The Lessons Of Trump

An old bit of wisdom is that you should never try to con a con man. This advice is not aimed at con men, of course, but at honest people. Grifters are intuitively dishonest, which means they instinctively work every angle to some advantage. Normal people are simply unable to think like this, even when they are trying to do it. Their scruples get in the way of their scheming. This is something that Trump should have had in mind when he took office four years ago. It was his first mistake.

Trump came to Washington thinking he was smarter, more clever and more resilient than the people he had mocked for so long from his couch. There’s no question that most people in politics are stupid. Without a government grift, they would end up peddling replacement windows door-to-door. But politics in a liberal democracy does not select for smart people. It selects for clever and ruthless people. Washington is the major leagues for the most clever and ruthless.

To his credit, he did outfox them from time to time, but after a while, they began to get the measure of him and figured out how to out-clever him. The FBI scandal is a great example of how they simply outmaneuvered him to delay the process. More important, they got him to drop it as a campaign item. What should have been a key part of his campaign as a populist champion went unmentioned. Time after time Trump tried to play their game and every time he came up a loser.

Similarly, Trump came to Washington under the mistaken impression that his opponents would follow the rules and abide by their own rhetoric. After all, he won the election, the people have spoken, time for the winner to enjoy the fruits of victory. That’s how it is supposed to work in a democratic society. From the very beginning he assumed these people would play fair, despite the fact he knew they spied on him in the campaign and tried hard to cheat him out of his victory.

This is a great example of the civic nationalist disease. This is a malady that is most pronounced in men of Trump’s generation. The civic nationalist loves rules and fully expects his enemies to play by those rules. In reality, the ends justifies the means mentality of the Left has poisoned the entire ruling class. These are people devoid of honor and virtue. Playing by the rules, especially their rules, is a sucker’s play, one Trump never figured out in his four years.

No matter how many times the political class kicked him in the groin, he refused to accept this reality. The strange thing is he campaigned in the most unconventional way, preferring rallies to the formula popular with the political industrial complex. He was a refreshingly unconventional politician in his campaign, but he was thoroughly conventional in his governance. In office, he played by the rules of Washington, while Washington made the rules up as they went along.

Probably his biggest mistake in office was in not seeing the FBI scandal as a purely political affair, rather than a legal one. He was conned into thinking it should be handled by the courts as a criminal matter, when he should have used it as a political hammer to bludgeon official Washington. By the election, all of the classified information should have been leaked and revealed. This would have kept Washington petrified about what he may release if they got too aggressive with him.

This would have fed into the subplot of his campaign. It was always Trump the reformer against the political class. Instead of working with Republicans like he was one of them, he should have treated them as part of the problem. Trump needed to be Harry Truman running against a corrupt establishment. He would have accomplished more and he would have provided a clear reason to support him 2020. Instead he kept trying to be accepted by people who detested him.

Stylistically, Trump the salesman was an amusing bit of comic relief in the 2016 election that probably won him the benefit of the doubt. The trouble was, he kept selling his voters after he had won. The campaign is about promises, while governance is about delivering on those promises. Trump did some good things in office, but he never spoke of them, instead preferring to keep promising to look into new things and maybe do other things. It quickly rang hollow with his voters.

The great lesson to learn from the Trump era is that winning the crowd is useless if you don’t have a plan to put it to some purpose. Trump is not an ideologue, which allows him to be pragmatic. That’s a great asset in politics, as long as you have the secret list in your head of things you want to do in office. This is what makes the Left so powerful as a social force. They never lose focus on their goal. They know why they seek power, so they adapt and keep moving forward.

Trump never seemed to know what he wanted to do in office. Like all civic nationalists, he has this vague notion in his head of what America should be, but he was never able to translate it into policy. The closest he came was the many administrative changes made to the immigration process. He never spoke of those, because like all civic nationalist, he preferred to dream of the mythological America where everyone happily abides but the rules of the republic.

There are many other things that can be put in the list of mistakes by Trump over the last four years, but the overriding theme is this. Trump never rose above the petty and practical to grasp his historical moment. Like everyone else is Washington, he had no vision of the future. As a result, he got bogged down into the swamp he promised to drain, playing petty politics, squabbling over small issues. The moment called for a man of vision, but instead got a pitchman from Queens.

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Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
18 days ago

Sometimes the con men go too far. Real Clear Politics just announced Pennsylvania up for grabs. This isn’t over.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
18 days ago

It ain’t over by a long shot. Nevada, AZ, GA, and NC are heading to the Trump column. If PA flips, Trump wins. The problem Biden has there is that a state judge took it on himself to illegally change the election rules to allow ballot counting after election day. Only the state legislature is allowed to write the election laws in PA. Judge Alito is very interested in this. Throw in the statistically impossible idea that 700,000 ballots have magically shown up for Biden and you begin to see the staggering scale of this fraud. GOP observers were physically… Read more »

Last edited 18 days ago by Epaminondas
Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Epaminondas
18 days ago

Kunstler:
Then there are the janky numbers in all those other states where the Dominion vote tabulation software was used: 130,000 here… 27,000 there… et cetera. By the way, the company that puts out this Dominion product is partly owned by Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein’s husband, Richard C. Blum; one of its top executives is Nancy Pelosi’s former chief-of-staff; and the software’s development was funded by the Clinton Global Initiative in 2014.”

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Alzaebo
18 days ago

I’m shocked, SHOCKED to find that gambling is going on in here! Your winnings sir – oh, thank you very much…

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Alzaebo
18 days ago

You know how they always call Trump supporters “inbred”? One of the real finds of this whole RussiaGate/UkraineGate/BallotGate mess is how literally incestuous the Swamp is. There is apparently only a very tiny number of “qualified” people in DC and so they all wind up working for each other, just by coincidence. Mueller hires 14 lawyers and 12 are Democrat operatives. Trump appoints Barr as AG, whose father just happens to have given Epstein his start. Etc. So of course the ballots are counted by software funded by the Clintons, written by Pelosi’s chief of staff and owned by Feinstein’s… Read more »

krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  Epaminondas
18 days ago

if SCOTUS rules in Trump’s favor – there will be a mass dox of the justices.

Last edited 18 days ago by krustykurmudgeon
ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
18 days ago

That would be fun. Especially for J.Roberts.

Doubt it will happen though. If anything would make the public reconsider Marbury v. Madison from 1803, SCOTUS ruling in Trump’s favor would do it.

They know it, too. Andrew Jackson was the only President wily enough to take on SCOTUS and win. (“The court has made their decision, now let them try to enforce it”)

Last edited 18 days ago by ProZNoV
James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  ProZNoV
18 days ago

What Trump, being a “boss,” never understood, but workers do, is that it’s unwritten rules that make organizations work. Hence, the use of “work to rule” as a strike technique: Hey, we’re just following your rules to the letter, boss.” Marbury only works because everyone pretends they have to follow it; if they ignore it, it becomes a dead letter. Bush tore up the Constitution with the Patriot Act and, as Dole would say, where’s the outrage? Bush was right to call the Constitution “a goddam piece of paper.” It only has as much say in things as people give… Read more »

Vald
Vald
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
18 days ago

Best if it doesn’t go to SC. Most muscular, physical win possible is the best win. As we descend into the misty depths it’s good for normal ppl to feel they can overpower lefty thru thumotic effort w/o relying on the courts.

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  Vald
18 days ago

Kudos for “thumotic”!

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
18 days ago

Scalia didn’t suffocate himself with that pillow.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Educated.redneck
18 days ago

I’ve been told his dying wish was “Ummpphhhh. Mpphh. Mmmupppphh!”

We must respect this. Because RGB.

Eral T
Eral T
Reply to  ProZNoV
17 days ago

Translated, it means, “Hang the Idiot proggies from a Lampost!”

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
18 days ago

Maybe. Maybe not. I imagine even a Wise Latina would rather be the one stalwart holding back the barbarian Trump at cocktail parties than one of a 100 judges, sort of a super junior congresswoman.
Ginsburg did not resign even when it was wise to her side — she liked the attention and power too much.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Epaminondas
18 days ago

Five conservative justices? Did we already replace John “Compromat” Roberts?

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Educated.redneck
18 days ago

Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanagh, Barrett.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Epaminondas
18 days ago

truly hope you are right.

WCiv...---...
WCiv...---...
Reply to  Epaminondas
17 days ago

PA Governor? Democrat.
Philadelphia mayor? Democrat.
District Attorney of Philadelphia? Democrat.
PA Attorney General? Democrat.
Philadelphia City Council? Democrat.
PA Supreme Court? Democrat.
Last Republican mayor Philadelphia? 1952.
Philadelphia, a sanctuary city, has had over 400 murders this year.
Moving to Philly? Caveat Emptor

Rhodok
Rhodok
Reply to  Wolf Barney
18 days ago

With Trump, it usually pays to wait a couple of days to see what happens.

Mitch McConnell is now backing Trumps fraud claims. He would not have done so if Trump had nothing to show for it.

Who outconned who is still unclear imo.

miforest
Member
Reply to  Rhodok
18 days ago

mitch know that without the trump supporters he loses both Georgia runnoffs . he has sabotaged trump for 4 years, but he has to look for like he is helping.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Rhodok
18 days ago

In regards to M. McConnell

“Listen, I’m a politician, which means I’m a cheat and a liar, and when I’m not kissing babies I’m stealing their lollipops. But it also means I keep my options open

From the Hunt for Red October

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
18 days ago

As our esteemed blog host says – the left is focused while we are not. Trump had many weaknesses and we need to look in the mirror: I don’t think he got all the support from us that he could have. Even if we’d had is back and supported him 110%… we’d still end up here. Like it or not, roughly half the nation still thinks we’re nazis, and they themselves are angels. Focus. Half the country hates you. They can’t be trusted to run an honest election. They can’t balance a cheque book. Most of them are employed by… Read more »

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
18 days ago

“Most of them are employed by gov’t, and dedicate their working lives to put public sector citizens out of business or harassing them with needless bureaucracy.” 

I believe you intended to write “private sector”. If so, you’re entirely right!

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Montefrío
18 days ago

Oops… my bad. Thanks for the catch M!!!

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Glenfilthie
18 days ago

Most don’t even know what a checkbook is. They pay with (your) credit cards, or EBT.

Last edited 18 days ago by BadThinker
Rhodok
Rhodok
Reply to  Glenfilthie
18 days ago

I don’t know about “focus”.

imo “The right wing” in general is a negative identity. It self identifies as non-left. That is a major problem.

diconez
diconez
Reply to  Rhodok
18 days ago

so let’s reverse it.
characterize the left as the weirdos and the right as the normals.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Glenfilthie
18 days ago

Even if we’d had is back and supported him 110%… we’d still end up here.

That’s because if we go 110%, Dems find 115%.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Glenfilthie
18 days ago

Look if half the nation hated Trump and us there would be no reason for the Dems to commit voter fraud on a massive scake,
Most of the Left’s base is upper class whites who are also compose most of the fanatics and shit stirrers. Heck they are so few of them they depend on Blacks and Mexicans to get enough votes. Even then it’s not enough hence the endemic fraud.

Corn
Corn
Reply to  Wolf Barney
18 days ago

I don’t have much faith in the voting system, nor do I have much faith in the Supremes not to cuck out. But you’re right. Not over til it’s over

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Corn
18 days ago

Or the state legislatures that’ll have to “overturn” the media’s call. You know someone will be whispering in their ears “do you realize if you invalidate the election “results”, cities will burn and many will die. Do you want all that on your hands? Better just go along, or else”. There’ll probably have to be a LOT of brass balls to make things right.

mikeski
Member
Reply to  usNthem
18 days ago

Fiat justitia ruat caelum.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  mikeski
18 days ago

Semper en Excreta.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  usNthem
18 days ago

What’s busted on a little election fraud compared to being outed for whole terms of villainy, crime and sedition?

Pete
Pete
Reply to  usNthem
18 days ago

True, but then we’re in a holding pattern of “Let us win every election or we burn down cities” forever.

Festus
Festus
Reply to  usNthem
18 days ago

What would scare them more is “do you realize if you support the media’s bogus call you will never win an election the rest of your life”

These GOP state legislatures know if they screw Trump over it will the end of all their political careers. It’d be the end of the GOP as a party actually.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Festus
18 days ago

While painful in the short term, it might actually be in our best longterm interest if the GOPe sells Trump down the river and permanently alienates 20% of their base. GOP will splinter and the actual right will have a chance for something new.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Educated.redneck
18 days ago

It would be far more than 20%. Of those who voted for Trump, I dare say that close to 80% are more loyal to Trump than to the GOP. If the GOP subverts Trump’s attempts to reverse the coup, he could easily destroy the GOP by creating a third party. And I wouldn’t put it past him to make that very threat. Hell, I would. But if Trump does go down that road, I hope he sleeps in Kevlar and builds a moat filled with Great Whites around the White House.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
18 days ago

It is high time we decentralize DC. Maybe the executive branch can move to Missouri or Kansas. Fort Knox seems to be in line with Trump’ style….
But as for the splintering, the problem is the state and locals. A separate national party might form, but for most counties and states it would still be red spy v blue spy. It would be enlightening to see what local or state parties dump the GOP and turn into the MAGA Party.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Educated.redneck
17 days ago

No, that’s just spreading evil around.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
18 days ago

I’d follow it, even knowing Trump is wholly flawed.

Teddy R all over again.

Eral T
Eral T
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
17 days ago

He sleeps in kevlar now, so no big deal!
Doesn’t Mar Lago alredy have a moat? Hell, it’s in FLA which is already half underwater!

Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  Educated.redneck
18 days ago

Win by loosing. Isn’t that the principled Republican strategy?

Eral T
Eral T
Reply to  Spin geraht
17 days ago

For RINOs it’s lose by losing bigly, even when you got a great shot to win! (Then sneak over to “K” street and take that $750K/yr. lobbying job you were promised!)

Member
Reply to  Festus
18 days ago

I think even a lot of the smarter cowards, cucks, and traitors, whether Dems or GOP, may start to realize that their treason has actually gone a bit too far this time and that they are in a tighter spot than they think. In other words, maybe there’s something to this 4-D chess stuff after all. If it turns out that the evidence of fraud is overwhelming and they still decide to fink on Trump they avoid rioting by the usual suspects in the cities. On the other hand, people on the Right, and not just us “Nazis” are really… Read more »

Eral T
Eral T
Reply to  pozymandias
17 days ago

There’s over 8,000 counties in this country. DEMs only win about 30-40 or so; but those 30-40 are huge in population. As on wag said, “There are NO Blue States, just Red States with big Blue Cities!”

diconez
diconez
Reply to  usNthem
18 days ago

fair enough about the extortion threat from antifa to burn it all down… but, if those same red state legislatures allow the national guard in their states as soon as they invalidate the 700k fake votes, then we could avoid a floydian winter without as much damage to normal people. if anything, this chance could be used to crack open enough soy skulls. obviously, assuming everyone does the right thing.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  diconez
18 days ago

The problem is the rot at the head. What if Trumpists get all Francoist up in here, but the DoD brass turns against America and sides with the globalists? You think that pudgy Ukrainian colonel or Maddog “Sedition” Mattis is going to order a wiff of grapeshot for the joggers – or to round up muh not-sees? If the spicytimes are upon us, pray that the *.mil boys stay home.

Eral T
Eral T
Reply to  Educated.redneck
17 days ago

Pentagon brass is already sorted into pro- and anti-Trump; Obama saw to that.
Question comes down to who has the favor of the troops?
That $500 billion pay-off to blacks was aimed in a big way to those boys in the military, not just the street riff-raff.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Corn
18 days ago

No matter, I all accrues to the cause. Win/lose the process is under scrutiny. Normie wakes…and seethes.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Corn
18 days ago

Don’t underestimate the SCOTUS members of all political stripes chucking this to Biden no matter if a mountain of evidence points otherwise. If they think that their reputations as the high priests of the republic will suffer from ruling for Trump, they will place their position above any one man. Besides, if their ruling is unpopular with TPTB in D.C., who will ever invite them to all the societal shindigs again? I’m convinced, voting and legal wrangling are dead ends. Blood is the only way anything changes I fear.

Eral T
Eral T
Reply to  Corn
17 days ago

“If voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it.”
said some wag, reputed to be Mark Twain!

Orpheus13
Orpheus13
Reply to  Wolf Barney
18 days ago

And if all else fails and the courts and the rinos finally go along with the coup and cheat the American people once again (who here is certain that the recount and judicial process will be truly fair and transparent?)…. …Trump can and should rise to the occasion. He should prove once and for all that he is a real defender of his people and a man up to the task that History has set upon him. He should declare that, in the light of the monstrous and overarching conspiracy involving foreign and domestic agents set up to subvert the… Read more »

Last edited 18 days ago by Orpheus13
CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Orpheus13
18 days ago

All would depend on the military. All recent comparisons depended on an *existing* force in place to back up the would be “strong man” authoritarian. Sometimes it’s a general in current command. Sometimes it’s an organized and functioning militia. Not sure Trump can call upon either force. I’d bet he’d simply be arrested by Secret Service in his bedroom on inauguration day.

Orpheus13
Orpheus13
Reply to  CompscI
18 days ago

Yes, of course, because if Trump decides to start the second civil war he´ll do so from the Oval Office and then stay in the middle of the Swamp with his routine and security detail unchanged for several weeks without taking any particular precautions. This instead of, for instance, finding safe haven weeks in advance amongst his people and partisans in the depths of the blood red ocean between the two blue coasts after having made sure he already has a solid core of 1000´s of armed people ready to die for the cause and securing a perimeter 300 miles… Read more »

Last edited 18 days ago by Orpheus13
Eral T
Eral T
Reply to  Orpheus13
17 days ago

AS noted above, there are NO Blue states. Only Red states within which are located Blue cities!. Cities are dependent on everyplace else for food and fuel!

Sure PA has fracking but all the refineries are in the South in Red areas and those boutique farms in the NE have run into winter right about now!

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Orpheus13
18 days ago

With the still sitting President and his apparatus behind them

What apparatus? The one that has been stabbing him in the back the past four years?

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  c matt
18 days ago

Think much the same of the “Declassify Everything!” crowd.

No 3-letter agency is going to stick their neck out for an outgoing President, no matter what legal authority he has to do it.

Orpheus13
Orpheus13
Reply to  c matt
18 days ago

What apparatus? I don´t know, billions of dollars, the nuclear football (at least for some time until (((they))) deactivate it), great pompadour hair, the loyalty of every single truly patriotic American (including active duty personnel with access to some serious hardware and even some deep state patriots, yes) many of whom are not of the Dissident Right but share the same enemies and are eager and willing to die in order to cleanse the scourge infecting their nation, the diplomatic recognition of dozens of countries, access to top secret files, Putin´s phone number, and last but not least, Melania´s pretty… Read more »

Last edited 18 days ago by Orpheus13
Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Orpheus13
18 days ago

This is the most seditious episode we’ve had in quite sometiem!

Member
Reply to  Orpheus13
18 days ago

In the eventuality that there’s good evidence of fraud and the courts and legislatures sell him out anyway, I’m actually giving this a fair chance of happening. It’s not that I think Trump will even need to have great courage to do this. All he really needs is the realization that he’s pretty old and his enemies will want him dead or in prison after this anyway. I suspect Trump is one of the people who knows what really happened to Epstein. He knows what these mofos are capable of. Why not just roll the dice, invoke the Insurrection Act,… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  pozymandias
18 days ago

Of course the courts and the legislatures are going to sell Trump out. They will make some noises like they are doing their job, let it all go, and say that things were not right, but the proof of wrongness came in just slightly under some threshold of doing something about it. Bank on it.

Member
Reply to  Dutch
18 days ago

I’m sure that will be the first instinct of most of these swamp things that roam the halls of power these days. I wonder how many will reconsider if they fully understand the potential chaos they could be unleashing if they go through with essentially the complete discrediting of US elections. The rank and file Lefties may believe in all that shit about minorities, wammen, etc… The swamp creatures mostly just believe in their own power and comfort. If they need to, they may well be willing to throw Antifa under the bus (or the tank treads as the case… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  pozymandias
18 days ago

Yeah, and many right wingers have awakened… I’m seeing lots of pissed of normiecons and boomers. If right wing rage ever grows into action it will be so severe and destructive that the USA would be torn apart, literally. The elites are playing with fire, I’m not sure if they realize it.

While the left has tempter tantrums, the right wingers moderate themselves. Deep down we know what we’re capable of and would rather not have to do it. Our leftist opponents are not even impoverished desperate people like in russia.

Member
Reply to  B125
18 days ago

This is actually what I was hinting at above. As it stands we in the DR are used to the idea that the Constitution is dead. There are millions of normiecons and 2A types though who are going to be genuinely outraged and are not yet as cynical as we are about the system.

Member
Reply to  Orpheus13
18 days ago

Duplicate post removed.

Last edited 18 days ago by pozymandias
Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  Orpheus13
18 days ago

Well said.

Eral T
Eral T
Reply to  Orpheus13
17 days ago

Just what “strategic advantage” do the Orcs hold?
That Pentagon crew, generals and admirals, in place after the Obama Purge were mostly “STAFF” officers who play palace intrigue games and suck cock to advance their careers!
The real military is run at a lower level by Colonels and Commanders with field commands or ship command; I’d bet a good portion of them would go Trump!

Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
18 days ago

I was pleasantly surprised this morning to see the news from PA. Trump may yet have the Trump card it seems! This would also be an optimal outcome for those of us who enjoy the Schadenfreude of Lefty freakouts. Oh, they will be so butthurt…

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  pozymandias
18 days ago

It will be the greatest shitshow in world history.

B125
B125
Reply to  Epaminondas
18 days ago

Leftists would actually burn their own cities to the ground lol

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  B125
18 days ago

What else is new?

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Epaminondas
18 days ago

can’t wait for Trump to kickstart the rallies again

No holds barred total mayhem, and the Left is going to freak

and now he has actual Biden policy to lambaste. Paris, Iran, brining on McCain’s wife. Not sure the Left is going to like that one. She’s a war whore

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Falcone
18 days ago

… can’t wait for Trump to kickstart the rallies again No holds barred total mayhem, and the Left is going to freak That’s a tempting idea. He is the president till late January (at least) and no one can stop him from launching rallies again. With evidence of vote counting fraud, he will have a momentous, emotionally strong pitch to deliver instead of the pre-election campaign’s mumbling about “lowest black unemployment ever.” It might work if Trump can understand the dynamics at play. But as our host says, he has not succeeded in the past four years at thinking big.… Read more »

maxsnafu
Member
Reply to  Gravity Denier
18 days ago

“lowest black unemployment ever.”
I wish he was as concerned about White unemployment. Between that and letting blacks out of federal prisons he ended up trading a lot of White male votes for a few minority votes. Democrats probably think that was, for them, a pretty good deal.

Meliss
Meliss
Reply to  maxsnafu
18 days ago

Maybe he could’ve won over more White male votes if he’d bragged about “lowest jogger/blackity black unemployment”. Kushner should have tuned in to Mr. Derbyshire.

Member
Reply to  Falcone
18 days ago

Biden may go down in history as the first American President to start a war before even taking office and then never actually taking office on top of that whether due to the court rulings, his health, or Kamala’s pillow, which I’m sure she’s been practicing with.

Vad
Vad
Reply to  Epaminondas
18 days ago

Best outcome is if the left tries violence and gets shut down. That will boost the right wing’s confidence moving forward to future match-ups.

Worst outcome is if right instigates violence AND loses.

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miforest
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
18 days ago

Everyone involved in these shenanigans should be worried. the public is aware of what went on . The GOP was stupid as usual. It is clear they were in on it. that’s why the bad vote in Michigan were marked biden instead of democrat straight ticket. then price for GOP going on alon was the dems wouldn’t mess with other races. but once the dems had the trump votes in the system, they brought in votes for the down ticket races . brilliant really, what are the gop gonna do, say ” but we had a deal!” . that is… Read more »

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B125
B125
Reply to  miforest
18 days ago

If Trump doesn’t get back in, the GOP will never win another race at any level, in any state.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  B125
18 days ago

Trump and our Achilles Heel is that federal elections depend on state and local processes. Let the states do whatever they want to run an election for the people in the state, but depending on this fraud-ridden process for federal positions (Pres/VP/Senate/H of R) is ludicrous. For those offices, a federal ballot, process, and monitoring should be in place, nationwide. But, yeah, I’m just pissing into the wind here.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Dutch
18 days ago

Or just go go back to early days. I think each State Legislature voted for Pres. and VP, why not also U.S. Reps and Senators? State can have as corrupt a State governemnent as it wishes, and send the reps the honchos choose.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Wolf Barney
18 days ago

Yeesh. I just realized what the quip “…to just leave him swinging in the breeze…” refers to.

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Archer
Reply to  Wolf Barney
17 days ago

Does Trump winning really matter? He is a long way from being effective. The Left believes winning is all that matters. So-called conservatives believe in the rule of law. If the left loses, there will be another public distraction, like RussiaGate.
just look at what is happening to Kyle Rittenhouse. No criminal history, willingly surrendered to the police, and yet he has a $2m bail, in a case of self-defense. Why is the Democratic Mayor of Kenosha or the Democratic Governor of Wisconsin not brought up on charges for endangering public safety for failing to quell the riot?

One of Many Georges
One of Many Georges
18 days ago

I still feel like they might have threatened him with something. Like they really do have pictures of him doing something, or they told him that they would ruin his kids. How else can you explain how he just totally abandoned his signature 2016 campaign issue, immigration, when he really had serious mojo after the election? Another possibility is that he didn’t really want to be president, that running was just something to boost his career, and that he expected to lose, like Pat Sajak or something. Then when he actually won he was happy to engage in pro-wrestling style… Read more »

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
Reply to  One of Many Georges
18 days ago

“he kept trying to be accepted by people who detested him”

This is the conservative disease, right there. One of the reasons that Trump was successful at times was that he actually suffered from this syndrome far, far less than most Republicans. Trump most certainly has his limitations, but compared to your average Republican, he’s a combination of Patton, Tailgunner Joe, and Bolsonaro.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Altitude Zero
18 days ago

I think it’s more accurate to say the conservative disease is continuing negotiate and operate in good faith after your opponent has made it clear that are acting in bad faith. It seems like conservatives believe that the federal system of government has such a robust organization that it automatically precludes bad-faith efforts from succeeding by the nature of the structure of government itself.

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
Reply to  Drew
18 days ago

One of the problems that the US in general,and Republicans in particular have, is that our Founders did such a good job writing our constitution (yeah, it had its faults, but it took the Left over 200 years to destroy), our continent is so rich, our people so generally competent and hardworking, and our military so powerful, our “leaders”have gotten used to the idea that they can get away with being stupid, and profligate,and not pay any price. They will be disabused of this idea in the very near future.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Drew
18 days ago

I think you are giving most conservatives way too much credit, at least the politician and mainstream pundit ones. These guys know their roles, and they play them without deviation. The Washington Generals, in the end, also get paid.

B125
B125
Reply to  One of Many Georges
18 days ago

Trump did do ok on immigration,he gutted the refugee program, and allowed communities to veto resettlement. The number of international “students” is dropping. In fact total immigration is dropping too. 400 miles of improved wall have bern built.

Keep in mind that nearly every single person in Congress wants completely open borders.

Z has gone over this before. You can’t just stop it all at once, realistically. Trump is not a 14 guy. But starting the process of slowing it down is important.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  B125
18 days ago

Killed federal level Critical Race Theory classes as well, which is an existential threat to Western Civilization.

Imagine, for a moment, being unable to sit on a jury because you’re white/male/hetero and the defendant is black/female/homo. Imagine the reverse not being true.

Imagine engineering and medical degrees being awarded based on race/class/identity affiliation instead of merit.

Scary stuff.

B125
B125
Reply to  ProZNoV
18 days ago

Canceling CRT is enough to gain my complete support.

Some hardcore dissidents want President Richard Spencer running with VP Hitler. Guess what it’s not happening.

Trump is the best thing to happen to us for a long time. We need to not be dependant on the system, we know trump is not a savior. But there is a guy working the system somewhat to our favour while redpilling normiecons, and we should support him, while still focusing on our thing.

Amox
Amox
Reply to  ProZNoV
18 days ago

It’s coming right back under Joe Biden. Maybe winning the election was more important than owning the libs over Covid? Well, that’s the hill you wanted to die on. You got your wish. Conservatives have NO ability to think critically, plan ahead, or rank priorities and act upon that priority ranking.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  B125
18 days ago

imagine how big of a cuck a “white nationalist” has to be to prefer biden after what trump did against immigration.
i can almost hear them sniveling about trump lowering black unemployment, now that trump won’t offend their sensibilities any longer they can have fun with the migrants.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  B125
18 days ago

The latest numbers available for student visas is that there’s been a 1.7% decrease for F-1 & M-1 and a 1.7% increase in J-1. Full report here: https://www.ice.gov/doclib/sevis/pdf/sevisBTN2019.pdf
For most other categories the most recent numbers are from FY18.
Here’s the southern border #s https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
MPP (remain in Mexico) has been effective against Central Americans, but doesn’t apply to Mexicans, UACs, or extra-continentals who are still getting in. https://tinyurl.com/y464fvts

DLS
DLS
Reply to  B125
18 days ago

He got Mexico to stop the caravans as well.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  One of Many Georges
18 days ago

Maybe he was a globalist plant from the beginning, meant to corral nationalist voters into a safe space, keeping them away from actual nationalists? As someone noted downthread, Trump got all the downsides of playing the nationalist, but none of the upsides, i.e. the votes in pandering directly to white Americans.

Granted, it doesn’t make much sense, since there was no credible nationalist candidate on the Cuckservative shortlists, but nothing much about Trump makes sense.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Felix Krull
18 days ago

No. Trump is just an old-fashioned CivNat, a man of his time living in a new time.

We’ll never be saved via the system anyway, but it was fun to watch Trump.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Felix Krull
18 days ago

Trump is a Civ Nat nationalist, typical of his era

My dad is exactly the same.

Yes, there is some overlap with us, the more “hardcore” nationalist types, but there is also a lot of the civ nat stuff.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  One of Many Georges
18 days ago

I only hate communists and mooslems so I can’t hate Trump. I never expected the perfect president, leader or even man. I only expected him to do everything opposite what the Democommies would do. I was not disappointed so far.

maxsnafu
Member
Reply to  One of Many Georges
18 days ago

Maybe he wasn’t really serious about the positions he took in 2016.

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
18 days ago

He kept giving tax cuts and economic perquisites to people who naturally would devote all of their resources to destroying him. He was never as rich as he pretended to be (he even made sure this was a no-go zone during his television roast) but if you make the measure of a man merely his net worth, then you find yourself forced to look up to a strange little walleyed homunculus like Jeff Bezos or even worse, the ectomorphic extraterrestrial boy-child Mark Zuckerberg. Making manhood about martial glory was the typical method, but when instead of a caparisoned steed you… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Joey Jünger
18 days ago

True, but the part of the tax bill that was most widely despised was the one that benefitted the country and nationalists the most: the reduction of the corporate tax rate from one of the world’s highest to an acceptable level. Corporations, to the surprise of many, came back and employed Americans. Of course, this will be the first thing Biden will attempt to undo if he is able. The second most despised section of that bill also was important for National Populists. Capping property tax deductions for the uber rich in Blue cities and states was a very good… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Jack Dobson
18 days ago

Exactly, affluent white liberals in blue states ended up paying 10,000s more per year in taxes. Of course that just meant more of them fled to red states.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  B125
18 days ago

Affluent White conservatives in blue states ended up paying 10Ks more in taxes too. We do exist. But small price to pay for sticking it to the preening gutless progs I guess. Plus Oregon is gonna miss those tax $s when we leave the state next year. We have prog neighbor who built up a business over 40 years in Portland which was wiped out by onerous and punitive regulations. They did everything “right”: sustainable this and that, high wages, virtue signaling about all the acceptable things and still they got fucked. And they are STILL shitlibs. Unless one lives… Read more »

maxsnafu
Member
Reply to  Peabody
18 days ago

What you are describing should be fertile ground for some curious young psychiatrist.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Peabody
18 days ago

Oh, I understand. I’ve spent most of my life in academia, which is the very engine of Leftist irrationality.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  B125
18 days ago

Well, if they fled to Texas, they were up for a rude awakening. Texas does not have an income tax, but it screws you over with property tax. California, even though (because?) it has an income tax actually does two things that make property tax lower – (1) their rates are almost half of most Texas areas, and (2) you are taxed based on the value of the property when purchased. Texas taxes you on “appraised” value every year, which is total BS and a license to steal. This allows them to raise taxes every year without raising the rate,… Read more »

exfarmkid
exfarmkid
Reply to  Jack Dobson
18 days ago

How many trillions are floating around the tax-free world of the foundations? I like the thought of that!

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  exfarmkid
18 days ago

Harvard has $40billions in endowments;
it’s time to use that to pay down students’ debt.
Federal legislation would be needed to enable that, or maybe just a handful of lawsuits claiming a defective product was sold to students. The courts may be an easier path than legislation.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
18 days ago

The tax exempt aspect needs to be limited and tied into abandonment of AA and quotas. But that will never happen.

maxsnafu
Member
Reply to  CompscI
18 days ago

Affirmative Action is here to stay.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  maxsnafu
18 days ago

Just until blacks see a 15 point increase in their collective IQs.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  exfarmkid
18 days ago

Yep, those foundations must be destroyed. Example, Gates Foundation. Folks keep thinking Gates is like one of the top richest people in the world. BS, he sold/donated his MS stock, years ago. Guess where his gazillions are—Gates Foundation. He now runs the Gates Foundation where he funds his mischief from. He discovered how to have his cake and eat it too. Little different than the Clinton “Foundation” in function.

Corn
Corn
Reply to  Jack Dobson
18 days ago

Thanks for reminding me of the good things about Trump’s tax bill. That being said, I think he got too little in return for it. IMO, Trump’s first year in office he should have told Congress he wanted three things:— A border wall — Mandatory E-Verify — Some sort of revenue tariff If I get those he should have told the Congressional GOP, we’ll tinker with taxes. He didnt do that though. He went tor taxes before immigration and trade, and not only Democrats opposed him, but I think many in the Congressional GOP felt little incentive to support him… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Corn
18 days ago

Trump was the one who backed down on E-verify.
(Reportedly on Jared’s advice.) https://tinyurl.com/yxfa2vo6

maxsnafu
Member
Reply to  Corn
18 days ago

In other words, he governed like a garden variety Republican. Even sucked up to Israel by moving the embassy.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
18 days ago

MAGAs, including many dissidents who frankly should know better, are having trouble accepting what’s happened in a way not seen since Germany 102 years ago this week.

Yes, November Criminals exist, but let’s not pretend the MAGA army was making an orderly retreat to the Hindenburg Line.

Trump lost, as I said he would, for the reasons Z outlined above, and also because he pandered to people that hated him. Had he pandered to his base instead, he’d have won.

Credit to Z for moving on.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  thezman
18 days ago

It used to be gospel that we weren’t voting our way out of this.

Guess that’s no longer a thing.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  MemeWarVet
18 days ago

You could try shitposting another prez into office. Oh wait…

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  MemeWarVet
18 days ago

Yes, there does appear to be a contradiction there. None-the-less, we have enough brain power in his group to entertain such ideas and move forward. Two opposing ideas does not cause lockup. We are not computer programs.

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  MemeWarVet
18 days ago

Nobody likes being robbed.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
18 days ago

True. But race traitors seem to enjoy being mugged by Nuggras.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  MemeWarVet
18 days ago

We aren’t voting our way out of this. That’s the point. We just got reminded of that. No matter what Trump did or didn’t do, or how he governed, and no matter how many votes he could have racked up, the Left was going to cheat themselves to a higher count (they even still have NC, GA, and NV waiting in the wings now, if necessary). If Trump had done some things differently, he might have more fervid support right now. But overcoming the vote fraud was never going to be possible, this time around. They would have gone to… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
18 days ago

That’s not the issue. The perfidy of the Power Structure is.

Nathan
Nathan
Reply to  thezman
18 days ago

Humorously, the people hooting about “light switch brain” are the worst offenders of it. Of course, those people never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.”
speaking of “light switch brains”, I listened to the sour patch kid’s Sunday podcast. They are deep in celebration over a Trump defeat. The smugness was off the charts, even by their elevated standards. For people who have accomplished nothing in their lives, they sure are convinced of their superiority. A really loathsome duo.

krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  Nathan
18 days ago

I like Jazz and James sort of bitter humor.

Barn Jollycorn
Barn Jollycorn
Reply to  thezman
17 days ago

Z, do you think that the Dems would have stolen the election no matter what Trump had done? Can you envision a scenario where they would have simply shrugged their shoulders and said, “nah, Trump is too popular, we can’t steal this one.”
It’s a coup, Z. You seem to be engaged in eliding that central fact.
You are saying, “yeah, there was fraud, but Trump was a flawed guy, so let’s move on.”
Are you not saying that exact thing?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
18 days ago

 It was his first mistake. His first mistake was when, in a post-election interview with Leslie Stahl after he won, Trump told her he would not pursue Hillary for her crimes. It was the moment I knew he was a babe in the woods. I actually look at the Trump Administration as quite successful, largely inadvertently so. If you put aside the substantive things he did, and there were many, the attacks on Trump forced CivNats and many others to realize the “news” is pure propaganda, elections are fraudulent rituals, the FBI and DOJ are utterly corrupt secret police organizations,… Read more »

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1UnknownSubject
1UnknownSubject
Reply to  Jack Dobson
18 days ago

Hear hear!

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
Reply to  Jack Dobson
18 days ago

Michael Tracey, the maverick leftist, said that Trump’s biggest mistake was outsourcing his legislative agenda to Ryan and Mc Connell in the first two years of his administration, when he controlled everything. They pissed it all away,and Trump was left playing catch-up his last two years. He actually did pretty well, but it was too late.

Ol’ Mike may be a Commie, but he ain’t wrong…

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Jack Dobson
18 days ago

Trump told her he would not pursue Hillary for her crimes.”

Of course he wouldn’t. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. If you arrest the candidate you beat, what happens when you get beat? Deescalation is a good strategy in a lot of instances.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Drew
18 days ago

Except… he is going to be arrested anyways, so what were you saying again? He was -indicted- by the southern district of NY during his presidency. He was impeached. You think he isn’t getting an FBI raid within a few weeks of losing immunity you haven’t been paying attention.

He should have been sweeping these people away like the tide w/ mass indictments & arrests because they will most certainly do that to him & his close people (Giuliani) and nobody will stop them. This type of cuckery ‘de-escalation’ only works on the sane and rational. They are neither.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Apex Predator
18 days ago

Exactly. The bubble on the right doesn’t see this. Talk to a lefty and they’re convinced the only reason he’s not in prison right this instant is because of his POTUS immunity.

It’s a bit shocking to hear them go on and on about it.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Apex Predator
18 days ago

Unless you’re on the team that’s supposed to arrest him, I don’t see how you can talk with that much certainty. Nonetheless, if he had Hillary arrested, it would undoubtedly be a certainty that he’d be arrested as soon as he was out of office. As it stands, it is merely probable. Thats not nothing.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jack Dobson
18 days ago

I guess Trump’s problem was not the he was too much Hitler, but not enough Stalin.

whitney
Member
18 days ago

The most amazing part of all that is that Trump is NOT the grifter. But good luck trying to convince any leftist of that

whitney
Member
Reply to  whitney
18 days ago

Let me tell you about a story of a 60yo leftist in my life. Police showed up at her door recently because apparently she hit a parked car and did not leave the correct information. She did actually leave information because she saw someone see her hit the car so she left a note on the car with a fake number. She has Insurance there was absolutely no reason to do that. And you should see her car this is not the first time she’s done this. she is emblematic of the left

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  whitney
18 days ago

Every Corporate Office Environment on Both Coasts circa 2020. Why take responsibility & personal accountability when I can simply shift the blame. Or worst case, run to HR and file a sexual harassment claim pinning my incompetencies on some man by deflecting and potentially ruining him.
Passive aggressiveness and blame shifting is faggotry & feminine in nature and it utterly rules all corporate spaces which is why we are circling the drain. Low T males, soyboys, and wahmen do well in this environment. Men, true men that is… not so much.

B125
B125
Reply to  Apex Predator
18 days ago

Why not join in?
The wheels are falling off in real time at my globocorp, as goodwhites get more insane, and increased diversity efforts come in.

Our shrieking xanax addled AWFL managers don’t understand why Tyrone and Abdullah have low performance. I help the process along of course, I tell them I don’t care and laugh at the bosses behind their back. I do enough work then quietly push the rest out to diversity and wammin. Pretty funny how stupid these people are lol. Guess you need some dark triad and sadism to enjoy it though.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  B125
18 days ago

More Hate twitter:
“The elimination of SAT requirements are also a glaring indication of this future for higher ed, it’s as close as you’ll come to a tacit acknowledgement of lowered expectations for incoming students in the coming decades.

China will now be the research juggernaut.”

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  B125
18 days ago

Don’t see how you do it, but being young helps

I had to quit corporate b/c of that crap, and this was in the year 2000 or so when things weren’t half as bad and it was still 80-90% a white boy and ((()))) club

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Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
Reply to  whitney
18 days ago

AS Jack Cashill once said, “Although leftists are not uniquely guilty of lying, they are uniquely guilty of lying as a conscious strategy.” As you note, this does not only pertain to politics.

greyenlightenment
Reply to  whitney
18 days ago

short of murder, women can break the law and nothing happens to them or they go to some dorm prison for a few months like Martha Stewart. men actually face the consequences of their actions

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CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  greyenlightenment
18 days ago

“Short of murder…”

No, they get away with murder as well. They are absolutely immune to the dead sentence (one exception coming up, if not commuted), are often split out from male accomplices for lessor sentencing, and the first to receive plea deals ratting on male accomplices for the prosecution.

Falcone
Falcone
18 days ago

During this “transition,” I think a lot of what Trump did accomplish is going to be inadvertently highlighted by Biden.

two quick examples. The Paris Accord. Biden wants back in. Two, Cindy McCain and Cheney are joining Team Biden, highlighting Trump’s break from neo-con foreign policy and that he didn’t get us into another war.

going to be funny and strange if this transition becomes the real campaign that matters and Trump is able to overturn the cheated votes and win. And by then, everyone will have seen the real Biden and will be glad Trump came back and won.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Falcone
18 days ago

No they won’t. Are you expecting rationality from the mob? If Trump manages to overturn that we’re back to round-the-clock riots in the streets. But again I don’t know what to hope for here because if we havr peace and quiet long enough for them to take the guns away, well we all know what comes after that.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  whitney
18 days ago

I bet a lot of Biden voters and/or former Trump voters weren’t aware of his neo-con bent and had totally forgotten about the Paris Accord among others. All those white guys who didn’t vote this time around are going to remember why they voted last time.

I don’t mean to include the crazy left in this. There’s no dealing with them except the hard way, and that is not going to change

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Falcone
18 days ago

Wait…Dick Cheney is joining Team Biden? If true, hahahahahaha. I plan to join with the truly anti-war Left in their rioting if troops get deployed.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Jack Dobson
18 days ago

The true anti war left, if any are still around, are moderate rights by today’s standards.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Jack Dobson
18 days ago

Yep. What I read. Cheney and Cindy McCain

what a grifter hanger on circus a Biden admin will be.

MikeCLT
MikeCLT
18 days ago

Trump lost because he lacked self control. He could not control his temper or ego. It is who he is. He has many strong qualities, particularly courage, but they were overwhelmed by his lack of self control. He did many good things but they will be undone because of his lack of self control.
That is a lesson all young men should learn from the Trump era.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  MikeCLT
18 days ago

Truth he was at times his own worst enemy. However, when it comes to dismantling Clown World, I’ll take the bull in the china shop over the milquetoast ¡Jeb! Bush or any other Republicuck that would have gotten in office. What it showed was that after decades of ‘playing nice’ it gets you nowhere, and in fact, will get you pissed on for the most part. The take home message for any would be Populist Savior (as Trump LARPed as) is this: Unleash your inner lion because you are going to need it to survive the packs of spineless hyenas… Read more »

MikeCLT
MikeCLT
Reply to  Apex Predator
18 days ago

I agree. Trump had great courage and did many good things. He should also order all troops out of Afghanistan by January and let Biden oppose that or try to put them back.
I feel bad for Mike Flynn. Trump will have to pardon him rather than him being exonerated and his persecutors exposed in court.
But Trump can still expose them. Declassify everything even if the media will ignore it.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  MikeCLT
18 days ago

He can’t. Congress made a law that he couldn’t draw down troops below a certain number. He didn’t veto it.

Overlysocialized
Overlysocialized
Reply to  MikeCLT
18 days ago

Trump certainly made mistakes but he lost because the election was stolen, if it’s a fair election he almost certainly wins and the process still isn’t over. They were so blatant and obvious with their fraud he still could manage to pull it out, it’s a long shot but there’s a chance

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  MikeCLT
18 days ago

Zman nailed it. Trump didn’t understand that he was surrounded by apex level con men.

Yesterday’s firing of the SecDef Espy shows that now, when the curtain is closing, that he finally gets it. Too little, too late.

Horace
Horace
18 days ago

“[Trump] had no vision of the future.” His vision of the future was a return to the ‘nice’ ruling elites of the 1950’s. “Instead he kept trying to be accepted by people who detested him.” Ruling elites that go bad can either be reformed or be destroyed. Reform had to be tried first, and be seen to be tried and be seen to have failed. Mission accomplished. Recognition is now substantially more widespread that our ruling elites are neither elite nor are they ours any longer. The people who detest him also detest Western Civilization and want it, and us,… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
18 days ago

One of the more hilarious incidents is Trump unfollowing Bibi and AIPAC after they stabbed him in the back. Maybe he should have paid more attention to the snake parable.
Celebrity Civnat Trump is dead and is never coming back. The only question that remains is whether Punished Trump takes the stage.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Chet Rollins
18 days ago

The “dark” Spiderman.

love it

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Chet Rollins
18 days ago

Something that has always struck me as a microcosm of Trump’s desire to be among the elite, cool kids that despise him, overriding an opportunity to actually stick it to the elite and their stranglehold on a system is his dedication to Twitter. He enjoyed being Twitter in Chief too much. He preferred to play the bad guy on their platform, tossing up his hands “they censor me, they don’t like me, whaddya gonna do”, as opposed to actually taking a simple action to de-legitimize a major leftist tool by joining a competitor. Admittedly I think all social media are… Read more »

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Screwtape
18 days ago

I find it unbelievable that the President of the United States has no overt or covert means to “persuade” two twerps like Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg to straighten up and fly right. Is a messaging app really more powerful than the executive branch of the Federal Government?

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Judge Smails
18 days ago

No, the two social media types you mention sided with the Dems and knew they’d be protected. They were a third arm of the Dem’s—and they won with this election. They’re powerful as long as they remain aligned with the Dem’s.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
18 days ago

Day 1, he should have ordered the Army Corps of Engineers to build the Wall – all of it. If they balked, he should have replaced all the generals. If the House impeached him — well, they did anyway.

Falcone
Falcone
18 days ago

Trump still has one last hope

but it will involve a human sacrifice of Kushner to the gods.

here comes Trump’s Prince Hamlet moment

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Falcone
18 days ago

Hate twitter:

“At least if Biden is President we’ll never have to hear about the lowest black unemployment again”

*****

It was Jared whose “historic black voters” strategy cost Trump in the white vote. He lost more of us than he gained of them. That undermining was deliberate, without doubt.

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Alzaebo
18 days ago

None of these things cost President Trump the election or more accurately caused the current election chaos.
Democrat and Deep State fraud did.
Also Republicans did very well this year, even gained seats in California.
Without that fraud, the election would be mostly a Red Wave.

Bigtony
Bigtony
18 days ago

If trump were only half as cut-throat as his enemies claimed

nailheadtom
18 days ago

It quickly rang hollow with his voters.

Maybe SOME voters, but not HIS voters. They were, and are, enthusiastic about the guy.

Wkathman
Wkathman
18 days ago

Trump’s narcissistic qualities tend to override his frequently solid instincts. Additionally, something difficult to define is missing with the man — the “civic nationalist disease” is as accurate a way to put it as there is. Trump spoke like a populist (which is “fascist” according to his opposition) and mostly governed as a stereotypical milquetoast conservative. So he got all of the downside of being widely considered “fascist” while basically reaping no benefits from it. How could a man in his position fail to see that? He suffers from some fundamental blind spot.

greyenlightenment
Reply to  Wkathman
18 days ago

he tried to copy the Jeb/Cruz/Romney/Bush playbook once in office ,and given that it failed for them,. there was little reason to expect to work for him either.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Wkathman
18 days ago

Trump’s background is corporate negotiation. One works it by sending in the nastiest bulldog lawyers, that get up in the faces of their opponents, and go at it for hours, days, or weeks. But in the corporate world, there are clear boundaries. No physical stuff, no brandishing weapons, no threatening families, no locking someone in a room and setting it on fire. Trump forgot that the boundaries of corporate negotiation don’t apply in DC.

B125
B125
18 days ago

Disagree again.

Trump lost for one reason: massive, unprecedented voter fraud. Loom at Trump’s turnout. He probably got the most support ever from white males, a false narrative.

If trump were a sucker, hr would’ve been on his ass by 2017. He defeated the dnc and 17intelligence agencies and was not forced from office.

greyenlightenment
Reply to  B125
18 days ago

it is interesting how we have this divide between blame trump vs blame fraud. I think it is a mix of both

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  B125
18 days ago

Trump beats the snot out of the establishment when it is him on stage They beat him and tangle him up when they gang up behind the scenes I think all these new rallies he has planned can turn all of this into the “real” campaign. He is going to shine on stage. During the pre-election (PE) campaign, Biden could hide his true colors and people, even me, would be too much in a fog to really make sense of it. But NOW ?! We can see what the hell Biden really wants to do because he has already started… Read more »

Chief
Chief
Reply to  Falcone
18 days ago

Teddy Roosevelt would have understood what’s coming Trump’s way: “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in… Read more »

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CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Chief
18 days ago

Yep, I often thought if Trump listened to me he’d have done better in office (a theme we hear variations of within this group constantly), but now I realize if Trump had listened to me, he’d never have been elected to that office in the first place.

I am one of those timid souls that TR speaks about. Long after I’m dead and forgotten, historians will argue about the Trump era and write books about him. Teachers will add Trump’s name to the list of Presidents their class must memorize as a teaching exercise.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  CompscI
18 days ago

I fear you are rather optimistic about the intellectual capabilities of our present or future students, as well as the demands teachers would put upon them.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Falcone
18 days ago

Just like a quarterback can have an awesome last half of the fourth quarter, once the ball game is out of reach. You still lost the game.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
18 days ago

At the end of the day, no matter what his foibles, he did one thing that is, and will remain,priceless.

He prevented Hillary Clinton from being elected President.

Worth it.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
18 days ago

we forget about that

and Paris Accord

Tariffs

Taking it to China

Loosened regs

Energy independence

….I’m starting to sound like Hannity so best stop

But Trump in many ways did one hell of a job, and we did get a lot of wall / barrier

He will be missed

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Falcone
18 days ago

Even if we win the fight and we get another four years, he will still be missed too short a time. Ultimately though he did his job which was to buy us time and to open people eyes to how fracked the system is. President Trump did these things and did his best to try and build an economy that was good. I think he didn’t help Whites as much as I would have liked but he didn’t betray them either. In the end we used that time to buy guns and supplies which is good but no one even… Read more »

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Falcone
18 days ago

Often mentioned here, but missed your list, is the very many things he did that showed up just how corrupt the Deep State is. That includes the ongoing election chicanery. As the old military saying put it, when you are up to your ass in alligators, it is hard to remember your mission was to drain the swamp.

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
18 days ago

Indeed. In spades.
If Biden is placed in the oval office, maybe he’ll offer her an ambassadorship to, oh…say…Libya.

M. B. Lamar
M. B. Lamar
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
18 days ago

That’s the big finish. It goes like this – Biden resigns or is 25thed out of office. Kamala is found ineligible due to citizenship requirements. Psyche! Nancy is 3rd in line. She appoints Hillary VP and resigns. Cue dramatic hamster.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
18 days ago

All true, but he’s a fighter. If nothing else, he’s gotten people to fight, and that’s the start we needed.

Supposing he doesn’t pull a rabbit out of the hat, somebody will have to assume the mantle. Trump 2024 is a non-starter imo.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Paintersforms
18 days ago

If Trump can avoid criminal prosecution (doubtful, although god only knows why..the libs really want this), he should channel his energies into a new “Fox” type media.

Remember the days of old Fox when you’d watch it with the sound off and just look at the bevy of 20 year old “journalists” ladies with plunging necklines and tight sweaters?

I’m pretty sure that formula is ready to be reinvented.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  ProZNoV
18 days ago

That’s a winner, but I hope it doesn’t come to that, obviously.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Paintersforms
18 days ago

The fight—post Trump—will be for the soul of the Rep party. As we speak, the RINO’s or neocon civnats, are attempting to regain control and resume their place as the Washington Generals.

Of course, many here are beyond politics at the organized party level. None-the-less, it won’t hurt to cheer on a post election change of the Rep Party to a populous, White nationalist party based upon the (former) Rep party. Easier to take over than build from scratch.

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  CompscI
18 days ago

Definitely. It’s been happening since Trump came down the escalator. True to form, slower and less cutthroat than what’s happening to the Dems— and that’s a good thing. The timing kind of sucks though.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
18 days ago

Good essay. I guess the question is can we get a leader or leaders back into power who are able to do the job without the other side pushing us into blood shed? We may never get a populist close to the executive branch again but if we do hopefully peacefull measures within the system might work to clean up the corruption through the work of ethical realist men. I only hope so because I love America but I don’t really think so. I think this probably ends badly at some point. We seem to be driven towards some kind… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
18 days ago

The demographic situation still has yet to be fully understood

Normally,I would say a return to a Cold War footing would get rid of the frivolous actors and allow only serious men to rise up.

But with all the lower IQ POC, I haven’t the foggiest. If I had to take a guess it would be that the country is doomed. I don’t see how these newbs are going to MAGA

B125
B125
Reply to  Falcone
18 days ago

That’s the thing. There is no going back to normal, because “normal” requires a solid white, anglo-assimilated majority. Some Latinos and asians support maga and the white status quo but they can’t re-create or uphold it themselves.

I see an increase in general chaos and dysfunction, more crime, more corruption, more religion, etc. Black areas: church on every block, shooting every weekend.

Most white people are just totally ignorant of hbd or even demographics in general and don’t have any clue what’s coming. We’re just coasting on institutional inertia at this point.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
18 days ago

What people forget is that this vote count forgery is getting permanently imbedded into the system. Every future president will be the Democratic choice. Wait and see, the election bookies will give you no payoff on the Dems winning (though if you want to lay money down on the Reps winning, you’ll get good terms). Instead betting will concentrate on what the winning Dem margin might be. Because voting, from here on out, will be nothing more than ornamentation.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Dutch
18 days ago

Unless you have the ill fortune to be “liquidated” as they said a hundred years ago 🙂 because you were politically unfavored and/or there is a revolution, daily life will probably resemble much of Latin America. The system will be thoroghly corrupt it’s true, but will function sort of like Mafia domianted Italian neighborhoods in the old days used to do. At least at local level, everything runs more or less smoothly. Pay-offs, bribery and favoritism are standard procedure, but if you you play along you will survive.

Milestone D
Milestone D
18 days ago

Trump lost because he did not and could not expand his support beyond those who voted for him in 2016. And the demographic reality meant that a re-run of 2016 would result in a loss. Why that was the case … I’d argue that Z’s assessment is largely correct. Faced with the complete and intractable opposition to every institution of state and cultural power in the western world, Trump needed to expand his support beyond the Dirt People. I think he believed he could attract significant Black support, which was always nonsense, b/c his argument to the Black voting bloc… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Milestone D
18 days ago

Trump got the most votes ever, other than joe biden 2020.

He got more votes than Obama 2008 in Pennsylvania. Trump won in a landslide, look at the numbers yourself. White men were appearing out of thin air to vote for Trump in the sticks.

There is only one reason he lost and that’s fraud. I’m not saying this as a sore loser or as cope, I’m just trying to be accurate. He could get 6 million votes in Pennsylvania and philly would come up with 7 million for the dems.

Milestone D
Milestone D
Reply to  B125
18 days ago

Yeah, I’ll grant that. And it is an amazing accomplishment. And I certainly acknowledge that Trump is the victim of massive voter fraud. But the fact that the vote was close meant that fraud was an option. Trump had to have realized that fraud was going to happen (the democrats all but said they planned to cheat!) and should have had immediate, actionable plans to implement. It would appear that he did not, either b/c he thought he’d win “bigly” or naively trusted that the democrats would play by the rules.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Milestone D
18 days ago

He got his lawsuits on file pretty quickly after the election, so he had at least some inkling and preparation.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Milestone D
18 days ago

The vote was not close. That’s why they had to throw in over 100k votes per city in a naked grab. They wanted to do it on the sly, but Trumps voting margins were too big. They schlonged him anyway, but they had to tip their hand to do it. Not to worry, they’ll refine the process for next time.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Milestone D
18 days ago

IMHO, I think it was the specifically black pandering. They are a lost cause, and the smallest of the minorities anyway. There was some indication hispanics were getting black fatigue, and don’t like them anyway. The dems seemed to go out of their way to be the “black party.” Let them. Blandering probably turned off more white voters than hispandering.

Moss
Member
18 days ago

A great reminder, Z. It’s all about ruthless exploitation of people.

Con Man + Mark = Con Man Win.
Options?
We can kill the Con Men, remove the Mark, drive off the Con Men, or ignore the whole equation. Eventually the Con Men run out of Marks.
Then, the Con Men must be destroyed.
Seems like violence is inevitable.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Moss
18 days ago

Seems like violence is inevitable.
it is inevitable, if whites don’t do something about the israelites and the democrats, south africa 2.0 will happen on a larger scale.

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greyenlightenment
18 days ago

If Trump lost because the election was stolen , does that invalidate the above analysis? Can we both blame trump and the rigging? If not fraud, then he lost because he ignored his base. He kept boosting Fox News, Fox and friends , and cucks such as bozoingo, Levin, Hannity, , black conservatives–everyone and everything but whites and things important to whites. once in power he coped the bush/Romney playbook and it given that it failed for them, in 2008 and 2012, there was no reason to expect it to work this time.

Tom K
Tom K
18 days ago

It’s not over til the Orange Man says it’s over.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Tom K
18 days ago

I don’t think it’s a great idea to write Trump off.

I mean, do we really want critical race theory immediately re-implemented?

Do we want them to rapidly implement a permanent mask mandate, lockdown, and all the other joys of Flunaticism?

Arcadian
Arcadian
18 days ago

I am afraid all the Never Trump talk here by Tappan Zee, uh, Mario Coumo Bridge man will be for nought when AOC checks his box on the enemy’s list and he is deplatformed.

Arcadian
Arcadian
18 days ago

So did our friends on the left take a moment out of their celebration to inform their fellow travelers in the phone scam trade that the Do Not Call List would no longer be enforced/policed?

TomA
TomA
18 days ago

Trashing Trump while he’s down is beneath you Z. That’s an unnecessary cheap shot. He may not be your savior, but he made a fortune, is married to an extremely attractive woman despite being fat and old, ended NAFTA, stopped the endless wars, and actually made peace in the Middle East (not exactly trivial accomplishments). You have a blog and he won the presidency. Just saying. And he’s not done yet. If the Ds do succeed in the stealing the election, he may well start a third party; and if so, that will be the end of the Republican Party.… Read more »

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  TomA
18 days ago

As mentioned in another comment,Pres. Trump and I are both 74 but we are not “old”; we are well-aged. And I’m not fat: six-three, 186 pounds! Hah! Don’t underestimate us leading-edge boomers; we remember when the world was our oyster and pearls abounded. I for one continue to seek them out.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Montefrío
18 days ago

I’m not far behind you, and I can still ride a mountain bike over 40 miles of single track, up a high mountain pass, and return home for a beer and a steak. And I might be inclined to cut that ride a little shorter if I had a wife like Melennia waiting for me when I got back. Kudos to Trump for the trifecta.

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  TomA
18 days ago

You’ve got me beat on the exercise, bro’! But I’ve got two lady friends, one 40, the other 45, and imho, they can give Melania a run for her money. Life is still good!

B125
B125
Reply to  Montefrío
18 days ago

2 thicc (white) latinas in the Argentine mountains sound pretty nice tbh

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Montefrío
Member
Reply to  B125
18 days ago

Continuing the honesty, one is half-English, half Spanish nobility, looks kind of like Audrey Hepburn, the other is Franco-Swiss and looks like a cross between Catherine Deneuve and Sybill Shepherd, if they were five three. Both are refugees from urban life, as am I, and I’m still pinching myself to make sure it’s not a delightful dream. Both are slender, however. My dtr-in-law, a mestiza (Spanish, Syrian and Guaraní), Mediterranean in appearance, meets your criterion even after three kids in six years (she’s 31), but believe me, she works at it. She’s also tiny (5′ 1″), but far more voluptuous… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Montefrío
18 days ago

Write the novel with a book cover photo of the three of them and I’ll buy it. I too live in a rural mountainous region at 7500 feet. Once upon a time in my prior business life, I spent a few weeks San Vicente Bolivia and regret never having made the trip south into Argentina. Very remote, uniquely beautiful.

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Montefrío
Member
Reply to  TomA
17 days ago

Forget novels: truth is stranger than fiction. If I could, I’d post photos. They’re truly quite dazzling for young and old alike. I’ve not been to Bolivia,won’t get the yellow fever vaccine, but I was right at the border on Lake Titicaca. My son likes it, went there to climb Huayana Potosí (nearly 20k feet).
We live in a piedmont at 3000 ft.,the sierra de Comechingones rises to a bit under seven.
Make the trip if travel is still possible.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Montefrío
18 days ago

You are putting in a good pitch for (?) Argentina. 🙂 Perhaps someday I will make use of that Spanish Lit MA after all 😀

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
17 days ago

You could do worse, but the Spanish spoken here might surprise you. My second wife, a Spaniard, had no small amount of difficulty with it. “Chuncano”, the local idiom, is “sung” not spoken.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  TomA
18 days ago

Bragging in keeping with being a layabout. Late 50s, good enough health to be able to ride bike couple miles each way and have chesseburger & fries (big meal of day) at any of several local junk fooderies 🙂

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
18 days ago

I’m able to get full vertical- upright, off the couch- with only a couple practice swings!

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  TomA
18 days ago

Stop being butthurt. The Zman has said more often than I can count you learn more from your failures than your successes. He is trying trying to show what we need to learn, and probably learning himself in the process. Why take something personally that isn’t aimed at you.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  ronehjr
18 days ago

Z-Man’s critique was fair. I don’t agree with all of it, but it presented a side one needs to be aware of. We all need a bit of a thicker skin here.

Barn Jollycorn
Barn Jollycorn
Reply to  CompscI
17 days ago

The critique is nonsensical. Either Trump lost through fraud or he lost because of Other Reasons. Since the Dems were committed to add as many fraudulent votes as it took to win, it didn’t matter what Trump did before the election. What he did before the election was work his ass off, hold multiple huge rallies every day, and win by a large majority, as well as boosting Rubs in House seats. But the Dems simply added votes at 4am, probably largely by software hacks, as well as flash-drive dumps and hand-filled back-up ballots, and stole the election. Z’s attitude… Read more »

greyenlightenment
Reply to  TomA
18 days ago

that would split the vote though

bubba
bubba
Reply to  TomA
18 days ago

LMAO at this typical MAGAtard take. How did he stop the wars? Where? He re-shuffled the troops and EXPANDED ME presence, if anything. Not to mention the arming of Saudis against Yemen.

What “peace in the Middle East”? What are you on about? Lol.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  bubba
18 days ago

I’m going to assume that Bubba is your real name. Here’s a clue. Proper names start with a capital letter. They teach that in elementary school.

WJ0216
WJ0216
Reply to  bubba
18 days ago

Dead Americans from ME wars under Trump – maybe 30? Under BO – 2000. Under GW Bush – 5000. There is a difference there.
Color revolutions and civil wars started under Trump? None that I can think of, maybe Yemen but Trump is by far the least interventionist president since Carter.

Arcadian
Arcadian
Reply to  WJ0216
18 days ago

“What “peace in the Middle East”?”

I thought trolling went out in the 90’s for your demographic?

Yeah, really, basic logic. Basic math. Under Dubya and his twin Obama, thousands of dead and maimed Americans to no good end.

The entire Middle East de-stabilized. Dirty dealings with former allies Saddam (kept Iraq in check), Mubarak (same role in Egypt), Quaddafi (after he agreed to surrender nukes). I can though in a few Bush wars if you like… stupid fuck.

bubba
bubba
Reply to  Arcadian
17 days ago

….And? What has Trump done to change any of that? He didn’t start NEW wars? Oh great! How about cornering Iran and giving Israel the green light to keep expanding.War games on Russia’s border. Threatening China. Hardly a “peace” President.

Learn the facts, retard.

Arcadian
Arcadian
Reply to  TomA
18 days ago

I have to agree. Was speaking with a good friend that turned me on to this blog some time back, tonight. He said, “I;m done with zee man ever since the election.”

This response to “Van Helsing”:

“No, you are simply a moron.”

Also, IMO beneath the previous quality of the blogger’s discourse. I thought he bashes a certain prolific author and publisher of books like “SJW Always Lie” .,… for this kind of thing. Next, the banishing begins…??

Thud Muffle
Member
18 days ago

Well put. Just a reminder though. Trump is an effect not a cause. The grifters that sell their office or use it to extort stuff are all still there. The military/industrial complex that wants to keep those endless wars going is still there.

Shmuely
Shmuely
18 days ago

You’re as useless as a libertarian.

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Shmuely
18 days ago

there’s your first down vote od the day

Arcadian
Arcadian
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
18 days ago

I made it 10.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Shmuely
18 days ago

Don’t down-vote him, bro! Up-vote ME! 🙂

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jim Smith
18 days ago

Improved version:

You’re useless as a libertarian.”

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
18 days ago

Like all of Zman’s essays, this one is filled with pungent ideas and assertions. Nevertheless, it is a clear miss. Zman, and many of the commenters here, see the massive vote fraud operation as a smoothly unfolding fait accompli. It is not. It is a desperation play, a plain-sight hail mary pass. If it unravels—as appears to be occurring—Trump will be President for four more years, and he will (he must) unleash a war against the Deep State. While the outcome will be uncertain, only such a conflict can save us.

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Jim Smith
18 days ago

No argument from me

I can’t wait for the rallies to start

He is going to REAM Biden and the establishment like no tomorrow

And hopefully he fires Wray asap and uses that pos as a punching bag at the rallies. “White supremacy is our biggest threat”

No, REGULAR white people are YOUR biggest threat lol

And John Edwards called and wants his shampoo back

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  Jim Smith
18 days ago

Trump is from New York. I like him but he is the guy who talks shit sitting at the end of the bar but rarely steps outside to take a punch that gives or brings blood. Trump has helped the nation by exposing the corruption in the media and the imperial city and he has done some things like reduce immigration to some degree but if you remember he was talking legalizing DACA just a few days ago? Trump was talking the “ platinum” plan just a few days ago? And Trump sat in the White House a few months… Read more »

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B125
B125
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
18 days ago

Agree w/ DACA

But the military is firmly in leftist hands. How humiliating if he called them in, and Esper refused. Also, calling the military in is standard colour revolution stuff. ‘Sniper’ kills some protestors, boom, trump is a violent dictator get him out.

Trump prudently did the right thing.

Arcadian
Arcadian
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
18 days ago

“I like him but he is the guy who talks shit sitting at the end of the bar…”

Yeah, er no. The guy threw up construction in the ultimate MAFIA and government and econmic cesspit years of NYC. Learned from his old man Fred, a tough character.

Your analogy is likely more .. self descriptive?

maxsnafu
Member
Reply to  Jim Smith
18 days ago

But getting tough with anyone is not Trump’s M.O. He prefers to tweet and hold rallies.

Lumpy
Lumpy
Reply to  maxsnafu
18 days ago

Sure. Walk a mile in his shoes against the Deep State that murdered Kennedy and countless others and then let’s hear this pithy analysis.
My guess, if you took the old SSH survey, you never got punched in the face nor served one up.
Amiright??

maxsnafu
Member
Reply to  Lumpy
17 days ago

You must govern your passions. They will be your undoing.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Jim Smith
18 days ago

Certainly is a cliffhanger. I’m pretty sure it ain’t offially over till the Fat Lady (Electoral College) sings, December 14. Add Supreme Court or U.S. Congress as needed, stir gently.

Arcadian
Arcadian
Reply to  Jim Smith
18 days ago

Seriously, win or lose to see the host of this blog join RINO surrender monkeys before the fight even began …. pathetic. But as he is expanding his journo reach to other blogs, adding pitches for products .. entry into the club is underway. And with it a certain concomitant tone….

Max
Max
18 days ago

This is a colossal pile of steaming BULLSHIT. You have ZERO clue as to what the President thought or thinks, in short, you’re just making shit up. Fuck you.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Max
18 days ago

Is it just me, or does Max appear somewhat agitated? 🙂

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TomA
TomA
Reply to  Jim Smith
18 days ago

Yes, I think the straw has broken the camel’s back and he’s ready to go to war. I suspect that many on this site feel similarly. And venting helps mollify the rage somewhat. But I say, channel that rage into genuine and tangible actions. Go dark, get fit, get ready, and put your thinking cap on. We don’t have to just bend over and smile, or rant on a blog. We can do better.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  TomA
18 days ago

There’s plenty of time to rant on blogs, just keep it below the level of priority of items mentioned in your posting.

M. B. Lamar
M. B. Lamar
Reply to  Jim Smith
18 days ago

The overthrow of the United States can do that to you. But no worries! You’ll have ample time to consider Trump’s tenure during your internment in Nevada, and draw your own conclusion.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  M. B. Lamar
18 days ago

Consider it mandatory sabbatical.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Jim Smith
18 days ago

Yes, and in his agitation loses an opportunity to make his case to the audience. There’s a reason to keep one’s cool—agitation, hate, TDS, and the like are all too often self-defeating and meaningless.

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Jim Smith
17 days ago

He certainly needs to switch to decaffeinated coffee!

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Max
18 days ago

You have to understand that some people are helplessly superstitious If Z is anything like me, we are sometimes hesitant to say what we really think because we fear it might jinx things. My thought all along is that Trump was going to crush Biden and send him packing with his tail between his legs. It’s a vision that came to me. But I was a little scared to say it. But I did, and yet it may still come to pass!!! Because the ultimate humiliation would be for Trump to come back and win and show the world that… Read more »

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Reply to  Falcone
18 days ago

I haven’t told anyone what I think is going to happen, nor did I make a prediction on the election. I talk about what has happened and tell normies “let’s see”. I feel that it will jinx it too.

Montefrío
Member
18 days ago

Pres. Trump and I were born within a month of one another and are both native NYers, I from Manhattan, he from Queens. One of the things I admired and admire about him is that he never tried to insinuate himself into the “old line” WASP “elite”, unlike many others who were intent on buying into it, something that just doesn’t happen, or at least didn’t when he and I were growing up. He stayed himself, an admirable trait. Sadly, however, he “teamed up” with the dishonorable parvenues who have destroyed a once great city and could be said to… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Montefrío
18 days ago

Trump, like most in the boomer generation, thinks loyalty is a one-way street with white arrow pointing towards them. At no time is there a lane that makes it a two way street. He may be the most disloyal man on earth. He hired mostly cruddy people but even the ones that weren’t so bad were actively rooting for his failure when they departed the West Wing. That should tell us all something. I really do hope he goes to jail. His perp walk would do more for the movement in 20 seconds than 20 years of podcasts and blog… Read more »

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
18 days ago

Thanks for your inspirational reply and carefully considered evaluation of an entire generation of citizens. May your wishes come to nothing.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Montefrío
18 days ago

I’ve only known what I’ve seen in corporate life. Sorry about that. That and nonsense programs about “taking ownership” and “inspirational leadership” that they pay thousands for.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  JR Wirth
18 days ago

Trump is divisive even among his supporters. Indeed he might be even more valuable to us if they continued to hound him after a defeat.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Tom K
18 days ago

Highly valuable in that respect. If they were smart they would let him go on his way to stew in Palm Beach. Instead…

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  JR Wirth
18 days ago

Martyring Trump would be the dumbest thing the Left could do.

He’d be more powerful than Obi-Wan.

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Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
18 days ago

If hes smart he has a deadman switch too – maybe that is qanon.