The New Corporatism

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In the industrial age, the power centers in Western societies were capital, the government and the workers in that order. Because money is power, the capitalists could exert influence over governments, so they were at the top of the power structure, but that had its limits. Government has the monopoly of force and must be responsive to the people, even in private government. Labor, of course, had numbers and even in the most repressive regimes, numbers count for a lot.

Of course, there was natural conflict between labor and capital. Then as now, capitalists wanted to exploit their workers as much as possible. One solution to this was tripartism, which is economic corporatism. Labor, government and employers work together to form economic policy. Labor would be organized into unions, whose leaders would sit at the table with representatives from the state and industry to fashion polices that maintained social stability and economic prosperity.

For most of Europe, this has been the explicit arrangement. In Scandinavia, what is often called socialism is actually corporatism. Workers get generous benefits, but the state protects business from competition. In other parts of Europe it is not as explicit, but the social contract is based on the cooperation of the government, business and labor unions. The irony is that this was the approach favored by fascist movements, but no one dares mention that bit of history.

In America, this arrangement was never formalized. Industrial unions flourished in the north, but never got traction in the rest of the country. Into the 20th century, the central government was too weak to bring labor and capital to the table. Instead we got an informal version of tripartism, with activist groups inside the political system negotiating on behalf of labor. The political class used regulation, rather than force, to bring business owners to the table.

For the most part, this system worked well enough through the 20th century. It was not perfect, nothing is, but all the measures of society improved. Even as the West moved into post-industrial economies, the system held up. That’s increasingly not the case, especially in America, as we move fully into the technological age. That old informal arrangement is falling apart and being replaced with a bipolar social order, centered on money and information.

You see this with the Democratic Party. A generation ago, Democratic politicians would court industrial labor unions and salt their platforms with promises to the middle and working class. They were the party of labor. Today, Democrat politicians would not be caught dead with a union boss. Instead they hang out at Davos with bankers and global titans of the information age. They salt their platforms with weird aspirational messages that resonate with bourgeoise bohemians.

The new system is an informal arrangement between Silicon Valley, Wall Street and the political class in Washington. Left out of this is not only labor, but the bulk of business, which does not operate globally. You see this with Covid. Exceptions were made for the giant corporations, but not the small and midsized business forced to knuckle under to draconian measures. A great transfer of power and money is underway from the middle-class to the elites.

Just as capital was able to exert influence over the state in the old industrial tripartite system, money and information is now able to push around the political class. You see this with the tech monopolies. Many in Washington know this is a serious problem, but they are powerless to stop it. Not only can the tech giants buy the votes they need, they get to read everyone’s e-mail and text messages. In the information age, control of information is as important as controlling the money.

What America is racing into is bipartism, an informal alliance between Silicon Valley and Wall Street, with Washington as junior partner. Silicon Valley controls the flow of information, while Wall Street controls the flow of money. When necessary, Washington supplies the force. There is no role for labor or even for the public at-large. In a world where elections are ceremonial, there is no need for Washington to appeal to the voters or even pretend to do so.

The problem with this emerging social arrangement is that it is not rooted in anything other than short-term greed. Corporatism of the industrial age was rooted in Catholic social teaching, where the parties had reciprocal duties. Human dignity and the common good were overriding concerns. The three parts of the system were bound by reciprocal duties to the other, but also bound by a duty to society. There was a clear moral component, rooted in 2000 years of history.

The system that is emerging is explicitly free of any moral duty to society, as it rejects the very notion of society. After all, society is about boundaries and the open society is about no boundaries, which is a contradiction in terms. The rhetoric is to disguise the fact that the whole point of this new order is to consume social capital, converting it into money and power for the two stake holders. Human dignity and the common good have been monetized to benefit the new ruling order.

The main flaw in this is that a world without social capital is a world without trust. This is why personal liberty is quickly shrinking. Prisons are low trust societies and they are controlled by limiting the choices available to inmates. The emerging social credit system and “freedom passes” are what the new ruling class thinks will replace the social capital they have devoured. Instead of a sense of community and an obligation to society, people will be motivated by their smartphone.

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Severian
3 years ago

What’s beyond the black pill? I’ve come out on the other side, gone through all the Kubler-Ross, emerged with eerie Zenlike calm, because I’ve realized: people want this. For every fraudulent Biden vote, there was a real Biden vote, because universal prosperity is a blind alley of human evolution. Homo twitterus. Now I know his the Neanderthals felt.

Mark Auld
Mark Auld
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Yes professor Sev, and now we Western civ. Cro magnons might be in for the same fate.

Severian
Reply to  Mark Auld
3 years ago

One of the many reasons I retired from the professing biz was that I no longer saw the point. I loved teaching. I was one of those stereotypes who felt like it was almost a calling. If I could just reach *one* student… But one can only act like King Canute for so long. My blood pressure couldn’t take it anymore. Trust me: the 2020 graduating class *loves* Big Brother.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Teaching IS a holy profession. Unfortunately, the left has turned teaching into factory work where the end product is indoctrinated morons.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Yeah, neanderthals were driven to extinction in the first explosion out-of Africa

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Strangely enough, European descendants with Neaderthal gene markers overwhelmingly draw their Neanderthal genes from male Neanderthal/female homosapien couplings.

I guess there were a lot of fat ugly cromagnon chicks acting as baby-momma for Tay-Grok.

Sandmich
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

So they didn’t go extinct so much as they “married up”

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Sandmich
3 years ago

So they didn’t go extinct so much as they “married up”

Unlikely. She was left to fend for herself or live on charity from the rest of the homosapien tribe. You see, Tay-Grok wasn’t bout to marry and get saddled wit providing bison meat for some kid he was pretty sure actually belonged to Jamal-Narg. And unfortunately, Jamal-Narg got shanked two seasons ago while doing a stretch up in Pangaea for a home-cave invasion.

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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

It’s simple: TPTB have no ability to run the show. They’re very good at taking advantage of an existing community’s social trust for profit, but they can’t maintain communities (except their own parasitic community). Modern technology has allowed a concentration of power not possible before. No king in the middle ages could watch everyone. No banker could control cut themselves in on every deal. Society was just too diffuse. But computers, television, the internet, etc., allow a very small number of people to control society. The problem is that this small group has no ability nor desire to maintain or,… Read more »

Sandmich
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Their calls of “it’s different this time” (a play of “real Communism has never been tried”) assures me that it is exactly the same this time.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Sandmich
3 years ago

This will be even faster. Think Rhodesia, not Russia. TPTB would like to stop Rhodesia from becoming Zimbabwe because, well, Rhodesia was a lot nicer and richer. Unfortunately, the mercenaries that they brought in to defeat us have other ideas.

B125
B125
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Goodwhites belief is like this:

The entire world of people is interchangeable, except with better cuisine. EXCEPT for European- descended whites, especially Christians, who are not Goodwhites. These people are evil and irredeemable. And they eat bland food.

It’s nonsensical. And that’s why their society will fail, because people are not interchangeable. Unfortunately everything nice will be destroyed in the process, and we might even be destroyed with them.

Last edited 3 years ago by B125
skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

I call that the “LEGO brick theory”. That people, regardless of race, religion etc. can be snapped together like a LEGO brick to build any society desired.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Which is why we need to be separating from them so they don’t take us down with them…

B125
B125
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Yeah, I was just thinking the other day how goodwhite behaviors are only possible in a society maintained by badwhites. A strong wammin on the carousel in a big city… well it’s only possible when other hard working white men are holding society up. There are not many power women in Detroit, for instance. The whites at work break their back to keep things running… the non whites just shrug and pass whatever’s not done at the end of the day onto the white people. White people are suckers. But yeah, society is going to collapse because a) some white… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Yep, the speed and manner that this society fails is unknowable. Could take decades or longer. Is our future Mexico, Brazil, South Africa, Rhodesia or something else? Who knows. But the direction is assured so long as Whites keep falling as a percent of the population. Third world immigration and birthrates will cement the decline for the society as a whole, though your situation could be very different from the general fall. I think that Z is right. We’re probably looking at something like Spain at the end of the Roman Empire. State control will wain and individual areas will… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Those areas could be very different from one another.
Oh they will definitely be different from one another so better be in one that is full of people like us and not of people like them…

Locust Post
Locust Post
3 years ago

I’ve resolved myself to being a slave; but I also think of myself as a wily peasant. This state of mind takes one away from any thought of being on top—or being frustrated when you figure out your effort within the system doesn’t get you to the brass ring. Let someone else chase credentials. Many of us white guys are smarter than average and perfectly capable to do just fine. You just need to quit negotiating with a rigged system and use your brain given the nasty circumstances. In my opinion this starts with doing the math of putting your labor through the W-2… Read more »

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Locust Post
3 years ago

i would advise young people to stay out of college (at least the four year kind) and go into one of the trades. make more money, and more opportunities for off the books graft. also, that kind of work can’t be sent overseas…

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

But even around here those guys get undercut by by cheap, unlicensed imported labor. Though on the positive side, a friend that owns a plumbing firm, does a good (and increasing) portion of his business cleaning up after the work of unlicensed, illegal contractors hired on the cheap. Often when the house is going to be sold and the home inspector hired by the buyer finds all sorts of non-code compliant hack work that he won’t pass.

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

And the trades are now being undercut by the Empire of COVID.
I have a relative who thought he was taking care of his future by going to welding school. But he has been furloughed because there is no demand for the school buses he works on. Just when young men are catching on to the benefit of trade school over a college degree, China and our Ruling Class have found a way to come after them, too.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
3 years ago

Bright side. Looks like we will need guys like him to up armor vehicles and young machinists for sten production. I jest….

Last edited 3 years ago by Penitent Man
abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Its not really a joke. This may be your reality in a few months.
You also might get your chemist friends to help you figure out a way around the ammo shortage too. Do it the legal way for now but once things go hot, laws are meaningless.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  abprosper
3 years ago

ab,

Read “I jest” as “plausible deniability”

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
3 years ago

have him study somalian “technicals”

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

Would Buy

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

The Killdozer.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

hehe too funny

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

Back in the Gulf War this was called Hillbilly Armor and was used on US think skinned vehicles too. It might not be of much help though. The weapon of choice right now is the bomb drone, half a kilo of explosives on a drone makes mince meat out of most vehicles including armored cars which have thin tops. The Armenians learned this last month when the Azerbaijanis deployed these things an inflicted in a couple of months more casualties than the entire USSR took in a decade of Afghan war. Drones aren’t super hard to make though so your… Read more »

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
3 years ago

Just had an electrical job done, spoke with the master-e at inspection; they are doing just fine, if # of jobs is an indication. Tell your relative to look at moving to the oilfields, a blie collar man with skills can bring in 6 figures up there, last I heard.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

barbers were making $150k+ out there, when the fracking boom was in full swing.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

That’s another eternal problem Zman didn’t really address – it’s not merely the global capitalists who want cheaper labor, it’s western Whites in general. That’s why capable White tradesmen are so few and so dear, and why Pablo not only cuts the grass but ‘repairs’ the cars and ‘builds’ the houses, which are designed and made to decay with 5-10 years. We need to learn to provide value for quality White service and think communally, not just of our own wallet.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

Seeing a bit of the underbelly, capable white tradesmen tend to get snapped up by higher paying salaried jobs for developers and huge construction firms rather than stay on the line. Why fight tooth and nail in the cold and wind for 100-300k a year, when you can sit at a desk for $125k salary with benes for GloboDevCo?

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

Cheap labor has been a national obsession since the founding fathers day. Hell we had the military bombing people back in 1909 because they struck wanting better pay and benefits. If you are hoping for a small state, if you win forget it. Its going to require a lot of work and a large state to break people of that habit and even with that, a lot of hard labor sentences and firing squads along with a hermetically sealed border till the message is clear. Our Social Conservatives got gulled into thinking that economics and morality weren’t related. They really… Read more »

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

well, if you aren’t going to declare the earnings, like illegals, then you can still get work and lower your rates.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

Ah, the proverbial n****** or perhaps beaner rigged…

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

Our side ought to consider holding people who hired illegals over citizens or encourage mass migration of cheap labor as enemies of the new State. I leave solutions to your imagination
And I do mean that past tense, its not like the other guys wouldn’t screw Ex Post Facto, we should too if only because such people will never be good citizens and will always be ready to sell out neighbors for a pittance.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Locust Post
3 years ago

Homesteading on a property with a functional oil & gas well is looking real good these days.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Good luck finding a property that didnt sell all mineral rights 100 years ago.

Roberto
Roberto
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

Is natural gas a “mineral” ? Serious question

awildgoose
awildgoose
Reply to  Roberto
3 years ago

For the purposes of what lies under your land, the rights to the natural gas are lumped in with the, “mineral rights, ” in most US jurisdictions.

Mineral Rights | Oil & Gas Lease and Royalty Information (geology.com)

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Did you get my email on that other post otherwise contact me on Gab my handle is Lineman1776…

awildgoose
awildgoose
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

I did.

I’m on Gab, I will touch base with you there.

Quentin Vantassle
Quentin Vantassle
Reply to  Locust Post
3 years ago

Yes. You have just described how to build and enjoy social capital.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
3 years ago

The system that is emerging is explicitly free of any moral duty to society, as it rejects the very notion of society. Yes, a strange one this. No moral duty to society as measured by actions, say: building houses for workers, encouraging family development etc. But the proponents of the system are indeed moral people – they signal their moral virtue in every dimension possible. Like everything in our modern age, style over substance has reached – and I think will continue to reach – ever greater heights. Put simply, we now have population that loves to invite government into… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

I dunno Orange Frog. Global Corp Inc. buys your politicians. Said politicians then extract your output and redirect it to housing, EBT, employment set asides and preferred access to academia for Shenequa and Guadalupe’s offspring. Then Mega-Corp and Media-Corp force feed you diversity ads and programming like you are a goose being prepared for foie gras.

They have their moral obligations… they just dont involve you or your family at all.

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
3 years ago

In a society where we’re a plurality among minorities (probably headed toward minority status too, and faster than any official calculations estimate), any power we’ll have will basically be like that of Chechen clans or Afghani warlords, which is to say we can be a thorn in the side of our rulers to the point where they’re forced to withdraw, go around us, or make concessions to go through our territories. We’ll have a much harder row to hoe than some goatherds, though, as most of us lack basic skills (the worship of college here in the Anglosphere really hobbled… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

I can live with that, go around us and leave us alone

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

You will be made to care.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

We’ll have a much harder row to hoe than some goatherds, though, as most of us lack basic skills (the worship of college here in the Anglosphere really hobbled us), Still. If it spares me from diversity and it’s hateful, slothful, vengeful commissars, I wouldn’t mind. Each day brings a new realization of the daftness of unrestrained modernity. I think I’d happily give up a lot of these ‘benefits’ that make me far more reliant on a centralized system in order for a break away from diversi-tyrants. Don’t mind being governed by a warlord (within reason), as long as he’s… Read more »

JustaProle
JustaProle
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Not to shill for anyone, but you may be interested in John Mosby of Mountain Guerilla. He discusses beating the rush and collapsing now, as well as the importance of building our tribes of choice. He is behind patreon now, but his old blog is still up and a wealth of free info. Worth reading as it relates to our likely future.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

There are solutions to the government’s resettlement policies, it’s just that those solutions remind people of a class of people they don’t like. But it is the nature of things that society is supported by unpleasant people doing unpleasant things.

B125
B125
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

It wouldn’t surprise me if we’re already minorities… well aside from the Boomers and Silents we are.

This is exacerbated by the fact that urban white liberals under 40 have basically stopped having kids. I know a Boomer lib couple with 4 kids – none of them have kids and the eldest daughter is like 36 now and not married.

Unfortunately when all of society has gone crazy there’s not much you can do individually… just have families and create networks of trusted people, and throw sand in the gears of the system in any way possible.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

he eldest daughter is like 36 now and not married.

Don’t worry, I am sure that partnership at Cohen, Goldstein & Lifshitz was worth it for her.

Indeed. Breeding more based whites is a must.

B125
B125
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Her career of making powerpoints for 60k was certainly fulfilling.

And after the wall? Lots of younger, prettier goyim for Mr. Cohen to hire.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

geez

throwing a family away for $60k

what a shame

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Lotsa proud boomer fathers left to enjoy the sunset with their grandpets. The elimination of moral duty to society at the most fundamental level was to subordinate creating more of that society to that of corporate service. Credentials over children. Building brands over building families. On the individual level, the fruit of the tree of progress promised boundless opportunities and freedom from moral duty to society; humility in favor of pride and status; self-actualization over grace. In globocorp society this means serving a husband is low status; serving a higher-ranking man in corporate office, however, is high status. Parents encouraged… Read more »

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

There’s still hope, Scewtape, even in what now seems to be an even bluer state than CA.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

She’ll still have Mr. Whiskers the cat at home as consolation.

Some Guy
Some Guy
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Yeah that’s the thing – most of these single ladies will never sniff a management job. They bounce around from entry level job to entry level job. Which makes their excuse for not having a family all the flimsier. I’m in my early 30s and yeah, it’s pretty bleak out there even if you are physically fit and earn six figures. These ladies have been taught that something better is always going to come along…until it doesn’t and it often doesn’t. A coworker’s daughter had a mental breakdown recently when she found out she couldn’t have kids. She was beautiful… Read more »

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Some Guy
3 years ago

This. Coworker from way back when had the exacy same thing, spent 10 years climbing partner track, only to find out mid-30’d she had low fertility. Smart, attractive, somewhat traditional minded but wanted to chase the boomer path and now she’s an evolutionary dead end. At least she’s married and happy with her cats…

miforest
Member
Reply to  Some Guy
3 years ago

some guy, look much younger and not college degreed . and do it NOW. you aren’t getting any younger . a religous background or openness to it is also a priority.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Working on it!

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Urban white liberals not having kids . . . That’s a good thing, if conservative young people take up the slack. Unfortunately, the Fed’s assassination of the dollar has made it difficult financially to have a large family.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
3 years ago

My son and daughter-in-law are anxious to have children. It’s going to be financially very difficult for them, and we’re going to help in any way possible. And the first way is NOT providing ‘free’ daycare so my daughter-in-law can go back to work – it will be to offer $ so SHE can stay home and be mother to her own children. A few half days a week watching the child/ren to give her some free time would be fine, but I don’t want to be mother to my grandchildren. I want to be granny.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

A poster somewhere here asked about another’s definition of social capital. You statement of intent is a great answer to it. Nowadays, even social capital within family units has eroded – it is always good to see people reviving it. Good for you and best of luck.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

Good for you. And better for your future grandchildren that she be at home with them.

acetone
acetone
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

How you help your children depends on alot of things. My advice based on recent experience: Helps when grandparents are clear about what they are willing to contribute. My sister, friends and myself have been surprised (after babies arrive) at the limits of grandparents to help after years of them asking/begging us to have kids. Feels like a bait and switch. Its hard these days, especially on the coasts, for women to entirely drop career for kids. Takes two salaries to sustain a family here. Young people need to be realistic regarding career and child rearing trade offs. Earlier they… Read more »

Mockingbird
Mockingbird
Reply to  acetone
3 years ago

My sister became an M.D. and did well financially, also had five children. How did she do it? She got married, got pregnant, didn’t get an abortion, got pregnant again, etc. In real life doctors don’t get fired for getting pregnant. Kids are a lot of work but well worth it; this is true whether or not women have professional careers.

acetone
acetone
Reply to  Mockingbird
3 years ago

My experience with MD degrees is that its a risky prospect for alot of people due to time required to get through program, uncertainty with admissions (med school, then residency) and financing of degrees. All these uncertainties combine to delay decision to have kids for most. Timeline might look like: complete undergrad (graduate at 21). Typically people do something to buff resume for a few years before med school (average entrance age 24). Then four year med school (age 28). Then 3 to 7 year residency (age 31 to 35). I know women that didn’t have serious relationships (i.e., date… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  acetone
3 years ago
  1. Move away from the coast.
  2. It is bait and switch. Limit said parents’ influence over the grandchildren they only wanted as status accessories.
  3. It is possible to turn your back on advanced degrees for family (I did) and to survive on one salary (we did) but it means no ‘ladies who lunch, no fancy vacations, and none of the newest latest gadgets – children come first.
Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  acetone
3 years ago

That’s why the trades are a great option for young men because they get paid while they are going through their training in an apprenticeship…Then when they are done they can go anywhere and be able to support a family with just their income…

acetone
acetone
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

I agree. Trades seem like a good option. I’m less experienced with jobs in this area though…

Paul
Member
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

I’m encouraging both my grandchildren (who are nearing high-school leaving age) to take up a trade.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Paul
3 years ago

If they love the outdoors, don’t mind heights, hard work, or working with electricity then they should definitely look at my trade for a career…

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

Guide her to a soft landing, start with getting her a WFH situation (easy with COVID) and then, well, nag her into quitting that; talk about the costs of still working, how stress from work makes healthy pregnancy harder, how taxes and regulations are such that it Just Makes Sense for her to stop, etc. Office minion straight to stay at home mom is a rough path.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

Oh, she’s more than ready to stay at home – it’s just a question of how much we can contribute financially and how much my son can earn. He just got a new job at significantly higher pay, so we’ll see if her ‘worrier’ personality helps them save more money than his ‘it will all work out’ spending personality.

acetone
acetone
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

@3g4me, small tips to consider. I have found child care (daycare) cost scales with rent in my city. If your son ends up grandchild in daycare, I would suggest looking for childcare in lower rent neighborhood. Can save some money that way… Also, get son to read or listen to Dave Ramsey. His approach to money management helped my wife out alot.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  acetone
3 years ago

There is no way in hell my son would put a child in daycare, particularly not in a low-rent neighborhood. Why on earth would you want the lowest-paid people watching your progeny? Our children never went to daycare (Mother’s Day Out starting at age 3, but that’s quite different) and they appreciate that their school day ended, whereas too many of their classmates, even at Christian school, had to remain for ‘after-school care’ until 6 or 7 PM. We did without plenty of things for me to stay home and our sons to grow at home in our care, not… Read more »

acetone
Member
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

If your child is in daycare in my city, the people watching them are the same regardless of the neighborhood. You just pay alot more for this service where the rent is higher. Good people can be found anywhere, but it requires interviews and close attention.

What you suggest is ideal of course. I am suggesting alternatives if solutions that fall short of the ideal are necessary.

Yak-15
Yak-15
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

I appreciate the sentiments but you are completely wrong about not helping your family.

As a new father who lives several states away from all our family’s relatives, it’s a challenge to raise kids without help. This is a big reason why urban liberals who want to have kids, rare they are, don’t have many kids – they are often transplants and daycare is pricey.

Caring for infants is a challenge and humans evolved in clans/villages where childcare was a shared responsibility. You put your family at an evolutionary disadvantage and are likely lowering the number of your progeny.

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Yak-15
3 years ago

I have no clue how you interpreted my comment to mean ‘not helping my family.’ I have cared for others’ infants since I was 12 years old, and know well how much love and care and work they require. I fully expect to assist my son and daughter-in-law, but equally expect them to be the parents and primary caregivers. I will assist when asked and however possible, with the exception of watching the children myself full-time so she can return to work – that’s where gifting them $ comes in instead.

Captain Obvious
Captain Obvious
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

…but… with the exception of…

There’s no reasoning with Passive Aggressive Personality Disorder [PAPD].

It’s like trying to talk sense into a drug addict.

A complete waste of time.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
3 years ago

Oh boy, the financial thing is just the doormat to a whole skyscraper of obsticals for UMC-YTs to have kids.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
3 years ago

Not at all wrong but in modernity its opportunity costs as much as actual costs. You can have a large family if you want one but most anything beyond the very basics is not available. Oddly enough Reason Magazine got it correct for once “maybe people don’t have many kids because they don’t want them.” If you have many kids , you had best be the type of person who wants to bust his butt for them and gets his satisfaction there since all the nice things, trips, movies (in the past) new vehicles, expensive hobbies aren’t available for you.… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
3 years ago

the poor seem tomanage it , so no excuse

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  miforest
3 years ago

The poor get a lot of assistance in the developed world and even than don’t have as high a fertility as you think. Using African American as proxy for poor the US TFR is 1.9 . Its above White and Latino but below replacement. Ultimately if you cram people into cities, you must learn to live with less babies. In order to change that you need large scale economic and social reforms and to move people into smaller homogeneous towns where they can be born, live and be buried without leaving unless they want to and society should discourage it,… Read more »

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

There are 8 boomer siblings between my husband and I. The various marriages produced 13 offspring. The offspring, save 1, are of childbearing age, with several in their 30s. There are 4 children between them (plus a trendy adoption – don’t ask). We might get 2 or 3 more out of the mix, but most of them can’t even find mates. Catastrophic.

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B125
B125
Reply to  Peabody
3 years ago

Yeah its nuts, the urban white fertility is about 0.5, as you mentioned.

When you look at general white fertility it’s about 1.6 across the USA, which means somebody is picking up the slack. Lots of white trash, Christians, and rural people must be having kids because its certainly not happening in my circles either.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Why yes, B125, you should get out of the blue city and move Out Here.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

The bulk of US White fertility is rural and observant religious folks especially Amish who double every twenty years! Its not Church Evangelicals though , they no longer have retention. Now where I live cheap California. I see a fair number of White babies but overall the TFR is low for all races. I know a some faithful LDS people who had 3 kids, oldest now 30 , youngest like 25, no grand kids A Latino lady who went from being one of three with adult age kids and not wanting any, preferring her daughter have more “Free-dumb” Now this… Read more »

Captain Obvious
Captain Obvious
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

> white trash

Jesus H Christ you people are insufferable.

Might as well prepare for your trip to meet Massah Lucifer along with all the confounded & maledicted souls of your [at that point] extinct family.

White trash.

SMDHing.

You parasites can’t burn in hell soon enough.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

I’m 53 and I’d guess that only half of my high school graduating class has kids.

Crazy, huh? !

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

I am younger than you, but NONE of the smart kids (perfect SAT/ACT) in my class had kids. Zero. Partners in law firms, the guy who developed commercially viable fracking: big flubbing brains. The next group (90% on the bell curve): two kids, max.

“Idiocracy” was a documentary.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Moe Noname
3 years ago

Dumb people aren’t really having kids in the developed world either. The only exception is the first generation of immigrants which is why Rubio et all are pushing an amnesty. They have run out of suckers to keep the system afloat and they’d rather burn in hell than raise wages. Ultimately though big brains, the 140 type and their 120+ allies are risking all our lives anyway. If its not AI, nukes, a microbe much worse than COVID, nano tech, bad vaccines or something else these assholes are endangering all of humanity and if it takes a bit of a… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  abprosper
3 years ago

I once read that Rubio’s GPA was 2.7. In Public School. In Florida. If his name were “Smith,” he wouldn’t be where he is.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

Other groups tend to vote on an ethnic basis except for White Republicans who are on the Civ Nat lithium lick.

Major Hoople
Major Hoople
Member
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

He’s not smart, but he knows how to take orders. All that required.

Captain Obvious
Captain Obvious
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

If his name were “Smith,” he wouldn’t be where he is.

That’s because “Smiths” aren’t crypto-j00z with a familial background of selling red gemstones which are almost as precious as the more famous White gemstones.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Natural for an urban society. Fertility in the US dropped every year since industrialism charting roughly as the US got more urban. The big trigger was the Great Depression where we hit modern fertility levels and didn’t get high until the economic boom of the late 40’s and 50’s This boom was the best economy the US ever had and dovetailed beautifully with the faux ruralization of the suburbs where you could spread out and have some kids. We got briefly as high as an average of four, It wasn’t sustainable, that economy was gone by 1973 and that culture… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

my kids are 20 somethings . almost none of their friends have children. The catholics in the group beion the only exception. I have one grandchild and will get a few more I hope. As many of the girls in their age group have married girls as has married males. seriously despondent over where their age group is going.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

there was another alternative available to the russians, to keep the chechens in line. it could be used here, as well.

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

there was another alternative available to the russians, to keep the chechens in line. it could be used here, as well.

In the analogy, we’re the Chechens.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Federalist
3 years ago

yah, i know.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

What’s the reference?

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago
abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

Russians are hard men with a serious legit grudge against the Chechens.
Baring robots or revolution by the time our society gets to that point, it will be well not up to the task of doing anything that serious do to it being used for virtue signalling not warfighting.
In any case the Chechen people will still win the war over time. They have double digit population growth vs Russian population shrinkage,

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Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
3 years ago

The New Yorker cover, roundly mocked by the right, is the future that the tech oligarchs want for us. A middle aged woman without children sitting next to her computer in a dilapidated small apartment, food strewn everywhere, pills next to her keyboard, wine glass in hand, pretending to be happy.

B125
B125
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Looks like the present to me.

Downtown Toronto is full of attractive young women… they all look miserable and lonely, but on the surface they’re “happy” which is the only level most people can interpret others at.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

women are NEVER happy when young

It’s a facade

If God wanted them to be happy who wouldn’t make them bleed every month in pain

Brings to mind another lie. The female “orgasm”. If women had an orgasm like a man has they’d be screwing every moment of the day. The fact they don’t says it all. Intense pleasure does not an orgasm make.

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Odd but interesting topic. My understanding female orgasm can be so intense that Le Petit Morte , the little death which is essentially transitory unconsciousness after orgasm is associated with women far more than men. As for the menses, there are birth control pills that deal with that specially and according to Web MD for most women simply using active pill during the placebo week does the same. There are some risks though. Largely in this era its the presence of vibrators than end up desensitizing women that result in weaker orgasms. It also requires a bit more skill and… Read more »

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

A middle aged woman perhaps by the name of Eleanor Rigby?

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
3 years ago

As you’ve alluded to before, these elites increasingly live in insulated bubbles. In the olden days, the evil rich factory owners, still lived in town, albeit the nice part. Now they exist in completely separate enclaves with little or no contact with objects of their transactional desires. Was going back through some old private equity data for a project–at that snapshot, 14.5k industrial companies were under PE ownership and mostly are traded back and forth between PE investors. A “fix-it” focused firm buys a company, gets it running well and profitably, flips it to a “stripper” PE fund that takes… Read more »

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

While that could be described as ‘creative’ destruction, I doubt that’s what Schumpeter had in mind when he described the phenomenon.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

He still lived in an age of “connection”. I know guys that work in all three categories. The first is pretty rare. Usually firms that specialize in a narrow industry sector and are very good at reviving stale companies. But not many of them. The middle category is the most dominant and it is pure financial engineering. But the “destruction” they engineer is not of the natural causes type, but rather intentional homicide.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

Example of intentional homicide – remember Chainsaw Al Dunlap?

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

Damn. At least the “robber barons” of the last two centuries left the country with a slew museums, art galleries and libraries.

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David Wright
Member
3 years ago

It’s not all corporatism, the Saturday after thanksgiving is small business day. Sponsored by American Express.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

   There are many platforms which encourage/require their users to spend their own social capital, ostensibly for their own benefit, but also for the benefit of the platform’s owners.    DonorsChoose is one such place; it’s a place where teachers can post projects that they want funded, which the school system won’t fund. For example, an art teacher wants to give crayons and paper to the students but it’s not in the school’s budget. The teacher doesn’t want to spend their own hard earned cash, so they go begging to the general public by posting a funding request on DonorsChoose. The website will skim 25% of whatever… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

Sounds like those cookie sales they used to have where you donate and have to buy the vendors option of cookies

Sam
Sam
Member
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

I’m not totally clear on this “social capital.” Is it the value that people give you, as you? So, someone like Scott Adams (just to use an example) is trusted by so much of society, that he has the ability to say something that people will believe, is THAT “social capital?”

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  Sam
3 years ago

It’s a lot more than just “trust”; it’s whether or not others are willing to help you out, lend you money, bail you out. Or do they blow you off because you’re not worth it to them. Did you buy at their kid’s lemonade stand?? then they’ll help push your car when you’re stuck in the snow. Donate money towards your students’ supplies? Did you spend hours listening to them bitch about their life? Quid pro Quod.

Sandmich
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

Another example is that of people cashing out their character and that of their family for Internet celebrity and maybe some cash. Everyone knows of Only Fans, but even something as minor as some woman I was watching on youtube who was supposed to be talking about chicken fencing and yet she felt driven to exploit her own kids for…I dunno, Youtube follows?

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Sam
3 years ago

One really granular example. Over the Thanksgiving holiday one my kids found a binder clip with a guys operating engineer and contractors licenses, his CCW and D/L in the house we were renting for the holiday. Turns out he was out on the island doing some work for the owners the week before. Made sure tracked him down and took the time to FedEx back to him on the mainland–since clearly he was “one of our guys”.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

Sounds like you raised your kid right, and your child and spouse raised their kid right.

JustaProle
JustaProle
Reply to  Sam
3 years ago

Social capital is the value people give you, as you, based on what you have provided to the community to date. Have you given your extra veggies from your garden to the community church pantry? Donated your experience mentoring someone? Helped out the neighbors by watching their place, changing their tire, cutting the old lady’s lawn, etc. Leveraging whatever experience and abilities you have now to assist with no current expectation of return is how to bank that social capital for when you need it.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  JustaProle
3 years ago

Exactly right which is why I stress building up your Community by doing those things you mentioned and if you live around people that it would be a waste on then move to somewhere it wouldn’t…

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JustaProle
JustaProle
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

Sorry for delayed reply Lineman. You’re absolutely correct and as an aside I always enjoy your posts.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Sam
3 years ago

We used to call in “chits” but better way is to this of it as “chips”

Call in your chips. IOW favors owed. You help Tom fix his car over the summer. He owes you now. At some point you cash in. If he balks, you then say “remember the time I helped you with your car? You owe me, don’t you think” And he agrees.

Basically, being neighborly and friends. And writ large society-wide

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Basically, being neighborly and friends. And writ large society-wide

A wokist’s worst nightmare. Why worry about neighbours and the immediate family when bigger issues need to be tackled… Go Climate Change!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

As another example of what you’re talking about, in the US after 9/11 you saw lots of “God Bless America” bumper stickers. This outraged the AWRs who responded with “God Bless All Nations” bumper stickers. The AWRs hate locally and love globally, which is moral perversion.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

That last sentence I will use and reuse.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

The hardest thing in the world is to fix yourself, It’s far easier to know how to fix the wife and siblings (If only the bastards would listen) . The further you go out, the easier it is.That’s why the most fucked up people want to fix the world.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

And why I am on a hair trigger when I encounter someone who works as a psychologist or psychiatrist. Sick f***ing puppies most, in my experience.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Sam
3 years ago

DoDo you trust your neighbors enough that you don’t lock your doors. Do you CC because the street crime is unchecked and unpredictable, such that you cant trust the cops and judges to keep order? Are you able to use that multi-billion dollar public trans system after dark? Can you give money to a local charity without thinking you are being scammed?

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

ANY project that involves public schools will never get a penny from me. All dissident rightists need to bear in mind that the public school population in the US is about 65% nonWhite, particularly elementary age children. Don’t fund your replacements! They’re not going hungry; they are grifters and idiot emotionally incontinent White women are the stooges who financially support them.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

I don’t give anything to my alma maters nor any of the big national charities such as United Way. However, I will contribute to my rural community food bank as the vast majority look like me – well not exactly – same color though.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

The Red Cross never got another drop of blood out of me after I discovered in 1996 they were paying Elizabeth Dole., wife of then Presidential candidate $500k.
Fuck them all.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

Homeschool or die.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

Or like we are trying to do start a one room schoolhouse…We homeschool until we can get it going though…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

Lineman,

Have you looked into any condemned or even movable older buildings for a school house? Also, Mrs. Penitent has some good knowledge about which homeschooling programs (essentially services individuals purchase into like a charter). Some are great, and help parents coordinate learning for groups of homeschool families and create environments and schedules so the kids from different families can get together… and some are scams.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

We have the old one room schoolhouse up the road from us it’s just trying to bring it up to standards to actually be able to hold classes there…We would also have to put a restroom in since it had an outhouse…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

Wow. Have any plumbers in your group/community? There are also composting toilets that aren’t bad.

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Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Yea we do the problem isn’t what has to be done with it it’s convincing all the people on our road since it’s a Community owned property to let us do something like that…

Kesselfieber
3 years ago

We’re truly in the Age of Quicksand. Justice has been replaced with emotional oscillation, beauty sullied by vile ugliness, harmony shattered by discord and all of it is permeated by a sense of frantic fleetingness. I’m feeling a definite animus out there that nothing is concrete anymore, everything relative & arbitrary. What was a safe bet yesterday will get you in trouble today, solutions that used to be effective are now risky, to say the least. And so…we vanish into the quicksand, sink into a quagmire of nihilism and horror. I think the order of the day is camouflage and… Read more »

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Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
Reply to  Kesselfieber
3 years ago

We’re moving from a Western moral code to an Eastern one. The only pleasures to be had in the bazaar come from haggling and getting one over on the other guy. Since this isn’t something decent people enjoy, all our joys and pleasures will have to come far away from the madding agora where all these monsters thrive.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

We’ve also been separated from any higher moral meaning. The last line of all those horrible BLM signs are ‘kindness is everything’ and a lot of people believe that but it is empty sentimentality that will not hold up under duress

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

If central authority breaks down (I mean it has, but once it becomes obvious and people realize it and start taking greater advantage of it), I’m not sure I’d want one of those signs in my yard…or even to be remembered as someone who once had one in their yard.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

I’m all for compiling a roster of addresses right now.

I don’t know if anything like this happened where you live, but I know several people who got anonymous letters in the mail this year that basically said “Thank you for having a Trump sign in your yard. We now know where the racists live.” There’s no reason a similar letter couldn’t be sent to the COEXIST crowd.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

My future dream job. Immigration officer for urban hordes trying to get away from their nightmare cityscapes. During the interview, as I question suspected woke whites trying to flee, I occasionally pinch the tech weenie assigned to me to bring up their “deleted” Facebook accounts and peruse their past posts. I can smell the nervous sweat emanating from them and hear the fearful wavering in their responses as they realize they aren’t going to make the cut. Back to Diversitopia for you my woke lad.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Penitent man, we share the same fantasy job! Seriously, I’ve constructed so many similar scenarios in my mind, being visa interviewer for the White ethnostate or potential refugee sorter for a smaller enclave. I developed a hardline reputation on the visa line in Jamaica and ended up with the applications most thoroughly coated in obeah (voodoo) powder. Didn’t help them a bit.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Aye. Back to the humanoid wood chippers. They are responsible for the mudslide; they can drown in it.

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Don’t.
There is every reason in the world NOT to send that letter to the “We Believe…” types. In anarcho tyranny world, the BLM-ANTIFA-XYZ can threaten, riot and attack all they want. You and the Kyle Rittenhouse’s of the world will be destroyed.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Moe Noname
3 years ago

I’m always open to arguments about the strategic value in attacking the other side, but this bed-wetting insistence that we forever cede the field to our enemies really needs to stop. Sooner or later we need to fight, even if it’s rear guard action.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

Makes me want to put a sign in my yard that says ‘Fuck you’

Some Guy
Some Guy
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

When they say they’re for kindness, it’s pure cynicism. It’s like saying you’re against kicking puppies. The whole goal is try to reframe their hideous ideology as just and kind.

Although “kindness” is now looked at more skeptically since Ellen DeGenerate liked using that word often and now she’s known as the total opposite. A very small silver lining is that the left has fewer tricks in their bag since a lot of their own words they like to use are tainted.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Some Guy
3 years ago

It’s like the cult of ancestor guilt. You feel Noble and pure for empty gestures of recognizing the sins of your ancestors but never do the meaningful job of looking at yourself and repenting of your own

whitney
Member
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Actually, The Cult of ancestor guilt is in itself a sin because it promotes Pride

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Some Guy
3 years ago

When a house has a sign saying “Hate has no home here,” you can be certain that hate particularly has a home there.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

“Hate has no home here,” is my least favorite empty virtue-signalling platitude.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Yeah, like those “in this house we believe” signs – good for f-ing you ken and karen…

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Hatred of evil is a Christian virtue. Hatred for the invaders is a sign of patriot pride. Hate gets a bad rap.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

I saw the worst one today in front of one of our commie run local grocery chain stores. It had BLM in big letters then underneath 2 lines:
We Are Listening
We Will Do Better
How is it possible to be this debased and craven? It gave me sign rage.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

Prescient and very well said.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

So true

It’s impossible being around them

Sam
Sam
Member
Reply to  Kesselfieber
3 years ago

Staying in the game? What do you mean? What game/

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Sam
3 years ago

Meaning don’t cross the new social lines, or politically correct dogma, publicly. Doing so can get you unpersoned, unemployed, and unemployable.

BTP
Member
3 years ago

I have been thinking that society’s borders are very important and show up everywhere in these reciprocal duties and obligations. These serve to create barriers to a dissolution, that thing which happens when everyone wants the same thing. One example is the old idea that nobles cold only marry other nobles. It’s a barrier, yes. It reduces freedom, yes. We view it as unjust. But that barrier acted to prevent the local alphas from taking the best commoner women, which absent that prohibition, they could do whenever they wanted. The prohibition acted as a restraint on the nobles, and also… Read more »

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  BTP
3 years ago

That’s an important insight, the role that class divisions have in constraining hypergamy. Haven’t heard that angle before, kudos.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
3 years ago

At the end of the day we do indeed vote for all of this. It’s actually better to elect an AOC to burn this era down (unintentionally) than Susan Collins or some decrepit Dianne Feinstein. We keep electing the same people, and not because of Dominion voting systems, but because we’re stupid. Especially with Senators. They have a six year track record of betrayal and somehow at least 50.1% of the electorate sends them back, year after year. By people with nothing. They live in squalid apartments and trailer parks. People who now watch Newsmax instead of Fox. I watched… Read more »

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Exactly why I didn’t vote for McCain or Romney for president (but rest assured I did not vote for The One). Turn that burner up to high under that pot. Still yet, it’s taken all this time for the frogs to contemplate getting serious about noticing.

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JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
3 years ago

They’ll literally be foreclosed on, worse than 2009, with 401Ks vaporized, roaming the countryside and still be voting for these people. The problem with the white middle class is that it’s no longer middle class, as defined by Max Weber and his “middle class morality.” The middle class is now just as indebted as the poor, only with mortgages, has the morals of alley cats, popping pills and turning to the bottle. Their 15 year old daughters getting knocked up by the neck tatted 22 year old down the street who works on his motorcycle…or a black guy. Not that… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

One only needs to read Charles Murray’s book: Coming Apart. Murray calls your description of the current middle class “Fish Town”. The middle class has been hollowed out and the pathologies are real—and his book is 15 years old!

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Great precis.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

NY14 went for AOC because it’s now a “Latinx” district. People want to ignore tribal voting, but it exists. The most hilarious example in recent years was this Cook County judicial election https://tinyurl.com/y5kl8nqh. Guy couldn’t win as Phil Spiwak. Won as Shannon O’Malley.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
3 years ago

In 1996 Christopher Lasch wrote “The Revolt of the Elites and the Betrayal of Democracy.” Where we are today has been in the works for quite a while.

Drew
Drew
3 years ago

It’s funny how tech utopists want to create a walled garden of limited choices. It sounds rather Edenic, but for some reason humans have consistently chosen to operate outside the confines of utopian limits. Because human nature is immutable in this way, the attempt by tech companies to control people by their smartphones will eventually run into the issue of enforcing compliance. People on the margins will only be motivated by violence, not ostracism, and as more people are marginalized more violence is needed to maintain order, which becomes increasingly expensive and less effective. But yes, knowing how to code… Read more »

MN Steel
MN Steel
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

This is known more commonly as “The Looting Phase of Empire” and is the penultimate phase.

Violence during “The Collapse of Empire” is assured, and results in cities awash in blood.

Remember the Phil Collins Driver’s Ed song?

Drew
Drew
Reply to  MN Steel
3 years ago

Who’s Phil Collins?

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

I think he was that bloke who flew the Apollo 11 command module around the moon, whilst the other two (forget their names) went down to check it out.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Buzz Lightyear, and Martin Armstrong.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

Lance Armstrong, the long-distance runner. Pft.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

No, no. You’re thinking of Louis Armstrong, the famous cyclist.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

He sang while he orbited the moon too.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Jim Smith
3 years ago

and doing so while drumming !!

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Genesis!

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Also an amateur Texas historian.

Vizzini
Reply to  Jim Smith
3 years ago

He got them there by sling-shotting the capsule with his extremely rubbery arms. That’s why they came out with those Stretch Armstrong action figures.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jim Smith
3 years ago

Specifically, he sang “Fly Me to the Moon.”

Higgs Boson
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

The name of a drink AOC invented, laced with estrogen supplements. It makes you think you’re pretty.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

For the political entity called the United States of Amercia, this is as good a synopsis as one is likely to read describing where we’ve been, currently are, and where we’re headed (barring the proverbial anvil falllng out of the sky on our collective heads).
Otherwise, welcome to the gulag where it doesn’t matter much who the guards or prisoners are.

Thud Muffle
Member
3 years ago

At my age I don’t have too much longer to worry about the future. But boy howdy do the Boomers have a lot to answer for.

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  Thud Muffle
3 years ago

Especially the smug Texas Boomer couple celebrated ad nauseam Thanksgiving Day on the vaunted Newsmax for sending a life-size cutout of themselves to the grandkids in place of being personally with them for dinner. You couldn’t cut the irony with a chainsaw.

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ssbishop
ssbishop
Member
Reply to  Thud Muffle
3 years ago

Lumping all ‘Boomers’ together to assert some allegation is as simplistic as any such broad generalizations. I’ve tried to live my life within Christian teachings, been married for over 50 years, served in the infantry in Viet Nam, enjoy my grandchildren, and am retired. What exactly is it that I have to answer for and to whom, other than my God?

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  ssbishop
3 years ago

You resist lumping people together, eh? What do you think of The Bell Curve, and all it entails? Are we all really just homoeconomicus atoms, floating around making our empowered consumer choices?
You were in a group, your group lost, get over it and do better next time instead of insisting YOU didn’t lose, just your entire generation and civilization lost.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

The Bell curve does the exact opposite of lumping folk together—it distributes them. Change your name to “Ignorant Redneck”. It would be more apropos.

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Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  ssbishop
3 years ago

Addendum: you can apologize to your grandkids for leaving them as a hated and oppressed minority in their own ancestral homeland.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

This seems like counseling is in order. Can you show us on the doll where the boomer touched you?

Captain Obvious
Captain Obvious
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Can you show us on the doll where the boomer touched you?

Jesus H Christ, a JIDF j00 masquerading as a White boomer.

Can it get any worse than that?

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  ssbishop
3 years ago

Viet Nam.
To the 3 million Vietnamese murdered.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  ssbishop
3 years ago

You can answer for thinking you’re such a special and individual snowflake. How many times have others posted NAXALT? How many times does it have to pointed out that everything is not all about you, personally? I may hate everything modern women and boomers stand for, but I’m a woman and a boomer, like it or not. Generational labels tend to be . . . generalizations. Deal with it and drop the passive/aggressive stance.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
3 years ago

Thus the amazing, last-ditch phenomenon of Trump, who should not exist, or whose existence is impossible. Thus the example of Trump’s demand that Section 230 be overturned, or he won’t sign the bill in front of him. Like I said, last ditch effort.

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RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Jim Smith
3 years ago

Just a friendly reminder that Trump signed every Omnibus Spending Bill they sent to his desk. Including the one preventing him from building a wall using any prototype, and the one that prevented him from deporting any illegal with a minor in their household. Each time he could have signed a Continuing Resolution, but chose not to.

Member
3 years ago

If you aren’t chipping in a couple of bucks on Subscribestar, you are missing some excellent content.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Arthur Sido
3 years ago

Aye. I came to the conclusion that the daily content here just wasn’t enough. Subscribing is a bargain.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Contrubuting is not a bargain, it is an opportunity.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
3 years ago

Never understood why the people with the guns and the strong backs cower to money men and stalkers. Maybe because of public ignorance? Well, that’s changing fast. These really aren’t formidable people.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Because most of the people with guns of whom you speak are not yet (if ever) at a moral inflection point where they could actually shoot a money man (possibly you, or someone else here stated something like this recently). I have a sense, however, that if /when the tipping point where that barrier is breached – peope are gonna’ go all Jacoban on them

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

The way I’ve heard it described is that for the (((Left))) and its pets is that violence is like a volume knob from 1 to 10 they can adjust as needed.

For conservatives violence is like a switch that can only flip from 1 to 10 with great difficulty.

Once that switch flips though…

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

People are starting to ask me what to do. It’s coming soon.

Plus government has lots of guns. Why should they be submissive to people who are making them irrelevant? Best I can tell they’re still worried about paying the bills. Much better for them to cut bait and make common cause with the people who don’t depend on them imo.

In the near future, what’s left of government will make a strong ally. Cities will be ripe for retaking, and with them, civilization.

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Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Cities will be ripe for retaking, and with them, civilization.
Yep but you will have to be alive and how the manpower and resources to do that which you will only be able to do if you have Community before hand…

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

Community is spot on as always. Cities are not civilization though, They are a technology that allows strangers to live and work together to generate more wealth.
Beyond energy costs they also come at a terrible social cost . They shred IQ and reduce population do to increased living costs and more opportunities.
We are going to need a lot of population growth to afford the luxury of cities and that may not happen for decades.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

If normie’s waking up all over like he’s waking up around here, community will take care of itself. It’s mind blowing.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

The city issue will be a bit strange as many of them will have to be partially demolished and scavanged for resources. The reason for this is we will have had horrendous losses on all sides and we have a far too efficient and thus fragile food generation system. We’ll need to go back to nasty things like urban slaughterhouses and taking large chunks of arable land now in cities and making small farms of it. This might lead to larger family sizes but as we recover, any such bubble will be an illusion. Once people no longer need kids… Read more »

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
3 years ago

Cities are already emptying out. Hopefully it plays out without a lot of bloodshed.

While I prefer rural living cities are centers of law culture and commerce. Unless we want to be Mongols we need them 🙂

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

If we retain our technolgy and the beneficial previous works like good law of the past, granted both questionable assumptions, we won’t need cities nearly as much.
More people will be in agriculture do to the economic collapse and what factories we retain can be out nearer to smaller towns.
As for culture, cities are again no longer needed as incubators with the tech for production and sharing of information being democratized,

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  abprosper
3 years ago

True tech is the wild card

Geo. Orwell
Geo. Orwell
3 years ago

The emerging social credit system and “freedom passes” are what the new ruling class thinks will replace the social capital they have devoured.

Ah, Boris Johnson. Never was there a conservative who didn’t happily stab his “principles” in the back. 

Mark Auld
Mark Auld
Reply to  Geo. Orwell
3 years ago

I believe Boris is as big a disappointment to me as the unbelievable results of our U.S. election. Any semblance of faith in the system and it’s figure heads has now been snuffed out. Black pills and self reliance…pass it on.

Captain Obvious
Captain Obvious
Reply to  Geo. Orwell
3 years ago

All you need to know about Boris Johnson is (((Boris Johnson))).

Q.E.D.

Rich
Member
3 years ago

This article immediately brought to mind the useless congressional hearings we see with FB, Twitter, and Google that never go anywhere.
OT – We lost Walter Williams today, a slightly more down to earth version of Thomas Sowell. Bright POC.

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
3 years ago

“The irony is that this was the approach favored by fascist movements, but no one dares mention that bit of history.” Because, like a lot of “fascism”, it’s just common sense. It’s no more essentially “fascist” than speaking German or Italian. Compare the way “progressives” promoted eugenics. (Canada has a Progressive Conservative party). It’s also “Christian socialism” hence the number of Euro parties with Christian in the name. In fact, it’s what any rational society would create; “liberalism” (Europe) or “libertarianism” (US) is the irrational outlier. Fun fact: I attended a Catholic college in Canada long before PC, but Canada… Read more »

Drake
Drake
Reply to  James O'Meara
3 years ago

American conservatives are starting to reconsider a lot of things right now.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  James O'Meara
3 years ago

I mostly agree with this. And we now have the worst of both worlds on healthcare. We get to pay for health insurance now, without the actual care at the end. A $6k annual deductible for most people is not actual insurance. Either option, a socialist system or a full cash upfront system would be far superior. But instead let’s blow it all on F-22s to bomb Ay-rabs for Israel.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Trust me, socialism sucks regrading healthcare I know from Italy that you get all the africans and weirdoes plus the pensioners in the public system. These are hospitals fromMussolini days and the doctors tend to be the bottom of the barrel. Anyone with a decent job opts for private care, and any decent job one of the main perks is private health insurance. The best and newest facilities are private, and the best docs. The same would happen here. Unless someone thinks the Kardashians are going to be sharing their doctors with us and we’ll be bumping into them in… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

The biggest issue is having a private path for when the socialism fails, which it does. In some countries it’s downright illegal for a doctor to just hang out his shingle for cash. In wealthy areas of CA many doctors are now on a cash basis already. What I don’t want is to share the same hospital with losers, which is what’s going on now. One person in one bed paying a million, the next one a homeless guy on Medicaid. I don’t want to see these people when I’m well, especially not when I’m sick. I remember seeing an… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

JR. Exactly. Follow the money. When you can convince me that the rich and politically powerful will get the same health care you are planning for me (“free” of course), I’ll listen. But the reality is that TPTB will in some form, “opt out”, and get better care and better results than us surfs. All I want is the same chance.

Of course, that costs money and not all of us have such money—but that is the way of the world, and always has been. I refuse to let egalitarian delusions be the death of me.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

I hear ya. Why it’s becoming ever more apparent to me, and you all as well, that we need our own community. All we really need is a town doctor for 95% of the stuff. For the major stuff and how to handle that, I’ll leave that to the more intelligent among us. Even a medic who worked the war fields or a nurse are invaluable. They can handle pretty much everything except major surgeries. I live in CA too. I have health insurance but pay cash at the clinic in Burbank if I need something basic. It’s only like… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Amen Brother glad people are waking up to that fact that as the situation deteriorates that having Community will be invaluable for a lot of different things…Take my doctor she doesn’t require me to wear a mask, actually cares about my health and offers things that big corp doesn’t for preventive care…

Guest
Guest
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

The health insurance system is fairly self-contained from a financial perspective. The money generated by the outrageous premiums and deductibles we suffer is being transferred to pay for free or extremely subsidized care for the ever-expanding pool of the poor. I used to be outraged by this, but the reality is that globalism has so completely destroyed the earning power of the working class that they simply can’t afford health insurance anymore. Biden has indicated that his “government option” will only be open to persons at income levels which would qualify them for medicaid under expanded Obamacare, but who live… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Guest
3 years ago

If we can have toll lanes on highways where you can avoid traffic we should have a whole separate ‘Paying” unit at hospitals. We’ll NEVER just abandon government sponsored healthcare. So the best option is that once someone is stabilized in the ER, they go one of two separate wings. The private wing with the butterfly garden and concierge service and all the best doctors, and the “public wing” for all the losers who abused their bodies anyway. No different than a cruise ship with different areas for different people. Some hospitals have the corner suites you can pay for,… Read more »

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Guest
3 years ago

That’s was the purpose of ObamaCare – destroy private health insurance.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Good. Private health insurance is often as not no better than socialized medicine and is part of the reason many drugs are so damned expensive in the US as to be unaffordable and we spend a lot more for health care than other nations. Greedy financiers are poison. Hybrid systems that have both elements and State mitigation of costs work rather well though , solid life expectancy and cover everybody. However because the Supreme Court considers money to be speech we cannot do that and our government is up for the highest bidder. Its hoplessly broken until we get a… Read more »

Captain Obvious
Captain Obvious
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

> let’s blow it all on F-22s

At least the F22s work, unlike the (((F35s))) we send to j00land for free.

TomA
TomA
3 years ago

All true, now go deeper. Where does this lead? Two archetypal possibilities. One, the gravy train keeps rolling because we truly live in a post scarcity world in which production is on autopilot and boundless (beehive model, drones subsist & elites thrive). Or two, the economy crashes when governments run out of Other Peoples Money (but first, the elites hightail it out of town after grifting every possible dime of wealth). As in California and Illinois, what happens when those public pensions find that the cupboard is empty and all the 401ks also become worthless when the stock market crashes… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Going to be interesting when the boomers die off and there goes all that demand for stocks and real estate

Poof

Who will keep it propped up? I’m looking forward to it. Get real estate for decent prices.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

You assume the Boomers will take their money to the grave? Over $60T is estimated to be passed on through those 401K’s you decry. The Millennials will put it to good use in the economy.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

The “value” will evaporate when the demand suddenly plummets

Moral of the story: if boomers want their kids to inherit something, buy property and more the merrier. Sure, leave some stocks for liquidity, and cash if you can, but millennials make are the folks secure you some nice real property.

You can thank me later

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RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

There is no Stock “Market.” A market implies concepts like “price discovery.” What we have now is “injection of liquidity” (aka “money printer go brrr”.) As for RE, as long as we import 3 Million people a year, you don’t have to worry about the portfolio value of RE going down. You only have to worry about citizens being able to afford homes.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

It’s not so much a stock market as it is a holding pen for boomer retirement funds. They create the demand and keep the valuations propped up. once they go…..

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Lol, you think people will still have 401(k)’s. At the first squeeze, those will be nationalized and redistributed faster than a big screen teevee in a Detroit Target.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

There has been talk of such, wrt denomination/conversion to Treasuries. But I doubt it. Such would crash the economy and no one would keep paper currency or bank again. Everywhere this has been done, economic downturn has occurred.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

My husband just shakes his head at his old co-workers who stuck with the fedgov, counting their pensions and stocks. They really think they get to live the next 25 years the way the silents/boomers have for the past 25 years. Regardless of voting/political machinations, demographics alone means they’re going to be wrung out and hung out to dry.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

Yep, those 401Ks will be confiscated at some point in some form or fashion, be it taxes or what have you, with boomers at the tail end of the population curve getting hosed the worst

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
3 years ago

Zman, i googled “Mary Sue Kicks A Ball” (with the double quotes) and google doesn’t find your article. thought you would want to know that…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

Yeah.. but…but… it was like 30 yards! So stunning… so brave!

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

now it looks like the rest of the team is going to bail on the rest of the season. smart move, why risk permanent injury for a pozzed charade…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

They are probably just intimidated by her girl power.

Roberto
Roberto
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Yea, almost as good as an average high school boy.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

“I meant to do that!” Every 10 year old who screws up in front of his friends

Higgs Boson
3 years ago

Welcome to the emerging trans human paradigm. AI is the new government. How will the criminal enterprise cope with being replaced by brain chips? Do they have the intellectual wherewithal to resist? I’m pretty sure they are outgunned, in that respect.

WhereAreTheVikings
WhereAreTheVikings
Reply to  Higgs Boson
3 years ago

Transhuman paradigm which will be furthered along at a rapid clip by the nanotechnology in the vaccines.

Cameron
Cameron
3 years ago

Everything you write is very good but this is exceptional. Reminds me a lot of Jim Kalb’s writing.

Orpheus13
Orpheus13
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

Agree, this post and the previous one (“Suspicious minds”) truly are masterpieces.

Falcone
Falcone
3 years ago

Add it all up, and seems to me we are in a place similar to early 20th century where the only option is to blow it all up in the war to end all wars arguments I would have with LIbs went this way. I would argue that Yes, you can have gay men marrying, but then you upset a lot of people who are left steaming and stewing in private. As these things layer up thicker, people either say screw it, blow it all up, or find me a strongman. If the libs would have just taken things slow,… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

It seems the leftard takeover and corruption of society and our culture was fairly gradual up until the last decade or so. Since, the degradation has gone into overdrive and a lot of people are looking around, thinking WTF and perhaps getting closer to a screw it all mentality and hoisting the black flag.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

If the libs would have just taken things slow, let things develop more naturally.

I see your point. There is a safe, natural rhythm to ‘progress’. Start changing things too quick and then tell people they cannot say anything about it does no one any favours in the long run. I think there was a Taki’s article by Jim Goad where he spoke about the possible reasons that so many mass shooters left behind lengthy manifestos.

Problem is, as we know, the average wokist is pissed off that you:

  1. Are happy
  2. Have different opinions
  3. Both of the above
Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

there’s “progress” which is today’s world is forced on people

then there’s “change” which comes naturally and is a feature of life

Notice how the left has co-opted the concept of change and a person’s willingness to embrace it for political ends. Man loves and needs change, say the change of seasons, the rolling of the world that brings new life. But then these bastards stole even that form of trust and politicized it.

Whiskey
Whiskey
3 years ago

Add on .. Macron is interesting. He was the great liberal anti-Populist international hope. After a near death with the Yellow Jackets protests over gas taxes he’s veered to the right accidentally against Muslims as he got into a slap fight with Erdogan over Libya (each has ambitions there). He’s outlawing Muslim organizations and deporting Muslim leaders. This could be an accident of his slap-fight with Erdogan. Or he could have inside info that his tax base has now collapsed and inside the Euro he must cut social spending that keeps Muslims relatively quiet and is readying himself for dumping… Read more »

BadThinker
BadThinker
3 years ago

Don’t hold out for too long, or it will affect your credit rating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu0pv-hkNPc

This movie was not supposed to be an instruction manual.

trackback
3 years ago

[…] ZMan looks behind the curtain. […]

Penitent Man
Penitent Man

And as a teaser of things to come, here is a little story of TechLord minions and minor government stooges playing pay-for-play to arm themselves.

It should be noted that Apple Inc. and the Sheriff’s Dept. investigated themselves and found no wrong doing! The deal got soured when someone at the District Attorney’s office leaked the info to the Sheriff.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-security-chief-offered-ipads-to-police-as-a-bribe-for-gun-permits-prosecutors-allege-11606176850

miforest
Member
3 years ago
Lauren
Lauren
3 years ago
https://winteroak.org.uk/2020/10/05/klaus-schwab-and-his-great-fascist-reset/
theRussians
theRussians
Member
3 years ago
Silicon Valley controls the flow of information, while Wall Street controls the flow of money. When necessary, Washington supplies the force. There is no role for labor 

Mike Lee’s green card bill passes unanimously, there’s obviously a role for labour, just not what I expected.

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
3 years ago
Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
3 years ago

Very solid analysis of the emerging power structures

Whiskey
Whiskey
3 years ago

Several things that are interesting. One, Rick Wilson wants Trump voters identified and “humiliated” and put in prison, with the help of Big Tech. The model being Cultural Revolution China which retarded that nation’s progress for 30 + years. Two, one Biden official plans a national soda tax, which even Bernie rejected. To be paired with plan meat, poultry, eggs, milk, and cheese taxes. Abolition of gun ownership and prison for blacks, and abolition of the police. Obama noted Dems should not mention abolish the police and AOC and the Squad told him to … shut up. Dems plan to… Read more »

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Whiskey
3 years ago

Arguably, ever dictator in history was using or allied with lower class people in opposition to upper class people. There are a few notable exceptions, but only a few, and they all devolved back to upper class oligarchy along the way.