Who Is Behind This?

Most Americans have always understood that their politicians are not really in charge of the government or even their own offices. The secret hand of “special interests” guide the daily functioning of the state. In the old days this meant rich guys from the world of business, local interest in the home state of the representative and powerful people with connections inside government. These days it is those things plus government unions and foreign powers like Israel and China.

Despite the role of special interests, people still participated in the democratic process on the assumption that everything has a limit. Those special interests manipulating the system would have to yield to popular will eventually. After all, those politicians have interests too. If they keep finking on their voters, they will find themselves on the losing end of the next election. Even the most craven politician would eventually have to draw the line with the money men telling him how to vote.

A regular plot in movies and television is the politician who has a crisis of conscience over some issue and he turns on the money men in support of the people. Alternatively, and now quite amusingly, a heroic member of the press exposes the shady backroom deals to the public. The public, having been informed of the shady dealings, turns on the participants. Sometimes it is a combination of these plots, but in the end the public will triumphs over the shady backroom dealers.

When you stop and think about it, the way in which politics and the media are presented in movies and television is a masterful bit of propaganda. On the one hand, it fully acknowledges the corruption of all democratic politics. The people in the system are always bad people. On the other hand, the bad guys always lose to the good guys, the voters, so it is proof that the system works. In other words, political corruption is turned into proof that the system works. That is some real 4-D chess.

If you want to take the 4-D chess idea further, you can add in the occasional arrest of a shady politician for political corruption. These scandals are always turned into morality tales by the authorities and the media. The FBI starts dishing dirt about the target to stenographers in the media. Then they coordinate with the media for the big day when the scoundrel is hauled away in chains. Often, the story is then forgotten, as it has served its purpose in reinforcing the narrative of democracy.

Of late, something seems to be broken with the system. It started with the governor of South Dakota, who vetoed a bill banning men from playing girls sports. Krisiti Noem, despite spelling her name like a stripper and looking like the antihero of a country music video, was being prepped for a national role. Then all of a sudden, for no clear reason, she decided to support men playing girls’ sports. She was forced to go on Tucker Carlson to humiliate herself in service to the “trans” agenda.

Just this week, this same bizarre pattern repeated itself. Asa Hutchinson, the neocon governor of Arkansas, vetoed a bill that would have banned the mutilation of children, whose hysterical mothers believed were another sex. Even if you think men should be allowed to mutilate themselves with sex change operations, subjecting children to things like chemical castration is monstrous. Yet, Hutchinson vetoed the bill and then went on Tucker to humiliate himself in service to the “trans” agenda.

It is not unreasonable to ask what in the hell is going on here? Normally this is the sort of issue that politicians love. They get to pretend to heroically oppose something without risking any political capital. After all, only deviants and sadists support the mutilation of children, so opposing it is risk-free. It is not as if there is a lot of votes in the transvestite community or some philosophical point here, like with drug legalization. Transvestites are few and most are poor due to their mental illness.

In the case of Noem, she was responding to demands from the NCAA, who threatened to pull their events from the state. One of Noem’s donors owns facilities that would profit from these events. That just leads to a further question. Why does the NCAA, which promotes the hell out of women’s sports, want to support the destruction of women’s sports by transvestites? What is their interest here? In a way, they are being put in the same humiliating position as the politicians.

The answer seems to be corporate America. In the interview with Asa Hutchinson, Tucker asked him repeatedly if the mega-corps in his state like Walmart had pressured him to support the mutilation of children. Hutchinson got very uncomfortable, as if he suspected Tucker knew the answer before he asked. The governor denied he talked to any of those companies, but the viewer was left with the impression that he was being forced to do what he was doing by those companies.

The trouble with blaming corporate America is they have less of a reason to support these monstrous policies than the politicians. The political class is largely insulated from the voters these days. Over 95% of incumbents win reelection. The number of contested seats in the House, for example, is 25-50, depending upon the election and who is in the White House. In other words, the pols can afford to embrace boutique ideas, like allowing men in drag to play girl’s field hockey.

Corporations, in theory at least, are not insulated from the public. A boycott of Walmart is not going to bankrupt them, but it can impact the business. Even if they are not worried about that, what is the point of embracing this madness? It is not going to increase business. Surely, they have to know it. The fact is though, it appears that the engine of revolutionary social change, like the ritual mutilation of children, is being driven by global corporations.

The motivations at work here are important, but the issue at the moment is that this naked display of power is breaking the old myth of democracy. Suddenly, those “special interests” are not a force to be checked by popular will. They are not operating in the shadows, fearing exposure. They are right out in front. Using these cases to tell the people their opinions do not matter. It does not matter what they think. The people in charge are the mega-corps and they will do as they please.


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Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
3 years ago

Bicameral like death cults have been defeated so far in the west as they arose, principally as Christina heresies like the Cathars etc.

What was death-cultish about the Cathars?

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
3 years ago

Z Man; Late but relevant: It appears that the DR are not the only ones wondering who is in charge and WTF is on their agenda. *Our enemies are wondering the same thing.* https://libertyunyielding.com/2021/03/23/dealing-with-the-usa-russia-china-issue-joint-proposal-for-a-un-perm-5-summit/ This well written article is worth a look, comments not so much. Author is a retired US Navy Intel officer with many interesting insights and apparently deep knowledge. TL/DR: Russia and China proposed a UN Security Council top 5 summit meeting to clarify the issue. It’s an unavoidable diplomatic trap for our beloved elite. The US must, eventually, either accept or reject. Each logic branch has… Read more »

Frip
Member
3 years ago

From a real-world point of view. The NCAA knows that not enough weirdo men are going to change into women, to cause real disruption for womens’ sports. So the ideological goal of self-realization remains intact and is most important.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Frip
3 years ago

Teenage girls are the ones in true danger here (and some teenage boys). Transvestitieism is the new Anorexia.

My Comment
Member
3 years ago

Mega corporations can’t be in charge. The NYT told us that they simply speak truth to power. The real power is white supremacist truck drivers

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
3 years ago

“It is not unreasonable to ask what in the hell is going on here? Normally this is the sort of issue that politicians love. They get to pretend to heroically oppose something without risking any political capital. After all, only deviants and sadists support the mutilation of children, so opposing it is risk-free. It is not as if there is a lot of votes in the transvestite community or some philosophical point here, like with drug legalization. ” This is an EXCELLENT observation. I freely admit this aspect had not even crossed my mind. It is a reminder of why… Read more »

T P
T P
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Today has been an interesting day. I listened to a discussion making the argument that social media is entirely postmodern. The point was that if you can create an avatar “presenting” as whatever you want, that your identity is malleable. And that means it is entirely meaningless. I’ll come back to this. Then there’s a book I’m in the middle of called “Becoming a Barbarian” by Jack Donovan. He is throwing new ideas at me about how our corporate rulers (of today’s ZMan post) desperately want us to be isolated individualists rather than an organized group of men “unsupervised by… Read more »

Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
Reply to  T P
3 years ago

ZM: the mutilation of children, whose hysterical mothers believed were another sex… what is the point of embracing this madness?

Neither males who have been castrated nor females who have been radically hysterectomized can produce offspring.

Ergo: MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones#Inscriptions

Pozymandias
Reply to  T P
3 years ago

This is the concept of the mannerbund and is very powerful indeed. A lot of what was wrong with Evangelical Christianity was that it was just another matriarchal institution with women running most things and just sort of dragging the men along behind them. It’s not surprising that it went from being at least somewhat committed to fighting the culture war in the 90s to being pretty much just another facet of the Poz today. I’d say most of the young men I knew in the 90s who went to those churches were in it to get a reasonably non-slutty… Read more »

David
David
Reply to  Pozymandias
3 years ago

While the average catholic attends church once a year and, thanks to the pope, believes in aliens and supports mass immigration.

Pozymandias
Reply to  David
3 years ago

I never said Catholics were any different and they certainly were early adopters of paleo-wokeness with Vat II and all that.

Unsupervised Man
Unsupervised Man
Reply to  T P
3 years ago

FWIW, I just read the medium article and found many, many dozens of errors, both untrue statements and logical errors in thinking. Thus I don’t think valid conclusions or inferences can be drawn from it, even if some of the arguments seem compelling on the surface of them. If I had not decided to make a special study of the finer details of both kosher and halal practices a decade ago out of curiosity, I would not have noticed most of the errors in the article. Anyway, I don’t see a comment section over at medium but I thought I’d… Read more »

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
3 years ago

The jews run this freakshow. Money. Media. Education Buy or compromise political whores. Cattle, they have plans for you, wake the fuck up.

Nick
Nick
3 years ago

I dont often comment here. But today I feel I must Gays help each other. That’s it. They have outstripped Jews as the wealthiest self interested interest group in the US. Without children, they have tremendous financial resources, and they proactively promote gays within organizations. My wife’s good friends son has told me that he has stopped trying to get residency in places such as Stanford hospital. It seems that the younger staff are majority gay and climbing. A guest on Tucker late last year? Early this year? Mentioned that most male congressional staff members are gays. It’s an open… Read more »

Unsupervised Man
Unsupervised Man
Reply to  Nick
3 years ago

You make some good points. But as far as “little brother” goes, don’t underestimate the degree to which the gays hate the trannies. Always have and still do.

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  Nick
3 years ago

When I left the USA 23 years ago, in part because I had “concerns” about the direction of the society, never in my wildest imaginings could I have foreseen it would come to this! Now I imagine it will only get worse, at least during my remaining lifetime (I’m 74 and hope to make 90) barring the unforeseen.

rkb100100
rkb100100
Member
3 years ago

As politics is downstream from culture, the decline of culture has opened up opportunities in politics for special interest groups to take advantage of a confused and morally disarmed citizenry. These groups claim the moral high-ground and project strength, attracting increasing numbers of people not understanding the dynamic. The outrageous displays are just muscle-flexing at the expense of the dying institutions. But nature always wins, these current freak-shows are sterile, spoiled and irresponsible – their numbers will dwindle but not before they do damage.

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
3 years ago

We have to do something about these (((Amish))). They have gotten completely out of hand.

RoBG
RoBG
3 years ago

The over-45s here will remember the media-generated “multiple-personality disorder” spike. Another syndrome with vanishingly small numbers diagnosed until the media decided it was a “thing.” Then diagnoses skyrocketed.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

I always go back to the Tourette’s-like symptoms that a dozen girls in the same high school in upstate NY developed about a decade ago. The fact that all 12 were female and all developed their symptoms within a couple weeks of each other should have told the entire story. And when you watched them get interviewed by the mainstream media, they were always — always — accompanied by their mothers. Never the fathers.

The girls very quietly all “got better” once the media narrative had run its course. Yet we continue to feminize our culture.

https://youtu.be/M-Sg0EM8fFM

Steveaz
Steveaz
3 years ago

The government’s stakeholders are calling the shots now. Big hint: they’re not the Citizens.

When a company goes into bankruptcy its creditors take over its management. America is currently run by its creditors, and we are bankrupt.

Strike Three
Strike Three
Reply to  Steveaz
3 years ago

I have an unusual job. I am a Bible teacher in a private high school in the “Bible belt” (lol). I am currently trying to teach the book of Daniel to a group of seniors. Daniel 7:25 says, “He shall speak words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High, and shall think to change the times and the law; and they shall be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.” I don’t want to get into an exegetical argument here. But I did remark in today’s 5th period… Read more »

Crabe-Tambour
Crabe-Tambour
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

It’s a sad state of affairs to realize that, to paraphrase (and reverse) Jane Fonda: The common sense of the Sixties has become the radicalism of the 2020s.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

Hearing stories like this convince me that America deserves and will be conquered in the near future.

Our civilization is nearing its end point.

tristan
tristan
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

Why would you bother to conquer an imploding suicidal society. And if you did what would be the benefit?

acetone
Member
Reply to  tristan
3 years ago

Money, land, women. The usual.

B125
B125
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

God bless you

Even if it’s just 5 who were on your side. Those 5 are the remnant, those who will go forward. They probably feel alone in their views and it’s important that they have positive reinforcement at such a critical age.

This really goes for any person here. if you know any young person who’s questioning things even a bit, it’s important to talk to them.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

Bravo for sticking to your guns. Some of those kids will remember what you said — most may never come around, but if it gets at least one of them thinking, or there was one kid in that class who realized “Hey, I’m not alone!” it was worth it. Even if it was just shouting into the darkness, Diogenes, it was worth it.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

But contra Diogenes, I wouldn’t recommend spanking the plank in the classroom…

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

More likely you actually did some good – you just aren’t aware of it. At a minimum you were obedient to God.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

Strike Three: Good for you for sticking to the truth. Hope you are not thrown under the bus by your school’s administrative churchians. But I must ask, why did your own child argue against you? Have you not insisted on teaching the truth to him/her since birth, or have you just entrusted his/her education to others and to popular media? My children went to Christian schools, but we still called them out where we saw falsehood and error, and our boys knew from the beginning that race and sex were real and mattered.

Strike Three
Strike Three
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

My own child argued against me because she, like her mother, has rejected the Christian faith. Her mother cheated on me repeatedly, rejected me, and then left us. I have raised my children the best I could, I did evening devotions with them until they hit the 15-16 age category, and when it was clear that they couldn’t stand listening to me anymore I stopped forcing them to have devotions with me. Though I am my daughter’s Bible teacher, she has chosen to receive her “catechesis” (if you will) from TikTok.

So, yeah

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

My deepest sympathy. “How sharper than a serpent’s tooth it is to have an ungrateful child.”

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

That’s heartbreaking. But it’s not unprecedented for youth to go through a period where they know more than their parent(s). That’s not very reassuring, but you’ve done the best you can to put roots down that will blossom into a healthy morality when the hormones die down.

Major Hoople
Major Hoople
Member
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

You have to realize that you still provided them with something they can come back to when they are older.

David
David
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

The genetics guys would have a lot to say about this. No amount of good parenting or religion can overcome genes. The mother probably leans toward psychosis, having no sense of guilt.

T P
T P
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

“why did your own child argue against you?” Dude. Don’t you know the answer? My god, it’s grotesque of you to ask that to him. Do you actually not know that social media is designed explicitly to addict and indoctrinate sociopaths? No parent has the power to stop the incessant child rape that is corporatist America. Unless you can keep them miles away from the internet, Hollywood and public school. But I am just waking up to half of this myself. Some I knew for years, but no action plan. I can’t lay off the blame on any parent if… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  T P
3 years ago

T P: I did not intend to imply blame in my comment, and if that is what it suggested to you and others, I can only apologize for not writing more clearly. I’m well aware of not merely the power of the secular world and media, but of the child’s own personality. I was genuinely curious because, from Strike Three’s initial comment, it seemed he was truthful and straight about vitally important issues, which indicated to me he would have been the same at home to his own children.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

How big is your class? If only 5 argued against you that’s the mouse that roared. The rest stay quiet because they don’t see anyone standing up. You set the example today. Well done.

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

I feel ya. We are all put in that kind of absurd situation quite a bit lately. Sadly I think we are going to end up watching our friends and neighbors get sent to gulags to be worked to death and if we try to say anything about it we will be in the same situation you describe with trying to teach a point of view that is no longer socially acceptable. And that means that there is no way to stand up and speak the truth anymore, which is of course the end goal of boiling the frog slowly… Read more »

Mike Austin
Mike Austin
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

I taught for fifteen years (2004 – 2019) at a charter school in that reddest of Red States, Oklahoma. For the first few years all seemed well enough. I had a Catholic Bible on my desk, students would ask in class or after about certain aspects of Biblical teaching, and my colleagues—who knew very well how I taught in my classroom—never raised a question about my methods. I answered as best I could, hopefully not embarrassing the Holy Ghost too much. Gradually, slowly, almost imperceptibly, all that changed. A few years before I retired (I am 67) more and more… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Mike Austin
3 years ago

Mike Austen: God bless you for your efforts. While most contend the main factor leading to poor education is the character of the students, I would have to give equal or greater weight to the character (or rather lack thereof) of the parents. And this transcends race. There are far too many White parents solely concerned with whether their child is popular, or makes the sportsball team, or becomes valedictorian. Outsourcing the education of one’s children is the root of tremendous evil.

Frip
Member
3 years ago

This great evil – where’s it come from?
How’d it steal into the world?

What seed, what root did it grow from?
Who’s doing this?
Who’s killing us?
Robbing us of life and light; mocking us with the sight of what we mighta known?

Does our ruin benefit the earth?
Does it help the grass to grow or the sun to shine?
Is this darkness in you, too?
Have you passed through this night?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCmtpXVN1Ps&ab_channel=ExplosionsintheSky-Topic

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Frip
3 years ago

Actually there is a good chance we’ll destroy ourselves. The Earth would be better without Man’s depredations. Please, show me evidence I’m mistaken. 🙁

Frip
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

It’s from James Jones’ The Thin Red Line and has nothing to do with environmentalism.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Why do you even come here?

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

To impress us with his vast knowledge of all those thrash/death metal band names no one else has heard of? (if that’s still a thing)

B125
B125
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

I had to stop reading his comments lol, they were too long, pointless, and rambling.

Ben says below:

“I probably only have one testosterone molecule in my body”

😂

An Anon On the Run
An Anon On the Run
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Probably blackpilled. Can’t say I blame him the way things are going. The future doesn’t seem so bright for our people.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Ben – Rather than pleading for an explanation or evidence of anything from Zman’s commentariat, perhaps you’d be better served if you prayed to God for a reason for living and valuing White society, outside of Nietzsche.

Ben the Layabut
Ben the Layabut
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

Maybe the fact that I prefer to live in a White society is proof enough that I prefer it to alternatives. I certainly have the power to live in non-White societies and to date, have opted not to.

I note that in the responses, no one provided anything resembling an answer to my question, other than a vague insult.

I do sometimes quote from music, but I think it’s another person with the Metal names. That is not me.

As for any religious conversion, you guys will be the first to know!

Quarter Master
Quarter Master
3 years ago

Who’s behind this? Well, it’s not any one person, or any one group. Rather, the current madness results from a positive feedback coming from popular media. People see the approved narrative in their communications, and they assume it’s the will of the times – the culture, the voters, the people with power and money, the party in power. The populace voluntarily regulates their behavior and beliefs (and those of others) based on these narratives in order to stay within accepted limits of belief, lest they be ostracized from society for having the wrong loyalties, which is what belief is really… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
3 years ago

The unanswered question is, “why do our elites want trans acceptance so badly, because they clearly do?” There are no obvious answers so we are forced to speculate. I submit that one reasonable explanation, in the absence of others, is j3wish nature. j3ws are naturally more sexually perverse. For example, j3ws pioneered gender reassignment surgery in Weimar Germany, until the Hitler youth burned down their laboratory. They produce most of pornography. Our assistance secretary of health is a tranny j3w. This is their nature. When a group conquers a nation, one action that they take is to make that nation… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

Another pozz-ibilty, other times broached: they are just heaping on the absurd, not because they necessarily want it or benefit, rather to sow more uncertainty, discord and fear. Not sure, but I think an unstable environment is often “desirable” for political prisoners. Also, keeping others guessing is a common passive aggressive move.

Gunner Q
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

‘The unanswered question is, “why do our elites want trans acceptance so badly, because they clearly do?”’

God created us male and female. Therefore, His enemies want us to be anything except that. They aren’t constructing something new, they’re destructing something old.

Substitute science for God if you like. The sex chromosome is either X or Y, not Z or Q.

Reactive Reaction
Reactive Reaction
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

I think the global powerhouse corporations benefit when most people believe it is meet and just to “create one’s own identity” (with the help of their line of products, of course).

The idea that you may be burdened by unchosen identity elements threatens hypercapitalism.

I think it’s just that simple.

Melissa
Melissa
3 years ago

It’s remarkable how swiftly sentiments are changing as these issues are brought to light. If I were to have addressed the fact that there are political prisoners incarcerated throughout the United States only six months ago, eyes may have glazed over. Now, it has become a frequent topic of conversation with friends who are gradually moving closer to this side each day.
Also, it is possible that Michael Sherwin is Satan’s prime henchman?

DJ3Way
DJ3Way
3 years ago

business schools have been turned into indoctrination camps like the rest of university. I was in them maybe 15 years ago and it was there then. It has to have gotten worse. What that means is the people who go work for the megacorps, and I mean a lot of the people on the board and whatnot, are all adherents to the globohomo religioun. So that’s part of it. Unrelated: I think it was you who had the point, a few weeks back, that we should kinda be encouraging men to play girl sports because girl sports are globohomo anyway.… Read more »

My Comment
Member
Reply to  DJ3Way
3 years ago

I went to business school over 30 years ago and it was free of globohomo at that time. I notice the woke started to really rise during the dotcom Era when tech became cool.

Bad whites tend to over think things. We lost the cultural war and people who want to be seen as good people simply buy into whatever narrative is being disseminated at the moment. In the world of MBA grads few are willing to dissent. There is simply too much at stake. Much easier to convince yourself you are on the side of the angels.

Ripple
Ripple
3 years ago

OT: The Jew haters around here will love this particular Jewess:

Teachers’ Union Head Rips Jews in Interview on School Reopening
AFT’s Weingarten smears Jews as ‘ownership class’

https://freebeacon.com/campus/teachers-union-head-rips-jews-in-interview-on-school-reopening/

James J O'Meara
James J O'Meara
3 years ago

” Why does the NCAA, which promotes the hell out of women’s sports, want to support the destruction of women’s sports by transvestites?”

Put that way, that’s the funniest thing I’ve read all year. I guess it must have been the secret plan behind the Stonewall Riot.

“Get ’em, girls! He hit Bunny!” — Blazing Saddles

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  James J O'Meara
3 years ago

Because women’s sports suck and it would be better plaid by men dressed up like women.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

I probably only have one testosterone molecule in my body (a bit more in youth) but for some reason I enjoy Olympic women’s gymnastics and beach volleyball 😀

Hi - Ya!
Hi - Ya!
3 years ago

The whole Tucker segment looked scripted. Very strange. And the gov insistence that its for limited goverment in the spirit of Reagan was creepy. Tucker then had blacks and gays after that.

An Anon On the Run
An Anon On the Run
Reply to  Hi - Ya!
3 years ago

“Limited government” is just an excuse to let the other side win. Republican conservatives and libertarians are born losers.

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3 years ago

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Whiskey
Whiskey
3 years ago

I’m shocked ZMan you don’t see it. Having listened to your take on Liberty Valence, I’d disagree — we treat our women better than ever by giving them what they want. And they are happier than ever. And who benefits from mutilating children for trannies and tranny stuff? Young, nubile, childless White women. The reason corporations are full square on eliminating Whiteness, trannies, and the like is young, nubile, childless White women. Who are either sleeping with the boss, or the boss wants to sleep with, or has ambitions to placate instinctively. Young White women HATE HATE HATE Whiteness, the… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  Whiskey
3 years ago

I don’t know where you see all these young white women who hate white men. They seem just as confused about the Globohomo anti white stuff. Even corporate power women still end up marrying a (white) guy and having one or two kids. Churches have plenty of white women with families. Have you dated in the past 15 years? White women still want kids. They just want to “have fun” first and have them at the “right time”. Which is stupid and naive, but it’s not the same as actively hating white society. Yeah, you see some white women dating… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Your perspective is shaped by being in YYZ. Come down here to any rust belt town and the number of coal burners is as astounding as it is shameful. White men with colored women are like hen’s teeth.

B125
B125
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Not just yyz but any large city, seattle, LA, nyc, etc.

Is that because a large number of white men in the rust belt are drug addicts or wiggers? From what I’ve seen as long as there are decent white men they will get some kind of white woman. There’s just alot of loser/drug addict white guys

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

I live in a large college town in Texas and see very few mudsharks. Thankfully.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

The question that Whiskey can never answer is: why do white women “HATE HATE HATE Whiteness, the White men around them…”?

Whiskey implies that this hatred is innate to white women, that this hatred is part of their nature. Yet most people realize that no one is easier to manipulate than white women. (White women have many wonderful qualities but independence of thought is not one of them.)

Who programs the white women is the question that Whiskey desperately does not want to answer. One can’t help but wonder why he resists this question so fervently.

B125
B125
Reply to  Whiskey
3 years ago

I’d also say that white men are often manchildren. Or they follow the immoral sexual strategies of PUAs for a quick pump.

I’d say both white men and white women act hedonistically and are throwing away their futures.

If white men cut out the bullshit and just accepted sleeping alone some nights until they found a good woman, and wanking one out instead of pumping into a vagina, things would improve so much.

Tinder has turned white men into clowns who perform dog tricks to desperately get a few thrusts into a 7.

Severian
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Whiskey is describing the Basic College Girl, of whom I taught thousands over many years. They don’t “hate Whiteness.” They don’t hate anything, actually. They are mindless trend surfing herd animals who, paradoxically, are also near total solipsists. If it’s not in their Twitter feed, and not directly about them, it’s not real. They all think they’ll find a thirsty beta to wife them up after riding the cock carousel to partner at the law firm. Unfortunately they’re most likely right. But the good news is, all we have to do is take over Twitter – we could have them… Read more »

Ben the Layabut
Ben the Layabut
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Egad, I fancied myself the resident smartass and cynic here but gentlemen, you both are in the running! Bravo and well, if quite harshly, said!

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Bingo. I noticed this among some the MGTOW types who have sizable youtube followings. These guys think women should have the same sex drive as them and should provide it on demand if they want to be good girl friends. Worse some of these guys are maybe 3 on the looks scale and think they are worthy of dating a woman who is a 9. Talk about delusional. Others have no problem encouraging their viewers to do a pump and dump. And yeah the whole PUA and Tinder thing does not help men one bit. The PUA is pure poison.… Read more »

Damian
Damian
Reply to  Rwc1963
3 years ago

Wow! Ross Jeffries. That was pre-Mystery time. I saw a video of him once, and he came across as a completely creepy social retard. But in defence of PUA, I do think that pick up was a K selected response to an r selected sexual market place. Men who would have done really well 50 years ago (and still operating on the ‘type of guy who you’d take home to meet your mother’ mindset), who were completely confused and outplayed by the ‘live in the moment, sleeve tattoo, man-child’. The PUA scene seems to be on life support now as… Read more »

David
David
Reply to  Whiskey
3 years ago

My job is full of white women with few skills, and honorary brown employees with no skills, all popping off about diversity and inclusion while we’re losing money. Ive seen them force messages into our marketing that our customers have no interest in. Affirmative action has created a fetish for womens feelings in the workplace and they have the power over men’s careers via HR and their manipulative tactics with the bosses.

Poirot
Poirot
3 years ago

“…the way in which politics and the media are presented in movies and television is a masterful bit of propaganda. On the one hand, it fully acknowledges the corruption of all democratic politics. The people in the system are always bad people. On the other hand, the bad guys always lose to the good guys, the voters, so it is proof that the system works. In other words, political corruption is turned into proof that the system works.” Funny. This reminds me of an early episode of The Simpsons. All of this stuff nicely condensed in just a couple of… Read more »

Gagdad Bob
3 years ago

There’s probably a simple explanation: not only does Hutchinson harbor no personal animus toward sexual deviants, google has his browser history to prove it.

dr_mantis_toboggan
Member
3 years ago

Like our esteemed host, I have no clue why this is the hill these two GOP governors would decide to make their stand. In the case of Hutchinson, any governor worth his salt can whip the votes in the statehouse to find out if their veto will stand and whether doing so will erode their political capital. My point is he knew the vote situation and vetoed this bill anyway, which makes no political sense. My feel is that Walmart weighed heavily against this. Walmart runs the entire NW corner of the so-called Natural State. I’m familiar with Arky since… Read more »

Maus
Maus
Reply to  dr_mantis_toboggan
3 years ago

Why all-in on the tranny thing? Once you start drinking that adrenochrome to wash down the pizza, the siren call of the trannies becomes irresistible. But don’t fret, Q has a triple-secret-probation plan to clean the Augean stables any day now.

Good ol' Rebel
Good ol' Rebel
Reply to  dr_mantis_toboggan
3 years ago

Doc, you have the answer to your first question in your second. (And get out of the neocon ditch: money is not the point of life for anyone, our enemies included.) Status and symbolism. They want boys to be girls because normal, moral people want boys to be boys. They hate us and want to destroy us, and the way to victory is to have your enemy conceed their own defeat within their own hearts before battle ever starts. It doesn’t matter if it is only a couple dozen people in a country of 350 million, because the attack and… Read more »

Aldo
Aldo
Member
Reply to  Good ol' Rebel
3 years ago

You are extremely close. Yes, they want to destroy us but from the outside would never be successful. It had to be from the inside out. First entertainment, then education then culture and then…. the family…. Destroys America’s family and you bring “her” down. This is the final play, the coup de grace, the nail in the coffin. Make America believe boys can be girls and girls can be boys. So f’n farcical it twists your mind but here we are, twisted f’n minds making a farce of our families… our nation

Reactive Reaction
Reactive Reaction
Reply to  Aldo
3 years ago

O’Brien’s 2+2=3 or 5 if the Party says so explains this phenomenon very well. Notice that, after he tortures Winston to the point that he cries out, “All right, 3, 5, 3, 5, whatever you want!” O’Brien rejects Winston’s plea, BECAUSE HE CAN SEE WINSTON DOES NOT BELIEVE IT. Conformity is not enough for the new overlords. Look at how many people who object to Noem and Hutchinson focus on subroutines: “Protecting women’s sports” and “Protecting children”. OF COURSE allowing children to be mutilated at will is evil. But so is allowing adults to be so mutilated. The idea that,… Read more »

Drake
Drake
3 years ago

Now I’m remembering the old movie thing where the good guys only need to fight their way to the NY or LA Times and get their story told. That will destroy the evil corporations and out-of-control government agencies and everyone will live happily ever after. “Firestarter” comes to mind but there are many others with this theme. That seems so quaint and outdated it’s funny.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

In 1975, the movie Three Days of the Condor let Americans know the reality of how the system really works for whistleblowers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XKFQVJlmZY

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Judge Smails
3 years ago

Great film.

I remember arguing with people that this film reveals some truths about the way the world really works.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Judge Smails
3 years ago

Re Z’s earlier theme about how the traditonal movie plays out, here are some government conspiracies, admitted or highly plausible, that have happened in my (and probably your) lifetimes, that to the best of my knowledge, resulted in few or zero prosecutions. These are all from memory, and it’s likely I’m missed some, or details wrong. 1960s: JFK assassinaion, Israel’s “mistaken” attack on U.S.S. Liberty (amazingly, disclosed by Washington Post over ten years later!). 1970s Watergate break-in. OK, at least some prosecutions. And this was (perhaps) the last, great case of the media blowing the whistle on corrupt government —… Read more »

Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

1990s: Hard to keep track:

The bulldykes Hillary Clinton & Janet Reno incinerating 75 or 80 utterly innocent deeply religious Christians at Waco for no reason other than that they could.

[The scuttlebutt at the time held that Hillary was terrified about what Waco was doing to Bill’s poll numbers; she had always blamed the Mariel Boatlift riot at Fort Chaffee for Bill’s only election loss, and she was determined that he would never lose another race.]

Herbert Marcuse
Herbert Marcuse
Reply to  Herbert Marcuse
3 years ago

Not too that (((the Tribe))) immediately went into historical revisionism concerning Waco, and tried to paint the Davidians as a child molestation cult.

Remember, (((the Tribe))) always projects.

ALWAYS PROJECTS.

CF'Omally
CF'Omally
3 years ago

I share the same temptation to know who or what is responsible for the position in which we find ourselves. If we knew our enemy and how they are winning the war so to speak, it would be much easier to combat. But it seems its never that simple. In the old “flocks of bird and schools of fish” debate, I find myself depressingly on the that’s just what fish and birds do..its in their nature. This side of the aisle considers nature a foundational belief, why not here as well? Im not a religious guy, but fallen state and… Read more »

TammyFan
TammyFan
Reply to  CF'Omally
3 years ago

It’s pretty obvious to me what is behind this: Ephesians 6 : 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

dr_mantis_toboggan
Member
Reply to  TammyFan
3 years ago

100% agree. Even if you’re not a believer, it’s easy to see there is obvious evil as the author of this madness.

doubletrouble
doubletrouble
Reply to  TammyFan
3 years ago

Absolutely correct, TF.
I ask people,”cui bono? If you think it all the way through, no earthly person/group/party can benefit from the complete destruction of civilization through the degradation of its (once held) standards.
The prince of the earth is the only one who benefits, in the long run.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
3 years ago

Corporate motivations for embracing the destruction of white civilization are everything. Absent isolating those motivations, we must have some doubt about whether corporations really are the motive force behind the destruction. However, I think Z is largely correct here–corporations are largely to blame for the destruction of white civilization, but the motivation is really not far to seek. Essentially, the AWRs have taken over and coopted capitalism, just as they did mainstream Christianity. Whereas Leftists prior to the 60s spent most of their time railing against capitalism, now they simply use it as a weapon against white civilization. Corporate America,… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

It’s the Left’s jihad as it were

Severian
3 years ago

We’re wondering why people with all the money, luxury goods, and free time in the world are trying to get more by doing this. I think we’re looking at it bassackwards. They don’t want more money, fame, etc. They want meaning. For them, the gold has lost its luster; the salt has lost its taste. They’ve indulged in every kind of personal excess and decadence, but they still feel hollow inside. The only thing that fills the void is meaning. They want to be remembered by posterity, like Renaissance princes. The problem is, they don’t know this about themselves, and… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

You mention “hollow”: = “empty” = “nothing” Nihilism has several meanings. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nihilism “What does it profit a man to gain the world but lose his soul?” (there, I quoted someone besides, yeah, that German guy…) When you have enough money to last a thousand lifetimes, what can you find that’s fulfilling? Could it be that despite having vast wealth, these people yearn for spiritual, emotional, moral, other values, things that cannot be bought with money? Money brings great power, but it also takes away options from its owner: You’d have to trade security for freedom. You probably get paranoid because,… Read more »

Guest
Guest
3 years ago

Attorney here. Noem should have signed the bill and let the chips fall where they may, as the bill was an expression of the legitimate political will of the people of South Dakota. Having said that, she was not wrong about the legal implications of including college sports. The NCAA would have sued South Dakota in a left-leaning circuit, likely DC or NY, the courts would almost certainly grant jurisdiction in that circuit, and we all know how those courts would rule. She’ll finish her term in office, but I suspect her political career is over, and deservedly so. Good… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Guest
3 years ago

Glorious defeat is not a winning strategy, and standing on the sidelines is just losing in slow motion. The hard truth is that the civil mechanisms for conflict resolution are becoming extinct at an accelerating pace and eventually it’s going to take hard men and hard methods to right the ship. Because of the Comfort First Imperative, no one is currently inclined to get their hands dirty with the “alternative” options. But that will change in a heartbeat if things go to Hell in a hurry. Are we there yet? No, but the storm clouds are clearly visible on the… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

TomA, do you see any value in demonstrating to the conservatives that the GOP is entirely bought off by their donors and hence deserve support from no one?

The (good but dumb) Republicans who see Kristi Noem as the next Reagan need to be disabused (and abused). (“We’ll totally own the libs when we nominate a woman! They’ll never call us sexist or misogynist again!”)

TomA
TomA
Reply to  LineInTheSand
3 years ago

First, Kristi Noem is very unlikely to leave South Dakota and shooting her down as a national candidate is a waste of political bullets. Second, the Republicans are, in fact, a big part of the problem and not a potential ally or savior. I would go further and say that the guy that stabs you in the back is a thousand times worse than the guy that punches you in the face head-on. And the longer we perpetuate the myth that we can talk or vote our way out of the mess we’re in, the deeper the hole gets and… Read more »

nailheadtom
nailheadtom
3 years ago

All social change in the US is contingent on the participation of the legal community. When enough money is produced attorneys will be happy to support federal brain implants. Another group of ambulance chasers will take the other side. Everything that goes on in the US involves the secular Levites that emerge from law schools. They are the priesthood of “democracy”. They construct the laws that govern others’ lives, interpret their use and administer the punishment for their violation. Without them, and the system they control, American society would, of course, change over time but not in the bizarre form… Read more »

Good ol' Rebel
Good ol' Rebel
Reply to  nailheadtom
3 years ago

Lawyers are always at the forefront of social change – whether the General Assembly in paris or the Falange. There’s a mid-sized firm worth of esquires in Zman’s commentariat. Lawfare, corporations, and wrenches are simply tools that can be put to good or ill use, by the forces of good or those of the enemy. What the broad right lacks is the organizational opportunity to deploy them.
Speaking of, donate to Freedom X law, Bill Becker does God’s work even if he’s a boomercon.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Good ol' Rebel
3 years ago

I’ve been wondering about that. Maybe the guest attorney will weigh in. If not, it’s up to our jail house lawyers… I say that it’s basically a myth that an attorney is the impartial representative of a client. Now I agree that a person deserves legal representation and at least in criminal cases, has that right, although it will be a public defender of unknown quality. My point is that, far from being disinterested, the cases an attorney takes influence his future career good or bad. Yes, they will chase the bucks, but I’m worried that they will shy away… Read more »

Gagdad Bob
3 years ago

No one is more respectful of “others’ beliefs” than the devil.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Gagdad Bob
3 years ago

Interesting comment. Care to elaborate?

Gagdad Bob
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

You could say that the Devil is the personified form of the principle of scattering and division, or chaos and entropy. Progressives, of course, don’t believe in Satan. Rather, they only rely on him.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Gagdad Bob
3 years ago

In a diverse society, the forces of disunity and anarchy are intrinsically latent. Satan, to the extent he is the author of our misery (and I wouldn’t bet against it), has simultaneously increased diversity and actuated those dormant forces. In short, I’m inclined to agree with you.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
3 years ago

One of the more logical explanations is that the GOP insiders, many of whom are homosexual (especially post Trump, he and his idiot daughter chased the rainbow harder than anything I’ve seen) strongly believe that this will not be in issue in 10 years. They believe that a decade from now every GOP politician will have to explain why they stood in the way of “trans rights.” They still think they have a future, if they can only tweak the electorate just enough. All the world is just a VALS marketing survey to them. There’s no underlying morality, just lifestyle… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

JR Wirth: “They believe that a decade from now every GOP politician will have to explain why they stood in the way of “trans rights.” They still think they have a future, if they can only tweak the electorate just enough.” Example A: See Guest’s comment above, i.e. “Republicans have to fight and win in the culture wars if they want our votes.” So does the proper moral posturing (particularly where there is no risk to the politician) demonstrate “fighting”? What constitutes winning the ‘culture wars’? Will you constantly monitor all of said politician’s employees, see who is hired and… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

The culture war was lost in the 70’s. Literally lost. Even the founding of the “Moral Majority” (an oxymoronic name) was far too late. It’s been a mop up operation ever since. And we’re so far down that road that they don’t even try anymore. Not even a governor of a southern state. We can learn from the Mennonites and Amish to just abandon the whole structure (without abandoning technology). We’ve reached a point where no loving parent should want their child to go to college (in the traditional sense) etc. The whole place will hit the wall anyway when… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Hell, I don’t even want to fly anymore after reading that United Tweet. Sadly, I’m usually on that shitty airline as it has the most convenient schedule for my work. not that the rest of them are better. A couple Shanequas piloting my plane, guided by Jamal, the new air traffic controller, the plane itself having software contracted out to pajeets, getting its million mile servicing in Mexico. It’s like a death wish.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

The Mennonites and Amish immigrated as farmers and they’re farmers to this day. They didn’t “abandon” so much as they just never joined. You raise a good point, though. Why are some groups allowed to go their own way and others not? We know those buses and planes ferrying the border jumpers around the country aren’t placing them in Chinatown, or in the Ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods of NY/NJ, or Martha’s Vineyard.

Pozymandias
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

It may simply be the old question of which house do the burglars hit. What I mean is that the important thing about the border jumpers from the point of view of the oligarchs is simply to get them into the country *somewhere*. Just as the burglar will probably avoid that small house with an old car parked in front in favor of the garish McMansion with the brand new SUV, especially if it looks like no one is ever home. When it comes to the Ultra-Orthodox Jews, the ultra-rich (Martha’s Vineyard), or tribally aware ethnics – they’re always “home”… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

I guess a whole can of worms has been opened by the 2020 Supreme Court decision. It’s not clear to me why the ruling would be limited to employees. Are we now at a point where a person can choose his sex, or change it at will? Today’s essay dealt with transsexuals in sports. Where is the line drawn, if at all? Does a man only have to dress like a woman? Or does he require surgery too? Conjecture: Just as with other civil rights, exceptions will have to be allowed when the simple nature of the work or other… Read more »

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Leaving aside the “morality” issue, one cannot evade the simple fact that there are only two sexes and anyone who chooses to try and fool Mother Nature, so to speak, is easily recognized by the rational and should be treated as mentally ill rather than put in any position of social authority.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
3 years ago

As I recall Asa was a long time Bush crony. I haven’t heard his name since that failure left office. Walmart has such a huge presence in that state it has to be them. Maybe some Walton has an effeminate 10 year old son who happens to be exploring alternative lifestyles. Or possibly as he eluded to during the interview, he got marching orders from the national party which is trying to woo the rainbow mafia any way they can, as they see evangelical christianity on the downswing.

Bill
Bill
3 years ago

That IS a good question: what’s in it for them? Seeing as how trannies comprise a minuscule fraction of the voting population, and most Americans recognize them for the mentally-ill gender-dysphoric sadsacks that they are: why would any politician, or corporation, go out on a limb, and risk alienating voters, in order to support them? And related to that: why has the media fallen in line? Why did they suddenly decide to engage in their campaign to normalize ‘transgenders’? What’s in it for them? Who or what groups are behind the scenes, pressuring them to take this stance? You can… Read more »

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

Wear your mask. “Social” distance. Take the jab. Get in the boxcar.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Moe Noname
3 years ago

Yes, it may all be part of the depop agenda.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Moe Noname
3 years ago

The jab is the boxcar and quarry at the end of the line. Just give it a year.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

They want to normalize the idea that small children are sexual beings who have feelings and desires and autonomy over their bodies. Once this is thoroughly normalized, the next big fight will be for the “sexual rights of children” and their alleged right to sexual autonomy. They want to do away with age of consent laws. If the child “consents,” then a 40yo buggering an 8yo is no longer a crime. Even clownworld has limits. Age of consent laws cannot be targeted by pedos so directly. Peoples’ desires to protect their children is too strong for this line of attack.… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

tarstarkas: You’re directly over the target. I read a book at least 5 -10 years ago (cannot recall title – think I got in through interlibrary loan) about homosexuals infiltrating the Catholic church (I’m not Catholic). There was a long, well researched section on the media campaign to ‘normalize’ homosexuality and homosexual marriage. The people behind it, the money, the careful step-by-step campaign. It was mapped out and took a number of years, but because it was done subtly and gradually, most didn’t really take notice of it until it was all but won. That same campaign, but in a… Read more »

James J O'Meara
James J O'Meara
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

” I read a book at least 5 -10 years ago (cannot recall title – think I got in through interlibrary loan) about homosexuals infiltrating the Catholic church (I’m not Catholic).” You should read a more recent book, In the Closet of the Vatican, which reveals that the homosexuals were always in the Church, and they’re the ones who campaigned for the Church’s “conservative” policies, partly as cover (the lady doth protest) and partly due to their ignorance of and disinterest in normal family life. Hence, NO Divorce, NO birth control, NO sex education, etc. How many “conservatives” really support… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  James J O'Meara
3 years ago

The Church was absolutely correct about “sex education”
Just look at any modern “sex education” for small children (pre-school) and you will be forced to agree that the church was correct.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

Another book to read is “The Last Closet” by Moria Greyland. Her parents were both pedos heavily involved in the science fiction scene of the 60s and 70s. Both of her parents were heavy into NAMBLA and pushed it via the alleged sexual rights of children. She has many other examples of writers, clubs and especially the arts and their connections to both homosexuality and pedophilia. They always justified their degeneracy by appealing to the alleged sexual rights of children. There was just a bruhaha around the “furries” and their penchant with pedophilia and zoo-philia. (Mister Metokur covered it. There… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

The psychologist Jeanine Chasseguet-Smirgel believed that strong, stable societies contain and control perversion, deviance and transgression. Weak and unstable ones, on the other hand, indulge or even promote it. She also argued that societies normalizing deviance is a certain harbinger of disaster. If she’s right–and I think she is–it’s all going to hit the fan rather soon, and I’m perfectly fine with that.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

I think the book was “Goodbye, Good Men” by Michael Rose.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

“Could it be that the content— gay marriage, transgender rights— is not as important as the *process*: of training the public to go along willingly with the latest trend in belief?” I think this may be part of the answer to the question Z was asking about why the corporations do this if it alienates customers. It ties in with something I’ve long speculated about the change in the nature of global capitalism. In the past, when the Western nations had growing (native) populations and natural resources were abundant and mostly untapped, the recipe for success was simple. Find something… Read more »

BTP
Member
3 years ago

So the idea in economics was that you need to have high-powered incentives to make executives focus on corporate profits instead of focusing on whatever makes them personally happy. Turns out our economic system allows the massive fortunes created by giant profits to be used for whatever wicked plans these souls bastards have.

Dostoevsky had these guys figured out. We should have listened.

dowitcher
dowitcher
3 years ago

Everyone is wondering why a profit motivated corporation would be behind such things.

The tribal agenda at play is more important that the survival of any individual corp. The tribe is interested it wielding the power the corp has in service of their centuries long agenda.

Secondly there is no consequence, do you all remember the Gillette ads a while back, any consequence come of that?

The Transgender Industrial Complex is a good book, available from Antelope Hill Publishing.

Reynard
Reynard
Member
Reply to  dowitcher
3 years ago

“there is no consequence, do you all remember the Gillette ads a while back, any consequence come of that?”

Yeah the “get woke, go broke” meme seems to be little more than a coping mechanism. Most companies are woke, and never seem to be anywhere near broke. I guess we should always do what little we can as individuals, but we still have to be realistic– small boycotts just aren’t very effective.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Reynard
3 years ago

Reynard: I wholeheartedly agree that small boycotts are ineffective, but I feel equally strongly that individual boycotts are vitally important. No, your individual purchasing decisions will make no difference to various corporations. Even if all White nationalists joined you, the numbers are insufficient to make a difference. However, I believe each individual White nationalist ought to attempt, as much as possible, to make those decisions for his individual family. It’s not easy, and many times irrelevant (both Coke and Pepsi are anti-White). But if possible, buy from the less woke company. Whenever possible, buy local or no-name brands. If there… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

Why do you avoid diversity? I force myself to go out among my surroundings. Not hide from it. I want a clear picture of what’s going on.

Part of what ails our people is that we withdraw to netflix and amazon to avoid seeing reality. My area is 30% white on paper; at the mall it’s 0% white because whites don’t like going out amongst aliens.

A non pozzed white man really stands out among a mass of vibrants, btw.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

B125: Because I hate the diversity and blind stupid White women no end. I wouldn’t say I’m hiding, I’m trying to avoid the waste of my time. I don’t want to argue with them, I don’t want to see them. I know full well how many of them are here (when I used to take my younger son to the mall indoor play area, 15-20 years ago, he was already a minority among the Han and pajeets). I have no problem not proclaiming my opinions with bumper stickers or stupid signs at my house, but I have a harder time… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

I think some of the difference is generational. The two of you are at least 3 decades apart in age. The grumpy man on his porch is a stereotype for a reason. As you age, you become more inclined to simply avoid aggravations.

Reynard
Reynard
Member
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

3g4me, you bring up great points, as always (I can relate with the soda/Dr.Pepper, and Amazon bugaboos as well. )

“Even baby steps can add up, and we can expand them to all aspects of our lives.”

“Baby steps” is my mantra and advice to new and aspiring gym goers or runners. You are right, I need to apply this more in my everyday life as a dissident.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

Yes to the idea that, regardless of the “big picture” effects of your tiny, little actions, your resistance has value.

After all, what’s their big picture? You, broken, isolated, defeated, and in the end, emotionally exhausted, falling into line. Do it for you, do it in consideration of the message that it sends to those around you, family and friends.

American Citizen 2.0
American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

Well, I agree with your overall point but this is one of those cases where knowing something very specific that the writer does not seem to know makes a huge difference so I feel compelled to mention it: It’s not just “corporations”. The Trans Agenda is being driven by JB Pritzker and his trans brother/sister. JB Pritzker is the governor of Illinois and one of the wealthiest people in the world. Google his sister and read a little bit about her. They are extremely influential in politics. You might even say he orchestrated Barack Obama’s rise to power, or at… Read more »

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

JB the Hutt is also well known for his healthy lifestyle and medical actions which eliminated the Wuhan plague in this fair state.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  American Citizen 2.0
3 years ago

Yup, the Pritz’ are one of the major power factors driving this mess.

iSteve has done many pieces on them over the years.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
3 years ago

Mental illness, sin, whatever you want to call it. Unchecked greed for sure. Also, people without families, or with an unstable identity, make good consumers. No kids to invest in and a giant spiritual hole to fill with material things. Bow down and worship the market god.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

Perhaps the Free Market like our Constitutional Republic was intended for a “moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for any other.” as John Adams wrote, and after 100 years of communist/fascist propaganda in our schools the people are now immoral and anti-religious.

The Constitution has been shredded by the left and the so-called right allowed it. Without a Constitution we have no Republic. And now they pass laws to institutionalize voter fraud, anti-White racism and insane sexual proclivities. Lock and load or get on your knees. I can see no third alternative.

Omni Consumer Products
Omni Consumer Products
3 years ago

Consumers don’t have any rights.
The Branch Covidiocracy is the end of the line for the muh democracy smoke and mirrors.
Enjoy the show as they try to prop up civnattery like some Humpty Dumpty.
Be off good cheer because woketards won’t last very long when the law of the jungle replaces the rule of law.

Cameron
Cameron
3 years ago

I saw part of the interview on Tucker. Allowing children to be chemically-castrated is part of Ronald Reagan’s legacy or something.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

Yeah, that’s funny and pathetic at the same time. The picture of a man who’s lost his soul.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

Yep. The guy was caught in Tucker’s headlights and thought waving a Reagan flag would stop the on coming truck load of crap.

Gagdad Bob
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

Yes, the legacy of Ron Jr.

Melissa
Melissa
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

It’s what Reagan and Buckley would have wanted.

Sidvic
Sidvic
Member
3 years ago

Sieg Heil. I hope the NJP runs a couple of people to cycle.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

Maybe America has been conquered by some foreign power, which is now enforcing its ideology onto America.

I don’t think that’s actually happened. It’s a crazy idea.

But the really crazy thing is that is a more rational explanation, that fits the fact pattern, than any other. Especially as Z noted that no one pushing this shit has an obvious reason for doing so.

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

“Maybe America has been conquered by some foreign power, which is now enforcing its ideology onto America.”

I can think of a certain foreign power with a special wall at which US presidential candidates pray while wearing a small hat.

Starboard
Starboard
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

If the people — who thru organized patient action got control of the boards of the huge pension funds of the teachers’ and municipal employees’ unions — said as shareholders in Coca Cola or American Airlines or Delta that management should to do X, what do you think the CEOs would do? The Left organizes and complains while the other shareholders are silent and the customer base is unorganized for action. What do they say about the Squeaky Wheel? It’s very much like the governors’ relation to their donors and their base. One is organized and quietly exerts its influence;… Read more »

Strike Three
Strike Three
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

The old Invasion of the Body Snatchers film (1950s version) was a metaphor for the international Communist conspiracy. Now the movie is quaintly corny, but back in the day I’m sure it had the John Birch Society types pretty worked up. I know you’re right; we have been conquered by Something. It gets to determine what words mean, and has normally rational people affirming that 2 + 2 = 5. Whatever it takes to make it till retirement, and to keep that 401k percolating, people will do it. I don’t know where to draw the line, personally. I want to… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

The 1978 version of Body Snatchers is the one to watch now.

tristan
tristan
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

The director himself said it was no such thing. This is a trope penned by the left wanting to classify it as a hysterical cold war reaction. Siegel said it was made due to the rise in what he called the pod people he was seeing around him. He said he was disturbed at the number of people who “have no feeling about cultural things, no feeling of pain, of sorrow”. IF that does not describe what we see now I am not sure what does. The domination in public of the hollowed out individual is like the last scene… Read more »

dinothedoxie
dinothedoxie
Reply to  Strike Three
3 years ago

Lying will set you free.

Robert Corliss
Robert Corliss
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

“When you see the dopamine-dispensing treats of technocapital you might think you see a world of freedom and choices, but this is merely the IV drip of product to keep you medicated to the will of others. Ask yourself, what autonomy do you truly have to be outside of this system? None. You are living in a false reality. Remember, like anything else, liberalism seeks to dominate and being the flexible nothingness it must then dominate everything. Conquerors do not invade territory to do nice things to it and especially for the people that reside there.” — “The Feasts of… Read more »

dinothedoxie
dinothedoxie
Reply to  Robert Corliss
3 years ago

IMO, networked tech, especially social media, is a new form of drug addiction – with all that implies.

The drug being your own dopamine.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  dinothedoxie
3 years ago

Spot on. Social Media is pure poison and the people at the top openly admit it. Heck they don’t even let their own kids near or have tablets until they are in their teens. Why? Because it stunts their emotional and intellectual growth.

Secondly don’t forget to factor in rapidly declining testosterone and sperm counts in the West. By some accounts men of the West will be shooting blanks by 2045.

We’re being poisoned, folks and put on the road to extinction. By who I don’t know. But we are the target.

G Lordon Giddy
G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

In thinking of ways to fight this we have to make it painful for our political leaders. How to do that? Well obviously they don’t seem to be bothered opposing their own people right now even on an issue that destroys their own peoples children and civilization. The only thing I can think of this morning is shunning. If they had a sense of shame for what they are doing and their own families are ashamed of them instead of living like nobles off their relatives political career. That is where organizations that might have value to the political leaders… Read more »

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

Whatever has gripped them, is immune to actual public opinion and self interest.

It’s some weird pseudo religious movement, that like early Christianity, that causes the suffering of the faithful to increase the depth of their belief.

Vizzini
Vizzini
Reply to  G Lordon Giddy
3 years ago

we have to make it painful for our political leaders

Gunshot wounds are painful. Just sayin’.

Severian
3 years ago

By now, everyone is probably sick to death of that O’Brien quote from 1984, so I won’t cut and paste it here. But… he’s right for all that. It really does seem to be hubris, plain and simple. Just this morning I had a big fight with my Internet provider. My signal is terrible, it has been terrible, it has no prospect of getting better. Their customer service — when I finally got through all the robots — basically told me to go f*ck myself, they’ll get around to sending a technician when and if they feel like it, and… Read more »

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

It’s weird right? We grew up with the paradigm that the customers always right and companies at least paid lip service to that. With the unstated premise that companies wanted to increase their sales – they’d chase the next transaction to ridiculous ends. But now, it’s like that don’t give a shit if people leave. They’re gonna do what the want and if the customers don’t like it and go away, we’ll who cares. I think it’s at least partially a consequence of the change in business over the last several decades. It used to be that businesses made money… Read more »

Severian
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

In the case of the ISP, at least, de facto monopoly has something to do with it. They’re the landline company in my area. The “competition” is satellite… which, thanks to things like trees and buildings and whatnot, is only available in certain areas — if you’re not on the edge of town surrounded by fields, forget it. Actually cutting the cord would entail some actual “hardship” (if going without any electronic gizmo is a “hardship”), but it’s to that point. It’s like Winston Churchill said: This situation absolutely requires a really stupid, futile gesture be done on someone’s part.… Read more »

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

“…and we’re just the guys to do it.”
B. Blutarski

dinothedoxie
dinothedoxie
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

I half joke that Facebook is actually a CIA front whose real purpose is spying on people and that they accidentally found a way to get rich by manipulating the stock / a conduit for the FEDs money creation.

It’s a completely crazy idea that I don’t actually believe.

Except that it’s an explanation that better fits the facts of Facebook’s origination and growth and current practices a lot better than the “real” explanation of a tech startup by the genius Zuck.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Just weighing in on a strict tech question: cell (mobile data) vs. cable internet? I’ve tried both and it’s almost impossible to beat cable internet. In favor of the cell service, almost any phone today can turn into a wi-fi “hotspot.” The data speeds are acceptable but rarely match what cable delivers. But the killer is cost and/or data caps. Unless your use is extremely light: checking email and perhaps some web surfing, it’ll almost always be cheaper to have cable. Even if you’re that super-light user, a single Windows 10 upgrade will burn up your monthly data. Streaming music… Read more »

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

I run a business, and can say that I’ve definitely reached a point where I don’t really care about customer complaints. I’ve been reflecting on it a lot, and I think it comes down to two things: there aren’t many competitors in my market that can offer the same product at a reasonably close price, and there is more demand for my product than in could ever hope to produce in five lifetimes. I would guess this is applicable to other businesses as well. If you can get stuff done and you’re competitors can’t, you can afford to slough off… Read more »

sentry
sentry
3 years ago

“The fact is though, it appears that the engine of revolutionary social change, like the ritual mutilation of children, is being driven by global corporations.” Of the 52 senior executives of the largest American asset management firms, private equity funds and hedge funds, 37 are J*uws, have J*uwish spouses or work directly towards Zionist interests. This is a numerical representation of 71%. those “investment management firms” have their tentacles in basically every major western corporation out there. Sure, one can say the other 29% have other agendas, chinese agendas or whatever, but I’m thinking the 29% have to play ball… Read more »

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Add in all of the shares BlackRock and State Street own in their index ETF’s. Vote your 100 shares of Coke to determine the board of directors? Ha. These two institutions control every company in the S&P 500, DJIA and Nasdaq. Every two weeks, I give them my retirement funds to have even more power.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Moe Noname
3 years ago

Larry Fink – Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of BlackRock (Ashkenazi)
Robert Kapito – President of BlackRock(Ashkenazi)

this criminal group owns shares at facebook, twitter, google, microsoft…etc
And then whites wonder why they’re getting censored or banned from these platforms?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago
The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

There is enormous money behind World War T.

Good money is being paid to make this stuff happen.

The new book, “The Transgender Industrial Complex,” has a pretty good run down on it.

B125
B125
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Does it explain *why* though?

To me the most accurate explanation is that somebody is trying to destroy the United States. Confused gender roles, legalized drugs and crime, open borders with the 3rd world, etc.

DinoDixie mentions above that maybe we have been conquered by a foreign power. The only two possibilities are China or Israel. Maybe China actually has complete control and is trying to destroy the USA to weaken it?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Well, you got me since I’ve only listened to interviews with the author.

That said, does the why matter? Does it really help us fight back and defeat these forces?

I feel there are multiple foreign factions working to destroy the US, with the two you mentioned being the most prominent and powerful.

Of those two, I couldn’t say which one is dominant. I have my strong opinion, though I understand many disagree with it.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

The only thing foreign about America’s destruction is the French poststructuralist theory American academia imported in the 60s and has since used to sow every civilization-destroying force imaginable. The rot is overwhelmingly internal. Outside forces are only capitalizing on what we’ve done to ourselves.

tristan
tristan
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

The reason why is: Fuck you that is why. Each step is just picking the next grossly humiliating fuck you that everyone feels they have to pay lip service to or the eye of sauron will turn on them and they will be ablated from the earth. As Severian points out, it is the whole point. Its like the torture films with the guy keeping someone in a cell in his basement and tortures them day in day out. What is the point of that other than they can, and the more humiliation you have to swallow the better the… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

But what are the CEOs of the corporations getting out of this?

To quote one of my favorite movies (Miller’s Crossing) and characters, Tom: “You do things for a reason.”

What’s their angle? Their getting something out of the personally or they wouldn’t do it. My guess is that the giant multi-nationals are so safe in their positions that the people running them can move up the “levels of needs” hierarchy to love and belonging and esteem.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

If I could hazard a guess, it’s that today’s CEOs are the first ones to reach that position having spent nearly their entire career subjected to the DIE regime. If my place of work is any indication, you cannot get to even a local department manager position without being a publicly enthusiastic supporter of vibrancy and girl power. To become a plant manager requires even more ardent support. To reach the corporate office you have to be completely obeisant, as well as actively reinforce the same beliefs among the leaders below you. Anyone who makes it to CEO, President, or… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

That makes a lot of sense. There’s always a 20 to 30 year lag in all of this. The 55-year-old CEO started working his way up 30 years ago – 1990. Maybe some non-believers were moving up in the 1990s but after 2000, you had to be on board with globohomo.

B125
B125
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

My ceo is a white gentile man, in his 50s. As far as I can tell he’s a true believer in Globohomo. Not a dark triad guy saying all the right things. But a true believer.

You would think a man would have more self respect than to constantly be debasing himself, and promoting blacks, women, trannies, whatever.

The vibrants don’t like him anyways, not only is he white but they don’t respect his weakness. he still seems to view himself as a benevolent overseer.

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
3 years ago

It bears repeating:
The BlackRock and State Street ETF’s own the stock market.
Vote your 100 individal shares of Coke to determine the board of directors? Ha.
These two institutions control every company in the S&P 500, DJIA and Nasdaq.
Every two weeks, I give them my retirement funds to have even more power.
My alternate investment strategy, copper and lead, is rational, but not conducive to a life of anything beyond “Lord of the Flies” or “Mad Max”.

tashtego
Member
Reply to  Moe Noname
3 years ago

It can’t hurt to diversify a bit. 10-20K in strategy 2 even right now results in a decent set of tools.

Milestone D
Milestone D
3 years ago

The reason a business case for corporate woke-ism is hard to find is that it largely doesn’t exist. But corporations are clearly motivated to be seen on the “side of the angels” so someone is driving that trend. Tucker et. al. have suggested its an intentional mask to deflect public attention from their kleptocratic efforts. But that seems a bit too clever. That wouldn’t explain why, for example, the Boy Scouts would alienated their biggest supporters and 25% of their total membership (the mormons) to make common cause with people who would never associated themselves with something as retrograde and… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Milestone D
3 years ago

The only first level explanation I can come up with is the mega corps honesty believe they can maximize their demographic reach, and thus their profits, via the implementation of repressive tolerance.

Still seems too simple.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

They don’t care about customers or profits. They’re beyond that now.

An Anon On the Run
An Anon On the Run
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

When your company has a captive market, it doesn’t matter what the customer thinks. “Buy my stuff or don’t, somebody will.” Freemarketers should have thought of that before they let these companies take over everything. Corporate monopolies are so powerful now they can do whatever they want, including harming the customer, and get away with it. That’s why I’ve always said communism and libertarianism are two sides to the same coin. Both inevitably lead to tyranny when the logic of the philosophy is played out: communism leads to state monopolization of power, leading to fewer choices and reduced liberties; libertarianism… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Sure. To them more consumers=more profits. They are completely insulated from the social costs (which are passed along to the working- and middle- classes.)

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Milestone D
3 years ago

I’m not sure that Roberts was ever anything other than a squish.

dinothedoxie
dinothedoxie
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

One look at him was enough to raise my hackles and never trust the fucker.

Same goes with Amy Comey Barrett.

PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
Reply to  Milestone D
3 years ago

Reference the Boy Scouts: Recall in the 90s the left’s fury at them opposing homosexual scoutmasters and openly gay scouts. They declared war and vowed to block longstanding community partnerships, take the national board, and permanently transform the organization. It was a matter for them of crushing Scouting. They did all that, and more, sealing the coffin with the opening the organization to girls. They effectively killed BSA. Read the original intent and charter of the organization — clearly BSA no longer remotely carries forward that mission. Looking closer, you can see the rot began in ‘59, when girls were… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  PrimiPilus
3 years ago

BSA’s decline and fall is a true microcosm of America’s.

Leonard E Herr
Member
3 years ago

“What the hell is going on?”. It certainly seems like we’ve entered bizarro world, but that is only if you base it on what a logical and sane person would think. If history is to be believed, societies, tribes, families, any human grouping, often go mad and destroy themselves for what from our perspective looks like insane reasons. Perhaps it’s the fatal flaw in the evolutionary fitness of intelligence: that way leads to madness. Given the resources of the modern technological world and the depth of insanity we’re seeing, we may have only scratched the surface of were this goes.… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Leonard E Herr
3 years ago

At this rate, we’re headed for the Hell dimension in the deleted scene from, “Event Horizon.”

That film is definitely not on the AFI list.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Leonard E Herr
3 years ago

“Dark Angel” but with with the lead actress (Jessica Alba debuts at peak freshness) replaced by Stacey Abrams or Oprah Winfrey. I’m sure more horrific visions can arise, but that’s what sprang to mind first.

TomA
TomA
3 years ago

First, Kristi Noem will cut your balls off. She’s no pushover, despite the smear campaign being waged against her by the MSM & Conservative Inc. Second, she didn’t veto the bill, she sent it back to the legislature & asked for 3 small changes in it. Why? Because the bill as passed would fall prey to a diabolical legal strategy by Progressives who own the Eighth Circuit of the Court of Appeals (which includes South Dakota). The legislation (as passed) would have been tied up in court for many years, during which all high school sports in the state would… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

You’ve pointed out the major flaw in her plan: she is contorting her beliefs to exist inside the system instead of challenging the system itself. You see this with nominal conservatives (like her) exclaiming about protecting Title 9 when the basis for Title 9 means the eventual victory of the trans brigade since it’s whole basis of fact is ignoring sex differences.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

Kristi Noem is a governor and only has influence over state law. She can feasibly obstruct the trans agenda for high school and younger girls in her state, who number in the tens of thousands. Title 9 is federal law, which can only be changed by a wholesale replacement of Congress. No governor can fix that. And there are only a few hundred women in South Dakota competing at the college level. Kristi Noem has been clear that she would like to see Title 9 changed, but that is not a battle she can win by herself, and she’s not… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

So rather than fighting and losing she elects to just lose with no fight.

I get what you’re saying: within the existing paradigm she is powerless before globohomo. It is asking a lot of any politician, especially a lady politician, to challenge the existing paradigm, but that’s what people were looking for.

Stephanos Xytegenios
Stephanos Xytegenios
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Kristi Noem, will betray you. She already has, and you are coming up with rationalizations as to why. I suspect you don’t want to confront the fact that you bought all of your stock in a politician who proceeded to sell you out yet again like all the others. The question becomes whether you will double down because of your ego, and sink along with her, or decide to cash in the chips while they are worth something.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Stephanos Xytegenios
3 years ago

You can find Kristi Noem’s public policy positions online and also the as-passed legislation wording, plus analysis by legal experts in South Dakota (not the national lapdogs of Left). Do your homework.

Noem is tough as nails and not the typical DC corruptocrat that is being pitched in the media. South Dakota is 85% Caucasian, largely rural, and still very religious. She’s been elected to office 17 times in her home state. The people of South Dakota seem to think very well of her.

An Anon On the Run
An Anon On the Run
Reply to  Stephanos Xytegenios
3 years ago

A lot of her supporters came from people mad about Covid-19 restrictions. I suspect this is true of several of the posters here. They invested a lot into anti-Covid commentary, so they feel an attachment to the figures involved in its opposition. The same is true of people who support other anti-Covid restriction politicians like Israel Firster Ron Desantis and neocon Tom Cotton … and both will similarly disappoint you one day. These politicians all follow the same playbook: use social issues to get elected, sign legislation benefiting themselves and their donors while ignoring the social issues that got them… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  An Anon On the Run
3 years ago

We discuss our political leaders here as if they actually stand on principles. Perhaps they do at times. I very rarely see any discussion of what the primary motive for a person seeking to gain (or hold) office likely is: money and political power. I get that we’d like to think that individuals and groups are motivated by high, lofty, noble ideals, and again, perhaps they are at times. How often are we (likely) deluded by the impression that “our” guy is “better” than “their” guy? I’m not saying that all men are equally good or evil, far from it.… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Then why not put in her own bill?

Or sign this bill and publicly fight the evil parts in court, every hearing a chance to get on camera and tell the world what the other side is trying to do.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

TomA: Noem may look good posturing, but in many cases that’s all it is. She very carefully chose NOT to choose to opt out of refugee resettlement in South Dakota. I’m willing to be convinced otherwise, but am presently intensely suspicious of any politician being pushed as the next ‘genuine conservative’ savior. Most are civnats at best, and very few people have really looked into the money and forces behind them.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

I fully support holding politicians feet to the fire and making them accountable for their decisions. And there are a gazillion RINOs that should be hanged in the public square for their treachery. But Kristi Noem is not one of them. She picks her battles carefully and plays to win, not engage in glorious defeats. South Dakota is experiencing a huge influx of businesses moving there from other states because of the favorable legislative environment, and these jobs are helping them keep their young people in-state rather than migrate to urban areas elsewhere. South Dakota is a bastion of old… Read more »

An Anon On the Run
An Anon On the Run
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

What is it with conservatives and making excuses for their leaders, whether it is Noem’s betrayal or Trump’s many failures and betrayals? They get scammed, then excuse the scam artist. Maybe that’s why they think you’re a convenient target?

TomA
TomA
Reply to  An Anon On the Run
3 years ago

Why don’t we leave the personal invective aside and talk about nuts & bolts facts. The South Dakota legislature passed a bill that includes college sports in their ban on transgender competition in women’s sports. This makes it a federal case because of Title 9 and guarantees a federal court legal challenge that will last years and likely lose due to Liberal judges. During this years-long delay, all women’s sports in SD (read high school & younger) would be subject to transgender competition during appeal. Noem asked the legislature to drop the college part, which keeps high school & under… Read more »