The Best Laid Plans

Anyone who has had to plan a project or organize an event knows that the plans never turn out as expected. Even the most cynical veterans know their plans will run into some unexpected snafu. In fact, the word “snafu” comes from the people who spend most of the time planning things, the military. The word “snafu” comes from the acronym SNAFU, which was popularized during the Second World War. It is why we have another military saying. “No plan survives contact with the enemy.”

This may be what we are about to witness with The Pretender. The people who rigged the election knew Biden was unlikely to last his entire term. He is an old man in poor health and the White House is not the place for an octogenarian. He would either drop dead, become incapacitated or, most likely, lose his marbles so bad that he would have to be removed. This is why Pelosi pushed a bill to form a 25th Amendment commission in the fall of last year. She was planning ahead.

The thing is though, the plan was for Biden to be well enough to sign off on whatever the Democrats could rush through the House and Senate. The rhythm of politics is the first year of a new administration is when things can get done. The people inside the Green Zone believe the public is as happy as they are to be rid of Trump, so they want to push through all of their schemes as fast as possible. It is why the people who really run things have had Biden sign close to 50 executive order.

They also need Biden to help sell these schemes. This was the lesson of Obama’s first term when Congress deadlocked on health care. Obama sat on the sidelines letting Pelosi run the show. The project quickly went sideways, took forever to get done and the result was an embarrassing mess. We are seeing the same thing with Biden, who is quickly becoming a vegetable. The White House is now forced to spend most of their time hiding this guy from the public because of his dementia.

Most people think the plan was to nurse Biden along for a couple of years, then use year three to remove him from office. The more cynical thought the plan was to dump him after the election and install Harris. It is hard to know, but the people around Biden seem determined to keep their man upright for as long as possible. So far, the media is going along with the scheme to shield the truth of Biden’s condition from the public, but how long the White House staff can keep this going is hard to know.

Of course, it is also possible that no one thought much about what happens after installing a dementia patient in the White House. They just hated Trump so much they did not care if Biden was a corpse. They are starting to think about it now though and that is going to be the story here in the coming months. If Biden’s own party no longer trusts him with the basics of his office, it will not be long before they start noticing that he is basically the Max Headroom presidency now.

The other part of the plan is also going sideways. The plan said that once Trump was gone, he was gone for good. The people would hold a triumph for the those who vanquished the monster and the monster would be gone. It turns out that the Left needed him more than he needed them. To continue the analogy, they continue to carry the corpse of Trump around, pretending it is still alive. Given the people involved, it is more than a bit ironic that they did not learn from Kritzinger’s story.

That’s another problem with the plan. It was always better to have Trump inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in. Trump is a gifted shit-talker. It is what got him the nomination. Now he gets to be the shadow president, mocking and jeering the Biden administration and his old enemies in the tent. Trump was not very good at being president, but he will be very good at mocking Biden’s mental decline. That will make it page one news going forward.

None of this should be a surprise. The people in the Green Zone are gifted schemers with a vermin-like rapacity. They live to undermine the rules and subvert the natural order, but they have never been very good at running things. They are not very good at thinking about downstream consequences. The fact that their grand plan to “restore our democracy” has sprung so many leaks is hardly a surprise. It’s why they are obsessed with the ridiculous Q hoax.

The lesson here is that politics is never about planning. It is about opportunity. This is true regardless of the political system. Politics is about human behavior and people are too irrational to fit into a plan. Good politics is always being prepared to take a bite out of the other side and boost your side. Sometimes, that means working with people you hate, which is what the Democrats should have done with Trump. It is a lesson dissidents should keep in mind as the Biden story unfolds this summer.


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Boarwild
Boarwild
3 years ago

It’s important to remember that NONE of this crap would be possible without a compliant, in-the-tank media.

Steve
Steve
3 years ago

Not specific to this post, but a sign that Z Man’s message is getting out to the public-at-large: https://amgreatness.com/2021/03/03/have-you-tried-not-being-white/

Jon Lee
Jon Lee
3 years ago

Just found you by referral from Bruce Charlton, I think i’ll be logging in every morning.

Vizzini
Vizzini
3 years ago

Even those on the so-called conservative side are degenerates:

https://pagesix.com/2021/03/04/rudy-giulianis-daughter-caroline-details-why-she-loves-threesomes/

Higgs Boson
3 years ago

The social climber Jill Biden should not be underestimated. She will fight like a wild animal to keep Joe in office.

ABCer
ABCer
3 years ago

Z – THIS X1000

“ Our goal should be to keep these people thinking an insurrection is ready to happen at any minute. Let them live in terror.”

Easiest economy of force measure in history.

My Comment
Member
3 years ago

OT: the lockdown was such a hit they are putting the wheels in motion to make it a permanent part of our new normal. To protect the planet from cow farts and other evils we must have a lockdown every two years

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/mar/03/global-lockdown-every-two-years-needed-to-meet-paris-co2-goals-study

370H55V
370H55V
3 years ago

They want to prop Biden up for at least two years so that Kamala can have two full terms after that. If she fills out more than half his term she can only get one more after that.

TomA
TomA
3 years ago

Biden is a pitiable senior citizen with severe dementia and the victim of elder abuse. I doubt that he even remembers that he was selected to be president by the Deep State, who continue to use his animated corpse as a mascot for their successful coup. Biden is not the problem (much like Trump was never the problem nor the solution). The root problem is that we now have a charade masquerading as a federal government, and that is no trivial thing. The stooge in the Oval Office is nominally the pinnacle of a military command structure that controls the… Read more »

nunnya bidnez, jr
nunnya bidnez, jr
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

does it have to be a >foreign< tyrant?

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
3 years ago

What is the difference between a Joe Biden speech and a Donald Trump speech?

When Biden is speaking you wonder when he’s going to have had a stroke.

When Trump is speaking you wonder when you’re going to have a stroke. 🙂

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Biden’s dementia is a feature and not a bug for his puppeteer. They are looting as fast as they can, and don’t need to be slowed with questions. They fully expect to lose the House even with their fraud machine intact come 2022, and they are making hay while the sun shines.

They’ll just slither off the second half of The Pretender’s term and could give a shit less who plays Max Headroom at that point. A full implosion is expected and considered irrelevant.

James J O'Meara
James J O'Meara
3 years ago

Not that “rules” matter anymore, but I haven’t seen anyone speculate on the effect of WHEN Joe goes. IIRC, if Kamala serves less than 2 years, she can run again twice, totally 10 years (if she runs/wins), otherwise the first 2 years + 1day counts as a first term. Eg, Truman couldn’t run again in 1952, after replacing FDR in 1945. I believe this was discussed re: Ford/Nixon as well. The point being that Kamala would likely want to have Joe serve at least 2 full years to give her a chance at the maximum possible time in office, or… Read more »

Rich
Member
Reply to  James J O'Meara
3 years ago

They’d probably like to be able to prop up Joe through 2022, but I don’t think that will be doable. My curiosity is who gets the VP slot when Harris gets the big office?
For a couple of reasons, the Dems must be seriously reviewing their shelf stock to see what “winners” they have that they can roll out. Good luck with that. But, they do have that great “election protection program” that Joe mentioned.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Rich
3 years ago

My early money would be on them going the sodomite route and choosing Mayor Buttplug.

Last night I saw a pop up ad on my computer for P&G tampons (not sure what the brand name was) that featured (((Amy Schumer))) demonstrating on a jelly donut how to insert a tampon. As a punchline, she then ate the donut. So they actually get off on shoving their degeneracy in our faces. That’s why I think they’ll insist on the Veep being an ankle scratcher.

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  Rich
3 years ago

Rich;
Or maybe TPTB plan to sell the office to the highest bidder. IIRC, after Nero offed himself, the Roman Senate decided to sell the office of Emperor. Worked twice until a general with some provincial legions ruined their game by marching on Rome, proclaimed himself Caesar and proscribed the ringleaders.

Why should our Current Cloud People be any smarter_?

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  James J O'Meara
3 years ago

She bowed out after the first round of primaries w/o a single delegate. There is no demand for Kamala Harris. Both parties know this.

frayburn
frayburn
Reply to  James J O'Meara
3 years ago

Actually, Truman could run again in 1952 since the 22nd Amendment specifically exempted anyone who was President at the time of its ratification from term limits.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  James J O'Meara
3 years ago

Your speculation has been mentioned elsewhere and is as good as anyone’s, however, Kamala would then be running as a “two” or “three” term President essentially. Given the short favorability span of presidents after Clinton, a third term run might put her and the party at a disadvantage right off the bat. On the other hand, the flaw in that thought is that elections mean anything after the rigged last election.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

The Power Structure can do whatever it likes because it has total power. There is no opposition. If it chooses to install Empress Kamaltoe as Dictator for Life, it will, and I don’t think the vast majority of “Americans” would even cavil overmuch.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  James J O'Meara
3 years ago

First off no one likes Kamala. Secondly she is grossly incompetent and no world leader would take her seriously.She’s just a whore and that’s it. Look the elites made a terrible mistake, they thought Biden would be good for at least 3 years after holding his own with Trump in the debates. Problem is dementia progresses non linearly. So now we have a mumbling and stumbling half-wit just 2 months in office. At the current rate he’ll be gone by July. Kamala cannot be installed. She radiates weakness. Xi, Putin, Shortstack and the towel heads would just laugh at her… Read more »

Abelard Lindsey
Abelard Lindsey
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

Third in line of succession is Pelosi, who is experiencing age related cognitive issues of her own. We’re in for a bumpy ride.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  James J O'Meara
3 years ago

Ike beat Truman in 1952.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

Scratch that post.

samuel prescotts ancestor
samuel prescotts ancestor
3 years ago

“You know the rest. In the books you have read,
How the paid assassins fired and fled,
How the patriots gave them ball for ball,
From behind each tree and building tall,
Blocking their trucks at the turn of the road,
And only pausing to fire and reload,
In the hour of darkness and peril and need,
The citizens waken and listen to heed,
A cry of defiance, and not of fear,
The people are channeling Paul Revere”

hat tip to Henry Wordsworth Longfellow, apropos of the upcoming celebration in April of original Paul Revere’s ride.

Hi - Ya!
Hi - Ya!
Reply to  samuel prescotts ancestor
3 years ago

My ancestor fought in the battle of Lexington alarm. My family has been here for 400 years. And some dot head womxn who can’t speak English has an equal share as I do, more, even.

Rando
Rando
3 years ago

“The lesson here is that politics is never about planning. It is about opportunity. This is true regardless of the political system. Politics is about human behavior and people are too irrational to fit into a plan. Good politics is always being prepared to take a bite out of the other side and boost your side. Sometimes, that means working with people you hate, which is what the Democrats should have done with Trump. It is a lesson dissidents should keep in mind as the Biden story unfolds this summer.” In other words, we should start working together with Antifa?… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Rando
3 years ago

If we work with the management state, they will simply subvert our side and render it useless by virtue of their wealth and connections.. Just like they did with the TeaParty, Reform Party.

Once people realize the system is totally corrupt and against them, they will be no mood to listen to the people who destroyed our country.

They really deserve to be fed to feral hogs feet first.

We need to start with a clean slate.

Josh
Josh
3 years ago

They’re going to pump him full of drugs like they did Brezhnev and roll his walking corpse out to kiss babies. I guess, if anything, he’s finally paying for his life of corruption and greed, living a hell of being pumped full of drugs and not enjoying the twilight years of his life.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Josh
3 years ago

It doesn’t work on dementia patients. Biden will be gone by August. All they can do is pump him full of Ativan to keep him from going bananas on stage. But it also turns him into a zombie. As it progresses they will have to tie him down to a bed as he screams and moans until he dies. I’ve watched loved ones go this route and seen others in LTCF’s that are little more than screaming piles of flesh tied to a bed. You’re only hope is that they pass quickly before they reach that point. I really don’t… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
3 years ago

“They live to undermine the rules and subvert the natural order, but they have never been very good at running things.” This is so very true. Note that postmodernism (or, more accurately, poststructuralism) is the intellectual foundation of AWR ideology, and that pomo, first and foremost, is about subverting the western tradition of reasoned truth-seeking, undermining Christian morality, and advocating transgression in every sphere of human existence. To the extent this project succeeds, Western civilization goes up in smoke and ash. But what, pray tell, replaces it? Ah. In that area the pomos and their political catspaws are very vague.… Read more »

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
3 years ago

Dr. Biden will prop him up as long as she can so she doesn’t lose power.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Jack Boniface
3 years ago

I do wonder what “Dr.” Jill’s internal thoughts are. She must know of her husband’s situation, yet she does everything to prop him up.

My guess is that she is a true believer in wokeness and sees herself as a soldier for the cause with a special mission: to do whatever is necessary for her side to win.

I wish we had more of that attitude on our side.

If the cause requires that she carry his corpse around while a ventriloquist speaks for dead Joe offstage, she will.

SwissGuard
SwissGuard
Reply to  Jack Boniface
3 years ago

What are the odds that Hunter has already tapped Dr. Jill. I’m guessing high.

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

Personally, I think the Q hoax was largely orchestrated by Google and Youtube. The conspiracy bloomed on Youtube especially for years. Seems to me that they were likely behind it. But still, I wonder who actually created all that Q content? It was vastly more developed and interactive than any other online conspiracy theory I have ever seen, which partly made it more credible. Tom Hanks even spoofed the conspiracy theory when he appeared on SNL last year and did skits about pizza with typewriters in the background suchlike. Doesn’t seem believable to me that so many people on the… Read more »

Quarter Master
Quarter Master
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

It was an organic conspiracy theory promoted by grifters — certain gammas if you know who I’m referring to — and low IQ attention seekers on platforms with tremendous reach. No further conspiracy is required to explain it. Stupid people posted things that other stupid people saw and then believed on platforms with wide reach. Millions of people are simply imbeciles not capable of rational thought. A certain gamma claimed Trump’s concession speech was deepfake rather than give up the conspiracy. He spent years relating various “Q Proofs” uncritically taken from 4chan and Reddit. No matter how many times this… Read more »

Hi - Ya!
Hi - Ya!
Reply to  Quarter Master
3 years ago

I had a friend who was into q early on. He’s not stupid but there are people that go for these things and no amount of logic can penetrate them.

He said there were all these inditements waiting to be served. This was early in trumps presidency. As the years went on, I pointed out to him that nothing had happened. He can’t admit he was wrong. He just shrugs and it on to the next silly theory

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  Hi - Ya!
3 years ago

I too believed there were a bunch of indictments forthcoming soon… for a couple of years. 🙂 At the time, in the thick of the action, it all seemed completely true to me: Hilary was a superwitch in charge of a satanic coven where John Podesta routinely sacrificed children to Baal. I still think that’s all actually true honestly. But, why no indictments of higher level people for conspiring to smear trump with fake Russian intelligence and similar sorts of topics? It’s just mind boggling that the left/deep state has won, consolidated their control over the media, locked down the… Read more »

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

I suspect it was a hot button issue created by some PR outfit. Why? Because it distracted a lot of Trump supporters from real issues affecting them. Outsourcing, China dumping Fentanyl into the U.S. open borders, dying middle-class, banks and wall Street benefiting from QE while ordinary people went broke, etc. See after 2017 Trump stopped talking about these issues and the last thing TPTB wanted was those issues to be on the fore of public consciousness again. And what better way to keep people distracted than something like Qanon. Today no one talks about these issues outside of a… Read more »

Orpheus13
Orpheus13
Reply to  Quarter Master
3 years ago

@Quarter Master

Bravo, you sir, you get it.

B125
B125
Reply to  Quarter Master
3 years ago

Is this the same quarter master who used to post on unz?

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

I find that hard to credit. That guy was a complete boob.

B125
B125
Reply to  Quarter Master
3 years ago

Yes, white libs are feeling the heat

They are sure, though, that without bad white supremacists going around poisoning race relations, the saved POCs would drop to their knees and worship the white libs’ goodness. Who these white supremacists are, and where they come from, nobody really knows… but they’re out there. It’s the only explanation. You see, the POC are surely confused and mistook the woke whites for racists! Just a mix up!

We are going to pay dearly for their madness, and our lethargy.

tashtego
Member
3 years ago

What happens when an empire is essentially leaderless? Weak leadership usually portends fracturing / disintegration from my reading of history. Is there anyone at all on the left or right of the political spectrum that has even a hint of leadership potential? How can Putin or Xi take anyone representing the US seriously? It must be frightening to them, like seeing a cement truck driven by a cab full of drooling retards driving through your neighborhood. It would be more irresponsible not to act than to intervene.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  tashtego
3 years ago

Nah.

Putin and Xi are laughing themselves silly at Potato Joe.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  tashtego
3 years ago

They will sit back and watch those imbeciles destroy the empire and then collect the pieces. This is the end result of destroying the farm system used to bring up fresh talent for the parties. For the last 30 years the benches have been empty. It happens to parties when the current leadership decides to pull up the ladder so as to insure no competition for their seat. It started with the Clintons who turned the Dem party into their personal fiefdom until Trump put them out to pasture. By then the damage was done. The party had no one… Read more »

tashtego
Member
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

Is it safe to sit back and watch? I wish I knew more about what really happened as the USSR disintegrated with regard to how much the US interfered. They must have at least demanded verifiable reassurances about control of nuclear weapons. I remember some of the public interactions but I’m sure that was probably all pantomime. During the Clinton admin we paid them to decommission. Under the Obama admin the Clintons got paid to arrange for their importation of our uranium hahaha. It’s so crazy it is hard to believe. I think Z’s analogy to our situation being a… Read more »

Fick Nuentes
Fick Nuentes
3 years ago

I’m seeing 1/6 as a metaphor for Trump’s entire presidency. He and a deplorable mob were poised to force their way in. Those in charge threw up their hands, ‘welp, let him in’. He strutted in, was led politely between the velvet ropes, sat in an important chair, took selfies and posted on social media. When he had outworn his welcome, the zookeepers said, ‘Ok, it’s time to leave’, and he allowed himself to be ushered out. (Ashli and Kyle are the country in this scenario, btw.)

WCiv...---...
WCiv...---...
3 years ago

Not to frighten ya’ll too much, but this guy has the launch codes. He says launch, we launch, no? The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming! Does anyone have veto power? Mrs. B?

tashtego
Member
Reply to  WCiv...---...
3 years ago

I can’t imagine that is true. The Trump years showed that direct subordinates of the Executive can defy orders with no consequences. Whoever is actually running things would pat him on the head and send him back to his playroom to finish his watercoloring.

WCiv...---...
WCiv...---...
Reply to  tashtego
3 years ago

Don’t be so sure. In the old days this would have been considered treason. Have we really come to the point where the whole chain of command has been broken? Who does have the power to say launch? This secret cabal, with a wink, a nod, and a large money transfer could, without fear of retaliation, turn over Taiwan to the CCP. Anything is possible anymore.

tashtego
Member
Reply to  WCiv...---...
3 years ago

Treason is now simply carrying out some act the regime deems to be in contravention of their immediate interests. Again, the Trump years alone demonstrate irrefutably that there is no objective definition of either Treason or Rioting or Insurrection. There is no law we have all agreed to governed by, there is no representative government to make the laws for that matter, there is only force. Force without legitimacy and government without the consent of the governed. They surround the capitol with soldiers because they fear the opposition will act as they have acted. Since they do not recognize the… Read more »

Pete
Pete
Reply to  WCiv...---...
3 years ago

Why should we give a shit about Taiwan, or care which set of autistic ant-people rule it? That kind of neocon thinking is why we’re sill tied up in Afghanistan and Iraq.

We need to worry about fixing America and let Taiwan (and the rest of the world handle its own affairs).

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Pete
3 years ago

Taiwan is the current home of bleeding edge semiconductor design and fabrication.

Rehoming a semi fab takes years.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  WCiv...---...
3 years ago

Have we really come to the point where the whole chain of command has been broken?

Yes. Next question?

bob sykes
bob sykes
Reply to  tashtego
3 years ago

Some of the insubordination goes back to the Clinton administration. The Army slow-walked his order to supply transport and logistic to the Europeans in Kosovo. It took them weeks to find a place nearby where helicopters could land.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  WCiv...---...
3 years ago

The President can’t just order a nuclear attack because he’s having a bad day. There has to be others to approve the decision. I learnt that from a Tom Clancy novel, but I certainly hope it’s true 🙂

nunnya bidnez, jr
nunnya bidnez, jr
3 years ago

The more Trump attacks Biden,
the more the Dems have to keep Biden in,
lest they look like they are caving to Trump by retiring Biden. They will have to keep crowing about Biden, keep Kamala on the sidelines, for as long as Trump keeps mocking and ridiculing Biden. Can’t admit to anyone that their main man is a doddering old fool, especially when they just spent 4 years saying Trump was incompetant. Trump is in a strong position.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
3 years ago

FWIW Ebay just banned the selling of those forbidden Dr. Seuss books. It is just a matter of time before the banned book list grows. Precedent has been set.

Link:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/03/virtual-book-burning-continues-ebay-bans-listings-offensive-dr-seuss-books/

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

Do people still use Ebay?

nunnya bidnez, jr
nunnya bidnez, jr
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

And yet, there are plenty of listings for
“White Men Can’t Jump”

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  nunnya bidnez, jr
3 years ago

It’s always okay to shit on Whitey.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

Increasingly, it’s mandatory.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
3 years ago

That Trump is still on the sidelines sniping at them is the reason that they’re going to prosecute him and put him in prison.

3 Pipe Problem
3 Pipe Problem
3 years ago

Spot-on! The grass is always greener. The court of the Pretender is finding out just how heavy that crown is, and equally, just how hard it is to govern from the far left.

Though this house of cards will fall, I see a bad moon a-risin’ in the short-term.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
3 years ago

Think what it must be like to be Biden. You place all your hopes on one son, one day he’ll be president and continue your legacy, then he croaks. So all you are left with is tye crack addict you kept around as an after thought.

So you become president, and wouldn’t you know it instead of being able to wield any power, you lose your mind and exist as a drooling corpse for your staff to parade around.

What monkey paw did he find?

Damian
Damian
Reply to  Tykebomb
3 years ago

I do love the monkey paw story. A great life lesson.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Tykebomb
3 years ago

Someone should keep sending Hunter that bit at the end of There Will Be Blood: “I broke you and I beat you. It was Paul who told me about you. He’s the prophet. He’s the smart one. He knew what was there and he found me to take it out of the ground, and you know what the funny thing is? Listen… listen… listen… I paid him ten thousand dollars, cash in hand, just like that. He has his own company now. A prosperous little business. Three wells producing. Five thousand dollars a week. Stop crying, you sniveling ass! Stop… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tykebomb
3 years ago

It really is Shakespearean.

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
3 years ago

Things aren’t going to get better for the people in charge here, because while Biden is a clown, he is sort of a bathetic, tragicomic type (outlived some of his children; one of his sons is a crackhead). He has some residual love from people who still want to believe the working class Irish-Catholic white democrat can return. The idea that the democrats have any interest in normal white people (or normalcy, period) is just the ghost of an echo at this point, but nostalgia is powerful stuff. But the woman coming in, whom Biden probably calls Vice Pina Colada… Read more »

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

They no longer need to convince the voters. They simply manufacture the votes that they need.

Abelard Lindsey
Abelard Lindsey
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

All that, plus she put away a lot of black men under dubious circumstances while AG in California. The black community is definitely unforgiving of this.

usNthem
usNthem
3 years ago

I still wish Trump was inside the tent pissing out and pissing off the leftards. The downstream consequences of their idiotic and delusional policies and decisions are going to be a heavy weight for the rest of us and society to bear.

Rich
Member
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Maybe the heavy weight will wind up collapsing the tent over the latrine.

Epaminondas
Member
3 years ago

I don’t think the Democrats’ attitude to government is in any way similar to that of the GOP. Sure, they’re a bunch of paranoid freaks out to rob us blind. But there’s a fundamental difference. The leftists who fund and direct the Democrats are out for REAL blood. They are looking for a final solution. Not the Stupid Party. Most Republicans treat the Democrats as the loyal opposition in the face of facts that are contrary to that assumption. For example, look at the Democrat voting legislation they just passed in the House. That legislation would lock in fraudulent elections… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

The weak conquer, the strong submit, America dies on the cross to save the world. Bad morals, bad conscience. No way out but a change of mind, no change of mind without a focusing pain, no pain without letting it burn. Like letting an addict hit bottom to see if he decides for himself to make a change. It’s sad and maddening to watch, but is there another way?

3 Pipe problem
3 Pipe problem
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

We have to destroy America in order to save it.
A legacy from Viet Nam whose time has come round.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Vote hard, then Harder, and then most HARDEST!!!!!!!

Nick
Nick
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
3 years ago

I’m gonna start printing shirts ‘Vote Harder’. I wonder if we can field a candidate named Harder, say Goode N. Harder, channeling Mencken.

Rich
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Start punching back while you’re just getting jabbed. You don’t want to wait until the knockout punches start coming.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Your first three sentences sound like a summary of recent Nietzsche I’m reading (“Antichrist”, “The Genealogy of Morals”). Civilization, or Christianity in some places, was an attempt by the weak to subdue the wild, free man, his Ubermensch (I guess, I’m still new at this…). In fact, one of his main topics in “Genealogy” is the origin of “Bad conscience.” If I understand him, the bad conscience is the once-free man’s need for freedom (alas, the urge to hurt others often times), constrained by civilization (Christianity), turned inward, so that it causes internal problems. Now, speaking personally, I like civilization.… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Yep. Current events have had me remembering Nietzsche.

He might’ve been as crazy as he sometimes sounds, idk, but I read him as an artist more so than a philosopher. Which is to say, his writing is a gut punch instead of a thesis. He wants people to embrace and affirm life. Also, he was a product of the Victorian age, so I can forgive him for being polemical, shocking, superficially dyscivilizational.

Nut or not, there’s a lot in his writing that’s useful today.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

No. We must level the enemy, screw the playing field!

B125
B125
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

Yeah, they want to kill all white men and hold white women as sex slaves. It’s really that simple.

I’ve noticed the attitude of the average non white here in canada got extremely hostile and hateful towards whites in the past 5 years – for really no reason except they can sense weakness. they can smell blood and the sharks are circling.

Anyways 95% of our people are in denial about this.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Reminds me of coastal California… Hang in there brother.

My hope is that the cringing white allies will learn that they will not be exempted from the retribution.

Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Play the crazy white man card & they freeze up. Thing is you have to be willing to go all the way. They sense this in their lizard brain and BTFO.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

Look at the GOP leadership and that says it all. Business as usual. McConnell is a Chinese stooge. McCarthy is owned by Big Tech and cheap labor.

The GOP has no intention of really fighting that voting bill. Hence the wimpy noises from them. Trump is just lost. He never understood what he was up against.

Shrinking Violet
Shrinking Violet
3 years ago

Great article, as always. however, SNAFU isn’t an acronym for “No plan survives contact with the enemy.”—the initials don’t match up. Webster’s says the origin is actually “Situation normal all fucked up.”

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Shrinking Violet
3 years ago

“FUBAR” has always been my favorite

nunnya bidnez, jr
nunnya bidnez, jr
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

BOHICA
bend over here it comes again

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

I learned the provenance of SNAFU and FUBAR reading a WWII journalist’s memoir when I was in High School. Both are old-time favorites.

Spin geraht
Spin geraht
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

Nubar
Nigged up beyond all repair

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Shrinking Violet
3 years ago

Also FUBAR: fucked up beyond all recognition. Captain Sisko told me so. Or maybe it was the Allstate Insurance guy I’m not sure.

Mike Tyson had it best. “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

“She called me a rapist and a recluse. I am not a recluse.” -Mike Tyson

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

Actually the relevant Tyson quote today would be “everybody has a plan until they get punched”

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

He’s eminently quotable and I’ll furnish whichever of his quotes I damn well-please. Matter of fact, I think I’ll do so now.

“I usually don’t do interviews with females unless I fornicate with them. So you should stop talking to me, unless you want to…you know.”

Severian
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

He’s one of the all-time pop culture gadfly douchebags, but “Sports Guy” Bill Simmons deserves our thanks for coming up with the concept of the “Tyson Zone.” That’s when a celebrity like Mike Tyson has such a long track record of bizarre behavior, you’re forced to at least momentarily consider if stories that would be obvious over-the-top parodies about anyone else just might be true (basically, Poe’s Law for celebrities). I think Joe Biden is maybe three attempted “press conferences” away from the Tyson Zone… …and this man is at least nominally the President of the United States. Help us,… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Bill Simmons is the kind of twit you’d like to give a short, sharp, shock. Example 1A of a Gen X white guy who should have been resisting the take over of America but instead acted as a Pied Piper to other men who think it’s cute to devote every waking moment to sportsball and pop culture.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

TARFU; Toatally And Royally Fucked Up.

3 Pipe Problem
3 Pipe Problem
Reply to  Shrinking Violet
3 years ago

I think a closer reading of Z’s essay will reveal no correlation was imputed between SNAFU and that quote, which, by the way, is a maxim of the German field marshal, Helmuth von Moltke, who argued for flexibility and multiplicity in battle planning, saying: “No plan of operations extends with certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy’s main strength.”

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  3 Pipe Problem
3 years ago

Tyson just translated that into joggerspeak,

Quarter Master
Quarter Master
Reply to  Shrinking Violet
3 years ago

Euphemism: “Euphemism is a figure of speech commonly used to replace a word or phrase that is related to a concept which might make others uncomfortable.”

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Quarter Master
3 years ago

“Fussy eater is a euphemism for Biiiiiiiiiig pain in the ass.”
– George Carlin

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Shrinking Violet
3 years ago

FUGAZI

Fucked up, got all zipped in (to a body bag).

Nick
Nick
Reply to  Shrinking Violet
3 years ago

He didn’t say what it stands for. By the by, I remember SNAFU as a Trivial Pursuit question some 35 years ago, and I was surprised that the answer card had the f word instead of ‘fouled up’.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
3 years ago

They had a real conundrum. Could rig election laws enough to get Bernie in. The rest were zeros. I’m guessing the bad bet they made was assuming Alzheimers progression is linear…it’s not. The guy is a mess and can barely “grip” a teleprompter for a five minute canned speech. My bet is Jill (Edith Wilson in this reprise) is one of the barriers. But it explains the acceleration of EOs, fortifying the Capitol, moving immediately to persecution of the right. Their window is much narrower than Obama, who could at least talk his own book when he got off his… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

“Couldn’t rig the election laws”

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

His decline has been very rapid since the last debate with Trump. At this rate he’ll have to be kept in seclusion by June. After that it just gets increasingly ugly for Pelsoi and crew. Funny thing about the Green Zone. Is that D.C. hates the NG troops. Seems the vendors supplying them with food have been poisoning them with moldy bread, uncooked meat, etc. A bunch has to go to the hospital and now they are forced to eat MRE’s because they can’t trust the food suppliers. First they get treated like animals and put in a unheated garage,… Read more »

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

You answered your own question: They hate them.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

Maybe you haven’t figured it out, but the federal government is no longer functional. It cannot handle basic logistics or procurement. It’s a crippled organization staffed by dummies, which is why it can’t accomplish anything other than what the donor class pays it to pass as legislation. Most state governments are the same. They don’t hate the troops, per se, but are simply and completely incompetent.

SwissGuard
SwissGuard
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

“Maybe you haven’t figured it out, but the federal government is no longer functional.”
I agree, but I wish it was non-functional enough to stop taking out taxes every month. That’s when I’ll know its truly broken.

Biden says he doesn’t have Dementia, he just can’t remember when he started forgetting.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

I gather it’s the DC Govt responsible for their accommodations etc.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

The plan is for normal white guys to kill the other normal white guys. Why would they treat them well?

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Tykebomb
3 years ago

That plan has worked very, very well over the years.

to arms
to arms
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

they work for the enemy, therefore, the food suppliers will treat them like the enemy…spit checks optional

Quarter Master
Quarter Master
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

It’s likely just a combination of corruption and incompetence. Corruption in the sense that these companies skimp on things like cooking the food to save on the cost of making it, probably expecting to throw away most of it before the deception is discovered; probably 99% of many products are thrown away before use and upon reaching the expiration date, so there is little risk of being caught (and if you are, just claim it was an error and promise to fix it). It’s the equivalent of selling lower grade gasoline as a higher grade one: most people won’t notice… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Quarter Master
3 years ago

“The truth is that there were no UFOs.”

The biggest black pill of all.

Member
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

Sounds good to me. The worse they treat the Guardsmen, the more likely they are to just go into the Zone one day and shoot everyone.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  Pozymandias
3 years ago

They confiscated their ammo. Trust issues.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Dennis Roe
3 years ago

A senior NCO is in charge of that ammo. They run much more based than the officer caste.

George R.
George R.
Reply to  Pozymandias
3 years ago

Ive had the displeasure of dealing with people in the NG at my place of work. Most of them seem to be dumb as dirt and there would be more a chance of one them literally shooting themselves in the foot than shooting anybody else. Remember the NG were also used to help confiscate guns from citizens trying to protect their homes in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina

James J O'Meara
James J O'Meara
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

Proof (if needed) that the troops are there not to protect “our” leaders from some hostile forces (ISIS, etc.) but from US. It’s like the Berlin Wall, that supposedly protected East Berlin from capitalist forces, but obviously was to keep East Berliners inside.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

More of that please. More young White men of the type that populate the National Guard need to have it shoved in their faces that the ruling class hates them.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

Rejoice, poorly treated capital garrisons have revolted throughout history.

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

Dino;
Yeah, epic level stupidity on display in DC. More than a few kings and emperors met their deaths from abusing their bodyguards just because they could: Until one day they couldn’t.

Just a preview of how DC Statehood will go. Used to be, a no-bid contract would go to a diversity-owned shell company who would sub-contract to somebody actually capable of doing the work. Apparently they are now so stupid and greedy that they have done away with Step 2.

And why not_? After all, they’ll get re-elected anyway. But this ain’t the same as (not) paving the potholes.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

The news report I read mentioned metal shavings. Now uncooked or spoiled food I can understand, but metal shavings is hard to accidentally get into food. I suspect deliberate sabotage. Yes, MREs or canned food they open themself will be safer. If I’m right, this actually works for our side: the military knows that even in the capital city, the citizenry hates them or more likely, is a bunch of incompetents, and the government they are sworn to serve isn’t much better. What could possibly go wrong? 😈

manc
manc
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

No State of the Union address is a pretty big tell. Also the lack of a press conference; Biden can’t even be propped up in front a room full of compliant lapdogs.

Everyone knows the score and nobody can say anything. Yet.

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  manc
3 years ago

You must not notice the dead potato. It is not permitted.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

That particular tater would yield a mighty rancid vodka.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  SamlAdams
3 years ago

The DNC went out of their way w/ constant rule changes to keep the likes of Bernie (also Tulsi) from getting anywhere near the nomination. (The RNC employed the same strategy w/ Ron Paul.) I just assume the eventual nominee of either party must pass muster w/ Wall Street, the CoC, the MIC, Silicon Valley, and the Security State.

Whitney
Member
3 years ago

Okay, I don’t know who’s running the show right now I know it’s definitely not Biden but I doubt very much they’re going to get rid of him and put Harris in charge because as awful as she is she’s going to try to run the show and the people with power now or not going to voluntarily hand it to her

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

Harris is dumber than Biden was when he was in his prime. She’ll sign whatever they put in front of her.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

“As Biden fades, these people will be ripping each other’s throats out in public.”

If there’s anything I can do to offer them some assistance…

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

We can chuckle with amusement, gentlemen, but a lot of bad stuff may well happen. Drunken sailor scale spending (of course it happened and would have happened the same if the prior tenant had extended his lease). But we will see additional crimps on freedom. National firearms registration a la California (Felony to not report ownership of arms?) or at least recording of all sales. Additional muzzles on law enforcement, free speech. No action taking against the tech oligarchy. Solar panels, wind mills, and electric cars for everybody.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

She’s got a pretty low price. Young women who sleep with old men to get what they want are not to be trusted with anything. She has no morals or loyalty and will do whatever they tell her to do as long as she gets what she wants out of it. At least that is my impression of her.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I’m predicting a Cthulhu/Belial ticket in ’24.

Alex
Alex
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Yep. They’re already attacking people like Jake Tapper for noticing irregularities.

3 Pipe Problem
3 Pipe Problem
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

She may be dumb, but she is cunning and ruthless. Anyone who has followed politics at all knows which of those attributes are most valuable to the professional politician.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  3 Pipe Problem
3 years ago

I always though cunning implied intelligence, but I was wrong. Its definition only requires “shrewd, sly, deceiving, crafty”. Nietzsche agrees (Genealogy of Morals, essay 1, ch. 15):

(“Injury makes a man cunning,” says a popular proverb: so far as it makes him cunning, it makes him also bad. Fortunately, often enough makes him stupid).

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Epaminondas
3 years ago

Nah. Biden was held back a grade in elementary school and had to repeat a semester in college to avoid flunking out. Then there’s his history of plagiarism . . . Kamala is probably of average intelligence. (Average intelligence and a complete lack of scruples is the sweet spot for politicians in the US.)

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

Nonsense. Kamala has made a career out of sucking up and sucking off the right people. If she weren’t pliable and flexible, she’d never have gotten the VP position…

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

She’s VP because she’s unlikeable and has zero institutional or popular support. Because she’s in line after Biden, it ensures insiders won’t undermine Biden’s claim to the presidency because the alternative is unworkable. Basically, party leaders are doing what they can to keep Biden propped up by making sure that lesser powers (Pelosi, Etc.) will cooperate with Biden so they don’t ever have to deal with Harris. Biden is the carrot; harris is the stick.

Quarter Master
Quarter Master
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein did the same thing. He appointed some Christians to high level positions in his government knowing they couldn’t threaten him because they weren’t Muslim and the population would never accept them as leaders if they tried anything. The only choice they had, no matter how much they hated the guy, was to keep Saddam around because the alternatives were unacceptable. This kind of thing is common in history.

Abelard Lindsey
Abelard Lindsey
Reply to  Quarter Master
3 years ago

Nixon did the same thing by getting Agnew on the ticket with him in ’68. Unfortunately for Nixon, Agnew was forced out of office over a bribery case even before the Wastergate Scandal broke.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Glenfilthie
3 years ago

Next time you use “pliable and flexible” could you do it in conjunction with a more attractive woman?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

Does such a thing exist? Given my experiences with the opposite sex in my breeding years, it’s amazing I didn’t become a homosexual 😎

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

If the Trump/Biden presidencies have accomplished anything, it’s that the President has virtually no control of the branch he supposedly is in charge of.

There is no one “in charge”. Only temporary coalitions of powerful interests and massive bureaucracies.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

That’s the conclusion I’ve reached.
The commonality of most all these coalitions is they merge onto the Globohomo Memorial Expressway to Hell. Many on ramps. Off ramps are short, one lane, few, and far between.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

AINO has a Power Structure, not a president.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

That more or less been the case with presidents for decades. Obama was more a spiritual leader for the bureaucracy than an actual boss. Trump was continuously undermined from day one and never willing to go scorched earth on them. Ultimately, the beat him. Bush was a dope that they led around by the nose. Clinton seams to have had some limited control. Poppa Bush was figure head that presided over their expansion. Reagan was a sort of boss that cough them and that they hated and wanted to dump. But he was too smooth an operator for them to… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

Something tells me that “Dr.” Jill Biden is going to have something to say about that.

TomA
TomA
3 years ago

The Road Back (cont)
Connect the dots.

No borders, no unity, no social trust. Bribable low IQ voters, auto-elected corruptocrats, vicious cycle. Federal fiscal insanity, worthless fiat money, eventual economic collapse. More desperation, more crime, more police state repression. Chaos, martial law, rise of autocracy. More awareness of systemic malfunction, more Big Brother spying, more persecution of the sane. Rapidly growing parasitism, declining productive class, tipping point. City life, high mortality, panic-fueled exodus to safety. Well-planned refuge, survival, resurrection of the fit. Disease focus, antibodies, cure.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

I always hated that Billy Joel song.

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Funny thing is they did turn the fire into a raging conflagration as opposed to attempts at putting it out.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Valley Lurker
3 years ago

Yes. And contrary to what Billy sings, they pretty much DID start the fire. At least this particular conflagration.

MBlanc46
MBlanc46
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

I’ll take “What is the near-term fate of the republic that our ancestors built?” for $20, Alex. (I never watched that program, so I might have messed that up.)

3 Pipe problem
3 Pipe problem
Reply to  MBlanc46
3 years ago

Answer: “What is dire?”

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Rapidly growing parasitism

Everything is a racket and only suckers play by the *old* rules. Seems like only yesterday we were talking about a 5 trillion dollar debt. “The economy” has been largely stagnant since then and now it’s “28 trillion” Dollars.

Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Speaking of which, who do you like for the new 10 trillion dollar note? I’m torn between Obama and Biden. I think Fauci for the 100T bill definitely.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Pozymandias
3 years ago

I’m fine with your choices, but not of bills. It should definitely be a 3 trillion dollar bill and a 103 trillion dollar bill, as in…’as phony as a 3 (trillion) dollar bill!’

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

My husband (a pretty sober minded individual not prone to ‘conspiracy theories’) is trying to make future financial plans based on a strong belief that, once they roll out the $20 with Harriet Tubman on it, they are going to start requiring the old $20s with Jackson to be turned in. Merely a first step to ‘exchanging’ all currency due to massive devaluation, and transfer to totally digital funds.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

I remember posting some outraged rant to Usenet back in the late ’80s or early ’90s about the $3 trillion dollar national debt. How quaint.

If I could go back to myself then, I’d tell myself. “Don’t bother. Just start the revolution.”

bob sykes
bob sykes
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

Lately, it’s $3 trillion new debt per year.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

I don’t think I’ll build my summer home there…

Maniac
Maniac
3 years ago

A lot of Biden voters are turning in their graves.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

So then the more Pfizer is intentionally negligent, the more of Argentina they would own? Oof.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

well, you know what they say at davos: “you’ll own nothing and be happy!”

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

There was apparently a scene in one of Terry Pratchett’s Discworld books (I’ve only had it relayed to me second hand) about a fellow who was innovating the concept of fire insurance in that fantasy universe, but hadn’t quite perfected it.

Insurance Salesman: “Yes, he pays me a premium monthly and the policy pays him [some amount of money] should his tavern burn down!”

Man: “So … you’re basically saying that you bet him [some amount of money] that his tavern won’t burn down?”

Insurance Salesman: “[uncertainly] Well….”

*plume of smoke rises in the distance*

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

Nothing at all to do with your OP, but cute pooch in your avatar image. Mix?

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

English BD in her youth.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

Bilejones. Forgive me, sir, but something you mentioned about the CDC on yesterday’s thread piqued my interest. Your words were something to the effect (please clarify if I’m off base) of ‘the CDC had not isolated a sample of the virus’, what does this mean? Did you have any links to the statement that was made confirming this? This lunchtime, after strolling with the wife through a pleasant green wood with zero diversity, I thought I’d have a gander at the CDC’s website. I found an explanation of the two ways of testing for the ChinkyPox and both seemed likely… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

None of the so-called tests really appear to be able to identify specific virii.

It’s all just stuff they’re throwing at the wall.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Here’s the damning paragraph Page Analytical Performance: Limit of Detection (LoD): LoD studies determine the lowest detectable concentration of 2019-nCoV at which approximately 95% of all (true positive) replicates test positive. The LoD was determined by limiting dilution studies using characterized samples. The analytical sensitivity of the rRT-PCR assays contained in the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel were determined in Limit of Detection studies. Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

Thanks. This is the sort of stuff I mean. If these people have no samples for there LoD tests, then Joe Bloggs is correct to ask questions. One such question is why a virus with so many cases reported is one that the premier research institute in AINO has no samples of.

It’s also a great example of some worrying truths buried in plain sight, dressed up with some scientific terminology to scare people off. Works, I suppose.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Let’s not get too far into conspiracy land. Viruses exist. Yes, there is plenty of uncertainty and misinformation about SARS-Cov-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. The pandemic has been exploited more, perhaps, than any other disease in modern history. Perhaps all history. But anyone who says “no one has ever proven that the virus exists” or some similar statement is not well informed and frankly, probably wears a tinfoil hat. Not only do viruses exist, but they can be bred, sequenced, sliced and diced, combined with unrelated viruses, in short, manipulated with almost the same ease as a document on… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

I posted a longish reply: this is a test,

Roberto
Roberto
Reply to  Bilejones
3 years ago

Screw Pfizer ! Just get the sputnik V vaccine from Russia.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Roberto
3 years ago

Roberto,

That was my very first thought.

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  Roberto
3 years ago

Or you could just eat a good diet with plenty of garlic.