Doctor Stupid

There is an old line about how some things are so stupid that only educated people are willing to believe them. Sometimes it is phrased as the smartest are the ones who believe the dumbest things. It is one of those aphorisms that is often used to dismiss arguments or ideas that are unpleasant. Most clichés and sayings are conversation enders, not conversation starters. On the other hand, there is a kernel of truth here and you see it in this gem from a Dr. Rachel Pope.

As we know from the great Doctor Jill Biden, there are a lot of very stupid people walking around with the label “doctor” in their profile. Another good rule is that when confronted by someone insisting you call her doctor or she puts that title in her social media profile, you are most likely dealing with a stupid person. It is not always the case, as there are smart jerks in the world too, but people who wave around their titles like this tend to be narrowminded and remarkably insecure.

In this case, it appears to be warranted. The claim that there is no genetic basis for skin color is laughably ridiculous. There is a genetic basis for all observable human characteristics like skin color and eye color. That is why we have no cases of two Irish parents giving birth to a Chinese baby. Children look like the people who made them, because they inherit the genes of the people who made them. Things like skin color, eye color, facial features and so on are all genetic.

This is not complicated stuff. Five minutes on a search engine gets you hundreds of studies explaining what is basic high school biology. If Dr. Rachel Pope is so haunted by multicultural taboos that she cannot bear to think of race differences, she could find studies like this one that examine the genetic basis of African skin color. You see, all of the gene combinations for skin color were present in humans from the start, so she could claim that skin color is a genetic response to environment.

If that first tweet was not embarrassing enough, she follows on with a truly deranged claim that there are no indigenous people in Britain. By her definition, there are no indigenous people anywhere. Humans did not spring from the soil by magic and they did not stay in one range. The story of humans starts with populating every nook and cranny of the planet. When people with an IQ about room temperature say “indigenous people” they mean those who settle a place first.

Of course, where Dr. Rachel Pope and her coreligionists in the denialist cult reveal the depth of their stupidity is when they insist race is skin color. The only people who insist this are the people in the science deniers cult. People familiar enough with the human sciences to accept the great diversity of man know that race is a general shorthand for a large basket of measurable human traits. These baskets of traits largely conform to the big geological divides on our home planet.

That last bit may sound awkward, but it is a good way of understanding how it is we have so much diversity in the human animal. If one hundred thousand years ago a group of aliens scooped up a few thousand humans and transported them to another planet, those humans would have adapted to their new world. They would no doubt have evolved unique characteristics because their world required it. No one would pretend that they are not different from earthlings.

It turns out that humans are the product of mating decisions made by their ancestors going back a very long time. Evolution worked on humans just as it does on everything else on the planet. When people migrated to a new environment, they quickly began to adapt to that new environment. The reason Africans have a genetic defense to malaria, but Scandinavians do not, is malaria is not present in the north. Thousands of generations of adaptation are why we have so much human diversity.

What makes this strain of stupidity carried by Dr. Rachel jaw-dropping is the people afflicted with it never shut up about diversity. From the comfort of their whites-only enclaves, they harangue the rest of us about diversity. The term “white privilege” has become a passphrase for these people. Yet, if race is not real, then white is not a logical construct, as it assumes race is real. Similarly, diversity cannot exist if there is no genetic basis for the human differences, we call race and ethnicity.

This brings us back to the beginning. The denialist is always someone who is educated, but also strangely stupid about the obvious. They tend to have inflated credentials in fields that are not particularly taxing. Archeology is a little better than education or psychology, but it is not a STEM field. There is a sense that their credentialism is a defense mechanism rather than a trophy case. That is also why they fall for every nutty fad popular with the modern intelligentsia.

Biological denialism, the refusal to accept the observable and measurable differences in humans, may be the ultimate expression of the aphorism at the start of this post. It is an idea so stupid that only pseudo-intellectual poseurs believe it. It signals to the rest that the person believing it is willing to accept on faith whatever nonsense is running through that particular subculture at the moment. It is an act of submission, showing that the person will never question the tenets of the subculture.

That is an important aspect of the modern intelligentsia. Membership is not just about holding the right beliefs. Those are important, but they change quickly, so what is most important is the willingness to accept the most absurd beliefs. The man who starts wearing a dress, claiming he believes he is a woman must be met by his fellows with absolute acceptance. That is the point of the pronoun stuff. When you address the guy in the sundress as “them” you are a true believer.


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SamlAdams
SamlAdams
3 years ago

This is simply what has filled the void left by abandonment of religion. But with the hubris that all things can be explained by their theories rather than leaving some things as mysteries we cannot explain. Yet, as you demonstrate, virtually every “explanation” is a circular torpedo run.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

This is simply what has filled the void left by abandonment of religion.
wrong, this curse has plagued old school evangelicals as well, many have tried to convert native americans(who were constantly murdering europeans) into God fearing christians. A few centuries later native americans still aren’t christians and they live segregated from other americans.
Israelites simply took the anglican missionary spirit and channeled it towards inviting all sorts of non whites into their countries and granting them citizenry. It has nothing to do with italians or irish who are blamed for ruining america’s values and all that crap.

Last edited 3 years ago by sentry
SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

I think you missed the point. I’m not particularly religious, but understand there are always x-factors that will always be beyond my ability to comprehend. Make a living in a business where we use enormously complex modeling to quantify events–and despite having some Fields Medal quality quants, we’re still often badly wrong. Leftists live in world of utter certainty and no doubt.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

Yes, science is a process and not a destination. Ongoing experiment and analysis can produce nuggets of increasingly accurate insight (which we call knowledge), but never a final determination of “truth.” Asserting otherwise is a denial of reality. And in a health ecosystem, denial of reality gets you dead, not a Nobel Prize.

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

I was just talking about this With a friend. Why did some races not convert? American Indians, subcontinent Indians, Africans, Chinese. Very tough to convert them. Although, the conflicts within protestantism is kind of a problem with evangelizing, and for the above, I was speaking more of Catholicism. But the White race has been given abundant supernatural graces and that shows with the conversion issue….

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

There are (were) a fair number of Christians in Africa, but the muslim ones keep killing them.

B125
B125
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

Idk, there are hundreds of millions (if not billions) of christians in africa. 40 million in india, millions in china too. African americans as well as latin americans are highly religious, mostly catholic.

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Yes, perhaps, but I never really think of Africa as Catholic or even Christian. And the new Vatican II “Catholicism” is hardly anything to write home about…

Did protestants try to evangelize anywhere? Its only been in the last 30 years that Protestants have talking about giving Africa Bibles. Which is kinda funny…

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

there’s christians, muslims and gays in africa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q4O5ztz92o

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Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

And that’s just Obama! Dah-dum.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

Protestants have been evangelizing all over the world for hundreds of years.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

The Presbyterians over the last 150 years spent a lot of time and money trying to convert the Koreans in particular. Something like 1/3 of NorKo political prisoners are Presb. evangelists.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

They’ve been very successful too. I think roughly 1/3 of Koreans are Christian. At night in Seoul, you can see red neon crosses on top of lots of buildings.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

There are nearly 300 million Christians in China. Most of them very courageous members of underground churches.

david
david
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

There are about 100 million latino catholics in latin america who are about 50% indigenous.

I think jared taylor interviewed someone who mentioned that europeans just had a higher spatial imagination. It could be the religion that we evolved to be attracted to the most.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Israelites simply took the anglican missionary spirit and channeled it towards inviting all sorts of non whites into their countries and granting them citizenry.

Their countries? No, their attitude toward immigration is much different in their country.

Valley Lurker
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

I’ll agree in the sense, of course the generations of Italians and Irish are the least of our worries at this point.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Valley Lurker
3 years ago

Eh. Would New York and Chirac/IL be leading our national train off a cliff without those lovely diverse hordes of low IQ disfunctional, drunkard, antisocial papists?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Both sentry and Saml are correct, because “we” didn’t abandon religion, our elites did, intent on tearing down our temples to rebuild their own on the foundation.

Our culture has become the Welsh knot- one most certainly does Knot get ahead speaking that old dialect. Our elites used to, but no more.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

Another problem with these whack jobs is social media. If the idiots got nothing but ridicule for mouthing these idiocies, they’d shut up fast enough. But there are plenty of co-tards out there who will enthusiastically agree, stroking their fragile egos. A generation ago, this moron probably wouldn’t even be a “doctor”, but if she was, her blatherings would confined to peer related journals that the vast majority would never see or give a shit about.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I lack that gene. It’s why I’ve never been particularly religious.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

But those fads are so much cooler than lame hokum like Jesus and Mary!

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

maybe it’s all hokum.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

You make a very valid point. I would also like to commend you on the topic of this article, as I used to work with a female such as you described above. What an insufferable c%nt! I know, I know, this is a family show, sorry! She fit right into every category you have mentioned in the past: Single WF, over 50 and childless and she took great relish in correcting the men in the office about every little – what she considered errors – in everything. Anyway, she too had the tile of Piled Higher & Deeper and wielded… Read more »

Jacques Lebeau
Member
Reply to  Steve
3 years ago

Great story!

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

And to be fair,, I get the same feeling about evolution and IQ that dissidents use to explain things. I don’t see why it is so impossible to believe that God made the races different, and some better at at some things, some a lot better at a lot of things.

Durendal
Durendal
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

Agreed. God hasn’t dispensed His gifts equally.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

The evidence everywhere and in all things is that God hates equality.

Maus
Maus
Reply to  james wilson
3 years ago

What God appears to hate is losers. You only got one talent and you buried it? Yoink. That goes to the guy who grew five into ten. Explains Africa pretty well, for starters.

Member
Reply to  james wilson
3 years ago

The root word in “equality”, “equity”, and all the other poz euphemisms for communism is also found in “equilibrium”. It is equilibrium that “God” (secular people just say “the universe”) hates. Life is a process of disequilibrium. When your body is finally in equilibrium with the environment you are dead or what we scientificos call “em-Bidened”. Right now billions of neurons in your brain are out of electrical equilibrium with their surroundings. This means there’s a small potential difference across the cell membrane and this is what allows it to fire. Think of it comrades, every cell is a little… Read more »

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  pozymandias
3 years ago

Pocket of inequality!!!

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  james wilson
3 years ago

Something about a tower of Babel…

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  james wilson
3 years ago

And He loves heirarchy

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Durendal
3 years ago

God is no Marxist.

B125
B125
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

Yeah my view is that God did make all the races different, and separate – and there’s nothing wrong with that. Strengths and weaknesses of the collective as well as the individual should be tolerated and allowances be made.

The problem is that most christians also believe in the blank slate stuff. It’s not a new thing, nor only a secular one. Perhaps it’s an anglo-saxon / nordic problem? You don’t really see other white groups with such a zeal for equality.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

The blank slate belief that many Christians hold comports perfectly with their idea of universal salvation. In practice, many Christians believe that being saved will change feral blacks in to law abiding, suburban white people who love the Constitution. In actual practice, you just get voodoo Christianity.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

“May Jesus let Ja’quandius make parole, and get me a lease on a new Escalade.”

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

Word

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

Universal salvation is a heresy

Joe Jach
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

The blank slate belief that many Christians hold comports perfectly with their idea of universal salvation.” What is the ”blank slate belief” you are referring to? Also, as there may be an ”idea of universal salvation” in a handful of denominations, there is no Biblical foundation for that belief.

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

I read the dominican Don Prosper Guernger’’’’s liturgical Year a freind of Pius IX and written in the 19th cent. He frequently talks the gifts of different individuals but even of different races. But the silly blank slate idea has made its way into people self identifying as Christians

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

God did not need to make the races different, all we need is to assume he made an evolving and changing earth for men to live upon. From that would be required that all men adapt (via evolution) or perish.

I don’t have all the answers, but then again I don’t believe in a 6000 year old earth, nor do I believe Belief and evolution are incompatible.

Last edited 3 years ago by Compsci
Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

Sounds like you’re a Deist. Not to be confused with a dentist.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Yes, that would be a better description, but formal training was in Catholicism. Parochial school in those days was a blessing given the diminishing state of public education even then.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Pronunciation is paramount. There is a marked difference between atheist and a theist 🤡 :

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

Well,, you can’t beleive in the inerrancy of scripture an beleive in evolution. 7 days is not 7 1000 year eons. How can there be night and day in a 1000 year eon. Also, evolution in philosophically impossible. Something cant’ come from nothing. An arm is an arm, theres no such thing as a pre-arm. Its an arm or its not.

Arcadian
Arcadian
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

You stole my line, “God made me a smart, good looking white man for His own good reasons. Don’t blame me.”

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  Arcadian
3 years ago

Friend, your sound privileged, even!

Science!
Science!
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

This Rachel might be a superstitious credentialed believer in Science!, but a lot of higher-ups spouting this nonsense are malicious, not religiously superstitious. They are maliciously deconstructing and demoralizing white people to exterminate them. By denying us status as a legitimate people they are laying the groundwork for genocide. This example shows how academia and Science! are working hard to deny us status as a people with rights. Meanwhile, big business and government are working hard to deny us labor and income. Meanwhile, health care is working hard to deny us health care. (Regardless of how necessary the supposed vaccine… Read more »

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Julius Malema
Julius Malema
Reply to  Science!
3 years ago

That Reuters piece is dripping with racial hatred. Laughlin wrote about “used white guys” as if they were little more than obsolete garbage. Interesting how they deleted the original article too.

In Trump’s single term we saw wokeness explode from a Tumblr echo chamber to full-on EFF style racial revenge. In four years we blew way past Brazil to become South Africa- how’s that for accelerationism!

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Julius Malema
3 years ago

by Julius Malema

Hahahaha
Ogun laughs

B125
B125
Reply to  Julius Malema
3 years ago

Things really are speeding up, eh.

I’m seeing alot of depressed looking white guys. It must be hard for normie white males to cope.

On the other hand I’m also seeing alot of pissed off white guys who look ready to fight.

National review will be making the conservative case for white genocide in 2022 at this rate.

Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

If or when white men decide to take the gloves off. Skin will be the uniform sans intel on white neighbors.
To paraphrase uncle A, if white men do not take action they will deserve their fate. Subs will go back to caves.

ABCer
ABCer
Reply to  Julius Malema
3 years ago

Trump- we were winning 3 years, and lost in the 4th by a blowout.

Need a Biter 👹
Not a Barker. 🤠

Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  Julius Malema
3 years ago

Yes and it’s not going to end well.

King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

I think it may also be due to the decline of community and the rise of individualism. Of course, there’s a chicken-and-egg debate to be had about those two.

However, in a society where everyone is just an island unto themselves, then if follows that you free to define yourself and that that choice must be respected. If not respected as such, there is no moral basis on which to reject it.

Hence, if I don a sundress and claim to be woman, who are you to tell me that I am not one?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  King Tut
3 years ago

A wise man once said “No man is an island.” In my lifetime, given my curmudeonly personality, I added to that: “Yes, but I’ve got a damned long, narrow peninsula.”

bako
bako
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

what about the historical abolitionist like Exeter hall? It’s pretty clear to me that most of them were devout Christians & evangelical Christians, and many of them, seemed to be biological denialism. They thought that the brotherly love commandment of Jesus meant that slavery needed to be abolished & blacks given the same status as the whites, even sometimes with violent insurrection (Jamaica, John Brown etc). I’ve been reading more about the civil war. And a look at pro-slavery literature shows that they had to contend with the biological denialism of the abolitionist, and made many points in arguing for… Read more »

Severian
3 years ago

I remember an academic colleague telling me about a book that absolutely *destroys* the “myth” of race, proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that “race is just a social construction.” The author’s very impressive scientific credentials? She was the Something-or-other Professor of Black Women’s History (her actual title) at some cow college.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Darkness-wise I think it’s like we’re at the part in Pitch Black where the solar system’s gravitational resonances stabilize and the tides lock and the eclipse can never end.

No one will remember. Our descendants won’t believe we existed. We’re already idiots compared to our recent ancestors. In a few centuries, maybe only a couple, the last human mind will have the last human thought. It’ll probably be a crime statistic.

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  Hemid
3 years ago

We could also be at the end of the world. Thats right, the world had a beginning and has an end!

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Hemid
3 years ago

Perhaps, but I believe at worse a trimming down of human population. A return to the soil and subsistence living. Followed by a repeat of evolutionary growth in intelligence an ability. And it will be much quicker than to first rise from darkness.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

well if things revert to subsistence living, there will be considerably more than a trimming of the human population.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

For 20 years I dreamed of the Warrens, vast, polluted ruins populated by weird savages.

Now I know why.

But- I also dreamed of the Tunnels- crowded, different, yet still modern… and White. We’ll make it through the bottleneck, the Forge.

We whites have done so before, we are meant to, as the living Hand of the Increate. The rest were simply combinations that didn’t quite make the grade to fulfill the highest function- the transmission layer.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

To go beyond the atmosphere’s constraints, whether Heaven or Mars.

Note thou that only whites created the concept of Heaven, because that is the physical reality. The rest recycle in the purgatorio within the ionosphere or the base substrate of suffering, the hells- and their stories reflect this.

We don’t blame the lungfish, nor the aquatic stay-behinds; yet, the scandalous things they said about each other!

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Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Hemid
3 years ago

“Your $hit’s all retarded and you talk like a f@g.”
Yes, we’ve seen the movie.

Severian
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I’m not saying it’s *strictly* a female thing, because lord knows there are lots of Dr. Stupid, PhDs, among the menfolk, but it pretty strongly correlates. One of my favorite ivory tower stories is: A female colleague –in a STEM field — needed help moving a couch into a new apartment. A buddy and I got over there and spotted the flaw in the plan right away: The couch was a good six inches wider than the doorframe. We pointed this out to Snowflake. We even busted out a tape measure. To no avail – she insisted that it would… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by Severian
Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

OK, enough on women. Here’s a male story exactly the same. Faculty member in dept redesigned/customized his own office furniture. He ordered a Steelcase table top “1 inch wider” than his office (wall to wall). I and a couple of others were asked to help him move it into the office. After a bit of exasperation, I stated “The table is too wide, how did you order this length?” He sheepishly said, that it was the closest length they had in the catalog! I told him all he needed to do was call Steelcase and they’d make/customize any length he… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by Compsci
Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

this is really hard to believe.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

Not at all- I had the same fun moving office furniture as a temp, and I’ve moved plenty.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

But there was a happy ending. The table top was brought to the next door instrument shop—the place where all that fancy special lab equipment academic egg heads dream up is fabricated—and a couple of inches band-sawed off the end of the table top. Sides were reattached and the table installed as per design of the office area.

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

Navigating meat space is sometimes hard for highly intelligent people. I know people like this.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Once upon a time, when our culture was healthy, a woman pitching a fit in demand of a stupid act, would quickly get the back of the hand. This not only solved the core problem immediately, but this feedback mechanism helped her to become a wiser, and therefore more beneficial member of the community.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

you would have thought women would have learned to duck in such circumstances…

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

That would an evolutionary response. However man would have simply evolved to aim lower!

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

I’d have thought so too—that’s a male response. But after some experience in reading of these things, I think it’s the desire of some—not all—women to *be* hit. Complex psychological interaction to be sure, but I believe a lot of women desire to be hit in order to play victim to escalate the conflict. These are the “crazies” we so often read about.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

When a woman gets a corrective hit (token smack, not brutal punch), her amygdala interprets the act as a reflection of her bond with the man (daddy complex). In another sense, it’s also an act of investment in the relationship for the man because he doesn’t have to start over with a new female every fucking time she gets crazy fit.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Or when a man could get a slap to the face- things were clarified and immediately understood.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

The late Sir Sean Connery said much the same once. It was not remarked upon much at the time.

It is a different world.

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

It was actually a “shit test” according to the manosphere. If you had passed, just think of the fun you’d have had on that couch!
https://www.masculinedevelopment.com/pass-shit-test-2-strategies/

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

well, it was your fault, in the same sense that it’s the school’s fault that Black children don’t learn nothin, or it’s the White cop’s fault when a Black man gets arrested.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

affirmative action, in action.

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Having no father in the household is why women these days have such unrealistic expectations of men.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

I did that with an airline pilot!

We tipped the couch on its end, on a broom, and sideslipped it in with cardboard protecting from scrapege around the bend.

Last edited 3 years ago by Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

“the nonsense is the currency”: and we Outdated are still trading with pieces-of-eight

“the mystical aspect”: Geist, a chicken-or-egg question of influence

(Honors to good Screwtape’s ‘oogily-boogily’, as the immaterial layer generated by living nervous systems is only a broad storage medium like DNA; its cross-communication we perceive as ‘other ways of knowing’, the sixth senses, of our God speaking to us

We are leaky radios that generate our own stations per genetic groupings, the gods of each people; thank you for reminding me it is the physical, the practical, that has the most impact)

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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

On the rare occasions where I try and discuss the issue, I find that the best way to explain racial differences among humans is to bring up dog breeds. People can let their mental guard down a bit if you’re talking about non-humans. All the various breeds are dogs but to say that they’re the same or equally capable at different tasks is insane. Also, the names and classifications of each breed is, of course, a social construct – I mean, somebody came up with the name Great Dane and defined its characteristics – but that doesn’t mean that Great… Read more »

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Right, and its lefty who is the first to say,,, “st Bernard’s are one of the smarter dogs…”

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Our sciences have turned into yappy female Chihuahua’s telling us a male Great Dane is now a female Poodle if we cut off his penis.
Its insane where we are going in the west.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Yeah but that’s where it falls apart also because a liberal white women love Pit Bull mixes. It’s because they think they can tame monsters.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

I’ve more often heard from women that pit bulls are “misunderstood” and get a bad rap. It’s their owners who make them mean, they say.

So, yeah, exactly what these women think about blacks, except that they are willing to live around pit bull mixes but definitely not blacks.

whitney
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Yeah except they would never say the same thing about a Golden Retriever would they. We accept that golden retrievers are a breed that is good with children, uniformly nice, and will eat voraciously with the rare exception

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

I’ve thought of the bleks as like those noisy, yapping, biting little lap dogs the old style rich ladies had. They run around, barking and biting and shitting on everything, but if you point this out (“noticing” as S. Sailor would say), they get very offended at how rude you are about poor little Pinky.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

liberal white women love Pit Bull mixes. It’s because they think they can tame monsters.
Pokemigrants, gotta catch them all

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

“He’s a challenge”

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

They are the monsters.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Yeah, if you see an AWFL and her probable walking towards you on a trail just turn 180 and proceed in the opposite direction.

You can thank me later.

B125
B125
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Dog breeds, or talk about physical characteristics. Everyone agrees that african men run faster. So why could there not be cognitive / temperamental differences too? Evolution stopped at the neck?

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Q: Why are all black men so fast?
A: Because the slow ones are in jail.

I must stop. This is just so bigoted. I will write to Dr Rachel Pope and beg forgiveness for this sin of sins.

Dr. Severian, PhD
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

I used to do that as well. In class, in fact. I’d start with Basic Becky, since for a while there dog ownership was a major status thing in sororities. “You probably have a husky,” I’d guess, when that stupid “Game of Thrones” show was popular. “Not a chihuahua? Why not?” Let her ramble on for a while, with my “objections” getting more and more absurd. “What if you just fed the chihuahua a lot? Wouldn’t it get to husky size? Why not just throw it out in a snowbank, to get it to act like a sled dog?” etc.… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Dr. Severian, PhD
3 years ago

Yeah, evolution is another fun gag to play on the other side. (And, yes, I know there’s a lot of controversy about life just spring from the murky sea, but I’m using the common phrase Theory of Evolution to talk about natural selection because that’s what people think that it is.) Progressives love to feel that they’re on the side of “science” and they love to mock those stupid Christians who reject the Theory of Evolution. (Darwin Fish, anyone?) So when I say that humans evolved like any other plant or animal, that we adapted to our environments, they’re heads… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Good point. And, as one of the resident Unbelievers here, may I point out that your example of the supposed science-affirming Woke denying the reality of race (that is, the denial of verifiable evidence for ideological purposes) is no different from Religion’s denial of worldly truths at odds with Dogma? The age-old war between the Ideal (mind’s reality) and the Real (objective reality), in philosophy, going back at least to Plato.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Dr. Severian, PhD
3 years ago

Cleverly done! I don’t waste time talking with most people, but if I did, I’d copy your approach I’ve understood the usefulness of comparing dog breeds, but didn’t think to use the specific suggestions re feeding/size and environment/behavior. As you note, though, facts don’t convince anyone, particularly when you’re dealing with what is Satanic fervor.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

You are clearly a breedist. I’m sure with enough training and government grants, my Mastiff will be as good going to the burrow after the rats as your terrier 🙂

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whitney
Member
3 years ago

My sister was talking about some degenerate the other day who engaging in some elaborate gender pretending ritual and my sister was working really hard to get all the pronouns right. It made her sound like some sort of mental defective who didn’t understand how to use language and I finally said you sound like a crazy person. She flew into a rage. But I knew she would because she is pathological liar with rage issues who gives money to the Church of Satan and treats baby killing like a Sacrament. You know, typical leftist

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Demons must be laughing their red asses off seeing people try to live up to this nonsense.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

working really hard to get all the pronouns right.

Yes, just like Dr Rachel Pope. I noticed on her Twitter she was most keen to provide them. They are: she/her, as in

She’s a dirty wokist.

and:

As Jamarcus and DeShaun forced her to strip at gunpoint…

Pronouns are important, see?

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

Search for the most ridiculous and incomprehsible jumble of a woke sentence and lay in wait to use it conversationally on sis for the next incounter.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  james wilson
3 years ago

I think it may have been something done by Sokel or Nassim Taleb, it was a site that generated post-modernist sentences that sounded cool.

Member
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

I’ve heard people speculate that some of the value of religious systems, particularly those, especially Judaism, that are focused on codified holy books is in terms of evolutionary “peacocking”. The idea is that being skilled in manipulating and understanding the things like the Talmud was a way for men to demonstrate high intelligence in a society that lacked advanced science and technology. I’ve often wondered if what we call wokism is really just a new kind of Rabbinical thinking for people who don’t have roots in Judaism or a faith in God. It becomes a game of one-upmanship among the… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  whitney
3 years ago

If someone wants to be referred to as they/them, what is the plural for of they/them when addressing a group if they/them?

They’s/Them’S?

Fook me. No country for old men, that for damn sure.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
3 years ago

There are two kinds of stupidity out there, fellas. There is the honest, genetic stupidity caused by defective parents or other environmental or genetic factors… and then there is the plodding, deliberate idiocy put up by people for it’s shock and outrage value. And yes, women are more susceptible to it than men. You can’t have a conversation with them either. They will be idiots going into it, and they’ll be idiots coming out.

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

I think its gross pride too. And they MUST adhere to their inconsistent world, and coming up with more gibble gabble to add to their foolishness is really all they have

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

They’re just not serious.

It’s all a soap opera or stage play, dress up, fashion points. The guy stuff is magical scenery.

These girls really could use some time on the farm or ranch. Actually, I think the red tent, isolation during their period, and midwifery, would reaffirm what’s most real and important to them, as well as the innate sisterhood they miss.

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G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

Anti Racism has formed into replacement for Christianity.
I see it in the upper class white enclaves in my city whom a significant number were marching for BLM this summer.
But those suburbs remain lilly white.
Its like having the New England Yankees around in every part of America. Preaching morality and starting violence against the bad whites, we bad whites are all Confederates now.
Those Yankees still live in lilly white Vermont away from the riff raff, only now Vermont is the upper class white suburbs across America.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

The religion of Anti Racism Puritanism needs to have credentialed Dr’s running around supporting it. But it’s quackery.
We are debating with total quacks.

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

”Quackery” is a great way to characterize it.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Sorry to be that guy, but Orwell really knew what he was writing about:

I tell you, Winston, that reality is not external. Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else. Not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes, and in any case soon perishes: only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal. Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party.

Locust Post
Locust Post
3 years ago

I actually think these credentialed people are as stupid as their beliefs. All it takes to get credentials is an ability to parrot back little details for a test and a see / hear nothing system compliance to slug through years of schooling and debt. They are that stupid. That’s why they obsess on nonsense and then expect all the stupid, dirty tradesmen to save their ass when the toilet backs up.

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  Locust Post
3 years ago

I have a masters degree in a non-stem field. And my feeling about the soft science PHD’s was that they were able to get along with the faculty, and play the game of the faculty. Thats it. Women are particularly good at that.

Mikep
Mikep
Reply to  Locust Post
3 years ago

The point about these stupid beliefs is that they’re meant to be stupid. In the past high status people wore stupid and impractical clothing to advertise the fact that they didn’t have to work. Today, thanks to the industrial revolution that no longer works as a mark of status, so people adopt stupid beliefs. Woke beliefs are a honest marker of high social status because you can only maintain delusional beliefs about something if you can avoid the reality.

Dr. Severian, PhD
Reply to  Mikep
3 years ago

Please allow me to retort: Stupidity-for-stupidity’s-sake isn’t the point, it’s just a bonus. The real reason the road to tenure only takes left turns is purely mercenary: Only “original” “research” gets published, and in the Humanities, at least, all that was worth saying has been said by some Dead White Guy at least 100 years ago. Shakespeare ain’t writing no more sonnets, and we’ve pretty much figured out what caused the Civil War, so if you want a PhD in English Lit or US History, respectively, you’ve either got to unearth something totally new… or just make up some politicized… Read more »

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  Dr. Severian, PhD
3 years ago

in other words there are just way too many people have versity (uni-, di-, tri-, etc.,) training and are looking to do something with it; indeed.

Severian
Reply to  tonaludatus
3 years ago

That’s my experience. Even the die-hard SJWs who just love them some European-style “free college” will admit, off the record and with a few drinks under their belts, that the vast majority of college “students” have no business being there. They have no idea what they’re going to do with their degrees, they are uninterested in the subjects, and can’t do the work in any case. That’s not just a knock on students; the system has been perverted. Unless you’re going into law, medicine, or something requiring big-league math, there’s no point to attending uni. They’re doing a job they… Read more »

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

“Unless you’re going into law, medicine, or something requiring big-league math, there’s no point to attending uni.” McLuhan, himself a college professor, pointed out that universities were created so as to give students access to collections of manuscripts in monasteries, and thus were essentially made irrelevant with Gutenberg. However, there’s something to be said for give and take with colleagues, experts, fellow students, etc. if only to prevent you for getting too far off course (no pun). With ZOOM that last barrier falls, and people are indeed discovering that there’s no point to paying 1000s to send you kid or… Read more »

Member
Reply to  James O'Meara
3 years ago

The university is our society’s appendix. It had a purpose a long time ago, now it just gets inflamed and occasionally bursts and spreads poison throughout the body politic (the rioting over the summer for example). Eventually, people will decide to just cut the damn thing out but not until it nearly kills us all I’m sure.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  James O'Meara
3 years ago

Here’s a famous clip from a Woody Allen film delightfully mocking academics. McLuhan has cameo role.
I suggest fast forward to 1:30 to get to good part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJ8tKRlW3E

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  tonaludatus
3 years ago

Publish or perish means we’re drowning in offal.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Dr. Severian, PhD
3 years ago

While I was just doing it for fun, you are quite right. One branch of literary analysis is to attempt medical diagnosis or psychological analysis of characters, either historical figures (“Was Hitler bipolar?” etc.) or even fictional ones! In fact, for one paper I did just that: I analyzed a few Spanish langauge novels for characters that seemed to have PTSD trauma. Mercifully, I remain unpublished 🙂

Severian
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

I remember seeing a book on something like “PTSD in the Napoleonic Wars.” Interesting, I thought, since I didn’t think that was a thing back then. Turns out it was some goof from the English Department, doing a “character analysis” of War and Peace and suchlike. Which is fine in its place… but the catalog blurb made it sound like actual, you know, history.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

On another topic, I briefly tried to determine how many academic papers are published. At least a million a year. That doesn’t even include books, magazines, etc. The amount of material published is mind-boggling. Just by the laws of averages, the bulk of it must be mediocre to garbage.

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

I insist you upload those to academia.edu!

Natarsco
Member
3 years ago

“There is an old line about how some things are so stupid that only educated people are willing to believe them.” The midwit phenomenon is real. The highest IQ profession is MD and the average IQ of MD’s is only around 120. The other educated professions go down from there. In ages past the right tail of high IQ types had an outsized influence over their profession but as everything becomes more democratized and converged the great unwashed center comes to dominate. This means that people just clever enough to earn a credential yet incapable of critical or independent thought… Read more »

ChetRollins
ChetRollins
Reply to  Natarsco
3 years ago

For context, an IQ of 120 is sufficient to be an engineer of competent quality, as in, they will be able to design a basic bridge that will not collapse but will lack the cleverness of solving unique problems.
Doctors on the lower end of the median can probably keep straight the ‘standard of care’, but if the standard is stupid or illogical, they will still not question it.
The diversity candidates at the very low end (20% tail) probably is more likely to kill you than help you.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  ChetRollins
3 years ago

The midwit problem is made much more dangerous by the death of curiosity and initiative. Our current year arrogance, end of history cloud culture means the problem of credentialing not only grants midwits license to erode the Truth with their own particular stupidity, but achieving parchment status means they have sufficiently dulled and stunted their natural curiosity and healthy skepticism in exchange for the piety of the prog religion. Their status cemented in their compliance. The Renaissance man is an endangered species. Many younger men I encounter dont seem at all interested in how things work or why things are… Read more »

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyse a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
— Robert Heinlein, Time Enough for Love

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

“The Renaissance man is an endangered species.” To the IQ nerds and STEM fetishists, the RM only existed because people were so ignorant “back then.” There was practically no knowledge worth a damn, hence you could study it all; not that you knew anything. Now that we have STEM, your worth as a person depends on your IQ, which is demonstrated by your being a physicist. (Applied Calvinism). You must spend your time learning more and more “real knowledge” about less and less (more = uncertain, perhaps even non-mathematical). As for culture, politics, and other low-IQ girly stuff, the Tribe… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  James O'Meara
3 years ago

Four and eight year degrees were based on that fact that in that time, you could read all the books in existence.

B125
B125
Reply to  ChetRollins
3 years ago

Hahahahahaha

How many of our indian and arab engineering “student” imports have an iq of 120+?

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  ChetRollins
3 years ago

There are a lot more affirmative action doctors (and everything else) than anyone wants to believe. Anyone who thinks the colleges are not practicing affirmative action not only in recruitment, but in graduations is sadly mistaken. Remember, this woman is every bit as much a doctor as any other person with the right credentials. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RLFiyID4SA Read Michelle Obama’s thesis from Princeton entitled “Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community” It’s not just the football players. This is after getting “high school diplomas” in schools where an A means “showed up once in a while” Or the graduation scams. Or entire school… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

You are diminishing my faith in my Haitian cardiologist 😀

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  Natarsco
3 years ago

jeepers, 120 is pretty high,,, no?

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

115 is top one-sixth of Caucasians. 130 top 2%.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

Puts you in the upper 10% (about at 90th) of the population. It’s enough to get you a good percentage of the national wealth when used properly.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

Actually no. It is “gifted.” The real genius starts at 130-140+.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

It’s a little vague. Above 130 tends to be the “here be monsters” part of the map. Wais-IV tops out at 140, and accuracy over 130 decreases to essentially “gee, that’s high” rather than a specific quantitative evaluation.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Natarsco
3 years ago

I’m reading In The First Circle (basically a spy novel, set in 1949) by Solzhenitzyn. If his description of Stalin is even partially accurate, it shows how an average man of no particular talents, through a series of historical acidents, choices and “right place, right time,” coupled with his ruthless personality, can lead to said man rising to power, one of the world’s most powerful rulers for decades, leading a nation horribly wrong with costs to human life of its own citizens well into the millions. I believe the Lysenko affair happened on his watch, tangentially relevant to Watson’s field.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Really smart and capable men always appear lucky. You don’t rise to such heights on a hierarchy by getting lucky. At least some of it was no doubt his ruthlessness, but at some point ruthlessness(alone) becomes a hindrance. When the power structure does not feel secure and might be arrested and killed at any moment for no reason whatsoever, the underlings have no reason to allow you stay in power.
Stalin was not an ordinary average man.

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Point taken. But (at least as Solzhenitsyn gives a “biography” of Stalin in this novel…) he didn’t receive much formal education, certainly not at university. He trained to be a priest! I think you underestimate the role of chance, of luck, in world events. Thousands of well-educated people, those (un)lucky enough to not be shot, ended up in labor camps because they were “enemies of the people” or for similar nebulous “crimes.” Having teams of former professors, doctors, engineers, teachers or other elites cutting down trees in Siberia, laboring in mines, or smilar drudgery is not an enlightened way to… Read more »

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Natarsco
3 years ago

haha “The highest IQ profession is MD”
let me introduce you to a few physicists and mathematicians.

Zippy
Zippy
3 years ago

Z recommended a podcast on Greek history. One of the episodes was on, yup, White privilege and the classics! The podcaster, who sounds like he is in his 30s, invited on a Latin language scholar, who also sounds like a millennial, and who devotes his free time to combating hate groups and White supremacy in the classics. I wasn’t aware of it, but apparently there are dissidents who look to Greece for models of an ethno-state. Besides liberally using the term hate group, this guest used the ADL and SPLC and some lady’s book about white supremacy during the trump… Read more »

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

Didn’t anyone get the memo. Mark Zuckerberg’s sister will decide who gets to study the classics.
Donna Zuckerberg on the Alt-Right Menace from Ancient Greece and Rome, by Steve Sailer – The Unz Review

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James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Judge Smails
3 years ago

Since people are talking about names and titles, I must say Judge Smails is an awesome handle, much better than any Dr. nonsense.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

“I wasn’t aware of it, but apparently there are dissidents who look to Greece for models of an ethno-state”

Lots of groups have looked at ancient Greece as a model for governance, in whole or in part. And ancient Rome as well. You’d figure given how these ancient regimes ended that people might think twice about imitating them.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

There are good reasons “The Classics” were studied more until fairly modern times. Greece, later Rome, are the foundations of the West. Yes, other cultures have their contributions (China, etc.) but those buildings in DC are designed as Neo-Classical and not Ming Dynasty for historical reasons…
Your final comment needs a comment 🙂 Can you provide a example of any ancient (or not so ancient) regime that did not end? Why should ours be any different?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

Jeebus. From Black Vikings to Black Greeks to Black Mozart to Black Victorians.

Note to Neanderthals: you really should’ve hunted down that last little pocket of Erectus hiding in central Africa.

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usNthem
usNthem
3 years ago

As you’ve said in previous posts, Z, it’s like some sort of insanity has infected these people. How they come up with these beliefs and apparently actually believe them is jaw dropping. A great culling will be coming down the road.

ABCer
ABCer
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

At present they are culling us.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  ABCer
3 years ago

And us, ourselves.

How many children/grandchildren do you have?

(I’ve zero, and post 50, I find it vexes me greatly. No one to blame but myself)

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

A Branch Covidian Bonfire of the Birdbrained!

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

Bonfire of the Inanities.

ChetRollins
ChetRollins
3 years ago

She threw the Nazi card pretty fast. Must suck to go through school for 20 years and get wrecked by an online anon with the help of a five minute internet search.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Peradventur3/status/1339168204581728257

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Dr. Marko
Dr. Marko
Reply to  ChetRollins
3 years ago

That’s beautiful. What a dingbat!

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  ChetRollins
3 years ago

They worship at the alter of anti-racism but can’t see it in their own quest to obliterate everything concerning Whites especially our history and good name. That’s how dumb these Dr. Repeaters are.

Eric
Eric
Reply to  Peabody
3 years ago

O they see it! They know what they are doing. But they have to give it a scientistic quasi-religious bent to it to completely justify what they are doing; to mask the little pangs of conscience they still must feel.

Dr. Marko
Dr. Marko
3 years ago

Even worse than calling oneself “Dr.” is when they use their first name, like Dr. Drew or Dr. Phil. Yeah real folksy.

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Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Dr. Marko
3 years ago

unlike Dr Mantis Toboggan.

Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

I am summoned.
Mantis Toboggan, M.D. Now, you want this young man to live, you’re gonna have to gimme some aspirin, a roll of duct tape, a bag of peanuts, and four beers.
It’s Always Sunny used to be the most depraved, hilarious, un-PC show on TV. Now it’s woke too.

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
3 years ago

It must haveaired after i stopped. Getting cable

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
3 years ago

Doctor, you are forgiven. The AP Style manual states that your title is valid in non-technical print and as a descriptor since you hold an MD. Others such as myself are not to be given such status. And that is how it should be.

This is why the whole Jill Biden thing is such a farce. Even the MSM media knows that her title as “Doctor” is not appropriately used outside of immediate academic publication.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
3 years ago

Depravity is actually very PC. Remember, the SJWs want to tear down everything beautiful and true.

A ten-year-old boy in drag stripping for degenerate faggots stuffing dollar bills in his underwear is stunning and brave.

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James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
3 years ago

Yeah, they turned the whole “Mac is gay” theme from a hilarious lack of self-awareness to a Pride special. Never tuned in again. Actually, the rot was there from the start; they were supposed to be the worst people on Earth, but they always carved out an exception of “racists”. (“The Gang Gets Racist,” but also little bits like “hiring slaves”, “racist” woman in old age home, burning all of Dennis & Dee’s grandfather’s mementos because he was an actual Nazi, etc.) The contrast btw their White world and real Philadelphia is especially ludicrous this year.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  James O'Meara
3 years ago

I finally got to see some Philadelphia.
I wasn’t sure if I was even still on the same planet.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
3 years ago

really? are you talking season 15? so far i haven’t seen much wokeness…

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

Perhaps. Season 13’s “Mac Finds his Pride” probably paid off all their wokeness debts for good. I’ve never seen an episode so stuffed with wokeness. The retconning of Mac into Fabulously Gay is as bad as the female Dr. Who. It’s like when Winston Smith screams “I love Big Brother!”

https://news.avclub.com/mac-finds-his-pride-in-a-stunning-game-changing-its-1830282419

Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
Member
Reply to  James O'Meara
3 years ago

“Mac Finds His Pride” ruined me on the show forever.
However the show did give me the line I always use about politics
When has voting ever helped? Who am I supposed to vote for? The Democrat who is going to blast me in the ass? Or the Republican who’s blasting my ass.

Tedjmire
Tedjmire
Reply to  Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
3 years ago

Countless formerly popular characters have been gaywashed in recent years: Starlord (Chris Pratt’s character from Guardians of the Galaxy) was made canonically bisexual and polyamorous in the comics. Starlord was always intended to be heterosexual straight male. Hercules kissed a young boy. Harley Quinn was given a lesbian fan fiction romance with Poison Ivy in the comics and cartoons. The far-left screeched when she was turned back into a heterosexual. The character was, according the creator, not a lesbian and was “just friends” with Poison Ivy. Of course, the far-left didn’t respect that and appropriated a character that did not… Read more »

Severian
Reply to  Dr. Marko
3 years ago

It’s amazing how often it works, though, even at this late date. Pretentiousness aside, I was always afraid to use my title out in the real world – I figured someone would punch me (“he’ll know the reason why”). But waving your title around works great on SJWs. I’ve been able to cut all kinds of lines at SJW-infested places like bookstores – make way for DOCTOR Severian! They of all people should know better, but hey, if it helps me throw sand in the gears, I insist on my full academic titles. I think i’m going to start wearing… Read more »

Dr. Marko
Dr. Marko
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Dr. Severian is an awesome name. Almost like a villain. Own that, bro!

Dr. Severian, PhD
Reply to  Dr. Marko
3 years ago

That’s Dr. Severian, PhD, to you sir!!! (Damn it, now I’m really starting to get into it. What’s my doctorate in? Penology. My dissertation was on the discursive formation of truth and penitence. And so forth. Holy tap-dancing Allah I’m a nerd. See what you started, DOCTOR Marko – if that is in fact your real name?)

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Dr. Marko
3 years ago

For some reason, this reminds me of how when Reed Richards first meets Dr. Doom he fails to make the connection to his old pal Dr. Victor von Doom. Like, hello, how many Dr Doom’s do you think there are?

Severian
Reply to  James O'Meara
3 years ago

Or, you know, you find yourself captured by Vlad. Which Vlad? Well, just look around – do you really need to ask if it’s Vlad “the Impaler”? Context, boys… context.

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Now, if you were captured by Goldfinger…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

The Germans have it right on the titular nonsense.

Real (medical) doctor: Herr (Mr.) or Frau (Mrs.) Doctor

All other academic PhDs: Herr or Frau Doctor Professor

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Dr. Severian, PhD
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Ahh, the Germans – you just can’t stay mad at ’em.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Dr. Severian, PhD
3 years ago

Your new nom d’plume is making me chuckle every time i see it.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Dr. Severian, PhD
3 years ago

Being a Kraut is what it’s all about! I’m sure a Herr Doktor Professor said that.

Herzog
Herzog
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

As for me, I don’t insist on the Doktor as long as they dutifully address me as Professor. Ah, us merciful and easygoing Krauts!

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

And don’t forget their affection for designer uniforms.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

who doesn’t share that affection?

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

The US and some other countries. Really, you need to go back and look at the immense variety of German uniforms in WWII. The US had generals basically wearing an enlisted man’s uniform. Yeah, there were dress uniforms, but they were pretty functional in design. We had no faggot’s like Goering wearing baby blue uniforms.

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

We do now. US Army is loaded with gay General William Tecumseh Shermans.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

I keep reminding the missus that a chiropractor is a “doctor” in exactly the same way I am a “doctor,” and I have the robe to prove it.

Severian
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

It’s sometimes useful when dealing with Lefties. The dumber ones still like to throw around the fact that Rachel Maddow is a “doctor.” Hey, so am I! I guess they hand those things out like candy, eh?

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

Like NPR’s Mr. Science, I like to tell people that they can believe me, because I have a master’s degree…in SCIENCE!

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

To introduce a related topic; I recall that Bush’s AG, John Ashcroft, supposedly insisted that his staff refer to him as “General Ashcroft.” To “Not that kind of Dr.” we need to add “Not that kind of general.”

Tedjmire
Tedjmire
Reply to  Dr. Marko
3 years ago

Here’s a gem from those goons at Salon: “Writing last week at the New Republic, Mark Oppenheimer railed against our reference to Maya Angelou as Dr. Maya Angelou. Though she has over 50 honorary doctorates, Oppenheimer apparently believes…” They’re saying her fake “honorary” doctorates qualified Angelou to claim the address of doctor in public. Normally, people have enough humility not to do that when they receive an honorary degree. Should we have called Mr. Rodgers “Dr. Rodgers“? He also received an honorary degree in 1982 (but never claimed it publicly, unlike the megalomaniacal Angelou). BTW, psychopathic traits like serial lying… Read more »

TomA
TomA
3 years ago

Once upon a time, stupid got you dead before you could reproduce, and that made the species stronger and smarter. Nowadays, in our modern civilized culture, stupid gets you elevated to an artificially high status, where you may become a contagion to the sane. This is an evolutionary pathology, and it is killing us in slow motion. We have conquered the natural environment and eliminated the ancestral feedback mechanisms that ensured stupid was purged rather than recycled and reinforced. That is the core problem that we must face or we will continue our slow decline into becoming an insect-like species.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

40% of children died for most of human history before the Industrial Revolution, more for children born at the bottom and less for children born near the top of society. That’s a ruthless clensing. Further, high functioning parents had families as large as the parents who were most lacking. Now that’s flipped and so are we. (Ed Dutton)

WCiv...---...
WCiv...---...
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Evolution selects for fitness. Smarts was formerly an important measure of fitness before being overtaken by white guilt, pathological altruism, and virtue peacocking.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  WCiv...---...
3 years ago

We need to bring back fist fighting. If a man in a dress accosts you on the street and demands that you refer to him as a “them”, the natural evolutionary response is the punch in the face as hard as you can. That response is actually an act of kindness because the idiot needs to reign in his crazy before someone takes him out permanently.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Ants are 160 million years old, so who’s the smart guy, huh?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

We have temporarily “conquered” the constraints Nature used to impose. Being temporary, alas those enabling conditions will go away at some point. Then the harsh process of natural section will begin anew. Even some imagined “insect like” species would still need to be fed, housed, watered, etc. and none of that appears by magic.

Rachel Sarah Noah
Rachel Sarah Noah
3 years ago

She follows on with a truly deranged claim that there are no indigenous people in Britain. The Rachels, Sarahs and Noahs invented deconstructivism, so it’s not surprising they’re using it as a genocidal weapon against White people. The “there are no indigenous Britons” assertion is used in the US too whenever someone expresses White positivity. The Rachels, Sarahs and Noahs bleat “You’re not White, you’re Irish. You’re Italian. You’re German.” Bitch, you’re not running around shrieking about Italian-American privilege or Irish-American supremacy. I know I’m White because you attack us for being White. White Americans truly are amalgamated mutts. But… Read more »

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Rachel Sarah Noah
3 years ago

There are even indigenous Israelis, most of whom have been expelled from their land.

Just spitballing here, but this psycho probably does believe there are indigenous Americans and Australians. It is time to use any means necessary against this one-sided War on Whites.

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Trevor Noah
Trevor Noah
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Yep a lot of indigenous people were expelled from the British Mandate in Palestine in 1948!

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Trevor Noah
3 years ago

I was speaking to the 80+ year old Lebanese mother of an old friend this weekend. She grew up in Lebanon before marrying a Lebanese American man and still has a large family and property holdings in the old country. Anyway, we were talking about visiting the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and the town of Bethlehem, and she told me that the Jews who lived in the Middle East prior to the creation of Israel were decent people; it was the arrival of European Jews that turned everything on its head.

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  Rachel Sarah Noah
3 years ago

Em Jones , j*w-hunterd, does this too, he claims there is no such thing as the White race. Halsey, who I find arrogant, in a conversation with cotto say Denys white people exist too…

ABCer
ABCer
Reply to  Rachel Sarah Noah
3 years ago

Yeah I was gonna ((())) on Rachael but it gets old.
If someone is on twitter tell her the Jews are not indigenous to Israel.
I can’t get on twitter no way no how, I think i may be on a NSA level ban.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  ABCer
3 years ago

Canaanites were there first, for 2000 years. The Pharoahs had blond and red hair.

I was wrong about Sumer.

WE were Sumer.

When the meteorites obliterated us there, they saw their chance.

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Felix Krull
Member
3 years ago

Another good rule is that when confronted by someone insisting you call her doctor, you are most likely dealing with a stupid person.

Or a German. Very big on titles, the Germans. If you have two doctorates, it’s the height of rudeness not to title you “Herr Doktor Doktor Krull.” And without the snickering, please!

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
3 years ago
david
david
3 years ago

Affirmative action has crammed low IQ or irrational women and minorities into thousands of positions of influence in the west. Now we’re dealing with the consequences. This is why I think a religious nationalism would be more sustainable. If we have an ethnonationalist movement, women would still find a way to ruin it. Religions seem to do a better job of relegating women to their strengths, while also encouraging that we aren’t “unequally yoked.”

Whiskey
Whiskey
3 years ago

Gov Newsom appointed Sec. of State Alex Padilla to Harris seat. He must be nervous over the recall.
Gop politics are over. Dems are ahead in both GA races.
however time to up the China-India war within Dems. Join Blm in demanding all execs there are black: Google, Microsoft , Twitter, Facebook etc. Blacks are our holy sacred cows so Sundar Pinchai should be fine with it.
as a Deplorable i would rather see a black than competent Indian running Google and so would China.
let’s make their coalition fall apart.

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  Whiskey
3 years ago

“As a Deplorable i would rather see a black than competent Indian running Google and so would China.” That idea has a kind of crazed, what the hell kind of brilliance. After all, one implicit part of the demand for immigrants is facing up to the fact that even if the bleks were higher IQ, there just aren’t enough of them; hence we must import Indians. But this is the inherent racism of the meritocracy idea, and the tech SJWs should be called on it. Since racism delenda est, blacks should be appointed to all high level positions, regardless of… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  James O'Meara
3 years ago

“That idea has a kind of crazed, what the hell kind of brilliance.”

It does! He says speak to them in their own language.

If they can invert, why can’t we? It’s like stealing their rifles when we have none.

“…there just aren’t enough of them; hence we must import Indians”

I see you’re fluent as well!

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King Tut
King Tut
Reply to  Whiskey
3 years ago

If American dissidents joined the Democrats en masse, I reckon they could do all manner of mischief and no end of wrecking.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
3 years ago

Oftentimes when we refer to some freak in a sundress as “them” or whatever in the workplace or public. It is out of fear of being doxed or losing ones job and being blackballed. That’s the thing about the management class, they have the clout to impose every sort of insanity imaginable thanks to their control of the police and courts. Defy them and you can lose everything. As to why the management class went off the rails. I blame secularism. By getting rid of God they created a massive void that was filled by a toxic mix of Nihilism,… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

They didn’t get rid of God.

They have one, but he is not yours, and speaks to them in a different language.

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tarstarkas
tarstarkas
3 years ago

The first time I encountered this was in the form of “how does black skin cause x” MIC DROP!!!
This is a level of stupidity that just shouldn’t exist. This is how you know they are dishonest and not dumb.

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
3 years ago

That last paragraph makes a profound point worthy of remembrance and repetition: that the marker distinguishing our “intelligentsia” class is not any given belief per se, but the docility to accept whatever belief is currently being endorsed by that class.

IOW, it’s not a matter of the facts, but of moral character.

Augean Cleanser
Augean Cleanser
3 years ago

Intelligent is not the same as educated. You can type so fast the keyboard smokes, or write code like a bandit, but you cannot figure out how to make fire in the forest, and no one wants to help you because you’re such a jerk.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Augean Cleanser
3 years ago

One of Buddha’s teachings: a man wants to build a fire. He has a “fire stick” (I guess: stick spins, friction ignites tinder, etc.) and a choice of woods: green wood floating in water, green wood on dry land, old wood in water, seasoned dry wood on dry land. The long discourse is question and answer: Would you expect him to start a fire? The answer is, of course, “No” until the last case. Also in the first three, the man would be exhausted and frustrated, and produce no fire.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

With a lighter, Bodhsivatti.

Like, duh.

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

In 500 BC the butane lighter, or even the sulfur match, was still somewhat in the future 🙂

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  Augean Cleanser
3 years ago

too many people are already making fires in the forest…

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
3 years ago

I address the guy in the sundress as “it”; when I’m done laughing of course.(They don’t like that part).

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
3 years ago

Hey, it’s a pronoun, amirite?

Just being polite.

Maybe we should try ‘Ms.’

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Zippy
Zippy
3 years ago

Reminds me of Gene Wilders character working as a waiter after he had been driven out of the medical field for sleeping with a sheep! “I’m a doctor! I’m a doctor dammit!” Haha! Say what you will about j*ws, they are funny…

Suburban_elk
Reply to  Zippy
3 years ago

Yes they are.

But humor is often (as in usually) a cope.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Suburban_elk
3 years ago

Jews, like joggers should only have entertainment value for the white majority – and even then only in small doses.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Brilliant solution, actually, nobody tops Rodney Dangerfield. They weren’t known for particular brilliance until the 20th century, being regarded as Roma Gypsies. Rabbis sternly forbade their students from learning German science as beneath them- notice how they flipped that story right around as part of the post-War propaganda. Germans used the living sh*t out of “J*wish science”. 1500 Jsh officers in the ranks made sure war plans failed- who would they be more interested in subverting? Anybody else notice how kabbalist Goebbels had the same low, slung-back ears as Speer (of Die Sturmer) and Eichmann (fellow tribe member Morrell’s co-administrator… Read more »

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  Suburban_elk
3 years ago

Yes, and its subversive humor. But still

Tedjmire
Tedjmire
3 years ago

Those are important, but they change quickly, so what is most important is the willingness to accept the most absurd beliefs. This is probably the worst thing about living in a totalitarian society: you never know when the current fad’s expiration date is; thus, you’re constantly playing a game of musical chairs that could get you left out of polite society. There was a Marvel actress (Black Panther) who was recently canceled by the mob for merely repeating what Kamala Harris campaigned on for months: “don’t trust the vaccine because Trump.” Now that Biden is in charge and the left… Read more »

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
3 years ago

We observe those trapped in their wormholes of fear and learn from them. They are colonizing a cultural entity embodying the consciousness they project. We have only to look at the gods they create to know who they are.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Higgs Boson
3 years ago

You betcha- the Aztecs were one of their colonies with no white men to stop them, until the sailing ships showed up.

That was a side where the Ba’al ze Bub worshippers won- that hidden substrain that runs the abortion/pedo industry to this day. They even wrote a Book about those early civil wars.

*(Deleted segment. I shouldn’t be posting, but am, driven by rage.)*

What we did for the monstrous Iroquois, we should do for them, before their “vaccine” quackery destroys us all.

We were their Scourge, but now, they are ours.

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tonaludatus
tonaludatus
3 years ago

her twitter (twatter?) handle says it all @preSHITorian

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
3 years ago

If the human soul is a mirror designed to reflect the likeness of God, what image represents what the soulless dark triads call god. What they see is not what we see.

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
3 years ago

Wondering if Dr. Large Hadron Collision would sound classier than Dr. Big Bang.

trackback
3 years ago

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Maus
Maus
3 years ago

Dude, what are you tryin’ to do with this “noticing” truth speak? You’re gonna shut down the Xirl Science pipeline. Then how will we amuse ourselves with pompous stupidity that is so bad it’s hilarious? Think of the Friday podcasts before you shake all this low-hanging stupidity fruit from the trees.

Gat
Gat
3 years ago

Your view of evolution seems to be inverted. You have the environment contributing before it actually does. Darwinian evolution comes about through random mutations to the very specific instructions in an organism’s genetic code. There is no feedback from the environment on this level. The changes are purely non-directed occurrences. After the change the environment then finds the alteration either beneficial or not. If a human was put into a completely new environment he or she would stay the same as long as there were no serendipitous constructive alterations to their code. In the case of skin color it would… Read more »

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krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
3 years ago

Z – how is archeology not STEM?

Severian
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
3 years ago

Archaeologists are SJW lunatics. I knew a bunch in grad school. Ask them about human sacrifice. They’ll have huge piles of evidence staring them in the face, but deny it, because the Noble Savages couldn’t possibly have done it.

Dr. Marko
Dr. Marko
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

It used to be that the mark of an intelligent man was into either archaeology or anthropology. Thomas Bruce for example absconded with Greek artifacts because he thought the British would take better care of them Based!

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Dr. Marko
3 years ago

There are many examples of important historical artifacts that only still exist because foreigners (usually the British) took them away before the Muslims could destroy them. Images of living things, etc. they equate with idolatry.

david
david
Reply to  Dr. Marko
3 years ago

Sad day when your ancestors 2500 years ago were smarter and wiser than you

david
david
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Yeah i have a friend who’s an “archeologist.” Works 3 days a week, smokes weed every day and his wealthy conservative parents send him money. But boy does he love talking about how slavery still impacts american life today. He lost his mind when I quoted the bell curve.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  krustykurmudgeon
3 years ago

well, ask yourself how archaeology is stem? no math, no science, no engineering. just a lot of guessing.

Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

Agreed, no bones about it, it ain’t STEM.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Liberty Mike
3 years ago

Was that an intentional pun? There are, in fact, often bones about, but I agree it is not STEM.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

NSF lists Archaeology under the “Social Sciences”. However, I don’t have as low of an opinion of such “science” as those posting here. I’ve interacted with a few pretty good folk in the field.

nailheadtom
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

It’s typically American to denigrate the humanities because the subjectivity of their studies and interpretation can’t be resolved through numbers. The Yankee has an infatuation with numbers, based generally on the fact that numbers are what are needed to evaluate financial dealings. Money is of the most importance and in Yankee Land if there isn’t money involved, “Who cares”? Nobody needs to know about any of the crap that comes out of the study of anthropology because it’s of no use in making the payments on a BMW lease. A few years back a German banker was giving a major… Read more »

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  nailheadtom
3 years ago

I think this is fair point. I’m not sure about the money part, but we need the humanities. We need art. ITs just that nut jobs have used these academic areas to lend credibility to their dangerous ideology

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

The real benefit of being in STEM is you are wrong a lot” that and the money.

Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  Karl McHungus
3 years ago

Yep three boys. Electrical engineer computer scientist & an airline pilot
Did ok for a drop out grease monkey. Didn’t have to push them much, just served as a good example of what not to do.
This place has the best commentary I’ve found. Always a little better informed spending time here. Thanks all y’all

James O'Meara
James O'Meara
Reply to  nailheadtom
3 years ago

The Yankee point needs expansion. Aren’t they known as “The Jews of Europe”? The humanities were doing just fine until a certain Tribe shoved its way in. That’s when we went from Emerson (the American Goethe, and btw Nietzsche’s favorite then-living philosopher) to the likes of a Judith Butler or Stanley Fish. Believe it or not, in the 40s (?) Lionel Trilling was denied tenure at Columbia because of his Tribal status. Today even WASPs are comically aghast at recalling such “prejudice”:l imagine, thinking that English literature could not be trusted to a Tribesman. The results show that no, it… Read more »

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  nailheadtom
3 years ago

the humanities are denigrated because the people involved (“gate keepers”) have corrupted them beyond redemption.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

My wife is an archeologist, and a very good one who has made a career in museums and field work. But trust me, it most definitely ain’t STEM.

nailheadtom
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Unlike STEM fields, the humanities were always based in academia rather than business. Their research is still difficult to monetize. A turning point was reached, however, with Johnson’s “Great Society” and would-be collegians that didn’t know if they were getting the right change for a candy bar purchase were able to study for a decent job. The trouble is that the jobs were exclusively in the public sector. GE and US Steel didn’t need employees with criminology, psychology or sociology degrees. But academia saw an opportunity to open whole new departments to produce those grads and ship them off to… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  nailheadtom
3 years ago

Not in total disagreement here, but your explanation does not completely explain the preference corporations give a degreed graduate (in any field) for hiring. Yes, you don’t hire a Psychology major to design a bridge. However, why would you necessarily prefer a college graduate for a secretarial position? Brayan Caplan does a prettyy good job discussing this conundrum is his book: “The Case against Education: Why the Education System Is a Waste of Time and Money”. The point Caplan makes is that such preference is part of the push-pull driving folk to spend vast resources into wasteful activities like advanced… Read more »

nailheadtom
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

We’re probably discovering right now how valuable expensive, institutional education really is. At one time the only method of acquiring knowledge was to get it personally from someone willing to share it. That required being in the same place as the source, usually an educational institution. This is no longer the case. A high percentage of the total of human knowledge is available to a ten-year-old in his bedroom, often from some of the same figures found in the elite colleges. In a practical sense degrees don’t mean much anymore, if they ever did. This also means that a person… Read more »

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  nailheadtom
3 years ago

You are conflating intelligence with knowledge. You can ship every college textbook in existence to Papua New Guinea, and it will make no difference (other than some warmer fires and cleaner bottoms). The financial point of modern credentialism is to select for intelligence. That is why we have the current attacks on the mechanisms that make such selection possible (grades, SAT scores, etc).

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Educated.redneck
3 years ago

Yep. That is one of the points in Caplan’s book. Sitting on your ass through four years of wasteful enterprise in college is a proxy for business to select on certain characteristics—like intelligence, but also certain personality factors.

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