The Cynical Phase

Note: I have a new post up behind the green door on the move Mr. Jones, which I recommend to those mulling over the current age. Learning about the realities of Soviet communism is a good palliative to those prone to optimism.


The Soviet Union, like all radical experiments, went through several phases in its roughly three generations of existence. The first phase, of course, was the revolution, in which the old order was toppled and a battle ensued to fill the void. This initial phase of revolution is always the one that attracts the most attention. This is when the great heroes of the revolution and the great villains of it are made. It is in this phase we get both Lenin and Stalin, hero and villain.

There is a phase that gets little attention and that is when the people come to terms with the irrationality of the world that has been created for them. One reason Stalin was able to send so many to their deaths or to labor camps is so many people kept thinking there was some rationality to the world being created. Some remained idealistic believers in the cause, while others became critics of the cause. They assumed the revolution would bring clarity and rationality when it brought only the opposite

In time, the people came to terms with this. The humor of the Soviet Union reflected the fact that one got along by accepting the irrational in the same way you accept that the grass is green or the sky is blue. You don’t think about it. The jokes were often about these daily contradictions and how the unfortunate were those who did not get the joke that was at the heart of those contradictions. In other words, the joke was always on the fool who was not cynical enough to anticipate the lie.

This is relevant in our current age as we may be past the revolutionary stage and into that time when the people adjust to the irrational. The legacy conservative media keeps pounding the drum about how “we’re lurching into socialism” when we have been a socialist society for generations now. There is no aspect of our economic life outside the grip of the now semi-permanent ruling class. Telling people otherwise is just part of the way the ruling class controls the population.

Of course, this reality is dawning on even the dullest people, so we are being told that the bad guys are planning a “radical revolution.” The truth is, that revolution is well past the planning stage. It has already happened. From top to bottom, despite party labels or rhetoric, the system is stacked with people committed to the great reordering of society into the egalitarian paradise. The expulsion of Trump from office like a foreign body is the proof that the organism of state is wholly alien now.

In other words, a revolution has occurred out of view from the rest of us and now we are seeing the revolutionaries step out of the shadows. This is not a lot different than how Stalin took control of the party and government. He quietly consolidated his hold on the party, while his rivals were thinking the revolution was still ongoing. By the time they realized what had happened, it was too late. This realization was probably penultimate thing that went through Trotsky’s head.

Now we are in the phase where we get used to the often-bizarre contradictions in the rules being imposed by the new rulers. Some are easy, like the fact that states have put mentally disturbed Jewish men in sundresses in charge of public health. These are ornamental positions, so putting a crazy person in the role allows the governor to display his piety at little cost. Until the Covid hysteria, no one had any reason to know their state had public health officials.

Other bits of the new normal have no explanation. For example, states are now telling people they cannot make noise in their home, as part of the alleged fight against the spread of Covid. In Europe, they are banning the sale of alcohol at certain times, claiming this is to fight Covid. Maybe they believe Covid hates loud noises and people get loud when they drink. It is insane, but it makes more sense than the official explanation, which is no explanation at all.

The lunacy of official policy will not always be humorous. The freedom loving Boris Johnson is now promoting a plan whereby Brits will be issued “freedom passes” if they comply with official edicts on Covid. For a long time, people threw around the word “Orwellian” to mean something they did not like. The English-speaking world is about to learn the real meaning of the term. Getting a freedom pass for doing exactly what the government has instructed is the very definition of Orwellian.

Another part of this phase where we come to terms with the madness of the situation is the acceptance of official silence. In a country with anything resembling an independent media, these officials would be asked to explain their polices. Boris Johnson would be asked about his Orwellian freedom pass scheme. Instead, the media is full of lectures about how we’re all in this together. You see, this is an opportunity to build back better, so you need to embrace this glorious opportunity.

Westerners have been trained for generations to think the media has an adversarial relationship with the government. This will change during this time. We will come to understand what the Soviet citizen understood. The official media is just that, official media promulgating the new lies. It’s value to the people is only in letting us know how to stay out of the camps and in providing a laugh at the absurdity of living in a society based on obvious lies. Everyone becomes a cynic.

That is something else we will learn. Pessimism is not the opposite of optimism. The man who is sure the end is near is really just another type of optimist. He believes that soon, his struggle will come to an end. The opposite of optimism is cynicism. Both the optimist and the pessimist are willing to accept the moral framework as stated. Their actions and understanding of the world are tightly bound by the orthodoxy. Both the optimist and the pessimist give up their agency to faith in the rules that govern them.

The cynic, in the context of an authoritarian society, accepts that there is no inherent logic in the system, other than to insulate those who prosper from their position. The cynic accepts that there is no truth in the system and the outcomes are random, based on the changing desires of the people you interact with in the system. The cynic knows there is no truth in a world of lies, other than his own acceptance of it. It is in this phase we are in now where we learn that you can never be cynical enough.

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OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
1 month ago

This realization was probably penultimate thing that went through Trotsky’s head

Good one, I’ve banked that for a rainy day.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

I’m still laughing at that line. It’s worthy of the best Soviet-era jokes.

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

Hmmm…apparently we’re thinking the same thought. One of us should probably be concerned.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

it’s going to be a long wait before you get chance to use it 😛

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

I’ll tell it to you next year in Gulag.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

haha very good, well played 😛

grandee
grandee
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

right before his head was bashed in

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  grandee
1 month ago

Not saying that part is what makes it a funny joke.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

“penultimate” is what makes it funny

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
1 month ago

We’re fast approaching the point where the political elite issue their virtue signaling edicts, the media slavishly hammer them home. And then everybody ignores them entirely.

In CA we have police departments across the state issuing official press releases that they will not be enforcing various aspects of the governors edicts. That’s upstream from the street level where cops know it’s all nonsense and don’t want to bother.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
1 month ago

Interesting. I saw similar contradictions and confusions when I journeyed by train into London yesterday. Certain rail operators have signs say ‘You must wear a face mask’, and immediately under the words ‘unless you’re exempt’ appear. It is so easy to flout that nobody bothers to enforce it. The London Underground signage was slightly different, stating on individual billboards ‘Wear a face mask’. One would then see other billboards saying that ‘Some disabilities are invisible’ – a nod to those who cannot wear the mask. There are so many contradictions and loopholes that even the authorities seem not to care… Read more »

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

Just like the late Soviet Union, no one really believes in any of it, top or bottom, it’s all just going through the motions, at all levels. Personally, I’m rooting for the next major solar flare – then we’ll REALLY see a great reset.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Altitude Zero
1 month ago

I am not really up on solar flares. Would this fry our electronics or our skins? Or both?

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

Electronics. Good bye, Big Tech!

jim regina
jim regina
Reply to  Altitude Zero
1 month ago

Including BitCoin!!

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago
abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

Get hit with a big enough one and every computer and other electronic device other than rad hardened ones gets fried.
Downside of that is , half the population starves to death since the trucks don’t run and the GPS locked tractors don’t work.
If electricty still works which is a big if, we go back to 1960 or so sans TV and radio. If not 1820 and 90% of the global population dies.
In any case I wouldn’t count on it to save you. You want this dystopia to end, learn to organize and take power.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

Blimey. Another hope dashed to bits. **sigh**

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

“One Second After” a good fiction book about this. By William Forstchen; wrote it after the EMP Commission released its report to Congress a decade ago. Good thriller, but chilling as heck.

Ted Coppel also wrote a book called “Lights Out” that’s just facts and scenarios.

Bottom line…worst case scenario is 90% of the US population would be dead in a year.

No point prepping for it. The hordes and the military/cops are just going to take your stuff away using trained violence.

One bullet solution applies.

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

On 09-02-1859, a huge solar flare was so disruptive the discharge melted telegraph wires in many areas. It is conjectured that if such were to happen today, the damage would be immense. Likely it would literally fry the electric grids and who knows what other electronic devices. a “Dark Angel” scenario is not that far-fetched.

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Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Altitude Zero
1 month ago

Solar flares? Are the aliens gay now, too?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Lanky
1 month ago

Aliens not required. Mother Nature has some very nasty tricks up her sleeve. The only reason we’re here is because things like big (multi-mile) rocks only fall to Earth at intervals measured in hundreds of millions, billions of years. In contrast, huge solar flares are probably much more common and didn’t pose a threat to pre-industrial humans, but once you string wires, the equation changes somewhat.

David Wright
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Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

I read the memoirs of a American caught up in the Soviet terror in the 30’s. The randomness of the nightly wakings from sleep, beatdowns, interrogations and then the rare kindness broke many minds. We all know the Orwellian tortures and mind control. To see it coming more into fruition now really shouldn’t shock us, but it does.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Stalin introduced an element of irrationality to his terror that made it even more terrifying. Often the most loyal lower-level party member was arrested, while a local nuisance was allowed to be free because he was “a poet.”

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
Reply to  Jack Boniface
1 month ago

There’s the case when Stalin, arrested a guy, sentenced him to death for “Anti-Soviet Activity” , then commuted his sentence to life in the GuLag, then released him, gave him a mid-ranking job in the Party, then presented him with a medal, all without the guy ever figuring out what was going on. As noted above, the arbitrariness is part of the punishment.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Altitude Zero
1 month ago

This is instructive on what to do when the Eye of Souran falls upon you. Say nothing, do nothing, demand nothing, offer nothing, go still and mute. The arbitrariness of what will be done to you can only be made worse, not better, by responding or demanding. A hardcore version of what your lawyer tells you what (not) to do when the cops pick you up or interrogate you.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Boniface
1 month ago

Then real poets, such as Osip Mandelshtam, were destroyed because they recited a verse at a party–that was never even written down–which reflected poorly on Stalin (the Kremlin mountaineer with the rollicking cockroach mustaches).

Last edited 1 month ago by Ostei Kozelskii
Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Someone else said it but Russians were accustomed to autocrats and being treated like peasants. It’s a different situation.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Further, if this is the demographic age who gives a crap about these weirdos and their ideology? Or one’s own ideology when you get down to it? It’s just another way of fighting and losing on their terms. Just throwing it out there.

Last edited 1 month ago by Paintersforms
Sandmich
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

This is thing isn’t it. All these tweets and proclamations, etc. coming from the enlightened should be preceded with the text “All things being white-“, but it’s not.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Sandmich
1 month ago

That’s also why I’m not a fan of the national socialism nostalgia. Feeds right back into ideology.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

If I got this right, ideology is exactly what we need. Its just NSDAP ideology is not the right one.
Take power, use power, achieve useful goals. Nothing else works to impose order on a chaotic system.
To do that and to get out of this mess, you must have an ideology and a good one. Leave me alone is a temper tantrum not a goal.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

‘It’s OK to be white’ isn’t an ideology and is a hell of lot more effective than dismantling critical race theory. What’s a stronger anti-immigration argument than ‘I want to be around people like me?’ They can call you a nazi for saying self evident things, but they look ridiculous. Besides, the ideology wars are settled as Z has written. Liberal democracy won.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

That’s excellent rhetoric and a useful tool. Ideology though contains purpose and dialectic as well. Also Liberal Democracy is kind of what a revised republic would still be at least after the interregnum. However most LD nations are falling into police states which is a failure state for it. The next stage is going to authoritarian with tragicomic attempts to keep the system alive. That is what the entire COVID hysteria is, masks as social religion and a vast distraction as the entire great reset simply fails and the ultimate depression levels everything. Even if we pull off a last… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

My opinion, ideology is inherently leftist. It’s always going to lead to some form of totalitarianism because somebody’s going to start playing God.

Also my opinion, there’s no right without religion. Without a higher power there’s no limit to what people will attempt.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Might not be wrong but you won’t get Christendom in the US for several centuries even if demographics pan out in any case
Christianity is a dead letter in Europe and no amount of social grandstanding in Eastern Europe or Russia has done a thing to change that.
They’ll revert to something to animism if they stay European which I think they will, if not they’ll die.
For the near future though, no free social capital , take power, use power or be a slave.

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

Hard to argue, however, law of the jungle will bring many to religion.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Perhaps. It might not be the one you want though.
A home altar to household gods, ancestors works well enough for families and tribes but not so much for big men who think they ought to rule over people who aren’t like them. Its not the kind of social capital complex societies need.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

Depends on the timing. Christianity is still deep in our subconscious.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Apologies that was meant for comment below.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

Sadly, agree with your last statement. From my spotty readings of history, no matter the earlier circumstances, the people will never tolerate chaos for long. They will demand order, which allows “the man on the white horse” to arrive, and impose one form of authoritarian rule or another. The only counter-example I can think of would be the breakdown of Rome. But even in the Dark Ages most areas would have regional rulers, minor kings, dukes, whatever. You might just be a serf, but this implies a stable place in a societal structure.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Being a serf with a decent lord is in some ways better than being an atomized consumer.
A Lord has obligations to you, see you in at least some cases as his people and allows you your traditions.

Last edited 1 month ago by abprosper
Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Liberal democracy won.” So it’s the end of history? Again?

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

True story 🙂

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Paintersforum,

I don’t follow. Please elaborate.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 month ago

Capitalism leads to communism. It’s well established. The best you can do is stand athwart history yelling ‘no!’

Play their game and lose. Play your game, like we did in ‘16, and win.

I had a sense then the times had changed. I still think this is the death rattle of the old age.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

I get where you are going. Capitalist efficiency leads to Communism. If I don’t have any work because the top guys decided a machine, a foreigner or whatever efficiency measures make the top people more profit people learn eventually that in actuality will be better of with an assigned job at People’s Bread Factory#427 . Even if its really same as the old boss at least I’ll get my allotment of bread and whatever else I can steal to trade off. In any case I agree with you COVID 19 is killing the old system and like any dying empire,… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

Yep. Efficiency, competition, eventually monopoly. Give people scraps, tell them we’re in it together. Nice racket.

Last edited 1 month ago by Paintersforms
Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Play their game and lose. Play your game, like we did in ‘16, and win. Did we win that or were they just unprepared? And made the appropriate hamfisted fixes this time? Take heart Brother, enough people were willing to elect an outsider goofball that spoke out of both sides of his face because he promised them 1/2 of what they wanted and delivered 1/10th. After 4 years of mediocre achievements, 5 years of every media organ screaming orange nazi bad, and pulling all the stops, they still had to put the fix in. This doesn’t bode well for them.… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Penitent Man
1 month ago

Definitely a win. Then the whole thing got subverted and we ended back to chasing the black vote (never happen as long as Republicans are seen as the white party), hoping hispanics become good Republicans (too cynical about politics), and women…

Still had to resort to censorship because they had no answer. They got whipped.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Capitalism leads to something, but I’m not sure it’s communism. Rather, it seems to lead to a commodified, administered society, where everything, including culture, is subjected to market forces, and if found wanting, cast upon the ash heap. But, of course, there is another massive factor in all this: anti-white racism. It is not at all apparent that capitalism is the tiger and AWR the tail. Could well be the converse.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 month ago

A kind of totalitarianism at any rate. In the ballpark.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Meh, the Right is constantly paralyzed with fear of taking power they might somehow somewhere misuse it. Seems like horse hockey to me and if they were thinking it through, they’d worry about their creeping totalitarianism after they get power rather than throwing away the chance of a hypothetical. And yes we can afford that luxury as I can’t find any non theocratic Right Wing states that have gone down that route. A set serious of goals, of duties of the citizen and the state might not be perfect but its not meant to be and unlikely to end up… Read more »

Last edited 1 month ago by abprosper
Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

They want to be in the cool crowd. Seems to be changing, or at least I hope. The hardest part will be becoming racist in the way it’s understood, i.e. whites for their interests. Which isn’t actually racist of course.

I get it. Normie’s appetite for indignity makes me want to throw up.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Some of them are spiteful mutants Of the ones that aren’t Normie middle class or above has every reasonable material need met. All that left is status seeking and sucking up the indignity is high status. It will be our job to change that. If we manage to do so not only do we take power but if we do a thorough enough job we won’t have to break the last group. Its common historically for this to happen and for foes to be deliberately degraded. The Reds did this a lot and the enslavement and rape of Boudica by… Read more »

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Oh is it? How many of our fellow citizens would let their children be molested by the Scranton Sniffer to be able to keep seeing pictures of the Kardashians on antisocial media? Exactly how accustomed have we all become to the taxes, the “taxes,” and minor indignities of everyday public life? Why don’t you go to your local DMV and tell the clerk “hurry up, nigger (hard R), and tell me what happens. Go ahead, we are so accustomed to having SO much freedom. I’d think for most young white males, being treated as a peasant would be an upgrade… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Educated.redneck
1 month ago

They’ll come around. We have more pride so it’s frustrating.

Juri
Juri
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 month ago

Well, most savage revolutions happened down here and even today our autocrats listen people much more than your democrats. Our neighbourhood has never been very law abiding. But we are practical people. half kilogram of TNT under car or competent gunman are much cheaper than courts or elections. Personal responsibility delivered by Eastern European methods gives wonderful results to keep any kind of bosses at bay. Our Nationalism operates like Antifa and nobody down here need foreign labor or refugees or whatever.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Juri
1 month ago

Nice 🙂

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Juri
1 month ago

Are you accepting immigrants from the USA? 😀

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

From my experience in the bureaucracy I found that the absolute worst thing you can do is not to enforce rules for a time, and then suddenly start enforcing them. People become quite resentful and even the enforcers aren’t sure what changed.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 month ago

I found precisely such an example in my recent listening to Buddhist audio programs. I had to look up one just to verify what a tape said. The source text is the Pali Canon, the Digha Nikaya 26 “The Wheel Turning Monarch.” Of course this teaching is a legend, but the relevant part: The monarch’s job was to take care of his people, including feeding them (I guess they had socialism in 500 BC in India.) The point of the story though: A King failed to provide food, so people began to steal or rob. Twice a man is brought… Read more »

Barn Jollycorn
Barn Jollycorn
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Welcome to Kafka World.
We’re all ungeheures Ungeziefer now.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Barn Jollycorn
1 month ago

Damnation! We’re already in the consolidation phase of the revolution? I thought our side were going be the revolutionaries. Now it’s just cynically trying to keep our heads down to avoid the re-education camps at best or gulags at worst? Man, HTF were things ever allowed to get to this point? These first two holiday season posts are taking a darker turn…

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  usNthem
1 month ago

 I thought our side were going be the revolutionaries.

“The parting on the Left is now a parting on the Right, and the beards have all grown longer overnight.”

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  usNthem
1 month ago

I have a very carefully produced list of names, that is now apparently worthless?? when did the public executions take place?

BTP
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

It’s a curated list. The kind of list other people see and say, “Well! Look what this fellow has done here! Some of these names were unexpected, but see how they all fit together!”

Rich
Member
Reply to  usNthem
1 month ago

The Long March Through The Institutions has already taken place and it was quite successful. Where have you been?

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Rich
1 month ago

Trying to make money. The American Right a few exception including most here, cares about nothing else.
A huge chunk of them hate the moral right more than the Left does because a moral society puts limits on how that money can be spent , no more rent boys for them and some kinds of social signalling and expects people to behave well.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

Yeah, when you have a family, you do try to make living to take care of them. Is that a problem or novel idea?

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  usNthem
1 month ago

No. Don’t be stupid. Society goes beyond “muh family income” and if you can’t see pat that, you end up pasty.
Boomer Trash and hell later gens too are the kind of people who hire an illegal alien instead of a neighborhood kid and than brag about saving on wages and the supposed better work. After they wonder why junior just voted for Bernie.
A pro-tip , cheap wages and weak moral means a lousy country and if you care about your country and its obvious the Boomer trash and laters never did than you fight that.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

Abp, you know we’re mainly on the same side here, but you’re making a lot of assumptions about “boomer trash” & laters. Personally, one’s first responsibility is to one’s immediate family – to see they’re well taken care of and protected – not to the detriment of broader society, but to successfully integrate our progeny into the society as we see/think it should be – not to the degenerate crap that surrounds us.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  usNthem
1 month ago

Boomer trash =/= all Boomers.
Still given the shape society is in and that it appears that generation was so busy living the good life or was too busy with whatever they did nothing to prevent much less reverse the mess we are in forgive me if I hold much of that generation in some contempt
Bill Joel might be right in that y’all didn’t start the fire but you didn’t put it out either and a lt of you just poured gas on it.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

I’ve said before that the 60’s were a disaster decade for this country. That being said, I was 10 years old in ‘66 and just having a great time as a kid growing up in a White city – but even then I hated those fucking leftard hippies with their VW vans, peace signs and Woodstock bullshit. By the time I came of age in the late 70’s, I got my first real job, got married and had a couple of kids. Spent the next couple of decades working to make a decent living and raising two individuals the best… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Rich
1 month ago

No s***. I just figured we’d be eventually ousting the f****** with pitchforks at the least, but more likely semi-autos.

Paul Bonneau
Paul Bonneau
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Inconsistent (or asymmetric, or dual-standard) enforcement is certainly becoming evident. But the really new thing is trying it in the most heavily-armed nation in the world. How many dead cops and politicians does it take before inconsistent enforcement becomes no enforcement? Not many, I think. Shortly after that will come a retrenchment, where cops (other than reasonable county sheriffs) work only in a few disarmed cities, and outside of that, everybody goes armed all the time.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Paul Bonneau
1 month ago

Things will stay peaceful and compliant, until they don’t. The swing from one to the other might be a bit dramatic…

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Paul Bonneau
1 month ago

This is a cope. When looking at the 2nd amendment guys, I see no reason to hope they will ever do anything.
They have drawn their line in the sand at the guns themselves. Why would any tyrant ever take guns away from people who use them as pacifiers? The rationale behind the guns will drift further from tyranny to self defense to heirloom. We’re already very close to the self-defense rationalization now.

Severian
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

Because they can’t help themselves. As pretty much everyone here has said at some point, all the Left would have to do is refrain from X and they’d get everything they want. Orange Man himself could have been their wet dream of a president, had they simply decided to praise him for “growing in office.” Instead they went nuts, and here we are. They are religious fanatics, guns offend Moloch, therefore they will come for guns.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Severian
1 month ago

there is a reason things went this way, we just don’t know what it is/was.

BTP
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

Shut up. Maybe many of them are the sissies you say they are, but many millions of this simply know what it means to draw a weapon on the government and their own neighbors.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

#triggered What neighbors? The ones globohomo moved in and now constantly agitates about how evil their white neighbors are? Those men we honor in songs, statues and pictures of on our money started a revolution for far less. The AVERAGE American pays higher taxes than the serfs of Medieval Europe paid. One of the complaints in the Declaration was King George’s riling up the Indians against them. “He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all… Read more »

BTP
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

The Fathers of the nation didn’t start a revolution for less. In fact, they didn’t start shooting until the king literally came for their guns, so there’s that. For that matter, they weren’t planning on shooting anyone at Lexington, it was just supposed to be a show of force.

Same thing with the War of Northern Aggression – there were lots of equally significant things happening prior to the outbreak of violence

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

The police are now strip-searching people on the side of the road in incidents that look like more like a rape than police. All for marijuana. Police can flat out execute people with total impunity. Daniel Shaver is a fine example. The law has been weaponized. Selective prosecution has unleashed anarcho-tyranny nobody ever thought was possible. It’s to the point where anyone not an insane leftist can be attacked in the streets with total impunity and any effort at self defense from said maniacs lead to long prison sentences. “Border” checkpoints are now routinely installed far away (IIRC, it is… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

BLM got one thing right, ACAB. All Cops are Bastards and a few of them were willing to take the fight right home to them. Worked pretty well too. Not recommending it as its illegal and we aren’t like that but if we were and The Right was willing to behave that way, well society might crumble but you know we might get some justice too. Problem is we have laws from a previous society , a more moral one and aren’t willing to embrace actual liberty ans forgo most laws, You want PCP? Knock yourself out. I’m packing a… Read more »

dong
dong
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

There is a time and place for everything. The time is approaching. One must accept their death before acting.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

That is a bullshit cop-out. I get the lack of organization and forgive that , we all suffer from it. I respect the reluctance. Thing is if you won’t do what is needed as your fucking country is stolen all the high minded “muh neighbors.” talk is just high minded excuses for yellow cowardice. Let me give you a hint, the soap box is useless and censored, the ballot box is stolen right out from under you noses and Communists plan to take your. This isn’t America anymore and no amount of vote harder will fix anything. Ever. If you… Read more »

BTP
Member
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

What are you talking about? The criticism is that nobody has started shooting anybody yet and therefore, so they say, the whole bunch of 2A guys are a bunch of pussies.

You are not saying anyone should be stacking bodies now, so I’m not sure who you are disagreeing with.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

I’m saying that we haven’t seen any evidence that anything no matter how bad would cause them to start stacking bodies. Maybe its a slow boiled frog effect or something I don’t know but the mighty right allowed well lets see The US to turn family formation inside out and cram gay marriage down people throats. Nope. Create a fake justice system that includes torture via solitary confinement in SuperMax as a punishment. Nope. To actually and effectively suspend do process via plea bargain or in actual terms via the NDAA Nope. Allow mass private manipulation of the election and… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  BTP
1 month ago

The criticism is that nobody has started shooting anybody yet and therefore, so they say, the whole bunch of 2A guys are a bunch of pussies. I ABSOLUTELY did not say that. I said “they have drawn their line in the sand at the guns themselves” and “Why would any tyrant ever take guns away from people who use them as pacifiers?” Do you even dispute this? I do not recommend or even advocate anyone do anything. And I most certainly never said or implied or even hinted at, that anyone should start shooting anyone else, let alone cops or… Read more »

Takashi Sheffield
Takashi Sheffield
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

This reminds me of something I saw on Usenet almost thirty years ago, written by an American Indian: “The Constitution is the White Man’s ghost shirt.”

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Takashi Sheffield
1 month ago

Damn that hits home.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Paul Bonneau
1 month ago

Interesting! See my reply to Diversity Heretic several posts above.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Paul Bonneau
1 month ago

Winner winner
Chicken dinner

Pay the man!

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

In re: “Build Back Better”/”Great Reset” In the USSR, mass arrests happened when targets weren’t met. Peasant farmers or engineers..it make no difference. The PLAN couldn’t be wrong..therefore, those arrested were deliberate saboteurs. Called “The Wreckers“. Another category arrested: “The limiters“. Say you’re an engineer who refuses to authorize overweight trains on the rails, know that it would lead to failure. You’re also a saboteur (the plan can’t be wrong, remember). The crew of the train that derails?…arrested for being “A Wrecker”, if they survived the crash. Bottom line: Article 58 of the criminal code could be so broadly interpreted… Read more »

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  ProZNoV
1 month ago

I am just getting through Gulag Arch Vol I regarding The Wreckers & show trials, Article 58. Its nuts to read it and look around and make connections to our present situation. When I point this out to normies I do give them the momentary jolt of putting it into their terms of “oh well, this documentation won the Noble Prize, so now that is a conspiracy rag too huh, its all just bs right.” They just put their head back in the sand, right or left ideology it doesn’t matter, that is the go to move.

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Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

That’s the entire point of Anarcho-Tyranny. You’re always guilty of something, so when they decide they want to get you they have a whole host of “completely legitimate” offenses you have committed to choose from. The fact that those offenses are usually disregarded is no defense when they decide to target you.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

If we won’t organize against tyranny we deserve what we get.
And yes the good guys will lose people , you might die. If you are so afraid of death, you never have a good life anyway.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

See also, anarchotyranny; and see “por encourage les autres”

Nikolai Vladivostok
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

I’ve lived in a totalitarian state, that’s how it works. They lull people into thinking they can get away with something in order to figure out who to arrest next.
When his grip became tighter, the Boss deliberately tried to incite trouble for the same reason. Turn the water off for a month, cut the power during the World Cup etc.
It’s a trap.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Nikolai Vladivostok
1 month ago

The whole thing still falls part no matter what.
Ceaușescu tried to rape his way to population growth and figured kids didn’t need rearing that cost him his life once people figured out the scam.
The Berlin wall also fell as did the USSR.
We’ve learned from those mistakes so we may need a hefty push. So be it.

Sam
Sam
Member
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Thats definately happening with the masks

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

We are probably heading for the Latin America style police, who will look the other way for a minor fee. Or arrest you for bribery! You just can’t win 😀

1UnknownSubject
1UnknownSubject
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

“Gaol”? What’s the joke in using this term which is an archaic version of jail?

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

Maybe somebody can answer this for me and tell me I’m wrong, but that randomness is exactly what I’ve always taken away from the terror inflicted by the commies. It seems the left sees Nazi boogeymen everywhere , but my reading of history is that the Nazis were nowhere near as capricious in their “terror” as the commies have always seemed to be. They (the Nazis) had declared state enemies and were ruthless in eliminating them, but it was very clear which side of the fence you were on and that didn’t really change randomly. This is why I’ve taken… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

These things, the indifference locally, the slipshod manner in which they are being imposed, are indications that COVID orders are not coming from one’s local or even national government who have some understanding of the place but from a centralized somewhere else with little understanding of the place

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

I hope your friends, very politely, of course, ask for and make a record of the names of the filth making these checks.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Bilejones
1 month ago

A good point. I had thought about this, but I am not sure they are at this stage yet. Instead of being deeply suspicious of these people, a few kind words lull them back into a false sense of security.

Member
Reply to  Bilejones
1 month ago

One encouraging sign – yesterday at my new job I overheard some people raging about Kate Brown (worthless degenerate Oregon governor) issuing another one of her royal edicts. She now dictates that people can not have more than 6 people over for Thanksgiving and has actually encouraged people to turn in their neighbors for violations. One of the guys was overheard to say “snitches get stitches”. It’s probably just bluster – this time. If this kind of arbitrary shit goes on much longer you will start to see a shadow government forming that will issue reprisals for rats and Karens.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

In my area, anarcho-tyranny is in full effect. The stores brutally enforce mask rules while not stopping shoplifters in order to appear not racist. Traffic cameras are everywhere while unregistered ATVs roam city streets in large numbers with zero enforcement against them. Huge “soda” tax (all liquids except alcohol and milk) but foodstamps are not taxable.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  tarstarkas
1 month ago

what happens if you loot without a mask?

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

A very stern warning. And if that very stern warning is ignored, they will get an even more very very stern warning next time.
Besides, the looting was mostly peaceful.

Mockingbird
Mockingbird
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

In San Francisco, sad to say, the reality is that curfew/masks/isolation is not enforced against the homeless, and people wander into stores all day stealing without being stopped. Some of them wear masks, more for anonymity, but it’s not required. This remarkable state of affairs cannot hold: I am still wondering what Gov. Newsom’s endgame is.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Mockingbird
1 month ago

May be apocryphal, but have seen photos ostensibly taken inside CVS and Walgreens stores in SFO where the shelves are simply bare. They’ve simply stopped stocking the most commonly stolen items that are not under lock and key.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 month ago

Speaking of bare shelves, the paper-goods isles are once again bare. No paper towels and no TP.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Mockingbird
1 month ago

The Left has no endgame accept their emotions.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  abprosper
1 month ago

If you’re bored, Wikipedia seems to have reasonablly good summaries of “critical theory” and its demon spawn “critical race theory.” For the latter, they even offer some very wise criticism of said “theory.” Yep, the fundamental problem of the Left is valuing narrative, personal stories, over that darn science that demands proof and testability of hypothesis. Much more fun to create your own version of reality, make up shit as you go along, and blame others for your misfortunes, wouldn’t you agree? That, in a nutshell, is most civil rights movements and, for the matter, communism by accounts here…

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
1 month ago

In CA we have police departments across the state issuing official press releases that they will not be enforcing various aspects of the governors edicts.

I doubt that will last, but if it somehow did, it would be a nice white pill.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

I assume municipalities that do not enforce these edicts will be threatened to have state and federal funding withheld if they do not comply. That seems to be effective. I just read an article about Belgian police saying they will be knocking on doors over Christmas to ensure compliance Covid orders. They will not demand entry as that would violate the law. So many people are willfully complying it is pathetic.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Barnard
1 month ago

Had a MA State Trooper on security duty ask me to pull my mask up when looking my car over prior to pulling onto the ferry. Responded “Jawohl! mein Feldwebel!” He didn’t seem amused.

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tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Barnard
1 month ago

People are absolutely retarded when it comes to the cops. They make the cop’s job so easy.
The rules are stacked against you. If a cop says hello, demand a lawyer. I’m not even kidding. A cop who starts a casual conversation with a citizen can get anything they say into court.

Paul Bonneau
Paul Bonneau
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

Clark County (Washington) – which is Vancouver – had an announcement that cops would not cite or arrest people without masks, but would give them a free public health lecture. 🙂

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Paul Bonneau
1 month ago

 would not cite or arrest people without masks, but would give them a free public health lecture.

So the police we imagined we were paying to stop crime and keep order are “educators” propagating the official line.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

The diffential appears to be appointed versus elected. Sheriffs are elected.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Bilejones
1 month ago

They talk a good game, but let us see what happens when the state or feds put them under pressure. Elections don’t protect us from bad politicians. Why should elections protect us against politicians calling themselves sheriff?

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

CA is actually a hotbed of resistance, but it mostly goes unreported. I accidentally witnessed a big confrontation last Saturday, between a ton of partying Trump demonstrators, and a few hardcore Antifa/BLM types (black body armor, makeshift weapons, the whole deal). Right in a busy intersection in the middle of town. Press coverage, including local, zippo.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

before the election, i would have asked you how it turned out.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

I didn’t stick around to find out. It looked about to get very ugly. But I did see a whole line of LEO trucks barreling in that direction after I left. The Trump partyers had the Antifa guys outnumbered by about 20 to 1. I think the cops showing up probably gave the bad guys an excuse to stand down.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

I agree. There is a lot of tension brewing under the surface. Sure, there are plenty of resigned and defeated types about, but they were never going to be of much use to anything productive. The harder these mass lefties clamp down the more distillation will occur.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

Thanks for this. Our media deliberately keeps Americans isolated and ignorant of ho much is going on to enable the people who pay for ads and pull their chains in power.

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

Honest question, do you find like I do that nearly every liberal outside the major hub of the bay area (and I am assuming LA) (1) complains about the overreach of power by Newsom while (2) drawing absolutely no connection between the policies they’ve supported for ad infinitum now? Because I like so many have given up trying to have that conversation.

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Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Valley Lurker
1 month ago

Yes, I find that generally to be true. What I did not expect is that, since the election, the hard-core Libs I cross paths with have gone very quiet and subdued. I think it is because of four things. One, everyone knows the election was stolen, and they just don’t want to go there (though I’m sure they’d take the bait if I brought it up). Two, they just elected a dementia patient, and might be thinking a bit about what that means. Three, they elected a regime in bed with Antifa, and that is not a good thing at… Read more »

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

Interesting. Other than the committed useful idiots I know, that mirrors my experience as well, with the exception of refusing to acknowledge the doterring old man aspect of it.

Dicksister
Dicksister
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

All the little archipelagos of Harrisbiden in my heavily Trump area were gone immediately after the election. No joy In victory, no talk about it period. This is a rural area and they are now caught out as the ones who supported a usurper.All the Trump stuff still up.

Member
Reply to  Dicksister
1 month ago

Trump is a brand now. No matter what happens with the election I think there will be a market for MAGAwear for years to come. Trump is now a shorthand for “fuck the masks, fuck the Karens, fuck BLM, fuck Antifa, fuck the media, fuck the entire establishment up the ass with a hot fire poker.”

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
1 month ago

Same here with the local sheriff (an elected office), however, seems the government has no problem hiring agents to inspect and enforce the new ordinances. They need no “police” powers as in arrest and jail, they simply observe and cite infractions. Later on businesses are punished by removing liquor or business licenses. So far no indication of agents knocking on private residence doors for a head count, but churches have voluntarily closed for the duration—except those few smallish, Christian sects that meet in private homes. And so it goes.

spinning tigers
spinning tigers
Reply to  CompscI
1 month ago

wherever two or more of you are gathered in His name etc–

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  spinning tigers
1 month ago

Indeed. “Sects” is often used as a derisive descriptor, but of late I’ve learned respect for these “resisters”. Whether you are a believer or not, they fight the good fight in a common cause, resistance to tyrannical government.

Crispin
Crispin
Reply to  CompscI
1 month ago

Next step will be sitting side by side on a log by the beach.
Taking turns drawing a fish.
Back to the future, it seems.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  CompscI
1 month ago

“Good Christians” is going to be the individual/group term to accompany the sociological/geographical description of “good schools.”
All the Good Christians live in areas with Good Schools (or should asap!), but not everyone who lives where there are Good Schools is a Good Christian — yet.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  CompscI
1 month ago

The mainline churches have been so pozzed that we need, so to speak, separation of church and church as much as church and state 🙂
Not to be overlooked, you can honor a vow of celibacy and still have sects.

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 month ago

Your word play excellence has not gone unnoticed.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
1 month ago

A few sheriffs in NY state have declined to enforce the governor’s new edicts.

In response, the governor is labelling those sheriffs Nazis.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

My sheriff is one of those Nazis. I wish to hell he’d get to work on the rest of his alleged Nazi agenda.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  KGB
1 month ago

We might just get that. A lot of people realize that a White Right and Friends (POC who habitually vote Republican more or less ) America would be far better while not making the weak but decent people feel like racists.
80%+ White Right is damned good goal.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
1 month ago

Pretty much there in my neck of the woods

B125
B125
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
1 month ago

People are just ignoring the laws in Ontario too. We will see what happens at Christmas. During Diwali here the police had to break up several Diwali festivals, browns just ignore the lockdowns completely.

Even among whites, many are planning to just have a normal Christmas. But we’ll see if they ramp up the police state or not. There is a snitch line, but outside of the goodwhite strongholds nobody will be calling in.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  B125
1 month ago

Part of the problem is that Ontario has Diwali festivals.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

“Part” of the problem?? Go visit Niagara Falls on any given day, wall-to-wall wogs.

B125
B125
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Where were you 40 years ago lol

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  B125
1 month ago

Even the Tribe in NYC has been having its affairs and telling DiBlasio, in so many words, to go commit whoredom unto himself 🙂
https://nypost.com/2020/11/24/another-hasidic-wedding-was-held-in-ny-despite-cease-and-desist/

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
1 month ago

I’m still waiting to hear how the newly passed law that will mandate certain proportion of People Of Color on corporate boards will play out. How can this not be racial preferences?

David Wright
Member
1 month ago

The speech by Gavin Newsom resembled a evangelical preacher caught in a tryst. Then the true believers accepted his mea culpa and went right along with his rule.

Ajclement
Ajclement
1 month ago

Damn Zman what a way to start the day.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
1 month ago

A cynic is a guy who no longer reads the newspaper or watches the network news and is now thinking there’s no point in voting. That’s where I’m at now and I hate it.

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OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

I rely on sober minds here to inform me of all the news I need. Thanks to Z, I now know about BlowJo’s ‘Freedom Pass’ . I don’t know if it is a bad or a good thing to be so distrusting of the UK’s media organs that I must get important info from elsewhere. The trouble is, even just browsing to The Guardian, The Independent, The Telegraph and the like means that I will definitely see some woke garbage – can’t risk it! At the moment, I guess only The Mail on Sunday is half decent and this is… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

OF-

http://www.lockdownsceptics.org is a UK-based clearinghouse for sober info on the new regime over there.

http://www.off-guardian.org is good as well.

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usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

I’ve sworn off the national news for months, just taking in the local. But I can barely stand that now as the first ten or fifteen minutes is spent blathering about covid. It’s coming from every angle and apt to drive a body nuts.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  usNthem
1 month ago

The one thing that is guaranteed to keep me hunkered down on my own acreage is the mask mandate. That is the most egregious breach of rights of association and personal freedom that I have seen in many decades. I remember the rage I felt when forced integration was slammed into us. This has the same feeling. But the worst part is watching your friends acquiesce.

Sam
Sam
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 month ago

I’m glad to hear I’m not the only one. People complain but them wear them. I havent yet. There is no beating this. It seems like the American public has been waiting for this for decades. Its like an iPhone. You didn’t even know it was what was missing from your life: masks.

I had a job interview where the guy interviewing me wore a mask the whole time!

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 month ago

People naturally fear the unknown and fear disease. Plus with all the gaslighting, its no surprise.
I’ve seen people I know are sound minded on our side come unglued over this.

Roberto
Roberto
Reply to  usNthem
1 month ago

Just yesterday on the local radio news channel, after spending 5 minutes talking about how full the hospitals are, the anchor said “,but they’re always this full at this time of year.” I almost drove off the road!

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  OrangeFrog
1 month ago

Freedom pass—if they actually use the term—is a good descriptor. But really folks, it’s been in *use* here in the USA for at least 15 years or so, only by another name. How quickly we forget. Remember the airlines and their no-fly list and intrusive TSA check/pat down process? A few years later you could go to any certified vendor and get a TSA “Precheck” certificate/card. You merely had to fill out a form, give personal info, submit finger prints, and pay $50. Presto, you now had an internal passport—just like in mother Russia during the commie era. BTW, this… Read more »

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Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  CompscI
1 month ago

Yes, and no taking off your shoes or belt and digging electronics out of your bag. No microwave scans. It’s easy to be seduced by the privileges of party membership.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Vizzini
1 month ago

Yes, it left a bad taste in my mouth. You really have to grow up in such an environment to accept such privilege as “normal” or even proper.

Looking backward (what else to do at my age) I hope I have not screwed up the kids—I had a distinct advantage growing up in a blue collar household, we worked for, or did without—they have never wanted for anything.

Wife and I both have second thoughts on the whole thing. Funny how values change as you age.

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Au Jus
Au Jus
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

That’s me as well…I stopped watching the TV or network news a few years ago and haven’t suffered for lack of it. Last time I will vote as well.

Now if I even hear a second of the chattering cyclops I get pissed.

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

Combat soldiers coped with the threat of death in the meat grinder by accepting that they were already dead. Accepting that the USA is as dead as a bag of hammers makes it much easier to cope with what is coming.

dr_mantis_toboggan_md
Member
Reply to  Carl B.
1 month ago

From Star Trek DS9. Very fitting.

First: “I am [Rank] [Name], and I am dead. As of this moment, we are all dead. We go into battle to reclaim our lives. This, we do gladly, for we are JemHadar.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  dr_mantis_toboggan_md
1 month ago

Mediate on your own death and how much peace it will bring you every day in the matte of the stoics. It will make your life better.
The only ones who won’t benefit are those with minor children or other helpless people they must care for.

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

Don’t hate seeing the light. The word “cynic” has negative connotations, most of which Z-man just decimated. Most heroic lives are rooted in the cynicism of prevailing, false orthodoxies.
Now take another look at the sheep around you – they’re not living, they’re existing. Poor bastards, like hamsters on a wheel. But now you know where to invest your talents & energy, and that will make all the difference.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  CAPT S
1 month ago

more like cows on a feed lot…

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

What I hate is that the charade makes me hate people that I don’t even know. Its easy to hate some faceless bureaucracy or the pudgy, greasy face of my gaypedo governor, but now I find myself with a level of disgust and disdain for many of my fellow citizens that I have never had before. And I lived in Caifornia. Many people deserve to be hated these days, but the problem is many is rapidly approaching most. That’s a big part of the evil in the commie “system”: it is inherently dehumanizing. The infinite rules and their arbitrary nature… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

“It is a terrible thing to have to order the world into those you hate, those you trust and those you cannot be sure if they can be trusted.”

True, but I’m finding great reduction in uncertainty since the election and before that, the scamdemic. Folks are dropping all pretense and by doing so remove all doubt. It’s a shrinking world, I admit.

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IforgotMyPen
IforgotMyPen
Reply to  CompscI
1 month ago

2016 was also a great time of clarity in sorting those you should completely discard. Fox was showing it’s true colors even then

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  CompscI
1 month ago

I like clarity. It cleanses the conscience.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

seems like that’s a healthy reaction, all things considered.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  thezman
1 month ago

The hate you feel now is nothing compared to the hate you’ll feel in four years….

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  Screwtape
1 month ago

I cannot tell you how much I hate myself for having been turned into a cynical curmudgeon first slowly in 2009 and then rapidly since 2016, but as Zman said pessimism is not the opposite of optimism and only cynicism is left in me. Oh, how I hate this.

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Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  tonaludatus
1 month ago

Don’t hate it, own it. Stay out front of what is going on (you cannot be too cynical…), and you will see the world, and other people, with the eyes that most others don’t have. It is as if you are the adult living in a world of children, or you are the human at the zoo. Sad, but empowering. Operate and make decisions subtly, but in plain sight, and most won’t even know what you are up to.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

“And in your cage at the human zoo, they all stop to look at you
Next year, what will you do when you have been forgotten?”
— Styx, “Miss America”
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/styx/missamerica.html

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  tonaludatus
1 month ago

you need a zen attitude. become the wind 🙂

manc
Reply to  Screwtape
1 month ago

You can have a lot of fun by openly laughing at the narrative. Many of our fellow “citizens” literally can’t process anything that is approved. The reactions can be hilarious.

manc
Reply to  manc
1 month ago

oops “isn’t approved”

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  manc
1 month ago

yes manc, humor is a great tool. I use it often. The cynic must have some levity. There is joy in life even if it is not plain to see. We can create it from the madness. On that note, I officially now know more people (by association) who have waited several hours in line at the new In and Out burger that just opened here than have died of the wuhan. We go into threat level magenta on friday. Luckily for in and out takeout feed is essential. Lols.

IforgotMyPen
IforgotMyPen
Reply to  Screwtape
1 month ago

CO? I heard the wait was upwards of 10 hours. How very sad.

el-porko
el-porko
Reply to  manc
1 month ago

Like was discussed a few days ago on one of Z’s posts. Humor and mockery is a great weapon against the insanity and silly posturing of our rulers and their petty followers.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Screwtape
1 month ago

Turn your anger and frustration into problem solving fervor. First, focus on the problem. Within your sphere of the world, which targets of opportunity are feasible? How might you solve the problem? Think outside the box. And every thought shall reside solely within the confines of your cranium. Get fit, get ready, and up your situational awareness. One day, someone will get up to dance and he/she will be the wacky outlier. But then another, and another, and soon a stampede. Do not despair. Take heart, and become a serious person.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

Thanks Tom, I am working on all of the above. Since being liberated from most of my income, I have taken up with other tasks to prepare best I can for the unknowns. I am grateful that my mind remains free – unlike many I know, and that I have struck a handful of new friendships while rucking thru this muck.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

nah, that’s burn out and crash advice. this isn’t a race.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

If exercising your brain causes you to burn out and crash, you lost the race at birth. But since IQ is hereditary, you can garner solace by blaming your parents.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

IQ is not a switch—off/on. Most all of us have enough to improve if we use it. Some will take longer to learn, but we all can, if we keep at it.

This is particularly good advice as we age. Watch TV 5 hours a day, drinking beer, and eating snack food and your “perceived” limitations will become self fulfilling.

el-porko
el-porko
Reply to  Screwtape
1 month ago

This sounds terrible to say, but I am starting to look at a lot of fools around me as less than human. Up until the last few months, I could always rise above and try to look at the deluded and dangerous as merely misguided or evil opponents. I am starting to see them as a plague that must be burned out.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  el-porko
1 month ago

The good news is, they view you as exactly the same.

Said another way, the battle lines are being clearly drawn now. You are either a True Believer who loves Big Mother and the State, or you are an outsider / dissident. Fence sitters will be purged by True Believers for not being pious / woke enough so they sort of automatically shake out to one side or the other.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Apex Predator
1 month ago

I prefer an honest enemy to a fence sitter. I trust my enemy to oppose me by any means necessary and I can understand and respect that,
I can’t trust sitters at all. They might as well be an empty suit.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Screwtape
1 month ago

Hating your enemies or for the religious the Enemies of God is a good thing. Its give energy for action and creates the urge to get rid of the pain. The key is to not let it define you and to let it go when its no longer needed. A positive identity for yourself or your people can’t be tied to a negative identity of others. That last lesson is why White Nationalists are often such failures, if magic comet AH14W got rid of all the POC they’s be without purpose. Not letting go is also how you go full… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

I have a visceral reaction when exposed to State media at this point. I simply have to leave the room.

Randian Supremacist
Randian Supremacist
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

Same here. I don’t wanna be a cynic, but right now that’s the only point of view that seems to correspond to reality.

Only question is, will it play out as has been played out before, or will being the most heavily armed people on earth count for something?

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

Wolf,

Don’t hate it. Embrace. Just hate.

WCiv...---...
WCiv...---...
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 month ago

Resignation. Surrender. Fatalism. Disillusionment. Quietude. Contemplation. Reassessment. Cleansing. Renewal. The lull before the storm. Big storm coming.

Severian
1 month ago

In a sick way, I’m kinda looking forward to the Bidenreich’s mandate that we all sign up for Twitter and Facebook and log into our four hours of mandatory TV viewing per night. Just seeing what you guys come up with in order to sound pious but mock the Powers That Be is going to be hilarious. E.g. that “penultimate thing that went through Trotsky’s head” line. Classic.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Severian
1 month ago

In Soviet Russia you could get sent to the gulag for 10 years if you were caught shutting off your radio when the broadcaster was reading “Letters to Lenin/Stalin”…which were all the same and went on for hours.

CAPT S
CAPT S
1 month ago

“In other words, the joke was always on the fool who was not cynical enough to anticipate the lie.”

Finally I have a retort for those who say I’m too cynical.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  CAPT S
1 month ago

I still get kind of short with those who go, really?, when the latest crazy rule is issued. They still think it is going to stop and return to normal.

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  David Wright
1 month ago

Exactly. Amazing to me how many Trumpsters are manic about vote fraud (and rightly so), but then put on their mask to walk down the sidewalk.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  CAPT S
1 month ago

how do you know mask wearing people outside are Trump supporters?

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  CAPT S
1 month ago

I have been doing my own work on the voting databases, to try to confirm who, or if everyone, is blowing smoke. It’s a good personal reality check. I don’t really trust anyone on any of this. So far, the evidence looks really damning. Don’t know if Sidney Powell can make a case out of it, though.

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  Dutch
1 month ago

@Dutch – The guys I trust the most in this election debacle are the professional financial auditors and fraud investigators. They’re pros who know how to look for red flags and discern involuntary carelessness vs premeditated swindle. You’re right – the evidence is damning … unfortunately, though, we’re looking for justice in a system rigged against it. I’m guessing Sidney Powell has an airtight case that would pass the “reasonable man” test; it just doesn’t pass muster with the elite.

King Tut
King Tut
1 month ago

Great article, zman. Loved this. Yes, I agree that the revolution has already happened and that we are now moving into the next phase. But was it really a “socialist” revolution? Is egalitarianism really their goal? It strikes me that where were are now, and going forward, looks a lot more like feudalism, only instead of a landed aristocracy, we are ruled over by a technocratic elite who own everything, run everything and decide everything. “Wokeness” is just the moral and spiritual cement that binds them together – a new “Christianity”. For those of us not fortunate enough to belong… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  King Tut
1 month ago

Maybe it will take a “Black Death” to finally rid us of them?

There is a lot of evidence that the Black Death created a labor scarcity situation that was excellent for the lower and middle classes.

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

Indeed. Once the Black Death subsided, even lowly peasants were in high demand due the shortage of labour. Consequently, they could charge more and demand more advantageous terms.

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  King Tut
1 month ago

but back then the ruling class could not import the European equivalent of a few million Central American peasants to keep their lawn mowed.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

it also reduced food and lodging prices…

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

Bill Burr (comedian) had a good riff about how he didn’t trust the rich/elites; felt like they’d kill off the “surplus” population if they thought they could get away with it.

If AI happens, and the robots can build all the things, don’t think for a second the elites wouldn’t kill most of the poor/middle class off in a heartbeat. To save mother earth, or something.

B125
B125
Reply to  King Tut
1 month ago

It seems to be uncharted territory. The socialism debate is used to keep the moron normiecons and moron left busy arguing. Idk what the plan is – but the globalist elites have suddenly cracked down on all religion. Before just Christians were the target of hatred, but since COVID started, Muslims, Jews, and Hindus are getting the shaft too. Macron is not backing down either. I think the white, Christian working and middle class was the only group they were afraid of, islam and blacks were tools to destroy it, and now that it’s been dismantled they are going to… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  B125
1 month ago

Under communism the State is the only God.

B125
B125
Reply to  King Tut
1 month ago

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Barn Jollycorn
Barn Jollycorn
1 month ago

 “This realization was probably penultimate thing that went through Trotsky’s head.”

“Penultimate.” You made me laugh on an otherwise bleak day.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Barn Jollycorn
1 month ago

I wonder what the penultimate thing that came out of his mouth was? Probably the same thing that was put in

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  Lanky
1 month ago

I doubt it. Nobody could outtalk Trotsky, not even Lenin.

Hun
Hun
1 month ago

There will be some value in the news eventually if you learn to read between the lines, just like people in communist countries did.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

It’s worse. We don’t have any journalists smart enough to write between the lines, and there are no cynical infiltrators from our side. We only get truth when they get emotional and blurt it out, and it’s only emotional truth. There’s no news behind the news, no real events that give anything away, no secret that if only we knew, no consumer attitude that can help us navigate the system from out here. The class of people who make and “make” the news just viscerally desire our destruction, all in the same way, all in the same words, with the… Read more »

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  Hemid
1 month ago

Our present day equivalent to “reading between the lines” is doing one’s own content search without Google and some such on the web by moving from one site linked to another and trying to make sense by mentally filtering the gibberish out as fast as possible.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  tonaludatus
1 month ago

One page of PEOPLE magazine per coke rail.

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Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Hemid
1 month ago

The broadcast “news” is simply the means by which one can monitor the current narrative stream. It is the way that they tell us what we should believe and think. Take it from there, for your own reasons, and for your own uses. They are actually doing us a favor by communicating all of this to us, so we know what is going on at their end, for our own situational awareness and such. But don’t let them know what is going on at our end…

Sandmich
Reply to  Hemid
1 month ago

This circles back to the “stupid” factor for me. How many times I catch some news story and think “this isn’t even very good as propaganda: they don’t even know how to lie properly”. The one I’ve been turning over in my head lately is Joanne Jacobs who is a real respected “conservative” education blogger, and all-around normie idiot. Just the other day I saw that she had posted up that study that Z had mentioned in regards to the shutdown schools shortening lifespans. Even at my sleepiest, most trusting state that “study” doesn’t pass the smell test, but here… Read more »

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

It’s going to be epic with Sleepy Joe at the helm. Much truth will unguardedly emerge from his mouth, like when he said his campaign had the finest voter fraud organization ever. It will be a new golden age of “journalism”, with whole brigades of new hires from Columbia and Barnard spinning his pronouncements.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Hun
1 month ago

Whatever story they are avoiding at all costs is true.
What they accuse their enemies of doing is exactly what they are doing.

Tyche
Tyche
1 month ago

It’s easy to maintain contradictions in a world of hyper-specialization and compartmentalization. Very few intellectuals these days range over the whole of some particular field, much less every field. The result is the loss of the ability to see things in their most general character. Turns out, when you break things down into their atomic bits and assign different people to exclusively study their little nook of the universe, you lose the ability to make sound generalizations regarding the whole. The trick used by the ruling class is to capitalize on these divisions by convincing each person that what he… Read more »

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Peabody
Peabody
1 month ago

At least once a week I get an email from some local independent restaurant that’s part of a group formed to essentially beg congress for relief money. After 8 fruitless months of pleading and half the restaurants already gone they still haven’t figured out there will be no money. Instead of organizing to say ‘FU this is BS and we aren’t letting you kill our businesses over lies’ they write open letters to our lunatic governor attempting to appeal to her non-existent sense of compassion. I’d say most people are nowhere near the cynical enough stage.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Peabody
1 month ago

Yeah, normies haven’t realized letter writing and phone calls won’t achieve much of anything.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

Or voting.

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  Peabody
1 month ago

A plurality of normies still believe that you can stop the despotism by appealing to the decency of our rulers, not realising that they do not possess so much as a shred of decency.

Another futile response is marches and street theatre. That is exactly the response our rulers expect and want.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  King Tut
1 month ago

All true. Cold indifference, and cynicism is a species, is the best approach to contemporary society. Obviously imminent violence cannot be ignored, but that’s not the norm.

The Post is running stories about how grand D.C. will be again. It is unintentionally hilarious.

Sandmich
Reply to  Peabody
1 month ago

I’ve seen that too, quite discouraging. I would have hoped that the people with the most to lose would generate some leadership in this fight, but my impression has been that a goodly number of them watch too much cable news and believe all the hysteria themselves. It reminds me of Winston’s neighbor in 1984 being grateful that his kids called the secret police on him after hearing him rant about something in his sleep.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
1 month ago

OT: Zman, if you want to do a movie review that shows how far we have fallen as a society, do “Best Years of Our Lives”: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036868/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3

Sandmich
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

I’ve not seen it, but the movie gets noted on occasion as it’s the film that won the best picture Oscar the year that It’s a Wonderful Life was released.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
1 month ago

All true. And like the USSR the system has to eventually die a natural death, a process far beyond the control of any group of people, even inside the system. Few people contemplate that we’ve been a socialist country since 1933, a project that was well underway even in the progressive era. When the Supreme Court defined “commerce” as anyone doing anything at any time, it was all over. We wouldn’t know freedom if it bit us in the ass and we now think it’s a TSA known traveler number.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 month ago

1865, not 1933.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  BadThinker
1 month ago

that wasn’t exactly a fight over socialism 🙂 although there is a decent argument to be made that socialism is just disguised slavery…

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  BadThinker
1 month ago

Exactly. Thank you.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 month ago

Yep, SCOTUS and the “Commerce Clause”. Never could understand how they could get the interpretation so wrong and for so long. Then it finally dawned on me. It was deliberate. The Court has always been looking for the magic trump card to do away with having to find some pesky loophole to the Constitution to rule upon. Then they found a skeleton key, the Commerce Clause. Viola, rule by a committee of 9.

Is that cynical enough for the group? 😉

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 month ago

Yes I vaguely remember from a history class or article about the Fed’s jurisdiction to regulate, I think Milk. Even though the milk wasn’t crossing State lines, the court ruled it could have been so sold, so the government was justified in regulating it! Such ancient decisions make it a bit easier to accept the more recent ones, like that a person is any sex they want to be, and we must respect their choice.

Stranger in a strange land
1 month ago

.”..This realization was probably penultimate thing that went through Trotsky’s head….”
Very clever.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
1 month ago

“This realization was probably penultimate thing that went through Trotsky’s head” haha too effin funny! to those who don’t get the joke, look up the means of Trotsky’s death…

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
1 month ago

have been reading about Epicureans vs Stoics, and am currently leaning towards the former. Am open to reasoned persuasion to switch…

Kentucky Headhunter
Kentucky Headhunter
1 month ago

The cynic, in the context of an authoritarian society, accepts that there is no inherent logic in the system, other than to insulate those who prosper from their position. The cynic accepts that there is no truth in the system and the outcomes are random, based on the changing desires of the people you interact with in the system. The cynic knows there is no truth in a world of lies, other than his own acceptance of it. It is in this phase we are in now where we learn that you can never be cynical enough. So I have… Read more »

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
1 month ago

i would think it would be a huge relief. although no one likes being conned.

whitney
Member
1 month ago

A relative of mine borrowed something from me last week. They returned it yesterday. It was broken. They didn’t mention it to me I just discovered it when I tried to use it. When I said something they said oh sorry I figured you could fix it. far-left obviously. These are comically terrible people that are ruling over us right now.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  whitney
1 month ago

My brother in law was like that

Only the old fashioned solution worked. I knocked him on his rear never to be bothered again except when I had to throw 2×4 at him as he ran away after taking a cheap verbal shot

But now we’re best friends. Ahhhh. We all love happy endings 🙂

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  whitney
1 month ago

Yup! In other words, “Let’s see if I can get away with this…”
Now blow that up times a million and you have their political angle.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  whitney
1 month ago

did you ask them to replace it, or pay for it?

whitney
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

I fixed it

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  whitney
1 month ago

now fix your relative! 😛

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Karl McHungus
1 month ago

Or at the very least borrow them and return them broken to their significant other.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  whitney
1 month ago

No one can take advantage of you without your permission. You need to withdraw that permission or accept your victimization.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  whitney
1 month ago

I live in a conservative neighborhood, that had quite a few Trump signs. Only one house had a Biden sign, and they are the only neighbors who don’t rake their leaves. So a two inch thick carpet of leaves on their lawn keeps blowing over to the lawns that are kept up.

TomA
TomA
1 month ago

There is one key difference between the socialist model that arose in the Soviet Union and here in the US. And that is that there are over 300 million firearms in the possess of the masses. The Soviets only needed a relatively small Jackboot Corp to subdue it’s people via extreme ruthlessness and genocide. That’s going to be difficult to duplicate here outside of urban areas. But more to your point, play the role of the passive dolt and become invisible and ignored. And then opportunistic and spontaneous.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  TomA
1 month ago

They can’t even control black people and they think they are going to control tens of millions of armed white people

Let me know how that goes

B125
B125
Reply to  Falcone
1 month ago

Yeah, Russians are different. They’ve always had the “peasant” mentality, and been ruled by authoritarians. They’re also relatively high IQ.

White Americans are heavily armed, blacks are also heavily armed and dysfunctional, Mexicans ignore every rule and do what they want.

Idk what the elites’ plan is, either they have some kind of hbd plan in place, or the USA is going to be a dysfunctional hellhole, there is only so much white boomer wealth to loot.

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  Falcone
1 month ago

“They” do not want to control “them”, “they” want to control “you”; I do not wish to see how that goes.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  tonaludatus
1 month ago

At some point you and I become them

not seen as individuals in the minds of our tormentors but a big pink blob of bad whites, a big stack of ham with guns

I hope the thoughts of that haunt them forever

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Falcone
1 month ago

I forget the site, but someone pointed out the Finnish-Russian Winter War as being highly instructive, particularly for those of us in northern climes.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
1 month ago

Maybe, but the Fins fought a nasty civil war pre Soviet invasion to eradicate internal communist. Excellent trading for WWII.

Hard times make hard men and all that. American men have never been softer, and they know it. The movie Fight Club resonated for a reason.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Falcone
1 month ago

they think they are going to control tens of millions of armed white people

Let me know how that goes

It’s going just fine.
Thanks for asking.