Time For A Divorce

Elections in America have always been contentious things, as the point of them is to get all sides as agitated as possible. If you wanted to find the point at which our elections turned ugly it would be when the concept of turnout became the focus. The surest way to get your guys motivated to vote is to convince them that the alternative is pure evil, the worst thing imaginable. Since one side will always lose, it means something close to half the country is always angry at the result.

The thing is though, it was always a game and most people got it. The candidates would say the vilest things about one another, but then carry on like old pals during a debate, showing the world they did not really mean those things. In fact, this is why the Left has controlled the country. Everyone else has always been sure the Left was not really serious about what they were saying. Despite it all, many people remain convinced that the Left today is just putting on a show.

That may be one of the factors creating the current crisis. The eruption of mass media over the last couple of decades puts the Left in our face all the time. There is no escaping politics today, which means there is no escaping the Left. Watch a sporting event and there will be lefty political preaching. Check the weather for your trip to the beach and you get a lecture on global warming. Go outside and you see people wearing three masks in their car, letting you know they are in that cult.

Of course, social media is like standing in front of a firehose. Even if you only want to follow something banal like entertainment news, you will be drenched in political commentary, almost entirely from the Left. The carnies all fashion themselves as philosophers now. The athletes have made politics a feature of their act. These are the dumbest, crudest people in our society, but they are sure you need to know what they have to say about current events.

There is another part to this. Along with not being able to escape the left-wing crazies, it is becoming increasingly clear that there is no living with them. Politics, regardless of the system, is about compromise. The opposing sides find some middle ground that they can accept or some combination of their proposals that prevent either side from feeling cheated by the other. In a democracy, compromise is based on the understanding that both sides want what is best.

How do you reach a compromise with someone who thinks invisible men from a faraway land used mind control to change an election? On top of that, they were perfectly willing to destroy the country over it. If one side is sure the other side is evil, there can never be a compromise. The best you can get is a truce in the hostilities, but eventually one side will attack again. After all, any compromise with evil is immoral on its face, so the only more thing to do is confront it.

Take a look at this tweet from a man who is the former Director of CIA & NSA. He is convinced that we need to round up citizens and put them in concentration camps because they said things he does not like. The regime has already imprisoned dozens of people on trumped up charges. America is now a country with political prisoners being tortured while in prison. This ghoul wants to institutionalize the persecution and torture of Americans who disagree with official policy.

How can you compromise with a person who literally wants you dead? Even if you dismiss him as a fanatic, look at the responses. The people replying to him are both demented and delusional. It is not unreasonable to say that many of them are suffering from a form of mental illness. If you think the capitol protests were an insurrection or comparable to a terrorist attack, you need to be institutionalized. There is no reasoning or compromising with someone in this condition.

The thing is, of course, is the majority of the ruling class truly believes they are confronting an invisible army of white supremacists. If you polled the media, you can be sure that the overwhelming majority think the protestors are getting off easy. At the same time, they think the two blacks who killed the Uber driver in DC were given rough justice, because racism. We live with people who think it is fine for blacks to murder people, but you cannot question the results of the last election.

The old civic nationalist response to this is “well we just have to make sure to vote for the Republicans in the next election.” Even if conservatives were something other than apologists for their masters on the Left, it does not change the fact that close to half the country wants to murder you. They are not going to lose an election and then think, “Geez, maybe I don’t need to murder that guy with the Trump flag.” Instead, they are going get even more deranged and murderous.

Again, politics has always been contentious, and the Left has always thought they were on a holy mission against the forces of evil. The pretty lie that made it possible to live together was that we all wanted what was best for the country. Like a couple realizing they no longer love one another, we have reached the point where we know we can no longer live with that 20% called the Left. The only possible compromise is with ourselves, which is just another way of describing surrender.

If there is to be a solution to the current crisis it will come when enough white people give up on this relationship with the Left. The people living in whites-only neighborhoods chanting about antiracism are beyond reason. The people demanding the state torture citizens who question official policy can never be trusted. The only peaceful solution is peaceful separation. The only compromise is how best to divvy up the property and even that is only to expedite the divorce. It is time to move on.


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Quarter Master
Quarter Master
3 years ago

I find the opposition to national divorce both perplexing and disturbing considering how obviously correct the suggestion seems to be. Maybe I’m missing something, but I tend to doubt it as a plausible alternative has never been offered in all my searching. If it existed and could be enacted, I’d support it. But I haven’t found it, so I am forced to agree with the Z-Man out of necessity rather than desire. This country is quickly slipping into a fascist dictatorship with talk of court packing, censorship, corporate reprisals for legislative policy and criminalizing dissent. Is that not obvious? Is… Read more »

Quarter Master
Quarter Master
Reply to  Quarter Master
3 years ago

Other Excuses: “They’ll never let us go!” Why do we need their permission, and how are they going to stop us? As has been pointed out already, many red states are too large to physically occupy with an army for a sustained period of time. They can’t do this while also running an army disproportionately manned by our people and patrolling the globe. I’m sure they will do something, but will it be enough against sustained opposition? At the very least, it’ll harm their credibility, and hasten the end of their empire, should they resort to any extreme measure to… Read more »

Watchingtheweasels
Watchingtheweasels
Reply to  Quarter Master
3 years ago

The most opposition to national divorce will come from red state republican politicians who want to continue to think theyhave a future in politics at the national level and their blue state parasite friends who want to tqx us to death.

Look at the Texas GOP types who aren’t board with the Texas Nationalist Movement.

Quarter Master
Quarter Master
Reply to  Quarter Master
3 years ago

There are many conservatives, economic populists, post-libertarians, and assorted contrarians who think we can vote our way out of this, that we can work within the current system. Frankly, I don’t see how. Race trumps class for enough people. Why can’t the democrats use their media to gin up racial hate against us until they win just enough minority votes to retain power? Companies like Amazon know racial diversity equals division. That’s why they promote it. Exploiting diversity is an effective means to break union solidarity. Why can’t this work on a national level? I see no reason why an… Read more »

Quarter Master
Quarter Master
Reply to  Quarter Master
3 years ago

[Media ginning up racial conflict] “They are trying to manipulate us into taking the bait. There is absolutely nothing that they would love more than another accelerationist mass shooting.” True, but is that the only option? And is a country that would try to incite violence really worth our loyalty? Inciting violence for political ends is basically the official government policy now. That’s why all these far-left networks gin up anti-White conspiracy theories. They’re hoping to incite violence so they can retaliate and live out their dreams of punishing their hated enemies in a righteous good war against them. If… Read more »

Shnarkle Von Barkle
Shnarkle Von Barkle
Reply to  Quarter Master
3 years ago

So where does one go after the divorce is finalized? Any suggestions?

Quarter Master
Quarter Master
Reply to  Quarter Master
3 years ago

The way I see it, we have two choices. We can try to unite the multi-ethnic working class in some kind of grand populist voting coalition or we can divorce and have a supermajority state of our own. Both carry risks. If we go with the election strategy and lose, there is no backup. The country will be so flooded with foreigners by then that every red state will be blue – every conservative county will be a mini Tibet, flooded with dissimilar foreigners imported to put us down. No freedoms, a bad economy, and constant racial hate aimed at… Read more »

Quarter Master
Quarter Master
Reply to  Quarter Master
3 years ago

On the other hand, if we try to secede and lose … well, the immediate consequences could also be quite bad (or maybe not). Regardless, the result will be the same as if we try the election route and lose. And it need not be violent, either. We could take over several state governments and arrange a vote. Several state legislators in Texas have made this point. Some authors are also trying to argue Texas independence is legal via the terms Texas entered the Union. And just recently the Georgia governor retaliated against Biden’s hateful lies by publicly declaring the… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

I’m suprised no one posted the sad news of Phillip Adams. (I’m reading a lot into this, based on assumptions, so forgive me if I get some details wrong, or my biases show.) I wasn’t able to find a detailed biography of Adams. I was a bit suprised that he was born, lived and died in his home town of Rock Hill, SC. It is about 38% black. That’s about triple the national average. That statistic alone will tell you the local violent crime rate will be triple — at least — the national average. Negro Ex-NFL player goes nuts… Read more »

Bill
Bill
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Yeah, VDARE covered that story.

They have lots of informative articles detailing these issues you bring up; including the fact that Blacks are much more likely than other races to be psychopaths.

Of course, all right-thinking people realize that it’s the dreaded evil of WHITE SUPREMACY that’s causing these poor oppressed Blacks to do what they do….

InnerCynic
InnerCynic
3 years ago

Separation IS the only solution. Not that those wishing to keep it together would willingly give it to you… you’re going to have to grab it for yourselves. Its like being in an abusive relationship. Are you going to let yourself continue being beaten black and blue making excuses for the perp who repeatedly lies to your face that they’ll “change” or will you pack up the kids and split? The other party will more than likely threaten to kill you if you get any “ideas” about leaving. That’s how dysfunctional and sick it currently is… the control freaks, as… Read more »

imbroglio
imbroglio
3 years ago

“If there is to be a solution to the current crisis it will come when enough white people give up on this relationship with the Left.”

Why just whites? There’s a growing number of non-whites who oppose the Left while it’s whites who most fervently promote the Left.

Recall Richard III who, in extremis, offered to swap his kingdom for a horse. Henry Tudor replied, “I’ve got the horse and now it seems I’ve got the kingdom, so what’s to deal?” Candace Owens or Nancy Pelosi, who’s your friend?

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  imbroglio
3 years ago

Have you learned nothing from the obvious failure of multiracialism?

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3 years ago

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Bill
Bill
3 years ago

Look at how eagerly Blacks are embracing this “racial reckoning”! The more articulate ones losing no opportunity to hurl invectives and criticism, the less sophisticated ones attacking physically. They’ve been waiting forever to get back at Whitey, and they’re going at it in every way they know how. From the “women of color” in the woke media incessantly complaining about yet another transgression against them by Whites, to the Black thugs on the street venting their hatred by randomly and brutally attacking strangers of other races— it’s clear that Blacks have been waiting for this moment of vengeance for a… Read more »

John Miller
John Miller
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

Vengeance kills twice! Those Blacks that take up that cudgle will reap the harvest, I believe however they are in the minority egged-on by the communists among us.

Bill
Bill
Reply to  John Miller
3 years ago

Yes, they’re definitely being egged-on!
Does anyone really imagine that the increase of Black-on-White attacks has nothing to do with all the anti-White hate rhetoric, and the constant reminders to Blacks about how Whites oppress them?

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

There has always been massive amounts of black on white violence. And it’s not even close to being all about revenge. Look at the way they kill each other at the drop of a hat..

InnerCynic
InnerCynic
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

I’m always amazed at how tone-deaf and disconnected those moon bats who howl about “systemic racism” blah blah blah. Really? A system purportedly so evil, and “systemic” (mustn’t forget to throw that word in there again and again) that it allowed you to rise to prominence so you could bitch and complain from a position of prestige and power? All I can say is that’s some mighty cockeyed racism if there ever was one.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  InnerCynic
3 years ago

Race aside, you are expecting rational behavior from the clearly insane. Or is it? Perhaps they’ve just been trained to beg? These and other recipients have been given one benefit after another. Feel unfulfilled? Just cry “racism!” and some new perk will magically appear. It’s almost as though they have a magic lamp; just rub it and the Genie will appear. In the legend, only three wishes were granted. But they keep rubbing the lamp; at some point the magic account is overdrawn and they are just left with a useless lamp. Also worth mentioning is that much of the… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

I agree with many of your points, but there is one glaring omission. The entire premise of civil rights or equal treatment under the law rested on the assumption that the Negro race was on the same level, or could reach the same level, as Whites. This, I believe is a fatally flawed assumption. Leaving aside the fact that every individual will be unique in various ways, it remains a fact that there are dramatic differences in the norms of Black vs. White culture. It is simply impossible to expect these two (or other) races to live by the same… Read more »

Bill
Bill
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
3 years ago

Yep: and it wasn’t that long ago that most White people thought the same; including Abraham Lincoln: “I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will for ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be… Read more »

the lone ranger joe
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

I have no doubt whatsoever that negro and white can never live in peace together.The physical and mental differences are very obviously too great.Negros were brought to the Americas as slaves,a big wrong and mistake.The settlers from Europe should have done the work themselves in the plantations and the rest of the dirty work as well. It would have taken a little more time to get things done but would have avoided conflict down the road. Now the negro is free and could move back to Africa to be amongst his own people, and be finally happy.Africa is a big… Read more »

Roy
Roy
Reply to  Bill
3 years ago

Read “They were White and They were Slaves: The untold History of White Servitude in America” by Michael A. Hoffman II. You will find that there were more white slaves than black slaves . . . furthermore, the black slaves were much more valuable than the white slaves and were treated much better by their owners.

Ripple
Ripple
3 years ago

A blog comment I read somewhere a few months ago put it well: If we can’t even agree on what makes a man a man and a woman a woman then we can’t get along.

My Comment
Member
3 years ago

Separation is a waste of time until we have a cultural revolution. After separation the tribe would still control our media, entertainment, financial system and much of social media. The left would still control our schools. Our churches would still be morally compromised and on the side of the enemy. The Chamber of Commerce would still want cheap labor. The young in our states would be increasingly brown and Sjw. Our single women would still be insane. Israel would still bet our greatest ally. In other words the same dynamics would be in place and soon we would be right… Read more »

acetone
Member
Reply to  My Comment
3 years ago

Separation? You can’t get there from here. Not without alot of fed posting.

An Anon On the Rud
An Anon On the Rud
Reply to  acetone
3 years ago

Most of these posts in opposition to separation are probably feds. I’ve noticed an influx of anon accounts. Thus, the constant red herring arguments and misinformation and scaremongering and repetition of debunked talking points.

acetone
Member
Reply to  An Anon On the Rud
3 years ago

I didn’t downvote you, but you misunderstood my post.

I think there is general agreement on the ends. People posting here agree that separation, or a reconquista, or something like it is a necessity. The question then is the means. Other countries that have encountered similar challenges typically employ means that involve some level of coercion. Discussion of these means with respect to our position is unwise but perhaps necessary.

Yarvin makes a nice effort in this direction here:
https://graymirror.substack.com/p/reflections-on-the-late-election

An Anon On the Run
An Anon On the Run
Reply to  My Comment
3 years ago

No, that’s completely wrong. It’s just another excuse to do nothing. You want people to sit around waiting for something that will never happen (a cultural revolution against the total combined power of the state and majority public opposition) because you don’t really want anything to happen. It’s a red herring. You don’t really think such a cultural revolution will ever happen, which is why you want people to waste their efforts trying to make one or sit around waiting for one. After we separate, we can use the new government to seize the media on our terms and create… Read more »

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  An Anon On the Run
3 years ago

Right. The culture is fine for the most part in many geographic locations. It’s the leadership that has to change.

Look at the way people responded to Trump’s original platform. There are plenty of people who are ready..

Him
Him
3 years ago

Gen. Micheal Hayden while the head of the NSA initiated the program to create an algorithm for every single American. For what purpose? For control.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Him
3 years ago

So give the algorithm a bunch of random garbage to chew on.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
3 years ago

After 17 years youtube still doesn’t know what commercials to show me…

Chas
Chas
3 years ago

Well Hayden lives in a lovely house on Chesterfield Ave in Mc Lean, VA. I’m sure he and his wife would welcome visitors to discuss his communist agenda…

Frip
Member
3 years ago

What happened to most people’s avatars? I cannot connect with any of the 4 “connect with” links in the comment window to enable avatar. Any advice? Or link to explanation of what happened? Thanks

Member
3 years ago

Absolutely right !!! The previous post cooncerns Dual-Seedline Christian Identity dogma & doxology regarding the Exodus 1551 BC back when whigger Aryan Israelites were ruled over by jews — Amorite Canaanite Hyksos — as opposed to today when ZOGling whigger Aryan ass-clowns are ruled over by Hivite/Hittite/Khazar/Ashkenazi jews as part of my Exodus 2021 sermons of my The Dying ZOG podcasts. Relatively tame and I’ll thank the Z-man who is the bestest GenX Whigger-Whimperer in the WN 3.0 bizness for letting me post it on his blog which I read every day and disagree with at least half of it.… Read more »

b125
b125
Reply to  Pastor Lindstedt
3 years ago

please get help

Laura Crockett
Reply to  b125
3 years ago

I second that sentiment. Or Paster M might try writing screenplays.

Juri
Juri
3 years ago

Without productive people, communists starve to death. This is the reason why communists always needed slaves or camps. So, communists never accept divorce or separation even in smallest form. Parasite can not live without host This will come down they our yours. Good news is that entire planet knows this so welcome to WW III

Peach Contender
Peach Contender
3 years ago

Just yesterday, a man posted on this forum about his experience of being confronted by a group of far-leftist students … in bible study. Homeschooling isn’t the solution you think it is. Studies have repeatedly shown children take cues more from their peers than their parents. Judith Rich Harris wrote a book about this entitled, “The Nurture Assumption” (tl;dr: it’s wrong). You can teach your kids at home, but it’s the wider society that matters in forming their beliefs, at least the part that isn’t influenced by genetics. If you want healthy children, you need a healthy society to raise… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Peach Contender
3 years ago

Think about it. Prior to industrialization children were “socialized” by their (1) parents and siblings, (2) extended family, (3) their Church. The modern system of sending your kids to be “socialized” by strangers who you may or may not have anything in common with seems like a bad bet, doesn’t it? (BTW, I was repeatedly punished in public school for the egregious crime of “reading ahead.”) Public school is either torture or a waste of time for the kids that would most benefit by it.

Grandpa
Grandpa
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

wow. I had not thought of – remembered – being admonished for “reading ahead”. Of course, in later years, I understood it for what it was… punished for excellence

rashomoan
rashomoan
3 years ago

I enjoy referring to the leftists with names that they recognize either as the mirror image of their names for others, or by names they have used for the right: “Oh, I see you’re a Believer”, “You Accelerationists are succeeding wonderfully….” (after all, that is what they are, isn’t it?), etc. It seems that many in their lizard brains can be sent into a loop with such terms. It goes right to their emotional processing center while logic does not. If you want to change a thought pattern that was not put there by logic, you will not succeed using… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  rashomoan
3 years ago

This sounds a bit like neurolinguistic programming (NLP), if I’m reading you right.

Frip
Member
3 years ago

It’s nearly impossible to look at Michael Hayden’s head without thinking about a baseball bat and a pumpkin.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Frip
3 years ago

These present and former nomenklatura need more ex-NFL stars living in their leafy enclaves 😈

Steve
Steve
3 years ago

A great tome Z. I forwarded this one to a number of people I know who are now openly talking about the national divorce. One of those I forwarded this article to is a friend of mine I wrote about a few months ago who is a retired firefighter who now has MS and who’s two daughters have become foaming-at-the-mouth leftists. He and I have spoken about this very subject at length and he has mentioned it to the two daughters, who upon hearing this idea and their father espousing it, become even more enraged and this gets to a… Read more »

nobby
nobby
Reply to  Steve
3 years ago

“The only way I see this happening is a huge bump in the system where folks like you and I can now begin to actively take charge of our local areas, hook up with other like-minded areas and tell these leftists, “Start walking, we tried things your way and look what happened, we’re done.””

I prefer the “tell it to the back hoe operator” from WRSA

T P
T P
Reply to  Steve
3 years ago

“What makes a man like Ringo?” “The Reckoning. He wants revenge for being born.” Another poster here today said a very amusing thing: Call them what they call us. Believers or accelerationists, attacking on an emotional level. I love that idea. Another that works on the same level and I think is at the heart of the foam-at-the-mouth Lefty’s life. “You don’t believe a word of what you say. You’re just masking that fact that you’re ashamed of how irresponsible you have been.” I really think it’s true. All of the bowlshidt they spout lays attention everywhere but on their… Read more »

rkb100100
rkb100100
Member
3 years ago

The Left is parasitical in whatever host country they thrive in. That can’t survive alone. Further, if they were forced to live up to their ideologies as a segregated group they would go extinct in a short period of time. They know that, so divorcing them would be very difficult. The modern Left are simply looters preying on a morally disarmed culture, which they’ve corrupted for that purpose. Guilt and shame tactics are especially effective when your the one defining right and wrong, and in many cases, having your views backed up by the force of government. The reason for… Read more »

Mitch the Kid
Mitch the Kid
3 years ago

“Go outside and you see people wearing three masks in their car, letting you know they are in that cult.”

Saw this virtue signal the other day, woman wearing a pin indicating that she had taken the covid vaccine. It was a more permanent version of the “I Voted” sticker.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Mitch the Kid
3 years ago

There is already a depressingly enormous quantity of pro-vax items being sold on all the print-on-demand stores.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

The USA is now at 20% of population “fully” vaccinated. While I don’t survey everyone I meet, in my daily life I meet virtually all white middle class, skewd to retired age, and to date I have met one (1) who is anti-Covid-vaxx. We exchanged telephone numbers 🙂

I remain jab-skeptic, and duly tell anyone who will listen. 60 million (and growing) is a large set of subjects for a Phase IV study, but that is functionally what we have. I wish these people the best, but long term effects won’t be known for, well, for the long term 🙁

Member
3 years ago

Very good article detailing the problem but with no solution — other than the Final Solution[s] given inevitable civilizational collapse and massive depopulation. Collapse will bring about decentralization and de facto secession not through any negotiated settlement between equal parties but rather by default between the Mighty Evil Dying ZOG Empire and The Ten Thousand Warlords. Also there is and always has been “white supremacy” opposition inherent in whites which can spontaneously appeaer and sometimes even organize like a cancer in a dying body politic. This Mighty Evil ZOG Empire is correct to always be on the lookout for when… Read more »

Stephanos Xytegenios
Stephanos Xytegenios
Reply to  Pastor Lindstedt
3 years ago

What an obvious fed plant. I mean, I have seen some pretty tone-deaf plants, but you take the cake. I wonder if you are just naive in thinking we couldn’t sniff you out a mile away, or you really are an autistic sperg in thinking the DR is anything like the 1.0 folks.

Annon
Member
Reply to  Stephanos Xytegenios
3 years ago

This guy may or may not be a fed plant, but he has been a thorn in the side of the MO Libertarian Party for many years, but that’s their own fault for not controlling their own primaries – anybody can call themselves a Libertarian and be on the ballot. Maybe that’s changed in the last 20 years, but I doubt it. At any rate, you’re right to take this guy with a pound of salt.

b125
b125
Reply to  Annon
3 years ago

he did get 4 votes in the 2020 Missouri gubernatorial race . 4 more than i’ve ever gotten

i say go for it, even if theyre a little wacky id still vote for him over whatever cuck R is running lol

Reply to  b125
3 years ago

I posted a follow-up which was rejected as spam and another one which is on moderation. So thank Z-man for allowing the initial post and leaving my web page intact for those who wish to read more. In Missouri since 2006 open White Supremacists are not allowed to run on the Republican, Democrat, LibberToon or CONstipation Party (open) primaries and that is partly on account of myself running as a Republican for US Senate in 2002 and for Governor of Missouri in 2004 and causing trouble there instead as a LibberToon for Governor in 1996 and U.S. Senate in 1998.… Read more »

Pozymandias
Reply to  Annon
3 years ago

Thanks for the tip-off Annon. I’ll remember that when I run for office as a Lolbert. Unlike the pastor’s wordy diatribes here, my platform will just be the Groundskeeper Willie Plan – “If elected mayor, I promise to kill the lot of ye’ and burn your town to cinders”

Kudzu Bob
Kudzu Bob
Member
3 years ago

Who gets custody of the nukes?

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Kudzu Bob
3 years ago

they’ll sell it, just like ukraine did after the fall of communism.

Based5.0
Based5.0
Reply to  Kudzu Bob
3 years ago

I do. I called “dibs” while you were getting seconds at the buffet.

Whiskey
Whiskey
3 years ago

Z-man — there is no possibility of divorce, peaceful or otherwise. You said it yourself, the other side sees us as evil incarnate and worthy only of extermination. Indeed Whites as the embodiment of evil has been the civic religion of Civil Rights since the 1950s. And the only recourse for evil is to kill it. ALL of the military leadership is on board, as is ALL of corporate leadership and the vast majority of corporate workers (who are mostly non-White or White women). And no one hate hate hates White men like White women. So too ALL of the… Read more »

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Whiskey
3 years ago

Whiskey, if you believe all this literally then you must be a touch paranoid (in the specific psychiatric meaning). If you are just indulging in exaggeration for kicks, you are not helping. Turn the amplification down and you have a chance to help convince those who need convincing.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  Gravity Denier
3 years ago

Cattle Cars are not coming today. Nor tomorrow. But they are coming. I’ve seen/heard things I would never have believed even five years ago. One thing Trump did was accelerate the craziness. By blatantly opposing those pushing for a total solution. Bush never engendered this craziness, his fetal position did not enrage the Woke. But can you deny that the whole foundation of Civil Rights is that White men in particular, and all Whites in general, are evil racists and must be dealt with? That has been the tone since the early 1950s. After the Korean War when White men… Read more »

JohnWayne
JohnWayne
Reply to  Whiskey
3 years ago

Didn’t Abraham Lincoln already decide this matter? Secession is not an option. We fought a long bloody war when it was tried, and that was followed by a cold, at times lukewarm war and reparations and rioting and Seattle and Chicago and Philadelphia and Washington DC. We already decided this matter. Too bad the wrong side won. Once signed, the Constitution became a binding contract, no divorce, no escape and the SCOTUS will provide whatever legal arguments necessary.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  JohnWayne
3 years ago

Not only is secession an option, it’s the only option. What happened ca. 160 years ago is immaterial.

John Wayne
John Wayne
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

“What happened 160 years ago is irrelevant”.

Why study history if history is irrelavant?

There is no legalistic path to separation.

War is, of course, a illegal option, but when you weigh the forces allied against us, the prospects looks grim.

Someone here suggested relocation. That might be a better option. Russia perhaps?

ronehjr
ronehjr
Reply to  John Wayne
3 years ago

The saying is “Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it”, not ‘give up, nothing will ever work’.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  John Wayne
3 years ago

Of course the study of history is important. (I have a Ph.D. in the subject, dontchaknow.) But historical analogies are of more aesthetic and imaginative value than they are of predictive value. The Civil War occurred in America. America no longer exists, so that earlier paradigm is not particularly relevant.

Now as for the actual mode of separation, I cannot say for certain, although violence in one form or another will almost certainly be necessary. What I do know is that we either make the attempt or we perish.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
3 years ago

Other options are available, but they inevitably would result in much, much higher body counts 🙁

streamfortyseven
streamfortyseven
Reply to  JohnWayne
3 years ago

The South lost because it could not manufacture heavy weaponry aside from the Tredegar Iron Works in Savannah, Georgia. Other than that, it was an agrarian economy, growing mostly cotton and tobacco. The North was where the armaments industry was, and the agricultural economy was not the monocropping one the South had. The situation today is somewhat different – where do electricity, coal, oil, and natural gas come from? Not to mention food. You can’t eat bitcoin or high culture…

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Whiskey
3 years ago

Whiskey, the US imports ~3 million people a year via chain-migration, work visas, and plain old border-jumping. The last thing corporate America is running out of is cheap labor.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

Thats low IQ labor. Corporations want FREE high IQ labor. Central Americans still want to get paid. Uighurs and slaves don’t get paid.
Nike, Apple, Wal-Mart, Amazon, all could not exist without semi-slave labor in China. China’s demographics make that non sustainable. There is no low thing you can think of about Woke capital that they themselves won’t better.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Whiskey
3 years ago

To your point on forced labor, employers are whining about finding people because they are sitting home on stimmy:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/there-are-absolutely-no-job-seekers-how-trillions-stimulus-sparked-historic-job-market

It’s almost as if perverse incentives generate perverse outcomes.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

No kidding – who’d a thunk?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Thursday I had a first-hand experience of that. I had a late lunch (4 PM) in a Chili’s that had signs saying basically please be patient, we are short staffed. I asked the manager why, and he said because nobody wants to work, they just say home with the unemployment money. This is surprising, because FL is known as a tightwad state. While my service was not unreasonably delayed in the lightly-peopled time, my meal’s ambiance was spoiled when a three-generation female family couple was seated next to mine. The 8-10 year old daughter was the obvious product of a… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
3 years ago

Our national divorce will happen at precisely the moment when all 50 states begin arguing over the bill. And what a bill it is already. We will pay it through inflation and defaults. But the aftermath is what’s important. DC will want all the states to kick in real tax dollars to keep that town going. This will be in a future of very high interest rates and states not even being able to cover their own outlays. State constituencies will block together to horse trade, with the less powerful blocks getting fleeced. The states that get fleeced will see… Read more »

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3 years ago

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RabbiHighComma
RabbiHighComma
3 years ago

The constant fear mongering from DC and their propagandists regarding 21st C multipolar geopolitics is one reason for optimism. It is not Fukiyama’s 1991 any longer. The Judeopuritans shot their wad assisting the Jignats destroy their Middle Eastern neighbors, and in the process made many heritage Americans realize this is no longer their nation (if it ever was ours), and that the government hates them. If the tribe and their Shabbos goyim coterie were smart/patient they would be inculcating national unity until the challenges from ascendant civilizational states were resolved. But the foot is always on the gas destroying what… Read more »

sentry
sentry
Reply to  RabbiHighComma
3 years ago

“If we get off like the Russians….a decade of Jewish oligarchs leading to a Putin we can consider ourselves lucky, but the demographic damage will be done.”

USA will split same as USSR, the whiter parts will get their putin, the non-white parts will be America’s version of Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Belorussia, Azerbaijan etc.

I believe this split will take place when the american elite realizes they’re not safe from non’whites.

Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

The American elite will just repatriate to Israel at that point, right after stealing everything that is not bolted down, and leave the rest of us to sort it out

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
3 years ago

“The American elite will just repatriate to Israel at that point, right after stealing everything that is not bolted down, and leave the rest of us to sort it out”

that would be even better

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
3 years ago

Sounds like a win-win.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
3 years ago

One thing that comes to mind when reading this is the Al Smith Dinner. That post presidential election dinner in NY where a corrupt to the core New Deal politician is celebrated by both sides, with a dinner put on by the Catholic Cardinal of NY. Both sides cracking jokes, glad handing with each other, wearing 1930’s era monkey suits. That dinner is more than a dinner. It’s the left saying, we’ve controlled this whole lace lock stock and barrel since 1933. You exist in our domain. We allow you to be here. So you see every Republican that wins… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

So it’s just like the St. Pat’s day breakfast in MA?

Vizzini
Member
3 years ago

Amen. That’s the bottom line.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
3 years ago

“The people living in whites-only neighborhoods chanting about antiracism are beyond reason. The people demanding the state torture citizens who question official policy can never be trusted. ” They think the same thing about us. Unfortunately, a divorce is going to be extremely messy even if it can be done at all. It’s not like we all live on different sides of the country. We would be left with pretty much no cities. In order for something like a “divorce” we would need something akin to what happened in India in the creation of PAKISTAN with a hundred million (or… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Although our current divide could be described as somewhat sectarian, it’s not nearly as cut and dry, and obvious, as the Indian partition. It might be less bloody because of that, but I’m not counting out the bloodlust engendered by the absolute hatred for whites held by the woke left.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

It’s not going to be divorce it’s going to be murder suicide

Guest
Guest
3 years ago

I’ve been mulling this comment over for a while, and this post is probably the appropriate place to leave it. I think it’s time for writers on the dissident right (that’s you, Zman) to start writing posts that are more directly targeted toward members of the military, and even law enforcement. Nothing can stop the coming divorce and the violence that will inevitably accompany the process. The goal now should be to find a path toward a separation and dissolution that is as peaceful as possible. The recent purges in the military demonstrate that the military brass is fully on… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Guest
3 years ago

This is conservative fantasy, especially as it pertains to police. But it is probably true of the military.
The police and military are not big in promoting and retaining independent thinkers or people who question their orders. They will do what they are told to do and they will do it with enthusiasm.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Your portrayal of soldiers as enthisiastic order-takers is just as lop-sided as one that regards them as reflexive patriots. I’ve known an awful lot of enlisted solders/airmen/sailors and NCOs. There’s a lot of variance. Some are quite leftist — they’re just in for their four years and college money. Others are rock-solid on the right. There’s some who are order-takers, because they’re just not that bright. They’d be order-takers in any line of work. But You get up into the E-7 range and above and they’re generally too smart to not recognize bullshit, and they’re the ones — SFC, 1SG,… Read more »

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

What percentage of these kids do you reckon will turn on their leaders? I’m thinking few to none. Soldiers follow orders. That’s what they do. Even in Vietnam, where soldiers had a lot of support in the civilian population to be pacifists, the vast majority did what they were told. Not to mention having the uniform kind of makes them the enemy anyway. Even if they don’t want to fight, if they cannot get away, what are they going to do? Allow themselves to be shot at because ideologically agree with their “opponents?” Sabotage? To what degree do you think… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Shooting some NVA gooks even though you’d rather not is a lot different than opening fire on your own people. Sure, I expect people taking fire will act to preserve their lives and that means falling in line with their fellow soldiers in the moment, but soldiers spend the vast, vast, vast majority of their time not under fire. And in that time, they’re going to be thinking about the fact that the people they’re expected to point guns at in Louisville (or wherever) look an awful lot like their buddies back home in Arkansas. They’re going to be thinking… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Addendum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_National_Army#Training_and_current_challenges According to a 2009 news report, the Afghan National Army was plagued by inefficiency and corruption.[89] U.S. training efforts have been drastically slowed by the corruption, widespread illiteracy, vanishing supplies, and lack of discipline. Another significant problem for the Afghan National Army is a high level of drug abuse amongst its soldiers. It was reported in 2009 that in one new, untried, unit in Baghlan Province, some soldiers have been found cowering in ditches rather than fighting.[92] Some were suspected of collaborating with the Taliban against NATO or engaging in reciprocal exchanges on offensives or unsanctioned psychological warfare… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Oh, how did I miss this tidbit from the preceding quotes? As of mid-2012, a steadily increasing concern over the past couple of years, while still not reflective of the readiness and state of Afghan forces and police as a whole, are the deaths of U.S. and coalition forces at the hands of Afghan forces. These individuals are either Taliban or other militant infiltrators, disaffected or disturbed soldiers, turncoats, or who were disturbed by perceived and/or actual improper conduct by coalition forces. It has worsened enough to the point where two decrees were issued by the Defense Department in the… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

On the one hand, you portray soldiers as unthinking automatons. On the other, you say they will kill enthusiastically. You can’t have it both ways. Enthusiasm necessitates emotional or intellectual investment, and robots are neither emotional nor intellectual.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

That is true save for Special Forces. Which have grown rapidly as the way to fight wars that don’t end up on the nightly news. As one former SEAL (with a bunch of books, naturally) put it, the SEALs encourage independent thinking and action. And then are surprised when the mavericks they create have extreme risk taking in their personal lives. Mark Bowden’s BlackHawk Down has a pretty good description between the tension of regular Army Airborne Rangers and the Delta Force guys in Mogadishu. The commander of the Rangers was appalled at the independence and lack of deference that… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Guest
3 years ago

The key will not be a split among active military, but that is desirable. The key to effective militant resistance lies in our “army” of recent vet’s from the sandbox wars—each one effectively leading and training dissident civilians. Those numbers could outnumber our current standing military and police forces 10 to 1.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

That is why I believe that should the near-impossible happen and we see open conflict between the citizens and the state, the primary weapons of the state will not be the military, but rather the police and the media. Whatever leadership the right has will be arrested early on and frogmarched into prison in front of everyone. The press will obviously play their part and portray these men as evil for evil’s sake. The police have enormous resources at their disposal and decades of experience and data collection that has been going on (and saved) for a long time. As… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
3 years ago

Police are only effective against a population that regards their authority as legitimate.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

There is truth to that and it is certainly a wildcard. However, for it to come into play, the resistance would have to be fairly large. The loss of moral/legal authority (“voluntary compliance”) of the police is not going to happen at 20% of people siding with the rebels and a good portion of that 20% will be sympathetic in secret and not openly and that 20% is pretty optimistic. Is there anyone who believes the GOP will not disavow? In order for the “patriots” to say “it’s on,” there has to be someone, or at most a very few… Read more »

No Poc
No Poc
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

This is so important. People
-like me-are willing and able, but I wouldn’t have a clue without following someone with training and experience that I trust and that can train and lead.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Guest
3 years ago

I’ve voiced the same concerns before, in slightly different wording. I’m not sure if I’d agree with what you call a “purge” now. I’ll admit I haven’t followed that news, but forcing unwanted brass or execs out and installing your own is standard political procedure in a late-stage empire such as ours. But if and when it becomes a purge on a Stalin scale, important players disappearing or being shot, and/or you start getting mutinies in the ranks, then we’ll have arrived at a very dangerous juncture. You can envision any scenario you like, but I think what I’ve outlined… Read more »

370H55V
370H55V
3 years ago

No compromise is possible when cunt are in charge. For example, the movement in Congress by rich blue state Dems to repeal the limitation of SALT deductions. One would think there might be room for agreement to raise the limit from $10K to $20K, but with cunt in charge, it’s all or nothing.

Men have to take back the country by any means necessary.

thekrustykurmudgeon
thekrustykurmudgeon
3 years ago

I see myself supporting the left because I think the idea of “minority rule” is bad. But if that problem were to go away, I would probably oppose the left. Go to these accounts on twitter and search the phrase “minority rule”. It’s an actual thing.

@RonBrownstein
@ezralevin
@lemieuxlgm
@mondairejones
@eliemystal
@MJS_DC
@KevinMKruse
@jbouie
@imillhiser
@DavidOAtkins
@brianefallon

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  thekrustykurmudgeon
3 years ago

Twitter is where brains go to die.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
3 years ago

Hard to imagine a peaceful separation if they really want us dead just sayin’. Like divorcing a vindictive woman.

I think everybody knows this and many haven’t gutted up to it, hence the compromises, the fantasies of moving to Conservativeland, the time buying, the slow surrender. At some point nature will take its course.

G Gordon Liddy
G Gordon Liddy
3 years ago

Neither side will take the blacks and a certain middle eastern tribe will immediately seek to undermine both the breakaway and the remaining coalition. We need a divorce but how in the heck to we even divide up? There is no mason dixon line in 2021. I suppose some ramblings of discontent in what remains of middle America could be a seed fior something new? But anyway we look at it it’s gonna be a hard and long road out of this mess. I think about it quite a bit and I would like to think more positively about the… Read more »

An Anon On the Run
An Anon On the Run
Reply to  G Gordon Liddy
3 years ago

The important thing is that we first normalize the discussion. We can work out the details later, just like the couple that decides to divorce first and then decides who gets the kids after or the addict who first has to admit he has a problem before he can address it. It won’t be easy, but anything is better than this madness. It has to stop. Realizing that is the first step to happiness.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  An Anon On the Run
3 years ago

The rhetorical prelude to broaching the topic of divorce is acknowledging the chief pathology in AINO: anti-white racism. Once the Grillers become accustomed to discussing this topic and seeing whites as victims of racism, they will then be open to the divorce. Then it’s on.

Incidentally, high-ranking figures in Putin’s administration are already publicly talking about he problem of AWR. And that’s perhaps what it will take–a rhetorical deus ex machina.

streamfortyseven
streamfortyseven
Reply to  G Gordon Liddy
3 years ago

“the blacks” … Most of “the blacks” have a lot more conservative values than you think, they’re not OK with transgender or “woke” types, they’re not big on leftists, and they do *not* like white liberals, especially white liberal women. I lived in the ‘hood for a year – cheap rent, nice apartment (the braumeister’s apartment at the old Felsenbrau Brewery in Cincinnati). They were not racist, and as long as you demonstrated that you were worthy of respect, you wouldn’t get bothered with. Everyone above the age of 13 carried a gun, they knew the Second Amendment and the… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  streamfortyseven
3 years ago

I hope there’s some truth to your narrative. What decade was this you lived there? The underclass (all races) has increased since the 1960s. Two young teen girls armed robbing and inadvertantly killing a taxi driver in DC, or two adult females attacking a postal delivery woman because they want they checks NOW, or a retired pro footballer going berzerk and murdering a neighbor’s family, are probably more representative of dysfunctional Black “culture.” They’re not like us, they never were, they never will be. Of course, some Blacks are good, in the same sense that some Whites are evil. You… Read more »

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  streamfortyseven
3 years ago

And yet you moved out after a “year in the hood”. Why pray tell would one do that? If you think BooBoo and June Bug are similar to whites, you embarrass yourself and insult the rest of us.

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  streamfortyseven
3 years ago

Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

B125
B125
3 years ago

Here’s my thoughts on “divorce”: It’s not possible. First of all, hard secession will never happen. Look at Russia, look at Syria, look at Iraq, look at the Confederate States. Puritan Yankee Jew Globohomo will NEVER allow you to leave the sphere of influence. They will destroy themselves and you. Saw some other comments about moving to a red state. Or breaking up from their blue state into a red state. This is re-arranging deck chairs on the titanic. ALL red states will turn blue over time with biden’s extreme mass immigration. It’s only a matter of time. Nebraska and… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

What’s the endgame in doing that? How long would that preserve what’s left of the dissident mindset? A generation, maybe two? Establishing something more concrete is necessary if you think your culture and ideology are worthy of anything more than being a curiosity like the Amish.

And don’t think they’re not going to get it in the end, either. They’ll just be part of the mopping up phase. I saw it last year when the Amish around me had outbreaks of Covid after weddings and the like. The local Karens were apoplectic that they dared deviate from the panic.

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

This is my hope for a peaceful solution. That we commit to setting up parallel institutions, joining local communities, strengthening our faith in God, eating healthy/staying fit so we can avoid the modern “medical” system, and increasing white fertility to the max along with 100% homeschooling. If we can outbreed the enemy and keep our kids from being brainwashed, we may be able to peacefully outlast our enemies and have a country again within a couple of generations.

Jack Stringer
Jack Stringer
Reply to  Mr. Generic
3 years ago

I take comfort in seeing how the good Russians survived seventy years of terror. In 1917 there 55,000 Russian Orthodox Churches. By 1985 that number had declined to fewer than 8,000. The hierarchy was replaced by docile clergy with ties to the KGB.

Now Soviet Communism is a bad memory and a new church is opening everyday in Russia.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

*looks at Russia*

You mean the one that ran the USSR, which split into a whole bunch of independent states after the fall of its empire? That Russia?

An Anon On the Run
An Anon On the Run
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

“Have large families and homeschool them.” You’re not winning a breeding contest with third-worlders. The ultimate trajectory of this country on its current course is being another Venezuela or Brazil, at best … or maybe even South Africa once the dems start importing Africans, which they certainly will (already floating the idea). Is that the country you want to live in? “homeschool them” 1. Too expensive for most people. 2. The government could easily outlaw it, as some countries like Germany already do 3. Many families don’t have the time or education. “Goodwhite fertility is about half of badwhites’ and… Read more »

B125
B125
Reply to  An Anon On the Run
3 years ago

That was alot of words to mindlessly tear down my comment.

I’m happy to hear your proposed solutions for a better future.

If not, I’m not interested.

Frip
Member
Reply to  An Anon On the Run
3 years ago

“You’re not winning a breeding contest with third-worlders.” Funny. True.

B125
B125
Reply to  Frip
3 years ago

maintaining a healthy age balance in your demographic has nothing to do with “outbreeding third worlders”

right now white people have an aging population and an inverse population pyramid. white fertility needs to get to 2 or else we will continue to lose ground in terms of absolute numbers.

WJ0216
WJ0216
Reply to  An Anon On the Run
3 years ago

The importation of huge numbers of sub Saharan Africans is what keeps me awake at nights. Mexicans and Central Americans are terrible of course but nothing compares to importation of an unlimited number of Nigerians or Cameroonians …

Phoenix
Phoenix
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

The current system has failed.

It’s quite telling how many people agree with you that trying some half-assed, doomed-to-fail measures within the current failed system is going to work..

Not that some of that isn’t a good idea, it’s just not a viable long-term strategy.

Gagdad Bob
3 years ago

Progressive beliefs gallop through history leaving a trail of torched civilizations.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Gagdad Bob
3 years ago

There’s no getting away from the evils of the Enlightenment. I see it on the comments here pointing out that urban areas are nothing but pozed madness. Yes, I agree, but then if we separate and set up our own megacity it will fall to the same ills. Without an intellectual movement to counter the poison we’ll just end up right back at the same spot. (And no, don’t ask, like much else in my life I can see that something is broken even though I lack the skills and knowledge to be able to fix it, and a 15… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

Enlightenment thinkers did much harm. However, we now live in a counter-Enlightenment, which, in the hands of the Left, looks to be much worse. The attacks on reason and Christianity are nothing less than attacks on white civilization itself.

TomA
TomA
3 years ago

Yes to all of this. But history teaches a hard lesson that we should not ignore. The last time secession was tried, 600,000 good men died from both sides and several times that number were grievously wounded. The people pulling the strings would like nothing better than to instigate a repeat of that mass slaughter of alpha males by pitting the plebs against each other once again (in this case patriotic militias versus LEOs/NG units). And that is how tyranny wins. And that devastation will have been instigated & executed by a very, very, very small fraction of our society.… Read more »

roo_ster
Member
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

The ructions of the 1860s involved industrialized armies of two geographically discrete polities in clausewitzian trinitarian warfare. Future unpleasantness on CONUS will be much more like the breakup of Yugoslavia: Fourth or Fifth Gen warfare. NG and LEOs who side with globohomo live in and among the rest of us. They and theirs are vulnerable to the enemy in ways RandomUnionSoldier from Michigan during the 1860s war was not. Unless they (literally) fort up in indian country, they and theirs will be targets. We’ve seen how LEOs react when they become the prey instead of the predator or serious danger… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  roo_ster
3 years ago

I’m very glad to see that I’m not the only one cogitating on the problem of the rise of a hard tyranny here in the USA. We have been conditioned to believe that it cannot happen here due to our history and freedom-loving spirit, but the incipient tyrants among us couldn’t care less about such things, and will do as they please, no matter who gets hurt in the process. During peacetime, our military leadership spends countless hours developing contingency plans for all manner of potential conflict scenarios. There is no reason that “citizen soldiers” should not engage in similar… Read more »

An Anon On the Run
An Anon On the Run
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

You have presupposed there will be a “mass slaughter” yet there is no indication that will be the case. Blue states are in no shape to wage large scale conflicts against other entities the size of entire European countries for a sustained period of time. Alabama is a large as England. Add in Florida, Georgia and a few others and you’ve got an area far too large to hold. How are Blue states supposed to summon a 5 million man army, because that’s what it would take, to physically occupy a land area as large as Western Europe indefinitely? Could… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  An Anon On the Run
3 years ago

“I haven’t heard one.”

And the reason is that anyone openly promoting an explicit description of one would likely get an immediate visit from the Stasi and an unplanned vacation in Leavenworth. Stupid is not a strategy for success.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  An Anon On the Run
3 years ago

There is sometimes a way to get out our message — or a version of it tailored to a certain auidence. I sometimes visit a web site discussing car audio. Another poster shared how he had been suspended for a month (!) by FecesBook for a very triviial comment, I think, calling another person wrong on some technical detail. I replied with a paragraph about how the social media controls the narrative, is all but immune to government regulation, can essentially censor with impunity yet claim to be a “public forum,” etc. I personalized it by saying I’d quit social… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Yes. And then secede.

usNthem
usNthem
3 years ago

The idea of a peaceful separation is nice, but I don’t think there’s a chance – I’m not even sure about violent separation, although more violence of one sort or the other is probably coming. Too many people either don’t see what’s going on or willfully ignore it. Life is still too easy and relatively normal for most to even consider the ugly reality of what must be done to avoid the iceberg. Barring a catastrophic existential event (or the left and jmedia really overplaying their hand) that absolutely forces half the country to face and act against what’s happening… Read more »

Deana
Deana
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

usNthem – I believe you hit on something important. I believe most people in the US are aware that there is trouble in the horizon. Some may view it as standard fare trouble. I view it a civilization changing. I lay awake at night knowing in my gut that we are headed for dark times. The problem: everything LOOKS so normal. Our buildings are still standing. People are working. The vast majority of people are going through the motions like they always have. They just have that nagging feeling. They see the news and it is like listening to thunder… Read more »

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
3 years ago

The time to move on was in the 1840s. I doubt the other side will agree to a peaceful divorce. It’s likely to require something a bit more “persuasive”. What that “something” is remains to be seen.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
3 years ago

“Go outside and you see people wearing three masks in their car, letting you know they are in that cult.”

Not so for today. On my way to work, someone had printed, in large letters about a foot in height and in the middle of the highway “COVID SCAM”.

Chortle.

Cameron
Cameron
3 years ago

“it does not change the fact that close to half the country wants to murder you.”

why i’ve stashed away a 5.56 for each of my sons.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

And the NSA will be pleased to hear that.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
3 years ago

The biggest obstacle right now to creating alternative institutions, and getting a de facto separation on board, is the stranglehold of our financial institutions. Just remember that pornographers have no problem getting a bank account, but Gab has been removed from basically every financial service. The State has 15k per child to indoctrinate our children, while price inflation forces both parents to work. Peaceful separation won’t happen until balkanization accelerates, which we can help along through taking part in the same spoils system everyone else is. – Younger or have kids? smash that Hispanic race or non-binary sexual orientation checkbox… Read more »

Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Another “sand in the gears” play to run would be making yourself a bunch of COVID “vaccine” appointments and not show up for them. Or if you have time, show up and go through the process, and then leave just before they attempt to stick you.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
3 years ago

**rubs hands together enthusiastically**

Boy! This sounds like fun!

hKisn
hKisn
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

This reminds me of the “discreetly throw wrenches into the system’s gears” post on this blog following the fake election.

It doesn’t happen because the system’s targets aren’t aware and smart enough to realize it’s needed. And there’s no information channel which can educate them with the chance to reach enough of them. Plus, it can’t be helped that they’ll keep trusting the choir of the major media and social media — whatever these tell them (including “Run off a cliff, it’s only for your good”).

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  hKisn
3 years ago

The Saxon has not yet begun to hate. That will only change is we convince enough people they are prisoners, and not citizens.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

There are significant opportunities in Alt-tech and Alt-finance.

My problem is figuring out a good entry point for those opps.

An Anon On the Run
An Anon On the Run
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

There aren’t any. They’ll just ban them like they did Parler (and countless others) or call anyone who signs up a racist and doxx them, which is what totally non-government allied hackers have done to Gab. It’s funny how the people who oppose separation because “they wont’ let you do it” think the same people will also let them oppose their power base by forming separate institutions outside their control. You want your own institutions? Get your own country.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Have to travel with a woke airline?

Flying commercial is going to be taking your life in your hands within in a decade. United has committed to a 50% diversity quote for pilots. “Hey, y’all. I’m Shaniqua. I’ll bees you pilot today and I is so excited cause dis be my first flight! Sheet. Where dat throttle? NO DON’ TELL ME WHAT TO DO! I BE A STRONG BLACK WOMAN! DON’ DISRESPEC ME! WHAT DO YOU MEAN DA MIC BE ON? SHEE-*click*”

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

You said it Vizzini. Just look at what grounded the 737 fleet—third world mediocre pilots crashing planes. They’d not even have been able to be licensed had not Boeing created an automated plane with basically push button controls for take off and landing. You can be sure that if United is serious, in a decade or so you will have AA pilots with little to no knowledge or advanced ability other than “pushing” buttons.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

“Don’t worry scrote! There are plenty of ‘tards out there living really kick ass lives. My first wife was ‘tarded. She’s a pilot now.” — Idiocracy

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

We were flying in Spain a few years ago when the female pilot made an announcement for something or other. I have to say, I was fairly shocked. I think it had to be a first for me in several decades of flying. Man, the last thing you want to see on the flight deck as you enter the plane is a couple of joggers or joggerettes… It’d be hard not to just turn around and walk out. Of course, dat would be seen as rayciss!!

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Compsci
3 years ago

As I said a month ago on UNZ ” In the before times – mid 70’s I guess, I was on a genuine African airline plane in a genuine African country (Gambia?Senegal? I’ve passed a lot of Single Malt under the bridge since then), when the Captain, last one to board after all the passengers were seated, boarded at the rear and strolled down the aisle looking like a deranged satirists vision of Idi Amin. The sheer weight of the gold braid was impressive. I was collecting my shit prior to deplaning when my experienced seatmate told me not to… Read more »

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

If when boarding you glance into the cockpit and notice a Haitian captain and first officer along with cages … you’re looking at a real cockpit. Ignore screeching noises during the trip. They are part of the inflight entertainment system.

sentry
sentry
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

“– Younger or have kids? smash that Hispanic race or non-binary sexual orientation checkbox on job and college applications.”

if your hair is curly you hit the jackpot, you can get to be a jogger.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

If you are a southern Italian, the same works for you hitting the Hispanic button. Hell, some of the surnames sound quite Hispanic as well. This actually occurred with a student I knew as a young grad. He was dejected by repeated rejection to pharmacy schools. He discussed with me while filling out his “upteenth” application. In those days a picture was required and he asked me if the picture was perhaps bad and if he should consider another. Long story short, I told him he “looked like a spic” and to check the “Hispanic” race box and send the… Read more »

Whitney
Member
3 years ago

“There is no escaping politics today, which means there is no escaping the Left” Yes there is. You do have to get rid of the TV, no modern movies, dont listen to the radio. it seems hard but you get used to it. I kind of have a curated world, I still know what’s going on for the most part and know that things are very very bad but I have a kind of equanimity that a lot of people don’t because it’s not always with me. It was funny when the Suez Canal got blocked I was wondering if… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

And it’s important to note that once you stop rubbing feces into your eyes & ears on a daily basis, miraculously your body & mind will begin to heal. You will grow stronger, both mentally & physically; plus you will be able to see & hear reality more clearly than at any other time in your life. And all of this is a vital resource that will be needed to survive in the coming dark days.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

I had a funny interaction with the neighbor right before the election. We were both without walking she walked by and I said hey how’s it going, and she said oh you know just really stressed and I said oh no why? Because as far as I was concerned everything is fine, it was a beautiful day out walking no problems but of course she saw the world and it was all too much for her. She looked at me like I was a crazy person but really who’s the crazy person here

We Hate Everyone
We Hate Everyone
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

True enough, but like Zman mentioned in the article, it’s all pollyanna being unplugged until you get slapped in the face seeing mom and her three youngins all masked up taking a drive. I’m still dumbfounded and pissed seeing their success with the mask psyop.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  We Hate Everyone
3 years ago

I was just over at someone’s house and her 30 year old son was in town and I spouted general niceties and he told me he was in town to get the vaccine so he’d be here for like 3 or 4 weeks until he can get the second dose. I really did not know what to say beyond well congratulations. I’m sure my lack of enthusiasm was palatable

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

It really is both infuriating and discouraging that so many have bought into this scam, hook, line and sinker. I’ve said this before, but literally everyone I know has or is going to get the jab – and they’re so happy about it. I’m truly beginning to wonder if I’m not the crazy one…

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

They say a stripper is a woman who just can’t pull the trigger on being a prostitute, and it makes me think that these covid vax braggers are people who just can’t pull the trigger on being homosexual. The overbearing tyrants are allowing them to have an identity couched in a glorified medical scam and they’re jumping at the chance.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

Self-euthanasia?

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

I really did not know what to say

“Lord, you’re a dumb fuck.”

No? Darn my people skills.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

I work with a woman who got the shot. Lately she’s spending time with the doctor trying to figure out why she feels run down and her hair suddenly started falling out in clumps. I don’t know why that’s happening, but it’s hard keeping my mouth shut. I figure it’s something I’ll have to get used to doing.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  We Hate Everyone
3 years ago

I just had a conversation with a client who asked me if I’d gotten my shots. I cannot believe this. I’ve got to try to not talk to people. I told her that I was waiting for FDA approval. That threw her a little bit she didn’t realize they weren’t FDA-approved but she ended it with well when you’re comfortable and I said when it’s FDA approved. I’m going to lose clients

Anon On the Run
Anon On the Run
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

“Yes there is. You do have to get rid of the TV, no modern movies, dont listen to the radio.” Totally impractical suggestion for 99% of the population. Won’t happen and your kids certainly won’t obey. They’ll watch the tv, go to the movies with their progressive friends, crack open the smartphone to get the latest Twitter trend, go to school for a good brainwashing, and come back from it hating you. They might even turn you into the police for wrong think one day. What’s better: living as a pre-modern hermit without pozz or living in a modern society… Read more »

sentry
sentry
3 years ago

“If there is to be a solution to the current crisis it will come when enough white people give up on this relationship with the Left. The only peaceful solution is peaceful separation.”. the globo-leftist machine can’t let go of russia, they want it back where they think it belongs. Globalism is expansionist, same as communism, same as islam, no way they’ll permit white american nationalists to separate and go their own merry way. J*uws know one thing, which is that white nationalism broke their communist empire. They blame white nationalists for the communist failure, for replacing the j*uws in… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

Russia has to be destroyed because they are pro-Christian, not anti-white, and anti-deviant.

The GlobHom fundamentalists cannot permit this.

Stephanos Xytegenios
Stephanos Xytegenios
Reply to  sentry
3 years ago

An example of a one-note explaining everything. The Russians are not white nationalists. They are Russian nationalists, which is a big difference. The Russians could care less about the whites, after all, what has ever the whites done for them. I suspect that the average Russian knows that white is a stand in for a distinctly anglophone and American-centric viewpoint, the culture of which has been at war with Russia for at least two centuries.

B125
B125
Reply to  Stephanos Xytegenios
3 years ago

Agreed, the Russia worship is just more copes from WN who expect a savior to come. Trump, Hortler, Putin, based hispanics, anti-black Asians, African immigrants… it’s always some other person or group who is going to come and save the day for the beleaguered Anglo-American Protestants, and white America in general.

“White America” has been at war with Russia for decades. England long before that.

I don’t think Putin wants to see white American Christian civ. destroyed. But it’s also not his problem.

Joey Jünger
Joey Jünger
3 years ago

I didn’t think Trump was entirely useless, but as he was only delaying the inevitable, I’ll admit to feeling a bit of relief when the smoke cleared and Biden was installed. Now we can deal with the meta-political reality of white people being hated internal enemies of the global order that is trying to collapse and reset America, rather than wasting our time reading tweets about how ten more miles of fence went up today and we can therefore go back to sleep. This thing is going to collapse sooner rather than later, and it’s better if Biden (or even… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

Trump’s only real achievements will be forcing the Deep State lunatics to reveal themselves and delaying the GlobHom playbook by four years.

The stuff currently ramping in Syria and Ukraine are exactly what Killary was going to do, had she won in 2016.

Corinthian Leatherface
Corinthian Leatherface
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

In many ways, he accelerated the inevitable, albeit not deliberately in my view.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Joey Jünger
3 years ago

That recalls the old saying “The lunatics have taken over the asylum.” Curiously, this was an 80s pop hit by some English band , disparaging the Reagan era arms build-up. My, how times can change in 40 years!

KGB
KGB
3 years ago

I just left a comment behind the green door to this effect, but the conversation you described with the two boomers who have suddenly begun questioning what’s going on with our culture, with the tranny blitzkrieg, and with who’s behind all this gives me hope that our side may be able to count on more people than we assume. For those that didn’t hear it, Z-man was audience to a conversation between two boomer civ-nats concerning the corporate love of mentally ill men in sundresses. The heartening bit is that one of them was very well informed about the actual… Read more »

Whitney
Member
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Yeah I saw that too. My pre Boomer mother actually looked at me the other day and said I am sick of black people. It was funny and revealing but at the same time too little too late. Same with these Boomers they’re on their way out have you talked to any young adults lately. They are all completely brainwashed. Knocking them over the head may end it but that knock will probably crush their skulls so no help there.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

With the current trajectory, the “silent majority” is going to be “the silent 30%” within twenty years. There’s simply nothing in the way of woke dominance for the near future. Pedophilia is going to begin it’s normalization process, cities will be violent husks, and small towns will continue to get diversity forced on them, good and hard. We’ll end up with a left-wing strongman who will at least be able to keep a semblance of order and manage the decline of the nation to Brazil status. Then you’ll hear whites openly stating they would welcome the Chinese as liberators. The… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

The way things are trending, it wouldn’t surprise me if the Marxists invited the PLA into the US under the guise of UN peacekeepers, followed by dissident partisans inviting support from Spetznaz airborne troops.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Don’t despair. A key mistake a lot of prognosticators make is to assume that trends continue uninterrupted, when one of the few things we know with confidence looking at history is that history is packed full of interrupted trends.

The future is filled with possibilities, not all of them bad for our people.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

Slowly then all at once. I see things accelerating so quickly the changes don’t have time to establish before there’s a reaction or collapse.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

Thucydides’ imponderables

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

I get a lot of clothing catalogs because I hate shopping in stores (even before the Coof) and lately Every.Single.One features a black on the cover (and throughout) with a huge afro. Like the Bozo hair is part of the ‘in your faceness’ of it all. The worst part is 2 of the catalogs have the words “Celtic” and “London” in them. I’ve decided I’m going to hunt down a dressmakers model, find someone to refurbish my old Singer, and start making my own clothes. We can only do what we can do as individuals until, and if, we get… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Peabody
3 years ago

The worst are the big name outdoor clothing makers and all their photos of models that look nothing like the people one sees in the great outdoors.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

Whitney: Since my boys went to Christian school (and then the older was in public high school for JROTC and the younger was homeschooled) I really don’t have a good feel for younger people overall. My older son has numerous friends/acquaintances in real life and online around the world, and many of them are younger than him and they’re all massively redpilled/dissident right. Yet my local friend tells me of all the young women she has as clients/customers and how utterly brainwashed they are. I think there is definitely a sexual divide, although what percentage of guys aged 15-30 are… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

Worst thing to happen to young people is parents not forcing them out of the nest. Real life wises people up quickly. Why did anyone think arresting development was a good idea?

‘I don’t have confidence in my kids.’ Ok, why? Didn’t you (hypothetical parent) prepare them for life?

Maybe they fail, maybe they succeed, but society is being smothered as it is, so what’s there to lose?

David Wright
Member
3 years ago

Yeah I would go higher than 20% of the country being left. Of course what percent are absolute quislings? The the NPCs, brain dead and IQ compromised.

Anybody notice what the conversation is around the virtual water cooler or limited family gatherings? Did you get your shot? What kind? Did you get your shot? Didya? Secession with these fearful idiots?

KGB
KGB
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Now you’ve blackpilled me a bit. You’re correct, though. The number of conversations I’ve heard recently that were entirely centered around getting the Jevv jab is astounding. A high proportion of them involved women.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  KGB
3 years ago

Oh, there are plenty of 40 and 50-something guys who should know better clucking and cucking about their jabs.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

My mid-50s supervisor got the shot last week and he was very careful to keep quiet about it to me and the guy I share an office with. Both of us just turned 50 and have been vocal about not getting it. He knew it was best to keep shtum about it.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
3 years ago

Okay. Visitation with the kids is easy and she can take the dog and the house. We’ll take the cabin and the bass boat.

So who gets the National Debt?

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Captain Willard
3 years ago

The old currency and debt in it should simply be abandoned. It’s time for a fresh start. A new currency and financial system should have full open accountability for how money is created and how it gets injected into the real economy. The evil people who control the manufacture of currency have literally been printing trillions of dollars of fiat currency then using it to buy up everyone of real value. They have wrecked our country and should be stripped of citizenship and property then expelled out of Western Civilization. Regular folks get old currency converted to new. There is… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Horace
3 years ago

Oh, the controllers agree about abandoning the old currency.

Problem is, they seem to want to hold WW3 first.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Horace
3 years ago

They have wrecked our country and should be stripped of citizenship and property then expelled out of Western Civilization.

I oppose mushy, bleeding heart half measures like that.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Captain Willard
3 years ago

She already has the dog and the house and the cabin. Don’t worry. You get to see the kids every third weekend, assuming your “maintenance” and “child support” cheques clear. The boat is in storage. The rent for that being almost as much as your efficiency studio in the mexican neighborhood. You had to sell the silverado anyhow so you can’t even tow it. The kids were okay with your new situation at first. Good tacos and the foldout couch was fun for building forts. But that was before. Now they complain because you don’t have wifi and their tiktok… Read more »

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

Uncle Screwtape, you are really messing with my zen.
Calm blue ocean, calm blue ocean…

We Hate Everyone
We Hate Everyone
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

This is some of the blackest pilled shit I’ve read in a long time, sure hope it wasn’t inspired by any personal experiences.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  We Hate Everyone
3 years ago

The blacker pill is realizing how many of our guys think taking the red pill means doubling down on how we got here. Im all about divorcing the left. But the idea that divorce means keeping the toys and running out the clock by the lake while the world deservedly burns is the kind of thinking that fails to accept both the reality of how we got here and that the real costs of divorce that were set the day we submitted to those unholy vows remains to be paid. Truly separating from them requires a level of discomfort and… Read more »

RabbiHighComma
RabbiHighComma
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

Z should take you on as a co-blogger. Excellent stuff.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

You are spot on. The ruling class would rather kill us all rather than let us divorce.

We are in for a fight, and the refusal to acknowledge that is a major weakness of the DR. One cannot sit back in the Lay-Z-Boy and stuffing designer pot brownies in the old pie hole and expect to be hand some WhiteTopia.

What ever we achieve will be paid for in blood.
Anyone tells you different is lying out their ass.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

Great stuff brother!

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

Well I don’t know about anyone else but I sure feel like throwing up now.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

Screwtape: Brilliantly bittersweet. Kudos. Will share privately with likeminded friends.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

Jesus Screw, I think I’m gonna go off myself now.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago
Corinthian Leatherface
Corinthian Leatherface
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

Man, that’s a giant Blackpill. My Magnum will leave a heck of a mark on the Corinthian leather.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Captain Willard
3 years ago

One thing that has to change is the “She gets the House attitude”.

Piss all the money away on lawyers first.

Carl B.
Carl B.
3 years ago

Yesterday afternoon a prominent Rock Hill, SC physician, his wife, their two young grandchildren, and their lawn care man were shot and killed during a home invasion. Another man was seriously wounded. The perp was arrested at 1 AM. He was described as a young black male wearing a hoodie and camouflage pants.
This story will be ignored by Corporate national Media for obvious reasons. Too bad because it is only atrocities like this that have the slightest chance of waking comfortably numb Good Whites up to reality.

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

Update:
The perp committed suicide. He was a thick-lipped black with wide set eyes. A former Negro Felon League player. But President Potato wants MY guns.

Cameron
Cameron
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

Yep – Seattle Seahawks cornerback – the most congoid of all football positions.

Corinthian Leatherface
Corinthian Leatherface
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

When I told this story to my liberal neighbor, omitting race, at the mention of former NFL cornerback, his retort: oh like a Jason Sehorn type?

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

According to the Web, he made about $5 million during his sports career. So, probably socioeconomic factors like lack of opportunity and poverty made him do it.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Hun
3 years ago

The problem was he used some of that $5 million to buy his parents a house in the doctor’s neighborhood. That’s why he was there and able to kill them. There are NO ‘good ones.’ Even one in your neighborhood is one too many, because they all have friends and relatives and friends of relatives. Diversity is deadly.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

Concealed carry is an important survival skill in this Brave New World that Progressives have created. And a gun rack above the front door with a 12 gauge is also ancient wisdom, but don’t chamber the first round. Sometimes just the sound of racking the slide will solve the problem. And at the very least, keep a Louisville slugger close at hand. It’s getting real out there. Don’t wait until it’s too late to be prepared.

Cameron
Cameron
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Agree with your choice of weapon sir. I’d use #4 buckshot, 21 pellets per shell – heavy enough at that range. I would not keep it anywhere near the front door. The typical violent home invasion scenario – you want your gun in a room you can retreat to in order to grab it – not near the point of entry -which will be compromised. I’d chamber one – you can still rack it and eject the shell if your strategy is to scare them with the “click-click”. My opinion is you just shoot the bastard – in a panic… Read more »

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

Cameron: Good advice.

Keep a handgun beside one’s bed which will get you to your shotgun. If it looks like “Alamo” time the shotgun and/or handgun will get you to your AR and several pre-loaded magazines. AR perfect weapon for defense against a multi-perp home invasion.

Handgun and shotgun should have one in the pipe.

Good also to teach the wife how to at least handle a small DA revolver loaded with 38 cal +P.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

Whenever I dust (hate dusting) or clean out/reorganize closets or drawers, I constantly come across boxes of ammo my husband has stashed in every room.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Cameron
3 years ago

I live out West, and keeping a rifle or shotgun over the front door was a staple of the Old West, so I’m guessing that was hard-earned wisdom. Sometimes you just used it to get dinner if an elk happened to stroll by in the distance. But I’m all for planning for the worse-case scenario, so multiple firearms in multiple places makes good sense to me also. No one in the national media will report it, but AR-15s are flooding into private hands in the US at present. The numbers are staggering and only held back by limited supply. And… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Sometimes just the sound of racking the slide will solve the problem.

Never factor that into your decision-making. You’re chambering that round because you’re going to blow a hole in someone. Embrace it.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Vizzini
3 years ago

True that.
Something that was taught in firearms training several decades ago;

If you point a gun at a person, you better be ready to pull the trigger;

If you’re going to pull the trigger, you better be ready to kill someone.

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Scare them away? No, once they’ve broken into my castle, it’s open season. There will be no warnings.

JohnWayne
JohnWayne
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

Find a good lawyer ahead of time, like now. Criminal defense lawyer. You shoot, cops come, they arrest you, maybe cuff you. Say little. “He tried to kill me so i shot him.” Say nothing more until you see your lawyer, especially you shoot a POC!

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Much of the problem is the Empire realizes it is impotent and no longer capable of military victory so it has turned inward to oppress its own people. This. Is a historic pattern, and particularly true of monstrous police states such as this one. And, let’s face it, when a foreign power gets the upper hand in the near future, who would not welcome it as a liberator? A National Divorce is the best option and unfortunately the least likely one. Still, the states going their own ways and creating parallel institutions is a positive development and holds out some… Read more »

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

One could argue that the USSR was “saved,” temporarily at least, by the Nazi invasion of. 1941. It is always necessary for the Leviathan to “unite” the population against a “common enemy.”
Looks like that “common enemy” is you, White boy.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

This is exactly the intent and partially the effect. It seems implausible a majority population can be marginalized to such a great extent, though, for a sustained period.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

USSR has turned against their own people right from the beginning though.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

It’s Russia, in case you missed the memo.

Damian
Damian
Reply to  Carl B.
3 years ago

Am just reading The Chief Culprit by Vicktor Suvarov. He claims that Starlin was militarizing the SU since the early 1930s with technology bought from the US in the 1920s. They were about to invade western Europe but the N’s literally beat them to the punch. They lost all of their supplies and aircraft that were based on the Soviet/German border in Poland, ready to invade Germany followed by the rest of Europe. Hence they fell back to easily. VS maintains that the extra forces for the spring offensive were actually 1m paratroopers who’d been kept in the rear to… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Damian
3 years ago

Why are you saying Starlin? We don’t need to speak in code here.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Damian
3 years ago

Haven’t read “Culprit” but I did read his “Inside the Aquarium”. (~1988) About his GRU days. Very entertaining, many James Bond gadget details; not sure how factual. While I don’t dabble in the genre, British intelligence agent Peter Wright’s “Spycatcher” also well done, also late 80s. Wright alleged head of MI6 was Soviet Agent; this got him banned in the UK so that is enough authenticity for me 🙂

karl hungus
karl hungus
3 years ago

except it’s way more than 20%. maybe the hard core left is 20%, but their enablers are another 50+% of the population. nd divorce won’t work, as it is also a form of compromise. only war will solve this problem, and then only for a few generations…

bob sykes
bob sykes
Reply to  karl hungus
3 years ago

Counting soft left, you have virtually all blacks, all Hispanics, all Jews and at least half of all Whites. That gets you to almost 70%.

Evil Sandmich
Reply to  karl hungus
3 years ago

Still behind the eight-ball. You could find the most rural, white, out of the way place, and if BigPoz came in and offered to build a sports complex/micro brew/big box store/etc. in exchange for the locals subsidizing some section 8 housing being built they’d jump a chance.