Sad And Angry

Popular revolts in occidental countries tend to build slowly and then have a series of tremors before there is some clarifying event. The reason for this is people unhappy with their conditions tend to look for simple answers first and then apply themselves to getting relief from the system within the rules. They identify the problem or what they think is the problem and then go to the people in charge with it. In modern liberal democracy it means engaging in the political process.

Then either by serendipity or a confluence of events driven by various actors, there is an event that causes the scales to fall from the eyes of the people. In isolation, the attack on the Bastille was a non-event, but in the context of the historical moment, it was revelatory. The 1980 strike at Gdańsk Shipyard in Poland is a more modern example of a small event ushering in a paradigm shift. People thought one way before the event and they thought a different way after it.

Events this week will prove to be one of those times where people quickly went from one view of their world to another. There have been many left-wing and wingless protests in Washington. Just a few years ago the Left filled the Capitol with protestors over the Kavanaugh nomination. Those come and go and they are forgotten because they have no connection to larger trends under the surface. It is just part of the way the inner party torments the outer party in Washington.

The storming of the Capitol opened a lot of eyes. The people in the media demanding mass executions of Trump supporters were just six months ago gloating over left-wing mobs burning cities. Six months ago, official Washington was telling us the cops were a problem and now they are demanding they open fire on protestors. When a black criminal died in police custody, they demanded vengeance. When a white veteran is murdered by a cop on video, they think it great fun.

This week has been clarifying, because it has confirmed what people have been slowly realizing at a subconscious level. The manufactured outrage of George Floyd would have passed unnoticed, if it had not been followed by the orchestrated campaign by corporate America to promote hostility to white people. If that had passed, then people may have forgotten about it, but that was quickly followed by the Covid lock downs and then the election fraud. The road to epiphany now seems clear.

Many on this side of the great divide have predicted we would end up at this point eventually, but no one has every relished it. The events of this week were not just an epiphany for the MAGA-hat wearing normies. It has been an eye-opener for many on this side, as well. Unless you have something wrong with you, you held out some small hope that the prediction would turn out to be wrong. That hope is gone now and with it comes a bit of sadness over the finality of it.

There’s nothing wrong with that. In a way, it is like the passing of an old relation who has been sick for a long time. Long ago you reconciled yourself to the inevitable and in your own way said your goodbyes. The waiting, however, becomes part of your normal so when the time comes there is a hole. Into it flows the remaining sadness at the finality of it all. That’s where we are now. What comes next is getting on with the new tribal politics of the future, free of nostalgia and sentimentality.

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This Week’s Show

Contents

  • 00:00: Opening
  • 02:00: Sad And Angry
  • 22:00: Strangers  (Link) (Link)
  • 37:00: The China Syndrome (Link)
  • 47:00: Reality Never Dies (Link)
  • 57:00: Closing  (Be Like Me)

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whitney
Member
15 days ago

It is sad. I took down my Christmas decorations yesterday because epiphany is over and when I thought about next year it all seemed so uncertain

Marko
Marko
Reply to  whitney
15 days ago

I was quite bummed after the election. Even a cynic like myself did not expect the open fraud, and moreso did not expect so many people to dismiss fraud claims outright and support the system. Then comes the righteous and wonderful storming of the capitol, which was ridiculous but it should bring a smile to most people’s faces. Alas, it brought cries of terrorism, and many defending that pig cop. I’m saddened and amazed that more people don’t realize what this is leading to. I really hope that Z is right and there’s a populist uprising in waiting, that we’re… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Marko
15 days ago

The mask worship and Church of Anti-Racism were the tell for me. That degree of psychological damage, particularly among young White women, is irreversible.

theRussians
theRussians
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
14 days ago

Getting awoman to think on a cultural/historical level… What would that world look like? (so beautiful) the 15%that can are the most attractive girls I’ve ever met.

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Jack Dobson
14 days ago

Women have no business in public life. In a way, this is our fault. Rights rights rights adn more rights. Here a right, there a right.
While there are rights that people have, they dont change. We didn’t discover a right for wives to politically compete with their husbands In the attic somewhere.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Marko
15 days ago

What’s bothered me is the rush to pin it on antifa and essentially give them the win. Liars will lie about you, snakes will stab you in the back. At some point you have to embrace the suck and stop trying to win the argument. (And yes I was concerned about optics when it was about not inviting nazi comparisons. Now there are martyrs.) Happily it looks like the average MAGA type is willing. So-called leadership, political, media, or otherwise, not so much. After his vow to punish the Capitol stormers, Trump is another Benedict Arnold as far as I’m… Read more »

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Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Paintersforms
15 days ago

Trump’s vow to punish the stormers was to be expected.He has a very bad habit of throwing his supporters under the bus because he’s a coward and fraud at heart.
We saw it in San Jose, the deplatforming of conservative sites, the relentless attacks by Antifa goons on his supporters. Lets not forget how he purged his staff of nationalists and replaced them with swamp rats.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Rwc1963
15 days ago

Sad but true. He’d been wearing me down since Charlottesville but that was the last straw.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  Rwc1963
15 days ago

I was hopeful but skeptical about Trump mainly because of a blatantly and shamelessly mercenary thing I saw him do on his Celebrity Appreciate show. I watched one season since it had several interesting “contestants”. One was Clay Aiken who, being a relatively normal kind of guy, pretty much blew the other clowns out of the water in terms of the stated goals of the contest (raising money for charity and herding ego driven cats to the task at hand). At the end the choice was between Aiken and Arsenio Hall, who literally dindu nuffin during the course of the… Read more »

Reply to  Peabody
14 days ago

If it weren’t for bad character, he’d have no character at all.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Peabody
14 days ago

I watched the first three or four seasons of the apprentice before I got bored with it. And the two biggest ale always for me where that:

Trump at a fundamental level was a conventional thinker that embraced the cult of experts.

Trump was ridiculously politically correct on multiple points.

Both of which are completely contrary to THE NARRATIVE of his personae in office. And tells me that this whole epoch has bullshit on many levels.

Reply to  Rwc1963
14 days ago

Formerly, I supported Trump pretty much to the hilt. But, ruefully, I must admit that you are correct. Trump, like all politicians, is nothing more than a liar in support of his own naked self interest. And he’s a traitor into the bargain. To hell with him.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

I’m wondering if he’ll be the one to release the Crackdown.

ABCer
ABCer
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

He got us to the Rubicon and then drove away. But then we advanced; the miracle happened at last.

I took the same oath Ashli Babbitt did- but now that we’re rising I can die knowing it’s not for nothing. The Americans are marching. That is the miracle worth dying for…

Reply to  ABCer
13 days ago

Amen, brother.

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Paintersforms
14 days ago

Especially sad was the sight of so many Trump signs and banners in the brief siege of the Capitol. How many cucks are still out there! If there was ever a hill not worth dying on, it’s Trump. I’m still trying to understand what went down that day. At first reports, it seemed like an outburst of rage among well-meaning but misguided normies. But enough anomalies are being discovered that it looks like at least some demonstrators were agents provocateurs who had been planted to light the fuse. Some of the invaders seem to have been photographed previously at Antifa… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Gravity Denier
14 days ago

Even if it was an op to trigger the Pavlovian response in righties that We aren’t like them, they lit the fuse, and it’ll backfire. I get the sense there’s a growing contingent that is over the rhetorical battle.

ABCer
ABCer
Reply to  Paintersforms
14 days ago

We don’t need these leaders, we need to fight and let them rise. One already did , Ashli Babbit. She died out in front, which sadly happens to brave leaders. But not for nothing…

Dying for nothing shall be the fate of the enemy.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Marko
15 days ago

We’re a long way from the French Revolution. I agree that we’re about to live through a very faggy (but still dangerous) version of the Bolshevik revolution combined with Plantation of Ulster. TPTB will crack down on the kulaks while trying to colonize our lands with my pliant POC.

I have to admit. It’s a clever plan.

But it has a flaw: It can’t work long-term. POC can’t run squat. Eventually, the system will start to show cracks, and the remaining Whites will have little to lose.

RabbiHighComma
RabbiHighComma
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
15 days ago

It would be foolish to assume that (((they))) have no plan for after Whites are gone. White genocide was planned in the ashes after WW2 (I have late 1940s American Jewish Committee board meeting minutes where they discussed how to kill every last German and get away with it). How they trick the Han after seeing what happened to us is a different matter. May the devil finally meet his match.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  RabbiHighComma
14 days ago

Yeah, Morgenthau certainly would have loved to see that. But the usual suspects will have an issue against the Han. I don’t think people truly understand how looking like us enables them to do most of what they do. The Han quite literally see them for what they are, another tribe. Every time one of them opens their mouth to a Chinese politician or business man, that Han see a foreigner giving him advice and immediately recognizes that the advice is suspect. The usual suspects have made no inroads in the Japan. They will make little in China. A con… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

Hence marrying Chinese women?

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Paintersforms
14 days ago

Won’t work. They’ll still look different and have very different last names.

Also, Jews are a race. Dilute the blood, and they’re no longer particularly good at being Jews.

I’ve seen it in the DC area. The quarter and half Jews don’t have the drive or intensity of full bloods.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

edit: that’s interesting. Why then so many Jews who don’t look particularly Mediterranean? Khazars? Admittedly I haven’t looked into it much.

And why marry a Chinese woman if you’re not marrying in? To each his own I guess!

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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Paintersforms
14 days ago

And why marry a Chinese woman if you’re not marrying in? Have you been around Jewish women? 🙂 As to why Ashkenazi Jews often don’t look very Mediterranean, it’s because they’re only about half Mediterranean. At some point, Jews who were possibly Khazar converts made their way to Europe and took European brides who converted. Amazingly, pure blood Ashkenazi Jews all descend from ~350 people, i.e. very inbred. Of course, the Ashkenazi Jews spent the next thousand years getting more and more “Jewish” so to speak as the least Jewish in temperament and outlook married into the local gentile populations,… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

Makes sense. Thanks for the info.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Paintersforms
14 days ago

Oh, good catch. The Cult of the Bride Gatherers learned in Hammurabi’s day that the women are the back door in.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  RabbiHighComma
14 days ago

Jews to Asia “East Indians and Chinese: let’s you and him fight!”

Josey Wales
Josey Wales
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

We already have nothing to lose.
We have lost our liberty, NOTHING else
matters.

John Wilson Squyres
John Wilson Squyres
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
14 days ago

The Plantation of Ulster is an interesting comparison.

GenEarly
Member
Reply to  Marko
14 days ago

The French Revolution Jacobins were forerunners of the Marxists and Leninists, just for the historical record.
The French revolution is nothing to emulate as they are like the current democRat ProgreSSives.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  whitney
15 days ago

My wife never takes them down lol

I mean she does, but prob won’t be until the spring til she gets around to it

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  whitney
14 days ago

Christmas is over; Epiphany has just started. Upvote anyway. Point taken.

Jack Stringer
Jack Stringer
Reply to  whitney
14 days ago

I think that uncertain is an optimistic way of looking at things.

David Wright
Member
15 days ago

Full on Stoicism for me going forward.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  David Wright
15 days ago

Same. I will look back with fondness, forward with determination.

Kestrel
Kestrel
Reply to  David Wright
15 days ago

I’m at that point with you, Mr. Wright. I’m surrounded by the enemy, and many of my oldest friends have turned coat. It’s an admirable way you speak of. I am wrestling with just holding my tongue, day by day (and I have to, being located deep, deep in enemy territory).

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Kestrel
15 days ago

Same here. Been reordering life as much as possible to avoid unnecessary interactions. For day to day transactions, directing them to the like minded and away from the Left minded. Local charity included.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  SamlAdams
15 days ago

directing them to the like minded This. Bitcoin was the subject the other day on this site, and it naturally sprouted into the normal discussions of metals, gems, 401ks, bullets booze and beans as currency, etc. Differing opinions on the merits of each were discussed. I think we missed the ultimate prepper investment. People. Human capital. OUR people. The like-minded and awakening. Building friendships, alliances, comradeship. Recruitment. Forming community. Race aware white people helping to lift and sustain each other. I have guns to defend myself but I need to sleep at some point. I have skills but I can’t… Read more »

Gunner Q
Reply to  Penitent Man
15 days ago

Yes, but how to find those like-minded people? I don’t want to uproot myself to gain just one friend and what community can be trusted to reject the next wave of Chinaball lockdowns?

I’m looking at a cross-country opportunity right now. Should I burn my connections right before Bolshevik Biden picks up the nuclear football? How does one predict the future?

Commodities at least sit still.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Gunner Q
15 days ago

You have to reach out and risk a little, or a lot. Isn’t that what investments and commodities are? Do you move or not? Dunno. Up to you. What can you find where you are? You won’t find a craigslist listing for “need healthy traditional white people for our town”. But you can look up demographics of an area you are considering moving to can’t you? How many churches are there? What is the culture like? The area I call home is 93% white. Churches are as thick as ticks on a coon dog. Equestrianism, hunting, shooting, boating and off-roading… Read more »

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Penitent Man
14 days ago

I dont think we can keep on moving

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Hi-yah!
14 days ago

No. We can’t. But instead of wandering a battlefield on my own, I’m better off finding my shield wall brothers, my phalanx companions, my platoon’s foxholes… use whatever metaphor you like… it is a battlefield and don’t forget it. We aren’t quiting the field, we are rallying.

Lineman
Reply to  Penitent Man
14 days ago

Amen my Brother…I think a lot of eyes were opened just in the past week and maybe just maybe people will finally realize that it’s who you live around that will determine what kind of future you have… Building Community is where it’s at and always has been…Hope you are well Brother and that God’s Blessings are upon you…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Lineman
14 days ago

Lineman,

Sent you a message back channel. God keep you and yours, Brother.

Last edited 14 days ago by Penitent Man
Lineman
Reply to  Penitent Man
14 days ago

Replied a bit ago Brother hopefully it made it…

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Lineman
14 days ago

Sorry been crazy busy. Ill check.

vote harder. more cowbell.
vote harder. more cowbell.
Reply to  Kestrel
14 days ago

keep your eyes and ears open and your mouth closed. freefor needs intelligence from deep in enemy territory. good luck and god speed.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  David Wright
15 days ago

good choice

BTP
Member
Reply to  David Wright
15 days ago

Forrester’s quote, that the essential American soul is hard, stoic, isolate, and a killer keeps popping up in my mind.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  David Wright
15 days ago

Stoicism ultimately means accepting you cannot control events, only your reaction to events. Much of life’s satisfaction is found in how you train your mind to react to things.

“Hope is the first stage of disappointment”.

(I am bitterly, bitterly disappointed; stoicism is a work in progress)

Last edited 15 days ago by ProZNoV
Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  David Wright
15 days ago

To echo what Kestrel said, I have been advising my adult children to be silent about the current events. One of mine posted a prayer after the Capitol incident. In my opinion, that just makes her a target. Pray silently. And for the love of God surround yourself with like minded family members, and grow your tribe.
i never realized how difficult that is, but even dad, at 82, is seeing the light.

Lineman
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
14 days ago

And for the love of God surround yourself with like minded family members, and grow your tribe.
Amen on that I’m glad more and more see the light that you can’t do this on your own…You need good people to survive what’s coming…

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
15 days ago

Yes, I feel the sadness too. The systems that the UK and the US have did to an extent work for the sorts of people who still defend them. In the UK, we hear constantly from many how there is ‘poverty’ everywhere, we also later learn that the way to fix this is by throwing more money at the problem. Most of the targets of said money have, materially at least, far more than my grandparents ever had… Yet they are not happy people, many are scroungers. My grandfather would fondly show me images of him and his ten siblings… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  OrangeFrog
15 days ago

Excellent point. Crass materialism ultimately is empty and soulless. Odd that rampant consumerism paved the way for totalitarianism. With no hint of irony the goods and services spigot will be turned off and along with the scarcity we will suffer full on dictatorship and deprivation.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Jack Dobson
15 days ago

Perhaps on of the best ways to prepare yourself mentally for the future is to start shedding luxuries and getting used to it.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  OrangeFrog
15 days ago

True. It is very important for anyone with debt to start shedding it ASAP, too.

Chester White
Chester White
Reply to  Jack Dobson
14 days ago

Perhaps. With money printing, debt goes to zero. You can pay off your debt with toilet paper. Debt jubilees are coming.

Reply to  Chester White
14 days ago

I suspect student loan forgiveness is in the offing. If so, you’d be a fool to bust your ass to pay them off right now. Then again, it may turn out that forgiveness is only for PoC.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

That will end up removing a huge chunk of the White Left.
Leftists come in twp kinds , normal kids who were brainwashed into thinking that Leftism is normal (c.f Moldylocks) and Spiteful Mutants.
The normies will leave or form some other Lefty group hell discover Democratic Workers Socialism or something and the mutants will stay.
That won’t work.
So if there is a jubilee which BTW would be good for everyone it will be for everyone. Even some of our guys will get some.

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
14 days ago

I just paid. Off 20K. I thought, instead of investing it, I should pay it back.

Sucker born….

Reply to  Hi-yah!
14 days ago

Do you mean you paid it in a lump sum or over time?

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

The $50k proposal takes care of 60% on the low end. The high end most likely contains the professional “White” class—and perhaps they don’t need complete forgiveness as much as they are going somewhere economically.

What is necessary is that the scheme of “student” loans for worthless students and degree areas is reined in. But don’t count on it. We’ll forgive and then reinflate the bubble in a generation or so.

WCiv...---...
WCiv...---...
Reply to  Chester White
14 days ago

Yeah, two ways to look at debt. Sure, with hyperinflation you’re paying back your loan pennies on the dollar, but when a loaf of bread costs $25, those pennies will be needed.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  WCiv...---...
14 days ago

Nothing pays a better return than eliminating debt and baring actual starvation, getting out of debt is always job one. Also hyperinflation even high inflation requires velocity of money and to get that the economy has to open fully for a period of time. Otherwise all the money printing just subsidizes a few businesses, This seems good but even the retreads in charge of our society are aware its not. So either open up or the money goes nowhere. Decisions, decisions. Also China isn’t ready to drop the dollar . Until they do , yperinflation will not be a thing… Read more »

Chester White
Chester White
Reply to  WCiv...---...
14 days ago

My point is that usually wages rise with inflation. 100 years ago a well-paid man earned $20 per week and could buy a suit or an ounce of gold. Today, he might earn $2000 per week and could buy a suit or an ounce of gold.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Chester White
14 days ago

Automation plus a global surplus of labor ensures indefinite wage decline.
In time all developed societies will shrink in population and collapse to a sustainable level.
This includes China which is at 1.6 same as every other developed nation basically.
Africa and such will probably die off to starvation, Africa always wins.
2150 will look like 1910 or 19880 maybe.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Chester White
14 days ago

Good lord. It’s not your debt they’ll inflate their way out of. Your chains are assets to them.

Let me know when you get a shot at the latest primary offering at the Federal Reserve window. Sheesh.

Last edited 14 days ago by Alzaebo
abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Alzaebo
13 days ago

Despite the USG minting 1/3 of the money its ever had in its history in a single year, yes in a stinking year the inflation has been mild. This is mostly do to lock downs but not entirely as we’ve been running the pressed and all that is going up is low margin necessities. We’ve impoverished our country and while yes the few looters at the top have benefited from it, even icons like Hollywood are now decayed post apocalypse zones. The grab for the remaining loot is going to be fierce as the last of US assets are sold… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Jack Dobson
15 days ago

You keep losing until it stops bothering you. Or, the beatings will continue until morale improves.

Reply to  Jack Dobson
14 days ago

This is what happens when the so-called “Right” reveres the GDP uber alles, and the Left hijacks capitalism and uses it to push black supremacy and anti-white racism. Tradition and beneficent social structures are bulldozed into a landfill and a cancerous fascism replaces them.

Michael Flournoy
Michael Flournoy
Reply to  Jack Dobson
13 days ago

II Peter 3And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.:3

DLS
DLS
Reply to  OrangeFrog
15 days ago

Same here. My Mom was one of 8 kids. They lived in a two bedroom house, including my Grandma’s sister. Eleven people in about 700 square feet. They have all had great, happy lives, and remain very close, to this day. No one in this country today knows that type of poverty, unless they are mentally ill homeless.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  DLS
14 days ago

You have described to a T my upbringing, only 900 sq ft and 3 bedrooms. It wasnt poverty but dad was washer and dryer repairman, so very tight.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  David Wright
14 days ago

Wait…we used to repair things?

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  David Wright
14 days ago

Been there done that. 3/10 stars for economics won’t recommend though homogeneous and free was nice 8/10 there.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  DLS
14 days ago

Not true. A lot of people in the US go hungry and poverty here is fairly endemic even among Whites. My family was smaller but I have known the joy of a welfare Christmas, EBT (Food Stamps back in the day) and food boxes as have millions of others many who still do. And yes we rarely have such large families though but no one can afford them anyway without massive sacrifices. People won’t make that sacrifice for a society of Mammon and Moloch. Beyond that sense should suggest you should limit the number of children you have to those… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  OrangeFrog
15 days ago

“Coming Apart”

“Bowling Alone”

There’s a reason the Amish are so happy. The bonds of community are the ultimate safety net.

Freedom of association is gone, and with it, community.

Last edited 15 days ago by ProZNoV
abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  ProZNoV
14 days ago

You really only have freedom of association with homogeneity.

Norham Foul
Norham Foul
Reply to  ProZNoV
12 days ago

Coming Apart resonated with me. One thing I recall from the book that I thought important was the unabashed licentiousness and double-standards of the elites. I think it was Murray who wrote this (he’ll think twice after getting clobbered in faux Poison Ivy: Middlebury), and he opined that the proles look at and mimic the elites and that in the past, the elites at least feigned decency and uprightness. Now their bed-hopping with the latest hip-hop stars, say, like Fiddy-Cent. Good book. I highly recommend it.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Norham Foul
12 days ago

I’ve read it. Quite good if you can get a copy. The book to read now if you can get it as its apparently soft banned (out of print, no reprint) is the Fourth Turning by Strauss and Howe . It basically explains everything going on, with high accuracy and good detail even though the book is pre 2000.

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
15 days ago

The Nietzschean supermen of the alt-right always sneered at the normie drive toward homeostasis, but it’s natural for an organism to want things on an even keel, to continue going as they’ve gone. My dog knows what time it eats and goes out, and that I can’t pick her up when she’s gone to her little bed in the corner of my room. Our elites’ constantly shifting of the rules, their relishing of changing the rules based on nothing but their whims, caprice, and relieving their boredom, has made it clear to even the dullest normie: We are much, much… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Joey Jünger
15 days ago

I don’t blame them. At least a dog will bite you when you kick it in the ribs.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Joey Jünger
15 days ago

i don’t think humanity had worse elites than what whites have right now.
mongols – didn’t genocide you if you paid tribute
islam – didn’t genocide you if you converted
ISRAELITES – genocide you no matter what, in fact the more whites submit to their control the more they want to destroy us
to be ruled by israelites is to be ruled by satan himself.

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  sentry
14 days ago

The Bible says being ruled by foreigners is a punishment from God.
However bad leaders are common as flies.
Some examples.
The Thirty Years War ended up killing half the population of parts of Germany.
Henry the 8th turned England into an abbatoir, ruined the holy relics and destroyed a centuries old highly functional welfare system and changed the faith so he could divorce.
Stalin murdered on an massive scale for an insane ideology and out of paranoia.
Oh and there was that Cromwell mess runing a fucntional monarch

Kermit Is Not Green
Kermit Is Not Green
Reply to  Joey Jünger
14 days ago

That skull could also be used for drinking vodka.

Johnny Hooker
Johnny Hooker
15 days ago

As the old world dies, a new world is born…

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
Reply to  thezman
15 days ago

Blake? [guessed without checking]

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Karl McHungus
15 days ago

Dante’s Inferno

Reply to  thezman
14 days ago

Ah. A man of culture. Such a rarity in these demotic days.

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  thezman
14 days ago

Virgil!

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  thezman
14 days ago

But we need a way to organize that isn’t just obviously doomed to fail. I am getting tired of typing comments into boxes on the internet. In other words, where is the round aperture.

CAPT S
CAPT S
15 days ago

Napoleon said to understand a man you have to know what was going on in the world when he was 20. We of the gray-hairs are saddened because we remember a far different America, and we saw it frittered away. But today’s 20-something? I can’t imagine a response other than cynical resignation.

It’s a bitter pill recognizing that Mexico is a healthier nation-state than the USA.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  CAPT S
15 days ago

“But today’s 20-something? I can’t imagine a response other than cynical resignation.” A very salient and sobering point. My oldest is 16 and for the last two years, he and I have been reading classics from ancient Greece and Rome together, for the simple reason is that I want him to understand how our people evolved to this point and that there were and could still be better times ahead. I explained to him that after the fall of Rome there were small communities here and there – mostly monasteries – who not only held on to and spread the… Read more »

Reply to  Steve
14 days ago

You’re following in the footsteps of the late Charles Weyrich who, in the 90s, argued that America was an enemy of Western civilization, and that its partisans must go underground, create communities separate from American society, and preserve the best of the West for future generations. He also used the monasteries/Dark Ages analogy.

Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

It’s Paul Weyrich, BTW.

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Steve
14 days ago

My parents both grew. Up in 1950s and 1960s America. Except for being drafted, which I admit must have been scary, they always seem to want me to konw how easy I have it and how great my life is and how tougher they had it.
My mom lived in a town that was so replete with Catholics, that angelus bells went off all day. Now we have phone dings….

Gauss
Gauss
Reply to  Steve
13 days ago

I’m going to quote this comment elsewhere and link back to this page. It provides an important vision on how to move forward.

B125
B125
Reply to  CAPT S
15 days ago

Yeah I’m not sad at all.

Happy to see it crumbling and starting to burn.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  B125
14 days ago

A virus spreads with no cure to find
God has had enough of our shit
A nuclear war breaks out and that’s it
To be on this planet living your life
To see it all end would be alright
You cant complain, you wouldn’t die alone
You can die with loved ones and die at home
And you’re not missing anything when you’re gone
Plus seeing it all end and what goes on
To see this great world come to an end
Would be the next best to seeing it begin

ICP

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  CAPT S
15 days ago

these 20-somethings are jazzed and loving it

I have always tended to gravitate toward youth, my nature always being ahead of the curve so what was always normal in my mind 30-40 years ago has taken root and has grown to be the basic norms of today’s young. So I’m kinda of loving it too. Normie considered me a weirdo when I was young but now the world sounds like me and normie is yesterday and laughed at. Yay! I have finally become normal !

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  CAPT S
15 days ago

When conditions change, and I think they will soon (currently are, really) that resignation will also change. Tptb have to go for it all, they know it and they are, and on some level they know they’ll fail.

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DLS
DLS
Reply to  Paintersforms
15 days ago

I am surprised they have gone all in. It seems like they are invincible now. But wait until the debt bubble bursts.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  DLS
14 days ago

Something tells me a bunch of bubbles will burst this year— and tptb won’t have a compliant public to trust their plan.

Chester White
Chester White
Reply to  DLS
14 days ago

Yes. Things will slowly degenerate until the world turns on the dollar, then collapse.

Reply to  CAPT S
14 days ago

I’d rather deal with a Sinaloan cartel than the uniparty. The drug lords are savages, but at least they’re motivated by normal acquisitiveness rather than a perverse desire to torture their own people.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
15 days ago

Hitler is the most influential man in human history … a constant part of the conversation

Indeed. I wonder what his Instagram page would look like. Certainly his person looms so large in modern ‘make a difference/do gooder’ mythology, that even the toothbrush moustache is still frowned upon.

The problem with all these young ‘change makers’ is that it is really all just one attention seeking grift. It will be alarming to see these people come of age, realise that they’ve made no difference, and then like clockwork blame some bogeyman (YT) and start the path toward tyranny.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
15 days ago

Nailed it. Each Hitler tweet would be reported breathlessly and footage of public disdain would follow.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  thezman
15 days ago

You don’t have to imagine it. This has been Trump for the last 4 years.

JR Ewing
JR Ewing
Member
Reply to  DLS
12 days ago

Funny because it’s true.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  OrangeFrog
15 days ago

You’re wrong about one thing: the toothbrush moustache. Michael Jordan rocked that bad boy and didn’t get cancelled.

Kentucky Headhunter
Kentucky Headhunter
Reply to  Marko
15 days ago

Now name a white guy…

Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
14 days ago

Didn’t John Cleese sport one for a while?

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
14 days ago

Why. Did you bring an image of Z’s neighbor: that fag, movie maker, whats -his name. Eeew@!

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Kentucky Headhunter
14 days ago

Charlie Chaplin?

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  OrangeFrog
14 days ago

There’s been so many “changemakers” and celebrate milestones: civil rights, obama’s Election, sodomy as the foundation of marriage, abortion. Non of these is good enough.

If 65 years of civil rights is not enough for the black man to be what they think he should, can’t people tell that their weird utopia may need to be examined?

Waiting Monster?
Waiting Monster?
15 days ago

what I find interesting is that they haven’t released the identity of the guy who shot Babbitt. With the various cops who’ve shot various blacks, the media immediately doxxes them and we have all their personal info and image graven in our memories. Their prior transgressions and histories are minutely examined. With this shooter, it’s like they’re “just part of the system” or whatever.

I apologize if this is discussed in the podcast, but I had the thought and wanted to say it right away.

Waiting Monster?
Waiting Monster?
Reply to  Waiting Monster?
15 days ago

Part of the “mostly just” system.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Waiting Monster?
15 days ago

It shows they still know fear. Good.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Waiting Monster?
15 days ago

They are going to protect him at all costs, but I think he was a secret service agent and that is part of the reason. To the inner party that is a different than just some city cop, they would never give up one of their members for shooting a deplorable. The guy who blogs under the name “Jim Treacher” got hit by a State Department goon in a van while walking on the D.C. streets ten years ago. The driver was clearly in the wrong, but not only faced no consequences, the D.C. police went to the hospital to… Read more »

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Barnard
15 days ago

This is correct. Not in 10,000 years will you learn the identity of that man. I said it yesterday and wasn’t kidding I do know several agents being a DC local myself, and Secret Service is a black box org by design. Just call him Mr. Smith because he is a suit wearing G-Man with a license to kill, that is all you need to know civilian.
Alphabet agencies run in the rarest of rarified air and have rules even MORE empowering than the cops who already have privilege you can only dream of.

theRussians
theRussians
Member
Reply to  Waiting Monster?
14 days ago

I somewhat expect suicide will be the option selected for this shooter…. The bus stops for no one, it’s the handsoap of the left.

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  Waiting Monster?
14 days ago

It was confirmed on local radio WMAL Chris Plante show the killer was black, but not identified.

Drake
Drake
15 days ago

I’m sad too because I’m mourning for my country. The Republic is truly dead and gone. The stages of grief are: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, then acceptance. Every like-minded person I know is somewhere between anger and depression. I’m trying to push myself and others to the acceptance stage.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Drake
15 days ago

The mourning I feel is similar to that of losing my dad to cancer. There is a kind of tide to mourning; acceptance then denial, hope then despair, as the inevitable moves from an idea to a reality. A great deal of my mourning has already happened. Yet the body of the nation still exists, kind of. The cancer has taken much already. Small, frail, almost hard to recognize. But it is still there. So I can’t mourn its death fully even though its terminal; everything on the chart points to that. But I also have to keep living, moving… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Screwtape
14 days ago

There goes the Star Trek Future and the When Covid Ends my friend dreams about.

His solution is to “hunt ’em all down, kill TrumpHitler” and then things will get back to Boomer Normal.

(Yes, even me, brother against brother. He can’t understand why we cannot see Trump’s evil.)

Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
14 days ago

“when Covid ends”. I should put this phrase on the tombstone of my abortive efforts locally at being a “community organizer” (thanks Obama!) I kept hearing it from (sadly it was usually Boomers) people I thought knew the score about what was going on. Astounding that so many people would nod in agreement with statements about how we need to defy tyranny – and then chicken out of in person meetings that probably weren’t even technically against our Governor’s insane diktats that were not being enforced in any case. I think a few of those people are probably coming to… Read more »

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  pozymandias
14 days ago

I’ll always keep a gas cylinder in reserve for grilling any tasty road kill I come across to supplement the government issued Soylent Green crackers.

Member
Reply to  Judge Smails
14 days ago

Just can’t stand the bug-burgers eh?

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Alzaebo
14 days ago

Other than the Vietnam vets Boomers had it very easy and anything that upsets that apple cart makes the bunnies crazy. A great number can’t cope with real hardship and though its not true Trump represents getting back to brass tacks , hard work and all that. Worse they fear the upcoming crash, possible civil war , social security croaking and blame Trump for that. On top of that mess unlike aged people in the past (I’m assuming he’s over 50) so many lack any dignity and aren’t prepared to die. Ugh. That said and we all know and you… Read more »

Memebro
Memebro
Reply to  Screwtape
14 days ago

This was an extremely poetic post. Perhaps you could stylize it a bit for a blog submission to a site such as counter-currents

Gunner Q
Reply to  Drake
15 days ago

There is no acceptance stage for us. No new homeostasis, to use Z’s choice of word. Our leaders want us dead and gone and if we don’t push back against them… we’re dead and gone.

For the dissident, the foreseeable future is one of endless, daily denial of very powerful cultural & economic forces.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Gunner Q
14 days ago

They are telling 75 million people, the group largely responsible for maintaining the thin veneer of civilization and figuratively (and literally) keeping the lights on, that they will have no representation in government, no participation in popular culture, and limited access to economic resources and opportunity.

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Judge Smails
14 days ago

And worse: we are on notice

Reply to  Drake
14 days ago

The fact that you recognize the country is gone is a healthy if perhaps painful thing. No longer will you spin your wheels trying to salvage something that no longer exists. And if you have had this epiphany, then so have a great many others. Turning loose of America is the first step toward creating something better from the rubble.

Mis(ter)Anthrope
Reply to  Drake
14 days ago

I have reached the acceptance phase. It is actually quite liberating. I now fully understand that our overlords truly hate us. I shall act accordingly.

JR Ewing
JR Ewing
Member
Reply to  Mis(ter)Anthrope
12 days ago

The Covid has been the last straw. It’s never going to end and any “rights” we think we might have are at best license from the ruling class that can be revoked at any time. Yes, the “rules” might persist for a while and things will seem “normal” most times, but the rule of law is now nothing more than the personal opinion of the highest level executive official who bothers to pay attention to the matter at hand.

Falcone
Falcone
15 days ago

All it took was white guys to flex an itsty bitsy amount of muscle to cause DC to freak out

and you know half of those women were turned on despite condemning it. Savannah Guthrie through her fake face of concern was probably wet as a puddle on that chair

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Falcone
15 days ago

This shows the way, not really back, to a new place. Give them pleasure and children.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Jack Dobson
14 days ago

I’m on board with that! Now if we could only convince them to stop being crazy…

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Falcone
15 days ago

It shows the ruling class is terrified of us when we get feisty, This is a good thing which we need to leverage,

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Falcone
14 days ago

and you know half of those women were turned on despite condemning it. Savannah Guthrie through her fake face of concern was probably wet as a puddle on that chair.

I bet she really got excited by the Viking headdress guy. Deep down, they’re just waiting to be ravished by an alpha barbarian.

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Federalist
14 days ago

I could share many stories about that— and all the times I chickened out because Consent. Damned feminist brainwashing!

JR Ewing
JR Ewing
Member
Reply to  Federalist
12 days ago

I’m not saying any of this was an “false flag” or “Antifa infiltration” or any nonsense like that, but it’s also clear that the most visible contingent of these clowns like Buffalo Headdress Tattoo Man weren’t necessarily MAGA normies, either, they were plain old rabble rousers who were just there for the excitement. And contra the narrative going around in conservative circles, Buffalo Guy’s documented presence at a BLM rally doesn’t necessarily prove he was Antifa either. If anything it just further illustrates he’s a weirdo drawn to spectacles. It just so happens that there indeed were some die-hard MAGA… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Falcone
14 days ago

Chicks dig bikers and “Nazis” basically. Now if you’re both, Whooo!

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
15 days ago

It has been an eye-opener for many on this side, as well. Unless you have something wrong with you, you held out some small hope that the prediction would turn out to be wrong. That hope is gone now and with it comes a bit of sadness over the finality of it. You have to be soulless not to mourn today. If you are over 50 you feel the full gravity of the loss, and if younger are resigned to a bitter future that very well may involve a state of constant civil war; it certainly will involve a state… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Jack Dobson
15 days ago

Almost don’t want to admit it, but I feel alive. The conveyor belt existence I’ve never fit in and always rebelled against is breaking down.

Sort of guilty knowing decent people are getting hurt. But this person wins, that one loses, and that’s life. It’s out of our hands for the most part. What a time to be alive.

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c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jack Dobson
15 days ago

For the 50-somethings here, it is one of those things you knew in your gut was true, but it still hurts you when it becomes confirmed beyond any doubt.

Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
14 days ago

I was a young adult in the 90s. I used to hang out with conservative Christians and they were always talking about “the culture war”. I don’t think many knew that wars of any kind evolve towards greater violence and fanaticism if they don’t end decisively. I’m pretty sure the Cold War would have gone hot eventually if one of the players hadn’t essentially died of a heart attack.

Reply to  pozymandias
14 days ago

How ironic that most Americans thought, after winning the Cold War, that the country had it made in the shade. Instead, the US rapidly descended into a mad maelstrom and is every bit as dead as if the Rooskies had nuked it into slag.
The real enemy was always within.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 days ago

The USSR was just enough of a threat to the ruling class that they needed us to protect them and their property, so they mostly behaved. Once the threat ended, we became a net liability.

Some Guy
Some Guy
15 days ago

The silver lining is that Trump’s post-presidential plans are dead in the water. Instead of shamelessly grifting and ripping off his fanbase, all that waits for him is the will they/won’t they game of the Southern District or New York pursuing the investigations they’ve drafted. Without his fans and without establishment support, I could see his final years fraught with legal issues. Another silver lining is that Ivanka really wanted to kickstart her political career and that is now dead in the water. Trump shut down the Bush and Clinton dynasties but he wanted to build his own. That’s all… Read more »

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  thezman
15 days ago

Trump gave up a charmed, very cushy life to take on an unbelievable onslaught of attacks from all directions. Whatever his shortcomings, he forced countless traitors out of the shadows and into the open. It is now time for others to pick up the ball and run with it.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Judge Smails
15 days ago

Exactly. Trump was never a miracle savior. He was a first step.

Charles St. Charles
Charles St. Charles
Reply to  DLS
12 days ago

He was a spanner in the works – a doorstop – but the regime have fixed the machine now – no openings for spanners nor doorstops now.

PaoloG
PaoloG
Reply to  Judge Smails
15 days ago

Wrong.

He ran for personal glory and to secure a political future for his children. And he failed. Spectacularly.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  PaoloG
14 days ago

In primate politics, the alpha serves as merely a flagpole around which the tribe members can organize themselves.

Grumpy Cat said it best, even though what PaoloG said is true:

“This ain’t about Trump– this is about us.”

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
14 days ago

PS- I just realized that “alpha flagpole” is why the woke defend their sigils so stridently as well. We’re into deep instinct territory here.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  PaoloG
14 days ago

Funny then how his ego did him in. He served an important purpose anyway, as Judge Smails noted.

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Gunner Q
Reply to  Judge Smails
15 days ago

With all the tools and allies that Trump gave us? How is it a noble, hard-won accomplishment of Trump’s, that he was pathologically hated for “grabbing ’em by the pu$$y”?

He did his part by being a sexy outsider, now I have to do my part and save my country unassisted? Maybe Trump could have, I don’t know, won a victory at some point?

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Gunner Q
14 days ago

Maybe Trump could have, I don’t know, won a victory at some point?
this made me chuckle, I’ve said twice, i’ll say it thrice, Trump’s presidency was a fart in the wind, total shill.
i still can’t believe how proud he presents himself despite all his many failed promises, he should at least admit the swamp got the better of him, instead he tries to calm people down, to not rebel, he says they do not represent the country, THAT THEY WILL PAY, when time is running short and that’s exactly what they should do.
Total piece of shit.

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Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Gunner Q
14 days ago

Judging by the very small number of leftist women that I know, their chief, unstated, offense with Trump is that although he was a philanderer they knew that he would never cheat with them.

Reply to  Judge Smails
14 days ago

Yes, Trump served an important purpose. But, at the last ditch, he proved himself a betrayer of his own people. For that he can never be forgiven, only condemned.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  thezman
14 days ago

Without Trump to blow off steam, the tea kettle’s going to boil.

theRussians
theRussians
Member
Reply to  thezman
14 days ago

There’s much to be learned from the sacrificial lamb whether I staked it or not, the jackals seemingly all came out to feed and I was watching. It does not matter Trump’s motivation as far as I’m concerned, it did at one time but doesn’t anymore. Train wrecks improve overall safety… Eventually.

Member
Reply to  thezman
14 days ago

I don’t spend any time hating on Trump. I supported him as much as I could and even tried to organize people for him (and us). I see him as a tragic figure. He betrayed his followers and was betrayed by everyone close to him too. Then again, as we’ve all noted he had a knack for surrounding himself with obvious traitors and grifters. His running mate proved to be the greatest betrayer of all. I hope Pence spends his 30 pieces of silver wisely.

Reply to  thezman
14 days ago

This is a straw man, Z-man. The anti-Trumpers never regarded the MAGAs as the enemy, but rather merely as sad dupes. But all of us, the anti-Trumpers, the MAGAs and all points in between have understood and continue to understand that the great force for evil is the Left. I see no need to sow division where it doesn’t really exist to any significant degree.

Gunner Q
Reply to  Some Guy
15 days ago

Dominion Voting Systems is allied with the Clinton Foundation. That dynasty is doing fine.

Reply to  Some Guy
14 days ago

Trump is now friendless in this world, beset by powerful enemies, and bereft of allies. Serves him right. He deserves to rot in a cell for his maltreatment of the MAGAs.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
12 days ago

Ostei , your posts usually are great but seriously man, you are fucking out of line. You seem to think that a lecherous narcissistic 73 year old hotelier , flim flam artist real estate developer and entertainer who is only a mild alpha male and who expected quite reasonably to just be Bill Clinton 2 is suddenly going to become your Caesar. It never was going to happen. Everyone who voted for the guy knew that. He was flawed, If you are referring to the DC debacle he didn’t mistreat MAGA people he simply didn’t expect them to go ape… Read more »

Josh
Josh
15 days ago

It’s like the pot on the stove, it’s boiling with the cover on and occasionally what your cooking bubbles out and slides down. You see it and hear the hiss as it slides down the pot, you can ignore it, but if you do, it will continue until enough leaks out and you have a fire on your hands.

Our elites can ignore the the boiling pot at their own peril.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
15 days ago

Let us dispense with histrionics and have a little truth and clarity here, Z.
George Floyd was not murdered. Nor was that airforce veteran that was in the wrong place at the wrong time with a jittery cop facing an unruly mob. They were both accidents.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  thezman
15 days ago

I watched the video. He aimed and fired. There was nothing accidental about it. BTW, his hands appear to be those of a black.
https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/061/372/793/original/e9a936199fd8aa71.mp4

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Hoagie
15 days ago

He is an older white guy, if you frame by frame that video it becomes clear when he briefly steps out from behind cover. Irrelevant really, your point stands it was intentional though he DID tell them if you breach the barrier I will fire. So probably not the best decision on her part.

Not defending the action -whatsoever- but I also think it was calculated because he knew if he hit a woman everyone would stop to render aid and that is -exactly- what happened. Either he is a misogynist or makes strategically sound decisions?

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Apex Predator
14 days ago

he DID tell them if you breach the barrier I will fire.

Reminds me of “stop resisting stop resisting!
Other parts of the videos show people just strolling past security. Why the urgency?
but you are right, its bad all around

rcocean
rcocean
Reply to  Hi-yah!
12 days ago

Good job of minimizing Cold blooded murder. Yeah, Everyone was to blame. what can you do? isn’t that what they said about Hitler murder of 6 million too?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Hoagie
15 days ago

Given this past year, the races here are very important. The victim was white, the killer black. The propaganda organs want no part of this story, obviously.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  thezman
15 days ago

Indeed. If the shooter had been you or I, we’d be charged and required to show in court how we were in “immediate” jeopardy of death or serious injury. I saw no breach of the barricade by the unfortunate victim, nor does it bode well that there were officers on the other side of the barricade—with shouldered assault rifles—who had no fear of the protesters all around them. They pointed no weapons, took no defensive stances among the crowd. This was no accident. Perhaps incompetence, exaggerated by fear—but not an “accident”. Of course, we’ll likely never know, since TPTB will… Read more »

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  thezman
15 days ago

Z, this is probably one of your best presentations I’ve seen to date. For the record, I don’t like this any more than you and the fellas do. But on this one point… Hogwash. Please allow me to disagree: Murder implies intent, motive and means. That guy did not wake up in the morning and say, “I am going to murder a young lady with no criminal record and 14 years in with the air force…” and proceed to make the arrangements to do so. Unless you can prove otherwise, it’s NOT murder. If you have the morals and ethics… Read more »

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Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Glenfilthie
15 days ago

That guy did not wake up in the morning and say, “I am going to murder a young lady with no criminal record and 14 years in with the air force…”

He certainly woke up thinking that he wouldn’t care if he did. He probably spent more time that day worrying about the scores of the local sportsball team than the fact that he offed an enemy of his totalitarian paymasters.

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Glenfilthie
14 days ago

Murder implies intent…That guy did not wake up in the morning and say, “I am going to murder a young lady…” and proceed to make the arrangements to do so.

Wrong. It will vary by jurisdiction, but the requisite intent will be something along the lines of his having the intent to kill or inflict great bodily harm. (Which he certainly did). It is not necessary that he planned on killing someone when he woke up in the morning.
P.S. Look up the felony murder rule if you want to see how relaxed the requirement of intent can really be.

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Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Glenfilthie
13 days ago

And this is why this moment will be lost. This sort of BS would make Rich Lowry proud. I remember when everyone in the main stream and in my personal life was defending what happened to George Floyd. Oh wait. That did not actually happen. They went all in and it worked.

Keep splitting hairs, which is what this amounts to doing. I’m sure that will be a great defense against a split head.

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abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Glenfilthie
12 days ago

The problem is that US police in far too many jurisdictions are allowed to kill with impunity. The Left is correct on this. We need to end that impunity and a policeman kills another person, he’ll be investigated by outsiders so no blue line advantage. If they don’t like it? Quit and we’ll hire some other kids of cops. Have a calm temperament test and an IQ test , no upper IQ band , a calm non violent conscientious disposition required. No hereditary cops. no ex soldiers. Lots more cops but lost less armed cops. It might take some time… Read more »

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Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  thezman
14 days ago

It looked like a hit, straight up.

Deuce
Deuce
Reply to  thezman
13 days ago

Z-Man,
Thanks again for so much clarity of thought and the concise descriptions in your last two missives.
“When a black criminal died in (police custody) they demanded vengeance.”
”When a white veteran is (murdered by a cop) on video they think it great fun,”
i am just so tired of the media idiots telling us that we did not see what we damn well did just see.
Please continue to tell it like it is!
Deuce

Johnny
Reply to  thezman
12 days ago

The sickness of Twitter Leftists. I saw them cheering with happiness Ashli Babbitt was shot dead. It was not even an argument of maybe the shooting was justified. They just said oh good riddance or no sympathy for this terrorist.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Glenfilthie
15 days ago

I was texting a friend last night who justified the cop’s action by writing “what if someone was breaking into YOUR house I’d bet you’d shoot him”. I reckon lots of people are siding with the cop in this way, as if the capitol is hearth and home. God help us.

BTP
Member
Reply to  Marko
15 days ago

The gun-guy blogs are filled with people claiming good shoot. Ironic, because these same sites are always in a big hurry to condemn any white cop shooting a black criminal. The people who fit in at places like The Truth About Guns or Bearing Arms are worthless. Those gun guys are all Ben Shapiro.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  BTP
15 days ago

Copsuckers are part & parcel of most ‘gun nut’ sites. They simply won’t get it until the party van arrives at 3am and the goon squad points select fire M4s at their head. Fudds gonna fudd and boomers gonna boom… *shrug*

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Apex Predator
14 days ago

I am not a cop-sucker. Not any more, not by a damnsight.
You will either operate by rule of law, or you won’t If you don’t the difference between you and the pot bellied cops with M4’s is purely conversational

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  BTP
15 days ago

I’m a “gun guy” and avoid TTAG like the plague. There are far better gun blogs out there.

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Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Carl B.
14 days ago

Recommendations?

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  BTP
14 days ago

Yeah that nogger , Colin NOIR said that black crime was cause of poverty!

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Hi-yah!
12 days ago

Its more complex than that but by and large he’s correct. Married working Black people commit far less crime than non married ones.
Statistically more than Whites and Latinos but with a strong family and church along with harsh penalties for real crime it was fully manageable.
The cheap labor/goods crowd would rather write off poor people Blacks and yes Whites too and gin up a genocidal race war than pay decent wages and employ people.
Its not all money but lack of a buy in plus access to drugs is a huge chunk of it.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Marko
15 days ago

Your friend misses the point. A person breaking into your home is not an automatic target of opportunity. The situation always must be one of immediate danger of life and limb. A trained LEO will—in theory—be given even less leeway than a home owner in analyzing the situation and in using deadly force.

JR Ewing
JR Ewing
Member
Reply to  Marko
12 days ago

I argued online somewhere this week (really, a troll, because I knew who I was talking to) about the silly overwrought use of the word “insurrection” and that basically it was “a bunch of goons breaking into a building” and nothing near an actual true organized “insurrection”. (The dumb use of the word “coup” is also included here.) Anyway, you would have thought the people offended by that characterization were flag waving elderly disabled army veterans by the way they bowed up and took utter offense to it: “It wasn’t just a building, it was the CAPITOL!” as if there’s… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Glenfilthie
15 days ago

Bullshit. The SS agent who are assigned to such details are the elite of the Secret Service and very well trained far beyond your typical beat cop.
And that was no unruly mob compared to BLM or your typical SJWs on a rampage.
Maybe you didn’t watch the video of her being executed, but a few steps behind Ashli were heavily armed SWAT guys,. No one was in danger. Least of all Pence.

undeity
undeity
Reply to  Rwc1963
15 days ago

Perhaps not. But the fact there was a perceived threat, he acted accordingly to his training. All bets are off as soon as you decide to B&E property which is not yours. Video shows that mob attempting to break those doors down and they did break the glass. Poor Ashli then decided it was a good idea to climb up thru that broken pane, that’s when she was shot. Had they assembled peacefully, a stronger message would have been sent. They behaved the way our other brethren behaved and are now down on their level unfortunately.

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  undeity
15 days ago

This is not who we are, right boy?

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Carl B.
14 days ago

The other day I was ragging on a fella on Gab and made that quip as we swapped lame insults and jokes.
But since you bring it up: who ARE you, then Carl?

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  undeity
14 days ago

 All bets are off as soon as you decide to B&E property which is not yours Take your apologist shill ass back to HuffPo or Reddit please. ALL SUMMER LONG there was B&E and destruction of property several orders of magnitude more damaging, violent, and costly going on not in a single building but in 1000s of buildings across all major cities. And all bets were ON because of complicit f-ggots like yourself giving one side a pass but hold the other side accountable. Virtually nobody was even prosecuted much less murdered by cops who stood aside and did nothing.… Read more »

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  undeity
14 days ago

Correct. And if she was warned before she was fired upon as some are saying…? You are putting too much on the agent.
The only thing that guy is guilty of is doing a good job for the wrong people. And when it comes down to that… many of us have been in that exact same position, albeit with less dire consequences.

CAPT S
CAPT S
Reply to  Glenfilthie
14 days ago

The LEO mantra is “use the minimum force necessary to compel compliance.” Just because Pence, et al were wetting themselves doesn’t mean deadly force was warranted. It’s a tough sell to call this a “good shoot” … looked like a very, very premature shoot to me.

But then we’ve known all along that ROE are for the peasants … different set of rules for the ruling class.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Glenfilthie
14 days ago

The only thing that guy is guilty of is doing a good job for the wrong people.”
You’ve made your position crystal clear, Glen. A man of ‘principles,’ by golly. Your principles be damned. I stand behind the unarmed White patriots, and you with their keepers. Crystal clear.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Reply to  3g4me
12 days ago

You are entirely correct to do so. But you can’t do that not knowing that shit like this will happen. These guys are going to fight. There will be far more of this as the conflict widens. We have to do this right. Formally Declare war, secede or create an official party and movement with clearly stated objectives and principles. What you have now is a mob no better than BLM or ANTIFA. If hindsight is allowed, the proper response to that incident was for the officers involved, right at the scene – to be arrested, disarmed, and taken into… Read more »

Lineman
Reply to  undeity
14 days ago

Yea and I bet you would be right there condemning the SS if they shot one of those protesting who injured 60 Secret Service trying to storm the Whitehouse…You people who justify this make me sick…

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Lineman
14 days ago

Basic point here is that this conversation goes nowhere. That is why we have inquiries, courts, and trials. There is need for expert review and witnesses to judge the level of guilt involved. Will we get this? Did not at Waco and Ruby ridge.

If those commenting were serious, the call would be for that process—above all else—all we have here is taking sides.

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  CompscI
13 days ago

all we have here is taking sides.

Correct. And it sure looks like some do not realize where they are at this point. All of 2020 and they’re still pretending. “Good shot,” “Breaking & Entering,” “LEO training.” Its incredible.
Are you going to call for a formal investigation and for this to “work its way through the courts” next?

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Valley Lurker
13 days ago

Lurker, you bring up a glaring weakness in my argument. I acknowledge it—in a lawless society, calls for calm inquiry and justice are meaningless. So what I ask for is not gonna happen.

In that event, I too will chose sides when the time comes…and it won’t be for the side that demands sole use of force, but refuses to allow inquiry and justice when such is used improperly.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Lineman
14 days ago

Not trying to be a dink, Lineman. And I get where you’re coming from. And the argument is there: maybe it’s time to go low the same way they have with us. Maybe it’s time to sacrifice their innocents on our political altars the way they do with us. Maybe it’s time to start shooting back, burning their shit, and breaking their toys. Maybe that means killing their cops. But we need to be crystal clear about what it is we’re doing and we need to be prepared when they use that to justify their attacks on us. And let… Read more »

Beetle McTurk
Beetle McTurk
Reply to  Glenfilthie
13 days ago

“Not trying to be a dink, Lineman.”

No, the bulk of what you post on this site indicates it is an innate talent, like being double jointed or ambidextrous.

Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  Lineman
14 days ago

Yes,,,,, thats the. Point. Two sets of rules

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  undeity
14 days ago

The glass was mesh reinforced. It was impenetrable—even if broken.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  CompscI
13 days ago

I correct myself here. Glass has plastic between sheeting I believe. Like an auto windshield, it breaks, but does not give way. This is common in such barriers for security.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  undeity
14 days ago

“Property which is not yours”?

whose property is it then?

Its supposed to be “The Peoples House”.”

Stop apologizing for the asshat. You’re embarrassing yourself.

Reply to  undeity
14 days ago

If the State’s assassin perceived little Ashli as a threat, then his perception was far too poor for him to be at that post to begin with.

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  undeity
13 days ago

They behaved the way our other brethren behaved and are now down on their level unfortunately.

This is hilarious. Wake the fuck up.

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ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Rwc1963
15 days ago

I saw that. Looks like she was being filmed by a known BLM/Antifa type, and the SWAT team was 5 seconds away from her. Unpopular take: She was a veteran, she knew the risks, and she got caught up in the moment; she paid for it with her life. She was used, and should have known better. What she didn’t know was who she was surrounded by, how the press would depict her, that there are different rules for LEFT v RIGHT protests, and how unbelievably cravenly Team R would respond. Something to consider in the future. I’d say her… Read more »

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theRussians
theRussians
Member
Reply to  ProZNoV
14 days ago

I’d read somewhere that Ashli was taking some direction from the mob. There’s an element of “F around and find out” here but she certainly deserves better than george floyd. This is where our side struggles, where the left will martyr a pinata… And worse.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Rwc1963
14 days ago

Examples must be made.

CNN needed a death.

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Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Rwc1963
13 days ago

With all due respect Rwc, I call double bullshit. The word “elite” keeps getting thrown around. I do not think it means what you think it means. In any sort of “unit” that’s put together, one has to have juice, or clout, first.
i wouldn’t be surprised if the shooter was the cousin of some guy who was a shot caller for blah blah blah. You get what I’m saying. No matter what, we will never get the true, full account of the events. As has been stated on this post quite a bit, avoid those kind of situations.

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Glenfilthie
14 days ago

…not murdered. Nor was that airforce veteran that was in the wrong place at the wrong time with a jittery cop facing an unruly mob. 

No offense, but if you watched the video and this is what you think, you’re either retarded or insane. The p-ssy cop wasn’t jittery in the least. It was a cold blooded execution at close range.

She Was A Constitution Nut
She Was A Constitution Nut
Reply to  Federalist
14 days ago

It sure was an execution. The deliberative shooter, who was in no great danger, carefully selected a target, waited briefly, advanced slightly, and fired. It follows that there was premeditation to injure, maim, or kill. Now, it looks as if the intended target was Ashli’s head. This is an inflammatory hypothesis, so why do I suspect that it’s true? Well, why was no warning shot fired first? The shooter had plenty of time to do that. And why did no warning shot strike Ashli Babbitt in the legs or abdomen? That would have been enough to throw her off balance,… Read more »

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Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
Reply to  She Was A Constitution Nut
14 days ago

It looks like an assassination. I have to wonder if she was one of the assets infiltrating the protesters and got too close to the truth.

Greg
Greg
Reply to  Glenfilthie
13 days ago

If one of mine is shot, my compatriot was in the right. If one of theirs is shot, they were in the wrong.

This isn’t hard—you support your ethnic group no matter what. You’re supposed to be loyal to your team, not be the referee.

Beetle McTurk
Beetle McTurk
Reply to  Greg
13 days ago

People like him are why we are in this situation. Thye can never resist the urge to impress the neighbors with their learn-ed Know-It-All-ism.

“Oh, look at me and all MY fair-minded principles!!”

Eloi
Eloi
15 days ago

Just to clarify: The World Economic Forum hosts the Davos meeting, not just associated with them. For those who want to be truly terrified by the point of Covid lockdowns, see the WEF’s 10 predictions for 2030. The first one: you will have no private property, and you will be happy.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Eloi
15 days ago

For the most part, you don’t have much private property right now. Your home is subject to property tax which equals a second mortgage payment so it is really on lease from the govt which can take it at any moment (oh yeah – the first mortgage payment means the bank owns it too). Your income is also subject to payment to the govt. For a large swath of Americans, the CC co’s. have a lien on your personal property as does GMAC or whoever financed your car. So “ownership” for most people is illusory.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  c matt
14 days ago

For the most part, you don’t have much private property right now.
schwab(who is an israelite btw, not a german) probably means a minimalist lifestyle with no cars, small house, no meat, no money to leave to your kids etc

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She Was A Constitution Nut
She Was A Constitution Nut
Reply to  sentry
14 days ago

Got evidence to support your claim about Klaus being an Israelite?

sentry
sentry
Reply to  She Was A Constitution Nut
14 days ago

as if a racist israelite like kissinger would take a german protege, how naive can you be
the name is common among german israelites
israelites have a long history of pretending they’re of a different nationality than they actually are

She Was A Constitution Nut
She Was A Constitution Nut
Reply to  sentry
11 days ago

So now you’re claiming that Henry Kissinger took “a German protege” named Klaus? Is that what you’ve insinuated?

Stop expecting readers to do your work for you, and start producing some evidence. For example, if a Jewish news service or other propaganda outfit quoted Schwab claiming to be Jewish, that would count in your favor. But you’ll need to present that here with a link to verify your quote.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  c matt
14 days ago

Yeah I read that is “you”ll have the same crap that you do today, but the government will have a claim to all of it instead of just ‘most of it'”.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  c matt
14 days ago

Absolutely agree

Beetle McTurk
Beetle McTurk
Reply to  c matt
13 days ago

This is not only true, it is so glaringly obvious the fact that nobody talks about it much indicates the ‘dissidents’ are as hopelessly brainwashed as the ‘Libtards’ they love to decry.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Eloi
14 days ago

Jack Dorsey’s one tweet solution: “2030.”

They’re all in.

Him
Him
15 days ago

The bad guys have full spectrum dominance of the media. Even the football talk shows are carrying anti-Trumpster programs. They are bringing out all the big names in sports to bad mouth us. It appears to be the beginning of the mass arrests and probably eventual genocide. Unless.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Him
15 days ago

Watch for it: there will be feature stories galore about former Trump supporters who have seen the light. It will be, frankly, hilarious.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
15 days ago

Just part of the coming Woke theocracy.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
14 days ago

The One Church. Hey, if our enemies the Romans could do it, so could we, only bigger and better.

The Star Trek Vision is coming, but it won’t have all those pesky Anglo values except as a sales pitch.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Alzaebo
14 days ago

Hell, we already have Woke religious police that can murder people who blaspheme against church doctrine.

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Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
14 days ago

I think I would have preferred fundamentalist Islam. I kinda like the tileworkcomment image and the music in some of those jihaddi training videos is kickin! Also only the women have to wear a burka.

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The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  pozymandias
14 days ago

Yeah, the Wokesters are definitely terrible at art and music.

No booze or pork in Islam though.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
14 days ago

Hey! Islam is multicultural! No racism in Islam!

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Hi-yah!
Hi-yah!
Reply to  pozymandias
14 days ago

Gotta. Give it to the Arabs, they get women right…

Member
Reply to  Hi-yah!
14 days ago

Allah ‘u Akbar to that!

Eloi
Eloi
15 days ago

The part about the totalitarian desire to twist children reminds me of the Pavlik myth in the USSR.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Eloi
15 days ago

Think of the brainwashing as a form of Leftist reproduction.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
15 days ago

The section on education and the girl in Bali was striking. Make change? Dumb down to nonsense verbal pallliatives? Have a kid that has spent four grueling years earning two engineering degrees and currently works on LNG shipping. Making a difference? Half the shipments and offload facilities they are building are in third world countries where the LNG replaces oil, wood, charcoal and coal as a fuel. That is education that makes a difference. But is a lot harder than a gender studies degree or ranting about plastic bags.

Matt
Matt
15 days ago

It is perfectly clear that we are no longer a united people. No longer debatable. Divided by fundamental values that are not easily swayed or changed. There seems to be two parallel realities. One is the “Left” and the other the “Right”, spare me the labels. A geometric impossibility that is currently being forced into possibility. What happens when one attempts to break the stone cold laws of reality? Certainly nothing peaceful or joyful.

I pray for the Will to endure.

P.S.

Maryland has the coolest flag.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Matt
15 days ago

I’d suggest studying up on the American Revolution in the southern theater and the northern frontiers—that is what we are in for. Albeit may be more digital and economic vs. kinetic. Good example when you have two populations completely intertwined with irreconcilable differences. It was brutal.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  SamlAdams
15 days ago

The British were actually far less domineering in the lives of the colonists than the Left is today. The Stamp Act was small beans compared to today’s tyranny and surveillance.

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SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  DLS
14 days ago

But the colonist v colonist fights with a few British officers and Indians in for plunder were brutal.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Matt
15 days ago

I have my own business but I used to work corporate. When I worked corporate it was multi-ethnic and multi-racial. As long as I was in that setting my brain trained itself to work in such a way as to never venture into “bad thoughts” that might surface by me blurting out something. Z alludes to it as an electric fence. You just train yourself not to venture beyond it. When I quit and went on my own, all those bad thoughts that were always there but dormant sprang to life immediately. Obviously it was liberating. Normie is forced to… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Falcone
14 days ago

Yes- my antiTrump bestie growls like a dog who thinks you’re going to take its bone.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Falcone
14 days ago


The Left has never been known for its knowledge of human nature nor physical reality for the matter, nor for incorporating such knowledge into its plans and proposals for society.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
13 days ago

Afro-yenta lesbians erecting windmills to power a growing world, hahahaha

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theRussians
theRussians
Member
Reply to  Falcone
14 days ago

Received a notice of mandatory diversity training 2 days ago… Day before that was the increased enforcement of the mandatory mask policy. As the company rep on the construction site, I made it clear that I will not be enforcing the policy. Out of the 30 working night shift, only 2 always wear the face diaper. 600 healthy and active people employed, no Wuhan.
I have the luxury of not needing to work but spend a good part of my time looking for one of our communities and plan to move when the window appears.

Beetle McTurk
Beetle McTurk
Reply to  Falcone
13 days ago

An excellent point!

JR Ewing
JR Ewing
Member
Reply to  Falcone
12 days ago

This is a great point. I left corporate life about 12 years ago and started working for myself and have now made more money (and will make more money) than I ever would have by pulling a paycheck. But it was very scary to step out on my own and a lot of people just can’t b