The Vision Of The Elites

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A feature of this age is lots of talk about the future, but not in the practical sense as was the case in the past. A century ago, industry would promise labor saving devices to make material life better for regular people. Today, the managerial elite talks about the future in vague terms, sometimes awful and sometimes glorious. In the future, we will go about in self-driving electric cars, unless Gaia burns creation to a crisp over the use of fossil fuels and inappropriate pronouns.

The fact is the managerial elite does not speak in specifics about the future because they do not have a clear vision for it. The only thing they are sure of is they will be in charge of it and as such, it will need their constant attention. Like the members of a committee, the managerial class can only imagine the next meeting. The future is always more of them doing what it is that makes them possible. As a result, the future they work towards is more of an aesthetic than a real place.

For example, the long running war on manufacturing in the West is not about the practical issues related to making things. It is mostly about removing these things from the view of the managerial elite. Note that in the 20th century the corporate office moved from where actual work was done to a corporate campus. The manager did not want to hear, see and smell the work. Something similar is happening in Western society where work is moved to the periphery.

This was a big part of the drive to ship manufacturing to low cast places like Asia and South America in the last century. Business took the incentives to leave, but those incentives were created by the managerial elite. The refrigeration maker did not lobby for trade deals that would force him to move his plant to Mexico. Those trade deals were made and business responded. Those ugly eyesores were then removed from the sight of the people who manage the world.

Now that some of this is coming back onshore due to the trade wars, supply chain issues and other problems, those businesses get stuffed on the fringe. Not a single voice in the managerial elite calls for rebuilding cities by rebuilding their manufacturing base or even encouraging reshoring back to the cities. Instead, the reshoring is going on in exurban industrial parks hidden from the sight of the rulers. The plans for the city, real or imagined, do not include the laboring classes.

The global crisis is due in no small part to this sensibility. The reason the violent Trotsky cult called neoconservatism keeps insisting Russia is nothing by a big gas station run by peasants is it has to be for the Great Reset to work. In order for the EU to be the leisurely playground imagined by the managerial elite, it is needs lots of cheap energy products from Russia. That can only happen if Russia knows its place and operates a giant gas station staffed by peasants.

Similarly, China is supposed to be a giant industrial park staffed by disposable people who all look alike to the managerial elite. The things that make the world look ugly and smell bad, like making steel, batteries, solar panels and Apple products, need to be made and made cheaply, but who wants to see it being made? No one in the managerial elite, so it gets sent abroad. China’s place in the scheme is to be a giant industrial zone for peasants to make cheap consumer goods.

Agriculture is coming under the same pressure. The push to end the growing of food in Western countries looks like madness. It is driven, however, by the same aesthetic that shipped manufacturing abroad. The beautiful people of the future do not want to think about how their food gets to their plate. Things like animal rights and bizarre dietary claims are just cover for an aversion to facing the reality of the food chain. They indulge these fads because they promise to hide the truth of life.

For European elites, this means food production gets shifted east to the Slavic lands and South to the MENA. In America, it means food production gets shifted south to Latin America and even China. This changing of the food supply is not better in a practical sense, but in an aesthetic sense. It is out of sight so therefore the managerial elite is not troubled by it. The corporate campus of the New World Order will be separate from the work that is required to maintain it.

The rise of the corporate campus in the last century was not driven by practical needs, but by the aesthetic of the people running the company. The guy who worked his way up from the bottom had been replaced by professional managers, trained at the best colleges and universities. The owners were now fund managers. This new breed of corporate manager did not want to be close to the work. In fact, she resented it as a reminder of why the business existed in the first place.

It is not unusual for the managers in a modern corporate office to not know how the company makes money. Few corporate managers have had a hand in making their products or delivering their service. The exception are the firms that work as middlemen in the new economy. Many managers work in areas that have no relationship to the business of the company. There is a physical and psychological gap between those who labor and those who facilitate labor.

Note that it is not always an economic gap. A hard working tradesman or a small businessman has a better material life than the corporate manager, but he lives in a different cultural, physical and psychological zone. The self-employed plumber with a couple of men working for him is not going to be playing golf with the assistant strategy director or the corporate success coach. These are people who do know one another or even know of each other’s existence.

This is the world the managerial elite is working toward. They do not need to know why plugging in the Tesla makes the red light inside turn green. They do not need to know how their soy latte came into being. The messy and unpleasant things about human existence have been moved off to the periphery. They just exist and no one needs think too much about how they work. The managerial class is liberated from the human condition because they no longer have to witness it.

This works fine as long as the bulk of Western people are fine being converted into a massive servant class, mingled in with foreigner imports. This works if Russia is happy to be a giant gas station run by peasants. As long as China is fine being an industrial park that makes no demands on management, it is all good. In other words, if the peasants never get any wild thoughts in their heads, the world imagined by the managerial elite is a glorious place.

It remains to be seen if such a world is possible. The Russians are not happy being a giant gas station run by peasants. The Chinese think their culture and civilization is more than a polluted industrial zone. Even the Indians seem to be tiring of their role as call center to the West. On the other hand, the managerial elite is smart and ruthless, mostly ruthless, so they cannot be discounted. These are people selected for their ability to impose their will on their host.

In the end, the future will be decided by who, not how. This may be the great flaw in the managerial system that has evolved to this point. A system that places all value on clever verbal tricks to control how things are done may not be much of a match for people who can actually do things. Baring some détente between the managerial elite and the rest of the world, like that which happened between labor and management in the 20th century, the crisis is headed for conflict.


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Peter Gent
Peter Gent
1 year ago

Re: Something similar is happening in Western society where work is moved to the periphery.
Tries to break one of God’s first commandments in Genesis 3:17 “By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground…”

Anonymous Fake
Anonymous Fake
1 year ago

People are actually NOT as out of touch as in the past. Imagine growing up in a deep blue city like Boston or San Francisco before the internet. Or an isolated fundamentalist Mormon colony in Idaho. Might as well be another planet. What we are seeing is people who did grow up in these environments, GenX and older Millennials, grow into political power, and people are more divided than ever because these cohorts are divided into those who adapted to the internet and those mentally stuck in their upbringing. Zoomers, like Boomers, see the past as a foreign country. They… Read more »

Longstreet
Longstreet
Reply to  Anonymous Fake
1 year ago

Not out of touch? The managerial state believes the Russians can manipulate the voters en masse even though cloud people control most of the media, tech, the entertainment industry, the HR of most big companies, most lawyers and judges, the government bureaucracies, and our schools. The cloud people think if they outsource pollution to China or Mexico, no pollution will happen. Should I go on? Okay, the cloud people think men can be women and women can be men and psychopaths are just misunderstood. Cloud people think the borders of Ukraine are sacred but our own borders are just a… Read more »

Mockingbird
Mockingbird
1 year ago

A good observation: the factories that are returning are going to the exurbs, not to urban renewal. I thought this was because of unions, black crime, urban decay and corrupt government. Of course these are all true; but perhaps they are just another effect of the Levant’s antipathy to machine labor.

Longstreet
Longstreet
Reply to  Mockingbird
1 year ago

Z said, “ the crisis is headed for conflict.” America defeated Germany and Japan because we could make stuff faster than our enemies, by orders of magnitude. Now that that we have hollowed out our manufacturing base, i would bet on us.

Never mind that we’ve feminized a lot of males.

WCiv911
WCiv911
Reply to  Longstreet
1 year ago

Our military can no longer recruit enough cannon fodder to fight its wars. Who wants to fight for lies, injustice, and the new, immoral, woke, anti-white American way?

Severian
1 year ago

One aspect of the worker / management conflict from the turn of the 20th century that bears close examination is the “work to rule” “strike.” “Strike” in quotation marks, because it’s not a strike. The workers are still doing their jobs. They’re just doing them exactly as the regulations specify… no more, no less. That’s what baffled me about those trucker convoys — they could’ve been infinitely more effective by simply following all the stupid transportation regulations to the letter. Or imagine what would happen if some terrible no-good refuseniks decided to drive *exactly* the speed limit during rush hour… Read more »

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Severian
1 year ago

Sev,

I’ve been saying this “Quiet Quitting” trend is just Millennials and Gen-Zs discovering “Work to Rule”.

Work from 9-5
Don’t go above and beyond
Just do enough to not get fired.

I know that “Work to Rule” is easier for Union Workers since they have a book of work rules, but still . . .

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Severian
1 year ago

Indeed, some of the biggest air traffic delays were exactly that, following the FAA rules. I remember a flight out of Kennedy on Lufthansa to Frankfort in my younger years—three hours from gate departure to lift off simply by following the distance rule between take off’s and landings.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Severian
1 year ago

The best thing the truckers could have done was come down with Cv19 en masse and park for a month.

“Hey, we’re just trying to keep people safe…for the greater good, don’t ya know?”

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
1 year ago

Reality > aesthetics (which in fact are important) The skilled tradesmen among the Dirts serve the Clouds as much as the Managerial Elite. The former actually have value. I know who will be expected to eat bugs and live in pods first. As for offshoring food production, the window for that closed right along with the supply chain breaks for widgets. Even before the window closed, meat from Mexico and fruits and vegetables from Latin America had proved cost prohibitive and unreliable. That’s not to say they won’t try–they will–but it will fail as badly as cutting off oil and… Read more »

miforest
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

the owners are running an old scam on us . https://theamericansun.com/2022/09/12/a-nickel-for-your-thoughts/ the paper scam

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
1 year ago

We have dozens of bright, young, very well educated engineers in my firm. However they were brought up in schools where no one teaches them how their designs are actually turned into parts, which are sent to production halls where people assemble those parts to make things like toasters or automobiles. Most Gen-Zers have never even been on an production floor, let alone worked on one. So they have almost no knowledge of where the parts come from, where they go, or how they are put together to make the final product. Worse yet, they have no interest knowing what… Read more »

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
1 year ago

“Why? Because Gen-Zers have no interest in the factory beyond their CAD station in the same way they have no interest in the world beyond their smartphones.” My eldest brother was complaining about the same thing. He just recently retired from a 45+ year career as a machinist and engineer for a major farm and construction equipment manufacturer. He joined the firm after graduating high school and worked his way up with his hands and his smarts 🧠. Oh, mom was upset her eldest boy didn’t go to College to get him some proper knowledge. Anyhow, most of his career… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
1 year ago

It’s funny you mention CAD (Computer-Aided Drafting (or Design)) since I’ve recently begun teaching myself a program called FreeCAD.

I’m struck how the approach to drafting has changed over the years.

In FreeCAD, there is very little traditional drafting. Rather, the approach is centered around defining a series of geometric primitives by typing them into the Python (programming/scripting language) interpreter to eventually form an object.

It appears commercial packages like AutoDesk Fusion use a similar approach. I find it quite cold and mechanical. Perhaps that is the point of this approach.

Vegetius
Vegetius
1 year ago

You should talk to our man in Tyneside about this, in particular the aesthetic angle. I can’t remember you all ever doing anything. Maybe also get him to broker a cease-fire/yule truce with the admittedly beyond-the-pale Woes.

Mike
Mike
1 year ago

In Friday’s replies I threatened to join Freerepublic to piss off some of their Ukrainian fanboys by asking them for a job as a troll. I jouned and found a thread on which to post. It was a low-rent masterpiece which went to moderation and got me banned. It’s point of honor that I’m likely the fastest ban ever on that forum. They are the prototypical civ-nat website, talk and talk all the while preserving nothing and never trying to win. People like them are just as much our enemies as the progs. The water gets hotter and hotter and… Read more »

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
1 year ago

IF a couple of the railroad unions go on strike this weekend and / or IF the ILWU (west coast port labor) goes on strike due to no new contact – the interest in how something gets made may not increase, but how it gets (or doesn’t get) to where Elite class can actually consume it – interest in dirt people’s labor will increase dramatically.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
1 year ago

I imagine that firms like Gulfstream and Lear have dozens and dozens of small, single-source vendors embedded in the bills-of-material for their aircraft.

“For want of a nail….”

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

DC might be the perfect Cloud People city. It’s pretty much devoid of any history of heavy industry. It’s been a Cloud People only city for more or less the beginning.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

If you notice, the cloud people generally spread out from DC in every direction except toward Baltimore.

Steve W
Steve W
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

It’s sad. Tubman DF used to be, as a city, a kind of joke, surrounded as it was by the farms and little towns of Virginia and Maryland; a muggy southern town, culturally laughable when compared to the urban powerhouses of the pre-GAE America – Philadelphia, New York, Detroit, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, St Louis, and so on. Then, WW2 happened, our managerial elite became self-aware as a hive, broke containment, and spread out over vast swaths of the lovely countryside around them. In 1940 there were active dairy farms in what is now Rosslyn and Pentagon City, on the VA… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Steve W
1 year ago

It expands as the wealth is sucked in fro the rest of the country.

Anon
Anon
Reply to  Steve W
1 year ago

Leesburg was pretty close to my hometown. I dont even go back because its so awful. Somehow the cloud decided my nice little southern town needed to be a.mumbai suburb.

Ploppy
Ploppy
1 year ago

Both posts got me thinking about class resentment against the managers, and one way they are able to keep themselves out of the guillotines is by controlling class resentment and redirecting it towards the middle class. Those hordes of feral negroes looting and murdering for “racial justice” never quite seem to make it into the actual wealthy neighborhoods, they never end up in a corporate boardroom smashing all the expensive furniture, in fact the only police response during the initial riot over Saint Floyd was to protect the CNN building. They didn’t even protect their own police stations. It’s functionally… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ploppy
1 year ago

I don’t think the average nuggra is smart enough to make a distinction between Mike Brown trying to keep his hardware store afloat against the likes of Home Depot, and Kaden Poindexter coding for Microsoft. All he sees is whi peepo and he knows day be rayciss.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

I’m not sure how it could be accomplished but assuming that blacks operate on a simple “Hate whitey” logic, it should be possible to direct them towards enemy white neighborhoods. The expensive neighborhoods with those “In this house we believe” signs.

If the horde starts hitting the champagne liberals too much, at the very least it will discourage the elites from further empowering orcs.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ploppy
1 year ago

And it would make all of us flat out bust from satisfaction.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ploppy
1 year ago

Blacks don’t operate that way. They’re too smart or too cowardly, take your pick. Blacks gang up on Whitey. They overwhelm and pick off the one or two they can catch alone. They are never naive enough to go into a White neighborhood, even in force. They know Whites have guns and they know how to them. Too many unknowns for them,in such an environment. Rioting in a business area—sans Koreans—is another story. Those areas will not be protected.

Gedeon
Gedeon
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

BLM has a black veneer, ahem, skin. It’s just ((communists)) running a deflection narrative.

Domin Schwab
Domin Schwab
1 year ago

“In ten years Rossum’s Universal Robots will produce so much corn, so much cloth, so much everything, that things will be practically without price”

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Domin Schwab
1 year ago

Dream on. Never happen. Robots are not free. The materials used in manufacture are not free. The materials made will not be free either because the robot owners want to make a profit.

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

He’s quoting a science fiction book. Hence the quotes.

trackback
1 year ago

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Apex Predator
Apex Predator
1 year ago

Nothing new under the sun. We are simply on the way to Nu-Feudalism but its writ much larger in the globalized age. Whereas the serfs & peasants still had to live on the periphery of the Lord’s estate or the Baron’s lands this is no longer the case. So now the lord of the manor or the main in the high castle does not even have to be undignified by riding through the dirty fields and observing the peasants while on his way to the next political meeting or fancy ball. He simply needn’t acknowledge they even exist, out of… Read more »

Chazz
Chazz
1 year ago

It came over us in waves. Early on was the flood of MBAs. Often wrong, but never in doubt, they always managed to move on before the consequences of their actions trickled down to the income statement. The next wave was Harassment. Starting out as justified outrage at demands for sexual favors in exchange for continued employment it quickly metastasized into shakedowns for Wanda’s alleged unhappiness. Then the Self-Esteem fad infected the schools. When these the entitlement attitudes showed up in the workplace, tort law flourished. Today we have fascination with human biology. Gotta be first with a female CEO!… Read more »

Götterdamn-it-all
Götterdamn-it-all
Reply to  Chazz
1 year ago

Just wait till your local hospital starts moaning about the lack of diversity among its staff of surgeons.

Xin Loi
Xin Loi
Reply to  Götterdamn-it-all
1 year ago

It will be a while, because the Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) has just gone all in on More Blacks in Medical School v. 2.0. I was a student during v. 1.0, which could not and so did not last (since they still gave grades and it was possible to flunk out). But the THEORETICAL work on White Supremacy has made great strides since then, so this next cohort will move through the system with ease (knowledge, studiousness, and deductive ability being marks of WS, they are all gonna have to go). It will take years for all the… Read more »

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Chazz
1 year ago

“Now United Airlines has said they will only hire Negro pilots.”

They’re going to need a lot of magic crow feathers.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ploppy
1 year ago

They are going to need to lower their proficiency requirements—same as for surgeons. And by such, there will be fatalities.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

There will be fatalities among the Dirts who can’t avoid Drs. LaNaw’zha and Rec’Tumius. The Clouds will get to stick with Drs. Finkelstein and Lipschitz.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

fatalities? Nah, we’ll just quietly reduce the pilot to a purely decorative role and the plane’s AI will deal with anything serious that comes up. It’ll be the reverse of the situation in the past where you could let the AI fly the plane most of the time but the human pilot intervened when something crazy was happening. In the Glorious Future, they’ll have the negro pilot at the controls when the plane is cruising in fair weather (and be sure to get lots of propaganda video of this). When landing during a microburst accompanied by a hailstorm, that’s when… Read more »

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Pozymandias
1 year ago

“Nah, we’ll just quietly reduce the pilot to a purely decorative role and the plane’s AI will deal with anything serious that comes up. It’ll be the reverse of the situation in the past where you could let the AI fly the plane most of the time but the human pilot intervened when something crazy was happening.” It’s like the old joke about the automated cockpit of the future. It’s a computer 💻, a pilot 👨🏻‍✈️, and a dog 🐶. The computer is programmed to fly the plane ✈️. The dog bites the pilot if he tries to touch the… Read more »

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Pozymandias
1 year ago

Posy

Telling your neighbor the truth about (fill in the blank), is like telling a child there is no Santa.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Pozymandias
1 year ago

In 1981 Donald Fagen wrote these lyrics – about a boy’s vision of the future during the late 50’s. If, after 65 years, it’s not here yet, I wonder whether it’s going to be attainable at all during the next couple centuries.

On that train, all graphite and glitter
Undersea by rail
Ninety minutes from New York to Paris
(More leisure for artists everywhere)

A just machine to make big decisions
Programmed by fellas with compassion and vision
We’ll be clean when their work is done
We’ll be eternally free, yes, and eternally young

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Pozymandias
1 year ago

Pozy. Seems you’ve been away for a few years? You heard of the 737 grounding after two crashes for a rewrite of the software? Exactly a failure of what you stated would be the saving grace for low level ability pilots. Boeing seemed to not make their plane “damn foolproof”.

Yep, the planes had a magic “button” for take off and landing, but when the conditions were right, the takeoff turned to s**t and the pilots were not able to correct. Turd world airline pilots crashed, yet reports of American pilots surviving the same failure situation.

Gedeon
Gedeon
Reply to  Chazz
1 year ago

HP’s profits were concentrated in its ink cartridges. Carly Fiorina did not do that. More than anything, I think Dell and the commodity PC happened to HP. HP was trying to engineer all of the individual components at the highest level of excellence while Dell was giving buyers all of the choices and charging them to assemble it- and bypassing the retail distribution system to cut costs.

I worked at HP in the 90s and have insider experience of some of the above.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Chazz
1 year ago

It jut a forced replacement of whites in every institutionl pisition.

People whine about the lack of standards blah, blah.

The real goal is that blacks and women will occupy every position i society that matters, even if they become useless in the same way they did with teachers.

Its the same playbook. They don’t care about the impact, its just about to remove you.

That no one recognizes this is why there is never, ever going to be any pushback. Its happening now and all whites do is whine about the symptoms while accepting the humiliation.

PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
1 year ago

Was thinking something of this sort as I sat in a VA waiting room the other day. Every waiting area now sports a television on continuous loop playing endless videos of VA upper staff and management talking about the topics discussed in the swirl of meetings and conferences that make up the working life of the people who run this massive organization. I never see anyone looking at them, but the background noise is ever present. The difference between those on the screens and the patient base could not be more stark. The screen I focused in on had four… Read more »

PrimiPilus
PrimiPilus
Reply to  PrimiPilus
1 year ago

NOTE: I worked at a VA Regional Medical Center, not Big-VA. And I will say that I still find committed and high quality medical providers and support personnel working in the clinics (as well as some time-servers). Many of them trudge away in the trenches, providing good care to a largely poorer and underserved population. These people themselves feel some alienation from the administrative sorts who spend their careers isolated from those they exist to serve.

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  PrimiPilus
1 year ago

To PrimiPilus… All of these phenomena are associated with Passive Aggressive Personality Disorder, Social Ladder Climbing***, and collapsing Total Fertility Rates. On our current trajectory, the younger readers here chez Z will live to judge the quality of Adam Smith’s clairvoyance: “There is a great deal of ruin in a nation.” On our current trajectory. We’ll see whether any other possible trajectories might arise in the meantime. I do want to agree with you that, for decades now, there has been a very strong psychological disconnect between the kinds of personalities which provide front-line hands-on medical care [to actual flesh… Read more »

Bourbon
Bourbon
Reply to  Bourbon
1 year ago

At Anglin’s place today, Snake Baker has an article claiming that the Brahmin now own more property in London than do the native English.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  PrimiPilus
1 year ago

“And as I watched this particular presentation, I realized it was something probably comprehensible or of interest only to other cubicle-bound, conference scheduling members of the administrative structure there. A pretty good example for me of our host’s point today.”

It’s like how commercials have morphed from extolling the virtues of your product or service to virtue signaling or angling to win a Clio award. The ad isn’t for you or the customer, it’s for the creative people (cue the Stonetoss cartoon where the punchline is “Burgers?”).

Mycale
Mycale
1 year ago

For a long time, I wondered why it is that Americans have such a big blind spot about this. If our emission statistics are pleasing to Gaia, and they are down over the decades, it is because we let other places sin against Gaia long ago. You can go to virtually any city in the USA, but especially ones in the Northeast and Rust Belt, and see the old buildings where stuff was once made in this country. They are either abandoned or turned into trendy lofts, but they used to employ hundreds and thousands of people, making stuff that… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

There is at least one man-made lake in Mongolia filled with the black waters left over from the rare earth ore extraction process:

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/toxic-lake-black-sludge-result-mining-create-tech/story?id=30122911

Since it’s in Mongolia, no one in the GAE cares as long as they can have their fleets of Teslas and forests of GE wind turbines.

Greatvampire
1 year ago

There are ways to throw wrenches in the process of leadership leading the sheep. You could, for instance, bar all lawyers from entering the political process. Technically, this would be a violation of their rights, but it is lawyers who make up the majority of the public ruling class. An infusion of fresh blood would result if the legal nitterers were removed. In addition, you could limit politicians to two terms max. no matter how high their position. Entrenched leaders are more likely to do corrupt things, including courting corporations for the money to run for office the next time.… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Greatvampire
1 year ago

Greatvampire: “I know, I know!!! Let’s tinker around the edges and add a few more rules and restrictions and the system will work just fine, as intended!!”

My response: Mushroom cloud, please.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
1 year ago

The managerial elite does have one product that it specializes in. Pro forma income.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 year ago

And that’s about it..This essay is very insightful, but the “elites” are going to come a-cropper because they refuse to acknowledge that, in fact, they are useless and the law of diminishing returns is going to eliminate the surplus that they are currently skimming off…

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

They never give a moments’ thought to their liberal mindsets. In their minds, tanks won’t cross borders goods cross. No amount of reality can ever interfere with this liberal truism. Tanks replaced goods on the Ukraine-Russia border, but only because Putin is Hitler and Hitler is irrational. Importing all your food is a great so long as you ship them awful cultural products like movies, music, websites and US Dollars. Starvation simply cannot happen.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

While any number of examples of the disconnect between the imagined reality of the Cloud people vs. the gritty reality of the Dirt, I submit this one: You know those shiny electric cars (EV) that are part of the solution to all our energy and environmental problems, and eventually we will completely eliminate those evil fossil fuels spewing carbon dioxide that may yet change our climate so we all bake to death, despite our most valiant efforts? Well, it turns out that the battery is a sore point. Seems that they cannot be made without Lithium. In and of itself,… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

Last week the state of California was sending text messages to everyone with a cell phone demanding they save energy or there would be blackouts. Earlier in the summer there were a bunch of articles claiming rolling blackouts could happen across the US. To this they want to add 370 million gallons of gasoline a day electric equivalent to this load.

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

You say this like their goal is to replace all cars with EVs. They do not. They want to make cars a luxury item, as they do flying. The idea of a peasant with their own freedom of movement is an anathema to them. No, they will demand you either take public transportation or one of their centrally provided, autonomous vehicles. Their systems will determine where and when you can go. If you step out of line or complain about the vibrancy of the glorious PT system, you will lose your access to the autonomous fleet. The things you need… Read more »

NoOneAtAll
NoOneAtAll
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

Most white people will never take public transportation in any major city in the country with America’s typically third world demographics.

Even if you *wanted* to the average person would be dead and/or raped within a year if they dont go full Bernie Goetz (which gentiles will never be allowed)

This gets to the category of things that no amount of media brainwashing can paper over. Hard system limitation there.

miforest
Member
Reply to  NoOneAtAll
1 year ago

they will once they have no cars. gas cars banned and electrics well into six figures to buy, and more than they make to charge.

https://theamericansun.com/2022/09/12/a-nickel-for-your-thoughts/

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  NoOneAtAll
1 year ago

How many Whites are killed by vibrants on a weekly basis in this country? It happens all the time, the media just covers it up. Even if the attack is particularly egregious and cannot be memoryholed by the major papers (like the Waukesha parade), it follows a basic pattern. One, report on it in the most perfunctory and bland manner possible. Two, claim the victim akshully was mentally ill despite all his anti-White screeds on Facebook, it cannot possibly be a hate crime. Two, express concern for the well-being of “minority communities” who may suffer from “hatred” in “retaliation.” Three,… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Mycale
1 year ago

They are going to sacrifice.

They are going to sacrifice you and its going to be on a Ziggurat.

NoOneAtAll
NoOneAtAll
Reply to  trumpton
1 year ago

Yeah of course they’d LIKE TO but they dont have the MEANS TO. They’d like to machine gun every serious white church congregation this weekend but they dont have any practical way of going about it without unacceptable consequences for themselves. These people are malign but theyre not all powerful. If whites of different social classes were forced on negro mass transport in large numbers there would be so many incidents that there would be a prison style defacto race war in a week. This would force white group consciousness and even militant organization. The same thing would have happened… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  trumpton
1 year ago

@NoOneAtAll

It is happening now. The population has already been sacrificed without them noticing and is just bleeding out.

Did you miss the 20% of school age identifying as homos?

Or the forced acceptance of trannies and diversity training in every work place?

I could make this list as long as I wanted to keep typing.. but you get the point.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

The move to electric cars has nothing to do with “climate change” or trying to make the environment better. These scum bags know that it is all a lie. It is just another scam to separate the working class whites from their money in the form of a tax. It’s the same as every government initiative. Whether it’s health care, the environment or jobs, it is always a lie. None of it actually improves the lives of Americans or eases the burden on working class people. Shut up, pay the tax and eat your bugs, bigot. Pointing out the flaws… Read more »

Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

I think there is an extension to this… They know there will never be a fleet of 20 million electric cars. But what there might be are a few million either operated as rideshares or as autonomous vehicles that can be controlled remotely and owned/managed by big corp. So, outlaw ICE vehicles, force centrally controlled EVs which you can subscribe to or rent or book a ride. Lose your freedom to just go drive anywhere. And leave our rulers the power to ban the undesirables from the new transportation system – just as there’s a no-fly list, there will be… Read more »

NoOneAtAll
NoOneAtAll
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
1 year ago

It still cant work. The mileage people put on normal cars compressed to fewer centrally owner cars just isnt sustainable. Batteries are a very limited technology that are constantly degrading with use. There have been no major breakthroughs here and the physics seems to suggest there never can be.

A tesla being used 12 or 20 hours a day to ferry eveb managerial class workers to and fro is an explosive $100K paperweight in a year or two. These things arent toyotas or cuban taxis, theyre fundamentally a consumable product.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  NoOneAtAll
1 year ago

And still people fall back onto thinking they intend it to work.

As many others point out the goal is to have no cars at all for most.

Cars will be just the same as private jets.

miforest
Member
Reply to  NoOneAtAll
1 year ago

you will live in a pod near your work . yo will not travel much if at all.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

With electric prices surging in Europe, it now costs more to recharge an EV than to fill a car with gas in Norway.

EVs are going to be mandated, because just like bug-meat impossible burgers, no large customer base will ever exist.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

Lithium ignites in contact with water. A lithium battery is what, 2000 pounds?

So, in the spirit of St. Micheal Collins, were one to drive their perfectly innocuous EV into the secured basement parking garage beneath the certain building, park it amidst the other gov fleet EVs, and walk away…

On a workday. Not in one parking basement, but a thousand. Ten thousand. They’re mandating the means.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Take the caps and casing off a AAA lithium battery. Inside is a rolled tinfoil-like sheet of milled lithium in tissue paper.

Sprinkle water on it, it begins to smoulder. Then burn, as does magnesium. Sparky car fires are nearly inextinguishable.

Think creatively.
Oh, the humanity.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Saw a report about some Tesla that was in an accident and wound up in a stream. I think there was, indeed, an associated fire. Beyond that, first responders were scared shitless to approach it or try to extract it from this situation, because of the danger of electocution. No heroics with tow trucks or the Jaws of Life. Even if there were injured passengers, ain’t nobody going to risk themselves to try to save them. Seems as if that is the potential personal price for virtue signaling.

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

I receantly replaced lead acid batteries with lithium iron in our bank. They are much lighter in weight.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
1 year ago

Yep. The nature of evil is laziness: enjoying labor’s fruits without getting your hands dirty, shoveling manure, aching and plodding your way to bed to do it again. Labor keeps you honest. Making a living instead of taking you cut keeps you honest.

Imo what’s moral is coming to grips with life’s pains, fears, tragedies— embracing them, overcoming them, finding meaning in the overcoming. That takes will, and faith is an act of will. God is good and strong, Satan is the weakling and the deceiver. The original nerd lol.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

“Not a single voice in the managerial elite calls for rebuilding cities by rebuilding their manufacturing base or even encouraging reshoring back to the cities.” I don’t believe this will ever happen, even if the managerial elite got religion on making things again. Manufacturing was in the cities largely because it had to be. They were physically tied to the cities. They needed energy and especially electricity and natural gas. They needed access to the railroads. Most of all, cities were where the labor they needed lived. None of these things are true anymore and cities are notoriously expensive places,… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Although the causes are likely more complex, I would argue that at least in the USA’s case, major cities and their industry were destroyed to a large extent by the march of civil rights, especially the loss of the right of freedom of association. Having large numbers of Negroes from the South to work factory jobs might have been tolerable, but later when it was demanded your children had to go to school with their spawn, or that they could rent in your building, or buy a home in your community, well that was an entirely different matter.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
1 year ago

No doubt. Not to mention all the riots and all the damage they cause, much of which just never gets fixed. It’s true that the suburbs probably would have never been built to such an extent without the cities being emptied out by diversity.

Who was really nuked, Detroit or Nagasaki?

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

The power of the atomic bomb is no match for the destructive power of the American negro.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

The N-bomb is far deadlier than the H-bomb.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

I’m glad you mentioned railroads. It’s just another example of the elites’ fake environmental concerns, since freight trains are more efficient and environmentally-friendly than trucks at moving freight.

Gedeon
Gedeon
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

Get this. All of the “dollar” stores are supplied by over the road semis. The drivers of the semis ALSO have to empty these trucks at each store they deliver to. 10k+ packages per driver, per week, and drive everywhere in between.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

True, but civ is in the cities. If we want civ we’ll have to fix the cities. What other options to preserve our culture? Become warlike barbarians, gypsies, merchants, financiers? Being Conan has an appeal, but no thanks to all of that!

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

The cities need massive renovations and whole neighborhoods need rebuilding. The physical decay in the cities is hard to overstate. It’s not uncommon for a bridge, many of which go over abandoned railroad tracks, to be shut down and all the traffic permanently detoured down to the next block where the bridge is not in danger of falling (yet). We have important infrastructure built at the turn of the 20th century. We have a ton of sewage infrastructure built with hollowed out “pitched” logs. Sure, if we had the political will we could probably do it. But there is no… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
1 year ago

Yeah, huge job, looks impossible right now, but it’s that, become nomadic, or go the way of the dodo.

Re: building new cities, that’s possible, but there’s prime real estate going to waste.

End of the day, our ancestors built those cities in a wilderness populated by hostile natives. Isn’t that who we’re supposed to be? It’s in us, or should be.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

We built them, once. From scratch.

We can build them again, elsewhere.
The managerettes and their pets cannot.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

Not really. We could not build the cities from scratch today, at least not the way they were originally built. Most of the old buildings in the city are brick buildings. The interiors are 4×8 like 10-12 inches center with slat backed plaster walls and hardwood floors. That’s why they are still standing despite decades of neglect. Many of the streets are marble bricks or masonry bricks under the asphalt. They took hundreds of years to build.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 year ago

The human capital to do these things is long gone never to return. The high intellect, serious men of the prior century have been driven out of America. A new, feminine “man” who talks with a lisp, prefers the wrong privates and can’t start a lawnmower is all that remains. You are not rebuilding anything once we are all gone.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

I bet I could, and I bet there are enough who could also. Probably a whole bunch more who could if they had to.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

Well, if we want to build another Washington Cathedral, yeah we don’t have stone masons. Hell, we had to import them then.

However, we have more than enough folk to build the crap that constitutes a modern building. Perhaps not the quantity for a replacement of all cities, but enough for the major structure needed. Of course, if everything is destroyed, we’ll be slowed down for materials.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Paintersforms
1 year ago

We’ll have to build new cities–at least in the parts of AINO we control. We will never regain the cities occupied by the nuggras and the Leftists. And, at any rate, unlike European cities, those in AINO don’t house much in the way of civilization. New York is probably the lone exception. A great deal of priceless Western art will someday be incinerated.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 year ago

Not a problem. I can do without “Piss Christ”. OK, I’m being sarcastic. There’s lot of real art besides Andy Warhol‘s Soup Can I’d miss.

Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Nick Nolte's Mugshot
1 year ago

At least the beautiful people at the Apple campus in Cupertino don’t have to step around the blood and brain matter of the latest suicide being hosed off of the side walk like the slaves at Foxconn in China who actually make the iPhone.

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  Nick Nolte's Mugshot
1 year ago

“Designed in Palo Alto. I got mine, so $#@! everyone else in the supply chain.”

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Nick Nolte's Mugshot
1 year ago

Not fundamentally different from our separation from a meat producing slaughterhouse. Lot’s of gore, but what the hell, the product looks pretty tame on the dinner plate so eat away.

PeriheliusLux
PeriheliusLux
1 year ago

This is a very interesting theory.

The managers have a lot of tigers by the tail. Many seem at odds with and appetizing to one another. I keep dreaming of being in the theater in a safe seat when a Sigfreid and Roy moment happens. A Dirt Boy can dream.

Disruptor
Disruptor
1 year ago

It’s Siege warfare. Our people are being cut off from the means of survival. The intermediators cut into the supply lines and installed valves. They are cranking down. The hiders-in-the-cloud are now intermediating food and energy. Beef, for example, is being consolidated to a few big producers and outsourced to Africa and South America. Once all the livestock is cut off here, then the intermediators can control it. They will shut it off, the farms and ranches will be scooped away, the farmer’s livelihood cut off. Our food will be precarious. In Europe, they restricted energy supply, raising prices. But… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
1 year ago

It is because of articles like this that I get mad at cheerleaders for Ukraine. It doesn’t matter a bit whether Ukraine was unjustly invaded, or which country is more corrupt. The existential enemy of my people is the globalist managerial class, not Russia or Putin. If Russia fails, that makes the globalist managerial class stronger. And it’s not that they’ll be coming for me next. They’re already coming for me.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Vizzini
1 year ago

I am starting to come to the conclusion that the pattern of the war is intentionally to rub into people’s faces that you cannot challenge Globohomo and to build Ukraine into by far the largest and best equipped army in Europe. The war is intending ti create a new Germany, using the same imagery and financiers as the first. Russia is perhaps the last male oriented nation in Europe and the weird behavior by Putin in not really prosecuting the war, sitting on their small gains for months not attacking and still supplying their enemies with raw materials has intentionally… Read more »

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
1 year ago

“The guy who worked his way up from the bottom had been replaced by professional managers, trained at the best colleges and universities. The owners are now fund managers. This new breed of corporate manager did not want to be close to the work.” It’s the eloi/morlock divide. The USA alone churns out around 100,000 MBAs annually, with perhaps a smaller figure for Europe. These people can literally do anything — except make Powerpoint presentations and talk about “strategy” and “policy.” In countries that actually have an industrial base, the people in charge are engineers. Not MBAa and CPAs (or… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

Best thing for everyone in the long run if the USA cannot remain a world-straddling power, given who’s running the USA.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Arshad Ali
1 year ago

“I forget the title, but a book I read around 35 years back was examining the differences in corporate culture between Ford and Nissan.” The book you’re thinking of is The Reckoning. https://www.amazon.com/Reckoning-David-Halberstam/dp/0688048382 The auto business is one where you read about it and understand the phrase “They learned nothing and forgot nothing”. Exhibit A Chrysler, Exhibit B Ford. Right after The Reckoning Ford launched the Taurus and Sable and really revolutionized the sedan market with the aero look. Made a mint off the damned thing and it was the last American made sedan that outsold Honda and Toyota well… Read more »

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  mmack
1 year ago

Gracias, Senhor — yes, that was the title of the book.

Marko
Marko
1 year ago

I dunno…there’s an inner managerial class and an outer managerial class. The outer managerial class (maybe 80% of the MC?) doesn’t know why the green light goes on in their Tesla, or how cow turns into a ribeye on their plate. All they do is pass along the inner MC’s wants to the proletariat, like a living consent manufacturer, and also do the day-to-day managing of the peasants from their lofty perches. I do think the inner MC is well-aware of how cow turns to ribeye. Financial titans know a lot about the supply chain. I’ll bet the likes of… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

Marko: I seriously doubt Klaus Schwab follows the details of commercial farming. And your outer and inner MC have both been buying overseas and domestic bunkers and land for the past 5 years at a breakneck pace. Find someone senior – genuinely moneyed and senior – in your own company or employer – and I guarantee they’ve privately bought land or set up a potential bug-out home. My husband isn’t managerial, and not until we bought land (and he started sharing info about it at work) did we learn just how much and when and where his bosses had all… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

“My husband isn’t managerial, and not until we bought land (and he started sharing info about it at work) did we learn just how much and when and where his bosses had all done so some years before.”

What we now refer to as “boltholes” were called “summer houses” in our lifetimes. The difference being, of course, you did return to the winter house after the temperatures changed.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Jack Dobson
1 year ago

Jack: Oh, I knew (and worked for) some extremely wealthy people during college, who had genuine ‘summer houses’ (and maids summoned with a little bell, etc.). No, my husband’s bosses didn’t come from money and they haven’t bought coastal cottages or high rises on the beach. They’ve bought rural land, had wells put in, etc. These could be considered ‘retirement homes’ but they are no doubt intended to do dual duty.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

“These could be considered ‘retirement homes’ but they are no doubt intended to do dual duty.”

Mainly one duty.

Watch what people do more than listen to what they say. This is a fine example. Glad to read about the wells, by the way. It surprises me that there are people doing the right things, mostly, and still believing even small town municipal water sources will not be targeted or work.

PeriheliusLux
PeriheliusLux
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

I think Marko is really on to something here. This kind of analysis of tiers and roles is important. I have a hunch that 10% is way too generous. I think that percentage is probably far smaller than that, and because of education and urban/suburban child rearing environments it keeps shrinking with retirement and die off. I get why the 98% are in on this. They would chant pro-white, anti multi-culti bromides between barrages of business bingo while they pat their bellies and pant-hoot for promotions if that was the path to the next strata of cloud. I don’t get… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Marko
1 year ago

Exactly. I don’t think of the Clouds as interchangable with the Managerial Class, who are the help when it is all said and done. The Clouds will assess the safety and stability of wholesale social upheaval and tell the Managerial Class whether to be for it or against it. I also agree with you about watching for the Gulfstreams taking off. That means even opposition to social upheaval has become pointless, and the Managerial Elite will be chanting the latest slogans and positions while the savages approach and as Klaus and the gang fly off into the Wild Blue Yonder.

Robert
Robert
1 year ago

Even managerial elite wannabes carry water for this agenda. Steve Sailer has been pushing every element of the Narrative, whether it’s covid lockdowns or attacking Russia.

It’s been very disappointing. I always wonder if these guys are getting something under the table, but I guess that’s crazy.

A Strange Place
A Strange Place
Reply to  Robert
1 year ago

What they get is being mentally part of the Cloud People, even if it’s unlikely that they’d really be admitted to it IRL. I alas feel like I understand the Steve Sailer view because I was him for a very short while. What the Cloud People have had to their advantage until now, particularly with the Western Boomer generation, is a low bar of what it meant to be a hopeful into their society. A democratic oriented society where the even the ultra rich wear blue jeans/yoga pants/Old Navy/awful peasant clothes. A fad of democratic society helps with idea that… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  A Strange Place
1 year ago

A Strange Place: A common theme of SHTF fiction is former movie or music ‘stars’ having the tables turned on them by their hired security and servant class. My own fantasy involves eliminating the White pilots and bodyguards who transport and guard the self-styled nogger elite. Let them be forced to utilize their fabled talented tenth – for flying, medical treatment, and security.

Melissa
Melissa
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

Sounds great. Add to that fantasy the rule that the likes of Bill Kristol, Jennifer Rubin, Tim Wise, etc. are forced to fly in planes flown by two Haitian women pilots.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

I share this fantasy as well. If nothing else, it would be amusing to watch them squirm as they’re about to require the services of a “heart surgeon” who never had to take the MCAT, or a pilot who never had to pass the simulator hours due to “equity”.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  A Strange Place
1 year ago

I disagree. The problem with a lot of “dissidents” is they are dissidents on one or two issues. They just believe “the system” needs a few tweaks here and there, but that it is largely a great system. if any of these guys were offered a column at The Times, but just had to drop the pro-White angle, they’d do it in a second.

NoOneAtAll
NoOneAtAll
Reply to  Robert
1 year ago

Steve Sailer is a spiritual bugman who understood the graphs in the Bell Curve. There’s much more to being a dissident than knowing group IQ stats though.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  NoOneAtAll
1 year ago

Sailer is an old-school civic nationalist and, frankly, a liberal at heart. He has the same ideology as Charles Murray. HBD-aware, but completely against any form of group identity – especially white group identity.

Sailer isn’t pro-white. He’s just anti-anti-white, but believes that whites should never think of themselves as a group, much less organize and fight back.

He’s ultimately a fool.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
1 year ago

So he is anti-white then.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Robert
1 year ago

Sailer’s been hugely disappointing in his most recent Ukraine posts.

On top of that, it looks like there are a couple Langley trolls and an entire squad from Our Greatest Ally’s Internet Defense Force running amok in the comments on those posts.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Robert
1 year ago

Sailer has always wanted to be a part of the pundit class. He craves their approval, much like Murray.

In essence, he wants a seat at the managerial class table. We want to overturn the table.

Steve also seems to care very little for white dirt people. You’ll notice that he never shuts up about black murder rates or traffic accidents but rarely writes the opioid epidemic or the loss of manufacturing jobs. At least Murray occasionally writes about blue collar whites. They don’t seem to exist much for Sailer.

Memebro
Memebro
1 year ago

I’m not much on reading books written in the last 25-30 years, I prefer the classics, but “The Hunger Games” might prove to be the George Orwell tier of our times. My son read THG for a middle school assignment last year. I’m sure Suzanne Collins, the author, is someone who minds her pronouns, but she really did envision a dystopian future that aligns with where things appear to be headed. Dirt people and cloud people, with the cloud people all living in their degenerate urban center, far removed from the areas where dirt people (red states) exist only to… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Memebro
1 year ago

Perhaps a better movie—wonderfully campy—was Zardoz with Sean Connery—who wore a tight bikini bottom through the movie. 😉 The elites lived forever in an enclosed city while those outside lived the harsh life of medieval surfs essentially. Food and supplies needed were all requisitioned from the surfs. The elites grew bored of everlasting life and finally Connery led a small group of renegades who solved the elites’ problem, by wholesale massacre. If I recall correctly, with the elites pretty much welcoming it.

Ede Wolf
Ede Wolf
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

The elites in Zardoz even have a depopulation agenda:

“To kill the Brutals who multiply and are legion!”

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Memebro
1 year ago

The book I think predicted our future is old enough to be well-written: The Penultimate Truth (1964) by Philip K Dick. In it the elite *pretend* the world is being endlessly ravaged by nuclear war and force the people to live in isolated underground bunkers forever, doing dirt work for the war effort and watching TV. In reality the above-ground world has been turned into a nature park where managers own estates the size of Vermont.

Boris
1 year ago

We’re all about to see just how the real, industrial world operates (or rather doesn’t) if the pending railroad strike is not averted by Friday. You can’t tell me that the feds can’t step in and “make” the unions and corporate railroad elite come to a compromise. Even a few days of no rail service would cripple the supply chains for months. Maybe that’s the idea? Major cities depend on caustic soda and chlorine deliveries by rail for their municipal water supply. And good buy to chicken, beef, and pork. Again, most of the animal feed in this country (corn… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Boris
1 year ago

The rail system is remarkably vulnerable to disruption. A few dozen backhoes visiting strategic locations around the country….

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Vizzini
1 year ago

Vizzini: So, too, is our electrical grid. And municipal water supplies. And the farm-to-table food chain. The organized supply chain providing the ‘necessities’ of modern industrial life are made possible by the ingenuity and cooperation of hard-working men. Those men are dying off or wisely dropping out. Those who neither expect nor prepare for active disruption or passive breakdown are fools.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

The US is a 3rd world shithole now. Who knew that importing millions of low IQ, black orcs would make the country a 3rd world shithole? Yes – for all of recorded history, these low IQ retards made their countries abysmal wastelands, but importing them onto the magic dirt will somehow make our country better and will make them adopt our culture and work ethic.

This is why all of our systems are doomed to fail. Diversity is our greatest strength! There are no more serious, competent people to run those systems.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Tired Citizen
1 year ago

The one bright spot in the rapidly plummeting quality of human capital is that it should prevent the global digital control grid from being realized.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
1 year ago

3g4me. So are communications links. A few years ago there was a video from a group of hikers in the Rockies who uncovered the large fiber cables feeding the West coast. Such was the care to protect and conceal. I have some experience here from my early days in telecommunications seeing maps of the East to West coast runs and drop offs. One which was to run directly to our university. Big deal in those days because fiber was the fastest communication link available for the Internet. Of course, the university wanted a Gigabit link into and out of the… Read more »

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

The new server farm near my leafy suburban paradise is HARD:
1. Dedicated on-site gas-fired turbines ,
2. Main power is a rural based, nuclear-backed, grid,
3. Facility is built like a fortress. No ground or second story windows. HVAC systems behind 15 foot walls, and,
4. Effectively zero staff.

TBoone
TBoone
1 year ago

The GasStation peasants went and shut off about 50% of the ‘lights’ in Ukraine overnight. Then sent out their strategic bombers. But not Keev. Not yet. Wonder if the managerial Ee_leetch will notice a disturbance in their force.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  TBoone
1 year ago

Really should’ve done this on day one. Like the US does when it wages war.

Imagine the chaos the US military would have to deal with if you killed the power grid in, say, NYC, Lagos on the Chesapeake, Philly, etc.

No power = no water, no lights, no internet, no telecommunications, no food distribution, no money, etc.. It would be medieval inside of a week.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  ProZNoV
1 year ago

It wouldn’t take a week. The assorted vibrants would go feral in a day.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Hoagie
1 year ago

For that all you would need to do is turn off the EBT cards for a day or two. That would be quite the spectacle.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  ProZNoV
1 year ago

I tend to believe that Putin-Hitler wanted to remain friendly with the Ukraine people and was thinking more towards “postwar” peace and public relations when he should have been thinking about winning the damn war. Noe he has the worse of both worlds. After Vietnam, our military came up with some postwar doctrine. One precept… if a war is to be started, then go to it with overwhelming might. That is to say, give it all you’ve got from the get go. We saw this during Gulf War I. Bush the elder put 500k soldiers on Iraq’s doorstep—just in case.… Read more »

WJ
WJ
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Bush 1 stopped destroying the Iraqi army because he wanted to leave someone to deal with Iran. He also had no allies in the Arab world that would have gone along with him invading Iraq. Even though the American people had been fed the hogwash of babies tossed out of incubators, they still didn’t want to own Iraq. It turns out we would have been better off leaving Saddam alone. We wouldn’t have put US troops in Saudi which was the stated reason that OBL attacked us on 9/11. Both Bushes were miserable failures and my truly biggest regret is… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  WJ
1 year ago

That is the official line. But the official line is simply a convenient post nod coverup/excuse for decisions made at that time, which turned out to be a failure of foreign policy within a few short years. The US has never given a crap what anybody says or thinks when they have the whip hand. To get back to your exculpatory “explanation”, Bush the Lessor was pilloried from every country in the world when sought pretext to invade Iraq and remove Saddam Insane in Gulf War II. Did the US bow then to pressure from its peers, and they were… Read more »

Good ol' Rebel
Good ol' Rebel
Reply to  ProZNoV
1 year ago

Heh. I read that and my first thought was how many chores I could get caught up on if telecoms and the electric grid simultaneously went out.

Mr C
Mr C
Reply to  TBoone
1 year ago

My take on this is that Russia wasn’t trying to destroy these pieces of a society so that it would be a functioning part of the country again. Bombing them to the Stone Age would serve not purpose. Russia would be wise to show restrain. GH sees this as weakness and compares these efforts to the US taking over a desert for which it does not plan to add a star.

To me, this move makes it seem as if Russia is losing patience and may be ready to treat Ukraine like more of an enemy.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Mr C
1 year ago

That’s the tragedy of the situation. The real enemy is often not the people, but the elites running the country. The people have no power, but are often as not pawns of the elites in their country. The tragedy is you have to go through the people to reach the elites.

NoOneAtAll
NoOneAtAll
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Ukranians willingly lining up behind Zelensky are unfortunately enemies too. It would take thirty seconds of research to learn that he’s no Ukranian but rather a hostile, slav hating cousin of Soros, Blinken, and Nuland. They have already turned the Ukraine into a globalist brothel and want the boys castrated and buggered like they do to ours here. Before you set out to kill people for a living you should be willing to spend an hour or so in reflection about the righteousness of your cause or else youre a sociopathic trained monkey or a villian yourself. Conscripts are in… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Mr C
1 year ago

It’s a proxy war against the ZOG/NATO, and while this has been understood from the get go by the Russians, they have tried to sccomplush as much as they could through diplomacy. Even the fact that they elected to place the combat role largely upon the militias of the aggrieved Donetsk and Luhansk former oblasts of Ukraine, albeit with Russian artillery, air forces, and electronic warfare capabilities operating in tandem, they tried to keep this as a “police” action rather than employing the naked might of the Russian military. Well, no dice, they have apparently now concluded that they are… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
1 year ago

And into moderation we go…

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
1 year ago

Thanks, Z man, that thought had not occured to me, although it should have, as I regularly visit sites like The Saker, Andrei Martyanov’s blog, and Larry Johnson’s blog, and all of them report being sore beset by armies of trolls and bots.

Vince
Vince
1 year ago

“the long running war on manufacturing in the West is not about the practical issues related to making things. It is mostly about removing these things from the view of the managerial elite. Note that in the 20th century the corporate office moved from where actual work was done to a corporate campus. The manager did not want to hear, see and smell the work.” Imagine the horror on the faces of these effeminate managers when they pass a cattle feed lot off route 80 in Nebraska, something you can smell miles away that only gets stronger as you approach.… Read more »

PeriheliusLux
PeriheliusLux
Reply to  Vince
1 year ago

The same could be said of the interchange on California’s Highway 99 south of Silicon Valley. Of course that means that an effeminate manager is driving zhithem’s car to LA and may have to see that vast groves and fields of almonds, tomatoes, corn, wheat and dust waste space between Palo Alto and Malibu. However, they don’t do that drive – not even self driving. They fly their private jets. Meanwhile, the aspiring effeminate managers, do that drive, dreaming of the day they can use their avatars to avoid that god awful smell. Then they pray that they don’t forget… Read more »

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  Vince
1 year ago

Illinois is all-in on selling (TAXING) marijuana. The problem is, industrial pot production is almost as bad as industrial pig farming.

How do the urban hive dwellers get their organic, non-GMO mellow? The companies who run these ag/industrial sites are not dumb. They have HUGE operations way the hell beyond the edge of nowhere, far, far from the Eloie.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Mow Noname
1 year ago

I guess I’ve been proven wrong here, but ever since legalized and heavily taxed pot sales started, I predicted the taxes would wane and the legalized sales would languish, while usage would grow. This being due to illegal growth and sales. Pot now sells for more in the stores than the illegal stuff ever sold for. As one LEO stated to me, all we’ve done is change pot sales from a criminal offense into a tax avoidance offense. Here is my Hispanic city, it’s hard for me to image Jose and company cutting off their illegal suppliers to run down… Read more »

ChetRollins
ChetRollins
1 year ago

At a previous job, we had a few Six Sigma Black Belts tell the peasants in manufacturing process changes. The peasants, who never saw the guys in their lives, told them why this would not make a lick of difference. The Six Sigma guys just shrugged and implemented it anyways. As expected, it made no difference, but they fudged the spreadsheet enough to make it look like they accomplished something.

Unfortunately, it could be argued this is 30% of white collar jobs now, with another 20% which are actively detrimental.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  ChetRollins
1 year ago

We’ve talked about this before, remember the term that got legs years ago, bullshit jobs?
Bullshit Jobs: A Theory is a 2018 book by anthropologist David Graeber that postulates the existence of meaningless jobs and analyzes their societal harm.

He only went analytical where those of us on the ground knew this innately.

NailfileAlDunlop
NailfileAlDunlop
Reply to  David Wright
1 year ago

An interesting part of Graber’s argument was his distinction between BS jobs and plain S jobs (menial, dirty, but indisputably necessary). He was sort of veering into remote psychology with it but the book reproduced a few anonymous protests from holders of the former type of job, the BS workers themselves insisting on their awareness of the redundancy and/or meaninglessness of their occupations. I don’t think in the book he went quite to the nub of the volatile “mental health” WMD the administrative bureaucracy embodies. Tom Wolfe got there first anyway, for opening up the goldmine of superfluous customs and… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  NailfileAlDunlop
1 year ago

Upvoted. Also liked your posting handle. Guess I have dated myself, huh?

KGB
KGB
Reply to  ChetRollins
1 year ago

My factory is half a century old. When I started here 15 years ago, the production, planning, and engineering managers were all guys who’d worked their way up from the floor. They knew the jobs they were asking others to perform, and thus had the respect of the guys on the floor. Further, they were locally raised and had a stake in the community. They were bound to the workforce by ties of kith and kin. They all left a decade ago and in their stead is a regular rotation of professional managers, typically hired straight out of college and… Read more »

mmack
mmack
Reply to  KGB
1 year ago

“The guy who worked his way up from the bottom had been replaced by professional managers, trained at the best colleges and universities.” I think about the progression of credentialism in my family. My grandfather was a line manager (walked the production floor, knew his workers, managed his area of the plant) with only a high school diploma working for the manufacturing arm of a major telecommunications company. He came in and worked his way up. He got my father a job at the same company and plant. My father got a college degree going to night school which got… Read more »

mikey
mikey
Reply to  mmack
1 year ago

That’s the normal individual progress in a society where blue collar work is regarded with contempt. That’s why parents send their kids to college, they don’t want them to dishonor the family by becoming underpaid gandy dancers or truck drivers. There are some traditional roles that go through families, plumbers, well drillers and cops, etc. but no parent wants their kid to work in a packing house or car wash. Most jobs in the restaurant universe are regarded as temporary by both employers and employees.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  mmack
1 year ago

People would be shocked how browned up the MIC is becoming at the middle management/entry executive levels.

Real patriots, those.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  mmack
1 year ago

Mack. I suspect you are a product of the great opening up of Higher Ed opportunities after the war (WWII). Prior to that, Higher Ed was restricted to the upper classes. Lower, Blue collar status folk had little opportunity—even if their intellectual ability was superior. You term your family history as progression. And indeed it was, but I’d say you have a good basis in inheritance from your description, you just needed the opportunity that was normal for the upper class. I see the same within my extended family. Prior to the war, folks didn’t even start HS. After the… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  KGB
1 year ago

Even during my tenure as an IT grunt, I sometimes experienced same. This was at a federal contractor, a Beltway Bandit. On the one hand were the periodic fads of various types of training (mandatory) that were supposed to help the organization. And I’m talking about training other than the required “equal opportunity” bullshit. Occasionally they’d bring in what I’d call “efficiency experts” to survey our work processes in the theory that they might find ways to improve them. This last point alone requires comment. While I concede it’s theoretically possible, I submit that it’s vanishingly unlikely that some outsider… Read more »

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  KGB
1 year ago

Those guys with the MBAs they brought in with no practical experience of any kind, least of all with the work of their current employers? I think I would, rather, denominate them as professional manglers, as the end result of their employment would be the disarticulation of a formerly productive enterprise.

Iron Maiden
Iron Maiden
Reply to  ChetRollins
1 year ago

Work for the managerial elite is often not to a concrete endpoint, but to a graph, and in the end the line (Progress!) must always go up.

Member
1 year ago

“Not a single voice in the managerial elite calls for rebuilding cities by rebuilding their manufacturing base or even encouraging reshoring back to the cities. Instead, the reshoring is going on in exurban industrial parks hidden from the sight of the rulers. The plans for the city, real or imagined, do not include the laboring classes…” Well, in a city like Detroit or Chicago, there isn’t a laboring class anymore. There is a class of obsolete farm equipment no one has gotten any decent labor from since 1865 that subsists on the labor of others. The laboring class was forced… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Pickle Rick
1 year ago

Much of the “Great Reset” crowd has already given up on the consumerist model where Russia=gas and China=exported pollution.

The real “Great Reset” involves eating bugs and shrinking the general population enormously, leaving a few peasants around just in case.

Their “sustainability” model can’t possibly work for 7 billion people. They know it, and they’re quite open about it.

Don’t think China, India, or Russia are down with the new plan though.

imbroglio
imbroglio
1 year ago

You’re describing decadent aristocracy American-style. Historically, these classes don’t last long. One reason the late Queen is garnering such praise is that she seemed to have been raised with and exemplified solid, middle class values. And as the Western world transformed into a woman’s world following WW II, she had the good fortune of being a woman in a symbolic leadership position who hadn’t lost her feminine charm. Point is that the offshoring of the productive and well-grounded values you mention may be a relatively rapid and transitional phenom. Whatever the latter’s personal qualities may be, imagine the torch of… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  imbroglio
1 year ago

They praise the queen because for 70 years she did nothing to stop the destruction of Great Britain by the managerial class.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  imbroglio
1 year ago

There is no “torch” being handed down. Her husband has had (IIRC) his titles removed. Markle could simply not escape her race. She is Black and could not rise above that debility and adopt Royal (White) mannerisms. Even half White was not enough to ameliorate her inbred predilections. But of course, why is that surprising after having lived through Obama. 🙁

joeyjünger
joeyjünger
1 year ago

There are worse things than being invisible to the people who despise you, or think you so far beneath them that they can’t help but ignore you. I think of the old stories about slaves doing the “Yassah” smile to the master’s face and then grinding glass up into a fine powder and serving it with that night’s casserole. I suppose a class/race conscious kid forced into being a barista could think of some creative things to do with that NYT columnist’s latte when he comes in every morning to putter around on his laptop. The smarter elements (or at… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

joey: There probably won’t be too many clinging to their limos much longer. United plans to utilize electric helicopters to zip the Important People to the airport from their guarded enclaves. The new necessity of urban wealth will be a rooftop heliport.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/united-thinks-theres-a-future-in-electric-helicopters/ar-AA11ECfY

pixilated
pixilated
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

remember the ricin powder in the saccharine packets in Breaking Bad?

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  joeyjünger
1 year ago

In a similar vein, someone wryly (but correctly) observed that Wall Street is probably the only place in the world where clients ride in Rolls Royces to offices to receive financial advice from people who take the subway to work. Now, it’s likely that quip is from a better, safer era. But it still holds a few nuggets of wisdom. In the first place, the Clouds cannot be entirely divorced from the Dirts. At the very least, the computer and internet age notwithstanding, automation still hasn’t eliminated the need for a servitor class, and perhaps it never will. Many interactions… Read more »

p
p
1 year ago

Because real stuff is icky. Just wait til the first strategy consultant has to skin and gut a rabbit for his supper..