The Popular Fanatic

Note: I have a new post up on Taki today about the Church of Covid. Good to see the headline writer finally took my advice. I also have a new post up behind the green door on the 80’s comedy Back to School.


An old criticism of liberal democracy was that the system would inevitably become less stable, as each election would result in a wild swing in direction. The people would support position X in one election and then support position Y in the next election, with X and Y being opposite positions on some issue. We are getting a sense of that now with Biden’s handlers promising a reversal of Trump’s policies, which were allegedly a sharp break from the policies of predecessors.

One reason for this is that liberal democracies are bourgeois societies, in which the old instinct to dress up interests in objectivity and civic virtue remain strong. It is considered immoral for a group to press their interests in a purely partisan way, so everyone insists that science and the public good are the motivations. The deliberate destruction by the elites of the civic life of societies is not just a naked attempt to remake the world in their image, but an effort to build back better.

Bourgeois objectivity, however, does not work as a brake on the partisanship that comes with democracy. Instead, it works to magnify it. Every issue, instead of being a fight between interested parties, is a fight for eternal truth and cosmic justice. Voting for party X is not about where your bread is buttered, but about where you stand in the moral hierarchy, relative to the people in party Y. The polarization we are seeing today is not about practical politics, but about good versus evil.

Of course, in order to arrive at the point of bourgeois partisanship, you first must arrive at a post-scarcity society. When the threat of extinction is no longer obvious, the people are free to indulge in fantasy and leisure items. In the Cold War, the West avoided this state because the threat of nuclear war was real. The sober-minded had the primary duty of keeping the frivolous under control. Once that was removed, the frivolous and insane were free to run wild through society.

The result is a strange paradox. The issues that rise to the top are increasingly trivial and ridiculous, but the partisanship around them becomes more intense. Two men playing house is a fact of life going back to the dawn of man, but suddenly the embrace of this became a defining issue. If that was not ridiculous enough, what followed was a parade of men in dresses demanding we play along with them. Then it was people with a list of bizarre pronouns demanding validation.

At some level, the bourgeois partisan knows this, but instead of acknowledging the obvious, the demand for public judgement becomes more intense. In the Cold War, the Left had get out the vote drives, by which they meant rigging the voting in major urban areas. Otherwise, there was a quiet understanding that voting should be left to those who pay attention. Today, voting is a moral duty and we are endlessly reminded of it in the months before an election. The truth must be decided.

This is probably the only thing about liberal democracy that makes sense. If everyone votes, then the winners can claim a mandate. If Trump voters, for example, realized the vote was being rigged and boycotted the election last week, the winners could not legitimately claim a mandate. This used to be a tactic in low-trust societies ruled by an elite seeking legitimacy at the ballot box. In modern societies, everyone assumes the truth is fifty-percent-plus-one, so everyone must vote.

Here is where we stumble into another paradox of liberal democracy and another source of partisan anger. All human societies have elites and those elites control the institutions of the society. In theory, popular forms of government either check the power of the elites or place real power into the hands of the people. In one variation, the powerful propose and people dispose. In the other variation the people both propose and dispose. Democracy is about the public will.

In reality, voting is entirely meaningless in a liberal democracy, as the elites control public policy exclusively. The winning side in 1992 thought they were getting a folksy John F Kennedy, when they just got a skeevy Bush I. Bush voters thought they were getting a dim version of Reagan, but got Lyndon Johnson. The people celebrating Biden think they will get reeducation camps and proscription lists, but instead they will end up with a less coherent version of Bush II.

As the researchers in this 2014 study found, those elites that are a permanent feature of all societies control public policy in a liberal democracy, just as they do in every other form of government. In liberal democracy, however, the people are blind to this reality, instead believing that the market place of democracy decides. If elite opinion tracked public opinion, no one would mind, but when elite opinion is at war with the public, it becomes another source of partisan rage.

This leads to the final paradox of liberal democracy. The most rational strategy for minority interests is to withdraw consent, as this strips some legitimacy from the winner of the democratic process. Instead, partisans become more intensely partisan after each electoral defeat and every betrayal. In two years, those red MAGA hats will be a bloody shirt inspiring partisans to vote for the GOP, who will promptly betray those voters at the first opportunity. The anger will keep rising.

The reason that the world appears to be going mad is that liberal democracy, without the brake of thermonuclear war, is a runaway train of partisan fury. Instead of disputes being settled at the ballot box, each election intensifies the dispute. Haldane famously observed that fanaticism is man’s greatest invention. That’s because it is his greatest weapon. As partisan fury rises in liberal democracy, the fanatic becomes the most valued participant. It becomes rule by fanatic.

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Pursuvant
Pursuvant
19 days ago

Maybe the importation of replacements can end, now that the ((())) & team can steal in plain sight with no consequences. Never will they lose another election, starting with GA senate runoff.

My spell checker doesn’t seem to be working, is it “Amerazuela” or “Amerizooela” ?

Last edited 19 days ago by Pursuvant
JustaProle
JustaProle
Reply to  Pursuvant
19 days ago

I believe it is spelled “Zimbabwe”

Pursuvant
Pursuvant
Reply to  JustaProle
19 days ago

I think there’s a glitch in my Apple synaptic implant from the C-19 vaccine, keeps flipping everything to biden

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Pursuvant
19 days ago

C’mon, man!

JustaProle
JustaProle
Reply to  Pursuvant
19 days ago

No worries we’ll get you fixed right up! The WSJ leaks miraculously the Monday after election that Pfizer’s poison, er um, vaccine, for the common cold, er um, covid, has a 90% efficacy. Amazing!

B125
B125
Reply to  JustaProle
19 days ago

Take your water vaccine, and the col– I mean covid disease is magically cured!

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  B125
19 days ago

Well, since the disease doesn’t exist, I’m surprised it isn’t 100% They could get the same results with Coue’s “Everyday in every way I’m getting better and better.”

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  James O'Meara
19 days ago

That too. All that is needed is a sycophant MSM and the disease disappears. The MSM will carry water for the explanation of continuing cases—and a few deaths now and then—as those poor unfortunate 10%, or the assholes refusing vaccine who deserve such. But all you “smart” people who took the vaccine are safe and can go out again thanks to Biden and his decision to follow “science”.

Yep, people are that stupid.

Member
Reply to  James O'Meara
19 days ago

In certain parts of Wisconsin and Michigan the vaccine cures 124% of the infections.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  JustaProle
19 days ago

I have not looked it up, but if so (90% effective) I believe it would make it unique among vaccines.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  CompscI
19 days ago

Will be interesting to watch all the Whole Foods progs who have kept their precious kids off of the evil and toxic GMO apples over the years line up to have them injected with a secret sauce that genetically modifies their cells to pump out sars rna.

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Screwtape
19 days ago

Proof that what matters to them isn’t “science” but virtue signaling.

Member
Reply to  Screwtape
19 days ago

It must be tough to be a proggie. There’s always a lot of new “information” to digest and this week’s can contradict last week’s. I’m sure they’ll all be much happier when they can just download all the correct opinions through their iPhone into their iPerson brain implant chip.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  pozymandias
18 days ago

It must be tough to be a proggie. There’s always a lot of new “information” to digest and this week’s can contradict last week’s.

Nah. They have the Red Queen beat hands down when it comes to believing impossible things. Just as Progs can speak out of both sides of their mouth – at the SAME TIME – they can do what passes for thinking with both sides of their brain.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  Screwtape
19 days ago

Oh I know these people well. They are also for fluoride in the water supply because ‘poor’ (i.e., black) people can’t afford to can’t be bothered to take care of their children’s teeth. True story.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  CompscI
19 days ago

and that 90% has 20 footnotes and qualifiers in very small fine print

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Falcone
19 days ago

Funny you should say that—well not funny, you post here at a high level.

Heard a spokesman from Pfizer. He said 90% effective in that “symptoms minimized (no complications) and no deaths”. Sounded awfully like he was walking back the MSM raves. You can still get sicker than a dog. I also wonder if the current COVID strain is not weaker than the first wave, which would explain a lot of the current low mortality.

Last edited 19 days ago by CompscI
Member
Reply to  CompscI
19 days ago

Actually that just sounds like what is already happening. A lot of the “cases” are just false positives so of course there are no symptoms. As for the lower death rate, this could simply be due to the fact that most of the people who were going to die from it died back in the spring. It also wouldn’t surprise me at all if virtually everyone has already been exposed to it by now and the current hysteria is all an attempt to prevent the arrival of what’s been here for months. In any case, I’m pretty sure the truth… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  CompscI
19 days ago

Wasn’t there an ‘S’ and and ‘L’ strain, one weaker and nonlethal? So the hosts don’t die, making a weakening spread, aka herd immunity.

Nonetheless, I note near the bottom that they just announced the Pfizer HealthPass, proof of vaccination, will be required by air lines, cruise lines, and employer/insurers.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Falcone
19 days ago

Needless worrying. Vaccines are so safe 😈 that the federal government provides backstop Insurance because otherwise the companies couldn’t get liability coverage, just like the nuclear power industry and probably many other risky Ventures.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Childhood_Vaccine_Injury_Act

DLS
DLS
Reply to  CompscI
19 days ago

Yes, the flu vaccine varies from 20-60%. What they mean is 90% in a controlled lab environment with no mutated strains. My guess is 10-20% in the real world.

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Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  CompscI
19 days ago

Well, since 95% of the most vulnerable (over 70’s) and 99%+ survive overall, how does a “90% effectiveness rate” compute?

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  CompscI
18 days ago

A vaccine 90% effective on a virus with a 99.7% recovery rate. Wonder who’s getting the massive payday for this one? After all, as Deep throat put it, “Follow the money.”

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  JustaProle
19 days ago

Read that the vaccine hurts like a mo-fo. It’s been known to happen with some vaccines.

Ask any Gulf State Liberation/democracy spreader/ freedom enhancing team warrior about his anthrax shot and watch them wince.

Last edited 19 days ago by ProZNoV
Guest
Guest
Reply to  ProZNoV
19 days ago

It was the smallpox that was gross.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  ProZNoV
19 days ago

They’ll never get me to take their shitty ass vaccine.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  tarstarkas
19 days ago

Agree with the sentiment, however:

Get ready for

  • Condition of employment requirements
  • Proof of vaccination for travel
usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  ProZNoV
19 days ago

There’ll be all sorts of potential restrictions that can be slapped onto us anti-vaxxers. Then further identified with the dreaded scarlet C or scarlet virus image tattoo or some such, so we can more easily be vilified, ostracized and targeted with rotten tomatoes. Awesome times coming down the pike.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  ProZNoV
19 days ago

Get ready for forged proofs, too. This is a capitalist society, after all, anything can be bought.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
18 days ago

They will when “papers, please” means showing proof of either having been exposed or having received the vaccine. You will either have to produce the requisite documentation or you will not be allowed access to any public or private space other than your own home. These people aren’t f**king around. They mean business. If they can successfully shut the world down they can pretty much do whatever the hell they want.

Now, “Papers, please“.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  ProZNoV
19 days ago

Another “decimate the warriors” program, eh? (Along with burnout and killing off the Mideast Christians.)

Then invent a new ‘mental disease’, PTSD, just in time for Pfizer to get Zoloft approved. Gotta poison those plebs!

Last edited 19 days ago by Alzaebo
Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
18 days ago

Hey! My son along with his father-in-law are both living with PTSD – my son from Operation Desert Storm (he went into Kuwait City mere hours after the Iraqis left. He also wok up next to a dead Iraqi soldier.) and his father-in-law from 2 tours in the Nam including a close encounter with a land mine that netted him 2 artificial knee joints. Note that a soldier who served a single tour in the Nam spent more time in combat conditions/mortal peril than a Roman Legionnaire did in their entire CAREER! If you put sane men into insane conditions… Read more »

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  JustaProle
19 days ago

AND it’s be ready by December, as they are rushing everything to be ready for Biden ASAP (or before the courts reverse his “win”)

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Pursuvant
19 days ago

Is there a vaccine for leftism yet? Who is working on this?

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  OrangeFrog
19 days ago

Stanley Tool Manufacturing, Inc.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
19 days ago

Mssrs. Smith and Wesson are hard at it.

Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
19 days ago

The Russians used to say “9 grams of lead”.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  pozymandias
19 days ago

Deviat gramov. Excedrin headache No. 357.

NordicGoats
NordicGoats
Reply to  OrangeFrog
19 days ago

I thought that was developed long ago by Dr. Joseph-Ignace Guillotin

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  NordicGoats
18 days ago

Contrary to popular misconception, Dr. Guillotin did not actually invent the execution machine which bears his name. All he did was promote it as a “humane” way to execute criminals. BTW, there is evidence to suggest that those who experienced an encounter with Madame Le Guillotin may well have survived AND REMAINED CONSCIOUS AND AWARE for upwards of a minute after their heads fell into the basket. Only good way to go by my reckoning is quietly in your sleep. Had an Aunt who went that way. Kissed my Uncle good-night, told him she loved him and died quietly in… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  OrangeFrog
19 days ago

The only vaccine for leftism is living under leftism for a while.

B125
B125
Reply to  Pursuvant
19 days ago

Looking forward to the GOP rats losing both Georgia seats in a landslide.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Pursuvant
19 days ago

I always thought that if mass immigration was going to end it would have to be at the hands of the Democrats

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Falcone
19 days ago

Only Nixon could go to China?

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  skeptic16
19 days ago

Yep, something akin to that

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Falcone
19 days ago

I agree and it will only happen when unemployment tops a certain level as wages continue to stagnate.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  JR Wirth
19 days ago

Wage stagnation and the “Gig” economy were part of the plan all along.

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Falcone
19 days ago

Makes sense; a resurgence of Bernie style working class solidarity on the Left would be as likely as populism overcoming Chamber of Commerce open borders on the Right. Best to look at all options.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Falcone
19 days ago

Hard to imagine what justification for ending mass immigration could possibly come from the stunted mind of a committed leftard. But it would undoubtedly have an extremely compassionate and moral framework, of course.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  Pursuvant
19 days ago

Or perchance Amer Rouge.

Doze Rose
Doze Rose
Reply to  Pursuvant
19 days ago

Never will they lose another election, starting with GA senate runoff. “The most legal immigration in history”, sucking up to black rappers, putting violent felons back onto the street, and reee’ing about how granny boomer should die for the economy will do that to you. BTW, there was a swing to Biden in the White demographic across much of the country, so the voter fraud narrative isn’t terribly persuasive. That demographic shifted Georgia and Pennsylvania away from Trump. Seniors enraged over Trump’s poor Covid performance flipped Pennsylvania and White suburbanites scared of Atlanta blacks flipped Georgia. You people did that.… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Pursuvant
19 days ago

No the replacement will go on. Z is dead wrong thinking it’s business as usual with a Kamala regime. This is what I would have expected from Juan Williams or Marie Harf not a supposed thought leader of the DR.
As a Californian I see how the Left is relentless in their efforts to turn the state into another Venezuela, It is not business as usual and is why the white professional class are fleeing like rats leaving a sinking ship.
And Kamala is Newsom on steroids.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
19 days ago

I really ought to know better by now, but could not resist a dig at a co-worker waffling on about how ‘Biden was going to undo all the ills Trump caused’. I played dumb, asking what the result of the election was, she looks at me, dumbfounded: Dude, how can you not know that?! It is the most important election in the history of the US! Me: So, who won… apparently? Her: Biden! Me: That’s the creep who grooms under age girls, isn’t it? I must say, partisanship is most amenable to my character. I don’t even need to think… Read more »

whitney
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
19 days ago

Yeah this is true I do actually understand how the leftist felt four years ago now because I am totally over people in my own family. Mostly, because my state does not have a mask a mandate so I don’t have to walk around the park with a mask on. I’m making sure all my Lefty family members know that Biden wants Nationwide mask mandate because that is actually something we will all feel

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  whitney
19 days ago

Hammer them with the fact mask waste is piling up in the environment and the fibers are piling up in our lungs:

https://off-guardian.org/2020/11/06/face-masks-a-danger-to-our-planet-our-children-ourselves/

Start screaming about, “murdering Gaia,” when they try to push back on the environmental angle.

Last edited 19 days ago by The Wild Geese Howard
Arcadian
Arcadian
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
19 days ago

Ah, hammering them, yes. But with sarcasm, a heavy variety. Just had this exchange with a family member living in a retirement community (word for word): Arc: Hey, congrats! Person: For what? Arc: Your man Biden. I saw on tee vee that he received the largest vote count of any presidential candidate in American history! I am bleeding red, white and blue right now. I could not be more proud. Person: I am going to [conduct typical retirement community activity] with my Biden fan friends right now. You know Doctor [other person] and his son. His son is 48 (non… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
19 days ago

That’s infected hazmat waste, too, supposedly.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
18 days ago

What’s the old saw, “Act in haste; repent in leisure.” IIRC, Talib was one of the ones demanding the headlong rush towards lockdown and face diapers. And to think that he did so based upon his own “precautionary principle”. Reckon he’d admit that maybe the “cure” was worse than the “disease”? Nah. Me neither. Funny how guys like him can argue both against things they don’t like and for things they do using the selfsame “scientific” principles. I reckon it’d kill someone like Talib to actually do a rigorous, fact-based analysis.

Last edited 18 days ago by Bill_Mullins
whitney
Member
Reply to  whitney
19 days ago

And one of them is actually going to feel tangible harm. I’ve been giving one of my leftist relatives money since this all started. We’re in the same business but they’re much less competent than I am so their business has suffered a lot. If there’s another lockdown that’s it they don’t get another dime from me

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  whitney
19 days ago

I should compliment you on your charity but my gut response is ARE YOU NUTS? All you get from charity (verbal or financial) is a kick in the teeth.

whitney
Member
Reply to  3g4me
19 days ago

Yeah

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  3g4me
19 days ago

Yes. Nothing breeds resentment like charity.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
19 days ago

Hence, the Marshall Plan.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
19 days ago

Hence? But yes, that irked.

Or take France; most French feel a spiritual brotherhood to America due to muh republic and all that, but liberating them from Les Boches didn’t help the fraternal relations.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
18 days ago

My experience with Europeans is something to the effect of, “Okay. You helped us free ourselves in 1944-45; but what have you done for us since then?”

The Germans are worse since they are the ones who we beat to set the rest of Europe free. If we hadn’t intervened all of Europe (and much of Russia?) would be speaking German now.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
19 days ago

Whoa there, I almost forgot my favorite Marshall Plan-anecdote. I once had the privilege and pleasure of interviewing one of the first Commie infiltrators to penetrate to permanent secretary-level of Danish government, the legendary Erik Ib Schmidt. (Or erik ib schmidt, as he preferred himself, having adopted a 1920s Commie affectation of not using capital letters. ) He had been on the Danish legation at the Marshall Plan negotiations and told me this story: At one summit meeting, they were going to decide how big a slice of the Marshall pie each country would get. To that end, each country… Read more »

Last edited 19 days ago by Felix_Krull
Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
19 days ago

Poignant, indeed. Droll, even.

And that’s where bell hooks gets it.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  whitney
19 days ago

I’m in a similar position. My older sister is in her late 50s, and has not had a job in about 20 years. She has health problems she uses as an excuse, but could work somewhere like Walgreens. But she is one of those people that just can’t seem to get or hold a job. She is very leftish and convinced my parents to vote Biden. Thankfully we are in a red state so it made no difference, but it still rankles. My parents give her about $2K/mo from their pensions. They don’t need the money and don’t want to… Read more »

Last edited 19 days ago by DLS
Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  DLS
19 days ago

If you ever give her money, demand her ballot in return.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  DLS
19 days ago

Are there no worthy grandchildren to give your side of the folk’s inheritance to?

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Penitent Man
19 days ago

Thought about that, but they need to earn their own way. I generally believe leaving money to able bodied people subtracts from their soul, if that makes any sense.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  DLS
19 days ago

Don’t give her a penny – if the situation were reversed, she wouldn’t leave you a dime. She’s already wasted her life (no marriage/no children/no common sense) so if you really don’t need the money, use it to help some young White family with children trying to survive clownworld.

whitney
Member
Reply to  DLS
19 days ago

Ditto entire first paragraph

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  DLS
19 days ago

Make her comp contingent on weekly meetings with a mental health counselor that you thoroughly vet in advance. You owe it to her to try and I believe it might help. Involve your parents and form a family support group. Mental illness is sometimes fixable, and you should try, as it’s comparable to physical damage, even schizo manifestations. I should have done this for myself at one juncture but I’ve always managed to push through things, sometimes extraordinary physical or mental conditions, and emerge on the other side in good shape with additional wisdom. So I’ve never availed myself of… Read more »

Member
Reply to  DLS
19 days ago

I know tons of people like her. Living on a small allowance from one’s parents while being a Leftist freak is probably the most common “job” here in Portland. It’s people like this who should be given the option to redeem themselves by selling themselves into slavery. Only half kidding. Needless to say voting rights go away for good.

As for the grandkids and not wanting to spoil them, why not give them a low interest loan to start a small business? We’re going to need to replace the hundreds of thousands of them destroyed by the Scamdemic.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  whitney
19 days ago

I still will not wear the mask. Unfort this will make Bezos even richer. Or else perhaps the mom and pop Mexican groceries here. The Mexicans have great meat and produce, and they will let you inside to buy without a mask and nobody will call them on it. Mexican alderman, you know.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
19 days ago

I know I am. I’ve checked out of politics completely now. I’ll only get involved once the shooting starts. For now I’m stockpiling ammo, beer and popcorn and stropping my bayonet across the whetstone.
Soon…sooooon, my Precious……

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Glenfilthie
19 days ago

Agreed. None-the-less, I detest those leftard dirtbag bast**** & bit**** gloating and rubbing our faces in it. Old somedunce and his treepers say it creates a cold anger – mine is more like a white hot hatred. I need to take a chill pill…

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Glenfilthie
19 days ago

Same here

Officially done with this garbage

Nothing will change the fact that I am literally being swarmed by weird people from the third world, so no need to involve myself

Dropping out time for Falcone. Buy some land. Build a tennis court, God willing. Whack balls for a few years, get a tan, do some farming, fishing. May have a grandchild in a few years. Walk the farm with him or her. My middle finger to the world

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Falcone
19 days ago

Indeed. Why should we continue participating in this political charade? We were disenfranchise by this coup, and in the future there will be no Trumps, only Romneyoids and McCainites. The Power Structure will make certain that only well-vetted AWRs can hold federal power.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
19 days ago

Yep, the blob got blindsided in 2016, figuring no way Trump could possibly win. Thus four frantic years of continuous undermining and sand in the gears of the administration. Now the blob is fully awake and on high alert. No way another Trumpenstein (in leftard’s view) can possibly win a future election. Thus they float their two most pathetic candidates to the (apparent) win, basically saying WTF are you/we gonna do about it? They didn’t even bother to run someone who could be plausibly thought of as a winner. They don’t give a shit cause the fix was in –… Read more »

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
18 days ago

Why should we continue participating in this political charade?

Indeed. I believe that I have voted for the last time. Even if I do live to the next general election (thereby out-living my Mom) I see no reason toe believe my vote will even be counted – much less count. I see no reason to engage in an exercise in futility. The Left is united and has the bit between its teeth; there is pretty much nothing beyond the Progs’ grasp now.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Bill Mullins
18 days ago

There’s no point in lending their tyranny any semblance of legitimacy. Let them own that tyranny.

Suburban_elk
Reply to  OrangeFrog
19 days ago

What happened after that?

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Suburban_elk
19 days ago

Her: …

Three seconds later, eye roll and

Her: No, that’s not true… That was something the Trump administration put out to the press. What it was was just that some of the girls got a bit uncomfortable because he got too close. It was innocent… I never knew you were a Trump fan..

Whether I was a fan of Trump or not, I have been outed. Because bad feelings.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  OrangeFrog
19 days ago

“I’m not a Trump fan, I just #BelieveAllWomen. Don’t you believe all women?”
(staircase wit, I know).

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  OrangeFrog
19 days ago

f

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  OrangeFrog
19 days ago

The dumb fucks don’t realize that they’re going to own every fuckup for the next four years.

CovId deaths up this week? Thanx Biden and the asholes that selected him.

Terrorist attack? Thanx asshole that voted Biden.

Unemployment up? Thanx d-douchebag.

Im going to enjoy this.

Juri
Juri
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
19 days ago

Communists never own anything. All bad is from public enemies. Those people never wake up. In former Soviet Union it is clearly visible. Even those commies who ere sent to Gulag and somehow survived, did not change their opinion not even a little. For commies Donald damage lasts forever so now they have excuse for problems for next 200 years.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Juri
19 days ago

Yep. Out-running Orange Man Bad is like out-running Whiteness. Distance from original sin only compounds the toll to be collected.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
19 days ago

Exactly how I am seeing it

With every Biden/Harris screw up and I am gong to LAY into every liberal like no tomorrow

They are going to regret every saying they supported those two grifters

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
19 days ago

The dumb fucks don’t realize that they’re going to own every fuckup for the next four years.

They’re going to own everything for much, much longer. In two years, they will control Congress and have begun packing the courts. A million Chinese will have newly arrived to “help” us restore our manufacturing base (cough). Our IP laws and enforcement mechanisms will be detuned to contribute towards innovation that addresses climate change.

And we will begin hearing a lot of mandarin and chinese political expressions gradually being inserted into our daily lives.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
19 days ago

All of that stuff will be blamed on Cheeto Hitler.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Felix Krull
19 days ago

“They were still booing him, even after we got on stage!”

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
18 days ago

The dumb fucks don’t realize that they’re going to own every fuckup for the next four years. Uh-uh. As Juri said, “Communists never own anything. All bad is from public enemies.” Anything and everything which goes the least bit south will self-evidently be Trump’s fault in the same way that anything and everything bad that happened under O’Bozo’s regime was Bush’s fault. Face it. In the main leftists are just damned incompetent (for which I am glad since it limits the havoc they can wreak) but the ONE THING at which they are truly, TRULY good is deflecting blame. Mark… Read more »

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TomA
TomA
19 days ago

Go deeper. Once upon a time, the weak and the stupid died young, did not reproduce, and the strong and the smart dominated the gene pool. And the species rose to the top of the life pyramid. Modern civilization and affluence has entirely reversed that dynamic, and all the maladies mentioned in this post are a consequence of ongoing and worsening DNA pollution. You cannot talk or vote your way out of this dilemma. At some point, malicious and corrupt government smashes headlong into peon fury and desperation. During the French Revolution, this unleashed chaotic destruction and imperfect culling. We… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  TomA
19 days ago

If you wanna talk hard truths that shall never be spoken, this topic is the ultimate heresy.

Do you think so? I have always thought that the race issue trumps dysgenic issue hands down. In fact, most of the people I have spoken to seem OK with the fact that we’re more cowardly and to a degree more stooopider than in the past. The topic seems far easier to bring up that race.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  OrangeFrog
19 days ago

Race is simply the manifestation of evolutionary selection in a particular environment. Black people (Negroids) possess the traits that worked well in the environments of central and southern Africa (this includes skin pigmentation). Caucasians possess traits that worked well in the Caucasus Region of SE Europe and SW Asia. DNA pollution takes the entire species down, and does not discriminate based on race. None of us are well adapted for the modern man-made environment of civilization in which many peoples are intermixed in places where they are not well suited.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  TomA
19 days ago

DNA pollution takes the entire species down, and does not discriminate based on race.

This is why DNA pollution/dysgenic (I assume I have not conflated the two) is easier to bring up in public… It’s not racist!

Deshawn
Deshawn
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
19 days ago

What’s wrong with being racist???

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Deshawn
18 days ago

What’s wrong with being racist??? Glad you asked. Depending upon where you live it can cost you your livelihood and get your tender ass arrested and fined. Making “racist” remarks is considered “disorderly conduct” in some jurisdictions and being called out as being “racist” on social media can easily cost you your job. And you don’t have to be lily-white for this to happen, either. Look up the story about the Asian guy in Arizona who publicly challenged a Jogger taking pictures in his neighborhood, uttered aloud the alternate spelling of “jogger” and admitted to being a “racist”. He was… Read more »

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Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  TomA
19 days ago

That situation exists among animals, too. Whitetail deer in Maine tend to be bigger than whitetail deer in Florida. Leopards and jaguars in the tropics are often black. Arctic animals are often white. Wild animals are typically more intelligent and hardier than their domesticated brethren. Difficulties arise when an animal or human who evolved to exist under certain conditions moves to a different one. The high rate of skin cancer among Whites in northern Australia is one example. During the era of genuine White Gentile supremacy in this country, blacks to some degree adopted White attitudes and behaviors. With the… Read more »

Last edited 19 days ago by Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
19 days ago

(White Gentile- excellent phrasing, adopting that, thanks)

Last edited 19 days ago by Alzaebo
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Alzaebo
19 days ago

To distinguish from the (((Whites))) in Name Only crowd.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
19 days ago

Thanks again, Ris, because a lot of very decent or necessary White people aren’t Christian or WINO.

It’s a nice way to include everybody while noticing the *strong horse* empowering the rest.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  TomA
19 days ago

Bingo! But as to speaking of race. From my point of view in this berg it is far more common to talk of such on the radio. Not as common to talk of specific minorities, but one hears of “Whites” having problems specific to them and their plight all the time. Prior to a few years ago, such problems were usually spoken about as being universal in nature. It was never Whites vs “others”. It is now.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  CompscI
19 days ago

Wondering if the ratings for Political Cesspool begin to skyrocket

I had forgotten all about them until Greg Johnson was a guest the other day, I found out about through Counter Currents.

Actually for me, a little hard to believe that Political Cesspool is on an actual radio channel / Liberty Network.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  TomA
19 days ago

Genetics and evolution is fascinating to read about in books geared to the layman. Even good for water cooler talk, just avoid the human races debate! Based upon my admittedly very limited knowledge, all life began with a single organism about 3.5 billion years ago. Everything, plant, animal, weird in-betweens, is a direct descendant. Talk about diversity! Mammals are relatively late on the scene, a couple hundred million years ago. Of the several million living species, there are probably a hundred or a thousand times as many extinct species. Natural selection takes no prisoners. Just recently I learned that humans… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  TomA
19 days ago

Sounds a lot like Spandrell’s Bio-Leninism or the spiteful mutant concept.

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
Reply to  thezman
19 days ago

Speaking of tarting up, I just read a new piece by Moldbug. That guy’s the most prolix and purple writer out there. Someone should tell him blogging is not a literary endeavor. Still, he did have one good point: for Trump to do some good, to admit that our government and our people are hostage to Big Tech, he would have to admit that even the president is powerless. It wasn’t just that he got seduced by flattery like any standard GOP pol; he couldn’t lose face by admitting that the president can’t drain the swamp, because he is not… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
19 days ago

I have tried to understand Spandrell’s definition and use of the term Bioleninism, and it always strikes me as obtuse, vague, and contradictory. So not much use in rational discussion or reasoning.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  TomA
19 days ago

I thought your points were a decent summary!

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  TomA
19 days ago

Anyone that takes a simple concept and makes it significantly harder to understand by using esoteric and arcane academic language is not someone you want to hitch your wagon to whatsoever. They are either elitists or posers, it is lose-lose. (See: Curtis Yarvin)

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Apex Predator
19 days ago

You just said it better than I tried some months back

Which is what I feel about Kevin MacDonald, although I agree with him. Wraps everything up in academic jargon where no one needs any of that to know what shitbirds are the ((()))

Vizzini
Reply to  TomA
19 days ago

Modern civilization and affluence has entirely reversed that dynamic, and all the maladies mentioned in this post are a consequence of ongoing and worsening DNA pollution.

Someone on this site in just the past week was saying that evolution didn’t work on a timescale short enough to include peoples’ selection of socio-political organization. I didn’t know how to respond without being rude.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Vizzini
19 days ago

The French managed to shave off everything to the right of the Jacobins for 230 years (and counting) with the National Razor. The Russians managed to literally r@pe to death whatever was left of the national character of Germany. The Mongols, etc. etc. Vizzini, whoever was saying that is historically illiterate, or maybe just regular illiterate.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Vizzini
19 days ago

Wasting disease is found in deer populations that inhabit man-made environments devoid of predators as opposed to their natural environment of routine culling predation. This change happened in a relatively short time span. Why should our species be any different?

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RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  TomA
19 days ago

The deer explosion (at least where I am) happened due to the elimination of predators by the 19thC. combined with the clearing of the forests for agriculture and housing. More forage=more deer. Also a decline in hunting. We still have the system where if someone hits one with a car, the cops will distribute the meat to the poor.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  TomA
19 days ago

What! Don’t you believe that Man is different from the animals, created specially by God and therefore not subject to those nasty laws of nature? Adjust as needed for the modern secular religion Egalitarianism and you have an equivalent delusion.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
19 days ago

They should read “The 10,000 Year Explosion”.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Vizzini
19 days ago

Agree. One assumes a needed change to DNA in order to cause a socio-political change downstream. Why not an underlying—existing—DNA proclivity now asserting itself due to environmental change? Epigenetic? Here’s a somewhat similar example. We have several Indian Nations in AZ. Hopi tribe is perhaps the worse people in the world for obesity and diabetes. 200 years ago, they had none of these maladies. What happened? Reservations, change from hunter-gatherer lifestyle, and 20th century processed fatty, sugary faux food. This has been researched, even written about. Last I heard however, those brave enough to research such have been cast into… Read more »

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Vizzini
19 days ago

A lot of evolutionists tend to paint with a broader brush than the paradigm permits. At it’s root, evolution is simply a change in DNA that permanently alters a physical characteristic of a species. By definition, it is not a response to the alteration of an environment. By the most scientific understanding of the term, no political system evolves at all, it simply changes. While evolution is a fascinating scientific concept about the serendipitous alteration of DNA sequences as a result of procreation, it literally is nothing more than that, so extending the concept to sociology, or dating, or politics… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  TomA
19 days ago

Since I’ve broken the taboo and not been banned, I will press my case. If we continue down this road of ever-increasing technology based complexity and faux (read unearned) affluence, the species (in theory) will homogenize into a few archetypes and morph into an insect-like hive model. This will likely include an elite ruling cadre, a sycophant coterie (MSM), an entropic bureaucracy, worker drones, and Jackboots to keep the drones in line. And this change must occur slowly and incrementally lest the peasants revolt when their future becomes apparent.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  TomA
19 days ago

It kind of feels like we are already there.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  TomA
18 days ago

Works for me. Sounds like 1973’s “Hellstrom’s Hive” by Frank Herbert. Got a copy in my library. Have to get it out and revisit it. Then again I’m reminded of Robert A. Heinlein’s sage words regarding specialization                    ; A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization… Read more »

Deshawn
Deshawn
Member
Reply to  TomA
19 days ago

Ah, more evolution cures!

Evil Sandmich
19 days ago

Not too long ago I had a conversation with my sister-in-law where she made a remark like “huh, that cold war was a pretty big deal wasn’t it?” “WTF?”, I thought, but then realized she was just young enough that she didn’t sit through endless nuclear war apocalypse-porn movies (Terminator being perhaps the most well known), school teachers talking about how Reagan was going to blow up the planet, and a legitimate fear that some political situation in within the opaque Soviet government would cause them to pour across the West German border to put an end to their political… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
19 days ago

I think that’s one reason for the growing support for communism and avowed atheism throughout the West. A tail-end Boomer like myself remembers the “Evil Empire” and “godless communism.” Communism’s promises never panned out, what with long lines to purchase consumer goods, gulags and high-ranking individuals fleeing with just the clothes on their backs. There’s more of an obviously racial element involved, as well. Jews have always been heavily involved in communism (Hillaire Belloc called bolshevism “a jewish movement” in his book The Jews), but there are reinforcements coming from other non-White groups. I think that blacks had no interest… Read more »

Vizzini
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
19 days ago

The cancelling of Solzhenitsyn was due to his unmentionable association of Jews with Soviet communism. But what would Solzhenitsyn know about it, right?

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Vizzini
19 days ago

Solzhenitsyn wrote a book Two Hundred Years Together regarding the history of jews in Russia, but it was only partially published in English.

Vizzini
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
19 days ago

Approval required for my comment about the great Soviet dissident? Really?

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Vizzini
19 days ago

Maybe the J word? Moderation filter has been a little touch in the last 72 hours just FYI. I got flagged for some unknown reason in another post so it isn’t just you.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
19 days ago

Don’t have links and details, but quite a few of the more successful blacks (i.e. in movies and education) were very attracted to Marxism in the early years. Check out Paul Robeson. Marxism was/is the product of an aggrieved race so it suits noggers to a T.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  3g4me
19 days ago

Blacks have a natural affinity for prison and plantations, should explain the fondness for communism

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  3g4me
19 days ago

Blacks such as Robeson (huge talent as opera star) were fawned over visiting USSR and shown “Potemkin” villages full of goodies and happy workers — with no racial prejudice! Don’t forget Barack Obama’s mentor/father “figure” was a real commie of the old school and editor of a newsletter directed at communist sympathizers who worked the docks in Hawai’i. Associate of Harry Bridges. Lots of interracial “sexing” went on, too, to break down normal allegiance for one’s own background and they invented the word “racism” to use against anyone who objected to this practice.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  3g4me
19 days ago

The only thing the Nuggras understand about Marxism is that it’s taking from YT and giving to them, and that’s more than enough to inflame their enthusiasm.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
19 days ago

You give too much credit to Marx. What you just described as the basic behavior of One Tribe against another dating back to the dawn of prehistory, in fact that behavior is observed in other primates even up to the present time.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
19 days ago

Marxism is an intellectual justification for what blacks want to do anyway. They don’t want to publicly admit that they are simply greedy and jealous of Whites.

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
19 days ago

“…in the end victory defeated us.” That’s a good way of staying it, Sandmich. It ties in with the point that having a powerful, long term enemy keeps a society sober, focused, and impatient with corrosive nonsense. It keeps decision making in the hands of men, and those generations that are mature and experienced, but still actively engaged in life. That’s the opposite of our present age, governed by the immature (not necessarily young) and those who’ve entered sentimental, even self-centered old age (and soon senility). I would add that the prosecution of the Cold War is also implicated in… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  ChrisZ
19 days ago

I admit that I stole the line from The Dark Knight (“Peace has cost you your strength, Victory has defeated you”): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdM46G984vw
Given the not subtle message of the movie, the line probably means exactly what we think it means.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
19 days ago

For several months I’ve thought the deluge of zombie popular media during the past two decades was predictive programming for Beer Flu.

whitney
Member
19 days ago

I can’t believe Taki was changing your headlines. You’re actually a master of the pithy headline

Suburban_elk
Reply to  whitney
19 days ago

According to Jim Goad, Taki’s daughter is Editor-in-Chief and has a nasty habitat of doing things just like that. (asserting herself, she be)

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Suburban_elk
19 days ago

I dropped Takimag, which I used to enjoy, once the unworthy wench assumed the throne. But I would still drop serious coin on the opportunity for cocktails and stories with Taki himself. He’s the last of a breed.

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
19 days ago

I actually knew, although not well, the original author of the “Bunky Mortimer” column in Takimag; he was so cool, sauve, handsome and full of self-deprecating humor. Passed away a few years’ ago. Big squash player in NYC. Father owned a famous race track in Central FL. Now it’s written by a poser who thinks he can imitate Bunky’s style. Sigh.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Dr. Dre
19 days ago

With you on Bunky. I would have liked to hang out with the right honorable gentleman. I used to play squash. There’s something satisfying about smacking a ball with a racquet, and sometimes your adversary with the racquet. But I quit the club that had the courts once I was mostly just using its restaurant. I like that breed of Taki and Bunky. I’ll do drive-bys to read The Zeeeeeeeee-man. I actually read Z because I like his cat.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
18 days ago

Went to High school with a guy nicknamed “Bunky”. Had him for “home room”. Seems he spent part of his grade school years living next door to the home room teacher. She “outed” him the first time she called roll, “Oh, hi, Bunky.” Poor beggar never lived it down. All the way to senior year people would greet him with, “Oh, hi, Bunky.”
William “Bunky” McQueen, Highlands HS class of 1969

Hun
Hun
19 days ago

This is why it is OK that Trump lost (fair or by cheating, doesn’t matter). He has served his purpose, which was exposing the hatred the elites have for commoners and the complete corruption of the system. There is not much more he would have done over the next 4 years. The enemy owns the system and they are progressing with or without their man the the top political post.
The dissident right now needs reinvigorate itself and take advantage of this exposure.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  Hun
19 days ago

I’m coming around to this view. Everything got worse under Trump, not necessarily his fault, and now we have 2 odious creatures who will inadvertently or maliciously reveal the plot and red pill normiecons whether they like it or not. Plus Trump could actually follow thru with the network rumor which, God willing, isn’t a gatekeeping limited hangout. We’ll know if Z-man and Jared Taylor get their own prime time show.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Hun
19 days ago

One interesting aspect is that Netanyahu congratulated Biden. Trump has since unfollowed Netanyahu on Twitter. The Israel worshipers at FreeRepublic are beside themselves.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  skeptic16
19 days ago

Netanyahu thinks that a Biden-Harris presidency would be better for Israel? It gives the lie that the Democrats are anti-semitic. A few are, but the Party as a whole is staunchly pro-Israel. Democratic politicians are bought just like Republican politicians are. AIPAC would lose influence under the Democrats to JStreet. Either way, Israel always wins.
The Israel worshippers must be torn between their fidelity to the US and what they thought was our bestest friend Israel. They loved Netanyahu, too.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
19 days ago

Trump wouldn’t give him the wars in Syria and Iran that he wants. Look at who’s advising Biden now, and who actively worked to sabotage his reelection. It’s a “who’s who” of Bush-era neocons and Israel-first partisans.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  RoBG
18 days ago

Bingo!!! You nailed the reason why Bibi shanked Trump.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
19 days ago

Netanyahu’s advisors believe Biden-Harris have won and this result will sustain. Trump is yet another has-been to bibi.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
19 days ago

The J own the Democrat party, including the BDS controlled opposition.

They are what I mean when I coyly state “a radical faction takes over control of the traditional majority party”, the point of politics.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
19 days ago

Ilhan Omar is not a representative Democrat. In fact I would Hazard a guess that there is one policy position that she and us would agree on. 😎

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
19 days ago

Layabout, Omar is their creature, lock, stock, and barrel.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
18 days ago

She’s a Muslim first and foremost. Her real loyalty is to the Ummah and not some greasy Jew or some party of stupid rich whites like Pelosi and Whitmer.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  skeptic16
19 days ago

Trump unfollowed both Netanyahu and another Israeli politician. At present, these are the only folks that he has unfollowed and they are both Israelis.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  ChicagoRodent
19 days ago

Used, then under the bus:

Klan (Star Wars stormtroopers, 1912 version)
Temperance ladies
JFK
Unions
Standing military
The USSR
Red Chips (Chinese investment)
Black Civil Rights
GOP neocons

You just can’t maintain a civilization when spoilers are running the show.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
19 days ago

Oops- forgot: the Federal Reserve Note

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Alzaebo
19 days ago

Daylight Savings Time – straight to work and afterwards the darkness

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Hun
19 days ago

He might be more useful as a martyr, I believe this may indeed be his current strategy.

His message changed when the GOP and elites steamrolled him into accepting their campaign professionals.

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  Hun
19 days ago

I thought this the other day, too. Second terms have not been kind to any Presidents I can think of, even if they resulted from landslide victories. Lincoln? Woodrow Wilson? Ike? Nixon? Bill Clinton? I can’t get myself to spit out the name or identifying initial of that jerkwater Baby Bush and his lackluster two-term presidency; last but not least, it was Barack Obama’s second term that made Donald Trump possible, as others have noted. FDR health failings were covered for by the media, much as the situation today. WWII made it unpatriotic to change horses in mid-stream, blah blah,… Read more »

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Dr. Dre
18 days ago

Get this — [FDR] was only in his sixties when he died!
63 to be exact. I was gonna call bullshit but you’re right. FDR was only 63 when he died and barely (March 4 – April 12) that. Damn. He could have easily passed for someone in his 70s. Hell, he wasn’t quite 51 when he first took office. Who says “Only the good die young”?

T. Morris
T. Morris
19 days ago

Say whut?! You do realize that if you refuse to participate in the sham elections, you have no right to complain about anything, right?

Hun
Hun
Reply to  T. Morris
19 days ago

Why? Do you have to take some meth to be able to complain about druggies in the city?

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  Hun
19 days ago

I was just being a wise ass, bro.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  T. Morris
19 days ago

Excuse my density. Sarcasm is sometimes not obvious in written form, though in the context of this blog it should have been…

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  T. Morris
19 days ago

Agreed. Our esteemed blog host has not only missed the mark here, he’s screwed the pooch and shat the bed! If all a vote is, is a flip of the middle finger at Lefty… yeah, I’ll take half a day off work and go down and vote. If all it does is counter some pink haired 400 lb. lesbian‘s vote… it’s a good deal. If all it does is make it harder for some low IQ black baboon work harder to rig the vote…I’m in!👍 Yes, those cretins ARE evil people and we shouldn’t dismiss that or minimize it. They’re… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Glenfilthie
18 days ago

Spot on! Z messed up on this post. Voting does matter at least on the local level. Anything to make the Left work harder, spend more money etc. Is a good thing.
Just sitting at home and doing nothing as Z advocates isn;t a strategy at all. It’s capitulation.
And yeah the DR is merely transistory. It will change as life gets harder for whites.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  T. Morris
18 days ago

I can complain about anything I want to, thank you very much. I don’t need your permission. Besides, ain’t no sense in complaining; ain’t nobody listening anyhow.

Epaminondas
Member
19 days ago

“The people celebrating Biden think they will get reeducation camps and proscription lists, but instead they will end up with a less coherent version of Bush II.”

And just a few hours ago, Bush II called Biden and congratulated him. These people are worse than we CAN imagine.

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  Epaminondas
19 days ago

They’re all part of the same fraternity, man. Which I’m sure you already knew, but I had to say it anyhow.

Funny, though; can’t you imagine Biden receiving that call while having one of his episodes where is brain is starved for oxygen like he’s in the “death zone” on Everest or K2. I don’t know why but thoughts like that come to mind and make me LOL!

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Epaminondas
19 days ago

And these people are all on Team Globohomo, Bush II, Biden, HRC, Romney, etc. Except the normies look at them where they’re all at Bush I’s funeral, for instance, getting along, and say how great it is that they’re not enemies. Yep, working together and cooperating with each other, for more immigration and more outsourcing and more war.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Wolf Barney
19 days ago

And these people are all on Team Globohomo, working together and cooperating with each other, for more immigration and more outsourcing and more war.
stage 1 – turn whole country into california
stage 2 – take guns away
stage 3 – open season on white people(whites better be gone by then)

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  sentry
18 days ago

No place for whites to run anymore. They better grow a spine and cajones if they want to live. Learn to the hunter not the hunted. Remember what AS wrote in the Gulag Archipelago. In portion he talks about if men would simply shoot dead the Commie goons who come to take them away. AS wrote to the effect that if enough people had killed these goons the others would have backed off. In another part he mentions a man who killed a communist guard, took his gun and ammo. Evenutally he killed something like 30 of his pursuers. AS… Read more »

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  sentry
18 days ago

4- replace Alex Trebec with Kunta Kinte

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
19 days ago

Cooperating in the destruction of Western civilization.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Epaminondas
19 days ago

I read that Dick Cheyney has been giving Biden foreign policy advice. That can’t be going over well with the hardcore left. They might move up their timetable on deposing Joe.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Barnard
19 days ago

Steve Sailer talks about the Coalition of the Fringes turning into a circular firing squad. Normie-Dem Biden won’t go nearly as far as AOC, Omar, Tlaib, Pressley etc (the Squad) would like, although I’m sure a Prez Kamala will be satisfactory to them.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Wolf Barney
19 days ago

Seems to me that the circular firing squad aspect of the left, while real, in the sense that cannibalism is a natural attribute of leftism, it seems to fall short of actually helping or advancing the interests of our side. It offers amusement and I suppose a speed brake on the crazy train, but stops short of delegitimizing their grip on actual levers of power. Perhaps its iterative. Like a PCR test. And after 35 years – or maybe generations, it finally flips positive.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Screwtape
19 days ago

Old saying about revolutions eating their children.
Every revolutionary movement is comprised of different factions united against a common foe. When they take over, they will first punish their foes then turn on each other, fighting for dominance.
The French Revolution, the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany and Iran. Even early Christianity was a revolutionary movement.
In this case, they’re not even waiting to vanquish Trump supporters.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Wolf Barney
19 days ago

Ook, an addition to the Squad.

Good catch- they’re soon to make their bid for supremacy, another puppet front for the elites.

Bidenites and BLM are already punching each other.

(Don’t have the clip, but note the black guy punches the antifa when he turns his head.)

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Mark Auld
Mark Auld
Reply to  Alzaebo
19 days ago

The antifa he was actually a she in the report I saw, makes it even sweeter.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Alzaebo
18 days ago

Muzzies are not impressed by our effiminate elites and their lawyers like Podesta. Nor are the hard core Marxists. They will use those elites and then simply take their wealth and power.
That’s what happened with the Roman elite. Once whites are no longer the backbone of the military and it’s full of ethnics they will no longer obey their white masters and that will be that.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
18 days ago

I’m sure a Prez Kamala will be satisfactory to [AOC, Omar, Tlaib, Pressley etc (the Squad)].

Since I figure Kameltoe will have executed her 25thA coup by the end of summer, I figure AOC, Omar, Tlaib, Pressley etc will be happy soon enough.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Barnard
19 days ago

His daughter is gay and the governor of the resource fiefdom he owns, Wyoming, isn’t she?

He’ll be hailed as a convert. Seeing the Light pays! Take note, strivers!

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Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
19 days ago

Liz Cheney is the sole congressional representative for Wyoming. They have only one.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
19 days ago

I used to think the dissidents were too hard on Dubya… but after that… they sure got that one right, I will admit. Unfortunately many of my fellow yesterday men are like that…

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Glenfilthie
19 days ago

As someone who voted for Bush, I’m struggling to come up with a single thing he got right. There’s probably no other figure in my life that I’ve done a bigger 180 on.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  KGB
19 days ago

Yeah I was thinking earlier about how spirited an opinion I had on the Bush vs. Kerry election, what a dolt. Too many years of listening to Limbaugh I suppose…

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  KGB
19 days ago

Same. And I voted for the POS for governor as well. I’ve flipped on Nixon too – my leftist childhood led me to hate him for ‘reasons’; now I despise him for the opening to China, the EPA, etc.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  3g4me
19 days ago

Nixon going to China looks like an all-time horrific decision from today’s perspective.

Bretton Woods is also in the running.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  KGB
19 days ago

It’s worse than merely being mistaken: he lied. There were no high-tech caves in Tora-Bora. There were no WMDs in Iraq (the Niger docs were proved to be forgeries.) The anthrax came from the US, etc. Oh, and it took 14 years for the redacted 28 pages from the JIST report re: Saudi involvement in 9/11 to be released. And people who were at ground zero continue to die horrible deaths after he sent the Whitman woman from the EPA to say the air quality there wasn’t dangerous.

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  RoBG
19 days ago

Whitman, former NJ Governor, like Bush, had large family background with Eisenhower Repubs. Also, were of “elite” social status; same is true of creeps like Robert Mueller. All attended the “best” private schools before heading to the Ivy League. They’re screwed though as these institutions are being sued for systemic racism of one kind or another. They may hate Trump, but their kind will be gone in 20 yrs. and the schools will be unrecognizable if still functioning. Who’s going to contribute to the “Annual Fund” if your grandkids are being replaced by a bunch of Hindoos?

DLS
DLS
Reply to  KGB
19 days ago

Alito is the only thing I can think of, but then he cancelled it with Roberts.

Dr. Dre
Dr. Dre
Reply to  KGB
19 days ago

Hours of my life wasted on campaigning for the idiot in Ohio!

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  KGB
18 days ago

For me Bush II’s sole virtue was that he wasn’t Gore. But then I often approach a ballot decision on the basis of “Who would I shoot last?” Usually they all ought to be shot. I look at the options and vote for the one I’d shoot last. It works for me.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Glenfilthie
19 days ago

I surely was. But, that’s the difference- we have the stones to admit that we were fooled.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Epaminondas
19 days ago

I always thought Bush the Lesser was a decent, moral human being. But then he started palling around with Clinton, and joking about them being brothers. This is a man who likely raped a woman, engaged in routine sexual assault and probably had sex with minors on Epstein’s island. And yet Bush II looked down on Trump as being immoral. Yes, they are worse than we can imagine.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  DLS
19 days ago

Clinton called Bush-the-Elder “Dad.” Clinton was governor of AK during Iran Contra (https://tinyurl.com/y6gz49d3.) I doubt his son ever did anything to contradict his father.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
19 days ago

I can now join with the Dixie Chicks in saying I’m ashamed W is from Texas.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Epaminondas
18 days ago

Indeed those people are far worse than we can imagine. Both had no compunction to send our boys to die in futile wars while they also sold our country to the Chinese. They are Evil.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
19 days ago

Facebook was relentlessly gaslighting about how secure American elections are and suppressing your most basic right-wing memes. Normies are now abandoning Facebook and Twitter for Parler. While not the best choice, and the only good choice will be some sort of blockchain-based censorproof forum, a lot of what Facebook and Twitter are tasked with now is giving legitimacy to an obviously corrupt system. If even your basic civnat is leaving the hostile digital sphere for another, two parallel societies will slowly form. If the rural-urban divide keeps becoming more stratified, people will continue to segregate until a good portion of… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Chet Rollins
19 days ago

Gab is a better alternative than Parler.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
19 days ago

Agreed and I love Torba’s work, but Gab is not normie friendly.

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Chet Rollins
19 days ago

but Gab is not normie friendly.

Why not?

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Federalist
19 days ago

The average user is too hard-right for your average mom with a few kids who is right wing enough to hate Facebook but emotionally not ready for full race-realism.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Federalist
19 days ago

Because normies cannot handle free speech. They want their comfort blanket.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Federalist
19 days ago

So far, a couple stabs at Gab look like Breitbart married Stormfront.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Alzaebo
19 days ago

There are neo-Nazis on Gab and that’s a huge turnoff.

On the other hand, Z posts there, too.

Mockingbird
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
19 days ago

Has anyone heard of a new Faceplant alternative called MeWe? My wife is signing up there, as well as Parler.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mockingbird
19 days ago

MeWe sounds like a nonagenarian urinary accident.

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Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  thezman
19 days ago

Can tell he is (((one))) of them just by looking at his face.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
19 days ago

You’d never guess by his name, though…

Vizzini
Reply to  Chet Rollins
19 days ago

I already find it difficult to believe my local good ‘ol boy rural sheriff will participate in any scheme to round up or disarm dissidents, and the state police simply aren’t capable of going door to door here in the hills, no less the feds. At some point, big parts of the country are already or will become ungovernable by the far-away urban elites. Even stuff like the mask mandates are all but ignored.

Like Soviets, we put on acts of official compliance when The Man is looking our way, but flaunt him in private.

B125
B125
Reply to  Vizzini
19 days ago

Soros will just pick em off 1 by 1 they’ve already proven they can rig any election. Plus refugee resettlement and mass immigration will resume, rigging the vote that way too

Vizzini
Reply to  B125
19 days ago

My entire county has only about 35,000 people but you could lose most big cities within its boundaries. At some point you start to reach “community” level and Soros’ tricks simply won’t work. The sheriff isn’t a personal friend of mine, but there’s only one or two degrees of separation.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Vizzini
19 days ago

Quietly, every white person east of Albuquerque seems to have stopped wearing masks.

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
18 days ago

Come the 20th of January next year that’ll change. Bet on it. Face diapers will have a FEDERAL mandate behind them.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  B125
19 days ago

Soros will just pick em off 1 by 1 they’ve already proven they can rig any election. Plus refugee resettlement and mass immigration will resume,
plus they wanna destroy the economy to get everyone hooked on social credit/food stamps, so that the population can become dependent on the government.

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RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  B125
19 days ago

Think of how uninformed Normie is now. Wait until the next level of internet censorship kicks in.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
19 days ago

We need a smart secession movement. The feds do not have anywhere near enough people to handle more than a small (single digit) percentage not cooperating. Their major means of control is the banking system and, I suppose, the no-fly list.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  skeptic16
19 days ago

It’s going to be barter, bullion, and bills for Red areas going forward.

Cheap and easy air travel will be over.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
19 days ago

“Cash, ass, gas or grass, nobody rides for free.” 😀

Bill Mullins
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
18 days ago

Some State Senator-elect here in Texas has already pre-filed a bill to legalize pot. Me? I just don’t give a damn any more.

Moss
Member
Reply to  skeptic16
19 days ago

All finance, gov regulation / taxation, and insurance are self-enforcing systems entrapping White people. Coupled with the general population’s sheep-like behavior ensures these systems enjoy unchallenged compliance.
I keep expecting the harsh reality of the NOW to shake folks awake. But people love their chains it seems.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Moss
19 days ago

It is telling how the “vote” is like everything else in the end: data. Notice how quickly how the precious kernel of Democracy is reduced to two states of being: media narrative and big data. The story is about the will of the people but the fight will be made into one of data. We don’t own our data. The end. All those votes were googled into property of one corporation or the other. Once cast into the system, digitized into electrons of liberty, the end user agreement says who owns it. The adjudication of what comes next then becomes… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Moss
19 days ago

“You can fall for chains of silver,
You can fall for chains of gold,
You can fall for pretty strangers,
And the promises they hold”
— Dire Straits

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Vizzini
19 days ago

I could force mandatory buyback compliance for any registered gun owner within a few days at max. skeptic, below, mentioned this but didn’t expand on why. 1) Take list of registered firearm owners 2) Take list to banks 3) Tell banks to FREEZE accounts until compliance with new federal law is accepted 4) Cucked and pozzed BLM supporting (((Banks))) gladly comply w/ new federal mandate 5) You are now shut off from your money hence your livelihood. 6) The vast majority of people even ‘muh Constitution’ and ‘muh guns’ are f-cking LARPers who will go along to get along 7)… Read more »

Vizzini
Reply to  Apex Predator
19 days ago

No, I don’t think it sounds far-fetched, at all. I have planned for dealing with that.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Vizzini
19 days ago

When having a “boating accident” with your guns, just make sure they “sink” on someone’s property other than your own.

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Vizzini
19 days ago

Me too. Problem being I am more likely than you are, Vizzini, to use one of my firearms for self-defense given where I live. That’s when my plans break down because I will be sent to die in prison and forfeit my assets for non-compliance. But if I do not use my firearms then what was the point in having them and incurring the associated risks?

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Apex Predator
19 days ago

Apex, I was just about to comment on your post line by line as to why such was unconstitutional and how it would not stand up to judicial scrutiny and such.

Then I caught myself, like an alcoholic almost falling off the wagon. 😉 Then I reminded myself, “This is not 1950! The Constitution is long gone.”

Bad habits are hard to break.

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  CompscI
19 days ago

Compsci, kudos to you for how far you’ve come. You used to respond reflexively in that old fashion (my husband did the same), but you’ve definitely learned. It’s hateful and horrible to have to teach oneself and one’s children that everything is a lie and nothing save God can be trusted, but reality is.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Apex Predator
19 days ago

Just wait until they get rid of cash altogether. They’re already making those noises.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Apex Predator
19 days ago

That is a nasty hypothetical. Let me counter, there are enough people at State and Local level on both sides who would oppose that with succession or force to make that chancy . Besides tools . knowledge to make firearms and already made ammo are easy to get. A homemade suppressed SMG is more effective than an AR in many situations. Not legal so don’t go be making them now but you get the picture If YOU and I mean YOU won’t hunt when people are starving your and your family to death you deserve what you get even if… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  abprosper
18 days ago

Well put.The Feds have no idea of the hornets nest they would kick over by doing such a act,e

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Vizzini
19 days ago

“flout” = to show contempt or disdain; “flaunt” = to show off. Well ok, you can flaunt in private, but no one will notice Actually, you’re not wholly wrong, since to flout implies to openly mock something. Of course the “Wicked government agents will confiscate guns and round up dissidents” is an important plot element in many scenarios, and certainly is possible. However, it is also problematic. All but the craziest tyranny is usually pragmatic. If those in power have what they want (power at least), and the rabble in the hinterlands have guns, so what? Unless they pose some… Read more »

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Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
Reply to  Chet Rollins
19 days ago

Anecdotal, but I am seeing a serious shift in CivNats. My wife and her fellow conservative suburban friends with whom she networks are angry. Until Tuesday, they believed America was good. Now they see something being stolen from them, being covered up by the MSM, and even Fox News turning on them. They are boycotting Fox News, moving off of Twitter and Facebook, etc. Since my thesis is that the ruling class is as incompetent as it is nefarious, I think they have misread things a bit and have overplayed their hand. I think they believed their propaganda organs would… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
19 days ago

They assume American whites are the same as European and Canadian whites. “Official media sources” could declare that the sky is green and Canadian whites would gobble it up.

American whites are the only white population with a critical mass of badwhites (55% in USA, 15% in Canada). When someone is bullshitting me, I say fuck you and point a middle finger right back, and do the opposite just to spite. Stubborn bastards. The elites don’t seem to understand this reaction, or calculate for it.

Charles the Okay
Charles the Okay
Reply to  B125
19 days ago

Seems to be a lot more examples of violent demonstrations in Europe than North America.
When was the last time you had violent demonstrations by whites in the US opposing the elites?
For Europe the answer would be: today.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  B125
19 days ago

Not true at all. The Yellow Vests (Gillete Juanes) rioted and protested on a scale never seen in the US. There were millions of them all over France in the street clashing with police and they were all Les Deplorables not City Commies. There are also as Charles the Okay noted a lot of protests in Europe ongoing right now. Our media ignores this because it doesn’t suit the narrative. The Us doesn’t have any real sense of national identity do to its size and diversity. Even Bad Whites despite decades of WN attempts do not have a monolithic identity.… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Chet Rollins
19 days ago

Hate twitter:
“The J**s understand that if the healthy parts of the country were to separate and form an independent country they would very soon be able to re-take the diseased parts Which is why the J**s will never allow it”

ChicagoRodent
ChicagoRodent
Reply to  Alzaebo
19 days ago

Concur. They want juice and slaves. Once they had achieved this dichotomy they would promptly establish a caste system within juicery until they destroy themselves.

Leonard E Herr
19 days ago

The oscillation increases in both frequency and intensity before the bridge collapses.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Leonard E Herr
19 days ago

Yup, the swings get wider and faster until someone or something steps back to let things settle. In this frenzied age, who is going to step back? In the absence of cooler heads, only a catastrophic collapse of the whole thing will stop the swings, which now appears to be our most likely outcome, IMHO.

Tom K
Tom K
19 days ago

LOL, just got done arguing at another comment board that it’s our DUTY to vote. What I was really doing was trolling a dude over there for reasons I won’t go into here.

I can’t really mount any good reasons for voting, but still, voting furnishes some rooting interest.

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  Tom K
19 days ago

‘There’s nothing so absurd than when you repeat something often enough people begin to believe it.’

You have three minutes to name the author. Ha, ha.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  T. Morris
19 days ago

Time is suspended in the realm of the absurd.
edit: Hold on hold on… the Red Queen.

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Tom K
19 days ago

Here’s my reason

Will voting make the POC go away?

Nope. Ok, so no need to vote then.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Falcone
19 days ago

Just voting with your feet will make POC go away (for now).

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  skeptic16
19 days ago

Them: “Feets, don’t fail me now!”

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Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
19 days ago

The 2016 election was the first time in my lifetime (and maybe the last) that anything even close to the will of the people was addressed in rhetoric, if not in substance. The elite obviously found it horrifying and took steps to prevent a repeat. The few remaining genuinely civic-minded journalists are convinced Silicon Valley overplayed their hand by censoring The New York Post because it’s a 200 year-old newspaper. Big deal. America is a little older than that and it’s toast. They got away with it. Bob is dead. Forget it, Jack. It’s Chinatown.

Shrugger
Shrugger
19 days ago

Presidential elections in the US, fraud notwithstanding, have achieved the stability of a bang-bang servo.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
19 days ago

Yes, this push for everyone to vote is interesting, but it’s related to our deification of democracy. Not voting is like not going to church in a theocracy, and we most certainly life in a theocracy.

51% of the vote = The Truth

But as I pointed out to a relative this weekend, democracy loses its legitimacy (if not its authority) when one group no longer views the entire country’s population as “their” people. At that point, democracy becomes tyranny.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
19 days ago

My TDS bf wasn’t lied to, no, he Believes. Nobody had to fool him.

“Why?” I keep thinking.

Then I noticed:

Hate feels like love to them.

The Inversion. Everything they see in their mind seems to flip upside down. A circuit switch of some kind. It feels right, and good, and can be flipped again at need.

******

It appears virtue signalling is tribalism, the instinct to tribe up, to seek and find birds of a feather. And callous to outsiders or consequences.

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Cameron
Cameron
19 days ago

“Every issue, instead of being a fight between interested parties, is a fight for eternal truth and cosmic justice.”
 
I am right wing because I care about my posterity’s future (and my ancestors’ sacrifice to get me here) not about moral abstractions. E.g. I think abortion is a woman murdering her baby but as an issue it’s low on the list of things that motivate me.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Cameron
19 days ago

OK, what about your people’s posterity? If your people’s women are free to murder their unborn children, will there be a “your people” in the future? Or do you just see your ideal future as your own clan, inbred and alone, on some isolated mountaintop? What is the point of your progeny having a future, if in the process their people die out and leave them to be a hated, hunted minority? Collective defense has as a prerequisite the existence of a collective.

Cameron
Cameron
Reply to  Educated.redneck
19 days ago

Yeah, actually that’s a pretty fair point.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Cameron
19 days ago

I’ll sadly agree to it for those /not us/, so yes, it’s a weapon.

Cameron
Cameron
Reply to  Alzaebo
18 days ago

As a Christian I cannot endorse that for a weapon or otherwise – I’m just saying that as an issue I don’t find it highly motivating.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Cameron
19 days ago

We are poor caretakers. We don’t own what those before us sacrificed to give us, we were supposed to pass it on to those who come after us.