Fantasy Camp

Note: The Monday post is up at Taki. For those who missed it, the playback of my Cotto-Gottfried interview is up on YouTube.


A popular aphorism on this side of the great divide is a line from the poet T. S. Eliot who wrote “Humankind cannot bear very much reality.” Most of the time it is part of a general critique of the age, with regards to the human condition. Our betters, rather than face the reality of the human condition, concoct comfortable sounding fantasies to explain the inequality of man. The reason Johnny can’t read, for example, is because of some flaw in the schools, not the mating decisions of his ancestors.

Reality avoidance is a modern problem. In recent times it seems to have become something of a plague on society. Movies and television have shifted from fantastical tales of human achievement, like space travel, to comic book tales of god-like creatures saving the child-like humans from reality. Mainstream politics is one fantasy camp screaming at the other fantasy camp over their imaginary differences. The mass media makes fantasy literature look like a technical manual.

The election of Donald Trump has probably been the greatest catalyst for political fantasy in American history. Since he came down the escalator in 2015, few have bothered to look directly at the reality of this phenomenon. Instead, all sides have spent the last five years building elaborate, plausible explanations for what was happening around Trump, rather than accepting it at face value. Our politics the last five years has been a war between competing realities.

Those fantasy versions of Trump are not fixed. Take for example the alt-right crowd that jumped on the Trump train earlier than anyone. They convinced themselves he was the Pinochet they imagined, who would come to power and rescue them from the fringes of political reality. When the reality of Trump turned out to not be something other than the rise of the god-emperor, they turned the other way and created a fantasy world in which they have always been deeply skeptical of Trump.

In this version of reality, we see the use of a scapegoat character that is common to all of the political fantasy camps. The “boomer” is the uncritical believer in conservative politics that is the archenemy of the red-pilled realist. Whatever contradicts the fantasy is boomer politics. They heap onto this character all of the things they think are wrong with modern politics. Even their impotence is the fault of the boomer. For them, Trump is the king of the boomers, who refused to accept the red-pill.

Of course, fantasy has a kernel of reality. The people still convinced that Trump will make some last-minute move to deny Biden the election are delusional. They can accept that the election was rigged, but they cannot accept that this is the result of a deeply corrupt system that is beyond reform. They hold onto the fantasy that somehow, within the rules, there is a solution to the problem. They are now like a UFO cult waiting for January 6th to see the prophesy revealed.

Probably the most deluded people in this age are those fully invested in establishment politics, both Left and Right. The cranks and nutjobs embracing woke politics think they are fighting the man. The fact that the most powerful institutions on earth are backing them is lost in the fantasy. The racketeers of Conservative Inc., in contrast, are sure that once Trump is gone it is back to business. They will be out there selling Reagan and Buckley memorabilia to a new generation of conservatives.

Lost in all of this is the fact that Trump will waddle off the stage next month and no longer serve as the catalyst to these fantasies. The red-pilled crowd will need to come up with a new way to convince themselves they are special snowflakes. They won’t have the MAGA-hat wearing boomer as a foil. The true believers in MAGA world will not have Q or their god emperor to star in their fantasy. Both sides of this relationship will be looking for a new type of escapism.

The mainstream crowd will have it a bit easier, simply because they can plug into mass media and forgot about the world. Still, they will have to come to grips with the fact that they helped install a dementia patient in the White House. The people around the Pretender Biden are not interested in the colored revolution. They just want to steal as much as they can before it is too late. Those longer for a return to the old ways will have to find a new excuse for why things are not working.

Next month will kick off something of a triple witching hour in the fantasy camps of American politics. The three main camps have relied on Trump as a tent pole to hold up their preferred version of reality. With Trump headed off to retirement, those fantasy versions of realty are no longer tenable. The red-pilled will need a new way to pretend they are special snowflakes. The MAGA crowd will need a new banner around which to rally and the blue-pilled will need a new devil.

People may prefer fantasy to reality, but reality does not go away when you stop believing in it. In the coming months, lots of people are going to arrive at the end of a fantasy road. Maybe they come up with a new fantasy. Maybe the ruling class brings back the escapism of sports and consumerism. It’s also possible that people have run out of ways to avoid facing the reality of this age. Like all forms of escapism, the world of fantasy politics may be coming to an end.


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Epaminondas
Member
4 years ago

A Biden victory means the complete loss of confidence in American institutions among at least half the population. This will have stunning repercussions in the coming years.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

It’s not just that, our foreign adventures have always relied on an air of legitimacy that will no longer exist (to the extent that it still did). Who in their right mind (and is not getting bribed to the gills) would look at the gay-tranny parade of America being led by a dementia patient and prostitute via a stolen election and say “Yeah, I want some of that!”

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

Biden will put new conditions on the Iran Nuclear agreement that Iran will reject. This will be used as proof that Iran is seeking a nuclear weapon and must be stopped.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

I am hoping it is China. Maybe we learn Russia’s lesson of 1905 and our revolution follows within a decade from the ensuing cost and turmoil. Imagine if the USA gets the “Kaiser at Versailles” treatment by the CCP. At least then I will fight instead of my progeny.

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

beautifully said

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

Harris will do for the “first woman President” what Obama did for the “first black President”. Which is to demonstrate basic incompetency and an angry, destructive personality to the table, as well as an obvious role reading the script of others.

Member
Reply to  Dutch
4 years ago

Here in OR we have the hilariously evil and mendacious Kate Brown, In Michigan there’s Gretchen Witmer**, then of course there’s Queen K-Ho herself. I would say that perhaps the only the benefit of all these evil cunts is that the post-Revolution government will have little trouble banning women from public office above the dog catcher level and from the vote entirely.

** really? Gretchen? I’m starting to like the Simulation Hypothesis a bit more – and the idea that whoever runs it likes the Brothers Grimm and has a sense of humor.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Especially with the new increase of net tax consumers.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Neither rain nor sleet nor Election Day deadlines will keep the postal union worker from his anointing rounds.

ABCer
ABCer
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Years?

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  ABCer
4 years ago

It begins now and builds in intensity. All that will be required is the Black Swan event that nobody can predict.

Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Black Swans are one of the few things that gives me a boost when I’ve OD’ed on the little black pills… and I think the skies will be full of the things in this decade. Pack an umbrella, and your gun of course.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Agreed. Awareness comes first. Then people must find the will to admit that the problem exists, it is serious, and that they must act rather than acquiesce. The latter will not happen in large numbers until real hardship arrives at their doorstep. That is the only corrective that can overcome the Comfort First Imperative.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

Insult and humiliation can be a ready substitute for physical privation. “In Gaul, there are three tribes…”

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Agreed … Trump is the most consequential President in the modern age and maybe since Lincoln. He completely revealed the Deep State with the election fraud and made “Fake News” a household phrase. This country has been fundamentally changed because of Trump.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  KeepTheChange
4 years ago

Wait till the government and corporate media are met with a storm of laughter and derision. The social temperature will rise with the passage of every month.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

I’ve been using a line about Michel de Montaigne who looked at Lies, dishonesty, falsehoods, untruthfulness etc in a couple of his essays. We all know what a liar is. Someone telling an untruth is repeating a falsehood that he believes to be true.
The nuance is that the willingness to parrot known Media liars is not a falsehood: it makes you a liar.
I roll it out whenever I hear the “PBS says…”
It takes a couple of beats for them to understand they’ve just been called a liar but I’ve heard no effective comeback.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
4 years ago

This post got long so I toplined it, apologies to purists. But Lanky said: “Then again, I’m in my late 20s and only saw the briefest glimpse of what she was.” This is the definition of a double edged sword, both a blessing and a curse. The generation that feels the sting of this most acutely by far is Gen X. Boomers are largely responsible for it’s creation any strawman punching aside that Z mentioned there is objective truth in that statement. They were the peace & love hippy dippy let’s give away our birthright to 70 IQ foreigners as… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

That’s why I don’t necessarily look for an area to white flight to.

Not only does it not make a difference long term, it’s almost worse to see white area after white area turn to mud. As Z says, might as well live in the present (or the future). I’d only move out for my future kids.

Never forget what was, what could have been, and remember what will be again one day. Never forgive them for what they took from you. If that doesn’t light a fire of righteous anger under your ass then it might be hopeless.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

As I walked along the seashore This young boy greeted me. He was tossing a stranded starfish back into the sea. I said, “Tell me why you bother. Why waste your time this way? There’s a million stranded starfish. Does it really make a difference?” And he said, “It does to this one.” cliche aside. There is an awful lot between the futility of rebuilding the ‘50’s or 80’s like some castles of sand and taking thoughtful action to secure a future for your children. Why is it that White destiny is always written as a foregone sunset while la… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Screwtape
4 years ago

I constantly come back to something Curtis Yarvin (Moldbug) said. Something along the lines of, dissidents always lose the battles, but they are determined warriors, and, in the end, are happy people, even among their losses. Collaborationists win all the battles, but are always and perpetually angry, because nothing ever works right.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Dutch
4 years ago

We are happier people. I’ve read that libs suffer from more mental illness, even when you adjust for wealth and proximity to medical services. Probably because our belief system isn’t rooted in autoerotic abnegation.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

As a late Xer this post really does hit home.

I can remember the ’80s a bit. Reagan, with some help from the conservative movement, actually did manage to restore a ’50s-ish feel to many aspects and areas of the country.

I managed to build myself a pretty smooth, lucrative, fun, and interesting life.

I’m a bit blackpilled it’s never coming back.

Last edited 4 years ago by The Wild Geese Howard
In The Key of .223
In The Key of .223
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

I grew up mostly in a Canadian suburb in the 80s, reading about failed and collapsing civilizations, real and imagined. It took a long time before I realized I was living in one. That suburb is now heavily stained by blacks and browns, the high school I attended gone from less than a percent non-white to perhaps half. When I did worry about the end back then, it was the Yanks and Russkies immolating us all in nuclear hellfire. It would have been a better way to go than this dribbling away in cowardice.

B125
B125
Reply to  In The Key of .223
4 years ago

Lemme guess, either Pickering/Ajax/Scarborough or Mississauga/Brampton.

Now the mud is starting to grow in every other smaller city.

I live in Toronto now and my area is only 30% white.

Last edited 4 years ago by B125
KGB
KGB
Reply to  In The Key of .223
4 years ago

Canadian suburbs in the 80s make me think of “Subdivisions”. And every Molson, Labatt, and Carling commercial that featured generic rock music playing over scenes of all-white house parties or cottage country campfires.

I’m an American and I still miss it terribly. Heartbreaking.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Jesus. That’s dark. (Gen Xer here)

Go on…..

Last edited 4 years ago by ProZNoV
Marko
Marko
4 years ago

Driving through mid-Missouri yesterday and there was a giant TRUMP 2024 sign. There’s your answer for the MAGA fantasy crowd.

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  Marko
4 years ago

I betcha a new election will fix everything.

Vote harder.

More cowbell…

ABCer
ABCer
Reply to  Moe Noname
4 years ago

Boxer work harder
Boxer fight Harder
Napoleon is always right

Napoleon is Rule of Law
Somebody tell the Prots Napoleon is Jewish.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Moe Noname
4 years ago

LOL!! We should make that the slogan of the Hannity/Bongino crowd . . . More cowbell people, more cowbell. It works on so many levels.

Major Lamp Light
Major Lamp Light
Reply to  Moe Noname
4 years ago

“We just gotta vote these people out.” What people, though? They all agree; it’s just a matter of degree, not kind. Further, it’s impossible to change the GOP establishment leadership. Third parties won’t work, they never have before (they’ll get co-opted or the regime’s media will attack them). And we’ve changed governments multiple times and nothing improves. Republicans get the House & Senate = amnesty, policies that benefit their donors, absolutely nothing done for their supporters. The right seems to be falling into three camps now: (1) Delusional “battered wife” types who still cling to the notion of an America… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Major Lamp Light
4 years ago

You can free yourself. Not even be an individualist necessarily. The man who conquers himself is greater than he who conquers a city.

Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  Major Lamp Light
4 years ago

its all screwed, every one is stupid a coward or both, no way out. Nutshell.

Member
Reply to  Moe Noname
4 years ago

There have been repeated attempts here in OR to recall our wretched governor Kate Brown. I occasionally post in a FB group devoted to just that. This is what I hear all the time. We gotta get rid of Brown. The problem is that the next in the chain of command is someone called Shemia Fagan. Fagan is everything Brown is and worse. Oregon has been a vote-by-mail state for 20 years and this is believed by many to be the reason it’s so solidly Blue. Some even think that if you could get a real vote here with real… Read more »

Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  pozymandias
4 years ago

Washington is as bad, hell mail in only and dominion type machines with obviously stolen elections for the last twenty years.

Hilltop
Hilltop
Reply to  Marko
4 years ago

It’s easy to laugh at their need to believe in an unworthy fellow like trump.

But people do need to believe, and these decent, hard-working people deserve so much better.

It’s disgusting that there’s no real, strong, and non-scummy leader to represent their interests in a forthright way.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Hilltop
4 years ago

What Jesus is for and has always been for

B125
B125
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Amen.

White people of all socio-economic backgrounds are so reticent to give up (perceived) freedom to be degenerates in exchange for Christ, order, morality, and love.

In fact the Bible tells us there is no savior who is of this world. A man like Trump could do us some good, but will ultimately disappoint. The only true salvation is in Christ – we need to do the work ourselves down here until that day.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

Not only is there no savior of this world, we will be actively persecuted for our faith. It is happening now, and is part of the road to Christ.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

He’s not here to run Planet Earth and even Christians admit they don’t know when he’ll show up.
Its well and good to take care of your spiritual matters. You still have a body to take care of well and that requires a functional society.
It is up to us to make that happen in the here and now or you can suffer an be broken. Chose wisely.

Last edited 4 years ago by abprosper
tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Hilltop
4 years ago

I really wish Trump hadn’t cucked. But what really gets me is people excusing the cucking. Congress had a veto-proof majority? So what? Make them exercise it. This is the perfect time to pretend you have principles. If it’s going to pass no matter what you do, pose a little. Say “I am not going to sign this abomination of a bill!” Ron Paul had this down to a science. There are many bills Ron Paul cast the single “nay” vote for. It cost him nothing to do that and he got to home and say “Look how principled I… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Marko
4 years ago

Copium is a hell of a drug.

I know, I tried it. Currently Zman Days xx, copium free.

Last edited 4 years ago by ProZNoV
The Babe
The Babe
4 years ago

Trump has been a crushing disappointment, but some of his Tweets shitting all over the legitimacy of our political system have been absolutely amazing.

He really was, from beginning to end, the Twitter president: that’s all he did, but at least he did it well.

A disappointment, but he did move tens of millions of people a few steps down Redpill Road.

Is that enough? Dunno, but it’s something.

WJ0216
WJ0216
Reply to  The Babe
4 years ago

He didn’t sign a nation destroying amnesty. That’s something.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Rational analysis leads to the conclusion that the establishment doesn’t want an amnesty. Something that dissidents can’t wrap their heads around.

Vizzini
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Yup. Legals have to be paid minimum wage and get OSHA protections.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Open borders is popular with the political class because they increasingly realize that any opposition to their upcoming techno-totalitarianism will come from Whites.

ABCer
ABCer
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Give the man his due, we had no TPP (yuge), no Paris accords, no new wars, existing ones kept at trickle, a good economy for 3 years.
And yes 500 miles of new wall.

His real problem is no one told him the President doesn’t call his lawyers.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  ABCer
4 years ago

According to DHS and CBP as of this month 423 miles of fencing have been installed. This includes replacement + new.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  RoBG
4 years ago

To be fair, the fencing that was replaced was in such bad shape that it was like putting in a new barrier. OTOH, the new wall/fencing will be meaningless with an administration that will not enforce immigration laws, as the new barriers were meant to funnel illegals to higher enforced chokepoints.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  DLS
4 years ago

Agree. Saw some of it in person during my soujourn in the SW.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  ABCer
4 years ago

TPP and Paris were much bigger threats than most understand. Withdrawal from these was Trumps biggest achievement.

Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  ABCer
4 years ago

He is surrounded by worm tongues, kushner first and foremost.

Mis(ter)Anthrope
Reply to  ABCer
4 years ago

A wall would be great. But to be truly effective, we need to do the following: 1. No hiring of Mexicans in border control. Even if they are U.S. citizens, a lot of them are still more loyal to Mexico than to the U.S. They are also highly susceptible to taking bribes from the cartels. They speak the language and and come from a culture where bribery is part of life. 2. Put U.S. military snipers on the border with orders to shoot to kill. The cartels will continue to send people and drugs to our country (with or without… Read more »

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

With all due respect, you can’t have it both ways. As you mentioned, Trump probably knew that amnesty would fail cuz of the increased labor costs. He could’ve been trolling them but the media will never tell us the full story. To be honest, I don’t actually remember any concerted effort other than some DACA talk.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  WJ0216
4 years ago

Agreed, and he also didn’t start a new for-profit forever war. Biden will have to do so to accelerate the end stage looting underway.

Most of Trump’s accomplishments were inadvertent, in that his election exposed the utter corruption and vacuity of the empire.

(((They))) Live
(((They))) Live
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

Its not like he didn’t try to start a war, he droned the head of the Iranian military, the most powerful man in the country after the supreme leader, the Iranians clearly don’t want war, but war is what they will get

Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  (((They))) Live
4 years ago

That fucker deserved it if you’d cleaned up after an EFP you might know what your talking about. If it benefited the jews so be it.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

He had something going on in Yemen to accommodate our Saudi friends. But yeah, an improvement over the last several presidents.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

He droned Syria because Ivanka got the sads about a photo. Apparently Jared never shows her the photos of starving Yemenis.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  WJ0216
4 years ago

No new wars is a huge plus.

Last edited 4 years ago by Paintersforms
RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  WJ0216
4 years ago

He signed a de facto amnesty in the Feb ’19 omnibus spending bill. https://tinyurl.com/y3p36ayh Which in section 224(a) prohibits the deportation of anyone who is sponsoring an “unaccompanied” minor illegal alien or lives in a household with a UAC, or a household that potentially might sponsor a UAC. This was also the bill that prevented him from building a wall or using any of the wall/fence prototypes and could only use existing bollard fencing. On another note this bill doubled the number of H-2B visas.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  The Babe
4 years ago

Trump has been a crushing disappointment
trump was a fart in the wind
what i hate about him is his boasting, when you know you are powerless then stfu and stop promising shit, at the end of the day there was no big loss, he was an israelite puppet who had some fondness for the good ol’ times when being wasp meant something..

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  sentry
4 years ago

He poked the snake but never took out his knife to try to kill it.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

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skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  sentry
4 years ago

Anyone that does that stunt should be disqualified for elected office in the US.

Bigtony
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

this. Well said.

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  sentry
4 years ago

Disagree … he at least said enough good things to force a huge election fraud that opened millions of eyes to the complete brokenness of this country. For better or worse, Trump took this country across the Rubicon … that’s hardly a fart in the wind.

Beetle McTurk
Beetle McTurk
Reply to  KeepTheChange
4 years ago

Is that you, Vox Day? “Took this country across the Rubicon”…. Good God, you’re delusional.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  The Babe
4 years ago

Trump knew what we all know, which is that the current system, as it is, is thoroughly corrupt and non-functional. Trump exposed so much of it. More accurately, he got others to expose it in themselves. And that is his contribution to the clown-show of modern America.

Last edited 4 years ago by Dutch
abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  The Babe
4 years ago

He’s a septuagenarian entertainer , hotelier and real estate developer, not a Caesar. What did you expect? It appears to me President Trump expected to be roughly Clinton 2 , patch up the Middle class a bit so his type of enterprise can prosper, do a term, maybe two and to go back to TV. It was a reasonable assumption since he had no idea that our economy was dying of syphilis and that the disease had made the entire ruling class insane. Ultimately he is out of his depths, anyone would be and as such it falls on us,… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
4 years ago

I hate the idea that these deep state c*********s are going to get away with the most blatant election fraud in US history. But I guess it is what it is. I do still cling to the hope though that a day of severe reckoning is coming one way or another, and hopefully before I depart this mortal coil. I despise leftard b******s of all stripes.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  usNthem
4 years ago

If another guy can steal your girlfriend for cash then she was a wretched slag to begin with.
Shitty analogy, but that’s how I feel about our nation now. It’s so fetid and shitty that I can’t even muster up a tear. Then again, I’m in my late 20s and only saw the briefest glimpse of what she was.

Bruno the Arrogant
Bruno the Arrogant
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

Then again, I’m in my late 20s and only saw the briefest glimpse of what she was. I’m in my 60’s, and I doubt either one of us has seen that. It’s true we’ve only gone totally off the deep end in the last 20 years or so, but if you look at the media from around the time I was born, movies, TV shows and books from the mid-50s, it becomes obvious the rot had already taken hold. Perhaps not as in your face as today, but with hindsight you can see the precursors were already in place, even… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

I’m in my early 50s and feel the same way. I don’t feel an iota of sadness over America’s collapse, and I was a hardcore patriot only 15 years ago. What vexes me is the ubiquitous anti-white atmosphere we are forced to breathe. I tune out to the best of my ability, but it’s impossible to do so entirely. I suppose I should be used to these gratuitous affronts by now, but they nettle me all the same. Once the lead begins singing, the AWRs will find me a vengeful and very angry fighter.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

I have also never hoped that my ideological enemies would be killed. Now…

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Gratuitous affronts

Is that like almost every frikin commercial being a black or interracial family?

We unplugged when a Ritz cracker commercial featured a black male putting on lipstick, opening the door, and kissing a white male. That did it for me.

For TV and Ritz crackers.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
4 years ago

Never had the pleasure of seeing that little item of filth, but yes, that’s the sort of thing I’m talking about. White people who support that sort of cultural abomination by purchasing the offending product deserve whatever misery comes their way. And make no mistake, it is just down the road.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

I’m starting to think the great times we older guys experienced were just an accident of history

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

I don’t think so, though. That concord of liberty and social harmony seemed strongest in the 50s.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

I was a kid in the 60’s, and although I maintain that’s the decade that really got this country headed towards the bottom of the sewer, it was a great time to be a kid, especially where I grew up. I don’t know, maybe most children, regardless of when they were that age can say it was a good time. You don’t worry or even think about what’s going on in the adult world – you just have fun…

Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

I’m in my late 20s and only saw the briefest glimpse of what she was.

My guess is that California, before The Gipper signed Simpson-Mazzoli, was the closest the species Homo sapiens ever came to achieving perfection on this Earth, but you would have missed that by a decade or two:

So perfect then, and so wretchedly empty & purposeless & hopeless now.

It’s simply stunning what demographic replacement does to perfection on Earth.

RACE MIXTURE IN THE ROMAN EMPIRE
https://www.toqonline.com/archives/v5n4/54-Frank.pdf

One of Many Georges
One of Many Georges
Reply to  usNthem
4 years ago

When they got away with the coup attempt, they realized that they had carte blanche to try anything.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  One of Many Georges
4 years ago

I couldn’t agree more. The lack of response to the coup, and then the anti-white race riots, paved the way for the election fraud. The perception, and maybe it is correct, is they can literally do anything to the masses who populate the empire with impunity.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

You can do whatever you want. You can grab the masses by their poosy. Its unbelievable.

ABCer
ABCer
Reply to  One of Many Georges
4 years ago

Try.

oh The Presidency is theirs, but its like The President of Afghanistan; first the Soviets then the Americans called him The Mayor of Kabul.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  usNthem
4 years ago

They won’t get away with it, unless you mean they won’t go to jail. Destroying the system you lots over because of your capriciousness is a lot more brutal than going to jail. Jail is a minor punishment that exists to perpetuate the authority of the system and head catastrophes off at the pass. All but the most venal of criminals would prefer jail to chaos because jail is more merciful. The deep state will have their comeuppance eventually, even if they try to avoid the mercy of prison.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Drew
4 years ago

There will be no redemption if good men just stay on the sidelines and watch with fingers crossed. Your obligation is to act. We were built to move, not remain passive bystanders.

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

Not according to Z. Z says sit around and see what happens.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  usNthem
4 years ago

Turn your anger into resolve. They are trying to turn everyone into cowering victims, but you can choose to be a new Minuteman. Get fit, get capable, go into the shadows and become invisible. Your time will come.

Rafterrat
Rafterrat
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

My work requires a fair amount of travel within a couple of hundred miles of home. Am I the only one noticing easy ways to be sand in the gears on every drive? I doubt it.

One of Many Georges
One of Many Georges
4 years ago

I think a lot of conservatives have realized that the Republicans are just absolutely corrupt scum.

I’ve also noticed that more and more women on social media are starting to wake up on the race issue and showing a real receptiveness to illiberal-right politics. And women are often a lagging indicator of social change.

Maybe I’m grasping at straws here. I don’t know.

Last edited 4 years ago by One of Many Georges
Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  One of Many Georges
4 years ago

> And women are often a lagging indicator of social change.
Women will not go against social trends unless they are positive there is some shift taking place they want to get in front of. Their instincts can be an interesting bellweather to predict the future. For example, given the number of women wearing masks while their husbands do not, the coronadoom is probably going to last at least another year.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

I had a Merry Christmas call with my sister. I was determined not to take the bait when she expressed joy that Trump will be gone and ranted about climate change making the weather screwy. When she started on George Floyd I remarked that I was glad that PoS was dead and was only sorry that he either did not die anonymously in an alley or that his past victims could not see him die for closure. That was received with a verbal beatdown for racism and indifference to “people of color”. I was thinking, who uses that term in… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

Why ruin a holiday speaking to someone like that? Improve your life and cut her and all like her off.

Rafterrat
Rafterrat
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

Agreed. I cut off my only brother (now a PC cuck married to a Karen) and my only sister (a screaming humorless PC bitch) many years ago. Today, I don’t know if either is still alive, and there hasn’t been even a moment of regret. In fact, I should have done it earlier. Life is too short to waste time with morons.

B125
B125
Reply to  One of Many Georges
4 years ago

Not all, or even many women. But yes, there are a subsect of Gen X / millennial white women who are quite open to our ideas now.

I was redpilling one about the lockdowns and the great reset. She was swallowing them so easily I almost felt bad, because now she’s scared.

I still think white men are the bigger problem, they just care about booze, sportsball and poosy.

Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

She was swallowing them so easily I almost felt bad, because now she’s scared.

You break it, you own it.

Time to man up and thrust WHITE BUNZ -> WHITE OVEN.

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Herbert Marcuse
4 years ago

Ah, I miss the chateau, and the resounding refrain “bunz in oven.”

KGB
KGB
Reply to  One of Many Georges
4 years ago

I wish there was a way to accurately gauge the real mood of the country right now. I get the feeling that there is a massive reservoir of untapped rage right now, based on conversations, but I can’t trust those instincts. Not yet, anyway. If it was just the election stuck in everyone’s craw, it probably wouldn’t be enough to breach the levee, but we’re closing in on one year of health-tyranny and the promise of continued beatings through 2021. The combination of the two may just prove the catalyst for major change, but at present I can’t imagine what… Read more »

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

The sudden rarity of public opinion poll results is noteworthy. Perhaps they are so unfavorable to the narrative that they can’t even be spun into anything of value to the narrative.

Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

But who?

Why not YOU?

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

I’ve noticed that those out in the country are doing an awful lot of “Noticing” after the election debacle and the election and media rhetoric. Not explicit about who they are noticing, but they are realizing that there is a “they” and an “us.”

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Educated.redneck
4 years ago

Here in the rustbelt it’s very similar, although most of us have been brought up with vibrancy in our midst, so it’s proving a bit harder for some to put into words what’s painfully obvious to their eyes.

B125
B125
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

Same, in rural Ontario there’s alot of angry white guys. The mental energy is there, I feel that I don’t need to say anything to understand them. There is a change in the city too. There may be more woke white guys than we realize. I’ve also noticed alot of despair in white men’s eyes in the diverse corner of my city. This is not so positive, they likely feel trapped and alienated unlike the rural folks who talk about this stuff more. But it’s a change nonetheless. Some guys just have that “twinkle” as I’ve said before. The guys… Read more »

Zippy
Zippy
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

I am having difficulty with the masks and the shutdowns. THat there is no end being talke about is very demoralizing to me

Major Lamp Light
Major Lamp Light
Reply to  One of Many Georges
4 years ago

I’ve also noticed that more and more women on social media are starting to wake up on the race issue and showing a real receptiveness to illiberal-right politics. Here’s a stat that will absolutely blow your mind: White women are more ethnocentric than White men. According to the polls I’ve seen, it’s true. More White women than White men say being White is important to their sense of identity. This is the real reason black women hate White women: they secretly suspect White women aren’t on their side. Females have much higher social IQs than men, so they are able… Read more »

Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
Reply to  Major Lamp Light
4 years ago

The reality is that some women are just following the bad example men set for them. (((BLM))) is run by a man, a White dude at that. The (((SPLC))) and (((ADL))) were run by men for the longest time. Corporations run by White males forced the (((Civil Rights Era))) onto the public. White men wrote all those movies like (((Driving Miss Daisy and (((Greenbook))). If you want women to act differently, you need to set a better example and be a leader whom they can follow, one that is willing to play into their interest Who allowed the JIDF to… Read more »

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Major Lamp Light
4 years ago

https://www.unz.com/anepigone/ There is a literal mountain of data on that link that absolutely refutes your claim. Across the board white women vote and think stupidly and in a pathologically altruistic manner. There is a long genetic precedent for why this is which I’m not going to write a mini-thesis on here, but you seem like a bright bulb ‘Major Lamp Light’ so I’m certain you know of what I speak. Women are always always going to vote popular opinion. There is nothing new under the sun in this regard they are genetically programmed to follow the herd. The zeitgeist right… Read more »

Major Lamp Light
Major Lamp Light
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

“https://www.unz.com/anepigone/ There is a literal mountain of data on that link that absolutely refutes your claim. Across the board white women vote and think stupidly” 1) Wrong. Nothing there refutes my claim. I find it ironic that you resorted to using the same “well, they don’t vote republican so they must not like Whites” argument immediately after I brought it up.You clearly didn’t read or understand what I wrote. All you did was cite something without understanding it. Appeal to authority fallacy. Brad Griffin has published opinion polls showing White women are more likely to state being White is important… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Apex Predator
4 years ago

Getting mad at women for following dominant social trends is like getting mad at a wolf for following the pack. It’s how they’re programmed.

Until white men shape up, this situation will continue. The wolf pack will remain disorganized until an alpha shows up.

White women are less likely to race mix than white men. They are also *more* aware of wokeness – however this is just expressed as submission to globohomo rather than resistance. Their men are saying muh NegroBall Playerz and watching porn instead of fucking them senseless and racepilling them.

B125
B125
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

Talk to a white woman about school districting and they are race realists. As a white husband it’s your job to gently push her further. They’re conflicted between reality and unthinkable bad think. Most white men are also cucks.

Rich
Member
Reply to  Major Lamp Light
4 years ago

“This is the real reason black women hate White women: they secretly suspect White women aren’t on their side.”

In everyday reality, I don’t think this is the main reason.
The average black woman is a fairly shallow well. The main reason for the hatred is jealousy of hair texture and anger over the fact that black men are attracted to white women.

Major Lamp Light
Major Lamp Light
Reply to  Rich
4 years ago

Black women are envious of White women, so they demand submission to soothe their hurt feelings, but White women are more ethnocentric than you’d think and great liars. Thus, black women suspect they are being deceived by a group they are deeply jealous of and resent as a result. This has led to a growing hatred of White females (and Asians / Hispanics) among black women. What you see printed about White women by black women in the NYT — “you’re lucky we don’t want revenge” — would have been unthinkable a generation ago. But websites like Twitter & Instagram… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Rich
4 years ago

Add the fact that the typical female jogger who doesn’t have some white blood somewhere in the lineage tends to resemble a simian more than anything else.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Major Lamp Light
4 years ago
Last edited 4 years ago by bilejones
KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  One of Many Georges
4 years ago

You’re probably an optimistic person by nature, which is good. However, I’m not at all optimistic about women, en masse, adopting any new attitudes towards race relations. Having just been forced to walk through a large shopping mall with the wife, I saw just as many White women with non-white partners, as White partners … maybe more.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  One of Many Georges
4 years ago

GOP delenda est.

(The GOP must be destroyed)

Damian
Damian
4 years ago

So I’ve mentioned this before but I have a friend who worked in the UK Nato headquarters from 2014-2017. I’m a former Army Officer and he’s still serving. He was convinced (and by the way he’s normally v blue pill) that Hilary was going to start a war with Russia and from 2014 that’s what N was planning for. Remember that she campaigned to shoot down any Russian jets over Syria. I don’t believe they were planning to invade and occupy, just destroy the military and replace Putin with Yeltsin Mk2. Trump didn’t do this war, and it has given… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Damian
4 years ago

There is little doubt Hillary was a bought-and-paid conduit to a proxy war in Syria. Now, if Biden tries to do the same–and his ventriloquists expect it–I’m not at all certain the empire will prevail, and all reluctance about mushroom clouds over Tel Aviv will be off the table. Then it gets serious; I’m going to make a prediction and this isn’t going out on a limb at all. The United States will decisively lose a war in the next year or so. It probably will start either in Syria or the Ukraine, and will rapidly escalate with serious threats… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

My main disagreement is timeframe.

I can see many of your points coming to pass in the next 3 to 10 years.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

The time frame for starting the war is within 18 months, six months out from the midterms. But, yes, the other aspects could take longer. My expectation is the proxy war, which is coming, will be over quickly and will be humiliating.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

Same.

Major Lamp Light
Major Lamp Light
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

Perhaps, but I see things playing out a little differently. I think eventually a showdown with China will come. In the initial stages of conflict, China will score a huge and unexpected, but decisive, blow. This will require a monumental sacrifice of White males to compensate, and after years of president “Yeah but Whites” Harris, the military and public backs down, letting the Chinese win. The White element of the military simple refuses to fight. The establishment will be beside themselves asking “but how?” Answer: why would White males want to get themselves killed and maimed on behalf of a… Read more »

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  Major Lamp Light
4 years ago

I agree more with the China scenario than the Russian one. China could get very heavy-handed with HK … and then start flexing on Taiwan

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

For me the “tell” was the boast about lying to Trump about troop numbers in Syria. Have you heard so much as a peep from the WH? Congress? Just another unauthorized war at the expense of the American people.

Damian
Damian
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

The United States (and Nato) hasn’t fought a peer-military in decades, and has had air superiority for pretty much all of Nato’s existence. The UK fought the Falklands with air parity and I think that was about as close as we ever got to going up against a ‘peer-military’. Whilst Western militaries talk maneuver warfare (3rd generation), we actually do attrition warfare (2nd generation) which is why we keep loosing in the desert to insurgents (4th generation). A war with Russia or China will be against a 5th generation warfare enemy. Expect the power and cash machines to go down… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Damian
4 years ago

Thanks for reminding me about getting out of NATO and/or making the members pony-up their fair share of the cost.

B125
B125
Reply to  Damian
4 years ago

I get tired of people waiting for that saviour… Now they’re saying that china is the saviour who will take in rejected white workers from the usa. Ha ha.

Russia is not a saviour. Putin looks out for Russians. If you’re not Russian then it’s untenable.

It makes us no different than the indians running away from India instead of improving it.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

Putin has had the black-hat Lubivitchers in his office. He’s no friend of ours. That doesn’t mean we should provoke him.

Damian
Damian
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

To quote a Syrian I was chatting with over coffee in Lebanon. ‘In Europe you are taking in our low educated, low IQ, country bumpkins’.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Damian
4 years ago

These conflicts seem to be about ensuring a monopoly on the United States currency. The minute countries have an alternative, the United States will be shown for a country with an infrastructure hollowed out to nothing whose only export is degeneracy.
Our politicians and military leaders dare not say this outright for obvious reasons.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

It will be interesting when the Fed/Treasury try to implement a digital Dollar. A digital Dollar will allow total control over how Dollars are used in transactions. Domestically, they can be prohibited for use in buying firearms, precious metals, vitamins, wrongthought books or funding dangerous organizations. However, foreign users will certainly balk at such controls and would have alternatives. It could level the playing field for national currencies in international transactions to the disadvantage of the Dollar. The fact that foreign users soak up so many Dollars is what allows so many Dollars to be created while managing to hide… Read more »

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

I’ve listened to a couple of conversations with economist Richard Werner and he believes that the Central Banks are forcing smaller banks to close via this ultra-low interest rate environment. He also said that cash will be removed in order to control and track every purchase …

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

… Maybe existing BitCoin accounts could survive in this situation but maybe no additional purchases of bitcoin would be allowed cuz that would seem to require a conventional exchange to get the new BitCoin. I’m not sure how ez it would be to block pure BitCoin exchanges, tho.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

I’m not an economist, but it has always made me think that why is the EU currency, essentially Germany, stronger than the US dollar? Is the world saying that they have more faith in Germany than in the US?

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

When you get into “purchasing power” there are many factors involved (currency valuations, tariffs, etc.)

Damian
Damian
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 years ago

Yes, I think they will run out of road soon. Looking at it logically the US doesn’t control its own currency – in a real sense. Sure they can print and print and print and the inflation goes offshore, but when it comes back the dollar is dead.
But they must know this, so I’m assuming they have a digital Amero lined up for when most people are completely broke.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Damian
4 years ago

Usually when it comes back, it goes into Treasury bonds, real estate or the stock market. Thus is gives the illusion of prosperity and keeps interest rates low.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Damian
4 years ago

I see no saviour on the horizon, and so we have to start to work towards saving our nations ourselves.
the only way that would happen is if leftists, cops etc vaccinate themselves to death leaving only the white nationalists behind.

Last edited 4 years ago by sentry
skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  sentry
4 years ago

Which is why I have so magnanimously offered to defer my vaccination until ALL people of color, government employees, sexual minorities, undocumented residents and citizens of developing nations are vaccinated.
It’s only fair.

Damian
Damian
Reply to  sentry
4 years ago

Strangely if there is something seriously wrong with this vaccine it will leave behind those independently minded un-pozzed free thinkers.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Damian
4 years ago

I agree that we dodged the Hillary bullet with Trump’s election.

I disagree we’d roll the Russians in Syria. This is based on the performance of their expeditionary force relative to the US-led forces.

Damian
Damian
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

Good point and I’ll rephrase what my friend said to me. His view (and this was his speculation as to how to get public support) was they they would attack Russia in Syria (because Assad is literally Hitler) in a stand-off way by taking out aircraft, bases, ships in the Med/Tartous and Russia’s ability to support troops that far from Russia itself. It wouldn’t be a ground invasion but a means of escalation. Hence OPCW had to say Assad did what he did. But any Russian response (or false flag) would be the pretext to continue the escalation on Russia’s… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

Z forgets another camp that will be lost without Trump – the Never Trumper conservatives.

In their fantasy, they hunt down the heretics who sided with Trump, destroying their careers and socially ostracizing them, which, apparently, in Washington is considered horrible. The Never Trumpers then return the GOP to the Washington Generals of politics so they can all get back to losing gracefully and profitably.

By accident, I stumbled upon this plan laid out by that silly little girl Jonah Goldberg.

https://gfile.thedispatch.com/p/the-long-march-back

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

In their fantasies, they get jobs in the Biden Administration. How’s that working out so far?

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Drake
4 years ago

The democrats have enough of their own neocons without the baggage of the republicons.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

IIf there is anything that we can laugh up Our Sleeve about in the next 4 years it is the bind the Democrats have put themselves in. To the extent that they hire a “Diverse” workforce (Woke Force?) they’re going to suffer a drop in quality. To the extent they hire Competence they’re going to alienate the socialist faction.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

The problem is how long such a reduction in economic efficiency can be supported by the present system. Things like a bridge collapse are pretty noticeable, but there are a myriad of other things that go by under the radar so to speak. 4 years of Leftist ideology on steroids is bad, but I suspect won’t wake people up.

Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

What I find disheartening is that there is an audience for these clowns. There is no natural audience for them. But the Frankfurt School controls the Federal Reserve, and the Federal Reserve invents infinite fake shekels that quickly find their way to the Frankfurt School’s Finance & Usury Industrial Complex, which then strategically sheds enough of the fake shekels to fuel the Frankfurt School’s Madison Avenue Industrial Complex, that then launders enough shekels to keep the lights on at the Frankfurt School’s Media Industrial Complex [to include all of Scrotial Media], so that Jonah Goldberg and his fat old yenta… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Not much of an audience outside the astroturf, but, yes, even one is too much.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

I don’t think too many middle-class Normies care about hunting down the heretics, but they do want to get back to “normal.” Trump’s existence kept pushing reality into their face, a reality that they don’t want to acknowledge. Acknowledging that we’re moving from the Ideological Age to the Demographic age is jarring. It means acknowledging that 1) your country is dead; 2) you’re about to become a despised minority; 3) you blew a lot of chances to stop this from happening; 4) nobody cares about your blessed Constitution; 5) violence may be on its way; etc., etc. This is not… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

‘Middle class’ doomed themselves with their love of mammon and civility. Looking down on rough, uncouth workers, delusions of climbing into the elite. No clue how much both groups have come to despise them.

By middle class I mean those who think they’re hot shit because they’re making 6 or 7 figures

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

If you’re making at least 100K, you’re in the upper-middle class and probably in the upper class, period.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Not anymore. Hell I’ve got a bunch of friends from high school making 6 figures on their own. There are entire developments full of $500k + houses where I live. Tons of 6 figure households out there.

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

Yeah it obviously is where you are located. Making “six figures” in my area is definitely not upper class.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Valley Lurker
4 years ago

In some places it’s not. In most places it is. That said, there’s a great deal of difference between 100K and 900K.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

This. Here in the DFW burbs, 100k is solidly middle class, and if you want to send your kids to private school – Christian school, not prep school – it’s a huge strain. Meanwhile, there are also high school kids driving new beamers gifted by their parents who earn the high six figures. And for younger people starting out, rents are outrageously high because of the constant influx (immigrants from every foreign shithole and Americans from every sh$lib city/state).

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

I think ostei’s point was more that there are those who make 100k+ and are “above the line,” then there is a sharp drop down to the rest of the 90% of people, both in material as well as so-called moral terms.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Educated.redneck
4 years ago

I think he meant that too, and it’s true, but on the other hand the McMansion crowd are a dime a dozen these days. I think that can rightly be called middle class, and people like me who would’ve been middle class a generation ago are now working poor. The higher standard of living hides the fact because it’s all financed imo.

Plus the fact that the rich are insanely rich now. I was thinking this morning if I made $1 mil every year for 200000 years I’d have as much as Bezos. Mind blowing.

Last edited 4 years ago by Paintersforms
Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Educated.redneck
4 years ago

Right. Statistically, if you’re making 100K you are borderline elite financially. The vast majority of Americans make nowhere near that kind of money.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Income and wealth are not the same, but there is a high correlation over time. $100k puts you on track, but does not guarantee it. Spend half of that income—after tax—money and save the rest and in 20 yrs you’re home free. But many don’t do this.

My go to statistic is wealth distribution—and that’s on par with feudal times in my estimation. Too many folk with too much wealth and an urge to use it to extend authority and power over the rest of us.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

But if you’re making 100K and your wife is making close to that, you may very well be able to afford a house worth 500K.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Yep, and don’t forget to add a basement so that your children can continue to live with you in their 30’s after being raised by someone else and dumped into public schools—but hey, you made it in America!

Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

we can forge a people out of the ideals of individualism, free markets, good laws and institutions A people called Nihilists. Is it Roman legalism which fuels this insanity? Spergtarded Alisa-Rosenbaum-ism? The Scofield Heresy? I guess I probably shouldn’t joke about a psycho-sociological phenomenon as powerful as this. The answer could very well be that there is an element of psychological [and spiritual] cowardice at work here. Or maybe just psychological [and spiritual] laziness? Maybe people don’t want to invest the intellectual elbow grease necessary to reverse-engineer the true history of the 20th Century and induce the (((Who)))-Whom equation? Too… Read more »

dinothedoxie
dinothedoxie
Reply to  Herbert Marcuse
4 years ago

Aspbergers.

A lot of righties are high functioning autistics that want, need, the world to follow strict rules that they can navigate.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

What makes you think they have an audience?

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Yeah, I was curious about the comments as well, both how many and what they said. Nice to see the top two comments being critical of Goldberg, particularly, Goldberg’s failure to acknowledge the corruption of the Left, Deep State and the media.

Even on their home turf, the grifters are running into resistance. That’s a good sign.

The sad sign is that literally none of them seem to understand that demographic changes will doom the GOP one way or the other. The commenters still live mentally in the Ideological Age.

MikeCLT
MikeCLT
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

I read somewhere that the Dispatch is the most subscribed to “newsletter” on substack or whatever its platform is. Good grief.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Holy crap, that is depressing. But those numbers don’t make sense. Goldberg’s article, which wasn’t behind a pay wall, got ~400 comments and it’s been out for a bit. Yet, the Dispatch has tens of thousands of paying subscribers.

How is that possible? Who are these people signing up for this?

I just figured that Goldberg was being paid by a few of the usual suspects, not actual readers.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

The Bulwark is number three? Has to be some kind of money-laundering scam. Has to be.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  MikeCLT
4 years ago

Can that figure be trusted? Theaters paper the crowd, Brian Epstein bought thousands of copies of “Love Me Do”, Covid deaths, etc.

Major Lamp Light
Major Lamp Light
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

Probably sock puppet accounts to inflate their totals. Political campaigns now regularly pay private companies to invent social media accounts to make politicians look more popular than they really are. Twitter purged about a million Obama bot accounts a few years ago. Newt Gingrich’s campaign paid a company to create Twitter accounts to make him look popular during the 2012 GOP primary. He lost to Mitt Romney anyway. Same here.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

But it shouldn’t surprise you. AINO is a nation of clowns, cowards, criminals and kooks.

Major Lamp Light
Major Lamp Light
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Is there? The National Review is subsidized by Google and other rich donors. What audience do these people really have once you strip away the veneer of authority?

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

whom? how many?

acetone
acetone
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

An audience isn’t a necessity.

What is a necessity is someone to finanically support the clowns and their propaganda efforts. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people willing to do this.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
4 years ago

Trump has been a red pill for too many wrong reasons, unfortunately, but at least he did that much. Still bitterly disappointed by the weakness he showed this year especially.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

Between his jellyfish reaction to the Wuhan flu, his refusal to jettison Fauci, Birx, et al., his supine reaction to the outright theft of the election, and the cherry on top of signing this bill, it’s hard to think of anyone who’s had a worse year.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 years ago

But was he good for the jews?

Gunner Q
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

Very good for the Jews. One of Trump’s pardons was for Philip Esformes, convicted last year for the worst count of Medicare fraud ever–over $1b. He was sentenced to twenty years in prison and served only one of them thanks to DJT.

Drake
Drake
4 years ago

Trump signing that gigantic foreign aid bill will cement his legacy as nothing more than a bullshit artist.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

I saw him as a big FU to the establishment at the very least. Now it appears we’ve got a bigger FU coming back our way.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  usNthem
4 years ago

Yeah. At this point, I’d say they’re primarily motivated by revenge.

WJ0216
WJ0216
Reply to  Drake
4 years ago

Unfortunately yes. As usual, he blustered about not signing it and then signed it anyway. 1,000,000,000 to the Smithsonian for a new museum. 400,000,000 less to ICE. He kicked his die hard supporters in the nuts with this one.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  WJ0216
4 years ago

The only explanations are an attempt at saving face instead of getting a veto override, or an exchange for support to contest on January 6th. Both are stupid, mind you, since the veto would have sent a resounding message about his presidency and the contested election drama is just a pipe dream now.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  WJ0216
4 years ago

Trump has a weak chin

What they say about men with weak chins, in my experience, has always proven true. At some point or another, when you need these guys most the weak chin syndrome shows itself

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  WJ0216
4 years ago

Did he even once push back and ask for a CR to sign? From the time he took office to declaring a border emergency in ’19, he signed 12 omnibus spending bills w/o wall funding.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  WJ0216
4 years ago

They’ll still find a way to justify it. “If Trump only knew . . .” There’s never an end to a personality cult; not even death of their hero deters most worshippers.

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RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Drake
4 years ago

Most of the foreign aid stuff was in his version of the bill.

Drew
Drew
4 years ago

“Those longing for a return to the old ways will have to find a new excuse for why things are not working.” The biggest blind spot in modern federal politics is the postwar economic development of Europe in the 50s and 60s. A sizeable portion of the reason for America’s unprecedented economic boom through the 50s and 60s was due to selling a lot of stuff to rebuilding Europe, which itself was only possible because America’s industrial base was the only one intact after the war. Once Europe was rebuilt, demand for American goods naturally collapsed, and we have not… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Drew
4 years ago

your point is undeniable

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Drew
4 years ago

Note how the controlled demolition of Western economies is being done using Covid as a cudgel.

I believe this is being done intentionally to create an enormous economic vacuum for China to fill and become the global hyperpower.

The uniform behavior of Western nations leads me to believe that there are an enormous number of paid CCP stooges, fellow travelers, and true believers in the West, far more than previously imagined.

B125
B125
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

It sure does look like planned destruction, rather than incompetence. Destroying the education system. Destruction of cities with mobs. “Elections” of DAs who legalize drugs and crime. Obviously the economic implosion caused by lockdowns.

The scale of such a conspiracy is so vast though. It’s hard to believe that they could get the controlled people into power so effectively – especially the low verbal iq Chinese.

Something is going on for sure and the CCP is certainly a possibility.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

But how is this good for the jews?

B125
B125
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

It’s not, and many Jews are quite paranoid about China, which is a new development.

Possible there are many competing foreign influences.

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

I’ve also thought about this sudden attack of China by the media and how this involves the Jews … maybe the media is simply lying again and shifting focus to China … we can’t believe anything from the media.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

Many of the unamed people have already made a mint selling the US and Europe out to China.

The long-term game is their real China problem. They can’t pull the, “Hello, fellow YTs!” trick on the Han people. The Han are also immune to Holocaust guilt tripping, having had no hand in it.

The South Asians have shown it is possible to play ethnic hardball and win against the unamed people by pushing them out of the diamond trade.

The Han people know how to play ethnic hardball.

Rich
Member
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

We are seeing the results of what has been “progressing” for years.

Lanky
Lanky
4 years ago

Does anyone believe that any measure of dissident thought can survive in postmodern America? Just look at the current state of half of our population! And if AI keeps improving — and it will — wouldn’t its stranglehold over our psychologies improve in tandem, leaving fewer and fewer people to see through the ruse? I favor the alternative — kinda something like The Taliban. Create our own territory and culture that is completely insufferable to them. A place that’s not even worth entering. Perhaps we could even devise a variant of English that makes it difficult for them to determine… Read more »

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Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

Trump was not Hitler reincarnated and Biden/Harris aren’t Lenin/Stalin reincarnated.

Our country has truly lost its collective mind. Everyone, on all sides, craves some totalitarian evil to fight, to give their own pathetic lives meaning. Even as the culture continues to splinter in delusional, unpredictable ways.

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Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
4 years ago

Biden/Harris aren’t Lenin/Stalin reincarnated Biden & Harris don’t have much moar than three or four functioning brain cells between them, and if you throw in DOCTOR Jill Biden PHD then you might get a total of five functioning brain cells. But if Biden is installed as President, then this country will be run by Mr Kamaltoe Harris, (((Doug Emhoff))), who will be answering to an entire race of reptile-in-human-skin-suit genetic psychopaths. “Well, there is no famine.” (((Meir Henoch Wallach Finklestein))) Gareth Jones’s Diary, March 1933 https://www.garethjones.org/st_patricks/~litvinov_famine_denial2-old.htm And (((Doug Emhoff))) will be the Maxim Litvinov of the 21st Century. PS: Kindly… Read more »

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
4 years ago

You’re half right.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

I guess is say that the reason they keep having to develop more psychological weapons, and more sophisticated ones at that, is because eventually they stop working and reality bleeds through. The various escapes from reality are partial and temporary at best, which is why people have to keep inventing new escape routes.

B125
B125
Reply to  Drew
4 years ago

Netflix, porn, weed, and rap music seem to be the four main prongs used to control the younger masses.

All have extremely negative psychological effects on young white people, men in particular. As somebody who basically partakes in 0/4 I feel like an alien among my peers at times.

Basically it’s succeeded in turning young white men into soft, mentally weak, depressed, and passive sheep.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

The other day some young guy behind the deli counter of a high end grocery store growled at me to pull my mask over my nose. At that moment I saw how easy it would be to conquer us with men like this for protection. Then I realized it was a silly thought since it’s already happened. Boomers, by and large, were the worst parents ever to create such weak men (and bitchy clueless women),

Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
Reply to  Peabody
4 years ago

Boomers, by and large, were the worst parents ever to create such weak men (and bitchy clueless women) There is some good news, however: White shitlibs have largely unbred themselves right out of existence. Everything I’m seeing in the post-Griswold/post-Roe demographics indicates that the current 30s-ish bitchy clueless Millennial shitcunt females are the very last of their breed – and literally unironically so, because none of them are having any children whatsoever. In terms of 19-year generations: 1908-1926: Greatest 1927-1945: Silent 1946-1964: Boomer 1965: GRISWOLD-v-CONNECTICUT 1973: ROE-v-WADE 1965-1983: GenX 1984-2002: GenY/Millennial 2003-2021: Generation Zyklon We’re a solid two generations away… Read more »

Beetle McTurk
Beetle McTurk
Reply to  Herbert Marcuse
4 years ago

“There is some good news, however: White shitlibs have largely unbred themselves right out of existence.”

Do you imagine that Lenina may only become a Communist because Lenina’s parents taught her to be one?

Bred themselves right out of existence? Have you never heard of Television, public schools, pop music, and ubiquitous, relentless social programming that incidentally advertises consumer products too?

It sounds as though you really do not understand the mechanisms that propagate the mind virus, or how utterly and effortlessly minds are shaped and controlled in this Globalist Vanity Fair we are all trapped in.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Peabody
4 years ago

That’s usually when I take it off completely. If you laugh at them and mock them for getting in your face, they back down pretty quick.

telling one to mind their own business usually works.

Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

(((Netflix, porn, weed, and rap music)))Basically it’s succeeded in turning young white men into soft, mentally weak, depressed, and passive sheep. Precisely as intended, and all are part of the greater War Against Boys. https://www.bing.com/search?q=the+war+against+boys+site%3Aamazon.com In particular, Marijuana was legalized through the financial backing of (((Peter Lewis and George Soros))). (((Soros))) also happens to fund the “schizophrenia.com” aggregator website, which openly admits that Marijuana causes the onset of Schizophrenia in at-risk neuro-psychiatric brain wirings. https://www.bing.com/search?q=marijuana+site%3Aschizophrenia.com Which means that (((Soros))) was knowingly funding Marijuana legalization so as to drive the at-risk fully into violent uncontrollable insanity. These are the kinds of… Read more »

Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

(((Netflix, porn, weed, and rap music)))Basically it’s succeeded in turning young white men into soft, mentally weak, depressed, and passive sheep. Speaking of the greater War Against Boys… My first guess is that “netflix, porn, weed, and rap music” are largely the province of boys being raised by single mothers [or young men who were raised by single mothers] – my guess is that most boys being raised in houses ruled by fathers are not allowed access to those poisons. Or at least that’s my hope. My second guess would be that the psychological cruelty of viciously passive-aggressive female teachers,… Read more »

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  Herbert Marcuse
4 years ago

That’s why I’m an 8th-grade teacher. Gotta help the kids stay based.
Even though I make a bit more than the average teacher, it’s not a high-paying job. Lots of libby ladies with sugar daddies and rich husbands poisoning minds.

nailheadtom
Reply to  Herbert Marcuse
4 years ago

From the beginning of homo sapiens’ tour on the earth until the day after tomorrow teen-age males have been the number one problem for all societies. That’s where conflict between families, clans, tribes and nations arise. It’s better to send hyper-testosterone destructive males after the neighbors than try to limit their damage around the house. Battles throughout history have been fought between masses of 20 year-olds, not middle-aged women or old men. Not so long ago, fathers encouraged their sons to stand up for their own rights and not take any crap from anybody. This is now passe’. Daddy and… Read more »

Gunner Q
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

Young white men are openly hated, formally discriminated against, betrayed routinely by every leader of every institution, lied to about women and must compete against illegal immigrants for jobs.

But the REAL problem with them is they use porn and music to cope instead of killing sprees..?

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

Lanky – God bless your little White son. Stay strong for him; try to provide him with whatever future you can.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

I am very grateful for that, 3g. God bless your family, too. Being a dad is the best thing ever, even in these dark times.

B125
B125
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

Any advice for finding a white wife?

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

Hahaha. Met her in school. I made her laugh, I did well in class, and I was her type. Mixture of luck and skill.
Basically, be good and something publicly and don’t take anything too seriously (I think).

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Inesta
Inesta
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

She was impressed by your teaching skills?

Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

Any advice for finding a white wife? I used to think that intelligence was the rarest quality in a woman, but now I know that the rarest quality of all is actually the innate Inner Moral Compass. No woman fully possesses it – all women are innately amoral – but there’s a bell curve to their amorality, and you want to be targetting the ones at the far Right end of the bell curve [for amorality] – the ones who almost “get it” regarding morality – as the Mother of Your Children candidates. After the innate Inner Moral Compass, I… Read more »

TomA
TomA
4 years ago

Endless commenting on societal dysfunction is also a form of escapism. There is value in being the canary in the coal mine, but disgust alone won’t put food on the table. Hard times are both overdue and the necessary corrective. Role up your sleeves and meet the future head-on. Go dark, move to a safer environment, get fit, stock the larder, practice your aim, and if you don’t already have one, develop a root skill that may be of value to others.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

As usual, well said.

nailheadtom
4 years ago

Watched a little football on the idiot box yesterday and between the players in the game and the advertising that dominated it I began to wonder how ended up in Nairobi without leaving the house.

B125
B125
Reply to  nailheadtom
4 years ago

Nairobi but with beautiful white women.

Remember that ads show the future they have planned for us.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
4 years ago

The people around the Pretender Biden are not interested in the colored revolution. They just want to steal as much as they can before it is too late. 

This would indicate to me the Establishment Left, or at least this particular sector, is the most realistic of the lot. The looting stage of a dying empire starts with those who run it and ends with those who invade it to pick up the scraps. These massive “stimulus” bills are the vehicle to get what can be got. Literal house to house looting will commence once it all crashes down.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

The real base of the Democratic Party are public employee unions. They are a significant fraction of the voting public, always show up and are the floor soldiers of corruption.

They’re motto is. Fuck you pay me! Not Workers of the world Unite!

Falcone
Falcone
4 years ago

And let’s not forget the other human fantasy, that life will and should fall into a pattern whereby the world around us is assumed to change noticeably on 12-month annual intervals, that a new year will bring change. My life has never worked that way. Calendar time is just an arbitrary construct. Sometimes things happen in phases that happen over multiple years or even months when things change dramatically. As far as I can tell in aspects of public life, life has not been or returned to “normal” since 9/11.

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B125
B125
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

Time is time. It doesn’t really exist, we break it up into increments to make sense of it. (Yeah I know it can be proved with quantum physics but we don’t know much about that realm).

“Enjoy high school!” “Your 20s are the best years of your life” “can’t wait for retirement!” “Wow these are the golden years” – oops they end up as a rotting corpse nonetheless, wasting time obsessing about meaningless upcoming milestones.

This boomer progression is rapidly dying anyways.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  B125
4 years ago

Time is strange. The older I get the more I realize it. Sometimes it’s sideways, flat like a pancake, sometimes up and down, there are folds in it that remain hidden then reappear, memories of those times are uneven, etc. And there are things that happen that are outside of time seemingly; you may be able to identify their occurrence on a calendar, but they seem totally detached from other larger events of that same time. I was surprised that an old friend I had who just died, that our friendship came to be during Obama’s first year; it seemed… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Falcone
4 years ago

The year 536 is probably the worst “year” in recorded history. The darkness lasted 18 months. Followed by the plague.

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SamlAdams
SamlAdams
4 years ago

The last four years feel like the house gutting exercise we did fifteen years ago. All the 100 year old red brass plumbing, knob and tube wiring, water damage from 50 year old leaks, termite damage…all painfully visible. And had to be dealt with. Likewise, our kleptocracy has been stripped bare plus several trillion of debt has been piled on. Reckoning will come.

Jacques Lebeau
Member
4 years ago

The political fantasy is only one of many that is set to collapse. The economic fantasy — that the government can borrow and spend infinite amounts to produce very little — can[t go on much longer. Nor can the fantasy that all people are created exactly equal. Nor can the fantasy that automation creates as many or more jobs than are lost to robots, AI etc. The list of fantasies that shape our lives is a long one. When the sad truth begins to show through the cracks and holes in the Fantasy Wall, I would bet we are in… Read more »

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skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  Jacques Lebeau
4 years ago

Some other fantasies:
Renewable energy can power a modern economy reliably and inexpensively.
Negroes can fill in for whites in keeping the system going.
The US military can effectively intervene while become a sandbox for social justice.
People are simply differently colored Lego bricks that can be snapped together to form any social configuration desired.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

Upvoted for the Lego metaphor. Nice.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

I think it captures the situation better than alternative “paintjob” theory.

Jacques Lebeau
Member
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

Fantasies 2 and 4 in your list are corollaries of the fantasy that all people are created exactly equal. We are on exactly the same page there. I also agree about renewable energy and the hopeless degradation of the US military, and western militaries in general. And the list of fantasy bubbles that are ready to be popped just goes on and on.If a lot of them go “pop” at once, it is going to be a strange and violent awakening for millions. I have to confess, I am distinctly apprehensive about 2021.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Jacques Lebeau
4 years ago

. The economic fantasy — that the government can borrow and spend infinite amounts to produce very little — can[t go on much longer. As I wrote earlier, this is one delusion the Establishment Left does not share with the general population. Hence, the current looting of the financial sector of the United States is similar to all end stage empires of the past. This also is why the Establishment Left will start a new war under the banner of helping Our Greatest Ally–to plunder even more. The Establishment Left does share with the general population the delusion the United States… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

From Z’s Taki piece:Trump was always an IQ test. The stupid either hated him unconditionally or loved him unconditionally. Now an army of dim-witted ronin will be roaming the countryside looking for a new master.
Goes good with this piece.
I obviously had an easier time dealing with those who had an irrational love of Trump rather than an irrational hate, but it was still off-putting.

Based5.0
Based5.0
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

Holy crap, that’s a good line. Actually laughed out loud. I’m off to Taki to read the whole thing.

“Army of dim-witted ronin.” Repeating it just makes me smile.

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Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
4 years ago

Especially since Trumpism is mashup of Bill Clinton and Dick Gephardt’s policies from the late 80s-early 90s (before the dems were fully assimilated into globe-homo).

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
4 years ago

Exactly. And this is why I could never understand the dems’ hatred towards him. Why not be happy with 90% of what they would have wanted and got anyway; instead they went full bore to destroy him and everything around him and with that the Republic. How is this better? I know, I know, the Constitutional Republic was already in trouble, etc., still, it ain’t the same, even a smidgeon of legitimacy is gone now. What a catastrophe!

Major Lamp Light
Major Lamp Light
Reply to  tonaludatus
4 years ago

Exactly. And this is why I could never understand the dems’ hatred towards him. Trump is hated by the left because they see him as the champion of Whites and the working class. The left hated Nixon due to his Southern Strategy but voted Biden due to his BLM Strategy. W. Bush was from Texas, so we got lots of anit-cowboy /anti-rural movies & television shows in the 00s: The Simple Life, Wrong Turn, Brokeback Mountain, etc. The South voted Regan in the 80s, so we got Mississippi Burning from Hollywood. The South voted Nixon in the 70s, so we… Read more »

dinothedoxie
dinothedoxie
Reply to  Major Lamp Light
4 years ago

Democrats hated Nixon long before he ever conceived of the Southern Strategy.

Major Lamplight
Major Lamplight
Reply to  dinothedoxie
4 years ago

It certainly took off after he got elected. Same with Trump. Same with W. Bush. All are good or bad based on whose side they are on, and the left certainly lets us know about it through the culture. LBJ is president: multiple television shows and movies about confederates. Nixon is elected: Deliverance. Roots was planned before Carter assumed office, back when Ford, hated for pardoning Nixon, was president. Jimmy Carter is elected: Confederate flags and Dukes of Hazard. Reagan dog whistles to Mississippi voters during the 1980 presidential campaign, which he later won: Mississippi Burning, Driving Miss Daisy, Southern… Read more »

Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
Reply to  Major Lamp Light
4 years ago

They are simply bigots who hate or love things based on whether they think that thing has some loyalty to their tribe. They seek revenge when they lose elections. It shows up in movies, television, and politics.

(((They))) are simply bigots who hate or love things based on whether (((they))) think that thing has some loyalty to (((their tribe))). (((They))) seek revenge when (((they))) lose elections. It shows up in (((movies, television, and politics))).

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  tonaludatus
4 years ago

Precisely.

dinothedoxie
dinothedoxie
Reply to  tonaludatus
4 years ago

IMO The hatred to Trump is personal and driven by two factors.

1st he’s a caricature of an alpha male – which is hopelessly anachronistic in this feminized era. Worse, it highlights the emasculation of male “leaders” in comparison. Which they find intolerable.

2nd he made a huge point of calling the establishment stupid and incompetent and loser. Which down deep they all know to be true and so hate him for pointing out the reality

DLS
DLS
Reply to  tonaludatus
4 years ago

They love JFK, despite the fact that he was to the right of Reagan. They are not self-aware people.

Major Lamp Light
Major Lamp Light
Reply to  DLS
4 years ago

There is no contradiction. The right bases its behavior on philosophies. The left acts based on naked self-interest and is willing to lie about it and change policies when it suits them. The right finds this mystifying, so they think the left are hypocrites … but they aren’t, not really. >JFK was on the left’s side in terms of tribal loyalty = he was good, regardless of philosophy. >Reagan was on “the other’s” side = he was bad, regardless of philosophy. Most of American culture since 1960 has been like this. The elite positions themselves against this other, changing their… Read more »

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
4 years ago

Got to thinking about the West Point cheating and the cheaters that are going to be excused. I know scores of USMA graduates. They take pride in living up to their motto, which says they won’t cheat. I know a current two-star who is enraged about it.

An exercise for the reader:
A number of cadets have been caught cheating
They are going to be excused and allowed to retain their commissions
It was a math exam

Query: What color were the cadets?

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  The Right Doctor
4 years ago

It has been thoroughly documented dat maff be rayciss and sheet.
By the way, several months ago the WaPo had a story on military officials and officers who told the public how great things were going in Afghanistan while privately admitting it was a clusterfuck. Is this what rises to the top in the US military? We are supposed to believe that they ridk their lives to defend our freedom but not their careers, pensions or post-military gigs with defense contractors, think tanks or the media?

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  The Right Doctor
4 years ago

When you allow cheating on the basis of race, allowing murder isn’t far off.

Our society is comically gay. Are they aware of just how thoroughly fucking stupid they are, objectively speaking?

Lanky
Lanky
4 years ago

How long before house-to-house looting commences?
Please don’t tell me that it has already started. Because it hasn’t — at least not in the suburbs.
I’m asking because I’m almost out of the suburban north. I just need six more months. Six…more…months…

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

The serious looting is underway in the pork-laden “stimulus” bills and the cratering and salvaging of the financial sector, sometimes both within a matter of days. The house to house stuff will follow once everything that can be milked has been milked.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 years ago

That happened with a combination of instituting Dodd-Frank, repealing Glass-Steagal, and general Fed fuckery. How many folks know that the Fed has a trading desk? How many know that it’s illegal for the Fed to buy Treasury Bills at auction, but not to buy them minutes later from banks that have been convicted of multiple felonies?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  RoBG
4 years ago

White just a few bucks, I personally benefitted when Jerome Powell handed off the bond buying spree to (((Blackrock))). What happened there would not withstand a nanosecond of scrutiny. As a matter of fact, it puts a new spin on an old cliché’: it is too corrupt to fail. Long story short, (((Blackrock))) was allowed to shore up its junk bond funds, and Powell was heavily invested in them. Some Senate Democrats, who wisely opposed Powell, remained silent over it and my assumption is they were given the heads up and bought into these junk bond funds as they imploded,… Read more »

MikeCLT
MikeCLT
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

The real looting will be when they destroy your school district through busing or some other diversity initiative.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  MikeCLT
4 years ago

That happened years ago. I used to live in Palm Beach Gardens FL. FL runs schools at the county level so there is a lot more potential for busing since city lines are not a factor. We had a nice high school just down the street that was unusable because of the diversity that was bussed in.

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

turning your savings into shit a la the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela is looting

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  tonaludatus
4 years ago

But it doesn’t represent a tangible threat against my life. I can survive — for better or worse — loss of savings. I cannot survive the loss of shelter. I know, I know; one begets the other. But I have a list of “if-thens” for the former situation. There’s not much to do in the latter.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
4 years ago

Reality is gonna punch alot of delusional motherfuckers in the face once the dollar shits the bed. Comphy assholes with big lettuce in the bank will start shitting their pants….the guy in the tent eating cat food won’t seem so funny. Trump was a canary in the mine, all talk, no balls. The real ass kickers show up when destiny demands it.

Xman
Xman
4 years ago

The fantasy ends when the Ponzi scheme economy collapses. One of the most blatant signs of collapse — and the one most often overlooked — is the fact that in 2000, our national debt was $5 trillion and we had an annual surplus. Today our national debt is pushing $30 trillion and this year’s deficit alone is $3 trillion. I remember how people freaked out in 1987 when the Dow “collapsed” from 2,500 down to 2,000. Today the Dow is trading over 30,000. Equity overvaluations have been driven almost entirely by Zero Interest Rate Policy and tax deferments through IRAs… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Xman
4 years ago

They’ve been driven buy money printing, buybacks and the fact that the Fed is buying securities with the money they print. BTW: NOBODY VOTED FOR THIS.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Xman
4 years ago

I agree with most of what you say, but the Dems no longer need illegals when they can simply create fake ballots without fear of punishment.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Xman
4 years ago

There has been no “annual surplus” since 1958.
Why people parrot this easily exposed lie is beyond me,
Sheer, ignorant, gullible, stupidity I guess.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Bilejones
4 years ago

Yes, we’ve heard you state this—and perhaps soundly—before, but the way the official measures were computed then indicated such. In any event, the time referenced, *2000*, was a reasonable low point in deficit spending that is not unreasonable to point to.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  CompscI
4 years ago

The original source is the US Treasury Dept.
They have a hundred plus years of history easy to find on line,
The lie was originally spawned by the Left to make Clinton look good. Their lies should never be allowed to go uncorrected.
“‘My other piece of advice, Copperfield,’ said Mr. Micawber, ‘you know. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds nought and six, result misery.”
As People who go bankrupt know, there is all the difference in the world between deficit spending and a surplus.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
4 years ago

Look at almost any internet discussion about Elon Musk. It is dominated by fanbois. I think Musk’s team is to be congratulated for demonstrating a reusable rocket but the rest of Musk’s accomplishments are quite dubious. In particular, his idea about martian colonies is nonsensical. I understand how fanatical techies might work on it or even believe it but I can’t explain the investors who sink money into an idea that has no rational purpose and can’t possibly be profitable. Personally, I think it is probably covertly funded by DARPA for some kind of pentagon program like Howard Hughes “Glomar… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

Paypal is still the most useful enterprise Musk has been involved in creating.

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

no idea if it will ever become a real business or who would really fund such venture but it is an astonishing engineering achievement.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

Why is his stock valued where it is?

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  RoBG
4 years ago

The stock market is propped up by Fed. For now.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

I can’t explain the investors who sink money into an idea that has no rational purpose and can’t possibly be profitable.

Never heard of the Greater Fool Theory?

Major Lamp Light
Major Lamp Light
Reply to  skeptic16
4 years ago

Elon Musk is a government-made creation. He’s America’s response to state-backed Chinese companies. Musk proposes something redundant (rocket travel) but over promises with fanciful science-fiction claims to the public, backed with favorable interviews –> this is used as a cover to corner the market and develop new technolgies + attrack investors so these companies don’t look government-backed –> government finances his company through various covert means –> Musk becomes a billionaire that’s willing to back the government’s play –> he hires only Americans for much of what he does, unlike private companies, thus keeping the jobs and tech here –>… Read more »

Not Sure
Not Sure
4 years ago

We have dope and video games. Dr. Fauci and Billy Gates love me and want to keep me safe just like mommygov. People who work in government do so for the good of the collective and the media would never lie to me. The all genders welcome bathroom sign (hecho en China) is sporty but the edges are sharp and we need a warning sign on the side. Loveable Ol’ Uncle Joe will charge up my EBT card because we’re all in this together, comrade. Let’s get some unity crackalackin’ down at the stripmall as there is a special on… Read more »

tashtego
Member
4 years ago

In reference to your taki essay Z , I imagine nothing much will happen domestically until something big happens with China. I start with the assumption that the CCP has a goal of destroying US influence in their immediate neighborhood. If you grant that premise, a dementia joe and willy brown’s hoe admin seems like a golden opportunity to strike. Our leadership class is manifestly weak and contemptible. On the other hand a terribly handled peer-war may be the catalyst needed to inspire some kind of revolt and overthrow of the criminals and parasites holding all the commanding heights in… Read more »

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  tashtego
4 years ago

China and India nearly came to War over the Himalayas this summer. Their troops fought with shovels and knives as I understand it with the Chinese besting the Indians at close to 18,000 feet. China wants/needs the Himalayan watershed and thats the death blow for India. So China-backed Joe vs. Kamala the choice of Silicon Valley Guptas. A farcical yet deadly mirror to the confrontation on the roof of the world. Neither can allow their rival to gain control over the White House and each would be tempted to do anything control America’s military force against the other. Its like… Read more »

druid144
druid144
4 years ago

I believe that core Americans, blacks as well as white, are the same stock as their parents’ or grandparents’ generations. The difference is what they’ve been taught at school, and to a lesser extent by their screens. (I am in the UK; we are one small stumble away from children denouncing their parents to the commissars.) You must wrest back control of your children’s education. Sort out your school boards and get good headteachers, start your own schools, home-schooling, whatever. In the next few months, enough of the election night antics will leak out that people are going to have… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  druid144
4 years ago

In many ways, America is in a period of confusion that comes with mass immigration. I believe something similar happened in the Ellis Island era. Add to it the confusion borne of too long a period of domestic peace. We are probably going to see a schism where whites go one way in terms of their educational priorities for their kids (private, home school) and the mass of new arrivals glom onto the public option as it were. Two Americas, for sure. But if a war breaks out and all of these new arrivals are asked to go fight and… Read more »

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  druid144
4 years ago

I’d say it’s to a greater extent their screens.

Angarrack
Angarrack
Reply to  druid144
4 years ago

If you’re in the UK then you must know the government is weak and literally believes that rhetoric is a sufficient basis for governance.
Slogons, Think Tanks, Royal Commissions, Roll-outs and then…
nothing. They don’t enforce their proclamations.
British politics is a bad joke but ,for now, it is thankfully a joke.

JustaProle
JustaProle
4 years ago

I’m hoping the Q psyop ends with a big, “Haha you dolts”

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  JustaProle
4 years ago

The fact that “Q” hasn’t been exposed should tell anybody with two of the little-grey-cells firing who’s behind the Op.

David Wright
Member
4 years ago

Maybe the members of the Justice League will right all wrongs for us. A great man like Tony Stark is what we need.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

Well, I’d say Clinton is definitely a peter parker

tonaludatus
tonaludatus
Reply to  Lanky
4 years ago

both Clintons?

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

The rise of the comic book movie is yet another indictment of our culture. The Simpsons, Family Guy, King of the Hill etc are all indictments of our culture. Popeye, the Flintstones etc made into movies.

Is it really any surprise that in a world with all these cartoons as mainstream culture, we got abominations like a mental patient running a state health department because of their mental health condition?

Just keep all this mind the next time some neckbeard starts trashing Christianity and talking about sky daddies.

Liberty Mike
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Tranny as No.1 Nurse Nanny.

Major Lamp Light
Major Lamp Light
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

Tony Stark was replaced by a sassy 15 year-old black woman in the comics. Thor was replaced by a White woman who wanted people to “ask her about her feminist agenda” and Nick Furry is a black guy. DC is making Batman black, and they already made a White, redheaded Batwoman a black lesbian; Spider-Man is a black guy in the newest Sony Spider-Man game; Starlord was made bisexual to spite Chris Pratt; Wonder Woman was brought in to endorse AOC in a special election year issue where they celebrated RBG and Elizabeth Warren; Spider-Man endorsed Barack Obama when he… Read more »

Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  David Wright
4 years ago

Lol

gilgongo
gilgongo
4 years ago

Fantasy politics will not end until fantasy politicians are hung. There must be consequences for the grift.

Whiskey
Whiskey
4 years ago

Looks like the Woke are in full attack mode. Data points: The Vagina Monologues have been canceled because trannies object. Hillary Baldwin (Alec’s wife, he is the world’s greatest actor!) has been canceled for larping as a Mestizo. The driving force is the ambitious but stupid people of color who need to push out the old guard to gain power and income. They are targeting the liberal old guard first. Eve Ensler, and now Alec Baldwin. That is … interesting as it suggests he’s utterly dispensable now. And that even liberal White men have no real power compared to the… Read more »

Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
Member
Reply to  Whiskey
4 years ago

I posted this comment on a car magazine story singing hosannas about the glory of the electric car “revolution.” The responses by so-called “enthusiasts” were illogical and insulting. How can a glorified, sound-free golf cart be exciting for the driver? How can the grid handle millions of these chargers? I will never own or drive an EV and if our idiotic ruling class demands these for everyone, they can pry the keys of my ICE vehicle from my cold, dead fingers. EVs are a ticket to serfdom. It’s sickening that C&D is pushing this EV propaganda, because EVs will be the… Read more »

TammyFan
TammyFan
4 years ago

I haven’t given up on Trump, yet. What keeps Pence from rejecting the Demonrat slate of electors and accepting the Trump electors from the swing states? This boils down to: Is Pence a traitor ? It could come down to a House vote by state delegations. Why would Trump replace Barr & Esper if something wasn’t up? The Pentagon is no longer supporting CIA operations. The almost empty Guantanamo Bay was greatly expanded. Special Operations Command now bypasses the service chiefs and reports to Chris Miller. Trump is not acting like he’s about to leave office.

skeptic16
skeptic16
Member
Reply to  TammyFan
4 years ago

If there is a photo of Pence at the Wailing Wall, you have your answer. It is a reliable litmus test of where their loyalties lie.

K80
K80
Reply to  TammyFan
4 years ago

Tammy I agree with you. It isnt over yet but its damn close. I respect our host and the majority of the commentators here so its uncomfortable for me to see people I agree with on practically everything call President Trump a fraud and idiot. That said I come here to keep my expectations in check and enjoy the opinions. I agree with the idea if it goes to Biden and Trump taps out I will have some major issues to deal with. Have you guys ever considered how you will feel if Trump pulls this off? Humor me……… How… Read more »

TammyFan
TammyFan
Reply to  K80
4 years ago

God Bless You !

Rich
Member
Reply to  K80
4 years ago

I think you’re overly optimistic, but if he pulls out all the stops to keep his job, and succeeds, I’ll be found with guns loaded and popcorn in the microwave.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Rich
4 years ago

I’d love for it to happen, but it would be mostly entertainment value.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  K80
4 years ago

My take is that Trump was cheated but that if that’s the kind of government we have where most everyone in it is willing to cheat, then why even take part in it? If it is in fact that corrupt then there is ZERO chance in fixing it. For Trump or anyone else. And in light of that, what good is Trump really going to do? Have everyone arrested? Who’s going to do that? Bottom line, as long as there are lot of blacks in government and in society, as long as someone like George Floyd has as much say… Read more »

Lawisdead
Lawisdead
Reply to  K80
4 years ago

I’ll see you in DC KC80, just don’t be an unrequited martyr for Trump, and know what awaits you if you even have to defend yourself from Antifa.

K80
K80
Reply to  Lawisdead
4 years ago

Glad to hear from you Lawisdead.
Hope you get in and out with no issues.
I cant read the words “Anitfa” without remembering the PB chants of “Fuck Antifa”.
Good stuff.

Beetle McTurk
Beetle McTurk
Reply to  TammyFan
4 years ago

“I haven’t given up on Trump, yet.”

Then you cannot be helped.

Last edited 4 years ago by Beetle McTurk
Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
4 years ago

Fantasy reality is conjured in the crucible of media. The thought bandit (tv) is the crack pipe of the fantasy addict. The media is the Mandelbrot Set of false narratives. Breaching this false narrative will get one evicted from the twilight zone of Woke World, Inc., where we discover the movie screen of empty space alive with the perceptions of the universe of one, the source of all happiness.

If you’re not happy, it’s not real.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
4 years ago

In nearly 300 comments so far, everyone claims to KNOW that Trump is defeated and finished. And yet, we are aware of some realities: We KNOW Trump won a historic landslide; we also know there was historic vote fraud to swing the election; and we know the country is sharply divided between those who support Trump very strongly and those who hate him (and us). What we DON’T KNOW is what’s going to happen on January 20th. Go ahead. Laugh. In the meantime, we wait.

Last edited 4 years ago by Jim Smith
Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  Jim Smith
4 years ago

Covert operations are just that – covert.

Hamsumnutter
Hamsumnutter
Reply to  Jim Smith
4 years ago

There’s no place like home, there’s no place like home, there’s no place like home …

Beetle McTurk
Beetle McTurk
Reply to  Jim Smith
4 years ago

Yeah! Just like those people who KNOW the World isn’t going to end next Tuesday at 11:00! Boy, won’t THEY feel stupid! Just wait!

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
4 years ago

Trump served his purpose. He’s been a liability for two years. I would have preferred that he would have gone at least three or four while moving the ball in our direction. Clearly the writing was on the wall at the half way point. Nonetheless he did move the Overton window in the right direction through his rhetoric. Even if it was only a few inches. The omnibus bill yesterday was a case in point of how Congress found out he was full of shit after the failed shutdown and had been calling his bluff ever since.

Falcone
Falcone
4 years ago

The new fantasy may be those wishing to see it all burned to the ground vs those desiring to preserve the status quo, fire vs ice, Mercury vs Neptune

Violent storm on the horizon

David
4 years ago

they cannot accept that this is the result of a deeply corrupt system that is beyond reform.

I dont think anyone believes in government. Almost a hundred million americans dont vote each election. Most of us on these dissident sites had nothing to say about politics before trump and we can go back to ignoring it.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  David
4 years ago

I got sucked into politics because I could devote maybe 10% of my brain to it while working my butt off for like 25 years and putting 90% of my best energies into that. It was a way to fill in the cracks when not working but also not giving too much of my energies to it. A small hobby I guess. Now that I am winding down my work life, I am looking forward to devoting my best energies to something new. And politics is not going to be even a small part of it. How I was as… Read more »

SonnoJoi
SonnoJoi
4 years ago

ZMan wrote: For them, Trump is the king of the boomers, who refused to accept the red-pill. Deeply hypocritical for you to write this. Remember 2019? You sang a different song: Then there is the more personal aspect of it. In terms of popular culture, Trump really is the quintessential Baby Boomer male. He made a lot of money, but will never have much to show for his time. Everything about Trump is wrapped up Trump the person, the selfish, boorish oaf living for the moment. When the wife got too old, he traded her in for a new one.… Read more »

SonnoJoi
SonnoJoi
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Obviously you are lying. You can’t do better than this? All of the traits in both definitions of the Boomer are notoriously and obviously typical of their sort: the self-indulgent hedonism you rightly noted in 2019 and the conservitard civnat idiocy I and the dissident rightists you deceitfully pan in this post are BOTH essential elements of one observable human type: one stains their private lives and the other stains their public ones, but it is all characteristic of the same people. (You might as well claim that the word “Muslim” refers to two different types of religious persons when… Read more »

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

I hear hoofbeats. Unicorn hypergamy bearing down on logos with massive sh🤡t test. Take that, patriarchy.

Lanky
Lanky
Reply to  SonnoJoi
4 years ago

Relatively speaking, how are boomers hedonist? Yen for pleasure and yen for comfort are not the same things.
I don’t even think you’re serious. Maybe the minders are trying to see how to best get Z’s goat.

WJ0216
WJ0216
Reply to  SonnoJoi
4 years ago

HRC and Tim Kane promised a strong intervention in Syria, basically meaning we were going to war with Russia. Trump only lobbed a few missiles and did nothing else. He started no new wars. All good things that would have been reversed if HRC would have won. He also did not sign a sweeping amnesty deal that HRC promised to give us in the first 100 days of her admin had she won. A very good thing. He failed us by not winning re-election but 2024 is still coming and who knows who the dems would have had in store… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  WJ0216
4 years ago

Who “gave” away the Golan Heights?

Whiskey
Whiskey
4 years ago

As I wait for approval, two fantasies I note are:

  1. Woke being able to rule even as well as the corrupt crowd around Biden/the Clintons.
  2. Electric Cars.

Both are likely to be as disastrous as a Sioux Ghost Dance.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Whiskey
4 years ago

Dude, don’t harsh my buzz, I make a ton of money on TSLA options!

(Yes, I know this all ends in tears.)

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
4 years ago

The American people by and large will strain to not see that the system doesn’t work and the media will be in a constant gas lighting mode telling us 24/7 that this was an honest election and we just need to vote more next time. Mike Pence is the answer. Yea Mike Pence!! That is where they are going. But more will see their way over to this side of the divide. Which is good in the long run. As for the alt right and their God Emperor and Boomer games? I got no idea what their narrative will morph… Read more »

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KGB
KGB
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
4 years ago

We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese… erm, Mike Pence!

Dave Ryder
Dave Ryder
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

Upvoted for the reference. You’re a man of high culture.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Dave Ryder
4 years ago

My god, is it really you, Dave Ryder??

Steve in PA
Steve in PA
4 years ago

On the one hand, I am buoyed by the truth that God governs in the affairs of man, sets up kings and takes them down. On the other hand I am utterly depressed by the truth that God governs in the affairs of man, sets up kings and takes them down. Interesting times, no doubt ahead.

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
4 years ago

Maybe it’s the beer talking, but this seems to be a perfect time to join arms with like-minded people in Europe. They know that we’ve suffered the election hoax, and we’re both still suffering from the Covid hoax. If we could somehow use these event to ally with our European brothers to form something of a unified US/Canadian/European resistance, or common declaration, that would give us some hope that we’re not entirely at the mercy of our Rulers. I know … probably naive, but just venting my spleen a bit.

Arcadian
Arcadian
4 years ago

“In the wake of George Floyd’s death in Minneapolis, the summer of 2020 produced riots the extent of which rivaled the week after the murder of Martin Luther King in 1968.”

It is pap like this that makes Tacky mag a place to click away from.

Bilejones
Member
4 years ago

Typo?

When the reality of Trump turned out to not be something other than the rise of the god-emperor,

Double negative here that you probably didn’t intend,

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Bilejones
4 years ago

I think Z has it correct

“not be something” = something other than

When they found Trump to be something other than the God Emperor they…

IOW they had been hoping he’d be their God Emperor, but they later learned he wasn’t.

How I read it anyway

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago
ABCer
ABCer
4 years ago

MAGA won’t have Trump tin foil to wrap head with either.

I can pun on; more like Triple Twitching hour.

Still these Protestants Kingdom has always been of this world, their true religion Law, and their various political arrangements. They aren’t taking the toppling of the last gods very well.

Not.One.Little.Bit.

The last time this happened to Protestants is when the Second Reich fell.

No one believed what they did next, because no one could believe it.

Old Knight
Old Knight
4 years ago

Steve Turley is as optimistic as ever.

Hilltop
Hilltop
Reply to  Old Knight
4 years ago

I really don’t know if he believes his own bullshit or not.

I find his videos fascinating for that reason (and only that reason.)

Jill
Jill
4 years ago

“….The people still convinced that Trump will make some last-minute move to deny Biden the election are delusional…They are now like a UFO cult waiting for January 6th to see the prophesy revealed.”

I agree with this, but I am puzzled about why Trump is calling everyone to DC on the 6th. Why bring everyone in just to lose?

KeepTheChange
KeepTheChange
4 years ago

This post is going the way of the Dodo-bird, but one last thought is that I do believe that different peoples can co-exist in basic harmony. But it’s (((the agitators))) that compel this arrangement under duress of charges of racism that need to be condemned. This minority group, which has the highest household income in the USA, dons it’s “oppressed mask” to tell all other minorities that they should be angry at the majority (White people) for holding them back (classic Cultural Marxism). But how is it that (((they))) have not been held back by the White majority?? Such hypocrisy… Read more »