Conspiracy Land

Note: The Monday Taki post is here and there is a post behind the green door from the weekend.


Something that seems to be a part of every revolution and great period of social unrest is that a cloud of suspicion descends on the society. The people, through distrust and ignorance, no longer understand or trust their rulers. The rulers, because of insularity and obstinance, no longer understand what is happening in their society. There may be factions in the public that view one another with suspicion, so they are not able to properly evaluate one another, adding to the chaos.

One thing that happens when people can no longer trust their rulers is they are ready to believe anything. The French Revolution and Bolshevik revolution, for example, had periods where crazy rumors rocketed around society. We are seeing this today with the QAnon stuff and the election lawsuits. The former was mostly escapism for unhappy people on the left-side of the bell curve. The latter was escapism for the civic nationalists who are one step from exiting the system.

In both cases, the role of these rumors and wild theories is to distract from the reality on the ground. People really wanted to believe Trump was the answer to the failing system, so they were willing to accept increasing ridiculous explanations for his inability and unwillingness to follow through on his promises. The people into this stuff are not sitting around compulsively cleaning their weapons, surrounded by stocks of MRE’s. They are highly engaged citizens who believe in the system.

Suburban civ-nats are not the only people indulging in escapism. The cosmopolitan loyalists have their own Harry Potter version of reality. You see it in this ridiculous video put out by the Tubby Tyrant of the Tidewater. Hogan is backed by the Chinese Communist Party and the neoconservatives, who think they can slither back into power and it will be the Bush years all over again. Republican escapism is built on the idea that everyone will just forget about the last four years.

You see, in this fantasy, Trump is expelled from their midst and the people rally to their banner, prepared to return to a world of old fashioned toadyism. Those sober-minded Republicans will be at the helm again, promising tax cuts for billionaires and endless wars for Israel. After all, that’s what Edmund Burke and Reagan would do. Of course, their masters promote the idea, as you see in this post. Ross Duothat’s role is to promote conservative’s official role in the farce of politics.

You’ll note that no where in that post or any of the writings of these people is there any consideration for why any of this is happening. That Duothat post should have been accompanied by this picture. While lots of white people are no doubt indulging in fantasy in the face of the massive corruption we are seeing, they are doing so for a deeper reason than just escapism. There are real problems that are not going to be papered over by installing the Pretender Biden.

Reality avoidance is not just for the little people. The reaction to the Covid-10 pandemic by members of the plutocracy is another form of escapism. Bill Gates sees himself as a trusted wise man in modern society. He has been out front promoting the latest fads on the coronavirus virus. Why a retired computer executive thinks he is an expert on pandemics is a mystery, but a bigger mystery is why he thinks the world at large trusts his judgement and advice on this issue.

This is probably the most remarkable aspect of the pandemic. The people in charge are completely unaware of the fact that hardly anyone believes them. Even the people wearing their masks to bed think the rulers have botched things. We’re not seeing public surveys on the handling of the pandemic, as it would be a waste of time and it would contradict the fantasy. The people at the top really think they are beloved by the public and it is a small bunch of hooligans causing trouble for them.

To some degree, it really does not matter what anyone thinks, other than the people in control of the institutions. They have the monopoly of force, so they can impose their reality on the rest of us. We see this with the election. The media and tech oligarchs are erasing any questions about the election and will carry on as if the Pretender Biden is a wildly popular hero of the people. They are even trying to sell him to religious people as a “church-going Catholic” who also believes in infanticide.

The thing is though, and this is the great irony of liberal democracy, is that the system needs the fantasy of self-rule to operate. The middle-class has to believe that their votes matter and the market place is always right. These efforts to suppress public debate in order to repress skepticism over the official narrative do more to undermine that fantasy of self-rule than the wild rumors. QAnon believers will keep believing the plan is still real. Take that away and the scales fall from their eyes.

This is why social unrest comes with wild rumors and conspiracy theories. The dynamic of distrust leads to various forms of escapism, which creates a barrier of confusion between the rulers and the ruled. The people at the top, rather than face their own role in the crisis, indulge in their fantasies. The people at the bottom look for explanations as to why things are not as they were promised. The desire to impose an official narrative creates more distrust, leading to more conspiracy theories.

House slaves like Ross Duothat hope that the escapism is a substitutive for real action, but the ongoing street theater says otherwise. The far Left was promised a revolution, so they will not play along with the fantasy. Now the populist Right is getting a taste of street radicalisms and they like it. A new populism is being born in the streets during these election protests. Lots of unhappy people in the streets, feeling the rush or revolt, will have time to share their theories with one another.

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Drake
Drake
3 years ago

“How can the stock market be booming when the economy is being cratered by lock downs?”
We are watching an orchestrated wealth transfer from small businesses to large connected ones.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Exactly. As someone wrote here recently, the dying empire has entered the looting stage.

ABCer
ABCer
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Yes a lot of that was buybacks.
See Boeing. The stock market rose on debt financed stock buybacks.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  ABCer
3 years ago

Also “the New York Fed’s Trading Desk has grown from $576 billion in holdings of domestic securities as of December 31, 2008 (at the peak of the last financial crisis) to $6.59 trillion as of December 9, 2020. And according to the New York Fed’s most recent financial statement, its Trading Desk’s domestic securities holdings have spiked by $15.9 billion in just the past week.” https://tinyurl.com/y4ucvsno Our economy is run less ethically than a Las Vegas Casino after the mob relocated from Cuba.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Not exactly. The stock market is booming because it is entirely driven by the feds money creation, not the underlying health or lack thereof of the company’s whose stocks are traded there.

Thats largely been the case since at least 2009. It’s just become painfully obvious this year.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

I think it’s a bit of both.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

Buy wheelbarrow stock, everyone’s gonna need one instead of a wallet.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

But they’re going to Build Back Better! Translation: less White businesses, more black businesses because they need to “champion justice and redress the intersectionality of systemic inequalities that exist.” (World Economic Forum-speak.)

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

From Arthur Sido:
Cory Booker is proposing a $240 billion dollar program to create 200,000 black farmers.
Dissident Thoughts: Cory Booker’s Plan To Turn America Into South Africa (arthursido.com)

grab-ass
grab-ass
Reply to  Judge Smails
3 years ago

blacks cant fargin’ farm

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Judge Smails
3 years ago

It probably won’t work for a myriad of reasons but if they are already in already heavily Black states and were are actually interested in the hard work of yeomanry and got the right training, that idea wasn’t bad at all.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Judge Smails
3 years ago

Saw that a few weeks back. Pure looting. Nobody thinks blacks can or want to farm. This will be a simply transfer of money from your pockets to blacks.

The blacks will sit on the land for a few years and sell it cheap to a certain group that will then either rent it out to farmers or sell it back at FMV. A small number of blacks and a certain group not to be named will make a bundle.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Judge Smails
3 years ago

As long as they are turning over state and fed lands for new development, infrastructure to be done by FedGov, I HEARTILY support this idea. In 5 years, there will be huge opportunity for us to build our own communities in these newly highly developed ghosttowns.

Vizzini
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

No, it won’t work that way. You can’t let your enemies design the system and presume that you will be able to benefit from it.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

Is this apart from or in addition to the Claims Settlement Act of 2010 or “Pigford” https://tinyurl.com/ybu7eahv?

Vizzini
Reply to  Judge Smails
3 years ago

Worked so well in Zimbabwe.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

Maybe it should be Build Black Better..

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

If the Lord had ‘built black better’ we could all say, without argument, our present woes would not be upon us.

grab-ass
grab-ass
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

haha!

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

Black businesses? What, like record labels?

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

and jordans

WCiv...---...
WCiv...---...
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

The Covid lockdown will end as soon as every other business closes and everything you want can only be bought at Amazon or Walmart.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  WCiv...---...
3 years ago

If I need a specialty product I search to see if it’s available on-line from the manufacturer. Without fail, the first links in the search are Amazon and Walmart. Sometimes the manufacturer doesn’t show up until the second page. And this is using DDG.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  WCiv...---...
3 years ago

And you will still have local restaurants – they’ll just all be Applebees.

Member
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

If Trump does decide to go dictator, I’m hoping one of the things he does is a multi-trillion dollar tax on the large companies that have benefited from the criminal lockdowns. He could even encourage our schadenfreude and sense of irony by calling it, oh I don’t know – “Build Back Better!” and saying that it’s “reparations” to small business for the damage done. Hilarious and delicious too. Maybe some things like Google, Amazon, and Facebook could just be nationalized outright. That and watching Zuck, Bezos, and Dorsey marched off to the camps would make for a beautiful New Year… Read more »

WCiv...---...
WCiv...---...
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Here’s the plan.
Everything will be made in China.
Everything will be sold by Amazon and Walmart.
Everyone will be happy because you are either rich or sedated by Netflicks, spectator sports, and porn.

Durendal
Durendal
3 years ago

I have a large group of friends from a local church that is very conservative. By in large that have all been MAGA guys and big supporters of the GOP. To a man over the weekend they all have admitted that the Republicans have never actually supported them or the issues imported to conservative Christians. The shenanigans with the election and the Republican response has stripped away the last shred of support for them or honestly for liberal democracy. I was shocked and I now believe that things have been set in motion that will probably make the last century… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

I was dubious that a Trump loss due to widespread fraud would discredit the nation but hopeful. I’m glad to have been wrong in my skepticism. American Yellow Vests will be interesting.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Have to admit I thought they’d whiff again and he’d prevail but it doesn’t look like it. Why? He’s relying on lawyers and lawmakers, he long ago marginalized (and allowed to be marginalized) the people who got him elected. Trump gave MAGA to the establishment losers. I still like the guy but he’s enjoying the consequences. The worst part is he’s painted himself into a corner where the only way out is to go dictator like his enemies always said he was. A countercoup by Trump would only be the last act in the movie. Frankly it would be better… Read more »

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Norham Foul
Norham Foul
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Well maybe up next…the Donald goes to Florida nad the Desantis gives him a pardon for all existing and future crimes. The Donald is no longer compelled to return to NYC by extradition force.Personally, I hope he just stays in office…fuck ’em

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Norham Foul
3 years ago

Seriously? Governors can only pardon state-level crimes.

Vizzini
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

So, let the left do the damage instead? You act as if there’s a peaceful way out of this.

Damage needs to be done.

Last edited 3 years ago by Vizzini
Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

Poorly worded. I meant the winners from ‘16 who were marginalized and censored the last few years. Trump tried to go establishment right up until the last couple of weeks and it cost him.

Last edited 3 years ago by Paintersforms
Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

Once we have established there is no law, there is no bag limit, as Z likes to say.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

Also damage in the sense of Trump playing the White Russian role.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

I wonder how many will be kevlar vests?

B125
B125
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

Boomer radicalization is real.

I know one 60 year old former civnat who has done a 180 since the election. He was promoting tax cuts and legal immigration (must be legal!) before.

Now, he’s yelling that the Republicans need to start committing fraud to fight back, calling them cowards, and says that you can’t fight fair when somebody wants to destroy you. He’s also suddenly developed a skepticism about immigrants, to the point where I’m telling him to tone it back in public, lest someone overhear the badthink. Crazy.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

It’s time to be less openly radical then. At the risk of being a dick, I’m avoiding all things boomer, or maybe it’s better to say I’m participating in nothing they’re getting heavily involved in. They will never trust the ‘kids’ to lead, they were taught that capitalist patriots were fighting a losing war against the commies, and I have full confidence they’ll play that role. Time to hitch up to our own wagon.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

My son tells me two former liberals he knows are now more for Trump after all the criminal acts. One woman has elevated Trump to crazy god like status. All in their thirties. Take from that what you will.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Millennials. Let’s pray it’s a trend.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

Visited the parents yesterday, had a talk with them. Told them they have to realize the Constitution is now completely dead and the law isn’t going to save anybody. To my surprise they agreed.

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Marko
Marko
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

I’m envious that you have family members that are conservative. Almost all mine are lefty, and I have to bite my tongue constantly.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

I’m actually the ‘liberal’ of the family. Which is to say the only one crazy enough to stick my neck out, at least until recently. It’s kind of interesting that they see things more like I do, but also uncomfortable. I’m actually worried for them, because they’ve always avoided conflict. Not that I’m some badass, but I’m trying to give them a crash course. Proud of them though.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

You are going to create permanent damage to your tongue speak up and stop that

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

edit: I read that wrong 🙂

Last edited 3 years ago by Paintersforms
Juri
Juri
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

Typical collapse scenario similar to Soviet Union. With Gorbachev in charge, there was massive enthusiasm and optimism. Only to turn bitter disappointment very rapidly. Like probably now in the US , in late Soviet Union our folk also had a big hope to long awaited reforms until general public understood that system is so rotten and corrupt that nobody is able to reform it. At the very end, our public opinion turned also 180 in very short time. After 1917 our people were aware what may happen, when society is blown up. Within weeks in summer 1991 people against blowup… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Juri
3 years ago

Whatever happens, it is not going to look like the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

I don’t really care what it looks like just so long as the collapse happens.

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Oh, you’ll care, all right. Your pension and savings in the world’s reserve fiat currency wiped out, joggers looting a raping at will while what’s left of the state declares emergency powers and communist DAs go after you for even having the means of defending yourself because it’s a hate crime to do so. Remember how bad the collapse of Germany was during Weimar… and yet the government still had the power to arrest Uncle A and throw him in prison for the Munich putsch. Collapses are rarely as neat and tidy as we wish them to be. The collapse… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
3 years ago

Whatever happens, happens. If I survive, I at least have a chance to see Western civilization revived. Much better than watching it slowly bleed to death over the last 30+ years of my life.

DFCtomm
Member
Reply to  Xman
3 years ago

It’s called precious metals and buying land in some middle of nowhere part of Appalachia.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

I would be much more afraid that it will look like the first three or four Decades of the Soviet Union. Read Gulag Archipelago or other history. They rounded up everybody whether old communists, Trotskyist, real or imagined spies, anyone who could conveniently be denounced, even war heroes from World War II. Nobody was spared and it cost the lives of tens of Millions. If something comparable were to happen here they would round up anybody from us Conservatives to the most liberal Democrats of today. You don’t have to be a real criminal or enemy, you just have to… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Juri
3 years ago

Those are the most inspirational words I’ve heard in quite some time.

BtR
BtR
Reply to  Juri
3 years ago

Good comparison. Ironically we’d hope to achieve as peaceful a collapse, if it happens

Sand Wasp
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

To a man over the weekend they all have admitted that the Republicans have never actually supported them or the issues imported to conservative Christians.

I have lurked on freerepublic for the last 20 years. They have been saying the same thing forever. It doesn’t matter, they have the memory of a goldfish, and they always forget the anger and betrayal by the next election

”2024 most important election evah!”

Durendal
Durendal
Reply to  Sand Wasp
3 years ago

Normally I would completely agree with you but so much has changed and so many veils have been lifted from normie eyes that I believe they won’t forget.

grab-ass
grab-ass
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

I’ve never seen my elderly parents so disenchanted. THey usually agree with me just to shut me up, but now, unprovoked, are saying they will never vote again

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

All of the national congregations are run by SJWs. I expect no help from the churches, at least at the national level. The churches are going to try to tamp down on your friends. They will require strong leadership.

grab-ass
grab-ass
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

What is a “liberal democracy” ?

Last edited 3 years ago by grab-ass
Juri
Juri
Reply to  grab-ass
3 years ago

Renamed communism. Like social democracy, peoples democracy or latest our democracy.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Juri
3 years ago

Yep. The American flavor of the stuff. It’s coming down one of these days…

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

Well, given what seems to have been the historical situation with the Boy Skirts, I imagine it has many parallels to things that happened last century, specifically in the oval office and on Epstein’s island in the 1990’s (and Berlin in the 1920’s).

DFCtomm
Member
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

The people in charge have forgotten that faith in the system is the only thing that keeps the system together, and that is why they attack that faith. It’s a sign of the end times.

B125
B125
3 years ago

Vote GOP! You get:

– judges who look the other way on election fraud

– millions of h1b scab visas to steal your jobs

– jobs the h1b don’t take are sent to china in crooked trade deals

– violent african felons let out of jail

– platinum plan

Yee haw! Principled conservatism!

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Shhhh

Mentioning reality is being mean

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

I can’t remember exactly – was it the 90’s or early 2000’s when the “Mean People Suck” bumper stickers started appearing. The SJWs have been hating on us a long time.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Judge Smails
3 years ago

“Hate Has No Home Here” is the contemporary analogue to that one. The AWRs never tire of telling us just how gosh-dern sweet they are.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

A couple of weeks ago SCOTUS was discussing Deportation Relief. Gorsuch opined that the illegal in question “wasn’t using a Social Security card to defraud anybody of anything, but just to get a job.” FWIW, I’ve been the victim of identity theft. Nobody in LE will help you, even when merchants, etc. have cctv with the perps on film and are willing to help.

whitney
Member
3 years ago

It’s amazing how delusional Trump is. He can’t seriously think he’s running in 4 years. That he will live to see that as a free man?? So weird. My standard response when anyone starts talking fearfully about covid is to say “oh you know a lot of people that have died then?” I got to say it’s really amusing because of course the answer is always no they don’t know anyone. And then they start talking about the vaccine and how everything is going to be better in a few months and I just say “no it’s not” really calmly,… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

And then they start talking about the vaccine and how everything is going to be better in a few months and I just say “no it’s not” really calmly, smiling even. Yes. The precedent has been set. A full year ago nobody would have even suggested ‘lockdown’ as a viable thing to do. We would rightly laugh at individuals fervently wearing their protective visors, maintaining the 2m distance and arguing about whether it should in fact be 2m or 1.644m. The future sure is going to be interesting; like well trained troops no doubt the populace will respond in lockstep… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Maybe someday we too can have 59 vaccinations and be as strong and healthy as the kids are.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Covid-24? More likely, flu season every year.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

That’s essentially what they’re going for.

London is being threatened with hard lockdown because the British government is claiming to have found a super-duper new strain of Beer Flu.

Ooga booga!!!

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

My standard response when anyone starts talking fearfully about covid is to say “oh you know a lot of people that have died then?” Be careful with that, because more and more people are dying of Covid and there will be plenty of banner-wavers. No, I’m not saying what you think I am… In the not-too-distant past, people frequently died at old age or from cancer or disease. Their passing may have been hastened on by a co-morbidity like pneumonia, influenza, common cold, or any number of relatively minor things that are nasty when the system is already seriously compromised.… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by Outdoorspro
whitney
Member
Reply to  Outdoorspro
3 years ago

It falls on deaf ears no matter what.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Good point.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Well, it doesn’t fall on deaf ears so much as it falls on dumb brains.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

Have you discovered a way to tell the difference?

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Outdoorspro
3 years ago

Deaf people can’t hear, so they either don’t respond or they use sign language. Stupid people use words, but those words are come out in an insensible stream.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

And that ultimately may be our problem in a nutshell. Far too many people are just dumb as a pile of rebar.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Possibly. If there’s one lesson we should learn from the left, it’s that it’s best to use rhetoric that inspired dumb people, rather than try to reason with them. Just accept their stupidity and leverage it.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Outdoorspro
3 years ago

When gramma starts dying from the vax the Covidian argument will immediately flip to, “Lol, old people die all the time, silly.”

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Outdoorspro
3 years ago

I know nobody who’s died but many who’ve had their lives wrecked by the lockdown.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Outdoorspro
3 years ago

Be careful with that, because more and more people are dying of Covid and there will be plenty of banner-wavers

dying after have a “test” come back positive is not the same as dying from the WuFlu.

B125
B125
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

He’s gonna run from his jail cell in a fraud election where Kamala gets 800 gorillion votes and wins in a landslide victory. Lol.

Gunner Q
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

I tried that. Didn’t work even when it did. One guy in the circle had a housemate whose mother’s friend died of COVID (and a lung transplant) and everybody else nodded sagely.

There is no convincing them they’re wrong. They are separated from reality. You can hear the talking points and non sequiturs coming. “You can’t argue that face masks don’t block some of the aerosol droplets of your breath. Therefore, masks stop the spread of disease, which is also why you need to social distance.” Actual conversation.

Vizzini
Reply to  Gunner Q
3 years ago

whose mother’s friend died of COVID (and a lung transplant)

Haha. Lung transplant. And a respiratory disease.

Only person I know of second hand who died with COVID was already dying of pancreatic cancer. I also know of a guy with lung cancer who tested positive and they made him stay overnight, but by morning he’d had quite enough of that, thank you. Checked himself out and by the afternoon was out on his tractor working his farm.

Yes, this virus is serious stuff.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

In four years there won’t be elections.

Vizzini
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

That would be the best possible outcome. Hard to make normie explain that away.

Manc
Manc
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

It’ll be an Americanized version of the PRI’s 70 year rule of Mexico. Illiberal democracy.

Vizzini
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

My standard response when anyone starts talking fearfully about covid is to say “oh you know a lot of people that have died then?” Most of my kids are super-based, but I have one daughter who is extremely conventional in a lot of ways. I was at the grocery store with her the other day and I kept flaunting the masking laws and she kept saying stuff like “Dad! Pull your mask up!” So, I’d pull it up a few seconds and then let drop down and go “Oops! Help! Police!” and she’d say “Dad!” But it was cracking her… Read more »

grab-ass
grab-ass
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

I say,”how many loved ones have you lost to the Covid?”

Locust Post
Locust Post
3 years ago

From what I see, the media is more fiction than fact—I guess that is why they refer to the news as a narrative.  You have to trust your eyeballs first. In my case, I own a well-located building that housed a very popular, casual restaurant. The building is grand, the restaurant was simple, with excellent local food and reasonable prices.  Covid shut the place down and street riots chased most of the customers away. The owner who supported a young family and forty or so employees ran out of money and is gone for good.  There been no rent since the shutdown… Read more »

David Wright
Member
3 years ago

When they tabulate unemployment numbers one thing goes missing. All the business owners and self employed don’t get counted when their careers are cancelled. That is a substantial number. Of course the official tabulations are not accurate but still needs to be said.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Yep, and that’s why the economic geniuses (I.e. 20 something analysts hired by mega firms) were caught by surprise at the higher number of unemployment claims in the past month

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Isn’t the “gig” economy great? /s

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
3 years ago

> We are seeing this today with the QAnon stuff and the election lawsuits.  While the idea of the lawsuits getting anywhere are the stuff of fantasy, as anyone can see with the clowns on the WI supreme court, it carries with it a propaganda victory. Even though the cases ARE solid, I’m pretty sure both Rudy and Trump are aware they will all get shot down, but what they succeed in doing is give cover for legislatures to override the election based on the general perception corrupt and weak courts. In the case they do not succeed, it makes… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

This is the dream scenario for us.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

The major question at this point is –

Are there any teeth in Trump’s 2018 EO regarding electoral fraud?

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

There’s this. Can’t wait to find out what the classified part is.

“Ron on Twitter: “Research “Executive Directive 51” If a “catastrophic emergency” results in extraordinary levels of disruption affecting the US population, infrastructure, government functions, then POTUS may be able to dissolve Congress and suspend judicial review Exact details are classified.” / Twitter” https://mobile.twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1337927415465533440

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Higgs Boson
3 years ago

Cope Harder. Trust the Plan! Did you read the article re: left side of the Bell Curve?

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

The visions of the lotus eaters on the left side create “reality.”

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

Eh. People don’t get their feet wet crossing the river until they are convinced in their own minds. You stay on the elevator for the ups and downs until you are convinced the wires snapped and no one is coming to fix it; only then do you get off and start walking.

Hedge
Hedge
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Hopium is all we have left.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Hedge
3 years ago

I prefer to trust in plumbium.

Vizzini
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

I’ll trust in copper-jacketed lead.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Trump will be 78 in 2024, and there is no way big tech will ever allow a populist not of their making to ever run again.

Trump is a failure anyway…no one man without the backing of a national party can make big changes, so it’s not all his fault. The president is a creature of the system, and the system is irreparably broken.

I won’t waste time (or money) backing the GOP or Trump ever again.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

I hope he doesn’t run again. If he can avoid prison, he would be much more effective as a kingmaker for the next generation and blasting the Liz Cheneys of the GOP. It’s just a matter of if his ego can handle that role.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

In spite of it all, I think we owe it to him to keep him out of jail. I hope he’s not naive enough to be making deals.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

The Power Structure may allow Trump to run; it will not allow him to win.

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

All legal avenues must be exhausted to establish the fact that there is no longer any law.

This is where we begin.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Higgs Boson
3 years ago

I do think that is the utility of all this courting process. I doubt Trump has the stones to do that thing that he should do, but demonstrating how far within the normal bounds of law he has gone makes what is essentially our point for us. When you hear some person say they would die for Trump, what you should hear them trying to say is that they would kill to stop the sadistic overlords who rule us. I think all the Q-Anon-ing and the rest of the conspiracy theories are how people cope with a nation moving from… Read more »

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Higgs Boson
3 years ago

I interact with a group of conservative/CivNat types.
They had total faith in the system. Trump was the savior who was going to win in a landslide. The election fraud shook their faith in the system but then they latched on to Amy Coney Barrett and the gang setting everything right. Now that they can’t deny that the lawsuits have failed, they’re finally giving up on the system completely.
People who were all about “voting GOP to save the Republic from socialism” now are saying they’ll never vote again.

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Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Federalist
3 years ago

He did win in a landslide, that’s the thing isn’t it? It’s hard to point to any future elections when it’s obvious that even a blow-out victory will be negated.

My Comment
Member
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

The Civ/Nats I know now dream of a third party led by Trump that will combine dissidents on the right and left. They can’t acknowledge that the widespread voter fraud that has been sanctioned by the courts will render a third party impossible.

Vizzini
Reply to  Higgs Boson
3 years ago

Why? To kill time? All the “legal avenues” and “peaceful options” read like Underpants Gnome plans.

  1. “Resist the state with this legal/peaceful option
  2. ???
  3. Profit!
Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

What are Underpants Gnome plans? Is kevlar involved?

Vizzini
Reply to  Higgs Boson
3 years ago

Old South Park reference.

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

Thanks, no tv. I tossed it when Obama became president.

Festus
Festus
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

“In the case they do not succeed, it makes Trump more of a martyr of a broken system, which will help his possible run in 2024.” Why does this insane post have 23 up-votes? If Trump can’t fight the corruption and hold onto his current Presidency in what world does he have a chance in 2024 when he’s out? If this stolen election is allowed to stand, there is no next time where we have a chance of winning at the ballet box. Ever. Even with Trump. I see so many on the dissident boards talking about “we’ll get’em next… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
3 years ago

More interesting than the distrust, at least with record to Kovid, is the trust. Why, despite overwhelming evidence that the danger of Kovid is wildly overblown, do people continue cringing and cowering as if it was 1370 and the Black Death was raging? Why, despite the obvious fact that Karen Kloths are an ineffective defense against a largely illusory threat, do the masses continue with the mask masquerade? I believe the chief reason is that people fear the notion that the Power Structure cannot be trusted. They want desperately to believe the present is just like the old days when… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Around by me, it’s mostly immigrants who are buying into the Kovid

These people trust the government, being more or less part of it

Struck me as pretty funny that at the outset it was all the Mexicans who otherwise don’t mind breaking every law in the book who were the ones so diligent and compliant with St Kovid mask orders

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

A friend of mine told me that he ran into a federal attorney at a bank after the mask BS started and was chatting with him. The Fed said rather ruefully “This is nuts, I’ve put people in prison for less than this.” Truth is wearing mask makes them feel like a bandit or outlaw. Its fun and legal for a change. Put on scarf and a ballcap and viola, Watchdogs chic. Same for some nerds. What is interesting is few Black Hispanic or Whites are willing to take the vaccine. They suspect its not safe and the medical people… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  abprosper
3 years ago

What is interesting is few Black Hispanic or Whites are willing to take the vaccine.
when you’re dependent on welfare you don’t get a choice

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

They always have a choice. Riots work.
FWIW I’m seeing alot of the vaccine is safe agitprop on YouTube which tell me few people trust this which is a good think and is going to make 2021 more interesting than it already is. Ugh.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

I believe the chief reason is that people fear the notion that the Power Structure cannot be trusted.

I think this is pretty accurate, after all, being paranoid and not trusting most authority figures is tiring and frustrating. It does actually take a lot of mental energy to be skeptical about stuff. It’s hard.

jimmy
jimmy
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Stockholm syndrome
Stockholm syndrome is a condition in which hostages develop a psychological alliance with their captors during captivity. Emotional bonds may be formed between captors and captives, during intimate time together, but these are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims.Wikipedia

Severian
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Exactly right. It’s fascinating now, seeing those old shows from the 1990s like the X-Files. Back then, we thought they represented a popular fear of a too-powerful government. From 2020 they look like wish fulfillment fantasies – we can only dream of a government competent enough to hide space aliens. Nowadays they can’t even plausibly rig an election, or even not get caught flagrantly breaking their own stupid mask rules.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

I know. And the novel “1984” was supposed to be cautionary tale not an instruction manual

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

I remember being taught the book in high school in the early 80’s. It was probably predictive programming.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

A twit like Eric Swalwell isn’t even competent enough to play hide-the-salami. With a whore.

Severian
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

To be fair to Honey Pot, I think she’s got the wrong equipment for “me love you long time” to work on Swalwell. Dude looks gayer than a tangerine in jean shorts to me.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

“They want desperately to believe the present is just like the old days when one could, more or less, trust what the government, media and medical establishment said.” When exactly was this? If the media was ever trustworthy, it was at least a hundred years ago and probably a lot longer. Remember the Western press covered up all the crimes in the early days of the Soviet Union. We are just lucky enough to be living during a time that the public is losing the trust we never should have had in them in the first place. They have always… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

No way in hell the media was as mendacious as it is now.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Believing in the Coof is partly a grasp at some sort of normalcy, and of continuing to want to depend on leadership as being good and competent. But there is a peer element to it as well. If one’s peers are all up in the Coof thing, then joining in the Coof party is just really easy to do. People always under estimate two things. One is the power of joining their crowd of peers, and two is how important it is to keep up with the Joneses.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Why a retired computer executive thinks he is an expert on pandemics is a mystery, but a bigger mystery is why he thinks the world at large trusts his judgement and advice on this issue

Gates most probably just relishes bossing people about. With all that cash and all that clout, he could attempt to remake the world in his vision. Perhaps as a way to get revenge for all the times he was stuff into lockers at high school. Popular psychology of course, but probably on the money.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

You had some nice rhyming going on to start!

introduce the word “lout” and we got ourselves a decent little ditty 😁

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Popular psychology is “popular” because it often expresses what is known and requires no explanation, so yes, there is almost certainly a component of the stuffee’s personality that is resentful and vindictive. They didn’t call it “revenge of the nerds” for nothing. The USA now has an entire bureaucratic, media and academic class composed nearly exclusively of nerds, male and female both. When forced to deal with them personally, one must be careful not to remind them that outside the building, their nerd status will reassert itself and their repressed shame will come to the fore once more. On the… Read more »

Gunner Q
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Gates has an inferiority complex paired with too much money. He has the power to make the world obey and the insecurity to need to prove it… constantly.

If the Proud Boys walked into his mansion and gave him a swirly in his own, gold-plated toilet, he’d probably go insane.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
3 years ago

In a way, it’s a relief to have the hysterics and shrieking of Orange Man Bad in the rear view mirror. Now we get to watch Biden/Kamala and CNN and the rest of the idiots in the media deal with the coming housing bubble bursting and the economic mess from the pandemic, along with the increasing amount of pissed off normies shaken into reality dealing with the coming antiwhite policies.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

All current events bad news is blamed on the previous President, all current good news is explained by the current President. Doubly so with a Democrat in office.

With the US press corps, it has always been thus. Worse now as the press is monolithic and journalism is dead.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

Yeah, it’s hard to imagine joe and da ho getting the blame for anything bad that happens under their watch. He could nuke Iran and it’d be Trump’s fault one way or another.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

Watching the news of any sort is brain poison and should be avoided at all costs. And that’s not escapism or avoidance; it’s mental health preservation. The “news” will only make you angry and confused. It’s debilitating, not educating. Your goal now is to get stronger and smarter, not stupider with ulcers.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

Don’t underestimate the fireworks that are going to ensue within the Democrats themselves. In curious contrast to Trump when he came in as an outsider who was co-opted by the establishment swamp, Biden is career swamp and so to speak he made a deal with the Devil with the progressive Radical Democrats who may not be easily placated

sentry
sentry
3 years ago

“What happens when those mortgage forbearance plans expire? Delinquency rates remain at levels you see in a severe economic crisis. How about those late rent payments?  Those problems are not getting better with jobless claims going up.”
unfixable, you need to get rid of non whites to resolve these issues, which won’t happen.
what will happen is us turns into brazil, europe turns into middle east.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

I imagine all these rent/mortgage forebearance proclamations will be extended, of course causing more landlords to go under. The fed will just keep throwing $$ at the mess until it all implodes, which should happen soon enough. Real change will start happening then and the cloud people ain’t gonna like it.

Durendal
Durendal
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

The financial collapse looming will happen slowly then all at once.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

Always does

Why we need to implore people on our side to hunker down, get their finances in order, bat the hatches, and be ready to weather the coming storm

Wasting time and energy on GOP politics won’t save them for what’s coming

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ABCer
ABCer
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

True, but _____ happens slow then all at once.
You can fill in the blanks for everything since 1989.!

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

The rental thing is Chinese-proverb “interesting”, as it has the potential to turn every urban area into Detroit: if the landlords go belly up, all their properties will become unmaintained slums. Perversly, I bet Section 8 housing keeps booming, as the gibs get paid even when the working man is living in his car. Our cities will be no-go zones that make Fallujah look like Mayberry.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

YTs will immediately be evicted en masse.

BIPOCs get to squat forever.

Cornell’s new flu jab policy is paving the way for this.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Good God.

In Ireland, the Irish native-born are “sleeping rough” (homeless) while Africans fresh off the NGO passenger boat are given fully-appointed apartments and houses.

The vax… the vax will be the excuse.

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TomA
TomA
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

The only White Pill to be gleaned from current events is that the crash and burn catharsis will now happen sooner rather the later, which means the bottom will be higher and less damage will be done on the way down.

ABCer
ABCer
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Our ruin isn’t a bug, it is the core feature around which all the other features are utterly contingent, such as elite survival, along with power, money, perks.

They’re fighting for our lives.
They know they’re in a battle for survival, we just noticed our vote doesn’t count.

But yet our people are moving so matters are greatly improved.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  ABCer
3 years ago

Our ruin isn’t a bug, it is the core feature around which all the other features are utterly contingent, such as elite survival, along with power, money, perks. i wouldn’t count on that, israelites have prospered in middle eastern countries before, they especially love it when miscegenation takes place, it weakens the host country, which results in secular jews returning to their rabbis. Also, south americans aren’t a real threat to them. israelites usually offer gifts and promise riches to rulers in exchange for tax collection rights, not to mention israelites can also sell white slaves to whoever offers them… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

This is an interesting blog with a lively comment section I’ve been reading off and on since before the last housing bubble popped. These guys predicted it then, and they’re now saying disaster is near. http://housingbubble.blog/

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 years ago

i think it was september last year when I first became informed of a new economic crisis starting at the end of this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB8dfg4iSII

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Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Really? I read on zerohedge that the collapse happened in May 2020. Also November 2019, and July 2019, October 2018, etc. I’ll believe it when I see it.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

that was not my prediction, don’t want economic collapse to happen, it’s not as if globalists will go away if they ruin economy.
truth be told soviets were just fine after they starved the ukrainians to death, globalists won’t be removed if economic collapse happens.

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Maixiu
Maixiu
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

It reminds me of Gordon Chang, who has enriched himself for a couple decades on predicting the collapse of the CCP. He still gets trotted out as the stock China detractor on cable news.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

I’m at a point where I just assume everything is some kind of op.

All the way down.

B125
B125
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Same.

If I can’t see it with my 2 eyes then I assume it’s false. And I’m high iq lol. Not a great sign for the state of the empire.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Why having pets is a key to retaining one’s sanity

All of our human drama means little to them as they just keep being cute and hungry and help me, at least, keep perspective

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

You’re not wrong, in a way. There are just so many grifters in key positions these days, each working his own angle that you can be damn sure you won’t benefit. Every day I see this in the micro-realm: dealing with project managers who just blow hot air, needless HR paper shufflers, overly unionized workers. And this is in my industry. There is no reason to think this doesn’t carry over to The Pentagon, The FBI, SIS, GCHQ, Washington or wherever you fancy. It may not be an ‘op’ but it sure as hell isn’t working for our benefit. But… Read more »

Guest
Guest
3 years ago

I’m far more tolerant of conservative civnats than most people here, but Kurt Schlicter’s column today is beyond insufferable. The tldr is: get used to Biden; secession is bad; conservatives need to “get fighting for the Constitution, using its provisions twice as hard” (that’s a direct quote); buy my books.

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2020/12/14/could-secession-succeed-n2581466?

The good news is that these guys are not fooling people anymore. Approximately 50% of the comments are calling him out as a fool.

Millions of Americans are putting their toes in the water.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Guest
3 years ago

Cuckservatism is dead as a dodo, to use another bird reference. Buffoons such as Schlicter think if they Ghost Dance really, really hard, the police state will disappear and we’ll be run by regular James Madisons. The fucking idiot probably will support Biden’s regularly planned wars for our Greatest Ally. The jackass will learn in short order how much people have grown to hate the New Evil Empire.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Guest
3 years ago

This election was a the world’s biggest red-pill event.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Guest
3 years ago

Kurt is comfortable and while he Right Wing enough to mouth off, no way is he going to rock the gravy boat.
Until proven otherwise, all hat no cattle.
To be more generous he’s seen urban warfare and knows how bad it can get so I can’t entirely blame him.

TomA
TomA
3 years ago

The sane are deeply and justifiably angry, so go out into the woods and scream for a while to vent. Then calm down and get to work. Your job now is to survive the madness. If you live in a city, move to a rural area or small town. Learn to be self sufficient as much as practicable. Become innocuous and invisible by appearing boring and predictable in routines. Inside your mind, become hyper-aware and think creativity. Become fit and able and play out potential scenarios in your head. Think of yourself as an antibody in waiting.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Computer and electronics in general are making people crazy

Walk into a Best Buy with all of that competing electricity and you can feel the brain begin to soften

Staring at a computer all day with electricity being jammed back into your brain can’t be good

Getting oneself back to nature is a definite solution to the madness

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

The whole country has gone mad. It seams everyone is delusion sally detached from reality. Perhaps that’s the real legacy of the information revolution, everyone lives in their own virtual reality – shaped by their imagination regardless of reality. Not sure how well it will work when people’s personal VR bubbles intersect.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

It’s funny to come across this comment as more and more I’ve been wondering if there’s something to the idea of solipsism. But that’s most likely just the side effect of being gaslit 24/7.

DVDC
DVDC
Reply to  Peabody
3 years ago

See Neal Stephenson’s “Fall: or Dodge in Hell” for a novel take on this.

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
3 years ago

The cloud people luxuriating in the atmosphere inside their Overton bubble haven’t noticed the bees from the hive below skating on their rainbows.

A spoonful of sugar helps the anarchy go down.

Severian
3 years ago

Dear Penthouse: I never thought this would happen to me, but I kinda miss the Clinton years. Give me a grifter over a cultist every time. When Billy lied to you, at least you knew he was getting something out of it (if only the weird sexual thrill he obviously got from knowing that you knew he was lying). The Media, meanwhile, were straight up about lying for the Cause – cf. that bint who proclaimed on national tv that she’d be happy to service Clinton “for keeping abortion legal.” Media people these days are Red Guards — they really… Read more »

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Shadow of the torturer?

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Severian
Reply to  Lanky
3 years ago

Yeah, but I needed an internet handle decades ago and that was the first book I saw on my shelf. No deep significance, except that I was dumb enough to do a sci-fi thing on the Internet without thinking through the implications. Tells you everything you need to know about my judgment.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Lanky
3 years ago

(Shhh. Yes, and he regrets it.

The analeptic alzabo thinks it’s an excellent choice. The beast believes our esteemed adept would prove most creative in his approach to managing aristocratic clients.)

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Meh. The Clintons were more than mere grifters; they were pretty damn insidious when you get down to it.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Sociopaths

Severian
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

All true, but at least they weren’t insane. Either one of them would’ve outlawed abortion in a hot second if you paid them enough. A lot of these lunatics these days are True Believers. To paraphrase Chesteron, or CS Lewis, or whoever it was – there’s always a chance you can buy off a grifter or a gangster, but you can never be free of a True Believer (well, there’s ONE way…)

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
-C.S. Lewis

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

I think of this every time I see that gigantic hoss “health minister” from Belgium.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

If not psychopaths.

ABCer
ABCer
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Reinventing govt gave us govt by contracting. Bill realized Bioleninists couldn’t get any services delivered, so our actual govt services are long contracted out. This created the actual Toll House Super Zips Corporatist shadow govt which is what we are facing. You may add to the precious benefits – war logistics, wars dirty work, Intelligence SIGINT and HUMINT. Surely you can’t see Evan mcMullian in a gunfight, for instance? Bill also let his crew be the money launderers for the Rape of Russia, and we see same characters usually small hats in the various Ukraine Dramas. This also is where… Read more »

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Clinton was a likable guy from Arkansas.
He got his kicks in Hot Springs whore houses as a kid.
A good ole boy that was nice to your face but would screw you in a New York second. He opposed LBJ but Clinton was a lot like him.
Now we just got aliens ruling us who make no effort to cover up their corruption.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

When BillyJeff was Gov he turned a blind eye to the Iran-Contra drugs/arms smuggling operation out of Mena, AK. (He later called GHWB “Dad.”)

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
3 years ago

In Re: QAnon. I’ve never seen a clearer real life case study of the book “When Prophecy Fails” -L Festinger than otherwise sane conservatives “Trusting the Plan” and “The Storm is Coming”. It’s literally crazy.

Also: Increasingly obvious people “listen” to Gates because he’s RICH (and generous), not because he’s SMART. He is smart (in a narrow area), but who wouldn’t “listen” to a intellectual gadfly who also is willing to write huge checks to your organization if properly flattered?

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

Back in the 1980s and 1990s, Gates fought both Washington and the media because he felt like everyone should stay out of his business. Therefore, he was disliked by Washington and the media.

But then Gates discovered that showering both groups with money via charities, political donations, jobs, speaking fees, etc., made you wildly popular. It also allowed you a power and influence well beyond the computer industry.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

No worries. After Gates’ time has come, his legacy will be felt in the form of mandatory, poorly timed updates to your Windows OS. The man truly is evil.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Not a Windows 10 user, are you? Don’t blame you. Balmer gets a lot of flack for his time at the helm, but damn did things really obviously go downhill after he left.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

My day consists of booting up Windows 10. Then SSH ‘ing into Linux VMs. But of course, all companies love MS, so we have to put up with their stuff. Didn’t mind the Office suite though, back when I used to be a VBA whizz. Nifty tool set. Now it’s mega bloat.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Every single time Microsoft updates its OS (also Office) it’s a major headache and loss of productivity for Businesses that use the software.

ABCer
ABCer
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

Gates has been funding research into Viruses including in Wuhan for years. That explains his panic, his fear is palpably true.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Latest op:

Sky Australia reporting a leak of a database with info on 2 million CCP members:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6215946537001

Supposedly there are anywhere from 52k to 380k US phone numbers in the list.

Researchers have already ID’d people in Big Pharma and the UK govt.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

“Discrimination against political views and race is illegal”…said 99% of Americans who know nothing about CCP membership.

I’ll give this to the CCP…when they rule the world (if they don’t already), it’s going to be because they earned it. 2 million plants worldwide!

I doubt the US has more than a couple thousand fluent US loyalist Chinese speakers on the payroll.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

The unexplored point is that it would be easy to use fluent Mandarin speakers to fool the Chinese. No Chinese ever expects a waiguoren to speak their tongue. I speak decent Chinese and the reactions I get are almost comical. Once during open swim at the local college, two Chinese students had to use the lanes on either side of me. As I was taking a break, they were talking loudly over my head. I turned to one and asked her in Chinese if she’d like to change lanes. She then shouted to her friend, as if I wasn’t there… Read more »

ABCer
ABCer
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

It is not the fault of China we elected cowards and traitors.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  ABCer
3 years ago

I’m not remotely angry at China for doing what is in their best interest.
Its our greedy treasonous elite that deserve our hate not Chinese who are behaving in a patriotic manner to their own nation.
They all need to be sent back buts just business nothing personal.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

Its already out in English if you want it. There are around 56K American members on the list apparently.

Dindu Nuffin State
Dindu Nuffin State
Reply to  abprosper
3 years ago

Where is the English list?
The first one was in Mandarin.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Dindu Nuffin State
3 years ago

I apologize as it seems I was in error. the list of US nationals hasn’t been translated as yet or isn’t out.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  abprosper
3 years ago

I do wonder if US Fortune 500 companies will even look at the list and do a little double checking against their hiring roles.

Probably not. The biggest companies in the US are by far the most “woke”.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

This creates liability also so probably not.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

and none of us on this side of the divide are at all surprised

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

A small town in Wyoming sheriff arrested an anti-mask protester for creating a verbal disturbance by telling the mayor to, “eff off”:

https://wyo4news.com/news/one-arrested-for-verbal-disturbance-during-protest-against-the-mask-mandate/

RIP First Amendment, RIP Bill of Rights.

Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

It is yet further evidence that, writ large, cops are not your friends.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

And yet, here in SoCal, multiple local small business communities are staying open and nothing is being done to them. The lesson is, cooperation and unity of purpose within a community is a force multiplier.

Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  Dutch
3 years ago

What was done for those SoCal small businesses that were the targets of the burners, looters, and murderers?

How about the SoCal restaurants that choose to fully open?

How about those SoCal movie theatres that choose to run films on all 18 screens and declare its patrons need not don a face-diaper?

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Liberty Mike
3 years ago

Liberty Mike, it’s a real mixed bag. The only thing that has worked so far (in Carlsbad, Oceanside, and Temecula), is that an entire neighborhood small business community decides to stay open. Emphasis on “so far”. The random restaurant or gym, the authorities take them down. I’ll be checking out Chula Vista in person tomorrow. I’m hearing rumors that everything is quietly open down there, too.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Small town Wyoming – so much for a “red state” being refuge from the insanity.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

The Hogan video is pretty funny. Quite the word salad with lots diversity thrown in for good measure. I forget how clueless these people are. If he (and his handlers) think that message is going to work going forward, I suspect that they’re in for a nasty surprise.

Boycotting people like Hogan would be a very effective tool. The GOP needs to die to help wake up CivNat Whites. They’ll see that no matter how badly the GOP does in elections, it won’t acknowledge them or take up their issues.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Notice the Hogan video has comments disabled. Worse, it has the thumbs up/down ratio disabled. Kind of says it all. If anything, the video will have the opposite of the intended effect.
Sounds like another grifter Lincoln Project-esque organization burning dumb millionaires money.
Good.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

When comments are disabled on a site that hasn’t blanket-eliminated them, you know they were going against the preferred narrative.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Hogan thinks that, because he managed to win as a Republican in Maryland, his career arc is a viable template for the future. See, Reagan won 49 states, so…

Everyone is working on a fantasy these days. The only people telling the truth are those who point out nobody is coming to save you. And half the people who post those memes don’t really believe in, either.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Why a retired computer executive thinks he is an expert on pandemics is a mystery, but a bigger mystery is why he thinks the world at large trusts his judgement and advice on this issue. Madame Ceausescu claimed to be a doctor, as does Jill Biden. The former was illiterate, and the latter doesn’t seem ready to attend a MENSA meeting in any capacity other as an invited celebrity guest speaker. Gates would do well to recall the fate of Madame Ceausescu as he cozies up to Dr. Biden. Dr. Ceausescu had much more power and protection than Gates ever… Read more »

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

There’s no mystery. Get out of the dissident-right bubble and the sad fact is most people don’t see grandfatherly Bill Gates and “Dr.” Jill Biden as being bad people. Same for Fauci. Those on this side of the great divide are cursed with hateful cynicism and most people just want to goddamn grill.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

Mask up, vax up!

Marko
Marko
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

#vaxtheblacks

Wackadoo
Wackadoo
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

That’s a great one!

c matt
c matt
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Pull a Brad Pitt and refuse to vax until every POC and “front-line” worker in the world has had the full complement of boosters. Yes, I am that selfless you bastards!

Member
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

I’m willing to let each fat dancing nurse have three doses each. You know, they have that extra body mass so they probably need a higher dose.

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

Wait until they blame their infertility on the vaccine instead of their lifestyle. The rants will be endless.

Angarrack
Angarrack
Reply to  Marko
3 years ago

Aren’t these people pushed forward by a sytem which destroys you if you speak outside a narrow corridor of talking points? The average person is aware of this and I doubt they have any great affection for the people who are associated with this arrangement. I think you underestimate the sheer amount of effort that the average person expends editing themselves to conform to the pack. Normal people are extremely cynical in that they have no values other than repeat the majority view and don’t be incorrectly conspicuous. Fear and dishonesty maintain the status quo. The “romantics” are the dissidents… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

“…there likely will be a catastrophic collapse after the forbearance on federally backed mortgages ends January 1, 2022.”

I don’t know what ‘forbearance’ is, could somebody briefly explain what this means, or means to us, please? What’ll happen?

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

forbearance = don’t have to pay your mortgage

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

But the interest payments still accrue. Must look after the poor banks, you see.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

no doubt, it’s not like the payments go away, just moved to a later date

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

I take it you don’t have student loans or you consolidated them 🙂

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

The fate of the Ceausescus, as in they were all shot? LOL, get that thought out of your head, that’s just pure comeuppance delusional fantasy. Won’t happen. The Gates’ of the world today simply don’t exist in the realms of existence where anyone who has ready access to them will harm them, let alone any of common stock. In fact, given today’s conditions, be careful throwing around such flippancy.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

Gates and his ilk have extremely well-paid, extremely comptent 24/7/365 Security teams.

Heck, I bet the lowest paid guys on Gates’ team are worth 7 figures.

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Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

All of his security are ex-Special Ops and alphabet agency traitors who took their 30 pieces of silver to sell out the United States and the CivNats that worship them as heroes.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Judge Smails
3 years ago

No one should worship these professional killers because like attack dogs they can be turned against us and have been – like at Waco and NOLA where they confiscated guns from gun owners at gun point.

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

The fate of the Ceausescus, as in they were all shot? The Gates’ of the world today simply don’t exist in the realms of existence where anyone who has ready access to them will harm them, let alone any of common stock.

The same was true for Ceaușescu until it wasn’t.

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B125
B125
Reply to  Federalist
3 years ago

What happens when that 7 figure salary becomes just a stack of paper and a can of beans is a valuable commodity?

Sand Wasp
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

What happens when that 7 figure salary becomes just a stack of paper and a can of beans is a valuable commodity?

That is a cope, our rulers aren’t dumb. The mercenaries will always be taken care of.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Federalist
3 years ago

The same was true for Ceaușescu until it wasn’t.
you mean the foreign funded revolution?
are the israelites gonna organize revolution against themselves?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Federalist
3 years ago

You beat me to it. Gates doesn’t have near the protection the Ceausescu’s did.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

Anyone can be gotten to if one is willing to devote the resources to it.For the longest time Gates flew first class on common carriers. Because outside of the tech world he is a non-entity to everyone else.
He even did his own shopping at the local store as well.
Even if he now protected by a bunch of juiced up goons like Zucky has. They only work in a stable intact society.where folks aren’t actively gunning for ya.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

Karl Denninger pointed this out: only a national government has the money and resources necessary for a presidential level protection. Everyone else’s security detail is some level of compromise that depends on operating within an intact society.

Vizzini
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

Even the President is completely vulnerable. All it takes is a willingness to die along with him.

Sand Wasp
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

Yeah, I remember when someone used a telephoto lens to photograph Zuckerberg picking up his own dogs crap in an outdoor stroll.

If instead of a telephoto lens fixed on Zuck, it was a scope….

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

The day before the Ceacescus achieved room temperature, they were convinced they also were untouchable. They also had more reason. It came from inside, too. It always comes from inside.

The only fantasy is invincibility.

Vizzini
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

Everyone is vulnerable. Everyone.

Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Consumer demand is likely to suffer huge blows soon as government aid for mortgages and student loans ends and the economy remains crippled by rolling lockdowns and just the fear of political instability. What demand remains may be funneled into, shall we say, “unusual” avenues. Thinking of getting that 84″ 4K TV back in March? Now it’s likely to be an AR-15 and a cache of emergency supplies. This is a setup for classic deflation and depression.

Lanky
Lanky
3 years ago

Start passing out pamphlets that address specific chinks (()) in the globalist armor. The vaccine is a good place to start. Even the news networks can’t spin injecting this gene-altering, rabbinical precum as a prudent health decision — let alone with exactly zero longitudinal studies. Start there. “I’m not anti-vax, but clearly this is something different. Just because they’re not forcing us to take it today doesn’t mean they won’t try to force us to tomorrow. When that day comes, it’d be best if we all knew each other and had a plan.”

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KGB
KGB
Reply to  Lanky
3 years ago

I just started working the Post-It note angle this past weekend. I printed out a sheet of 5160 sized stickers, each one with a short saying, and put them on Post-Its, which I have begun leaving on items in large stores. “It’s OK to be white”, “Masks are juju”, “Happy Xmas (Covid Is Over)” and others.

I definitely need to add some vaccine-skeptical phrases. If anyone here has any suggestions, on any topics, please let me know.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Well that’s kind of genius. Be careful to not be seen.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

Z-Man mentioned he had a friend who did this, that’s where I got the idea. So I keep the note pad in my coat pocket. I peel one off with my hand inside the pocket and palm it with the sticky side facing out. Then I grab an item from the shelf, pretend to read it while casually pressing the note against the back side, before returning it to the shelf. I try to put it behind one or two of the same item so that it won’t sell for a few days/weeks. I also tried to pick items that… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Windows crashes, but trust the vax

KGB
KGB
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

That will make the cut. I was also thinking something like “The vaccine makes you a GMO” That should cause some short circuiting.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

The vax.
Just the vax, mam

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Wow, thanks. Johnny Appleseed!

Rich
Member
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

“What happened to Brandy Vaughan?”

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Lanky
3 years ago

I was just in a gift shop/stationary store/costume rental place. As I was looking around I noticed there were Kwanzaa cards in the card aisle. I had an “It’s OK to be white” sticker next in the deck and I thought it was tailor made for the Jogger Christmas, but then I had a moment of inspiration and I attached it to a Hanukkah card instead!

Barnard
Barnard
3 years ago

Why a retired computer executive thinks he is an expert on pandemics is a mystery, but a bigger mystery is why he thinks the world at large trusts his judgement and advice on this issue. It isn’t uncommon for men who have great success in one area to think they are experts in everything. Gates is far from alone among his peers in that regard. They also trust each other as experts regardless of what the results are as long as it makes them feel good. Jeffrey Sachs is considered one of the most influential economists in the world, Gates… Read more »

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

Being surrounded with slobbering sycophants hoping to catch a few crumbs from the billionaires table helps too.

Severian
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

Also true of anyone who fancies xzhyrzelf a professional intellectual. I spent umpteen years in the ivory tower, and even with all that experience it never ceased to amaze me how the most clueless people carried on. What should our defense posture be in re: fishing rights off the Saskatchewan Reefs? They have never heard of any of those things, but they are metaphysically certain they’re right about whatever they just made up. And the further the “expert” got from a right answer discipline, the more vehemently certain xzhey got. There are no more puissant armchair generals than people who… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

“There are no more puissant armchair generals than people who wrote their dissertation on the gendering of adverbs in the Maori-American Poetry of the Later Middle Ages.”

LOL. So very true. And as regards Maori-American poetry of the late middle ages, my personal favorite is “Troilus and the Lexus” by Chinuwi Romney-Dole.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

Wasn’t Gates’ dad associated with the CIA? Or was he the lawyer for the Rothschild? When Gates was 19, the board of IBM called him to a meeting so he could do a presentation of MS-DOS or Basic (caveat, my memory’s a tad fuzzy.) He had bought DOS/Basic from a college roomate for $70,000. The industry standard was a language called CPM. The guy who invented it decided to go windsurfing instead of making his pitch to keep CPM at the board meet; IBM adopted DOS, and 19 year-old Gates went on to become the richest man in the world.… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by Alzaebo
WJ0216
WJ0216
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

It didn’t hurt Gates that his well connected mother served on the Board of United Way of America with the CEO of IBM.

Gunner Q
Reply to  WJ0216
3 years ago

Coincidence like that make one wonder about that “windsurfing trip”.

Vizzini
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

CP/M. Operating system, not language. They were, initially, very similar. I suspect MS-DOS ripped off a lot of concepts from CP/M.

I don’t know if the surfing story is true, but indeed whether to go with one OS or the other was pretty much a toss-up, and fortunes were made and lost on that little decision.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

Also Microsoft licensed its OS, Apple didn’t. Thus the PC took off (especially in terms of 3rd-party software development) while the Mac remained “niche.”

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

Woops, sorry, I should’ve put “go windsurfing” in quotes. I meant to supply a quality conspiracy theory.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

See James’ Corbett’s excellent series on Gates. More than you thought was knowable.

https://www.corbettreport.com/gates/

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

The prime example of this mindset is one even normie can understand and I have used to some effect. Consider the meddling sportsball owner. He made a billion doing xyz, but his ego doesn’t allow him to not override the decisions of his underlings who have dedicated their lives to assembling effective teams, thereby ensuring mediocrity at best and likely consistent failure at worse. Gates track record in various disciplines (I am not an expert on him I admit) lead me to believe he is just another guy like this. The only difference is instead of sportsball its immune systems… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by Valley Lurker
Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

Lebron James is often consulted on matters of great geopolitical import, wot.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

‘bron did read a book one time (or at least he said he did)

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

“See Ja’Spott Dunk”

bruce charlton
bruce charlton
3 years ago

“it really does not matter what anyone thinks,”

In fact the opposite is true. This is a spiritual war: the stakes are damnation with the majority who follow Satan; or to stand apart as an individual (in 2020 the churches are with the majority) and joyfully accept the salvation offered by Jesus. So, the *only* thing that matters – in the long run, which for Christians) is eternity – is “what people think”.