What We Learned

Elections are one of those windows into the nature of a society, like the roads or public transport systems. It is a manifestation of the real nature of society. In the case of elections, it is not about the results, but about how the election is run. Orderly, well run societies have orderly, well run elections. The results are known soon after the votes are cast and no one questions them. In disorderly, low-trust societies, the vote is messy and chaotic and no one takes the results at face value.

You see that with yesterday’s election. Most people voting remember when you stopped off to vote on the way home from work or maybe before work. Office people could vote at their lunch break, because it only took a half hour at most. In most of the country, even big urban areas, it was rare to run into long lines or delays. Today, the opposite is now true. It is rare to experience an orderly, well run polling station. Instead it is long lines, broken equipment and lots of shenanigans.

Of course, those chaotic voting stations are not able to tally the votes in a timely manner, so the count carries on for days in some areas. Back in the days of mechanical voting machines and paper ballots, the vote was counted in hours. If the polls in a state closed at seven, the vote was known by nine. Again, there were exceptions, as nothing is perfect, but they were exceptions. Yesterday’s vote will not be known for weeks and much of it will be decided in the courts.

Now, one big reason for the delay is the people counting the votes need time to rig the results in such a way that makes it hard for the courts to see it. Pennsylvania, for example, is furiously printing up new ballots for people who did not vote. These will be filled out for Biden and other party candidates, then dropped off at post offices around the state so they can be added to the real votes. They now have nine days to make up enough fake ballots to tip the state to Mumbly Joe.

In states like California, general incompetence rules the day. Since most of the voters now are foreign born, the results are known in advance. It’s why no one bothers to campaign in the state. Still, in order to maintain the fiction of democracy they run elections, but it takes them weeks to produce a result. Like everything else about the state, their elections are very third world, which is no surprise as the majority of the population is from primitive societies. Demographics are destiny.

It used to be that America would send international observers to a country to make sure their elections were free and fair. The claim was the government was either too crooked or too inept to manage an election, even if they wanted to do it. A gaggle of experts from the West would be sent in to help organize the voting and make sure everything was done properly. These international observers would supervise the counting so that everyone could trust the result.

Now, the shoe is on the other foot. The UN should probably step in and start supervising American elections, because the government is so corrupt and incompetent, no one can trust them to run an election. Iraq now has more orderly and honest elections than most states in America. Iraq actually requires voters to present an ID and they make voters do the purple finger thing to prevent ballot stuffing. Maybe the Iraqi government can send supervisors to Pennsylvania.

In the coming weeks, as this circus drags on in the courts, lots of people will compare it to the so-called banana republics. That is not fair, as those banana republics did not ask for democracy. It was imposed on them. Left to their own devices, they would have been happy with some form of big-man government. It was Western business that demanded democracy, so they could more easily exploit these countries. It is easier to bribe parliamentary mediocrities than an oligarch or despot.

The United States does not have that excuse. If the people were free of their depots, tyrants and lunatics, they would revert back to moderate self-government. The problems faced today are the result of a crooked and disgusting ruling class. In many cases, the people in charge are genuinely insane. Gretchen Whitmer is becoming a modern day Christian VII of Denmark. Our increasingly bizarre and corrupt elections reflect the nature of the American ruling class, not the people.

It is an axiom of the dissident right that democracies always end in despotism, but that is not really true. After Athens lost the Peloponnesian War and democracy was suspended in favor of the “Thirty Tyrants“, the people still wanted to return to their natural way of governing themselves. Eventually those tyrants were overturned and democracy was restored. The institutions of a people are the product of their biology and their culture. That is the chain of causality.

In 1787, Thomas Jefferson wrote a letter to the son-in-law of John Adams in which he stated, “The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.” Later he asked, “What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion?” This is a question for us now.

If those words sound familiar, they should. In that same letter Jefferson wrote the famous words, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.” That is the real lesson of yesterday’s election charade. The time is soon coming when our petty tyrants will be trembling in their homes or slithering across the border. These disgusting piggish buffoons must meet the fate of all tyrants. That’s what we learned yesterday.

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Arthur C.
Arthur C.
3 years ago

For people not on Gab, the Zman’s Gab comment on the election is also very sharp: *** I must admit that even though I’ve been predicting a rigged election for months, it is still a let down to see it happening. It’s like the passing of an old friend who has been sick for a long time. You know what’s coming, but it still feels bad when it happens. America has been sick for a long time. Most here have known it. Some maybe hoped Trump was the miracle cure. Others thought they had reconciled themselves to the inevitable. Others… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Arthur C.
3 years ago

True.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Arthur C.
3 years ago

Exactly how I feel

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Arthur C.
3 years ago

Anyone who doesn’t have a tinge of mourning, even though the republic died years ago, is soulless. Let’s get to the acceptance stage of grief ASAP.

Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

When do we get to the revenge stage of grief? I didn’t read that book by that woman… Elizabeth Jewishname Roth wasn’t it?

Kentucky Headhunter
Kentucky Headhunter
3 years ago

“Back in the days of mechanical voting machines and paper ballots, the vote was counted in hours. If the polls in a state closed at seven, the vote was known by nine.”

Yep. The only reason for this to have changed is to make fraud easier to perpetrate.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
3 years ago

The polling station chaos is a feature, not a bug.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

It is…amusing that in the time since the Florida election imbroglio of 2000 that voting management and procedures that were supposedly meant to address the issues have continually made the situation worse, not better.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

That is also intentional.

Some Leftist, one of the Naomis I think, wrote an entire book about disaster as political opportunities back in the GWB administration.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

Just like “expanding the voting franchise” has produced worse candidates.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

Most solutions conceal new problems. And that is why I’m skeptical of the notion of progress.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

That is wise.
Progressive thought is kind of baked into the cake since our original eschatology is linear and assumes a happy ending.
Same with its toned down cousin,the Whig theory of history.
I have a more Buddhist POV myself and assume while a person or occasionally a group of people may achieve whatever enlightenment is, groups and societies do not.
History doesn’t exactly repeat or rhyme but it will play out the same themes over and over till the end of days.

Member
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

The American system has perfected a sort of ritualistic “dance of reform”. It works like this:

X isn’t working!

This step can then be followed by one or both of; throw more money at X! or throw whizbang technology at X!

It later turns out that the money got stolen somehow and/or the technology turned out to be a perpetual motion machine hooked to a Rube Goldberg mousetrap and a random number generator.

A few years later we start to hear… X isn’t working! We need more….

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Welp, we wanted the system delegitimized. Now we’re getting it, good and hard.
It will mean strife and uncertainty for the rest of many of our lives, but the potential for our children to live in a society that doesn’t hate them.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

It couldn’t have been any other way.

jo blo
jo blo
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Regions which cannot run an election honestly should be expelled from the union. Who decides? A constitutional convention to add ballot security measures to the constitution. Let states who can’t abide rules GTFO. A split would require replacing the dollar anyway, which is another catastrophe soon to happen, and perhaps best done while a bit of advantage can be gained – let the blue states keep all that debt based currency while we switch to a commodity based $ and refuse to take the old $ ? This could be done so that some very deserving entities get screwed –… Read more »

whitney
Member
3 years ago

It’s just so aggravating all the tension leading up to one day and splat, it’s now going to go on for months.

whitney
Member
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I’m already there but the truth is I’v known for months that there was going to be no result on Election Day and yet still I’m disappointed. It just proves I’m living in a fantasy world also

whitney
Member
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Yeah. I’m going back to my original mantra. Whatever happens is the best result for white people

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

That’s the right attitude, Whitney. Brief disappointment is acceptable. A Trump victory should never have been an integral part of any of Our individual or movement planning. Simply one of a number of possibilities that need to be accounted for. Gird your loins, stay physically and mentally fit, and pivot when necessary.

Durendal
Durendal
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

As men of European heritage we don’t have the luxury of wallowing in despair. We shake it off and get to work.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

Yes sir. You couldn’t be more correct. Knowing nothing about you, but on the merit of your many comments here alone, I’d gladly share a foxhole with you.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

But which of you would dig said foxhole?

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Yeah, our side forgets how long this fight has been going on. It took a good 75 years to get to where we are. It could easily take as long to get us where we want to go.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I just saw a demographic breakdown showing blacks went 90% for Biden. This after Trump’s letting a bunch of criminals out of jail, and endless pandering to rappers and such. Can we please just give up on thinking blacks will ever be anything but Democratic pets?

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

Joggers run with Joggers. Always. Kissing Jogger ass is a fool’s errand.

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

Whoa, whoa … you think that the Joggers are able to pull this off by themselves? They may be involved with some manual labor, but the planning is way above them. Just like the looting.

Go on Gab and you’ll a video of some guy who sounds White’ish … maybe hispanic … lighting Trump ballots on fire in the woods. ITS NOT JUST JOGGERS.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

If Trump wins and it turns out that his pandering to negroes and hispanics worked, it would negate many of the reasons for voting for him. He would probably amnesty the dreamers for starters.

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

That’s one of my worries too. If the eventual analysis of a Trump victory shows that his fawning over blacks and hispanics put him over the top, he might easily draw the conclusion that those populations are the key to success. It will become gospel for the GOP and cucks.

Conversely, any evidence that whites were less enthusiastic for him than in ’16 could mean that Trump is less committed to whites in his second term.

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Vizzini
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

Detroit is busy handing the presidency to Biden right now.

Civnats are idiots.

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

Its almost like it would have been a better idea to listen to Bannon than (((Jarrod)))

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Valley Lurker
3 years ago

The Donald will negotiate an exit at our expense. It will include Javanka and their future interests. We are about to be sold down the river, quite possibly.

El Jefe
El Jefe
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

That’s Jared’s doing.
He wants to reach out to the diverse.
Something he sanely cut off for the Palestinians.

And BTW all the money went to urban outreach. Nothing for rural talk radio, and no newspaper ads in white rural areas either.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

It’s recently occurred to me that blacks don’t actually vote 90% for dems. But instead that the dem machine that controls the vote counting in their localities uses their apathy as a blank check for fraud.

Not that your larger point is wrong.

Johnny
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Kevin Macdonald has an interesting theory of Europeans ruling the World just a century ago and now looking like we cannot survive this. He thinks the Chinese would not have succumb to the propaganda of our enemies but we did. I never know what would have happened but say the same people that took over our institutions tried this same thing in China or India? Would it have worked there??

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Johnny
3 years ago

I don’t think so. China had a very outward looking position in the 1400s. They had fleets of ships that were far larger than the caravels of Spain and Portugal. They dispatched these ships to the east coast of Africa and Arabia. Theoretically, these ships could have reached to west coast of North America.
Then suddenly, the entire fleet was scrapped. Maybe they got a taste of diversity and decided it was not their cup of tea.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

 Maybe they got a taste of diversity and decided it was not their cup of tea.”

I hope that was a pun.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Yes, it was. Incidentally, the British stole tea plants from China to grow them in British-controlled areas like India.
As far as I know, there is no agreed upon explanation why China scrapped its treasure ships. If they hadn’t, they could have easily reached North America decades before Spain.

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

It’s worthy of note that the Chinese had also developed the fore-and-aft rig centuries ahead of the West but never became a true seafaring nation. If memory serves, they did so during the T’ang dynasty, maybe 8th century.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

A new Emperor took power is why. He didn’t want foreign pollution of his power, so he beheaded the eunuch captains and burned the Treasure Fleet.

And, they did reach North America. An ambassador loyal to the previous dynasty smuggled out a Zheng Ho map of Cuba, including latitude tables.

He gave it to the Pope-in-Exile, who gave it to Ferdinand of Spain, who sent out the call for explorers to find this place, answered by Columbus.

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james
james
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

“they could have easily reached North America decades before Spain.”
Would’ve,could’ve,should’ve….didn’t.
-the Loser’s Lament.

El Jefe
El Jefe
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

The explanation is above.
China’s natural state is to look inward (it’s a full time job) – not to expand, conquer, go on adventures.
That’s actually the accepted explanation of why they recalled the fleets in 1400. It’s their nature.

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

Clever. They decided, unlike the British, that they preferred Green tea to Black.

El Jefe
El Jefe
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

China looked inward, and bought the Fleet home. China naturally throughout it’s history looks inward.
They probably have little warlike urges or impulses beyond Taiwan – but again to them Taiwan is a rebel province.
China always looks inward, it’s a full time job. They are only interested in China and their bordering neighbors, mostly to protect China.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

They were conquered by the Mongols.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Johnny
3 years ago

It DID work there. Chinese succumbed to commie propaganda in a big way to the tune of 60 million plus dead before they righted the ship finally. So I’m going to say it can work on any population if the enemy is patient enough for the ‘long march’.
The more relevant question is, can Europeans on all continents take the hard steps to cut the cancer out as the Chinese had to do before it is too late?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

Mao was a nobody, a tool of his (((foreign advisors)))- and now his grandsons are the Red Princes, the hidden masters of the Chinese slave plantation.

El Jefe
El Jefe
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

Absolutely it did.
And before the communists was the taiping rebellion, semi-christian in motives.
20 million dead.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Johnny
3 years ago

It worked for Mao, or do you think he offered capitalism and freedom?

Vizzini
Reply to  Johnny
3 years ago

Speaking of the propaganda of our enemies, see the post I just added down at the end of the thread.

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  Johnny
3 years ago

I’m doubtful that it would work there. The Chinese have never been told to be guilty of the holocaust … that grievance cannot be used to silence them as they see their institutions slowly but methodically overtaken by another ethnic group bent on changing the very fabric of their country … as has been done here over the past decades.

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

“Three hundred thousand Yankees is stiff in Southern dust.
We got three hundred thousand before they conquered us.
They died of Southern fever; of Southern steel and shot;
I wish it was three million instead of what we got.”

El Jefe
El Jefe
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

The Long War when it comes to it will be relatively brief, either way.
And we’re not fighting yet, just becoming aware.
The White response still is to run, in this case these urbanites are buying up land in my rural paradise, which will raise my taxes.
I have no intention of selling.

Walt Wyteman
Walt Wyteman
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

No self pity, but may I be allowed a bit of righteous outrage?

Jesse
Jesse
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

True. Gird your loins. js

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

Well said.

Organize. Locally. Now.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  CAPT S
3 years ago

See those rallies? The rescue efforts in disasters? Who the heck says we can’t organize at a drop of the hat?

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

We certainly can. Let me ask this semi rhetorical entirely theoretical question. Answer if you like but feel free to not answer as OPSEC may matter. What happens if President Trump calls the militia to his aid claiming a coup? He has the legal right to do this and a Constitutional obligation to do so as well. This means outright civil war with half or so of the military basically all the USMC some Fed Leos plus Militia groups from bikers and truckers to actual militia vs Antifa, Deep State and some of the rest of the military and maybe… Read more »

El Jefe
El Jefe
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

I like the MagaTruck rallies.
In 1941 the Germans beat the Russians with inferior numbers and tanks…because they had more trucks. They could logistically support their Panzers, the Russian tanks broke down en masse and were abandoned. The Russian tanks the equal [BT-7] or far superior T-34s or KV-1s to the German tanks.

In 1944 the USSR had far more trucks – thanks to Detroit, and lend lease.

Having said that Alzaebo – this won’t be a ‘rally’. But showing up for work is the first essential part of any job.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

White American heritage. Been around long enough we can stop acting like we owe the Euros anything. Your basic premise still applies, though.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Like Whitney, I woke up disappointed though knowing this was rigged. Surprised myself still wishing for fluffy bunnies and unicorns.
Good….now done with Wah! and back up in the saddle. “We signed up knowing it was a long fight.”
And the Senate didn’t flip. Maybe it should have. Pragmatism either way.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 years ago

For the hate that Our people are about to receive, let us be truly thankful. Eyes will be pryed open and opportunities abound.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

I find it unfathomable that half the country would vote in a dementia sufferer and a communist social climber.

They bought it, they own it. They will choke on it. Nature and fate do not look kindly upon such things.

The madness will now go up a notch or six. As Ol’ Remus used to say, “stay away from crowds”.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

Wait til our co-ethnics get a load of Madam President Harris. She may be a boon to Our movement like no other.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Deus Vult! I like that. Seared into my brain. Always a pleasure, Penitent. God Speed!
PS…Yes, Heels Up is so good for our side. The more the mask slips….
For those renewing moments, pick up a copy of People’s Republic by Schlicter. Life imitates art imitates life.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 years ago

Dutch pondered how half his countrymen could vote for an alzheimer patient and a harlot. Easy: we aren’t a country in any meaningful way other than under force monopoly. And the polyglot hordes are not his countrymen. No need for surprise or shock. Schlicter, Braken, and Pournelle are all good primers for what is to come. Study, rinse and repeat. Deus Vult. I read that phrase when I was a kid and fascinated with knights. God’s Will. Crusader battle cry, yes, but more powerful when whispered to remind oneself to listen, obey, endure, and trust in triumph. I am a… Read more »

Mark Auld
Mark Auld
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

Yes,and we all miss that fine old gentleman.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

Miss Ol’ Remus. Stay Away From Crowds. Dutch friend…back in the saddle with you, laddie. As Basic Husband has said since pre-Cambrian rocks were forming, 50% of all people are morons. Big difference between desire and expectation. Desire pushes us to invent stuff…expectations is delusional horse crap. You’re in the belly of the beast so stay well and watch your back.

Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

I miss Ned.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

They didn’t. There was crazy amounts of voter fraud combined with a lot of actual crazy.

jimmy
jimmy
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Maybe we should hate them back. They seem quite formidable, but what if it is a facade. Just veneer. Stop cooperating every way you can. Pay off your debt , yes it is sacrifice but how much suffering is ahead if we do nothing. These sneaky little sh*ts that work to subvert America are cowards.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  jimmy
3 years ago

“Maybe we should hate them back.” Done and done.

Paying off debt is great advice. Add refusing to cooperate with any but positive elements in your local government is a must.

Raise awareness, support, and comradery with your fellow Whites without sounding bitter. Recruit by example.

jimmy
jimmy
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Thank you for your reply. We don’t need a shooting war we need a spending war. Yea it is called “maff” and I know it is all about white privilege, but it is real. Stop supporting people that want to see you broke or dead or both.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  jimmy
3 years ago

A shooting war is certainly not preferable, but is acceptable.

jimmy
jimmy
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

True, but America is a hard place w/o money. Perhaps they will reap that which they have sown.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

That’s unlikely. The whites are too old and obese. The Left are too weak, stupid and drug addicted.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

There are plenty of younger Whites and given this isn’t a race war anyway all kinds of Off Whites and others who are much like us. Numbers are not an issue. And its not hard to get skinny and fit to fight especially when we have a hardcore pile of trained soldiers. What we lack is a message of hope that isn’t tied to economics. Nothing that ails us is precisely about money, a smaller but stable economy would work better than a bigger bolder less stable one. Stability sure but we mostly have what we need and want. What… Read more »

Pursuvant
Pursuvant
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 years ago

It’s hard to hear the necessary words when you are riding high. It’s when you are at the bottom of the abyss that you opened up to the words of salvation

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 years ago

Senate is problematic. There has always been turncoats such that a solid majority is more like 54 Rep’s, not 51. We shall see.

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B125
B125
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

They don’t care who knows, because they are on the brink of total control. If they win this one election then they can just sweep everything under the rug later.

I’m surprised at their boldness, all they had to do was stall Trump and wait until 2024.

The question is, will anyone do anything. Even normie right seems awake, they’re posting graphs of fraud and stuff. But that isn’t nearly enough.

TimothyS
TimothyS
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I read with regards to sharpigate in Arizona, according to a state senator, as of last night there were no GOP election observers! Quite shocking in it’s own right. Clearly elected parties are not going to be the solution to this long march.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Too many in our thing are trying to conserve a dead system.
This is farcical bordering on Weekend at Bernie’s (or maybe I should say Weekend at Joe’s) or Last Dance with Mary Jane only M.J. is a month old drowned deader.
Once we get past that and realize that just like the Left our goal is power to our desired collective ends, we’ll make some headway.
Don’t be a Conservative, The Bow Tie Crowd is correct Conservative is an attitude. Be an Authoritarian Right Winger who is working to the greater good.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

^This.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

>That.

Member
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

<The other

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

V Thing

Last edited 3 years ago by abprosper
The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I think you’re overestimating normies.

If the MSM tells them Biden won, go grill n’ chill, they will.

Watch the Senate double down on being the Washington Generals.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Most normies will do exactly that, but a sizable minority will have had their faith in “America” shaken, maybe to the core.

We don’t need 100% of normies. If 10% or 20% start to wake up, we’re well on our way.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Faith shaken? I flushed with pride yesterday when I received my “I voted” sticker. Still haven’t put it on yet. Where should I display it. (Don’t be vulgar now)
Can we summon a patriotic Norman Rockwell painting for all to summon their kinship with a long standing American Institution.

Mark Auld
Mark Auld
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Exactly, think of all those folks at Trumps Maga rallies. I doubt they will “go softly into that good night”.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mark Auld
3 years ago

Or gently.

Mark Auld
Mark Auld
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Thank you Sir, I stand corrected.

Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

It’s also important to note that many of the people we think are Magatards actually have a much more sophisticated and nuanced (and radical) view of things than you might suspect. I know this because I’m one. Take a look at my facebook page for instance, http://haha.justkidding.org/. Well, no of course I’m not linking that here but if I did you would see another delusional Magatard. It’s all fake though, a role I play on the intertubes. It’s enough to get the right people sending friend requests and I know some of them are the same.

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

I think you are very right, but that’s just my intuition based on my own projections. I don’t really know any Magatards in real life but i like the hell out of them and I do possess a cap that I never wear, and flew a flag on my truck the last couple days to show solidarity to my imaginary orange man good brothers in arms. I’ve been meaning to go to a rally but keep missing them, but the Magatards are the only everyday people in present society i can look on with tender empathy and warm regard. They… Read more »

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Faith in our government is shaken to the core … from elation last night to mourning this morning … now to anger (the stages, I guess).
How do you mobilize against ALL of the media, a corrupt DOJ & FBI … not to mention other Intelligence agencies? Make any real noise and they might just take you away … hate speech charges. I guess that we’re in the period of Martyrs … that’s how it starts, I suppose.

Mis(ter)Anthrope
Mis(ter)Anthrope
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

I agree. This is a war by the elites against us deplorable whites. Upper middle class whites are too comfortable to come to the defense of their own people. As an example, when I first met a former co-worker in 1996 he was a Pat Buchanan supporter. He was fresh out of law school. We only worked together about 2 years, but remained in contact up until about 9 months ago when I mentioned my politics are now dissident right. He is now a bigwig at a large Oklahoma City law firm.  After I mentioned my current political leanings, he longer responds to… Read more »

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Mis(ter)Anthrope
3 years ago

He thinks you’re an informant. Did you bond over life-changing events. No? The partners beneath him time-wise would probably hire an informant to remove him from their path. I hated BigLaw for this reason — every day it was justified paranoia for me, senior partners pitting us against one another often for sport but always for reduced fee slave work. My wife can do it, I never could.

Mis(ter)Anthrope
Mis(ter)Anthrope
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

Wow, what a miserable existence. I don’t know how a person could go through that and retain his soul. Perhaps those that thrive in that environment never had a soul to begin with.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Mis(ter)Anthrope
3 years ago

I am not G_d but as a mere mortal I can assure the public that my wife has a very very VERY beautiful soul. Unless you are an adversary.

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Correct-a-mundo … and Nadler is really not that fat … that’s the basketball that he had inside of his shirt, a la Meadowlark Lemons.
As we all know, any violence from this side will be dealt with swiftly and mercilessly … look at that kid from Wisconsin … sad.
The Small Hatters concocted this entire charade and everyone is too afraid to call them out. As Voltaire said (paraphrasing) – You know who rules over you because they are the ones that you can’t criticize.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Exactly. It’s openness of the rigging that’s important. Joe Normie needs a big slap in the face, and he’s getting it now.

Trump is going to lose. Half the country will not accept the results, though, unlike the Left, they won’t riot. But they will have lost faith in elections, and what is America if not a democracy.

Trump really has turned out to be a historic figure. His failure to be re-elected may very well be a turning point in this country.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

They couldn’t wait just 4 more years. Trump is the last white male President, and very likely the last “R” president before US becomes like Mexico’s PRI party that held total power for 70+ years.

This out and out rigging of the election isn’t primarily for Joe six pack voter.

No, this is a very public message to those who work in government that this is your last chance to pay homage to the uniparty.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

Yeah, there will be serious career repercussions for any government official or politician who didn’t actively fight against Trump, much less worked with him.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

I’m thinking if the steal was going to be successful it would already be done. IMO Trump prevails or they push until it comes to war.

Praying for cooler heads to prevail.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

If the “deep state” really wanted to get rid of Trump, it could have engineered a stock market meltdown.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

Except the deep state might have investments in the stock market. Maybe it’s easier to harvest ballots.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

Exactly. The Deep State uses to stock market to line their pockets. Transferring bags of cash back and forth is too 1900’s

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c matt
c matt
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

If they are really using the elections to line their pockets through the stock market, then sowing confusion to get prices to drop (so they can buy low) then letting Trump win in the end a month form now to rally the market (so they can sell high) would make most sense.
But I saw that markets actually rose. So it does not make sense.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

They play the options market, that’s why there’s little obvious “insider trading” stock trading.

They buy and sell puts, profiting most on the downward. Their calls and hidden ‘private investor group’ buys are at the bottom, profiting from steep discount.

Plus, Cayman Island and special nephew cutouts. Joe’s brother Jim actually took possession of the moola, so Joe stayed ‘clean’.

“sowing confusion to get prices to drop (so they can buy low)”- good catch. The rise was them covering their short positions and cashing out. The other side of the trade was waiting and made their bones too, win-win.

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RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

They could have. But that would have hurt the 1%.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

They use crashes to consolidate power. From ‘29 to ‘07 to ‘20.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Perfectly said, Paintersforms.

They used him to resuscitate and lift their assets. They took a pinch of those outsize profits to move him out as soon as they thought he might throw a little sand in their gears.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Trump’s only hope is to hold onto PA, NC and Georgia, and then to somehow win Nevada. Winning Nevada would prevent Cadaver Joe from reaching 270 votes. What happens then, I have no idea. But I’m pretty sure Trump will engage in lawfare to overturn the results. And if that doesn’t work, he may urge those who voted for him to create havoc. I, for one, am ready, willing and able.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

I’m told it’s possible AZ flips back. No idea if that’s pollyanna. This thing isn’t settled by any means. Unfortunately it’s in the lawyers’ and politicians’ hands now.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Trump will have to do something more than bitch and moan in his Twitter feed and file pointless lawsuits in hostile jurisdictions. If that’s all he’s willing to do then he probably deserves to have it stolen from him.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

I think President Trump may pull a win at the last moment but if not it will be litigated. He is if nothing else a fighter.
Given war is inevitable anyway maybe its the best thing for all of us.
After the horror and chaos are over we can let the nation collapse into homogeneous polities.
You see even if we had the demography of 1960, the US would still be too diverse to exist without an overwhelming reason to do so and we don’t have that.

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KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

I’m just wondering if the Feds could declare some sort of Federal election tampering and seize all of the ballots and somehow take it out of the hands of the States and their complicit DAs.
Also, I read on Gab where Wisconsin had more votes cast than the number of people registered to vote!

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  KeepTheChange
3 years ago

A great many Feds are Deep State and could not be trusted with such a task. There are no easy ways out even a Trump win at the supreme Court will result in riots. Ultimately this will drag on and on for an interminable amount of time till someone concedes. Bush v Gore with extra risk and tension. There is as I noted a reasonable possiblity of civil war as well and of a Canadian invasion as Trudeau claims he’ll step in if Trump won’t step down. I’m OK with that. We could use the land and frankly its stupid… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
3 years ago

A Canadian invasion! I don’t want to offend Canadians but he must want to be annexed talking like that.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Its mostly the weed talking I doubt anything will come of it. Now the Canadian army is pretty good but I doubt they’d be a major threat and they probably wouldn’t obey such a stupid order. Canadian conscripts would fare very poorly. And yes it would probably end up with annexation and at best everything Trudeau owned pounded into rubble if the man wasn’t executed by the military. Also there are a lot of well armed Canadians he wants to disarm who might be willing to help us out. We might not have to directly annex them at all and… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  KeepTheChange
3 years ago

I’m not sure the feds can do much. Pretty sure the states are in control of the elections. Bush v. Gore being the one big exception I can think of. That said, they’re openly stealing it. I saw a a graph of votes from WI or MI where the line went straight up for Biden early in the morning. Someone pointed out they stopped counting to figure out how many ballots they needed. On the bright side on the way out the door I overheard 2 women from the office getting really upset over votes appearing out of nowhere. I… Read more »

Normie
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Its over. Biden won.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Simply throwing up 140k votes at midnight for Biden in Michigan and 100k more in Wisconsin, to “close up the gaps”, that was pretty cheeky. It’s as if they are daring anyone to do something about it.

Actually, they get a twofer. They flip things their way, and they destroy yet another western institution, the ballot box.

Reality bites, Brothers and Sisters. At least we, around here, are more likely to see it and take it for what it is, compared to most. The future will be different from the past, that’s for sure…

Andy Texan
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

Let’s be hopeful. The supremes will invalidate the 140k and 100k fraud votes and give Wisconsin and Michigan to Trump along with Penn and Arizona. They can do it if motivated by fair play instead of garden parties in DC.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Andy Texan
3 years ago

Wouldn’t bet on it. That sort of exercise of raw power against the ultimately ascendant power of team D would be punished severely.

Court packing? Untraceable 3 letter agencies leaking things about justices and their loved ones? Even impeachment of sitting judges?

The Supreme Court only makes dramatic decisions in one direction. Cthulhu only swims left.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

You had better hope that isn’t true because your options are war to the knife and hilt or slavery. Its not that people on our side can’t be brave, they can they simply don’t want to since none of them see a light at the end of the tunnel if we win. I do understand this. The consequences are horrific, essentially an end to modernity itself m decades of war , ethnic and political cleansing and impoverishment for what it essentially economic nationalism , deportation and marriage reform. We have to have some sense of heart or baring that a… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

And that is where the problem lies. If the half of the population that voted for Trump just goes away, it will be four years of amnesty, opening of the borders, crushing of the fund raising apparatus of any potential opponent through the alphabet soup agencies. In short, there will be no way to surmount any political opposition to our enemies. But wait, there’s more! Guess who’s putting together an exploratory committee for 2024? Yes, that’s right! It’s that doofy-looking, worthless cuck Jeb!

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Steve
3 years ago

Romney will be his VP

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Steve
3 years ago

The amnesty already happened in the spending bill that prevented the deportation of anyone with a minor in their household.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

Trump’s going to amnesty the Dreamers, especially if it turns out his hispandering had any effect.

B125
B125
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Trump already surpassed his 2016 vote totals in PA. Biden would need 2008 Obama levels of turnout to beat him now. This obviously didn’t happen.

The election will be stolen, and I’d say it’s only 50/50 that the court sides with trump anyways. The question is: what will we or anybody else do about it?

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

First,usual disclaimer about not doing stupid illegal things. To answer your question, that is up to you. Not me, not the other guy, You and you alone. Waiting on other people to decide to act means you just wait . Nothing more. The most important thing you can do, right now, quite legal and undetectable is to change your mindset from a Conservative preserve the USA type to a power hungry, outright nasty piece of work. if you can’t do that than well go in peace. Wear your mask, get your shots and live your life. Its not brave but… Read more »

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Exactly, 2016 was an anomaly … wasn’t supposed to happen. At that point, the “guys” started the plan to keep it from happening again.
America has been conquered, or is in the process of being conquered, by the 5th Column inside our ranks.
They don’t care if real democracy crumbles .. they can maintain some veneer of democracy, but they will be telling us what you can do and what we can say.
Poland or Hungary is sounding better all of the time.

greyenlightenment
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

But weren’t the conditions/terms of the delayed counting stipulated beforehand? Trump was right to be skeptical but regrettably he agreed to it. Too bad he did not try to stop it and demand that the votes all be counted at the same night. This should have gone to the supreme court. and it is possible the court would have ruled that all the ballots must be counted at once.

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Member
Reply to  greyenlightenment
3 years ago

I think that’s what Trump was getting at last night with his remarks about needing to stop the voting (not counting). We’ll see quite soon if his legal team is going to get this thing moved to the SC quickly.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

“Normal patriotic white people need to come away from this thinking the election was stolen and the ruling class is beyond reform…” —————————————- To what end, though? Not trying to be a dink here, but… I come from a family of shitlibs. These fucks don’t back down. Please forgive my language but – there is nowhere to compromise with them. Their feelings are their reality, and fairness and honesty are net liabilities. I suppose the next step is “an eye for an eye” until that gets boring – then all out warfare. I’d really like to skip the intermediaries and… Read more »

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Have hope. Other events will come to pass and affect reality. The grand solar minimum advances. This last year brought big rain and a number of midwest states were late or didn’t get the corn crop in. When the great weather changes, people get up and move into other peoples’ living room. The globalists already had their coup and the great reset is rolling out. Get your vaccine or get your bank account frozen. Don’t count on food and sundries to always be in abundance. Food is used as a Commie weapon. Other factors will play out and push, i.e.… Read more »

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Member
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 years ago

Aren’t you forgetting the Cascadia subduction fault? That’s my favorite. Maybe it’s just because of my hatred of Portlanders and knowledge that many of the dumb hipsters moved into old unreinforced brick buildings. They prefer those because they’re “quaint” or “ironic” or some such shit.

Edited to fix my run-on sentences.

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Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

How could I forget! Way visual…..loved studying this. As the Juan de Fuca subducting plate moves below the North American plate…..Kapow and melt!

Member
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 years ago

It’s going to be Yuuge too, magnitude 9.0 at minimum. The Columbia and Willamette rivers will turn red with hipster juice. ‘Murrica!

Mark Auld
Mark Auld
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 years ago

Don’t forget the pending pole reversal.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Mark Auld
3 years ago

And as the magnetic fields weaken, the Evil cosmic rays blast in waves turning us into……blue haired screaming Karens who have no taste for good wine. Gobbling green jello mixed with cool whip and chopped snickers bars. And hairy wriggling moles exude on their faces. See….there is something to this pole reversal stuff!

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CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Normies need to understand that the election was stolen and the polls rigged—in order to keep them from using the excuse, “we’ll get them in the next election”. Indeed, such was the discussion here on the airwaves with one of the major local radio hosts and the former chairman of the Republican Party in AZ. Most all discussion was how to “rebuild” the party and find and mentor new candidates for office. Same thing we hear every election cycle. Wash, rinse, repeat—ad nauseam. In short, a non-recognition of the inability to repair a broken system using said same broken system—as… Read more »

El Jefe
El Jefe
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

This is very true.
Trump has exposed our enemies to all like none other.
Ultimately this will be his greatest legacy.
For the Deep State, a government of conspiracy and fraud to show it’s hands so openly so often may ultimately prove their Doom.

Mo'ray Washington
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

…and beyond pardon.

Major Blackpill (ret.)
Major Blackpill (ret.)
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

No, it will be over sooner than you think. Fox has just called Michigan for Biden. It’s all but over now. Trump lost. The democrats will control the House while the GOP will be lucky to retain the barest of majorities in the Senate. It’s been a total disaster for the right. Sure, Biden didn’t win in a landslide, but that doesn’t matter in this system. They’ll control basically everything now, so you can expect things to get worse — censorship, FBI abuse, terrible economic policies, media harassment. What we’ve learned from this election: The Blackpillers were right the whole… Read more »

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Major Blackpill (ret.)
3 years ago

Blackpillers are one of the parties responsible for this, in some ways one of the most culpable. Normies may not realize there is a war on, shitlibs are actually fighting in it, blackpillers KNOW there’s an existential struggle going on… and their response is not just to run away but to STAY on the front running here and there trying to convince OTHERS to desert WITH THEM. Civilized armies would deal with this as a mutiny and it merited an even harsher reprisal than garden variety desertion (which was subject to summary execution). So slink away and stop congratulating yourself… Read more »

Beetle McTurk
Beetle McTurk
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

What you call ‘blackpillers’ I call ‘people who do not comfort themselves with childish delusions’. People like you are all the same–you cannot separate pointing out the dangers and follies of unworkable quasi-religious political fairy tales from actively trying to subvert the glorious Sky Castles you build in your own heads. The Right lost this election because it refused to accept the reality of the situation that DJT’s actions revealed. Like women and children, you now blame daddy because he kept telling you that Santa Claus isn’t real. Keep attacking the people who pointed out that if it waddles, quacks,… Read more »

Brother John
Member
3 years ago

The sheer number of the foreign born alone in California is all the evidence you need that governments at every level in the USA have been absolutely begging for abolition for decades.

The fact that the attorney general in Pennsylvania all but admitted he’s going to steal the result is another.

Corn
Corn
Reply to  Brother John
3 years ago

The PA Attorney-General should have that tweet printed off and shoved down his throat.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Brother John
3 years ago

The PA Attorney General is an observant Conservative Jew. The bible sez that Jews are God’s chosen people.

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

The OT says that. The NT says not.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
3 years ago

My boss is a jewish carpenter.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
3 years ago

Quite the opposite. Funny how that gets overlooked.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
3 years ago

Based Roosh V, notice me senpai!

Thoughts on the armenian situation?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

No surprise, then, that PA’s Secretary of Health is an ugly man in a dress.

Some Guy
Some Guy
3 years ago

Is this going to be the moment where white people finally stand up for themselves? It’s now or never. If Democrats succeed in stealing the election, their first steps are going to make sure it can’t be done to them. So lots of executive orders to grant all but amnesty, “anti-voter suppression” measures that make voting a joke, and harsh internet crackdowns to make sure nobody can question it. If the Democrats succeed in stealing the election and boomercons just mutter, grumble, and go back to consooming and grilling, America isn’t worth saving at this point and we’re going to… Read more »

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sentry
sentry
Reply to  Some Guy
3 years ago

“Is this going to be the moment where white people finally stand up for themselves?”
The answer is most likely no, that’s why it is/was important for trump to win.
I don’t think white nationalists realize how docile most white people have become.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Normie whites are basically sheep.

Even the ones out at the riots pretty much let the vibrants and fellow whites lead them around by the nose.

Brother John
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Nonsense.

The people you are talking about are the ones with things to lose.

The diverse, the people in charge, what they have to lose they do not have to risk.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Brother John
3 years ago

Yes, they have things to lose in ‘the battle’. Material comfort, ‘stuff’, social standing, etc. What they don’t realize is, they are also losing the war, by avoiding the battle. So all those things they think they are ‘keeping’ they are going to lose anyway as they are stripped of all rights & disenfranchised. This is not the first time in history this has happened BTW. Attempting to ‘sit it out’ because you fear losing all your ‘stuff’ has a lot of historical precedent and it always ends the same. You lose it anyways. But your average person has zero… Read more »

Brother John
Member
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

I’m not going to disagree with any of that. But the idea that so many are “sheep“ strikes me as… Well, childish. As in, big words from the basement. The people we are talking about have children and houses and employers. they are not district attorneys who can ramp up the anarchic-tyranny at will. They are not “journalists,“ people with the morals of child molesters, who can say and do anything they damn please anytime they want. They are not brainless college students, who carry-on as though they will be forever insulated from their own stupidity. The people who threaten… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Brother John
3 years ago

They will simply curl inward and take up defensive positions.

Kind of like… wait for it…

….wait…

….sheep.

Brother John
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Clever, but I remind you we are all posting pseudonymously.

james
james
Reply to  Brother John
3 years ago

That doesn’t refute his point.

Brother John
Member
Reply to  james
3 years ago

Well…it does, actually. Nobody posting pseudonymously should burn too many calories about people being reticent to risk their children and livelihoods in the Meat Space.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

This is a rhetorical non advocational , question so please do not answer it. Its cheap and easy to complain about others not doing stuff but If this goes wrong, will YOU hunt? If you won’t, stop whining when others won’t. As for me? I can answer it. I’m not in a position where I need to do illegal things and still have free speech to a solid degree. My role for now is to remind you slugs to build a G-Damned ideology before even thinking about doing stupid /illegal things. Have you ducks in a row, your friends close,… Read more »

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

“What they don’t realize is, they are also losing the war, by avoiding the battle. So all those things they think they are ‘keeping’ they are going to lose anyway as they are stripped of all rights & disenfranchised.” The cost benefit analysis is really simple. If you fight now, you lose your stuff now. If you don’t fight now, there’s a slight chance to keep it. Obviously it’s better to not fight now. Alternatively, if fighting is inevitable and you lose your stuff once the fight begins, the choice becomes, do you want to stop enjoying what you have… Read more »

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

[deleted on reflection for self indulgent black pilling]

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TomA
TomA
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

The awakening won’t occur until real pain becomes a reality as opposed to anxious anticipation. Yes, we have become soft as a result of a half-century of affluence, but that can change fast when the ancient animal within is triggered. There are habits buried in our DNA that can, and will, re-emerge.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

I hope the best for you personally, but america is gone, every single american institution belongs to the enemy, the young gens are mostly non-white, a good portion of the white youth is trash.
Historically when this has happened the native population would move and settle someplace else, I said this on a previous article, but white people are not tied to dirt, find a latino country and move there, become a nomad like the israelites.

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Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

I think this logic is inevitable but even out here on the DR where we traffic in unpleasant truth… most people can’t bring themselves to accept it. Yet.

People will gnash their teeth, but it will be easier the sooner they come around. At some point it will simply be too late.

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Montefrío
Member
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

I live in South America, am bilingual, well-travelled and will presume to tell anyone who cares to hear that there is no such thing as a “latino”. The MesoAmericans who are usually thought of as “latinos” have less in common with, say, Argentines than, say, a Gujarati with a Madrasi. A common language is not enough to define a very diverse group of folks sharing large bodies of land. I did as you suggested 22 years ago and am now very much tied to my own three acres of dirt however. A caveat: moving south of the Río Grande, no… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Montefrío
3 years ago

I was wondering how you were doing, Montefrio! Welcome, many blessings to your grandchildren I hope. Please keep us informed.

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Montefrío
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

Thank you! Yes, we’re all well and the grandchildren have thrived in this “remote schooling” year. Hope the same is true for you and yours!

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

I don’t know how many of you have played Fallout New Vegas but you need to be more like this guy, Legate Lanius , the Monster of the East since imposing the morals of say 1960 would be regarded about the same as imposing slavery via the Legion Slight paraphrase here Perhaps, in time, we will be granted the honor of conquering the land known as California. But for now, we rest. Than Know that your efforts are appreciated and will not go unrewarded. But we can speak of that later. For now, come, we must see to the burning… Read more »

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  abprosper
3 years ago

The only thing I recall about the Legion is spraying and praying the HQ with a minigun and the annoying assassin patrols.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

If you can stand YouTube , there are plenty of Fallout New Vegas clips of the Legate who is a scary scary dude. And generally the assassin patrols were great , once you get to a decent level, they becomes as a buddy of mine out it “free equipment delivery guys” Glass the patrol walk or fast travel to the nearest vendor (there are two close typically) dump the loot, buy more ammo and up a lot of ammo and caps. At low levels though? Them and the NCR patrols are nasty. Anyway off FNV , the Legate is unyielding,… Read more »

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Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Is it docility or that the sane Whites understand we are the only ones keeping this severely listing country afloat. The only ones who can keep good water flowing into your home and bad water treated to prevent actual plagues. The only ones who can grow enough food and manage the complicated distribution systems to keep the nation well fed. The only ones who can safely design and build bridges and other infrastructure. We understand that if we get up to half the antics of the left we get dumped into camps or outright shot where we stand all that… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Peabody
3 years ago

lots of eastern europeans left their countries when commies took over, no one blames them.
Good whites can eat popcorns and relax from a far away place, they can return after the american state crumbles, if they wish to do so.
White americans are in no shape to fight such a high level tyranical apparatus. White life is more important than dirt, the american state will fall on its own, no reason for good whites to suffer.
Lot was unable to save Sodom & Gomorrah, he took his family and LEFT.

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Drew
Drew
Reply to  Peabody
3 years ago

If self destruction is the inevitable result of democrat rule, than what do whites need to do besides clear the proverbial blast radius?

theRussians
theRussians
Member
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

As long as my cave has nice curtains… This is fine.
“The System” is unrecognizable as any system at all, the black-pill has lost its luster.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  theRussians
3 years ago

From Helena Handbasket, “If women ran things, we’d still be living in caves… but they’d have really nice curtains!”

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Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

Alzae….did you ever read Steinbeck’s Cannery Row, specifically the story of Mr. and Mrs. Malloy, during the 1930s, living in a vacant lot in a discarded boiler from the Hediondo Cannery. Great story on the forever eyerolling space alien differences between men and women. And a woman’s need for curtains. And order from chaos.
Now women hate curtains and create chaos.

Kentucky Headhunter
Kentucky Headhunter
Reply to  Some Guy
3 years ago

“Is this going to be the moment where white people finally stand up for themselves?”

You’re making a (common) mistake in thinking that “white people” are a single unified entity.

Young whites of both genders are the product of the public schools communist education/propaganda machine and are therefore stupid beyond belief. Frankly, private schools are only negligibly better at this point.

White women are still women, and thus completely unreliable.

Boomers, are, well, Boomers…

I would guess neo-cucks make up somewhere around a third or more of middle-aged white men. 

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Some Guy
3 years ago

The Dems now have a lock on the presidency – and, eventually, the Supreme Court. It’s there country now.

Heritage Whites are going to learn what it’s like to live as a despised minority. How many will push back is hard to say, but the DR will start to find more friendly faces as time goes on.

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Some Guy
3 years ago

It’s hard not to think that, but “the insouciant American people,” as Paul Craig Roberts calls them/us, are ALWAYS the last to know ANYTHING. Once it is made glaringly obvious to them what is happening–and what is GOING to happen–then, and only then, will they awaken. But that time has not yet come.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
3 years ago

This is completely the result I expected. From a dissident perspective, it is the best result possible. Even the thickest, fattest, burger-grilling BoomerCon is watching his vote being stolen. It is very important to delegitimize the United States’ existing government before it can be dismantled or, if it is even possible, reformed. We are about to have tens of millions of NormieCons radicalized to an extent unprecedented in American history. I cannot emphasize what a good thing this is. My guess about the best-selling gift this Christmas? DVD sets of the televised reporting last night and the events about to… Read more »

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Might’ve shifted the Overton Window some, but that’s about it. Your millions of radicalized Americans will stay in such a state so long until the next excuse to hunch over their smart phone avails itself. So about five minutes, tops.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

Disagree. There are millions radicalized now. How they react will depend on the degree of oppression. My guess is “Biden” backs off a bit because of the rage, and makes symbolic arrests of “white supremacists.” Still, an economic downturn or loss in war, both likely, and the country comes apart at the seams. Dissidents are in a far better position today than yesterday.

The United States is a dead empire walking now.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

So, pray for war with China?

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Yes, but they need guidance in how to properly focus their rage and motivation. Do not join a militia, there will always be a Fed turd in the punch bowl. Don’t make it easy for them to target you. The elites want the coming battles to be pleb-on-pleb, patriots vs LEOs; a decimation among the peons. Focus/Focus/Focus. The real disease is actually few in number and a very manageable problem. And technology is your friend and a great equalizer.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Fully agree. People need to be smart. Violence is something to be studiously avoided. The State has delegitimized itself. Help that along and make it continue to do so. You are right. Their bench is shallow and they are a manageable problem. My guess is the Deep State conducts a false flag terrorist attack in a Red area and blames Muslims, or, more likely, a false flag terrorist attack in a Blue area and blame “white supremacists.” Everyone will know the terror emanated from D.C., regardless of which approach they take. We now have a D.C. government and a local… Read more »

Drew
Drew
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Yes. Learn from Afghanistan as to how to bleed an empire dry. There’s no need for organized resistance. In fact, disorganized resistance is more effective at taking the federal government down. I’d recommend looking up how to make caltrops and molotov cocktails. Look for ways to reduce your taxable income and taxable economic activity. Sell all federal bonds. Move away from urban population centers, and make sure that you have a wood burning stove. Sand is better than thermite when it comes to ruining the gears of the federal government, especially if everyone does autonomously.

Lanky
Lanky
3 years ago

I really thought that a middle finger would stab a hole through the sheet of corruption; guess that’s on me. Btw, what’s going on in MI is just jaw-dropping.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  Lanky
3 years ago

As soon as those fine folks in Philly got tired of counting votes and called it quits for the evening went to manufacture more votes last night the writing was on the wall. All that remains to be seen is if Trump is just Gore with orange hair or somebody who was ever worth supporting.

Member
Reply to  Peabody
3 years ago

I agree. We will soon if Trump’s balls are as big as his bluster. I actually think they are. His gigantic ego and obsession with “winning”, which have gotten him into trouble so often, will also drive him to fight the theft tooth and nail.

Epaminondas
Member
3 years ago

The wicked elites are about to set cities aflame by their reckless actions. It is inconceivable that Trump or Biden will graciously concede. We now know where this is headed. Eventually, the Supremes will decide in Trump’s favor. That’s when the dry brush of political corruption will explode. I am so happy I abandoned big urban areas 20 years ago.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

I find Mexican elections to be interesting. You have to present an ID card with your thumbprint on it….in Mexico. Great immigration laws too. This clusterfuk was made in the USA.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

better move to mexico, you can blend in with the whites there and they reject africans.

Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

I’ve spent way too much reading and learning about all this shit over the last few months so I’m going to go contrary to all the blackpilling here a bit. I actually don’t think Biden will get away with it in the end. Trump’s people have known they would try this. Trump probably had that “I know we won” speech prepared because he knew Creepy Joe would be giving a speech to set up the narrative of “count every vote – including the fake ones”. Trump is a bull-headed egomaniac who will not calmly allow himself to be bested by… Read more »

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

You may be right. The democrats’ efforts seem so blatant. I’ve noticed that there has been (as of yet) no verbal pushback by the democrats and their shills in the media that this is just a conspiracy theory.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
3 years ago

All too true, Z.

And, if they win this one… we will never win another one either. When one side decides the rules don’t matter anymore, and get away with it… it’s time to go to diplomacy by other means.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
3 years ago

Worse case scenario, the timeline to trying times is now shorter. So be it. Deus Vult. Heart hardened.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

No matter the outcome, the presidency is now a poisoned chalice. Globo won that battle already. Whatever happens from here in the presidential battle is irrelevant to us now.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

correct, no civic nationalist will ever get near the white house, while white nationalists won’t even be allowed to speak without getting banned from society.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

True, but my point is that the presidency itself has been destroyed by this process, and whoever holds the position will be tied in knots by all the factions that refuse to acknowledge, coordinate, or comply with the mandates and directives of the President, no matter who fills the seat. This is part of the Color Revolution playbook, which has just been achieved, no matter how things play out from here.

Some Guy
Some Guy
3 years ago

What a shock that in the last couple hours, Wisconsin and Michigan have turned blue. I knew the election was going to be a farce but I’m still beyond irritated with it being carried out.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Some Guy
3 years ago

I see where the absentee ballots in PA are going for Biden by a wide margin. Funny how that works, isn’t it?

Member
Reply to  Some Guy
3 years ago

I for one am shocked, shocked! to discover that vote fraud is going on here!

Carl B.
Carl B.
3 years ago

The American mastodon, trapped in the tar pits, expired some time ago. The question now is how long before the vultures feeding on the carcass run out of rotted meat.

Someone
Someone
3 years ago

Just remember, almost half the country voted for a candidate that was endorsed by the American Communist Party, wants to give free stuff and citizenship to those who are not here legally, wants to destroy the petroleum/petrochemical industry, raise taxes on gasoline/diesel, raise federal and business income taxes, impose more destructive regulations. And this is the short list.

What is sad the number who allegedly have a university education voting for these policies, so it’s hard for me to think of these people as folks I want to be around on a daily basis. 

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Someone
3 years ago

The people you mention do not, in fact, have “education.” What they do have is schooling, which is not at all the same thing.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Someone
3 years ago

And they’re fine with the stealing the election. It’s good for the country, you know.

Drake
Drake
3 years ago

The chaos in PA is absolutely intentional. A planned coup that’s taking place right in front of us.

Brother John
Member
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

We in Pennsylvania were forced to watch as a deranged man in a dress lectured us about “science“ all year. Pennsylvania has a governor who does not know what his job is, doesn’t care, and doesn’t care that you know.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Next will come prosecution of Trump and his few loyalists for dissent. We live in an authoritarian dystopia, in fact one so broad and on the nose it would be scarcely believable as fiction.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

Perhaps Trump should have paid more attention to the CIA and the DoJ than moving the embassy to Jerusalem and outlawing anti-semitism.
I hope Jared is the first in the dock at the show trials.

greyenlightenment
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

i doubt it. the left is happy enough that he is gone

Arcadian
Arcadian
3 years ago

Some in my family were mildly surprised at my lack of focus on “election night.” Despite me telling them all along there would be no “winner” on 3 November 2020. I did not consume one minute of TV. Why expose myself willingly to insurance scam ads, new pharma “medicines” I never heard of and the like. Plus, I already own a lot of pillows. The Democrats have been honing their art of stealing elections for generations. The biographer Robert Caro is on record, video record, as anti-Trump. In a wimpy, nerdy way, but a position nonetheless. However, he is also… Read more »

Kentucky Headhunter
Kentucky Headhunter
Reply to  Arcadian
3 years ago

Read those books when they came out.

My wife claimed to be related to LBJ in some manner.

My response, “You know he was a real asshole, right?”

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Arcadian
3 years ago

You can be certain every mid to high level cretin in government has read “The Power Broker” (by R. Caro) about Robert Moses. It’s like their bible. Robert who?

Robert Moses was/is a god to central planners. He basically built modern New York, and was never once elected to office. Fascinating story, but just like Caro’s LBJ books, it gets into the essence of what TRUE power is when wielded by our men with no chests overlords.

Arcadian
Arcadian
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

Ah, yes, the Moses book. I own and read that one too but stayed on the topic of stealing elections. The State Park named after old Robert is a notorious homosexual haunt, BTW. Look it up. Proof that God has a sense of humor? New York baseball fans surely don’t have fond memories of Moses. And the point that geeky biographer Caro seems so put off by Donald Trump’s brash style, but never seemed put out by the bureaucrat/dictator Moses any more than the thought of LBJ’s breath as he cornered politicians as he “button holed” one of them… or… Read more »

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Arcadian
3 years ago

God has a sense of humor? Let us say, rather, a sense of the ridiculous. Ridiculous is far more common than funny. Just look around.

Arcadian
Arcadian
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
3 years ago

“Ridiculous is far more common than funny.”

Clearly.

Oh, well shit. Guess you don’t find Benny Hill funny, er, ridiculous.

Props for not spelling it “rediculous”.

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Arcadian
3 years ago

yet he cannot seem to abide by Trump’s “new yorkness”, you know, mean tweets. And that is what sums up most whites who don’t like him, at least. I had forgotten, but in days lately innocuously asking those in my life what was wrong with Trump, what had he done that was so horrific, it basically boiled down to mean tweets. It always amazes me how soft people are. But then again it took me sometime to bust out of that mold as well, being raised in the same middle class enclave, although I was never as far gone as… Read more »

Arcadian
Arcadian
Reply to  Valley Lurker
3 years ago

At least you busted out of the wet paper bag of feelz. Looking back, I owe a massive debt of gratitude to every man I worked for, from a young age not to go all ok boomhauer and attract trolls BUT … to every one of them that busted my ass. For leaving grease in the ‘a’ of a Craftsman wrench. Fucking something up on a job site when the boss came by. It no longer amazes me how many of the ‘men’ I come across that basically process along the emotional lines of a teenage girl. Affluent men, ‘successful’… Read more »

Johnny
3 years ago

Zman didn’t you say the best result was Biden wins in what looks like a rigged election to awaken millions of Americans? Right now I would say it is looking exactly like that is happening.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Johnny
3 years ago

Sometimes, you hate being right.

Johnny Hooker
Johnny Hooker
3 years ago

Fourth Turnings are a beyotch !

Whiskey
Whiskey
3 years ago

Biden as President will lock the US down for a year. Will ban fracking and tax gas heavily so it’s unaffordable. Same with meat.
I do not want to eat beans and bugs for the rest of my life. Nor do I want a White tax. I like being employed and driving my car.
Warren Zevon was right. Send lawyers guns and money.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Whiskey
3 years ago

I think the fracking ban was a sop to the left. The permanent US foreign policy establishment is depending on natural gas exports to wean countries away from energy dependence on Russia and to kill Russian export earnings. Reagan used a similar technique in the 1980s with oil exports from the friendly Gulf states (to the point where Gulf overproduction caused a depression in the US oil industry). Plus, renewables don’t work without natural gas. The other factor is that most of the fracking companies were unprofitable and relied heavily on easy credit from the financial sector (ie. the fed).… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

Agree, but the longer term is that China gets to use all the coal, oil, and nuclear electricity it wants to surpass us.

How do you big-scale anything? Big, lovely machines, that use fuel.

As for Whiskey’s dilemna, well, there will be juicy rewards for citizens loyal to Panem.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

Agree, but the longer term is that China gets to use all the coal, oil, and nuclear electricity it wants to surpass us.

Well, if the US grid is unstable and the electricity is too expensive we simply must move all our remaining production to a stable grid with cheap electricity….

….like China…

c matt
c matt
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

The problem with eliminating fossil fuels is that it destroys the basis for the petro-dollar, and therefore US D reserve currency status, and ergo our supremacy. Maybe that is the plan?

Alfred Doolittle The Leftist Whisperer
Alfred Doolittle The Leftist Whisperer
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

What problem is there. There are at least a million original thinking white creatives that fell through the cracks of our materialistic capitalist society, losers in other words, that could easily invent our way into a new technological reality that isn’t a net detriment to the white tribe, that simply need resources and support, to reinvigorate American capitalism towards non myopic technologies. By not shitting on our warrior class, we will reinforce our creative hegemony and punish intellectual property theft. Dissident philanthropists need to create IQ based schools to harvest these dormant white losers.

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JR Wirth
JR Wirth
3 years ago

My Civ-Nat boomer family members are beside themselves. I’m actually afraid they’re going to give themselves heart attacks. Handing out red pills like candy. But only gentle small ones this week. They’ve had a hard night.

B125
B125
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

WHATS GOING ON???

well, it’s a long story. You got a minute?

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Lol!. “Remember in ’92 when I was waving around that Pat Buchanan article and wanted you to read it, but you were too busy?”

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

My CivNat father is ready to hoist the black flag.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Well, out of bad can come good.

Tom P.
Tom P.
3 years ago

The big news is the collapse in Trump support among white men: Trump enjoyed a 31 point advantage in 2016, but this fell to only 18 points in 2020 and may keep falling as the battleground states wrap up counting. Trump did better than 2016 with every other demographic except white men. And honestly, bravo to white men for not blindly throwing their support to someone who never reciprocated. Despite the voter fraud—for which Trump had plenty of time to prepare since seeing it unfold in the 2018 midterms—this is all on Trump. His dithering on the riots kept Minnesota… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Tom P.
3 years ago

i’ve heard the same, though i can’t figure out if it was trump’s actions that made white men not support him or the riots scaring them.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Maybe they didn’t want to see one more rapper going into the White House. It goes on and on. Whether Trump wins or loses he was taking advantage of the good faith of white guys just as the DNC puts blacks in its pockets. Only white guys take notice.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

it’s true that trump looks pathetic when he panders to lil pimp or lil pump or whoever his rapper supporters are.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

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greyenlightenment
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

dude you’re black pilling. man. trust the plan. oh wait, I guess the plan is trump leaves. oh well.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

The riots were in heavily democrat urban shitholes. I doubt there were many white men who were realistically potential Trump voters there. I think the Trump pandering to non-whites was blatant enough to discourage white men from voting for him. Did Biden’s percentage of white men increase?

game's up
game's up
Reply to  Tom P.
3 years ago

It will be interesting to see if Trump takes this to the courts. I have a feeling his twitter bluster is just that, and he will go more or less quietly by the end of the week. And there will be no right-wing rioting—there never has been; even Charlottesville was completely the fault of the left. There might be a few halfhearted rallies by hardcore Trump supporters, but for the most part the right will accept it quietly after a few days of moaning on social media. Then we’ll find out if the Harris era will be anti-White accelerationism, or… Read more »

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  game's up
3 years ago

Maybe Trump fulfilled his duty to repay all the (((creditors))) who bailed him out. Having the election stolen from him would allow him to leave the field with a shred of dignity.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  game's up
3 years ago

Go blow your beretta if the future is so unwinnable. Despair is a sin, and you are a profligate sinner.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Tom P.
3 years ago

Fact check: True. No “Platinum Plan” with spinning rims for the white man. No! But who buys the platinum for the platinum plan? The lineman and the plumber getting up at 3am.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Yeah, such pandering so close to the election might very well have turned off any number of White males struggling to make ends meet.

Kushner Came Close
Kushner Came Close
Reply to  Tom P.
3 years ago

Trump did really well with Hispanics- apparently he came close to flipping some Texas border counties that went 3:1 or 4:1 for Clinton in 2016. Hispanics really hate BLM! Kushner was overeager- it looks like the moment in which the GOP will be able to completely abandon their white base to Oxycontin while they pander exclusively to the brown “family values” plurality is still 4 or 8 years away. The “abandon the white base to drugs and pander to everyone else” strategy juuuust didn’t make it in 2020, but by the next presidential election it will probably be a safe… Read more »

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skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Kushner Came Close
3 years ago

Even if Trump loses, this will encourage the GOP survivors that hispandering works. I smell bipartisan amnesty.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Kushner Came Close
3 years ago

Shocked when a commenter here mentioned “crucifixes banned in Mexico City, 1920s”.

Whatever Trotsky brought, it got loose. They should’ve icepicked him sooner. Maybe the Azteca were trying to pin it in place.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Tom P.
3 years ago

He began losing me when he did nothing about the riots. He lost me completely when he didn’t slap down Fauci

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

I’m not sure he didn’t covertly sponsor the riots, which probably helped him. His confused and contradictory response to covid probably hurt him.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

he was too smart for his own good

His 2020 campaign was his losing his shirt in Atlantic City 2.0

That’s his pattern. Lots of small and mid size wins but always that one huge monumental failure

greyenlightenment
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

no progress on wall hurt him. that was at least 75% of his 2016 platform.

Mickey
Mickey
Reply to  greyenlightenment
3 years ago

It was a big one for me. It reminds me of the internet joke, “you had ONE job”.

Crispin
Crispin
Reply to  Mickey
3 years ago

False
500 more miles of wall by 12/31/20 — no matter who is sworn in Jan.
https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/along-us-borders/border-wall-system
He has done LOTS of wall construction

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  greyenlightenment
3 years ago

I’m not against the wall. However, it was clear that it would take years, require funding from congress and could still contain the “big, beautiful doors” that Trump often mentioned. High profile deportations would have been quicker, cheaper.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

I don’t blame him for the riots – that was on the local Dem poles who let it burn, and they deserved it. Fuck them.

The mask/Covid fraud was more on him, although for the most part he left it up to the states to decide.

No, what did it in for him was the blatant POC pandering, without giving any support to his own battered supporters. Where was his “if I had another son he would be Cannon Hinnant” moment?

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

I get your point, but that said, I can’t get my head around an “America First” president who would let his country burn. Yes, I get the details of how it’s a local problem, but it was always bigger than that. He owed it to the country to do something real and concrete. My two cents

B125
B125
Reply to  Tom P.
3 years ago

I remember at his rallies, he always talked about Hispanic and black and asian unemployment. But not white men. The 99% white male crowd cheered a bit.

It would be funny if it was the alt-right guys who ended up sinking him. He did perform better with Hispanics.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Tom P.
3 years ago

Yeah bravo white men for voting Biden in a manly fit of emotional pique.

NOW BEND OVER.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

Been bending since 1960 asshole.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

I’m sure YOU have, but see, some of us don’t really like that sort of thing.

The “trump hurt my feelings by not being literal hitler” crowd will realize their mistake soon enough anyway. Enjoy your support of president Kamala, I’m sure she has lots of nice things planned for you.

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JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

Sorry, I’m done with the least of two evils bit. It hasn’t been working out. Trump would be GWBs 2nd term on steroids anyway. President Kamala will be the most hated President in US history, bar none. Whatever her plans for me it can’t be worse than some orange fuck who eventually designates us all as terrorists anyway to appease rap stars.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Here’s some hard won life experience that my other hard won life experience tells me you will dismiss rather than heed…

NEVER ever never EVER begin a sentence with “it can’t be worse”.

Yes it absolutely can.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

Perhaps it HAS to be worse. I still voted for Trump but with very low expectations given what’s happened and what always happens in a second term.

greyenlightenment
Reply to  Tom P.
3 years ago

at least he got 100% of the washed-up rapper vote. lil john, Wayne, ice cube, and others

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
3 years ago

The in your face voter fraud by the Dems shows they are willing to to burn down the house so to speak in order to win. Won’t work, the people I’ve talked and the ones my brother talked to in UT, ID and MT all said the same thing before the election that they expected the Dems to cheat on a massive scale. And these folks are mostly normies. . IOW the Dems are fooling no one on this and a lot of Trump supporters are seething. That said FoxNews destroyed it’s credibility with a lot conservatives with being so… Read more »

Normie
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

What are these tough dudes going to do?

Nothing.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
3 years ago

I think it was the death knell of heritage America. Yeah you could put a silver lining on it as you could anything. But the thing that brought it home to me was that Texas was hanging in the balance for so long. Texas used to be the counterweight to California. Now it’s becoming the second California. Demographics really is destiny. And that means America is not America anymore. Was this a 4 yr reprieve?? Maybe, who knows how this chaos ends. But on the longer trends it just showed that the time is up for heritage America. In four… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
3 years ago

I’ve been saying this since I was 12 (which was weird for a 12 year old to say). But everyone was happy grilling steaks with illegals mowing their yards and while their perfectly good teenage labor was out smoking pot and playing video games. Chickens coming home.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

I feel jaded, I kinda knew this could happen. But to actually see the cr*p going on in Wisconsin rght now….

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
3 years ago

I don’t know, there are still a fair number of normies out there who think the “cheating” is all a conspiracy theory (as the MSM has informed them). That silver lining is pretty damn thin.

dr_mantis_toboggan_md
Member
3 years ago

Yesterday, I saw the long line at our polling place and I wanted to leave. My wife talked me into staying and we waited the hour and a half to cast our ballots. I knew in my heart that that my ballot would be invalidated because some Democrat hack election officials in deep blue areas would stop the counting of legitimate ballots so they could wait for the results from other parts of the state so they could insert just enough “ballots” that were waiting in the trunk of someone’s car to swing the race in their candidate’s favor. It’s… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
3 years ago

I find it fascinating. It’s like an electoral hurricane that’s hitting land at just the right place for maximum political impact. Whether it spits out an illegitimate Alzheimer’s patient and his whore sidekick or the orange clown, either way, maximum impact. Obviously my own state CA has no future but that’s a given. We’ll be southern Italy in 10 years. Yet more incentive to move. I see moving vans being the big winner in this election.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

I’m in CA as well. Our house hunting trip to FL is in January. I’ll be damned if I pay for the train to nowhere, public employee pensions and illegal alien health care.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

I’m more than happy to leave soon, and now a felon can vote in my place. I love how we rejected the Prop that would have clamped down on shoplifting, as even chain stores are closing from rampant theft. Everyone will be ordering their groceries online soon as no one will physically be allowed in the stores. But the demographics, even in the 80s, pointed to this future.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

I moved to CA from FL 22 years ago. When I lived in FL it was in south FL. Don’t recommend that as it is heavily jewish and diverse.
I am looking at the Nocatee/Ponte Vedra area in St Johns County. Saw a promotional video and noticed it was filled with white people with one obligatory negro in the background. Definitely an under the radar appeal to whites. No large college or corporation either. Far enough north in the state for easy evacuation in event of hurricane.
Check out the video:
https://www.nocatee.com/

Fodderwing
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

Nocatee area. My old stomping ground. Lovely area but it will be expensive. Oh, and the new purple state of Florida just voted a $15 minimum wage. A hamburger’s gonna cost you thirty bucks soon.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Fodderwing
3 years ago

I don’t have a problem with expensive. Keeps negroes away.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

Right behind you

Buying a place in N Florida and maybe a place in Blue Ridge Mountains

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Good, Falcone, heartened as I was going to urge you to buy FL because your heart is there.

No place like home.

Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Mysteerious Rooshian Vooman
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

You won’t have to pay for it. We are moving into a cashless economy with a guaranteed basic income (digital), which will simply be “generated” by Big Tech, which is going to replace all banks. It’s already a done deal in Europe, and the Dems introduced the “enabling legislation” in September to move us to a cashless economy. Their target date remains 1 January, although the Trump Revolution (which is what it is) might delay that for “vote counting” and all the lawfare and whatnot. Then the forced vaccinations. Global famine is right over the horizon, too.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Do any of us have 10 years?

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

You should be so lucky to become southern Italy. No you are going to be southern Juarez in 10 years bud, sorry.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

You mean northern Tijuana.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

Any votes for Brazil? 🙁

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

Do we get the dogs, chickens and dirty toddlers playing in the streets like Tijuana too?

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james
james
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

On the other hand you also get tacos.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

Meanwhile southern italy is becoming northern africa.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

We were looking to move as well. Sadly for us the same type of New Yorker that ruined VT are snapping up properties all over the Berkshires, NH, and ME, sight unseen. (I’ve heard similar stories about Californians w/ TX, MT, and WY.)

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

I was in Bozeman recently. they’re calling it Boz-Angeles. Definitely the NW for me (and not Seattle or Portland metro).

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

I really like the Oregon coast and there are some red enclaves there. But the state has high income taxes. Also looked at Vancouver WA (no income tax) and right across the Columbia River from Oregon (no sales tax). But I am sure the area is flooded with Portlanders trying to recreate the mess they made on the other side of the river.
So FL is the likely choice. Will have to get out of there between June and October.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

Vancouver, or “the Couv” as it is known locally, is horrible. A sprawling ugly bedroom community filled with fast food joints, ersatz Mongolian and Thai restaurants, miles of tacky strip malls, insane drivers and clueless libtards that are just now starting to understand what it means to be blessed with vibrancy. Cross it off your list.

Member
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

I’ll second what Peabody said. My job used to take me to Vancouver a lot. What most surprised me was the way it was just sort of a vast sprawl of strip malls surrounding a decrepit haunted-looking downtown area. I also don’t recommend OR. It’s hard to believe but our politics are actually even wackier than CA’s. The problem is that, while CA actually has quite a few based, heritage whites, everyone in Oregon seems to have moved here less than 20 years ago, precisely because it’s so Left wing. As a result the whites here are actually more liberal… Read more »

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

The weather wouldn’t bother me. I grew up in upstate NY where the sun is a rumor. But I’ve concluded that Oregon is better to visit than live.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

I was on Bozeman last year, but yeah it’s libbed out.

I hear Boise, ID is also toast, as is Spokane, WA.

Eastern Idaho might be okay for a bit.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

For income tax reasons, and not sitting in rain for 8 months, I’m looking at eastern WA.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Look at the Bitterroot Seriously…Look at the map of the recent elections…We put a Republican gov back in office first in 16 years…Also put Daines back in as well as Rosendale…Come build Community with me here in MT…

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

I love MT. Suits me well. Except it’s nearly as converged as CO. I appreciate there are vast swaths of free territory but if you go most places for supplies it is surprisingly blue. Which is messed up given heritage Montanans whom I could easily live next to.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

I was in Missoula recently. Felt like home (not in a good way). White shit libs all over.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

So I ask myself WTF we can move. Until about three years ago, I went out into the Alaskan bush for ten days alone every other year. The real deal. My former jump buddy operates a float and bush pilot business there. But where he lives on the coast it is very very shit lib. So where to go. The Ozarks? Not the kind of winter I require. We are former patrons of Telluride CO but that place is now Cali-NY despite the altitude. We’re running out of territory for serious social distancing.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

Every single county in Oklahoma and West Virginia voted for Trump.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

60% white, non-gerrymandered OK-88 elected a black, non-binary Muslim to the House.

Mis(ter)Anthrope
Mis(ter)Anthrope
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

A lot of whites in Oklahoma have some Indian (feather, not dot) blood. And contrary to Elizabeth Warren’s claim, there is no shame in it. But culturally, they are redneck whites. So that 60% white is somewhat deceiving.

There are pockets of negroes, but they are easily avoided. Outside of OKC and Tulsa, Oklahoma is hardcore redneck country.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Mis(ter)Anthrope
3 years ago

One of these days, I have to research the “Black Wall Street” that supposedly existed in Tulsa. I am sure it is BS. Why haven’t they been able to recreate it elsewhere, especially given all the civil rights laws?

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Running to the wilderness is pointless. You will just die tired and alone. That being said, dont stay behind enemy lines – CA, OR, WA, NY, DC, Chicongo, etc are nonsurvival zones for Our People.

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Those fleeing now have to forget about finding a like-minded state – you have to focus on rural counties to find pockets of sanity. Obviously steer well clear of urban areas. Ask prospectvive counties about their “master plan” for “progress and growth” … if they have one, run in another direction. Check for preferred demographics via census stats. Ditto for education and income. For those serious about moving, know in advance that everything is a trade off; e.g. want airport and interstate proximity? So do progressives. Want great public amenities? So do progressives. Wonderful restaurants and Starbucks? Etc. One thing… Read more »

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  CAPT S
3 years ago

You want to avoid any town with a university beyond a community college. Also no significant presence of large corporations. For demographic info, the census is probably no longer reliable. I didn’t even answer this year. What I do for local demographics is look at the local schools on greatschools.com. They are updated annually and since they think diversity is a virtue, they don’t hide it.

Mickey
Mickey
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

If you want to look deeper, try HAR.com for school demographics.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Mickey
3 years ago

That appears to be only for Texas.

StanP
StanP
3 years ago

“Demographics are destiny”. No issue matters more – none.
And we are witnessing the transformation of the historic American nation to one like Mexico due to the incredibly outsized influence of a chosen few coupled with the apathy of a (rapidly decreasing) white majority.
https://vdare.com/posts/of-course-demography-is-destiny-and-some-on-the-left-recognize-it-s-a-weapon

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  StanP
3 years ago

White Pill Time.First, President Trump is a fighter and not out yet. More important and this will sound like a Black Pill, its not. US society is immiserated to the point that no one who participates in it wants to have children. The fertility rate is at an all time low and has been lower every year for year after year, Replacement is 2.1 The Latino TFR is now 1.8 which while a tiny bit higher than White at 1.6 is below replacement, so is the Black, Asian, Amerind and every group except Pacific Islanders (2.1) highly religious who are… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
3 years ago

We tried to tell you Donny, but sleep with Kushner and you get fleas

B125
B125
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

His decline in white male support lines up almost exactly with the supposed alt-right numbers. He did better with Latinos but his margins were lower in the rural upper midwest – fraud or not.

Trump is finished and ACB wont do anything.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

“His decline in white male support lines up almost exactly with the supposed alt-right numbers.”

Which set of poll numbers are you chosing to believe, and why?

Sam
Sam
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

“All that pandering, kissing rapper ass and Platinum Plan gave Blompf a 0.6% increase in the vote while losing a full 5% of the white male vote. This was by far the stupidest campaign in Banana Republic of America history!” https://twitter.com/HiseFrank/status/1324017801565147136 For months there was a meme/warning going around that Trump would lose the white nationalist vote. Coupled with the studies showing how a significant minority of white men have white nationalist views, it looks like that meme came true. Trump ignored white men, and it cost him the election. Kushner miscalculated that the increase in nonwhite votes would make… Read more »

Normie
Reply to  Sam
3 years ago

Yep. Pretend all you want that 4 states all have people forging ballots and “cheating” under the noses of hundreds of volunteer judges and civil servants…

Or accept that 75+ million Americans rejected him, and Trump couldnt turnout enough rural whites…

Sorry

No Blexit
No Blexit
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

The funny thing is that despite the uptick in support from minorities (are they even minorities at this point, or are we?), there was no Blexit. Yet the Kirk/Shapiro/Walsh/Owens wing of the GOP keeps panting over a Blexit…any day now.

You can bet in 2024 they’ll be desperately searching for another Blexit.

Proof Arrives
Proof Arrives
Reply to  No Blexit
3 years ago

The good thing about the election is that it’s now completely clear republicans can never get appreciable amounts of black votes no matter what they do. If sucking up to blacks for years and promising $500 billion in free money when the other guy absolutely won’t do anything other than token gestures won’t do it, nothing ever will. That demographic is a lost cause and republicans should move away from any attempt to court them. Their vote is solely about racial loyalty — to their side — and nothing else.

Jacques Lebeau
Member
3 years ago

I feel sick — just as Z-man says, we are watching the election being stolen right before our eyes. I see a lot of people are feeling beyond sad, feeling hopeless, black-pilled, ready to quit. There is a part of me which feels the same way — but that is exactly what our enemies want and count on. We have to stay strong in the face of this treachery, this outrageous affront to our traditions. We have to find ways to fight back effectively. It may take years, it may take decades, but we can never, ever give up. This… Read more »

bubba
bubba
Reply to  Jacques Lebeau
3 years ago

“muh fraud” is a cope. We’re just yelling it because the results are unfavorable to us.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  bubba
3 years ago

Actually, bubba, it is fraud. Maybe that also serves as a cope, but the fraud is off the charts this time. Much of it is in broad daylight.

bubba
bubba
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Evidence? And I don’t wanna hear it’s because they stopped counting at midnight.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  bubba
3 years ago

It started with changing election rules 30 days out so as not to require postmarks as to when mail-in ballots were received. Whether you want to hear it or not, there was massive fraud, probably unprecedented in Western history, and that assumes you can call the United States a Western nation at this point.

That’s upside, though, because a substantial slice of Joe Normie World realizes what a grubby police state this is now.

Just to be clear: you think this election is legitimate? Because that is an interesting take.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  bubba
3 years ago

The great philosopher Elizabeth Anscombe once said there is a certain type of person who won’t listen to reason no matter what. With those, all you can do is punch them in the nose.

You don’t want to hear evidence, period. F*ck you.

Normie
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

There is no fraud.

Trump got beat. Deal with it.

There are more of them than of people like you.

Normie
Reply to  bubba
3 years ago

Thank you.

This guy sounds like a Resistance member or some Hillary supporter…

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Jacques Lebeau
3 years ago

Well said. Spoken like a man. The enemy will oppress us for a number of years but will ultimately fail.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
3 years ago

Why does the enemy fail?
How?
The enemy is unchallenged except for Trump’s lawyers.

The enemy moves from success to success no matter how blatant and absurd because there is nothing and none in their path.

And why do you accept being oppressed for years?

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Guest
3 years ago

The enemy will fail because it only succeeds through destruction of its own foundation (e.g., elections, “fairness”, a functioning economy/polity, etc.). While it will temporarily gain, it will ultimately lose. It can take a while – the USSR staggered on for 60 yrs or so, Rome a couple centuries. This a marathon, not a sprint. The enemy is sprinting.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Forgive me. I have read no MSM account of the election and my only exposure to what has been happening is here on Z man’s blog. By far the most reliable account. Already, in my UK based office I had one colleague sound off this morning about ‘another four more years of Trump’… I assume from comments here that it is as yet undecided but looking likely for Biden? In any case, the gloves are now off. If Biden has won, and we see a continuation of all the nonsense the last year has thrown at us; well, there is… Read more »

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

The decline will not be linked to the powers, like the soviet union it will all be the fault of “wreckers” secret bad thinkers like you and me who must be rooted out by informants and crushed together with all of their families. Like how the corona always spreads, not because masks and lockdowns never worked, but because of the few dissenters who visited their grandma or didn’t wear a mask at the park.

This is how authoritarianism works. The collapse will just be used as cause to inflict further suffering on the system’s enemies.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
3 years ago

What We Learned. If this is boring as fuzzy winter dog poop and you have no time for reading, skip to the last line! A Biden Presidency Will Mean a Faster US Collapse. Note the term Faster. Under Trump, somewhat controlled collapse. Plausible arguments for the globalists guiding the strings attached to the puppets. https://alt-market.us/a-biden-presidency-will-mean-a-faster-us-collapse/ “Biden is a full blown globalist and is proud of it; Trump is surrounded by globalists and banking elites in his own cabinet. Regardless of who loses the election, the elites win. The only question I am here to ask is, which candidate serves the… Read more »

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JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 years ago

As I’ve said in previous posts, the next term 2021-2025 will be a tar baby term. Many, Many chickens coming home to roost, and especially debt chickens. Personal..corporate…date…local..Federal…. The next President, whomever it is, will be the most hated in US history. Guaranteed. So why not an Alzheimer’s patient who won with nefarious 3:30am ballots? The owners of society should have been thrilled that Trump would be re-elected. Instead they own this tar baby. Trump is a used condom who sold out the white man by 2017. It’s sickening to go through, but there’s no way, with this outcome, that… Read more »

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Trump is a used condom who sold out the white man by 2017. Hey there friendo, that’s not exactly the most respectful way to talk about a guy who volunteered to go from a well liked retired billionaire celeb be the most hated person on the planet with the most powerful enemies on the planet… But hey, I’m sure you’ve given up a lot more than he has and accomplished a lot more. So I can see why you have the moral authority to hold him in total contempt for not having achieved single handed total victory. Oh by the… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

I know the truth hurts. Put some ice on it. Do you think Trump has done anything in his life that’s not 99% about himself or 1% for Ivanka? He’s a fraud and a talker. But don’t look at his words, look at his accomplishments. When he had the court victories to pull the trigger on sanctuary cities, he didn’t. He has had court victories (thanks to Sessions) and never applied them. Immigration is the 1st, 2nd and 3rd most important issue in this country. I could go on, but it would be lost on you anyway.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

I’d be interested to know how making your name the most poisonous epithet known to the global power elite gives you and your family a big leg up. Because I was thinking a little and it seems to me that if I was in it for personal gain and was a famous billionaire already… well MAYBE instead of doing THAT I might… simply buy my kid a cushy no show corporate job, media career, a bottomless slush fund in the form of an eponymous “foundation”, maybe a nice mansion or two, ala Chelsea Clinton and Hunter Biden… But I’m probably… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

He’s paid in ego and power. He loves being the center of attention. He really doesn’t care if its negative.

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

I’m plussing both of your comments, and I’m not meaning to virtue signal by saying that but to point out that i see things from both sides and agree with both of you. At the end of the day, as much as I like Trump for pissing off all of the world’s most annoying and insufferable maggots, JR Wirth is right, in the sense that, when you are a billionaire contrarian, you are in the sweetest of spots. Trump is a rebel heathen driven by ego. I can relate. He is not taking on our enemies because he is a… Read more »

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Alfred Doolittle
3 years ago

You don’t get to be a billionaire unless you are amoral, ruthless and compromised.

Alfred Doolittle
Alfred Doolittle
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

I wouldn’t disagree. But you have people on this side who might argue that is just called winning at evolution. We need a manifesto. There are so many different fucking opinions about who and what we are and what our thing actually is, it’s a giant clusterfuck. I find extreme individualism in the form of carpetbagging capitalism that yields a society where people can accrue billions repugnant, not because I‘m a hater or jealous of another man’s achievement or potential, but because the myopia of such pathological individualism, as someone quoted here a few days ago, is so god damned… Read more »

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

The handwriting was on the wall when he groveled at an AIPAC convention before he won the nomination. Hillary Clinton did the exact same thing the very next evening. I think both speeches were televised live.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

Sure, Trump was disappointing and frustrating in a lot of ways… but let’s go ahead and acknowledge that he was miles ahead of anyone else we had or were likely to have. I don’t know about you, but I have available degrees of opinion between utter perfection and “used condom”. The man went through a lot that he didn’t have to, and took some hard knocks that VERY FEW would and he deserves some respect from our side at least I’m also not fond of our tendency to shoot our own side for any deviation or qualified success. One of… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

Trump, cucky civnat he is, has become an American hero. There literally is no one else who would have withstood such intense opposition. Out of office he will be vilified and damned, but to the Historic American Nation he will be an icon.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

Trump’s issue is that the perfect candidate is the enemy of the good candidate.

Trump is the good candidate.

The hardcore WN set really seemed to think General Franco was going to show up or that Pinochet’s ghost was coming to fire up the Hueys.

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

I guessing that what you mean by hardcore WN set are the TRS clan. And that is not what they believed. Their basic analysis was that Trump was doing worse than nothing and keeping White people asleep by just tweeting that he was their guy. I don’t agree with their belief that Trump losing was better, but I disagree even more with your characterization of their opinion.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  skeptic16
3 years ago

They all grovel when it comes to AIPAC. Odd, if you think about it. The one thing that unites the Uniparty.

Normie
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

Someone’s butt hurt that their Orange hero had the most votes in history against him. Lol

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

If Biden is installed, the debt you mention simply won’t matter. We ae going to be forced into a cashless economy. And that might very well happen even if Trump is installed. “It’s sickening to go through, but there’s no way, with this outcome, that either can govern legitimately.” The operative word being, “legitimately.” And “govern” should probably be “rule.” It’s already a done deal in Europe: travel restrictions, lockdowns, cashless economy, universal basic income (at 80% of your current income), all of it. Only Trump and the US stand in the globalists’ triumph, which, happily, will ultimately fail b/c… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
3 years ago

That’s what Mr. Armstrong and Socrates foresee.
Socialism will eventually collapse in the 2030s.

RDittmar
Member
3 years ago

I think it’s kind of telling that the Democrats aren’t trying to steal any Congressional seats. They appear to be willing to let Republicans win Senate and House seats without “harvesting” the votes they need to overturn results like they did in 2018. I think they are well aware that the nutless wonders in the GOP will start elbowing one another aside to be the first to call on Trump to step aside once the MSM has declared Groping Joe the winner.

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  RDittmar
3 years ago

You got it.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  RDittmar
3 years ago

Though he wasn’t a candidate, even Rick Santorum called Trump irresponsible to say “fraud”.

Barnard
Barnard
3 years ago

The Republicans should start cheating back. Nevada says they won’t count any more ballots until Thursday for some reason. Why not just start printing up Trump ballots in the counties around Lake Tahoe like the Democrats did for Biden in Michigan and Wisconsin? If Trump wins Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Nevada he makes 270.

Sammy
Sammy
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

Who cares about Republicans? Anyway, they did pretty well last night compared to Trump. They’re eager to push him out and crush white populism for good.

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RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

Because the Republicans are the Washington Generals.

c matt
c matt
3 years ago

What We Learned

What the Dems learned – never leave an election up to chance or voters. They made that mistake in 2016, never to be repeated.

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

Precisely.

Barnard
Barnard
3 years ago

We also had further confirmation that politics as a replacement for religion for the average Democrat voter. They had multiple Senate races where they wasted over $100 million or close to it and didn’t come close to winning. The middle class Democrats who donate to these races are the equivalent of Christians who give money to TV evangelists like Jimmy Bakker and Kenneth Copeland. That campaign consultants make huge money on these races is not even a secret anymore, there is just no excuse for giving money.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

That’s a bit part of what happened to Trump, why his message changed.

The Republicans steamrolled him into hiring their campaign managers.

Afterthought
Afterthought
3 years ago

We have to get in the streets. That’s the bluff they are calling. We need to call theirs.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Afterthought
3 years ago

If the situation were reversed, cities would be in flames.

Sand Wasp
3 years ago

A contested election is bad for ending the Covid hysteria.

A clear Biden win would have been a return to normalcy.

A clear Trump victory could have been a mandate to end it.

Now the face mask will be the required mark of obedience to the elite who were unable to gain a clear cut victory.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Sand Wasp
3 years ago

It’s going to be mandatory masks and vax all the way down, just like Melbourne, Australia.

B125
B125
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

The election results were never in question, the USA, russia, Belarus, Syria, and maybe poland/hungary are the only countries not in line with Globohomo plans. USA is the only consequential nation.

So they really need USA under control. It will happen one way or the other.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

It’s called a “Color Revolution”, and the color of ours is Black (how appropriate is that?). It is a combination of burning down the physical landscape, destroying the country’s political and social institutions from within, and turning the population against itself. They have practiced this stuff for a long time, mostly in Eastern Europe (to keep the newly freed Soviet satellite states from establishing themselves), and now it is our turn, the big enchilada.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Eventually it will get to the point where you need a current vaccine passport and DNA-verified loyalty oath to BLM to leave your sleeping tube and access your online Fedcoin account to check the balance.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

The movie’s called “Songbird”, about Covid-23.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Somehow markets are gapped way up and volatility has vanished like tears in rain.

What does Wall Street know that we don’t.

Arcadian
Arcadian
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

“What does Wall Street know that we don’t.”
How to pump and dump. They choose the timing of both.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

I suspect they are betting on two things: Quick end to COVID BS, and pork laden infrastructure package. Or in short, a return to the normal looting of the nation.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

a return to the normal looting of the nation.

We’re all going to get rich selling what’s left of it to China!

greyenlightenment
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

The media wants to believe that these covid deaths and sicknesses are bad for the economy. they are not.

Jonah Kyle
Jonah Kyle
3 years ago

Hell no with the UN. “International observers” are on the same payroll as the election riggers.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Jonah Kyle
3 years ago

are “riggers” the new “joggers”? Memes change so fast

sentry
sentry
3 years ago

I recommend white men to introduce themselves as trannies cause that’s the only way they’ll get to have a future from now on.(I’m half jokin’)

US elects first transgender State Senator, as Sarah McBride takes Delaware for the Democrats

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CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Come on a sentry. The delusional, demented, and mentally ill deserve representation too. 😉

Old Knight
Old Knight
3 years ago

Will make for an nteresting inauguration.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  Old Knight
3 years ago

They’ll probably have Biden wearing a mask with a little recorder in it projecting his voice as if he’s talking live during the oath taking because there’s no way that potato makes it thru the all day ceremonies with enough active brain cells left to carry it off. No ball either which will be blamed on The Rona but it’s really cause it will be way past his bedtime.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
3 years ago

“What We Learned”, if we didn’t already know it, is YT is as soft as puppy shit. We will be getting royally screwed, and in the end, it is deserved. I’m reading graphs that show 9 of the most contested states have more votes cast than registered voters. And what’s going to be done about it? Nothing. Just a shoulder shrug.
These were the good times that make weak men. The dark times ahead will forge strong men. That’s the way of the world. I wish it wasn’t so.

Bilejones
Member
3 years ago

The existential question is : Does one buy Nike stock?
The reparations will be spent somewhere but the joggers may be well supplied due to the recent undocumented shopping opportunities. Peaceful protests.

Decisions, decisions,.

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

“Within ten years, you will own nothing, and you will be happy about it.” Klausz Schwab, PRes. World Economic Forum.

In other words, don’t bother making any investments. Nike or anything else just yet.

Based5.0
Based5.0
3 years ago

I’ve been ranking the possible outcomes of the election in my head for a couple weeks now, focusing on what was going to be best for my long term goal of the National Divorce. The best outcome for that project is the result we appear to be getting: Trump loses narrowly with a credible argument that it was due to fraud. If Trump had won by a landslide, the extreme lunatics on the left might have become convinced that they needed to start pushing for dissolution since the country is so full of deplorables and haters. The problem would be… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Based5.0
3 years ago

Laura Ingraham and the fox cucks are now saying that a diverse latino party is the future for the GOP. They don’t understand Latinos, they don’t want pandering and low tax they want a big man they respect like Trump.

Leftist secession would be more dems are the real racists, confederacy 2.0!

I think the best outcome for our side is for trump to miraculously win in court. Normies see what happened but still have 4 more years to prep and radicalize.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

I’m prepped. If you’re not prepped by now…

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

No one in the continental US is “prepped”. Some people are LARPing more and some less and some not at all. If you’re chilling in an apartment in Bangkok or have a dacha outside Moscow then yeah, maybe you’re set to survive a civil war in the US without unimaginable risk and hardship. Otherwise you’re swimming in the same toilet as everyone else if it comes down to it.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

I’ll be fine.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

I hope you’ll be fine, but unless I is a We you won’t.

And there is no we.

Organize or Die.

But you’d all rather die than organize.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

Good reality check.

I started to move abroad a few years back. It was a mistake when I didn’t.

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

That is somewhat overstated, but I know what you are driving at.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

As a matter of fact, I do have a condo overseas.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Sorry Brother your just a resupply point for the Mexican Gangs so they can have great hardware and food to be able to get them to the outer rural areas…

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

You haven’t seen my panic room.

Jaakko V Raipala
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

If you think a panic room is going to mean anything in a civil war you’re in a world of surprise. My country went through a civil war a century ago (Finland), and the policy of both White and Red armies went like this: a) Anyone outside of the White/Red army found in possession of a firearm is to be executed on the spot b) Any house that doesn’t agree to be searched for firearms, enemy literature is going to be lit on fire or reduced to rubble with explosives Individual prepping is worse than useless. The more you prep,… Read more »

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  Jaakko V Raipala
3 years ago

The best prep is to have lots of people with big guns on your side.

Based5.0
Based5.0
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

To clarify: Prep more. Was hoping that a Trump win would put the brakes on the ammo panic, bring the supply up and these panic prices down.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Based5.0
3 years ago

The oil and vinegar need to separate.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Based5.0
3 years ago

will probably turn out that losing those four years to prep is the kick in the ass we all need

another four years would probably bring on lethargy if not apathy

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

No. The immediate future is unimaginable to most in the country, including the commentariat here. BTW, I recommend Madison (Madison County) Florida for you. IT has everything you mentioned a few weeks back when you were talking about real estate in Florida. Or Live Oak (Suwanee County).

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
3 years ago

Actually was looking in those areas. Looks like I will be getting a place in western Alachua County, perhaps near High Springs, which is mainly for my daughter. I may get myself a little Blue Ridge Mountain place and if the wife doesn’t like it tough doo doo 😉

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  Based5.0
3 years ago

“The bright side of it is,” said Puddleglum, “that if we break our necks getting down the cliff, then we’re safe from being drowned in the river.” – CS Lewis in The Silver Chair

Great line, but not sure it’s a winning geopolitical strategy

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Based5.0
3 years ago

Based, this is exactly where I have been for months. Trump’s greatest achievements were inadvertent but profound. His election and the Empire’s reaction to it revealed what a grubby Third World shithole the nation had become. Even so, NormieCons never would have acknowledged it until…they voted for his re-election, he apparently won it, and then had the victory stolen from him (this appears to be where this lands). I’m certain the Left will try to move as far and as quickly as possible to dilute this nation further with foreigners, but a big slice of the Muh Constitution types now… Read more »

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

I don’t think “they” mean to fill the country with more foreigners. More likely is total lockdowns and NO TRAVEL for anybody from anywhere to anywhere. It’s part of the Great Reset. The travel restrictions are already in place in most of Europe. ANd the cashless economy is a done deal there, too, and the date for that to take effect here is still 1 January. The legislation was introduced in September, although they might not bother with niceties like legislation. The European governments didn’t.

B125
B125
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
3 years ago

They will keep flying in foreigners and also restrict whitey from traveling internally and externally. Anarcho tyranny.

Canada announced that it will import the biggest number of immigrants in history, 400,000 per year (equivalent to 4 million to the usa).

Joe will unleash a flood of 3rd worlders so vast that it will wash everything away.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

This will happen and the pushback will be minimal/non-existent.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
3 years ago

More likely is total lockdowns and NO TRAVEL for anybody from anywhere to anywhere. It’s part of the Great Reset.

Neo-feudalism for Dirt People, globalism for Cloud People.

Of course, European Dirt People areas will be flooded with Third World flotsam and jetsam, courtesy of how the Cloud People spend Dirt People tax dollars.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

The Left are really good at rigging.

There are multiple reports across the country that polling stations only had Sharpies available to mark ballots.

Sharpies that bleed through the ballot paper and render it invalid/uncountable.

AP will call the election this afternoon and Biden will declare victory tonight.

The GOP will let Trump twist in the wind.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

I voted using a sharpie that bled through to the reverse side. The unwanted ink did not affect the scanned column, they were staggered adequately, and the reader threw no fits. Sharpies are a non-issue.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

Too many people from Arizona are complaining on Twitter for it to be nothing.

It’s very possible they had different machines, scanners, or validation criteria at their polling sites.

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Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Arizona graduated to shithole status. This shouldn’t be surprising given the never trumper presence from mccains ghost, the influx of mexicans and california degenerates, and the libertarian goodwhites who never see any of it coming. I say this from CO which is now full retard like Oregon and blue prog from top to bottom. I should have left when the frogs started turning gay.

Lots of big Trump caravans in these states but the goodwhites voted against Trump and not for Biden; no need for a parade when that is your motivation.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

“should have left when the frogs started turning gay.” Frogs are turning gay here in southern Utah. Love your neighbor as yourself! Love everyone! Make no judgment!
Half the households here have a gay kid or a kid who thinks he’s a female dragon. The LDS church is, like water on rocks, pushing beyond loving the gay kids to eventually festooning the chapel with Rainbows.  

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

But it is still just the Denver-Boulder corridor swinging it, the rest of the state is red. CO is a victim of the conplete ineptitude of the ball-less GOPe and the Blue Billionaires, nothing more.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

Arizona voter describing Sharpie situation at her polling place:

https://twitter.com/cbreeze32/status/1323875058918461442?s=09

KGB
KGB
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

The left all but came out and promised they would rig this election. So the question is, what did the right do to respond? I’m not talking about putting steps in place to ensure a proper counting of the votes, either. Ace reports that a thumb drive with 128,000 votes — all of them for Joe Biden — appeared in Michigan in the middle of the night. I have no idea if that’s true, but let’s say it is. Why, then, didn’t the GOP show up a half hour later with a thumb drive containing 129,000 votes for Trump? How… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

This they already did it in 2018.

Anonymousse
Anonymousse
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

If lots of convenient trump votes showed up at a key time media would instantly call fraud, the three letter agencies would be out in force the same night, the votes would be thrown out, and a whole bunch of people would be going to jail. I understand it emotionally but we’ve got to get over the double standard meme. It’s obvious enough by now that they don’t care and aren’t bothered about appearances. They want you dead or a slave, anything that helps make you dead or a slave is legal, anything that impedes that is illegal. This is… Read more »

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KGB
KGB
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

I’m not concerned about the appearance of a double standard. I’m talking about our guys learning that they have to kick, scratch, and claw better than the opposition. So what if people “go to jail”? Tear down the walls and free them. Give judges an offer they can’t refuse. This is what’s eventually going to have to happen and I don’t see the point in putting it off any longer.

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Anonymousse
3 years ago

We saw four young white boys playing on their bicycles in the desert the other day. I can no longer ride in the sand, not having the requisite leg strength. My wife said, “I’ll bet you envy them.”
I said I do not, that they will be white males trying to get jobs ten years from now.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Because they don’t wish to tip over their feeding trough.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

If Trump ultimately does lose, I wish to thank all of you on behalf of Illinois, the most corrupt state in the, ahem, union. Your gracious personal wealth will be transferred to bail us out from generations of our public theft and gross mismanagement. We shall be enabled to bleed you dry with clever, punitive taxes even past the point you believe you could possibly bear. Please smile when your new overlords JB Pritzker, his sister who formerly was his brother, and Lori Lightfoot issue their many edicts for your swift compliance. Remember to pay on time!

Guest
Guest
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
3 years ago

McConnell already signaled this morning that he will cave on state and local aid in a Coronavirus aid package to be passed this year. Here come the bailouts for CA, NY, NJ, IL, and KY. Time to fire up the money printer. I was all in on holding the line for another four years of Trump to buy some time for planning, but with Trump out I’m jumping back on the acceleration wagon. Let’s turn the Senate blue in ’22 and give Americans what they deserve, good and hard. Still interested in touching bases with you if you are planning… Read more »

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Guest
3 years ago

Sorry, I must have missed your message. You may contact me at: EudaemonicPi@protonmail.com

Thank you.

Dan
Dan
3 years ago

We ALL knew the left was going to cheat…on a biblical scale. Even MY DOG knew it. The problem is the system is SO CORRUPT that the left no longer even TRIES to hide the fact they are cheating. They have only one rule. WIN! And ANYTHING they do to achieve that goal is acceptable. The notion of “rule of law” is a convenient fiction to the left. A tool to use when it serves them, an archaic pointless notion to ignore when it doesn’t serve them. And normal, honest conservatives are too polite, too honest, too enslaved by the… Read more »

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Dan
3 years ago

Somewhere in time a white kid with a freshly minted black eye courtesy of diversity’s greatest strength is yelling back at the dusky vibrant hoard running off with his new hightops that his dad is gonna sue their dads into poverty.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Dan
3 years ago

The Left’s cheating is not hidden, in part because revealing it further divides our nation and turns our people against each other. It’s part of the psyops going on here, to break us down. The genius of it is there really isn’t a good response to it, unless all sides agree to drop the arguments—which the Lefties will never do, as they have been too intensely indoctrinated into their side of the game.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

It was pretty blatant. Even for democrats. I think their partisans are even shocked.

Vizzini
3 years ago

Here’s a must-watch. Soviet KGB defector Yuri Bemenov lecturing around 1984. He sounds like he was watching us through a time machine, and he tells the people then how they can prevent us from getting to where we are. Understanding the Modern Political Scenario At least every minute in the video there is an insight that makes me want to pound my head on the desk because it’s 40 years too late, but here’s one I thought was particularly apropos about reversing the process of demoralization: At that point, at the point of destabilization, also this could be reversed, again,… Read more »

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Libdis
Libdis
3 years ago

What we have learned is nothing I haven’t known for decades. The white man is f—– in this country, and when Biden rolls in they really gonna turn the screws. Your head is gonna pop right off.

Lineman
Lineman
3 years ago

Well who wants to start building Communities now that we see they really do hate us and they will never leave you alone???

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

You can’t build a community that we’re thinking of as long as the DA in the community is a Kamala Harris and the Governor is a Gavin Newsom or any derivative thereof.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Well that’s pretty obvious isn’t it which is why I’ve always said that if it’s not feasible to do it where you are at move to somewhere you can…But I think you knew that before you even posed that question…

Major Blackpill (ret.)
Major Blackpill (ret.)
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

They control the federal government. There is nowhere to go. Obama spent years flooding republican districts across the country with refugees and immigrants .There is nowhere you can go when they control the government, increasingly at all levels, including state governments. What’s the point of moving to a red state that’s quickly turning blue? Where can you go that they can’t follow? Where isn’t susceptible to demographic change? Where is it impossible for the Biden administration to amnesty illegals or sue your community for not being diverse enough or import refugees or build section 8 housing or bus in members… Read more »

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

Was waiting for you to surface, Brother!

Major Blackpill (ret.)
Major Blackpill (ret.)
Reply to  Range Front Fault
3 years ago

Unless you can afford a trip to Quantico, you won’t be seeing him any time soon.

Major Blackpill (ret.)
Major Blackpill (ret.)
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

Please stop with that scam Agent Mulder. It’s obvious nonsense meant to dox posters along with diverting attention to ultimately unproductive endeavors. Do not exchange contact information with this poster or meet up with him in the real world, as he’s often tried to set up. You’re NOT building any communites in this country under mass immigration, when the secret police are everywhere, when the other side controls a government that could easily break up your community any time they want just as Zimbabwe stole White communities in that country. Any claim to the contrary is based on either incompetence… Read more »

Jacques Lebeau
Member
3 years ago

“These disgusting piggish buffoons must meet the fate of all tyrants.”
A thousand times AMEN.