Middle East.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

Obama really woke me. He could have been second (or first) to Abraham Lincoln—but he just couldn’t drop his innate race issues. That was the eye opener for me, i.e., there could never be a peaceful co-existence. The issue of race was never one of compromise and good will—it was existential. Learn that and survive.

Mark Taylor
Mark Taylor
Reply to  jagman
1 month ago

All the other races had plenty of animus for whites before Obama. Pre-Obama was basically just whites pretending having their children be second class citizens was okay as long as it meant we didn’t have to hear about race. It’s frankly embarrassing that our people were so willing to do this.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  jagman
1 month ago

Yes, the point I make (too often probably), that our opponents, by acting the ways they want, getting their programs, promotions and so on, probably do more to entagle themselves in their own web of lies and distortions than a thousand Zmen or ten Sobrans ever could by logical and reasoned argument, none of which would work on the Left as we all know. That is OK, because it is the undecided who need to see the truth. You can’t do anything for the true believer, he is a lost cause. I think things have already gotten siller than the… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

You describe me pretty well and I’m 40. Thanks Obama.

B124
B124
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

This is exactly me. Raised by goodwhites in an all white area. Thought all races are equal.

Then I started being exposed to 3rd worlders and I realized *very* fast that this is not the case.

This is why they’re rampling up brainwashing in schools though. They’re horrifically anti-white and I feel terrible for white boys currently going through the school system.

Valchad
Valchad
Reply to  B124
1 month ago

Don’t raise your kids in an all-white shitlib area. Expose them to diversity or raise them around more traditional whites. My red pilling began at age 6, first day on the school bus as I was trying to decipher what the black kid in the seat behind me was saying. Might as well have been a different language.

Mis(ter)Anthrope
Reply to  Valchad
1 month ago

Please do not send your kids to schools in “diverse” areas. I was a military brat who was sent to schools that were majority negro. Yeah, your kids will get red pilled in a hurry, but they also may end up seriously injured. I saw several of my white classmates taken away in ambulances after being attacked by angry negroes. I was a scrawny kid, so I was targeted many times. I learned to fight back, but I usually got my ass kicked because negroes always attack when they have a size or numerical advantage. Fortunately, I never suffered any… Read more »

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Valchad
Valchad
Reply to  Mis(ter)Anthrope
1 month ago

That said, the toughest guys I have ever known were some of the white kids in those schools. The negroes were were scared to death of them.

This reads almost like an endorsement. We need tough men.

Parents will have to judge what’s best for their kids, but while I’m in favor of sheltering your kids from electronics & poz for as long as possible, I believe early exposure to diversity benefits the child.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Mis(ter)Anthrope
1 month ago

I have to agree. Don’t put your kids in a “diverse school”. Take me for example I went to HS in the early 80’s in the high desert of Los Angeles county. There I was exposed to race riots in HS, blacks terrorizing weaker whites(like myself). It got so bad by the time I left HS in my 3rd year I HATED Blacks. But the price was 3 years of psychological scarring and developing a hair trigger violent temper. Here’s the thing, most white parents have no idea of how much hatred blacks have towards whites even at a young… Read more »

Valchad
Valchad
Reply to  Rwc1963
1 month ago

Lol, I think we can agree we don’t want the kids to be murdered. Read my recommendation again:

Don’t raise your kids in an all-white shitlib area. Expose them to diversity or raise them around more traditional whites.

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Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Mis(ter)Anthrope
1 month ago

Always demonstrate rather than subject them to teach. Youtube can show in 30 minutes all the lessons he or she could learn in 4 years in a mixed-race high school, without any ER trips.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Mis(ter)Anthrope
1 month ago

Very well put. 1) your kids will not get the appropriate level of education with the baggage of race mixing, 2) they will be traumatized, which may lead to a fear of formal schooling

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Mis(ter)Anthrope
1 month ago

You don’t expose tiny seedlings to the vagaries of the weather; you don’t expose young White children to the unpredictable viciousness of blacks. Teach them early and often about our differences and absolute incompatibility, but do not subject them to close contact while they are young.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Valchad
1 month ago

Well, give them some credit at least: they were able to turn a dirty word into two pronouns (she, it) 🙂

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  B124
1 month ago

Homeschool or die.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

This has been posted on here before, but bears reposting. It sums up my feelings exactly:
https://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2015/06/frankly-my-dear-guest-post-from-ol-remus.html

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

Thanks, great rant.

Mark Taylor
Mark Taylor
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

The only disagreement I have with that is that the young kids think they were the “first” generation raised to worship anti-racism and they are more like the third or fourth, at least.

Tirel
Tirel
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Its a good point. Over the decades, i have tried to live the “color-is-only-skin-deep” life. Little things like affirmative action when my brother was applying to med school, OJ, and some personal experiences would dissuade me of that. But this summer? Blacks have lost all credibility to me, and the idea of some multi racial “poeple” is not only a bad idea, its evil

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Felix Krull
1 month ago

Well said. Perhaps the Blacks and their enablers, the ascendant powers if you will, have the impression that it’s their turn to give Whitey the real or perceived mistreatments that minorities suffered generations ago. While this form of revenge or retribution must be enjoyable (never mind that the actual white oppressors or non-white victims are, mostly, long dead), they seem to forget that whites are still about five times more prevalent in the population than the Blacks. In a way, the non-Whites are doing a service to wake up sleeping Whites, by championing the less competent, or indeed, the utterly… Read more »

Barnard
Barnard
1 month ago

Interesting survey from Marist on people no longer watching sports. I was surprised to see “the amount of free time you have” as getting 27% of the respondents reason for not watching as much. That should terrify the leagues as it is an indication people have already replaced sports viewing with other activities and aren’t coming back. It will take time for this to impact the leagues financially, but it will happen. I would like to see data on what people are doing with their time instead. If it is just watching Hollywood garbage or going on Twitter that isn’t… Read more »

Crispin
Crispin
Reply to  Barnard
1 month ago

As for data, I have not been polled. In fact, I never respond to any poll, because: Who knows what is on the other end and what are they up to? Nevertheless, for just me, I can report that since giving up sportsball, I have explored many nearby parks and wildlife areas previously unseen by me in the 30+ years I’ve lived here. I have rebuilt a stone wall in front of my house that I just never got around to with a game on. Looks great! And my garage has never looked better. It’s actually useful, now. When I… Read more »

whitney
Member
1 month ago

I was walking around at dusk the other night and I could see in people’s houses at their TV screens and most of them were watching football, some were watching baseball.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  whitney
1 month ago

I see the same when I walk my dogs…

Let’s see where we are in 2025 with this whole “sports is over” narrative

TomA
TomA
Reply to  whitney
1 month ago

I don’t own a TV, but a lot of my neighbors leave them on all day for background noise. Some do so in order to mask an annoying tinnitus affliction and others do it because they live alone and miss having company. I don’t know anyone that actually enjoys watching TV anymore. It truly is a mind killer.

Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

For me, the decline in sportsball viewing is mostly tied to COVID at this point. I can probably forgive MLB and NHL for some of their earlier cucking (certainly not the NFL). But turning on a game just reminds me of all the COVID bullshit and makes me angry and/or sad. It takes away my enjoyment and puts me in a more sour mood. Contemplating a World Series played in a mostly empty neutral site with people in the dugout wearing face diapers is depressing to me. I won’t watch. The one thing I have been able to watch with… Read more »

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
1 month ago

Couldn’t agree more.
Re: ND football, I’ve loved to hate them since I was a kid, but even that hatred has receeded into some kind of nonchalance.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Exactly. I will tune in a game get bored fast by either watching the blacks do their antics or get annoyed with blacks in every other television commercial.
13% of the population but in 80% of the commercials.
I don’t watch it much. Sometimes yes it’s cool to see a good touchdown pass but I am no longer sitting around watching football all Sunday afternoon.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

I have the tinnitus – thanks Ronnie James Dio and the U.S. Army.
The challenge these days is finding background noise TV that doesn’t infuriate me.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Drake
1 month ago

The ‘nitus is a bitch at times. I had since childhood and thought everyone heard the same hum of power lines all the time. It’s one reason I like listening to violins; sort of the same “resonance” or tone and neutralizes it during the annoyingly loud times.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

TV is even more black-pilling than some of the posts in this group. 😉 Case in point, last night wife was in the mood for TV and switched to “Hallmark” channel to watch “The Walton’s”. I sat down to reminisce with her. John-boy was going off to college, first in family. Hoaky, but hell, I’m an old White guy—cut me some slack. Then commercial time, Hallmark advertising their new Christmas specials. Two new specials coming next month or something. Both love stories around a Christmas setting. First one, White guy finds and falls in love with Black girl. Second one,… Read more »

Sandmich
Reply to  CompscI
1 month ago

I caught this paper plate ad (looks like Dixie has a whole line of woke ads) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S99mD7tJCsI and remarked to my wife “like anyone would care what kind of plates they were using with their prostitute.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Sandmich
1 month ago

Yep, multiply that commercial by the thousands and the current hourly showtime fair and it’s no wonder foreign viewers when questioned think America is 50% Black.

I also note that these shows/commercials almost never pick normal, representative Blacks. As with the Hallmark ad’s, the Black women are very White featured and light skinned and the Black males are fairly non-threatening as well, albeit darker. Pretty much Whites in Black face. All deliberate, and really racist in my opinion.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  CompscI
1 month ago

Don’t look too hard behind the scenes of The Waltons. Grandpa was a gay communist. Grandma was a radical lesbian feminist. Ma was an alcoholic.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

I have no memory of such. Perhaps your memory is better than mine or you read too much into the characters.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  whitney
1 month ago

That’s one thing I hate about the city: all the damn peeping Toms!

whitney
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

I love walking at dusk! When everyone turns their lights on but hasn’t shut their blinds yet

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  whitney
1 month ago

Yeah, I like that too. We get to see everyone’s stuff!

Valchad
Valchad
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

The problem in NYC was the exhibitionists. People get off on doing freaky shit. Almost included an anecdote, but suffice to say you have to be careful where you glance.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

LOL. I grew up in a family that drew the curtains at dusk. My next door neighbors are the opposite, and have a TV that would have qualified as a “Drive In” just a few years ago.

Sand Wasp
1 month ago

The older I get, the less stock i put into “waking up” claims

I have observed over the decades, that during periods of rightist failure, a common coping strategy is to claim that people are “waking up” to our point of view. Presumably this will bring about some future victory despite present defeats.

Both losers and winners wake up everyday. They both go back to sleep too.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Sand Wasp
1 month ago

This will be the knock our grandchildren have on us, similar to how we knock the Buckleyites today

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Sand Wasp
1 month ago

I classify what is currently happening as ‘preconditioning the battlefield’. You are right that normie would go back to sleep, if the ruling class returned conditions to the 1990’s or 2000’s. But they can’t, even if they wanted to. They have raped our civilization and it can’t be unraped. The open race hatred is not going to go away. Economic hardship beyond our worst imaginings is what awaits whites as the ruling class attempts to stabilize the sinking ship of the United Socialist States Ship Murka on our backs. Secede in your heads and contribute nothing outside of family and… Read more »

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B124
B124
Reply to  Horace
1 month ago

How can you go back to sleep when, every time you go outside, you’re swarmed with 3rd worlders who hate you, babbling in their own language. And there is nowhere to run, the entire city is like this. (This is basically the Toronto area). It’s not the 90s anymore. They’ve taken away everything we like and pumped hostile aliens into every corner of our country. You can’t just go back to sleep because it’s just always there; you can’t move out because the white flight areas are also getting (((developped))). We will see though, whites often impress me with how… Read more »

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  B124
1 month ago

And then sometimes you get the Portugese in Angola’s response.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Horace
1 month ago

I honestly think the ruling class may try some sort of black flag terror op in the White heartland to try to get folks to rally ’round the flag. Many will, but many more now will know it came straight from D.C. and will react accordingly. This cannot be put back in the bottle.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Horace
1 month ago

Economic hardship

90% tax rate on all whites to pay for reparations.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

The proposed Truth and Reconciliation Commission will be Reconstruction 2.0

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 month ago

Its what they want but its not what they’ll get. The conditions of that or “super race tax” will end with “What I saw at the Coup.”

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Sand Wasp
1 month ago

Well, look at the American South. Many more blacks than the North, but also much more conservative. As Robert Conquest said, “Everyone is conservative about what he knows best.”

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Sand Wasp
1 month ago

I tend towards your bleak perspective. The rare hopium I consume grants me visions that show the new means of disseminating information will somehow achieve breakthrough and we will experience a lasting positive correction. Thirty years ago we didn’t have widely distributed communities like the Z Blog. With hope there is possibility, with faith a real chance.

Sand Wasp
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
1 month ago

Look, I’m not advocating despair here. Just saying that “waking up” isn’t what some are making it to be.
Waking up isn’t even a first step in the path to victory. Its a simple function of being alive, even the biggest failure wakes up every day. Its what you do between waking up and going to sleep that counts.
Action and victory is what matters.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
1 month ago

>The “fake news” stuff is a nice partisan chant, but even the most partisan Trump people have been clinging to the belief that the media going woke would cause them to go broke. This is an essential reframing. Instead of people thinking that the people in the media are just poor businessman whose product will fail, they are beginning to understand how much these people hate us and want us hurt, regardless of price. It’s the difference between a restaurant that makes lousy food nobody wants and a restaurant that is actively trying to poison their own customers and trying… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Chet Rollins
1 month ago

As many have put it, the media is not there to make money. They are the propaganda organs of the oligarchy. They are intended as “loss leaders” to get the conditioning out.

Bruno the Arrogant
Bruno the Arrogant
1 month ago

In the heart of the empire, the combination of American mythology, civic nationalism and patriotic nostalgia have kept most Americans in a narcotic fog, unable to fully grasp what is happening to them. What finally brought this home to me was when the idea of free speech became controversial. For over 200 years, there was one characteristic that distinguished America and Americans from every other people on earth. We were the country where everyone had an uncontested right to say whatever they damn well pleased. Yes, in practice there have always been restrictions, but still, the assumption of every American… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Bruno the Arrogant
1 month ago

Excellent point. As totalitarian as much of Europe is at times, it still have vestiges of free speech here and there. My guess is the United States, once alone in true free speech, will become much more of a police state than is found on the other side of the Atlantic. In time, Americans will have no collective memory of free speech and memories about it will be derided as nostalgia.

Rich
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” – Ronny Raygun

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

You might want to try Nazi speech or imagery in Germany and see just how free their speech is 🙂 Or similar in UK, or…

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

I’m sure the reaction would be almost as bad as here.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Bruno the Arrogant
1 month ago

Free speech was important to the left because they were the radical speakers. Now that it has flipped, they have no use for it.

Sandmich
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

I still like the bait and switch they’re still trying to pull since they need even their own normies to buy into the system. If there is no “system” but an inner-party graft machine then all people will begin to realize that the milk carton with the American flag on it is way past it’s sell-by date.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  DLS
1 month ago

Free speech is inherently a Leftist idea since it invariably leads to erosion of values, blasphemy and pornography.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Bruno the Arrogant
1 month ago

In the quintessential modern American practice of outsourcing, the American government has outsourced censorship to private industry.

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
1 month ago

Hopefully you’re right. The “frontlash,” as Steve Sailer calls the efforts of the ruling class, do sort of have the feel now of the great and powerful Oz trembling behind his curtain. I thought this the first time I saw Adam Schiff on his dais, looking like a demented two year-old girl sitting on a high chair and barking orders at her court of stuffed animals during a pretend time tea party. I’ve mixed it up with other commentators here about whether or not normie would eventually snap or stay asleep (even I don’t honestly know) but the truth is… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Covid and BLM were a wonderful one-two punch to the face of Joe Normie, waking up many a White from their slumber. However, I’d argue that something as important, if not more important, happened this year: Joe Normie can no longer hide behind his CivNat platitudes. In the past, Joe Normie could recite (probably really believe) his “all people should be treated equally under the law” or “we should all have the same opportunities” in conversations or diversity training sessions. But that’s over. Progressive and their POC minions now demand that Joe Normie admit his racism and White privilege, and… Read more »

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

“Joe Normie … embrace his new status.” Joe Normie’s new status is that he is a member of the most numerous (by FAR) people on this Earth not to have their own country. Every other large people, and very many small ones, have their own countries. Not only do we not have our own country with a ruling class consisting only of our own people, we don’t even have a single country-level institution representing our collective interests. Congressmen are rented whores paid and directed by those who have seized control of the more powerful institution: the financial system whose managers… Read more »

B124
B124
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Any guesses as to why they did this?

It seems like they pretty much had us asleep at the wheel, in about 4 years they’ll have total demographic control over us. No need to upset joe six pack.

It just seems counterproductive from the elites. Either we’re worse off than we think and they’re just flexing, or something is going badly wrong and they’re panicking.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  B124
1 month ago

Hard for Frankenstein to control his monster when he gets rowdy.

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Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Sorry, but I still think “all people should be treated equally under the law”. The difference is that while laws should be very minimal in number, those that exist should be enforced very rigorously in order to maintain a civilization. Whatever it takes, if it gets to that. There was a reason, for instance, for Jim Crow laws. Do I contradict myself? No. White people were subject to Jim Crow laws too. Think about it.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Jim Smith
1 month ago

Laws don’t create civilization. People do. Culture is downstream from biology.

CivNat beliefs in the rule of law and equal opportunity got us to the point we’re at today. Those beliefs were twisted to change the demographics of the country and since the “rule of law” is pretty much a White guy thing, the rule of law will fall as we become a minority.

The Ideological Age – with its debates about the rule of law – is giving way to the Demographic Age where one rule applies: Your people’s interest trump all laws.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 month ago

Laws don’t create civilization. People do. Culture is downstream from biology.” True on both counts, Citizen. But I didn’t say laws “create” civilization, I said that laws need to be enforced in order to “maintain” a civilization. I’m sympathetic to your point of view, but since, as you say, “the rule of law is a White guy thing”, it follows that the laws maintaining our civilization must be “White guy laws” (our current laws are destroying our civilization, as we all know). IOW, White Guy laws conform with our biology.

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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Jim Smith
1 month ago

And they should be enforced on White people. Trying to force blacks into being White through the rule of law is both wrong and unworkable.

Separation first. Rule of law that fits your people, second. (Btw, separation can mean many things. The Amish are separate with their own rules as are other groups, even if technically, they are part of a larger society.)

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Jim Smith
1 month ago

Jefferson and many other wise and not so much people believed that the White and the Negro were fundamentally different races and could not even live under the same laws. I’d have to say that, up to the present, the best intentioned efforts of Egalitarians have proven such pessimism to be correct.

TomA
TomA
1 month ago

I witnessed my normie brother-in-law get redpilled recently to corporate media propaganda, but he viewed it as driven by well-meaning morons. I said “No, it’s malicious intent; you’re being manipulated on purpose.” He’s a retired doc with a sharp head on his shoulders, so not prone to extremes of thought. But then he paused and said “you might be right about that.”

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

Yesterday my normie brother-in-law asked me if I knew that in 20 years Whites would be a minority in the US. I said it’s worse than that – under the age of 20 we already are. He’s a recently retired engineer so also an intelligent and cautious person. My husband said he brought it up a couple weeks ago when they were backpacking. It appears the last year has made people either go further into madness or begin to rub the scales from their eyes.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

I try to correct people as much as possible who tend to use “good intent” as a justification for committing wrong. It grates me when I hear, “He meant well”. On the other hand, I don’t automatically ascribe malicious intent. I simply don’t care, I’m screwed either way—and those people need to go.

usNthem
usNthem
1 month ago

I’m figuring the election has to be the inflection point for any great American awakening, regardless of which way it goes. Trump wins, the left goes more berserk, especially when deep state turds start going down like dominos. Trump loses and the junta goes turbo against legacy America. Either way, the s*** is likely to splatter all over the fan.

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
Reply to  usNthem
1 month ago

The one hope we have is that the stupid bastards would boil the frog too quickly, out of pure hatred for normie whites, and it looks like this might be happening. It may be a slow process, but it’s indivisible – once you’ve seen the truth, you can’t un-see it, and you begin to see it everywhere. As noted by some above, if Trump has done nothing but speed up the process, he’s been successful.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Altitude Zero
1 month ago

The one hope we have is that the stupid bastards would boil the frog too quickly, out of pure hatred for normie whites.” NO! It’s out of pure hatred for green frogs. Especially Pepe.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
1 month ago

The full expression of false consciousness is middle-aged childless women claiming to be woke on the patriarchy.

Beautiful. She is the avatar of 2020 America, the psychologically damaged Millennial White woman, childless and unmarried, weeping and screaming in the streets, vacillating between despair and lust for the black man..

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

White women lusting after black men is a myth. You fell for enemy propaganda.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

Go to where teenagers hang out locally and sit on a bench for 30 minutes. You’ll find out pretty quickly that it’s not a myth.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

I bet you watch blacked.com too.

OKCupid did a study about this. White women overwhelmingly date white men and dislike blacks.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

Throwing out a stupid insult is not an argument.

I challenge anyone who doesn’t believe me to go down to wherever teens hang out in your town. A black boyfriend is the new woke totem.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Throwing out a stupid insult is not an argument.

It’s not worse than your claim backed by nothing but your feelings.
There is also the OKCupid study, which you are ignoring. It’s literally one quick search away for you to see it.

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MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

I literally said “verify for yourself.”

This is why I increasingly have no sympathy for Whites who refuse to accept reality.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

You are literally spreading enemy propaganda.

Profen
Profen
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

I guess it depends on how you look at it:

Some 12% of newlywed intermarried couples include one white and one multiracial spouse, and 11% include one white and one black spouse.

Although:

One-in-seven U.S. infants (14%) are multiracial or multiethnic. This share is nearly triple the share (5%) in 1980 .. 10% (of that number) have one white and one black parent.

That comes out to just over 1% of total births in the US being to black-white couples.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/12/key-facts-about-race-and-marriage-50-years-after-loving-v-virginia/

NonA
NonA
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

“Overwhelming” =/= all. I’ve personally seen lots of mix race children and overweight white girls with black boyfriends — some girls are even attractive. It happens. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or needs to get out more.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  NonA
1 month ago

I go out every day and I don’t see it. I see hot Mexican chicks doing everything they can to land a white guy. I see Asian chicks doing the same. I see white girls pissed off when either of the above takes a good white guy from the mix. The only black/white couples I see are among the homeless– no joke.

B124
B124
Reply to  Falcone
1 month ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-54607713

Here is some comic relief: Bengali woman had 2 children with 2 black men lmao

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Forget it man, tons of cope in here.

I think it stems from a denial that the enemy propaganda is having an effect.

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Sub
Sub
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

If I didn’t know Whiskey always uses that handle everywhere, I would think this guy was deep cover Whiskey with the dooming and black guy fetishization.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  Sub
1 month ago

I can say that advertisers push this stuff all the time and it works like gangbusters. White women are not men. I can only say among the professional credential class if White women I know personally, a non trivial amount are married to Black men and all have expressed interest in black dudes by dating behavior. They still mostly marry White. I do note nearly all the black mass shooters if White men had attractive White girlfriends. Omar Thornton comes to mind. You are in denial about marketplace reality. White dudes are not the lowest, thats Asian men. But next… Read more »

Sandmich
Reply to  Whiskey
1 month ago

I always feel like asking them if they saw the pictures of those ugly yellow babies. Prince Harry’s kid literally looks like the mulatto baby troll used on 4Chan

Rich
Member
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

This thread makes me feel like a teenager!
There are always girls/women that go for the “bad boys”, black or white. From what I see, it’s the black guys wanting to put another white notch in the pistol and easily led white attention seekers falling for it.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

Yes, but how much arsenic will you allow in your ice cream before tossing it out? So is 5% miscegenation acceptable? 15% too much? I’ve literally had discussions with folk who think Whites should freely encourage breeding with Blacks to solve the “problem” of their genotypical proclivities.

B124
B124
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

I rarely see it in Canada. I do see a 30 something white woman occasionally dating a black man. Usually he’s well dressed and clean.

As far as I can tell the vast majority of relationships remain same-race. The USA might be different though.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

they’re hanging out Most of those relationships are platonic, and many of those black guys are gay White girls will hang around blacks solely because blacks give them lots of attention. Doesn’t mean they are going to marry and are fucking The world is full of black guys whose hearts were shattered by a situation like this. In fact pretty much every black guy I know laments how he was dumped by some chick he dreamed about being with forever, and you ask him about her and invariably she was a white chick who ended up marrying a white guy.… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

Being in the presence of a Hutu does not mean the existence of a sexual relationship.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

Observation, more than anything else. While it is true that White women as a whole date and marry within the in-group more than any other race on the mainland United States, these Millennials I have described, while outliers, are easy to find. Also, what Meme described is a phenomenon, too. A minority, albeit a disturbing one because the teen girls at the mall are not yet full-blown psychopaths. We are not far from the Left demanding Whites marry out-groups and if you think that also is myth just Google.

teachem2think
teachem2think
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

While we have not watched any television for quite some time, there is one form of advertising that is being relentlessly pushed: miscegenated couples and/or families for just about any product. When the reality is comparatively minimal, the immediate question is: why? Several years ago, we read a portion of an article about how a “foreigner,” visiting the US for the first time, thought that half of our population was black. Why? Because of the advertising. While we are all observing the interesting times that we are privileged to live in, we thought it would also be prudent and charitable… Read more »

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ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

My Chicago neighborhood has myriad pubs and patios that I stroll through daily when I’m in town. At least a quarter of the young couples I see out and about are well-dressed black males paired with trim, pretty, monied white girls age 22-32ish. It’s inescapable and vile.

B124
B124
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
1 month ago

I know a white American girl who only sleeps with black guys, and she’s been with at least 15 (I think she’s only 21 or 22).

These field reports are depressing lol. As I’ve said, the overwhelming majority of couples in Toronto are same-race, and we are a very diverse and liberal city.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  B124
1 month ago

You’ve got BartlebyTheScrivener and other fellow denizens here to debunk, confirm or say ‘meh’ if they care to post about local conditions.

I take no pleasure, and I do not wish to introduce fiction, when I state my observations. But my eyes inform. Imperfect as they are.

I grew up on the opposite side of the lake and I am hearing from my “peeps” (vomit) there that interracial, miscegenation relationships are increasing, and when I was being raised by muh communitah in the 80’s practically everybody was “racist.” Black-white intimate relationships simply did not occur.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
1 month ago

I’m in a mid-sized city and see similar numbers out and about.

Sad to see the propaganda working.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
1 month ago

makes sense, a third of women are psychotics who desire bad boys or thugs, i assume chicago does not have white gangs, thus those women will jump shit. Black men have thug like culture, women love fucking them if they dress well and are smooth.
Unless whites start developing a more violent culture, with white gangs, psychotic white women will fuck other races, it’s a no brainer.
If white men bother understanding female/non-white patterns and get their act together, no more pandering to needy bitches and filthy races, they’ll be able to fuck any female that’s in their sight.

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  sentry
1 month ago

Years ago it was the white biker gangs that had the hottest slut babes. There were a few bars where we’d all hang out playing pool and getting hammered. And if the girl liked you, the bikers would let it go. Like one big family. I never had problems with any of them.

Black thugs NEVER ever get anything close to that level of quality. In fact, if hot white girls were off with black guys I would get pissed, and since I never get pissed it can only be said they take the bottom of the white barrel.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Falcone
1 month ago

pretty much

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
1 month ago

This won’t get by the miscegnation objections, but consider that of your sample, the black men are probably the cream of the crop: degreed professionals enjoying spending time with a woman who doesn’t display the worst features of the Cryptkeeper’s sister and the Goodyear Blimp. Fairly good chance he’s not a 9mm-toting crack-dealing malt-liquor-swilling Rap-blasting ho-dissing hood rat. The relationship might be purely platonic. In fact, as noted above, if he’s clean-cut there’s a good chance he’s as queer as a three dollar bill 🙂

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ssbishop
ssbishop
Member
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

Please help us with some data. How many black men (per million) marry white women, versus how many white men (per million) marry black women. It might help support your case.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  ssbishop
1 month ago

Must be a regional thing then Because in Los Angeles white guys rule the scene. I’m 53 and married and even I get women hanging on me. I only see very trashy girls with blacks. In fact, like I said above, nearly every interracial couple I see is homeless. With Mexican gangbanger types, it’s more of a cultural thing that a hot Mexican chick will be with an alpha Mexican guy, but it’s more like she is racially off limits to white guys but it’s accepted b/c it just looks right that the two of them would be together. And… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 month ago

You generally only see it with white trailer trash girls whom no white guy would want or the girl from a lefty upper class family who does to show everyone how woke she is.
Either way its no great loss for our side given they are damaged goods.

Jed Evnull
Jed Evnull
Member
1 month ago

Nice sentiments, but I guess my black-pill dosage is too strong. I don’t see much to be hopeful about at all.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Jed Evnull
1 month ago

A lot of worldviews, even here on the Dissident Right’s best comment section, are going to be absolutely shattered two weeks from tonight.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  MemeWarVet
1 month ago

I’m not sure that a majority of the DR believe that Trump will win. My guess is that he’ll lose. The Senate also has a good chance of going Democrat.

It’s not really important long term. It might even be a good thing, but who knows. Our future is no longer tied to the entity known as the United States of America. We win or lose based on what we do.

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