The Partisan State

It was Lenin who popularized the term partisan, as in someone who is party-minded or exclusively concerned with the interests of his political party. He coined the term to explain why socialists should abandon objective analysis of politics. In a society of antagonistic classes, the owners of property versus the laboring classes, class interests and material conditions of existence determine political outlook. Therefore, all claims to objectivity are delusional or self-serving.

We see this in the dynamics of American politics, but not in the way in which Marxists imagined the concept. The left side of the ruling elite imagines themselves as the vanguard of society. They are the ones leading social change in order to achieve their not always well-define ideals. As a practical matter, this means they are the champions and caretakers of the interests of minority groups or in the language of the moment, “the under-represented and historically excluded groups.”

The opponent is always cast as the face of established interests. After all, the power dynamic would not make a lot of sense if the opponents of the oppressed were powerless or inclusive. In partisan politics, it is always David versus Goliath, even when David is all powerful and Goliath is powerless. For most of the last half century, the American Left has had total control of the high ground in America, but they are sure they are the underdog and the Right controls everything.

What this means is that the power relationship is the keystone of the moral dynamic within partisan politics. The underdog, the oppressed, the excluded, must always be the moral superior. Otherwise, it is possible that the oppressed are being oppressed for good reasons or worse yet, the partisan is in fact the oppressor. We see this today where massive global corporations destroy the lives of ordinary citizens while simultaneously claiming this is being done in self-defense.

In Marxist theory, once the working class conquered the capital class, there would no longer be a need for politics. The workers would usher in a classless society. Without classes, there could be no class conflict and therefore no need for politics. In reality, the partisan needs an opponent to exist. The very definition of the partisan is rooted in the existence of the opponent. If one wanted to identify the inflection point of the Soviet Union, it would be when Brezhnev toasted Nixon.

In America, this problem has been solved by generating an organic opponent, custom made to play the role of oppressor, while never threatening the real power. In the middle of the last century, the American Left was in total control. The New Deal was confirmed by the fact that progressives conquered the economic depression at home and conquered fascism around the world. The best the Republican Party could do is promise to be just like the Democrats, which was pointless.

The birth of conservatism solved a massive problem. Buckley style conservatism began as a revolt against the war socialism that lingered on long after the war, but quickly became a usable opponent when debating the next great crusade, the long twilight struggle against the ancient opponent to the East. Conservatism was quickly packaged as the face of the oppressor, the tool of corporate interests. Soon, every Republican was pictured as the little guy from the Monopoly game.

Back then, the coalition of the oppressed championed by the Left reflected the demographics of the country. It was mostly white urban working class people and rural whites, with blacks as a silent partner. The silent partner grew less silent over time, but the demographics of the country grew darker as well. The original opponent was the white middle-class and has remained so. As the complexion of the coalition has grown darker, the nature of the opponent has grown whiter.

The trouble is the old Buckley conservatism discredited itself after the Cold War and no longer makes for a useful opponent. The system has been desperate to create a new enemy, but so far, they have only come up with cartoon villains. The persecution of the January 6th protestors is as much out of frustration as anything else. The Left is so angry that they cannot find real bad guys, they are taking it out on grandmothers who had the temerity to walk into the people’s house.

The ridiculousness of the new bogeymen does not mean the partisans have thrown in the towel on the project. There are efforts to create a new right-wing, which they have helpfully called the New Right. Members of the Old Right are looking for a reboot, so they are happy to join the project. The heirs of Trotsky are hard at work trying to sort this problem as well. They helped the Old Right avoid putting their ideas into practice for 70 years, so they are hoping to repeat this with the New Right.

Therein lies a critical part of the partisan society. It must always be partisans versus objectivist, with partisans having the power. The partisan puts his ideas into practice, while the objectivist is content to describe the world. The main reason for this is that as soon as the objectivist tries to act on his ideas, he is ruined. We see this in dissident politics, where you can analyze what is happening, but if you hint at any action, the C-suites of global capital are alive with ideas on how to crush you.

The thing is, the partisan state relies upon all parties believing that the struggle is real, not just theater. In America, this has meant that the upper-middle-class radicals must believe the enemy has real power and is willing to use it. On the other side, the perpetual losers must think they can win. Politics in the partisan state is a game of zebras versus lions. The zebras win most skirmishes, but in the end, the lions win the battle, and they only need to win once. The lions control every outcome.

The question is what happens when people stop believing this fantasy. Dissidents see the growing ranks of people who no longer see a point to conservatism or even conventional politics. In a world of rigged elections and grotesque levels of political corruption, voting is an insult. Something similar is happening on the Left, where the disaffected Bernie Bros are questioning the game. They already have a new party that is on the ballot in over twenty states.

The Soviet Union provides a little insight as to what happens when the struggle stops being real for the people. The 1920’s and 1930’s provided the Bolsheviks with enemies they could use to justify themselves. The war provided the ultimate enemy for the system, but then came the peace. The Khrushchev years were about making the dream of socialism real, but when that failed, the partisan state ceased to exist. Instead, it was a generation of oligarchic rule with the tattered trappings of socialism.

It can be argued that the détente with the West is the only thing that kept the Soviet Union from collapsing much earlier. The American empire needed the Soviet Empire, so it was happy to help the Soviets keep their system running. The American empire has no enemy to serve this role. The Chinese are too smart to be trapped into a new Cold War and the Russians are too weak. The instability we see is a partisan state that has run out of enemies and therefore, lost its moral authority.


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A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
2 years ago

The artist formerly known as Judge Smails. Sorry. No down vote was intended., I fumble fingered it and it can’t be withdrawn. If such a thing happens, the PTB ‘s will be using the capital police for that. Problem is that the land they need to control is too vast and when things go hot, the outsiders will end up running away. It doesn’t matter if it urban or rural. If some street gang in California doesn’t want the Feds there, they will be gone toot sweet.Latino gangs under Obama literally ethnically cleansed Blacks out of whole neighborhoods and while… Read more »

Whiskey
Whiskey
2 years ago

One thing I noticed with the Texas Democrats fleeing the state. They were nearly all ugly fat women, mostly White, a few black. No male would follow those hags. So there is that. Secondly, Biden’s Townhall he spouted gibberish and had freeze up moments. The drugs no longer work, and people know it. There were maybe 200 people there. Third, the destruction of our heroes, whether statues and iconic historical figures, or beloved pop culture icons from Star Wars and Star Trek and Dr. Who, cannot be stopped. But no man can love the Female Woke Doctor. Or the go-girrrrrrlllll… Read more »

Pasaran
Pasaran
Reply to  Whiskey
2 years ago

Aren’t the crowd in NBA’s arenas mostly white? (open question, no idea)

Professor Alfred Sharpton
Professor Alfred Sharpton
Reply to  Pasaran
2 years ago

Well, the tickets are expensive. TV viewership demos may be a little different.

Xin Loi
Xin Loi
Reply to  Pasaran
2 years ago

The crowds at NBA games ARE mostly young urban whites with tons of disposable income – venture capitalists, lawyers, etc.

They can have fun there acting like joggers, which they can’t do at home or on the job.

Prayer of the Rollerboys
Prayer of the Rollerboys
2 years ago

I remember pundits on the www during the run up to sand box war II and the Graveyard of Empires (Afghanistan) tour saying you won’t like it when this comes to America.
The extra super bad azz $500 toilet seat MIC couldn’t beat some sand/mountain dwellers with WW1 rifles and improvised explosives so they had to bring it on home.
They won’t win this one either.
Note to those who just want to be left alone or go along to get along, that is not how Bolshevik Revolution 2.0 works.

Z Anon
Z Anon
2 years ago

“The ridiculousness of the new bogeymen does not mean the partisans have thrown in the towel on the project. There are efforts to create a new right-wing” They are literally engaged in these efforts. That’s what the Gretchen Whitmer faux kidnapping scheme was about: providing an enemy for the new democrat president to rally his base around (you). It’s also what the Base and any other number of government generated groups are about: creating an enemy (anti-Regime, White Caucasian) the ruling class can unite the brown masses against in order to maintain control of them. Further example: Matt Heimbach is… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Z Anon
2 years ago

We have nothing to apologize for regarding Cville, even though Heimbach was there.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

Apologies are nowhere near enough to forgive following an Obama/OWS stooge and Spencer into their antifa/fed op.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Hemid
2 years ago

Maybe your powers of prescience are greater than mine, but I knew Spencer before Cville and Kessler shortly after, and whatever their flaws may be, they were not feds. (At least not then. Spencer now, who knows?)

Very few people foresaw the breakdown of law and order that occurred at Cville. We had a permit and case law was on our side. Police had respected that before.

Did you foresee all the well-meaning patriots of Jan 6 getting put in solitary confinement too? If so, tell me, have we already lost? Is all opposition futile?

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

If so, tell me, have we already lost? Is all opposition futile?

https://files.catbox.moe/3mqzcg.mp4

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

Let me rephrase my questions: Under what conditions would you oppose our rulers?

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

oppose

I don’t mean to be rude, but to my ear, that’s shabbos-goyische boomer-speak.

And as far as the real world is concerned, it’s effectively gibberish.

Purchase moar cases of @mmun!tion, and then be patient, muh brutha.

In the meantime, keep a bounce in your step, a twinkle in your eye, and a great big sh!t-eating grin on your face.

PRO-TIP: Teh fertile p00nt@ng can’t see you grin if the sterile Karenz have shamed you into wearing a sanitary napkin over your face.

FBI ProTip Guy
FBI ProTip Guy
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

Spencer is a suspicious type you should probably avoid. He has all the poor character traits that make him an easy mark for the FBI: emotional, attention-seeking, money troubles, narcissistic, plagued with legal troubles, has access to a wide number of people whom the FBI would wish to monitor, has a history of incendiary rhetoric and actions (Heilgate) that could be called upon at the right moment to tar a rising right-wing star or movement. This is the kind of guy whom the FBI would flip in exchange for money or legal leniency, and Richard Spencer strikes me as the… Read more »

NoOneAtAll
NoOneAtAll
2 years ago

***The DR seems to think that: (a) the time is dire and everything is going to shit and they are hunting us down no matter what we do and the nation is dead and politics is dead and the elites want us dead and there is no law and order or rule of law and you best have your preps in order and any day now we will be south africa or worse and voting is retarded and schools are a wasteland and we have no unifying culture or power within any of the prevailing systems or institutions; and (b)… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  NoOneAtAll
2 years ago

Often I find myself wondering if the DR believes its own rhetoric. Very few of us behave or even talk like we actually believe what we say. They act SHOCKED when globohomo does something evil to us. Like they don’t REALLY believe the enemy hates us and wants us dead. Or they act like there is all the time in the world and that we have the luxury of time. The “patriot” right does the same thing. One minute they are crying about how the “left” stole the election and the next minute how they are going to vote Trump… Read more »

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

I don’t think anyone here is surprised when new things happen. We’re just surprised at how brazen and in the open they’re being now.

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  The Greek
2 years ago

He11uva lotta shabbos goysiche boomerz here chez Z.

No wonder Z treats y’all so gently with the kid gloves & whatnot.

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
2 years ago

There’s a very good book called “Gangs of America” written by Ted Nace that is worth reading. It describes the history of corporations up to how the US courts gave corporations legal status equal and in many cases, superior to those rights individual Americans are granted under the 14th Amendment. Communism and socialism have nothing on what global corporations have done to destroy and subvert democracy and ruin lives and livelihoods by using the US Constitution and over 125-years of back room political deals and legislation to subvert not only American’s Constitutional rights, but to destroy governments around the globe.… Read more »

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
2 years ago

In fairness, the Corporations are simply the hired thugs [which is to say, the public face] of the Equity Class.

Corporations are to Equity as Potato Kneegr0w & Eggp1ant gangstaz were to Meyer Lansky.

The True Power is always hiding behind the curtain.

Cloaked in Darkness.

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Not My Usual Pen Name
2 years ago

And always looking for wedge issues.

Tashtego
Member
2 years ago

On the subject of partisanship I advocate adopting a disciplined consistency in describing the enemy and their statements as hate groups, extremists, hate speech etc. since these terms have no concrete definition aside from ‘the adl or splc says so’ yet there are actual consequences to being tarred by that brush, the enemy will have to spend energy denying the obvious and obscuring the blatantly partisan nature of their own definitions, eroding legitimacy. Its a simple sand-in-gears action that can be used every day.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Tashtego
2 years ago

Do you worry that by you are re-enforcing the idea that “hate,” which really means recognizing racial differences, is the worst thing ever?

Maybe this is a short term tactical gain at the expense of long term strategic goals. Just curious.

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

Do you worry that by you are re-enforcing the idea that “hate,” which really means recognizing racial differences, is the worst thing ever? The biggest mistake here is in taking any of this shiznat seriously. You know what the sanhedrin of the Frankfurt School fear the moast? Humor. Laughter. Ridicule. Being the butt of the joke. Instead of trying to out-hate the most hateful race of Adrenochrome-drinking hominids ever to walk the face of the earth, simply laugh at them. Although I have to confess that Kamalatoe Harris’s daughter-in-law is so freaking herpetologically hideous that I almost feel sorry for… Read more »

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Not My Usual Pen Name
2 years ago

In terms of taking things seriously, just keep purchasing case after case after case of the correct ca1ibers of @mmun!t!0n for your rif1es and sh0tg*ns, and then when the time comes, we’ll simple appeal to the ancient sociological recipe bequeathed to us by our Ancestors: C@ed!te e0s. N0v!t enim Dom!nus qu! sunt e!us.

Drew
Drew
2 years ago

Re: ” The instability we see is a partisan state that has run out of enemies and therefore, lost its moral authority.”

“When Alexander of Macedonia was 33 he cried salt tears because there were no more worlds to conquer.”

Muhammad Izadi
2 years ago

Soviet fate was sealed when Russian Nationalism regained its lost strength, which was an inevitability in any case.

In other words, when the Putin generation came of age, the grey-haired, seniles in the power structure found it increasingly difficult to run the affairs in a neat power vertical.

The intervention in Afghanistan also made matters worse. Senior and aged officials feared that if they tried too hard, the young guns might slaughter them.

nailheadtom
nailheadtom
Reply to  Muhammad Izadi
2 years ago

the grey-haired, seniles in the power structure found it increasingly difficult to run the affairs

Another great myth.

Z Anon
Z Anon
Reply to  nailheadtom
2 years ago

It’s not a myth.The Soviet Union was run by aging geriatrics for years before Gorbachev came along. There is a startling similarity between their leadership and American leadership current day. Pelosi, Schumer, and McConnell are all over the age of 70 (McConnell is 78 and Pelosi is 81). The next generation is the much younger AOC generation. That’s the group that will destroy America just as Gorbachev foolishly destroyed his Soviet Union with fanciful ideas (USSR: Bolshevism will last if reformed with Western sensibilities. USSA: The Liberal World Order will last if the demographic that created it is replaced).

nailheadtom
nailheadtom
Reply to  Z Anon
2 years ago

Kruschev was 59 when he took power, his successor, Breznev was 58. Putin first held national office at age 47.

ArthurinCali
2 years ago

Afghanistan-20 years Iraq-18+ years Throughout my military career, it seemed farcical to line up 3rd world countries as our supposed foes, or possible threats to the world. Iraq’s Saddam as the next Hitler? Pfft. The mantra of warheads on foreheads and the justifications that we were fighting overseas so we didn’t have to fight them in the US became such a joke. The best example was a deployment to the Persian Gulf whereas we were tasked to defend oil platforms. Yes, the mighty US Navy was utilized for ExxonMobil and Chevron. Taxpayer funded security to ensure shareholders kept receiving dividends.… Read more »

Rommel's Recon Halftrack
Rommel's Recon Halftrack
Reply to  ArthurinCali
2 years ago

What if the plan was to weaken the military in you break you buy it quagmires, have Hussein make it woke dot MIL and then use the UN small arms treaty to get the guns.
Uncle Joe Joe Biden said he wants all guns at the Communist News Network townhall circle jerk.
Occupied enemy territory, infiltrated, surrounded on all sides and soon to be invaded thanks to a Long Marching fifth column of fellow traveler traitors.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Rommel's Recon Halftrack
2 years ago

Picking up 400M weapons ain’t gonna happen. But of course they can try. Effective removal would start with repression of ownership and use, then a multigenerational wait while follow-on generations have little to no experience with use of such weapons and eventually abandon them to the government to avoid their liability. (Think of all those widows that turned in their dead husbands’ weapons at gun buybacks a couple of decade ago.)

Problem is, our Lefty “friends” can’t wait and always overreach. The waiting game when they have the whip hand is not their forte.

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

The waiting game when they have the whip hand is not their forte.

^^^This.

It’s why I’m telling you peeps to chill out & relax & stockpile moar @mm0.

The Left always overplays its hand, and when that happens, it will be precisely our green light to come down on them with a fist of iron camouflaged in a velvet glove.

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  ArthurinCali
2 years ago

“. . . the justifications that we were fighting overseas so we didn’t have to fight them in the US became such a joke.”

Yeah, we wouldn’t need to fight them ‘there’ (or here for that matter), if we didn’t bring them here.

It wasn’t a very good idea to kill people in the Middle East while at the same time bringing their relatives and co-religionists to the United States.

ArthurinCali
Reply to  Federalist
2 years ago

As Steve Sailer says, “Invade the World, Invite the World.”

What many of the locals would say, whether in Dubai, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, etc, was that they had no problem with Americans. They just didn’t like us having multiple bases and influence in their countries and affairs.

Just as we would chafe over Chinese or Korean military bases in California or Texas…

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  ArthurinCali
2 years ago

We had to fight in Afghanistan and Iraq to bring the fight to our enemies.

Otherwise, the Al Qaeda/Taliban/Iraqi Battlefleet would have launched its invasion of the United States.

ArthurinCali
Reply to  Federalist
2 years ago

@Federalist

With the Dhow armada leading the charge across the oceans, begging for food and water all along the way.

The most stressful experience was when these tiny fishing boats would pop up next to our ship through the fog. The VBSS (visit, board, search, seizure) team would assemble to confront the boats. Thankfully we never had a USS COLE moment. All they did was ask for food and water, which we of course gave them.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  ArthurinCali
2 years ago

Back in the Regan years, there was a political cartoon that went something like this. Before I start, it’s worth noting that ALL the claims in the “joke” were true:

The USA is funding a Chinese Maoist trained guerilla “freedom fighter” (Jonas Savimbi), to attack Cuban troops guarding U.S. oil company personnel (Gulf) pumping oil in a Marxist country (Angola). If any of this makes any sense, there is a good job waiting for you at the State Department. 😀

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
2 years ago

Compromise is a very conservative value. It’s what saved Britain from the terrors of the French Revolutionary spirit…an evil spirit, from jumping the pond in the 1790s. Britain was a kingdom with a robust, centered government. Partisanship, even before the communists, was invented in the French fever swamp during the bloodbaths. A place where everyone had to call each other “citizen.” The problem with compromise, is that it has to be AMONG the same tribe or ethnicity. Once it crosses tribal boundaries, it works is opposition to good, as a ratchet against the host tribe. Compromise is a non-starter in… Read more »

Muhammad Izadi
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 years ago

“There is a tribe we can learn from in this respect.”

That tribe is a parasite that feeds on the gentile body.

It appears powerful because the host, who is now too frail to even move a muscle, refused to squash it a long time ago.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Muhammad Izadi
2 years ago

True. But I’m results oriented, and they get great results. I still don’t understand how they could ever attach themselves to the Han tribe once they’re done with us, but if it’s possible, they’ll be able to do it. We are the problem. It’s our culture that allows them to do to us what they do.

Muhammad Izadi
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 years ago

“I still don’t understand how they could ever attach themselves to the Han tribe…”

They have been attached to the Han since the days of (((Kissinger))).

Both Han and the tribe fiercely resist any reinterpretation of the official WWII narrative, which slanders the White race.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Muhammad Izadi
2 years ago

But they still have to be on the ground, in Han territory, looting the place, and that tribe is known for having the same traits that they have. It would have to be a transactional relationship. They would have to bring something to the table that the Hans need. I don’t see that. The Hans need petroleum security above all right now. But they can go straight to Riyadh and Dubai for to secure that.

Muhammad Izadi
Reply to  Muhammad Izadi
2 years ago

“They would have to bring something to the table that the Hans need.”

Israel has been transferring a lot of cutting-edge gentile defense technology to the Han for years now.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Muhammad Izadi
2 years ago

Not one of Mao’s inner circle were Chinese from the Long March. (Mao was their puppet, he was a nobody on the March itself, until he proved his worth negotiating a deal with a warlord who had 4 times the troops and territory.)

But Wirth, they have brought something, I’d say the table itself. Islamic “usury free” banks and creaky Han banks both have a hidden foundation- the BIS banks that underwrite their investment.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Muhammad Izadi
2 years ago

Forgive me, but the flaw in that ointment is enforcement. How the tribe has been able to enforce payment of their compound interest, I don’t know, but they’ve enforced it for centuries. Where in hades did they get the seed money for the origination loans, I don’t know that either.

tristan
tristan
Reply to  JR Wirth
2 years ago
Yak-15
Yak-15
2 years ago

If everything shall be partisan, perhaps provide us a list of companies to support who do t openly hate us. The default assumption, of course, is that those not on the list are enemies.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Yak-15
2 years ago

Here is the list of global companies that do not hate us: . In reality, they don’t actually hate us. They are just larping leftism because they see the left has won, and now must pay it protection money. The right is too weak to push back because it still has too many remnants of Con Inc. who are either bought off as well, or are circle-jerking libertarians. The only strategy I can see is to shop as local as you can.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  DLS
2 years ago

COPE, as the kids say. They hate us more than we can imagine.

Wokeness/antiwhiteness/etc. is the ideology of finance capital, and the Western left has adopted it *from them*, because they’re greedy, obedient, and sadistic. What we’re up against is far more serious than “leftism.”

The average C-suiter hates you more than the most frothing Nazi hated the most stereotypical Jew.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
2 years ago

Skimmed that article about the new right. It mentioned an editor who bemoaned the revolution’s outsized place in American mythology. I agree. Once concluded, the project should’ve been nation building, and it was to some extent. Then the Gettysburg address happened, then making the world safe for democracy, now globohomo. The revolution never ended. I disagree with that editor that the Puritans should be the model. They were, of course, revolutionaries. We’ve been too little concerned with our nation, and the present situation is the natural consequence. None of it should be surprising, nor is the solution hard to figure… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

Thanks for skimming it so I didn’t have to.

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

“Once concluded, the project should’ve been nation building…”

That was Washington’s view. He didn’t quite trust firebrands like Jefferson, though he recognized their brilliance. But George Washington would have fallen into the central banking trap had Jefferson not intervened. Money always gets its way, however. And eventually, the Money Power prevailed.

TomA
TomA
2 years ago

If you haven’t seen it yet, Buzzfeed (and others) have new & lengthy expose´s of the FBI entrapment OP involving a plot to kidnap Gov. Whitmer of Michigan. Key takeaways include: the FBI spends about $42 million/yr on confidential informants (one of which has earned nearly $5 million for services rendered), the seminal act which led to indictments & arrests was planned & directed by a deep-cover CI in the titular leadership role of the group, the FBI collected a mountain of evidence over several months (including 1,300 hours of audio/video recordings), at least 12 CIs & UC agents participated,… Read more »

tristan
tristan
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

It was obviously done with the “victim” and the feds in cahoots.
She originated it with a few higher ups, the feds just supplied the usual process.

Its so transparently a fake political hate crime with the entire arc pre-planned – its just they were sloppy about their own exposure.

Expect to see more of this in the future. Fake nooses equivalent for politicians will become very commonplace.

forest grump
forest grump
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

FBI: agent booked for years of sexual abuse of adults and children.
including children under 13 yrs old . https://www.wbrz.com/news/fbi-agent-arrested-in-ascension-accused-of-child-sex-crimes-in-multiple-parishes/

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

Two men from a DR forum realize they live in the same AO. They may not have a lot in common, but do share many ideas about the importance of male friendships as the foundation of building self-reliant communities. So they agree to have a cup of coffee. Maybe that conversation leads to sharing of some ideas about what community means to them, about how they might begin to share their expertise, time, and resources to build a foundation of those ideas. Or maybe one of them keeps talking about specific actions that orient toward *something or someone else* and… Read more »

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Screwtape
2 years ago

Or maybe one of them keeps talking about specific actions that orient toward *something or someone else* and not those innocuous things about daily life that aggregate toward this idea of community. So the other says “thanks for meeting with me, but I have to get going” and it ends there. Or, maybe, shoots the guy and the world has one fewer FBI agents in it. It’s weird to think that one effective way to sap government strength would be to join a white nationalist group with the plan to kill all it’s members’, the majority of which are federal… Read more »

BTP
Member
Reply to  Drew
2 years ago

That’s so crazy it just might work.

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  BTP
2 years ago

+infinity

[in and of itself is too short for the sp@m-fi1ter so I have to add some extra verbiage]

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Drew
2 years ago

While contemplating the murder of state agents might be a pleasant fantasy, it does carry significant real-world risks, including if you stray too far and incur criminal conspiracy charges which can get you decades of prison time without a single drop of blood being spilled, a shot fired or explosive detonated. May I point out we are not yet at the End Times, and you are not Rambo, Ben Raines or whatever mythical figure you may envision yourself to be. With those admonitions out of the way, however, allow me to share a “sand in the gears” option that just… Read more »

Gunner Q
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
2 years ago

It is a bad idea to con a con man.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Screwtape
2 years ago

Screwtape. This is the comment that I wanted to write. But much better than I could have written it. Lovely, lad. Just lovely.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Screwtape
2 years ago

Perhaps due diligence into the other person’s employment history would help. As Zman mentioned in his podcast two weeks ago, he can spot fakers pretty easily by asking a few questions. IIRC, he gave an example of a guy claiming to be a plumber who had soft hands, and deflected on basic plumbing questions. Also, don’t do stupid shit. We are so far away from being able to organize a strong resistance that falling for a violent entrapment plot is beyond stupid. The thing that really hurts is that we can’t even do the MLK thing, and have massive peaceful… Read more »

BTP
Member
Reply to  DLS
2 years ago

Codvilla wrote that he would get these buff, 30-something guys – who just moved to the area for work and had no family – approach him after a speech and begin asking questions. He would tell them to report that they had failed.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Screwtape
2 years ago

Screwtape, I’m not against meeting up IRL with others in the DR (for coffee or any other circumstance). I’m FOR being educated about the current modus operandi of the FBI and the risks of being lured into a trap. If you’re smart enough to avoid these pitfalls, by all means, go for it, do your thing. But don’t be fooled by a bygone image of FBI agents & CIs as clean cut Joe Friday types. The agent that put a serious beatdown on his wife looks like metalhead biker, and apparently acts like one too.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

Agree. The mythos of the thin blue line and GI men of all other stripes being “our guys” or protecting us in any way needs to be drilled home.

At the same time I tire of the paradox of inaction, the self-hobbling of our guys marinating in our own dissonance that time is short, the war is real, good vs evil, the nation/culture/past is gone yet we must meticulously craft anything that crosses the blood and soil barrier into real life according to the terms defined by those who want us dead.

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  Screwtape
2 years ago

In muh FBI timeline, I forgot to mention the Frankfurt School sanheder, Mark Felt. Felt had already infiltrated the FBI in 1947, and by circa 1970 had risen to the position of Associate Director [very roughly the same position which the Frankfurt School sanheder, Rod Rosenstein, would hold, half a century later]. And if you look at the flow of the data points, it all starts and ends with Frankfurt School stage productions: Ephraim Zimbalist Jr in ABC’s FBI -> Mark Felt -> Carl Bernstein & Katherine Meyer “Graham” -> shabbos goyische stool pigeon, Bob Woodward -> Robert Redford &… Read more »

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

But don’t be fooled by a bygone image of FBI agents & CIs as clean cut Joe Friday types. One of the very strangest bagel-eaters of the mid-20th Century was one Ephraim Zimbalist Jr. His father, Ephraim Sr, was a renowned classical violin player, and was the director at Curtis for almost three decades. Ephraim Jr’s daughter, Stephanie, starred with a young Pierce Brosnan, in a television series called, “Remington Steele”. She never married, had no children, and is now long since post-menopausal. The Zimbalists were reputed to have been evangelical Christians, and Jr spent a great deal of time… Read more »

Gunner Q
Reply to  Screwtape
2 years ago

Exactly! My last meetup, I introduced the other guy to snorkeling. Informants don’t want to be your friend, they want to make a buck by tricking you into self-incrimination as quickly as possible. Just don’t talk fringe in the early days and they’ll move on.

With these anti-socializing lockdowns, it is victory enough to make a new friend.

Good ol' Rebel
Good ol' Rebel
Reply to  Screwtape
2 years ago

Ok, Scewtape, name the coffee joint; you are in the north or north east of a certain city, I’m due south of it.
(So, how do you actually do this without self-doxing?)

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Good ol' Rebel
2 years ago

Ok click my screen name and you can register at the site with a burner email and PM me there.

Ive face to faced with several on that site that. If thats not appealing perhaps another way to double-blind emails will come to mind.

Also: John has a long mustache. The chair is against the wall.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

It was obvious last summer that Antifa and BLM were well-organized, well-funded, Deep State sanctioned ops.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Once you saw pallets of bricks being dropped off in select areas, and no arrests or prosecutions, the game was fairly obvious.

Not My Usual Pen Name
Not My Usual Pen Name
Reply to  DLS
2 years ago

Once you saw pallets of bricks being dropped off in select areas, and no arrests or prosecutions, the game was fairly obvious.

And Donald Barr’s boy, Billy Barr, oversaw the whole d@mned thing.

I’m telling you peeps, it was not an accident that Donald Barr gave Jeffrey Epstein a teaching gig at the Dalton School for filthy shiksa sluts & hoz.

Donald Barr was one heap big sanheder in the Frankfurt School.

That bagel-eater was seriously connected within TPTB.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

TomA writes, “Every face-to-face meetup in the DR will likely include majority participation by Stasi CIs & UC agents, and likely will be led by same,” and he’s not wrong. However, his comment reveals my difference with him. While he does say wise things about individual natural selection, he avoids powerful forces like organized groups or ethnocentrism. Organized groups usually beat “go it alone” individuals. I am part of a number of groups. We do our best to maintain high standards of vetting and we don’t do anything illegal. That said, maybe my next message on this board will be… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

I thought I had made this comment previously, but I’ll reiterate once again. I’m all for building a like-minded communities and interacting with others who share our values & aspirations. But as was true in all prior authoritarian countries (think Soviet Russia or Communist China), all conversation must be necessarily stilted & benign if you want to survive very long. Both the Nazis & Soviets even persuaded some children to rat out their parents, so you must be reflexively on-guard all the time when in the company of others. This can be quite tiring. And you clearly misunderstand my “philosophy”… Read more »

The artist formerly known as Judge Smails
The artist formerly known as Judge Smails
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

As I have said before, the highly effective enforcement machine that keeps YT down is primarily made up of White males. They seem derive a lot pleasure and fullfilment from their jobs. I am not sure how they can have such enthusiasm in serving a Government that publicly calls them and their children terrorists . Maybe they truly believe that Bezos, Gates, and Soros will save seats on the escape pods for their families.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich

Z has spoken to this before and my paraphrased gist is that to the spy the universe begins and ends at their skin

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
2 years ago

This begs the question, “Well, what next?”
I’ve never known a world without class struggle baked in.

That must be why Hayek warned about letting war planners get ahold of the economy, because everything then becomes a war.

War on getting the litter picked up, war on getting a functional sewer system, maybe?
War on getting the harvest in or on keeping the car running is about all the angst-ridden existence one should need, really.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 years ago

Hayek was great. I really like The Road to Serfdom, but it is just a shame that most of the world didn’t think like old Hayek. What are these ‘duty bound freedoms’ of which you speak? What is ‘responsibility’?

It remains my favourite short book about the problems with large scale centralization, though.

“War on getting the litter picked up, war on getting a functional sewer system, maybe?
War on getting the harvest in or on keeping the car running is about all the angst-ridden existence one should need, really.”

No, old son. War on whites, past, present and future.

nailheadtom
nailheadtom
2 years ago

the long twilight struggle against the ancient opponent to the East.

The US hasn’t been around long enough to have had a “long twilight struggle” with anybody. Except for a few square-rigger whalers in the 19th century most Americans had never seen a Russian and couldn’t have named the Tsar or his capital.

Once a gang transforms into a government, the ideology it used to justify its actions no longer means anything, no matter if the gang is pseudo-socialist or pseudo-capitalist. The US vs USSR beef isn’t much different than the Crips vs. the Bloods.

Federalist
Federalist
Reply to  nailheadtom
2 years ago

“The US hasn’t been around long enough to have had a ‘long twilight struggle’ with anybody.”

I think he means that the ‘ancient opponent to the East’ (Russia) was the ancient opponent of the little hat wearers.

Severian
2 years ago

What a fascinatingly stupid time to be alive. There are really no good historical analogies. One is tempted to say that the US is becoming a banana republic, but the key feature of banana republics is the bipolar world of the Cold War — El Sleazo Caudillo del Momento always had to thread the needle, because there was never any shortage of potential rebels backed by one superpower or the other. In short, El Sleazo was always propped up by somebody, and despite his pretensions to grandeur, he knew he was always at the mercy of one or both of… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Severian
2 years ago

We’re the ghetto pit bull with Alzhiemer’s.

Worse, now we think everybody’s trying to poke us with a stick. It’s just the mailman, for gosh sakes.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Severian
2 years ago

My guess is the primary adversaries, Russia, China, and Iran would like to wait us out but the MIC is pushing for some kinetic action to generate war bucks. Yes, the United States will suffer a crushing defeat but my bet is the war against the Deplorables amps up at that point to try to justify the MIC’s expense account.

It is very dangerous time both for the world and especially for those who exist within the borders of the Regime and outside of its preferred classes.

Severian
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

Fortunately, the hypothesis “the MIC will try to stomp on ‘domestic insurrection’ in order to keep the money flowing” is a testable hypothesis. I’ve never been in the service, let alone been a general or a contractor for Blackwater, so I don’t know, but I bet some of y’all do: Where does most of the money go in our various overseas adventures? As I understand it — again, see the very big caveats above — our MO is to drop a bunch of “smart” munitions all over the place. Then we go in, build giant bases, and run patrols out… Read more »

tristan
tristan
Reply to  Severian
2 years ago

You don’t need the Military if you already have such a huge police sector that is heavily armed and pervasive.

Look at how the Cheka or the Sarak, or the Stasi controlled the entire society.

The military is only useful when you are alien to the country, or the enforcement arm is small or badly equiped.

Severian
Reply to  tristan
2 years ago

Ok, but the hypothesis is specifically that the military is going to be used to do these things, because that’s how the money keeps flowing to the contractors, via channels in the military. I suppose those channels could be re-routed to seriously beef up the police, but it’s a question of scale. You can’t expect the police to expend 10,000 rounds spraying a random hillside because The Enemy might be somewhere in there (“reconnaissance by fire,” as the euphemism was in Vietnam), or burn of 10,000 lbs. of avgas flying around the city in a police helicopter. That kind of… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  tristan
2 years ago

Hence the “defund the police” effort, which should really be named the “replace the local police with federal police” effort.

Good ol' Rebel
Good ol' Rebel
Reply to  tristan
2 years ago

The goal is FATPO, a hybrid of the FBI, SWAT, and a Marine Expeditionary Force, but with Federal badges.

The artist formerly known as Judge Smails
The artist formerly known as Judge Smails
Reply to  tristan
2 years ago

They want Federal police force with zero ties to the local community.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Severian
2 years ago

The domestic bases are there already and ready for expansion and reconfiguration. Now, as far as forward troop deployments, those will be noticed. Perhaps special efforts will be taken to make them especially noticeable. Good ol’ Rebel has outlined what is intended: an integration of traditional military occupation forces with intelligence and federal police agencies. The average federal agency already has a SWAT team (EPA’s is especially nasty). All the pieces are there. Now where to grift? Probably in the development of munitions and assault vehicles aimed at civilian targets and in technologies that require constant replacement and upgrades. Visualize… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
2 years ago

Old Right, New Right, Alt-Right… I’m just a white boy who wants to raise his kids not to imbibe state lies: A shameless Nazi, in other words.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  OrangeFrog
2 years ago

Oh geez. We all know what some white guy washing his car leads too… ovens. Huge giant ovens.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 years ago

Gotta dry it somehow.

Thane
Reply to  OrangeFrog
2 years ago

“I’m just a white boy”… Me, You, and Merle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYsp6fUyhaw

karl mchungus
karl mchungus
2 years ago

What the people currently in charge don’t understand, is that keeping a continental sized country socially and culturally cohesive is critical to keeping it intact geographically. by weakening the cultural practices that provided this cohesiveness in the past, the peeps driving the train today are providing all of us (i.e. true Americans) a real opportunity to reform the country — after a period of tumult. All the excitable types they have been letting in, are the societal equivalent of storing fireworks in your basement…next to the furnace. the mexicans are already ethnically cleansing blacks, and the chinese are stoking things… Read more »

Doug
Doug
Reply to  karl mchungus
2 years ago

The levee has already broken and what is flowing all over us now is the toxic sludge of the Left. I’ve said before that a few strategic hits on the names from that list you mention would have clearly imparted the message “we know what you are up to and we’re not going to let you get away with it.” But it should have been done long before November 2020. The MO of the opposition in our country right now is “I just want to be left alone to live my life” IOW, keep your head in the sand. The… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  karl mchungus
2 years ago

Your final paragraph is sage advice.

Regarding the Left’s relentless drive and overkill, they couldn’t just have power; they want to rub BadWhite’s noses in it. Good, hard and long. Their hatred for us is just too intense.

tristan
tristan
Reply to  OrangeFrog
2 years ago

Its a hatred for everything. As Shafarevich illustrates, the death wish in humans that is currently manifesting as the left has the goal of mankind’s annihilation as its core driver: https://archive.org/details/SocialistPhenomenon/page/n5/mode/2up Sound familiar? “Therefore, in accordance with strict necessity and justice we must devote ourselves wholly and completely to unrestrained and relentless destruction, which must grow in a crescendo until there is nothing left of the existing social forms. …We say: the most complete destruction is incompatible with creation, therefore destruction must be absolute and exclusive. The present generation must begin with real revolutions. It must begin with a complete… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  karl mchungus
2 years ago

Thanks for the white pill today. If there is any saving grace to becoming el Norte de Mexico, it’s that the new arrivals have no white guilt or sympathy for the pets of the ruling class. If geographical separation fails, perhaps a rightwing strongman would be the next least worse alternative.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  DLS
2 years ago

Years ago I speculated on the future of America and I said “an English-speaking version of the Third Reich.” Given the events of the past few years I might have modified that to “Revolutionary France.” But yeah, I think a lot of us would go for a retooled Pinochet or Franco. 🙂

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
2 years ago

“The Chinese are too smart to be trapped into a new Cold War and the Russians are too weak.”

Cold or hot, the US people, economy and military is in no position to challenge China.

The 128th Wal-Mart Motorized Wheel Cart Battalion? The Fighting Frisco Fairies and the Super Saphist Soccer Brigade?

Not that we would have a chance against a unified, industrial enemy, but there is no way my sons and I would fight for this shell of a nation.

DavidTheGnome
DavidTheGnome
Reply to  Moe Noname
2 years ago

I cannot imagine the United States as it presently exists, rallying young American men for a serious meat grinder war with China or anything like that. In the past sure, but I mean even the densest corn fed middle American is probably no longer falling for the patriotism of homosexual jacobins and hebraic kill whitey bureaucracy goblins. At least I hope not.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  DavidTheGnome
2 years ago

Mark Milley disagrees. This is his new idea of cannon fodder.
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OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Doug
2 years ago

Strong, proud, brown and in-da-pen-daaant!

This entity will be running for the office of Resident in the next decade.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Doug
2 years ago

Show some respect, that’s the ¡Science!
And wear your damn mask, bigot.

Semi-Hemi
Semi-Hemi
Reply to  DavidTheGnome
2 years ago

There are a lot of youtube guys who still play the flag waving super patriot. Ever watch Vice Grip Garage? The star is a very funny, very hard working mechanic with a nice family and he does a lot of it. Cleetus McFarland is another one. It just makes me sad to see it, because I know its all over.

karl mchungus
karl mchungus
Reply to  Moe Noname
2 years ago

you are very ignorant on military matters. and china. probably everything. that’s how i would bet.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  karl mchungus
2 years ago

Even if this were true, perhaps he may still be more competent than many of the armchair generals that seem to dominate western top-brass. At this point in time, I am so skeptical, that I do actually think a person commenting on this site might actually do a better job than the currently ‘anointed’ in the next war. Mark you, the next war may well be fought against BadWhites by young soylets, fresh from training on Far Cry 5, COD &c, sitting behind the controls of a drone. Overseen by an approving Air Commodore SuperFawtressa screeching in delight because ‘dat… Read more »

Moe Noname
Moe Noname
Reply to  karl mchungus
2 years ago

Upvote for Mr. McHungus. I’m just a random guy on the Interwebz, I use my young son to clean & maintain my firearms and I pay people to change my oil.

All readers are encouraged to consult trained military tacticians, strategists and logisticians before initiating any hostile or defensive actions.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Moe Noname
2 years ago

McHungus’ brand of satire can be a bit…indelicate. Miss Manners threw him out of her class with curses and tears.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Moe Noname
2 years ago

There are military manuals on the net wrt tactics. Videos of these made as well. Much field craft can be learned from them and former military in your community. You need not even larp in the field with firearms to learn/practice such. Good exercise as well. There was even a pretty good “game” developed years ago called “geocaching”, which with slight modification can be a great training exercise of military potential. None of this is illegal—especially if you keep your long guns at home. All increases your chances of being an effective fighting force should one be forced into that… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Moe Noname
2 years ago

Saw a shocking infographic of European countries that polled citizens whether they would be willing to go to battle for their country. The vast majority had number far below 50%.

Another infographic asked whether life even had meaning, with equally shocking statistics.

Whatever the main causes of the spiritual destruction of modernity, or whether it’s just the natural cycle of a civilization in it’s dying stage, it’s hard to find a complement in world history.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

That’s an interesting statistic in your first paragraph. If true, I wonder why? I wonder if it is either because of the immense feminization of most western males, or if it is because these people hate their own country? I am of the opinion that, even though most people seem to crave being protected in ever increasing increments by the state, they’d never fight for it. We’re talking about ‘triple maskers in the car’ here. They’re even more terrified of combat/violence than normal. Although it would also be lovely if 50% of these countries actually did hate their governments guts.… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

Our material abundance and spiritual decadence have, in the words of U2, put us in a cosmic holding pattern of “nothing to win and nothing left to lose.”

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

I think that the less than 50% number is encouraging. It shows they feel no loyalty to that which their countries have become and it’s the pool from which the future can be built.

Hi -Ya!
Hi -Ya!
Reply to  Moe Noname
2 years ago

I work with upper middle class and wealthy Chinese.

They are like 30 years behind us socially. THey have 1 or 2 trophy children who they spoil and think education is the salvation of humanity.

THey only care about work and money.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Hi -Ya!
2 years ago

That’s interesting and I often thought it. That being the case, their children will then go through the independent/atomised/woke phase and perhaps reach the same level many whites are at today. Certainly, from the set of ‘browns and chinks that were born here’ I see, many appear to be woke.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  OrangeFrog
2 years ago

Seed of optimism here. Where we lead, they’ll follow.

It’s the Design. Salvation comes when we wrest back control of our path.

Ours, not the arrogant, twisted imitators. Their vision is but a caricature. We were made by the Highest power.for this.

miforest
miforest
Reply to  Moe Noname
2 years ago

all china has to do to destroy us us close their ports to exports . we make nothing at all here , not our medicine, tools ,repair parts, auto parts , hospital supplies , ……nothing. we grow pears in Oregon that are shipped to china and processed into fruit cups and shipped back here . our nuke arsenal id half a century old, Who knows if any of it would work? Even if it would , the chain of command to pick the targets and light it off is probably like everything beauracratic , too convoluted and complex to to… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  miforest
2 years ago

Or they could release a bioweapon, but seriously this time.

Good ol' Rebel
Good ol' Rebel
Reply to  DLS
2 years ago

But why? The last one did $7 trillion in damage to our economy, killed literally hundreds of people, and they avoided blame so well that our own leaders threaten to sic the federal secret political police on anyone who even points the finger at China. If it works, keep doing it, right? A couple more WuFlus and we’ll be living in caves, wearing loin cloths and wondering how we will avoid the cannibals to catch our next meal.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Good ol' Rebel
2 years ago

Because it’s like drugs or porn. You have to keep upping the dose to get the same effect. People are not as likely to fall for Covid-19.2 as they are for Covid-19^2.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Good ol' Rebel
2 years ago

The bioweapon was a US product, Wuhan was merely one of the way-stations.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
2 years ago

In every democratic state we look at, with the exception with maybe Hungary, we have seen the conservative coalitions gets utterly routed in the political party system. It’s not just an American phenomenon, but global, and across very disparate cultures. Even Asian countries are beginning to submit to the poz. While a lot of that has to do with the cultural poison our country exports around the world, a lot more has to do with the rules of the game these societies agreed to, which massively tilts the scales towards radical egalitarianism. So far, the best example of a people… Read more »

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

“Irish Democracy” Quiet, anonymous, and often complicit, lawbreaking and disobedience may well be the historically preferred mode of political action for peasant and subaltern classes, for whom open defiance is too dangerous….One need not have an actual conspiracy to achieve the practical effects of a conspiracy. More regimes have been brought, piecemeal, to their knees by what was once called “Irish Democracy”—the silent, dogged resistance, withdrawal, and truculence of millions of ordinary people—than by revolutionary vanguards or rioting mobs. The premise behind “Irish Democracy” is that the State lacks the enforcement power to have its way with millions upon millions… Read more »

JohnWayne
JohnWayne
Reply to  mmack
2 years ago

“Quiet, anonymous, and often complicit, lawbreaking and disobedience may well be the historically preferred mode of political action for peasant and subaltern classes, for whom open defiance is too dangerous”

Quiet and anonymous? In a omnipresent surveillance state? F6I even urging kids to snitch on their own family. Keep wearing that mask!

Underground economy, lie a lot, be the gray man, keep your pockets full of nice gritty sand.

Pickle Rick
Pickle Rick
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

It’s a good thought, but you can’t go from First World Western culture to clan based muslim mountain people culture within a generation without centuries of living like muslim hillbillies, with all the past that made them that way. The reason they act as they do which made them able to outlast the British, Russians, and Globohomo in their turn to become the “Graveyard of Empires” can’t be transferred to an alien culture. In other words, you can’t go from Joe Normie CivNat to mujahedeen without skipping the steps to make him one. You can’t expect a man raised on… Read more »

Howard Beale
Howard Beale
Reply to  Pickle Rick
2 years ago

I’m not so sure. Yes, many wouldn’t adapt, but then again many would. There’s a lot of Appalachian (Scots-Irish) blood scattered across this land.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Pickle Rick
2 years ago

The question is whether enough of the passive resistors have the fortitude to withstand the predictable regime response of putting a few heads on pikes to scare everyone back into compliance.

Good ol' Rebel
Good ol' Rebel
Reply to  Pickle Rick
2 years ago

Then there’s Ho Chi Minh and the IRA. You can sometimes take farmers and shop workers and turn then into revolutionary guerrila armies.

Good ol' Rebel
Good ol' Rebel
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

The ANC’s “become ungovernable” thing from the 1980’s worked. No SA black paid rent, utilities, fines, or taxes, no black cop ever set foot outside the donut shop, everything a black was sent to repair mysteriously broke beyond repair, etc. – an interesting historical situation.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Good ol' Rebel
2 years ago

Nonsense. What broke SA was the sanctions. If you read the then alternative press the running joke was that there was no functional difference between them “working” or not.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

The problem with the Taliban model is that all the goat-fuckers are already in Congress.

Hi - Ya!
Hi - Ya!
Member
2 years ago

“voting is an insult”

Excellent description of what we are asked to do to be citizens. Its a humiliation. Like being force to erase a racist twitter post.

There is no faith in the vote.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Hi - Ya!
2 years ago

Speaking of:

Ms. Mayor of my town (Salt Lake) just announced to great fanfare that “Racism is a Public Health Crisis.”

The proof? Well, the Mexicans won’t get the vaccine. The blacks (all 5 of them in Utah) won’t get normal preventative checkups or screening.

This is, I quote, “bigotry”.

It’s so tiresome. Our ruling class hates us.

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  ProZNoV
2 years ago

Indeed. It’s all so tiresome. Most tedious. I was actually pretty worried about the whole ‘racism as a public health crisis’ on account of how loony things are now. This’ll gain some traction too, as GoodWhites make a desperate and sickening attempt to prove just how not racist they are.

Why can’t they just say ‘nigger’ and be done with it.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  OrangeFrog
2 years ago

Thanks OrangeFrog. I needed a good laugh today.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  OrangeFrog
2 years ago

[Gasps, clutches at pearls] 😀

Hi -Ya!
Hi -Ya!
Reply to  ProZNoV
2 years ago

Its madness. Its a mental defection, its an effeminate approach to reality, just do whats’ popular, and not whats true.

TBH, I think this is a punishment from God for the idol of money going back to the British Empire.

God punishes nation, not just individuals. This female driven and effeminate suicide we are experiencing as a more or less British people, is our punishment for abandoning religion for profits and liberalism (ie freedom and liberty)

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Hi -Ya!
2 years ago

“God punishes nation, not just individuals.”

Now I get what people mean when they say “we lost God.”

They mean we broke up the family. We ran off with some dark-haired stranger.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Hi -Ya!
2 years ago

The old God vs. Mammon (Money) parable.

It was, I believe, in the 19th century that a clergyman convinced the Gubmint* to put the motto “In God we trust” on most of our money. Surely the hope was to remind Americans of their Christian traditions.

But, irony though it may be: isn’t another way of looking at it, that we were now actually labeling our money as “God,” which was (and is) in fact the way many people treat it, as an Idol?

*I’m amused that this apparently is an acceptable word to the spell checker.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  ProZNoV
2 years ago

Why didn’t anyone within earshot feel comfortable laughing uproariously at such nonsense? Until they’re mocked for their beliefs – just as they’ve spent decades mocking ours, they’ll never even consider moderating their insanity.

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
2 years ago

Elements in the West propped up the USSR from beginning to end. Without Western food aid during the famine of 1921, the USSR would have collapsed then and there. Without western contractors building much of Stalin’s industrial infrastructure, the USSR would never have become a great power. Without lavish Lend-Lease aid, the USSR would have lost the war to Hitler. Detante gave the Soviets an extra 20 years or so of life. And, had the Left had control of the White House in the 1980’s, I have no doubt that the US would have bailed Gorbachev out, and we would… Read more »

Hi -Ya!
Hi -Ya!
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

By financalization, do you mean the focus on the economy as the defiining principle of the country, vs the poulation?p

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Hi -Ya!
2 years ago

I understand “financialization” to mean switching from an economy based on manufacturing and production to one based upon providing mainly financial services such as lending, stock trading, etc.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  c matt
2 years ago

Basically the bullshit economy we have now. Running scams, screwing over the lower classes while a tiny group becomes super rich. privatizing everything, etc.

It’s a tiny hat specialty

Were it not for our military force projection, control of SWIFT and the massive global finance transaction centers (DTCC) We’d be viewrf as a 3rd world state given that we no longer can produce even basics like vitamins medicine, and clothes for our people.

Crabe-Tambour
Crabe-Tambour
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

You mean–hypothetically–not Our Greatest Ally?…Oh, right!

Basil Ransom
Basil Ransom
Reply to  Altitude Zero
2 years ago

100% correct. Russian commentators who say that the USSR was a Western creation are right. After all, Lenin cruised into the Finland Station with a fair amount of German gold in his pocket courtesy of the Kaiser’s general staff. If Sutton is to be believed, Trotsky had Wall Street money paying his way back to Russia in order to make mischief. When you’re bankrolled like that, you’ve got a fighting chance. Every revolution for the past two hundred years has required some way of financing it. The problem for the DR is that nobody has our back. All we can… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Altitude Zero
2 years ago

This is starting to rhyme with “offshoring to China”. We occupied Japan, Okinawa, the Philipines- the Pacific Shield- but we abandoned China. Had we walked in and brought some safe haven, along the colonial model, amongst the warlords, we could’ve had containment and that American Pax Imperium, with the UN being an administrative appendage. A NATO of the East, and Third World Communism would’ve died on the vine. We sought Naval control of the sea routes, but gave up the port. This, despite the fact that the Chinese elites were wearing spats, driving American cars, and dancing to jazz in… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 years ago

Afterthought: Asia could’ve been our new frontier, the Manifest Destiny. Russia and the Warsaw Pact would’ve demanded the lights come back on in Belgrade, Prague, and St. Petersburg.

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 years ago

Truman and George Marshall have a lot to answer for. When you add up the toll of Maoism, the Korean and Vietnam wars, the Cambodian genocide, Tibet, plus whatever nightmare is coming with regards to Taiwan, it’s staggering. The decision to cut off arms shipments to the Nationalists may have ended up costing eighty million lives, and counting. McCarthy was right…

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Altitude Zero
2 years ago

At least Marshall understood the dangers posed by creating a Jewish state in Palestine. When Truman recognized Israel behind his back, Marshall resigned. He was one of the few with personal dignity.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Altitude Zero
2 years ago

During WW2, the US shipped materials to the West Coast for eventual delivery to the USSR to avoid the German U-boat menace.

A lot of this material passed through a rail depot somewhere in Montana, IIRC.

There happened to be a US Army logistics officer who kept a detailed daily logbook of the materials that passed through.

The amounts he recorded bordered on the absurd.

One has to wonder if the Eastern Front would have gone the other way had those materials never been delivered.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

There are records of such deliveries and a I’ve seen them noted in writings on the war. I saw (IIRC) we sent Russia, 800k+ trucks for example. I’ve always suspected that the allies were purposely propping up Russia in order to bleed her white of man power. No country lost more men.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

Smart strategy. Let Russia eat it. we knew Stalin would never agree to a truce with the Germans and would n’t stop until he took Berlin.

Were we to fight Germany on our own. We would have had sign a truce at some point. D-Day would have never had happened.

Epaminondas
Epaminondas
Reply to  Rwc1963
2 years ago

This was Marshall’s strategy. He was the architect of victory. Although it doesn’t feel too much like a victory today.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Altitude Zero
2 years ago

To be fair, it’s impossible to predict how history will unfold. Perhaps we should just time travel back to April 1917 and mind our own damn business.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  DLS
2 years ago

It would have helped if we shot dead JP Morgan and shut down his banking empire and told the Limeys they were on their own. They had no business playing global empire when they were largely bankrupt at that point.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  DLS
2 years ago

Might as well go all the way back to 1619 and burn down the New York Times building.

But I would settle for going back to early ‘90’s to slap the blue pilled nice guy grin off my face.

With enough time in the old country and beef jerky for the road, I would happily take my datsun pickup, before the joggers stole it, and hit the road to do some brothers here a favor too.

Who knows what kind of butterfly effects we’d set loose in time.

La-Z-Man
La-Z-Man
Reply to  Altitude Zero
2 years ago

Don’t forget the Rolls Royce engines in the MiGs.