The Bad Faith Society

Note: The weekly Taki post is up here. It somewhat ties into the post below. Behind the green door is a new post on the 1960 classic, The Apartment. This was my first viewing, so I was surprised to like it, even thought I did not get any of the jokes.


When two parties attempt to negotiate a deal, the starting assumption is both sides actually want a deal. That is not always the case, but if one side thinks the other side is not coming to the table in good faith, they are wise to break off negotiations. For starters, they are wasting their time, since there is no deal to be had. Second, a party that starts a negotiation with a lie is going to keep lying. If you cannot trust anything they are saying, or their intentions, you cannot reason with them.

A simple example of this is car buying. When a person walks onto the lot, the salesman is trained to look for the signs that the person is just a tire kicker. He may profile him based on his appearance. A young guy looking at expensive sedans is probably not a serious buyer, for example. He will ask questions to determine if the person is serious about buying a car and willing to entertain an offer. The point is, he is determining if the other side is open to reason and ready to bargain in good faith.

This is the heart of any negotiation. Both sides have to start with the belief that the other side is amenable to reason and is bargaining in good faith. They may have different goals and very different ways of negotiating, but both sides have to be open to reason and come to the table in good faith. In other words, both sides want to find a deal that satisfies both sides. Otherwise, both sides are just wasting their time and perhaps harming their own interests in the process.

This is also the basis for popular government, which is nothing more than a long public negotiation. The various interests in a society have their goals regarding the issues they see as important and they work the process that is setup for hashing out the particulars and promoting their case. The public is both the referee and a counterparty. They make their voice heard throughout the process. The politicians are the hired negotiators, tasked with hashing out a compromise that satisfies the majority.

Like the simple deal between two parties, the democratic process relies on all sides being reasonable and operating in good faith. Sure, there are always bad actors trying to fool the public or game the process. The system, through elections, debates, public hearings, and investigations, is supposed to flush out the bad actors or at least correct what they have done after it is discovered. It may not be pretty, but the point is for reasonable people acting in good faith to reach a compromise.

What happens when the parties are not open to reason and they are not operating in good faith when they bargain? In a business negotiation, this often results in one side or the other breaking of negotiations. One side sees that the other is lying or up to shenanigans, so they stop wasting their time. This happens a lot, so firms train their people to look for the signs, so they do not waste their time. The most valuable commodity is time so you cannot waste it on bad deals.

In a democratic system of government, there are supposed to be rules to punish those who do not argue in good faith. Politicians who take bribes, for example, are removed from office and sent to prison. Interests that misrepresent themselves or defraud the public see their interests destroyed as a way to discourage the practice. There are laws that allow the media and the public to examine the claims of the various parties in order to root out corruption and deception. That is the theory, leastways.

That is clearly not where America is right now. Liberal democracy has evolved into one giant game of liar’s poker. Much like the financial markets, the big players in the system no longer have respect for the spirit of the rules. They never come to any deal in good faith and they are never open to reason. They want to “win” the deal by getting all of what they want at the expense of the other parties. In modern liberal democracy, no one is acting in good faith and no one is open to reason.

It is not just the big interests gaming the system. The system itself has been gamed to the point where only a sucker operates in good faith. The politicians, instead of operating as brokers and negotiators, are middlemen facilitating the looting of the system by the big players. Public debate is now a game of shadows, because the mass media lies about everything and is always pushing an agenda on behalf of the big players or their politicians working on their behalf.

Of course, the old adage about always knowing who the sucker in the room is when in a room full of sharps applies here. In the great hall that is where negotiations happen in a liberal democracy, the monied interests, the politicians, the media, and the shadowy players of the permanent ruling class put on a negotiating show. The public, until very recent, was never sure who was being conned by the grifters. As the saying goes, they were always the sucker in the system.

This is the heart of the current crisis. The reason the financial markets keep needing bailouts is because everyone inside that system is a liar. No one comes to a deal in good faith and no one is willing to reason with the other side. Everyone is trying to take advantage of everyone else. In a system of zero social trust, entropy is inevitable, which in human systems means collapse. This is why the financial markets careen from crisis to crisis, needing bailouts from the public.

Liberal democracy is mirroring the financial markets. This makes perfect sense, as the entire culture has been financialized. Republican virtue was removed from the official system long ago. What remained of it with the general public went away with the events of the last few years. America now finds itself in a world where no one acts in good faith and no one is open to reason. We have reached the point where we need a bailout, but there is no bailout for a liberal democracy that fails.


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Hun
Hun
3 years ago

There was a saying in the Eastern-European commie countries: “He who does not steal is robbing his family”, meaning, in a broader sense, that rules are for suckers.
People realized that and over time found thousands of little ways how to game the oppressive system to make relatively normal life possible.
It’s time for Heritage-Americans to learn to do the same.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

I think it has started. The very last segment of the populace, and the largest, was the last to resist social welfare programs and other government gibs. Now that the country stands naked and is exposed as fake and gay, that resistance has started to disappear. This happened over the course of a single generation.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

One of the core principles of the normie right has been fiscal responsibility. It stems from families that always tried to responsibly make ends meet. They expected the same behavior from their Government. Now that most people realize it’s impossible to be fiscally responsible in the current system, and they are just suckers, they want their portion of the loot.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Slowly at first and then all at once.

Juri
Juri
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Western Europeans are not such a weasels as we are. Your people refusing even to call communism a communism. What resistance can be there, when people do not even understand what the problem is. There was no theft in the Lenin and Stalin era, when true believers were in charge. Your AOC and The Squad are not friendly Brezhnev who did not care and let the people have some stuff.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Juri
3 years ago

The founding problem with America imo, is that many of the colonists came to get rich, not to find a new home. That looter mentality is still with us.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Yep. I’ve always opposed student loan forgiveness on principle alone. But if it happens, I will take advantage to the hilt. Why stand on principle when the Power Structure is a consistory of grifters who have been grifting at the expense of me and my people all along?

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usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Yes, the last great gift from our rulers and betters. The degradation of our culture and society is virtually complete and the corrupters and their tactics are out in open for all to see. Now that segment of the population that’s always tried to play by rules sees the lay of the land and begins to figure, wtf – might as well get some while there’s still some to get. Well, it was a decent run (until recently) while it lasted.

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Hud to his honorable father: “Better dip your bread into the gravy while it’s still hot”, or something to that effect.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Yea but what are you going to do when it only applies to everyone but you and those like you…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

Hopefully, when it gets to that point, we will be in a state of open rebellion.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

I bet nullification catches on soon. Maybe natural law would be a good starting point. As in we have a natural right to disobey unjust laws.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

I don’t think that option is on the table for us anymore we have moved past it with breakneck speed headed towards the last box…

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

Fair enough. Call it de facto rebellion 🙂

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

Ballot box, jury box, cartridge box.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Hopefully, or they can alter things like they did in Oregon for dealing wirh their sovereign citizen “problem”… require a two person minimum to hang a jury. They will always change the rules until they win or the time of rules is a quaint thing of the past.

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DLS
DLS
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

In Missouri, some Repubs are trying to nullify federal gun laws. This probably won’t work unless they go full on sanctuary mode, like liberal states have done on immigration. Bring it on!

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

Perfect example.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Then Ostei, my Brother, if this is your hope then hopefully you are doing what you need to do now. Preparations done in the darkness during peace will make your successes during the time of open rebellion that much more practical and survivable.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Student loans used to be able to be discharged in bankruptcy. It ended because of massive abuse and the beginning of the “everybody goes to college” phenomena. (For fun search colleges and/or universities with the lowest graduation rates.)

guest
guest
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

Fallacy. There were other ways to fix that problem such as minimum grade requirements.
The Student Loans became a reliable source of collateral that could then be rehypothecated to crap by Wall Street.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

You’re not only seeing this with the Government, but with every institution that has become semi-cucked. It isn’t even a matter of protesting and getting angry, but just people rolling their eyes with contempt, ignoring it, and doing their own thing. They aren’t even bothering to argue anymore. My Diocese in consolidating parishes into ‘families’ to deal with a Priest shortage, and like most Dioceses the top is littered with either SJWs or nice boomer civnats. There hasn’t been a whole lot of protest, but what there has been are a lot of parishes and people planning on just ignoring… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Which makes you wonder. If it’s order out of chaos, where does the order come from? Corporations, like the church did after Rome?

I don’t get it— maybe I’m dense. If commerce is the new religion, how does it maintain itself when everyone is broke? At least the commies came into it saying it was all for all. I don’t see the mindset that sustains the effort— the legitimacy, in other words.

My guess is things get very hard, and something new comes from the emerging tribalism.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Better get going on the tribalism because you don’t want to be trying to start it when everyone has theirs and is coming for you…

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

It’s built-in where I’m at. The problem I’m having is convincing people to stay. We have great strength in numbers, yet some still think they’d fare better by scattering.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Why are they leaving if it’s really because they think they will be better off alone then you don’t want those anyway…

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

They think there’s some Idaho or West Virginia where they’ll be left alone. I think it’s post-election shock that’ll pass soon enough.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Well it’s that or they see that maybe where you are at is vulnerable even if you have tribe because of different factors like geography, demographics, climate, resources, etc…

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

People here have been fighting off encroachment for generations, so it’s part of the culture. Honestly I think it’s that the current crop has been demoralized and the other side emboldened. A lot of people on both sides think this is the decisive moment.

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Drew
Drew
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Order comes from success. Whoever strikes first at an organizational principle that takes the chaos and provides leverage over others will find lots of imitators quite quickly.

Boinga Boinga
Boinga Boinga
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Flee the Novus Ordo! Be somebody!

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Boinga Boinga
3 years ago

Done and done. There’s an ICKSP Parish we just went to a few weeks back. Packed, with maybe three people wearing masks after only opening five years ago. Sure, they *recommend masks out of respect for the Bishop’s mask mandate*, but really LOL. In a sane society, they would take that model and reproduce it for every struggling Parish, but instead we get a lot of ra-ra writings and ineffective programs straight from the eighties. Our Bishop is your typical milquetoast man who you can work with but can never expect to stick his neck out in danger. Hoping we… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by Chet Rollins
Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Ironic that the wanton destruction of civil society may create an alternative civil society.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

DC is a cesspool of corruption and degeneracy. It must fall before there can be any redemption. And a fast collapse means a higher bottom and less pain for everyone over the long run. And as was demonstrated on Jan 6th, the Jackboots will kill any direct confrontation, so corrosion must be the default. And the first & best form of corrosion is to suck the Treasury dry as fast as possible.

Technojunkie
Technojunkie
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

Tom Baugh’s “Starving the Monkeys” is the healthy application of this concept. Excellent book. We may be beyond “healthy” being possible though.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Technojunkie
3 years ago

Yea that book would of worked if everyone did it when it first came out but now that monkey is well fed and coming for you…You can figure out what comes next if we are to survive…

Boinga Boinga
Boinga Boinga
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

Great point, very interesting. A govenment, or society, that forces its citizens to be criminals needs to be overthrown

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

Good point on bad faith making impossible any dealings or compromise. The other day Ted Cruz and the odious AOC managed to find a subject they agreed upon. (Can’t remember what it was, I’ve moved beyond paying much attention to what my oppressors do).

AOC managrd to insert that Ted Cruz tried to have her killed. Given, she is a Motard (motivated retard for her causes) but even the most tentative of agreements are now beyond attainement for these vermin. Ridiculous.

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c matt
c matt
Reply to  Penitent Man
3 years ago

Think it had to do with the freeze on the Game stop short squeeze.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

I believe you mean (((commie))) countries.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Everyone is trying to take advantage of everyone else. It’s the “Jewification” of society. Jews, more or less, have taken control of the country, or, at the very least, haven taken enough control that the old, high-trust system can no longer function. When it was just a few Jews taking advantage of a few goys here and there, the overall system could still function, but when the grifters become the system, it can’t work. You saw that on Wall Street last month. Jews were playing the system, and the Reddit spergs started playing the Jews. The system starts to crack.… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

1. Judaify the top
2. Africanize the bottom
3. ???
4. Mars!

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Dershowitz nominates Kushner for a peace prize. Thanks for my daily laugh Mr. Porn-is-free-speech!

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Dershowitz, whom I respect—is a Jew. They all support Israel for the most part. Payback I guess to a fellow Jew who serves the interests of Israel well, even if not the USA.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

Sure looks like it. Kushner, not Trump. Duly noted.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

This a truth more and more are beginning to see.

My Comment
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Yeah. When you analyze the current situation and leave out the JQ you are just skirting around the edges. Not acting in good faith, scamming high trust people, and gaming the system are all historical characteristics of a certain tribe. After all, 9 of the top 10 ponzi schemes have been run by the tribe. Wall Street scams, impeachment (both the first and second), claims of white privilege, backing of BLM and race hoaxes, our international villain du jour, on and on it is all being led by the tribe. To not acknowledge that is to ignore reality which is… Read more »

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Some Guy
Some Guy
Reply to  My Comment
3 years ago

One upside to the death of civic nationalism is that it will be much easier to question the antics of the levantines. In many circles, guys will foam at the mouth and go into conniption fits if you mention them. Israel First has been rapidly deflating these last few weeks.

Some Guy
Some Guy
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

This ties a lot in with Z’s article on the death of civic nationalism. Without it, the grifter class no longer has the cover to operate. It will either shrink or rely more on brute force and even the latter has a short shelf life. The chosenites at the top wanted to accelerate their schemes but they moved too fast. When OWS and the tea party happened, they hit the pedal to the metal on anti-whiteness. It was a bold gamble but it’s created too many cracks in the system. They have no choice but to keep accelerating. They had… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
3 years ago

Representative government works only as long as the constituent groups want to achieve the same ends but disagree on the means. Once these groups want incompatible ends, the good faith that representative government requires vanishes.

If you’re sharing a car with another person and you agree on the destination, you may disagree about the best route to take and there is no serious problem. If the two occupants of the car want to go to different destinations, there can be no cooperation.

The homogeneity of your country matters much more than the economic system.

Last edited 3 years ago by LineInTheSand
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

An analogy so simple even I can understand it and explain it to anyone over 10 yrs. of age – and yet a stark truth is conveyed.
I expect to make good use of it.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

Thanks, bud

Charles St. Charles
Charles St. Charles
3 years ago

The root (the rot?) of our breakdown is diversity, and the resulting disintegration of social trust. The worst effect of diversity is not that Whites don’t trust the non-Whites thrust upon them, but that they no longer trust each other. It’s not going to get better. From Robert Putnam’s “E Pluribus Unum”: “Diversity does not produce ‘bad race relations’ or ethnically-defined group hostility, our findings suggest. Rather, inhabitants of diverse communities tend to withdraw from collective life, to distrust their neighbours, regardless of the colour of their skin, to withdraw even from close friends, to expect the worst from their… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by Charles St. Charles
Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  Charles St. Charles
3 years ago

I’m currently watching a Russian made production of the rise of Catherine the Great (Ekaterina). So far it’s mostly about her dealing with her weirdo husband and his psychopathic aunt, the Russian Empress (Elizabeth). It’s set in the mid-1700s and a European war is about to break out. It struck me – why are these people always in conflict with one another as they are all essentially Germanic? Is it the inbreading and subsequent pathology of the ruling class, some other unnamed irritant, or an unholy combination of the two? Even though we’re not fighting physical wars with each other… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Peabody
3 years ago

War is the health of the state. The people see you as a father, with all that entails. The nobles are would-be rebels and usurpers. The church has everybody’s soul. It’s a lot to manage.

Charles St, Charles
Charles St, Charles
Reply to  Peabody
3 years ago

Agreed that we Whites inflicted more damage on ourselves in the 20th Century than any outside race could have – especially in Europe..

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Charles St, Charles
3 years ago

Imo thank the French revolutionaries for turning all of society into a war machine.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Peabody
3 years ago

It has ever been thus. Competition for land and resources is the warp and weft of history, and that competition frequently comes in the form of war. And it’s all against all, too–brother wars, imperial conquest, barbarians against civilizations and civilizations against barbarians. It’s what we are as a species.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Goes back to Cain and Abel.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
3 years ago

There are suckers all around these days. The mask lets me know. Seeing these simpletons walking around, wishing others safe, carrying on as if we’re really facing extinction… I wonder, have we ever had quite so many suckers who are so sure of themselves?

I suppose that’s the good thing about adopting what some may call a ‘criminal mindset’. You see the sheep. You don’t sympathize with them, and you can use them to your advantage. Bad as it sounds, that’s where we’re at these days. Still, life is struggle so it goes.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Sadly, it emboldens the worst of our ruling class to see these mind-numbed robots deciding whether to wear two or three masks today since shopping will be involved.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

That these things are even entertained is the most astounding part. Two masks, three masks, or more? If someone thinks that the ‘science’ says it is so, then well dammit, it must be so!

I was about to ask myself ‘who actually cares about this stuff to this level of crazy?’, then I realized: quite a lot of people do. Above all, it is the niceness of these middle class types I find most infuriating. That quality is most welcome is a stable, decent society – but now it seems a real liability.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

US CDC has mandated two masks on all US public transportation.

We’ll see triple masks and bum swabs next week.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

I’ll use my right boot for a bum swab on anybody who tries that with me.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Good God. Here’s hoping that we don’t have to see The Pretender being publicly swabbed by AOC on the White House lawn – for the virtue signal win. One cannot put anything past these tools.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

The anal swab might be kind of amusing.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

Well then the whole world would get to see Xi’s hand up there…

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

In no particular order:
laugh
cry
hurl

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

Simultaneously?

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Well, maybe if it were the reverse… Although anything including gibbering Joe will be nasty regardless.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

We could use many more Dirty Harrys and far fewer Ned Flanders.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Okely-dokely, neighbor! 🙂

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

I’ll take that daisy off your hands and give you a 10-petal enema. 🌹

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Shit, I’d settle for more Philo Beddoes and fewer Homer Simpsons.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Adopting such a mindset might be fine for someone with adult (or maybe even teen) children. But with young kids, the last thing you want is mom or dad to lose their job, be locked up, or worse, CPS shows up at your house because you weren’t wearing a mask and were reported by some Stasi Karen.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  BadThinker
3 years ago

That’s why I’ve been shouting from the rooftop that Community matters and if you don’t have it then build it if you can where you are at or move if you can’t…

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  BadThinker
3 years ago

If we have any Karens in my small Argentine village, they know to keep their heads down, but somehow I doubt any exist, much less one who would call CPS, the local version of which would be loath to take such a call over masking. The local consensus is that masking is done only to protect local biz folks from being fined. Signals are given to steady customers if there’s an inspector around, but if there isn’t, it’s a pretty lax “requirement”: just have one hanging around your neck, please. Pedestrians rarely bother with them. That’s how it should be,… Read more »

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RabbiHighComma
RabbiHighComma
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.” – Mark Twain

Boinga Boinga
Boinga Boinga
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

“Wishing others safe” haha! Nation of p*ssies.

usNthem
usNthem
3 years ago

This former country has become a complete joke, both internally and internationally. Why any country worldwide would show any respect or deference to this dump is a mystery – well I guess we still have nukes and bluster. If only we had the integrity of Myanmar.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Myanmar is China furthering its BRI project.

The tough talk out of Potato Joe is to maintain kayfabe.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
3 years ago

Slightly OT: I found something fascinating over the weekend. The New Yorker ran a long article about the Maoist Revolution and it’s awful similarity to where we are headed as a country with the arbitrary and every shifting laws. The struggle sessions, cancel culture, marginalizing of people w/ traditional values, etc. It was this long well researched article and the whole time I was thinking, “Wow, I’m surprised the New Yorker would allow such unfiltered honesty out into the world”. Because they wouldn’t. I’ll save you a lot of time. In the last few paragraphs after pages and pages of… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

There is a bit of a Don Quixote vibe to whole thing, but with us as the targets instead of windmills, and instead of Don Quixote being an unknown loon he is dictator of the land.

Average Josephine
Average Josephine
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

Probably they are trying to plant firmly in people’s minds that Maoists have been identified and are Trumpists, therefore people who oppose Trump are not Maoists. Anti-maoists by definition cannot be Maoists, cannot be totalitarian.
It’s the same technique used by Antifa to hide their fascism by loudly accusing their opponents of fascism, and by Antiracists to hide their racism by loudly accusing their opponents of racism.
Their alternative reality is only knee-deep and they know it, but they are hoping we don’t realize we can just stand up and not drown.

Epaminondas
Member
3 years ago

The grifting seems to correlate perfectly with the rate of money creation. Since our financial masters are hooked on easy money like a heroin addict, I think we are beginning to see the endgame. Stay debt free, keep some gold and silver around, and put a lot of distance between you and big cities.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
3 years ago

This, yesterday’s “Dissolution” piece, and your Taki column today are about as good of an explanation as I’ve read for the current state of affairs. I had assumed it would take a humiliating military defeat and/or another financial crisis to turn Americans against their government but neither of those were needed in the end. What brings about disintegration, since reform no longer is possible, remains to be seen but the State is on increasingly thin ice. Last week’s ludicrous arrest of a political prisoner and intensified censorship regime, coupled with the revelation of American markets as manipulated and fraudulent, marked… Read more »

v_cog
v_cog
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

I think we all recognize the Gray Man Option but I never had a name for it before now, nice. I’ll be using that one in the future (the name and the option itself). I do hope however that all of the conscientious hard-working whites taking that option will someday get the opportunity to band together explicitly in their own common interest. Perhaps sometime after the inevitable collapse and Balkanization / Brazilification. I hope I live long enough to see it..

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  v_cog
3 years ago

Where there’s a will, there’s a way. People in the past have gotten the jackboot good and hard, and now it’s our turn to have our jacobs in the vise. Twas ever thus.

But learning new skills (in either a new field, or your existing one) and looking out for your immediate community are of course the most important things to do immediately. Having children and educating them yourself if possible is also a must.

Now more than ever it is time to use your eyes and your brain.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Yea I wonder how many kulaks thought the same thing…If we just stay quiet and hide in our homes maybe they won’t get to us…I will let you in on a little secret if you’re white you can’t hide…If we don’t band together we deserve everything and we will for damn sure burn in the camps…This is why they are doing this shit to us because no one has banded together to be a stop against it…

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

For the millennials: look and move like an NPC, but don’t think like an NPC.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

H.R. 127 will be the one to watch. Gun grabbing at it’s absolute finest. Registration, psych evals, 24 hours of training, large portions of commonly held firearms to be designated “military style” with punitive $$/registration requirements.

Can we just make handguns illegal for 15-35 year old black men and take suicides out of the “gun deaths” stats? That would pretty much do the trick.

Not the point, of course.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

I read through that thing – typical political gobbledegook, but pretty draconian. I wonder how they think they’ll enforce compliance and if they realistically can? That’d be a YUGE nut to crack and I doubt it can be anywhere near accomplished. I guess they figure if they can get away with 1st amendment type crap, they can ride roughshod here as well – I don’t think so. However, you’re totally correct about blacks. Frankly, it should be illegal for any of them to own a firearm, but of course the vast majority used in their never ending shootings are illegal… Read more »

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

I used to say “no way”, but today who knows. What I find “interesting” is how punitive the bill is. You look at the penalties and you realize—if you’ve half a brain—that we do not punish capital crimes such as murder and rape as harshly. And by that, I mean that the minimal, mandatory penalties are greater than the typical penalties for most capital crimes. It’s like a law that mandates summary execution for running a red light. Gun owners are used to harsh penalties, but this?

Milestone D
Milestone D
3 years ago

Mr. Z: I shared your latest Taki’s article with a number of friends and family … and it really resonated. I expected a fair amount of push back, especially from older family members who are (or were) the poster children for CivNat-ism. I received nothing but strong approval for the ideas in your article. So, while it’s just an anecdote, my sense is that (once again) you’re right on the money. GOP Inc is at best a hospice patient. One response I got: “no one can fail so spectacularly for so long without meaning to lose.”

OffByOne
OffByOne
3 years ago

Nice analogy to financial markets, and by not having any form of bailout we’ll have a ‘legitimacy crisis’, as you’ve pointed out before.
In this case, I think we’ll see more of something that could be called an institutional arbitrage, where the managerial class takes an idea from one institution and sells it through another. For instance, the idea of ‘systemic racism’ gets sold as a public health crisis that needs to be addressed by the CDC, e.g., vaccine roll-outs, or perhaps it’s sold as a fiscal crisis that will need to be addressed by the Fed.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
3 years ago

Money may not be the root of all evil, but greed very nearly is. The damage it causes is comprehensive and profound. But, if you had tried to tell me that 20 years ago, I would have laughed in your face and called you a pinko. It seems the farther right I moved culturally, the farther left I moved fiscally, although I’m still nobody’s socialist.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Both movements are rational given conditions.

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Socialism does nothing to prevent anyone living under it from becoming greedy. Particularly the people who get to decide how the distribution goes.

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Culture is bad for business. People without a strong sense of identity usually try to fill the hole with money and stuff.

Like you, I went culturally right, fiscally left. I think it’s because money and all that means less to me now. As long as people are expected to be reasonably self-sufficient, the rest is negotiable imo.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

I wonder how much we have lost on the social scale because of what we have been forced to do by the government…I know I would be a lot more giving than I am now if I knew my giving was actually helping my people and I wasn’t forced to give so much bro the government…

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

So much I doubt those of us today can fathom it. I can hardly imagine the local church and social clubs providing welfare in more than a superficial way, or even communities governing themselves without looking over their shoulders for the state and the feds, taking grants from them, etc. It’s tragic.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. 1 Timothy 6:6-10 (NIV)

TomA
TomA
3 years ago

Yes, things really have gotten that bad. Waking Up To Reality (cont) For 200 years, the USA was a frontier nation, and hard times & a hard environment made for hard men. That, and abundant resources, propelled us to the top of the heap. But those days are long gone and we now live in soft times, with an extinction of real hardship, and the era of Couch Potato Man is upon us. That is why we elect Corruptocrats and mortgage our future for added comfort in the present. And it cannot last, should not last, and will not last.… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

But what does Don Bongino have to say about all this?

he he he

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

Bongino is laughing all the way to the bank. All the couch potato civnat’s are flocking to his neo-neoconservative shtick in which snark substitutes for courage and outrage substitutes for action. He can’t say 3 words without hurling invective at the Bad Guys, which is the key plank of his political counteroffensive. He notes that half the GOP are backstabbing traitors, but vote harder anyway because the Ds are somehow worse than a backstabber on your own team.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Once they say “vote harder”, I’m gone. Even Rush no longer says that. He basically lays it out on the line that the Dems/Leftists want to make voting ceremonial and impossible to use to change the situation. In short, they want to assume absolute power from now on by undermining any institutions that may potentially stand in the way of their assuming and maintaining absolute power. As he discusses elections, he also mentions SCOTUS as In the crosshairs and the shenanigans of creating more States and doing away with the Electoral College. Nothing we’ve not discussed here previously, but is… Read more »

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

Rush Limbaugh is on the radio today telling his Civ Nat audience that Civ Nat ideology is dying of terminal cancer too.
Interesting to hear Rush lay it on the line about what a predicament civic nationalism has found itself in 2021.

WCiv...---...
WCiv...---...
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

I wonder if the magnitude of the corruption so prevalent in our government will ever become widely known. At the rate that the evidence, the monuments and the books are being cleansed or removed, how will future generations learn the truth? It is the victors who write it. America or Rush? Which is failing faster? At least Rush is fighting his illness. Who will provide the autopsy for America? Covid? White people? Our racist founders? Store Zman’s essays in a hermetically sealed lock box for posterity’s sake.

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Boinga Boinga
Boinga Boinga
3 years ago

Great article in Taki! Z is a 21st century “pamphleteer”!

In fact, there is growing suspicion that civic nationalism was always a lie. It was a way to keep middle-class whites from seeing who was subverting their society and corrupting their culture.

Reading about immigration legislation at the turn of the century proves that “Civic Nationalism” of the Ben Shapiro variety, was indeed an invasive ideology.
White identity was integral to “the system” at one time. Then the system changed to exclude the biological identity of the West, somehow. Its a real (bloody) head scratcher.

Name
Name
Reply to  Boinga Boinga
3 years ago

“…suspicion that civic nationalism was always a lie…” That there is the biggest problem TPTB faces. What happens when no one buys, “we need you to send your sons off to some fly-blown place to get their legs blown off”, or “we need you to throw away perfectly good TVs (phones, etc.) and “upgrade” to these here new ones” … or… Whatever it may be that benefits someone not named YOU. And for kicks, while expecting, demanding these things of you, they demonize you. Sure, how they gonna put that genie back in the bottle? Create more willing “Gold Star… Read more »

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Name
3 years ago

Force is the last option of Tyranny…We know it’s coming but people still yet are dallying like they just can’t bring themselves to let go of the illusions…

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Name
3 years ago

Imagine this happens:

Jose, Pajeet, and Banjooo from Somalia start calling white Americans un-patriotic and traitors for not wanting to fight America’s wars while they gladly agree to be sent off. Assuming they win whatever war it is, they return and for the next two generations the talk on the street is that white people are traitors and deserve everything that has come down on them.

And that becomes the official position of the government too.

She Was A Constitution Nut
She Was A Constitution Nut
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

That’s a plausible theory of demonization, and we ought to expect it. A weakness of the unwhites’ accusation, however, appears when we consider motivations for U.S. militarism, esp. Zionism and MIC revenues. Unwhite bigots will need to answer for their collaboration. They will cry tu quoque, of course, to which the rebuttal will be ‘not anymore’.

Hertzog
Hertzog
Reply to  Falcone
3 years ago

There is no way Jose, Pajeet, and Banjoo (or, more aptly, Abdi Mohammed) from Somalia can win any war they fight. Before they even get ambushed and blown up by the enemy, they will cut each other’s throats at camp in an argument over which meat is kosher or not to eat.

AntiDem
AntiDem
3 years ago

Sulla tried to bail out the Roman Republic by arriving with an army, forcing a bunch of reforms (which were actually quite well thought out and might have stabilized the republic for centuries to come) down their throats against their will, then giving up power and retiring. Then one day he died, and once they were no longer afraid of his sword, the Senate undid every single one of the reforms he had forced on them, and went right back to business as usual.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  AntiDem
3 years ago

Reminds me of post-Franco Spain and, to an extent, Ireland. It’s like the first chance they got at an honest election it was a vote for ‘Debauchery Now!”

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
3 years ago

I repeat: the system is not broken. All the laws and procedures to deal with today’s problems and issues are in place and codified right into law. Gift wrapped, on a silver platter – complete with precedents. Show me any current beef the dissident right has – and I can probably show you a legal remedy codified into law. A constitutional scholar will be able to cite chapters and verses – I have seen them do it. Your founding fathers knew what they were doing. We have a PEOPLE problem. You dissidents can dream up any system you want –… Read more »

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Blame the people if you must, but don’t ever speak ill of the system! The system is rock solid. The system is sound.

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

Trust the plan.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Moe Noname
3 years ago

At some point you will need a plan… and I have not seen one yet. The dissidents might want to think about this.

Point of Order
Point of Order
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

At some point you will need a plan…and I have not seen one yet.

That plan has been offered for years: secession. You just haven’t been listening.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Point of Order
3 years ago

Wasn’t that tried about 150 years ago? Say, how’d that turn out, anyway?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

By hook or by crook, we will have to do it again. And 2021 is parsecs away from 1861.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

It will be neither. It will be blood and steel.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Point of Order
3 years ago

I am always happy to listen to the crime thinkers and dissidents. But peaceful secession is not in the works. Sure – you guys would be pleased as punch with it (as would I) – but the joggers, the welfare class, the imported masses of third world trash… they won’t feed themselves. They will start to starve within 30 days of your secession with out you to feed them. When they get hungry, they are going to go hunting. You may laugh at me and call me a crackpot, but I believe a nasty war is now on our plate,… Read more »

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

Well, that’s the other thing, isn’t it? Everyone is bitching but nobody is proposing anything better.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

I don’t want to words in Glenfilthie’s mouth, but his point appears to be that good institutions run by evil men will perpetuate evil. Not because the institutions are intrinsically evil, but because evil people are skilled are perpetrating evil. Couple that with the blog post, and it should be obvious to even you that railing about laws and institutions instead of officials and administrators means you’re the sucker in the room. Good and evil are terms that apply to moral agents. People are moral agents, institutions are not. Direct your ire at evildoers, not their tools.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

Be that as it may, certain institutions more readily facilitate evil than others. The history of the USA–particularly from the 60s on–is the history of ever increasing institutional transmogrification. And we are now at the point that those institutions–along with the country–are no longer salvageable.

Black Flag
Black Flag
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

b b b but… if you tell three people to go vote and those three people each go tell three people and those people go tell… Glen Glen Glen… NO. we cannot fix the system. The system is already fixed… against the people. If the system is so sound then how did it become bastardized into the slimy remnant we see today? The laws are codified… but when the little people are powerless to utilize those laws against the ruling class then wtf good do the greatest fairest laws in all the land do? Even when the little guy finds… Read more »

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Black Flag
3 years ago

Partially correct. We cannot fix things because now, fully 50% of Americans are trying to destroy the laws and checks and balances that have sustained your republic for over 200 years. Tell you what: stretch some necks. Start with Pelosi, the Clintons and maybe a Bush. Rinse and repeat for other high profile unelected swamp creatures. The message goes out that any others in the Swamp that are caught doing what they did – will get the same treatment. To drain the swamp – you actually have to move water. The first round of executions would effectively serve to reboot… Read more »

Sjh
Sjh
Reply to  Black Flag
3 years ago

THANK you.

Sjh
Sjh
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

The institutions have been allowed too much power, and have been destroying alternate social support systems, and attacking masculinity and males with very little pushback….cuz “science” and “secular”, neither of which are…meanwhile importing “toxic masculinity” and high testosterone 3rd worlders. It’s ALL religion, humans will worship, whether it is government “experts”, or themselves (“I believe in me”). Laugh if you want, but satan is real, and there is little on earth more provable than Original Sin.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Sjh
3 years ago

what you just wrote does not prove original sin, all it shows is that the force/s which manipulates this world is evil.

v_cog
v_cog
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Good reminder that the Liberian Constitution was modeled after the US Constitution, complete with a Bill of Rights and everything. And look how they turned out. Even the most well thought out system in the world is useless if you have idiots running it.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  v_cog
3 years ago

Even the most well thought out system in the world is useless if you have idiots running it.

And that’s your problem, right there.
The idiots that you see are not running the system.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  v_cog
3 years ago

It wasn’t just modelled after the US Constitution (IIRC,) it was virtually verbatim. Derb did a podcast a while back where he mentioned all the countries that had adopted the US constitution in whole or in part. I wish I had bookmarked it.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

What? No ooks, eeks or ooga boogas added for clarity? No all mofos dun be made equal an sheeit?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  v_cog
3 years ago

A future ethnostate spinning off of the US will incorporate the hard lessons of American history into its fiber. Chief among them is that the franchise must be permanently and narrowly restricted.

Chester White
Chester White
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Men with property, perhaps?

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Chester White
3 years ago

I’d like to see women being barred from voting and politics too. They are just too emotional for the most part.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Chester White
3 years ago

We discuss this every few weeks, but don’t get very far. One thing we could do, is at least raise the voting age to something that approaches maturity in the 21st century, say 25 or 30.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

Another possibility is weighting the vote of certain groups more heavily than other groups. Perhaps women are allowed to vote, but their vote counts considerably less than that of most men.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  v_cog
3 years ago

They did pretty good actually, but your point is a good one. If you look at any flyblown, desolate third world chit hole banana republic – most of them will have flowery constitutions and bills of rights and freedoms with even loftier and more noble rhetoric than the American one.
Your Constitution is nothing more than a piece of paper. Contrary to the pot headed libertarians, it is NOT a suicide pact, or a license to commit “victimless crimes”.

OffByOne
OffByOne
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Yes, there is a people problem. But unfortunately a system is a function of its people.

Africa Addio is an example which demonstrates this dependence.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  OffByOne
3 years ago

I just read the Wikipedia entry for the film. What’s most striking is the blurb for the American version. It is a happy-face propaganda piece of the bright future awaiting Africa, now that the evil white man is routed. Woke progressivism was alive and well even fifty years ago! Heavily sanitized, 40 minutes cut out.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Wokeness is nothing new. It’s the same junk from the 1960s on steroids.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Yes, but I’d argue we had the excuse of naivety in the 60’s. We no longer have that excuse. If you still believe in the same utopia from the 60’s being implemented as you thought would work then, you are simply a brain dead ideologue.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

Well that is one difference. 60s AWRs were more utopian. Today’s AWRs are more nihilistic.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  OffByOne
3 years ago

A system is a function of it’s designers, not it’s users. An automobile is a system. It’s functional ability is predicated on its design. However, it’s ongoing operation is a function of the driver and maintenance person. Skilled, intelligent drivers can make nearly any car go anywhere, but some cars are definitely easier to operate and maintain while others are difficult. The main thing is to note the difference between design/designer and operation/operator. Sometimes they’re the same but most times are different.

OffByOne
OffByOne
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

Fair point: any system that receives no feedback from its users has no dependence on them by definition. In your example, the functional ability of a automobile is the system (presumably the theoretical ability, or while it’s still on the lot), which is dependent upon the design, hence the designers. Having no user, it has no dependence on them.
However, if instead your system was the current functional ability of your automobile (which is a definition more relevant to these discussions), then it now becomes a function of its users.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

The American vehicle was originally designed to transport only white people. Alas, it has been modified into an unrecognizable monstrosity that now automatically ejects whites and puts negroes in the driver’s seat.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Spinning rims and gold trim optional. 🙂

Member
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

The engine now directly drives the rims, leaving the wheels stationary. The hope is that when the engine reaches 1,000,000,000 rpm the rims will generate enough wind for the car to fly.

AntiDem
AntiDem
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

The idea that we can be governed by impersonal laws, and not by men, has been the bullshit idea at the heart of liberalism since at least the 18th century. Any system based on it is doomed to… well, to what’s going on now.

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Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  AntiDem
3 years ago

The premise is Judaic. That the law exists outside the men existin under it. That premise was inherited to a lesser degree by Christianity.

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

It’s not our so-called leaders. It’s the people the leaders are leading. Cassius and Pogo…

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

Excellent. This is the crux of the problem. WE let this happen. We The People. The fact that Donald Trump is the best leader we have been able to produce in the western world in over 30 years… should tell you something. And this is not the fault of you younger guys, the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of men like me. Buckley would mouth off and we’d take it. The left was already showing signs of lunacy and we shrugged and let them get away with it. At the time, we Paleocons and other Yesterday Men were shouted… Read more »

Black Flag
Black Flag
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

I disagreed with your earlier statement regarding legal remedies but this is spot on until the last sentence. I’m a millennial and it frustrates me to no end when people on our side decry my generation as if it sprung out of thin air. I didn’t create my generation, YOU ALL did. It’s like Dr. Frankenstein being pissed that the monster he created runs amuck and screws everything up. When I selectively tell people I voted for Trump they often ask why I’m “so republican” bc most millennials lack the acumen to understand political concepts or positions outside RED TEAM… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

It IS a people problem in that the people running the system aren’t suited to the nation. So you have to ask how they got to be in that position, and if the answer is that the system didn’t prohibit it… it’s a systemic problem.

Or to put it more plainly, we were a Christian nation with secular laws. What could go wrong?

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Secular laws… to keep the Christians from killing each other.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Alzaebo
3 years ago

It was the Enlightenment and everybody was caught up in it. There’s nothing intrinsically Christian about killing your brother, or un-Christian about prohibiting it.

There larger point is keeping outsiders on the outside.

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

I think you miss a key point of the Founders: they explicitly set up a secular government, with secular laws, that was at least at first, neutral to religion, neither favoring nor restricting various faiths.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

John Adams had wise words about that: “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

She Was A Constitution Nut
She Was A Constitution Nut
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

As a practical matter, they imposed a second religion upon “the People” in whose name they set up their system, and scarcely a word of it is entailed by the trinitarians’ cult of Jesus. Hence the FF expected the populace to accept two false religions. No one ought to be surprised that it’s all turned out so badly.

Sjh
Sjh
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Secular is a myth. We currently have a nation full of communists, pagan state worshippers, full of zealotry and eager to kill infidels. Convincing Christians that government was a neutral “secular” referee was a trojan horse. Claiming that “science” (controlled by corporations and government) is rational and God is a “spaghetti monster in the sky” superstition, while at the same time pushing the superstition that scientific people management (by human “experts”)and child rearing will result in a magical utopia of sinless (by the humanists ever changing standards) humans is the real lie.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

You can’t escape your environment, as in you see the world through it. “Other faiths” really meant, a rare/occasional Jew, some Catholic papists, an a whole shit pile of reform Christian sects. That’s pretty homogenous in my thinking—and at that we had quite a few problems among them.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Don’t be preposterous.
We have anti-monopoly laws that were put specifically in place to prevent the crap coming out of the tech oligarchs. They should have been broken up long ago under that legislation. The problem is that people will not enforce existing law.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

I’m not saying Christian laws are the only solution to our problems, but it is a (so to speak) off-the-shelf solution for us westerners, with a long moral and economic tradition that suits us and served our ancestors well.

What puzzles me is why so many (not saying you) are repulsed by the idea when the vast majority would have little trouble adapting to laws that reflect the ethics they’re inured to. Especially when the loss of those ethics is what troubles so many of us.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

I’m not saying Christian laws are the only solution to our problems…
debating the benefits of christianity is like beating a dead horse, christian europe is no more, it was imposed on europeans by the rulers of those days and now it’s being removed by the rulers of our days.
but don’t worry, the israelites are working hard to come up with a new israelite messiah for europeans to worship.
Anti Christ basically means the new Christ or Christ’s replacement.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Yep it’s antichrist alright. Or judeo-christianity as they say these days. But 60 years of cultural revolution can’t undo 1500 years of culture.

I’m a Christian, and I know others aren’t, and that’s OK. It’s a workable solution, though. It seems to be doing Russia good, and they’ve been through far worse.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Imposed by the rulers of the day as in the ruler converted, so the people followed. But that was exchanging one religion and doctrine for another. Today was are abandoning a God base belief system, for an atheistic/humanistic alternative. I think that’s something entirely different—but that’s about the limit of my ability to explain.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  CompscI
3 years ago

Whatever it is, people act like lawmakers are God. Terrified to break the rules even when they know the rules are BS. A higher power is necessary.

She Was A Constitution Nut
She Was A Constitution Nut
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

I repeat: the system is not broken. Correct. The system is not broken, but you refuse to see its defective design, which favored totalitarians and Judean tapeworms all along. So Lord Macaulay was somewhat on the right path when when he wrote hyperbolically that “Your Constitution is all sail and no anchor”. You’re oblivious also to the weakness of soothing humanist lies such as “all Men are created equal” and “We the People”. These serve as rivets, bolts, and linchpins of the system and stimulate tolerance for “perverts, clowns, and low IQ ethnic mystery meat”. A properly conceived system would… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  She Was A Constitution Nut
3 years ago

I think someone had quipped here that if the current system exists within the confines of the constitution, then the constitution has to go; if not and the constitution was just unable to stop the lurch into the current madness then there’s no point going back to it since we’ll just wind up in the same mess again and again.

She Was A Constitution Nut
She Was A Constitution Nut
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

I first encountered that line of thinking about the C. in No Treason by Lysander Spooner (1808-1887), who grounded part of his criticism of the C on the fact that it wasn’t the product of consent of the people. He was badly bent out of shape by this preoccupation and by his abolitionism, and I think that this interferred with popularization of the main point of the three No Treason essays: The Constitution is fake law. Of course, most people are unfit for participation in government by virtue of low intelligence, poor character, abundant vices, bad temperament, or lack of… Read more »

Sjh
Sjh
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

If communists use the constitution to get the power of the guns of gov’t, but refuse to abide by it, that is a pretty obvious FLAW. The bst recourse is minimal gov’t, no “administrative agencies”, etc.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Well, communism would work fine as well if not for a people problem.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

It probably would. Unfortunately, it does nothing to account for real human nature, and makes ludicrous assumptions about the altruism of the human animal.
Capitalism does a better job of it, but not always.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

It bears repeating: what we call “Law” is arbitrarily interpreted and selectively applied based upon the characteristics of the persons involved.

v_cog
v_cog
3 years ago

The description of our republic as one big ongoing negotiation is an apt one. Of course, the democratic negotiation is simply a proxy for a much older negotiation. Namely: the power sharing negotiation between the elites and the commoners.
The elites seem to have forgotten this, and that is bad news for them. Because if the commoners walk away from that table, things will get very ugly very fast.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago
Kesselfieber
3 years ago

The republic itself was a mistake, a colossal historical blunder. Republics are never sustainable because of the requirements outlined in this article. Good faith is unsustainable when thugs and goblins abound and barbarians are *inside* the gate. Republics thus slowly devolve into, at first, tyrannical democracies and with the J*wish Circus fully established it all collapses into a dystopian nightmare. (((They))) love these kinds of systems because money is the chief arbiter of public discourse and egalitarianism enables the inversion of justice, beauty, and honor. It’s ironic to say this but true regardless: we need a totalitarian, right-wing dictatorship or… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by Kesselfieber
Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Kesselfieber
3 years ago

Horse hockey.

Kesselfieber
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

Just look at history. There’s an obvious & oft-repeated pattern:

republics are transient whereas monarchies endure & withstand the test of time.

Monarchies are ultimately superior because they are honor-based, not fueled by the greed of crass plutocracy.

A dictatorship is essentially a monarchy that hasn’t consolidated itself (yet).

And so I tell you all: from the ashes of Weimerica shall arise…the Aryan Reich!

It is a tidal and inevitable force. It is the writing on the wall. It is the ghost rhyme of the wall shadows of Dresden.

Sjh
Sjh
Reply to  Kesselfieber
3 years ago

Monarchs do not loot out their own kingdoms and weaken them. Some may be cruel, but they don’t import savages and barbarian hordes.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

Carl, or anyone else who disagrees, please elaborate on your disagreements, especially if you take issue with Kesselfieber’s “we need a totalitarian, right-wing dictatorship or maybe a monarchy…”

I’d like to hear your counter-arguments. Of course, Kesselfieber’s proposed solution has perils, but are they greater or more likely than the perils we presently face?

Thud Muffle
Member
3 years ago

What’s next on the mask front? Certified masks. No more homemade masks. Made in China masks provided by manufacturers who bribe the regulators. $29.95 at Target, discounted to $27.77 online. Next month the standard is upgraded and your current mask goes the way the one your wife made went. Rinse, repeat, Rinse, repeat.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Thud Muffle
3 years ago

Yep they use the excuse that so many of the conservatives had of this mask does nothing against them…Which goes to show you if you don’t push back at what really matters then they will just keep squeezing you…

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  Thud Muffle
3 years ago

Betty: “Did you SEE that Karen’s kids were only wearing a paper mask at the park while playing in the sun? She is SO inconsiderate. My co-workers 85 year old dad DIED the other day. MY kids only wear official Fauci-masks. I’m so afraid and my husband agrees.”

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Thud Muffle
3 years ago

I’m surprised they haven’t tried to roll out policing mask quality sooner.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Logistics Brother they didn’t have enough of them yet when they do from companies they have an investment in they will require them…

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
3 years ago

https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2020/06/19/on-cultures-that-build/

“The knowledge is gone. The cultural capital is gone; the society that produced those kinds of productive people hasn’t existed in decades.

The human material who would actually do the building is gone: dimwit MBAs destroyed the skilled working classes, atomized their communities, continue to demonize and demoralize them and utterly destroyed the kind of basic low level education and social cohesion required to have a productive workforce.”

Semi-Hemi
Semi-Hemi
3 years ago

OT, but, I saw The Apartment years ago and there is a scene in it you often saw in movies and tv back then. It’s the overdose on pills by the heroine who is brought back from certain death by a lone doctor carrying his black doctors bag. He goes into the bedroom and closes the door and comes out after he’s done and announces that it was close but she’s going to pull through. Zero explanation offered as to how this miracle was performed except his sleeves are usually rolled up and he never seems to need to wash… Read more »

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Semi-Hemi
3 years ago

Ah, the M.D. (more divine) with his little black case. See (or hear) Marvin Gaye’s “Sexual Healing” for the answer to your medical mystery. It’s Black History Month ya’all, let the celebrations of wokeness commence…

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Maus
3 years ago

Hope you are doing well Brother…

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Maus
3 years ago

“But you gave us the smallest month, Motherf**ker!” ☻

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Maus
3 years ago

Every month is Blak histree Mumpf.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Semi-Hemi
3 years ago

Must be a common plot device. This was used in the Kubrick film Eyes Wide Shut, except woman ODing on heroin. Also on at least one 70s/80s cop show, where they were trying to catch a killer who deliberately gave his female victim an OD of pills.

Semi-Hemi
Semi-Hemi
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Another variation on the theme is a woman about to give birth has her baby delivered by the star of the show, who goes into the expectant moms bedroom and closes the door and after a while you hear a baby crying and you know the rest.

Sjh
Sjh
Reply to  Semi-Hemi
3 years ago

This scene was modernized in “Almost Famous” in pretty graphic detail.

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

“The Markets” realized at some point that the best way to get money was to force the US government to give them billions of dollars to keep everyone from sinking into destitution. So, it’s more like a hostage negotiation where the hostage is in on it more than anything.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

Yes, due to so many Americans holding stock as part of their retirement plan and just the general financialization of the economy, the markets hold all the cards. The Fed and Congress have to do what the markets want.

That said, the Fed is running out of bullets. Lowering interest rates is no longer effective. Debt is generating less and less economic activity. The real fear is what happens if the Fed and Congress inject all kinds of money into the system, but the markets don’t care.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

I used to think that the Fed was running out of bullets, but the Obama-era “largest stock market bull run in history” changed my mind.

Until our military dominance and our petrodollar advantage fail, the USA has infinite money. QE infinity.

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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

Oh yeah, I talking very long term, not investment advice.

Personally, I like a mix of buy-and-hold with cheap index funds (VT and AGG or VGIT) and an ensemble dual momentum TAA strategy such as AllocateSmartly’s Meta Strategy. B&H bonds for guaranteed safety (for now), B&H stocks in case the market keeps rising and TAA for some flexibility. Keep a bit in gold. Buy some land if you can. That combo should work for just about anything.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

My “play money” is mostly in Natural Gas and a few Coal companies. Lately I’ve taken up options and have some cheap puts against various “alternative energy” firms. If you’ve guessed I think green new deal is a big fraud doomed to fail, you’d be right 😀 Fortunately perhaps for me, my “retirement” money is not mine to control.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

It will fail when the gov. fails and not until then…Better divest yourself from coal because it is being phased out faster than you can imagine…Gas is still ok and they will be needing more of that in the future until someone decides the peasants don’t need reliable power anymore and then Gas will go down as well…

nunnya bidnez, jr
nunnya bidnez, jr
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

There is (apparently) a Dollar shortage all over the world. Any excess dollars printed by the Fed are being soaked up overseas, so it doesn’t have much effect on inflation here. Therefore our markets don’t care. BTW, for quite a while, overseas corporations have been issuing their stock denominated in Dollars rather than the local currency (issuing new shares of stock is similar to Fiat money, there’s not much behind it, other than the Faith and Credit of .. wait for it .. The USA). That’s one reason why there is a Dollar shortage around the world. I’ve read about… Read more »

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Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  nunnya bidnez, jr
3 years ago

The Milkshake Theory. Could be right. Certainly, a lot of dollars get soaked up to be used around the world. That said, the dollar is down more than ~10% against other currencies since March, so apparently the Fed is printing enough. The other issue is that the velocity of money has collapsed. Anyway, I’m not one of those guys saying the market or the dollar are going to come crashing down anytime soon – or ever. I’m just saying that the Fed and Congress are playing a dangerous game by being the backstop to the market every time it has… Read more »

nunnya bidnez, jr
nunnya bidnez, jr
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

agree

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

An investing guru, Jim Dines I think, famously noted that “A trend, once in motion, tends to continue until it ends.” 🙂 Applied to our financial house of prostitution, yes, the looting will almost certainly continue until the dollar (and perhaps the issuing government) is totally worthless. 🙁

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  nunnya bidnez, jr
3 years ago

Just wait til they need money to finance the $15/hr minimum wage

Where are all those dollars going to come from? Why banking interests like the min wage increase. It becomes the pretext for more money printing.

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

The S&P 509 is up 250% since the last recession (10 years). A 10 frigging year bull market with a +13.5% return per annum.

Nobody can time the market, but what is more likely during the next 12 months: the market goes up 30% or down 30%?

Meanwhile, the price of ammo has tripled / quadrupled, assuming you can find it. What does that tell you about future expectations?

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Moe Noname
3 years ago

H.R. 127, if it passes amended, will make firearms ownership cost prohibitive for darn near the whole country.

As it is intended to.

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  Moe Noname
3 years ago

The most likely scenario is that the market goes up 30% and the US government owes another 50 trillion dollars.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

What comes after a trillion?

Asking for a formerly friendly government.

Kweiler
Kweiler
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

A quadrillion.

Bruno the Arrogant
Bruno the Arrogant
3 years ago

If one were to conjure an image that represented the conservative movement, it would be a group of middle-aged white guys grinning like chimps while standing in front of an empty trophy case.

The image that always occurs to me is a bunch of old geezers huffing and puffing as they’re trying to haul a casket through a cemetery.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
3 years ago

Biden “winning”, woke up a lot of suckers. Turning off tv’s, ditching phones, buying silver, homeschooling, growing food….a whole lot of little fuckyous can add up to a big Fuckyou. The satanic death cult can rant and rave from DC, so what, ignore and disobey. Having no honor, they deserve contempt.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
3 years ago

Speaking of still having faith in the system, Crowder is suing Facebook: https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/louder-with-crowder-facebook-suit

I am guardedly optimistic, but if I had to predict the outcome I guess that this will be another chapter in the book called, “Sorry conservatives. The law is rigged against you. You have no case. Shut up.”

I’d like to be wrong.

She Was A Constitution Nut
She Was A Constitution Nut
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

An irony there is that Crowder wants to preserve a system which cultivates effects that he loathes. His frustration is well earned, same as anyone who is dull enough to identify as conservative.

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Some Guy
Some Guy
3 years ago

Great article on Taki’s. I’ve mentioned in past comments that I know civnats who know it’s dead but want to keep dancing with the corpse. They were big fans of NR’s pathetic appeal to return to Reaganism. They know it’s dead but will go down swinging to defend it and wax nostalgia about it. These guys are in their 50s and 60s. I’m in my 30s and they will fabricate stories about how great Ronaldus Magnus was. They don’t really know what I know which is good because they would toss me overboard if HR wanted to root out wrongthinkers.

Guest
Guest
3 years ago

Zman, the Taki article was perfectly written. Well done.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Tend to agree. What is the logical endgame of a zero trust society? Read Solzhenitsyn’s Gulag Archipelago for a taste of like in the Soviet prison camps. Or Primo Levi’s Survival at Auschwitz. These, perhaps, show the desperate morality that survival pressures force a “society” into. Not relevant today? I guess you’ve never read any accounts of life in our prison system. It’s not a pleasant picture. But yes, I concur with Z’s notes today. The cronyism will continue, the bailouts will continue, until they no longer work. Likely, that’ll be when the dollar is worthless and the government is… Read more »

Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

Perhaps unnecessary, but an ebellishment (in CAPS) to one of the statements in the article.
“Of course, the old adage about always knowing who the sucker in the room is (INSERT PICTURE OF REPUBLICAN CONGRESSPERSON HERE) when in a room full of sharps applies here”.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

Are you implying that republican congressmen are the suckers? If yes, please look again, a little harder, maybe use a mirror too.

Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

Not implying it – am stating it as an observable fact.
I looked in the mirror. Lo and behold there I was: a middle age white guy who’d crossed over the DR Rubicon river.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
3 years ago

Republican congressmen are not the suckers. They are part of the con. People who vote for them are the suckers.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

They do what their Donors and Blackmailers want them to do. Is there another plausible explanation?

Sjh
Sjh
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

And just like that, Cruz is suddenly throwing Trump (most importantly, his base) under the bus and chumming up to AOC. You’d think these RINOs get whiplash.

Some Guy
Some Guy
Reply to  Sjh
3 years ago

Funny enough I saw a bunch of magapedes hoping Cruz or Hawley will bail them out in 2024. It’s a sad state of affairs. I wonder what will happen when they realize they have nobody who will help them out.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

Republicans have always served as the pressure release valve. No matter how bad things got, one side could blame the other, and the system survived. When we stop voting, let’s see how long the elite can survive when the dirt people all know who is responsible.

James J O'Meara
James J O'Meara
3 years ago

When a person walks onto the lot, the salesman is trained to look for the signs that the person is just a tire kicker”

A loser salesman, you mean. Another view:
A guy don’t walk on the lot lest he wants to buy. They’re sitting out there waiting to give you their money! Are you gonna take it? Are you man enough to take it?” — Glengarry Glen Ross

Remember, ABC: Always Be Closing.

Infidel1776
Infidel1776
Reply to  James J O'Meara
3 years ago

Alec Baldwin might just be the biggest horse’s ass that ever walked the earth, but his performance in GGR is riveting, right up there with George C Scott in the opening scene of Patton.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Infidel1776
3 years ago

I’m old enough to remember Lee J. Cobb in “Death of a Salesman”. In those days, the best drama to be found on Earth was in the theater and not the movies.You could actually smell the emotion coming from the stage. Ditto for “12 Angry Men.”

Sjh
Sjh
Reply to  James J O'Meara
3 years ago

Reminds me of a car buying experience. I wandered around a Chevy dealership, was ignored (young woman at the time) for about 20 min., finally a young guy of apparent Indian ethnicity approached me and I ended up ordering a new Blazer (S-10, the first yr they came out, I was the first SUV owner that I knew of in my area) at STICKER PRICE.

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
3 years ago

One thing I never understood is why pelosi never took the shutdown deal in early 2018. If I remember right trump promised a dream act on condition that his wall was built. Yet pelosi could never explain why she rejected it. Especially since the dream act was always a huge priority for the dems

Edit: it seems when I post via phone I have a pepe trump Avi while when I post on my desktop I don’t

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RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
3 years ago

Mandatory E-verify (with penalties) would have been much cheaper and more effective than a wall. And instead of giving a discount for preferentially hiring foreigners over citizens (as H-1B and OPT do) there should be a surcharge.

Gespenst
Gespenst
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

E-verify with penalties would never have been enforced, just like any other immigration law on the books. Illegals would at least have been slowed up by having to climb over or tunnel under a wall.

CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Gespenst
3 years ago

Wall was half the problem, especially if we were talking about illegals just hopping over the Southern border. 2nd part of the problem was to sour the milk: no job, no welfare, and no remittances sent out of country. Of course, both parties connived to kill anything resembling a sound policy. How anyone could not figure this out is amazing. This had to be the best, most obvious example of the corruption of our government and the scorn our elected leaders hold us in.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
3 years ago

Perhaps if tens of millions of illegals are naturalized, her corporate sponsors will have to pay more in wages and taxes.

TomA
TomA
3 years ago

A brief White Pill to fend off the inclination for despair or defeatism. The collapse is the cure because it forces awareness and action. The bad actors are relatively few and the number of hard men still in existence is very, very large by comparison. The bad guys have cunning, but little else in the realm of robustness. Many of the remaining hard men are natural hunters and embrace hardship and challenge.
Let the games begin. Welcome to the Year of Living Dangerously USA Style.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

That thought though of When evil men work together good men must associate/band together or evil will flourish comes to mind…So it really doesn’t matter if there is a lot of hard men if they keep being isolated…They will just be picked off one by one and with each one that falls in makes the rest lose a percentage of those wanting to stand up until they get to you…

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Lineman
3 years ago

That’s defeatist and dishonors our forebears who fought (and yes, many died) to create and preserve our freedoms. Cast aside your doubts and despair, and focus instead on how you can contribute and not be easily “picked off.” Here’s a suggestion. Don’t join a militia because the guy sitting next to you could the U/C Fed that ultimately “picks you off.”

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Your hiding plan is defeatism my plan of banding together with like-minded men is the only way we have of winning…Our forefathers let’s see that’s plural isn’t it…Oh and when have I ever said join a militia…

Last edited 3 years ago by Lineman
Barnard
Barnard
3 years ago

It is a shame Leon Cooperman doesn’t have anyone working for him who is willing to explain what is happening to him. The Will Rogers joke and Churchill quotes are beyond parody. He joined the giving pledge and started a scholarship program for “children of color” in Essex county. Plus he is willing to pay a 50% tax rate. Please don’t hate him.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/01/leon-cooperman-on-gamestop-the-fed-and-the-myth-about-the-rich-and-taxes.html

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CompscI
CompscI
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

Problem with raising the tax rate is that no matter where it goes to, it is never enough. That is why I don’t support such—even for the rich.

Bruno the Arrogant
Bruno the Arrogant
3 years ago

Promises, Promises was based on The Apartment. Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izgG6C_J33s

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