Into The Void

The Great War not only devastated the physical structure of Europe, it destroyed the legitimacy of the political infrastructure as well. Once the legitimacy of the ruling class was gone, their authority was gone with it. After all, the war was not a natural disaster beyond the control of the ruling class. It was a disaster created by a ruling class that could not explain why the war was necessary. When they tried, no one could believe them, because they had lied the world into war.

The people, looking around at the devastation, wanted to understand why this terrible thing happened to them. The trouble was the people they would naturally look to for answers no longer had the trust of the people. They had squandered their legitimacy waging a pointless war. Into the void of authority came the liberal democrats, the communists and the fascists, offering their own narrative to explain the past and define a future better than the present. The rest is history.

This is a useful thing to keep in mind as the current ruling class of America counts the votes in the presidential election. Every election is pitched as momentous, but that is mostly nonsense. The choices put in front of the voters are always vetted by the ruling elite, so the results are known in advance. The exception, of course, was Trump in 2016, which is why we have been subjected to close to five years of shrieking by the ruling class about how Trump is a threat to their system.

This election could very well turn out to be devastatingly important. For starters, this is a rare case where both sides are sure they will win. Usually, both sides know what’s coming long before the vote. The eventual losing side may have some false hope, but when they lose they are not surprised. This time, both sides are not only sure they will win; they think they will win big. This is despite an unprecedented media barrage offering no possible way for Trump to win on Tuesday.

Both sides come at this from wildly different perspectives. The ruling class radicals backing the Biden campaign are sure they are the product of a meritocracy that has earned the right to rule. It is so obvious that no sane voter would choose any other system, but the one that puts them at the top. It’s why they remain convinced that Trump won in 2016 by appealing to the dark forces. There’s simply no way that a legitimate democratic system could have picked Trump.

This time they have used every weapon of the system to make sure those dark forces don’t prevail. They have bullied the pollsters that serve the political industrial complex into giving them useful polling data. They have used their media to flood the zone with fear, uncertainty and doubt. The same tools they use in their color revolutions abroad have been deployed here. If Trump wins, then it means the system, at least the rule-based system, is no longer of any use to them.

Ironically, if Trump wins, the people supporting Trump will conclude that the people in charge are no longer legitimate authorities. The polls, the media, the analysis, will all be viewed as an orchestrated lie campaign. After all, the best and the brightest of the system said Biden was a metaphysical lock. The result of a Trump win will be that both sides agree that the system is rotten to the core. The Left will seek to destroy it while the Right will stand aside and let them do it.

As Stalin said, it is not the votes that count, but who counts the votes and it is the people counting the votes who are the issue on the ballot. If Biden wins, most sensible people will assume shenanigans. Joe Biden has spent the final weeks of the campaign mumbling to empty parking lots, while Trump is speaking to stadium sized rallies in the key states. The same observations that lead people to think the polls are a lie will lead them to think a Biden victory is a lie.

It is heritage America that is the engine of the Trump campaign. These are people who get misty when they hear God Bless America. They believe that they are fighting to maintain the greatest system in the world for the greatest country in the World. All they have to do is vote harder and the bad guys will be driven from the field and the America they love will come back to herself. If their monumental efforts fail, then it means the system has failed. Their America is lost.

The irony of the Left making war on these people is that without these people there can be no Left, as there is no establishment to support the Left. Those huge crowds coming out to cheer for Trump are what makes liberal democracy possible. If they are finally cut off from having a say in how things are run, then the system begins to falter. Many of those people coming out for Trump will simply drop out, but many will look around for an alternative to the corrupt system they now distrust.

One of John F. Kennedy’s script writers said, “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.” This is the subtext to this election, as both sides go all in on this election. For the Left, a Trump win means they are free to make total war on the system and the people who support it. A Biden win and the veil of ignorance drops for millions of heritage Americans. One side will decide that peaceful revolution, even peaceful reform, is no longer possible.

The truth of democracy is it makes everything political. Even the smallest act becomes a moral signifier, indicating which side you are on. This is because politics forces everyone to be a partisan. In order for democracy to work, everyone must participate, which means everyone picks a side. Partisanship turns everyone into the enemy of someone, often people they do not know. A country full of enemies is not a country, but a forest full of dry underbrush waiting for a match.

This is an election where one side will ultimately conclude that the system itself is no longer worth respecting or defending. The Biden camp is much closer to that point, maybe even resolved to it, but still pretending. The Trump side is not there yet, but inching closer. There is no result that can leave both sides satisfied that the system worked as intended. Like the period after the Great War, we are entering a crisis of legitimacy, which begins with the election results.

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Felix Krull
Member
2 months ago

The Great War not only devastated the physical structure of Europe, it destroyed the legitimacy of the political infrastructure as well.

And the cultural infrastructure as well. Witness the last hurrah of the glorious nineteenth century:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cSrqRdlFeo

You think that’s going to happen in the coming war?

whitney
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 months ago

No. This is going to look more like diocletian’s purges

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  whitney
2 months ago

Were “America” to split into a tetrarchy, I’d say “Vive le Diocletien!”

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 months ago

Spain will be our model. No quarter.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Epaminondas
2 months ago

Maybe. But we also have to consider California or Brazil or Mexico. Building our own communities works in any situation.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

You know if Biden wins that becomes impossible. Even if we do build our own communities it will take many decades.and by that time this land will be alien to whites and hostile as well.

B125
B125
Reply to  Rwc1963
2 months ago

It’s never impossible. As a country gets more brown it becomes more corrupt. Brown people are generally not ideological, if a couple white guys hand him some money he will go away.

The only way for the elites to maintain their order is either 1) literally hire every remaining white to work in police and bureaucracy or 2) hope the Chinese will do it. Remember that Europe is browning very fast; they will soon cease to be powerful too.

Sugar Decider
Sugar Decider
Reply to  B125
2 months ago

It’s impossible. Otherwise, explain to me how the White farmers of Zimbabwe successfully opposed their dispossession. Even totally incompetent governments can break up White communities, so you’re wasting your time with that idea. Part of me thinks that’s the point when posters use this excuse — run out the clock until it’s too late.

Lineman
Reply to  Sugar Decider
2 months ago

That’s because they weren’t a Community they were Farmers who had the leave me alone mentality…

Sugar Decider
Sugar Decider
Reply to  Lineman
2 months ago

Trivial distinction. The result will be the same. I could offer countless other examples, but I’m sure you’d have excuses for them, too. Let’s forget the entirety of American history post Civil Rights Era when countless White communities, including entire cities, were busted up.

“It will be different this time.” No. It. Won’t. You will only get communities with national separation. Anyone who says otherwise is poorly informed, delusional, or a fed sowing misinformation in an attempt to divert attention from ideas that will work until they can run out the demographic clock.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Sugar Decider
2 months ago

Community formation is a necessary precondition for the formation of a nation. It is a means, not an end.

El Jefe
El Jefe
Reply to  Sugar Decider
2 months ago

When someone goes around calling everyone who disagrees with them a Fed, I become interested…in the skeletons* in their closet.
“Fed” is the Anti-Semitism and dass raciss of the new right. The new right of course being former leftists who woke up and realized one day they were white.
Go be a leftist, they’re more into denunciations. Also you’re certain to meet actual Feds, they are quite Marxist now.

*said skeletons usually being of a chemical love affair nature…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Sugar Decider
2 months ago

I think you are forgetting the fact that the Whites were dramatically outnumbered and were suffering from embargoes and bans imposed by a United Nations eager to cast them as pariahs. We still have the numbers AND we embargo, not the other way around. Doubting Thomas.

Last edited 2 months ago by Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Rwc1963
2 months ago

And? Fire forges steel. We are not trying to cast fine bone china here. You dont really think you are going to see the end of this struggle, do you? I won’t, but neither do I expect to. And my hope and belief doesn’t suffer for that knowledge.

Lineman
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

Exactly right but that takes unity and goals which the leave me alone coalition has short supply of…It seems people won’t leave the comfortable until they are forced too…I hope that comes from the left losing their mind when Trump wins because that will be a little better than the other…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

Community is the only way forward.

Last edited 2 months ago by Penitent Man
revjen45
revjen45
Reply to  Epaminondas
2 months ago

Order the bugler to sound the Deguello,run up the Totenkopf, and fix bayonets…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  revjen45
2 months ago

And don’t forget to spit on your hands…

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Epaminondas
2 months ago

Feel free to make Sacramento the new Guernica.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Maus
2 months ago

Guernica was small beans, a couple hundred civilians died amongst a military host.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Educated.redneck
2 months ago

Then the art, at least, will match.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Epaminondas
2 months ago

No, Franco was too lenient. Pinochet was small peanuts. Polpot was not systematic enough. All rot will be purged. There will be none of the Falange’s exceptions for the artists, the teachers, the government workers, or the union halls based on a mistaken idea of social utility and balance this time around: every potential enemy will be reeducated and evaluated, and all actual enemies will be expropriated and then physically and permanently removed from our nation.
Mercy to the guilty is treason to the innocent.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Educated.redneck
2 months ago

During my expensive “recreational” Spanish Literature MA program, in one class, una profesora said that more Spaniards died after their civil war than during it. I have no reason to doubt her. Franco was a bastard. He did mellow with age somewhat, even turned over the keys to a democracy after about 40 years. Spain has slid well downhill in the ~45 years since. Given Spain’s turbulent history (makes the USA look like Switzerland), I would lay money that there will be another very bloody war there sometime in 21st century. Where’s El Cid when you need him???

Last edited 2 months ago by Ben the Layabout
William Williams
William Williams
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 months ago

>>> una profesora said that more Spaniards died after their civil war than during it. I have no reason to doubt her. 
Your profesora’s comprehensive memory and/or agenda can be reasonably doubted.The Wikipedia numbers are that roughly 300,000 republican civilians and combatants died during hostilities, and 160,000 nationalists.
No doubt, more than 460,000 Spaniards have died “after” the Civil War, but her statement as quoted is extremely imprecise; the conclusion I suspect we’re supposed to draw is that, post-war, Franco had hundreds of thousands of non-combatants killed.
Given the passions involved I find the above to be conceivable, but not terribly likely.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 months ago

A very good movie which I always site to friends and family for different reasons.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 months ago

Stanleyville, Congo. Or Berlin, Spartacist Putsch. I prefer the later.

Lineman
Reply to  Penitent Man
2 months ago

No password Brother can’t access…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Lineman
2 months ago

Damn. I’ll try a different route.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Lineman
2 months ago

The Christmas Truce, Lineman.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
2 months ago

There was a good movie made about Stanleyville a couple years back.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  BTP
2 months ago

?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 months ago

It’s the onions I swear somebody’s cutting onions

Last edited 2 months ago by Alzaebo
Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

Yes. And no. Seeing the aftermath of the Great War makes me want to scream no more Brother Wars to the sky. Then I think of all the pink-haired harpies and smug soy-sexuals wearing the same skin suit as me, backing BLM against their own people… and I think, okay, maybe just one more Brother War.

Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  Penitent Man
2 months ago

I’m going to target white women first.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Spin geraht
2 months ago

I do not advocate unilateral violence, and I am sure you don’t either. We mean “target” in the sense of isolating and legally interfering with Our opponents. Having issued that disclaimer… nah, target the media propagandists first. Close the lying mouth first and the stage for deranged women to broadcast their virtue signaling and much else falls into place. My two cents.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 months ago

I doubt it will look like such. Those in the trenches were there because the were put there. They had no animosity for the most part. Whatever way the war turned out, their lot in life would not change. That’s the way wars were—pissing matches by the elite, with the general population mere pawns in the game. That’s why we can call it a brother war—race issues aside. If the cold war heats up to a hot war, we know what’s in store for the loser. It will be existential in nature, and that always entails extermination of the other… Read more »

Nemo
Nemo
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 months ago

Not only the political and cultural infrastructure was devastated. So was the general populations ability to produce leaders and citizens with courage to conviction to just do the right thing.
My justification for such a statement? Just look at the Brits inability to protect their daughters from middle eastern grooming and rape gangs or the inability of France to control neighborhoods where the residents are all from middle eastern or African countries, whose cultural values don’t even come close to indigenous values.

Epaminondas
Member
2 months ago

The next step is logical, just as it was in 1860: separation. But if one side feels it has the power to stop it, we’re off to the races again.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
2 months ago

Unfortunately, we are well past the point where an Article 5 convention could do this amicably and thoughtfully.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  skeptic16
2 months ago

Careful what you wish for with the Republicucks as your only advocate.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Penitent Man
2 months ago

never put yourself in a position that depends on gop courage or honor to preserve.

Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
2 months ago

Sadly, this is why the Article 5 solution can’t work. Our side would trust the GOP to represent their interests only slightly more than the Democrats, which is remarkable given that the Dems are now a bunch of multicolored Maoists. Purging the GOP, admittedly something we should have been doing for 4 years, is the essential task no matter who wins.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  pozymandias
2 months ago

I wouldn’t say can’t… unlikely more like it. And too risky to put all the eggs in one basket.

B125
B125
Reply to  pozymandias
2 months ago

The GOP is taking note, I’ve seen many positive words from them. Lindsey Graham talking about traditional family values and that theres a place for young women in traditional roles.

I doubt its sincere but they are taking note. However when Trump is gone they probably lose the charade and go back to swamp alligators.

Member
Reply to  B125
2 months ago

I don’t think there will be any GOP business as usual to go back to after Trump. The GW Bush GOP is dead. Good riddance.

Sugar Decider
Sugar Decider
Reply to  pozymandias
2 months ago

Tell me who else the GOP has that’s like Donald Trump. I don’t see anyone, so I wouldn’t discount the republican establishment when it comes to rigging future elections with approved candidates. They successfully primaried Steve King, and there are lots of gullible republican voters out there. I wouldn’t be surprised if they nominated a Niki Haley and Dan Crenshaw ticket for 2024. Of course, they’ll go down in flames … which is the point. They’re the loyal opposition that puts on a good show, plays the bad guy so voters can feel good about the approved democrat ticket, loses,… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  pozymandias
2 months ago

Some other things that are dead: Dad wearing a hat and going to work. Mom wears a dress, stays home, cooks, cleans and minds the chldren. Children are respectful of adults. Rebellion is chewing gum in class. People go to church on Sunday. The neighborhood is lily-white. The only blacks in the home are on the Aunt Jemima syrup bottle or Uncle Ben’s Rice box. Maybe some tradesmen or delivery workers allowed during daylight hours.
Perhaps these will again exist in some future, but not without a lot of grunting, heavy lifting and, er, “wet work.” 🙁

Last edited 2 months ago by Ben the Layabout
Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  B125
2 months ago

Lindsey flip flops like an Olympic caliber gymnast.

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  Judge Smails
2 months ago

As long as he carries the ball down the field I’ll put up with his histrionics.

Sugar Decider
Sugar Decider
Reply to  B125
2 months ago

Lindsey Graham talking about traditional family values and that theres a place for young women in traditional roles. Pied Piper singing a comforting delusion to quell the masses. Nothing more. Notice how that fake “traditional family values” stuff is just more of the same recycled rhetoric from the 1980s that utterly failed in the end, does NOTHING to address our current concerns, and does not threaten the interests of the ruling class. It’s just a means of diverting attention from important issues using rhetoric that’s safe and nonthreatening to the ruling class because it will never be adopted. That same… Read more »

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  B125
2 months ago

A homo talking about family values is not too reassuring.

Sugar Decider
Sugar Decider
Reply to  pozymandias
2 months ago

Purging the GOP, admittedly something we should have been doing for 4 years, is the essential task no matter who wins. The GOP has been busy purging you. Guys like Jeff Sessions and Steve King. You really think that’s a realistic option considering their power, money, and institiutional control over the republican party? Besides, state governments will be representing us in any Article 5 solution. The corrupt national GOP would be largely shut out and the state governments are 1) more susceptible to being replaced by ideologues 2) nominally more on our side. It might work. You never know until… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Sugar Decider
2 months ago

so please stop making excuses for doing nothing in the meantime.

Making a lot of assumptions there Sugar Daddy, none of them correct.

Sugar Decider
Sugar Decider
Reply to  skeptic16
2 months ago

How do you know that? Has it been tried? Honestly, this sounds like yet another excuse to do nothing, like everything the right has done for decades — endless excuses.   >We’ll do nothing to oppose the left. Instead, we’ll mindlessly vote in the next election for the lesser of two evils and hope that solves everything.   >We’ll do nothing to oppose the left because we have all the guns. We’ll just sit back until they cross some ill-defined red line, then we’ll win the fictional war because we have all the guns. Never mind the fact that the… Read more »

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Sugar Decider
2 months ago

Where did I say I advocated doing nothing? I simply stated that a peaceful decentralization using an Article V convention is not a realistic path. As others above have pointed out, we could not rely on the GOP to look out for our interests. The most realistic way is to have states increasingly ignore federal dictates. If dem states can do it for immigration and drug legalization, republican states (for lack of a better term) can do it for fair housing, welfare, schools etc. Almost all of the federal dictates imposed on the states benefit the dems. They have far… Read more »

Sugar Decider
Sugar Decider
Reply to  skeptic16
2 months ago

Where did I say I advocated doing nothing? It was implied when you rejected a viable solution out of hand while offering yet more red herrings in your reply. For example: The most realistic way is to have states increasingly ignore federal dictates. Why would the republican party look out for your interests here but not at a constitutional convention? Seems like the same deal. Further, your proposal is not a viable solution because the left controls the federal government, finance, and the media — even the police and military, increasingly; that’s why Blue States can get away with ignoring… Read more »

El Jefe
El Jefe
Reply to  Sugar Decider
2 months ago

It’s also a mistake to extend other’s words logically, or to say ‘it’s implied’.
Listen to what they write, say.
Don’t read into others, it’s a double mistake. One it will be in error, two you’ll piss people off to no gain.

Having said that, this is 100% do nothing around these parts, they are very leery of going beyond bitching.
But that’s the entire Right.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  skeptic16
2 months ago

This is a far-fetched scenario, but why not? If we ever get the much ballyhoed total destruction of the currency, this would put the central government in a quandry. Money is suddenly (more likely: over a period of many months) worthless. This would be a disaster for the economy at all levels. But the point is it would force local cooperation, and, perhaps, give more power to individual States. Of course, the Feds would rush in with some replacement fiat money, but by that time their credibility might be zero and the money no more reliable than Argentina’s.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Epaminondas
2 months ago

Separation, yes. But before or after the conflagration? That is the question. We pretty much always return to this dilemma. In the last Civil War, the issue was the same. One side wanted to have a friendly divorce, the other would have no part of it.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  CompscI
2 months ago

I have been on the separation train, but I think now it is only for buying time and sorting things out. This whole thing is more existential. Someone will man the helm of the state, and the others will be thrown overboard. It’s simple. The rest comes out of that starting point.

Gunner Q
Reply to  Epaminondas
2 months ago

I, too, am confident that allowing our enemies to consolidate their gains thus far and affirming their right to rule our people caught behind enemy lines, while we gather in easy-to-isolate small communities for their next offensive, will convince them to cease their attacks and coexist with us peacefully forevermore. … Seriously, there’s no point in fighting our enemies if our first move is appeasement. There is no chance for peace. No chance for separation or coexistence. No safe harbor in which to wait out Current Year. The feminists, looters, tyrants and cultural arsonists will not stop until they are… Read more »

Hun
Hun
2 months ago

All elites that came after the Great War in Europe were worse than the old elites. Destroying the Habsburg monarchy was a mistake.
That being said, the sooner the current system is destroyed and the elites are replaced the better. We have increasingly less to lose…

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Hun
2 months ago

I live in proximity with some of them. They are completely aloof to us normal types. You seem them occasionally flying around in jets and helicopters, but they never appear personally at public events…fairs, rodeos, civic stuff. They are aristocrats. Bad ones.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Epaminondas
2 months ago

I’ve done security work in Europe for the those types. It was a rare time when my principle was aware what day it was or that they even had pants on. Back in the ‘80s cocaine was big and I always kept some tissues in my pocket in case my guy walked out of the bathroom with white strings snot hanging out. The wives were usually so schnozzed and coked up they’d forget who their husbands were. Utter trash.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Forever Templar
2 months ago

did you bang any of the wives?

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Epaminondas
2 months ago

I’d imagine thousands of these things walking around:
https://twitter.com/tarah/status/1323418673940369408

Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 months ago

I see copies of that thing walking around Portland all the time. The “1950s librarian” look is even more of a giveaway than neon colored hair. The other Smugs in that thread were pretty awful too.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Epaminondas
2 months ago

yeah, but put them at the end of a rope and they look just fine.

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  Hun
2 months ago

The Great War did not destroy the Habsburgs, Napoleon and Bismarck did.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  tonaludatus
2 months ago

No

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  Hun
2 months ago

In 1849 Austria could not beat down the year old revolt in Hungary, an agricultural backwater in Eastern Europe. It took Russia to save Austria from humiliation; that is not a healthy empire.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  tonaludatus
2 months ago

And yet it was one of the centers of European culture all the way until WW1.

What you mentioned ended with a the Austro-Hungarian compromise. It wasn’t the end of Habsburgs.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  tonaludatus
2 months ago

I recently finished “July 1914” about the diplomatic buildup to WW1 between the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand and the declaration of war (a period of about 6 weeks). In every nation concerned the government officials were both grossly incompetent and notorious liars. Lying even to their own heads of state. Had the Czar and the Kaiser been put in a room together without their advisors there would have been no general war. While all the nations bear some responsibility, I found France to be especially loathsome. There is also a discussion of the Austro-Hungarian empire suggesting why forcing together a… Read more »

El Jefe
El Jefe
Reply to  skeptic16
2 months ago

Another wonderful History Book about 1914 is “Thunder at Twilight.” It takes place in Vienna and is mostly drawn from contemporary newspaper accounts as corrected by scholarship later. But you read what they were thinking and saying at the time. It centers around Vienna 1913-1914.
They were all there, not just the Hapsburgs, but Hitler, Stalin… Lenin. All the players.
When the War began the Austrian Emperor essentially went into early retirement, seclusion.
He knew it was over. There is some evidence the Tsar and the Kaiser did as well.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  tonaludatus
2 months ago

That’s a fair reading. When the Hapsburgs had to set up a dual monarchy with Hungary (Austria-Hungarian “Empire”), the handwriting was on the wall.

The whole structure was rotten to the core by the time WWI rolled around.

Late 19th and early-mid 20th century politics are …. complicated. Lamentably not studied much by Americans.

El Jefe
El Jefe
Reply to  ProZNoV
2 months ago

Was it? Were the Hapsburgs doomed? There are many who think for all its flaws the Austro-Hungarian Empire was still the best solution for south/central Europe and the Balkans.
By the polyglot metric it should have disintegrated centuries earlier, indeed never come into being.
It certainly should not have survived the Protestant/Catholic schism-which of course it did.

Sub
Sub
2 months ago

I think Z is right about this being a bellwether moment for the normiecons, which is showing up in the voting enthusiasm.

Everything I’ve read so far this morning is pointing to record turnout in a country where usually the majority of people can’t be assed to get up from the couch, so it seems like Joe Six pack on both sides of the fence is realizing this one is for all the marbles in deciding what will come next.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Sub
2 months ago

Except it’s not. Democracy follows demographics. Trump is a rear guard action, at best slowing the brown wave advance. Trump is extremely useful for waking up Joe Normie but not much else.

Win or lose, we will still become a despised minority with all the joy that entails.

The feel of this election is one side getting angry that it can’t get on with putting us in our place and the other side almost unconsciously waking up to that fact.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

They will NEVER inherent America. By the time the brown hordes are completely in charge, even the shitty America of today will be gone. They might want America, but they will get Brazil.

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  tarstarkas
2 months ago

Remember, the “elite” are globalists, “people from nowhere.” They don’t want America (Cuomo to Trump: “America was never great”), they want to solidify their rule; Brazil is not just OK with them, it’s the model. America is only a marketplace, source of raw materials (not even of labor anymore, it’s all outsourced), a landing strip. Life in the Hamptons or Martha’s Vineyard will continue as usual.They already live better than we do (by their standards) and that will only get better as we are replaced by compliant brownies to clean the pool and cut the lawns.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  James O'Meara
2 months ago

Martha’s Vineyard will either be the site of our national open air nuclear waste repository, or New York, Snake Pliskin style for the former nobility class. Maybe both at once.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  James O'Meara
2 months ago

Hahaha!

O’Meara! Wait until the kidnappings start!

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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  tarstarkas
2 months ago

That’s what the old school Dems – Schumer, Pelosi, etc. – never understood. They flooded the country with 3rd worlders to get the votes to take over, but they want to rule 1980s America, not the crap hole that it’s becoming.

They also never understood that their mercenaries might turn on them.

B125
B125
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

A nice white lady was telling me that she just wants everything to to back to normal.

I told her nicely, normal is never coming back. “Normal” is only possible in a white, anglo-assimilated majority society.

White conservatives will fare better in this new world than white liberals – hicks in a Tennessee trailer park are much more Brazil than AWFLs. The world will get much more chaotic, violent, and competitive.

Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
2 months ago

This is why I don’t like the “despised minority” talk I hear on this site a lot. Oh, I know it’s good motivational propaganda but the reality is that Trump isn’t the rearguard of anything. He is, hopefully the (political) front-guard (heh, avant-garde) of a new polity just now forming. I added the political as qualifier lest anyone think I’m suggesting a “sit back and let Orange Man do it” approach.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  pozymandias
2 months ago

I think he’s both, Pozy. Trump is the last gasp of heritage America, and the precipitating figure for the creation of a new ethnostate, which will be both cause and result of “America’s” formal collapse.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

Yep. Win or lose, Trump will help wake up Joe Normie. However, given the Trumper’s I know—including wife, a win by Trump will simply put the majority back to sleep for four years. A win by Trump unfortunately will be read by many of those folk as confirmation that the political system works and can be used to fix itself.

So how does a Trump win wake up Joe Normie? That all depends on the Left’s reaction. If they ramp it up, then the ground remains fertile for DR types to convert the Normies.

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Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  CompscI
2 months ago

The idea is the left has loosed its dogs already, if Trump wins, the national-level cabal cannot stop the puritan purity spiral occurring on the streets. 4 more years of ever-more rioting, terrorism, left wing death squads, etc. will wake up a hell of a lot of normiecons.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  CompscI
2 months ago

And if you wake Normie up then what? It’s not like our side has anything to offer whites. No game plan, no manifesto not even a FAQ for noobs. At best our side is great at throwing kids like Kyle Atkinsson under the bus or go stone silent when some patriot gets shot dead in the streets. And all our side can do is piss on guys like Jordan Peterson who did more to reach out to young white males than our thought leaders could ever do. We should have used his approach as a template but no that was… Read more »

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Rwc1963
2 months ago

Did you take your pills?

Sugar Decider
Sugar Decider
Reply to  Vizzini
2 months ago

There was nothing remotely wrong with that comment. It’s all true. My only guess here is that you got triggered because he indirectly called out your butt buddy VD. If you want to hear about Qanon, Trumpslides, and a jealous beta crowing about people more popular than him (Jordan Peterson), head on over. The poster is correct to note that jealous loons on this side of the aisle have done next to nothing for us while actively sabotaging those who have for petty reasons.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Sugar Decider
2 months ago

The guy running a publishing house and a subscription streaming service that has given a home to many people who have been shut out by the mainstream is jealous of the drug addict with the crazy slut daughter? Sure.

Peterson, like every other member of the “Intellectual Dark Web,” is fraudulent goods.

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skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
2 months ago

Actually RWC is correct.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  skeptic16
2 months ago

Well, how can anything I say stand against an airtight argument like that.

“Nuh-uh!”

Maybe next he’ll tell us all about Kyle Atkinsson.

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WhitePillAlliance
WhitePillAlliance
Reply to  Rwc1963
2 months ago

Try reading Jordanetics before spouting off about JP being a white savior.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  CompscI
2 months ago

A friend of mine makes the same “Back to sleep” argument. Y’all arent wrong. I find myself falling on the side of building/inevitability. Inevitable that the Progs will only continue/increase their assaults against us, moreso with a Trump victory. Fine. Our People haven’t had enough of a taste of the hate that awaits them. They’ll be served more. Some will sleep but more will seethe. This plays into our favor.

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skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  CompscI
2 months ago

Maybe when Trump explicitly throws his base under the bus during his second term in a way that 5-D chess explanations can’t defend some will wake up. There was some of that during W’s second term with immigration and Wall Street bailouts.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  CompscI
2 months ago

The AWRs will ramp it up. On that you can make book.

Sub
Sub
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

Waking up Joe Normie is a lot more important than our side typically gives credit to. I think we all lapse into this “demographics is destiny” fatalism at least occasionally, but it makes one forget that trends have and can change rapidly in response to unanticipated events. I mean, in 1960, 90% of whites would hace assumed America would be a white country 50 years hence, and the demographics would have supported them. But in 2010 we had a black president celebrating the downfall of white America. Demographics may have a lot of sway, but it isn’t always destiny. All… Read more »

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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Sub
2 months ago

Demographics are only destiny in a democracy, which itself is a hot-house flower. In the real world, demographics are just an impediment and are subject to radical change. A little over a hundred years ago, Whites stood astride the world. To say that we were dominant doesn’t do the word justice. We were the equivalent to space aliens in terms of advanced technology and organization compared to everyone but the Japanese. Yet, here we are. History is not linear. If 10% of Whites anywhere in Western Europe or the Americas woke up and banded together, there would be no stopping… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

Your comments bring to mind my general experience around lots of Mexicans.

If I am alone, they act all in charge, but the minute just ONE other white guy shows up and we acknowledge one another, the energy merely between the two of us becomes large and pervasive enough to totally demoralize the Mexicans. Must be an instinctive recognition that only a few white guys can overpower lots of them.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Falcone
2 months ago

I live in Irvine CA where it is roughly 45-45 white/asian with a smattering of others. I was in a neighborhood emergency response training class given by the city. In each group it seemed that the white guy was selected to be the leader.

Boarwild
Boarwild
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

Hey C – you know it’s Chappaquiddick Ted we have to thank for the influx of 3rd Worlders; his 1965 Immigration Act, designed to import exactly the type of people the Dems could get on the Federal dole & keep there. It was – in effect – importing voters.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

Generally agree. Grossly over-simplifying here, probably but I think White Hubris gets the blame for the moral deterioration the West has seen since the 19th century: Whites had conquered Nature and saw no reason to not try and bring the lesser races into Mount Olymus too. Doesn’t this explain colonizations, liberalization of voting and other rights, etc?

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Sub
2 months ago

My money is on hard times convincing a hell of a lot of the recently-arrived they can do better elsewhere.

B125
B125
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 months ago

Immigrants in canada are not happy. Firstly they complain that there are so many other immigrants. There are also few good jobs. There are few social opportunities and no culture. These are valid complaints despite me having no sympathy for them. Kinda like those people who were promised riches in Oklahoma only to find mud fields. They come for now because of the gibs, but our immigrants are entirely of the 3rd world low iq variety now, Chinese immigrants are staying steady and now India Nigeria pakistan etc are growing sources. My guess is that top level wealth non whites… Read more »

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  B125
2 months ago

One thing our side never seems to acknowledge is that these immigrants are miserable. Sullen. Angry. Bitter. And supposedly they are going to take over America. Supposedly the future is theirs. They sure don’t act like it.

Meanwhile, even though our world is being taken from us, we still have a lot of people on our side who are energetic, hungry, focused, determined, generally happy.

Moral of the story, there is a LOT of HYPE surrounding these immigrants and making them out to be something bigger and better than they are.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

………

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Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
2 months ago

The PA Attorney General explicitly stated on Twitter there is no way Trump can win his state. You know, the guy who is supposed to ensure proper protocol is followed for elections. The well has been poisoned before people even started voting and only a Trump landslide will stop this election from being a complete shitshow. One of the strangest things about social media is the inability of the left to just do their shenanigans in the shadows anymore. They are so in their own bubble that they all preach their corruption and can’t understand how badly they are delegitimizing… Read more »

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 months ago

I fully expect Soviet American media to declare a large Biden win at 9 PM so they can spam it all over the 11 PM news and send normie to bed on that note.

It’s all just part of the normalization process, comrades.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

The early results to watch are Georgia, North Carolina and Ohio. Trump should be leading all three all night. Also watch how long it takes the networks to call Indiana for Trump. It is the first state to close, most of the state closes at 6:00 PM eastern, if they hesitate on calling it, we know they are trying to play games with the results.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 months ago

If Trump carries FL, NC and both WI and MI, he doesn’t need PA. That’s 278 electoral votes there. And these states are doable.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
2 months ago

It is time to call our esteemed blog host out:

“The Left will seek to destroy it while the Right will stand aside and let them do it…”

Really.
Are you speaking for the Dissident Right when you say this?

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 months ago

Why would the dissident right fight to preserve the existing system?

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 months ago

I think Z is saying that the rule of law is dead, and Barr’s DOJ/FBI is too corrupted to do actual justice/policing. There are no adults left in the room, DC is a cesspool of pretenders and eunuchs. Waiting for the cavalry to come over the hill is a fool’s errand.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  TomA
2 months ago

If that is the case, then Rule .303 is inevitable.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 months ago

Yes really. The DR will do nothing but rollover. Look the DR isn’t composed of “fighty:” types as they have been told they are not wanted in the movement.
Why do you they view people like Kyle Atkinsson or the guy that had taken a head shot in Colorado as fools?
As far as I can figure it, the DR strategy is pretty much to do nothing and hope the Left implosed and they can just walk right in and take over.
They don’t get hope isn’t a strategy and the Left will not implode,

Johnny
2 months ago

We could say it is Bi-partisan to say Super Rich Oligarchs like Sheldon Adelson, Soros, or the Koch Brothers bribing politicians to do horrible policies to the middle class and always ignore what the voters want is the biggest problem. Politicians are like actors or paid whores who simply sell-out to the highest bidder.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Johnny
2 months ago

Or blackmailer.

Rich
Member
Reply to  Johnny
2 months ago

Your last sentence also describes the media.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Rich
2 months ago

The network/MSM media outlets are just the voice of the multinational corporations who own them.

TomA
TomA
2 months ago

Once again, YES to all of this. Now connect the dots. There will be Crazy and there will be a Jackboot response. History is a guide to what comes next. New rules, new restrictions, a roundup of non-conformists, and off to the detention camps (just ask the Uyghurs in Chinese Mongolia). Yes, it can happen here too. Be smart, be safe, survive. Go dark, be patient and opportunistic. Don’t join into the manufactured pleb-on-pleb warfare. The cancer cells are still few in number, and that should be your focus.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  TomA
2 months ago

> and off to the detention camps
We have a soft version of these. It’s called diversity and sensitivity training.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 months ago

Agree. There is no need of concentration camps, at least at first. Based on your non-conformance to acceptable political views, your job, you career, your income, your friends and associates, your business needs or contacts, may all be revoked, often without the slightest legal recourse (even now.) Already we have instances of water and power cut-offs to non-conformists, even if it was for illegal house party in Californicate. Why put someone into a detention camp if you can have them living in a tent in the woods by the highway instead? They are just as much out of commission in… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 months ago

Exactly, and this is why TPTB are so insistent on not allowing us to create our own communities. Their power over us relies on everyone’s compliance. If a heretic can get a job with a sympathetic company, a bank account with a sympathetic credit union, a credit card with that credit union, allowed to buy a house in sympathetic neighborhood, buy goods at a sympathetic store and get invited to parties by sympathetic neighbors, the TPTB lose their power over us. The TPTB are actually quite vulnerable. They are not the dedicated killers of past revolutions. They prefer soft power… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

This is why churches, restaurants, gyms, cafes, concerts, and pubs have faced the most onerous lockdown restrictions.

I also agree that there probably aren’t any Lenins or Stalins among TPTB. Kamala might try to bark some orders, but no one is going to follow them.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

There are plenty of Leninists and Stalinists among TPTB, but they lack V.I. and Uncle Joe’s malevolent competence.

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 months ago

Malevolence – they have that
Competence – not so much

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Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  TomA
2 months ago

Everyone tries to do that in a war, Tom And they die by the millions anyway. If or when the culture war goes hot, there will be no safety on the sidelines.
If it comes to it – pick a side, and fight smart. A man has to consider his honour too…

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 months ago

If it comes to that, I expect that many people would just as soon die in their homes. I would not expect to survive, but I will take as many of the bastards with me as I can.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 months ago

I have never advocated for staying on the sidelines and waiting out the chaos. Quite the opposite actually. But in order to fight back, you must first be alive. Then, in this modern age, you must be smarter in order to remain alive. Ask anyone in our modern military and they will tell you that if you can be targeted, you can be killed (no exceptions).

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  TomA
2 months ago

Solid advice.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  TomA
2 months ago

off to the detention camps

NZ already has Beer Flu camps.

The UK is seriously discussing Beer Flu camps.

whitney
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

Too many white people. It’s going to be much harder here where the white population is approaching 50%. I mean not that they’re not going to try to do it because they want to put white people in camps but it’s going to be really obvious. And then all the sudden we have freedom of Association. Solzhenitsyn the only people truly free in Russia were the ones in the gulag

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

And Canada, that little Commonwealth place above Detroit.

Why does the Yukon remind me of Siberia? The opportunities in logging and uranium mining, maybe?

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Johnny
2 months ago

The US Government an uncle of mine told me was just a giant Ponzi scheme. To keep the scheme going you always have to have so many new people brought in. This is why Rich jerk-offs use every resource to attack any immigration restriction position as immoral and just no matter what demonize the person advocating it. Must be part of why the ADL and SPLC are so well funded despite being so illegitimate because the rich have to keep this massive Ponzi scheme going.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Johnny
2 months ago

uh, that makes 0 sense. how does bringing in millions of diseased sub-100 IQ 3rd world turd stuffers keep an economy going?

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Karl McHungus
2 months ago

Our currency is fiat (not backed by anything tangible like gold), propped up by being the world’s reserve currency (others use it as medium of exchange for international trade). Foreigners overwhelmingly receive government handouts, from Head Start to subsidized business startup loans which the ruling elites pay for by printing more money. All of these immivaders BUY goods and services, keeping the economy going as population of real Americans, real French, real Italians, etc diminishes. It is a kind of Ponzi scheme. Globalist ownership of the money creation and its injection into the financial system and the economy is the… Read more »

Johnny
Reply to  Horace
2 months ago

This is why another friend told me once even though is is more complex and a longer fix the financial system is maybe easier to bring up to even a left wing normie you know because the fact we have to run up deficits then constantly talk about growth only through bringing in more people to consume is very unstable. We have to consume poisons too like Big pharma drugs, fast food, and other unhealthy behaviors all because this system is so much reliant on consumer spending and that is even the consumption harms us. GDP grows even as we… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Horace
2 months ago

others use it as medium of exchange for international tradeothers use it as medium of exchange for international trade

Right.

These days it seems as though the economy is more dependent on cash/credit flows, transactions, and fees charged on transactions rather than cash reserves and asset to liability ratios.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

It’s all cash flow- after 30 years, still no savings, but I’d die without that cash flow.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Horace
2 months ago

Exactly. A nation which provides the world’s reserve currency must actually run huge trade deficits to sustain this position. (see Triffin’s Dilemma) Initially it was to buy oil. Now most of our manufacturing has been off-shored for this purpose. This means more corporate profits, cheap imports to hide inflation. Most of the money that cones back goes into government bonds which keeps taxes low. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triffin_dilemma I wonder if this will unwind if the fed tries to impose a digital dollar. The reason being is that a digital currency is easily tracked and controlled by the US government. Many foreign users… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  skeptic16
2 months ago

The good news, if there is any, is that our debt will never have to be paid back. And history says it won’t be. And that’s just fine with the powers that be. As long as somebody is paying interest, and somebody else is collecting the interest, the status quo is just great.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Horace
2 months ago

You do realize along with the brown skins come the cartels and gangs that are just as organized as the cops and far more powerful and reaching. And they will do to the U.S and elites what they have done to Mexico.
They will simply walk into places like the Hamptons, Greenwich, Aspen, etc. Murder the elite and take over.
That’s our real future. Not one where the Jews and WASPs are lounging on their palatial estates.
FWIW the cartels are already operating in the U.S. and growing every day. .

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Karl McHungus
2 months ago

The Cloud People honestly believe that the Third Worlders are going to willingly work and pay taxes to support the Social Security Ponzi.

B125
B125
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

Do they really though.

They seem to be smugly virtue signalling about whites becoming a minority and why this is a good thing.

That’s the lie they sold to earnest, logical, trusting white America in the past. It’s all about control, they’re scared of us.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

Nope. Do not assume ignorance is more likely than malice from our rulers. They want to drain them dry was well as us.
Its kind of remarkable: our rulers think 1984 and Brave New World were how-to guides, and Monopoly is how you do an economy. Literally, everything they do in governance they learned in grade school.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

When Steve Camarota published his study of immigrants (legal and illegal) and welfare https://tinyurl.com/y9qp5qhr he found that most immigrants do work, but the work is overwhelmingly unskilled and low-wage so they both use benefits and generally have no income tax liability. (They also sent close to $70B to their home countries last year.) It could be ended with E-verify and taxing remittances, but the current system benefits the ruling class so. . .

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

Cloud people to Whites: “We need third world immigrants to keep social security solvent.”
Cloud people to third world immigrants: “Whitey is trying to fuck you over. He OWES you.”

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Karl McHungus
2 months ago

From a moral perspective, it’s called “virtue signalling.” Why, we must help all these poor unfortunates victims of war and oppression all, seeking a better life where they can word hard. From a business perspective, it’s called “cheap labor.” From a political perspective, it’s called “new Democrat voters.” From a white nationalist perspective, it’s called “national suicide.” 🙁

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Karl McHungus
2 months ago

Because Kapitalism isn’t capitalism- ‘cost of goods sold’ bookkeeping doesn’t apply.

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Drew
Drew
Reply to  Karl McHungus
2 months ago

In a ponzi scheme (sometimes called multi level marketing), the key to profit is to find someone who will do work that you can collect a cut from. The goal is not to sell a product yourself, out to find salesman, from whom you collect a portion of their commission. They want to find people to sell things on their behalf, and so forth. Obviously, any business that’s predicated on sales more than delivery is destined to fail eventually, so you have to be really stupid or really greedy to join up. Guess which category third world immigrants fall into…

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Drew
2 months ago

You decribe the modern economy perfectly. It’s almost as if it is designed to benefit a people who produce nothing but intercede in everything. I wonder who that could be?

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Karl McHungus
2 months ago

Because our economy is based on volume of debt transactions. Does the substance of the debt or transactions matter? No. Its why I can “buy” a $1700 iphone on a payment plan, which installments i pay with a credit card, then “refinance” those credit card transactions with a third lender through the CC company. The system makes money by shuffling debt transactions. More people, more debt, more transactions means wall street makes billions (trillions?) more.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Karl McHungus
2 months ago

We have a debt-backed currency. Whereas once a dollar represented a certain amount of gold, now $1 represents a dollar that someone owes someone (Yes, it’s circular) . You need a lot of new people to put into debt to sustain that.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Vizzini
2 months ago
Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
2 months ago

Excellent. Those huge crowds coming out to cheer for Trump are what makes liberal democracy possible. If they are finally cut off from having a say in how things are run, then the system begins to falter. Many of those people coming out for Trump will simply drop out, but many will look around for an alternative to the corrupt system they now distrust. From your lips to God’s ears. The best possible result would be for Trump to win and it be denied to him and these types realize what happened. If that occurs, and I suspect it will,… Read more »

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Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

what’s your point? besides stating the obvious?

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Karl McHungus
2 months ago

What’s your point, and I mean that in a much more general way? You are a cantankerous old contrarian twat liked by virtually no one here and contribute nearly nothing of value other than sh-t tier hot-takes and trolling. Surely you can do better and more satisfying work on the Breitbart forum, right? Thatta way—> *holds door open for permanent exit*

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Apex Predator
2 months ago

i’m banned from breitbart, thegatewaypundit, and pjmedia.

jimmy
jimmy
Reply to  Apex Predator
2 months ago

Not to defend Karl, as there is not enough time or good reason, but is Karl any more ridiculous than burning America for the last 6 months for George Floyd? Karl’s value for me is twofold – what not to say and that we are not angry or unreasonable enough to combat the enemy we now face.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Karl McHungus
2 months ago

That I telepathically knew you would respond and be the routine asshole?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 months ago

Here’s to hoping we die to save our own this time.

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Forever Templar
Forever Templar
2 months ago

Joe Biden has spent the final weeks of the campaign mumbling to empty parking lots…

Some people have suggested he has onset dementia. He could very well be seeing those parking lots full.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Forever Templar
2 months ago

who knows if he even sees the parking lots. he might be back at the pool, life guarding with Corn Pop.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Forever Templar
2 months ago

Either Biden was chosen to deliberately throw the election to Trump or he was chosen because they thought they could go with a choice that was safe enough to win but with a short enough life expectancy to be soon out of the way.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  skeptic16
2 months ago

Not to step aside quickly so that Harris could take over?

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Forever Templar
2 months ago

I have had more than one person who I previously respected actually counter that suggestion with “no, my grandparent had it and was much worse so I’m comfortable with it and do not believe he really has it.” Oh, well thank you for putting me at ease.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
2 months ago

One of John F. Kennedy’s script writers said, “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”

That tickled me so; good one. And good article.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
2 months ago

It was probably Sorenson who wrote that line. I think there was a conspiracy behind the JFK assassination (and coverup) but I don’t think it had anything to do with Vietnam or Cuba, ending the fed (which he wasn’t going to do) or the oil depletion allowance. They got the Vietnam war and lost it. Nothing was ever done about Cuba. The oil depletion allowance did go away. Somebody didn’t like their treatment under JFK and thought they would get a better deal under LBJ. Whether it was LBJ himself, LBJ loyalists or some other group, the matter was so… Read more »

Mark Matis
Mark Matis
2 months ago

The tribe yearns for the “good old days” of their Messiahs – Lenin and Stalin – who they helped murder FIFTY MILLION across Russia and Eastern Europe. But those do not count, since they were mostly only Goyim…

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

Trump has been wonderful for waking Joe Normie from a very deep slumber. Trump supporters now understand the hatred that media feel for them. They’re also starting to see that the institutions that they once trusted – police, FBI, military, etc. – are not as clean as they once believed.

This is a major change. It’s one thing for the media to be biased, but the FBI or CIA. Those are bedrock institutions for Joe Normie. If he starts losing faith in law enforcement, he starts losing faith in everything.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

“Once the legitimacy of the ruling class was gone, their authority was gone with it.” Yes….this is the great inflection point…the day of the great turning. As the ruling overlords either attempt to or succeed in stealing the election, more normies lose faith in the legitimacy of the ruling class. Z—for many of us, first thing this morning we popped open your blog, read and pondered on the collapsing world. Thank you for your thoughts and this site. Z Folks—what a fine smart well-spoken group of folks to read and inspire. Am grateful for you! Nothing more to add to… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Range Front Fault
2 months ago

Range,

Ma’am. Was thinking about you the other day and hope you and your man are doing well.

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Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Penitent Man
2 months ago

Dear Sir…..Sweet! Both well and nary a sniffle. Quietly hunkered down in Southern Utah surrounded by sheep, real sheep and sheeple. Wishing you well in the southland. Stay aware of who and what is around you. Best wishes!

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Range Front Fault
2 months ago

Good to hear. My brood all healthy as well.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Penitent Man
2 months ago

Good on! Will keep in touch.

Jake
Jake
Reply to  Range Front Fault
2 months ago

So, a Briton tries to do something beyond post on a blog and you use that as an excuse to trash the effort and repeat a lie by the other side. Illegal immigration is not a myth.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Jake
2 months ago

Jake,

Skepticism doesn’t equate to trashing. Range is bonafide to Our cause. If you read what she is saying again you’ll note her skeptical take is with Normie and and not Fox. I applaud your enthusiasm and optimism… but slow your roll and pick your targets, Trooper.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Penitent Man
2 months ago

If I had a tail I would wag it!
Love ya man!

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Penitent Man
2 months ago

Thanks, Penitant, Range is 100% on point.

The Fox fellow is all about that “reclaim our sense of fairness” Libertie, Equalitie, Fraternitie tosh.

We’re being front-run by the professionals again.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jake
2 months ago

Maximus! It’s a trap!

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Range Front Fault
2 months ago

(Side note: Laurence Fox is the Benny Shapiro of Britain, a snake wearing a tricorn hat. A false front- and paid to be, that’s the real treason.)

That aside, huzzah, Range! You inspire as well.

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Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

Thanks, Alzae! As for reclaiming Britt or American heritage, we ain’t reclaiming fecal matter until we get pushed scared to face the salient fact They The Uninvited and H-1Bs have triballed up and want our slice of the pie, after hating on us and wanting us dead.
As for Laurance Fox, I do enjoy his pugnacious delivery to the All Woke, yet Let’s love our Heritage and make a home and love on everybody is naive at best. Though naive may be a place to start as you watch your Pie Piece get taken and punched in the snoot.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

Citizen, lefty gaslighting was originally directed at us, then at Normie. We were wise all along, and now Normie has wised up. They are only gaslighting their own side now. How will that play out? (AoS just posted a great piece on this)

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
2 months ago

We should be kinder to the FBI and other institutions. If it weren’t for the FBI, who would have investigated a rope pull in a Nascar garage as a potential hate crime against a Negro? We need more shining examples of such competency in our government 😀
(I still wonder if this was an urban legend, but 400K Google results says “probably not”)

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
2 months ago

Putting all else aside, even the polity my ancestors’ generations helped establish and keep, this one is for the survival of my nation.

Enough cynicism, then. To honor their efforts, and to preserve liberty for posterity, it’s time to do what needs to be done— and that starts with my vote.

One last chance for politics. If it counts, I’ll be elated. If it doesn’t, so be it, I’ve prepared as I could.

Buckle up and let’s get it done!

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
2 months ago

I showed up maskless to vote at 6 a.m. ; I was eighth in line. The first guy in line claimed to be from another precinct but insisted on voting here. He preoccupied the poll workers for nearly a half hour preventing the rest of us from entry. He barely spoke English, probably a Mexican. Once the line moved it was stretched around the corner. #2 in line was a millennial female. She was still arguing as I left because the vote counter rejected her ballot. She had marked her choices with dainty check marks and could not be brought… Read more »

JeepEr
JeepEr
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
2 months ago

We need the wall moved north of I-80.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  JeepEr
2 months ago

I’m on the wrong side of the divide. Until The Covid, I led a hardworking but sweet lifestyle just a little north of The Second City Comedy which, incidently, is now up for sale. If I can have my lifestyle back, and I am skeptical, I would like to stay. Winter is a must for me inter alia so where to go, where to go … it won’t be downstate for me and mine.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
2 months ago

Dixie could use a few more smart industrious fellahs like yourself, ChiRo.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
2 months ago

Is your practice portable? I would be happy to speak with you about some locations. Post an anon email and I will contact you.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
2 months ago

But go you must. Wifefu can still bill her 2200 per annum remotely now. You could be in rural Alabama for all it would matter for (her) muh career.

Wells x North
Wells x North
Reply to  Educated.redneck
2 months ago

I am grateful for the positive messages. Thing is that, since we couldn’t have children, I perceive a need to do stuff which ordinarily isn’t possible elsewhere aside from a central location like Chicago/UAL. (We’re high-end subscribers to Lyric Opera, CSO and Art Institute inter alia, my money; her money airports and jetsetting; I am an early flounder and yumper at a local skydiving outfit.).It’s too complicated to explain here now at this time, and who truly GAF, but I literally was born centuries past my prime – I was born to be an explorer who rocks to Beethoven as… Read more »

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
2 months ago

That was actually a fascinating little microcosm of what America, writ large, now actually looks like in a terrifying number of regions. Our future of mongrels, mystery meats, clueless millennial and zoomer girls, and mask cucks. Be afraid…

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Apex Predator
2 months ago

I was purely factual on all counts. After I voted, the wife and I enjoyed coffee in bed together and then napped a little. We got up for business and I looked across my side only to see my semi-auto rifle and pistol and my combat vest crammed with loaded mags and even a mollied stabbing knife. The contrast of bliss and horror has kinda made this day already unpleasant, which is why I am escaping to here again.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Apex Predator
2 months ago

It was like reading a classic war novel.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
2 months ago

Bless you Sir. Get the hell out.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Range Front Fault
2 months ago

Hi Range, glad you and Basic Husband are well. All is fine for us here along enemy lines. Speaking of which, we need our own in all the places, not just in our own redoubts (speaking as a person living in a purple frontier area of highly self-segregated California). We can’t concede anyplace to anyone. There is also information to be had. For example, in my neck of the woods, the Biden operatives have been ringing doorbells and putting up yard signs at the blue homes, just these last few days. No Trump signs, but American flags have sprouted up… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Dutch
2 months ago

Dutch,

Howdy, Sir. Not too far down the road from you and out in the boondocks (relatively). Nothing but giant Trump flags flying all over here and not a single Biden/Harris sign. I imagine you are correct, there are probably plenty of non-Progs in your area but they feel unsafe to profess their political leanings.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Penitent Man
2 months ago

Hey PM, yup, “up the hill” in red California, it has been a Trump party up there for at least a month. I’m sure it will be really rocking and rolling tonight, no matter the vote outcome. Between the horn honking and all the dogs getting perpetually worked up, it will be no sleep for anyone, I am sure. The valley will be lit. The whole Trump thing has been a lot of fun, and people love having fun. It’s as if having a good time is not allowed any more, thanks to all the cultural prudes.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Dutch
2 months ago

My voting place was empty. I usually vote in the evening, but I had some free time this afternoon. It’s usually not line-around-the-block busy, but you have to wait. No waiting today. Hope enthusiasm is low for Biden. I’m in a blue area and I have seen literally 1 Biden sign around here and no Trump signs.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Dutch
2 months ago

Traditional values have gone to hell. Here in East Buttplug® FL, there are still relatively few Negroids, thanks be to [insert choice of Deity], but Blacks on skateboards? Really? And on Monday I saw a Black family (?) (multi-hued hominids, woman was whitish…) get into a very fancy Pick-up with those spiky rims. I don’t know trucks, but I would guess easily $50-60K? Ah for the good old days, when you didn’t need to see the driver to know who was driving the lilac purple BMW 700-series with fancy rims at the local Popeye’s, nor to guess where he likely… Read more »

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Range Front Fault
2 months ago

Heh. Rodents are natural sappers.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
2 months ago

I just voted a little while ago in my little rural township house. No lines. Only White people. Everyone wore a mask, because there’s a mask mandate in Ohio, and so did I because I just wanted to cast my damn vote, not get in a pissing match with the deputy sitting by the door.

Member
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
2 months ago

This is actually a bit encouraging to me. The dumb millennial chick, the illegal, the black dude trying to implement his own little mask-based Jim Crow system, the huge amount of fear and stupidity on display, it all does something very important in a place like Chicongo – it wastes time. By this evening the lazier ones at the back of the line who got there late will be wandering off like Biden looking for his slippers and TV remote. Who needs the Klan to suppress the vote when the disorganized, selfish, and stupid Leftists do it for us?

KGB
KGB
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
2 months ago

I was in the local Wally World this weekend, and of the couple hundred customers, I saw one other guy without the fag rag. As he and I passed we gave the knowing-white-guy nod to each other.

What kills me is when the virus spreads through a community that already has a mandate and the usual suspects all complain that it’s because people didn’t take the mask requirements seriously enough, when simple observation shows that its use is nearly universal. The fact that it’s a useless totem never occurs to them. It’s simply got to be something else.

Drew
Drew
2 months ago

The irony of the Left making war on these people is that without these people there can be no Left, as there is no establishment to support the Left”

It’s like blowing up the foundation of your house because you don’t like the cabinets in the kitchen. That’s a malicious strain of stupid.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
2 months ago

This is the first time in my life (I’m late 50s) that I’ve voted straight Republican ticket. Traditionally I’m a little-L libertarian, note the small “l”. Or if none on ballot, perhaps a third party. Not this time. If nothing else, sites like Z Blog have convinced me this is a very important election. Let’s hope it’s not a replay of 1860’s 🙁

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 months ago

First for me too. I don’t care who you are, if you in any way identify with the pedocrats, you’re automatically disqualified. Also, if there were two choices in a non-partisan race, and I didn’t know who they were, I defaulted to the male.

Member
Reply to  Outdoorspro
2 months ago

This is a good principle to use and one I used myself on this ballot. There was a local race with 5 people I knew nothing about, 3 men and 2 women. I checked out the 3 men first and then the 2 women. No one really said much about what they wanted to do. Here, they just have the candidate’s actual application form online as a PDF. They write in a brief bio by hand. I picked the male who seemed like the most “serious guy” and had an unambiguously white name. I found out later that one of… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 months ago

Not sure why I vote anymore. Perhaps force of habit, or perhaps it’s a vote for the process, or a concept of Democracy, long gone. This vote will not accomplish much is my firm belief, just postpone the inevitable day of reckoning.

Not been to the polling place yet. But I’m sure the masked Karens there will assure that the rest of my day is spoiled. If anything interesting occurs, I’ll report back.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  CompscI
2 months ago

Don’t despair. Attempting to buy time is a worthwhile mission, not necessarily a forlorned hope.

B125
B125
Reply to  CompscI
2 months ago

I vote for the history books. If they exist, they might note that a number of ancient whites objected to their slow replacement. Amidst all the propaganda, 2% of Canadians voted for a party that wanted to lower immigration. That is what jared Taylor’s original goal was too.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
2 months ago

Early Sushi Vote totals at Dagostino’s, NYC:

Orders for Donald Trump Sushi outnumber Joe Biden Sushi

>Sushi Vote

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
2 months ago

Tucker Carlson talked about this in his opening monologue last night. Such a big driver of this is the elite, coastal hatred of just about any white person living over 100 miles inland, except for people in spots like Madison, Boulder and Austin. While I’ve seen more of Ohio than PA, whenever I’ve landed there I see white people who were thrown overboard by the system years ago. The operators of the system not only don’t feel sorry for them, they actively hate them. So much so that they put Lady Gaga in a redneck outfit next to a pickup… Read more »

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 months ago

That was my thought watching part of the Trump rally in Traverse City, Michigan yesterday. They love Trump because the people that hate them hate him and Trump doesn’t hate them. The left won’t accept the results if Trump wins and it could be the first steps towards separating the country and potentially getting some freedom from the coastal elites.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Barnard
2 months ago

The only way we get separation is after a ocean of blood has been shed,

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 months ago

They’ve remembered tribalism.

Rational debate or best intent doesn’t apply- the old wiring has kicked in.

It probably is an instinctive response; they suspect, communally and without words, that resource shortages are on the horizon. War is nature’s way of saying “I’m taking yours”.

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Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

I’ve been nursing a bit of a conspiracy theory about “The Green New Deal” — The people pushing it know it can’t work. All those wind turbines won’t really produce the energy we need for industry but it doesn’t matter. The point is to strangle the economy from energy starvation slowly over time rather that all at once in a way that may cause panic and rebellion. The overall point is to gradually downscale our lifestyles and expectations (though not their own of course). This would fit in nicely with the tendency of a lot of cloud people to place… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  pozymandias
2 months ago

I advocate the kind of Egalitarianism sometimes seen in movies: A leader makes a suggestion and then one of the good guys puts a loaded pistol to his head and says “after you!” If only the real world provided more opportunities for this. I guess I’m a romantic at heart.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 months ago

“No social classes,” is the biggest lie in the US.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 months ago

Close.

“Upward Social Mobility is possible through hard work and merit” is the biggest lie.

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James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 months ago

Interesting point. Does anyone have actual historical data on the hatred of the Victorian elite? The cultural stereotype (movies, TV, novels) is a bunch of snooty bastards twirling their mustaches, but were they? Brit elites were big on morality, improvement, etc. Of course, some of that was hypocrisy, some was meddling, but they thought they were doing good for the poor etc. Our elites simply hate the lower orders and wish them dead. On the principle that “They always accuse YOU of what THEY are doing,” I would assume the media stereotype of the “heartless Victorian elite” is an intentional… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  James O'Meara
2 months ago

Interesting point. Does anyone have actual historical data on the hatred of the Victorian elite? Through the 1850s and the 1890s, it seemed that Victorian upper classes, and many schools were keen to endorse ‘masculine Christianity’. Considering that the tenets of this involved physical prowess, I would have imagined it chimed well with the working classes of the day; and I think therein lay the key – both rulers and ruled has a more common set of values than today. Some of the last viceroys of The Raj were well known for their enthusiasm – seen in private correspondence –… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 months ago

Re: Lady Gaga I’ve realized that the cloud people have simply forgotten what normal human interaction looks like. I was watching some lib TV show on Netflix. The dialogue between the 2 black characters was so cringe – it wasn’t real, it was a caricature of what an AWFL thinks 2 black bros act like. Same with Gaga. Even see it in the corporate world, the senior managers have this bizarre way of talking that is not normal. We see the same thing in the hate hoaxes. Caricature of what they think racist rednecks are like. Clouds have totally lost… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 months ago

Tucker has pointed out repeatedly that it is a class war going on and the elites are using race baiting as a cover for it. But yeah the upper classes hate us so much they want us dead and gone. They don’t even bother to hide it anymore. For god sake they are letting the Chinese dump Fentanyl and other synthetic opioids into the country to poison the lower classes, letting big pharma load us up on Oxy, etc, They attack the family unit and whats left of our communities. They import millions of 80 IQ savages and make degenerates… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
2 months ago

If Trump voters didn’t figure out over the last 4 years that we cannot fix this by voting, nothing will ever convince them. If the Democrats steal this election with shenanigans in the urban sections of the swing states, they will issue empty threats about how the left won’t like it when we stop obeying and then promptly go on obeying.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  tarstarkas
2 months ago

“If Trump voters didn’t figure out over the last 4 years that we cannot fix this by voting, nothing will ever convince them.”

I’m not I interested in them. It’s their children and grandchildren we need. Think long game, Brother.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Penitent Man
2 months ago

This is why we need the schools and nothing will change until we learn what the left learned 80 years ago. While the right was fantasizing about guns or collapse or people waking up, the left were rolling up their sleeves and getting to work. Worst of all, we are financing all of it. Not just the schools either. We fund planned parenthood, we fund abortion clinics, NPR, we fund the activists out rioting, we fund the schools indirectly too. All those wacky xirls all do government financed “work” published in journals libraries and schools are required to purchase at… Read more »

Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
2 months ago

Trump’s banishment of critical race theory is a good (mostly symbolic) shot across the bow of the institutional Left and suggests a course to follow. There’s nothing wrong with guns, physical training, prepping, or trying to get based candidates elected. Our task becomes much easier though if we can stop government funds at all levels (and corporate profits) from going to the Left. The next thing Trump could do in his second term would be to defund NPR. Again, this is mostly symbolic but strikes a demoralizing blow at the type of white pseudo-intellectual who props up the Democratic Party.… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  pozymandias
2 months ago

Defund National Public Radio? But then who would broadcast twenty hours a week of bluegrass in our Nation’s Capital? (Yes, really, at least they used to.)

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  tarstarkas
2 months ago

Tars,

Yes sir. We need to push private, religious, and home schooling. Voucher programs. And yes, we lose to may of Our young to the propaganda but I am here to tell you that many of the youth are open to rebellion.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Penitent Man
2 months ago

I don’t oppose those things, but they are fundamentally unfair and will never affect a large number of people.
If you send your kids to private school, you are still paying for public schools.

Kapper
Kapper
Reply to  tarstarkas
2 months ago

100% correct! See what happened in Orange County, California after the 2018 midterms. Initially 4 of the 6 Congressional districts in the county were won by Republicans, but a week later they all went Blue. And the GOP…mumbled and grumbled but did nothing about it.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/all-of-orange-county-turns-blue-after-democrats-find-thousands-of-votes-post-election-day/

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Kapper
2 months ago

Holy sh**, Kapper. That’s pretty damned obvious, as subtle as a tidal wave.

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  tarstarkas
2 months ago

they will issue empty threats about how the left won’t like it when we stop obeying and then promptly go on obeying.”

That’s it in a nutshell.

B125
B125
Reply to  tarstarkas
2 months ago

My guess is that Pennsylvania will be contested up to the supreme court, which will then give it to Biden. Swamp monsters look out for their own. A final fick you from the elites to Trump and his supporters.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  B125
2 months ago

Two opposing factions alternately giving each other the giant finger in a national match up every four years seems to be our actual system of government.

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Member
Reply to  ProZNoV
2 months ago

It is one of the few things our government still does well.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  tarstarkas
2 months ago

I’m not sure anyone has a handle on how anything plays from tonight forward. One thing to keep in mind is that individual opinions can change profoundly,when one’s lived life is changed by the matters of the day. The little movies on our heads play all sorts of conjured up things (for people on all sides, including ours), but when neighborhoods burn and people physically get called out or non-personed at work, then things change fast. Buckle up.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tarstarkas
2 months ago

You might be amazed how many rules can be disobeyed if you do a little investigation 😎

Thud Muffle
Member
2 months ago

Republics have a shelf life. Sorry about that, it was a hell of a run. And it really was the last best hope of mankind.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Thud Muffle
2 months ago

I honestly feel that Whites are the only hope for this living world, and its highest achievement. It may be that Heaven is majority White- that is what I still mean to measure.

This belief hit me like a hammer when watching a youtube trailer for the movie “Tenet”.

It has a black protagonist, but look at everything- EVERYTHING- around him, including the means to make and distribute the movie itself.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 months ago

“Tenet,” was predictive programming to normalize the idea of black 007 as well as Denzel’s kid’s audition for the role of 007.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Thud Muffle
2 months ago

“it really was the last best hope of mankind.”
Thanks for the laugh.

Barn Jollycorn
Barn Jollycorn
2 months ago

“The truth of democracy is it makes everything political. Even the smallest act becomes a moral signifier, indicating which side you are on.” Not in a homogenous ethnostate. Then the small acts, a walk in the park, a picnic, a shopping trip, a community celebration, are enjoyed without recourse to politics. Only with the blessings of diversity, and the requisite socialism that diversity always brings in tow, is everything, even a smile (Covington), politicized. “You may not care about politics, but politics cares about you” has much greater force in a diversified state where politicians don’t exist to serve the… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Barn Jollycorn
2 months ago

Indeed. Remember when Reagan used to sit down with the speaker of the House in the Capital bar punching down Scotch and working out deals. We were a White nation then and the joys of diversity not yet fully realized.

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  CompscI
2 months ago

A certain type of conservative would point out that having two Micks (Reagan & O’Neill) sit around deciding our fate while getting drunk is exactly how things went wrong. That’s what “nativism,” Know-Nothings, KKK, prohibition, etc. were all about; Gangs of New York stuff. Wanna talk about HBD or family values? “It was a brisk February evening in Dixon, Illinois in 1922. Returning home from a basketball game at the YMCA, 11-year-old Ronald expected to arrive to an empty house. Instead, he was stunned by the sight of his father sprawled out in the snow on the front porch. “He… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  CompscI
2 months ago

Regan enacted the largest amnesty this country had seen. GHWB enacted H-1B and OPT (which like DACA, are not legislation, yet are never challenged.) Bush also more than doubled legal immigration w/ the Immigration Act of 1990. The GOP are not your friends

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  CompscI
2 months ago

yeah, those were great days. especially the first amnesty deal. good times.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Barn Jollycorn
2 months ago

Wow. Wow. Forced mixing is why ‘democracy’ fails, and here’s proof:

Thailand, Columbia, Japan, Iraq, Israel, Gambia, Romania- it doesn’t matter whether they’ve had kings or democracies. The people and culture remain the same.

The Zman is searching for peers to help our people get past the shoals. Can there be a political adaptation to counter, or to help us adapt to, the largest cross migration in history?

Dr_mantis_ toboggan
Member
2 months ago

Here in the deep red Blue Ridge Mountain county in north Georgia where I live, there are huge lines snaking around the block.
I hear similar reports from other deep red counties. Anecdotal sure, but interesting.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Dr_mantis_ toboggan
2 months ago

For some reason, they’ve not yet contracted the number of polling places—even though elections are now 80%+ mail in. There are few lines. I suspect a contraction in the next election due to shortage of poll workers, this year very critical due to Chinese virus concerns and the age of volunteers. Even worse, I could see a move to simply make everyone vote by mail.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Dr_mantis_ toboggan
2 months ago

Here in Salt Lake, one of the major polling stations seems pretty packed.

More interesting was the group of 25+ Mexicans standing on the corner waving huge Trump 2020 signs and the blue-cop US flag. That was a bit of a surprise.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  ProZNoV
2 months ago

Why not? He’s promised the AA’s a $500B Platinum Plan. He’s promised Latinos the American Dream Plan. The people who elected him in 2016. . .?

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2 months ago

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Yak-15
Yak-15
2 months ago

In five years the left will decry the loss of the civic nationalist conservative. “What happened to the respectable country first GOP” they will shriek.

Whiskey
Whiskey
2 months ago

Edward M Luttvak has a piece up on American Mind about how Petraeus ghostwriter is pushing for a coup. He rates it highly probable.
If when will Gen Miley just hand over the keys to Hunter Biden? Or grab power for himself? Will we see Reverse Pinochet? Helicopter rides for straight White men?

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Whiskey
2 months ago

To quote the Critical Drinker ” ‘Nah, it’ll be fine”.

Republicans don’t marshal in force, even though they’ve an insane amount of guns. They just quietly grumble and accept what they’re told. (and buy more guns)

Democrats marshal in force, but only to burn their own cities down and to get free sneakers and TV’s.

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
2 months ago

Dr. Mantis and Chicago Rodent both point out the long lines in their respective enclaves (rural GA and Chicago).

I hope and pray the GA voters are lined up and voting, efficiently and in mass.

From first hand experience and as a former neighbor of Mr. Rodent, the IL voters are lining up because they don’t know how to plug in the voting machine.

Alex
Alex
2 months ago

I’m feeling good, had a nice lunch, then read the old Zman for my dose of harsh reality…
Either way this goes, I think its good for our side. As he says, either Trump wins and it defers the collapse by a few more years, or Team Biden steals it and the veil of ignorance drops for everyone.
Let the games begin.