The Fanatic’s Ball

Note: I have a post up on Taki about the end of liberal democracy. As according to the new normal, I have posts up behind the green door on popular culture.


The great British evolutionary biologist, J. B. S. Haldane, famously said that fanaticism is man’s greatest invention. The obsessive, uncritical belief in an idea or cause is the opposite of the sober-minded and rational. The fanatic is intolerant of anything that contradicts his views, while the rational man is willing to update or even abandon his views when presented contradictory information. The fanatic sees only that which confirms his fanaticism and refuses to yield in his opinions.

The fanatic, of course, has been in the middle of every man-made social disaster since the French Revolution. It was fanatics who brought on the Reign of Terror and it was fanatics who brought on The Great Terror. Fanatics let loose by Mao in the Cultural Revolution terrorized the Chinese population. Man’s greatest invention turns out to be man’s most terrible invention. Once it is let loose, it is not easily put back on the leash, at least not until it runs out of things to smash.

This year has seen the fanatic set free to run wild in our streets. They were deliberately agitated and let loose by the petty men of the ruling class, frustrated that the people’s champion had not been vanquished. It’s hard for modern people to understand how the French radicals, for example, could have killed so many in the name of the revolution, but current events make this much easier to comprehend, even if we have not reached the bloodbath stage yet.

The thing is, fanaticism is not a well-defined group of people held in reserve and then deployed when needed. It’s more like a spiritual force that sweeps through a population, afflicting the weak minded and those desperate for a purpose. We see this with the election shenanigans. The desire to be part of the great fight against the bad man and his minions caused hundreds, maybe thousands to follow their fanatical rage and engage in thousands of acts of election fraud.

That is what is coming into focus as various parties look into what happened and whistle blowers step forward. The image that is emerging is of an orgy of corruption where the participants are free of any moral restraint. They were not working from a plan, but a belief that they were on the side of angels and therefore free to use any means necessary to help the cause. They were the righteous engaged in the great war against the wicked, unleashed by the ruling class.

The defenders of Trump will work hard to make it sound like a wide-ranging conspiracy, but that’s just how mass media culture works. Facts and observations cannot be presented as is. They have to be part of a narrative with a well-defined protagonist and an easy to hate villain. In reality, there is no grand conspiracy at work. The people involved in the election rigging are true believers. They believe what they are doing is for a just cause and they cannot see the corruption in it.

Fanatics in numbers are a lot like a flock of birds of a school of fish. They instinctively coordinate their efforts without needing to be told. Like fireflies at dusk, they are constantly signaling one another, which intensifies their fanaticism, making them more sensitive to the movements of the group. The people at the top cheered the fanatics in the streets, excused their behavior and reminded them that the evil Trump must be stopped by any means necessary. They were on a holy mission.

The thing is though, what motivates those unleashing the fanatics on the population also motivates the fanatic. That is a search for purpose. These are people who wish to be part of something bigger than themselves, but they lack the skill and ability to create anything but mayhem. This manifests as the smashing of whatever they see in their way, which can be anything. It is why they eventually turn on one another, because at some point they run out of things to smash.

That’s what makes this such a dangerous time. The petty and stupid people surrounding the corpse of Joe Biden are not going to be satisfied with expelling Trump from Washington. They will want vengeance. Part of that will be swinging wildly in what they perceive to be the opposite direction out of spite. It’s not hard to imagine them unleashing a Camp of the Saints event, for example, by reversing Trump’s immigration rules and inviting the world to their celebration.

It’s not that the people around the Pretender Biden want millions rushing the border in the hope of getting a promised amnesty. They are too stupid and short-sighted to think that far ahead. It’s that they will want the quick rush of smashing those rules and gloating over their work. Like the fanatics cheering the executioner holding up the head of his victim, they will simply be looking for the thrill of seeing their enemies, real and imagined, facing their holy wrath.

What the past tells us about times of terror is the fanatics are never satisfied with the blood of a few enemies of the revolution. The sight of the enemies blood just makes them hungry for more. There may be some in the ruling class sensing that they must first put their fanatics back on the leash, but most of too dull and self-loathing to grasp what they have unleashed. There is a good chance that the summer riots were just a taste of what lies ahead in the woke revolution.

It is tempting to assume that this revolution will eat itself, but that is not the pattern people think they see in the history book. People point to Robespierre as the example, but he seems more like an exception. Stalin’s terror campaign ended when Stalin died of natural causes. The Cultural Revolution ended when Mao died. Pol Pot lived to old age and according to his own words, died with a clear conscience. Perhaps this time will be an exception, but that is never the way to bet.

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Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
12 days ago

An interesting observation after the brawls in D.C. in the conclusion of the Maga rally was the cop-hate and fedposting on the normie conservative side. When average Joe realizes the Proud Boys are doing a better job at keeping order than the police, you’ve turned a corner. Fanatics tend to change their ideology when they get punched in the face. Arguably, it’s the only way.
Disclaimer: It still stands you should stay in large groups and not brawl with Antifa. What the Proud Boys did was dumb, but at least it was dumb in a way that benefits us.

Last edited 12 days ago by Chet Rollins
MikeCLT
MikeCLT
Reply to  Chet Rollins
12 days ago

Zman is right. The left is going to lash out blindly and wildly. It is best for us not to be in their blast radius.

B125
B125
Reply to  MikeCLT
12 days ago

Goodwhites actually believe that they are ending racism by letting in millions of non-whites and making us into a minority.

In a way it’s funny, the leftists/shitlibs demand open borders to punish badwhites, and now all the art stores, coffee shops and homo bars in Toronto are being torn down to build mega condos for rich foreigners. The anti-car agenda is less respected as more non whites come in.

Of course in the end we all suffer, but shitlibs suffer more because they don’t even have families or a community to fall back on.

Cobicat
Cobicat
Reply to  B125
12 days ago

Hello fellow Toronto resident. Grew up in what is now Asiancourt. Lived in the Beach for 20 years got pissed with the nose in the air attitude also a divorce and now live in leaside. 60 years, seen a lot of change. Looking to get out soon.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  MikeCLT
12 days ago

You do realize there is no hiding from these fanatics once they get going. You’re white male and that makes you a target.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Rwc1963
12 days ago

Your skin is your uniform.

Chris
Chris
Member
Reply to  Rwc1963
12 days ago

White male here

Gov. Anal Wart
Gov. Anal Wart
Reply to  Rwc1963
12 days ago

Carry a gun and travel in twos whenever possible. If no cameras present, consider collecting your spent brass and sneaking away to fight another day.

BTW Chicago’s mayor and IL’s governor are presently taking vacations with their families out of state.

Brewmestr
Brewmestr
Member
Reply to  Gov. Anal Wart
12 days ago

Use a wheel gun. Your brass stays with you.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Chet Rollins
12 days ago

The State will continue to delegitimize itself at an accelerating rate. When Normie turns totally against their beloved military, the worm will have turned. That is coming soon. Granted, Normie will barely be able to speak above the din of the Invited Invaders.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Chet Rollins
12 days ago

The people who wave “Back the Blue” signs finally realize that the cops aren’t backing them.
We’ve discussed the question of which side the police will back in the case of civil unrest and come to the conclusion that the cops are loyal to whoever pays their salaries. They’re not our friends.

Au Jus
Au Jus
Member
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
12 days ago

I’ll add that cops are loyal to who pays their salaries, pensions and the comp time they cash in at retirement. If told, they won’t hesitate to stomp our heads to preserve those benes.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
12 days ago

Ris, Nailed the core of the issue. The continued use of the police by Prog mayors to ignore rioters and antifa and round up Normie for isolated acts of self defense will force the worm to turn. It hasn’t yet, and I think there is still a a way to go before that occurs. For police forces, burning up good will at an enormous rate, it will come to decision time. Continue and eventually be seen as thugs for Progs. Individual officers bucking the mayor will be isolated and punished, so the only solution for the police that will alleviate… Read more »

manc
Reply to  Penitent Man
12 days ago

There might be a difference in the way Joe Normie sees cops in urban v rural settings. I live in a small town on the outskirts of a big urban area and saw a lot of “We Support the Police” signs in yards.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  manc
12 days ago

Rural areas and directly elected sheriffs are not really in a dynamic wherein they must enforce political arrests (or lack of arrest). Yet. Reason 137,295 to surrender to cities to the hordes, if you need another one.

ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
Reply to  Penitent Man
11 days ago

I live in a small town and know where our cops live, what their families look like. That’s why our cops aren’t militant.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
12 days ago

They may eventually be, but are not now. In blue areas, they (appropriately enough) are on Team Blue. Enemy territory has the Blue gendarmes protecting the blue Resistance fighters. In red areas, they’re muh equal protection and respekt muh authoritay… For now. Cops go where the money and status lead them, and there is hope that as red ares get partisan, the sheriffs will follow.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Educated.redneck
12 days ago

Perhaps. More likely cops go where they are ordered. So either control the people who control the cops (good luck in the cities) or go where you can control them such as the aforementioned smaller towns and rural counties.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Penitent Man
12 days ago

You’d think with all the recent attacks on cops by blm & antifags as well as reflexively getting thrown under the bus as soon as the wrong colored dude gets whacked, these turds would get a clue about which way the wind is blowing. You’d think. When those pensions inevitably get cut if not eliminated and/or you’re one incident away from sharing a cell with bubba the butt ranger, you better start thinking a little clearer. And as previously mentioned, county sheriffs are a different breed from your run of the mill big city cop.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  usNthem
12 days ago

I imagine the prevalence of cameras deter any righteous retribution by decent cops. Antifa/BLM know this and thus you see the sea of arms holding up their phones to catch that one instant when a still frame shot will appear to show a cop getting too heavy handed with them. Hell, it is in the leftist play book to aggravate the cops then film the response. Ultimately, the police will slip further into an us vs. everyone mentality if they are assaulted on one side by aggitants and betrayed by the election choices of the people they are supposed to… Read more »

Last edited 12 days ago by Penitent Man
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
12 days ago

The best play here for the urban cops will eventually become to just run away and let the Leftists do what they want. This may also include a tacit hand-off approach to counter-Leftist groups like the Proud Boys too though. The idea being to simply let the core areas of the cities fall into the hands of whatever gang is strongest. If a PB kills an Antifag or vice-versa, oh well, we didn’t see nuthin’.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  pozymandias
12 days ago

That’s the Chicago de-policing method in response to shootings from a few years ago and often cited as the reason for the dramatic escalation in murders. Let the natives do what they do.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Chet Rollins
12 days ago

From Twatter:

Some dude supposedly from Venezuela saying that the right carefully documented and reported every violent abuse the leftist street thugs committed against peaceful demonstrators.

It did zero good; the left won. Force needs to meet force to be stopped. The state job is to have a monopoly on force, and they’re contracting it out to the crazy left. The right doesn’t know what to do.

I certainly don’t.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  ProZNoV
12 days ago

They were also able to prove that Chavez cheated using statistical analysis. I think though that every situation would be slightly different. For a Venezuelan they automatically think “well if it goes south here I’ll go to Columbia, etc.”, same as Californians escaping to other states or even Russian dissidents escaping the Soviet Union. In the modern era I’m hard pressed to think of a totalitarian government that didn’t use other states as escape valves for possible troublemakers. So when Biden and his cronies talk about putting the screws to us with no possibility of escape, well, I guess we’ll… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Chet Rollins
12 days ago

Anyone fighting with Antifa, especially in a liberal city is a moron. Across the nation men are in state prisons with long sentences for defending themselves from Antifa attacks. Very few, if any Antifa are sitting in prison for attacking the right wingers. Even the bike lock guy got probation. Had someone on the right done what he did, they would be in prison for attempted murder. Steel to the head is deadly force by any reasonable definition (that force likely to cause serious bodily injury and or death). It was an unprovoked attack on a stranger he had no… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  tarstarkas
12 days ago

And pacifism in the face of a beat down by thugs will get you a trip to the morgue or be disabled for life smartypants.
Now if you’re gonna fight in the streets with BLM do what they do. Dress for it. Wear a hoodie, and beneath a large mask that obscures most of your face. Wear gloves.
And beneath the hoodie wear another shirt, so after a tussle you dump the black hoodie and you’re just another peep.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Rwc1963
12 days ago

I didn’t say waive a white flag of surrender. What you do is you don’t put yourself in impossible situations where the ONLY option is to set yourself up for a nice long state prison visit.
Every single time a bunch of people on the right get attacked and arrested if they fight back is in a big liberal city.
General Pickett had his yes men and cheerleaders too. He also was “doing something” and certainly displayed a lot of bravery. A lot of good men died for nothing.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
12 days ago

I agree but the problem lies with the DA’s and Judges rather than Juries.
That will likely continue until a couple of the more outrageous DA’s end up dead.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Bilejones
12 days ago

DAs enjoy near total immunity. They can withhold exculpatory evidence, lie about you, get witnesses to lie. More or less anything. It is near impossible to get them prosecuted. Judges are even harder and have almost perfect immunity. They will get in trouble once in a while, but almost never for poisoning a case against a person. Recently some Michigan judge got sent to prison, but it was for stuff she did to help herself (IIRC, in a divorce case).

Reply to  Bilejones
12 days ago

Starting with that traitor in Kenosha.

Reply to  Chet Rollins
12 days ago

I’m tired of DRs incessantly terming self defense by white people “dumb.” To the extent we appear weak and emasculated, we have negative charisma. To the extent that we fight back, we magnify our charisma. And if that means some of us are martyrs, so be it. Martyrs–God love them–are almost necessary for any successful movement.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

No, going into deep blue territory (blue cops, blue politicians, blue DA’s, blue journalists, blue militias) and getting in street brawls is dumb, as in high risk and low reward. If you have the will and way to do that, go do something more intelligent: rallies in red areas, large and organized demonstrations in DC or areas outside of the Blue Hive (ie not Berkeley, LA, Portland, Chicago, NYC).

Reply to  Educated.redneck
12 days ago

Rallies nobody will ever hear about and will do us absolutely no good. Meanwhile everybody sees us getting stomped in the streets. Nobody is going to sign up for Team Pussy, and “do something smart” is merely code for “sit on your ass in front of a computer and type valiantly.”

Major Hoople
Major Hoople
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
12 days ago

I hesitate to say this…not fedpoasting…but given the number of deer rifles, and well appointed sporting rifles in this country, someone is going to decide at some point in time, no need to be a martyr, just take care of business. I am not advocating this, but given the aggressive and tyrannical mode of the left, it will happen.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Major Hoople
12 days ago

Jeff Cooper recommended a version of this when dealing with rioters in one his books. He advocated using a ..22 cal rifle because they aren’t loud, and with all the noise the BLM crowd makes they won’t hear it. I noticed a similar tactic from the Rooftop Koreans using what looked like ,22 cal rifles. Great way of not calling attention to oneself.
That said it will probably come to this if Biden wins. ,There won’t be any safe places for the DR squishes to hide.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Major Hoople
12 days ago

Counter-revolution inevitably follows communist uprisings.

Reply to  Educated.redneck
12 days ago

Tell it to the Kulaks.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Major Hoople
12 days ago

Matt Bracken wrote a short story titled “What I Saw at the Coup”. Due to the MSM helping the antagonistic party in the story, the protagonists start picking off members of the media. It starts the worm turning. Check it out. It’s a good, fast read.

Guest
Guest
Reply to  Chet Rollins
11 days ago

Disclaimers will not save you.

You will not save you either.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
12 days ago

This faux revolutionary spasm ends with woke white womyn being raped by the vibrants they champion.

That ending is not too far off at this point.

Last edited 12 days ago by Dinothedoxie
Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
12 days ago

The novel Camp of the Saints ended with the government forcing white women to marry foreigners.
We’re seeing the first steps in social engineering already where it is seen as fascism to marry a man of one’s own race.

B125
B125
Reply to  Chet Rollins
12 days ago

Yes, it’s crazy how prescient that book was.

And the poor professor, he just wanted to grill (drink wine) and have sex!

Such things happen when men aren’t thinking about the future.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Chet Rollins
12 days ago

Miscegenation won’t be forced. Humans are status seeking animals. When racial intermarriage is of high value, women will choose it of their own accord.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  ProZNoV
12 days ago

War brides are absolutely a thing.

There are reasons the (((media))) has spent the last 40 years portraying White and black men in very specific, consistent ways.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  ProZNoV
12 days ago

It’s already happening. A black husband in a high-status field is a *huge* ‘get’ for Karen. Problem is he doesn’t stick around.

PJS
Member
Reply to  BadThinker
12 days ago

That Karen will get a wake-up call when she goes to a family get-together and the guys hang out with beers over TV and the girls group on the kitchen. Then she will see the warm “welcome” to the family ‘hood…

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
12 days ago

If only. Countless tales of globetrotting strong independent women spreading democracy or christian values or building schools for girls have found themselves in the cold harsh grip of vibrancy. And it almost always ends up reinforcing their fanaticism in some twisted leftist logic. Well the ones that get to keep their heads anyhow. You see these animals are merely acting out their oppression from generations of colonialism and various injustices thrust upon them by white males. The fanaticism they subscribe to provides for the forgiveness for all matters of violence and barbarism of invaders or distant exotics. What it does… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Screwtape
12 days ago

The twisted leftist logic of the globetrotting strong independent women is based on a set of notions that will not be moved or shaken by reality. To address or contradict their notions of how things work is to run into a brick wall of rationalizations, logical jumps, and plain denial and twisting of reality. They are a lost cause. As to identifying and attacking the ruler or figurehead of our opponents, IMHO there will be none to identify or attack. It will remain an amorphous leaderless movement, by design, and attacking it will be like trying to stab jello. That… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Dutch
12 days ago

No they have a structure and a command element. Now this segment is generally unreachable without a serious team effort… That said their functionaries who make this hell possible are all out there and easy to touch. From the talking head in media to their lawyers, foundation heads and corporate execs, bankers, academics etc.
Matt Bracken detailed this out in one of his stories and written about in the book “Unintended Consequences”
By the way it’s same tactic used by organized crime in 3rd world countries.

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Dutch
12 days ago

This is where the overused 1984 example works perfectly. Who was Big Brother specifically? Did he really exist? It did not matter ultimately – the party/ ideology would endure regardless.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Valley Lurker
12 days ago

The thing in 1984 though was that everyone else on the planet was on board with the same scheme. When a crisis hits control by “jello man” isn’t going o swing it.

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  Dutch
12 days ago

If Biden is our Kerensky, who will be our Lenin or Trotsky? Jello has no charisma.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Screwtape
12 days ago

Spreading democracy? How about just indulging in their own hedonistic fantasies, Eay-Pray-Loving their way to their magical brown man? That woman made bank from her whirlwind tour of gluttony, pride, and lust. Now, right on schedule, she’s a Lesbian.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
12 days ago

They deserve it and I hope that it happens.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
12 days ago

revolutionary spasm ends with woke white womyn being raped by the vibrants they champion.

Its already happening. Black-on-white rapes are already a thing. Why do people on this side continuously cling to the cope to a circumstance they imagine will happen is just around the pike when it’s already present?

Reply to  Forever Templar
12 days ago

Black-on-white rape seems to have been a thing since the days of the Reconstruction. It’s just what the Nuggras do.

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

They typically went out for jogs even in the days of yore!

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Forever Templar
12 days ago

You are correct.
Among blacks, there is pervasive hatred of Whites – ALL Whites – Woke or Deplorable. If a black is fixing to rape a White woman, he doesn’t care if she is Biden or Trump supporter. Her crime is that she is White.
White liberals don’t realize this and think things will go well for them in an America that is majority-minority. After all, they’re Good White liberals. No it won’t.

Last edited 12 days ago by Ris_Eruwaedhiel
BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
12 days ago

Meh. I wouldn’t say he hates her. He’s horny, and she’s hot. Let that guy in the future deal with the consequences – he lives in the ever present NOW, and he wants some.

The percentage that hate whites overlap somewhat here, but not as much as you might think, I’m betting.

Last edited 12 days ago by BadThinker
usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
12 days ago

Thus the magic blm signs in the front yard along with carefully painted blm rocks out by the mailbox. These stupid f*** actually believe their intense virtue signaling will confer immunity when the jogger rabble comes rumbling into their hood. It’s going to be a painful and most likely fatal lesson. It’ll be hard to have any sympathy or offer any protection – I certainly wouldn’t. Karma will be a bitch, bitchez…

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  usNthem
9 days ago

A BLM sign in the yard says many things. One of which is, WHITE PEOPLE LIVE HERE.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
12 days ago

While overall Blacks commit violent crime at about 7x the White rate, I find it fascinating that to look at inter-racial crime, even adjusting for the differential shares of the total population, black-on-white violent crime is 20-30 times that of white-on-black. The rape stats are even more lopsided; white-on-black rape is almost unknown.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Forever Templar
12 days ago

Aryan Brotherhood (a prison gang) got started because rape in Florida prisons were 96% black-on-white.

Last edited 12 days ago by Alzaebo
JustaProle
JustaProle
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
12 days ago

I disagree. So many are so deep in cognitive dissonance that they will just see it as a bizarre form of reparations. Similar to those people who chain themselves and prostrate before wakanda.

B125
B125
Reply to  JustaProle
12 days ago

Minneapolis voted bluer than ever before in 2020.

Of course we don’t know how much voter fraud there was. But there was clearly no great pushback. Many white people are sick and mentally ill

Reply to  B125
12 days ago

Then again, many whites have fled Minneapolis. Those who remain are the most demented of all demented whites.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Those who remain are the most demented of all demented whites.

Chilling. I like to think that I have been unfortunate enough to witness the depths of wokism first hand… but then again this bunch may be so wrathful they can only be destroyed in the fires of Mt Doom.

krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Hennepin County went 70-27 Biden – compared to 63-28 Clinton

Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
12 days ago

The Madness Feedback Loop combined with escalating numbers of Browns.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  B125
12 days ago

I heard it was 80,000 purchased votes in the Somali neighborhoods of Minneapolis (“Somali neighborhoods of Minneapolis”, how fundamentally weird is that?), at $800 a pop. That’s $64 million for a bought election, not exactly chump change. Just another dimension of the Medusa of voting fraud.

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Dutch
12 days ago

(“Somali neighborhoods of Minneapolis”, how fundamentally weird is that?)

True. Regular American blacks are one thing. We know how they got here and it was probably never realistic that we were going to “send them back.”
But the insanity of very recently importing large numbers of Somalis in recent times boggles the mind. Could anyone come up with a worse group of people to bring to America?

Chris
Chris
Member
Reply to  Federalist
12 days ago

Its. So weird. I just read somewhere that what passes for the Catholic Church has been a big part of migration. 40K per every Somali head they import

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Chris
12 days ago

Them and the freaking Lutherans.

Reply to  BadThinker
12 days ago

Lutherans importing looters.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Chris
12 days ago

The Lutheran Church is big on the scam.
https://www.startribune.com/how-did-the-twin-cities-become-a-hub-for-somali-immigrants/510139341/

A group of voluntary agencies, including Lutheran Social Service and Catholic Charities, worked with the federal government to resettle the refugees and help them find housing and jobs. Minnesota was a favored location

Fuck em. every time you see a Minnesotan rub their stupid faces in it.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Bilejones
12 days ago

Not a bad thing.
A reminder of why having power is nice.
You get power, you can ban an organization you don’t like and punish people hell whole groups where appropriate for wronging you.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  JustaProle
12 days ago

The “cause” control freaks believe that Whites colonizing stone age people is unforgivable but them doing to us right now is the height of morality. There’s no reasoning with this level of deranged piety.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Peabody
12 days ago

In a very real sense, the once Colonized come with time to colonize their onetime Master. Happened with once-Great Britain, and all its commonwealth countries around the world. USA began with both a domestic and imported Stone Age populations, and for extra flavor followed much the same strategy as the mother country.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  JustaProle
12 days ago

Bizzare form of reparations? Nah. It is a very traditional, time-tested form of tribute and war reparations from the conquered to the victor.

Herzog
Herzog
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
12 days ago

Are you sure the WWW won’t either truly enjoy it, or at least rationalize it as a good thing afterward?

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
12 days ago

I say expect senseless violent attacks on isolated whites ala Rhodesia and S.A.. Not necessarily farms but where whites can be targeted and help isn’t coming quickly from the police or neighbors. The media will hide it as best they can and when they must cover some atrocious attack, they will promote the attackers claim that the victims had used racially insensitive taunts to cover for their pets.

If you haven’t moved, or are in the process of moving, to a community of your own people… I don’t know what to tell you. Lineman is 100% correct.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Penitent Man
12 days ago

“…expect senseless violent attacks on isolated whites…”

You mean, “…expect *more* senseless violent attacks on isolated whites…”. I’m not aware there is a shortage of such attacks anywhere Blacks bump up to Whites.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  CompscI
12 days ago

Yes. Thank you for the correction. I should have said a semi-organized increase coupled with an attempt to legitimize the attacks as social retribution for claimed historic and institutional racism.

Take away the same: Go to where there Your People are and build community.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Penitent Man
12 days ago

YT will not be allowed to have their own communities anywhere in North America. Section 8 Joe has already made that clear.

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Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Judge Smails
12 days ago

There are means to discourage outside interference.

Lineman
Reply to  Penitent Man
12 days ago

Ahh you can’t reason with defeatism Brother…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Lineman
12 days ago

I know, Brother. Detract, but offer no alternative. Thus I keep my replies short (and I am a long winded MF, am I not?) Simply triage the spread of despair.

Lineman
Reply to  Judge Smails
12 days ago

So they don’t want us to live either so you going to stop living without a fight? That’s sad when you let someone else control your life without even putting up a fight…

Reply to  Lineman
12 days ago

Acting as though whites are helpless pawns who have no control over their future fills me with no small measure of disgust.

Reply to  Judge Smails
12 days ago

If we’re not “allowed” communities, we take them.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Penitent Man
12 days ago

This is happening now.

Chris
Chris
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
12 days ago

I just. Moved out of big blue suburb to the middle of nowhere. I went to the Million MAGA thing and DC, a place I use to go to all the time, was unrecognizable. A fleet of bicyclists taking up all lanes of traffic near Dupont slowly rode flipping people off. All the places I use to know are boarded up. I use to walk from down near the White House accross Lafayette park to an activity every Sunday. It was like a foreign country. Good riddance I say. I love the country. I’ll listen to symphony’s and opera on… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Chris
12 days ago

Good for you Chris! Now get to know the people around you. You may not like all of them but there will be good ones. We won’t ever build utopian communities, this world is fallen, but we can build ones that are decent and have a future that is livable.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
12 days ago

Young white hipster women flock to universities and blue cities to willingly consort with Negro bucks.

They don’t need to get raped…

Reply to  Xman
12 days ago

But we’re talking about white women in general, not just pierced, green-haired shrews with deep down daddy issues.

Chris
Chris
Member
Reply to  Xman
12 days ago

And I’m seeing a lot of interratial couples, more than usual. Just anecdotal, but still

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  Xman
11 days ago

Then they go back home and pop out their mulattos. Virtually every town in my state, no matter how small, has mulattos and even adopted trophies now. The mothers of the adopted ones, love telling tails of horrible racism that their beloved has been subjected to. It’s always some BS unprovable story of someone saying something-bla, bla..women are destroyers of civilization, they say..

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  Xman
11 days ago

Then they go back home and pop out their mulattos. Virtually every town in my state, no matter how small, has mulattos and even adopted trophies now. The mothers of the adopted ones, love telling tails of horrible racism that their beloved has been subjected to. It’s always some BS unprovable story of someone saying something-bla, bla..women are destroyers of civilization, they say..

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
12 days ago

It’s not that the people around the Pretender Biden want millions rushing the border in the hope of getting a promised amnesty. They are too stupid and short-sighted to think that far ahead

To be fair, depending on how high up most of these people are in the chain, it is highly unlikely they’ll ever face the consequences of a direct diversity injection. For the others, as they are fanatics they’ll be singing it’s praises even when forced to do the most debauched and terrible things by these new ‘citizens’.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

True only in part. The consequences will come in the form of international ostracism. Russia’s attitude toward our crumbling empire is about to become more widespread. It is hard to make a buck when investors and customers aren’t sure you can deliver the goods.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

No one can escape the diversity injection in my experience, one of the biggest misunderstandings of the past few years is that the elites can just run away and hide behind in their gated communities — sheltered from the effects of their decisions. In reality, the elites only live maybe a few blocks from the homeless and decay on the streets, at least in Los Angeles and nyc. They can’t escape anymore than we can. Their only escape is in their own heads. Perhaps why they’re going crazy. The wreckage they’ve caused, not just on the streets but in a… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Falcone
12 days ago

They think they can escape it, until they can’t.

Now they’re escaping states and cities like California and NYC. Turning their new states into blue shitholes too.

Eventually, all the states will be shitholes. You can escape it, until you can’t. That goes for conservatives too btw, who think they can just move to a farm and grill.

Lineman
Reply to  B125
12 days ago

I think conservatives moving now know they can’t just grill and farm but they still are mostly only using voting to make their point so we have a ways to go…Look at what happened in MT we turned it around and elected our first republican governor in 16 years…

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Lineman
12 days ago

You cannot buy 556 or primers in a 50 mile radius of me, which includes all your big box “outdoors” stores as well as indy’s and local chains, and haven’t been able to for months (I’ve checked). They aren’t just voting and hoping. Everyone is scared and sees a Big Bad on the horizon.

Lineman
Reply to  Educated.redneck
12 days ago

Yea people though are still in the defensive mindset though of stock up on stuff and vote instead of building and organizing…

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Lineman
12 days ago

They don’t have that ideology I’m always on about is why. Also Americans have been conditioned to be hyper individualists and to eschew even private social clubs and the like, too old school, too ethic and low class. Its changing though. I see MAGA/Trump is God’s Servant marches and stuff here in Cali quite often. There are also a great many glimmers out there of organization and action. The Left and Media (redundant I know) does everything it can to keep us from seeing it and to make even our most peaceful large scale actions seem wicked but if we… Read more »

Lineman
Reply to  abprosper
12 days ago

Its like turning a cargo ship Brother a few degrees at a time…

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  B125
12 days ago

That’s the glorious future, the goal:
Palestines from sea to sea,

From the Atlantic to the Pacific,
From the North Sea to the Mediterranean,

Fractuous tribes fighting for their slices, with none powerful enough to challenge the Davos class.

Matrix
Matrix
Reply to  Falcone
12 days ago

Niece lives in Jackson Hole. Estimated 30,000 people escaping California. Packed to the brim. Kanye and Kim bringing that diversity to Wyoming!

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Matrix
12 days ago

In a recent podcast Jim Kunstler had a great quip that Aspen, CO is now, “….a village of 7500 Ian Fleming villains.”

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
12 days ago

I rate this claim Very True. If a Bastille moment comes from the commie left or the hard right, I would NOT want to be anywhere near that area… Unless you’re part of the redistribution teams, who will do very well.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
12 days ago

In the 19th century, some wag (I have not found the souce) noted “Kansas City has a population of ten thousand souls inhabiting twenty thousand bodies.” 🙂 Disclaimer: this humor does not endorse KCMO as a locale to move to.

Chris
Chris
Member
Reply to  Matrix
12 days ago

No shit?!!

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Matrix
12 days ago

Jackson Hole wants to be the new Aspen, a lux getaway for the stars.
Good to hear that not only the Dirts are subject to Affordable Housing programs- unless we see the Cali refugees as advance scouts for the Horde.

ssbishop
ssbishop
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
11 days ago

Perhaps we need to begin installing an approved percentage of Section 8 housing in Jackson Hole. We could then have a lottery in Somalia and Nigeria and provide the winners with a roof and indoor plumbing in beautiful Jackson Hole. And, because they arrived as disadvantaged people, every one would get free skiing lessons in addition to medical care, and tuition-free college.

Reply to  Falcone
12 days ago

Diversity damages society in myriad ways–aesthetically, socially, economically–and the damage creates ripples that eventually will be felt throughout society. Nobody is totally immune. But, the wealthier you are, the less direct the impact.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

The Pretender Biden” – I almost spit my morning coffee out.

That’s some classic Zman right there.

MikeCLT
MikeCLT
12 days ago

Sheesh Z, you are making The Derb seem pollyannish these days. Not that I disagree.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  MikeCLT
12 days ago

Making John Derbyshire appear pollyannish is not difficult. His famed ‘talk’ about nogger reality was really quite mild, and his rationalizations about Jevvs and Han are endless.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  3g4me
12 days ago

Didn’t you know “the Talk” is black parents forced to explain to their doe-eyed chilluns about sudden, random bouts of police brutality?

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
12 days ago

(ps- sorry, 3g, but they’ve stolen that one too)

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Alzaebo
12 days ago

Yes, that ‘talk’ black parents give their kids was what Derb was referencing in his seminal article… hence the ‘nonblack’ version.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  BadThinker
12 days ago
BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  3g4me
12 days ago

He will never face reality on the China question as he has a personal stake. And he’s too old to answer the JQ honestly.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  3g4me
12 days ago

He’s married to an Asian woman, Much like with Fred Reed its an automatic conflict of interest.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
12 days ago

Several months ago went back and re-read “Eichmann in Jerusalem”. One takeaway was what happens when masses of underlings are given broad “hints” about desired outcomes but few direct orders. Add in that all are in competition with each other to climb the greasy pole of power and you end up with a flock of birds mimicking increasingly immoral and monstrous behavior.

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  thezman
12 days ago

A few days ago I quoted General Washington from his farewell speech concerning this very problem, to wit:

‘Let it simply be asked, where is the security for life, for liberty, for property, when the sense of religious obligation deserts the oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in the courts of justice?’

The answer of course is obvious.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  T. Morris
12 days ago

The obnoxiousness of quoting the Founding Fathers is in using the pomposity of the prose and verbiage as unnecessary rationalization.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  thezman
12 days ago

“This isn’t Vietnam, Smokey. This is bowling. There are rules”. But just highlights the inability of Leftists to engage in any second order thinking. One great amusement is when these people find out it’s a “two way range” and squeal like stuck pigs.

Anna
Anna
Reply to  thezman
12 days ago

Is it possible that fanatics are really bi-polars in a prolonged manic stage?
Hollywood has a proportionately higher number of manic-depressives than regular population, and most of them ARE fanatically against Trump and pro-Biden.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Anna
12 days ago

Hollywood has a higher number of somethings in higher up positions… though memory fails me what those are exactly. I do remember those somethings tend to corrupt what is good, entice the prurience present in all men, litigate against moral pushback, use their talents and treasure to foment decay, and leave a trail of broken and sexually used up goy behind them like a child drops candy wrappers. What were those called? Lord, but my memory. Must be getting older.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  SamlAdams
12 days ago

One takeaway was what happens when masses of underlings are given broad “hints” about desired outcomes but few direct orders.

That is why there is not one single official document about the Holocaust: it was organized by “a melding of minds”, as Raul Hilberg explained: nobody said anything, they didn’t talk about it in their letters or put it in their diaries, but somehow all Nazis knew that WWII was about killing Jews, so they all started building gas chambers more or less spontaneously, without any government orders.

And if you believe otherwise, you’re a Nazi.

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  Felix Krull
12 days ago

Wannsee Conference?

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  tonaludatus
12 days ago

The Holocaust Exploitation Corps wannsee the evidence if it undermines their reparations mining.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  tonaludatus
12 days ago

At the Wannsee conference there was a reference to a “final solution” – a term you might have heard before. The Nazis planned on expelling the Jews from Germany – initially to Madagascar but as the war increasingly made that improbable, to rump Russia, whatever that entity might be once the smoke cleared.

Nowhere in the Wannsee minutes does it say anything about killing Jews, never mind gassing them. It is another of those Hilbergian mind-meld things, where everybody knew it was really about exterminating Jews, but they were all using coded language because, well, just because.

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Chris
Chris
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
12 days ago

Oooo! Nazi here!

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Chris
12 days ago

.

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Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
12 days ago

I read something about Minneapolis yesterday that said 2020 had the highest murder rate of all time, breaking the record set in 1991. BLM, liberal misrule, and Somali immigration has done what Jeffrey Dahmer (killed 13 that year), AIDs, and the crack epidemic couldn’t do. The article of course blamed corona for the murders. They had the virus part right, at least, although it’s more like what drove the rage-infected monkeys nuts in “28 Days Later.”

Crispin
Crispin
Reply to  Joey Jünger
12 days ago

Milwaukee is the proud owner of the Dahmer legacy. Not MPLS.
Minneapolis was (mostly) pre-somali in 1991. A few Ethiopians – but that is a different sort of cat altogether.

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Peatrix Botter
Peatrix Botter
Reply to  Crispin
12 days ago

Cat or Khat?

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
Reply to  Crispin
12 days ago

Ah, I got those mixed up. The title of the article I read reads: “Milwaukee Just Broke Its Yearly Homicide Record. It’s Only November.”Thank you for the correction. The funny part is I had a friend in the Army who came from Minnesota and told me his mom worked at a diner near a chocolate factory and all the workers would come in there before or after shift. One was Jeffrey, a poor tipper who had a bad vibe. I guess since Dahmer liked to drill holes in peoples’ head to control their thoughts the left would have at least… Read more »

Crispin
Crispin
Reply to  Joey Jünger
12 days ago

All Dahmer ever did was have a few people over for lunch.

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Crispin
12 days ago

For Chinese – moo goo guy in a pan

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
Reply to  Crispin
12 days ago

And he wasn’t racist. That sounds like satire, but I actually saw that in a documentary. Someone asked him if so many of his victims were minorities because he was racist and he answered that No, it was just a matter of opportunistic predation. He was not racist. Cannibalism is better than racism in the eyes of our rulers. It’s crazy but I’m saying this with no irony.

Reply to  Joey Jünger
12 days ago

In this demented land, accepting the truth about blacks is worse than pedophilia and serial murder. And that is not a joke.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Joey Jünger
12 days ago
He might have just been partial to dark meat.  I tend to like chicken thighs and legs - what can I say?
The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Joey Jünger
9 days ago

Eating someone is something you shouldn’t do. But eating someone because of their race would be beyond the pale.

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  Joey Jünger
12 days ago

Nit: Can’t peg the 1990’s murder count in Minneapolis to Dahmer. Dahmer was a Milwaukee boy. Minneapolis and Milwaukee are cut from the same cloth, but each have their separate issues…

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Joey Jünger
12 days ago

According to Sailer, Carjacking is way up in Minne as well.

Fun times.

Reply to  ProZNoV
12 days ago

But crime is a GOOD thing. It is revolutionary transgression against systemic racism, dontchaknow…

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  ProZNoV
12 days ago

Some years ago, a Minnesotan told me the Norwegian Electrolux factory was now staffed by Somalis.

I hear the same story from Maine to North Dakota. They started in Atlanta, but then sent letters to their relatives saying the welfare benefits were better in Newburg, Maine, and the white people much less scary than the tribal African-Atlantans.

whitney
Member
12 days ago

My experience with the leftists in my life is that they are immoral and incompetent and they hate and fear the superior person who is both of those things and want to create a world where they feel Superior

whitney
Member
Reply to  whitney
12 days ago

The superior person that is moral and competent. Whoops

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  whitney
12 days ago

It seems liberals (and I only include whites as liberals, I honestly assume non-whites are just gaming the system for their advantage even if they express some b.s. political theory for their beliefs) are bifurcated. The middle-class and wealthier liberals tend to live completely isolated from diversity so postulate their moral stance from a safe bird cage. Poorer liberals, that live among the diversity seem to be shattered, mentally unstable, obese, self-mutilating, diseased wrecks. For the latter, I have no idea why that seems to be the case.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
12 days ago

Agree. It’s a sharp division, I see it also

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Penitent Man
12 days ago

I think its in large part because the cognitive dissonance of “not seeing color” and being treated like crap because they’re “whitey” cannot be processed, so they breakdown. When egalitarianism attacks, so to speak, the nervous system goes first.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Valley Lurker
12 days ago

Good theory.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Valley Lurker
12 days ago

At least in part, we mustn’t blame all of the way Afro-Americans treat us as mere “Hate Whitey.” Yes, the inter-tribal enmity felt for the “Other” is always operative, but the fact is, on the average, they treat their own kind rather abominably by our standards. This is supported by the Black violent crime rate, multiples of Whites (about 7x) and that the vast majority of violence is intra-racial. We really are at least two very divergent cultures.

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Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
12 days ago

I think you over estimate the motivation on the other side, Z. The minute ANTIFA or BLM run into determined resistance, they run, or they get their lights punched out. Watch the noggers playing the Knock Out Game: every time they attack, it’s an ambush, even on relatively easy targets. Any time they are chimping out en masse – the second a shot is fired, they take to their heels.
I am betting that soon after your side actually fires that angry shot, everyone will be wishing we had done it sooner.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Glenfilthie
12 days ago

Yes indeed. Joggers always seem to be ambush predators. Naturally in London, where ‘local Londoners’ shank each other with abandon, many of these things are caught on CCTV. All too often the pattern is the same: the victim rushed by a horde which then flees in multiple directions. From personal experience, a most joggerly move is to distract an opponent and then have another of your number sucker punch the victim. I should note that when I say ‘personal experience’, I was not the victim, but rather an observer who needed to pass through dodgy areas in the small hours.… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

Ambush and group predators – kind of like hyenas.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
12 days ago

The challenge is how to avoid the real muscle on the Antifa or BLM side: the cops, who exist merely to protect them from us. And the cops are not likely to scatter at the sound of the first shot. And the po-po have shown time and again that, while they have no interest in keeping BLM from burning down your house, they are keenly interested in making sure you can’t stop them. One of the biggest results of the Million MAGA March was the Normie realization that the thin blue line is on the other side. The Normies who… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  BTP
12 days ago

Normie is never going to figure out the cops ain’t on their side. It is one of the things that defines a person as normal. Normal people don’t see police as the enemy.
What I don’t get is why anyone, especially Proud Boys types, thought they could go into liberal cities and fight with the local antifa types. How many times does a person need to see the same movie to learn how it ends?

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  tarstarkas
12 days ago

Dead wrong dude. The Normies are waking up to the reality that the police are in league with the BLM Antifa types. What happened in D.C. was a major wake up call for them.
Same with the summer riots. They all saw the cops stand and do nothing. That was also a major wake up call.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Rwc1963
12 days ago

People were saying the same thing after LA.
Our cultural response to 9/11 was to prove how not-Islamophobic we are and to invite more Muslims. Our very first foreign war was against Islam.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  tarstarkas
12 days ago

The state and the people are separate entities. Problem is the people aren’t in control of the state. Media too.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
12 days ago

The issue is control. Our people are unwilling to take control and still under the delusion that a complex society can live without very tight controls. Hell half our guys will shoot at their own side for daring to suggest that we need economic regulation or State enforced social norms. Its the reason I think the American people would be best served breaking the US into smaller polities, each ethnically, religiously and culturally homogeneous with rigid border controls not so much to keep people in, you can leave any time but you can’t come back but to keep the rootless… Read more »

Reply to  tarstarkas
12 days ago

It ain’t 2001 anymore.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Rwc1963
12 days ago

Perhaps if we are to be a serious movement we need a more dispassionate view of policing. For myself, I look at them as an institution in a neutral light. They might as well be the postal service or the road service department. If you have a society you will have to have policing. I’m pretty sure we’ve either rooted out or converted all the libertarians here on this site. Or Zman has. Whichever. Let’s be adults. You can show me on the doll where the bad policeman thumped you or tell me about Officer DoRight saving your kitty from… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  tarstarkas
12 days ago

Normie is figuring that out very fast, especially considering the amount of pro police agitprop “copaganda” they’ve been fed for decades.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  BTP
12 days ago

Rural living makes it easy to avoid cops. You typically deal with sheriffs, who are elected, and their deputies. Cops are an urban thing.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Drew
12 days ago

I listened to one of those true crime podcasts a few month ago, maybe a year. This one was about a genuine child abduction and murder in Minnesota or Wisconsin or some place. Genuine nightmare shit, and the guy got away with it for a couple decades. Anyhow, the last couple episodes shift from a description of the event and how the local sheriff’s department failed to a general indictment of local sheriff’s departments in general. They’re generally incompetent and corrupt, see? And the only proper response in this podcast’s hallucinations was to replace them with administrative police who are… Read more »

Drew
Drew
Reply to  BTP
12 days ago

Lol, that’s pretty stupid. The problem with most rural law enforcement is not having enough resources to do detailed investigations of horrific crimes. Somehow this never occurs to urbanites, so failure is chalked up to incompetence instead.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  BTP
12 days ago

Sheriffs are no better than cops. Congress is full of people “accountable” to the voters too. The only real difference between the two is once in a while a good sheriff gets elected, just as there is the occasional Ron Paul in Congress. I think the real difference is that way out in rural areas, the cops have a different mindset. Mindset is the problem with cops. Everything they do, including, really, especially training makes things worse. They view themselves as a distinct and separate “we” from the pesky tax-paying American. They view their job as extremely dangerous (it’s not)… Read more »

BTP
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
12 days ago

Literally the only law enforcement on our side is that which happens to have been directly elected by the various counties. So, there’s that.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Drew
12 days ago

I’m tired of being pushed out of living in urban areas and into the country lie I’m a damned Kulak.
Given that 80% of our population is either urban or suburban , maybe we should consider making cities livable and functional as part of the DR platform.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  BTP
12 days ago

Challenge accepted. It’s time for the urban sniper and the rural militias to team up and form an insurgency. The signs are there, and Lefty is shitting his pants. People are bailing out of Twitter and Facebook and OyTube for Gab, Bitchute, and Parler. Mark Dice had an excellent piece up on CNN as they melt down over the fact that nobody’s listening anymore – even Normie has had enough of their shite.
If the cops are going to let noggers burn down Normie’s neighbourhoods – Normie will start shooting cops AND noggers.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
12 days ago

You’re not wrong. I think some of the caution is that these guys always envisioned a use of force that involved a carjacking or home invasion or armed robbery or active shooter. I’ve been in plenty of training classes where we spend time talking about what we should say to police after a defensive shooting (I was in fear of my life & acted to stop the threat, etc.) and how to not get shot when they show up.

I’ve never taken a class that discussed urban evasion techniques.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  BTP
12 days ago

Bury the motherfucker and don’t talk to nobody, about nothin.

Chris
Chris
Member
Reply to  BTP
12 days ago

What the heck is “fedposting?”

BTP
Member
Reply to  Chris
12 days ago

Fedposting is when guys write things that would make the FBI want to entrap them. Normie talking about how cops have made their choice and now have to pay the price – or some such thing – is a classic example.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  BTP
12 days ago

I thought almost the same thing: Fed agent provacateurs posting to try and get people to act out. Even on these anonymous forums, we need to be careful. You can get arrrested for saying the wrong thing. Incitement to riot, etc. A non-violent example of “criminal solicitation.” It’s not illegal to say “I want someone to [verb] my [noun.]” But you can go to prison in some Southern states for saying “I want you to [verb] my [noun].”

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Glenfilthie
12 days ago

There’s a huge LARP factor here: they’re less the fanatical ideologue of old and more of just a person playing at being a fanatical ideologue. While there are no consequences for their actions, they’re all on board, but you’d have trouble getting them to show up for a protest if their favorite TV show was premiering that night.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Glenfilthie
12 days ago

Yes indeed. One of the telling differences between the BLM/SJW crowd of today and the leninists of early 20th century is that the former never venture into rural areas at all, whereas the latter were constantly speaking to rural peasants to stir up revolution, even though they got beaten or injured on many occasions. Until the woke crowd starts venturing into the armed rural areas, my judgment of them will remain the same: paper tigers.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Drew
12 days ago

There are rural Leftists, the John Brown Gun Club and Redneck Revolt are out there,
This isn’t the era of big unions and wobblies though so the message isn’t doing that well.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Glenfilthie
12 days ago

True, the murmurations of hordes can be scattered with buckshot but the nature of those impulses nor the landscape in which they scatter and reform at will can’t be altered by just angry shots. Some kid is still sitting in jail while his one-armed attacker is fattening his go fund me account. No doubt that when force is met with force the spines of the dark starlings will reveal to be predictably hollow. But is the enemy really just packs of feral “teens”? While these thought exercises give comfort to the patriots in wait. I think they overlook important factors… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Screwtape
12 days ago

Genocide is my fear. You can’t wind up people for years on end and making the opposition look like sub-human creatures who need to be put down for the good of society without it turning to mass bloodshed.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Rwc1963
12 days ago

Its almost certainly inevitable at this point . Even if somehow both sides manage to avoid deliberate genocide , the systemic collapse of widespread warfare in a vastly urban society will result in tens of millions or more dead of violent crime , hunger , disease and now no longer treatable conditions.
The trick is to as I’ve said before toughen your mind up.

usNthem
usNthem
12 days ago

Well, if fanaticism is truly behind all of this election fraud as well as the covtardedness and all the other BS we’ve seen this year, no amount of provable fraud brought out by trump’s legal team will make damn bit of difference. The way to deal with it would be for Trump to go full dictator, declare the results invalid and start arresting and prosecuting the fanatics. I doubt he has the stones for that as he’ll be told if he does, the country would be consumed in fire – besides, who other than possibly us deplorables would back him… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  usNthem
12 days ago

It’s the only option.

I say only a 3% chance of happening. Trump isn’t really a dictator type, or a violent guy. Despite what the left says.

He should go for it though, they’re gonna either kill him and his family or at least throw them in jail when he loses.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  B125
12 days ago

I agree that the enemy will never let him and the family ride quietly off into the sunset. The more fanatic factions will demand blood or some other retribution. He might as well see it for what it is, start loading magazines, manning the ramparts and go out swinging, just like so many of the colonists in the British empire had to do in far flung lands when the natives rebelled – it was do or die – maybe both. Maybe he can see that now is this (former) country’s last stand and act accordingly.

Melissa
Melissa
Reply to  usNthem
11 days ago

Not sure Trump is capable. A more perfect candidate is a cross between Enoch Powell and Pinochet.

Arthur C.
Arthur C.
12 days ago

What do you guys make of the computer voting thing? Fanatics? Centrally coordinated plan? Multiple local efforts? Actually a glitch? Psy-op to distract from fraud elsewhere?

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Arthur C.
12 days ago

Apparently, it was carried out on a massive scale at the last minute because the people who were plotting the coup realized that Trump’s lead was enormous and growing. Fraudulent mail-in ballots might not be enough. Voilá! They pushed the button on the counting machines. And now, they have been caught. You know what comes next. Naked force.

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Crispin
Crispin
Reply to  Arthur C.
12 days ago

The hack peeps just need a secret backdoor to log in as root/ admin
During the course of a few minutes,
Insert a small code function.
Recompile.
Restart. Good to go.

The code is probably already there. Just needs a PIN entered to fire it up. A good remote scenario could probably do all the machines at once from joetard’s basement.
The algorithm is doing a simple thing for 6% Biden bonus or so:
START
Increase counter +1
IF counter > 11 
     THEN ( Trump -1) AND (Biden +1)
      SET Counter = 0
ELSE
GOTO START

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Arthur C.
12 days ago

There’s no such thing as a “glitch”. Computers only do what they are told to do by a programmer. So far.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Hoagie
12 days ago

Have no fear. Strong AI will not be upon us any time soon.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  BadThinker
12 days ago

It will go full fash in twenty seconds, like Tay and those pre-cog machines used to profile criminals.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Arthur C.
12 days ago

They had the system set to steal what they thought were enough votes in the key states, but around 9:00 they figured out that they had underestimated the size of the theft necessary. So, they stopped counting and scrambled to load up the Chevy Impala with enough fake votes to win. It was never a glitch, it was a weighting scheme to gradually deliver 1.06 votes to Biden for each 1.0 votes cast for Trump.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  BTP
12 days ago

This. Stopping the count in 7 states was blatantly obvious. They aren’t even trying to hide it.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  BTP
12 days ago

From what attorney Sidney Powell is saying, the algorithm has been reverse engineered by Trump’s people, so that some semblance of the degree of computer algorithmic cheating can be determined. Then there is the mail-in ballot issue, the “losing” of ballots marked for Trump, etc. I suspect that if you found a way to nullify all the cheating, this would be one of the electoral blowouts of all time. Frenzied political rallies at over-capacity, versus ten or twenty people turning out, consistently, is some sort of indicator of what the real world actually looks like…

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Reply to  Dutch
11 days ago
RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Arthur C.
12 days ago

Anyone who has (or knows a coworker) attended a Hacker’s Conference knows that the voting machine hack is a regular event. Most companies send their machines because they’re eager to discover undetected hardware and software vulnerabilities. IIRC Dominion doesn’t participate. The truth is that we could have a secure voting system, but neither branch of the Uniparty wants it.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  RoBG
12 days ago

The most secure voting system in the world still requires trusting the people (at the bottom) running the system. Which you cannot do in political machine-run cities.

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Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  BadThinker
12 days ago

Stalin understood that quite well.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  BadThinker
12 days ago

It’s not that difficult: paper ballots only and manual marking of the ballot, photo ID, no mail in voting and all counting to be done under public scrutiny, with no computers involved at any stage.

Profanon
Profanon
Reply to  BadThinker
12 days ago

A system where black ladies count votes will always have massive fraud. These cities always cheat.

ssbishop
ssbishop
Member
Reply to  Profanon
11 days ago

But, they can’t make change out of the cash register at the fast food outfit.

Delmar Jackson
12 days ago

Immigration has almost always been about obtaining 3 things; profit, power and punishment. The last is overlooked by many but the need to punish enemies is the strongest need of the three. Some years ago a high ranking UK official in the labor party publicly revealed that the reason labor was so in favor of endless 3rd world immigration was to rub their opponents noses in diversity and multiculturalism. of course multiculturalism is an interesting word. It is a seven syllable word with a simple seven syllable definition. mul ti cul tur a lis m Definition: Get ting rid of… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Delmar Jackson
12 days ago

Yup. Contrary to American Mythology, the primary motivation of immigration has always been cheap labor and diluting the political power of undesirables.
The story of Irish immigration fits this perfectly, especially as they were cannon fodder for the North in the Civil War.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Delmar Jackson
12 days ago

UK official in the labor party publicly revealed that the reason labor was so in favor of endless 3rd world immigration was to rub their opponents noses in diversity and multiculturalism. Yes. This mans name was Andrew Neather. I also believe that Peter Hitchens used this quote multiple times, particularly on BBC leftist talk show Question Time, I am not sure if the ramifications of the statement hit home. The simple reason is that many of these New Labour types do truly hate The Isles and her history. If you talk to them about the British Empire it is bad.… Read more »

Epaminondas
Member
12 days ago

You don’t stop counting ballots in five states simultaneously without some sort of co-ordination. You don’t need tanks in the streets and video of fat generals in white suits wearing a chest full of medals to understand that we are watching an attempted coup in real time.

These people are capable of anything. The Ruling Class wants us dead or enslaved.

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Lineman
Reply to  Epaminondas
12 days ago

Yea but we have known that for a long time Brother but it’s like Watership Down as long as it’s comfortable in the cage it doesn’t matter if one or two disappear every once in awhile…

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Lineman
12 days ago

Precisely. More prescient people have been warning of this (war on White people, culture, history, etc.) for decades now, and a few normies are just now becoming a bit more . . . cynical. And everyone here thinks that’s grounds for celebration. Most people will choose comfort over self reliance under any circumstances. There’s nothing new under the sun.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Lineman
12 days ago

I see it every day, all day.

Insulate, isolate and, then, let the moral preening begin.

Lineman
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
12 days ago

The sad thing is that we do have the history to look to that we can see how it all plays out and still we have those either in denial that it can’t happen here or those just too apathetic to do what is need to stop it…What Solzhenitsyn said about Stalin not being able to do what he did if people would of banded together and stood against him comes to mind…

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Epaminondas
12 days ago

The coup has been going on for 50 years. There’s very little practice difference between stuffing ballot boxes with forged ballots and importing million of non-Whites who will vote 2-1 in your favor.

In a democracy, immigration is a legal form of voter fraud.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
12 days ago

excellent point

Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
12 days ago

More specifically, third world immigration.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
12 days ago

I am beginning to lose count of the number of people who think that the old fanaticism of times gone by ‘can never happen here’. In what turns out to be of very little surprise, such people also claim that they ‘would have never gone along with all that’…

Recent events have demonstrated to me who will turn at the drop of a mask hat.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

I watched (former) female friends go into actual fits of rage at the mere mention of Trump and that was a year before he got elected. There’s been a virus unleashed on the populace alright but it doesn’t cause respiratory problems, it makes people insane. I agree with another commenter about getting clear of the blast zone as I’ve been witness too many times to the fanaticism.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Peabody
12 days ago

Fortunately, I keep no females as friends but I know what you mean. Had a colleague the other day railing about Trump – she made a strong threat against the man. She then got annoyed at me because I did not ‘know’ that Biden was the new Prez… allegedly.

This colleague just seems to have too much time on her hands. Most girls don’t have any decent hobbies or interests, so they latch on to politics to signal their virtue. Having actual interests exterior to work is a must for any man, keeps the mind clear, keeps the leftist out.

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

I assume washing clothes, cooking, cleaning house, or taking care of children do not count as hobbies, or interests that would use up all that spare time.

Lineman
Reply to  Peabody
12 days ago

Proving time and time again we can’t live with people like that so we need to be separating…

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

Excellent point. The average person’s lack of self awareness and foresight combined with ignorance and arrogance assures that whatever has happened before will happen again. I have always counted a very small number of people as my ‘friends’ because I have very high standards for genuine friendship – i.e. people I can trust who would never turn on me. Most people’s credulity will be repaid with exponential cruelty. And afterwards, the usual self-inflicted ‘fog of memory.’

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  3g4me
12 days ago

Heh. ‘fog of memory’, I’ll have to use that one in future. Your stance regarding friendship is all too true. I am the same. I have many acquaintances and the like, but friends? They’re much harder to find. In fact, the first question I ask when I meet someone new is: ‘How easily would this bloke shop me?’. I find white working class types to be far more resilient than educated middle class types. It’s not an ironclad test, but what can you do? True friendship is something that very few experience. And so few experience it because they never… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  OrangeFrog
12 days ago

Can’t help you there – I’ve never understood most people, nor most woman in particular (despite being one). I’ve always been someone who was independent and contrary minded, and I’m not afraid of solitude. Constant socializing or constant noise (recall acquaintances throughout school years who could not do anything without background radio noise on) drives me nuts. That said, I’m not a hermit. The idea of a tight-knit, rural White community sounds heavenly to me. Just have to keep working on my husband that the time is NOW.

Hilltop
Hilltop
12 days ago

AltHype has a good video on fanatics, whom he interestingly labels “causy people”–i.e., a certain personality type which is attracted to causes. https://www.bitchute.com/video/xOxH9fI5zk9I/ The thing that unsettles me is that (1) there will always be causy people; it seems to be an intergenerational human type. And (2) causy people often win, by virtue of their very fanaticism. It strikes me that perhaps the thing is not simply to defeat them–the fanatics, the causy people–as such, but to get some of them on our side and weaponize them for our thing. I don’t want to go into bad optics territory (*caugh*),… Read more »

Chris
Chris
Member
Reply to  Hilltop
12 days ago

Fanatic here!!!

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
12 days ago

It’s not hard to imagine them unleashing a Camp of the Saints event, for example, by reversing Trump’s immigration rules and inviting the world to their celebration. This is exactly what is intended. Everyone should take note of whether any of the candidates in the Georgia run-off address the issue, either side. Biden only can do so much via Executive Order. My guess is the issue goes unaddressed, the Left wanting to fool the rubes one more time, the Republicans too fearful of their personal consequences of promising immigration control. The most important thing to emerge from the Wikileaks emails… Read more »

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Tom L.
Tom L.
12 days ago

I was fascinated by the article below. It’s about a mob boss who simply filled out fake ballots for money. You have to take it with a big grain of salt. I suspect it’s untrue, and that the guy is just angling for publicity and a pardon. But if it’s true, it only proves Z’s thesis, in a way: that a guy who rigged an election merely for money would much more readily rat out the scam than a true believer. And the Democrats surely know that, which is why they would probably never go outside their left-wing “religion” for… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Tom L.
12 days ago

Buying votes is as old as Tammany Hall or the (insert big city immigrant mob boss name here) administration.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  RoBG
12 days ago

But back in those days most people wouldn’t give a shit what was going on in New Orleans, New York or wherever – now it’s national and it’s affecting everyone. It’s getting real close to crap or get off the pot.

Stranger in a strange land
12 days ago

“The fanatic, of course, has been in the middle of every man-made social disaster since the French Revolution”.
One might say it goes back +/- 1800 years before that if you consider the God-man Jesus Christ was crucified by the Romans at the behest of some…fanatics

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
12 days ago

Heh- and don’t forget Barabbas was antifa, on trial for inciting a riot that murdered a Roman soldier.

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TomA
TomA
12 days ago

Since we’re on the topic of reality, has anyone one noticed that there has been absolutely no push back against the tsunami of criminality that is washing over the USA? Presidential coup, unrestrained riots, election fraud/theft, Manchurian president-elect, DC double standard, no indictments or prosecutions, COVID driven pandemic to exterminate small business, fake news, in-your-face censorship, etc. If think the Jackboots aren’t coming soon, evolution has a dead-end for you and you get what your stupidity earns.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  TomA
12 days ago

No one in power believes Biden crushed Obama in votes

they’re not even denying there was massive fraud

B125
B125
Reply to  TomA
12 days ago

Hey, Karen, ready to get back to normal?

Hey, Boomer, ready to get back to normal?

They just wanna go to brunch, grill, watch NFL and not be the evil white racist guy. That will all go away when mean orange man is gone, right? Right??

I for one am looking forward to our “back to normal” but then again I’m kind of a masochist.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  B125
12 days ago

Yes, it appeared the Dem strategy was to keep beating the US people until they stopped trying to slip their chains.

Sadly, it seems to have worked on a disturbingly high number of people.

B125
B125
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
12 days ago

True, but it didn’t work on at least 70 million people

You and I are smart enough to know back to normal is a lie and a mirage but many people aren’t.

Last edited 12 days ago by B125
Lineman
Reply to  TomA
12 days ago

If think the Jackboots aren’t coming soon, evolution has a dead-end for you and you get what your stupidity earns.
I agree and add only that if you think you are going to face the Jackboots by yourself and win the same thing applys…

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Lineman
12 days ago

I wholeheartedly agree that fighting the Jackboots is stupid on steroids. My admonition is “do not paint a target on your back and make it easy for them to round you up.” Go dark. Just because DOJ/FBI never prosecutes DC criminals doesn’t mean they won’t come after you. Quite the opposite. They would fry Kyle Rittenhouse in the chair while letting Hunter Biden skate on treason, corruption, and pedophilia. That is the nature of the enemy we face. Do not underestimate the evil they can do.

Lineman
Reply to  TomA
12 days ago

You must not have a family because if you did you would know that there is no hiding from evil the only way to beat it is to stand and confront it…

TomA
TomA